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EnergyGem
28th June 2023, 06:11
Introduction

In the history of the development of human science, the theory of evolution is by far the most controversial scientific hypothesis.

Not only religious circles oppose it, but also the scientific community itself is full of doubts about it. Even Darwin was timid and unsure when he proposed the theory of evolution.

In 1859, after Darwin's "Origin of Species" was published, it was quickly appreciated by Karl Marx. Marx said unabashedly: "This book can be used as a natural scientific basis for historical class struggle."

It is rather strange to say that these two originators of atheism and heresy were both born in Christian families. They also studied Christian theology when they were young, but they eventually degenerated into anti-god monsters who destroy human belief.

Why is this so?

According to a Taoist monk from Yunnan who became a monk in a monastery in Mengla, Myanmar, Darwin was actually the reincarnation of a demon king. Like Marx, he came here specifically to trouble and destroy mankind in the end of the Dharma.



Darwins Deceitful and Vain Nature

Darwin loved vanity since he was a child. In order to win the attention of others, he lied since he was a child. Darwin wrote in 'Memoirs of Darwin - Recollections of the Development of my mind & character':

"In my childhood, I made up many lies carefully, often for the purpose of exciting people. For example, once I learned from my father's Gathered many valuable fruits from the trees, hid them in the bushes, and ran desperately to spread the word that I found a bunch of stolen fruits."

Darwin said in his memoirs,

"I may also admit here that in my childhood I made up many well-thought-out lies; the causes of which were always in order to sensationalize".



The Evidence of Evolution Theory Is Untenable

Although the theory of evolution is still the cornerstone of scientific materialism and still occupies an important position in the mainstream of Western science, Darwin himself has never affirmed his theory.

Darwin acknowledged that the theory of evolution was only a hypothetical theory, and hoped that in the future, conclusive evidence would be found to confirm it. People have never stopped questioning the theory of evolution.

In 2001, the American PBS TV station claimed: "In fact, every scientist in the world believes that the theory of evolution is correct." This statement was jointly questioned by 514 scientists from the "Discovery Society" in Seattle. "Darwinists are still saying that no serious scientist doubts evolution, but here are 500 scientists who are willing to say publicly that they doubt it," said John West, deputy director of the Discovery Society's Center for Science and Culture.

New Zealand geneticist Michael Denton pointed out sharply in his book "A Theory in Crisis: Evolution": "Darwin's theory of evolution is the biggest lie of the twentieth century."

Darwin's theory of evolution believes that species are variable, and the variability of species is accomplished through random gene mutations, natural selection, and survival of the fittest. The three major pieces of evidence for the theory of evolution are comparative anatomy, paleontology, and the recurrence law of embryonic development. However, none of these three pieces of evidence is tenable.



1. Comparing Anatomical Evidence: Low-Level Logical Errors

The theory of evolution holds that "if man evolved from apes, man and ape would have many similar characteristics; because man and ape have many similar characteristics, man evolved from ape."

This is a simple logical error: the original proposition is true, the converse proposition is not necessarily true. For example, if A is B's younger brother, A is younger than B; but if A is younger than B, it cannot be concluded that A is B's younger brother.



2. Haeckel embryo reenactment scam exposed

In 1866, the German biologist Haeckel (Haeckel E.) proposed the law of recurrence, thinking that the embryonic development of higher organisms will reproduce the evolution process of the species. It has gone through different stages of evolution, such as having gills like a fish, tail like a monkey, and so on. This is a classic case of circular reasoning, using the theory of evolution to prove the theory of evolution.

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Haeckel's falsified drawing of a set of 24 embryos This group of pictures aims to show the similarity of the three stages of embryonic development of fish, salamander, turtle, chicken, pig, cow, rabbit and human, and has been widely used by the scientific community and textbooks for more than 100 years.

Haeckel’s early experience was quite similar to Darwin’s. He studied medicine according to his father’s wishes in college, but he had a soft spot for biology. Darwin published “Origin of Species” in 1859, and Haeckel completed his doctorate in zoology. Haeckel was a huge fan of Darwin.

In order to prove his hypothesis is correct, Haeckel created a shocking scandal "Haeckel Embryo Scam". He painted human embryos to look like fish, and he deliberately and fraudulently modified human and dog embryos drawn by other scientists to increase the similarities between embryos of different species and hide their differences.

In 1866, Haeckel published a set of 24 drawings of embryos in "General Biomorphology" and again in 1874 in the more widely circulated "Origin of Man", these drawings were designed to show fish, salamanders, Three stages of development of turtle, chicken, pig, cow, rabbit and human embryo. These pictures were later compiled into biology textbooks, poisoning generations of students who did not know the truth and blindly believed in the theory of evolution.

