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wondering
1st May 2023, 22:09
Mod note from Bill:
I've taken the liberty of copying Diane's post below from the Edward Riordan (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116416-Edward-Riordan) remote viewing thread, because I think it's important as a standalone topic that deserves some considered discussion. I do have one or two ideas about this, and I'll share them below.
:heart:
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I want to say that I don't understand our interest in predictions, which seem most often negative. We know going in that they are very unreliable, at best, so why bother? Why do we allow the accompanying anxiety to shadow us, knowing full well it is most likely not going to happen. It reminds me of young kids going to a Halloween party, turning the lights off, and agreeing to be terrified....what am I missing?
Bill Ryan
4th May 2023, 17:12
I do have one or two ideas about this, and I'll share them below.
Let me start a discussion with these three notions. :flower:
1)
Through all recorded history, people have always wanted to somehow know their future. This is probably very much hardwired into the human condition.
In Ancient Greece, The Oracle of Delphi was a celebrated phenomenon, and was greatly revered:
https://historycooperative.org/the-oracle-of-delphi
For centuries, the high priestess of the sacred temple of Apollo at Delphi assumed the role of the oracle. Many once believed that the oracle could communicate directly with Apollo, and functioned as a vessel for delivering his prophecies.
The peak period of influence of the Oracle of Delphi spanned the 6th and 4th Centuries BCE. People came from all over the ancient Greek empire and beyond to consult with the revered high priestess.
The Delphic oracle was considered the most influential source of wisdom throughout ancient Greece, for it was one of the few ways people could communicate “directly” with Greek gods. The Oracle would dictate the type of seed or grain planted, offer consultation on private matters, and dictate the day battle was waged.
The Oracle of Delphi was not the only oracle found in ancient Greek religion. In fact, they were quite commonplace and as normal as priests to the ancient Greeks. The oracles were believed to be able to communicate with the gods they served. However, the Delphic Oracle was the most famous of the Greek oracles.
The very interesting article goes on to say
The path to the sanctuary, called the Sacred Way, was lined with gifts and statues given to the oracle in return for a prophecy.
A cynic might suggest that the modern-day equivalent could be the monetized YouTube channels of tarot card readers, astrologers, clairvoyants, remote viewers, and others who claim to have knowledge of the future.
It's always been a "hook", and always will be — regardless of the ability and integrity of the reader of the future.
2)
It's possible that there's a near-unconscious collective awareness that something not-good is on its way for humanity. This is the phenomenon that Clif High refers to, a kind of low-level psychic ability that can be tapped if one considers a sample group of a sufficient number of people. (See Avalon's Clif High thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71164-Clif-High-s-videos-tweets-and-articles-the-years-of-Woo) for more on this.)
One might regard this as a kind of Morphic Field, something human-created but entirely non-physical that all humans can tap into even to a tiny extent.
3)
In my post #44 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120874-The-Third-Secret-of-Fatima&p=1555543&viewfull=1#post1555543) on the Fatima thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120874-The-Third-Secret-of-Fatima), in which I cited a new Linda Howe video (https://youtube.com/watch?v=c8mht2EQA0E) about "bad news" future events, I wrote
Linda shares how she agonized about whether even to do a program on this topic.
That was very interesting in itself, and it deserves a little more comment.
Linda was reluctant to create an entire video that seemed to be promoting bad-news future events, and maybe encouraging people to believe the narrative. What decided her mind was comparing her position to that of the post-WWII US government under Harry Truman, when faced with the then alarming Roswell ET crash events.
Most UFO researchers (self included) conclude that the reason for the secrecy ("the truth embargo", as Steve Bassett calls it) was that the public couldn't handle the truth — the 'truth' being the discovered existence of alien visitors from another world.
At that time (1947), concerns about the public reaction might well have been justified, and many researchers have shown some sympathy for Truman's unenviable position.
But since then the problem has expanded and multiplied to such a vast extent that it's entirely possible that now that same same secrecy is justified by a consideration that the 'truth' includes bad (or very scary) news for humanity, in some form.
The reality of ET existence is no big deal to people now. But who or what some of those ETs are, and what their agendas are, may not be so easy to accept.
Linda has been a longstanding advocate of UFO/ET disclosure. She wants to know the truth — whatever it is. She considers that no government UFO secrecy is justified any more, under any conceivable circumstances.
It was this comparison that decided her mind when debating whether to publish the 'bad news' information she felt she received about some kind of "Big Event" facing humanity in the near future. She didn't want to start emulating government censorship ("protecting the citizens from bad news") with the same justifications in mind.
Casey Claar
4th May 2023, 23:20
Why do we all seem to be obsessed with "bad news"?
It is an excellent question to put to the group. an excellent question. Thank you for making this a stand alone thread. Few threads get my attention these days, almost solely, or at least fundamentally for this reason. But this one did, it stood right out. I hope more of us delve the recesses of ourselves and look for the answers within ourselves. Not just about prophesy, which I feel is a subject unto itself and does not exactly equate with "bad news", but with the tendency to frame and title threads/articles/etc.. along a negative bent, often accompanied with the energy of dramatics. All this is just so shallow relative to what we could truly pull forward and work through. I wish I had more time right now to comment further, sadly I do not. So so so SO busy lately. So much happening. I certainly seem to be readying for something. ( Which brings us right back to prophesy ) . . Or.....at least the capacity to feel what is coming somewhat in advance and follow the Inner directives being put through. How many of out there, I wonder, feel we have a capacity to in some way read the field itself ( not the news, etc, the field ) and detect what may be coming? I'd lay odds there are more than a few of us.
