The Visions of Father Oliveira

[Bill Ryan]

This seems relevant to share: a short 3 minute video published 3 months ago, the transcript of which is below.

(Note: Pope Francis has NOT yet visited Moscow, but has said that he intends to. In this March 2023 article (https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-francis-visit-russia-both-neither/32313423.html), Pope Francis says he's willing to visit Ukraine and Russia, but 'both' or 'neither'.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUF4ouXtvV8
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Among the thousands of messages that Catholic visionaries receive from around the world, the prophecies of a Brazilian Priest living in Rio Grande Do Sul, Father Oliveira, are very substantial.

They are significant because they predicted the death of Benedict XVI would occur around Christmas (which it did), that a war would break out between Russia and Ukraine, and that Pope Francis would encounter great difficulty after traveling to Russia.

Father Oliveira has received mystical visions and prophetic revelations from God for many years. Here we share the story of Fr. Oliveira’s prophecies of the two Popes:

On February 11, 2020, Father Oliveira had a vision that he called “The Vision of the Popes”.



He said: “I saw Pope Francis get on a plane, greeting people and smiling. He was traveling to Russia and I saw the Pope in the Red Square in Moscow.

Pope Francis returns from Russia, and Fr. Oliveira sees Francis walking alone through the streets of Rome. The appearance of the street was like a post-war scene.

Pope Francis heads to St. Peter’s Square, but as he got closer, iron bars were raised in front of him. The bars were like those on old doors, and the iron gleamed. He tried to get closer to the Plaza, but couldn’t get through the bars.

The prophetic priest then says a war breaks out that would reach Rome and that Pope Francis would not be able to enter the Vatican.

Then on March 12, 2020, Father Oliveira had a vision of future years. This time, he woke up in the middle of the night, went to the chapel, and looked up from the altar. And there he had a vision of earth turning with the number of years passing.



He saw many priests and bishops taking off their priestly clothes, and at that moment he felt a great sadness. He interpreted this as a sign the Church would face a great apostasy or scandal, and that this tragedy would soon be revealed.

After this vision he saw people preparing for something terrible, and the people began stocking up on food.

In the vision he saw the future that would take place in the year 2022, and below the number he saw military personnel begin to assemble. The military officers acted as if they were hiding, in a secret meeting.

Then he saw a great fire at the top of the terrestrial globe. The priest believed this was a sign that there was a catastrophe in the northern hemisphere.

Then he saw the president of Russia pointing at the globe and laughing. And he interpreted that Russia will show malice towards the world. He saw the president of Russia pointing his finger, saying: “I told you. I warned you.”



Finally, he saw Pope Benedict XVI being prepared for burial in 2022, around the time of Christmas.

And now as the year 2023 begins, is it possible that with the death of Pope Benedict the world has entered a new time, a time that may soon be filled with great consequences for humanity? Watch for a surprise visit to Moscow by Pope Francis in 2023.

[Bill Ryan]

This is more precise, a direct translation of what Father Olivera wrote in Portuguese, published on 3 March 2023. It clarifies what he "saw" and what he interpreted, and also contains a lot more fine detail.


https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1954899/pampanga/opinion/cervantes-mystic-fr-oliveira-the-year-2029-appeared-as-the-end-or-closure-of-something

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There is a priest known only as Fr. Oliveira in Rio Grande do Sul in Southern Brazil. He is known to Catholic researchers as a mystic who has been receiving prophetic visions and messages pertaining to our times up to 2029.

Fr. Oliveira wrote all his mystic experiences in Portuguese and for the first time, his writings were translated into English by writer Carlos Caso-Rosendi.

I am sharing some of Fr. Oliveira’s visions (including his interpretations), as translated by Caso-Rosendi. Please pray first to the Holy Spirit for wisdom.

On March 12, 2020, he wrote:

On this occasion, I woke up in the middle of the night, and felt a strong desire to go to the chapel. I looked up from the altar and began to have a vision: the terrestrial globe rotating, with the number of years passing on it, and below I saw a series of images. I took out my spiritual journal and started trying to describe what I was visualizing.


When I transcribed the images, I described them as I thought their meaning was. Therefore, I will tell you, first, the images I saw and, later, what I felt they could mean.

I saw the number 2020. The first image was that of all the people in the world and everything else paralyzed.

I interpreted it like this: The year 2020 will be known as the year that has not passed. People will look at this year as a stagnant year.

Then I saw bishops closing the doors of churches and a disappointed crowd watching them from outside. In this crowd, many had a light above their heads and others pointed towards the church.

I interpreted: The cowardice of the pastors of the Church will not be forgotten. The lay faithful will receive many special graces that will awaken many consciences. Many lay people will make serious denunciations, because of the sins of the bishops.

I saw the Holy Father sitting at a table, with his hands on his head, in anguish and crying.

I interpreted: The Holy Father will suffer a lot. He’s already suffering. Your greatest suffering will be in your own conscience.

From that moment, the globe began to spin and the years passed, and many images of suffering followed. There were so many that I couldn’t write. One of them was that of poor people on the streets.

I interpreted: This year opens a period of probation. The next few years will be one of chaos and difficulties. The end of 2020 will be marked by a lot of economic hardship.

I saw the number 2021 and then the flags of China, the US, France and Germany being flung up, like by a football crowd.

I interpreted: There will be some tension on the world stage and it will involve China, the US, France and Germany.”

I saw the Pope looking at the Russian flag.

I interpreted: The Pope will approach Russia.

I don’t know if he will go to Russia, but he was looking at the Russian flag with some hope.

I saw the flag of China. She suddenly breaks apart and something like mud starts to come out of her.

I interpreted: Many hidden things will be revealed in China, or from China.

I saw the American flag being burned by a bunch of people dressed in black.

I interpreted: The US will be attacked and called the enemy of humanity. The expression ‘enemies of humanity’ came clearly to my mind at that time.

I saw many people with guns in their hands and then I saw a rush through the streets.

I interpreted: The arms industry will grow and the climate of war will be in full bloom.

Then I saw a priest with a red flag being thrown out of a church by lay people. The church was similar to one I know, just like the one in downtown in the city where I live. Because of the similarity, I think this part refers to Brazil.

I interpreted: In Brazil, in 2021, communism infiltrating in the Church will be exposed. I thought I would have no more doubts about it.

Then I saw many priests and bishops taking off their priestly clothes. At this moment I felt great sadness.

I interpreted, A great apostasy (or scandal, or heresy) will be seen or revealed.

Then I saw a window being opened and then there was a very big lull. During this lull, I saw people getting ready for something, stocking up on food.

I interpreted: A window (period) of peace will arrive between 2021 and 2022 [as the globe turned], but that peace will be like a false peace, for a short time. I think it’s a period of preparation.

I saw the numbers 2021 and 2022 and, just below, military personnel gathering. But they were as if they were in hiding, in a secret meeting.

I interpreted: In this period, I believe that the first conflicts will start, but the world will not know, it will not be public.

I don’t know why, but I have the feeling that this image is quite metaphorical. This is a conflict that will not be seen openly.

Then I saw a great fire in the upper part of the terrestrial globe. I asked myself: Will there be any catastrophe in the northern hemisphere?

Then I saw the president of Russia pointing at the globe and chuckling. I interpreted: Russia will show her malice. Something will happen that will confirm a position of the president of Russia. His expression was like the one when you say: I told you! I warned!

I saw Pope Benedict XVI being prepared for burial. I asked myself: will the Pope Emeritus go to the Father’s house in 2022?

Then I saw Pope Francis very hesitant to sign any document. He looked at the map, on which only the West appeared (Europe, America, Africa), and hesitated to sign the document.

I interpreted: The Holy Father will have to make some very important decision that could change the course of the West.

Then I saw the Brazilian flag smeared with blood or red paint. The Virgin Mary appeared, took the flag and shook it, brushing the dirt off the flag.

I interpreted: In Brazil, there will be a violent period, or a great onslaught of Communism, but the Virgin will come to the country’s rescue.

The globe continued to spin and I saw the numbers 2022 and 2023. Then I saw huge battalions marching, but the strange thing was that there was a very big silence. As in the image of the military meeting, I again felt that feeling that something was not quite as I saw it.

I asked myself: Will there be the beginning of a war? Will she be silent? It was again the sense of a conflict that will not be felt or seen or heard. Here it was very difficult to understand.

Then I saw the Pope hurrying to a plane. He was accompanied by security and was almost running. I didn’t see the Pope’s face.

I felt, The Pope will need to leave Rome for some urgent reason.

At that moment, the globe spun and I saw the numbers 2023 and 2024. Then I saw only war. I saw people watching war scenes on television.

I asked myself, Will the world see the horrors of war in 2024? Will this appear on televisions? Or will it be a conflict that we will only watch, not being exactly physical?

The certainty of a conflict seemed clear to me, but the nature of it was not.

Then there was a chronological jump. On the globe, I saw the numbers from 2024 to 2029 flash by, and a great light appeared in the sky.

I interpreted: There will be conflicts or problems until 2029. In that year, there will be some sign in the sky.

Then I saw the Japanese flag being raised and people were applauding it. I interpreted: Japan will do something that will not be forgotten. The country will do something that will be applauded.

Then the globe stopped in 2029 and I saw many people looking at the sky. I interpreted: In 2029, the world will look to the sky and the conflicts and wars on Earth will have to stop.

After that, I didn’t see anything else. It calls my attention that, again, the year 2029 appeared as the end or closure of something.

[Bill Ryan]

This is the website of the translator of Father Olivera's writing, Carlos Caso-Rosendi.


https://casorosendi.com/2023/02/24/new-revelations-from-fr-oliveira

New revelations from Fr. Oliveira

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Please forgive this hastily translated post presented here for your discernment. I received the content about an hour or two ago. Any necessary corrections of grammar and style will be completed tomorrow with fresh eyes. This is a private revelation and it is not ecclesiastically approved, the sources are honest and reliable as far as I can verify. I would like to hear your comments. The usual naysayers can read the previous post about Fr. Oliveira which contains several prophecies that were fulfilled recently before our very eyes. Those who want to reproduce the contents of this post please give credit to the source, do not remove the credit lines. Thank you!

February 24, 2023~~~

The Giant Wave

On the 6th of February [2023], Fr. Oliveira was on the beach during a moment of rest. He was fishing, busy throwing a net into the sea while waves came and went.

At one point, he found himself looking at the water and, inexplicably, felt the intuition to run inland. He likes to fish and is familiar with the sea, so he found that bad feeling strange.

He stood still, with the net in his hand, trying to understand what was happening. The situation was similar to a panic attack, a feeling of terror without a cause.

Then he had a vision: A huge wave was coming towards him. The priest turned his back on it and hurried towards the chair where his belongings were. When he looked down to the ground, he saw reflected in the water the image of the flag of the United States, which appeared to be submerged. Everything happened in a few seconds.

Then the phenomenon ended. There was no wave approaching, no flag on the ground. The priest sat in his chair and asked God: “Lord, why do you always show me things like this? I can’t understand what you want to tell me.” And he stayed there still. The bad feeling passed and the priest went back to fishing. He spent days discerning the event.

Whether the meaning of the revelation is literal or symbolic, if it is for the near or distant future, conditional or inevitable, none of that is clear, God did not want to reveal it. The divine language is broader than our imagination, so be patient because everything will become clearer only at the time He finds appropriate.

Revelations like this are given to us so that we are prepared for the time when a bad event confirms the prophecy. Even if such a situation frightens us in the future, we will remember that God is always in control and will always be with his children.

Let us pray for the United States and for Divine Mercy.

[Szymon]

Thanks Bill, I look forward to reading/watching this. Cheers, Szymon

[Szymon]

This seems relevant to share: a short 3 minute video published 3 months ago, the transcript of which is below.

