The Kordylewski Clouds + Plasma Universe

[jaybee]

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I've only just heard of the Kordylewski Clouds via Robert Temple's relatively new book - 'A New Science of Heaven' (https://www.waterstones.com/book/a-new-science-of-heaven/robert-temple/9781473623750) .... first published in 2022..

The Clouds are described as Dusty Complex Plasma and (by Robert Temple) as potentially being huge conscious entities - so this is another great meeting place of Science and Spirituality -

This epic quote comes from Robert in an interview (posted further below) where he says...(24:40)


'This is not an Earth / Moon system that we're living in - it's a Two Cloud System with an Earth and Moon thrown in....'


that's how radical this whole discovery is - that then leads us onto the Bio Plasma Universe -

In the interview another great quote - (there are many)....@43:33....


'There's the good news and then there's the bad news - the good news is that nobody dies - the bad news is................. nobody dies.....'


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Signs of Earth's Weird, Elusive 'Dust Moons' Finally Spotted (https://www.space.com/42293-earth-orbiting-dust-clouds-confirmed.html)


https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/WmFHiFQJgKwiuGEYmFbK7e-970-80.jpg.webp


Dust clouds that orbit Earth like moons may finally have had their existence confirmed after more than a half-century of controversy, new research finds

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and one of the interviews with Robert Temple about it all ....

Professor Robert Temple talking about a New Science of Heaven (1:01:03)

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[RunningDeer]

“A New Science of Heaven: How the new science of plasma physics is
shedding light on spiritual experience," by Robert Temple

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Summary (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1473623758/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1):




'This book is an important contribution, and I hope it will open many minds. What is particularly important in it are the discussions of David Bohm, of bioplasma, biophotons, and bioelectronics.' - PROFESSOR ZBIGNIEW WOLKOWSKI, Sorbonne University, Paris



"Answers so many questions, scientific and esoteric, about the true nature of our reality... A seminal work... Will revolutionise how we frame reality and the thinking of everyone on this planet. Kudos to Professor Temple for striking the first match to light the fire." - NEW DAWN



The story of the science of plasma and its revolutionary implications for the way we understand the universe and our place in it.



Histories of science in the 20th century have focused on relativity and quantum mechanics. But, quietly in the background, there has been a third area of exploration which has equally important implications for our understanding of the universe. It is unknown to the general public despite the fact that many Nobel prize winners, senior academics and major research centres around the world have been devoted to it - it is the study of plasma



Plasma is the fourth state of matter and the other three - gas, liquid and solids - emerge out of plasma. This book will reveal how over 99% of the universe is made of plasma and how there are two gigantic clouds of plasma, called the Kordylewski Clouds, hovering between the Earth and the Moon, only recently discovered by astronomers in Hungary. Other revelations not previously known outside narrow academic disciplines include the evidence that in certain circumstances plasma exhibits features that suggest they may be in some sense alive: clouds of plasma have evolved double helixes, banks of cells and crystals, filaments and junctions which could control the flow of electric currents, thus generating an intelligence similar to machine intelligence. We may, in fact, have been looking for signs of extra-terrestrial life in the wrong place.



Bestselling author Robert Temple has been following the study of plasma for decades and was personally acquainted with several of the senior scientists - including Nobel laureates - at its forefront, including Paul Dirac, David Bohm, Peter Mitchell and Chandra Wickramasinghe (who has co-written an academic paper with Temple).

[shaberon]

...plasma exhibits features that suggest they may be in some sense alive: clouds of plasma have evolved double helixes, banks of cells and crystals, filaments and junctions which could control the flow of electric currents, thus generating an intelligence similar to machine intelligence. We may, in fact, have been looking for signs of extra-terrestrial life in the wrong place.



We have been trying to say something like this since Dr. Crookes discovered it.

So, 99% of the observable universe *is* plasma, and the so-called "missing mass" that is called the reason for Dark Matter is only true if Relativity and Cosmic Expansion are literally true according to those laws.

The mysterious Todas say, when asked how they do healing, it is by love from the sun.

Following along, if the Sun is considered a divinity, and, it is a bunch of plasma which has an effect such as being discussed, that makes it more interesting. I can observe it, to say the least.


These are more difficult, but, they can be detected, the Kordylewski Clouds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kordylewski_cloud) were reported in the 1960s, and, so to speak, "established" by modern astronomical facilities in 2018. Here is why they were predicted to exist and how it works.

There is, of course, going to be a set amount. Mathematics cannot actually calculate the lenses in your glasses, and, another thing it cannot calculate is what is called the three-body orbital problem. It is really good if you just want to think about the earth going around the sun, or a binary star system. However if a third item got in the middle there is no exact solution.

However there is a special case or a limitation where that lack of solution reduces to a definition. So, these plasma clouds are predicted as the "negligible mass" at the L4 and L5 Lagrange Points (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrange_point#L4_and_L5):


Lagrange points are the constant-pattern solutions of the restricted three-body problem. For example, given two massive bodies in orbits around their common barycenter, there are five positions in space where a third body, of comparatively negligible mass, could be placed so as to maintain its position relative to the two massive bodies. This occurs because the combined gravitational forces of the two massive bodies provide the exact centripetal force required to maintain the circular motion that matches their orbital motion.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Lagrange_points_Earth_vs_Moon.jpg/300px-Lagrange_points_Earth_vs_Moon.jpg


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Lagrangian_points_equipotential.gif






Allright. So if these plasma clouds can be measured as constantly present, this is another example of a small object (https://www.quora.com/If-the-Moon-were-at-one-of-the-Earth-Sun-Lagrange-points-would-it-cease-to-orbit-the-Earth):



If the Moon were at one of the Earth-Sun Lagrange points, would it cease to orbit the Earth?


Yes.

L1 or L2: At first the moon follows a Lissajous Orbit around the Lagrange point. However, because the first and second lagrange points are dynamically unstable, it won’t stay there for very long. Eventually it will “fall” away from the Lagrange point either towards or away from Earth.

[...description of instability...]

This is a very bad thing. The moon’s orbit now evolves chaotically and will end up crossing that of Earth and other inner planets over millions of years, until it either collides with one or gets thrown out to Jupiter, Destroyer of Dynamically Unstable Objects. If the moon doesn’t hit something, sooner or later Jupiter will kick it out of the solar system entirely. In the meantime, the moon’s mass is enough to affect the orbits of the inner planets on close encounters, especially Mercury and Mars. A high-speed impact with Mars or Mercury could release more energy than those planets’ gravitational binding energy and cause them to be mostly fragmented by the impact (requires a speed of about 11.5 km/s for Mars or 7 km/s for Mercury. For comparison IIRC it’s common for asteroids to hit Earth going 20 km/s or more, although our stronger gravity speeds them up a bit), resulting in a huge cloud of fragments filling the inner solar system and causing Earth to repeatedly suffer extinction-level impact events. Ejecta from a Venus impact would also be devastating, and of course an Earth-Moon impact is Bye Bye Biosphere. And temporarily hydrosphere and lithosphere as well.


[L3 is similar, starting further away]


L4 or L5: This is the one where LaGrange points, and orbits around them, are actually stable. In theory. In practice I’m not sure if this would actually be stable with perturbations from the other planets, and the moon could get kicked out of the 1:1 resonance (again), but if it doesn’t you’d have a pretty interesting scenario...

...the moon would be in basically the same position in the sky all the time. It would always rise either in the afternoon and set a couple hours before midnight (if it was at L5) or rise a couple hours after midnight and set in the morning (if it was at L4). Every other planet can show up in the morning or evening, or any time of night for the superior planets, and sometimes are unobservable with the naked eye because their apparent position is too close to the sun’s, but the moon would be the one wandering star that seems to follow the sun! It would undoubtedly have a special place in the history of astronomy and mythology. Perhaps it would be deified as either the horse pulling the sun chariot across the sky (if at L4), or the wolf eternally pursuing it (if at L5).




That means:

This also applies to all planets and moons.

Has nothing to do with the magnetics or atmosphere of the planet, just its mass.

Trevor Constable was the one who started trying to photograph "invisible" things with specialized cameras, and he claimed there were animate creatures made of plasmatized calcium. It can also be found by certain radars and he claimed that twice the Air Force had approached it armed with AIM-9 Sidewinders.

Those were what were used to destroy the three slow-moving objects earlier this year, although one of them missed. Same reason. Using radar for slow objects. Except those were actual objects not plasmatic creatures.

I am not that sure about his story, but, I think this view that plasma is rather directly significant to life itself is the right idea.

[jaybee]

[post snipped see#2 above]

[from the summary on Amazon...]

Plasma is the fourth state of matter and the other three - gas, liquid and solids - emerge out of plasma. This book will reveal how over 99% of the universe is made of plasma and how there are two gigantic clouds of plasma, called the Kordylewski Clouds, hovering between the Earth and the Moon, only recently discovered by astronomers in Hungary.


I was just thinking that if gas, liquid and solids emerge out of plasma then plasma must be the FIRST state of matter - and then I saw this...from Prof Vinod Krishan (https://www.iiap.res.in/IIA50/vinod_krishan#:~:text=Abstract%3A%20A%20plasma%20is%20not,any%20easier%20to%20understand%20them.)


Plasmas the First State Of Matter

Abstract: A plasma is not only the most prevalent state of matter in the universe, it is the first state of matter from which evolved the other three states. The universality of plasmas has however not made it any easier to understand them. Astrophysicists consider plasmas, at best, an unavoidable presence and reluctantly accept them, often without the plasma phenomena.

I shall strive to introduce the youngsters to the phenomenal diversity of plasmas in the cosmos and in our day to day lives. Plasmas can be described as a collection of electrically charged particles or as conducting fluids. Different levels of description of a plasma come handy to delineate the characteristics of an object, from its shape to the radiation it emits. The stability or otherwise of a plasma is the main preoccupation of a practitioner. Unstable plasmas are not always undesirable. Plasma come with different degrees of ionization. I shall also emphasize some of the novelties of a partially ionized plasma.

It's only logical that plasma should now be designated the FIRST state of matter....

[jaybee]

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Trevor Constable was the one who started trying to photograph "invisible" things with specialized cameras, and he claimed there were animate creatures made of plasmatized calcium. It can also be found by certain radars and he claimed that twice the Air Force had approached it armed with AIM-9 Sidewinders.

Those were what were used to destroy the three slow-moving objects earlier this year, although one of them missed. Same reason. Using radar for slow objects. Except those were actual objects not plasmatic creatures.

I am not that sure about his story, but, I think this view that plasma is rather directly significant to life itself is the right idea.


Thanks for the reminder of Trevor Constable's 'critters'....

Just now looking for a Critter image to put in this post I found a couple here (https://www.spacewarpcomic.com/bonus/sf1-the-air-jungle/)


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These low-density animals have names like air whales, sky fish and cloud beasts.

But the definitive book on the subject is The Cosmic Pulse of Life, The revolutionary biological power behind UFOs, by Trevor James Constable.

In his book they are known as ‘critturs’. The author includes infra-red photos and they look like translucent embryos, jellyfish or amoebas.


https://www.spacewarpcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/constable01-AMOEBE-LIKE-FORM-FOR-SF1.jpg


https://www.spacewarpcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Bravo3-Trevor-James-Constable-FOR-SF1.jpg

[shaberon]

It's only logical that plasma should now be designated the FIRST state of matter....


Yes except...let me just postulate there are three more.

What I might suggest as more important, is that the fifth is *not* a Bose Einstein Condensate, which, currently, *is* called the fifth state of matter--just because it is "another kind".

It however is relatively unnatural, produced in lab conditions, because it occurs at states near Absolute Zero.

In this condition, the material involved in the BEC has the behavior of a single atom.

This behavior, for example, has been found to slow down light to a humble 37 miles per hour.

Qv. Hokkyo 1972 (https://academic.oup.com/ptp/article/48/4/1191/1822659) suggesting a plasma model for the brain's bio-electricity, compared to the then-extant Bose condensation model. Much follow-up research here? Of course not.


BEC has not been observed outside the lab and is unlikely to exist naturally. So, I would not run off claiming it to have anything to do with either the formation of material or consciousness.

Instead, if we propose solid, liquid, gas, plasma, x, y, and z, then the xyz are further states of how plasma relates to consciousness, and furthermore, that consciousness is a sublime state of matter. This has even come out of the works of virulent materialists such as Baron d'Holbach around Voltaire's time. That's his own independent speculation--consciousness is some kind of substance.

That simultaneously explains how the sun works, and, why plasma might help explain spirituality or the illusory-ness of death.

In the sense that plasma is the nursery for baryonic matter or the dense states, consciousness and the like is a governor or impulse to plasma. But I do not think we have instruments that can detect anything more refined than plasma. The only thing I know of that can really measure memory and the like, is a living organism. In Quantum Physics, of course, the observer cannot be separated from the experiment. "Vacuum space" seethes with quantum energy. So even if there was no plasma, there could be at any time.

I can't say anything much more definitive, but, this is both observable, and, I would say, more *useful* than some other kinds of inquiry. Whether there really are or aren't black holes--that level of gravity is sheerly destructive--how could it possibly be useful to a living organism? Perhaps indirectly, by re-cycling things, but those are supposed to be dead suns.

In System of Nature (https://iweb.langara.ca/rjohns/files/2019/08/dholbach.pdf), d'Holbach shreds the notion that the soul is independent of the body. He lacks the finesse to say it is an exalted state of matter; it just forms the necessary conclusion that the soul or consciousness somehow *is* material, rather than the theological ideas of the time saying it was "above" or "other than" matter, an independent free agent. He didn't know what plasma was.

At this point, we are kind of tip-toeing through the tulips that it *might* be more significant than merely a measurable electrical effect, which I find exciting, because I believe it to be exactly that bridge between observable material and subjective experience.

[shaberon]

Thanks for the reminder of Trevor Constable's 'critters'....



Yes, anyone can take a look at the re-published Cosmic Pulse of Life (https://ia902304.us.archive.org/2/items/the-cosmic-pulse-of-life/The%20Cosmic%20Pulse%20of%20Life.pdf), which adds some more pictures from a friend in Italy that are perhaps more interesting.

I mean Trevor's stuff looks almost silly to the point where you *would* want to dismiss it as dust or something, in the days when people photographed flying trash can lids. But the man put considerable time into roaming the desert trying to photograph something invisible. And he found something that, apparently, radar also did.

Last time I checked, we have radio telescopes scanning for signals from outer space, and no one watching the atmosphere in front of their own nose.

People find things optically, e. g. Phoenix Lights and so on, and there is a whole subject in visible plasmas such as St. Elmo's Fire. But nothing much more about a basically invisible "critter", because our curiosity has been pointed other ways:

The “critters” proved to consist of calcium
and fluids, the mineral and the fluids both being in the functional or plasmatic
state.

The mineral in this plasmatic state was quite able to reflect radar echoes, in
accordance with the known properties of plasmas.


Again, I, personally, don't know, but I think it is the right arena for observations, compared to "looking for extra-terrestrials in the wrong place".

The solar system and earth's own atmosphere are filled with plasma events, which, perhaps even result in some kind of organisms and/or their food source, and since our whole nervous system is electrical in nature, then it does look like a systemic loop or inter-connectedness if you will.

H. Kroll (https://books.google.com/books?id=99k-Sih_TukC&lpg=PA1&ots=PEBAIBcQ5y&dq=tether%20incident%20ultraviolet%20camera&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q=tether%20incident%20ultraviolet%20camera&f=false) refers to such a "blue field around a black hole" at NASA's "Tether Incident" which involved a 5,400V plasma, and, perhaps, bio-forms. His idea is that they are normally etherialized so they don't get punctured by meteorites.

[jaybee]

.............NASA's "Tether Incident" which involved a 5,400V plasma, and, perhaps, bio-forms. His idea is that they are normally etherialized so they don't get punctured by meteorites.


thanks for posts and another great reminder..... of a famous bit of (plasma) footage - the other worldly and beguiling Tether Incident -

Got to show it now :)....

actual Tether footage begins @ around 3:20

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[shaberon]

... a famous bit of (plasma) footage - the other worldly and beguiling Tether Incident -



We were told it is dust and camera artifacts.

If you dig around a little bit, there is similar footage (STS-90 perhaps), which shows similar behavior over the tops of thunderstorms.

The storms themselves are mandatory. The earth has to experience about 1,000 lightning bursts per second, or, all of our energy will dissipate into free space--and all the beneficial work that owes largely to plasma will have to find another workshop.

So at a certain point, magnetics and atmosphere *do* have quite a bit of say about what goes on with a planet--whereas the Lagrange points are simply the consequence of the mass.

None of that directly concerns either the nature of light, or, the more conventional form of electricity that affects Kirlian photography.

We cannot see light. All it does is stimulate the retina, and we take this and create our own bio-luminescence that the brain sees!

Similarly with the other senses. All we do is create our own world. Maybe some of this is accurate to what is around us, and obviously it is incomplete whether you want to believe the "critters" pictures or not, it would be very unusual for someone to directly perceive infra-red, or radio waves, etc., so we are still in a humble position of only scratching the surface of what the sun may be doing, or what the human body is.

And so these are some good breadcrumbs around the beginning of this thread: observables!

There isn't a foregone conclusion or something to force proof onto--it is closer to how science should incrementally progress, rather than being shaped or confined as it has been since the 1600s, in ways that are sort of a different topic, but are easily demonstrable. Main problem being that life/consciousness/subjectivity was whisked away as a "random result", whereas Astrology or Natural Science has always posited that the Sun must be the chief driving influence of mind and matter, which are much more "together" than they are "opposite sides in conflict".

I require sun and soil to function at all.

[jaybee]

... a famous bit of (plasma) footage - the other worldly and beguiling Tether Incident -



We were told it is dust and camera artifacts.

Indeed..... and a funny old thing it turns out it IS/WAS dust - complex dusty plasma :) !!!




And so these are some good breadcrumbs around the beginning of this thread: observables!



Yes observables... for example the STS 75 'tether' footage I now remember ... used ultraviolet light to see all the plasma activity - at the beginning of the video (around 1 minute mark) it's all dark then they switch to ultraviolet - the man aboard, Jeff, is questioned about what he can see (presumably with the naked eye) but he doesn't report seeing the swarms that they can see at Mission Control...

in this Space Shuttle Info - page 44 (http://www.nasa-klass.com/Curriculum/Get_Oriented%202/Space%20Shuttle%20Information/RDG_Space-Shuttle-Info-Additional/Shuttle%20Missions%201981-99.pdf)....ultraviolet light equipment is mentioned in the previous STS flight 74....


Additional cargo bay payloads: Shuttle Solar Backscatter Ultra violet (SSBUV) instrument flying for eighth time and designed to
measure ozone concentrations in atmosphere.

Cameras that go a little bit into infrared pick up the classic orbs - (not sure if they go a little bit into ultraviolet as well?) - but either end of the spectrum is just out of the normal range of visible light for us humans..... most of us, most of the time, but some people see more and maybe we could train ourselves to see more......?

[grapevine]

... a famous bit of (plasma) footage - the other worldly and beguiling Tether Incident -

We were told it is dust and camera artifacts.

Indeed..... and a funny old thing it turns out it IS/WAS dust - complex dusty plasma :) !!!



What springs immediately to mind is the Philip Pullman trilogy, "His Dark Materials", where Dust is "consciousness, knowledge and wisdom". It wouldn't be the first time where fiction and fact crosses paths.

[shaberon]

Here is a corollary that just popped up.

I saw it in a not-too-well-written article which implied this may be relevant to Dark Matter:


In a groundbreaking turn of events, the scientific community is buzzing with excitement over the potential discovery of a fifth fundamental force of nature...


It was talking about a recent Fermilab announcement, and the key is not that this is new--it isn't--but, a "fifth force".

Much like with the clouds, the Fermilab project is not quite new; it is simply a more precise confirmation of something that had been previously detected. "Repetition" is how science works; if I want to, I can try to repeat Constable's "invisible photography" and see what happens, compared to saying a hundred things about some weird video that who knows.

This run confirmed that muons deviate about 10% from how they are supposed to behave according to the laws of physics.

Muon-catalyzed fusion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon-catalyzed_fusion) is the proper name for what we call "cold fusion", which, yes, there is big money being poured into this research currently. Fusion is how the sun works. Man can replicate it--if under control you have a reactor, if not, a bomb.

So this is related to plasma, and the muons are pouring through you right now. They have been detected in mines.

There is a much better write-up in Scientific American (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/muon-mystery-deepens-with-latest-measurements/), which will help us understand it better. Just a few snips:


For decades, physicists have puzzled over tantalizing hints that muons are more sensitive to magnetic fields than theory says they should be: run muons in circles around a powerful magnet, and they “wobble,” decaying in a different direction than expected.

But the Standard Model leaves physicists unsatisfied; it doesn’t explain phenomena such as dark matter or mysteries such as the surprisingly low mass of the Higgs boson.

Physicists must calculate the remote possibility that the muon interacts not with one but up to five photons popping in and out of existence before continuing on its way.



That's it in a nutshell. The article talks a bit more about the predictions of previous models of lattice quantum chromodynamics (QCD), which have failed to be satisfactory, especially these latest results. A Russian one that ignored previous attempts seemed to be closer. The point is, a muon that lives for two microseconds may have about five interactions with particle/antiparticle pairs churned out of vacuum space.

In other words, just raw space affects matter. Muons are about 207 times as massive as electrons, so, they are both large, and, long-lived, since most similar particles decay in about a quadrillionth of a second.

That is pretty close to saying that space is the fifth state of matter, or, another force, meaning that physical reality is not fully defined by the four forces as we have been working with. Some scientists may go sniffing for more particles that have not been observed yet, however the quantum properties of vacuum are long since observed, even though they too came from a theoretical prediction. The Casimir Effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect) took about fifty years to be acceptably measured in terms of its predictions.


Even the Nebular Hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebular_hypothesis) took over two hundred years to really gain ground, and now we can get pictures of what are believed to be planets forming in the Orion Nebula:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/M42proplyds.jpg




Again, the unobserved "dark matter" may be little more than a placeholder for some unknown force or effect for something other than what it predicts itself to be.

What is observed is this type of formation which makes a 99% plasma universe, which causes radiation and things like muons, which indicate a "fifth force" of just space itself.

[shaberon]

Cameras that go a little bit into infrared pick up the classic orbs - (not sure if they go a little bit into ultraviolet as well?) - but either end of the spectrum is just out of the normal range of visible light for us humans..... most of us, most of the time, but some people see more and maybe we could train ourselves to see more......?


No, cameras won't usually go both ways. I believe it was the sensors inside those CCTV cameras that took ultraviolet as a kind of accidental bonus beyond their intentions.

I cannot remember the title, but, one of the threads not too long ago had a few of us discussing x-ray vision. I have personally experienced a few kinds of clairvoyance. That was one of them. I do not know how else to describe it, other than your flesh turns into a translucent outline, and your skeleton is very distinct, basically just like x-ray pictures.

I have read that some can see the solar corona at will. I have not. But I would say there are a few bandwidths, or, spectra perhaps, of auric sight. What I experienced was very repeatable, always in common with itself, and certainly interesting. It would agree that "everything is alive", but things like driveway rocks and a grassy lawn are relatively pale and featureless compared to people. It is possible that means it is related to infra-red. That makes a bit of sense, because a person produces a heat field that tapers up like a flame, and on a small scale, this causes fast motion.

One of the simplest ways I know to gauge one's sensitivity is Lilac Chaser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilac_chaser). Statistically, it suggests about thirty seconds for a person to get the effect. For me, the whole thing trips almost immediately:



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Lilac-Chaser.gif




Biologists say that it has to do with "recovery" of rods and cones or something; on a subjective basis, I would have to say that it has to do with being conditioned to watch concrete forms. But we already know that atoms and electrons are not "small, infinitely hard bb's", they are bound electrical forces, and even so, "things" are still mostly empty space.

If one was to see what is normally called invisible, you would have to look in the negative space, and not really at the supposed hard surfaces of things. Moreover, if space is a thing, and the brain makes its own show, reality is in the Phosphenes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene).

There is something extremely strange about light, and the sense of vision, which I can probably only talk about subjectively. It has no measuring apparatus, and medical science will ascribe it all to being defects or mistakes. Someone posted I might have some special disease that I can't remember the name of, but, when I looked it up, no, that was not the right explanation.