In 1997, British embryologist Richardson organized scientists from 17 units to study the embryos of 50 different vertebrates and their growth process, and carefully observed and recorded them. In August 1997, experts jointly published an amazing result in the Journal of Anatomy & Embryology: "Haeckel's Embryo" is the most "famous" scam in biology.

Haeckel not only added, deleted and tampered with the embryo's structure, and "he also deliberately changed the proportions of the various parts of the embryo to exaggerate the similarities between species. Even if the size differs by 10 times, he still draws the same size."

On September 5 of the same year, the magazine "Science" published a review article "Haeckel's Embryos: Fraud Rediscovered" affirms Chadson's findings.

In his book The Beginnings of Human Life, German human embryologist Erich Blechschmidt proves with detailed data that human fetuses all start with human structures , which undoubtedly pierced the diorama of Haeckel's embryo scam.



3. The collapse of paleontological evidence

The theory of evolution outlines a long process of life from simple to complex and natural selection for people. Evolutionary scholars have thus described an "evolutionary tree" in which organisms develop from low to high by analogy to fossils. However, more and more archaeological discoveries prove that the theory of evolution cannot justify itself at all.

In the book "Forbidden Archeology" (Forbidden Archeology) by archaeologists Kramer and Thomson (Michael A. Cremo & Richard Thompson), there are 500 conclusive cases that contradict the theory of evolution. The remains prove that human beings Civilizations did exist tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions, tens of millions or even hundreds of millions of years ago.

To give a few examples:

Darwin's theory of evolution believes that human beings appeared about 10,000 years ago, and the first living things appeared no more than 580 million years ago.


* However, in 1972, a nuclear reactor 2 billion years ago was discovered in the Republic of Gabon, Africa;

* In 1880, many exquisite stone tools were unearthed at the foot of Mount Taibo in California, USA, 55 million years ago;

* Y.Druet found some different types of metal pipes in a limestone layer in France, the age of the rock layer is 65 million years;

* In 1966, a group of iron spears were unearthed in Joyalek, Mexico, which was verified by American Geologists. The expert Dr. McIntyre identified that it was a product of 250,000 years ago;

* The archaeologist Amanta found a jawbone of a prehistoric animal in the city of Prilawa, Mexico, and there was a broken iron spear head in it. Weapons from 260,000 years ago.



4. Transitional phase missing

What makes the supporters of the theory of evolution most breathless is that on the issue of the transition from apes to humans, evolutionary scientists cannot find fossils of the transitional species "ape-like man", which has been included in the "Ten Unsolved Cases" of science.

In order to force evidence, experts began to intentionally or unintentionally create academic falsification:


* The transitional fossil between humans and apes, Homo erectus "Java Man" discovered in 1892, was confirmed to be a piece of ape skull and a human leg bone 40 feet apart;

* The ape-man fossil Australopithecus or "Lucy" discovered in 1984 It was also confirmed to be an extinct ape—Australopithecus, which has nothing to do with humans;

* In 1861 and after, paleontologists discovered six "Archaeopteryx fossils" one after another, which caused a sensation in the world and became a transitional species between birds and reptiles However, 5 of them were later identified as artificial, and the remaining 1 firmly refused any identification. The original "discoverer" confessed one of the reasons for the falsification: too much belief in the theory of evolution, so he created the most powerful evidence.



The powerful new enemy of evolution theory: modern molecular biology

Darwin's theory of evolution was born in 1859. In 1866, the Austrian Catholic monk Mendel published "Plant Hybridization Experiment", which gave birth to genetics, but his contribution was not discovered until half a century after his death. In the 1920s, the marriage of evolution theory and biogenetics formed "Neosynthetic Theory".

In the 1950s, American James Watson and the British Francis Crick used X-ray microscopy to discover the three-dimensional structure of the double helix of DNA. In 1958, Crick established the "Central Dogma of Molecular Biology", on which the theory of evolution formed "Darwinism".

"Darwinism" believes that genetic mutations on DNA are the origin of life changes, life in the process of adapting to the external living environment randomly and unconsciously decides which genetic changes survive and pass on to offspring, and which ones die out, and the mechanism of this process is simple: after a long evolution, the initial form of life is non-living matter.

The question is, what are the consequences of random genetic mutations in DNA? Is the basic unit cell that makes up life really "a simple, homogeneous, paste-like ball" as Haeckel said?



The complexity and system of unicellular flagella

Flagella is a long and thin protein molecule that grows on the surface of many unicellular organisms and some multicellular organisms. Its structure is very similar to that of an engine, including stators, rotors, main shafts, bearing bushes, linkage rods, adjustment and braking systems, etc. .