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Part of the globalist's NWO psyop is to condition and manipulate people into a "normalized" constant state of fear and anxiety by always giving them "bad news". It doesn't even have to be real so long as the people believe it is real. Illusion -- I'd say that's where most of the globalist's power comes from.
If our thoughts form our reality, then it's really up to each one of us to decide in every moment what state of mind we want to live in.
https://www.effective-mind-control.com/images/xpessimism1.jpg.pagespeed.ic.cx_QWbK6AB.jpg
Dennis Leahy
5th May 2023, 04:40
[pondering out loud]
Hope seems like hopium; "bad news" seems like the unmasking of reality. The wider open your eyes get, the harder it is not to see life as a timeline vacillating between the mundane (with dollops of joy and excitement sprinkled in), and the next big bad event. Bad news fits the modus operandi of the ruling junta. Earth ain't The Shire, unless you disengage from the big reality to create your own myopic little reality that self-censors anything seen as negative. (Mary Poppins syndrome.)
Is there anyone here with a large pile of gold that wants to bet that there will not be some more really bad news right around the corner? Trauma creates very strong memories, so, in looking back, even if the good and the bad were actually equal in one's life, the bad stuff imprinted itself harder on the brain. So, life seems like a series of bad events, separated by time (with dollops of joy and excitement sprinkled in.)
[/pondering out loud]
pueblo
5th May 2023, 06:56
The simple answer to the question raised in the OP is that we seek out the 'bad news' because that is what is most likely to be a threat to us and our survival, no different than an animal who is being stalked by a predator always looking over it's shoulder and sniffing the wind; we seek out the 'worst news' perhaps in order to evade the consequences of that news?
Many of us have been living at some level of 'fight or flight' over the past few years and it is this condition that keeps us highly sensitised to the possibility of danger......or bad news.
This idea crosses over with Bill's "near - unconcious collective awarenesss" above.
The herd is definitely spooked!
[pondering out loud]
Hope seems like hopium; "bad news" seems like the unmasking of reality. The wider open your eyes get, the harder it is not to see life as a timeline vacillating between the mundane (with dollops of joy and excitement sprinkled in), and the next big bad event. Bad news fits the modus operandi of the ruling junta. Earth ain't The Shire, unless you disengage from the big reality to create your own myopic little reality that self-censors anything seen as negative. (Mary Poppins syndrome.)
Is there anyone here with a large pile of gold that wants to bet that there will not be some more really bad news right around the corner? Trauma creates very strong memories, so, in looking back, even if the good and the bad were actually equal in one's life, the bad stuff imprinted itself harder on the brain. So, life seems like a series of bad events, separated by time (with dollops of joy and excitement sprinkled in.)
[/pondering out loud]
Is there anyone here with a large pile of gold that wants to bet that there will not be some more really great news right around the corner? Joy, love, and gratitude creates very strong memories, so, in looking back, even if the good and the bad were actually equal in one's life, the good stuff imprinted itself harder on the brain. So, life seems like a series of good events, separated by time (with dollops of trauma and sadness sprinkled in).
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/73/aa/6173aadee5e8b4d9194780711bd8318e.jpg
Bruce G Charlton
5th May 2023, 09:27
This 'problem' IMO seems to assume rather a lot: e.g. that some kinds of information induce specific states of mind that have predictable effects on masses of people - and that these mass psychological effects tend to be self-fulfilling.
Yet none of this genuinely has a clear cause and effect relationship, and they all tend to point at the desirability of expediency of our discourse, which is a very surface-level phenomenon (to worry about the emotional effects of bad news on the mass of people seems to me a world-view almost indistinguishable from the principle of propaganda and manipulation, albeit pointing in a different direction)...
Rather than aiming (as I think we should aim) at honest discussions of reality; on the assumptions that this is our duty - and assuming too that the remote and mass psychological effects of what we personally say or write are Neither under our control Nor our responsibility.
(After all, the mass media will always twist and fabricate any statement, in pursuit of their support for the agenda of evil. What we actually say may have no relation to what They say we have-said, as I know from experience. Thus the effect of what we say is incalculable.)
However, 'truth and reality' are slippery concepts; and we get a very different idea of what they are according to our basic spiritual motivation and desires. For a materialist/ positivist - truth and reality are nihilistic denials of any ultimate purpose and meaning. But for one who believes in a divine creation and personal destinies - truth and realities are linked to purpose and meanings.
In sum - I think spiritually-orientated people who hope to help divine destiny, should (if they can!) forget about or ignore surface phenomena like 'bad news' and people feelings. The stakes are deeper than happiness or sadness, and more about hope versus despair.
And hope is deeper than current feelings, and points beyond this mortal life.
Johnnycomelately
5th May 2023, 11:42
I’m just happy that Dennis has a large enough pile of gold that he can afford some for a sketchy bet.
[pondering out loud]
Hope seems like hopium; "bad news" seems like the unmasking of reality. The wider open your eyes get, the harder it is not to see life as a timeline vacillating between the mundane (with dollops of joy and excitement sprinkled in), and the next big bad event. Bad news fits the modus operandi of the ruling junta. Earth ain't The Shire, unless you disengage from the big reality to create your own myopic little reality that self-censors anything seen as negative. (Mary Poppins syndrome.)
Is there anyone here with a large pile of gold that wants to bet that there will not be some more really bad news right around the corner? Trauma creates very strong memories, so, in looking back, even if the good and the bad were actually equal in one's life, the bad stuff imprinted itself harder on the brain. So, life seems like a series of bad events, separated by time (with dollops of joy and excitement sprinkled in.)
