Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

[Rizotto]

"Jeremy Loffredo visits the scorched town of Lahaina, Hawaii and meets survivors of one of the worst mass casualty disasters on American soil in recent history. The mostly indigenous locals tell Loffredo why they believe the fires were no accident, and vent their rage at the wealthy developers and investment firms they view as a flock of vultures circling over the ruins of their community."
Fan the flames: Lahaina on fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ70c6pERe4&lc=UgxsIFC7Oc5LRsP0RCx4AaABAg

[thepainterdoug]

Thanks Rizotto/ The last speaker was very powerful, and even still with all to be comprehended, she was calm and under control considering the unimaginable suffering, death, and indifference of this government
This is possibly the strangest event I can think of, even beyond 9/11

[mountain_jim]

Tulsi Gabbard on the Response to the Maui Wildfires
Joe Rogan interview - September 7, 2023 - 10 minute video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vMNbuxFvrg

adding this tweet/xeet coverage of this for those who like text summaries

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1699899978582491464?s=20

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KanekoaTheGreat
@KanekoaTheGreat
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@JoeRogan and @TulsiGabbard
discuss the devastating Lahaina fire, the government blocking food and supplies, predatory investors swooping in to buy up homes, and the stark contrast between $700 sent to Lahaina households and the billions sent to Ukraine.

"What I heard over and over again was no one from the county, state, or the federal government has shown their face in our community. It's neighbors helping neighbors. Families helping families.

People on the island of Moloka‘i... are loading up whatever they have in their general store on these little boats and running them to a private boat dock on West Maui because that's the only place they wouldn't be blocked from bringing food, water, and medical supplies...

I don't have a good answer as to why they continued to block the roads. Why they blocked Kai Lenny and others from using their boats and jet skis to bring supplies in through the water. You can say that they were trying to secure the area, but you're blocking friends and families from bringing necessary supplies in...

Why aren't you communicating with the people? The results of their decisions left people, families, and communities stranded in their most dire time of need, and the mayor didn't show his face until almost two weeks after the fire happened.

@JoeRogan
: How is it possible that these people could lose their homes and then lose their land?

[mountain_jim]

sorry if posted already - hard to keep up

https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1700117998239977609?s=20

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[norman]

GLOBALISTS ARE BUILDING THEIR NEW WORLD ON THE ASHES OF YOUR OLD ONE—Can you see it now?
09/06/2023 BY DROWNINGINABSURDITY

https://drowninginabsurdity.files.wordpress.com/2022/05/leadolympics-1.jpg

THE PHOENIX

Someone once remarked, in relation to the network of hidden hands (globalists) working against the best interests of the people, that “signs and symbols will be their downfall”. I don’t know about that, but there’s no question they love their symbols. Symbols are also what you might call their “tell”.

The Phoenix symbol, in particular, is worth paying special attention to. They don’t use this symbol or reference to mean good triumphing over evil, nor does it imply a David vs. Goliath moment akin to common people successfully rising up against tyrants. In globalist circles it means quite the opposite: it represents their triumph over you. More precisely, it specifically represents their Order-out-of-Chaos methods and operations. The entire point of using order-out-of-chaos, for them, is to eventually build THEIR new world on the ashes of YOUR old one. And why not? They’ve had remarkable success in doing it before—and yes, they quite literally burned down a number of large cities in the past.

continue reading . . . . . . (https://drowninginabsurdity.org/2023/09/06/globalists-are-building-their-new-world-on-the-ashes-of-your-old-one-can-you-see-it-now/)

[thepainterdoug]

Im disappointed in Tulsi. She sounds weak, cautious, and trying to have a nice show. She should be outraged!!! Shes not.

the answer why they all wont get new houses is simple, this is purposeful !!! its a plan!!! , to get the native Hawaiians off their land. Its a land grab and these ruthless globalists will stop at nothing

[norman]

This geek talking to Jeffrey Prather thinks he's sussed what and 'who' zapped Lahaina. After backwards calculating satellite positions he claims 2 Chinese satellites were over the target at the right time. He also claims he knows China has launched such a satellite that can do that, and he thinks it was done using near infra red ( that could explain the blue objects not being damaged ).

BREAKING: CHINA SATELLITES FIRED MAUI!

https://www.brighteon.com/bf2d43b1-ab78-4e77-99bc-87513ead84ed

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[Raskolnikov]

Recent update from Eric West (Hawaii Real Estate):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbw-jpqKsyo

[Raskolnikov]

Apologies up front, this is like listening to the worst Hollywood tabloid - vomit! - but still kinda interesting...

WILL AND JADA SMITH BUY AND SELL PROPERTY IN MAUI

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[Raskolnikov]

Wouldn't doubt if this is true too, yet another motive to burn em out. Supposedly a major payout was due in September for Hawaii homestead land descendents.

The Hawaiian people have waited 26 years for a decision on this class action lawsuit and they won!! Payouts were to begin in September and right before the Lahaina fire happened...... What do you think? Did they not want them to get what was rightfully theirs'?

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[Johnnycomelately]

FREEZE-DRIED ORGANIC BANANAS (advert at bottom of thumbnail), let’s talk about that. Sounds more interesting than this vidcast.

I am not impressed with these guys’ arguments. Have watched to about halfway.

The host is blindly hyping the China satellite idea (gushed about microwave hypothetical weapons, got shut down by the guest).

The guest makes handwaving claims (Long March payload capacity is enough for required capacitors, Solar-electric arrays could gather full recharge energy in one orbit (about 20:—, iirc). He says that blue objects may have been spared because they shouldn’t absorb infrared from the beams, but the fires went way beyond ignition. No mention of the blast furnace that that dry wind fed. IMO, the ‘blue-effect’, if true deserves study. The colour might have something to do with those items not burning, but the infrared of the raging fires far exceeded what some fraction of 40 tonnes worth of capacitors could put out.

Anybody who watched the second half, did the show try to explain what the CCP had to gain, from such an op? Any “doing the math” of co$t vs. benefit$? According to the leading current conspiracy theory, that would put the CCP in the pockets of the Biden-tribe, but I thought it was the other way around.

Lastly, does anybody else think that the US team would know all about such an attack, and that it would be an act of war?


This geek talking to Jeffrey Prather thinks he's sussed what and 'who' zapped Lahaina. After backwards calculating satellite positions he claims 2 Chinese satellites were over the target at the right time. He also claims he knows China has launched such a satellite that can do that, and he thinks it was done using near infra red ( that could explain the blue objects not being damaged ).

BREAKING: CHINA SATELLITES FIRED MAUI!

https://www.brighteon.com/bf2d43b1-ab78-4e77-99bc-87513ead84ed

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[Raskolnikov]

These government bureaucrats are infuriating. And he has the nerve to say, "Today is meant to be a day of clarity," after he is anything but clear and forthcoming. And this was touching, "When 9/11 happened, we ended up having a whole industry of security that developed. Now that the Lahaina fire has happened and some of these other fires across the globe, I believe you're going to see a whole swath of policy that speaks to an era of climate change with superstorms. And I'm going to speak at the UN I think in a week from Sunday. And I'm going to give this speech. In the era of climate change with enhanced storms everyone is vulnerable. And I hope that that begins to resonate with people because if we're going to have these sustainability goals, they should include this kind of response."

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[Raskolnikov]

Paddle outs took place yesterday on Maui and Waikiki Beach, Oahu to commemorate and show solidarity with the people of Lahaina affected by the fire one month ago.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOhuMa3DO4I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcNtzHXN5BE

[Raskolnikov]

Jimmy Dore and guest host Craig “Pasta” Jardula discuss the Lahaina land grab. Craig just returned from Lahaina and spoke with many of the locals.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vs_ZS9F9Hk

Here they discuss Oprah and The Rock being vampires with comedian Chrissie Mayr.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdB6xz3jVLI

[ExomatrixTV]

So, They Finally Caught Them...

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Weather modification is the act of intentionally manipulating or altering the weather. The most common form of weather modification is cloud seeding, which increases rain or snow, usually for the purpose of increasing the local water supply. Weather modification can also have the goal of preventing damaging weather, such as hail or hurricanes, from occurring; or of provoking damaging weather against the enemy, as a tactic of military or economic warfare like Operation Popeye, where clouds were seeded to prolong the monsoon in Vietnam. Weather modification in warfare has been banned by the United Nations under the Environmental Modification Convention.

[Raskolnikov]

Weather modification in warfare has been banned by the United Nations under the Environmental Modification Convention.

Guess they don't like competition.

[Inversion]

PROOF CHINA SATELLITES OVER MAUI/PRATHER BRIEF
9/7/23 link (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/proof-of-china-satellites-over-maui-at-fire-starts/)

UPDATE: 09/11/23: This is an apparent space platform reentering the atmosphere. The video was taken from Kenai, Alaska. Post#35920 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1576687&viewfull=1#post1576687)

Yeah, that was a really good show and I watched it on Project Camelot (https://projectcamelotportal.com/2023/09/09/proof-our-dod-was-workng-with-ccp-globalists-attacking-our-own-country/). Steve Favis got the satellite info from readily available NORAD data. They call the suspect satellites Unknowns. At 21:38 he shows the tracking data. He believes the green lasers (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1573409&viewfull=1#post1573409) are range finders for the primary weapon. Towards the end of the show, he said we're in an AI war and the best bet is to create a better one. He said there may be hyper-capacitors on the satellites because of the power source needed.

Mystery of Egypt: The First Tunnel (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72970-The-Bucegi-Mountain-Romania&p=1339407&viewfull=1#post1339407)

They got into second generation specialized vehicles that ran off atomic/quantum batteries and they had an autopilot mode.

https://projectcamelotportal.com/wp-content/uploads/chinese-satellite-pass.png

[norman]

General Mike Flynn truthed this video on Friday morning with the words, “If you don’t want “conspiracy theories”, don’t start conspiracies…”


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If you don't want your house to burn in a disaster, sign up for operation blue roof . . . no kidding!

[Inversion]

General Mike Flynn truthed this video on Friday morning with the words, “If you don’t want “conspiracy theories”, don’t start conspiracies…”

Video from post#518

The conference meeting at Alohilani Resort discussed at 5:57 is the same MO as Bush junior being at a school reading a book to kids while 9/11 was going down. It's plausible deniability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability) or a staged alibi. David Wynn Miller (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118514-David-Wynn-Miller&p=1496534&viewfull=1#post1496534) said 9/11 was seventeen trillion dollar heist which resonates with the book. The Department of War moved ships out of Pearl Harbor before the attack which implies foreknowledge. Florida's (https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_mottos) saying is "In God We Trust" which is on the back of the one dollar bill.


Steelers (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1572471&viewfull=1#post1572471)

The Pet Goat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pet_Goat) aka My Pet Goat.