The length of the flagella is about 15,000 nanometers, and the diameter of the thickest part is about 20 nanometers. The speed of the flagella motor is on the order of 100 times per second, and the control is accurate, and it can brake and turn within a quarter of a circle.

Common bacterial flagella can run a distance of 60 to 100 times their own body length in one second, far surpassing that of a cheetah. Bacterial flagella are considered to be the most efficient and sophisticated molecular engines and nanomachines in nature, as well as one of the most complex protein machines, capable of spinning 300-2400 times per second. Due to its high complexity and system, the flagellar motor has always been a difficult point in the research of microbiology, biochemistry, biophysics and structural biology.

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Schematic diagram of flagella. How did the flagellum, which consists of about 50 parts closely fitted together, evolve? According to Darwin's theory of evolution, it cannot be explained at all.

How did flagella evolve?

According to Darwin's theory of evolution, it can't be explained at all. The flagella motor is composed of about 50 parts and about 30 kinds of protein molecules. These must be systematically combined and exist at the same time according to the specific internal mechanism in order to operate normally.

In any case, it is impossible to start from a simple structure. evolved one step at a time. Just like a Swiss watch, if it lacks any part, it cannot function normally. It can only be manufactured and installed according to strict procedures, and it cannot evolve spontaneously and randomly.



Cells: irreducibly complex factories

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Schematic diagram of cell factory operation. Inside the cell is a complex and ordered system.

The structure and operation mechanism of cells are more complex than flagella in both physical and biochemical aspects.

Under the control of DNA, tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of protein molecules can be produced inside the cell, with a total number of tens of millions. Cells divide every few minutes to an hour. This production efficiency depends on many advanced The well-developed "production lines", it is like a modern large-scale factory integrating intelligence, informationization, and digitalization.

It has workshops, production equipment, packaging offices, control centers, communication platforms, transportation systems, and waste treatment stations. Complete functions and clear division of labor subsystem.

A Ph.D. in genetics from the School of Life Sciences wrote:

"Scientists in the biological field all over the world, most of the research content is in a single cell. I don’t know if there is one percent of the things that are clear, and more of them are currently in simulation or discovering something, which is still far from complete understanding.”

The author of "Darwin's Black Box: Biochemistry's Challenge to Evolution" is Professor of Biochemistry at Lehigh University Michael Behe.

For the complex structure of cells discovered in molecular biology, Behe proposed a concept that directly challenged the theory of evolution: "Irreducible Complexity." Behe discovered that a complex system cannot be reduced, and must be highly complex from the beginning , they cannot be gradually evolved from simpler systems.



Gene mutation evolution: 10 trillion earths are needed to experiment at the same time

It is not only archaeologists, biologists, and mathematicians who overthrow the theory of evolution. In the 1950s, the American Manhattan Project engineer Stanislav Ulam believes that there is a large amount of life information in DNA, and nature cannot completely rely on random processes to generate such information.

American molecular biologist Douglas. Dr. Aix has done calculations, so that from the birth of the earth to the present, all the atoms on the earth are used to form amino acids, and all amino acids participate in random mutation permutation and combination experiments. The experiment is repeated every minute. If you want to mutate from the experiment to form a normal protein molecule you need 10 trillion earths to do experiments at the same time to achieve it. Obviously this is absolutely impossible.

Author Micahel Behe, in his new book "Darwin Devolves" believes that in most cases, genetic mutation and natural selection in Darwin's theory of evolution will only cause biological degradation, not evolution.

At the end of 1996, the American academic community, together with internationally renowned scientists, philosophers, theologians, and historians from Britain, Germany, Canada, Switzerland, and Australia, jointly held a historic conference with the theme "Mere Creation".

192 scholars attended the meeting, representing 105 famous universities and research institutions. The experts talked freely about the creation of God's wisdom, not the theory of natural selection and evolution, which can be seen from all walks of life and various fields of knowledge of human beings.



Ninety percent of modern organisms appear at the same time

In 2018, David Thaler, a scholar at the University of Basel, Switzerland, and hundreds of scientists found, after studying 100,000 species and 5 million DNA fragments, that the 7.6 billion people, 500 million sparrows or 100,000 snipe on the earth today are actually of similar genetic diversity. In other words, about 90% or more of the organisms on the earth today are actually about the same age. This directly disproves the evolutionary theory of speciation timeline.



The Cambrian Explosion

The Cambrian Explosion has been one of the major unanswered questions that has plagued evolutionary theory. The Cambrian strata suddenly showed up with numerous invertebrate fossils in more than 20 million years, while in the earlier, more ancient strata, the fossils were not found. The long-standing failure to find fossils of their obvious ancestors has been called the "Cambrian explosion" by paleontologists.