[/pondering out loud]
Is there anyone here with a large pile of gold that wants to bet that there will not be some more really great news right around the corner? Joy, love, and gratitude creates very strong memories, so, in looking back, even if the good and the bad were actually equal in one's life, the good stuff imprinted itself harder on the brain. So, life seems like a series of good events, separated by time (with dollops of trauma and sadness sprinkled in).
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/73/aa/6173aadee5e8b4d9194780711bd8318e.jpg
Dennis Leahy
5th May 2023, 16:04
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Is there anyone here with a large pile of gold that wants to bet that there will not be some more really great news right around the corner? Joy, love, and gratitude creates very strong memories, so, in looking back, even if the good and the bad were actually equal in one's life, the good stuff imprinted itself harder on the brain. So, life seems like a series of good events, separated by time (with dollops of trauma and sadness sprinkled in).
Pris,
I know it's fun wordplay, but do you actually think you are describing reality? It's my honest observation that trauma creates the strongest memories, and that is probably a survival mechanism the brain has evolved. I never suggested that one should deliberately wallow in negativity, but plastering on a smile and whistling "these are a few of my favorite things" isn't creating a positive reality or observing reality, it's attempting to mask reality.
I'm quite familiar with the destructive looping behavior in depression, where a negative event/thought keeps repeating itself, which recursively negatively programs the person's present and future reality. That's a lot different than recognizing that yet another bad event will unfold in the future, and to mentally be prepared for more bad events in the future. I'm not suggesting paranoia or Eyore-like wallowing in negative prediction, but rather the observation of reality.
Maybe one has to live a while (I'm 69) to make the self-observation that trauma imprints most powerfully on the brain. I have observed it in conversation with others that are also relatively long-in-tooth. I personally have an intuition that there will be enormously major positive events in the future, as well as negative, but would feel foolish to believe the fantasy that, "Whew! It's all clear sailing for the remainder of time!", and delusional to believe that my strictly positive mindset was going to dictate or create reality outside of my cranium.
Patient
5th May 2023, 18:14
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Is there anyone here with a large pile of gold that wants to bet that there will not be some more really great news right around the corner? Joy, love, and gratitude creates very strong memories, so, in looking back, even if the good and the bad were actually equal in one's life, the good stuff imprinted itself harder on the brain. So, life seems like a series of good events, separated by time (with dollops of trauma and sadness sprinkled in).
Pris (Kevin?),
I know it's fun wordplay, but do you actually think you are describing reality? It's my honest observation that trauma creates the strongest memories, and that is probably a survival mechanism the brain has evolved. I never suggested that one should deliberately wallow in negativity, but plastering on a smile and whistling "these are a few of my favorite things" isn't creating a positive reality or observing reality, it's attempting to mask reality.
I'm quite familiar with the destructive looping behavior in depression, where a negative event/thought keeps repeating itself, which recursively negatively programs the person's present and future reality. That's a lot different than recognizing that yet another bad event will unfold in the future, and to mentally be prepared for more bad events in the future. I'm not suggesting paranoia or Eyore-like wallowing in negative prediction, but rather the observation of reality.
Maybe one has to live a while (I'm 69) to make the self-observation that trauma imprints most powerfully on the brain. I have observed it in conversation with others that are also relatively long-in-tooth. I personally have an intuition that there will be enormously major positive events in the future, as well as negative, but would feel foolish to believe the fantasy that, "Whew! It's all clear sailing for the remainder of time!", and delusional to believe that my strictly positive mindset was going to dictate or create reality outside of my cranium.
I can choose to remember both happy and sad/bad times.
I am confident to say that if I relax and let my mind wander, I find myself thinking mostly about good things.
I could twist it and be upset that those good times are in the past, but that takes an extra effort.
For example; my mind often recalls when I was in much better physical shape and I could do the physical things at an extreme level. Those are happy memories and even when I consider that those days are gone I am still energized and motivated by recalling them.
I could allow myself to focus on the bad things that occurred, but that doesn't make me feel good - so I don't.
I have told my kids at times - you are responsible for how you feel. If you want to be happy and have fun, it is up to you. Enjoy yourself and enjoy what you are doing.
Bad things are going to happen that will make you sad. But that is something that you will learn something from. So, you can appreciate the fact that you learned from it and then you can do something that makes you happy.
Basically we are responsible for what we think. Yes, there is a lot of negative stuff being pushed into the media to affect us. But I can still look into things enough to know what is going on without burying myself in a lot of bad news.
Dennis Leahy
5th May 2023, 19:40
I was curious if my perception/observation that trauma imprints more powerfully in our brains than joy is a radical position, so I looked for some "mental professional" thoughts on the matter:
From a mentalhealth.net article, 7 Facts About the Brain That Incline the Mind to Joy, Rick Hanson, Ph.D., is a neuropsychologist and author of Hardwiring Happiness: The New Brain Science of Contentment, Calm, and Confidence:
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"#5 Unfortunately, the brain emphasizes negative experiences.
It’s the negative experiences that signal the greatest threats to survival. So our ancient ancestors that lived to pass on their genes paid a lot of attention to negative experiences.
Consider 80 million years or so of mammal evolution, starting with little rodent-like creatures dodging dinosaurs to stay alive and have babies in a worldwide Jurassic Park. Constantly looking over their shoulders, alert to the slightest crackle of brush, quick to freeze or bolt or attack depending on the situation. Just like any rabbit or squirrel you may have seen in the wild today. The quick and the dead.
That same circuitry is loaded and fully operational in your brain as you drive through traffic, argue with your mate, hear an odd noise in the night, or see in your mailbox an unexpected letter from the IRS.