The exercise tells a story about a girl's pet goat, which her parents want to get rid of because it eats everything; the parents relent after it foils a robbery by butting the intruder, who is now "sore"
The word sore anagrams to rose or ores which matches the MO for the Afghanistan invasion on 10/07/01 or 26 days later.

wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_Afghanistan#:~:text=Afghanistan%20has%20over%201%2C400%20mineral,lazuli%2C%20red%20garnet% 20and%20ruby.)

Afghanistan has over 1,400 mineral fields,[1][2][3] containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semi-precious stones, salt, sulfur, lithium, talc, and zinc, among many other minerals.[1][4][5] Gemstones include high-quality emeralds, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby.

The real truth behind the Taliban that are now in control of Afghanistan... (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115997-The-real-truth-behind-the-Taliban-that-are-now-in-control-of-Afghanistan...&p=1447196&viewfull=1#post1447196) Post#70

Biden may have just gifted China an opportunity to grab Afghanistan’s considerable reserves of rare earth metals, including the world’s largest lithium deposits, and cement its domination of the market for these crucial minerals.

[norman]

Errr . . about that Operation Blue Roof . . . ( I'm still flabbergasted ) . . . . here's a more complete version of the clip.


Operation Blue Roof
1 min 13 sec

https://rumble.com/v3ghka9-operation-blue-roof-a-post-lahaina-fire-mind-boggle.html

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[Rizotto]

Apologies if this is a repeat, but MUST WATCH this video. How could a car surrounded by a gravel strip burn so intensely? Anybody here has an explanation?

“MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9L9WvlCli0&t=1724s

[Raskolnikov]

Agreed Norman, that Operation Blue Roof? Wtf?

In honor of tomorrow, here's a comparison of the two:

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The burn pattern matches those seen in war zones:

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[Raskolnikov]

Another thing that's bugging me besides the missing children is the people talking about explosions during the fire. Spud said house after house just exploded. I understand that many homes had propane tanks but were they really large enough to make the whole house explode and turn into ash? Seems unlikely to me, they can do serious damage of course, but the damage would be contained to the immediate surroundings, blow apart nearby walls and surrounding structure but not eviscerate the entire home. Please fill me in if I'm wrong here.

That said, this guy at the end of this video says, "It was like an explosion going off everywhere... Like a fire goddess just like throwing fireballs all over the place."

Just doesn't sound like the normal way wildfires burn...

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[Raskolnikov]

Interesting test on how to protect yourself from microwaves. May explain the water being turned off, and tin foil hats.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk_SJrmj-5Y

[Raskolnikov]

Was watching this examination of the Hawaii Real Estate drone footage and was immediately struck by the impossibility of the burn pattern (see attached photos below, the first one is especially ridiculous and impossible). Nice slow examination, start at 3:30 to skip intro.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDmcm2mD4UE

In this video I take a look at the Hawaii Real Estate Drone Footage of the Lahaina, Maui Fire. People have noticed the oddity of the color blue not burning. But after reviewing the very thorough footage Hawaii Real Estate was able to capture, the picture is much clearer. There are many things out of place and I am sure you will notice more than even I point out. Check out this footage with me, and see for yourself just why people aren't buying the main stream narrative.

[Johnnycomelately]

Was watching this examination of the Hawaii Real Estate drone footage and was immediately struck by the impossibility of the burn pattern (see attached photos below, the first one is especially ridiculous and impossible). Nice slow examination, start at 3:30 to skip intro.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDmcm2mD4UE

In this video I take a look at the Hawaii Real Estate Drone Footage of the Lahaina, Maui Fire. People have noticed the oddity of the color blue not burning. But after reviewing the very thorough footage Hawaii Real Estate was able to capture, the picture is much clearer. There are many things out of place and I am sure you will notice more than even I point out. Check out this footage with me, and see for yourself just why people aren't buying the main stream narrative.

Watched all of this vid, didn’t hear anything about wind. Not one word.

I have made mistakes such as I see (IMO) being made here. “Jumping on solutions”, as warned against by an engineering prof once, in my freshman year.

I hope that the serious questions, about such as possible conventional arson, and motives pertaining to both immediate and following responses, don’t get watered down by fantastical conspiracy content like this. One sign of insincerity here is the funeral dirge music track, doesn’t help its credibility.

Raskolnikov, if you’re not just trolling here, then I wish you well. I have been paranoid, intentionally for a period of several years, and I had lots of weird happenings in my life. When I quit that hobby/mindset, my life got a lot easier. Cheers, and peace.

[norman]

I've seen enough to know that beam weapons exist. The only paper trail I know of yet points to the US government/military. Other operators are likely but I've not seen evidence for that yet.

The 9/11 evidence and the Maui evidence has matching characteristics.

Assigning a culprit for both is quite a hefty ponder.

[Raskolnikov]

Was watching this examination of the Hawaii Real Estate drone footage and was immediately struck by the impossibility of the burn pattern (see attached photos below, the first one is especially ridiculous and impossible). Nice slow examination, start at 3:30 to skip intro.

Watched all of this vid, didn’t hear anything about wind. Not one word.

I have made mistakes such as I see (IMO) being made here. “Jumping on solutions”, as warned against by an engineering prof once, in my freshman year.

I hope that the serious questions, about such as possible conventional arson, and motives pertaining to both immediate and following responses, don’t get watered down by fantastical conspiracy content like this. One sign of insincerity here is the funeral dirge music track, doesn’t help its credibility.

Raskolnikov, if you’re not just trolling here, then I wish you well. I have been paranoid, intentionally for a period of several years, and I had lots of weird happenings in my life. When I quit that hobby/mindset, my life got a lot easier. Cheers, and peace.

Listen, I hear ya and appreciate your concerns Johnnycomelately. Definitely not trolling. This stuff really bothers me, ever since the Paradise fire which I knew was DEW as well - wildfires don't behave that way to burn homes to ashes while leaving all trees almost untouched. Too many similarities in Maui. I posted the above because it gives a great overview of the burn patterns. Whether you like the commentator's style or not is up to you. She did focus on a couple of the same issues I had - the very impossible burn patterns in a couple locations. Just adding up to more evidence of foul play imo. Peace.

[Harmony]

Even though I experienced a different fire, I can see many similar things in the reports that I always felt were "wrong" when I experienced the situation back in 2009 and there was less information to go on in those days.


There also was the strange burnt to powdery ash homes and buildings. Some had no trees around them, just very short grass out in the middle of paddocks. I saw wooden houses with trees up close to them that nothing happened to. There was melted aluminim from vehicles. There were police cars going up and down highways and roads but no warnings given to the people before the fire arrived. It took a very long time for help to finally come. Some people were burned and still alive and no help came for 2 days for some. The power went out and there was no electricity for weeks. The area was closed off and no one allowed back in beyond a certain point. People died all around where I lived and the animals some people photographed were all bloated and strange.


The news and the information from the inquest was not correct to what actually happened from reports that initially came in regarding people burned up, and I even filmed a helicoptor that could see the whole thing but in final reports "no one knew". I know the person who reported the first dead body early the first afternoon. I know a person who heard the fire radio reports and they knew where the fire was and coming quickly towards the towns. I know a person who brought this to the attention of the police. I know a person who knew the police chief then. I went to see where the head fire chief lived where he said he didn't know anything was going on and it had full view of all the foothills on fire burning for many many miles. There were many things that did not make sense. I kind of feel I need to say this for the people of Lahina and not to stop "knowing" something is really wrong and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


There was these seemingly "Catastrophic fire" danger warnings the few days before the fires, mmm" I have heard the same thing over and over again with new fires that have burned large areas of coastal Australia, the towns and people too, and you can kind of know which ones are coming and not natural. I saw the fire I was in during a deep meditation and exactly where it would be coming from two weeks earlier. I pray for all those that suffered so and still do :heart:

[Raskolnikov]

This governor Green is something else, an obedient puppet like Biden towing the company line and spitting in the face of Lahaina. A reporter asks if the people deserve an apology for so much negligence concerning the fire and this was his response:

"It's the world that has to apologize for what we have become which is we have become a world where we turned our backs on global warming."

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[Raskolnikov]

Watched all of this vid, didn’t hear anything about wind. Not one word.

I have made mistakes such as I see (IMO) being made here. “Jumping on solutions”, as warned against by an engineering prof once, in my freshman year.

I hope that the serious questions, about such as possible conventional arson, and motives pertaining to both immediate and following responses, don’t get watered down by fantastical conspiracy content like this. One sign of insincerity here is the funeral dirge music track, doesn’t help its credibility.

Raskolnikov, if you’re not just trolling here, then I wish you well. I have been paranoid, intentionally for a period of several years, and I had lots of weird happenings in my life. When I quit that hobby/mindset, my life got a lot easier. Cheers, and peace.

Something's still bugging me about your post. You say, "I hope that the serious questions, about such as possible conventional arson, and motives pertaining to both immediate and following responses, don’t get watered down by fantastical conspiracy content like this." Is it really that fantastical? I appreciate a desire to look at it strictly adhering to a scientifically objective and unbiased analysis of the data. But what credibility really needs help here. That these weapons exist? Check. That they've been used this way before? Check.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/07/12/USAT/53a9c18e-7e28-4699-a825-4f0beee4ca13-AP_Paradise_Population_Count.JPG?width=540&height=&fit=bounds&auto=webp

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.h3Ylv56pUKVGQB5ftdDIRQHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=d1dc7aaf957bed477c6aaab9c6a1ab77c37e0cfc5ea25d71e7f249281c8e43b8&ipo=images

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.8xWYMzFvCYnyTe00YYWe0QHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=dd59a55446206da20e66475ff3bd30e5fd72940453d5a45c2f857ff63c6989a2&ipo=images

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.kfzCZxgtInB5bDZ-hU1UxQHaEa%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=e2bac25e7512f36d4c9e214cfb1bd753a97f8acac46713b352775e806303dd8e&ipo=images

That the Hawaiians were never going to give up that land and the powers-that-be have already planned a new AI controlled Smart City there? Check.

So what exactly are you talking about when you say fantastical conspiracy content? I want to remain on good terms with everyone here and have a positive and intelligent conversation where we can discuss things openly but I'm a little offended by your comments. Paranoid? Wtf are you talking about? Are you not paying attention? I think the simple fact that we're talking at Project Avalon where Bill Ryan and KC proved long ago that everything we're discussing has already been well established by hundreds, if not thousands, of whistleblowers and people in the industry proves that it is by no means "fantastical conspiracy content."

No disrespect meant here, I wish you well as well, but do not imply that I'm being paranoid, because that is being disrespectful.