These species that emerged during the "explosion" are so different from each other that they are often treated as organisms with fundamentally different "body structures". This is why they are divided into different phyla.

Some of these organisms seem completely unknown to us, such as the Anomalocaris (see Figure 1) and the Opabinia (see Figure 2). There is no evidence that they were in any way less complex than the extant organisms of the same family, so it is difficult for evolutionists to conclude that Cambrian organisms represent "primitive" and "less evolved" life forms. For example, the odd shrimp Anomalocaris had a sophisticated compound eye system, which makes evolutionists wonder how these "primitive" stage organisms could have suddenly "evolved" so quickly!

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Figure 1: Anomalocaris

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Figure 2: Opabinia



Man was created by God, and the Creator is saving us

Empirical science is unable to grasp the whole of things because it pays too much attention to details, and it is even less likely to provide useful guidance on the spiritual level of people. Belief in Buddhism, Taoism and God regards karma as a feudal superstition.

It tells people the survival of the fittest and the emphasis on personality development, making people believe that anti-tradition, anti-orthodox, anti-god and anti-nature are the requirements of evolution, which can bring about an upgraded version of life.

As a result, human beings regard indulgent desires as human nature, and drug abuse, homosexuality, and sex change have become fashion and trends, causing human morality to decline and plummet.

However, prehistoric archeology tells us that the development of human civilization is periodically destroyed. When the technological and material level of human beings develops rapidly, while the spiritual world and moral level of human beings are in reverse movement, human beings will be destroyed by God.



How Humankind Came To Be

On January 20, 2023, Mr. Li Hongzhi, the founder of Falun Dafa, published the scripture "How Humankind Came To Be" to the world for the first time, pointing out:

"Since it’s the new year, I should have said a few festive words that everyone likes to hear, but I see danger is getting closer and closer to mankind. Because of this, Gods and Buddhas asked me to tell all beings in the world a few words that the Gods wish to say. Every word reveals heavenly secrets, and the purpose is for people to know the truth and be given another opportunity to be saved."

and:

"That is to say, humans don’t live in the world for the purpose of having so-called achievements in society. People struggle in life, drive hard, and fight for things by any means possible, and this only makes them corrupt.

Descending to the world to be a human is for eliminating sins and karma and for cultivating oneself well. Human beings came to the world to be saved, and they came to be human so as to wait for the Creator to save them back to the heavenly kingdoms. While waiting, they have accumulated merit and virtue life after life, and this is the purpose of reincarnation. "



Read the full article of "How Humankind Came to Be" and dissolve the lies of atheism and evolution from your mind:

https://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2023/1/21/206697.html

Pam
28th June 2023, 10:44
EnergyGem, first of all I want to thank you for taking the time to put together this very interesting topic. This is the old school type of thread I find so appealing.

I remember as a child having "the theory of evolution" explained to me as fact. It made no sense to me then and it doesn't now. These were the simple observations of a curious kid that hadn't yet been programmed to blindly accept this.

1-If the survival of the fittest is the rule of law in this realm, why would we evolve bodies that don't provide us with natural weather protection such as fur, feathers or some other biological advantage? Remembering that this would be happening over a long period of time.

2- What is the "survival of the fittest" benefit of having offspring that take so long mature?

3- Where are all of the examples of species that evolving into some other species? Shouldn't we see examples of this everywhere?

These were the questions of a little kid which of course were laughed at and ridiculed.

I found your information about Darwin very interesting regarding his personal character traits. I have found this to be true of so many people that have shaped our culture, they aren't quite as savory as the status quo narrative would like us to believe. Pasteur is another one that I knew nothing about until doing research into the nature of contagion. Lot's of questionable stuff with him as well.

In response to your comments about the current condition of humanity, I thought this video would be a very interesting addition to this thread. A interesting experiment when a culture (in this case, mice) lose meaning in their lives by having every need met by others and it's not pretty. The video is under 5 minutes in length.

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Ratszinger
28th June 2023, 11:23
I think we're all the manipulative fingers of God or whatever you want to name the singular organism we all connect to and can never escape. We are his/her/it's exploratory fingers allowing that singular organism to experience whatever it is awareness stumbled upon when that moment came that it awakened and thought, "What was that? Oh it was me! Wait? Who am I? And so we began. It isn't just us tho. This organism is all from singular organisms so small we can't see them to ants to the largest life forms anywhere of all kinds it's all this one being exploring and playing with itself!