(Note: Pope Francis has NOT yet visited Moscow, but has said that he intends to. In this March 2023 article (https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-francis-visit-russia-both-neither/32313423.html), Pope Francis says he's willing to visit Ukraine and Russia, but 'both' or 'neither'.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUF4ouXtvV8
~~~

Among the thousands of messages that Catholic visionaries receive from around the world, the prophecies of a Brazilian Priest living in Rio Grande Do Sul, Father Oliveira, are very substantial.

They are significant because they predicted the death of Benedict XVI would occur around Christmas (which it did), that a war would break out between Russia and Ukraine, and that Pope Francis would encounter great difficulty after traveling to Russia.

Father Oliveira has received mystical visions and prophetic revelations from God for many years. Here we share the story of Fr. Oliveira’s prophecies of the two Popes:

On February 11, 2020, Father Oliveira had a vision that he called “The Vision of the Popes”.



He said: “I saw Pope Francis get on a plane, greeting people and smiling. He was traveling to Russia and I saw the Pope in the Red Square in Moscow.

Pope Francis returns from Russia, and Fr. Oliveira sees Francis walking alone through the streets of Rome. The appearance of the street was like a post-war scene.

Pope Francis heads to St. Peter’s Square, but as he got closer, iron bars were raised in front of him. The bars were like those on old doors, and the iron gleamed. He tried to get closer to the Plaza, but couldn’t get through the bars.

The prophetic priest then says a war breaks out that would reach Rome and that Pope Francis would not be able to enter the Vatican.

Then on March 12, 2020, Father Oliveira had a vision of future years. This time, he woke up in the middle of the night, went to the chapel, and looked up from the altar. And there he had a vision of earth turning with the number of years passing.



He saw many priests and bishops taking off their priestly clothes, and at that moment he felt a great sadness. He interpreted this as a sign the Church would face a great apostasy or scandal, and that this tragedy would soon be revealed.

After this vision he saw people preparing for something terrible, and the people began stocking up on food.

In the vision he saw the future that would take place in the year 2022, and below the number he saw military personnel begin to assemble. The military officers acted as if they were hiding, in a secret meeting.

Then he saw a great fire at the top of the terrestrial globe. The priest believed this was a sign that there was a catastrophe in the northern hemisphere.

Then he saw the president of Russia pointing at the globe and laughing. And he interpreted that Russia will show malice towards the world. He saw the president of Russia pointing his finger, saying: “I told you. I warned you.”



Finally, he saw Pope Benedict XVI being prepared for burial in 2022, around the time of Christmas.

And now as the year 2023 begins, is it possible that with the death of Pope Benedict the world has entered a new time, a time that may soon be filled with great consequences for humanity? Watch for a surprise visit to Moscow by Pope Francis in 2023.

Very interesting post.

This reminds me of the Billy Meier - Henoch Prophecies.

The following page was posted on February 11, 2013 - first published in 1987.

https://theyflyblog.com/2013/02/the-pope-and-the-henoch-prophecies/


“After the turn of the millennium, the papacy will exist only a short period. Pope John Paul II is the third from last in this position. After him, only one additional pontificate will follow. Then a Pontifex Maximus follows who will be known as Petrus Romanus. Under his religious rule, the end of the Catholic Church will come, a total collapse becoming inevitable. That will be the beginning of the worst catastrophe that will ever have befallen the human beings and the Earth. Many Catholic clerics, priests, bishops, cardinals and many others will be killed and their blood will flow in streams. But also the reformed version of Christianity will become just as infinitely small, as does Catholicism.”

Szymon

[Eagle Eye]

There has been many false prediction about the End of Times, but no one can know it or see it except God. Even if it is said that we can't really know it, there will be signs to make us understand that it has approached and those signs are getting more clear than ever.

Humanity has been gifted with this planet and no one (aliens, AI, robots etc...) will overcome humans in here. We will be in charge until the Day of Judgement.

[Hamish]

Hello,

The translation says: I saw the number 2020. The first image was that of all the people in the world and everything else paralyzed.

Well that certainly could be Covid lockdown accross the world.

The translation says: I saw the flag of China. She suddenly breaks apart and something like mud starts to come out of her.
Just watching the China Videos on this site which gets posted in the China Turmoil, it would seem China is on a edge, social, ecominic wise and if tipped could collapse internally and or go to War with say taiwan and or other nations, in an effort to try and maintain some form of order / distraction.

The translation says: From that moment, the globe began to spin and the years passed, and many images of suffering followed. There were so many that I couldn’t write. One of them was that of poor people on the streets.

Well that could be everything we currently see, more homeless, more people striking, more people protesting etc.

The translation says: I saw the Pope looking at the Russian flag.

Most people seem to have the view that Russia is the agressor, perhaps the Pope thinks Russia will come to her senses, in that she will submit/agree to Western terms / regime change. Time will tell but doubt Russia will.

The Translation: I saw the American flag being burned by a bunch of people dressed in black.

Well that would be a interesting episode of who did it as the list of enemies USA has at home and abroad is too many to count.

Edit to add this with I think is interesting:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1649150178442506243

The translation says: I saw the numbers 2021 and 2022 and, just below, military personnel gathering. But they were as if they were in hiding, in a secret meeting.
and, This is a conflict that will not be seen openly.

Could be the Ukraine/Russia war. Even now we are finding out that there is western soldiers in Ukraine. We are not being told the truth, it's not an open war that we have insight of, we have western/NATO soliders in Ukraine.

Everything in the translation to me seems like a oOOooOo hitting some of the things i think I am seeing now.

[bobme]

I am still not sold on religion, nor which is most right, be it catholic, jehovah witness, or what ever.

But most here know that about me anyways.

But one thing That I do question is, Why must you have a religion, in order to see things that are going to happen, when there are many who are not religious, already see. And always have seen the crap coming?

What, if any, religion is that called?:heart:

[Bill Ryan]

Why must you have a religion, in order to see things that are going to happen?You don't. One just has to have a certain sensitivity and openness. None of this is about 'religion'. :)

[Szymon]

Regarding this quote here.


I saw the flag of China. She suddenly breaks apart and something like mud starts to come out of her.

A Psychic/Medium from Israel mentioned that somewhere in the future China will sink and will be covered with water. China won't exist.

https://www.gali4u.com/predictions

You will need to watch her videos. The other stuff she talks about is a bit out there. It's got that white and dark hat flavor.

Recently, she stopped English content everything now is in Hebrew. Probably got a visit from that agency in Israel. There are only a few English interviews floating around the net. I can see most of them as links on her website under the predictions heading.


Cheers,
Szymon

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1652820917074944001

1652820917074944001

[RatRodRob...RRR]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/154732620562251?fs=e&s=m

Remember those weird sounds yrs ago from all over the world, some sounded screechy, and some like trumpets sounding the pending end of the world.

seven trumpets are sounded, one at a time, to cue apocalyptic events seen by John of Patmos (Revelation 1:9) in his vision (Revelation 1:1).

The vid up above is from Australia, about 190 kms from me, i wish i was there to wittiness these creepy sounds that seem to come from the heavens.

The peeps present in this vid are in bewilderment, so are these sounds a warning forecasting something biblical.......?

I remember bout 10 or more yrs ago these weird sounds were being posted quite abit, was this a sign of coming turmoil, weve had covid and now the war with Russia and Ukraine. (which is BS)

Im not religious but rather agnostic, so im not sure if these sounds are a warning from god or not ( 7 angels) but these damn eerie noises are unexplained and freaky.

RRR

First vid ^^^ wouldnt play so i found it on YT
Mbr-0-wtK5A

[Ewan]

Why must you have a religion, in order to see things that are going to happen?You don't. One just has to have a certain sensitivity and openness. None of this is about 'religion'. :)

And if I may add, your own belief systems can bleed into what you are experiencing. So, if you are a deeply religious person you might interpret a messenger as Christ/Mary/God etc., or assume it comes from a spiritual source. As a non-religious example technophiles could figure it is aliens sharing a message.

[Hamish]

Hello,

That tweet (https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1652820917074944001) and the Visions.
https://media.giphy.com/media/7chPbJDS5CgUjz0Pka/giphy.gif

[Pam]

Hello,

The translation says: I saw the number 2020. The first image was that of all the people in the world and everything else paralyzed.

Well that certainly could be Covid lockdown accross the world.

The translation says: I saw the flag of China. She suddenly breaks apart and something like mud starts to come out of her.
Just watching the China Videos on this site which gets posted in the China Turmoil, it would seem China is on a edge, social, ecominic wise and if tipped could collapse internally and or go to War with say taiwan and or other nations, in an effort to try and maintain some form of order / distraction.

The translation says: From that moment, the globe began to spin and the years passed, and many images of suffering followed. There were so many that I couldn’t write. One of them was that of poor people on the streets.

Well that could be everything we currently see, more homeless, more people striking, more people protesting etc.

The translation says: I saw the Pope looking at the Russian flag.

Most people seem to have the view that Russia is the agressor, perhaps the Pope thinks Russia will come to her senses, in that she will submit/agree to Western terms / regime change. Time will tell but doubt Russia will.

The Translation: I saw the American flag being burned by a bunch of people dressed in black.

Well that would be a interesting episode of who did it as the list of enemies USA has at home and abroad is too many to count.

Edit to add this with I think is interesting:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1649150178442506243

The translation says: I saw the numbers 2021 and 2022 and, just below, military personnel gathering. But they were as if they were in hiding, in a secret meeting.
and, This is a conflict that will not be seen openly.

Could be the Ukraine/Russia war. Even now we are finding out that there is western soldiers in Ukraine. We are not being told the truth, it's not an open war that we have insight of, we have western/NATO soliders in Ukraine.

Everything in the translation to me seems like a oOOooOo hitting some of the things i think I am seeing now.

Your translation and thoughtful comments are very much appreciated.

[Hamish]

Hello,

Thank you Pam :thumbsup:

Would like to read everyone views.

[Bill Ryan]

Why must you have a religion, in order to see things that are going to happen?You don't. One just has to have a certain sensitivity and openness. None of this is about 'religion'. :)

And if I may add, your own belief systems can bleed into what you are experiencing. So, if you are a deeply religious person you might interpret a messenger as Christ/Mary/God etc., or assume it comes from a spiritual source. As a non-religious example technophiles could figure it is aliens sharing a message.Exactly. I'm as sure as I can be that this is how it works.

A very close analogy would be the scene towards the end of the wonderful 1997 movie Contact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(1997_American_film)), where astrophysicist Ellie (played by Jodie Foster) meets a highly advanced ET being who appears to her in the form of her father because that would be most acceptable and reassuring to her.

So Catholics may see the Virgin Mary or Mother Mary, others may see Angels (or maybe ETs), and some may even see wise Native Elders or other messengers that manifest in whatever way is easiest to accept, also communicating in ways that reflect their own Earthly belief systems.

[Hamish]

Hello,

The source of information would likely look at who the information is being given to.

If you connecting with a religion human, the source would likely connect with them as a such as Jesus/Mother Virgin etc.

When it was indians it was spritual animals etc.

The belief of the person is also necessary, if giving to me, I simply wouldnt know what do to with it and having a fight with myself, why would I want to give such information out? I am not a gate-keeper, but wouldn't want to tell everyone people, that I had visions and think on x date/year and x negative event happened.

Also, the intended audience the source wants such information to be shared with, would look at who the human is for effect. If i give this to Hamish would the source get the effect it wants and or would it be better with Father Oliveira. I would say Father Oliveira.

[Szymon]

Why must you have a religion, in order to see things that are going to happen?You don't. One just has to have a certain sensitivity and openness. None of this is about 'religion'. :)

And if I may add, your own belief systems can bleed into what you are experiencing. So, if you are a deeply religious person you might interpret a messenger as Christ/Mary/God etc., or assume it comes from a spiritual source. As a non-religious example technophiles could figure it is aliens sharing a message.Exactly. I'm as sure as I can be that this is how it works.

A very close analogy would be the scene towards the end of the wonderful 1997 movie Contact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(1997_American_film)), where astrophysicist Ellie (played by Jodie Foster) meets a highly advanced ET being who appears to her in the form of her father because that would be most acceptable and reassuring to her.

So Catholics may see the Virgin Mary or Mother Mary, others may see Angels (or maybe ETs), and some may even see wise Native Elders or other messengers that manifest in whatever way is easiest to accept, also communicating in ways that reflect their own Earthly belief systems.

I concur with the above. I would also like to add that researchers of NDEs (Near Death Experiencers) say that the final death experience is based on your belief structure. This is done to make your final life transition a lot easier.

Cheers,
Szymon

[Did You See Them]

SKY News

"Ukraine says it has no knowledge of Vatican 'peace mission'

A Ukrainian official has rebuffed claims from the Pope that the Vatican is taking part in a "peace mission" aimed at ending the war.
The anonymous official, who is close to the presidential office, told CNN: "President Zelenskyy has not consented to any such discussions on Ukraine's behalf.
"If talks are happening, they are happening without our knowledge or our blessing."
The Pope earlier told journalists that the mission was "in the course now" but has not yet been made public.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-latest-kremlin-avoiding-overly-repressive-measures-out-of-fear-for-putins-future-12541713

[Hamish]

Hello,

Credit to Ravenlocke for posting this in the WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia thread.

https://twitter.com/onlydjole/status/1655964773165481985

I can't help but think of the following in the translation:

Then I saw Pope Francis very hesitant to sign any document. He looked at the map, on which only the West appeared (Europe, America, Africa), and hesitated to sign the document.

I interpreted: The Holy Father will have to make some very important decision that could change the course of the West.

Then I saw the Brazilian flag smeared with blood or red paint. The Virgin Mary appeared, took the flag and shook it, brushing the dirt off the flag.

Look like the Pope is in a conflicted stance, obviously wanting to condem the War but also not supporting the West in funding the War. We know from what happening in Sudan, Libya, Iraq, Ukraine and likley now pakistan, that if your not reading from the script you will be disposed of. Pope next on the list?

Then there is this from the transation:

Pope Francis returns from Russia, and Fr. Oliveira sees Francis walking alone through the streets of Rome. The appearance of the street was like a post-war scene.

Pope Francis heads to St. Peter’s Square, but as he got closer, iron bars were raised in front of him. The bars were like those on old doors, and the iron gleamed. He tried to get closer to the Plaza, but couldn’t get through the bars.


If the Pope has plans for visting Russia and or does, we do tend to see, when your away from home, sudden chaos comes about. Will there be a sudden expose of the church which will see riots and police / vatican closing down and blocking access to the city.

Hmm....

Then this from:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/ukraine-war-pope-francis-position-vatican-geopolitics/673955/

Of note from the article:


Pope Francis has staked a position on the war in Ukraine that puts him more in line with Beijing, New Delhi, and Brasília than Washington, London, or Brussels: He wants to end Ukraine’s armament by the West and negotiate an immediate cease-fire. Earlier this week, Francis vaguely alluded to a mission he was working on to end the conflict. Yet he seems to have alienated many of the actors whose support he would need to do so.

Western leaders have any number of reasons to be upset with Francis’s response to the war. In addition to criticizing the West’s efforts to arm Ukraine, he has implied that NATO deserves blame for the invasion, often quoting an unnamed diplomat who accused NATO of “barking at Russia’s door.” Though Francis has condemned Russian war crimes and sympathized with Ukrainians’ suffering, he hasn’t condemned Vladimir Putin. Rather, Francis has praised him as a man of culture and even suggested that the Russian president has been acting on legitimate security concerns.

As Francis completed his tenth year as pope in March, a contest between Russia and the West was once again being waged on a proxy site in Eastern Europe. Now, however, the pope is at odds with Western powers, instead of operating in concert with them.

The best way to make sense of Francis, then, isn’t in terms of left versus right, or even East versus West, but North versus South. Across the global South, the conflict in Ukraine is seen largely as a European affair, one without an obvious hero or villain. The pope’s call for a halt to arms transfers, an end to the fighting, and negotiations that all sides could support coincides with the majority sentiment among Catholics who don’t live in NATO member states.

The Catholic Church is not a democracy. But Western critics have for centuries demanded that it become more responsive to the will of the people over whose souls it claims jurisdiction. Perhaps, therefore, observers jarred by Pope Francis’s position on Ukraine might pause for a moment to consider whether Francis is simply reflecting the instincts and desires of his base, to use the political jargon.

[Szymon]

Hello,

Credit to Ravenlocke for posting this in the WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia thread.

https://twitter.com/onlydjole/status/1655964773165481985

I can't help but think of the following in the translation:

Then I saw Pope Francis very hesitant to sign any document. He looked at the map, on which only the West appeared (Europe, America, Africa), and hesitated to sign the document.

I interpreted: The Holy Father will have to make some very important decision that could change the course of the West.

Then I saw the Brazilian flag smeared with blood or red paint. The Virgin Mary appeared, took the flag and shook it, brushing the dirt off the flag.

Look like the Pope is in a conflicted stance, obviously wanting to condem the War but also not supporting the West in funding the War. We know from what happening in Sudan, Libya, Iraq, Ukraine and likley now pakistan, that if your not reading from the script you will be disposed of. Pope next on the list?

Then there is this from the transation:

Pope Francis returns from Russia, and Fr. Oliveira sees Francis walking alone through the streets of Rome. The appearance of the street was like a post-war scene.

Pope Francis heads to St. Peter’s Square, but as he got closer, iron bars were raised in front of him. The bars were like those on old doors, and the iron gleamed. He tried to get closer to the Plaza, but couldn’t get through the bars.


If the Pope has plans for visting Russia and or does, we do tend to see, when your away from home, sudden chaos comes about. Will there be a sudden expose of the church which will see riots and police / vatican closing down and blocking access to the city.

Hmm....

Then this from:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/ukraine-war-pope-francis-position-vatican-geopolitics/673955/

Of note from the article:


Pope Francis has staked a position on the war in Ukraine that puts him more in line with Beijing, New Delhi, and Brasília than Washington, London, or Brussels: He wants to end Ukraine’s armament by the West and negotiate an immediate cease-fire. Earlier this week, Francis vaguely alluded to a mission he was working on to end the conflict. Yet he seems to have alienated many of the actors whose support he would need to do so.

Western leaders have any number of reasons to be upset with Francis’s response to the war. In addition to criticizing the West’s efforts to arm Ukraine, he has implied that NATO deserves blame for the invasion, often quoting an unnamed diplomat who accused NATO of “barking at Russia’s door.” Though Francis has condemned Russian war crimes and sympathized with Ukrainians’ suffering, he hasn’t condemned Vladimir Putin. Rather, Francis has praised him as a man of culture and even suggested that the Russian president has been acting on legitimate security concerns.

As Francis completed his tenth year as pope in March, a contest between Russia and the West was once again being waged on a proxy site in Eastern Europe. Now, however, the pope is at odds with Western powers, instead of operating in concert with them.

The best way to make sense of Francis, then, isn’t in terms of left versus right, or even East versus West, but North versus South. Across the global South, the conflict in Ukraine is seen largely as a European affair, one without an obvious hero or villain. The pope’s call for a halt to arms transfers, an end to the fighting, and negotiations that all sides could support coincides with the majority sentiment among Catholics who don’t live in NATO member states.

The Catholic Church is not a democracy. But Western critics have for centuries demanded that it become more responsive to the will of the people over whose souls it claims jurisdiction. Perhaps, therefore, observers jarred by Pope Francis’s position on Ukraine might pause for a moment to consider whether Francis is simply reflecting the instincts and desires of his base, to use the political jargon.


Here is what the Henoch Prophecies say about the pope.


“After the turn of the millennium, the papacy will exist only a short period. Pope John Paul II is the third from last in this position. After him, only one additional pontificate will follow. Then a Pontifex Maximus follows who will be known as Petrus Romanus. Under his religious rule, the end of the Catholic Church will come, a total collapse becoming inevitable. That will be the beginning of the worst catastrophe that will ever have befallen the human beings and the Earth. Many Catholic clerics, priests, bishops, cardinals and many others will be killed and their blood will flow in streams. But also the reformed version of Christianity will become just as infinitely small, as does Catholicism.”

This information was published in 1987 by Billy Meier (and has been online since at least 2006)

[Bill Ryan]

Here is what the Henoch Prophecies say about the pope.


“After the turn of the millennium, the papacy will exist only a short period. Pope John Paul II is the third from last in this position. After him, only one additional pontificate will follow. Then a Pontifex Maximus follows who will be known as Petrus Romanus. Under his religious rule, the end of the Catholic Church will come, a total collapse becoming inevitable. That will be the beginning of the worst catastrophe that will ever have befallen the human beings and the Earth. Many Catholic clerics, priests, bishops, cardinals and many others will be killed and their blood will flow in streams. But also the reformed version of Christianity will become just as infinitely small, as does Catholicism.”

This information was published in 1987 by Billy Meier (and has been online since at least 2006)In rather grim black and white:

If this is accurate, that means that the current Pope Francis would be the last pope. He's currently 86 years old, and he'll be 87 in December. So this would imply that whatever war and/or catastrophe is foretold here, the timing would certainly be within the next 6 or 7 years — and probably within the next 3 or 4.

[Bill Ryan]

If this is accurate, that means that the current Pope Francis would be the last pope. He's currently 86 years old, and he'll be 87 in December. So this would imply that whatever war and/or catastrophe is foretold here, the timing would certainly be within the next 6 or 7 years — and probably within the next 3 or 4.That also corresponds with the list of future popes (112 of them!) stated by the 12th century prophet Saint Malachy.

The list, which was discovered in 1590, has been the subject of much controversy and disagreement. It's all here in full (https://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Beasts/St.Malachy%27s.prophecy.112.final.popes.html), with added detailed commentary which makes the long page a fascinating read. If the list is authentic and correct, this means that Malachy also foresaw that Francis would be the last pope.

[Hamish]

Hello,

Might be of some interest given our comments.

IntelRepublic/19963

and

Slavyangrad/45634

[Kryztian]

IntelRepublic/19963


The significance of May 13th: May 13th, 1917 was the beginning of the Fatima apparitions, which led to the prophecies that Russia (and perhaps her sister Ukraine) need to have a special blessing (consecration ceremony from the Vatician) in order to usher in some world events.

Interesting! :popcorn:

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/ReadovkaWorld/status/1657371615594971136

1657371615594971136

[Bill Ryan]

A new video, published just a couple weeks ago. It appears that Father Oliveira (which apparently is not his real name) is slowly starting to attract some attention.

The video image is a little dramatic, but the narration is very well done (though auto-generated and with one or two tiny mistakes). It's a very effective 10-minute audio presentation of the detailed and potentially important vision Father Oliveria had in March 2020.

By the way, I suspect his interpretation is incorrect of the "great light appearing in the sky" in 2029, followed by an image of the Japanese flag. The Japanese flag simply shows the sun — and that's what the issue may be then.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yQdU323dyI

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Ukr sources report that Zelensky’s negotiations with the Pope ended in vain, the format of negotiations was imposed on Ukraine, and Zelensky outlined a unified position - only the Ukrainian formula for peace. Kiev understands that any alternative format other than the Ukrainian formula will mean the defeat of Ukraine, which is why the Chinese peace plan will never be implemented.

https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1657451315281182720

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[Bill Ryan]

Re "Pope Francis visiting Moscow", this may (or may not!) be a related development:

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/63749

DDGeopolitics/63749

[Lunesoleil]

A new video, published just a couple weeks ago. It appears that Father Oliveira (which apparently is not his real name) is slowly starting to attract some attention.
I looked for Bill, and I found nothing in French, not even a date of birth

Visions And Prophecies of Fr. Oliveira (https://motheofgod.com/threads/visions-and-prophecies-of-fr-oliveira.19019/)

[onawah]

The breaking apart of and mud coming out of China could well have something to do with the ongoing and persistent failure of the thousands of dams constructed in China, resulting in floods of mud.
(skip to 5:16 minutes into the first video)
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And if the 3 Gorges Dam fails (which was faultily constructed, and on a faultline as well, so it is a very real possibility), a very great portion of China would be flooded.L2DHV0AKgyU


This is more precise, a direct translation of what Father Olivera wrote in Portuguese, published on 3 March 2023. It clarifies what he "saw" and what he interpreted, and also contains a lot more fine detail.

I saw the flag of China. She suddenly breaks apart and something like mud starts to come out of her.

I interpreted: Many hidden things will be revealed in China, or from China.

[Bill Ryan]

Father Oliveria has had a new vision. I'm copying the whole report here. It's a message about many serious problems and issues starting in October this year (2023). The Third Secret of Fatima is referenced. Russia is involved. Do read the whole thing.


https://casorosendi.com/2023/06/29/revelation-to-fr-oliveira

:flower:

~~~

English translation of a report by Lucas Gelasio from Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil

Over the course of a few weeks, Father Oliveira felt the presence of the Virgin Mary in the Masses he celebrated. He also had several mystical insights during this period as he felt that he was about to receive a new revelation. On the 17th of June, around 3:10 am, the priest felt that he should go to the chapel. He sat down in front of the image of Our Lady of Fatima, began to receive an inner locution and wrote it down. The [newly] received message organized and complemented those intuitions that were gradually coming to his heart.