Subjectively, it has more to do with the brain composing its reality, moreso than registering the stimuli, and--after death, what use will those bodily senses have?

You won't have eyes to see with. Just vision--whatever that is.

[jaybee]

One of the simplest ways I know to gauge one's sensitivity is Lilac Chaser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilac_chaser). Statistically, it suggests about thirty seconds for a person to get the effect. For me, the whole thing trips almost immediately:

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it appears straight away for me, as well... the whole thing is quite a treat for the eyes + brain isn't it........ :)

and you bring up interesting points.... :thumbsup:

[jaybee]

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Quote from the book..... 'A New Science of Heaven' - Robert Temple....

End of Chapter 3 ~ page 36 ~


If what these scientists are showing - and I for one think they are - is that the internal structures of the two clouds could be so complex , and at such a vast scale, then they surpass any possible human knowledge at this time.The storage capacity for information would easily include the ability to retain full knowledge of everything that has ever happened in our local cosmic environment for four billion years.

Everyone that has ever lived will be recorded. Every creature that has ever roamed the surface of the Earth will be recorded. Every plant that has ever grown will be as well.

The presiding consciousness, or what psychologists call 'the executive ego states' of the two clouds will have personalities so alien from our own that we cannot conceive of them. Since the clouds evidently exist in a pair, they may be 'married'. (Or at least in a civil partnership?)

The questions are only just beginning.


Are the Kordylewski Clouds actually the famed Akashic Records (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records) .............. quietly sitting there on our doorstep - ??

[TravelerJim]

Jaybee thank you for this. It so happens that I only coincidentally ran across Robert Temple and his work a few days ago.....

He is a pleasure to listen to and his conversation in the last few weeks or so with Jay Weidner was very interesting and highly recommended. It seems Temple knew and hung out with a lot of big names in the space/psychic arenas of yesteryear.

This brings possibly new perspectives as to what the Human Cabal is really up to as they must have known about all this a long time ago. So that begs the questions as to how this plays into what we see going on in our world now. Lots of potential ramifications!

[RunningDeer]

Jaybee thank you for this. It so happens that I only coincidentally ran across Robert Temple and his work a few days ago.....

He is a pleasure to listen to and his conversation in the last few weeks or so with Jay Weidner was very interesting and highly recommended. It seems Temple knew and hung out with a lot of big names in the space/psychic arenas of yesteryear.

This brings possibly new perspectives as to what the Human Cabal is really up to as they must have known about all this a long time ago. So that begs the questions as to how this plays into what we see going on in our world now. Lots of potential ramifications!
Good place to add, jaybee's post from the Jay Weidner thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108337-REALiTY-CHeCK-with-Jay-Weidner&p=1570910&viewfull=1#post1570910). http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/hat-baseball.gif

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This is an enjoyable, wide ranging + informative conversation between Jay Weidner and Robert Temple -

the interview centres on Robert Temple's new book...'A New Science of Heaven' (https://www.waterstones.com/book/a-new-science-of-heaven/robert-temple/9781473623750) and ripples out from there...

A read through the comments under the video on the YouTube site indicates the high quality of the presentation and it IS a real gem...

enjoy.....


The Bio-Plasma Universe


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Premiered on 7 Dec 2022
Author Robert Temple joins Jay Weidner for a far ranging discussion on the Plasma Universe and how this new science confirms many ancient spiritual beliefs. The show ends with Robert reminiscing about the two years he spent on the set of 2001: A Space Odyssey.


@12:15.....Robert ... "One of the things I like to stress is that science is finally catching up with Ancient Wisdom..."

@15;30.....Jay....Are there powers that be that don't want people looking into this?
Robert .... "Certainly - because if we understand all this then we can't be controlled by all the psychopaths that rule the world.."

@16:00...Robert... "The authoritarianism is growing daily - it doesn't matter if you're left wing or right wing - that's all beside the point - the fact is it's the control freaks versus the rest of us..."

@31:30... Jay... "The big wake up call is exactly this subject - because once you actually understand the spiritual landscape of plasma physics you realise that you are eternal - you're not going to die and therefore there's nothing to be afraid of ..."

@43:00... (regarding plasma physics)....Jay... I think it's at the basis of all the spiritual traditions - I think it's at the basis of alchemy, especially - I think it's at the basis of the previous civilization that was here before the cataclysm......."

[jaybee]

Jaybee thank you for this. It so happens that I only coincidentally ran across Robert Temple and his work a few days ago.....

He is a pleasure to listen to and his conversation in the last few weeks or so with Jay Weidner was very interesting and highly recommended. It seems Temple knew and hung out with a lot of big names in the space/psychic arenas of yesteryear.

This brings possibly new perspectives as to what the Human Cabal is really up to as they must have known about all this a long time ago. So that begs the questions as to how this plays into what we see going on in our world now. Lots of potential ramifications!

:thumbsup:


Yes I love Robert Temple - he's so intelligent, open minded and.............civilized :) - with a sense of humour that sprinkles an extra touch of magic on his work -

I first came across him in the 1970s with his most famous book The Sirius Mystery (https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/410060) and I've read more of his books (but not all) over the years - in the 2nd edition reprint of the Sirius Mystery, in the preface, he relates the trouble he had with the CIA and other people/organizations because of the book - getting investigated, shunned by many in the science community and blackballed - so he's no stranger to (accidently) touching on the sensitive nerves of those who want to keep 'things' secret..... .... Robert Temple is a 'man of the people' type of academic, though, and his work is for the General Public - for OUR education - bless him a thousand times+ for that....

re your last paragraph about the cabal...


indeed - while main stream science (and everyone else) are only just getting into the enormity of plasma physics they must have been at it for many decades - the utterly shocking and irresponsible nuclear tests in the ionosphere of the 50s and 60s, on retrospect, must have been connected to early plasma research - - - just crazy to look at what they were doing and that they had no idea what would happen to the earth because of it - there was even a possibility it could have destroyed the planet as we know it - oh but this didn't stop them - perish the thought - they went on their merry way regardless of the consequences - and now while the public and their cars etc are blamed for climate instability - turns out the instability COULD partly be man made..... and THEY are the men who could have done it with the dangerous high altitude nuclear tests...:doh:

sorry nearly went off on a little rant there....


A Brief History of: The Starfish Prime Nuclear Test (Short documentary) (5:54)

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Good place to add, jaybee's post from the Jay Weidner thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108337-REALiTY-CHeCK-with-Jay-Weidner&p=1570910&viewfull=1#post1570910). http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/hat-baseball.gif



Many thanks for that, RunningDeer - :thumbsup:

[shaberon]

.Are the Kordylewski Clouds actually the famed Akashic Records (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records) .............. quietly sitting there on our doorstep - ??


I would suggest something like the reverse of that.

First, Akashic Records is sort of a made-up phrase without any basis. "Akasa" simply means "Space", and the Theosophical phrase that inspired "akashic records" was "impressions on the astral light".

This has a physical corollary.

Certain things are said to retain impressions from all the light that comes to them: Snow, and, to a lesser extent, steel.

The astral light would be a little different, because it would mean the impressions given to it by consciousness.

As one example, because HPB could control sounds emitted by an elemental, one time she asked Olcott how many keys were on his keyring. He couldn't remember, but the elemental knocked the correct answer.

"Easy. I just read your subconscious impressions in the astral light".

Or, the main way she wrote books with thousands of quotes--being basically uneducated, and not having that kind of a library--again by reading astral light. Things look backwards. She re-wrote the text forwards, but then was accused of misattributions. She had left the page numbers backwards! So when reversed, they turned out to be accurate.

So, if thinking of plasma in terms of it being a kind of nursery, having to do with the production of stars and human consciousness, then I think it may be a slightly different medium that records phenomena, sort of a "capture" of light.


Following through, then, yes, Alchemy is a type of veiled language expressing something similar, all the way up to Isaac Newton, which is how we can tell he has been hijacked merely for the subject of gravity and Classical Mechanics.

If you read Newton on Antimony, it is not a blank Akash or Cosmic Virgin, but, a type of perfected Quintessence made by a spiritual process *through* the compound world made of multiple elements--i. e., closer to memory than to raw consciousness.

The fear of death, then, is one of the worst and most unnatural doctrines to have spewed out of the minds of oppressors, and if you weren't so afraid of death and hell, you wouldn't have much reason to join their camp.

The corresponding trouble with phrases like "akashic records" is because it makes a train wreck of the system of planes from original Theosophy, which are only copies or attempted translations of the Indian system. For example, the Puranas do not speak of an "emotional plane", but newer pseudo-Theosophical systems do. And then they go on to tell you how that is supposed to be paralyzed or killed. No Indian system tells you to kill off your emotions! That is so backwards, I think you could call it blasphemy.

So "fear of death" and "destroyed emotion" are both very dangerous principles.

Neither idea would get a moment's notice in India, but they are hardwired into almost everything known in the west.

We could say that Indian yoga is all about relief from *disturbing emotions*, and one thing that helps there is to ignore the ideas just mentioned.

It's not so much that the spiritual view is the lost property from before any cataclysm, but that western religion is a specific deviation, and then starting around the time of Newton, an additional kind of scientific deviation. All we are doing is removing those coats.

The discoverer, Dr. Crookes, called it "radiant matter" and mistakenly believed it was a stream of molecules instead of electrons.

He wound up going under the influence of mediums, but this is how he was discussed:


If Mr. Crookes would penetrate Arcana beyond the corridors the tools of modern science have already excavated, let him -- Try. He tried and found the Radiometer; tried again, and found Radiant matter; may try again and find the "Kama-rupa" of matter -- its fifth state. But to find it's Manas he would have to pledge himself stronger to secrecy than he seems inclined to.

Once separated from the common influences of Society, nothing draws us to any outsider save his evolving spirituality. He may be a Bacon or an Aristotle in knowledge, and still not even make his current felt a feather's weight by us, if his power is confined to the Manas. The supreme energy resides in the Buddhi; latent -- when wedded to Atman alone, active and irresistible when galvanized by the essence of "Manas" and when none of the dross of the latter commingles with that pure essence to weigh it down by its finite nature. Manas, pure and simple, is of a lower degree, and of the earth earthly: and so your greatest men count but as nonentities in the arena where greatness is measured by the standard of spiritual development.


Since his interest was lost, we pretty much spent the twentieth century going in Baconian directions, but, along with the recent confirmation about the LaGrange points, we can readily find several similar inquiries that are not fringe claims, but, coming from mainstream physics and medicine:


2023 experiments (https://noetic.org/blog/electrical-plasma/) showing that intention affects cheap plasma lamps.

Nova 2014 (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/physicists-say-consciousness-might-be-a-state-of-matter/), consciousness as a state of matter

McGinn 2012 (https://academic.oup.com/book/1758/chapter-abstract/141408450?redirectedFrom=fulltext), same, published by Oxford

Ma 2018 (https://philpapers.org/rec/MAPBD-4), Plasma Brain Dynamics

Adamski 2020 (https://medcraveonline.com/ATROA/ATROA-06-00108.pdf):

An important issue for science should also be the issue of bioplasma, which is particularly responsible for
human psychosomatic states.


That one is a good article to check out, just a few brief pages really, coming out with perhaps some new vocabulary such as Homo Electronicus.

He says "life is in quantum processes", which, from personal research, I found is true not just with respect to the brain, but even in the process of respiration. Does not matter if you are talking about a bacterium or your own bloodstream: in order for oxygen to penetrate a cellular membrane, it has to use the famous quantum tunneling.


Just to push the envelope, if you study the mechanics of wave propagation--such as solar radiation--you wind up using the "imaginary" number i, which is the square root of negative one, to make complex numbers. We have told ourselves for a long time that this is just a computational shortcut, where we could otherwise use gigantic and cumbersome piles of trigonometric functions. But just to clip the results from a couple of recent experiments, it strongly appears that in quantum mechanics, the complex number is essential (https://physicsworld.com/a/complex-numbers-are-essential-in-quantum-theory-experiments-reveal/). The normal way of using such a number for convenience:

https://physicsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Complex-equation.jpg



The time-dependent Schrödinger equation


In both cases the outcomes of these operations were shown to be impossible to predict accurately by real-number quantum theory.

If you can conduct this experiment, then you will have refuted real-number quantum physics...

...the difference between real and complex players’ performance could get as high as 43 standard deviations.



Neither the sun, your brain, or any life form, ever did a single thing without something that is impossible by any ordinary explanation...it is just a trick that it looks that way macroscopically. Such things are tricky to measure with instruments, but, subjectively, using the living organism as the measuring apparatus, one probably can approach the plasma as a type of bridge between bare space and manifestation, or mind and matter if you want to put it that way.

[shaberon]

it appears straight away for me, as well... the whole thing is quite a treat for the eyes + brain isn't it........ :)


Yes, it is a good example because so powerful.

It should then make sense that these two words are essentially the same:


Latin color, from Old Latin colos, from Proto-Indo-European *ḱel- (“to hide, conceal”)

Latin occultare ‘secrete’, frequentative of occulere ‘conceal’



Okay. We will get back to that in a moment. It is in this section from one of the Letters, which also involves insulting the European brain, and a description of sound. The principle referred to is similar to a pipe organ or even a flute, mixed with a considerable amount of magic. Also, the ancient Greeks thought that planets were pulled by "cords of air"--which perhaps is relevant to Music of the Spheres.

Sound is more subtle and complex, and lacks any convenient starting point such as Lilac Chaser.

When we get to vision, it will necessarily require weeding through some nineteenth-century terminology, then skip a century or so, and rejoin modern work, just as the case with plasma. The recipient of the letter came under the influence of mediums, like Dr. Crookes. Had that not been the case, we might not have lost track of what is rather valuably stashed in here:



"No Lama knows where the ber-chhen will hurt him until he puts it on," says a Tibetan proverb. However, let that pass, for I must tell you now that for opening "direct communication" the only possible means would be: (1) For each of us to meet in our own physical bodies. I being where I am, and you in your own quarters, there is a material impediment for me. (2) For both to meet in our astral form -- which would necessitate your "getting out" of yours, as well as my leaving my body. The spiritual impediment to this is on your part. (3) To make you hear my voice either within you or near you as "the old lady" does. This would be feasible in either of two ways: (a) My chiefs have but to give me permission to set up the conditions -- and this for the present they refuse; or (b) for you to hear my voice, i.e., my natural voice without any psycho-physiological tamasha being employed by me (again as we often do among ourselves). But then, to do this, not only have one's spiritual senses to be abnormally opened, but one must himself have mastered the great secret -- yet undiscovered by science -- of, so to say abolishing all the impediments of space; of neutralising for the time being the natural obstacle of intermediary
particles of air and forcing the waves to strike your ear in reflected sounds or echo. Of the latter you know as yet only enough to regard this as an unscientific absurdity. Your physicists, not having until recently mastered acoustics in this direction, any further than to acquire a perfect (?) knowledge of the vibration of sonorous bodies and of reverberations through tubes, may sneeringly ask: "Where are your indefinitely continued sonorous bodies, to conduct through space the vibrations of the voice?" We answer that our tubes, though invisible, are indestructible and far more perfect than those of modern physicists, by whom the velocity of the transmission of mechanical force through the air is represented as at the rate of 1,100 feet a second and no more -- if I mistake not. But then, may there not be people who have found more perfect and rapid means of transmission, from being somewhat better acquainted with the occult powers of air (akas) and having plus a more cultivated judgment of sounds? But of this we will argue later on.

There is still more serious inconvenience; an almost insurmountable obstacle -- for the present, and one, under which I myself am labouring, while even I do no more than correspond with you, a simple thing that any other mortal could do. It is my utter inability to make you understand my meaning in my explanation of even physical phenomena, let alone the spiritual rationale. This is not the first time I mention it. It is, as though a child should ask me to teach him the highest problems of Euclid before he had even begun studying the elementary rules of arithmetic. Only the progress one makes in the study of Arcane knowledge from its rudimental elements, brings him gradually to understand our meaning. Only thus, and not otherwise, does it, strengthening and refining those mysterious links of sympathy between intelligent men -- the temporarily isolated fragments of the universal Soul and the cosmic Soul itself -- bring them into full rapport. Once this established, then only will these awakened sympathies serve, indeed, to connect Man with -- what for the want of a European scientific word more competent to express the idea, I am again compelled to describe as that energetic chain which binds together the material and Immaterial Kosmos, -- Past, Present, and Future -- and quicken his perceptions so as to clearly grasp, not merely all things of matter, but of Spirit also. I feel even irritated at having to use these three clumsy words -- past, present and future! Miserable concepts of the objective phases of the Subjective Whole, they are about as ill adapted for the purpose as an axe for fine carving. Oh, my poor, disappointed friend, that you were already so far advanced on THE PATH, that this simple transmission of ideas should not be encumbered by the conditions of matter, the union of your mind with ours -- prevented by its induced incapabilities!

Such is unfortunately the inherited and self-acquired grossness of the Western mind; and so greatly have the very phrases expressive of modern thoughts been developed in the line of practical materialism, that it is now next to impossible either for them to comprehend or for us to express in their own languages anything of that delicate seemingly ideal machinery of the Occult Kosmos. To some little extent that faculty can be acquired by the Europeans through study and meditation but -- that's all. And here is the bar which has hitherto prevented a conviction of the theosophical truths from gaining wider currency among Western Nations; caused theosophical study to be cast aside as useless and fantastic by Western philosophers. How shall I teach you to read and write or even comprehend a language of which no alphabet palpable, or words audible to you have yet
been invented! How could the phenomena of our modern electrical science be explained to -- say, a Greek philosopher of the days of Ptolemy were he suddenly recalled to life -- with such an unbridged hiatus in discovery as would exist between his and our age?

Would not the very technical terms be to him an unintelligible jargon, an abracadabra of meaningless sounds, and the very instruments and apparatuses used, but "miraculous" monstrosities? And suppose, for one instant, I were to describe to you the hues of those colour rays that lie beyond the so-called "visible spectrum" -- rays invisible to all but a very few even among us; to explain, how we can fix in space any one of the so-called subjective or accidental colours -- the complement, (to speak mathematically) moreover, of any other given colour of a dichromatic body (which alone sounds like an absurdity), could you comprehend, do you think, their optical effect or even my meaning? And, since you see them not, such rays, nor can know them, nor have you any names for them as yet in Science, if I were to tell you: -- "My good friend Sinnett, if you please, without moving from your writing desk, try search for, and produce before your eyes the whole solar spectrum decomposed into fourteen prismatic colours (seven being complementary), as it is but with the help of that occult light that you can see me from a distance as I see you" . . . . what think you, would be your answer?

What would you have to reply? Would you not be likely enough to retort by telling me in your own quiet, polite way, that as there never were but seven (now three) primary colours, which, moreover, have never yet by any known physical process -- been seen decomposed further than the seven prismatic hues -- my invitation was as "unscientific" as it was "absurd"? Adding that my offer to search for an imaginary solar "complement" being no compliment to your knowledge of physical science -- I had better, perhaps, go and search for my mythical "dichromatic" and solar "pairs" in Thibet, for modern science has hitherto been unable to bring under any theory even so simple a phenomenon as the colours of all such dichromatic bodies. And yet -- truth knows -- these colours are objective enough!

So you see, the insurmountable difficulties in the way of attaining not only Absolute but even primary knowledge in Occult Science, for one situated as you are. How could you make your self understood -- command in fact, those semi-intelligent Forces, whose means of communicating with us are not through spoken words but through sounds and colours, in correlations between the vibrations of the two? For sound, light and colours are the main factors in forming these grades of Intelligences, these beings, of whose very existence you have no conception, nor are you allowed to believe in them -- Atheists and Christians, materialists and Spiritualists, all bringing forward their respective arguments against such a belief -- Science objecting stronger than either of these to such a "degrading superstition"!

Thus, because they cannot with one leap over the boundary walls attain to the pinnacles of Eternity; because we cannot take a savage from the centre of Africa and make him comprehend at once the Principia of Newton or the "Sociology" of Herbert Spencer; or make an unlettered child write a new Iliad in old Achaian Greek; or an ordinary painter depict scenes in Saturn or sketch the inhabitants of Arcturus -- because of all this our very existence is denied! Yes; for this reason are believers in us pronounced impostors and fools, and the very science which leads to the highest goal of the highest knowledge, to the real tasting of the Tree of Life and Wisdom -- is scouted as a wild flight of Imagination!



The easily or externally observed Dichromatic body (https://books.google.com/books?id=D75bAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PA120&dq=%22dichromatic%20body%22&pg=PA120#v=onepage&q=%22dichromatic%20body%22&f=false) as described in 1845 in relation to crystals showing two different colors when a prism is turned.




Dichroism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichroism) may have its reason as wavelength or polarity:


The original meaning of dichroic, from the Greek dikhroos, two-coloured, refers to any optical device which can split a beam of light into two beams with differing wavelengths.

In some crystals, such as tourmaline, the strength of the dichroic effect varies strongly with the wavelength of the light, making them appear to have different colours when viewed with light having differing polarizations.

Since the left- and right-handed circular polarizations represent two spin angular momentum (SAM) states, in this case for a photon, this dichroism can also be thought of as spin angular momentum dichroism and could be modelled using quantum mechanics.


4th century Lycurgus cup, backlit and frontlit:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Brit_Mus_13sept10_brooches_etc_046.jpg/360px-Brit_Mus_13sept10_brooches_etc_046.jpg


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Green_Lycurgus_Cup.jpg/408px-Green_Lycurgus_Cup.jpg





Accidental colour (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/accidental_colour):


(optics) A colour depending on the hypersensibility of the retina of the eye for complementary colours. They are purely subjective sensations of colour which often result from the contemplation of actually coloured bodies.


Benham's top (https://michaelbach.de/ot/col-Benham/) was a nineteenth-century toy, posted as a gif on a site that has numerous illusions. If you check that out, you will rapidly see colors that aren't there.

It is also effective with Moire' patterns. So there are plenty of devices that will induce you seeing subjective colors.


But any color must have a biological attribution. I can claim that the blue border on the sides of our posts "really is there", but it is only a frequency, and the being makes its own blue vision.

What turns out to be unusually demonstrable is that Newton's prismatic spectrum is only a special case.


Jordan 2013 (https://www.scielo.br/j/ea/a/vtsVgjMWKdM7t4TFMk9b5HL/?lang=en&format=pdf) is a dozen or so pages of lecture on how to make the experiments:


The experiments which show the two complementary images of the
spectrum, are the main entrance to not only Goethe's but also to any
other color studies.


Newton's prism appeared to be operating on a beam of light projected through a hole in a dark wall--but the prism is really projecting the wall as well. And so it carries or makes an inverted spectrum at the same time:

https://pscolour.eu/adhoc/vt/stick.png



That is from Sallstrom 2016 (https://pscolour.eu/adhoc/vt/inverted_spectra.htm):


Goethes experiments set the agenda: we have in principle four types of spectra, pairwise complementary, and there are infinitely many intermediate cases between the ideal extremes, due to geometrical conditions, such as relative distance from prism to picture etc.


From lecture at Basel 2017 (https://pscolour.eu/Basel/lecture.htm):


Farbenlehre, in Goethe's sense, comprises by necessity much more than the physical side I have been elucidating in this lecture. Studies within perception psychology have intricate phenomena to contribute, as have the history of art and aesthetics, to be sure. Farbenlehre is essentially an interdisciplinary realm of research.


Boundary colours (https://www.aetherforce.energy/goethe-and-the-boundary-colours-by-pehr-sallstrom/):

https://i0.wp.com/pscolour.eu/ad/GFiles/4spectra.png?resize=577%2C321&ssl=1


Ideal colours (https://pscolour.eu/ad/idealcols.htm) as followed by Schrodinger.

Those are all brief pages by the same author showing that physical light is already made of complimentary pairs. No need to copy that much from them, but they are worth exploring.

We were just previously told that we should be able to sit there and split fourteen colors out of the environment at will.

Lilac Chaser and similar illusions quickly prove that we can see such things, but, we do not really want to use them very much, if it is a natural ability that can be done unassisted.

Even Col. Olcott was trained in Visuddhimagga (https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/nanamoli/PathofPurification2011.pdf) which operates on the subjective side of this very principle. It uses colored Kasina disks. One may notice the Golden Dawn lifted these and re-branded them for their own purpose. It is for subjective visualization, and, as part of an ancient meditation tradition, it is considered a bit rude to simply appropriate them.