[thepainterdoug]

Of course these weapons exist. They have even displayed them to us. And btw, just about every unimaginable futuristic weapon and device does exist.
Just look at DARPA and Boston Dynamics videos . Its beyond imaginable what they have and thats what we get to see. Believe in medbeds? I do, and have read too much about them from too many sources to not.

i believe if they want to create or fabricate anything global warming, they can and will from earthquakes to hurricanes and so on. They will do whatever the gang of power-mongers decide they want to do . In fact they must need us lemmings to do the dirty work , pay taxes etc or we would be dead already

Now the question is, when and where are these weapons used? I cannot say. If I was them, I would make it look like DEW when it wasnt, and vice versa. Just like the jabbs. Some potent killers, other saline, thus driving the truth seekers off a cliff of confusion.

easy friends, were all in this together

[Inversion]

This event has a probable connection to the Maui fires. It's an apparent space platform reentering the atmosphere. The video was taken from Kenai, Alaska which is west of Anchorage. The satellite tracks in Post#517 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1576368&viewfull=1#post1576368) show the unknown objects passing over that state in Post#35920 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1576687&viewfull=1#post1576687).

[nzn]

Of course these weapons exist. They have even displayed them to us. And btw, just about every unimaginable futuristic weapon and device does exist.
Just look at DARPA and Boston Dynamics videos . Its beyond imaginable what they have and thats what we get to see. Believe in medbeds? I do, and have read too much about them from too many sources to not.

i believe if they want to create or fabricate anything global warming, they can and will from earthquakes to hurricanes and so on. They will do whatever the gang of power-mongers decide they want to do . In fact they must need us lemmings to do the dirty work , pay taxes etc or we would be dead already

Now the question is, when and where are these weapons used? I cannot say. If I was them, I would make it look like DEW when it wasnt, and vice versa. Just like the jabbs. Some potent killers, other saline, thus driving the truth seekers off a cliff of confusion.

easy friends, were all in this together

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "medbed"?

[Johnnycomelately]

Hi Raskolnikov. I’m sorry I ruffled your feathers.

I have looked a bit further down this rabbit hole, and am now fine saying I don’t know.

Shoutout to Blastolabs for my new curiosity, watched all except ~20 of the first ~30 minutes. Am not fully on side with this ubertech talk, but it is interesting.

I know and state, that I believe that tech exists that is way beyond our normal earthly public knowledge. My reticence to entertain the idea that earthly powers have harnessed some of these for nefarious purposes, may be just down to nostalgia.

Here is the reference vid that got my consideration. The only time stamp I took was a laugh, at ~2:46:50 /2:47:29.


This is the most in depth and detailed video I have ever watched that supports Judy Wood's hypothesis.

Bob Greenyer (https://remoteview.substack.com/) is a scientist that investigates cold fusion also known as LENR (www.lenr-canr.org/)

When he first saw the evidence and realized that this technology had been used on 9/11, he wept. He knew that the suppression of LENR/ cold fusion would only increase after this event.

Picture is a key that was found at ground zero. That is why they removed all the steel so fast because they knew it provided evidence for the type of weapon that was used.

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Andrew Johnson joins Bob Greenyer to discuss a scientific basis for a complete understanding of happenings surrounding 'The Event' with reference to characters involved with both it and the Pons and Fleischmann narrative evaluation. Awarded patents, hard replicated evidence by multiple parties and earth shattering data from past and present is shown for the first time which could easily be verified via equivalent samples held in public venues.
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Watched all of this vid, didn’t hear anything about wind. Not one word.

I have made mistakes such as I see (IMO) being made here. “Jumping on solutions”, as warned against by an engineering prof once, in my freshman year.

I hope that the serious questions, about such as possible conventional arson, and motives pertaining to both immediate and following responses, don’t get watered down by fantastical conspiracy content like this. One sign of insincerity here is the funeral dirge music track, doesn’t help its credibility.

Raskolnikov, if you’re not just trolling here, then I wish you well. I have been paranoid, intentionally for a period of several years, and I had lots of weird happenings in my life. When I quit that hobby/mindset, my life got a lot easier. Cheers, and peace.

Something's still bugging me about your post. You say, "I hope that the serious questions, about such as possible conventional arson, and motives pertaining to both immediate and following responses, don’t get watered down by fantastical conspiracy content like this." Is it really that fantastical? I appreciate a desire to look at it strictly adhering to a scientifically objective and unbiased analysis of the data. But what credibility really needs help here. That these weapons exist? Check. That they've been used this way before? Check.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/07/12/USAT/53a9c18e-7e28-4699-a825-4f0beee4ca13-AP_Paradise_Population_Count.JPG?width=540&height=&fit=bounds&auto=webp

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That the Hawaiians were never going to give up that land and the powers-that-be have already planned a new AI controlled Smart City there? Check.

So what exactly are you talking about when you say fantastical conspiracy content? I want to remain on good terms with everyone here and have a positive and intelligent conversation where we can discuss things openly but I'm a little offended by your comments. Paranoid? Wtf are you talking about? Are you not paying attention? I think the simple fact that we're talking at Project Avalon where Bill Ryan and KC proved long ago that everything we're discussing has already been well established by hundreds, if not thousands, of whistleblowers and people in the industry proves that it is by no means "fantastical conspiracy content."

No disrespect meant here, I wish you well as well, but do not imply that I'm being paranoid, because that is being disrespectful.

[Rizotto]

Apologies if this is a repeat, but MUST WATCH this video. How could a car surrounded by a gravel strip burn so intensely? Anybody here has an explanation?

“MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9L9WvlCli0&t=1724s

Unfortunately that video is no longer available? Why? The evidence was too telling???

To the mods: I'm a klutz with internet searches. Were you able to save that video in the Avalon library before it disappeared? If so, please let me know where/how you saved it. I would like to share it with more folks. Thank you for any help you can provide.

[Harmony]

Apologies if this is a repeat, but MUST WATCH this video. How could a car surrounded by a gravel strip burn so intensely? Anybody here has an explanation?

“MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9L9WvlCli0&t=1724s

Unfortunately that video is no longer available? Why? The evidence was too telling???

To the mods: I'm a klutz with internet searches. Were you able to save that video in the Avalon library before it disappeared? If so, please let me know where/how you saved it. I would like to share it with more folks. Thank you for any help you can provide.

I found this video that is still available Rizotto, hope it stays up so it can be viewed by all interested.
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[gord]

Youtube will probably "cull" that one too, but it's also on rumble:
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[Raskolnikov]

Good summary here on the land grab. "We are going towards a world where the people are owning nothing, but, you know, I don't know if the people are gonna be happy. I always say, if we don't own anything then who does?"

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[Raskolnikov]

Start this one at 25:00 and Max explores the missing kids and busses side of it. He seems to think that's where the kids are. Don't know if those are the same buses, they look like white military buses, but it's definitely possible recalling all the nefarious activities hidden from the public at US military bases, all the underground facilities and covert projects. That airfield and nearby gravel pit could easily have underground facilities especially with all the lava tubes and natural caves in the area. But if those kids were taken there, they're gone. You're never gonna see them again unless they turn up in a Superbowl car commercial like the Hampstead girl.

He goes more into Maui at 42:00.

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[norman]

Here's a flashback 6 years to the Santa Rosa California 'fire' devastation.

Recorded from an aircraft with VERY LOUD WIND NOISE ( turn your sound down before playing the video )

So unbelievable, and I do not believe it was natural wild fire.

AND, I think I can see Blue object that didn't burn !

2017 Santa Rosa Fires_ Stunning Aerial Video Showing Burned Homes in Fountaingrove
Stopthe Crime - 2023-09-10

https://rumble.com/v3gcrah-2017-santa-rosa-fires-stunning-aerial-video-showing-burned-homes-in-fountai.html

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[Paul D.]

Here's a flashback 6 years to the Santa Rosa California 'fire' devastation.

Recorded from an aircraft with VERY LOUD WIND NOISE ( turn your sound down before playing the video )

So unbelievable, and I do not believe it was natural wild fire.

AND, I think I can see Blue object that didn't burn !

2017 Santa Rosa Fires_ Stunning Aerial Video Showing Burned Homes in Fountaingrove
Stopthe Crime - 2023-09-10

https://rumble.com/v3gcrah-2017-santa-rosa-fires-stunning-aerial-video-showing-burned-homes-in-fountai.html

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Another (crime) scene with predominantly white/ pale ash house footprints & little , if any ,upright charred black remains .

[Raskolnikov]

So I was just watching this one as a curiosity until it said, "The Climate is Changing," in very dramatic Hollywood cinematic style.

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Red flag. So I researched the EIS Council (Electric Infrastructure Security Council) and they're coming right out and saying they're basing themselves on the definition of fascism: "It takes cooperation between governments, financial organizations, corporations, and ngo's (non-governmental organizations)." Meta grid? Black sky hazards? There are all kinds of corporate and former government big wigs from all over the world sitting on the board. Like the video above it all just feels like forcasting and predictive programming before the end goal or final solution - total lockdown. I don't mean to sound paranoid (nod to Johnnycomelately:p) but I really don't like where people like this are trying to take technology. What happened to we the people? I'll take freedom over security any day. Why does it feel like this world is being run by psychopaths? How do I get these f'ers out of my life? Sorry, just needed to get that out. Watch for yourself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvsbfrVjQUE

[Johnnycomelately]

So I was just watching this one as a curiosity until it said, "The Climate is Changing," in very dramatic Hollywood cinematic style.
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Best of luck, Sir. All I can suggest, to gain some peace, is something I did today for a totally different perceived threat.

Since a few days, the empty for-sale house right next door has had a developing homeless camp in the back yard. Today I first saw the guy, snapped a couple pics, and texted them to owner. Tomorrow when he gets here to cut the grass (from Calgary), he will call the Po-Po.

My feelings started out as hard aversion, fear, concerned that someone with nothing to lose could identify and might target me for retribution. I turned that from against to for, by wishing/praying him well in his life and mindset, whatever happens tomorrow.

This worked for me, today. Just a thought. Cheers.

[norman]

I've been thinking . . . .

Do these burnout incidents happen at night or only in the daylight ?

Or maybe happen in daylight, then allowed to burn naturally all night until re applying a beam weapon next day ?

I wonder what would be seen if the location and the sky above it was viewed through night-vision equipment while it's happening.

I've heard of night vision glasses that can take an SD card and record everything.

[Raskolnikov]

This guy tells his story while walking through an empty airport to leave Maui because of what he calls a tyrannical government on the island and a population willing to be pushed around by just a few people in uniform. He adds a doxing story at the end that backfired because of a wrong picture.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_6fOndbumk

Claims he was stalked for his videos of ground zero. Honestly wasn't sure whether to believe this guy or not but he also claims he's made no money off anything he's posted and just wants to get the truth out. It is some pretty good footage of the fire's aftermath...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMfVGh7ZEMY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEw3iFvZmk

[onawah]

Starting at 5:15 into the video, some food for thought...