Our Lady prophesied that, in October, the period of great tribulation announced in her apparitions would begin, linking it to the Third Secret of Fatima. She announced the advance of [military conflicts], new natural catastrophes, physical ailments and spiritual evils. He also told him there is help in tribulation: the use of sacramentals, Eucharistic Adoration and praying the Holy Rosary. He asked for prayers for priests, bishops and the Roman Pontiff. He exhorted us all to [have] courage and promised her protection.

She also revealed other very important facts, but asked that this part of the message be shown only to three witnesses. He didn’t explain the reason, but hinted that this will be part of a mission in the future.

Finally, he gave us (Sirach) Ecclesiasticus 18:7-14 (https://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?q=Ecclesiasticus+18%3A7-14&x=17&y=26&b=drb) to meditate on. The passage speaks of God’s Mercy, which is perfectly present even in the moment of His rebuke. Confident and grateful to the Holy Mother, who, just as she was with her Son during the Passion of the Cross, will be with us during the great tribulation, we can face this period the right way, with love and courage. The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart is near.
Lucas Gelasio (Brazil)
The locution Fr. Oliveira received from Our Lady of Fatima
Dear son, listen carefully: October this year will begin a period of great tribulation, foreseen by me when I was in France, in Portugal and in Spain. On those three occasions, I spoke about the cause for these [coming] tribulations. Be prepared, above all spiritually, for this period will not start with thunder, but will be gradual and will spread slowly throughout the world.

The war [already] started will increase, as you saw above. There will be droughts, great storms and earthquakes in various places in the world. But as My Divine Son says: when you hear rumors, don’t be afraid!

Use the Miraculous Medal always, starting today, and also distribute it to your flock. Illness will not be the only evil that will spread; spiritual evil will be worse. Illness, however, will be a great scourge. Place the Medal of St. Benedict on the door and do not fail to wear the Scapular. Have blessed candles, blessed oil and holy water. Have no more doubts about the Good Samaritan Oil, bless it and use it. Try to maintain the state of grace, because the demons will attack humanity with very strong temptations, above all against the priests.

Pray for them and pray for you too, who are also a priest. Always remember who you are! Pray also for your Bishop and for all bishops. Pray a lot for the Holy Father, fasting and making sacrifices for him. I, your Mother and Queen, will be with all those who have entrusted themselves to my care and will not leave any of my children destitute, as I promised many times.

I must alert you: these times are part of what I said in my Third Secret, in Portugal. On October 13th, I will give you a sign, as you asked me; that’s why I showed you that date. I received from God the mission to guard, with the holy angels that the Lord placed at my service, all those who gave their lives to me. There will be great devastation from Russia, instigated by the Dragon from Hell. This will cause damage to the all the world.

But you however, fear not! This is the opportune time for holiness. Remember that the great saints appeared in moments of great darkness. Times of tribulation, especially this one, must not be faced with fear and cowardice, but with love and courage. See, son, that is why I have called you in this hour, so that you may remember and announce that the opportune time for holiness is now, today — not tomorrow.

Eucharistic Adoration must be your anchor, and the chain of that anchor, the Holy Rosary. Eucharistic Adoration, acts of reparation and sacrifices, united with the Holy Rosary, can change all the prophecies! Don’t forget this: Adoration and Holy Rosary. Do penance, offer sacrifices for the salvation of souls, for the conversion of sinners and the sanctification of the Clergy.

Remember that the Lord knows everything and commands everything. Soon, the triumph of My Immaculate Heart will arrive! Remain faithful in this time of purification, trust in the help of your Guardian Angel. The time for saints is now. Pray, dear son, pray and watch, as I called you today. Pray and watch. (Ecclesiasticus 18:7-14 (https://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?q=Ecclesiasticus+18%3A7-14&x=17&y=26&b=drb))

[pabranno]

I resonate with this reading, from the base level of common sense to the spiritual level of my faith and hope. However, I do not understand the insistence on specific external rituals to receive protection and mercy, as this requirement seems to exclude all those who have a different experience/expression of quite possibly the same spiritual foundation, in essence.
To me this exclusivity is unsettling, although the core of the prophecy rings truth.

Pamela

[Bill Ryan]

This was posted yesterday by Carlos Caso-Rosendi, who has been faithfully reporting Father Oliveira's visions. The red banner alert image, which is very untypical of him, was posted by him in the article just as seen.

https://casorosendi.com/2023/07/24/francis-to-meet-kirill-in-moscow-soon
(https://casorosendi.com/2023/07/24/francis-to-meet-kirill-in-moscow-soon)
Pope Francis to meet Russia's Patriarch Kirill in Moscow soon

https://projectavalon.net/Francis_to_meet_Kitrill.jpg

This may turn out to be a very important event. TASS, the Russian News Agency, announced earlier today (July 24, 2023) that Francis has proposed to Patriarch Kirill to meet at a Moscow Airport either on his way to Mongolia in August 31 or when returning back on September 4. The Papal airplane must stop at Moscow for refueling. The city of Moscow has two airports suitable for the airplane to land.

This was predicted both in Garabandal and in the prophecies of Fr. Oliveira.

This is one of the elements of a triad of events that mark the beginning of the tail end of the End Times. Some have announced that they will occur within a very short time.


Pope visits Moscow.
Two “stars” collide.
War breaks in Europe, Rome is destroyed and the Pope can’t get to the Vatican. (Due to occupation?)

This only announces the intention of the leader of the Roman Catholic Church but the meeting with Kirill is not the point but the visit to Moscow. God willing and all things being as proposed, Francis must land in Moscow on his way to Mongolia if only to refuel the plane.

If it is August 31, that’s the day of St Raymond Nonatus. His nickname Nonatus could refer to the fact that his mother died during childbirth, without being able to see the child. I may be reading too much in this but it may point at the coming persecution when many in the Church will perish before seeing the changes that God is effecting upon the world. Combined with the announcement to Fr. Oliveira in Brazil — that Our Lady will give us a great sign this October 13 — this intended visit is quite significant.

Conchita Gonzalez of Garabandal predicted “dos astros chocando” (Sp. “two stars colliding”) may also allude at these “two stars” being the leaders of the Roman Church and Russian Orthodoxy and also to the much prophesied “collision” or war between Russia and Europe. It won’t take us long to know for sure. August 31 is just around the corner.

[Eagle Eye]

I know this post will upset many, but from all information I have, it results that Vatican is the place that is being protected by the evil rulers.
Jesus was betrayed by apostle Peter, it's in the Bible. Jesus called apostle Peter "Satan" in verse 16:23 Matthew.
Vatican was founded by apostle Peter and named in latin "divine serpent" or Vatican. That place doesn't have anything to do with devotion to our Creator nor with real Jesus. Just take a simple look at all those pagan symbols. Although I could say that some priests in there have dedicated their life for a good cause, but those who are in control of Vatican are evil people.

[Harmony]

I know this post will upset many, but from all information I have, it results that Vatican is the place that is being protected by the evil rulers.
Jesus was betrayed by apostle Peter, it's in the Bible. Jesus called apostle Peter "Satan" in verse 16:23 Matthew.
Vatican was founded by apostle Peter and named in latin "divine serpent" or Vatican. That place doesn't have anything to do with devotion to our Creator nor with real Jesus. Just take a simple look at all those pagan symbols. Although I could say that some priests in there have dedicated their life for a good cause, but those who are in control of Vatican are evil people.


I often think that yes, evil man can do a lot of damage, but they are not that powerful compared to the higher forces, and no matter what they plan it doesn't mean it will play out the way they want it to. Using our alignment with the good (or what name we have for that force) is most important. Sometimes when things look the darkest is when we can still use our power of trust and and pray and be that strength that is needed. Love doesn't sound strong, but it is.

[seehas]

I know this post will upset many, but from all information I have, it results that Vatican is the place that is being protected by the evil rulers.
Jesus was betrayed by apostle Peter, it's in the Bible. Jesus called apostle Peter "Satan" in verse 16:23 Matthew.
Vatican was founded by apostle Peter and named in latin "divine serpent" or Vatican. That place doesn't have anything to do with devotion to our Creator nor with real Jesus. Just take a simple look at all those pagan symbols. Although I could say that some priests in there have dedicated their life for a good cause, but those who are in control of Vatican are evil people.


I often think that yes, evil man can do a lot of damage, but they are not that powerful compared to the higher forces, and no matter what they plan it doesn't mean it will play out the way they want it to. Using our alignment with the good (or what name we have for that force) is most important. Sometimes when things look the darkest is when we can still use our power of trust and and pray and be that strength that is needed. Love doesn't sound strong, but it is.

they are a little fly on the back of a sleeping lion - and they do everything they can to prevent the lion from ever waking up

https://i.ibb.co/Rbb2sSd/lionsmall.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

Published 3 weeks ago, crystal clear, and just 10 minutes long. The Priest in the video title is Father Oliveira.

Heaven warns Priest: The Great Tribulation: October 2023 is a Key. Marian Sign on 13th of October


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqf-A7fvtqQ

[Rizotto]

Friday October 13, 2023 ...
Seems like October 13 is a recurring 'special' date.

On Friday October 13, 1307 the Templar Knights in France were arrested by order of the king.
The Fatima 'miracle of the sun' occurred on Saturday October 13, 1917

[Kryztian]

Friday October 13, 2023 ...
Seems like October 13 is a recurring 'special' date.

Indeed. Adding to your list.



October 13th, 54 A.D. the Emperor Claudius of Rome was assassinated by poisoning, presumably by his wife Julia Agrippina so that her son Nero could become Emperor. Nero, as most know, was one of the most cruel and disastrous Emperors in history.


On Friday October 13, 1307 the Templar Knights in France were arrested by order of the king.

October 13th, 1884. After Pope Leo XIII said mass, presumably at the Vatican in Rome


... he turned to step down the stairs and allegedly collapsed, falling into what was originally thought to be a coma, but was rather a mystical ecstasy. As the priests and cardinals rushed to his side, Leo XIII rose and visibly shaken, brushed off his aides and rushed back towards his apartment where he immediately wrote the Prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel. Leo XIII reportedly saw a vision of demons being released from Hell, however, just as the vision ended, he saw Saint Michael charge in and drive them all back into Hell. Leo XIII mandated that the prayer be said after every Mass from that point forth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_XIII#Audiences




The Fatima 'miracle of the sun' occurred on Saturday October 13, 1917

October 13th 1973, in a Catholic convent near Akita, Japan, sister Agnes Sasagawa receives the last of the three messages, and the most apocalyptic of the three. A statues of Mary had previously been seen to be weeping, and images of it had be broadcast on Japanese television. On this occasion, many nuns said they saw the statues come of life.

[Kryztian]

October 13th 1973, in a Catholic convent near Akita, Japan, sister Agnes Sasagawa receives the last of the three messages, and the most apocalyptic of the three. A statues of Mary had previously been seen to be weeping, and images of it had be broadcast on Japanese television. On this occasion, many nuns said they saw the statues come of life.
[/LIST]

After I wrote this, I was wondering about Sister Agnes of Akita. Was she still alive? And then, this was suggested by Youtube:

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Indeed she is! She turned 93 in May. She is living in a secular care facility. Her mind is still sharp but she needs lots of care. The facility does not allow visitors because of COVID (they are now observing strict rules that we would have seen in place in the U.S. two years ago.) There is not much to say about from this visit but the makers of the video are hoping to soon follow up.

The makers of the video also speculated that they think the church wants to see her as forgotten. And I think they are right. The church does not want to hear from any more visionaries, especially those that have a certain amount of fame. They don't want them speaking out about how the church is going to fall apart.

[Rizotto]

Here's some of my misgivings and questions about these prophecies. First, I should say that I was born and raised in the middle of a very religious Catholic family/community. I recall clearly the intense piety and rituals of the Catholic church. As a child I never questioned anything, but as a teenager I learned the history of the church, also I read the entire bible, and decided that I no longer wanted to be part of the Catholic church. (Jesus' message of 'be kind to others' was enough.)

The above prophecies mention that many top clergy in the church WILL become apostate, i.e. at some future time. But as far as I'm concerned, top clergy in the catholic church became apostates way back in the middle-ages when they ordered or condoned the terrible torture and executions of those deemed heretics or witches, the violent 'crusades', etc. Is it too harsh of me to say that the lack of remorse and reparation on the part of the church for those crimes points to ongoing apostasy to this day. So, these prophecies of upcoming apostasy sound rather hollow to me. As well as the call for repetitive prayers, scapularies, holy water, sacrifices, and weeping statues.

Such ritualistic practices may result in various outcomes. On one hand they train one's mind to focus and reshape towards certain aspirations. On the other hand, rituals may induce a state of hypnosis that may weaken one's ability for critical thinking. But there is a third potential impact regarding continuous prayers for protection from a prophesied world-wide catastrophe. It has to do with the fact that our thoughts and consciousness have an impact on the material world. What if these prayers about impending disaster raise the level of psychic energy to the point that it actually creates or aggravates the disaster.

Then enters the ETs scenario and their ability to alter human consciousness, which I personally think is the most likely source behind all these visions. Is there a possibility that ETs are deliberately manipulating human consciousness to create a critical mass of docile people that will follow instructions to pray about an impending catastrophe. In other words, they use people's manipulated psychic energy to induce certain geo-political disasters, or steer these events into certain directions.

Okay, that's the worse case scenario. Perhaps the 12,000 years cycle impending disaster is unavoidable, and few will survive anyway. And I could be completely wrong about everything...

[Eagle Eye]

Dear son, listen carefully: October this year will begin a period of great tribulation, foreseen by me when I was in France, in Portugal and in Spain. On those three occasions, I spoke about the cause for these [coming] tribulations. Be prepared, above all spiritually, for this period will not start with thunder, but will be gradual and will spread slowly throughout the world.

The war [already] started will increase, as you saw above. There will be droughts, great storms and earthquakes in various places in the world. But as My Divine Son says: when you hear rumors, don’t be afraid!
Use the Miraculous Medal always, starting today, and also distribute it to your flock. Illness will not be the only evil that will spread; spiritual evil will be worse. Illness, however, will be a great scourge. Place the Medal of St. Benedict on the door and do not fail to wear the Scapular. Have blessed candles, blessed oil and holy water. Have no more doubts about the Good Samaritan Oil, bless it and use it. Try to maintain the state of grace, because the demons will attack humanity with very strong temptations, above all against the priests.

Pray for them and pray for you too, who are also a priest. Always remember who you are! Pray also for your Bishop and for all bishops. Pray a lot for the Holy Father, fasting and making sacrifices for him. I, your Mother and Queen, will be with all those who have entrusted themselves to my care and will not leave any of my children destitute, as I promised many times.