They cause you to subjectively visualize the complementary color, which, instead of appearing like a normal object, is found to have its own luminosity, and seems alive.

This is a bit backwards for me, since I discovered the clairvoyance naturally, before learning the training technique. This puts me in a position to say that it is not done because it is clever and interesting, it is destiny if one approaches reality. It is only one aspect, since simple discipline can reveal the hidden light, but there isn't any question about what western science and psychology may be slowly coming to terms with.

[jaybee]

.Are the Kordylewski Clouds actually the famed Akashic Records (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records) .............. quietly sitting there on our doorstep - ??


I would suggest something like the reverse of that.

First, Akashic Records is sort of a made-up phrase without any basis. "Akasa" simply means "Space", and the Theosophical phrase that inspired "akashic records" was "impressions on the astral light".

[post snipped - see #19]



we will have to agree to disagree

I'm going with Occam's Razor on this... if the Kordylewski Clouds have the complex properties and potential intelligence that Robert Temple talks about -

clip of the clip on my post 15....


If what these scientists are showing - and I for one think they are - is that the internal structures of the two clouds could be so complex , and at such a vast scale, then they surpass any possible human knowledge at this time.The storage capacity for information would easily include the ability to retain full knowledge of everything that has ever happened in our local cosmic environment for four billion years.


then I think it's highly likely that people who 'visit' what is traditionally called the Akashic Records... a place where everything is recorded / imprinted... go into the Kordylewski Clouds - maybe in their plasma bodies to read the plasma memory bank...

[jaybee]

.

Chapter 5 of Robert Temple's book - A New Science of Heaven - is about Ball Lightening -

on page 48 he says...


'......I am not necessarily suggesting that most ball lightening of the usual sort is intelligent, but it is also possible that some ball lightening phenomena are associated with intelligent entities, and are even 'plasmic drones' I say this because a minority of reports describe their behavior in such a way that suggests intelligent control of their movements, as they seem to be inspecting people and things, and also spotting, pursuing and entering aircraft in flight which presumably would be impossible for a mindless entity or one that was not remotely controlled by an intelligent entity as a probe...'


This short video (3:43) has footage of Ball Lightening - and at the beginning, the video creator recalls their contact with ball lightening when they were 13 yrs old - and they perceived it as having a mind and being alive...

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[arjunaloka_official]

Hypothesis:
The Akashic records are a level of consciousness / accessible from a certain level of consciousness and timeline-complete. Robert Monroe describes it as Focus 27. It is similar to what the Hindus call "infinite ocean of consciousness", or ritambhara prajna. It helps to be in a lucid state if you want to access it. Depending on your level of consciousness, you might or might not be able to store aspects of what you read in the Akashic records and transfer it to non-lucid states.

[shaberon]

we will have to agree to disagree

I'm going with Occam's Razor on this... if the Kordylewski Clouds have the complex properties and potential intelligence that Robert Temple talks about -


In that case, it is better that the disagreement is in the plasma, rather than about Akasha.

I don't really mean to exhibit any strong stance that the clouds are lacking in memory. Just that they are physical matter. Water can be said to have a memory; sometimes homeopathic substances are described this way. Dust would perhaps be similar to a hard drive.

So far, I have mostly replied from general background knowledge, so this is where I would get to the Temple book and see what is he saying or suggesting that may be new or different. And then it can perhaps be a bit confusing if we mostly talk about plasma as "radiant matter" but the Clouds are Dark and he also says it is a Cold Plasma.

They were optically verified by observational astronomers who weren't thinking about plasma. They were just looking for dust clouds, which happen to be quite faint.


The trouble with physics then is that Dark and Cold do not necessarily have conventional meanings. Dark Matter is not necessarily matter that is black, it is something that is unknown.

And there is a running argument between Relativity and Plasma Universe because they have very different meanings.

From the view of Relativity there is the following:


Black Holes are predicted.

Dark Matter is not necessarily predicted, it may be compatible, but its conditions for existence could also be satisfied by Classical Mechanics without needing Relativity.

Dark Energy comes from the cosmological constant that is in Relativity; if it is a better explanation for Redshift, then Dark Energy would be true, and if Redshift is explainable by something else, then there is no such thing. From a few responses on the role or necessity of Relativity (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/222275/relation-of-general-relativity-to-dark-matter-and-dark-energy):


...gravitational lensing requires General Relativity for doing the calculation and still Dark Matter is needed to explain the observations.


The Clouds are said to be either Dark Matter in its entirety, or, a form of Dark Matter. So far, Relativity is not necessary.


In terms of appearance (https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/dark-matter-could-it-be-plasma.69191/):


A plasma can in principle never be completely dark because there will be radiation emitted as the protons and electrons recombine. However, if the plasma is so dense and energetic that no individual atoms can form (like in the interior of the sun), then there won't be any recombination and radiation. Of course, towards the boundary of a plasma volume the density will become less, so there would be radiation from there, but if the plasma energy is very high (e.g. for very high masses of the plasma volume), the recombination probability becomes very small i.e. there won't be much radiation and the latter would anyway not be in the visible region but in the ultraviolet or x-ray and hence may be easily absorbed. So in this sense it is well possible that a large plasma mass at the center of galaxies might go undetected. Another point is that plasmas can be associated with currents and magnetic fields, which might explain for instance galactic rotation curves usually associated with dark matter.


Talk about something that radiates at its boundary (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/128396/is-the-plasma-state-always-visible):


https://i.stack.imgur.com/Ft296.jpg


In the heart of the Korean tokamak KSTAR, in operation since 2008, a plasma pulse burns brightly. But don't be fooled—the brightest areas of the photo are in fact the coolest. At 150 million °C (the temperature in the centre), the plasma doesn't emit in the spectrum of visible light.


Remember that plasma is a phenomenon of both high temperature and low pressure. Plasmas are ionized fluids, which occur either when the temperature is so high compared to atomic ionization energies, or when the fluid is so diffuse that charged particles are unlikely ever to find each other.

A common tool in ordinary vacuum systems is the cold cathode pressure gauge, which measures the pressure by measuring the conductivity of the residual gas. This sort of highly diffuse plasma is invisible.

Of course you knew that already: this is the type of plasma that makes up the interplanetary and interstellar medium, which is quite transparent.


So this would be the Diffuse (https://www.quora.com/What-is-black-plasma) variety:


This is the mode of plasma when it is basically invisible. Take an example of the solar wind, which is mostly invisible, although it becomes the Aurora when its energy causes gases to glow in the atmosphere. Stars are an example of ‘arc’ plasma and solar Corona and nebulae are generally ‘glow' mode plasma.

Dark plasma accounts from most of the plasma in the universe. Until recently it was difficult to map or image, but modern detectors and telescopes are building increasingly detailed images of the Cosmic (or InterGalactic) Web. It is a massive mesh of Birkeland current filaments which links all galaxies in a vast network.

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8220e55b68328c249ac9c444b0fda8d9


By some clever imaging we can see a slice of cosmic Web, with light spots for each galaxy or galactic cluster. Not hard to figure this is all an enormous electrical system, which is self generating. The filaments themselves are all rotating thus providing the electro-inductive electricity needed to light the stars.



Baylor U. (https://www.baylor.edu/casper/index.php?id=965424) takes that pretty seriously:


It is now universally agreed that the majority of the universe is composed of dust. As such, most environments both on Earth and in space, contain dust in the form of solid or liquid particles with this cosmic dust crucial to the development of stars, planets and life.

NASA discusses the Dust making Grains (https://history.nasa.gov/SP-345/ch15.htm) in a massive write-up of Evolution of the Solar System.

Cold Dust in Cassiopeia A (https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1086/382653/pdf)

Interacting with a white dwarf in Herculis binary systems (https://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1989ApJ...345..978B)




The Sun (https://www.space.com/sun-dark-plasma-far-side-storm) erupts it:


Spaceweather reports that this "dark plasma" is not dark in the sense that dark matter or dark energy are; rather, this plasma is cooler and less luminous than the background sun and denser than gas surrounding it in the sun's atmosphere.


The earth is actually in a Veil (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/120126-solar-storm-cold-plasma-earth-space-science):


Clouds of "cold plasma" reach from the top of Earth's atmosphere to at least a quarter the distance to the moon...



The stuff is commonly used as a disinfectant (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3808546/):


Cold atmospheric-pressure plasmas are currently in use in medicine as surgical tools and are being evaluated for new applications, including wound treatment and cosmetic care. The disinfecting properties of plasmas are of particular interest, given the threat of antibiotic resistance to modern medicine. Plasma effluents comprise (V)UV photons and various reactive particles, such as accelerated ions and radicals, that modify biomolecules; however, a full understanding of the molecular mechanisms that underlie plasma-based disinfection has been lacking. Here, we investigate the antibacterial mechanisms of plasma...

Cold plasmas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonthermal_plasma) wind up having different names for different kinds.

They are used in foodservice.

A plasma can be "dark" and "radiant" by radiating Ultraviolet.

In the upper atmosphere it makes ozone.

Down here it stops bacteria and is extremely harmful to almost every kind of organism there is.

Dark Plasma is both vital for its impulse and absolutely deadly.

If Dust explains Redshift by causing "Tired Light" or something like that, then, the cosmological constant of Relativity is axed.

Obviously the light radiated from colored plasmas does not hurt you and is generally considered pleasing.

Memories of forms use the visible spectrum.

Memories of sounds do not.

You can have a Dark Plasma without dust, but it appears unlikely or rare to have dust without plasma.

Some Dark Plasma is just not that bright because it is not fully ionized, and other kinds are basically invisible because they emit UV.

This is the part that is new to me. It has been said for a while that the cosmos is a sea of dust, that almost all observable matter is radiant plasma, and there still seems to be some kind of Dark Matter much more than that. Lots of research went towards neutrinos in this regard, however, Dark Plasma appears to be riding on all that.

They need to establish set names for the different kinds.

It obviously is a dark energy, but that name is already in use.

Fire may or may not generate plasma; if it does:

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-faa1daad6a9d1706bbaa0f5bfaadc26b-lq




All I claim to be familiar with is unearthly modes of light.

How these different plasma effects work is an outer knowledge that I can conceive is highly related. I don't have any better idea about the mechanism than anyone else--I would tend to agree it may be a more useful field for continued research, as opposed to resting on the laurels of Relativity from ca. 1910.

[shaberon]

Here is why this is a bit confusing and out of tune to us. First considering this accidental detection by the CIA 1972 (https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000500250024-6.pdf) when they were more interested in telekinesis and so i. e., weaponizable practices rather than medicine.

You can't copy off that page but you can from Archive (https://ia802708.us.archive.org/18/items/CIA-RDP96-00787R000500250024-6/CIA-RDP96-00787R000500250024-6_text.pdf):


By the 1960s research on bioluminescence revealed by Kirlian photography was going on in many Soviet universities. Perfected techniques of photographing the play of high-frequency currents on humans,
plants and animals, as well as on inaminate matter have set the
Soviets on some striking discoveries about the energetical nature
of man. "Bio-plasma" is a term coined by the Soviets for bioluminescent phenomenon or energy. Scientists at the Kazakh State
University at Alma-ata have found that illnesses tend to show up
in advance as a disordered play of flares from the bio-plasma
long before they manifest in the physical body.


Doctor A. Podshibyakin, an electrophysiologist at the
Institute of Clinical Physiology in Kiev, has found that by charting
acupuncture points a correlation exists between the "bio-plasma"
and changes on the surface of the sun. At the exact moment solar
flares (sun spots) occur, there are changes in the electrical
potential of the skin's acupuncture points. These electrical
charges are measured by a tobiscope (probably a simple wheatstone
bridge device). In some way, the "bio-plasma" of the body is
sensitive to these solar explosions the instant they occur even
though it takes about two days for the cosmic particles to reach
the earth.



That is about all they say about something that must have been pretty widespread and open, in this, to us, restricted foreign country.

The ideas manage to creep out into a conference in Europe 1977 (https://www.academia.edu/80808901/The_Utility_of_Bioelectronics_and_the_Bioplasma_Concept_in_the_Study_of_the_Biological_Terrain).


And in the west generally we have only just established the "proof of concept" stage, according to Deepak Chopra and others as described in the medical journal Global Advances 2015 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4654779/):


Evidence for the existence of the biofield now exists, and current theoretical foundations are now being developed. A review of the biofield and related topics from the perspective of physical science is needed to identify a common body of knowledge and evaluate possible underlying principles of origin of the biofield. The properties of such a field could be based on electromagnetic fields, coherent states, biophotons, quantum and quantum-like processes, and ultimately the quantum vacuum. Given this evidence, we intend to inquire and discuss how the existence of the biofield challenges reductionist approaches and presents its own challenges regarding the origin and source of the biofield, the specific evidence for its existence, its relation to biology, and last but not least, how it may inform an integrated understanding of consciousness and the living universe.



Although the original work was easily known in India 2012 (https://www.speakingtree.in/blog/breathing-charges):


In a book long scientific paper published by the State University of Kazakhstan,"The Biological Essence of kirlian Effect" they described their research into the living "Energy Body":


"The bioluminescence in the Kirlian pictures is caused by the bioplasma,not the eletrical state of the organism.one of the most distinctive feaures of the vibrating,colorful energy body in all livings things is that it has a specific spatial organization."


In the photos shown by Soviet scientists it is evident that if part of the physical body of a living thing is cut away,the "bioplasmin body" remains,whole and clearly visiable in a high-frequency field.When this enegry body itself disappears,the plant or the animal dies.


"There is a strict ratio between the physical and the energy body",that Kazakh scientists reported."the energy of any living thing is made up of energy from its physical cells and the more mobile enrgy of bioplasma"..say scientists Inyushin,Grishchenko,and their colleagues.


What generates this bioplasmic energy?How do we replenish our energy body?The Kazakh Sceintistis discoverd its's the oxygen we breath that converts some of its surplus electrons and a certain quantum of energy into the enrgy body.In the silent high-frequency discharge,they could actually see this process as it occurred.


"Breathing..Charges'


Breathin- g.it seems,charges the entire bioplasmic body and renews our reserves of vital energy and helps to equalize disturbed energy patterns.Of couse,the Indian phiosophy of yoga has always maintained that breathing charges the whole body with "vital force" or "prana" and yoga prescribes specific breathing exercises for good health.


The biologists at the Kazakh State University began to understand why berathing ionized air has "a high medicinal effect for many kinds of disease".


Many Diseases were shown to begin when the supply of bioplasma deteriorated,the Soviets say.Soviets found even spraying a wound with ionized air would greatly speed healing as the negative ions healped restore the plasmic body to equilibrium.


osho said "if you observe the breath 48 minutes continuously then you will understand the truth".


This exact thing is then tied to the idea of Chakras (https://books.google.com/books?id=RT81EAAAQBAJ&lpg=PA56&dq=bioplasma%20bioluminosity&pg=PA56#v=onepage&q=bioplasma%20bioluminosity&f=false).


Very recently a device has been invented in Romania (https://sciendo.com/article/10.2478/picbe-2019-0003) using infra-red, radar, and electrophotography so you can mostly self-repair and "avoid going to a doctor for every reason".



So we are behind the curve, not putting serious research into the thing for fifty years. The Romanian claim is that with a properly-tuned aura you live a long time comfortably.

This "updates" molecular biology (the theory that you are governed by chemical reactions) and electro-biology (the theory that processes are driven by ordinary electrical currents). Not saying they don't exist but they are incomplete.

Plasma is a fractal from the scale of the inter-galactic braids of dust to sub-atomic processes in our bodies. It's not "math" as an abstract subject, it actually is plasma, which operates in a mathematical way.


Now, of course, we can understand that Big Medicine does not want you to figure out your own aura, because then doctors wouldn't have 90% of anything to do, and then maybe they could study medicine. No type of aura training is really going to help if you break your arm, and that is what the doctor is for, more like a medic than an industry that profits from cheating you out of your aura.


We don't have facilities and equipment that make this an everyday thing, yet, but there are a few clever people who wind up asking some of the right questions. If I am coming from a type of bias from personal experience that tells me there is at least something about electricity and light that is much more powerful in the human being than the ordinary focus on molecular forms, I don't really know how to translate this into operating mechanics in a scientifically useful way.

It looks like a good step has been put forward to do this by a personal site, Photonic Human (http://photonichuman.iwarp.com/whats_new_13.html):



Hypothesis: human microvibrations are transduced from, analogous to and/or resonantly entrained to micropulsations in the common plasma medium. Bioelectronic processes may be treated as a plasma state within the solid state of organic compounds.

The heart is our own pulsing center as the sun is that of the solar system. In The Heart’s Code, Paul Pearsall, PhD (1998) points out that “simple physics tells us that energy and information leave the body and go out into space. It reaches our loved ones and our pets and plants, it extends to the sky, and, yes, logically, the electromagnetic field expands into the “vacuum” of space at the speed of light, 186,000 miles per second. Though the signal strength will obviously be very tiny, each second after our heart beats our individual heart’s code has expanded and travelled 186,000 miles into space, through space forever.” (p. xi-xii) In this sense, perhaps we are immortal. However, waves from space also impinge upon us.

“As Above, So Below;

EM waves are our primary means of knowing and viewing the universe. We are integral products of our environment, an embedded lattice of pulsating, vibrating energy. What happens in the solar system, our electromagnetic environment, and at our cellular level are all intimately related. The classic Hermetic axiom, “As above; So below” reiterates the nonlinear fractal unfoldment of self-similar organization at different scales of magnitude, from cosmic to subatomic.


Because Earth is in a Veil, it winds up working like a big drum, it keeps getting struck by something and passing a vibration of something towards the surface where we are:




The magnetosphere itself functions as a resonant cavity and wave guide for waves that propagate through the system. These cavities resonate at discrete frequencies many of which have biological effects. The relation of magnetospheric micropulsations (Alven waves and SR) appears correlated with diurnal, circadian and other psychophysical rhythms in the human organism, in particular microvibrations.

From an energy medicine perspective, the heart is the most powerful electromagnetic organ serving important regulatory functions. An ongoing dialogue takes place between heart and brain. The heart’s EM field extends 12 to15 feet beyond the body, 50 times more powerful than the brain’s EEG signals.

The heart is our most powerful organ.
The heart responds directly to the environment.
The heart is the conductor of the energy of the body’s cells.
The heart is a dynamic system.
The heart is the body’s primary organizing force.
The heart resonates with information-containing energy.
The heart is the body system’s core.
The heart speaks and sends information.
All hearts exchange information with all other hearts and brains. (Pearsall)

Every cell in the body is linked by electromagnetic contact with the toroidal-shaped magnetic field of the heart, mirroring the relationship of Earth with its organisms. Heart rate mediates stress response and balance of the relaxation response. The connective tissue matrix, with it semiconducting and liquid crystal holographic structure, resonates with these field changes.

Cells are fractals embedded in a holographic energetic matrix that extends beyond the skin boundary. The body is an energetic event, a self-organizing electromagnetically unified matrix. The living matrix continuum or tissue tensegrity matrix reaches inside each and every cell, all systematically interconnected parts of the body, even more so than the nervous system.

Plasma is a source of all types of waves, which feed back on the plasma and display mutual correlation. The manifestations of life may be ultimately summarized in terms of plasma and radiation. The secret of life lies in process control through small energy and with minimal noise. Plasma can be controlled only through fields, in particular magnetic fields.

The plasma approach to life points out that life is electric, however, its control takes place magnetically. Plasma is revealed by the emission of an electromagnetic field and is obedient only to this field, even a very weak one. The electronic processes of metabolism may be treated as a plasma state within the solid state of organic compounds.

Plasma -- the fundamental background for the processes of life -- is maintained in a constantly agitated state of generation and decay. This magnetohydrodynamic controlled state is correlated with metabolic process, such as anabolism-catabolism and oxidation. It is notably related to physiological currents and weakly luminescent effects (biophotons; bioluminescence).

Sedlak (1993) discusses how a living organism is both an information detector and generator and a transformer of electromagnetic energy. Biological systems generate their own magnetic mediums or plasma fields. A plasma responds to magnetic and electric fields, acoustic waves, mechanical action, gravitational fields, and temperature; in addition to depending on chemical composition. Plasma is the ideal carrier system of information within living organisms because it alters its own state with exceptional selectivity and responsiveness.

The biosemiconductor, together with the drift of charges, ions, and radicals, may be considered as a form of "bioplasma". Bioplasma may be subject to magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) control. The EM fields emitted by trained healers may be considered as coherent, resonant biomagnetic emissions by which a less coherent EM field of the patient is "tuned" to the specific frequency and phase, and through which homeostasis can be "aligned" to induce "healing".“ (Roffey)



You can't do anything about the constant throughput of signals, you can only navigate it.

It sounds to me a lot like the choice why a spiritual tradition would teach that the Heart is the seat of consciousness, including emotion, and why you want to shed disturbing emotion. There is more in that article that would support this.

The end of it sounds like using machines to imitate Mesmer.

I would very nearly put it in Absolute terms, that whatever can be learned to make this work properly is the Truth, and anything that does not is a Lie. One can give true facts all day and it can still be a Lie because it is damaging to the harmony.

The research even suggested an "invisible" quantum connection to the sun by the aura's instantaneous mirror imaging. No medium of exchange. The effect of the given Rays comes later.

[wegge]

Thanks Jaybee for starting the thread!

I'm also quite blown away from the whole Plasma thing, especially since I've been totally ignorant of it until last week.

I've finished Robert's book now, but I have to say it's quite something to digest and I'll need a second run. I've now also ordered his book "Open to suggestion" which he says the CIA tried to suppress.

A very interesting synchronicity for me personally was his mentioning of Tesla and his "plasma events" which he speculates might stem from Tesla being not insulated enough from his plasma body. He references this part of Tesla's autobiography:

"I was about twelve years old when I first succeeded in banishing an image from my vision by wilful effort, but I never had any control over the flashes of light to which I have referred. They were, perhaps, my strangest experience and inexplicable. They usually occurred when I found myself in a dangerous or distressing situation, or when I was greatly exhilarated. In some instances I have seen all the air around me filled with tongues of living flame. Their intensity, instead of diminishing, increased with time and seemingly attained a maximum when I was about twenty-five years old. While in Paris, in 1883, a prominent French manufacturer sent me an invitation to a shooting expedition which I accepted.
I had been long confined to the factory and the fresh air had a wonderfully invigorating effect on me. On my return to the city that night I felt a positive sensation that my brain had caught fire. I saw a light as tho a small sun was located in it and I past the whole night applying cold compressions to my tortured head. Finally the flashes diminished in frequency and force but it took more than three weeks before they wholly subsided. When a second invitation was extended to me my answer was an emphatic NO! These luminous phenomena still manifest themselves from time to time, as when a new idea opening up possibilities strikes me, but they are no longer exciting, being of relatively small intensity.

When I close my eyes I invariably observe first, a background of very dark and uniform blue, not unlike the sky on a clear but starless night. In a few seconds this field becomes animated with innumerable scintillating flakes of green, arranged in several layers and advancing towards me. Then there appears, to the right, a beautiful pattern of two systems of parallel and closely spaced lines, at right angles to one another, in all sorts of colors with yellow-green and gold predominating. Immediately thereafter the lines grow brighter and the whole is thickly sprinkled with dots of twinkling light.

This picture moves slowly across the field of vision and in about ten seconds vanishes to the left, leaving behind a ground of rather unpleasant and inert grey which quickly gives way to a billowy sea of clouds, seemingly trying to mould themselves in living shapes. It is curious that I cannot project a form into this grey until the second phase is reached. Every time, before falling asleep, images of persons or objects flit before my view. When I see them I know that I am about to lose consciousness. If they are absent and refuse to come it means a sleepless night."

Yesterday I've also come across this brilliant interview with Joseph P. Farrell (https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-higherside-chats-27046/episodes/dr-joseph-p-farrell-giza-death-173931449), who is about to publish his plasma book in September. He says that plasma ties together many of the topics he's written about, like the great pyramid being a weapon and also the infamous Nazi Bell/Glocke.


One of the things I'm currently pondering is how to use this whole plasma understanding for personal growth. In the beginning of Robert's interview with Jay he mentions that plasma research is merely the modern corroboration of what the ancients have been saying, and that plasma is essentially Chi. So I regard my personal Qi Gong practice as anyways a good step in that regard.