Is US Ready For China's Next Naval Base?
China Truths
27.3K subscribers
Sep 12, 2023

"Air China Plane Suddenly Smokes From Cabin, Passengers Frightened
China Requires Public Wi-Fi To Record Real-Name Users
Is The Us Ready For China's Next Naval Base?"

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[Raskolnikov]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKavUKdxf2c

“I realize the urgency, that we need to get the right information out there. And it’s not this (dystopian?) that everyone thinks it is. It’s very very horrific, it’s very sad, it’s very tragic but we still need to keep our minds right with God, and continue to have faith, and proceed to love each other as human beings.”

“This is a time of Ho’oponopono, a time of healing for the people, a time where people need to take these feelings and become the captor of these feelings so that the feelings are not actually capturing you.”

“It was because the vanity of those to continue and promote those things that keep instilling the fear in the people, and people wake up, being scared is what’s killing us. We need to stop being scared, rise up. It’s good to rise up in silence, but just know that when there’s a time for you to do something, please act upon it. Don’t be someone who hesitates. In big wave surfing they like to say that if you hesitate you will get worked in the ocean, the ocean is very unforgiving, and we’re surrounded by it. And us, us as a people, we embrace the power of every natural thing around us that our creator has made, and there is no other way that I can see us not thriving if we just take advantage of the resources that God gave us. He gave us everything. He gave us everything we need, we just need a little faith in him and we can move mountains.”

[kfm27917]

Why Have They Put Miles And Miles Of Creepy Black Fencing Around Lahaina?

https://themostimportantnews.com/archives/why-have-they-put-miles-and-miles-of-creepy-black-fencing-around-lahaina

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[Raskolnikov]

Why Have They Put Miles And Miles Of Creepy Black Fencing Around Lahaina?

https://themostimportantnews.com/archives/why-have-they-put-miles-and-miles-of-creepy-black-fencing-around-lahaina

https://themostimportantnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Snip20230830_27.pnghttp://

Transparency, you know, like this:

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[Satori]

Why Have They Put Miles And Miles Of Creepy Black Fencing Around Lahaina?

https://themostimportantnews.com/archives/why-have-they-put-miles-and-miles-of-creepy-black-fencing-around-lahaina

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Transparency, you know, like this:

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He is saying the quiet part out loud. He was supposed to say the opposite of what he did say. He can’t follow the script and he is too impaired and corrupt to care.

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1702322359519285413?s=20

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[Raskolnikov]

Thanks mountain_jim, glad to see O'Keefe on the scene. So did Eric West just get arrested for violating some emergency proclamation or for his front plate?

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[The Moss Trooper]

Thanks mountain_jim, glad to see O'Keefe on the scene. So did Eric West just get arrested for violating some emergency proclamation or for his front plate?

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And this above, Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls, Friends & Enemies, is how great evil triumphs.

I took it as a given that "I was only following orders" is no defence what-so-ever. It saddens me in these times, especially in these times, when most of humanities eyes are open to the blatant corruption & manipulation bestowed upon us from those who inhabit the lofty heights, that people such as these, law enforcement officers, are so willing to go along with a blatant agenda. Do they think that they and their families will be immune from the same treatment when the time comes?

It is truly sickening.

Sickening.

[Raskolnikov]

Thanks mountain_jim, glad to see O'Keefe on the scene. So did Eric West just get arrested for violating some emergency proclamation or for his front plate?

And this above, Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls, Friends & Enemies, is how great evil triumphs.

I took it as a given that "I was only following orders" is no defence what-so-ever. It saddens me in these times, especially in these times, when most of humanities eyes are open to the blatant corruption & manipulation bestowed upon us from those who inhabit the lofty heights, that people such as these, law enforcement officers, are so willing to go along with a blatant agenda. Do they think that they and their families will be immune from the same treatment when the time comes?

It is truly sickening.

Sickening.

I know Moss, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry these days, it alternates so quickly it feels like a rollercoaster. Though I’m not sure I agree with you when you say, “most of humanities eyes are open to the blatant corruption & manipulation.” Most in the military and armed services such as the police force have been truly mesmerized by the talisman of authority and all that it entails. Perhaps that’s because those with a desire for power, order, and the wielding of force to achieve those ends are drawn to such services, a religion in which they no longer have to think or question their own reality - it’s this way or the highway and you’ve got a gun and the law behind you to prove it, even if that law’s unjust or like mandates, not law at all. Top that with a requirement of round after round of experimental shots and vaccines and I truly believe some of these officers (weren’t they originally called peace officers, delegated to keep the peace, to serve and protect the public?) are in a bad way and may be the last ones to awaken. Excellent question though, “Do they think that they and their families will be immune from the same treatment when the time comes?” Have we learned nothing since the Nuremburg trials? Sadly, for many, this may still be the case. A good barometer will be to see how many put on the mask again, drum roll please...

[Raskolnikov]

Analysis of normal house and wildfires vs. the new normal climate change house and wildfires.

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[Raskolnikov]

And then there's always Kerry...

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[Raskolnikov]

"We are in an era of global, you know, climate change. And what we do in Hawaii, we will be able to lead by example as far as mitigating efforts and our pain. When people see the pain that we have suffered they're going to take us seriously. It's an unusual thing for a person like me to get to speak to a very broad international audience, but I will make this case: Smart, sss, ummmm... Smart, ummm..."

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[Szymon]

Here is the O’KEEFE UNDERCOVER IN LAHAINA PART 1

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1702472782385140042

[Denise/Dizi]

That video above, posted by Raskolnikov, is the local feeling I experienced while living in Lahaina... THANK YOU for posting it... It brings the picture back into perspective for me...


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1576956&viewfull=1#post1576956

I realize that there are many in this community who want to find the negative things that are happening with the fires and such... Those who believe these things are orchestrated, and many may be... But I believe in their rush to get "Evidence", they're being rather heartless and inconsiderate to those who are actually living there, and going through tremendous loss as well..

The "Evidence" will still be there after they remove the bodies... Let them do that in a private manner.... Let the residents be the first to go back to their homes and examine their losses, and let them grieve their losses, and figure out what they are going to do next.... in peace...

To those who are upset that there not being allowed to film in Lahaina... Please remember many people lost their lives in the fires... And there is the potential that there are many burned children and people in those homes and vehicles, that have yet to be even discovered, much less recovered as well... Many in those vehicles that everyone is so adamant about filming... Perhaps this is partially why they do not want people wandering through town, just taking pictures of everything they see... They are hiding something... A graveyard... But for good reason... Life is sacred, and they're being respectful to the dead...

I don't think I have heard one person, in any of the videos I did click on, suggest that maybe those barriers are there to protect the final resting place of those that lost their lives... And shelter them from being filmed until they can be recovered... I am sure the last thing they want, is the burned bodies of loved ones appearing on the local news... We know many died, we don't need to film that horror... They certainly wouldn't want their loved ones being the face of that headline...

So for those of you WANTING to see more videos inside of Lahaina, please keep this in mind, as it is very disrespectful.

I have seen videos of the fire fighters being bashed for not having done anything, when the reality is they too, were stuck in the fires... Their equipment barley more advanced in terms of being any more effective, than the common garden hose... And they themselves broke down when speaking of what they saw, as they saw people left in their cars dead, and burning... Some on foot...

As for the police... When I lived there, they were kind, friendly, and I even went to their annual Christmas party... It's a small island, and once you're accepted, you're family... Of course my friends then are probably retired from the force now, but they were good men and women... They cared about their community and those who lived within it... They certainly were not the "People just following orders" that they are being painted as today... They easily COULD think for themselves, and they knew right from wrong... I feel for them as well, as they would also see the need to protect the area from others...

That island is one large breathing and living family. It is the tourists that they saw as outsiders, and it is those same tourists, or non natives that are now producing the videos claiming they're merely "Following orders"... The locals have accepted it was a tragic loss, and are doing whatever they can to just live... and remain respectful...

They would be the first to see the need to cover the area from the prying eyes of thrill seekers who want to just make any story about the tragedy that their minds could create. They're not being complicit in some conspiracy theory, they're being respectful to their friends, family, and community.

Right now, those who went through this do not need to be spending their time defending their neighbors actions, as far as what they were able to, or unable to do, they need help... They were barely able to save themselves... They also need time to process what they just experienced, and rebuild in some way...

If there is evidence to be found of an attack, it will remain after they remove the human lives that were lost.. Let them do that privately... Truth be told they couldn't possibly know how many people were actually in Lahaina when the fire broke out... So they have a lot of searching to do, in a large area... May they have the strength to get through that without being permenantly scarred for having to deal with what they're now having to do...

[Raskolnikov]

"Yesterday we got a man who went into Lahaina and found his son and his dog dead." Can't even imagine.

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[Raskolnikov]

That video above, posted by Raskolnikov, is the local feeling I experienced while living in Lahaina... THANK YOU for posting it... It brings the picture back into perspective for me...


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1576956&viewfull=1#post1576956

I realize that there are many in this community who want to find the negative things that are happening with the fires and such... Those who believe these things are orchestrated, and many may be... But I believe in their rush to get "Evidence", they're being rather heartless and inconsiderate to those who are actually living there, and going through tremendous loss as well..

The "Evidence" will still be there after they remove the bodies... Let them do that in a private manner.... Let the residents be the first to go back to their homes and examine their losses, and let them grieve their losses, and figure out what they are going to do next.... in peace...

To those who are upset that there not being allowed to film in Lahaina... Please remember many people lost their lives in the fires... And there is the potential that there are many burned children and people in those homes and vehicles, that have yet to be even discovered, much less recovered as well... Many in those vehicles that everyone is so adamant about filming... Perhaps this is partially why they do not want people wandering through town, just taking pictures of everything they see... They are hiding something... A graveyard... But for good reason... Life is sacred, and they're being respectful to the dead...

I don't think I have heard one person, in any of the videos I did click on, suggest that maybe those barriers are there to protect the final resting place of those that lost their lives... And shelter them from being filmed until they can be recovered... I am sure the last thing they want, is the burned bodies of loved ones appearing on he local news... We know many died, we don't need to film that horror... They certainly wouldn't want their loved ones being the face of that headline...

So for those of you WANTING to see more videos inside of Lahaina, please keep this in mind, as it is very disrespectful.

I have seen videos of the fire fighters being bashed for not having done anything, when the reality is they too, were stuck in the fires... Their equipment barley more advanced in terms of being any more effective, than the common garden hose... And they themselves broke down when speaking of what they saw, as they saw people left in their cars dead, and burning... Some on foot...

As for the police... When I lived there, they were kind, friendly, and I even went to their annual Christmas party... It's a small island, and once you're accepted, you're family... Of course my friends then are probably retired from the force now, but they were good men and women... They cared about their community and those who lived within it... They certainly were not the "People just following orders" that they are being painted as today... They easily COULD think for themselves, and they knew right from wrong... I feel for them as well, as they would also see the need to protect the area from others...