First, the amygdala – the switchboard that assigns a feeling tone to the stimuli flowing through the brain (pleasant, unpleasant, and neutral) and directs a response (approach, avoid, move on) – is neurologically primed to label experiences as frightening and negative. In other words, it’s built to look for the bad. For example, when someone gives you feedback – a parent, friend, lover, or boss – doesn’t your mind go to the hint of criticism surrounded by praise? (Mine sure does.)Second, when an event is flagged as negative, the amygdala-hippocampus circuitry immediately stores it for future reference. Then it compares current events to the record of old painful ones, and if there are any similarities, alarm bells start ringing. Once burned, twice shy. Your brain doesn’t just go looking for what’s negative; it’s built to grab that information and never let go. (If you are interested in more information on this subject, you could look at the work of Richard Davidson and others on the limbic system, or the growing literature on trauma.)
Yes, we can notice positive experience s and remember them. But unless you’re having a million dollar moment, the brain circuitry for what’s positive is like a paper- and-pencil pad compared to a high-powered video camera plugged into a fast computer with terabyte storage for what’s negative. When you look back at night on a typical day, what do you usually reflect on: the dozens of mildly pleasant moments, or the one that was awkward or worrisome? When you look back on your life, what do you muse about: the ten thousand pleasures and accomplishments, or the handful of losses and failures?Third, the negative generally trumps the positive: A single bad event with a dog is more memorable than 1000 good times. Speaking of dogs, you may know of the studies on learned helplessness from Martin Seligman and his colleagues, which illustrate this point in haunting ways: it took only a short time to induce a sense of helplessness in the dogs, whose brain circuitry for emotional memory is very similar to our own. But it took an extraordinary effort to get them to unlearn that training. It’s as if we are predisposed to believe the worst about the world and ourselves, and to doubt the best.
...{snip} ..."
Ernie Nemeth
5th May 2023, 19:43
They say 30 % of children identify as transgender.
If that is a true statistic, where did the children get those ideas from? Who is guarding their minds, setting them straight?
They can't do it - they are just children.
And since most adults are just like grown up kids, who is guarding their minds?
We know advertising works, and that even if you know you are being brainwashed you're still gonna buy that item you saw on TV. and still going to believe what the TV tells you - even when you know better.
That's the danger - entrainment works. Even when you know it's happening you cannot stop the entrainment.
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Is there anyone here with a large pile of gold that wants to bet that there will not be some more really great news right around the corner? Joy, love, and gratitude creates very strong memories, so, in looking back, even if the good and the bad were actually equal in one's life, the good stuff imprinted itself harder on the brain. So, life seems like a series of good events, separated by time (with dollops of trauma and sadness sprinkled in).
Pris (Kevin?),
I know it's fun wordplay, but do you actually think you are describing reality? It's my honest observation that trauma creates the strongest memories, and that is probably a survival mechanism the brain has evolved. I never suggested that one should deliberately wallow in negativity, but plastering on a smile and whistling "these are a few of my favorite things" isn't creating a positive reality or observing reality, it's attempting to mask reality.
I'm quite familiar with the destructive looping behavior in depression, where a negative event/thought keeps repeating itself, which recursively negatively programs the person's present and future reality. That's a lot different than recognizing that yet another bad event will unfold in the future, and to mentally be prepared for more bad events in the future. I'm not suggesting paranoia or Eyore-like wallowing in negative prediction, but rather the observation of reality.
Maybe one has to live a while (I'm 69) to make the self-observation that trauma imprints most powerfully on the brain. I have observed it in conversation with others that are also relatively long-in-tooth. I personally have an intuition that there will be enormously major positive events in the future, as well as negative, but would feel foolish to believe the fantasy that, "Whew! It's all clear sailing for the remainder of time!", and delusional to believe that my strictly positive mindset was going to dictate or create reality outside of my cranium.
Hi Dennis, as you know, some of us like to use avatars/aliases when online. :)
I'm glad you found my wordplay fun. Yes, it's meant to be funny, and I sincerely meant it.
I think I have a pretty good (as opposed to bad lol) overall view of what's happening globally. The "good news/bad news" dichotomy is interesting and subjective.
It appears that not all of us are wired the same way. We also know that some people are more resistant to external programming. It helps to be aware of these things.
With regard to mindset, two books come to mind that I read decades ago that really impacted me: "Psycho-Cybernetics" and "Happiness Is a Choice".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M
I was curious if my perception/observation that trauma imprints more powerfully in our brains than joy is a radical position, so I looked for some "mental professional" thoughts on the matter.....
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Consider 80 million years or so of mammal evolution, starting with little rodent-like creatures dodging dinosaurs to stay alive and have babies in a worldwide Jurassic Park. Constantly looking over their shoulders, alert to the slightest crackle of brush, quick to freeze or bolt or attack depending on the situation. Just like any rabbit or squirrel you may have seen in the wild today. The quick and the dead.
Firstly, you have to believe in "mental professionals".
Secondly, you have to believe in evolution.
Dennis Leahy
6th May 2023, 03:45
I've been trying to answer Bill's question, as in the title and original post. I don't disagree with anyone saying that you can focus on what you want to focus on, but that wasn't Bill's question. Bill's observation is that many of us are focused on bad news. "Why do we all seem to be obsessed with "bad news"?" Maybe there could be another thread on "the power of positive thinking" or something like that.
"Why do we all seem to be obsessed with "bad news"?" (not, "How do we fix this?") I'd say, pueblo nailed it (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121078-Why-do-we-all-seem-to-be-obsessed-with-bad-news&p=1555730&viewfull=1#post1555730) most succinctly.
(removed name from other post. sorry.)
We know advertising works, and that even if you know you are being brainwashed you're still gonna buy that item you saw on TV. and still going to believe what the TV tells you - even when you know better.