I must alert you: these times are part of what I said in my Third Secret, in Portugal. On October 13th, I will give you a sign, as you asked me; that’s why I showed you that date. I received from God the mission to guard, with the holy angels that the Lord placed at my service, all those who gave their lives to me. There will be great devastation from Russia, instigated by the Dragon from Hell. This will cause damage to the all the world.

But you however, fear not! This is the opportune time for holiness. Remember that the great saints appeared in moments of great darkness. Times of tribulation, especially this one, must not be faced with fear and cowardice, but with love and courage. See, son, that is why I have called you in this hour, so that you may remember and announce that the opportune time for holiness is now, today — not tomorrow.

Eucharistic Adoration must be your anchor, and the chain of that anchor, the Holy Rosary. Eucharistic Adoration, acts of reparation and sacrifices, united with the Holy Rosary, can change all the prophecies! Don’t forget this: Adoration and Holy Rosary. Do penance, offer sacrifices for the salvation of souls, for the conversion of sinners and the sanctification of the Clergy.

Remember that the Lord knows everything and commands everything. Soon, the triumph of My Immaculate Heart will arrive! Remain faithful in this time of purification, trust in the help of your Guardian Angel. The time for saints is now. Pray, dear son, pray and watch, as I called you today. Pray and watch.
Ecclesiasticus 18:7-14

There is a simple rule, no apparition or messages has to contradict the Scriptures, if so, then it's not a real one. I have marked those words where they contradicts the Scriptures. If those words marked weren't said, I would have taken them into consideration. The only thing that caught my attention was that she has called Jesus in the right way "my divine son" and not son of God or god himself.

[Bill Ryan]

There is a simple rule, no apparition or messages has to contradict the Scriptures, if so, then it's not a real one. I have marked those words where they contradicts the Scriptures. If those words marked weren't said, I would have taken them into consideration.But you may be missing the most important point. :flower:

I very much doubt that these visions were from the 'real' Virgin Mary, or any traditional Catholic personage. (And the same with the messages imparted to many other visionaries at Fatima, Akita, Garabandal, Zeitoun, Medjugorje, the Cajas mountains of Ecuador, Rwanda, and literally dozens of others (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marian_apparitions).)

The key thing here is that (a) something real happened in every instance (these were not fantasies or delusions), and (b) there's a marked similarity in much of the information received.

Someone or something, of a paranormal nature, is trying to tell us something. We need to remember that not all the beings that have imparted such messages were connected with Catholic tradition. The Hopi Prophecies, as just one example.

Our own human traditions and beliefs might simply be being used as a vehicle to impart messages that might be heard. Maybe we should listen?

[Eagle Eye]

I think those prophecies has something in common, they all refer to: The end of this cycle (Day of Judgement). All Scriptures speak about that, all prophets have said that it will come when nobody expects it, but still there will be signs that it has approached. I am not speaking about christianity, because Jesus and Mary weren't christians at all. Christianity was a religious branch formed after Jesus timeline. They were chosen by God, to speak God's message, as there were others before and after.
Our question is: Will something happen to restore this balance and the majority will start to live in the right way until the End, or there will be only tribulations until the End. I hope that until next year, we will have an answer for that.

[Kryztian]

There is a simple rule, no apparition or messages has to contradict the Scriptures, if so, then it's not a real one.

Here you go again, using Islamic texts and Islamic theology to judge things that happen within the Christian world.

:facepalm:

This is a little bit like finding fault with someone's sentences written in Mandarin Chinese because they violate the rules of Latin grammar, or moving your chess pieces on the board according to the rules of checkers.

Mariology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariology), the study of Mary, the mother of Jesus, has always been pursued by theologians and made to be in conformity with Christian Bible. Of course, different Christian denominations and theologians will disagree about her perpetual virginity, whether she had children after Jesus, whether she is an intercessor, whether or not she is sinless, and whether the woman who gave birth to Jesus is related to the same as the being behind these apparitions. Nevertheless, this entire body of theology does not contradict the Christian Bible.

In some denominations, there are doctrines like The Dormition of Mary (Eastern Orthodox and some Oriental Orthodox), The Assumption of Mary (Roman Catholic, some Oriental Orthodox and some Anglican) and the Immaculate Conception (just Roman Catholic). None of these doctrines are supported by scripture, but they don't contradict it either. They are supported by tradition, not scripture. These beliefs have been passed on for almost two thousand years through writings, oral tradition, art, music, poetry and rituals. Many religions of the world, especially pagan ones, have no scripture, or have not through most of their history, and are completely defined by tradition. For the majority of Christians (Roman & Eastern Catholics, Eastern & Oriental Orthodox, Anglicans) our beliefs are defined by scripture and tradition. Of course, some Protestants would disagree and see that beliefs are only justified by scripture and would see these tradition based beliefs as heresy.

I don't mean to preach or go off topic here, just to correct the errors which you are once again introducing into this and other threads, which make them go off topic. So that we can have a clearer and more meaningful discussion on the forum, I would suggest that when you say "The Scriptures", you need to be clear about what that means. Both the word "The" and the capitol "S" in scriptures would incidate that you are talking about a clearly agreed upon body of texts. Since the vast majority of people on the forum are from "Christendom", that is, the world dominated by Christianity (The English, Spanish and Portuguese speaking world, European Countries (not including Bosnia, Kosovo, Albania), they most probably and rightly assume that "The Scriptures" referes to the Christian Bible (which includes the Hebrew bible) and not the Koran. Of course, the forum could benefit by someone who was a good scholar of the Koran, but like everyone else, that person should be clear about which texts they are talking about.

[Eagle Eye]

None of these doctrines are supported by scripture, but they don't contradict it either. They are supported by tradition, not scripture. These beliefs have been passed on for almost two thousand years through writings, oral tradition, art, music, poetry and rituals.

You answered by yourself what christianity is about. It's mainly tradition than Scripture. If I have to put a percentage I would say 20% Scripture, 70% tradition and 10% constant changes.
When I refer to Scriptures, I don't refer only to Quran but to every Scripture since time of Abraham, without the changed part that made Jesus son of God or god.
Torah, Psalms, Bible and Quran had to be only additional to each other and not contradicting and from all the Scriptures, the only part that contradicts is the part where Jesus is said to be son of God or god. That is obvious for everyone who is into Scripture that it is a corrupted part.

[Michel Leclerc]

Eagle Eye thank you for the percentages.

ALL Scriptures (those used by Judaism, those used by Christianity, those used by Islam, those used by Zoroastrism – but also, I have heard, the canonical texts of Buddhism) have been damaged by all kinds of events including natural catastrophes, as well as redacted, corrected and rewritten for religious-political or just political reasons.

As far as Islam goes, the hawadith are probably more reliable (thanks to the chain of transmission) than the Quranic Surahs themselves, which show interpolations, conflations, as well as traces of scrambling and distortion of passages. After the Prophet died, the powerful had no issues streamlining the “Word of God” to their needs.
The Sufi, who are the real depositories of the Quranic message (“Read!”), interpret the Scriptures according to the spirit, not the letter (which was also recommended by Paul).

This very evening I had a fascinating theological discussion with a young hitchhiker and devout Christian which led us to the agreement and common understanding that it is faith in the Divine, love for the Divine, and – to add a Christian note here – hope that the Divine will come to us that justify the Scriptures, and not the Scriptures that justify our faith, love and hope.

The spirit needs the letter to spread its wings, but the letter without the spirit dies at birth.

[Kryztian]

You answered by yourself what christianity is about. It's mainly tradition than Scripture.

Please go back to my last post, I clearly and absolutely DID NOT SAY THAT and it is very clear that you are intentionally mangling my word !!!! I said that some Christianity is based on Scripture AND Tradition. I never said anything like MOSTLY Tradition. In fact, if I had to put a percentage on it, it would be 99% scripture. Since I know the Roman Catholic religion the best, I can tell you that based on the Catechism, the official teachings to the people of the church, 99% is based on Scripture and and 1% on Tradition. That is also true for the Liturgy - the texts that are proclaimed in church. There are only two R.C. doctrines which come from tradition: The Assumption and The Immaculate Conception. Some Protestants would insist that their theology is 100% derived from scripture.


When I refer to Scriptures, I don't refer only to Quran but to every Scripture since time of Abraham, without the changed part that made Jesus son of God or god.

In other words, your are talking about ISLAM. Your are referring to the Quran, and to other texts as re-interpreted by Islamic theology in a way that no Christian (and possibly no Jew) would relate to. And you are talking to an audience here where the vast majority, if they know much about Abrahamic religions, know much more about Christianity and Judiasm. But instead of saying "from an Islamic perspective" or "according to the Quran" you talk about "The Scriptures" as if this was some pan-Abrahamic perspective, which there clearly is not. So you are being knowingly deceptive. You are being dishonest here and also when you mangled my words which are clearly different from the post above. I don't believe there are any scriptural traditions in the world that would appreciate your dishonesty. And here are some scriptural excerpts to back this up:


[Quran 33:70–1] O you who believe, reverence GOD and utter only the correct utterances. He will then fix your works, and forgive your sins….

[Psalm 15:1–2] O Lord, who may abide in your tent? Who may dwell on your holy hill? Those who walk blamelessly, …and speak the truth from their heart.

[John 1:17] The law indeed was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

[Hindu scripture — Mahābhārata 12.190.5] Where there is truth, there is Dharma; where there is Dharma, there is light; and where there is light, there is happiness….

[Buddhist scripture — The Dhammapada 223] ….Overcome the liar by truth.

[Saying of Confucius] “They who know the truth are not equal to those who love it, and they who love it are not equal to those who delight in it.”

[Eagle Eye]

Read all of them and decide for yourself. I think I have seen the truth, but I won't insist to make others see, against their will.

[Bill Ryan]

Mod note from Bill:

:focus: — please. :) This thread is about the Visions of Father Oliveira, and their possible connection to (a) current events, and (b) various other visions and prophecies over the years. We have no reason to doubt that his experiences are real, or that Father Oliveira (a pseudonym, btw) is both a devout Catholic and a man of the highest integrity.

My own interest in this topic (and I suspect, that of most readers) is what his visions might help us understand about possible imminent global events. It's very clear to me that we're all being warned about something, by someone or something. What those unknowns might be seems to be worth considering and discussing.

We could readily open another thread about the authenticity of the many reported Marian apparitions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marian_apparitions) as seen through the lens of the Catholic Church, or as measured by a range of other standards. I have no problem with that at all.

But for me, the issue of the apparitions' authenticity (or 'approval', as is sometimes written) has already been established by the Catholic Church itself, with a handful of events still apparently being 'studied'. (After all these years, too!) My lay understanding of what that stated 'authenticity' means is that it's been formally judged that these events, together with their messages, really were experienced exactly as reported.

:flower:

[Bill Ryan]

Carlos Caso-Rivendi, who has been reporting all of Father Olivera's visions to his English-speaking followers, linked to this new article yesterday. I'll copy it in full. The article was published in September 2022.

https://lifesitenews.com/blogs/prophecy-war-will-break-out-in-europe-after-pope-visits-moscow
(https://lifesitenews.com/blogs/prophecy-war-will-break-out-in-europe-after-pope-visits-moscow)
Prophecy: War will break out in Europe after Pope visits Moscow

Glenn Hudson, an expert on the apparitions of Our Lady of Garabandal, explains our Blessed Mother's warnings of conditional chastisement, Padre Pio's belief in the apparitions, and what it all means for Catholics today.

Here’s something truly fascinating: You know how this movie is coming out with Shia LaBeouf (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-padre-pio-film-starring-shia-labeouf-could-be-the-popes-worst-nightmare/) about a very famous saint in the Catholic Church called Padre Pio? Well, Padre Pio, while he was alive, he had the stigmata, the wounds of Jesus in his hands and feet and so on. But he was super well known also for his love for a particular apparition of Our Lady, the mother of Jesus, to people to explain what was coming in the world.

The prophets always foretell what’s coming in the world, and one of the most astounding things about this vision in Garabandal was about what was coming. What was coming is a possible chastisement.

But before that, also a warning to all mankind, where they will be able to see what their soul is like. And that is all predicated on what’s coming right before that: the Pope’s visit to Moscow.

Remember how Pope Francis said right before he came to Canada that he was still going to go to Canada, he’s not going to retire, and then then after that he’s going to Moscow? Check it out; it’s in the news (https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1543944789535621120).

We’re going to talk about that right now with the world’s foremost expert on Garabandal. In fact, not only just expert in it, but someone who is the spokesman for the last living visionary of Garabandal, Conchita González.

In this episode of The John-Henry Westen Show, you’ll hear Glenn Hudson explain our Blessed Mother’s warnings of conditional chastisement, Padre Pio’s belief in the apparitions, the prophecy about a European war after the Pope’s visit to Moscow, and what it all means for Catholics today.
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[Eagle Eye]

The Prophecy of Archbishop Malachy:
In the final persecution of the Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people.

If that prophecy will become true, it means that after pope Francis, the next one (most probable) will be Peter Turkson, the black pope. He will witness the fall of Vatican.

[Bill Ryan]

The Prophecy of Archbishop Malachy:
In the final persecution of the Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people.

If that prophecy will become true, it means that after pope Francis, the next one (most probable) will be Peter Turkson, the black pope. He will witness the fall of Vatican.Yes. Saint Malachy's prophetic list of future popes, which was discovered in 1590, has been the subject of much controversy and disagreement. It's all here in full (https://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Beasts/St.Malachy%27s.prophecy.112.final.popes.html), and does seem to correspond closely with the possibility of the imminent end of the papacy (and presumably the end of the Catholic Church).

I posted this (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121036-The-Visions-of-Father-Oliveira&p=1556525&viewfull=1#post1556525) back on 9 May:

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Here is what the Henoch Prophecies say about the pope.


“After the turn of the millennium, the papacy will exist only a short period. Pope John Paul II is the third from last in this position. After him, only one additional pontificate will follow. Then a Pontifex Maximus follows who will be known as Petrus Romanus. Under his religious rule, the end of the Catholic Church will come, a total collapse becoming inevitable. That will be the beginning of the worst catastrophe that will ever have befallen the human beings and the Earth. Many Catholic clerics, priests, bishops, cardinals and many others will be killed and their blood will flow in streams. But also the reformed version of Christianity will become just as infinitely small, as does Catholicism.”

This information was published in 1987 by Billy Meier (and has been online since at least 2006)In rather grim black and white:

If this is accurate, that means that the current Pope Francis would be the last pope. He's currently 86 years old, and he'll be 87 in December. So this would imply that whatever war and/or catastrophe is foretold here, the timing would certainly be within the next 6 or 7 years — and probably within the next 3 or 4.

[Eagle Eye]

Knowing the fact that one pope has resigned and another has taken his place, it's probable that there is a last one to come, before the event.

[Eagle Eye]

Has people ever asked: why Vatican has never been attacked (except accidents that has happened)?

Every prophet has been attacked by evil forces. People in power of that time tried to kill Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and Muhammad. Jerusalem (The Holy Land) has been attacked many times, also Mecca has been attacked and destroyed. So all those things that were appointed holy by God has been a target by evil forces.
So why Vatican has never been a target by evil forces?! I have the answer, but christians won't like it.

According to Malachy prophecy, it says a terrible judge (not a terrible enemy, or terrible oppressor). So maybe was refering to someone who will bring justice in a hard way, even if it means to destroy Vatican.

[seehas]

So why Vatican has never been a target by evil forces?! I have the answer, but christians won't like it.



because the vatican is the centre of evil forces on this planet

[Eagle Eye]

because the vatican is the centre of evil forces on this planet

The hierarchy of evil, hidden by the illusion of good on the outside. Lucifer playing his game of deception as an angel and as the devil.
If someone will be chosen to bring the justice, has to start from there.

[Eagle Eye]

Vatican
https://citywonders.com/media/20792/vatican-st-peters-dome.jpg

Paris
https://media.istockphoto.com/id/178377825/photo/paris-pantheon.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=5pkWlU_SZE5VmH13z3NJI773ufspclcvKTV3CLS_CsU=

United States
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/NINTCHDBPICT000546457141.jpg


They all wanted a place in the hierarchy of power, so they mirrored Vatican.


At your first thought, whose throne does it look like?!
https://cdn-imgix.headout.com/mircobrands-content/image/7b4001fa2046408052ac8268a54c9b36-St.%20peter's%20chair%20doctors.jpg

[syrwong]

I am quite interested in prophecy. Because of the abundance of predictions for the end-time, which I believe we are in its beginning, I can gather from the rich information from the prophets and psychics and spiritual persons to make some speculations.

1. The Revelation prophecy says that there will be pestilence, war, famine and mass deaths in the endtime. This is not hard to guess they will all come in the endtime, until you realize they might be coming in the exact order. The pandemic lasted exactly 3 years. The first reported covid in China was in the last date of Dec, 2019, and China ended its zeio-covid policy abruptly in mid Dec, 2022, removed all restrictions in early January. This is exactly 3 years. Allow me to extrapolate this to speculate that the four horsemen are coming one by one nonstopped - 3 years for each of them. So that 2020-2022 are the pandemic years, 2023-2025 three years of great wars, 2026-2028 three years of famine and 2029-2031 the mass deaths prenamed agenda30.