That island is one large breathing and living family. It is the tourists that they saw as outsiders, and it is those same tourists, or non natives that are now producing the videos claiming they're merely "Following orders"... The locals have accepted it was a tragic loss, and are doing whatever they can to just live... and remain respectful...

They would be the first to see the need to cover the area from the prying eyes of thrill seekers who want to just make any story about the tragedy that their minds could create. They're not being complicit in some conspiracy theory, they're being respectful to their friends, family, and community.

Right now, those who went through this do not need to be spending their time defending their neighbors actions, as far as what they were able to, or unable to do, they need help... They were barely able to save themselves... They also need time to process what they just experienced, and rebuild in some way...

If there is evidence to be found of an attack, it will remain after they remove the human lives that were lost.. Let them do that privately... Truth be told they couldn't possibly know how many people were actually in Lahaina when the fire broke out... So they have a lot of searching to do, in a large area... May they have the strength to get through that without being permenantly scarred for having to deal with what they're now having to do...

Great points Denise/Dizi, respect the dead and the grieving. I wouldn't say we "want to find the negative things that are happening with the fires" so much as can't help but be suspicious with all the strange anomalies surrounding the Lahaina fire. My brother has friends that still live there and he has them trying to find his old girlfriend and her family. He was going to marry this girl at one point and they've always been close so he's pretty devastated that she's still missing.

But aren't the locals and those directly affected being kept out of that area as well? I hope you don't find me callous if I continue to search and question the official story but there's just too many unanswered questions. It feels like 9/11 and the California fires (where we first witnessed this type of devastation which was clearly a weaponized attack on the people) all over again.

I remember one video of firemen saying it was so hot their windshield was bubbling and they had to shelter in place because their hoses melted and there was no water. Can you imagine? But the bubbling windshield is an impossibility in a wildfire, they simply do not and have never been melted in a wildfire until the 2017 fires of California. Please watch this post https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1577118&viewfull=1#post1577118

I'm sure the police force was great when you were there, small town cops are usually pretty laid back. Can't say I'm a fan of the Vegas shooting police chief showing up though. Isn't there a possibility they brought in a different set of cops as well to enforce such horrible orders as turning the people back into the fire and not letting them escape? I heard reports saying Pelletier made things so unbearable that the seasoned cops (locals with heart) ended up quiting. So who replaced them?

Too many questions. Like why did the FBI and ATF turn up in Lahaina? Don't they investigate crimes? Doesn't that make it a crime scene? Completely agree with your desire to leave the locals in peace, and wish the authorities would let them back in to retrieve whatever they can to have some closure. Too many unanswered questions, more and more the evidence points to foul play, and I for one think we need to be more like the local in O'Keefe's video who, when the cops(?) in unmarked cars told him he had to leave and that he was not allowed to stop on the side of the road, stands his ground and says, "You're dismissed."

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[onawah]

Check out the perspective that these guys (who spent years travelling around and working in China, and know a lot about how the Chinese Communist Party operates), have on what happened in Maui, as to who was actually responsible and who has been putting out a lot of propagenda about it.
Starting at about 49 minutes into the video:
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[gini]

Check out the perspective that these guys (who spent years travelling around and working in China, and know a lot about how the Chinese Communist Party operates), have on what happened in Maui, as to who was actually responsible and who has been putting out a lot of propagenda about it.
Starting at about 49 minutes into the video:
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Why did it take more then a month after this disaster to hear about this 'chinese propaganda' with AI generated false pictures? Are we -even here on PA- so easily mislead and sucked into false narratives?

I dont remember reading any article or even any hint about this possibility,

Now i feel stupid watching all these vids without even wondering if the pictures were real :facepalm:

[jaybee]

Check out the perspective that these guys (who spent years travelling around and working in China, and know a lot about how the Chinese Communist Party operates), have on what happened in Maui, as to who was actually responsible and who has been putting out a lot of propagenda about it.
Starting at about 49 minutes into the video:

{video snipped see above #563}


thanks

Out of curiosity I looked at the section starting at around 49 mins and I have to say my impression is that this is a muddying the waters exercise - taking pops at China, Russia and poo pooing the very idea that laser technology could have been used to help spread the fires in Maui and that the US 'government' (aka the Globalist Cabal?) was involved in any way - some pictures coming from Maui could have been tampered with using AI but this doesn't change the basic story of what happened on Lahaina and the reports coming out -

They sprinkled names into their 'report' to suggest everyone has been fooled... like InfoWars, Tulsi Gabbard and Tucker Carlson for example....

Re one of the points they brought up about comparing the money sent to Hawaii and the money sent to Ukraine - and saying this is being pushed by China and Russia propaganda (and 'gullible' people on the left and right - ) ......... in reality it doesn't need China or Russia or anyone in America with an axe to grind to make this point and see the huge difference in the allocation of money -

To be honest I didn't 'buy' those guys doing the show... or the direction they were trying to push their viewers in...

Not a word about other suspicious fires anywhere in the world and how the Maui fires fit into a potential land grab situation - and in the case of Maui possibly preparing the ground for a Smart City ...

[Inversion]

The state of Hawaii is going to be out billions of dollars from tourism. Who would want to go there when you can be incinerated, arrested or harassed on a whim.

gitnux (https://blog.gitnux.com/hawaii-tourism-statistics/#:~:text=Conclusion,jobs%20across%20Hawaii%20that%20year.)

Hawaii’s tourism industry is a major contributor to the state’s economy, with over 10.4 million visitors in 2019 alone. These tourists spent an estimated $17.75 billion and supported 216,000 jobs across Hawaii that year.

[Raskolnikov]

Check out the perspective that these guys (who spent years travelling around and working in China, and know a lot about how the Chinese Communist Party operates), have on what happened in Maui, as to who was actually responsible and who has been putting out a lot of propagenda about it.
Starting at about 49 minutes into the video:

{video snipped see above #563}

my impression is that this is a muddying the waters exercise... To be honest I didn't 'buy' those guys doing the show... or the direction they were trying to push their viewers in...

Got exactly the same impression jaybee. Anytime I hear Russian or Chinese propaganda the red flags go flying. It seems like they're trying to get the undecided, those who still believe the Russian propaganda bs surrounding Trump, which was clearly disproven, to dismiss the whole thing as just another elaborate conspiracy theory propagated by those pesky little Russians again (insert Chinese if you prefer).

My takeaway is that countries no longer exist where these attacks (Covid included) are concerned, their might and resources are simply being employed and exploited to achieve the ends of the unelected multinational uberrich knuckleheads who want a new world order and are willing to kill everyone to get it.

[onawah]

I haven't been following the Maui story closely enough to feel sure I know who caused the fires, and admittedly those two guys are naive when it comes to subjects other than China, but I wouldn't put it past the CCP to muddy the waters with propaganda attacking the US
So I thought their POV on that subject might be worth consideration. in this instance at least.
Though they still have a lot of work to do before they have any real understanding of global politics, they have had some first hand experience with the CCP's modus operandi.
But I don't think they have any secret agendas...


Check out the perspective that these guys (who spent years travelling around and working in China, and know a lot about how the Chinese Communist Party operates), have on what happened in Maui, as to who was actually responsible and who has been putting out a lot of propagenda about it.
Starting at about 49 minutes into the video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iyyICAb38r4

[Raskolnikov]

30 year military fire chief talks with Bad-ass Uncle Sam about the Maui fire and big picture. Interview starts at 2:30.

"How many times have you seen a tree fall on an electrical wire and cause that type of damage? It doesn't happen right? It doesn't happen."

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[Raskolnikov]

Maui police lie and death toll returns to under 100.

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[Raskolnikov]

This is powerful, some very strong speakers, and needs to be on this thread.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqCXQe0hmUg

The aftermath of the devastating August 2023 wildfires on Maui Island, the community gathered in an electrifying county council hearing, a confluence of passion, anger, and Aloha spirit. Witness the unparalleled highlights in a 50-minute special where the heartbeats of many resonate in a symphony of appreciation, frustration, and healing.

Dive deep into the raw testimonies of the people directly affected, those who faced the wildfire’s wrath, and the heroes who emerged from the tragic event. A rollercoaster of emotions unfolds as we bring you closer to the ground zero of the catastrophe, presenting a kaleidoscope of perspectives that paint a vivid picture of resilience, community, and the inherent spirit of Aloha.

For those who wish to delve deeper and explore the complete footage of the testimony, visit the official website here: akaku.com.

Join us in this emotional journey as we stand in solidarity with the Maui community.

[silver birch]

This remote viewing is part of "Calogero Grifasi Investigations", that is a fixed protocol to start with, and then a free part where the operator can choose questions.

The concept is based on letting several couples (of operator/viewer) do the same protocol, and then comparing the results to diminish the contamination.

The present couple (Claudia and Saverio) is one of the project's clearest and most experienced, so usually well worth listening to.

Saverio is talking about at least three different types of energy weapons directed by the "Deep state" which he defines as a triad consisting of London, the Vatican and USofA, with connections to a "fringe power" partly acting in a diffrent dimension but also here, through hybrids and "others" mainly mantids, dragons and greys.

The weapons used are mainly acting on metals and technology, not so much wood. It is a choice of the attackers as they can adjust the frequency for any purpose.
He is also connecting the Maui fires to other fires, especially on the aug 14, being of occult significance.
The motive for the Maui fires, in his impression, is as a punishment for the local govenment, caring too much for the local people, as described in earlier posts.

Later in the session he is talking about the Deep State's present standing and especially regarding The Vatican.

As this session is recorded with good sound and clear voices, the subtitles translation is working well, for all you non-italians like me ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsnKh2wtZkM

[Raskolnikov]

Always resonate with Gilliland's messages, good Sunday listening. He speaks a bit on the fires but good big picture stuff here. As he says, "The spell of division needs to be broken."

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[onawah]

Clif High Interview With Man In Man in America - The Cabal’s Days are Numbered

Clif High begins this episode by saying that the Deep State is the enemy, not nation states, and that if a CCP guy in China pushed the button that created the tragedy in Maui, it doesn't mean that China or the Chinese people attacked Maui, it means that an arm of the Deep State within the CCP attacked Maui on the orders of the Deep State.

Clif High Interview With Man In Man in America - The Cabal’s Days are Numbered
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29.6K subscribers
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1,787 watching now Premiere in progress. Started 33 minutes ago

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(Some repetition in this episode of the info that was in the last one)

[Raskolnikov]

LAWSUIT HAS BEEN FILED AGAINST MAUI GOVERNOR JOSH GREEN

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[Raskolnikov]

Hawaii State Attorney General to Withhold Initial Findings in Maui Fire to Safeguard Investigation’s Integrity

https://breakingdigest.com/hawaii-state-attorney-general-to-withhold-initial-findings-in-maui-fire-to-safeguard-investigations-integrity-video/

Hawaii State Attorney General Anne E. Lopez has opted not to release initial findings to the public regarding the extensive Maui fires that occurred on August 8th.