That's the danger - entrainment works. Even when you know it's happening you cannot stop the entrainment.
Entrainment... You can jump off the train.
Watching TV is a choice.
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I've been trying to answer Bill's question, as in the title and original post. I don't disagree with anyone saying that you can focus on what you want to focus on, but that wasn't Bill's question. Bill's observation is that many of us are focused on bad news. "Why do we all seem to be obsessed with "bad news"?" Maybe there could be another thread on "the power of positive thinking" or something like that.
"Why do we all seem to be obsessed with "bad news"?" (not, "How do we fix this?") I'd say, pueblo nailed it (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121078-Why-do-we-all-seem-to-be-obsessed-with-bad-news&p=1555730&viewfull=1#post1555730) most succinctly.
It's the presumptive title, "Why do we all seem to be obsessed with "bad news"?". It's just begging to be challenged. Even though you make a good point, all this wouldn't be half as fun if we had a separate thread on "the power of positive thinking".
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What's the obsession with "bad news"? There has been a lot of conditioning -- natural and unnatural. Despite that, I would say that not everyone is obsessed with "bad news". There are even some people who know about the globalist's propaganda "bad news machine" attempting to steer reality. Once you know about it, you can learn how to avoid being "pulled in" by manufactured "bad news". It's been decades of slow buildup to where we are today.
Specific populations around the world have been targeted, manipulated, and conditioned to accept "bad news" as normal. Amazingly, so many people allow themselves to be terrorized by the very "authority" they think they should trust. This modern-day traumatic, stressful living is never allowed to be questioned and is considered "normal" while the mental and physical health and well-being of the individual is being ruthlessly attacked.
The average person doesn't even recognize that the whole thing is a con and that many of the stories on the "news" are entirely made up to suit a specific narrative/agenda. Worse yet, the average person isn't even aware that they are the main target in a gigantic militarized psychological operation designed to "break" them. The whole of society -- including education and entertainment -- has been undermined and weaponized for this purpose. This operation is meant to weaken and demoralize a nation's people in order to take down that nation by foreign interests.
Why be a pawn and play into their hands? Once you recognize that the tactics being used to terrorize, weaken and demoralize are meant to illicit a negative emotional reaction from you, you can take back control of your mind and step away from their game.
It's good to learn about predictive programming and hyperreality. These are just two of many effective tools that have been utilized to program and control the unsuspecting mind. It helps to learn about mind-control techniques like hypnosis and what causes brainwashing.
When you get enough people to believe a lie...
When you get enough people to know the truth, the lies won't work.
Ernie Nemeth
6th May 2023, 19:43
We just cancelled our TV subscription. Neither my wife nor I ever watch it.
It's become so bad, with our provider automatically adding channels that have to be cancelled after one month or they start charging for it, that the cost was rising higher every month to almost double. Turns out we had several channels added, but since neither of us turn on the TV we never noticed.
And after the umpteenth time having to call and go through the procedure of being bumped up the levels of 'customer service' to get our grievance heard, and an hour and a half again on the phone, again explaining the situation, the wife had enough and let it fly.
So no more TV.
And it's all King Charles' fault because she wanted to watch the coronation on TV.
Sue (Ayt)
7th May 2023, 04:24
It must have been a very different experience when there was little news beyond peoples' very limited range of direct experience and word of mouth.
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Bruce G Charlton
7th May 2023, 07:52
I suppose it would be fair to say that literally all "News" is bad - in the sense all major News stories in the mass media are designed to cause evil, are evil by intent.
More exactly all major stories are inversional - as I wrote in 2012 (https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2012/09/media-negativism-necessary-discipline.html):
The major output of the modern international mass media consists of only four categories:
1. Good presented as bad
2. Bad presented as Good
(That is to say simple inversion)
3. Good presented as Good for a bad reason
4. Bad presented as bad for a bad reason
(That is to say explanatory inversion)
Ernie Nemeth
19th May 2023, 16:44
We just cancelled our TV subscription. Neither my wife nor I ever watch it.
It's become so bad, with our provider automatically adding channels that have to be cancelled after one month or they start charging for it, that the cost was rising higher every month to almost double. Turns out we had several channels added, but since neither of us turn on the TV we never noticed.
And after the umpteenth time having to call and go through the procedure of being bumped up the levels of 'customer service' to get our grievance heard, and an hour and a half again on the phone, again explaining the situation, the wife had enough and let it fly.
So no more TV.
And it's all King Charles' fault because she wanted to watch the coronation on TV.
update:
Just for clarity, so it can be understood what we are up against.
My wife got us a deal with Bell after almost two hours of wrangling.
Then we got the bill.
No changes on the bill...and they found an accounting error and we now owe another $208!
Back on the phone today, my wife has to go through the whole thing again. She's still on the phone as I write, now well over two hours.
I just heard her giving her birthdate again and wondered, that after two hours on the phone, they still ask her for her proof of identity?
So now the deal has been backtracked and will be MORE expensive than before!
edit: removed rant
arwen
19th May 2023, 17:45
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What's the obsession with "bad news"? There has been a lot of conditioning -- natural and unnatural. Despite that, I would say that not everyone is obsessed with "bad news". There are even some people who know about the globalist's propaganda "bad news machine" attempting to steer reality. Once you know about it, you can learn how to avoid being "pulled in" by manufactured "bad news". It's been decades of slow buildup to where we are today.
When you get enough people to believe a lie...
When you get enough people to know the truth, the lies won't work.
Steve Biko, "I write what I like" (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Steve_Biko) 1978:
The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.