Then I got another intuitive hit, and that the radiant luminous colors might play a role, maybe in a kind of visualization technique. If anyone has any more ideas, please let me know ;)

[wegge]

PS:

in the book Robert also mentions biophoton research (not the same as bioluminescence) and that the only place in Europe is in Leiden/Netherlands where it's researched.

I think this is the same place that water researcher Dolf Zantinge (https://analemma-water.com/) does his research. Giving structured and regular tap water to plants and then measuring the impact on their biophotons.

In a private conversation he told me that biophoton research is more mainstream in China and they cooperate with several universities there, which I found highly interesting as well.

[jaybee]

[post snipped see above #26]

Yesterday I've also come across this brilliant interview with Joseph P. Farrell (https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-higherside-chats-27046/episodes/dr-joseph-p-farrell-giza-death-173931449), who is about to publish his plasma book in September. He says that plasma ties together many of the topics he's written about, like the great pyramid being a weapon and also the infamous Nazi Bell/Glocke.


One of the things I'm currently pondering is how to use this whole plasma understanding for personal growth. In the beginning of Robert's interview with Jay he mentions that plasma research is merely the modern corroboration of what the ancients have been saying, and that plasma is essentially Chi. So I regard my personal Qi Gong practice as anyways a good step in that regard.

Then I got another intuitive hit, and that the radiant luminous colors might play a role, maybe in a kind of visualization technique. If anyone has any more ideas, please let me know ;)

:thumbsup:

very interesting quote you shared from the Tesla autobiography... he was so advanced with his thinking and inventions he had to be accessing something / somewhere deeper than what most people can -

thanks for the Joseph P Farrell interview - will register to that site and watch it soon...

re what you said about chi and your Qi Gong practice... if you haven't already seen this short video prepare to have your mind blown :)... and your chakras excited... DJ (name invented for the Chi Master in it) must be building up, controlling and using the plasma within his own body - he explains @ 1:13 that he uses the positive energy around his naval with the negative energy around the base of his spine to 'get like electricity'

(thanks to member Szymon who brought this video to my attention in another thread a while back)

He can even set paper on fire with the (plasma) energy (@1:52)- he builds up the intensity so strong for that - it must be like the sun momentarily .. . he can switch the (plasma) energy on and off and modulate it... unfortunately something happened at end of video when he pushed a chop stick through a table and his long dead Master was not pleased and chastised him - he disappeared and was never interviewed again... but just the 10 minutes or so we have is enough to alter perception and change lives....


Chi Kung Master Burns Paper With His Hand - John Chang

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[Ernie Nemeth]

This thread has made an impact on me.

It has caused some turmoil in my mind. Therre is something about the topic that draws me to it.

Having a problem with God as a sentient being, these clouds narrow the scope of my understandings. God exists as a template that all gods fit into. And that is why God has forsaken me. Because I refused the entreaties of lesser gods and insisted on 'The God or no god'. So, I got 'no god'.

How was I supposed to know that our god is a little god? Or that my rebuke of all little gods would be taken as an insult?

But in the process I forsook my heritage. The video above is a small sampling of what our powers truly are.
I have used those powers that I call wild magic, in honor of the Thomas Covenant series of books.
Wild Magic, neither good nor bad. Wielded by becoming a conduit of the natural force of life that surrounds and suffuses us.

If only god had not been misrepresented, I could have had the proper mindset with the correct parameters. But god had to be made 'larger than life' to encompass all the universe, which is impossible. Not only impossible but improbable, leading to incorrect ordering of the 'principles' that guide comprehension. Being open-ended, comprehension never arrives but is always lacking and therefore confusing.

I will go to the grave chastised and ostracized by my own will. All I can do now is beg for forgiveness, which will not come. I forsook my maker because I looked too far beyond our god's scope, ranging in alien realms I had no business entering without the proper gestalt in place within my mind.

I looked far and wide for our god when all the while god was right there above my head, closer than the moon. A little god, but a proud and sure god with love for all it has created.

Sorry about that, my little god.

Funny, god seems to be happy with this post, and the non-capitalization of its name.

[jaybee]

[post snipped see above #29]


I looked far and wide for our god when all the while god was right there above my head, closer than the moon. A little god, but a proud and sure god with love for all it has created.

Sorry about that, my little god.

Funny, god seems to be happy with this post, and the non-capitalization of its name.

I got kundalini waves reading your post which I perceive as affirmative - thanks for those deep thoughts..... funny thing is you have verbalized something I was thinking the other day.... but I held back for the time being because I had already made a suggestion that the (Kordylewski) Clouds could be the Akashic Records :) but something was pushing me within myself to go further and I did actually think - - - could they be God? - or as you have speculated - god - a 'little' god but our god - one that is real and present and has rules of creation, physicality, science, geometry, crystals and more - actually - at this stage of the whole shebang knowable... up to a point while in this physical body...

The creator (of which we are probably an active part in some way... refining and purifying and creating life ourselves)........the creator could be much closer than we ever thought - and there might be a fractually bigger one a bit further away.........*.....*......*......*

I'm getting thoughts and feelings that I can't express at the moment so I will leave it there for now....

beautiful post Ernie :thumbsup:

:shooting star:

:sun:

.

[arjunaloka_official]

All I can do now is beg for forgiveness, which will not come.

How could a father with infinite love not ultimately forgive the finite errors of one of his sons?

[shaberon]

Then I got another intuitive hit, and that the radiant luminous colors might play a role, maybe in a kind of visualization technique. If anyone has any more ideas, please let me know ;)



Yes, completely so.

It sounds like Tesla had an uncontrolled, untrained experience of it.


In what I might call an abstract way, it is used in Visuddhimagga (https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/nanamoli/PathofPurification2011.pdf).

The same principle is also the basis for Mahayana meditation, which is more of a commitment.

All Kabalistic and Gnostic doctrines of Emanation are based on the same principle, using a color and a sound.

The Sanskrit alphabet is exactly this.


The next thing that I am going to do--which may seem a little strange--is take Mahayana Buddhism and use it as a conduit for the original and real meaning of the Vedas.

First we have to complain that India has used a lot of her own experts to blot out the original idea, and that getting in league with western experts has in fact made this go much worse. So in the west we see that plasma medical research has been housed at U. Leiden and that is about it.

Well, we need this human and cosmic plasma research to be the new expert that really does help sort out the metaphysical misunderstanding in India.

Buddhism is not anti-Hinduism, it is anti-whatever has gotten messed up about it. Such as caste. The original idea that caste is based on your karma says that as you grow up, you naturally gravitate towards some kinds of work more than others. The idea that it means you are born and locked into something, is an example of a later change.


The main thing that we want to sort out, which is exactly related to Plasma Universe, is Horse Sacrifice.


The literal interpretation which for example Dayanand Sarasvati would like us to believe, is about mighty kings decapitating animals, and using their power to dominate new subjects, which is because the Aryans are a superior race of horseriders, who overwhelmed, and of course provided true religion to, aboriginals.

Let us say the horse may have been unknown during the initial composition of the Vedas, and may have been allowed to become a symbol.

That establishes a chronology, because it is fairly simple for archaeological strata to establish that the modern horse was bred in the Russian plains ca. 2,000 B. C. E., and over about a thousand years period, it spread across all trading routes from Siberia to Spain, and the remaining populations of wild horses died out.

What is in the Vedas is not really the horse, but rice. And it can just as easily been found that rice was domesticated in the Gangetic plain in the Stone Age, while wheat was domesticated in Anatolia. Wheat spread eastward but kind of stopped when it got to India. There is no wheat to be found anywhere in the Vedas. The related commentarial material refers to it, by way of rejection.

So the Vedas are originally based in an Indian rice culture, and what has gotten missing from the teaching about the Horse is because it is a personal or subjective experience of the Photonic Individual, or Homo Electricus, of course for spiritual purposes so you do not get disoriented like Tesla.


In a political sense, India was thrown topsy-turvy by the British Lord MacCaulay and the translator Max Mueller, who at least said his work was conjecture. The British had a strategy to dig up "something Indian" and feed it back to the nation, so they would feel like they were really Indians I guess. And so for example they took up the Laws of Manu and used it to justify British-based caste legalism. However there is no historical evidence that the Laws were ever applied, that if anything it may be a type of guidebook, which would not support that meaning of caste anyway.


The Horse Sacrifice is politically inverted, because at most:


In Shatpath Brahmana (13.1.6) it is stated "Rashtram va asvamedhah"
i.e. asvamedha means to manage or run the affairs of the rashtra
(country) in a befitting manner.




And that is hardly the subject or meaning.

I have seen a few articles that go a bit far with this approach, such as to begin assigning things that are in the Vedas to things like Quark Spin or Dark Matter, and we can't be sure this is accurate or useful yet.

One would have to start with the basics, and here is a good start from the recently-published Asvamedha (https://www.motilalbanarsidass.com/en-us/products/the-asvamedha) by Dr. Kak of L. S. U.:




...the a´svamedha, the so-called horse sacrifice, which actually represented
the transcendence by the king of time in its metaphorical representation as
horse. The primary meaning of a´sva as the sun is attested to in the R. gveda,
Nirukta, and Satapatha Br¯ ´ ahman. a.



The horse in Indian mythology stands for the Sun. The sea is taken to be it's stable and its birthplace. This reference is to the primal "waters" surrounding the earth from which the Sun emerges every day.

The Asvamedha is the sacrifice of the annual renewal of the Sun at the New Year and that of the accompanying renewal of the king's rule. At the spiritual level, it is a celebration to get reconnected to the inner Sun.

Of the principal animals conceived within the body, the horse represents time. The horse sacrifice is then the most mystical and powerful because it touches upon the mystery of time, which carries within it the secret of immortality.

The sacrifice of the animals is the enactment of the killing of the mortal lower self for a transformation into the immortal higher self. Since the higher self cannot manifest itself without the lower one, one must settle for something less, a ritual rebirth of the individual. In other words, sacrifice deals with the mastery of time.

From here, the next step is the cause of time or the Sun. The Rgveda (1.163.2) says that the horse is symbolic of the Sun.



So it is not a blood sacrifice whatsoever. For any type of ritual act, you would use nuts or rice or something like that, and the main meaning is about transformation of the inner individual.

It is largely about the Sun, particularly in the sense of visible and invisible suns. It is not a superstition, and if one of the scientific findings seems to be closely related, it is that bioplasma is recharged by oxygen. The Vedic material is along the lines that it is not just a bilateral relation of man to sun, but, an environmentally-conditioned throughput, pretty much the same as plasma has been found to operate.


A birthright priest caste giving a distorted teaching on this is much like the CIA thinking that psi-research is only of value for weapons.

The real Vedic way of understanding the Sun is the personal and subjective version of what mere moments ago, science accepted as the main motor of a person, combined with quantum physics and astronomical observations.

Correspondingly, yes, yoga practices are based in a type of living light as explained that way.

I am speaking for that as a witness, having done such things, it is not a theory. In actuality it is probably more important than ordinary waking consciousness.






It was mentioned recently that sometimes ball lightning seems to be telepathically responsive.


I am going to copy what I posted as Lightning Deity (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90069-Lightning-Deity), and its picture on a very dark night:


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=33378&d=1461614048



This happened one summer when I was studying Prajna-paramita for the umpteenth time.

Everyone has seen storms with massive amounts of lightning. I wouldn't bother to write down something like that; this incident was almost exactly opposite. I haven't found a similar story yet.

Most people are familiar with "heat lightning", a non-striking flash usually seen during warmer months. I found out that this is correctly termed intra-cloud lightning, and represents the majority of lightning activity. Most lightning just zaps around inside clouds, and when those are big, puffy storm clouds, you usually won't even notice it, and so heat lightning is usually associated with a fairly clear sky.

So, at first, it was just a regular thing: strong wind builds up and a few minutes later, you get a bunch of rain. This storm only lasted about ten minutes, the wind died down, and there was hardly any rain.

That's when I started noticing pulses of heat lightning, but I wasn't looking. I was just sitting inside, but every window was filling with light. You could look out the window and outside, the pulses made the entire visible area--much brighter than on a clear day.

That started to get my attention, and as I watched, the flickering stopped. That is, the "off" phase of the flickering stopped. It stayed "on" as if the whole sky was a giant fluorescent lightbulb--much brighter than on a clear day.

It just kept staying "on", so what do I decide to do...anything safe, no...I went outside to take it face first, telling myself that all it can really do is kill me faster than I can blink, and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.

That's when it started to descend and "talk to me".

There were approximately six nodes in the cloud where this bolt of lightning was basically just cruising around in a big circle. You could hear it like a spark plug or live wire. It slowly descended to the bottom face of the cloud. I'm stupidly watching this thing starting to juggle lightning hops in mid-air, it's very seriously close, and I just gawk at it in a telepathic communion, part of which is saying I won't even get mad if it decides to electrocute me.

This effect stayed in one place in the middle of my yard, continuously lighting the whole area brighter than a clear day, for at least 45 minutes. Once it started poking through the bottom face of the cloud, it continued to descend, until I was watching what I could only describe as: a tornado of lightning. It was a point-down spinning cone of electricity doing nothing but dropping lower and lower. Practically right in my face. Probably the wildest thing I have ever seen.

I wasn't able to actually be afraid of it, because it didn't seem interested in my telepathic offer to remove my existence. Moreso, it confirmed the truth of Prajna-paramita and some of the personal issues I was having at the time.

It clocked in pretty close to a full hour of the giant lightbulb; then once the tornado visited it simply...retreated back into the cloud. Then a gentle breeze started to push it out of my yard, and a few minutes later there was a massive blast less than a mile away.

I'm guessing I'm not the only one who has ever seen this, but so far I have not heard anything else that sounds like it.

[wegge]

Then I got another intuitive hit, and that the radiant luminous colors might play a role, maybe in a kind of visualization technique. If anyone has any more ideas, please let me know ;)


This effect stayed in one place in the middle of my yard, continuously lighting the whole area brighter than a clear day, for at least 45 minutes. Once it started poking through the bottom face of the cloud, it continued to descend, until I was watching what I could only describe as: a tornado of lightning. It was a point-down spinning cone of electricity doing nothing but dropping lower and lower. Practically right in my face. Probably the wildest thing I have ever seen.

I wasn't able to actually be afraid of it, because it didn't seem interested in my telepathic offer to remove my existence. Moreso, it confirmed the truth of Prajna-paramita and some of the personal issues I was having at the time.

It clocked in pretty close to a full hour of the giant lightbulb; then once the tornado visited it simply...retreated back into the cloud. Then a gentle breeze started to push it out of my yard, and a few minutes later there was a massive blast less than a mile away.

I'm guessing I'm not the only one who has ever seen this, but so far I have not heard anything else that sounds like it.

thank you for your recommendations.

Unfortunately I have to bring in another name, whom I've discovered on this Plasma Journey. I also found him, like Joseph Farrell, being interviewed on the Higherside Chats. He's also been referenced in this thread and a joint video of him and Jay Weidner (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108337-REALiTY-CHeCK-with-Jay-Weidner&p=1522348&viewfull=1#post1522348) (I think they've co-founded Gaia TV?) has been posted. The actual thread that spawned this one here.

Dan Winter. He's a super deep nerd and fast talker, I needed several interviews and read into a book from him to get his main points and the language he uses.. so it's definitely possible to get into that, and at that point quite poetic in a sense.

He has an actual plasma device (https://theraphi.net/) which seems to work (and looks great). Also curious if anyone of you has any input on that. I've seen a German couple not too far away from where I live working with this device and offering sessions (even remote) so I might check it out at one point.

Furthermore, Shaberon, Dan talks about shamans being able to steer/take over hurricanes. And that actually many elementals are said that humans ignore them and they'd be happy to interact more with them. I feel that this might be relevant for the experience you described :)

[jaybee]

Unfortunately I have to bring in another name, whom I've discovered on this Plasma Journey. I also found him, like Joseph Farrell, being interviewed on the Higherside Chats. He's also been referenced in this thread and a joint video of him and Jay Weidner (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108337-REALiTY-CHeCK-with-Jay-Weidner&p=1522348&viewfull=1#post1522348) (I think they've co-founded Gaia TV?) has been posted. The actual thread that spawned this one here.

Dan Winter. He's a super deep nerd and fast talker, I needed several interviews and read into a book from him to get his main points and the language he uses.. so it's definitely possible to get into that, and at that point quite poetic in a sense.

He has an actual plasma device (https://theraphi.net/) which seems to work (and looks great). Also curious if anyone of you has any input on that. I've seen a German couple not too far away from where I live working with this device and offering sessions (even remote) so I might check it out at one point.

Furthermore, Shaberon, Dan talks about shamans being able to steer/take over hurricanes. And that actually many elementals are said that humans ignore them and they'd be happy to interact more with them. I feel that this might be relevant for the experience you described :)


Just watched the presentation you linked to above.... Jay Weidner and Dan Winters.... many thanks for that - wow that was a humdinger of an hour and 22 minutes... phew - someone hold me down I nearly just whizzed off into the Kordylewski Clouds never to return... lol....

I'm going to post it here because it is so relevant to the thread topic of the Plasma Universe although the K Clouds aren't mentioned...

I didn't follow everything Dan said - and I totally get you when you said above...


Dan Winter. He's a super deep nerd and fast talker, I needed several interviews and read into a book from him to get his main points and the language he uses.. so it's definitely possible to get into that, and at that point quite poetic in a sense.

I kept starting to scribble quotes but there were so many.... so here is a sample...

Jay~(37:15).....we have many casualties right now going on... people have lost their way and they don't understand what the soul is - what the plasma world is.....

.....when you're reading ancient alchemy books every time they talk about the Secret Fire - they're talking about plasma...

.....Dan is 100% right - his linguistic skills probably go over the head of a lot of people but if you understand how to interpret what Dan is saying it's mind blowing....

Jay ~ (40:00)... it's electro magnetism and plasma...99.99% of the universe...

***********************************

Dan~ (40:04)...and it behaves like a super fluid and when it rotates you get mass..... and when can't pick up what he says here because he's speaking so fast.... can anyone reading this fill in the gap....?)...................you get time - and when it implodes you get gravity, consciousness and life force.....

***********************************

Jay ~ (40:50)....we're living at the bottom of a plasma ocean..............it's all around us - it goes way out there into space and it's filled with plasma creatures...

***********************************


Geometry, Implosion and the Alchemy of Time(1:22:30)


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video description...

Premiered on 11 Oct 2022
Dave & Riel create a super special moment, when, after a quarter of a century, Jay Weidner and Dan Winter come together to discuss plasma physics, sacred geometry and alchemy. A one time super discussion that you do not want to miss.

[wegge]

video description...
[quote]Premiered on 11 Oct 2022
Dave & Riel create a super special moment, when, after a quarter of a century, Jay Weidner and Dan Winter come together to discuss plasma physics, sacred geometry and alchemy. A one time super discussion that you do not want to miss.

I slowed it down on Youtube to 0.75x didn't help a lot, but something with period the rotation, then you get time?

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This is one of Dan's main concepts, tranversal waves (in the above videos, in German though, going up and down) and the longitudinal waves being kind of pulsed and straight ahead.

So he says the transversal waves slowly align, get narrower and narrower, and at a certain point, I think it has something to do with the "Planch constant" they turn into longitudinal waves, speed up faster than light and this is what creates gravity for example. Kind of like a funnel.

For the waves to align I they have to be compressable, embedable and fractal. Waves aligning I think he calls "phase conjugation". He also talks about wave cascades, in which you have similar waves riding in each other and thus enhancing the overall power. Like harmonics in music I guess.

Don't take my word for it, but this is my very rough layman translation.

Oh what I also found interesting is when Dan mentioned in another interview, the reason that the plasma fire doesn't burn other things is because it has its "implosion enabled".

Implosion being another important concept with Dan, it's what happens when the transveral waves then implode into the longitudinal ones.. maybe :sun:


This series is well produced and quite understandable

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[jaybee]

o1H2hdhAgr8

This is one of Dan's main concepts, tranversal waves (in the above videos, in German though, going up and down) and the longitudinal waves being kind of pulsed and straight ahead.

So he says the transversal waves slowly align, get narrower and narrower, and at a certain point, I think it has something to do with the "Planch constant" they turn into longitudinal waves, speed up faster than light and this is what creates gravity for example. Kind of like a funnel.

For the waves to align I they have to be compressable, embedable and fractal. Waves aligning I think he calls "phase conjugation". He also talks about wave cascades, in which you have similar waves riding in each other and thus enhancing the overall power. Like harmonics in music I guess.

Don't take my word for it, but this is my very rough layman translation.

Oh what I also found interesting is when Dan mentioned in another interview, the reason that the plasma fire doesn't burn other things is because it has its "implosion enabled".

Implosion being another important concept with Dan, it's what happens when the transveral waves then implode into the longitudinal ones.. maybe :sun:

cheers.......


SLINKY !!!!

I don't speak German but with the demo you could get the gist of it..... I did understand the word 'slinky' :)

me and my brother had a Slinky each and had hours and hours and HOURS of fun with it in the 60s - it was so simple and yet so brilliant for playing with - the plastic ones they make now just aren't the same - you need that metal whoosh whoosh whoosh as you transfer it from one hand to the other - or let it go down the stairs or all the other things.................. I've just ordered a classic 'Slinky' from ebay - to relive the whole experience :sun:

So brilliant that the beloved Slinky has made an appearance to help with understanding the Plasma Universe -

:thumbsup:


ps - the Dan Winters video about kundalini was great -

[shaberon]

Furthermore, Shaberon, Dan talks about shamans being able to steer/take over hurricanes. And that actually many elementals are said that humans ignore them and they'd be happy to interact more with them. I feel that this might be relevant for the experience you described :)


Yes, that sounds correct.

For example, the Rosicrucian Salamanders and so forth.

Alchemy is a type of Fire Philosophy, similar to Mazdaism and the Rg Veda.


Isaac Newton was perhaps the first but not the last word in Optics (https://library.si.edu/exhibition/color-in-a-new-light/science):


Goethe challenged Newton’s views on color, arguing that color was not simply a scientific measurement, but a subjective experience perceived differently by each viewer.



Henry E. Roscoe
Spectrum Analysis: Six Lectures . . .
London: Macmillan, 1869

These colorful line diagrams reveal the chemical compositions of metals. When a pure metal is burned and viewed through a spectroscope, each element gives off unique spectra, a sort of color fingerprint. This method, called spectral analysis, led to the discovery of new elements, and marked the first steps towards quantum theory.


https://library.si.edu/sites/default/files/spectrumanalysi00rosc_0344.jpg?itok=CQ-JrRAC




From there, one observes Planck's Blackbody Radiation, which is the basis of Quantum Mechanics. Because energy is determined to move only in discrete quantized packets. So that is found from Optics, and by applying it to the laws of motion, Niels Bohr found that Angular Momentum is also quantized, from which it is determined how sub-atomic particles work, and also gives you Uncertainty, which is how quantum vacuum works and explains otherwise unexplainable things.


Newton was a thoroughly dedicated Alchemist according to Legacy 2012 (https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item?id=MR90253&op=pdf&app=Library&oclc_number=1019490160):


Other than a verse entitled The Hunting of the
Greene Lyon 1 found in the 1652 edition of Elias Ashmole’s Theatrum Chemicum
Britannicum (Linden 278), hunting is not a common metaphor for alchemy.


1 As a footnote, it was an annotated copy of Hunting of the Greene Lyon owned
by Isaac Newton that led researchers to unveil his interest in the secret science.


His manuscripts are extraordinarily difficult such as Chymystry with Green Lyon and Vulcan Lunatique (https://newton.dlib.indiana.edu/text/ALCH00042/normalized#?c=&m=&s=&cv=&xywh=-452%2C0%2C5343%2C5309).




This may be more obvious if we get the summary called Rotation of the Elements (https://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Alchemy/rotation_of_the_elements.htm):


`In the gold the four elements are contained in equal proportions.'' Thus the Quintessence was often symbolized by the hexagram (``Solomon's Seal'') because it unites the signs of the elements.

https://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Alchemy/images/RE-QE.gif



Refinement Toward the Quintessence

https://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Alchemy/images/RE.RefQE.gif




Sublimation Toward Quintessence

https://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Alchemy/images/RE-SubQE.gif




We find the power of Torque or the combination of right angle and spin or rotation.