This decision is supposedly aimed at safeguarding the ongoing investigation’s integrity, as indicated in a statement from the Department of the Attorney General. However, concerns have arisen regarding the transparency of the inquiry, with local residents questioning whether this “independent investigation” will genuinely remain impartial.

Attorney General Anne E. Lopez has also announced the involvement of the Fire Safety Research Institute (FSRI), a nonprofit organization, as an independent third party to conduct the investigation. FSRI, contracted with Underwriters Laboratories Inc., has been granted subpoena power under HRS 28-2.5, as reported by The Honolulu Star-Advertiser.

The team of investigators comprises former firefighters, fire scientists, and incident commanders. Their mission is to assess the preparedness and response of state and county agencies to the devastating fire.

“I am committed to an independent, unbiased, and transparent investigation into government actions during the fires. This type of investigation is a hallmark of a healthy democratic society and will lead to improved responsiveness and resilience in the future, ” Lopez told the Honolulu Star-Advertiser.

“All state and county agencies answer to the people of Hawaii, and I fully expect that they all will voluntarily give interviews and provide documents relevant to the investigation.”

As reported by the news outlet, “FSRI’s team of former firefighters, including inspectors, fire scientists and incident commanders, started work on Maui on Aug. 24 and are updating Lopez and her team every two weeks, with the first update coming last week.”

Despite the state Attorney General’s commitment to transparency, concerns about impartiality persist, as Attorney General Lopez’s office will ultimately decide which information to disclose to the public, at least in the initial stages.

According to Hawaii News Now, the state attorney general released a statement:

The Attorney General is committed to a full, comprehensive, and transparent investigation, with the reports of that investigation shared with the public. While we will not speculate as to future hypothetical circumstances, we note that in any investigation, publicly revealing some information prematurely could compromise other aspects of the investigation that remain ongoing. In any investigation, information may be withheld temporarily to protect the integrity of the investigatory process.

[Blastolabs]

I am highlighting two specific sections from this video of a tourist escaping the fire, you can click on the blue times below to see specific times.

At 10:19 (https://youtu.be/E-KYfmH6_kw?si=k-4f9J9W72Dp6EuQ&t=620) he says "I don't see flames or anything yet"

Then at 37:50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-KYfmH6_kw&t=2270s) we see multiple buildings that are fuming They are not burning, there is no fire visible, but these building are releasing MASSIVE amounts of smoke.



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Any familiar with Judy Wood will recognize that this looks identical to the 3 buildings in NYC on 9/11

It is import that we use language that reflects our observations.
The weapon used is not a laser. Tactical Lasers have a very short range in the atmosphere. They also burn everything including plastic.

The term "directed energy weapon" is the best we have I guess, but DEW is still inadequate, this weapon exploits physics that 99.9% of mainstream college educated western scientists currently do not even know exists.

I have no idea how the weapon transmits energy, but the end result is clearly "cold fusion" also known as LENR (lenr-canr.org/)

If this is the same weapon used on 9/11 it is essentially able to create tiny "ball lighting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning)" inside anything that conducts electricity (METAL) from a distance.



Cold fusion, otherwise known as Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) is not a surface reaction: it occurs in the cracks and fissures of metal substances filled with densely packed clusters of atomic and sub-atomic particles such as hydrogen atoms or electrons. Put more simply, cold fusion is a type of micro-ball lightning (MBL) created by intense electromagnetic, gravitational effects.

To learn more see Ken Shoulders (http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/10/ken_shoulders_evos_exotic_vacu.html), John Hutchinson,Bob Greenyer (https://remoteview.substack.com/), Dr. Takaaki Matsumoto (https://www.amazon.com/Steps-Discovery-Electro-Nuclear-Collapse-Collected/dp/B0B6XS3M7D)

Of course fires broke out and fire destroyed lots of things, but there seems to be something else going on. Someone from the area needs to send a sample of metal to a lab where they can run spectroscopy on the sample. This is what proved that 9/11 was a "cold fusion/ LENR" based weapon, there were extremely rare isotopes found in the dust that you should only find in a nuclear reactor according to "college educated scientists"

[Pam]

The state of Hawaii is going to be out billions of dollars from tourism. Who would want to go there when you can be incinerated, arrested or harassed on a whim.

gitnux (https://blog.gitnux.com/hawaii-tourism-statistics/#:~:text=Conclusion,jobs%20across%20Hawaii%20that%20year.)

Hawaii’s tourism industry is a major contributor to the state’s economy, with over 10.4 million visitors in 2019 alone. These tourists spent an estimated $17.75 billion and supported 216,000 jobs across Hawaii that year.

Maybe that's the icing on the cake. Your point is well taken.

[Patient]

The state of Hawaii is going to be out billions of dollars from tourism. Who would want to go there when you can be incinerated, arrested or harassed on a whim.

gitnux (https://blog.gitnux.com/hawaii-tourism-statistics/#:~:text=Conclusion,jobs%20across%20Hawaii%20that%20year.)

Hawaii’s tourism industry is a major contributor to the state’s economy, with over 10.4 million visitors in 2019 alone. These tourists spent an estimated $17.75 billion and supported 216,000 jobs across Hawaii that year.

Maybe that's the icing on the cake. Your point is well taken.

This video is unique in that it is seemingly showing a building burning from the inside-out which contradicts how buildings would burn as a result of a wild fire.

[Raskolnikov]

The state of Hawaii is going to be out billions of dollars from tourism. Who would want to go there when you can be incinerated, arrested or harassed on a whim.

gitnux (https://blog.gitnux.com/hawaii-tourism-statistics/#:~:text=Conclusion,jobs%20across%20Hawaii%20that%20year.)

Hawaii’s tourism industry is a major contributor to the state’s economy, with over 10.4 million visitors in 2019 alone. These tourists spent an estimated $17.75 billion and supported 216,000 jobs across Hawaii that year.

Maybe that's the icing on the cake. Your point is well taken.

This video is unique in that it is seemingly showing a building burning from the inside-out which contradicts how buildings would burn as a result of a wild fire.

Thank you for saying it Patient, been thinking the same thing. The image at 00:57 is truly eerie, and the garages at 1:16. You know, all I see are structures and cars burning from the inside out besides whatever the hell's going on at 5:26 - is that a fence or a wall? Disregard the stupid "Crisis Actor" thing in the beginning, but there's some good day of footage here that clearly shows the fire burning in very unusual ways and at temps way too hot.



And be sure to check norman's deeper dive into the F.E.M.A, D.E.W.s, Camps and Kill Cities side of things over here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121937-F.E.M.A.-D.E.W.s-Camps-and-Kill-Cities-Etc&p=1577434&viewfull=1#post1577434

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[Rizotto]

Lahaina Town is a CRIME SCENE! Demand an ESTOPPEL NOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtXjYI-Rz0g

[Satori]

It has become very apparent since this tragedy unfolded that Lahaina, Maui, has not been wiped off the map. To be sure, many parts of the town suffered catastrophic damage, but it was not wiped off the map. With the passage of time it would serve us well to reconsider and reject that concept.

However, that Lahaina still stands provides no explanation for the cause(s) of the fires and the myriad failures of those entrusted with disaster preparedness, response and relief. Nor, and most significantly, does it answer the questions surrounding the whereabouts and fate of the missing and unaccounted for citizens of Lahaina.

[Raskolnikov]

I know some may think this off topic but I feel it's at the top of the list for explaining what's happening right now with all the fires and catastrophic weather events hitting the world's great cities and countries right now. Klaus Schwab's lap dog, Yuval Harari, comes across in these passages like an AI incarnation, especially when he says, "What do we need humans for?" as if he's speaking for his AI God, and then in answer to his own question states, "...keep them happy with drugs and computer games," as if he's not human himself. Read for yourself:

“Some people think, again, that creativity is some, I don’t know, some mystical supernatural thing that AI will never have. But actually, in many cases, creativity means being able to spot a pattern and then break it in a creative way, in a new way do something new. And this is something that AI is becoming very good at…

One of the biggest dangers with this new technology is that, you know, a lot of jobs will disappear. So the biggest question in the job market would be whether you are able to retrain yourself to fill the new job and whether the government is able to create this vast educational system to retrain the population. People will need to retrain themselves, or if they can’t do it, then if you can’t do it the danger is, you fall down to a new class not unemployed, but unemployable, the useless class, people who don’t have any skills that the new economy needs.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94o-9zR2bew

“Some governments and corporations for the first time in history have the power to basically hack human beings. There is a lot of talk about hacking computers, hacking smart phones, hacking bank accounts, but the big story of our era is the ability to hack human beings, and by this I mean that if you have enough data and you have enough computing power, you can understand people better than they understand themselves and then you can manipulate them in ways that were previously impossible. And, in such a situation, the old democratic system stop functioning. We need to reinvent democracy for this new era in which humans are now hackable animals. You know, the whole idea that humans have this soul or spirit or they have free will, and nobody knows what’s happening inside me, so whatever I choose, whether in the election or in the supermarket, this is my free will - that’s over.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV0CtZga7qM

If you go back to the middle of the 20th century — and it doesn’t matter if you’re in the United States with Roosevelt, or if you’re in Germany with Hitler, or even in the USSR with Stalin — and you think about building the future, then your building materials are those millions of people who are working hard in the factories, in the farms, the soldiers. You need them. You don’t have any kind of future without them.

“Now, fast forward to the early 21st century when we just don’t need the vast majority of the population,” the WEF adviser concluded, “because the future is about developing more and more sophisticated technology, like artificial intelligence [and] bioengineering, Most people don’t contribute anything to that, except perhaps for their data, and whatever people are still doing which is useful, these technologies increasingly will make redundant and will make it possible to replace the people.”

Harari: “The big political and economic question of the 21st Century will be, ‘What do we need humans for?’ Or, at least, ‘What do we need so many humans for?’”
Interviewer: “Do you have an answer…?”
Harari: “Um, at present, the best guess we have is keep them happy with drugs and computer games.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgwu0qL51Pg

[Rizotto]

Police officers said "I have orders", as an explanation for blocking escape routes.