(context was referring to Apartheid South Africa and the attempt to mind program black people that they were naturally less intelligent and inferior.)
Unfortunately that was the origin of the Woke movement as well, so while it states a truth - that oppressive forces understand the power of the mind - the very truth itself can be inverted and weaponized.....
Such a complex issue. While we need to be mindful of our mind patterns and the frequencies they generate, putting heads in the sand to ignore what we all sense as a malevolent force working against us is not useful either.
I personally try to keep a balance between confronting the "bad news" and then pulling away when it gets too depressing to focus on life-affirming actions and topics. It is rather like walking a tightrope.
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What's the obsession with "bad news"? There has been a lot of conditioning -- natural and unnatural. Despite that, I would say that not everyone is obsessed with "bad news". There are even some people who know about the globalist's propaganda "bad news machine" attempting to steer reality. Once you know about it, you can learn how to avoid being "pulled in" by manufactured "bad news". It's been decades of slow buildup to where we are today.
When you get enough people to believe a lie...
When you get enough people to know the truth, the lies won't work.
Steve Biko, "I write what I like" (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Steve_Biko) 1978:
The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.
(context was referring to Apartheid South Africa and the attempt to mind program black people that they were naturally less intelligent and inferior.)
Unfortunately that was the origin of the Woke movement as well, so while it states a truth - that oppressive forces understand the power of the mind - the very truth itself can be inverted and weaponized.....
Such a complex issue. While we need to be mindful of our mind patterns and the frequencies they generate, putting heads in the sand to ignore what we all sense as a malevolent force working against us is not useful either.
I personally try to keep a balance between confronting the "bad news" and then pulling away when it gets too depressing to focus on life-affirming actions and topics. It is rather like walking a tightrope.
Yes, the "woke" (Marxist) movement... everything about it is meant to break down society. Part of that movement is to seed racism by making black people think they are permanent victims of white people and, therefore, incapable of achieving anything. Blacks are taught they are "special" and learn to embrace their perceived victimhood -- justified or not -- as the excuse to not take responsibility for their own lives, accepting their new "privileged" status and taking hand-outs instead... The "oppressed" become their own oppressor and effectively destroy themselves.
Meantime, the "fake news" continuously spins stories that appeal to the victim mentality and keeps the cycle going.
What I can't comprehend is how quickly people forget the lessons they've already learned from being targeted by mind control operations in the past. All it takes is a few decades...
norman
21st May 2023, 08:34
Yes, the "woke" (Marxist) movement...
Carl Marx wrote a poem when he was very young, in which he devoted himself to satan.
I think the poem is called 'The Fiddler', but I'm not sure.
Bill Ryan
21st May 2023, 09:54
Yes, the "woke" (Marxist) movement...
Carl Marx wrote a poem when he was very young, in which he devoted himself to satan.
I think the poem is called 'The Fiddler', but I'm not sure.
For the record, from https://marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/verse/verse4.htm:
The Fiddler:
The Fiddler saws the strings,
His light brown hair he tosses and flings.
He carries a sabre at his side,
He wears a pleated habit wide.
"Fiddler, why that frantic sound?
Why do you gaze so wildly round?
Why leaps your blood, like the surging sea?
What drives your bow so desperately?"
"Why do I fiddle? Or the wild waves roar?
That they might pound the rocky shore,
That eye be blinded, that bosom swell,
That Soul's cry carry down to Hell."
"Fiddler, with scorn you rend your heart.
A radiant God lent you your art,
To dazzle with waves of melody,
To soar to the star-dance in the sky."
"How so! I plunge, plunge without fail
My blood-black sabre into your soul.
That art God neither wants nor wists,
It leaps to the brain from Hell's black mists.
"Till heart's bewitched, till senses reel:
With Satan I have struck my deal.
He chalks the signs, beats time for me,
I play the death march fast and free.
"I must play dark, I must play light,
Till bowstrings break my heart outright."
The Fiddler saws the strings,
His light brown hair he tosses and flings.
He carries a sabre at his side,
He wears a pleated habit wide.
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Carl Marx wrote a poem when he was very young, in which he devoted himself to satan.
I think the poem is called 'The Fiddler', but I'm not sure.
For the record, from https://marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/verse/verse4.htm:
The Fiddler:
The Fiddler saws the strings,
His light brown hair he tosses and flings.
He carries a sabre at his side,
He wears a pleated habit wide.
"Fiddler, why that frantic sound?
Why do you gaze so wildly round?
Why leaps your blood, like the surging sea?
What drives your bow so desperately?"
"Why do I fiddle? Or the wild waves roar?
That they might pound the rocky shore,
That eye be blinded, that bosom swell,
That Soul's cry carry down to Hell."
"Fiddler, with scorn you rend your heart.
A radiant God lent you your art,
To dazzle with waves of melody,
To soar to the star-dance in the sky."
"How so! I plunge, plunge without fail
My blood-black sabre into your soul.
That art God neither wants nor wists,
It leaps to the brain from Hell's black mists.
"Till heart's bewitched, till senses reel:
With Satan I have struck my deal.
He chalks the signs, beats time for me,
I play the death march fast and free.
"I must play dark, I must play light,
Till bowstrings break my heart outright."
The Fiddler saws the strings,
His light brown hair he tosses and flings.
He carries a sabre at his side,
He wears a pleated habit wide.
Poetry straight from the heart. What a wordsmith... appealing yet VERY disturbing.
To me, it sounds like a psychopath wrote this. So, I thought I'd do a search and found somebody's take on Karl Marx, read it, and thought, "That makes sense."
The article shares the Hare Psychopathy Check List which I find particularly interesting.