This can be found as the "scaling form of geometry" from astronomical to human to sub-microscopic due to the Torus (https://www.gaia.com/article/thing-connects-all-things):


https://www.gaia.com/wp-content/uploads/article-migration-image-torus_0-768x432.jpg







Just as planets do, individuals have an electromagnetic field encircling their particular node of spatial awareness. According to research from the HeartMath Institute, this field emanates primarily from the heart-center. As per their paper Science of the Heart:

“The heart’s electromagnetic field – by far the most powerful rhythmic field produced by the human body – not only envelops every cell of the body but also extends out in all directions into the space around us. The cardiac field can be measured several feet away from the body by sensitive devices.”

Variable in size and coherence, here we have a template for understanding the elusive human aura. This personal torus defines the event horizon of our experience; it is the filter through which we view the world.

A complete set of geometric structures arise within the torus. Predictable nodal points connect to create Archimedean and Platonic solids. These are the organizing force behind form as we know it. Such geometry governs the subtle chakra and meridian systems operating within, around and throughout the body.



So, the vertical spinal forces as shown in Sublimation go through the inner cavity of the Heart Torus. The Heart is used as the Stationary Point at the center of the human torus according to the design of a Russian device from Evtimova 2010 (https://conf.uni-ruse.bg/bg/docs/cp10/8.1/8.1-13.pdf):


There may be distinguished four Human Assemblage Points: the Stationary
Assemblage Point (SAP) [1], the Moving Assemblage Point (MAP) [2], the Great Light
Assemblage Point (GLAP) [2] and the Energy Cocoon Assemblage Point (ECAP) [3,
4].

Photon Sound Beam-instruments provide high quality nourishing plasma
electrical energy delivered through glass tube applicators filled with noble gases. They are
vehicles for biological plasma electricity as well as for Lakhovsky radio wave emissions,
photons and subtle quantum energies provided by the plasma emission of the elements.
The specific Rife Frequencies allow the action of very low micro-currents to disassociate
bound matter and cells. In this way, all the primary (CAEC plus meridians) and subtle
energy channels (nadis) are opened-up, so that frequency information and quantum
correcting energies may be actually received and integrated by the human body
effectively.


It is the Carlos Castaneda of medicine addressing an issue that is said to be the Stationary Point slipping out of position.

That is how it is working.

Plasma is amorphous, but, due to the nature of forces involved, it is particularly liable to become a torus. Ball lightning is thought to be a torus that is spinning so it looks like a sphere. But it turns out you can actually make a stable one in Open Air (https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/engineers-create-stable-plasma-ring-open-air-80367):


Morteza (Mory) Gharib (PhD '83), the Hans W. Liepmann Professor of Aeronautics and Bioinspired Engineering at Caltech, says he was surprised when he and his team were able to generate a stable ring of plasma in open air using just a stream of water and a crystal plate.

"We were told by some colleagues this wasn't even possible. But we can create a stable ring and maintain it for as long as we want, no vacuum or magnetic field or anything," says co-author Francisco Pereira of the Marine Technology Research Institute in Italy, a visiting scholar at Caltech.

In addition, engineers working with the plasma noticed that their cell phones encountered high levels of radio frequency noise—static—while they were in the same room as the experiment. It turns out that the plasma ring emits distinct radio frequencies. "That's never been seen before. We think it's because of the piezo properties of the materials that we used in our experiments," Pereira says, referring to the materials' ability to be electrically polarized through mechanical stress—in this case, the flowing of water.

View from above:


https://caltech-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/main/images/MGharib-Fig1B-NEWS-WEB.width-450.jpg



Alchemy is a particularly difficult language about how yoga and physics are related like this.

That is the Philosopher's Stone.

It is perhaps comparable to Step One of the Visuddhimagga.

Newton was indebted to the Emperor of Prague:

Rudolf II (1552-1612) was obsessed with alchemy and the search for the Philosopher's Stone. This mysterious substance would not only turn base metals into gold, it would also be an elixir of life, which would bestow immortality, eternal youth and cure all diseases.

[wegge]

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Newton was indebted to the Emperor of Prague:

Rudolf II (1552-1612) was obsessed with alchemy and the search for the Philosopher's Stone. This mysterious substance would not only turn base metals into gold, it would also be an elixir of life, which would bestow immortality, eternal youth and cure all diseases.


This alchemy angle and especially Rudolf is also woven into the Dan Winter rabbit hole. He and collaborators like Vincent Bridges looked into the workings of John Dee and Edward Kelley. Rudolf even threw Kelley into jail for a while, since he couldn't reproduce the philosopher's stone for him. Before that, Dee and Kelley produced highest quality gold, even measured by the British Royal Science Society.


And from there we get to Shakespeare, whose plays seem to be heavily alchemical actually, after spending time with Kelley in Prague?

Dan talks of a "consummated experience," meaning towards the end of the play all the audience identifies with all the characters on the stage.

One part of it is the supposedly the geometry of the Shakespearean theatre, the other a clever arrangement of the play, showing all the characters and their inherent predominant emotions from a variety of angles.

I'm very interested in this point and if anyone has more info on that, please let me know!

[wegge]

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We find the power of Torque or the combination of right angle and spin or rotation.

This can be found as the "scaling form of geometry" from astronomical to human to sub-microscopic due to the Torus (https://www.gaia.com/article/thing-connects-all-things):


https://www.gaia.com/wp-content/uploads/article-migration-image-torus_0-768x432.jpg








Okay this brings me right to this video about "Octa Yoga" Yoga of 8s, an invention by Lou Debourbon, another collaborator from Dan:

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The video is very slow and can be easily viewed at 1,25x. It has many many self-made models, it's a visual treat! ;)

It's basically doing figure 8s with different parts of the body on the 3 different planes of movement.
(https://www.healthline.com/health/body-planes)



I've been doing the 8s on the planes for my lower belly, upper belly (solar plex) and heart area and WOW! It's bringing so much more feeling and agility into these areas.

I'm not yet doing the transitions from one area to the other, which would then translate into a trefoil knot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trefoil_knot#/media/File:Blue_Trefoil_Knot_Animated.gif)

[jaybee]

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Just a few words about the cobra and Ancient Egypt - it seems pretty clear that the cobra represented plasma energy in some way...

In his very interesting and revealing book Cymroglphics (https://www.cymroglyphics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=61).... Ross Broadstock (who tragically died of a heart attack last year....) drawing on the work of Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett - explains how Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs can be read using Welsh - specifically Old Welsh but Welsh in general....

This is an example (youtube video - 8:04) Cymroglyphics Bitesize 002 - Ramesses and the vanished vowels (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG0-Loo5FJk)

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I have the book and looked up the cobra hieroglyph to see what it said... and on page 211 - 2nd edition - one of the two interpretations using Welsh is tethered.... the other one is ... strike/slap/wab/.... but tethered fits splendidly IMO...

Cobra..... cymric translation=cebera....root=cebystr.....english translation = tethered....

The enigmatic cobra appears to represent plasma energy being 'tethered'.... in our reality -

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it is traditionally said to symbolize royalty but it doesn't seem to actually appear in the names/cartouches of pharaohs - at least the ones I've had a look at here ( https://pharaoh.se/abydos-canon)

but it does appear in many many places closely connected to the sun (aka plasma energy)....

for example...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Golden_Uraes_Cobra_Tutankhamun%27s_Throne.jpg/220px-Golden_Uraes_Cobra_Tutankhamun%27s_Throne.jpg

Four golden uraei cobra figures, bearing sun disks on their heads, on the reverse side of the throne of Pharaoh Tutankhamun (1346–1337 BC). Valley of the Kings, Thebes, New Kingdom (18th Dynasty) source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uraeus#External_links)

and in the pictures of the sun (plasma?) - worshipping Pharaoh Akhenaten.... the cobra is coming out of the sun disc.... as it is in many other pictures...

so IMO it fits nicely that the cobra represents the tethering of plasma/light energy in Ancient Egyptian art - which could be a way of describing how our reality is formed from the plasma energy....plasma energy maybe residing in it's raw state in the Kordylewski Clouds -

complex dusty plasma tethered and fashioned (somehow) into the world that we live in - in our physical bodies while we are awake....

https://www.godkingscenario.com/images/cobra_sun_disk.jpg

image source (https://www.godkingscenario.com/gks/egyptian-cobra-goddess-wadjet-gks-19)

[shaberon]

...the cobra represents the tethering of plasma/light energy in Ancient Egyptian art - which could be a way of describing how our reality is formed from the plasma energy....



Perhaps it is.

Sun disk is also notably found in the horns of Hathor.


Comparatively, the Indian "Naga" means "snake or cobra" by way of colloquialism, because the word's origin is "immovable", such as Elephants, or:


E. na not, gam to go

na+gacchati, i.e. immovable


1) A mountain

2) A tree

3) A plant in general.

4) The sun.

5) A serpent.


Also, Lead or base metal:


The lowest metal on the alchemical hierarchy is lead, most commonly called nāga, “serpent” or sīsa/sīsaka, an allomorph of the name of the cosmic serpent Śeṣa; or, more rarely, ahirāja, “serpent king.” The Rasakāmadhenu (2.1.4) and Rasendra-bhāskara (4.108) state that lead arose from the semen of Vāsuki, the king of a mythic race of serpents known for the great wealth it possessed in its subterranean treasure hoards.

This bird-serpent opposition is made most explicit in the ca. sixteenth century Rasakāmadhenu, which identifies gold, at the summit of the hierarchy of metals, with semen shed by Agni, and lead, at the base of the system, with the seed of Vāsuki.



As "snakes", it definitely pertains to consciousness, since each type of snake is a certain poison and/or its antidote, meant subjectively. Important point is that the same power can harm or heal, depending on consciousness.


We notice in one sense, the sun is "immovable", and in another, it is "that which goes", the Asva or Horse, and they won't copy but there are two good highlights linked at the Sun, Aditya (https://books.google.com/books?id=-7PpmaKjLvUC&lpg=PA338&dq=aditya%20%20souls%20liberated%20into%20sun&pg=PA338#v=onepage&q=aditya%20%20souls%20liberated%20into%20sun&f=false), which are very clear about consciousness "piercing" the sun, or its illusory aspect, the diffuse rays that confine mundane consciousness to the world of forms and appearances.


Breaking the Heart Knot and entering the unity of the One Life is the process of Vishnu (https://www.classicyoga.co.in/2018/07/mandala-brahmana-upanishad/):


The mind that functions leads to bondage and the mind that does not function leads to liberation. Hence anything is within the range of Mind. The same Chitta (mind) when depends on nothing will be fit for dissolution. That dissolution should be practiced on me who am full. I am the only cause of the dissolution of mind. The sound generated in Anahata ether (Heart Chakra) echoes. In the echo, a radiance is generated. The mind penetrates into that radiation. That mind is the doer of creation, sustenance, and annihilation of the three worlds. When that mind meets with the dissolution that is the supreme state of Vishnu.




Nagas as "enemies" of Garuda or Birds is symbolic for Infinite Time compared to Finite Cycles. Nagas and Varuna are like the Darkness that Goethe shows projected along with spectrums, something that has to be there in order for visible rays to make sense.


I have low skill with Egyptian, but, I would say it is significant to find that, across the ancient world, there was a perception of Visible and Invisible Suns, as well as mortal or bodily breath and an invisible Cosmic Breath.

The equivalent of an Indian Mukti or Liberated Soul appears to be Khepera (https://www.theosophycanada.com/files/fohat-winter-2000.pdf):


Khepe-Ra does not need
an expensive, mechanical spaceship, because he had
created—during his initiation—a vehicle, made of
solar energy. This process is very veiled of course as
demonstrated in the 8 and 9 divisions of the
Am-Tuat book, where weaving instruments can be
seen, which are allegorically and figuratively denoting that a “fiery robe” or “vehicle made from Akasha”
(Fohat, Daiviprakriti or primordial, homogeneous
solar LIGHT or Phlogiston) is being “woven” for the
Khepe-Ra.

But we have the wall-paintings in
the tombs of the Pharaohs in the Valley of the Kings.
These paintings contain the secrets of the initiation
into the Egyptian Mysteries as we know them today—The Book of Gates and the Am-Tuat book.
Illustration XII of The Book of Gates depicts the entry
into the “Watery Abyss” or Nirvana as follows: The
Khepe-Ra [the Full-Initiate] steps out of his body and
out of the realm of the earth via his own stratum of
the Unconscious or the autonomic brain and nervous
system. He does it in the state of Samadhi by his
powerful will and Yoga concentration. The Khepe-Ra
himself as the Initiate is represented by the symbol
of the scarabaeus sacer, the holiest emblem in Egypt
(the beetle). The Dharmakaya robe of the Initiate is
the flaming Matet Sektet-boat, which the Sky-god Nu
raises up with both arms. In the boat are, with the
Khepe-Ra (beetle), his helpers and the goddesses Isis
and Nephthys. The Scarab (Initiate) moves up and
rolls in front of him the sun (his own Monad or
Atmu-Horus or Atma-Buddhi) which is received by
the goddess Nut. The latter stands upon the head of
Asar (Osiris), here in his highest aspect (possibly as
Para-Brahman or Para-Atman). The body of Asar
forms a circle, denoting that this Khepe-Ra, the
Full-Initiate, has completed the “Circle of Necessity”
and is now in the “Watery Abyss” (Nirvana, Space).



They do not suggest an equivalent for that "refuser of liberation" or Bodhisattva. I am not aware about anything in these mystery trance initiations that differs from basic yoga, which does not require a large pyramid, mausoleum, etc., as the Egyptians did.

In the extract, we see synonyms lumped around that undiscoverable "Tibetan" term, Fohat (https://www.virashaiva.com/shakti-vishishtha-advaita-doctrine/):



All is separable then into ‘self’ and ‘not-self’, into Purusa and Prakriti. Even separate thing is summed up under one or other of the headings, self or not-self. Here then we have a duality. But the twain are not two separate things isolated; there is a continual relation between them, a continual approach and withdrawal, an identification and a repudiation – this inter-play shows itself as the ever-changing universe. But this relation is magnetic, but of magnetism of the subtlest kind, called ‘Fohat’, Daiviprakriti, or Chit-shakti, ‘the light of the Logos’. It is of the Absolute and in it the essence of consciousness and essence of matter exist, polarized but not drawn apart.

This Fohat or Daiviprakriti or Para-prakriti is the real nature of the Absolute or the Supreme which is the source and support of all existence; and it is this Higher Nature, the Integral conscious-power of the Supreme Being, Chit-Shakti, which is behind the self and the cosmos. Chit-Shakti or the life of Divine in the words of the Sharana is rather the inherent one, yet variable inner power of all these changes of object-consciousness. It is a fundamental truth of the becoming, a truth that supports and gives a spiritual and divine significance to all its appearances. It is that which determines the primary law of all becoming and of each self. It constitutes the essence and develops the movement of the nature. It is the force of the Supreme so manifesting; it is the light of its consciousness and the power of its energy in things revealed in a pure original mould that is the self-nature. That force, light, power, is the eternal seed from which all other things are the developments and derivations. This eternal seed is the power of spiritual being, the conscious will in the being, the seed which the Absolute casts into the supramental vastness from which all are born into phenomenal existence.



This does, however, make things overly mystified, since neither Fohat nor Daiviprakriti are of discernable usage from any medieval or ancient text. That is not the case for the more generic terms Prakriti or Shakti (https://www.kamakoti.org/kamakoti/details/devibhagvatpurana65.html):


Vasundhara Devi or Earth too is a manifestation of Mula Prakriti, bearing the entire burden of humanity and sourcing countless boons even without asking for.


So again we find a similar distinction applied, higher and lower, higher being a type of cosmic root matter where ideas or mental impressions are first made. Secondly is a physical root-matter. It is this which is said to be identical inside the sun and in the individual heart.


Without the ability to say "X is plasma", Theosophy tells us:


Magnetism might be considered the more subtle part of electricity, and electricity the grosser aspect of the fundamental force which is both. Both are fluids, emanations, from the akasa, and are really two aspects of the underlying fohat.

Thus magnetism has an auric efflux or fluid, which finds its foundation in the vitality or pranic sources of the beings or things from which it flows.




Akasa (sky or space) is scarcely differentiable from Prakriti (root matter) until we are given reason to find something important in the Sun. It is nearly impossible to make a definite statement or give a breakdown of these, since every school attempts to do so in its own way. So I don't expect we could get India or Egypt to have a precise match-up with, for example, all the Quantum Mechanical factors that are known today. I do think those systems can get you to use inner plasma in an unusual way, detectable by the newer health machines, that does result in a harmonious relation to the Sun. Yet there is probably much more un-teaching of this than there are "schools of minor differences".


Kirlian photography records its own artificial plasma, and most science bats away anything "aura" as an Afterimage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterimage). Are we really asking what machines can measure? Well, if the whole thing is based on *not* letting one's life forces be pulled to externals, but, to "concentrate" and reverse themselves towards a point in the head--this, being very subjective, can hardly be helped by denials.

It probably remains correct that Microsaccades (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsaccade)--small, involuntary eye movements--"clean" visual images, particularly if we stare at something. That makes an object retain its form. A brain tuned to form would do poorly at Lilac Chaser, and it is certainly by suppressing such movements that unusual things are seen.

When combined with the fact that the biofield causes an overall body cycle of ~10 Hz for the muscles of mammals, that gets pretty close to how beings work.

"Normal" means a continuous series of small muscular pulses.

Prevent this, and you are either tremendously damaged, or enter a yogic trance.

The generic term "vibration" is indeed valid for good or bad that can be thrown by the EMF of the heart and the overall currents in the body, whose nerves amount to a thirty-seven mile antenna.

That doesn't have very much to do with "psychic experiments" which usually fare rather poorly. It is more universal, for anyone, a state of being largely determined electro-magnetically which can be shaped by will.

Such is the story of Nagas, who may often be attributed with one's rage, jealousy, depression, etc., but it also refers to something internal that can be corrected. They are not solar, but inhabit the core of the earth. Of course, this has to do with the raw solar radiation passing through our individuality and environment and manifesting experience. Again you could perhaps call it an "invisible" process that nothing on earth is anything other than transmuted solar energy.

The moon may seem different because it could have come from elsewhere in the solar system, or beyond, but it is still some kind of solar product.

Because the old myths have not always been asked the right questions, I would suggest--in India at least--there is a difference between static discharge lightning ("Striking") versus plasma formed on one's hands, for example, which is symbolized by a Creeper Vine.

[shaberon]

Looking at this a little more in the view that:



Bioplasma is mainly recharged by Oxygen



I bumped into Mark II of the CIA confession that the Soviets were well into studying the humanistic aspect of "energy" that the west was mainly seeking to weaponize. Despite available information, the government at some level decides the ability to read minds or telekenize objects is extremely pressing.


Before long, the CIA submitted a translation from the Russian by the Danish Society of Psychic Research 1976 (https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000500080001-0.pdf) that it is most important to study lasers and bioplasma, because so far most associated research is in parapsychology. Starting on pdf p. 31 is an entire chapter on Bioplasma. This is just a few years after the first report that we have obviously fallen behind, and this is plain advice that the other avenue of approach is more important.


The same Russians are quoted by Adamski 2011 (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/287957149_Bioplasma_Concept_of_Consciousness):


Man's biological system uses for communication not only the biochemical means, but also electromagnetic and acoustic waves, spin fields and bioplasma. An important role in the history of research into the link between the plasma and the life processes has been played by the works of Sedlak, Iniuszyn and Zona. Bioplasma is a state of mutually interacting interconnected fields and positively and negatively charged particles in an organic semiconductor. Bioplasma is seated in the protein semiconductors, or piezoelectric organic compounds. To have charged particles and excited states in both plasma and in the body, it is necessary to provide energy in various forms. This process is done by the chemical release of energy through the metabolic processes, and through the provision of energy from the outside, through the human senses. Bioplasma is a tangible medium of life and is the ground of consciousness.


Adding the factor of Melanin in 2018 (https://crimsonpublishers.com/ggs/fulltext/GGS.000546.php):


Apart from using biochemical channels, a human biological system, in order to transfer information uses electromagnetic, acustic, solition waves, spin waves, electric field, electromagnetic and torsion fields as well as bio plasma. This communication does not only apply in biological processes, but also in all mental functions. Control of the human biological system is accomplished by a grid of information channels: electron, photon, phonons, soliton, magnon, ionic and bio plasma. Each of these channels may in itself be a carrier of information to a biological system, or it can function as a team in the bio plasma system.

The author's thesis claiming that the biochemical model explains the poor the complex mechanisms of mental life. The transmission from inanimate matter to living matter cannot be explained. He still cannot explain the nature of consciousness and the transition from inanimate matter to living one. Where is the threshold and what is the role of biochemical processes in consistency of soma and consciousness as well as in building a mental structure. The author supports the thesis that the nature of mental processes is inexplicable as far as interactions of biochemical processes are concerned and it is much easier to describe it in the light of quantum processes.




So, no, it is not that related to Kirlian photography really. This is a comprehensive system of multiple sub-systems.


If you lack enough Oxygen to maintain the recharging, you have Hypoxemia, which normally requires a blood test, however a contact-free method has been developed by Kalyuzhner 2021 (https://opg.optica.org/oe/fulltext.cfm?uri=oe-29-3-3386):


Remote photonic sensing of blood oxygen saturation via tracking of anomalies in micro-saccades patterns.



In other words, it uses an eye-safe laser to read deviations in the Saccades, or small involuntary eye movements. If you do not have enough Oxygen, their patterns deteriorate and become sloppy. The apparatus was a blanket success on a small test group.

Similar test projects have been proposed about Epilepsy by Stefan 2016 (https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2016APS..DPPJ10166S/abstract):


The ultraviolet photons may control the imbalance of sodium and potassium ions in the brain bioplasma and, consequently, may prove to be efficient in the prevention of epileptic seizures. A novel method is based on the multi-ultraviolet-photon beam interaction with the epilepsy-topion-bioplasma, (nonlinear coupling of an ultra high frequency mode to the brain beta phonons). It is hypothesized that epilepsy is a chaotic-dynamics phenomenon: small electrical changes in the epilepsy-topion-bioplasma lead, (within the 10s of milliseconds), to the onset of chaos, (seizure-excessive electrical discharge), and subsequent cascading into adjacent areas.


and 2017 (https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2017APS..DPPG11055S/abstract):


In medicine, the method can be used as an ``instantaneous-on-off anesthetic.''



It makes intuitive sense, and, given that we were granted something like "proof of concept" in 2015, we find examples starting to appear in mainstream research.

The intervening time included things I had noticed from an archived site of Iona Miller. She has a few groups of statements that are somewhat useful. She is not a scientist but more of an artist working with this arcane view of "facts". And she has this picture which is sort of on its own out of context.

The caption is a mathematical way of saying that Space makes this out of Quantum or Vacuum Flux:




https://photonichuman.weebly.com/uploads/5/9/0/0/5900617/3544823.gif?676




Here are a few things she is willing to call Pop Physics (http://photonichuman.iwarp.com/index.html):


The invisible Lifeforce behind the Mystic Veil of ZERO POINT fluctuation is formless and more fundamental than matter/energy.

ZPE Virtual Photon Fluctuation, boundary layer where nothing becomes something. Light is the first thing to emerge from the Unknown. Particle/antiparticle annhiliation. Likewise, the entire world of experience constantly appears and disappears every moment. Fohat. Brownian motion. Flux.


Einstein’s equations predict that from light’s own point of view time has stopped, and distance has shrunk to zero. So all light knows is now. It doesn't exist in time and space as we do. Light, somehow, lies beyond the world of space, time, and matter. It is not part of the material world.


ABSOLUTE SPACE, the womb of Nature. Subspace. Singularity. Unborn luminous emptyness. Ground Reality. Self-Effulgence.



And some of this is re-copied on a site with a few things more recent (https://photonichuman.weebly.com/):




PHOTONIC BODY is a biohologram projected by coherent light and sound. We arise from and are sustained by field phenomena, waves of biophotonic light and sound, which form our essential nature through acoustic holography

It appears that every part of our body is "in communication with every other part through a dynamic, tuneable, responsive, liquid crystalline medium that pervades the whole body, from organs and tissues to the interior of every cell."