INTENTIONAL DEATH TRAP “If I had listened to the Police..I’d Be Dead” Lahaina Fire Survivor Story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuWtCL6S7cs

[thepainterdoug]

Hararis comments remind me of the line by Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park when he says, "just because you could, doesn't mean you should" regarding the recreating of the dinosaurs.
Nothing is forcing Klaus Schwab, Harari and the WEF to move in the direction they are. They are choosing this and then by way of self anointment ,plan to implement this on the rest of us .
My question to them would be , do you have children ? and do they have human emotions, do they dream and desire love, have feelings for animals and imaginary worlds of creativity like dolls , play pretend and so on? Will they fall in love and marry, then raise families? Do you not want this for them. The chance and right to pursue happiness?
Or is all that over?

to return directly to this thread, I still dont understand what happened to these children? what of the school busses, the bus drivers, the records of their actions and the seemingly missing outrage and concern over this most horrific reality.
It's like, nothing to see here, move on people.

[Raskolnikov]

My question to them would be, do you have children? and do they have human emotions, do they dream and desire love, have feelings for animals and imaginary worlds of creativity like dolls, play pretend and so on? Will they fall in love and marry, then raise families? Do you not want this for them. The chance and right to pursue happiness?
Or is all that over?

Unfortunately, I think those are questions for humans. Remember supposedly both John Carpenter and Roddy Piper said They Live was not a work of fiction but a documentary. The Hermetic text in the Emerald Tablets even speaks of this, not of They Live, but of dark spirits from the shadows inhabiting bodies here, "Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted, but appearing to man as men among men. Crept they into the councils, taking form that were like unto men. Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms, taking their form and ruling o'er man." It speaks of blood offerings as being necessary to dwell among men. That was 36,000 years ago, or was that yesterday? Have to admit, it would sure explain the cabinets and councils we see today.

What I don't understand is how a list of the children still missing hasn't come forth yet. Were all the records burnt as well? Why can't we get a list along with accompanying pictures? I just get a gut-feeling the people who could do this...

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...could easily pull off a Lahaina or a 9/11.

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On a brighter note, this is good to see - BJ PENN LEADING A 50,000+ PEOPLE MARCH TO LAHAINA

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[Raskolnikov]

Ok, I didn't want to take this one seriously, but Deborah Tavares just posted it so now I'm not sure. Fema Camps and gas chambers...

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[onawah]

If Tavares posted it, that is cause to NOT take it seriously.

Ok, I didn't want to take this one seriously, but Deborah Tavares just posted it so now I'm not sure. Fema Camps and gas chambers...

[Raskolnikov]

If Tavares posted it, that is cause to NOT take it seriously.

Ok, I didn't want to take this one seriously, but Deborah Tavares just posted it so now I'm not sure. Fema Camps and gas chambers...



Can you give me a bit more? Know she's a bit over the top, but so is Alex Jones and he's been right more than not.

[onawah]

Try this 22 page thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105568-The-Hoaxes-of-Deborah-Tavares
Also see this post, which I have copied and pasted as follows: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103940-The-strangeness-of-the-California-Fires&p=1321287&viewfull=1#post1321287

True, Tavares isn't a reliable source, but please don't stop there. See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105568-The-Hoaxes-of-Deborah-Tavares&p=1320329&viewfull=1#post1320329 as follows:


I happened to see the post above on the Forum's list of new posts, checked it out, and was surprised to see my name come up.
I certainly do see more clearly now why Tavares's activities are of such concern.
But I never would have had so much trouble understanding why when I first began reading the thread if one crucial factor hadn't been lost in the shuffle (for me, at least).
Which is why, since it appears that Tavares might well be part of a planned (perhaps by the CIA, as it certainly seems to display their stamp of nefariousness) agenda to have an easily debunked source like Tavares ready to exploit in the event that enough people begin to seriously question various Agenda 21/2030 activities... WHY was that aspect barely mentioned on the thread?
We know that Agenda 21/2030 activities, which info sources other than Tavares ( credible ones, such as Rosa Koire) are documenting a lot of the same material as well, although without the lies and forgeries.
Initially I thought Tavares was just doing a lousy job of exposing things that needed to be exposed, but of course, as time went on and the lies and forgeries became more numerous and blatant, it seemed clear that she must be part of some bigger and even darker agenda.
(Although the truth is horrible enough without such embellishments.)
Why that wasn't emphasized on the thread but actually downplayed or ignored made me wonder if there was something even more complicated and secretive under way and if this forum is being used as a tool.
And that is the reason why I simply abandoned this thread, having voiced those concerns.
And if there have still been no successful attempts to expose Tavares publicly, then I have to wonder if she is going to be protected until there are actually riots.
Which is just what she seems to be trying to instigate.
Rioting would give the "authorities" a perfect reason to discredit ALL reports about the Agendas and make people even more fearful, which is always to their supposed advantage, of course.
And if at that time, might she just be given a slap on the wrist or ...?? perhaps a staged "suicide" or something similar that smacks of CIA tactics.
That would be proof sufficient for me that it was planned from the beginning, and she was just hired on to be on the stage of a very staged event.
The REAL challenge, in my view, is not to prove that Tavares is a hoax, but to uncover WHY she is distorting the truth about the issues which really SHOULD be in the public's awareness, and WHO is behind that.
It seems obvious to me that it's much too fishy an operation to have been created solely by her and her cohort.

Thanks onawah!

Your perspective and theories match my own. There is value in contributing to the destabilization of society, precisely for the reasons you mention. It’s a form of psyop and false flag, or at least manufactured crisis. I too have come to believe that Tavares is sponsored. Her channel has been monetized throughout the period of time when far less radical channels were demonetized, censored and sometimes taken down. Although she’s spread a rumor that she’s now demonetized, I don’t believe it. The amount of advertising placed around her presentations has only grown. YouTube’s “hate speech” policies do not apply to Tavares. At first because it ticked me off, and later as an experiment, I started reporting comments that call for violence and murder, or are blatant epithets both racial and cultural. Obscene stuff. All of it was left standing. There’s more but bottom line YouTube likes her. Her channel has become (at times) a hate platform, some presentations worse than others. Her listeners adore her. “Awake” in Tavares world means several things. (A) agree that there’s no hope (B)memorize Deborah’s control mantras and reiterate them on cue (C) discourage independent research and vetting “Deborah tells us what we need to know.” (D) questioning her stories or merely requesting substantiation labels one as “a paid government troll” or “MSM shill”. If “evil’s first weapon is fear”, then evil loves Deborah Tavares. She’s even stopped manufacturing “documents” as her listener base and grapevine is now substantial enough that no documentation is necessary. “Rothschild is facilitating youth seminars worldwide to condition young people into cannibalism” and it’s all decreed by “executive orders”. having a solar panel electricity generating system is now “the equivalent of letting suicide bombers sleep in your garage.” It goes on and on and in. Sure enough, listeners accept it as verbatim verified truth. Ask for examples or substantiation of any such events or an executive order number? “TROLL!” attacked by Tavares worker drones. The effect of her work is fear and hate based dogma, really no different than the kkk or any devout order of hate.

One thing which continues to stand out for me is that she often plays the victim card, to include her kids and grandkids. She’s certainly aware that if the wrong toes are stepped on too many times, activists may be disappeared, and the way to really shut someone up is to target a child or grandchild. And yet, Deborah boldly goes about her work, only increasing in radical instigating tone, with apparently no concern for the well being of her family. I think she’s nuts, but I do not think she would put a child or grandchild at risk.

It’s occurred to me that there’s no better way to hide a real conspiracy than to bury it amidst a plethora of fake conspiracies. It becomes a room full of mirrors, no one knows what’s real and what’s not. If some of that is going on, Deborah’s value becomes even more apparent. She’s manufacturing allegations cross-referenced with other allegations so quickly and prolifically right now that it’s impossible to keep up. Sometimes I’ll write out her words because seeing it in writing makes the craziness much more apparent. I can’t keep up anymore, she’s rattling stuff off so fast. 50-100 new conspiracies per talk. “The blind are now our enemies” “firefighters are costumed imposters who organize busloads of homeless looters” (some fans run with that one into characterizing these supposed looters as “black” except that’s not the word they use.) so it’s no longer just “the jews.”

Ok, that’s my 3 cents du jour, and thanks onawah, I really appreciate your update,

Best

xylo





PG and E. Simple. Think like a pyschopath. Have they declared bankruptcy after failing to do appropriate maintenance causing massive fires? Deferred or ignored maintenance would have boosted their profits while padding the incomes of senior managements and the board, whose incomes are derived, in large part, from shares in the company.

In the event of a disaster, they can declare bankruptcy and then lean on the government to provide funding to get it fixed and make them 'whole' again. Look to the Tarp program that bailed out banks that were too big to fail. Same thing will happen here. They are too big to fail.

Look for more of this in the future across all infrastructure sectors. Things will crumble and private industry will walk while you pick up the bill. It's privatizations of profits and socialization of costs through your tax dollars.

Doesn't seem to be an esoteric type of conspiracy or intentional setting of fires, just good old greed. Of course the alt right media, through the University of YOutube videos would have you think otherwise.


Deborah Tavares isn't a reliable source.

Rosa Koire, however, is the real deal, imho. See: https://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/
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I REALLY hope that more Avalonians will start paying more attention to the credible sources of info about Agenda 21 and 2030. The elite are wasting no time in implementing them!


If Tavares posted it, that is cause to NOT take it seriously.

Ok, I didn't want to take this one seriously, but Deborah Tavares just posted it so now I'm not sure. Fema Camps and gas chambers...



Can you give me a bit more? Know she's a bit over the top, but so is Alex Jones and he's been right more than not.

PS Rosa Koire, who was a very reliable source, has now passed, sadly. :sad:

[ExomatrixTV]

Mounting evidence suggest that Maui fires were caused by Directed Energy Weapons

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Mounting evidence suggest that Maui fires were caused by Directed Energy Weapons

Steve Favis is an expert in computer science and advanced robotics. He has been researching the Maui fires and has compiled evidence that the technology exists to have started these fires from a satellite in earth orbit. He has also confirmed that the CCP had satellites capable of doing so above Maui at the time of the fires. His work has been published on his website stevefavis.com and includes everything you need to recreate his findings.

The most efficient way to ignite a fire on the surface from a satellite in earth orbit would be to paint the target in segments by pulsing the laser with an advanced targeting system. To see if this were possible, Favis calculated what it would require to create a meter-wide mile-long fire.

Fired from a satellite, the Earth's atmosphere will absorb and scatter some of the laser energy. And so the laser would need to be in a wavelength range that minimizes this. The most effective wavelength would be in the near-infrared range which would allow better transmission through the atmosphere. The near-infrared range would be invisible to the naked eye, and would also have a minimal reaction with objects colored blue on the Earth’s surface.

The power of the laser would need to be in the hundreds of kilowatts range. And so Favis based his calculations on a 10-megawatt laser firing from earth orbit. Assuming that the atmospheric loss amounts to 50% of the overall power and only 5 megawatts reaches the surface as a one square meter beam, it would ignite a fire almost instantly.