Bill Ryan
28th June 2023, 13:34
A big subject! :) But for sure, Darwin's theory (of Natural Selection) is at best only a tiny and insignificant evolutionary factor. It's very very easy these days to pick large holes in it with very little trouble.

This thread may be more interesting and useful: :thumbsup:


Lamarckism: a different theory of evolution (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10863-Lamarckism-a-different-theory-of-evolution)

EnergyGem
28th June 2023, 17:28
EnergyGem, first of all I want to thank you for taking the time to put together this very interesting topic. This is the old school type of thread I find so appealing.

I remember a child having "the theory of evolution" explained to me as fact. It made no sense to me then and it doesn't now. These were the simple observations of a curious kid that hadn't yet been programmed to blindly accept this.

1-If the survival of the fittest is the rule of law in this realm, why would we evolve bodies that don't provide us with natural weather protection such as fur, feathers or some other biological advantage? Remembering that this would be happening over a long period of time.

2- What is the "survival of the fittest" benefit of having offspring that take so long mature?

3- Where are all of the examples of species that evolving into some other species? Shouldn't we see examples of this everywhere?

These were the questions of a little kid which of course were laughed at ridiculed.

I found your information about Darwin very interesting regarding his personal character traits. I have found this to be true of so many people that have shaped our culture, they aren't quite as savory as the status quo narrative would like us to believe. Pasteur is another one that I knew nothing about until doing research into the nature of contagion. Lot's of questionable stuff with him as well.

In response to your comments about the current condition of humanity, I thought this video would be a very interesting addition to this thread. A very interesting experiment when a culture (in this case, mice) loose meaning in their lives by having every need met by others and it's not pretty. The video is under 5 minutes in length.




You're welcome Pam, glad you found it of interest.

Yes I find that many people have a certain trait where they usually stubbornly hold on to their first acquired knowledge and notions about certain things, especially when it comes to science.

I think the truly great scientists and thinkers never confine themselves to our current scientific paradigms and understandings. They always dare to think outside the box and are very broad minded, those are the ones that make true breakthroughs.

Those questions you bought up are all very valid and evolutionists always like to ridicule quite aggressively when their theory is bought into question in any way even when the points being made are solid.

Another thought I could add to your list is why would we lose the gripping 'hand' like the feet of apes? Wouldn't this be an added advantage to escape from predators?

Also how could butterfly Metamorphosis 'evolve'?

There actually so many holes in the theory of evolution it could fill a book.

That video was very interesting and reminds me of previous civilizations who collapsed due to their overindulgences like ancient Greece and Rome. I believe that todays science has cut mankind off from two extremely important things for humanity 1) morality and 2) spirituality.

Science sees these things as superfluous and even non existent but without them I think mankind always heads towards self destruction.

Paul D.
28th June 2023, 18:05
There is also this perspective. I know Darwin was a Freemason as was his Grandfather Eramus Darwin , maybe his father too ? Facts I feel are relevant.

Here's an article by James Perloff.

Extract from main article

Darwinism is an Illuminati Scam

By James Perloff
(henrymakow.com)

"We are constantly, by means of our press, arousing a blind confidence in these theories... Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism." (Protocols 2:2-3)

The Illuminati have long known that if you destroy belief in God, people will cease to fear God and to obey the Ten Commandments. They then become pawns of the Illuminati, willing to serve money instead of principle, and carry out iniquities from sexual misdeeds to even murder.

In the Illuminati propaganda arsenal, the greatest tool for destroying faith in God has been Darwin's theory of evolution. I know some say "I believe in evolution and God." Nonetheless, countless people have become atheists from being taught the theory as "fact" - I was once one of them.

However, Darwinism cannot be challenged on morals alone. The public has been told evolution is "science," on a footing with physics and chemistry. Therefore Darwinism must be challenged on scientific grounds.

As author of two books on Darwin's spurious theory, I know one cannot discredit, in a few paragraphs, an idea which the Illuminati have spent millions to indoctrinate society with. But let's dent it, shall we?

Link to article

https://www.henrymakow.com/2013/08/Darwinism-is-an-Illuminati-Scam.html

Ernie Nemeth
28th June 2023, 22:20
I have never been able to accept 'evolution' as explained to me as a youngster in school.

For me it has always been about the 'eye'. No way an eye formed by accident on some previously blind animal, and lo!, it decided the eye was good. Where did the brain connections come from, then? They also accidentally 'appeared' just in time to decipher the input from the 'eye'? To me that's a 'conspiracy theory' of the highest order.

It still begs the question: Where did life come from?