What this tells us is that the medium of our bodies is a form of liquid crystal, an ideal transmitter of communication, resonance, and coherence. These relatively new developments in biophysics have discovered that all biological organisms are constituted of a liquid crystalline medium. Further, DNA is a liquid-crystal, lattice-type structure (which some refer to as a liquid crystal gel), whereby body cells are involved in a holographic instantaneous communication via the emitting of biophotons (a source based on light). This implies that all living biological organisms continuously emit radiations of light that form a field of coherence and communication. Moreover, biophysics has discovered that living organisms are permeated by quantum wave forms. Ho informs us that

. . . the visible body just happens to be where the wave function of the organism is most dense. Invisible quantum waves are spreading out from each of us and permeating into all other organisms. At the same time, each of us has the waves of every other organism entangled within our own make-up. . . . We are participants in the creation drama that is constantly unfolding. We are constantly co-creating and re-creating ourselves and other organisms in the universe. . . .

Therefore the 97 percent of human DNA that is not involved in protein building is active within a quantum state.


It also suggests that DNA is a living, fluid, and dynamic "language" that as a quantum informational field is responsive not only to laser waves (as in the above experiment) but also EM waves and sound, given that the correct frequencies are applied.


These and other studies proved to Popp that one of the most essential sources of light and biophoton emissions was DNA. DNA was like the master tuning fork of the body. It would strike a particular frequency and certain molecules would follow. It was also possible, he realised, that he had stumbled upon the missing link in current DNA theory that could account for perhaps the greatest miracle of all in human biology -- how a single cell can turn into a fully formed human being.


Meditation masters speak of an inner Light that pervades the physical and energy bodies. Now science investigates it as biophotons. Through quantum physics we can watch that matter/energy/information devolve back into the unstructured void from which potential emanates.

Mystics have often equated this pervasive Light/Sound with primordial Consciousness and the source of life as well as matter. Quantum bioholography shows the DNA literally produces coherent light, which transduces to sound that directs the formative processes of life.


BIOPLASMA. Plasma is the fourth state of matter (liquid, gaseous, solid). Living organisms, including humans, are plasmas which produce waves. Life is electric, however, its control takes place magnetically, electromagnetically. The manifestations of life may be ultimately summarized in terms of plasma and radiation. The secret of life lies in process control through small energy and with minimal noise. Plasmas are conductive and only respond to electric and magnetic fields and can be efficient sources of radiation.

Magnetohydrodynamics is based on magnetic transmission over a plasma carrier. Sedlak proposes that magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) can be used to model living bioplasma. This MHD controlled state correlates with metabolic process, such as anabolism-catabolism and oxidation, physiological currents and weakly luminescent effects (biophotons; bioluminescence). A complex signaling system is formed involving electric, magnetic, optical and acoustic effects. This signaling system must operate on the level of single macromolecules like DNA and on groups of molecules, such as cells, tissues, organs and the organism, and above all on the level of the metabolism as an ensemble of chemical processes.

Meditative techniques using sound, sight, or awareness may generate particular wave patterns whose fields induce resonance in the brain. Millennia of human trial and error have determined that certain ‘sacred’ worlds, visual images, and mental exercises exert uniquely desired effects, causing multiple systems to vibrate and pulse at certain frequencies. When our minds and bodies resonate with these spiritual exercises the pineal begins to ‘vibrate’ at frequencies that weaken its multiple barriers to DMT formation and release.

The mindbody is electronic, but it is rooted in the luminosity of its invisible ground. Living systems are very sensitive to tiny energy fields and resonance phenomena, both locally and at a distance. They allow the cells of the body to work together instantaneously and symphonically. All biological processes are a function of electromagnetic field interactions. EM fields are the connecting link between the world of form and resonant patterns. EM fields embody or store gestalts, patterns of information.





From a site attributing well-being with Ammonite (https://ammonite.com/bioplasma/):



In 1986, Hannes Alfvén first suggested that electrified plasma might be scalar.


However, modern physics can now detect states of plasma in liquid and solid forms of matter. With regard to the cells of a living organism we talk about bioplasma. Biophotons, say parts of light saved in an organism, are indicated as bioplasma. We also talk about saved electro-magnetic energy.

Thus, atoms and molecules of a cell can absorb light energy and put it in a kind of intermediate storage and make it available for biochemical processes of metabolism. Without bioplasma, a cell would be nonviable, since chemical processes would be out of control. This would lead to immediate breakdown and the cell’s death.

It is interesting how the form of biomolecules allows to receive and send biophotons. The multi-spiral arrangement of the DNA-molecule, for example, is a perfect receiving aerial for biophotons. Moreover, the cell membrane has the function of a cavity resonator. The cell membrane amplifies the electromagnetic field, which is constructed by the presence of biophotons in the cell. It is like a guitar. If you tried to play a guitar without the guitar’s body, you’d create a very low tone only. By the guitar’s cavity resonator, the tone will be intensified. Biophotons and cells of an organism work in the same manner, whereas the DNA-molecule can be seen as “string” which is stimulated by the biophotons to swing. Therefore, the electro-magnetic oscillation energy in the form of bioplasma in a cell is seen as an indicator for its vitality.



I would agree that the explanations being pursued explain Biology and Psychology more satisfyingly than Behavioralism applied to random chemical soup does. At the same time it matches what is found on astronomical and cosmic observations. The same Toroidal formations appear in Space, in the intergalactic strands, in the human being.

[Reinhard]

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GREAT FIND!......Thank you, Wegge.


We find the power of Torque or the combination of right angle and spin or rotation.

This can be found as the "scaling form of geometry" from astronomical to human to sub-microscopic due to the Torus (https://www.gaia.com/article/thing-connects-all-things):


https://www.gaia.com/wp-content/uploads/article-migration-image-torus_0-768x432.jpg








Okay this brings me right to this video about "Octa Yoga" Yoga of 8s, an invention by Lou Debourbon, another collaborator from Dan:

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The video is very slow and can be easily viewed at 1,25x. It has many many self-made models, it's a visual treat! ;)

It's basically doing figure 8s with different parts of the body on the 3 different planes of movement.
(https://www.healthline.com/health/body-planes)



I've been doing the 8s on the planes for my lower belly, upper belly (solar plex) and heart area and WOW! It's bringing so much more feeling and agility into these areas.

I'm not yet doing the transitions from one area to the other, which would then translate into a trefoil knot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trefoil_knot#/media/File:Blue_Trefoil_Knot_Animated.gif)

[shaberon]

I am not sure if this belongs here, but it may.

Until there is any explanation, there is not a better one than it may go here.

Humanity, meet The Finch (https://sputnikglobe.com/20231006/hubble-discovery-of-new-fast-blue-optical-transient-poses-more-questions-than-it-answers-1113991988.html):

https://cdn1.img.sputnikglobe.com/img/07e6/0b/18/1104661603_0:92:985:646_1280x0_80_0_0_46793133da4ad8f6c4a337f028c00af7.jpg.webp




Luminous Fast Blue Optical Transients

Until this point, LFBOTs had been associated with galaxies, but what Hubble found was astounding: The Finch was in intergalactic space, about 50,000 light-years from one large galaxy and 15,000 light-years from another smaller one.


LFBOTs are kind of like supernovas or gamma ray bursts, but they’re much brighter than supernovae and they shine in bright blue light and also emit a lot of radio waves, ultraviolet rays, and x-rays, but not much else. They also only last for a few days, whereas supernovae typically last for weeks or months.

During the brief time The Finch stuck around, it was also observed by the Gemini South telescope in Chile, the Very Large Array radio telescope, and the Hubble Space Telescope and Chandra X-ray Observatory in Earth orbit.

Gemini was able to tell through spectral analysis that The Finch was about 20,000 degrees Celsius, well short of a supernova or even of a massive star but much hotter than our sun, for example. The light’s red-shift showed it occurred about 3 billion light-years away, which is why the Hubble’s massive eye was called on to check it out.

[palehorse]

Jaybee thank you for this. It so happens that I only coincidentally ran across Robert Temple and his work a few days ago.....

He is a pleasure to listen to and his conversation in the last few weeks or so with Jay Weidner was very interesting and highly recommended. It seems Temple knew and hung out with a lot of big names in the space/psychic arenas of yesteryear.

This brings possibly new perspectives as to what the Human Cabal is really up to as they must have known about all this a long time ago. So that begs the questions as to how this plays into what we see going on in our world now. Lots of potential ramifications!
Good place to add, jaybee's post from the Jay Weidner thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108337-REALiTY-CHeCK-with-Jay-Weidner&p=1570910&viewfull=1#post1570910). http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/hat-baseball.gif

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This is an enjoyable, wide ranging + informative conversation between Jay Weidner and Robert Temple -

the interview centres on Robert Temple's new book...'A New Science of Heaven' (https://www.waterstones.com/book/a-new-science-of-heaven/robert-temple/9781473623750) and ripples out from there...

A read through the comments under the video on the YouTube site indicates the high quality of the presentation and it IS a real gem...

enjoy.....


The Bio-Plasma Universe


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Premiered on 7 Dec 2022
Author Robert Temple joins Jay Weidner for a far ranging discussion on the Plasma Universe and how this new science confirms many ancient spiritual beliefs. The show ends with Robert reminiscing about the two years he spent on the set of 2001: A Space Odyssey.


@12:15.....Robert ... "One of the things I like to stress is that science is finally catching up with Ancient Wisdom..."

@15;30.....Jay....Are there powers that be that don't want people looking into this?
Robert .... "Certainly - because if we understand all this then we can't be controlled by all the psychopaths that rule the world.."

@16:00...Robert... "The authoritarianism is growing daily - it doesn't matter if you're left wing or right wing - that's all beside the point - the fact is it's the control freaks versus the rest of us..."

@31:30... Jay... "The big wake up call is exactly this subject - because once you actually understand the spiritual landscape of plasma physics you realise that you are eternal - you're not going to die and therefore there's nothing to be afraid of ..."

@43:00... (regarding plasma physics)....Jay... I think it's at the basis of all the spiritual traditions - I think it's at the basis of alchemy, especially - I think it's at the basis of the previous civilization that was here before the cataclysm......."


Superb, thanks.

Maybe this video is related, Darius says the very same thing "we never die", but he goes more into this construct probably made out of plasma.

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Superb, thanks.

Maybe this video is related, Darius says the very same thing "we never die", but he goes more into this construct probably made out of plasma.
Thanks, palehorse. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/wave-hi.gif
I follow Darius mind stretching ideas. I appreciate his devotion to develop the knowledge and skills he discovers. I’ll add this from the OBE Reveals 'Our Simulation is Ending' According to Darius J. Wright (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121970-OBE-Reveals-Our-Simulation-is-Ending-According-to-Darius-J.-Wright&p=1581704&viewfull=1#post1581704)


Reclaiming Your Authority - Darius J Wright (56 min)

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Darius J. Wright - ”I don’t want a group of followers. I don't want anybody following me. I want a group of people that are leaders of themselves because one person could be taken out and then there goes the entire cause in the movement. This is the direct path for getting a soul to truly stand up and see things for themselves without following someone else. Because each individual person starts holding their flame and holding their truth with an absolute fact without question. And that is an unstoppable force. Teaching people this becomes that because it's a tool for individuals to remember that they have that God-given right if they desire to step into it.

Alisha Braché - “I really love to hear peoples personal stories because it adds context that makes you understand. It's inspiring to know what people have gone through and how they've got to achieve where they are today. I hope that this message and this video may inspire other people to get really clear on what it is that they want to achieve for their souls calling and apply the focus and dedication that you seem to have mastered to so well.”

Darius @ 42:00 - RE: How people sell their souls. ”I stand in love, integrity, and my truth without question. I walk that path and I do not allow anything pierce my armor of stepping out of those things. That takes a level of courage…”



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Darius J Wright is a prolific OBE explorer, delving into different dimensions and unlocking the secrets of the unseen realms through the out of body state. With deep insights into the nature of reality, Darius teaches and speaks publicly about accessing the other side and awakening dormant abilities within all of us.

In this Episode, Darius speaks about his life, growing up and all the experiences that have led him to today. Darius shares powerful insights “to awaken and step into your power is to tear off the cloak of conformity and submission and step into your raw, unapologetic truth."

Connect with Darius:
www.dariusjwright.com

Connect with Alisha:
www.cosmicg8way.com
Cosmic Gateway (https://www.youtube.com/@CosmicGateway/videos)


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Superb, thanks.

Maybe this video is related, Darius says the very same thing "we never die", but he goes more into this construct probably made out of plasma.
Jay Weidner has an interview scheduled for today, December 3rd @ 8:00 PM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGTlbRh8OY) with Helena Reznor on the topic of the Plasma Universe.


Living in the Plasma Universe





December 3, 2023
REALITY CHECK (https://www.youtube.com/c/REALiTYCHeCK2019/videos)
www.jayweidner.com

Helena Reznor joins Jay Weidner to discuss the new emerging science of plasma physics and its relationship to the mystical universe. Investigator, Researcher Reznor has traveled and studied the subject for many years.

0dGTlbRh8OY

[palehorse]

Superb, thanks.

Maybe this video is related, Darius says the very same thing "we never die", but he goes more into this construct probably made out of plasma.
Jay Weidner has an interview scheduled for today, December 3rd @ 8:00 PM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGTlbRh8OY) with Helena Reznor on the topic of the Plasma Universe.


Living in the Plasma Universe





December 3, 2023
REALITY CHECK (https://www.youtube.com/c/REALiTYCHeCK2019/videos)
www.jayweidner.com

Helena Reznor joins Jay Weidner to discuss the new emerging science of plasma physics and its relationship to the mystical universe. Investigator, Researcher Reznor has traveled and studied the subject for many years.

0dGTlbRh8OY



Thanks RunningDeer, I just watched it, amazing.

The first time I ever heard about plasma beings was in the movie "Ghost Busters" the original one from the 80's, I was a kid.

https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Rick-Moranis-spots-the-Slimer-ghost-in-Ghostbusters.jpg

[wegge]

Superb, thanks.

Maybe this video is related, Darius says the very same thing "we never die", but he goes more into this construct probably made out of plasma.
Jay Weidner has an interview scheduled for today, December 3rd @ 8:00 PM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGTlbRh8OY) with Helena Reznor on the topic of the Plasma Universe.


Living in the Plasma Universe





December 3, 2023
REALITY CHECK (https://www.youtube.com/c/REALiTYCHeCK2019/videos)
www.jayweidner.com

Helena Reznor joins Jay Weidner to discuss the new emerging science of plasma physics and its relationship to the mystical universe. Investigator, Researcher Reznor has traveled and studied the subject for many years.

0dGTlbRh8OY

Thanks for posting this, it was absolutely amazing. And I second Jay's call for bringing on a plasma conference and creating a kind of plasma community, parallel to the ufo community :)

[wegge]

I just saw that someone was mentioning James Trevor Constable and his infrared photography on this thread a while ago. This totally slipped my mind, but this guy is a legend. And it brings a totally new layer to the plasma universe, as it seems we're actually quite surrounded by a plasma flora and fauna. Here's yet another amazing Jay Weidner interview with a friend of Constable:

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With Constable also comes up the topic of sight. Has anyone ever heard of dicyanine goggles? Probably the inspiration behind "They Live."

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Which also reminded me that in the fantastic probably true story Chameleo (https://www.amazon.com/Chameleo-Invisible-Addiction-Homeland-Security-ebook/dp/B00ZDWEITO/), the gangstalking, supposedly done with invisibility cloaks, started after an incident with nightvision goggles stolen from some US military guys.

Which also reminds me of a fascinating Scientology exercise, in which you just try to discern between points in space.

To top it of, here's another full blown presentation by Dan Winter and the physics of vision, also mentioning the seemingly ongoing and growing trend of kids seeing without their eyes.

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viva la vision!

[aoibhghaire]

“Plasmas,” up to a kilometer in size and behaving similar to multicellular organisms have been filmed on 10 separate NASA space shuttle missions, over 200 miles above Earth within the thermosphere. These opaque self-illuminated entities (“plasmas”) are attracted to and may “feed on” electromagnetic radiation. They have different morphologies:1) cone, 2) cloud, 3) donut, 4) cylindrical; and have been filmed flying towards and descending from the thermosphere into thunderstorms; congregating by the hundreds and interacting with satellites generating electromagnetic activity; and approaching the Space Shuttles.

Computerized analysis of flight path trajectories of the “plasmas” in the thermosphere, document they travel at different velocities from different directions, and will suddenly change their angle of trajectory making 45-degree shifts, 90-degree shifts, and 180-degree shifts and turning and following each other. They have been filmed accelerating and slowing down; stopping; congregating; engaging in “hunter-predatory” behaviour; intersecting other plasmas and leaving a “plasma” tail in their wake.

Similar life-like behaviours have been demonstrated by plasmas created experimentally. These “plasmas” (identified as “foo fighters”) may have been photographed in the 1940s by WWII pilots; and filmed recently by military pilots and classified as “Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.” Similarly, UFOs at nuclear silo (ICBM) sites looked like plasma UFOs. Its possible that these extraterrestrial electromagnetic plasmas represent a form of “pre-life” or a non-biological fourth domain of life and are responsible for many UAP - UFO sightings when they descend into the lower atmosphere.

[wegge]

It's all waves waving withing waves (to quote Irving Dardik) and it seems we're quite capable wave generators ourselves, even doing it with our breaths, aided by the turbonates in our nose.

Please see this video for practical guidance (https://share.vidyard.com/watch/tnhZTjDGzAV4U3CXosc797?) (8 minutes long), the speaker in the video is Dan Brulé.

Speaking of our body generating waves, does anyone have more infos on the kinds of waves, beyond EM and pressure, that the heart generates?

[jaybee]

It's all waves waving withing waves (to quote Irving Dardik) and it seems we're quite capable wave generators ourselves, even doing it with our breaths, aided by the turbonates in our nose.

Please see this video for practical guidance (https://share.vidyard.com/watch/tnhZTjDGzAV4U3CXosc797?) (8 minutes long), the speaker in the video is Dan Brulé.

Speaking of our body generating waves, does anyone have more infos on the kinds of waves, beyond EM and pressure, that the heart generates?


Well...... just been on an interesting little internet journey after reading your post....

I thought - I wonder what pattern the sound of a heart beat makes and went looking for it - first tried to find something searching 'chladni pattern - heart beat' and came upon this which is similar but instead of using sand - using water to make sound visible...

so here is the sound of a heat beat made visible using a piece of equipment called a cymascope (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMK3OVBjx2Q) and on that link is a very interesting video (31:55) explaining all about the cymascope and how it works....amazingly the last part shows how a dolphin can see images using sound and the cymascope can replicate the image... !!

Heart beat made visible on CymaScope

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video description...

Cardiologists can detect a variety of heart abnormalities by listening to heart sounds with a stethoscope. Now, the CymaScope can make visible the sounds of a healthy heart or a heart with abnormalities and cymascopic imaging may lead to a new form of diagnosis in the future.

The channel.... 'CymaScope'..... is a treasure house of fascinating looking videos... I have only looked at one so far and as luck would have it :) I'm able to firmly link it to the Plasma Universe and this thread topic...

Short story behind the topic link and a bit of synchronicity... I was thinking about Orbs.... as I was reading through co author 'Aiobhghaire's' great article about....
Extraterrestrial Life in Space. Plasmas in the Thermosphere: UAP, Pre-Life, Fourth State of Matter (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/377077692_Extraterrestrial_Life_in_Space_Plasmas_in_the_Thermosphere_UAP_Pre-Life_Fourth_State_of_Matter) (see intro in post 51 above)


I used to go camping to Wiltshire every year and all sorts of exciting things went on - due to the location and the energies and whatnot... stone circles.... crop circles.... military activity....people from all over the world arriving on a kind of pilgrimage - etc etc... one of the exciting things was photographing orbs.... me and a couple of friends used to go out on 'Orb Patrol' ... :).... capturing images of orbs (there were always lots about)...

so one night one friend who was into Buddhism held his arms up and did an Om chant... his (then) partner, took some shots and right above his head was an amazing orb that was like a mandala...

I'm thinking plasma - organizing itself to express (reflect) the Om - (and the feelings (devotion) that went with it...)

so here's the one video, besides the heart beat one, I have looked at on the CymaScope channel (so far).....

it hits the spot.... oh my golly gosh yes... :)

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The music of Anders Holte & Cacina Meadu, made visible by CymaScope instrument.

[wegge]

Jaybee you genius! I‘ve just been getting very interested in cymatics these last few weeks!

[jaybee]

Jaybee you genius! I‘ve just been getting very interested in cymatics these last few weeks!


Yay - more synchronicity - I love it :Party:

On the cymatics video of a Heart Beat Made Visible (#53 above) - don't know if you already do this but if you tap on the pause 'button' you can see numerous interesting stills of the Heart Beat Made Visible... and often I see a little face in the middle... often a funny/cute little face of some kind.... don't know what that's all about - maybe just the 'making a face pattern out of random shapes'.... thing....

but isn't it (sometimes)* said that the Heart is the 'seat of the mind'....

:idea:

:)



hmmmmmmm


* edit to add.... I see it's more than sometimes - the Heart being the seat of the mind .... the seat of the soul...the seat of emotions....

[wegge]

I reached out to Dr Adamski, brought up by Shaberon in a post, for an interview on "bioplasma and its implications for everyday people."

He agreed to a written interview. Do you have any questions I should pose to him?

[jaybee]

I reached out to Dr Adamski, brought up by Shaberon in a post, for an interview on "bioplasma and its implications for everyday people."

He agreed to a written interview. Do you have any questions I should pose to him?

Hi wegge - could you say a bit about Dr Adamski - or link to what Shaberon said about him.... thanks...

in the mean time, three areas I would be interested to hear his thoughts on...

1. Bioplasma and the afterlife... ie.... Do we reside in a plasma environment when we die..?

2. Bioplasma and dreams...ie.... Do dreams take place in a geographical (plasma based) location connected to Earth - the Kordylewski Clouds for example?

3. Bioplasma and Kundalini Energy...ie...Is Kundalini Energy, a bioplasma system that animates + links all life on Earth ?


cheers... :thumbsup:

[wegge]

I reached out to Dr Adamski, brought up by Shaberon in a post, for an interview on "bioplasma and its implications for everyday people."

He agreed to a written interview. Do you have any questions I should pose to him?

Hi wegge - could you say a bit about Dr Adamski - or link to what Shaberon said about him.... thanks...

in the mean time, three areas I would be interested to hear his thoughts on...

1. Bioplasma and the afterlife... ie.... Do we reside in a plasma environment when we die..?

2. Bioplasma and dreams...ie.... Do dreams take place in a geographical (plasma based) location connected to Earth - the Kordylewski Clouds for example?

3. Bioplasma and Kundalini Energy...ie...Is Kundalini Energy, a bioplasma system that animates + links all life on Earth ?


cheers... :thumbsup:

thanks for your input! He's mentioned in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121647-The-Kordylewski-Clouds-Plasma-Universe&p=1575038&viewfull=1#post1575038)

[shaberon]

I reached out to Dr Adamski, brought up by Shaberon in a post, for an interview on "bioplasma and its implications for everyday people."

He agreed to a written interview. Do you have any questions I should pose to him?



Very interesting.

Is this being set up? Do you send him questions and he fills in the blanks?


Concerning the heart, I remember one of the newer machines, from, I think, Bulgaria, has been designed to test the "Assemblage Points" of Carlos Castaneda. The main point was that the Heart Assemblage Point is supposed to be stationary, but, in conditions of disease and disorder, it is warped or bent out of alignment.

So, yes, medically we want to keep that in smooth function, and, when it comes to things like forming a mandala over the head, I would agree this is a natural and desirable process. The expectation would be to see it on its own. Again, the only thing I personally know to be real is not in the news with special information about 9/11, but, that this process works and you can feel it *and* see it.


The real Buddhist Chakrasamvara resembles the solar system, but, deals with the orbits of at least thirty-two entities. A rotation of the entire group takes sixty-two days. So, pretty big gap between being able to catch a glimpse of something, and, mastery of this practice to the point where it can be seen by other people.


It's very awkward, we found that just in 2015, Chopra et al more or less "green lighted" medical plasma to the western countries, and then, what did we get. Did Covid hysteria cause many advances in medical plasma research? Not really. It is still mostly on the fringe. I would think it would be the most important kind of science.

[wegge]

I reached out to Dr Adamski, brought up by Shaberon in a post, for an interview on "bioplasma and its implications for everyday people."

He agreed to a written interview. Do you have any questions I should pose to him?



Very interesting.

Is this being set up? Do you send him questions and he fills in the blanks?