I think this explains why psychos push their psychopathy onto society hoping it will stick... It's like they need a reassuring societal (de)construct that allows them to make it easier to harm their unsuspecting victims while simultaneously being worshiped as saviors.
I think the last few paragraphs sum it up well:
"America is declining to the degree we have embraced statist, collectivist visions during the last eighty years. Psychopathic tendencies are common throughout the world and throughout history, but modern communications technology has made psychopathy a worldwide threat beginning in the Twentieth Century. Marxists are discredited by their own flawed philosophy, and even more by their own incompetence and corruption. Marx's economic theories are the worst nonsense, and have never worked in practice. The attraction of Marxism is not that it will eventually create a perfect system - that is propaganda for useless idiots. The attraction of Marxism is that it gives psychopaths power now, and Marxists will destroy anyone who stands in their way.
The founders of the American Republic introduced a new concept of freedom and self governance and it has achieved unparalleled success, which drives totalitarians of every stripe to distraction. Our Republic is now under threat from Corporate and Political Psychopaths who have no empathy, no conscience, no remorse, no guilt, and who are "insane without delirium," as psychopathy was once defined. Actual working people almost unanimously reject Marxism unless bought off with unearned "entitlements" or coerced as were the kulaks, five million of whom died from Soviet coercion.
Do you wonder that Marxist politicians and their allies and associates are corrupt and dishonest and keep getting richer, while the Republic and its citizens, including the poor, are getting poorer? It is because Marxist politicians and their associates are psychopaths. "
Nine years ago, quite a few people in the comments section were actually defending Marxism. I wonder what they'd say today.
Link to article:
https://www.sott.net/article/281383-Was-Karl-Marx-a-full-blown-psychopath
I think these power-seeking (Marxist) psychopaths are sexually aroused by torture, death and destruction (especially that of decency and innocence). That's why the "mainstream" news, entertainment, and education (programming) they give us is so "bad". They always project. The propaganda they feed us is meant to terrorize us into submission, corrupt us, and make us addicted for more.
onawah
24th May 2023, 16:14
In the case of psychic predictions, I am not so much influenced by the predictions themselves (they are so often wrong), but by the fact that some psychics are actually capable of seeing the future (Edgar Cayce for example), which demonstrates how little we really understand about human consciousness.
And the fact that some accurate predictions have been made hundreds, even thousands of years before the fact, which shows how little we really understand about Time, free will and predestination.
As for why some tend to become obsessed with scary predictions, it's obvious that we are living in very perilous times, so it's not surprising that so many predictions these days are scary.
But in such times, it can be more dangerous to be in denial of that than it is to be forewarned by paying attention to the possibilities of coming dangers.
If we pay attention, it's not that difficult to discern the sensationalistic, fear porn predictions from the fact-based ones that demonstrate a genuine concern, and can be helpful.
Whereas hopium can be even more dangerous to the gullible and naive, especially if they invest heavily in things that never come to fruition.
As with most things, I'd say it's a question of balance, and it's important to have an understanding of how in this dualistic reality of yin and yang, there are inevitably going to be cycles of both darkness and light.
Mod note from Bill:
I've taken the liberty of copying Diane's post below from the Edward Riordan (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116416-Edward-Riordan) remote viewing thread, because I think it's important as a standalone topic that deserves some considered discussion. I do have one or two ideas about this, and I'll share them below.
:heart:
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I want to say that I don't understand our interest in predictions, which seem most often negative. We know going in that they are very unreliable, at best, so why bother? Why do we allow the accompanying anxiety to shadow us, knowing full well it is most likely not going to happen. It reminds me of young kids going to a Halloween party, turning the lights off, and agreeing to be terrified....what am I missing?
Denise/Dizi
30th May 2023, 15:30
I don't think that people WANT to hear bad news... That is just what is so often presented to them as "News" in general... People who tune into the television are presented with almost a constant barrage of nothing but the bad things that are happening around them... Weather disasters, killings, accidents, etc. I liken it to a car crash... Most often people slow to look st the scene when passing an accident site.
I have begun to tune the main stream news off these days, as that is not the reality I am living in. I of course do pay attention to what is happening in my local area, but it serves me no useful purpose to watch endless hours of negative programs, as I feel that indeed they are "Programs" meant to evoke a feeling of danger and fear in your mind...
I don't want to have to worry about such things, if they do not impact my life on a daily basis, and choose to focus my time and attention on those things that can and may affect those around me. We can only do so much as individuals..
In short, I believe we are curious creatures, and as such want to see and experience everything in some way... To be able to say we saw this or that, to share something "New", etc... We are a very unusual species...
grapevine
8th June 2023, 05:34
I think it's a habit to be honest.
It starts fairly early - the upset of finding out your parents LIED, that there's no Father Christmas. . . It would be untrue to say that life goes downhill from that point, but it IS a milestone (was for me :() and there are several more, growing up. So then the news on TV comes as a kind of comfort as we were expecting it, maybe even attracting it. Given world events since 9/11 it would be difficult not to feel pessimistic.
I've got a book on creative writing. It's recommended that a problem is introduced early on to build tension, then a solution followed by another, larger problem or misunderstanding, and then a catastrophe from which there's no answer. You can recognise this basic plot in almost every story you read and film you see so we're continually feeding on drama and chaos.
Easier said than done but The only winning move is not to play :bigsmile:
derek
8th June 2023, 05:55
Yes, the "woke" (Marxist) movement...
Carl Marx wrote a poem when he was very young, in which he devoted himself to satan.
I think the poem is called 'The Fiddler', but I'm not sure.
For the record, from https://marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/verse/verse4.htm:
The Fiddler:
The Fiddler saws the strings,
His light brown hair he tosses and flings.