2. When will the Economic collapse, the death of the Dollar? According to Dan Burish, economic collapse comes before the third world war. So the important day/month revealed by Father Oliveira might be this October. Certain this is a very great event. I have learned that this alone is likely to cause many millions of deaths, particularly in the poor countries. A date I might speculate is Oct 25, which happens to be a seasonal day in the Chinese Lunar Calendar, and is also 911, the eleventh day of the ninth month.

3. For the war to be WW3, it is likely that China will be involved by invading Taiwan soon after the Dollar collapses. (That is a historical certainty due territorial reasons, whether successful or not.) May also be a reprisal to the US erasing the debts by collapsing the Dollar.

The above are just guesswork for pendering and for fun. The future is almost impossible to predict, particularly with exact days. We are always caught by surprise when great events happen.

[onawah]

Lots more record breaking and disastrous flooding happening in China now, including Beijing, with ever more dams and other infrastructure failing, and no respite in sight.
See the posts starting here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111363-Turmoil-in-China&p=1569827&viewfull=1#post1569827


The breaking apart of and mud coming out of China could well have something to do with the ongoing and persistent failure of the thousands of dams constructed in China, resulting in floods of mud.


This is more precise, a direct translation of what Father Olivera wrote in Portuguese, published on 3 March 2023. It clarifies what he "saw" and what he interpreted, and also contains a lot more fine detail.

I saw the flag of China. She suddenly breaks apart and something like mud starts to come out of her.

I interpreted: Many hidden things will be revealed in China, or from China.

[Bill Ryan]

I didn't know where best to post this, but here seemed more fitting than on the WW3/Ukraine thread. Look at this astonishing 20-second video. :stars:

The text:

In the Krasnogorsk Military Hospital, named after Vishnevsky, an amazing phenomenon occurred - the imprint of the Mother of God appeared on all the glass doors leading from the first to the sixth floor up to the intensive care room. Father Svyatoslav Churkanov shared information about this event on social media.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/58282
Slavyangrad/58282

[Szymon]

I didn't know where best to post this, but here seemed more fitting than on the WW3/Ukraine thread. Look at this astonishing 20-second video. :stars:

The text:

In the Krasnogorsk Military Hospital, named after Vishnevsky, an amazing phenomenon occurred - the imprint of the Mother of God appeared on all the glass doors leading from the first to the sixth floor up to the intensive care room. Father Svyatoslav Churkanov shared information about this event on social media.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/58282
Slavyangrad/58282

Looks like a great hospital with a lot of detail and attention. Here is an album.

https://gs.yandex.com/maps/org/tsentralny_voyenny_klinichesky_gospital_imeni_a_a_vishnevskogo/1124555829/gallery/?ll=37.293532%2C55.810491&photos%5Bbusiness%5D=1124555829&z=15

https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-altay/4454943/2a00000181f17cc1c6a52de650e96bda8fa7/XL

[Bill Ryan]

An interesting discussion about The Moscow Prophecy*, published less than an hour ago. I'd highly recommend it for those who've been following this thread. It's 15 mins long, can easily be played at 1.25x speed, and there are shown some interesting historical images from Fatima and Garabandal. (In my opinion, the video title is clickbait-misleading. The narration is really very balanced.)

The video is very unusual (for this channel!) in its explicit, accurate, but also careful commentary on geopolitical events, including the war in Ukraine and Ukraine's own war, sometimes a violent one, against Orthodox Christianity.
* The Moscow Prophecy, one of the topics of this thread, states that after Pope Francis visits Moscow, military events will escalate and spread in Europe. A meeting has now been announced (but only in Russia) as a forthcoming event, on either 31 August or 4-5 September.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QkkaphG3xw

[Ewan]

An interesting discussion about The Moscow Prophecy*, published less than an hour ago. I'd highly recommend it for those who've been following this thread. It's 15 mins long, can easily be played at 1.25x speed, and there are shown some interesting historical images from Fatima and Garabandal. (In my opinion, the video title is clickbait-misleading. The narration is really very balanced.)


I have not been following the thread because I tend to shy away from prophecy in the belief/fear that it can influence thinking; (as can any information, obviously).
Insignificant on an individual level but collectively, as a mass of minds, I cannot help but find that concerning. Just look at how the 'woke programming' is working so effectively in young minds hungry for a purpose in understanding the mess that is this world. Never stopping to think that the Andean shepherd, the Kalahari Bushman and the South Sea Islander fisherman would think them insane!

So from 3:17 to 3:43 in the video posted they point out that the word 'Moscow' never appeared in the original quotes in the book?

[Kryztian]

... Francis has proposed to Patriarch Kirill to meet at a Moscow Airport either on his way to Mongolia in August 31 or when returning back on September 4. The Papal airplane must stop at Moscow for refueling. The city of Moscow has two airports suitable for the airplane to land.

This was predicted both in Garabandal and in the prophecies of Fr. Oliveira.

This is one of the elements of a triad of events that mark the beginning of the tail end of the End Times. Some have announced that they will occur within a very short time.


Pope visits Moscow.
Two “stars” collide.
War breaks in Europe, Rome is destroyed and the Pope can’t get to the Vatican. (Due to occupation?)



It is now three days before the Pope's planned visit to Mongolia. There is still no official word from the Vatican or the Russian Orthodox church as to whether the Pope and the Patriarch will meet. Yesterday, the Catholic News Agency did a story about the popes visit and what it means in turns of the churches relationship with Russia, China and North Korea, which helps to explain why the Pope is making a trip to a country with only 1,450 Catholics. From What Pope Francis’ trip to Mongolia could mean for Vatican relations with Russia and China (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/255199/what-pope-francis-trip-to-mongolia-could-mean-for-vatican-relations-with-russia-and-china):


Russian state media has already signaled that it is paying close attention to the pope’s trip. The Kremlin-owned Tass news outlet even suggested the possibility of a papal plane layover in the Moscow airport as a “neutral” location for Pope Francis to meet Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill.

The reporter for this article is in the Vatican, but her only news source on whether there will be a meeting is the Russian Tass outlet? I have to imagine that since the Pope contacted Patriarch Kirill that there has been a lot of back channel communication, but they are being completely silent about what is happening.

I have to wonder what Kirill thinks of Fatima, Garabandal, and the messages of people like Fr. Oliveria. Is he laughing at the crazy Roman Catholics and their Marian delusions? Does he think Satan is behind these apparitions and messages? Or does he wonder why the Virgin Mary is sending messages to the Romans and not the Orthodox?

But the Russian Orthodox also have a strange story about the Virgin Mary, regarding an icon known as Our Lady of Kazan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Kazan). The icon is believed to have come from Constantinople, but in the late 1500's was located in the city of Kazan about 500 miles West of Moscow. The image was stolen in 1904 and is believed to have been destroyed, however, there is another image, known at the "Fátima image" which could have been a copy from the 1500's, or could possibly be the original.

In the late 1569 there was violent conflict between the Russians and the Tartars in Kazan.


According to tradition, one night a little girl had a dream in which Our Lady appeared to her and told her to go to the ruins of a church that had been burnt down, and "there you will find my image."

The child's mother refused to let her go out, arguing that it was too dangerous. However, after having the dream for two more consecutive nights in a row, Our Lady said she would become upset if the girl didn't go.

So the next morning, the child's mother accompanied her to the church, where they saw a golden light amid the ashes. When they brushed the soot away, they saw that they were holding an image of Mary and the Child Jesus, and that it was glowing.

As they were holding it, a blind man in the area was said to have regained his sight, and the image became known as a miraculous icon. Word of the event spread and eventually reached the tsar in Moscow, who asked that the image be brought to the capital.

"Over the centuries the icon became known as the 'protection of Russia,'"

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/36607/our-lady-of-kazan-and-marys-affinity-for-russia


The Fátima icon traces back to 1953 when it was purchased by F.A. Mitchell-Hedges (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._A._Mitchell-Hedges). (The very same Mitchell-Hedges who also "discovered" a famous crystal skull in the wilds of Honduras in the 1920's!!!) His daughter eventually sold the icon to the Blue Army of Our Lady of Fátima in 1970, and it was enshrined in Fátima, Portugal and then in 1993 was given to Pope John Paul who wanted to returned the icon to Russia.


However, the Russian Orthodox Church did not want the icon to be returned during a papal visit for fear that it would seem like a triumphant return for the Catholic Church, and not for the Orthodox.

In the end, the icon was handed over in 2004, by Cardinal Walter Kasper, then the president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, and Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, then the Archbishop of Washington, who traveled to Moscow and placed it in the hands of Patriarch Alexey II.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/36607/our-lady-of-kazan-and-marys-affinity-for-russia


The image is now nicknamed “Vatikanskaya” and is housed in a Roman Catholic church in the city of Kazan, Church of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Exaltation_of_the_Holy_Cross,_Kazan).


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Kazan_Fatima.jpg
The Fátima version of Our Lady of Kazan.

[Tintin]

....on Rome burning....

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Forgive my musings here folks but I've been processing these thoughts of late whilst pivoting around the Oliveiran prophesies. Think of it as thinking aloud :)

Q: how exactly might Rome 'burn'? "War in Europe"
M: (= Musings) Regional/European current geopolitical background that might involve anything of a military nature with any scenario possibly escalating beyond Ukraine, but could it ever reach mainland Italy and specifically Rome? Bear with me here:



- Hungary making diplomatic gestures toward Transcarpathia, anticipated by some commentators quite some time ago, as a potential scenario, targeted for reacquisition-reabsorption

- Austria/Hungary linking forces again as per Austro-Hungarian empire?

- Poland/Lithuania making similarly atavistic overtures toward Volyn/Galicia - old Ruthenia (Lvov/Rivne/Zakarpattia - western modern Ukraine) already mooted widely in the agora, and legacy and independent media

- Moldova, with some suggestions that one of its regions may attempt a break from Moldova proper? The region name escapes me at present but I think the south-eastern part of Moldova? - need to follow that up; Transnistria already declared independent with an ethnic Russian population and permanent troop security presence

- Serbia and Kosovo: in danger of flaring up again, big-time.

And here's kind of the rub of where I'm getting to viz the preamble:

Based on 'prophecy' post a Papal visit to Moscow and the 'fate' of Rome: at the moment it's a little tricky getting a handle on quite who will, and quite how Rome would get 'burned'. Geographically this appears logistically tricky from the point of view of, for example Russia or Serbia effecting any kind of attack on Italy/Rome although everything is within reach with modern precision-missile range capability. Austria is neutral, as are Switzerland, sort of, meaning not-so much economically but militarily.

Gut says an 'Operation Gladio' (MI6) style sponsored false flag event from inside Italy itself, but, why? An attempt to destroy Catholic Christianity in Europe, says the good money. I don't anticipate Tunisia being geographically close to Italy wading in any time soon, anywhere, although given how very tense and unpredictable things are geopolitically across-the-board right now, anything is possible, but, there aren't any obvious signs that this is remotely plausible, so, no is the best answer to that piece of wild speculation there.

The only other possibly logical scenario would be a submarine launched missile of some kind from the Mediterranean. Whose, though? Not Russia. There's nothing to gain for them by destroying Rome; not their style anyway to reach so far beyond their own borders. And, no need at all. Israel? Heaven only knows. They're a pretty crazy bunch and one wouldn't put anything past them, egged on by their western allies.

But all this, although not entirely impossible, still doesn't really cut it. How will the "war in Europe" as prophesised unfold, and what would be the spark, the catalyst?

So: perhaps maybe not a manmade military event per se, but a volcanic event, a geophysical event? Might that be the cause?

Naples and Rome are not so distant from one another either.

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Right Next Door to Mount Vesuvius, an Even More Destructive Volcano Lies in Wait - Campi Flegrei

Source: https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a42177704/campi-flegrei-most-dangerous-volcano-in-italy/
Published July 7th, 2023
Map of Italy: https://www.worldatlas.com/maps/italy

Extract:


Predicting an Eruption
According to Pappalardo, what is currently underway at Campi Flegrei is the phenomenon called bradyseism—a combination of the Greek words “βραδύς” meaning slow and “σεισμός” meaning earthquake. In volcanology, bradyseism refers to a gradual uplift or descent of part of Earth’s surface, caused by an underground magma chamber being filled or vacated, or because intense hydrothermal activity is taking place inside the caldera, a large, round depression in the ground created by the collapse of a volcanic landform.

“Particularly from 2005 to today, the center of the caldera has risen by 98 centimeters,” says Pappalardo, or over 38 inches. In some cases, ground uplift can indeed be a precursor to an eruption, as was the case when Campi Flegrei last erupted in 1538 A.D. Yet, between 1970 to 1972 and 1982 to 1984, Campi Flegrei’s ground surface rose by about 3.5 meters (11.5 feet), and no eruption occurred–just considerable seismic activity.

“Thus, ground uplift is not the only parameter that has to be considered to understand the ‘normal’ state of a volcano, but instead it is the set of geochemical, seismic, deformation, gravimetric indicators, and more that allows us to forecast the future behavior of the volcano,” says Pappalardo.


So, just some thoughts, that aren't entirely all-over-the-place, but there, all the same. I guess we'll just have to wait, and see...

:focus: on prophecy

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Campi Flegrei is a serious concern. As a supervolcano -- not just a regular one -- it's on a par with Yellowstone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera) and Toba (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Toba), and if it went up it wouldn't just endanger Rome, it would bury it, and very likely all of Europe.

This additional report (from July) isn't all doom and gloom however. Although there are signs of increased activity it doesn't necessarily indicate an eruption is imminent.

The Campi Flegrei volcano’s crust is weakening
July 3rd

....The volcano last erupted in 1538 and has been unrest-free for more than 70 years, with two-year increases in the 1950s, 1970s, and 1980s and a slower period in the past ten years. During these times, tens of thousands of minor earthquakes have occurred, and the coastal town of Pozzuoli has risen by almost 4 meters.

The study, published in Nature Communications Earth & Environment, used a fracturing volcano model created at UCL to evaluate earthquakes and ground uplift patterns and determined that portions of the volcano had been stretched nearly to breaking point.

Lead author Professor Christopher Kilburn (UCL Earth Sciences) said, “Our new study confirms that Campi Flegrei is moving closer to rupture. However, this does not guarantee an eruption. The breach may have opened a break in the crust, but magma must still be moving up in the appropriate place for an eruption.

[....]The team emphasized that an eruption was not inevitable. Dr. Stefano Carlino from the Vesuvius Observatory explained, “It’s the same for all volcanoes that have been quiet for generations. Campi Flegrei may settle into a new routine of gently rising and subsiding, as seen at similar volcanoes worldwide, or return to rest. We can’t yet say for sure what will happen. The important point is to be prepared for all outcomes.”
https://www.techexplorist.com/campi-flegrei-volcanos-crust-weakening/63500/

See also this thread: Mediterranean Yellowstone: Naples' Campi Flegrei Supervolcano (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95077-Mediterranean-Yellowstone-Naples-Campi-Flegrei-Supervolcano)

[Brigantia]

....on Rome burning....

Forgive my musings here folks but I've been processing these thoughts of late whilst pivoting around the Oliveiran prophesies. Think of it as thinking aloud :)

Q: how exactly might Rome 'burn'? "War in Europe"
M: (= Musings) Regional/European current geopolitical background that might involve anything of a military nature with any scenario possibly escalating beyond Ukraine, but could it ever reach mainland Italy and specifically Rome? Bear with me here:

- Hungary making diplomatic gestures toward Transcarpathia, anticipated by some commentators quite some time ago, as a potential scenario, targeted for reacquisition-reabsorption

- Austria/Hungary linking forces again as per Austro-Hungarian empire?

Based on a conversation I had with a Hungarian guy a few years ago, this is quite possible. He complained bitterly that Hungary was now land-locked, whereas it once had a coast on the Black Sea with territory that is now in Romania. The gist was that he felt that Hungary was a shadow of its former self. I'm not sure when Hungary's coastline was lost to them as I don't believe that they held it in 1914.

Austria also became land-locked as it used to govern parts of what became Yugoslavia, mainly what is now Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina. So yes, this scenario is probable and would have the support of the people of Hungary. Perhaps Austrians too might want their coastline back.

[Eagle Eye]

Q: how exactly might Rome 'burn'?

Roman Empire isn't about Italy or Rome anymore, it is Vatican. So maybe it means a coordinated attack on Vatican. Maybe their corrupting of the word of God will come to an end.

[Ewan]

....on Rome burning....

Q: how exactly might Rome 'burn'? "War in Europe"



I believe, without quoting sources, many prophecies incorporated the idea that after the flood innundation the next global catastrophe would be fire?

Well after the recent Maui chaos and learning of previous horror stories such as 'Paradise' I would conclude that Rome burning would be relatively simple, especially considering the people with their fingers on the 'so-to-speak' trigger and absolutely bat**** crazy. They will escalate at all costs to achieve the conflagration they so desire.

You could think of it as a religous fervour, which in many ways it probably is.

[Tintin]

....on Rome burning....

Q: how exactly might Rome 'burn'? "War in Europe"



I believe, without quoting sources, many prophecies incorporated the idea that after the flood innundation the next global catastrophe would be fire?