Concerning the heart, I remember one of the newer machines, from, I think, Bulgaria, has been designed to test the "Assemblage Points" of Carlos Castaneda. The main point was that the Heart Assemblage Point is supposed to be stationary, but, in conditions of disease and disorder, it is warped or bent out of alignment.

So, yes, medically we want to keep that in smooth function, and, when it comes to things like forming a mandala over the head, I would agree this is a natural and desirable process. The expectation would be to see it on its own. Again, the only thing I personally know to be real is not in the news with special information about 9/11, but, that this process works and you can feel it *and* see it.


The real Buddhist Chakrasamvara resembles the solar system, but, deals with the orbits of at least thirty-two entities. A rotation of the entire group takes sixty-two days. So, pretty big gap between being able to catch a glimpse of something, and, mastery of this practice to the point where it can be seen by other people.


It's very awkward, we found that just in 2015, Chopra et al more or less "green lighted" medical plasma to the western countries, and then, what did we get. Did Covid hysteria cause many advances in medical plasma research? Not really. It is still mostly on the fringe. I would think it would be the most important kind of science.

Yes, right now I'm collecting some questions and will send him the whole bunch, then maybe some follow up once he responds, let's see how it goes.

[shaberon]

I had to look back and see who the guy is. So Dr. Adamski studied stuff from the Soviets/Russians that the CIA had already recommended the U. S. govt. should be doing, and in the first paper he says:


Bioplasma is seated in the protein semiconductors, or piezoelectric organic compounds.


Bioplasma is a tangible medium of life and is the ground of consciousness.



What that brings to mind--I think I posted it here--is that the system of the Rig Veda is concerned with genetic health on two major aspects. First is a system of rules that makes it so people that live near one another must have six or seven degrees of bloodline separation in order to have a child. Secondly the suggestion is that, because the system *appears* to be male-centric and mostly practiced by men, is due to the simple fact that male DNA is more easily damaged. The proposed effect from chanting the mantras is indeed that the DNA helix becomes a "resonant cavity" so that the vibrations of the mantras protect it.

Dr. Adamski has just stated the plasma process relies on piezos.

To me, that sounds identical, or very close, i. e. the sound would affect the piezos he is referring to, whether or not that means a male chromosome.

I would ask him if that is feasible. The book would just say the Plasma already knows how it works and reveals itself and operates through us. I'm not sure the people knew anything about molecules, so they can't put it in terms of preserving one, but I don't see why the effect is impossible either.

[wegge]

I had to look back and see who the guy is. So Dr. Adamski studied stuff from the Soviets/Russians that the CIA had already recommended the U. S. govt. should be doing, and in the first paper he says:


Bioplasma is seated in the protein semiconductors, or piezoelectric organic compounds.


Bioplasma is a tangible medium of life and is the ground of consciousness.



What that brings to mind--I think I posted it here--is that the system of the Rig Veda is concerned with genetic health on two major aspects. First is a system of rules that makes it so people that live near one another must have six or seven degrees of bloodline separation in order to have a child. Secondly the suggestion is that, because the system *appears* to be male-centric and mostly practiced by men, is due to the simple fact that male DNA is more easily damaged. The proposed effect from chanting the mantras is indeed that the DNA helix becomes a "resonant cavity" so that the vibrations of the mantras protect it.

Dr. Adamski has just stated the plasma process relies on piezos.

To me, that sounds identical, or very close, i. e. the sound would affect the piezos he is referring to, whether or not that means a male chromosome.

I would ask him if that is feasible. The book would just say the Plasma already knows how it works and reveals itself and operates through us. I'm not sure the people knew anything about molecules, so they can't put it in terms of preserving one, but I don't see why the effect is impossible either.

This is from his 2018 paper (https://crimsonpublishers.com/ggs/fulltext/GGS.000546.php):

"Apart from using biochemical channels, a human biological system, in order to transfer information uses electromagnetic, acustic, solition waves, spin waves, electric field, electromagnetic and torsion fields as well as bio plasma. This communication does not only apply in biological processes, but also in all mental functions. Control of the human biological system is accomplished by a grid of information channels: electron, photon, phonons, soliton, magnon, ionic and bio plasma. Each of these channels may in itself be a carrier of information to a biological system, or it can function as a team in the bio plasma system [1-5]."

I guess it's fair to say that sound/mantras seem important, I'll ask him. I'm especially interested in how all these different waves interact with each other, and also in different kinds of mediums in the body... bone, blood etc.

[shaberon]

I guess it's fair to say that sound/mantras seem important, I'll ask him. I'm especially interested in how all these different waves interact with each other, and also in different kinds of mediums in the body... bone, blood etc.



It definitely is. There is for example a Brown University study from the angle of Neurology based, I think, on regular EEG machines.


Secondly, naming different kinds of waves is tangent to different kinds of plasma, even liquid and solid ones. There is something very sensitive about the "Photonic Individual" that is in a separate league from the "Electric Individual" as seen in the twelve watts and minor DC current which has been measured for many years.


So it is quite interesting that the lair of Bioplasma would be among Piezos.

That is to say, they would certainly be affected by sound, and, plausibly, other kinds of waves.


Also, when considering the possible varieties of waves, then we may realize it is not realistic for a person to have "a frequency". There isn't something like Schumann Resonance that one is "on". It may be a factor, we may say this is like Alpha Waves, but when one is in the Alpha state, all other types of waves are still happening. Plasma science is not going to let you over-simplify anything--we might be able to focus a few "main factors" but it really is more like an orchestra.

[wegge]

I guess it's fair to say that sound/mantras seem important, I'll ask him. I'm especially interested in how all these different waves interact with each other, and also in different kinds of mediums in the body... bone, blood etc.



It definitely is. There is for example a Brown University study from the angle of Neurology based, I think, on regular EEG machines.


Secondly, naming different kinds of waves is tangent to different kinds of plasma, even liquid and solid ones. There is something very sensitive about the "Photonic Individual" that is in a separate league from the "Electric Individual" as seen in the twelve watts and minor DC current which has been measured for many years.


So it is quite interesting that the lair of Bioplasma would be among Piezos.

That is to say, they would certainly be affected by sound, and, plausibly, other kinds of waves.


Also, when considering the possible varieties of waves, then we may realize it is not realistic for a person to have "a frequency". There isn't something like Schumann Resonance that one is "on". It may be a factor, we may say this is like Alpha Waves, but when one is in the Alpha state, all other types of waves are still happening. Plasma science is not going to let you over-simplify anything--we might be able to focus a few "main factors" but it really is more like an orchestra.

Dan Winter talks of frequency cascades, waves all being in golden ratio with each other, I guess thus amplifying their impact, maybe becoming even more resilient against destructive interference from other waves floating around..

Also, has anyone ever heard of stochastic resonance?

"Stochastic resonance (SR) is a phenomenon in which a signal that is normally too weak to be detected by a sensor can be boosted by adding white noise to the signal, which contains a wide spectrum of frequencies. The frequencies in the white noise corresponding to the original signal's frequencies will resonate with each other, amplifying the original signal while not amplifying the rest of the white noise – thereby increasing the signal-to-noise ratio, which makes the original signal more prominent. Further, the added white noise can be enough to be detectable by the sensor, which can then filter it out to effectively detect the original, previously undetectable signal.

This phenomenon of boosting undetectable signals by resonating with added white noise extends to many other systems – whether electromagnetic, physical or biological – and is an active area of research.[1]

Stochastic resonance was first proposed by the Italian physicists Roberto Benzi, Alfonso Sutera and Angelo Vulpiani in 1981."

Many things going on in a world of waves...

[shaberon]

Many things going on in a world of waves...



That's all there is.

It gets complicated quick in thinking of how many possible waves there may be, but--the simple response is that there is no such thing as matter.

"Solid" is mostly empty space, it does not have any "tiny particles", just pieces of electricity. There literally is nothing in it. There is only a subset of wave functions that effectively act as "solid".

My knowledge is pretty limited compared to anyone qualified as a researcher in this field. If there had been this field, I might have pursued it, but there isn't, yet, or it is not much closer than Bulgaria. One time I was required to do this piece of work:


Derive Schrodinger's Wave Equation from first principles.

That is probably the most difficult question I have ever been asked.

I am pretty good with something like how the Kordylewski Clouds are predicted by the LaGrange Points. It is interesting and weird and how the universe seems to operate in mathematical terms.

Particularly with plasma, we remain at the conundrum:


"If there is an Ether, then I am wrong".

- Einstein


I have always thought the experiment testing for ether was not testing for the real ether. It was testing a convenient hypothetical one. Einstein being wrong would imply that Steady State or Plasma Universe is a superior explanation. However I think the medical aspect is far more significant, and I hope in my lifetime I will be able to see some kind of "industrial blueprint" where this has been accepted as the "real individual" rather than blood pressure and platelet counts and other electro-chemical stuff.

I, personally, cannot make a coherent statement about it--to be so would be like endorsing one of the machines from some doctor who *has* researched this, and would not be my claim to make. I like learning about them and the fact that anyone really is doing this is uplifting.

[wegge]

Dr. Adamski got back to me, his answers were 26 pages long, so I put them into an article:

https://christophweigert.substack.com/p/bio-plasma-an-interview-with-dr-adam

There is quite a focus on "Solitons."

[Neptune7]

[QUOTE=RunningDeer;1571356][CENTER]“A New Science of Heaven: How the new science of plasma physics is
shedding light on spiritual experience," by Robert Temple


"Other revelations not previously known outside narrow academic disciplines include the evidence that in certain circumstances plasma exhibits features that suggest they may be in some sense alive: clouds of plasma have evolved double helixes, banks of cells and crystals, filaments and junctions which could control the flow of electric currents, thus generating an intelligence similar to machine intelligence. We may, in fact, have been looking for signs of extra-terrestrial life in the wrong place."




While awaiting a copy of this book from the library, I would very much appreciate any links from the book to peer-reviewed or other available online sources of the research listed in the quote above.

This directly relates to Paragraph 4 of my post on Introducing Edge theory.

Thx in advance.
N7

[wegge]

xDSYeAL0xFU

4 hour mega interview about all things Plasma with Bob Greenyer (the only guy who can correct Dan Winter if he goes astray, as Roger Green, friend of both, told me)

[RunningDeer]

xDSYeAL0xFU


4 hour mega interview about all things Plasma with Bob Greenyer (the only guy who can correct Dan Winter if he goes astray, as Roger Green, friend of both, told me)


Episode Timeline:

00:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=0s) Introductions

7:33 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=453s) Ancient Technology?

28:51 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=1731s) Egypt

1:38:28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=5908s) How is Time Perceived?

2:04:12 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=7452s) What can it do?

2:23:17 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=8597s) Vases

2:51:23 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=10283s) Thunderstorm Generator

3:13:39 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=11619s) Who is using it?

3:38:39 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=13119s) Remote Viewing

3:45:32 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=13532s) UFO & UAP

4:00:16 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSYeAL0xFU&t=14416s) Closing

[jaybee]

I reached out to Dr Adamski, brought up by Shaberon in a post, for an interview on "bioplasma and its implications for everyday people."

He agreed to a written interview. Do you have any questions I should pose to him?


Dr. Adamski got back to me, his answers were 26 pages long, so I put them into an article:

https://christophweigert.substack.com/p/bio-plasma-an-interview-with-dr-adam

There is quite a focus on "Solitons."


Hi wegge - sorry for late response to this.... I must have missed it back in March when you posted ...

I notice he's answered the questions that I passed on for you to ask in my post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121647-The-Kordylewski-Clouds-Plasma-Universe&p=1600962&viewfull=1#post1600962)




19 - Do dreams take place in a geographic (plasmic) location connected to Earth - for example, in the Kordylewski Clouds?
Yes – I described it in bilocation.

20 - Is Kundalini energy a bioplasmic system that animates and connects all life on Earth?
Yes, Kundalini energy is a bioplasmic structure.

21 –When we die, are we in a plasma environment?
After the death of the body, the information recorded in the bioplasm about my perceptual and mental impressions passes to Galactic Quantum Information located in Space. According to Janusz Sławiński, with the death of an organism there is a necrotic emission of light into the Universe, which carries with it the entire history of human life from its ontogeny. Sławinski, J. 1990: Necrotic photon emission in stress and lethal interactions. Curr. Topics. Biophys. 19, 8-27.8

I like the question and answer about Francis of Assisi...


18 – In a similar vein, I heard a story about Francis of Assisi who went into the forest and had an “experience of bliss” there, and the local inhabitants who were watching him called the fire brigade, but what they actually saw was just a plasma event?
It's true - Francis had a cloud of soliton light combined with bioplasma. Solitons have a structural idea of the world.

I will be catching up with the posts and videos in this thread over the next week or so... it's been a strange year and I've been bogged down quite a bit with domestic issues that came out of nowhere and that has taken up a lot of head space -

cheers and thanks

(and thanks to all who have posted in the thread thus far)


:thumbsup:

[shaberon]

Interesting...I missed the response as well.

I would like to look into it when I have more time.

My guess is that, aside from matters of vocabulary, the replies closely match the expectations. Again, of course, these people are speaking from "measurements" and not "personal experience", the point being we are beginning to "measure" something more accurate and useful than previously.

[shaberon]

Artificial tinkering with the clock "gave" me some "time".


Not enough to be very thorough, but, at least to react to Dr. Adamski's responses.

The article requires something which was not a part of my scientific education, a mathematical abstract called the Soliton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soliton#:~:text=In%20mathematics%20and%20physics%2C%20a,other%20such%20localized%20wave%20packets.):


In mathematics and physics, a soliton is a nonlinear, self-reinforcing, localized wave packet that is strongly stable, in that it preserves its shape while propagating freely, at constant velocity, and recovers it even after collisions with other such localized wave packets. Its remarkable stability can be traced to a balanced cancellation of nonlinear and dispersive effects in the medium.


Its name comes from "solitary" plus "-on", the usual designation for a particle. It means a special class of stable wave envelopes, adding the caption to the image:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Sech_soliton.svg/539px-Sech_soliton.svg.png


A hyperbolic secant (sech) envelope soliton for water waves: The blue line is the carrier signal, while the red line is the envelope soliton.



So we are dealing with Soliton interactions in Plasma.

If most "solitons" are constructed by balanced, opposing forces, that bears similarity to the LaGrange Points, from which the Kordylewski Clouds were predicted--it sounds like they are effectively in Gravitational Solitons.


The interactions were emphasized by the heart being some 5,000 times more powerful than the brain in this regard. There is also a heavy emphasis on Spin--which may itself be Prime Motion. And the most important interface is Piezo. This is a very simple principle which converts any vibrations into electricity, or vice-versa. For instance, if you yell at a phonograph needle, it will produce an electrical signal just as if it were playing the groove of a record.

This difficulty may have been surpassed:


As for bioplasma and soliton measurements. Currently, electronics does not have measuring devices to measure them.


If they can, it is new stuff and we would have to examine and compare. But certainly for most of our history, it is "undetectable" by normal means.

In terms of "vocabulary", this is where there is some difficulty in distinguishing "consciousness" from "mental processes":



Consciousness is not the power to establish representations, meanings or senses, it only makes them visible to the subject. Consciousness is not cognitive in nature, it does not refer to anything, it is done by bioplasma, it only shows the transparency of the phenomenon, process, act, one's own behavior, feelings, motives, one's own situation in the world and in the community.



From older language, I might call that "Saksin" or "Luminous Witness", and, from the subjective point of view, it has long been ascertained that such a "raw" or "blank" non-actor resides in a field of actions it usually mistakes for itself. Also, he added that "light solitons" were more directly responsible for love and higher functions. And there were some statements about the localized production of light, apparently similar to a laser (coherent):




Consciousness results from the dynamic structure of collective quantum-cybernetic-information processes taking place in the brain bioplasm, which is in synergistic interaction with biocomputer simulation, guided by the emission of coherent light, modulated by soliton and spin waves. Coherent light makes consciousness coherent. Bioplasma is the medium in which the image is created and processed in accordance with its pattern. Consciousness remains connected with the brain, uses it as a tool, is independent of it and completely autonomous, because its functioning is not limited only to the space-time environment.


And in relation to the quantum of Spin:

Pumping magnons into the bioplasm causes the bioplasm to emit light and a very strong biological field...


And thanks for adding my question, which seems to have been warmly received, and, better yet, an indicator of purpose:



12 - You claim that the bioplasma process is based on piezoelectrics. Does this mean that chanting mantras has an effect on plasma and/or DNA?

YES - Piezoelectricity and pyroelectricity are a permanent feature of biological systems, through them we can influence biological structures - DNA and RNA, which will allow us to control the functioning of a biological cell.


This is in tandem with a warning that one of the worst dangers is free radicals.

You are in a delicate position, because oxygen is required to re-charge the Plasma, but, if the body does not interact in a healthy manner, then your cells effectively rust, or slowly cook.

Of course, that can largely be handled by a proper diet, and he says the best things are those which are free, such as sunlight and some exercise, and almost everything artificial is damaging. This seems pretty clear. Yet, even the state of physical health is not going to grant you the benefits of mantra.

So we have a set of essential guidelines for Body and Speech--and less for Mind, because we have more of a need to "forget" everything stressful, artificial, and external, so that Mind stops falsely identifying itself.


None of that contradicts, and mostly supports, everything I would have to say, coming from the more subjective or experiential side in the language of Yoga. That is important, since I, at least, have little interest in accumulating mountains of data, but, I *do* have an interest in that which can be objectively demonstrated, that is in favor of our inner struggles.

[wegge]

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Dan Winter and Tony Rodrigues go for a 3D animation of some sacred geometry - very insightful, at least for me! I hope we can see much more of this in the future.

[wegge]

In this snippet, taken from the Bob Greenyer interview in post #68, he talks about the possibilities of encoding information in the "toroidal moment." The toroidal moment happens when a vortex and an "anti-vortex" come together.

As I understand it, these are the next steps beyond current "frequency technologies," which work by imparting different kinds of information (frequencies). Bob also explains how we all have our own unique "cryptographic key," based on the info encoded in our very own toroidal moment (in our brains) with which we can tap into the askashic records // the universal cloud.

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[wegge]

Plasma and vortex science made more accessible for the lay person:

"Hi, this is the first in a series of videos to help share knowledge of plasma physics, exotic vacuum objects, aether whirlwinds and how we can access this force of nature to do work for us."


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[Reinhard]

Plasma and vortex science made more accessible for the lay person:

"Hi, this is the first in a series of videos to help share knowledge of plasma physics, exotic vacuum objects, aether whirlwinds and how we can access this force of nature to do work for us."


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Hi Wegge, great find!!! Thanks you for sharing........I'm beginning to understand......:sun:

[wegge]

An update on currently ongoing plasma research from Roger Green's ("breakthru-technologies.com" - website seems to be currenty down) email list:

MEASURING PLASMA ENERGY FROM THE THERAPHI (Dan Winter's invention) by Glen Rein, PhD edited by Roger Green

Plasma energy has garnered significant attention in recent years for its potential applications in health, wellness, and scientific research.

Plasmas are unique states of matter created when the charged particles (molecules, atoms, ions, and even free electrons) within a gas are energized to higher energy levels through an external stimulus. This stimulus is typically in the form of a high-energy signal, such as a laser, or a powerful electric field generated by technologies like Tesla coils.

When these external signals achieve resonance with the gas, ionization occurs, pushing the particles into real and virtual excited states.

Real excited states represent classical energy transitions, while virtual excited states exhibit quantum fluctuations, revealing their quantum nature and generating subtle quantum fields. As these excited particles return to their ground states, they release energy in multiple forms, including:

• Electromagnetic energy (measurable and widely studied).
• Plasma energy (a more subtle energetic form).
• Quantum energy (arising from quantum fluctuations).

When plasmas are set into rotational motion, they can emit spinor waves—energies associated with the rotational movement of charged particles. Moreover, if two plasmas counter-rotate in opposite directions, the interaction generates a scalar wave, a phenomenon often linked to non-local energetic effects and the potential to influence biological systems in novel ways.

Objective of Research

The research conducted by Dr. Glen Rein aims to develop innovative methods to measure and differentiate between these various types of energy. The ability to distinguish between electromagnetic, plasma, and quantum energies is essential for understanding their unique interactions with biological systems and their broader applications.

A significant focus of this research is the interaction between plasma energy and water—a vital medium for life—and its ability to store information from plasma energy. Dr. Rein’s earlier studies demonstrated that these energy imprints could be detected using impedance spectroscopy, a technique sensitive to the electrical properties of water and its clusters or domains. This approach is now being extended to explore the effects of plasma energy from the Theraphi device on water, DNA, and living cells.

Experimental Methods

1. Plasma Energy and Water

Water, being a universal solvent and a carrier of life-sustaining energy, plays a central role in these experiments. The plasma energy emitted by the Theraphi device is evaluated for its ability to resonate with water molecules and increase their electrical conductivity. This interaction provides insights into how plasma energy modifies the structure and electrical properties of water, enabling it to carry and store information.

2. Plasma Energy and DNA

DNA, as the blueprint of life, is also highly sensitive to external energetic influences. The electrical properties of DNA exposed to Theraphi plasma energy are assessed to determine changes in conductivity and resonance. These results are compared to an extensive database of energy signatures that distinguish the effects of various energy modalities on DNA.

3. Plasma Energy and Human Cells (Cheek Cells)
Initial studies have also been conducted on human cheek cells after the entire body is exposed to Theraphi plasma energy. These cells are analyzed for changes in their ability to conduct electrical energy. Such changes can reveal how plasma energy influences cellular communication and metabolic activity at a subtle level.

Preliminary Results

1 Effects on Water and DNA
The combination of energies emitted by the Theraphi has been shown to resonate strongly with water and DNA, leading to a significant increase in their electrical conductivity. These findings suggest that the plasma energy enhances the energetic potential of these biological systems by imprinting them with subtle energetic information.

2 Effects on Living Human Cells (Skin Cells in Tissue Culture)
Preliminary results from experiments on living human skin cells, grown in tissue culture and exposed to the Theraphi plasma energy, are promising. These cells exhibit a measurable increase in their production of ATP (adenosine triphosphate), the primary molecule for storing and transferring energy in cells. Even after only a few treatments, the increase in ATP suggests that plasma energy stimulates cellular metabolism and energy production.

3 Effects on Cellular Energy Flow
The Theraphi appears to enhance the flow of electrical energy both inside and around cells. This dual effect—boosting intracellular energy at the chemical level and promoting external electrical flow—may have significant implications for cellular repair, regeneration, and overall health.

Potential Benefits and Future Directions

The observed effects of the Theraphi device on water, DNA, and living cells indicate its potential as a powerful tool for promoting cellular health and vitality. However, the precise biochemical pathways stimulated by these energetic interactions remain unclear. Future research will focus on:

• Identifying specific pathways activated by plasma energy.
• Exploring long-term effects of Theraphi plasma energy on living cells and tissues.
• Expanding the study to include more diverse cell types and biological systems.
• Investigating the therapeutic potential of Theraphi for regenerative medicine and bioenergetic healing.

By advancing our understanding of how plasma energy interacts with biological systems, this research holds promise for a new frontier in energy medicine, where subtle energies can be harnessed to support health and well-being.

[Delight]

[QUOTE=RunningDeer;1571356][CENTER]“A New Science of Heaven: How the new science of plasma physics is
shedding light on spiritual experience," by Robert Temple


"Other revelations not previously known outside narrow academic disciplines include the evidence that in certain circumstances plasma exhibits features that suggest they may be in some sense alive: clouds of plasma have evolved double helixes, banks of cells and crystals, filaments and junctions which could control the flow of electric currents, thus generating an intelligence similar to machine intelligence. We may, in fact, have been looking for signs of extra-terrestrial life in the wrong place."




While awaiting a copy of this book from the library, I would very much appreciate any links from the book to peer-reviewed or other available online sources of the research listed in the quote above.

This directly relates to Paragraph 4 of my post on Introducing Edge theory.

Thx in advance.
N7

I have been listening to Robert temple's interviews.
I want to encourage people to pay attention to his work. IMO it is amazing synthesis and explaining so much!

Prof. Robert Temple | A New Science of Heaven | Origins Conference
10/2024

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[wondering]

Delight, this video with Robert Temple is wonderful, so worth watching. Thank you for posting. I couldn't understand the comment on Love made by the audience member...can you tell me what it was?