That is why I like the over-arching explanation for all these sorts of quandaries, that there is no physical world at all, just a giant mind where we share consciousness in an endless realm limited only by our own imaginations.

ozmirage
28th June 2023, 23:18
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/
Debunking the debunkers...
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Another plausible argument might be raised for MARS (or similar planet) being the ancestral home of humanoids - perhaps many millions of years ago.
The Martian day is 24 hours, 39 minutes. When humans are isolated from the Sun cycle, their natural circadian rhythm averages 24 hours, 40 minutes. (Why folks wish they could sleep just one more hour ?)
The strength to weight ratio of a human on Mars is close to that of a gorilla on Earth.
The foot / calf structure, on Mars, would result in a springy gait similar to leaping kangaroos... and very energy efficient at that.
The lower light intensity of the Sun, on Mars, allows a human to directly look at it - without pain or injury.
(Some data from Richard Hoagland, and other researchers)

EnergyGem
29th June 2023, 07:54
Interesting stuff Seeclearly, I knew that Darwin's family had ties to freemasonry but I didn't know how deeply. I think the so called 'elite' believe in the occult heavily, the just don't want the masses to believe in any higher power, that's when they are the most malleable and the easiest to control.

Pam
29th June 2023, 12:14
I have never been able to accept 'evolution' as explained to me as a youngster in school.

For me it has always been about the 'eye'. No way an eye formed by accident on some previously blind animal, and lo!, it decided the eye was good. Where did the brain connections come from, then? They also accidentally 'appeared' just in time to decipher the input from the 'eye'? To me that's a 'conspiracy theory' of the highest order.

It still begs the question: Where did life come from?

That is why I like the over-arching explanation for all these sorts of quandaries, that there is no physical world at all, just a giant mind where we share consciousness in an endless realm limited only by our own imaginations.


Here is another simple observation that is more current in my life. I have two beautiful coleus plants in my house for 12 years. I have had them in average size pots. Each year they will grow to enormous size, several feet tall and trailing. they need to be drastically cut several times a year. They are in the same small amount of soil. They get water and a few drops of nutrients on occasion. This is really a physical impossibility according to rules of traditional science, at least as I studied it.

I have recently read the magnificent trilogy of Robert Monroe, OBE pioneer, and founder of hemi-sync technology. He documented his findings and organized the nature of this reality paradigm over many years of OBE experience at the turn of the century. It sent shivers down my when he talked of reaching the furthest point he was able to travel to. He called it the aperture and explained it as the point where the hologram originates from. At least that is my take on it.

Although I am stretching the boundaries of staying on topic, I guess we could call it the fractal approach, I can't help but wonder if there are not a huge amount of clues to dislodge the narrative that are thrown into this realm to those that stay open with the eyes of a child. I have observed a direct correlation with the amount of cognitive dissonance we carry and our ability to realize truth. Is this reality all about honing our discernment and at the same time maintaining the best of our humanity?

I came back to add, that this possibility in no way undermines a creator, it just adds to the mystery of how vast Source or God really is.

ExomatrixTV
29th June 2023, 14:31
100% related:


Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (Full Movie) Ben Stein:

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Big science has expelled smart new ideas from the classroom ... What they forgot is that every generation has its Rebel! That rebel, Ben Stein (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1091617/reference/) (Ferris Bueller’s Day Off) travels the world on his quest, and learns an awe-inspiring truth … that educators and scientists are being ridiculed, denied tenure and even fired – for the crime of merely believing that there might be evidence of design in nature, and that perhaps life is not just the result of accidental, random chance. To which Ben Says: Enough! And then gets busy. NOBODY messes with Ben.

thirtythree
29th June 2023, 15:58
I believe it. Charles Darwin was a freemason, just like his father and grand father.

In order to be a freemason you need to first and foremost believe in a sumpreme being. So Darwin can't be an atheist and Freemason at the same time.

I once came across a video of an interview of a man who talked about his experience of being invited into the inner ring of some really influential people who were taking part in 'rituals'.

He said they also made him talk with his dead mother to show him that the entities they were communicating with were real. Eventually, it all took it's toll on him and somehow he got out of it and repented. What really stayed with me from this interview is that he said:

"The devil literally went in person to Darwin to teach him the theory of evolution".


I can't find that video anywhere at the moment but if i do i'll post it here.

Eagle Eye
29th June 2023, 16:10
They wanted a theory based only on a scientific logic and leaving out the creation part, so Darwin's theory was the perfect cover-up.
As I said it in a previous topic, there is a huge gap between Neanderthal and modern human, there isn't a line that join those two together. Neanderthals has been on earth for around 300,000 years and disappeared long before humans showed up. Only our species has the right to be called human, because neanderthals were more similar to apes than humans and remained unevolved for 300,000 years. Now take a look at the development of humans in around 10,000 years. We are different and far greater from any species here on earth. Based on the story of creation, the earth was lifeless before the first human was created, so that leads to the theory of a mass extinction event involved in the time of neanderthals that wiped out everything and then another cycle of life begun.