Well after the recent Maui chaos and learning of previous horror stories such as 'Paradise' I would conclude that Rome burning would be relatively simple, especially considering the people with their fingers on the 'so-to-speak' trigger and absolutely bat**** crazy. They will escalate at all costs to achieve the conflagration they so desire.

You could think of it as a religous fervour, which in many ways it probably is.

..and undoubtedly what was really the motive behind the Great Fire of London in 1666: clearing land for redevelopment and spurring new industry that later sprung up in its aftermath. And we know how valuable City of London real estate has, well, always been, for those with the means to profit. (History chiming to the sounds of the 'Great Bell' at St. Mary-le-Bow.) Reminiscent also of Crassus' fire brigades (https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/hp9kze/til_the_first_ever_roman_fire_brigade_was_created/).


"The first ever Roman fire brigade was created by Marcus Licinius Crassus. During fires, they would do nothing while Crassus would offer to buy the burning building from the owner at a very low price. If the owner agreed, they would put out the fire. If he refused, they would simply let it burn." No prizes for guessing who started the fires...

[Tam]

Why must you have a religion, in order to see things that are going to happen?You don't. One just has to have a certain sensitivity and openness. None of this is about 'religion'. :)

And if I may add, your own belief systems can bleed into what you are experiencing. So, if you are a deeply religious person you might interpret a messenger as Christ/Mary/God etc., or assume it comes from a spiritual source. As a non-religious example technophiles could figure it is aliens sharing a message.Exactly. I'm as sure as I can be that this is how it works.

A very close analogy would be the scene towards the end of the wonderful 1997 movie Contact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(1997_American_film)), where astrophysicist Ellie (played by Jodie Foster) meets a highly advanced ET being who appears to her in the form of her father because that would be most acceptable and reassuring to her.

So Catholics may see the Virgin Mary or Mother Mary, others may see Angels (or maybe ETs), and some may even see wise Native Elders or other messengers that manifest in whatever way is easiest to accept, also communicating in ways that reflect their own Earthly belief systems.

To add to this, a lot of NDEs vary based upon the faith and beliefs of the deceased person as well. Some see a void, some see a religious icon or pearly gates, some see the iconic light at the end of a dark tunnel, etc.

I think this, and the "shapeshifting" nature of "UFO" phenomena are all important clues as to the nature of human consciousness and how it affects our reality.


Back to topic, though.

Regardless of one's personal beliefs or religious affliation, it's all about the symbolism, in my opinion. Even a Satanist will recognize what a golden cross or bleeding white doves represent.

To that end, I think it's important to not necessarily analyze these things literally. A burning of Rome may not be a Rome the city, being on fire. What could Rome represent?

Going back in history to the Roman Empire and all that followed it, one could argue Rome is emblematic of a dark masculine impulse: conquest, domination, coercion, control (particularly over nature).

This is just a light musing, but maybe we shouldn't be focusing on geopolitical shifts, at least not exclusively (some things like the Russian flag are pretty clear).

Maybe the "burning" of Rome symbolizes a purification of sorts? Fire is often used for cleansing in religious rites. A catalyzer of alchemical changes.

Just my two cents. I believe in prophecy, however, I'm also aware of the power of human collective consciousness in creating outcomes.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's what seems to be an important update, posted by Carlos Caso-Rosendi, who has been faithfully reporting information from or about Father Oliveira. His added note is at the very foot of this page.


https://casorosendi.com/2023/07/24/francis-to-meet-kirill-in-moscow-soon

~~~

August 29, 2023 — Now Francis’ plane will NOT refuel in Russia

(VATICAN NEWS) In detailing the program, he said that the Pope will leave on August 31 by plane at 6:30 p.m. from Fiumicino airport and in a nine and a half hour flight he will fly over Georgia, Azerbaijan and China, among others. The established route does not include Russia.

[Tintin]

To that end, I think it's important to not necessarily analyze these things literally. A burning of Rome may not be a Rome the city, being on fire. What could Rome represent?

Maybe the "burning" of Rome symbolizes a purification of sorts? Fire is often used for cleansing in religious rites. A catalyzer of alchemical changes.


Excellent - thanks! :highfive: And was a genuine immediate thought after I'd fired off the thought tagliatelle. That niggling sensation: "But, what am I missing here?" Likely to be more esoteric, less exoteric, or literal.

[Bill Ryan]

An update, maybe a provisional one. According to his itinerary (https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/travels/2023/outside/documents/mongolia-2023.html), Pope Francis should have touched down back in Rome 2 or 3 hours ago after his much-publicized visit to Mongolia. There have been no reports of the plane landing or refueling in Moscow, so it's seeming like the prophecy — potentially an important one that has attracted a great deal of attention and speculation — has NOT yet been realized.

This doesn't mean that such a papal visit to Moscow could not happen, but Pope Francis' health is not the best (he's now 86 years old) and traveling long distances will be increasingly wearing for him. We might be expecting interesting discussion about this on some of the Catholic websites in the next week or two.

:flower:

Edit to add:

I've not seen this discussed or suggested anywhere at all, but it does strike me that Francis must surely be fully aware of the prophecy. If so, he might interpret that it's NOT a good idea to act to manifest this into reality, as then there may be the probability of an escalating war in Europe (and, literally, God knows what else).

This of course is the stuff of good time-travel-twist stories. :) If something seems destined to happen, and one is aware of it, how does one try to avoid it? But the only way it seems possible for all this to manifest now is for Patriarch Kirill (or even Putin!) to proactively invite Francis to Moscow, in such a way that he could hardly decline the offer. If that were to happen, it's reasonable to assume it might be quite soon.

[Kryztian]

Of the four girls who witnessed the apparitions in Garabandal, the "Moscow Prophecy" came through Maria "Conchita" Gonzalez. Conchita is now 74 and lives on Long Island, although she occasionally visits Garabandal. She keeps a low profile, although she still has a secret or two left to reveal for when the time comes. There is a Facebook group about Garabandal and the administrator, Glen Hudson claims to be in touch regularly with Conchita and had this to say about the Pope's trip to Mongolia:

https://i.imgur.com/yfS5a28.png

[Bill Ryan]

No more news or comment from Carlos Caso-Rosendi (http://casorosendi.com/) (who faithfully reports all of Father Oliveria's visions), or from Father Oliveira himself. The failure of Pope Francis to land in Moscow after all seemed to stymie everything, and it seems it conceivably has to be possible that Francis canceled the visit deliberately so as not to usher in the fulfilment of the prophecy.

But now, there's this — and (if this correctly reflects the Pope's statements) my guess is that Patriarch Kirill wouldn't be specially keen any more to see him at all. Where this leaves us, I have no idea. :flower:

But I do have to say that if this apparent war-supporting rhetoric by the head of the Catholic Church is for real, this does maybe suggest the arrival of the prophesied apostasy* within the Vatican.
* apostasy: (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apostasy) 1. an act of refusing to continue to follow, obey, or recognize a religious faith. 2. abandonment of a previous loyalty.

The Pope calls for more weapons to Ukraine


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RdkUDiWV7Q

[9ideon]

That Moscow prophecy, can someone please put it down in simple writing, I cannot find it on any of the posts, I feel there might be something ye are all missing here, not sure though, need to see the verse.

[9ideon]

That Moscow prophecy, can someone please put it down in simple writing, I cannot find it on any of the posts, I feel there might be something ye are all missing here, not sure though, need to see the verse.

Thanks for the help Ya'll!


It was night and I went to celebrate the Mass on the Day of Our Lady of Lourdes at the home of a family that I love very much. They have a little oratory there. During the consecration, while adoring Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, I had a vision. The vision was like an image coming out of the Eucharist itself. There were four sharp images.

First, I saw [Pope Francis] getting on a plane, waving to the people and smiling.

The second image was that of Red Square in Russia. I saw St Basil’s Cathedral and then I saw something similar to two stars colliding and a big explosion in the sky.

Source (https://casorosendi.com/2022/11/06/visions-prophecies-fr-oliveira/)

There is absolutely no mention of Francis landing in Moscow, not One single word of it!!!

It says that Francis is on the way back to Rome (the waving gives it away) the next see is of Moscow's Red Square. If anything it is an indication that the 2x1 stars in the sky will have something to do with Russia (if at all), that's all.


The third image was the wake of the Pope Emeritus. There were few people around him and a lot of sadness.

The fourth image was of [Pope Francis] walking alone through the streets of Rome. The street’s appearance was like a post-war setting. He made his way to St. Peter’s Square, but as he got closer, iron bars were raised in front of him. The bars were like those on ancient gates, and the iron was glowing. He tried to approach [the square] but was unable to get through the bars.

Source (https://casorosendi.com/2022/11/06/visions-prophecies-fr-oliveira/)

The last two "Quatrains" speak of Francis being in Rome, meaning it will not be a nuclear event. Going back to the lights, might very well be some Earthquake lights for instance, perhaps Moscow will be flattened with such blast that the Vatican will suffer some earthquake as result.

It's basically speculation for now, there are more prophecies about the Vatican, where the false god lives, will be flattened by some event of natural proportions.

Actually come to think of it, the two stars might indicate celebration like events.

We should look for a date in where Russia celebrates something while Francis is away travelling, India and South America next year. That remote viewing topic speaks of some event in May, May 9th is victory day and might have fireworks this time.

India is supposed to be in March 2024. India also has a town called Moscow, in Kerala District where the last visit (1986) of a Pope was before 1999. In Russia it will be International Women's Day on March 8, Women are natural stars, most Man know this, lol.

It could also be October 4th 2024 (if Francis goes to Argentina/Brasil and Uruguay in October around that time). Russia celebrates Russian Aerospace Defence Forces Day, which is the anniversary of Sputnik's launch in 1957, also called an artificial star.

In any case, no landing of Francis foreseen in Moscow at all, not One word mentioned. It indicates some event in Russia, most likely above Moscow while Francis is travelling by plane.

[Bill Ryan]

That Moscow prophecy, can someone please put it down in simple writing, I cannot find it on any of the posts, I feel there might be something ye are all missing here, not sure though, need to see the verse.Here it is: :thumbsup:


Carlos Caso-Rivendi, who has been reporting all of Father Olivera's visions to his English-speaking followers, linked to this new article yesterday. I'll copy it in full. The article was published in September 2022.

https://lifesitenews.com/blogs/prophecy-war-will-break-out-in-europe-after-pope-visits-moscow
(https://lifesitenews.com/blogs/prophecy-war-will-break-out-in-europe-after-pope-visits-moscow)
Prophecy: War will break out in Europe after Pope visits Moscow

Glenn Hudson, an expert on the apparitions of Our Lady of Garabandal, explains our Blessed Mother's warnings of conditional chastisement, Padre Pio's belief in the apparitions, and what it all means for Catholics today.

Here’s something truly fascinating: You know how this movie is coming out with Shia LaBeouf (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-padre-pio-film-starring-shia-labeouf-could-be-the-popes-worst-nightmare/) about a very famous saint in the Catholic Church called Padre Pio? Well, Padre Pio, while he was alive, he had the stigmata, the wounds of Jesus in his hands and feet and so on. But he was super well known also for his love for a particular apparition of Our Lady, the mother of Jesus, to people to explain what was coming in the world.

The prophets always foretell what’s coming in the world, and one of the most astounding things about this vision in Garabandal was about what was coming. What was coming is a possible chastisement.

But before that, also a warning to all mankind, where they will be able to see what their soul is like. And that is all predicated on what’s coming right before that: the Pope’s visit to Moscow.

Remember how Pope Francis said right before he came to Canada that he was still going to go to Canada, he’s not going to retire, and then then after that he’s going to Moscow? Check it out; it’s in the news (https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1543944789535621120).

We’re going to talk about that right now with the world’s foremost expert on Garabandal. In fact, not only just expert in it, but someone who is the spokesman for the last living visionary of Garabandal, Conchita González.

In this episode of The John-Henry Westen Show, you’ll hear Glenn Hudson explain our Blessed Mother’s warnings of conditional chastisement, Padre Pio’s belief in the apparitions, the prophecy about a European war after the Pope’s visit to Moscow, and what it all means for Catholics today.
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[9ideon]

That Moscow prophecy, can someone please put it down in simple writing, I cannot find it on any of the posts, I feel there might be something ye are all missing here, not sure though, need to see the verse.Here it is: :thumbsup:


Carlos Caso-Rivendi, who has been reporting all of Father Olivera's visions to his English-speaking followers, linked to this new article yesterday. I'll copy it in full. The article was published in September 2022.

https://lifesitenews.com/blogs/prophecy-war-will-break-out-in-europe-after-pope-visits-moscow
(https://lifesitenews.com/blogs/prophecy-war-will-break-out-in-europe-after-pope-visits-moscow)
Prophecy: War will break out in Europe after Pope visits Moscow

Glenn Hudson, an expert on the apparitions of Our Lady of Garabandal, explains our Blessed Mother's warnings of conditional chastisement, Padre Pio's belief in the apparitions, and what it all means for Catholics today.

Here’s something truly fascinating: You know how this movie is coming out with Shia LaBeouf (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-padre-pio-film-starring-shia-labeouf-could-be-the-popes-worst-nightmare/) about a very famous saint in the Catholic Church called Padre Pio? Well, Padre Pio, while he was alive, he had the stigmata, the wounds of Jesus in his hands and feet and so on. But he was super well known also for his love for a particular apparition of Our Lady, the mother of Jesus, to people to explain what was coming in the world.

The prophets always foretell what’s coming in the world, and one of the most astounding things about this vision in Garabandal was about what was coming. What was coming is a possible chastisement.

But before that, also a warning to all mankind, where they will be able to see what their soul is like. And that is all predicated on what’s coming right before that: the Pope’s visit to Moscow.

Remember how Pope Francis said right before he came to Canada that he was still going to go to Canada, he’s not going to retire, and then then after that he’s going to Moscow? Check it out; it’s in the news (https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1543944789535621120).

We’re going to talk about that right now with the world’s foremost expert on Garabandal. In fact, not only just expert in it, but someone who is the spokesman for the last living visionary of Garabandal, Conchita González.

In this episode of The John-Henry Westen Show, you’ll hear Glenn Hudson explain our Blessed Mother’s warnings of conditional chastisement, Padre Pio’s belief in the apparitions, the prophecy about a European war after the Pope’s visit to Moscow, and what it all means for Catholics today.


Bill, thanks for the vid. Was more interested in the original verses, though, lol.

See the post above yours, no mentioning of the Pope landing in Moscow, not one single word. Logic dictates that there will be a combo of a visit and some event to do with Moscow, makes way more sense.

The travel itinerary shows two trips, one to South America and one for India in 2024, no trips abroad for this year planned anymore, not one mentioning for Canada either, he's been there in 2022 already, the text seems outdated.

It is (travel plans Francis) neatly combined (itinerary) on a Wiki page here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pastoral_visits_of_Pope_Francis).

Read the verses in the source link given in my post (the one above yours, there's way more in there, better to take it straight from the literal words.)

[9ideon]

That Moscow prophecy, can someone please put it down in simple writing, I cannot find it on any of the posts, I feel there might be something ye are all missing here, not sure though, need to see the verse.

Thanks for the help Ya'll!


It was night and I went to celebrate the Mass on the Day of Our Lady of Lourdes at the home of a family that I love very much. They have a little oratory there. During the consecration, while adoring Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, I had a vision. The vision was like an image coming out of the Eucharist itself. There were four sharp images.

First, I saw [Pope Francis] getting on a plane, waving to the people and smiling.

The second image was that of Red Square in Russia. I saw St Basil’s Cathedral and then I saw something similar to two stars colliding and a big explosion in the sky.

Source (https://casorosendi.com/2022/11/06/visions-prophecies-fr-oliveira/)

There is absolutely no mention of Francis landing in Moscow, not One single word of it!!!

It says that Francis is on the way back to Rome (the waving gives it away) the next see is of Moscow's Red Square. If anything it is an indication that the 2x1 stars in the sky will have something to do with Russia (if at all), that's all.


The third image was the wake of the Pope Emeritus. There were few people around him and a lot of sadness.

The fourth image was of [Pope Francis] walking alone through the streets of Rome. The street’s appearance was like a post-war setting. He made his way to St. Peter’s Square, but as he got closer, iron bars were raised in front of him. The bars were like those on ancient gates, and the iron was glowing. He tried to approach [the square] but was unable to get through the bars.

Source (https://casorosendi.com/2022/11/06/visions-prophecies-fr-oliveira/)

The last two "Quatrains" speak of Francis being in Rome, meaning it will not be a nuclear event. Going back to the lights, might very well be some Earthquake lights for instance, perhaps Moscow will be flattened with such blast that the Vatican will suffer some earthquake as result.

It's basically speculation for now, there are more prophecies about the Vatican, where the false god lives, will be flattened by some event of natural proportions.

Actually come to think of it, the two stars might indicate celebration like events.

We should look for a date in where Russia celebrates something while Francis is away travelling, India and South America next year. That remote viewing topic speaks of some event in May, May 9th is victory day and might have fireworks this time.

India is supposed to be in March 2024. India also has a town called Moscow, in Kerala District where the last visit (1986) of a Pope was before 1999. In Russia it will be International Women's Day on March 8, Women are natural stars, most Man know this, lol.

It could also be October 4th 2024 (if Francis goes to Argentina/Brasil and Uruguay in October around that time). Russia celebrates Russian Aerospace Defence Forces Day, which is the anniversary of Sputnik's launch in 1957, also called an artificial star.

In any case, no landing of Francis foreseen in Moscow at all, not One word mentioned. It indicates some event in Russia, most likely above Moscow while Francis is travelling by plane.

Addendum:

There could be an event in where Campi Flegrei, an Italian Supervolcano near/in Napoli goes boom. In that case


The devastation locally would, of course, be rather epic. Parts of southern Italy, certainly the city of Naples, would simply cease to exist.

Prevailing winds are not a factor, as a volcano of this size will create its own ‘wind’ and the ash will spread fairly evenly for a good 1000+km, before global winds will start to shape the dispersal. The average thickness of the ash layer would be approx 2 meters around 1000km away.

To complicate things, the caldera is also partially submarine, which means very large volumes of salt water could vaporize as well, mixing with sulphur and molten minerals to create unusually large amounts of acidic substances. It would be a much more chemically toxic event than, for example, Yellowstone.

Ultimately a lot of the damage caused can be cleaned up and fixed. Only the immediate areas around the volcano would simply be ‘wiped’ with no feasible means to re-build. Assuming there is anybody around to fix it.

Europe would likely become the major source of refugees globally; especially the Balkans are likely to emigrate more due to significantly lower infrastructural development making any clean up likely to take far too long in order to allow survival.

The event would displace at leas 100 million Europeans and probably kills most of the animals in due course due to collapsed food chains. It would also acidify the sea, so it will decimate what is left of the marine life too.

Credit: Steffen Scheibler



It could very well be coming together (Something in Moscow, Francis on the lam, Vatican City covered in volcanic rocks and ash), it could also create at least 3 days of darkness in some places as well (some 1000 km wide)

Guess would throw this in for consideration.

Ohh, and it's rumbling (2016) (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/supervolcano-campi-flegrei-stirs-under-naples-italy) current article, here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/09/parts-of-italian-volcano-stretched-nearly-to-breaking-point-study-finds). Did I mention the 4.2 quake (https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/campi-flegrei/news/221949/Campi-Flegrei-volcano-Italy-seismic-crisis-resulted-in-M-42-quake-yesterday-uplift-has-reached-15-mm.html)couple hours ago>? Still, the experts can't see some eruption happening soon, can't say I trust 'm to tell the truth even if they would think it'll erupt, mass hysteria and so on.

Let's see what the future brings us I guess.

[Tintin]

Ohh, and it's rumbling (2016) (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/supervolcano-campi-flegrei-stirs-under-naples-italy) current article, here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/09/parts-of-italian-volcano-stretched-nearly-to-breaking-point-study-finds). Did I mention the 4.2 quake (https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/campi-flegrei/news/221949/Campi-Flegrei-volcano-Italy-seismic-crisis-resulted-in-M-42-quake-yesterday-uplift-has-reached-15-mm.html)couple hours ago>? Still, the experts can't see some eruption happening soon, can't say I trust 'm to tell the truth even if they would think it'll erupt, mass hysteria and so on.

Let's see what the future brings us I guess.

Campi Flegrei: Yes, also mentioned back here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121036-The-Visions-of-Father-Oliveira&p=1574387&viewfull=1#post1574387)

[Szymon]

Ohh, and it's rumbling (2016) (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/supervolcano-campi-flegrei-stirs-under-naples-italy) current article, here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/09/parts-of-italian-volcano-stretched-nearly-to-breaking-point-study-finds). Did I mention the 4.2 quake (https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/campi-flegrei/news/221949/Campi-Flegrei-volcano-Italy-seismic-crisis-resulted-in-M-42-quake-yesterday-uplift-has-reached-15-mm.html)couple hours ago>? Still, the experts can't see some eruption happening soon, can't say I trust 'm to tell the truth even if they would think it'll erupt, mass hysteria and so on.

Let's see what the future brings us I guess.

Campi Flegrei: Yes, also mentioned back here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121036-The-Visions-of-Father-Oliveira&p=1574387&viewfull=1#post1574387)

Speaking of earthquakes. The Crypto Viewing group did a future forecast for June 2023 and Daz saw this vision. I don't think this event has happened yet, and it looked like a scene of Mount Doom from Lord of the Rings. A big natural event.

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Szymon

[Kryztian]

So the Prophecy of the Popes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110377-900-year-old-prediction-of-Popes-coming-to-an-end-NOW&highlight=prophesy+popes) also figures into the Garabandal Apparitions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garabandal_apparitions). From Glenn Hudson, Conchita's "spokesperson"


Pope John Paul I died today on September 28,1978.
(only 33 days after being installed as Pontiff).
Now I mention this with good reason. His passing actually caused one of the prophecy misunderstandings. When Conchita said there would be "3 more popes, until " the end of the times" she (and Mary )were not counting Pope John Paul I because of his short reign. Albrecht Weber, the author of the book “The Finger of God“, had become involved in Garabandal in 1963 and became friendly with Conchita. On November 14, 1965, the day after the last apparition of Our Lady in Garabandal, Mr. Weber interviewed Conchita at her home in the presence of her mother. There was also present with Mr. Weber an interpreter. During that interview, it came out that when Conchita had spoken, on the very day that Pope John XXIII died, of “Three more Popes and then would come "the end of the times,” (NOT the end of all time ) her mother had asked her several questions. In response to one of her mother’s questions, Conchita responded that Our Lady had actually said that there would be FOUR MORE POPES but that She was not counting one of them. When Conchita’s mother heard that she strictly forbade Conchita to repeat that again as her mother feared there would be erroneous interpretations and much gossip. People might wrongly believe that one of the Popes might be false or bad, etc. During that conversation with her mother, Conchita also said that Our Lady had told her that one of the Popes would have a very short reign. The 4 popes are Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II, Benedict XVI .

[Bill Ryan]

Just posted by Houman on his own thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=1579452&viewfull=1#post1579452), and immediately copied here: :thumbsup:




Interview with Emissary of Fr. Oliveira: October and the Fate of Pope Francis with Lucas Gelásio!
Exclusive Interview with Emissary of Brazilian Mystic Fr. Oliveira. Lucas Gelasio breaks down the latest updates regarding October, the pope, and the Great Tribulation. This is an interview translated from Portuguese.On the coming October marking a gradual start of the "7 years of tribulations"

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[Szymon]

Just posted by Houman on his own thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=1579452&viewfull=1#post1579452), and immediately copied here: :thumbsup:




Interview with Emissary of Fr. Oliveira: October and the Fate of Pope Francis with Lucas Gelásio!
Exclusive Interview with Emissary of Brazilian Mystic Fr. Oliveira. Lucas Gelasio breaks down the latest updates regarding October, the pope, and the Great Tribulation. This is an interview translated from Portuguese.On the coming October marking a gradual start of the "7 years of tribulations"

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Attached is the translated document of the entire video.

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Cheers,
Szymon

[syrwong]

As if they wanted to announce the coming of the seven years of tribulation, TPTB, Hong Kong Branch managed to produce seven winners of horses of number 7 in the first two race meetings in October, the first on Oct 1st. A very good choice because there is always horse racing on the 1st of October, which is also the National day of China. There were 5 winners of horse number 7 in the first 6 races, 7 7 7 7 X 7. In the second meeting, there were 2 no.7 winners, the last managed to win only because the jockey of the 2nd horse lowered his arms in the last strides and was heavily penalized.

I suspect all coincidences. This one of 5 or more 7s in 10 races with fields of about 12 is about 1 in 10 thousands.

[Bill Ryan]

This is now October 13, the anniversary of both the most significant of the Fatima apparitions and those of Akita, Japan.

Father Oliveira several months ago reported he had been told that on that day the Virgin Mary would “give a sign” to Father Oliveira personally, to the world, or both. There's been no news yet, but of course if something seems to occur it could be most interesting.

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[Kryztian]

This is now October 13, the anniversary of both the most significant of the Fatima apparitions and those of Akita, Japan.



... and there was this at Garabandal, Spain, on October 13, 1961


At Garabandal, on this "October 13," there occurred a mysterious cosmic phenomenon, the only one of which the Blessed Virgin refused to explain the nature or the reason, to the girls! Conchita and Loli, in ecstasy, saw, as it were, a dazzling star, not a comet, "nothing of that kind," said Don Valentin, who, at least in part, had witnessed the event, as had other people there. Kind of a preview of the prophetic worldwide AVISO?
--- Excerpted from 'Garabandal' Book, J. Serre,page 107



:stars: :stars: :stars:

[Bill Ryan]

This is rather off-topic on this thread, but it seemed pertinent considering the recent (deserved!) publicity about the seemingly unChristian stance of Pope Francis, which has created a great deal of upset and criticism among devout Catholics. (We may need a new thread for this if it continues)

https://t.me/llordofwar/218177

The text:
The Pope asked leader Kim Jong-un for an invitation to visit North Korea, and the Korean leader replies: you are not welcome on our territory, you talk about Ukraine and condemn Russia, but you cannot condemn Israeli atrocities in Gaza, you do not condemned America's invasion of Iraq. You are not welcome in our country.

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[Kryztian]

Mary Loli is one of the children who experienced the Garabandal apparition in the 1960s.


More questions from Mary Loli’s October 19,1982 interview.

Q. Did the Blessed Mother ever say anything about the Holy Father having to leave Rome at the time of the Warning?

A. No, but what it looked like to me — maybe at this time I was confusing in my mind what I was seeing and what the Blessed Mother was saying to me because it's been so many years — but what it looked like to me was that the Pope couldn't be in Rome either, you know what I mean, out in the open. He was being persecuted, too, and had to hide just like everybody else.

Q. You said that when the Warning comes, the planes would stop in the air and that all engines would stop. Is this what the Blessed Mother told you?
A. She said that everything, everywhere, for a moment would stop and the people would just think and look inside themselves.

Q. Will there be any noise with the Warning like a wind blowing?
A. The way I saw it at the time, it was more like a big silence, like a sense of emptiness. Everything was very silent. That's the way I saw it.

Q. Seven years ago you said that the Warning was soon. Many people thought that it would have happened by now. What would you say today?
A. It is soon. Everything looks soon to me because time goes by so fast.

Q. You're the only one who knows the year of the Warning. Did you ever tell it to anyone else, like a priest for example?
A. No.

GARABANDAL MAGAZINE (1982) REPRINTED From Garabandal Interational Magazine October-December 2004

[Applesprig]

Wasn't the Middle East war on Oct 7th 2023 the beginning of the tribulations that Father Oliveira foretold ???

[Hamish]

Hello,

This is probably going to be a rough comparison between Last Days and Father O as i try and pick what I think are the main points.

This thread popped back into my mind after the Trump shooting and the this video from Youtuber "Last Days" who approx 3 months before the shooting, described witnessing what happened to Trump and the details to me, seemed close enogh to warrant a raised eyebrow. This is the video in question:
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This led me to consider the other information which Last Days claims to have forseen which was shared with him by Jesus in various videos such as:
What the Lord showed me in tribulation
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and:
Things I’m praying about right now the warnings the Lord is showing me today
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What stood out to me, is that Last Days claims to have been shown that before judgement that those who stand with christ and children, will be removed from the Earth which will be a great shock, all those who paid money to pastors etc, and who have not been taken will be angry to the extend there will be hostiltes.

Now we have the seen from Father O, who says hen I saw many priests and bishops taking off their priestly clothes. At this moment I felt great sadness.

Given the amount of allegations the Church has faced & surived, I do wonder what could cause such a scene and one that seems world wide. If I wake up and find myself still here with, all the "good" ones gone, and leaving me alone with the wolves, seeing pope/priest, still here, WHY/ DO YOU NOT WORSHIP OR BELIEVE in christ? Then yes, i could see the whole church system collapse quite easily.

We know from Father O that USA takes some kind of hit, could be military and ecomy and or could be both are more and this seems to be happening all accross the world.

Last Days claims not longer after Trump is in office, he will be faced with a masssive encomic crisis, which makes me wonder, is this the time fiancials markets ditch the dollar for BRICS.

Last Days claims during this period, USA is too busy with itself, trying to recover. This leads to allies feeling abdoned. I think it be very difficult for some to think that USA may stop being the world power force thay have and still appear to have. But when we hear what Trump has to take say about Ukraine/Nato & his new VP JD Vance seems against funding wars around the globe and made comment that he does not like how Europe is getting rid of resources and fighting wars, and expecting USA to foot the bill/resources.

So if Trump/Vance government faces a Military/Ecomic crises which engulfs the world and stretches America resources to the limit/beyond limits deeling with internal strife and wars at home and abroad, they will have to be very picky at what wars they will fight or fund leaving many disappointed or feeling abandoned.

There is more i could highlight but what are your thoughts? Any raised eye brows about what Last Days says when considering what Father O as said?

[Bill Ryan]

Copying the first part of Houman's post on his thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=1638591&viewfull=1#post1638591), specifically about an important recent prophecy from Father Oliveira.

I've not listened to this yet, but it seems clear that regarding the period of tribulation that he predicted would begin "in October of this year", he was referring to October 2023.

As we all know, that's when Israeli military forces (instructed by the Israeli War Cabinet) began the psychopathic bloodthirsty rampage which has far from ended, and which might yet bring on something even worse.