He carries a sabre at his side,
He wears a pleated habit wide.
"Fiddler, why that frantic sound?
Why do you gaze so wildly round?
Why leaps your blood, like the surging sea?
What drives your bow so desperately?"
"Why do I fiddle? Or the wild waves roar?
That they might pound the rocky shore,
That eye be blinded, that bosom swell,
That Soul's cry carry down to Hell."
"Fiddler, with scorn you rend your heart.
A radiant God lent you your art,
To dazzle with waves of melody,
To soar to the star-dance in the sky."
"How so! I plunge, plunge without fail
My blood-black sabre into your soul.
That art God neither wants nor wists,
It leaps to the brain from Hell's black mists.
"Till heart's bewitched, till senses reel:
With Satan I have struck my deal.
He chalks the signs, beats time for me,
I play the death march fast and free.
"I must play dark, I must play light,
Till bowstrings break my heart outright."
The Fiddler saws the strings,
His light brown hair he tosses and flings.
He carries a sabre at his side,
He wears a pleated habit wide.
Currently reading "The Devil and Karl Marx" by Paul Kengor. Can confirm that and much worse. Marx, without a doubt, was a practicing satanist/luciferian.
Among so many other things, one point the author doesn't seem to connect in the book, but I immediately did, was that Marx's mentor and handler was a man by the name of Bruno Bauer.
-- Amschel Moses Bauer was the man who changed his name to "red shield" (Rothschild) and became that patriarch. They share the same last name.
-- Both Bauers lived in Bavaria
-- Both were Jews
-- Both despised Christianity (Bruno Bauer was a professor who specialized in "new testament criticism"). He and Marx once rode into a town on a donkey (mocking Christ doing the same) then would go to churches and laugh/mock the service. They did this for days having endless fun
-- Both Bauer's were involved in geo-political matters and economics
-- Both had a desire for "revolution" and considered Lucifer the "original and greatest rebel"
I highly recommend the book. Well worth your time.
Matthew
8th June 2023, 07:29
I don't want to look away from the bad news in case I forget it, and then accidentally give myself a false memory that things are not as strange as they are, and then get re-surprised by the truth. All I want to do is avoid being surprised and upset by a truth nobody else wants to see so it's not something anyone will help me with. People really don't like the horrible truth. Because few people can bear to even consider what we see in front of us I feel a strong urge to share my thoughts with like minded people. The bad news doesn't look after itself, it is very difficult to see.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't stop and smell the roses, especially if this doesn't come as naturally to us as hunting the bad news does. That's my take away from this thread.
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I think it's a habit to be honest.
It starts fairly early - the upset of finding out your parents LIED, that there's no Father Christmas. . . It would be untrue to say that life goes downhill from that point, but it IS a milestone (was for me :() and there are several more, growing up.
Currently reading "The Devil and Karl Marx" by Paul Kengor. Can confirm that and much worse. Marx, without a doubt, was a practicing satanist/luciferian.
...
-- Both despised Christianity (Bruno Bauer was a professor who specialized in "new testament criticism"). He and Marx once rode into a town on a donkey (mocking Christ doing the same) then would go to churches and laugh/mock the service. They did this for days having endless fun
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-- Both had a desire for "revolution" and considered Lucifer the "original and greatest rebel"
Father Christmas is real. Santa Claus... represents a structure in the brain -- the claustrum. That's where the Christos, the sacred oil (Christ) is produced. It's sent down our spine (Bearer of Gifts comes down the chimney) and conducts electricity up and down our spine to spark Kundalini ("Snake", electrical current), out-of-body experience (soul/spirit experience), and the door to Heaven -- our pineal gland, Third Eye -- is opened.
From this perspective... Christ, Lucifer, God etc. are all made-up characters in stories meant to express complex, abstract ideas about the workings of the human body (chariot for mind/spirit).
Back in time, people were mostly illiterate. The few who could read and write explained these ideas using parables, metaphors, and allegories.
If you're interested, here's a thread I started on the subject which includes a couple of videos that explains all this in greater detail:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121242-The-Highest-Sacred-Spiritual-Knowledge&p=1560723&viewfull=1#post1560723
So, whether or not something is "good news" or "bad news" (what is "good", what is "evil") depends entirely on the individual's unique perspective, knowledge, and wiring.
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I don't want to look away from the bad news in case I forget it, and then accidentally give myself a false memory that things are not as strange as they are, and then get re-surprised by the truth. All I want to do is avoid being surprised and upset by a truth nobody else wants to see so it's not something anyone will help me with. People really don't like the horrible truth. Because few people can bear to even consider what we see in front of us I feel a strong urge to share my thoughts with like minded people. The bad news doesn't look after itself, it is very difficult to see.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't stop and smell the roses, especially if this doesn't come as naturally to us as hunting the bad news does. That's my take away from this thread.
This is why I think stopping to smell the roses needs to be the priority. If you strip everything else away, we owe it to ourselves to live life and love life to the fullest. Every soul is precious. Protect yours. Strength of mind wins this war. Be in control. Stand strong against the onslaught. Find your oasis. Cast your anchor. There's nothing those hideous psychopathic globalists want more than to break us down -- consumed by negativity and defeated by our own fear, agony, and despair.
Nowadays, I focus on seeing and recognizing Good (God) in myself and in all the physical and living physical around me, doing my best to enjoy life to the fullest. For me, that means appreciating every single moment and every "little" thing in this "space time" like stopping to smell the roses and playing with the pooch that lives across the way.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121242-The-Highest-Sacred-Spiritual-Knowledge&p=1560834&viewfull=1#post1560834
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