Bill Ryan
30th June 2023, 11:49
...that there might be evidence of design in nature, and that perhaps life is not just the result of accidental, random chance.
See this excellent thread: (but who the "intelligent designer" is may be an interesting topic for discussion)


Intelligent Design (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?96229-Intelligent-Design&highlight=intelligent+design)

shaberon
1st July 2023, 02:25
I would say that Darwin has been supported by vested interests to exactly the same tune that reduced Newton and scrubbed Natural Science out of academia for the express purpose of Dead Souls Science.


The subject from the original Liberal Arts was Natural Philosophy such as with:


Agrippa (https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-history-of-renaissance-philosophy/natural-philosophy-astrology-and-magic/AAEB0B3208FCD324CBCC9CAF3379086A)

Pico della Mirandola (https://search.proquest.com/openview/6c818282047b7485ab030330cd8e6ca8/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y)


But not quite:

Aristotle's natural philosophy was not strictly speaking astrological...


Darwin observed something, he is probably partially correct without having the whole explanation. It goes in a bag of things that are unobservable:


Evolution on a global scale

Tectonic plate drift

Black holes by definition

Credit for vaccinations and medicines


It has gone into a socially-engineered knot which is much more a Fabian menace than spiritually connected like Natural Philosophy. Same school of Aristotle as in the theology of Aquinas and that kind.

Delight
1st July 2023, 03:05
I have put together some interesting threads that weave a possible picture of how "thought forms" like theories and hypotheses are used in the collective mind. These mind structures create separations and patterns which then capture our ability to observe what is really the case. The matrix is ours to create in freewill.

It seems to me that there is a natural order of creation using principles of the Creator which we use too. They underpin it all and we shape our imagintion through the principles (unconsciously until conscious) into reality. It is an artificial reality BUT it can be more and less in allignment with creator's order. Ours is changing dramatically. I imagine a wonderful new open field of possibility through CONSCIOUS allignment with Creator.

The capture of our mind through something like "Evolution" shapes the way we order the artifice. It blocks other POV and establishes limits on our imagination. The more it is believed, the harder it solidifies. I have been trying to understand how it is that people around me can just NOT see what I see.

Just this weekend with my brother and sister in law, I was trying to express MY POV that there are too many mysteries around the history and the idea of who we are and what the world is to be satisfied with the storyline.

My brother has never read anything about alt history. I brought up star forts and he has a solid idea and "understanding" of star forts. He even said that this area is something he really knows a lot about. His idea: they are fortifications to hold control of certain areas and the bastions are all about the use of cannons.

I suggested maybe they could have other purposes and could be much older. HOW were these structures planned so carefully and built at the time claimed? He brought up that they were built by people who were "cheap labor" and that they only needed to be fed bread and water. He suggested that the intricacies of the fort interiors were all about protecting the people inside. His model is all about war and I observe he considers war reasonable and inevitable. He actually feels disdain for humanity and thinks there are "too many people". He sees war as a way of population control. I sent him this video which I hope he watches.

Star Fort Theory

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There is more than one approach to the idea of evolution. Examples: There are suggestions that humans actually lived in shallow seas at one stage of "evolution" as a partially aquatic species (naked bodies that have layers of fat allow being in water more than hair and no padding.) People have moved out of some of the Darwinian ideas to see that evolution from ape like creatures COULD be possible (with genetic engineering to evolve us?). The How is not always agreed on. There is the idea that "punctuated equilibrium" could see sudden mutations in a species due to changes in environment.

It is important to me that we are spiritual beings FIRST and bring our energy of being and that translates in matter. IMO our beingness is expanding to encompass more accurate information. The accuracy is at a deep level of principle like in sacred geometry and the science of sound and light. We are the ones who create this experience. We are opening to the spiritual place we create.

I think at this time the collective mind is shattering and the artifice is crumbling. This is a turning point and is exciting! I particularly think that the ability to feel connected is increasing. People are questioning so many assumptions. I see the possibility that we are being downloaded in various ways with information from Source to alter our thought form attention. You cannot apparently dissolve thought forms, just generate a different one.

Experiences like NDEs and STES are helping so much to UN learn the beliefs that we have had so entrenched. Many people know that the body is only a vehicle BUT it is extraordinary and full of capacity. People are desiring to explore our ORGANIC technology and our connection with all that is.