~~~

Lucas Gelásio Presents Latest Prophetic News From Brazilian Priest Fr. Oliveira!
Famous Brazilian Mariologist joins us to breakdown the latest prophecies and news from mystic priest Fr Oliveira of Brazil. Fr. Oliveira's last public prophecy was the following:
Message of Our Lady to Padre “Oliveira” on June 17, 2023:
Beloved son, listen carefully: In October of this year, a period of great tribulation will begin, which I predicted when I was in France, Portugal and Spain. [1] On these three occasions, I spoke about the cause of these tribulations.

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Fr. “Oliveira” – Great Tribulations Beginning in October?

Fr. “Oliveira” of Rio Grande do Sul in Southern Brazil has allegedly been receiving messages and visions from God for several years. Oliveira is not his real name; he chooses to remain anonymous. His fame seemed to spread into the English world after a March 12, 2020 vision of the death of Benedict XIV, to take place in 2022, came to pass. Benedict died on December 31, 2022.

Newer alleged messages of Fr. Oliveira are very detailed and likewise propose timelines, and so we urge readers to continue to exercise caution and proper discernment (see Prophecy in Perspective), given the sometimes conditional nature of prophecy and, of course, the question of validity that remains open. A 24-page Portuguese-language (PDF) document including details of Fr. “Oliveira”‘s alleged messages and visions between 2003 and 2022 is available on the internet and seems not to contain any obvious theological errors or clearly failed prophecies. His official spokesperson responsible for diffusing his messages is the Brazilian Lucas Gelasio, who has said that Fr. Oliveira’s locutions will very soon come to an end and that he will be assigned to a new mission.

Since Fr. Oliveira remains anonymous, we are unable to offer any further information on whether there is accompanying mystical phenomena, such as the stigmata, ecstasies, etc. which although not definitive in proving the authenticity of alleged messages, can aid in their overall discernment.

Message of Our Lady to Padre “Oliveira” on June 17, 2023:

Beloved son, listen carefully: In October of this year, a period of great tribulation will begin, which I predicted when I was in France, Portugal and Spain. [1] On these three occasions, I spoke about the cause of these tribulations.

(PASSAGE OMITTED)

Be prepared, above all spiritually, because this period will not come with a bang, but will be gradual and will spread slowly throughout the world. The war that has started will increase, as you have already seen. [2] There will be droughts, great storms and earthquakes in many places of the world. But as my Divine Son said, when you hear these rumors [3], do not be afraid! Always use the Miraculous Medal from today on, and distribute the medal to your flock as well. Sickness will not be the only evil that will spread; spiritual evil will be worse. Sickness will however be a great scourge. Put the medal of Saint Benedict on the door, and do not forget to use the scapular. Bless candles, oil, and water. Have no more doubts about the Oil of the Good Samaritan: [4] bless it and use it. Seek to remain in a state of grace, because the demons have set upon humanity with strong temptations, especially against priests. Pray for them and pray for yourself too, as you are a priest. Always remember who you are! Pray also for your bishop and for all bishops. Pray much for the Holy Father: make fasts and sacrifices for him. I, your Mother and Queen, will be with all those who entrust themselves to my care, and I will not leave any of my children helpless. As I have promised many times, this time is part of what I said in my Third Secret in Portugal.

(PASSAGE OMITTED).

On October 13, I will give you a sign as you asked me to do; that is why I have shown you this date. [5] I have received from God the mission to guard, together with the holy angels that the Lord has placed at my service, all those who have entrusted their lives to me. There will be great devastation from Russia, instigated by the infernal Dragon. This will harm the whole world. But do not fear. This is the opportune time for holiness. Remember that the great saints rose up in times of great darkness. Times of tribulation, especially this one, should not be faced with fear and cowardice, but with love and courage. You see, my son, this is why I have called you in this hour, so that you would remember and proclaim that the opportune time for holiness is now, today — not tomorrow, but now.