[Delight]

Delight, this video with Robert Temple is wonderful, so worth watching. Thank you for posting. I couldn't understand the comment on Love made by the audience member...can you tell me what it was?

So glad you like him too.
This was SO worth hearing and I am now on a quest to hear him in other interviews/presentation.
I think the audience comment was too low to really hear very well but I heard something like love is the act of creation?

Watching this next on vimeo (https://vimeo.com/857849036)

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[RickSyzer]

Hi there

A few questions about plasma (even though I'm going to read this book, which looks so interesting)

-How do these plasma have a connection in more conventional words with the cloud discovered by the Hungarians?

-How could they be a consciousness and is this the only topic talking about it? (here)

-Is it said in the topic and further that we could not "die" and also as bad new, not die either... what could it mean? Is it related to the system that imprisons us in the current 3D density and matrix? i mean, many topics mention the fact that without the proper ascension, we could get stuck at death. can u clarify this for me?

Thank you for all you do.

[jaybee]

Hi there

A few questions about plasma (even though I'm going to read this book, which looks so interesting)

-How do these plasma have a connection in more conventional words with the cloud discovered by the Hungarians?

-How could they be a consciousness and is this the only topic talking about it? (here)

-Is it said in the topic and further that we could not "die" and also as bad new, not die either... what could it mean? Is it related to the system that imprisons us in the current 3D density and matrix? i mean, many topics mention the fact that without the proper ascension, we could get stuck at death. can u clarify this for me?

Thank you for all you do.


welcome to the forum (and thread) RickSyzer... :thumbsup:

'the meaning of life the universe and everything'.... yes it would be great to get clarification on that..... :)........forgive me - I jest...... :whistle:


deep questions -


I'll pick up on the bolded and this is a quote from my Opening Post ....



In the interview another great quote - (there are many)....@43:33....


'There's the good news and then there's the bad news - the good news is that nobody dies - the bad news is................. nobody dies.....'


I think Robert Temple has what could be described as a wry sense of humour and I consider what he said (re quote above) deeply philosophical and a deceptively simple way to convey some really big thoughts about our existence and consciousness....

I (personally) don't think it was about being imprisoned - and that's all I can say by way of an answer to that...which isn't much but it's all I've got at the moment....

cheers

[shaberon]

-How do these plasma have a connection in more conventional words with the cloud discovered by the Hungarians?



I would say the important thing is there are at least sixteen kinds of known plasma.

I don't get the sense that "stellar dust" is necessarily "living" as we are -- however, plasma is capable of interactions with itself. A suggestion was made that the clouds could retain memory-like impressions, similar to a hard drive.


My personal response to the acknowledgement of the "Plasma Individual" is what it says in The Mahatma Letters.

They admire the fact that Dr. Crookes "tried" and got the Fourth State of Matter; they thought if he "tried" again, he might get the Fifth. They said if he got close to the Sixth, they would take him and bind him to secrecy.

As for the Seventh, they reacted to a Materialist Philosophe in the circle around Voltaire, Baron d'Holbach. The Baron had penned -- and it may have been anonymously -- that what we call consciousness was a material substance.

Therefor, the Plasma Individual is not really the consciousness itself, but its bridge to the electro-physical brain.

Whether it exists in a way that is part of the astral body, or after death, I do not know. First I would say it is more importantly related to how such consciousness is of the Sun. There isn't death because it isn't coming from this temporary body, it's like a drop of sunlight.

[wegge]

-How do these plasma have a connection in more conventional words with the cloud discovered by the Hungarians?



I would say the important thing is there are at least sixteen kinds of known plasma.

I don't get the sense that "stellar dust" is necessarily "living" as we are -- however, plasma is capable of interactions with itself. A suggestion was made that the clouds could retain memory-like impressions, similar to a hard drive.


My personal response to the acknowledgement of the "Plasma Individual" is what it says in The Mahatma Letters.

They admire the fact that Dr. Crookes "tried" and got the Fourth State of Matter; they thought if he "tried" again, he might get the Fifth. They said if he got close to the Sixth, they would take him and bind him to secrecy.

As for the Seventh, they reacted to a Materialist Philosophe in the circle around Voltaire, Baron d'Holbach. The Baron had penned -- and it may have been anonymously -- that what we call consciousness was a material substance.

Therefor, the Plasma Individual is not really the consciousness itself, but its bridge to the electro-physical brain.

Whether it exists in a way that is part of the astral body, or after death, I do not know. First I would say it is more importantly related to how such consciousness is of the Sun. There isn't death because it isn't coming from this temporary body, it's like a drop of sunlight.

What was the story behind the Mahatma Letters? One day they showed up at the Theosophists headquarters in India?

I recall Ingo Swann using an experimental setup, supposedly given in the Mahatma Letters (dark room, a magnet over his head and some kind of bronze[?] mirror) -- which blew his doors of perception too wide open, but which also resulted in his ability to see the sexual subtle bodies of people and thereby resulting in his book "Psychic Sexuality."

[shaberon]

What was the story behind the Mahatma Letters? One day they showed up at the Theosophists headquarters in India?

I recall Ingo Swann using an experimental setup, supposedly given in the Mahatma Letters (dark room, a magnet over his head and some kind of bronze[?] mirror) -- which blew his doors of perception too wide open, but which also resulted in his ability to see the sexual subtle bodies of people and thereby resulting in his book "Psychic Sexuality."


Good question. It's...a saga.

For me, personally, I did not know much about Theosophy. I explored most of the "systems" that were going around, via Golden Dawn or weird stuff like Eckankar, and none of it really stuck. I wound up in Buddhism. That stuck.

I found the Letters somewhere in a used book store, and immediately noticed the difficulty as to it being the first attempt to reveal Buddhism from the "inside" into the English language.

I pored over it and realized the later "Theosophical Society" had nothing to do with it.

When A. P. Sinnett passed away, his maid found the box, submitted it, and it was a tough decision to publish. In one area it says "not intended for publication", most likely because they were personal, individual responses to certain people, not any kind of "group teaching". But elsewhere it says "may be freely quoted without attribution". The latter view was chosen for the entire collection.

The set-up you mention is in there; it includes one's feet in a glass bowl. The mirror is highly polished copper, I think.

Now of course the gadgetry is merely an amplifier, such abilities are part of the human being, I have experienced it -- in fact I had to force it to stop. The best analogy is the science articles that go over the head of "Electric Body" (which anyone can sense) because "Plasma Body" is indeed finer, more subtle or softer.

As far as the Letters, some of them were written normally, some were telegrams, others were "precipitated", that is, teleported.

On that last note, Society for Psychic Research did everything they could to discredit it, but consider the source, Mme. Coulomb. Quite highly biased. None of those reports are useful.

Precipitation works something like a fax (line by line) and is also similar to the imprints of leaves that remain on rocks for ages.

The situation was that English people would not listen to anything without "proof", and so minor exercises like the appearance of letters were done to "prove" that there is an invisible world. Of course, they wanted more "proofs", and the transference of abilities to themselves, which was far from the point. They lost the point.

Dr. Crookes discovered Plasma in 1883, and it is only since 2015 that the west has allowed themselves to research it on a human level.

Another point made is how some substances retain everything that passes before them, similar to the "stellar dust" theory, but in this case it is plainly physical. The main operative is snow, There's no shortage of snow in Tibet. A weaker example is steel. It doesn't usually cover the landscape, but it lasts longer. This is not "psychic", but just an enhanced ability of the eyes. As I posted previously, the "psychic" equivalent -- that some say may be in the dust -- is obviously not physical. HPB called it "astral light", which is why the later phrase, "Akashic Records", is wrong. The later pseudo-Theosophical system of "planes" is not just an error; for someone of my ethos, it is tantamount to blasphemy. Of course, it stems from someone wanting to be "more right" than original Theosophy, which, in general, nobody took the first step of. And so this box of "inside information" is fascinating compared to the "one side" given in all other publications.

The conclusion is that out of over eighty disciples or "chelas", only four succeeded -- none European, all Indian.

It's very dry, It won't give any more details about the exercise mentioned -- the value is almost entirely in the language and the actual chain of events that took place. The closest thing to a doctrine imparted would be Squaring the Circle.

But, comparatively, if you think about a magnet spinning over your head, and go back to the first page or two of this thread where it has Alchemical "Rotation of the Elements", adding the principle of torque, so that rotation causes an upwards force, these must be the same.

Similarly, that the real colors of living light are at "right angles" compared to our normal vision, this is another axiom.

Curiously, there was one letter from Mahatma Narayan (who lived in south India, near Madras) that was not included, because it was independently published in some local magazine. However, it reads exactly the same as the ones from those Mahatmas who frequented Tibet. Where was Count St - Germain around 1756? Near Madras.

There is a visible back story, such as a similar outreach from the Tibetan Buddhists to the Maharaja of Benares in the 1770s. The original motto of the Theosophical Society is the motto of the Maharaja of Benares.

The actual writings of HPB were planned by someone else for over a hundred years.

It has mostly to do with the difficulties of penetrating the English language and brain.

The Letters for the most part are critiques of individuals, whether in terms of writing or behavior. The concession was made for England to become a vessel of Hermetics, rather than pushing Buddhism at it. And so what happened was, the London Lodge president, Anna Kingsford, took this notion and then submitted herself to Golden Dawn, which broke the process. They are collectors of fragments. The Hermetists were rather a living tradition that never spoke out. Comparatively, the work we never received would have been a Mahatma commentary on Eliphas Levi, who they say was close to the true occult principles, but cloaked in Christian garb, as this was necessary to gain readership, if not avoid persecution. You couldn't even put your name on an atheist tract.

Oppositely, the Mahatmas collected everything from the west, from the ancient philosophers to cutting-edge science. There would have been nothing you can tell them that they didn't already know.

[wegge]

What was the story behind the Mahatma Letters? One day they showed up at the Theosophists headquarters in India?

I recall Ingo Swann using an experimental setup, supposedly given in the Mahatma Letters (dark room, a magnet over his head and some kind of bronze[?] mirror) -- which blew his doors of perception too wide open, but which also resulted in his ability to see the sexual subtle bodies of people and thereby resulting in his book "Psychic Sexuality."


Good question. It's...a saga.

For me, personally, I did not know much about Theosophy. I explored most of the "systems" that were going around, via Golden Dawn or weird stuff like Eckankar, and none of it really stuck. I wound up in Buddhism. That stuck.

I found the Letters somewhere in a used book store, and immediately noticed the difficulty as to it being the first attempt to reveal Buddhism from the "inside" into the English language.

I pored over it and realized the later "Theosophical Society" had nothing to do with it.

When A. P. Sinnett passed away, his maid found the box, submitted it, and it was a tough decision to publish. In one area it says "not intended for publication", most likely because they were personal, individual responses to certain people, not any kind of "group teaching". But elsewhere it says "may be freely quoted without attribution". The latter view was chosen for the entire collection.

The set-up you mention is in there; it includes one's feet in a glass bowl. The mirror is highly polished copper, I think.

Now of course the gadgetry is merely an amplifier, such abilities are part of the human being, I have experienced it -- in fact I had to force it to stop. The best analogy is the science articles that go over the head of "Electric Body" (which anyone can sense) because "Plasma Body" is indeed finer, more subtle or softer.

As far as the Letters, some of them were written normally, some were telegrams, others were "precipitated", that is, teleported.

On that last note, Society for Psychic Research did everything they could to discredit it, but consider the source, Mme. Coulomb. Quite highly biased. None of those reports are useful.

Precipitation works something like a fax (line by line) and is also similar to the imprints of leaves that remain on rocks for ages.

The situation was that English people would not listen to anything without "proof", and so minor exercises like the appearance of letters were done to "prove" that there is an invisible world. Of course, they wanted more "proofs", and the transference of abilities to themselves, which was far from the point. They lost the point.

Dr. Crookes discovered Plasma in 1883, and it is only since 2015 that the west has allowed themselves to research it on a human level.

Another point made is how some substances retain everything that passes before them, similar to the "stellar dust" theory, but in this case it is plainly physical. The main operative is snow, There's no shortage of snow in Tibet. A weaker example is steel. It doesn't usually cover the landscape, but it lasts longer. This is not "psychic", but just an enhanced ability of the eyes. As I posted previously, the "psychic" equivalent -- that some say may be in the dust -- is obviously not physical. HPB called it "astral light", which is why the later phrase, "Akashic Records", is wrong. The later pseudo-Theosophical system of "planes" is not just an error; for someone of my ethos, it is tantamount to blasphemy. Of course, it stems from someone wanting to be "more right" than original Theosophy, which, in general, nobody took the first step of. And so this box of "inside information" is fascinating compared to the "one side" given in all other publications.

The conclusion is that out of over eighty disciples or "chelas", only four succeeded -- none European, all Indian.

It's very dry, It won't give any more details about the exercise mentioned -- the value is almost entirely in the language and the actual chain of events that took place. The closest thing to a doctrine imparted would be Squaring the Circle.

But, comparatively, if you think about a magnet spinning over your head, and go back to the first page or two of this thread where it has Alchemical "Rotation of the Elements", adding the principle of torque, so that rotation causes an upwards force, these must be the same.

Similarly, that the real colors of living light are at "right angles" compared to our normal vision, this is another axiom.

Curiously, there was one letter from Mahatma Narayan (who lived in south India, near Madras) that was not included, because it was independently published in some local magazine. However, it reads exactly the same as the ones from those Mahatmas who frequented Tibet. Where was Count St - Germain around 1756? Near Madras.

There is a visible back story, such as a similar outreach from the Tibetan Buddhists to the Maharaja of Benares in the 1770s. The original motto of the Theosophical Society is the motto of the Maharaja of Benares.

The actual writings of HPB were planned by someone else for over a hundred years.

It has mostly to do with the difficulties of penetrating the English language and brain.

The Letters for the most part are critiques of individuals, whether in terms of writing or behavior. The concession was made for England to become a vessel of Hermetics, rather than pushing Buddhism at it. And so what happened was, the London Lodge president, Anna Kingsford, took this notion and then submitted herself to Golden Dawn, which broke the process. They are collectors of fragments. The Hermetists were rather a living tradition that never spoke out. Comparatively, the work we never received would have been a Mahatma commentary on Eliphas Levi, who they say was close to the true occult principles, but cloaked in Christian garb, as this was necessary to gain readership, if not avoid persecution. You couldn't even put your name on an atheist tract.

Oppositely, the Mahatmas collected everything from the west, from the ancient philosophers to cutting-edge science. There would have been nothing you can tell them that they didn't already know.

fascinating, thank you for sharing a bit of context!

as for the real colors of living light at a right angle...

This is very interesting.

On this website (https://fractalfield.com/fractalphotosynthesis/) Dan Winter explains some physics behind photosynthesis and how the key wavelengths of light (red with a wavelength of 700nm and violet at 420nm) are harmonics to Planck [or approximate it very closely] - green actually is not and plants "spit it out."

Along these lines, Winter also explains why a 90° angle is considered "evil" in Feng Shui, because at 90° the energy cannot implode (go down the vortex), as compared to angles found in the fractal platonic solids like the dodecahedron or the icosahedron.




On another note, here is some interesting research regarding "ether dynamics," stemming from this link: https://galacticastrologyacademy.com/stargates/

"All movement therefore from the vibrations of atoms to the orbits of our planets and stars leaves their traces in the form of torsion waves in the ether.
A very remarkable phenomenon that Kozyrev discovered by rotating gyroscopes is that they lose very small but measurable amounts of weight.
Also firmly shaking objects could make objects lose weight.

Dr. Harold Aspden of Cambridge University discovered a related phenomenon. He attached a powerful magnet to a gyroscope and spun it at high speeds.
He measured the amount of energy required to accelerate the gyroscope to full speed to be a 1000 Joules.

Now to his surprise when he stopped the gyroscope from spinning and restarted the gyroscope to spin again within 60 seconds after it stopped,
it required 10 times less energy to spin the gyroscope to the same speed. The spin of the gyroscope had added extra spin to the ether that sustains the gyroscope
that lasted for a while before it wore off, rather like the momentum stored in the tea of a teacup after stirring it with a teaspoon.
We now know that spinning magnets are strong torsion wave generators.

The counter rotating Phi spiralling electromagnetic waves in the implosion physics of Dan Winter that spiral into the nucleus of the atom,
likewise cancel the electromagnetic components of the electromagnetic waves and results in a torsion wave.
Russian science has actually many names for Dan Winter's electromagnetic energy vortexes such as spin fields, torsion fields and axion fields"


I've personally felt these field generate in my circlewalking/Bagua practice, where after a while of walking in a circle, the energy field starts to "carry" you around in the circle and you yourself have to do less.

At minute 7:10 of this video he shows whirls getting created in the water. We can imagine creating these same whirls as we walk through the air (ether), thus creating little whirls that give us a push from the back

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[shaberon]

On this website (https://fractalfield.com/fractalphotosynthesis/) Dan Winter explains some physics behind photosynthesis and how the key wavelengths of light (red with a wavelength of 700nm and violet at 420nm) are harmonics to Planck [or approximate it very closely] - green actually is not and plants "spit it out."


The sun is green.

They don't *need* that much of the particular frequency.

If they absorb red and violet, that is what they "are", and the cast-off color is what they are not.

The root (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/colore) of this word:


Etymology
From Latin color, from Old Latin colos, from Proto-Indo-European *ḱel- (“to hide, conceal”).


having another similar derivation (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hele#English):


hele


Etymology 2
From Middle English helen, helien, from Old English helan (“to conceal, cover, hide”, strong verb) and helian (“to conceal, cover, hide”, weak verb), from Proto-West Germanic *helan, from Proto-Germanic *helaną (“to conceal, stash, receive stolen goods”) and Proto-Germanic *haljaną (“to hull, conceal”); both from Proto-Indo-European *ḱel- (“to hide”).

Cognate with Scots heal (“to cover, hide, conceal”), Saterland Frisian hela (“to conceal”)


So "color" has essentially the same meaning as "occult".

hele (third-person singular simple present heles, present participle heling, simple past and past participle heled)

(rare, now chiefly dialectal or archaic) To hide, conceal, and keep secret, especially for a secret society (such as the masons).
(rare, now especially in the phrase "hele in") To cover or conceal (a seedling, plant, roots, etc).


A wound "heals" because it has "covered" itself.


And so, again, I am hampered by the difficulty of expressing the ideas in this language. But it is the same as Lilac Chaser on page one or so of the thread. There is a chance some people may be aware of the Tattva (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattva) symbols:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Tattva_alap.png




It's the same thing, but slower. If I stare at black space for a while -- what happens -- its opposite, or complement appears, then it will be white space. But then you must not be seeing the "reflected" color any more -- something subjective takes over. It's bigger and more powerful. When you transit from one type of vision to the other, then, it seems to me that you have harnessed the "Plasma Individual". Your brain has used plasma as the bridge to something that is not of this world, because you have re-aligned and harmonized the "flux" that is the source of health problems.

Having been a receiver of such arcane lights, I would still say they "look" like plasma, although I cannot be certain that is what they are.

It may, indeed, be seeing things by your own "ray", rather than an external one.


It's in this definition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene):


A phosphene is the phenomenon of seeing light without light entering the eye.

Phosphenes have also been reported by meditators (called nimitta)...


with a piece of nascent research:


A possible use of phosphenes as part of a brain to brain communication system has been reported. The system called BrainNet, produces phosphenes using transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS). The goal of the research is to connect thoughts brain to brain using a system where signals are detected using electroencephalography (EEG) and delivered using transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS). An experiment was conducted with five different groups, each containing three people. The subjects were split into two groups. Two subjects functioned as the senders, and were connected to EEG electrodes, and a third person functioned as the receiver, who wore the TMS helmet. Each person was stationed in front of a television screen with a Tetris-style game. The senders had to determine if there was a need to rotate the falling blocks, but without the ability to rotate them – only the receiver was able to perform this operation. At the edges of each screen, were two icons with two flashing lights in two different frequencies, (one at 15 Hz and the other at 17 Hz). The sender focused on one icon, or the other to signal that the block should be rotated to the right or the left. The EEG produced a unique signal, which was transmitted to the TMS helmet of the receiver, who perceived phosphenes which differed for the 15 Hz and 17 Hz signal, and rotated the block in the relevant direction. The experiment achieved 81% success.


but they tell me you have to close your eyes.

No you don't.

I've never not seen them everywhere, permanently.

Mainly blue, yellow, red, and pink.

Open or closed eyes, same thing, never ceasing.

Because this is hardwired to my biology, I have no idea, is this baseline normal for others?

The subtle or soft illumination that is capable of emanating from them is so powerful, I can only attempt to describe it in reverse. I don't practice what I practice these days, because you can't do it without the appropriate environment such as the Tibetan dark room. At the last house I lived in a few years ago, I got a little bit better opportunity. I did the preparations and then, when I focused on the visual field, the physical light from one tiny LED of the number lock on a keyboard six feet away felt like an infinite spear ramming through my brain. It was unbearable.

Because it never completely goes away, since then, I had a few daytime eruptions stimulated by sunlight. It was exquisite.

But you better not drive like that.

It was one of the warnings I got when I was young. You don't want to be going sixty-five down the highway and then the world melts and vanishes. That happened. It didn't scare me at all, I had to think about it later and decide to suppress it.

Aside from measuring frequencies, biologists and psychologists have no clue what color is or how vision works.

I have definite experience, which I have not discovered in any western sources.

[wegge]

This is a snippet from part 3 of Chris' rotas series (see post #86 for exmple).

He eplains how the basic ingredients for an implosion (plus cold fusion) to happen are charge separated molecules (as he shows in water) plus turbulence.

He describes this cold fusion (implosion) as a cleaning mechanism of nature, as it transmutes heavier elements into lighter ones (see quick reference in the video).

SO I'M WONDERING NOW, are we as humans living in a planetary cold fusion event? All the ingredients are here, massively polarized (charge separated?) humans plus a lot of turbulence. PLUS, in a fractal twist to the story, the science and understanding of implosion is making a comeback.

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[Delight]

Robert Temple keeps saying in every video that we are plasma beings. I am a plasma being. Plasma can be gaseous, liquid or crystal. I am contemplating what this means. One thing that keeps coming up from my contemplation is how my relationship with PLASMA should be able to bring every quality needed for my energy body. Is it possible that what we call chakras are plasma crystals, what we experience as feeling is liquid plasma. By feelings I mean the qualia that some reference as opposed to the ideas. The gaseous aspect is spirit itself? Thoughts are things created.

And the particles are expression of plasma so all the materia is an expression of plasma? And some "non human intelligences" live close by to us. If we have no idea that we are plasma beings, we can be influenced to create the "ideas" from NHI? Questions and contemplation.


Is the Universe Conscious? Jeffrey Mishlove discusses Robert Temple's book, A New Science of Heaven.
1/26/2025

Plasma is the fourth state of matter and the other three - gas, liquid and solids - emerge out of plasma. This Live Stream Events will focus on how over 99% of the universe is made of plasma and how there are two gigantic clouds of plasma, called the Kordylewski Clouds, hovering between the Earth and the Moon, only recently discovered by astronomers in Hungary. Other revelations not previously known outside narrow academic disciplines include the evidence that in certain circumstances plasma exhibits features that suggest they may be in some sense alive: clouds of plasma have evolved double helixes, banks of cells and crystals, filaments and junctions which could control the flow of electric currents, thus generating an intelligence similar to machine intelligence. We may, in fact, have been looking for signs of extra-terrestrial life in the wrong place. This hypothesis is relevant to our understanding of UFO/UAP phenomena.

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[wegge]

Here's a video about Dan Winter's plasma device, the Theraphi. I share my own experience with it and show a variety of wild testimonials

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[jaybee]

Here's a video about Dan Winter's plasma device, the Theraphi. I share my own experience with it and show a variety of wild testimonials

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Great stuff wegge... thanks for sharing your presentation about 'Theraphi'....first time I've heard about it -

Maybe our Higher Selves reside permanently in the Plasma Universe and Theraphi could help us link up directly and more strongly while we are going through the time allocated for our Earthly existence - an existence that can be tough at times - a bit of a short cut to accessing the Higher Self....when we need to or just want to... :)

just having a ponder after watching your video...

cheers :thumbsup:

[wegge]

I definitely think it can make us more aware of the plasma world yes. Best case would be to have something in your house so you can engage with it on a regular basis and get more of a feeling for it than just going into 1 session and hoping for the big breakthrough.