IMO this earth is the place of paradox. It is our oyster to crack. Separation does have its place. Paradox means we can be fully aware of separation and conection as just thought forms. The TRUTH is found in the Creator's world where everything is just connected BECAUSE it is ONE living being with many faces. This is NOT artifice and SHOULD be our teacher.

I am convinced that in our life time, many here will fully live in a world that is multidimensional and where evolution in the old paradigm will just not be a thing we think anymore. IMO we will still be thinking but in a much more whole-istic QUALITATIVE and 360 degree way. We will understand paradox and we will no longer be locked in to an artificial system which is shattering. People ARE connecting with "God" MORE and more.

This may not be exactly applicable but I just heard this last night and found it reaching to the principles of Creator's building a reality. It is not what we have learned UNTIL now when it is unfolding to be able to perceive reality more clearly.

ZIwOth9NFBI

shaberon
2nd July 2023, 23:27
There are suggestions that humans actually lived in shallow seas at one stage of "evolution" as a partially aquatic species (naked bodies that have layers of fat allow being in water more than hair and no padding.) People have moved out of some of the Darwinian ideas to see that evolution from ape like creatures COULD be possible (with genetic engineering to evolve us?).



This has an interesting corollary of which I have no answer.

One idea is that land-based humans are cousins or evolutionary branches of Merfolk.

They have a bit in common with Sasquatch--avoidant tendencies--but otherwise they are vicious hunter-killers.

A meeting with them would not go well, you would be netted and consumed.

Because they only live in the depths, we simply have not discovered any Merfolk cemeteries on the ocean floor.



The Theosophical idea is that animals are "descended" from man, not physically, but from the mind. There may have been peaceful primates such as Tamarinds, and, as mankind's anger and violence erupted on the planet, the thoughtforms produced stronger bodies with forward-projecting teeth, such as Baboons.

That is similar to the ideas you mentioned. That thought affects matter, even organic bodies. Could this be possible? One of the most specifically-evolutionary studies I recall was webbed feet on a creature from the Galapagos or Easter Island or something like that. You can read the fossils and see that millions of years ago, there were plain feet, and at some discernable point, they all seem to have changed rather rapidly. The idea, of course, was that protein randomly shifted around to produce webbed feet--rather than, say, fins on the head, or a kite in the armpits--and the judge of natural law apparently called it a winner and spread it around.

Could it be that at some level, an animal may know "my feet are not great for swimming", and this factor mutates its offspring?

Although I am not a strong follower of Buckminster Fuller, we can credit him with bringing a couple of specific points into public view:


The earth accretes about sixty tons of cosmic dust per year. This was known, but he brought it to light.

That is because cosmic dust contains "Bucky balls", which are fairly large, complex molecules.


Since then, I think we are forced to conclude that meteoric and interstellar dust is the source of both water and organic molecules.

In that sense, there might be nothing to create. If the Big Bang is not real, then, a type of "spatial primordial soup" is a permanent, underlying substratum, depending only on the ability to shape and use it.

Darwinism could still be possible, to the extent that there probably could be "random", physically-based mutations that survive to reproduce, but, I strongly favor the view that there is more to forming an inhabitable planet with life forms than "random mechanical" circumstances believed in by both Atheists and Deists.

I don't really have solutions or conclusions on this, I think it is like a sculpture, which is still blurry because of those tenets that are deliberately "enforced" in academia and other major institutions, and the other things are still mostly theories, but probably better leads in how nature truly operates.

Something that has become quite clear is the constant convertibility of energy to matter to other forms of matter, and everything is more or less a boiling change of states. No tiny, solid particles of matter have ever been found, so far it is just electrical forces which are somehow bound in a way that is contrary to observable matter. Add it all up and one gets four percent of detectable mass, and so that which is visible is an extreme minority.

Anything that is measured for scientific purposes takes place in an artificial, imaginary box. No one has come up with an equation that encompasses the unlimited size of the cosmos. I'm not sure you can even do that.


In biological terms, the one thing that interested me enough to study at one point in time, is that the process of respiration--whether by a bacteria or human--relies on quantum tunneling in order to insert oxygen into its molecules. So does the sun, in order to radiate, in a way that implies it knows the answer to the square root of negative one, and then nothing on earth is much of anything but transmuted solar energy.

The most basic things are impossible to begin with.

There are two things that are randomly unpredictable, Quantum Tunneling and Radioactivity. There is no way to know how or when this will happen to any given particle. But somehow any given amount of material is affected as a aggregate at the same rate of speed.

Darwinian Evolution may be a "special case" in about the same way the visible spectrum is a "special case", because by different configurations of prisms and slits, there are a least a dozen more kinds of spectra you can plainly see.