Eucharistic adoration should be your anchor, and the Holy Rosary the chain of that anchor. Eucharistic adoration, acts of reparation and sacrifices, united with the Holy Rosary, can change all prophecies! Do not forget this: Adoration and the Holy Rosary. Do penance, offer sacrifices for the salvation of souls, for the conversion of sinners and the sanctification of the clergy. Remember that the Lord knows everything and is in command of everything. Soon there will come the Triumph of my Immaculate Heart! Remain faithful in this time of purification; trust in the help of your Guardian Angel. The time for the saints is now. Pray, dear son, pray and watch, as I have called you today — pray and watch.

Finally, Our Lady gave us the passage from Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 18:7-14 on which to meditate:

When mortals finish, they are only beginning, and when they stop they are still bewildered. What are mortals? What are they worth? What is good in them, and what is evil? The number of their days seems great if it reaches a hundred years. Like a drop of water from the sea and a grain of sand, so are these few years among the days of eternity. That is why the Lord is patient with them and pours out his mercy on them. He sees and understands that their death is wretched, and so he forgives them all the more. Their compassion is for their neighbor, but the Lord’s compassion reaches all flesh, reproving, admonishing, teaching, and turning them back, as a shepherd his flock. He has compassion on those who accept His discipline, who are eager for His precepts.

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[Kryztian]

This is the website of the translator of Father Olivera's writing, Carlos Caso-Rosendi.


https://casorosendi.com/2023/02/24/new-revelations-from-fr-oliveira



Looks like that website has been taken down. There were posts from Fr. Olivera dating back at least to 2014 that I found. Let me guess someone in the Roman Catholic hierarchy said it had to go, and their will was done.

The web address now forwards to quodscripsi.com and there is only one page that mentions Fr. Olivera: https://quodscripsi.com/2022/11/08/prudence-and-private-prophecy/ It has links on that page, but those links are now broken.

I believe the Wayback Machine (archive.org) had most of his posts copied but right now that part of the site is not functioning.

There are definitely some people in the Vatican who do not like all these "messages from Mary" that keep popping up.

[Kryztian]

I did find a more recent update from the seer who uses the pseudonym "Fr. Oliveira" here: https://www.lucasgelasio.com/post/a-declara%C3%A7%C3%A3o-que-dar%C3%A1-in%C3%ADcio-%C3%A0-guerra

From google translate:

The declaration that will start the war (June and July/2024)

On June 22 of this year, Father Oliveira shared with me that, for months, he has had a strong intuition that the next great war will begin after a declaration by France. Without me having shared the information with anyone, I was told, on the same day, at an event in São Paulo, that a Canadian priest had just prophesied practically the same thing: that France will declare war on Russia and this will start the Third World War.

I then commented on this with the Nun from the Northeast, because, in August of last year, she had received a revelation from Our Lord saying that the start of the third great war would come after an explosion in Poland. That prophecy had been announced as follows:


“In the city of Sol, in Poland, a dangerous device will explode. This will lead other nations to enter the war. Some, because they will be hit; others, to fight for their allies.”

On July 1st, while she was adoring the Blessed Sacrament, the nun prayed and meditated on the beginning of the conflict, asking the Lord to show her His truth. Like a breath, a phrase came to her mind that, according to her, did not seem like a voice, but a memory:


“In the past, France also declared war after the invasion of Poland.”

She then checked the information and, in fact, the episode had occurred on September 3rd, 1939, at the beginning of World War II. This caught her attention, because Father Oliveira had also told her about an intuition that the conflicts would increase in September or, at the latest, October.

The next day, during Mass, the nun felt especially touched by the verse that said:


“For the Lord God will do nothing, but he reveals the plan to his servants the prophets.” (Amos 3:7)

Two days later, on July 4, while he was praying, his angel told him:


“Poland is the last barrier. If it falls, the prophecy that Russia will march on Europe will be fulfilled.”

This phrase refers to a prophecy by Blessed Elena Aiello (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Aiello).

It seems to me, therefore, that there are elements of the Third War that will be repetitions of the Second, as if God were showing us that we continue to make the same mistakes and, therefore, deserve the same punishments.

Let us pray for peace in the world and for the conversion of nations, because the time for the fulfillment of the prophecies has come.

[Tintin]

“In the city of Sol, in Poland, a dangerous device will explode. This will lead other nations to enter the war. Some, because they will be hit; others, to fight for their allies.”


“Poland is the last barrier. If it falls, the prophecy that Russia will march on Europe will be fulfilled.”


It seems to me, therefore, that there are elements of the Third War that will be repetitions of the Second, as if God were showing us that we continue to make the same mistakes and, therefore, deserve the same punishments.

Let us pray for peace in the world and for the conversion of nations, because the time for the fulfillment of the prophecies has come.

Okay, I had to do a search on Sól: it is a village in the Silesian Voivodeship, southern Poland. The Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B3l,_Silesian_Voivodeship) describes it, thus:


Sól [sul] (literally salt) is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Rajcza, within Żywiec County, Silesian Voivodeship, in southern Poland, close to the border with Slovakia.[2] It lies approximately 6 kilometres (4 mi) south-west of Rajcza, 26 km (16 mi) south-west of Żywiec, and 85 km (53 mi) south of the regional capital Katowice.

Population: 1,573

What?!!

Unless there's an underground facility in the vicinity of the village that few are supposed to know about, this is all highly unlikely.

I must confess that I'm not fully trusting the information being provided here, or perhaps better expressed as: the interpretations seem to be all wrong (?). And the projection of early-to-mid 20th century folly to the current geopolitics is really not quite accurate, and suggests, to me at least, bearing in mind the current geopolitics, that there's no likelihood at all that Russia are going to march on Poland. (Is this a Monty Python sketch?)

The interpretations seem wildly off to me. In fact they have all the hallmarks of someone naively imprinting their biases based on - perhaps - little or scant real understanding of current geopolitical events.

I can't claim to know, for certain of course; who of us can, really. But, this all really feels as if this individual is running a VHS cassette of the "World at War" multi-hour documentary series that aired on TV, well, decades ago and running it on repeat: it's unreliable, at best.

I'm all for 'peace' of course ( :flower: ) but not at any cost. If a part of the process toward that is the eradication of Luciferian, Ahrimanic, Sorathic ( = Zionist) meddling in the affairs of humanity through military means as well as concentrated spiritual efforts, then, "Slava Rossiya!"

It's a start.

[Rizotto]

“In the city of Sol, in Poland, a dangerous device will explode. This will lead other nations to enter the war. Some, because they will be hit; others, to fight for their allies.”


“Poland is the last barrier. If it falls, the prophecy that Russia will march on Europe will be fulfilled.”


It seems to me, therefore, that there are elements of the Third War that will be repetitions of the Second, as if God were showing us that we continue to make the same mistakes and, therefore, deserve the same punishments.

Let us pray for peace in the world and for the conversion of nations, because the time for the fulfillment of the prophecies has come.

Okay, I had to do a search on Sól: it is a village in the Silesian Voivodeship, southern Poland. The Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B3l,_Silesian_Voivodeship) describes it, thus:


Sól [sul] (literally salt) is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Rajcza, within Żywiec County, Silesian Voivodeship, in southern Poland, close to the border with Slovakia.[2] It lies approximately 6 kilometres (4 mi) south-west of Rajcza, 26 km (16 mi) south-west of Żywiec, and 85 km (53 mi) south of the regional capital Katowice.

Population: 1,573

What?!!

Unless there's an underground facility in the vicinity of the village that few are supposed to know about, this is all highly unlikely.

I must confess that I'm not fully trusting the information being provided here, or perhaps better expressed as: the interpretations seem to be all wrong (?). And the projection of early-to-mid 20th century folly to the current geopolitics is really not quite accurate, and suggests, to me at least, bearing in mind the current geopolitics, that there's no likelihood at all that Russia are going to march on Poland. (Is this a Monty Python sketch?)

The interpretations seem wildly off to me. In fact they have all the hallmarks of someone naively imprinting their biases based on - perhaps - little or scant real understanding of current geopolitical events.

I can't claim to know, for certain of course; who of us can, really. But, this all really feels as if this individual is running a VHS cassette of the "World at War" multi-hour documentary series that aired on TV, well, decades ago and running it on repeat: it's unreliable, at best.

I'm all for 'peace' of course ( :flower: ) but not at any cost. If a part of the process toward that is the eradication of Luciferian, Ahrimanic, Sorathic ( = Zionist) meddling in the affairs of humanity through military means as well as concentrated spiritual efforts, then, "Slava Rossiya!"

It's a start.

I second that, Tintin!

Furthermore, events for the past year show that Israel is most likely to instigate major wars. So, how is it that the most belligerent & genocidal state of Israel is apparently left out of these prophecies of world war? Makes me wonder if the catholic slant of the above prophecies is akin to the 'zionist christians' beliefs that forbid any criticism of Jews or Israel because they're god's 'chosen people'.

[Bill Ryan]

I did find a more recent update from the seer who uses the pseudonym "Fr. Oliveira" here: https://www.lucasgelasio.com/post/a-declara%C3%A7%C3%A3o-que-dar%C3%A1-in%C3%ADcio-%C3%A0-guerra

From google translate:

The declaration that will start the war (June and July/2024)

On June 22 of this year, Father Oliveira shared with me that, for months, he has had a strong intuition that the next great war will begin after a declaration by France. Without me having shared the information with anyone, I was told, on the same day, at an event in São Paulo, that a Canadian priest had just prophesied practically the same thing: that France will declare war on Russia and this will start the Third World War.~~~

The Canadian priest was Father Michel Rodrigue. See my 27 June post on Houman's thread:

(https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=1619869&viewfull=1#post1619869)~~~



Importantly, there's a scheduled livestream tomorrow morning (Thursday 27 June) in which a number of Catholic YouTube commentators will have the opportunity to speak with Father Michel personally in real time, and in which Father Michel may disclose more information. That's scheduled for 9 am US Eastern Standard Time.

Here's the livestream, still in progress. After the initial live setup, the broadcast begins after 3 minutes with a round of introductions. Father Michel joins in after about 24 minutes. Then after some prayers and his own introduction, he begins to reports his own recent visionary experience at about 30 minutes. The detailed message he was given, which he reads as a precise quote, starts at about 42 minutes.

Special Podcast with Xavier Reyes-Ayral and Fr. Michel Rodrigue


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvenDdmWGQ8

An addendum to the video above.

The livestream is now finished, and I confess I found it a little hard to listen to. It was lengthy (3 hrs 30 mins), and much of it took the form of what one might characterize as a Catholic sermon, with intermittent translations by Xavier into Spanish.

Father Michel was very anxious to (a) differentiate between Divine Decree (i.e. inevitable, unchangeable future events), and Prophecy (warnings that can be mitigated if the right actions are taken), and (b) wrap all the apparent bad news in hope, faith and positive intent.

He said that some of the worst things were already mitigated through prayer, but stated the following, pretty much the only parts of the livestream that one might consider to be 'hard', real-world predictions.


War will be declared, after a major event. This will happen 'in a matter of months'.
A President or a Prime Minister will be shot when he's going to a peace conference. That will be what precipitates the formal declaration of war.
However, by this time the war will actually have begun in different countries.
'Big' nuclear weapons will be deployed, not (it seems) just tactical nukes.
There will also be a 'plague' (i.e. a new pandemic). Hawthorn will be one of the practically effective home remedies.
People should have 3 months of food stored, because for many it may be impossible to go and buy anything once the war starts.
All this will in effect constitute the needed 'purification' of the world.

[Abondance]

From a very down-to-earth point of view, I do not see how hawthorn could save from a pandemic... it is absolutely not an anti-viral or an antimicrobial.
It can support the heart and nervous system but it is not a major remedy for this type of situation, better to have sarriette, thyme and oregano at hand, at least these plants contain essential oils to combat viral and bacterial attacks.

If God himself does not know better the pharmacopoeia he created, we are really screwed...

[9ideon]

That Moscow prophecy, can someone please put it down in simple writing, I cannot find it on any of the posts, I feel there might be something ye are all missing here, not sure though, need to see the verse.

Thanks for the help Ya'll!


It was night and I went to celebrate the Mass on the Day of Our Lady of Lourdes at the home of a family that I love very much. They have a little oratory there. During the consecration, while adoring Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, I had a vision. The vision was like an image coming out of the Eucharist itself. There were four sharp images.

First, I saw [Pope Francis] getting on a plane, waving to the people and smiling.

The second image was that of Red Square in Russia. I saw St Basil’s Cathedral and then I saw something similar to two stars colliding and a big explosion in the sky.

Source (https://casorosendi.com/2022/11/06/visions-prophecies-fr-oliveira/)

There is absolutely no mention of Francis landing in Moscow, not One single word of it!!!

It says that Francis is on the way back to Rome (the waving gives it away) the next see is of Moscow's Red Square. If anything it is an indication that the 2x1 stars in the sky will have something to do with Russia (if at all), that's all.


The third image was the wake of the Pope Emeritus. There were few people around him and a lot of sadness.

The fourth image was of [Pope Francis] walking alone through the streets of Rome. The street’s appearance was like a post-war setting. He made his way to St. Peter’s Square, but as he got closer, iron bars were raised in front of him. The bars were like those on ancient gates, and the iron was glowing. He tried to approach [the square] but was unable to get through the bars.

Source (https://casorosendi.com/2022/11/06/visions-prophecies-fr-oliveira/)

The last two "Quatrains" speak of Francis being in Rome, meaning it will not be a nuclear event. Going back to the lights, might very well be some Earthquake lights for instance, perhaps Moscow will be flattened with such blast that the Vatican will suffer some earthquake as result.

It's basically speculation for now, there are more prophecies about the Vatican, where the false god lives, will be flattened by some event of natural proportions.

Actually come to think of it, the two stars might indicate celebration like events.

We should look for a date in where Russia celebrates something while Francis is away travelling, India and South America next year. That remote viewing topic speaks of some event in May, May 9th is victory day and might have fireworks this time.

India is supposed to be in March 2024. India also has a town called Moscow, in Kerala District where the last visit (1986) of a Pope was before 1999. In Russia it will be International Women's Day on March 8, Women are natural stars, most Man know this, lol.

It could also be October 4th 2024 (if Francis goes to Argentina/Brasil and Uruguay in October around that time). Russia celebrates Russian Aerospace Defence Forces Day, which is the anniversary of Sputnik's launch in 1957, also called an artificial star.

In any case, no landing of Francis foreseen in Moscow at all, not One word mentioned. It indicates some event in Russia, most likely above Moscow while Francis is travelling by plane.

Addendum:

There could be an event in where Campi Flegrei, an Italian Supervolcano near/in Napoli goes boom. In that case


The devastation locally would, of course, be rather epic. Parts of southern Italy, certainly the city of Naples, would simply cease to exist.

Prevailing winds are not a factor, as a volcano of this size will create its own ‘wind’ and the ash will spread fairly evenly for a good 1000+km, before global winds will start to shape the dispersal. The average thickness of the ash layer would be approx 2 meters around 1000km away.

To complicate things, the caldera is also partially submarine, which means very large volumes of salt water could vaporize as well, mixing with sulphur and molten minerals to create unusually large amounts of acidic substances. It would be a much more chemically toxic event than, for example, Yellowstone.

Ultimately a lot of the damage caused can be cleaned up and fixed. Only the immediate areas around the volcano would simply be ‘wiped’ with no feasible means to re-build. Assuming there is anybody around to fix it.

Europe would likely become the major source of refugees globally; especially the Balkans are likely to emigrate more due to significantly lower infrastructural development making any clean up likely to take far too long in order to allow survival.

The event would displace at leas 100 million Europeans and probably kills most of the animals in due course due to collapsed food chains. It would also acidify the sea, so it will decimate what is left of the marine life too.

Credit: Steffen Scheibler



It could very well be coming together (Something in Moscow, Francis on the lam, Vatican City covered in volcanic rocks and ash), it could also create at least 3 days of darkness in some places as well (some 1000 km wide)

Guess would throw this in for consideration.

Ohh, and it's rumbling (2016) (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/supervolcano-campi-flegrei-stirs-under-naples-italy) current article, here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/09/parts-of-italian-volcano-stretched-nearly-to-breaking-point-study-finds). Did I mention the 4.2 quake (https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/campi-flegrei/news/221949/Campi-Flegrei-volcano-Italy-seismic-crisis-resulted-in-M-42-quake-yesterday-uplift-has-reached-15-mm.html)couple hours ago>? Still, the experts can't see some eruption happening soon, can't say I trust 'm to tell the truth even if they would think it'll erupt, mass hysteria and so on.

Let's see what the future brings us I guess.

***Reviving this Thread.

Pope has been replaced, the entire prophecy might be just about the Pope, not the holder of the seat, Francis, Leo etc.

Campi Flegrei seems to be going more nuts nowadays, see post on this here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119020-The-WEF-s-Human-Induced-Climate-Change-Hoax&p=1676701&viewfull=1#post1676701)

Those two stars might very well be long range missiles, it's a long shot, but German made Taurus (constellation) missiles might be seen as two stars here.

I have not been able to find any travel plans for Pope Leo at the time.

Still a very intriguing prophecy though.