If this 5-megawatt beam was pulsed across a one-meter by one-mile-long area in segments, then the time to ignite the entire area would be roughly 2.7 minutes. And it would take approximately 8.8 seconds to melt an aluminum alloy wheel.

The amount of energy required to pulse a 10-megawatt laser for 2.7 minutes would require approximately 3,220 capacitors, which would amount to about 32,200 kilograms in weight.

Using Matlab software and plugging in public data provided from NORAD, he found that satellites launched and monitored by the CCP were directly above the Maui fires at the time of ignition.

The CCP’s most powerful rocket, the March 5, can launch up to 48,500 kilograms of payload. Which is enough to carry the required payload. But Favis has found that the CCP has much more powerful lasers deployed already. He has calculated that the CCP has up to 70 GIGAwatt lasers in earth orbit right now. That’s at least a hundred times more powerful than what he factored into these calculations.

Adjusting NORAD’s default Coordinated Universal Time, or UTC, to the local time zones Favis found the following:

The Olinda fire was ignited at approximately 10:47 pm on August 7th. At this exact time, CCP satellite labeled NORAD_53299 was directly over the location.

The Lahaina fire was ignited at approximately 6:37 am on August 8th. At this exact time, CCP satellite labeled NORAD_55836 was directly over the location.

The Kula fire was ignited at approximately 11:30 am on August 8th. At this exact time, CCP satellite labeled NORAD_53299 was directly over the location.

The so-called Deep State does not want you to know that deadly lasers of mass destruction are freely traveling above us. And you can check this all for yourself at stevefavis.com where he provides the source code and has developed a specific software program that you can download and check for these satellites yourself.


gregreese.substack.com (https://gregreese.substack.com)
stevefavis.com (https://www.stevefavis.com)

[Raskolnikov]

Try this 22 page thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105568-The-Hoaxes-of-Deborah-Tavares
Also see this post, which I have copied and pasted as follows: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103940-The-strangeness-of-the-California-Fires&p=1321287&viewfull=1#post1321287

Thanks onawah. After scanning the beginning of that thread, I will keep an open mind about Tavares, too many red flags with Mr. snoop4truth the lawyer with an axe to grind. The whole thing just felt like an exercise in damage control and anger mismanagement through some CIA spook, maybe he should have called himself spook4truth. No disrepect meant. It also appears that nearly everyone on PA had serious issues and concerns with this guy, yourself included (though I haven't made it to the end of the thread, maybe that changes?) Honestly, I've always felt a little distrustful about everything Tavares says, though she appears earnest in most respects, and know I have to take it all with a grain of salt and do my own due diligence in uncovering the truth. Thanks for the heads up. That's one hell of a thread you threw at me!

[onawah]

Yes, and yes, I did change my mind and came to agree with Snoop.

Try this 22 page thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105568-The-Hoaxes-of-Deborah-Tavares
Also see this post, which I have copied and pasted as follows: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?103940-The-strangeness-of-the-California-Fires&p=1321287&viewfull=1#post1321287

Thanks onawah. After scanning the beginning of that thread, I will keep an open mind about Tavares, too many red flags with Mr. snoop4truth the lawyer with an axe to grind. The whole thing just felt like an exercise in damage control and anger mismanagement through some CIA spook, maybe he should have called himself spook4truth. No disrepect meant. It also appears that nearly everyone on PA had serious issues and concerns with this guy, yourself included (though I haven't made it to the end of the thread, maybe that changes?)

[Rizotto]

As a Canadian who never watches TV, I don't really know much about Oprah. So, when I came across the video below I was struck by Oprah's inappropriate smirks throughout most of that video. Completely inappropriate smirks considering the context of the horrible tragedy of the Lahaina fire. Has she always been like that? Perhaps I'm misreading her body language, but to me it looks like "duping delight".

(a good description of 'duping delight' at this link: https://psychopathsinlife.com/psychopaths-and-duping-delight/)

(Note #2: a good example of 'duping delight' is the smirking Justin Turdeau when he's lying, which he does often)

Oprah FINALLY Responds To Maui Residents Exposing Her LAND GRAB SCAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e91iJ7-bvI&lc=Ugy48QjuVLkXK5wnVGR4AaABAg

[Arcturian108]

Clear explanation of the best theory explaining how DEWs were used in Maui, involving Chinese satellites:
https://twitter.com/TPV_John/status/1704249780564640023
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[Raskolnikov]

Blue house aside, post this purely for the not-an-f'ing-wildfire/clearly-an-attack factor...

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that is identical with what you see in this one...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhdi96Rf_jk

and the tree burning from the inside out like we saw for the first time in the California fires at the 00:30 mark in this one...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qFoRaTm8oQ

[Raskolnikov]

Some side by side comparisons of Lahaina before and after the fire.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ZnayPTe4c

[Raskolnikov]

Couple short news clips of interest.

MORNING BEAT: HARROWING EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS CAST DOUBT ON OFFICIAL LAHAINA FIRE

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This one's great, local leaves car while escaping fire to put out someone else's fire.

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[Raskolnikov]

27 names remain on the Maui police and FBI unaccounted list?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_YppkHcHNw

Wendy Bell of Newsmax's Common Sense - The media's already forgotten about Maui, "Isn't it a coincidence?"

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[ExomatrixTV]

Joe Rogan EXPOSES How The Hollywood Elites Like Oprah Want To STEAL Land In Maui:

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Joe Rogan, the well-known voice of reason and curiosity, has recently unleashed a powerful call to action in defense of Maui residents. He's taken a stand against elites who are greedily eyeing the land of these islanders, questioning the audacity of anyone trying to snatch away their homes, especially during their most vulnerable moments. The people of Maui, particularly in Lahaina, are deeply troubled by the looming possibility that their ancestral lands might be taken by the state. But here's the twist: it's not just the government at play here. Wealthy real estate investors, developers, and elites are also in the mix, making enticing offers for the fire-ravaged land. So, join us as we unravel the compelling story of post-tragedy Maui, where forces both public and private seem determined to grab a piece of paradise from its rightful owners. Just recently, Joe Rogan invited Tulsi Gabbard, who represented Hawaii's second congressional district in the U.S. from 2013 to 2021, to his show, "The Joe Rogan Experience."

During their conversation, they delved into the response to the devastating fires that struck Maui. What's really eye-opening is that Joe Rogan brought up some concerning allegations about someone attempting to take away the land belonging to Maui's residents. And surprisingly, Tulsi confirmed Joe's suspicions right there on the show. Now, here's where it gets interesting. The folks on the show, including Joe and Tulsi, didn't take kindly to the idea of snatching land affected by the Maui wildfires for things like workforce housing or a memorial. They saw it as morally wrong and a breach of people's rights and sovereignty. This news hit the public like a bolt from the blue. People felt that discussing taking over this land right after a terrible tragedy showed a shocking lack of empathy and timing. It felt like an abuse of power and a disregard for the suffering of those affected. Tulsi Gabbard didn't stop there. She also shed light on the lack of government help for the communities hit by the Maui wildfires. In the aftermath, neighbors and families had to lean on each other for support and supplies because the government didn't step in. Tulsi even hopped on a plane from the main airport in Maui to a smaller one near the affected area to deliver much-needed supplies to the community dealing with the aftermath of the wildfires. As if that wasn't enough, towards the end of last year, Oprah Winfrey made headlines once again by acquiring two 10-acre pieces of land, each for just a hundred thousand dollars.

This purchase stirred up quite a mix of reactions from the local residents. Some were concerned that this acquisition might contribute to the displacement of native Hawaiians. It's worth noting that Oprah already owned over 100 acres of land in Maui, which means she now boasts ownership of roughly 1,000 acres on the island. Now, here's where the public's frustration really kicks in. Instead of trying to push out the residents who've been through so much, people are wondering why the government doesn't make use of some of Oprah's land instead. It's almost like a logical solution staring them in the face. These offers are being labeled as predatory by experts, mainly because they're taking advantage of the people's misfortune and desperation. This has led local authorities to step in and take action to protect residents who are not only dealing with the loss of their loved ones but also the loss of their homes and livelihoods due to these catastrophic wildfires. Thankfully, some heroes have stepped in to protect Maui's people and their land.

They're shouting it loud and clear: "Maui is not up for sale!" One of these heroes is a law professor named Troy Andrade. He's working his socks off to educate and shield Maui residents from these sneaky tricks. The Hawaii Department of Commerce and Consumer Affairs has raised a big red flag about these tricky real estate pitches. They're warning folks in Maui to be careful. This is where Joe Rogan stepped in, boldly calling out the elites for their shady dealings. Let's face it, losing your loved ones, your homes, and even your land all at once is an incredibly heart-wrenching experience. In the face of adversity, Maui residents are standing strong, united in their determination to protect their homes, their land, and their way of life. It's a battle to keep Maui in the hands of the people who call it home. They're calling for unity, telling everyone to spread the word and stand tall to save Maui from those who want to snatch it away. Maui belongs to its people, and they're ready to fight to keep it that way. So, what do you think about this wild situation in Maui? Share your thoughts below.

[norman]

The virgin volcanic rock under the surface of the Hawaiian islands is rich in LITHIUM. (According to Ole Dammegard )

Maybe the super rich land grabbers are only interested in the mineral rights.


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121937-F.E.M.A.-D.E.W.s-Camps-and-Kill-Cities-Etc&p=1578282&viewfull=1#post1578282

[Raskolnikov]

Sorry guys, but wtf are they spraying on the people of NYC?

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[lake]

Just saying .... from May 2020!

NEXT X-37B SPACEPLANE MISSION TO TEST SPACE-TO-EARTH MICROWAVE POWER BEAMING (https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/next-x-37b-spaceplane-mission-to-test-space-to-earth-microwave-power-beaming/)

[Eric J (Viking)]

UFC fighter Bryce Mitchell made some very interesting comments after he won his fight by decision against Dan Ige.

After winning, Mitchell grabbed his Bible put his arm around his opponent Dan Ige who is a native Hawaiian, and stated “I brought this Bible in here tonight because I do believe Satan is taking over this earth. Something specifically I’m talking about is these fires in Hawaii. I will be donating 5,000 to Dan Ige tonight to give to people in Hawaii.”

Mitchell continued “We have to show Satan he can do nothing through the power of Christ when we come together.”

The UFC star then switched gears and stated “These fires in Hawaii I don’t believe they were natural I believe they were man-made they are trying to take the land from the natives.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/ufc-fighter-holds-bible-after-big-win-says/

Eric

[Raskolnikov]

Second half of this is worth watching.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySDUZ8Wnt9w

Fire in San Agustin Beach, Argentina, looks a lot like Lahaina.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uREFPTmCuko

More footage and map of the area.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H54tLaO7bg

And supposedly can see the DEW in this one?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2pci94lU_E

[onawah]

Interesting observation from the witness at the very end, pointing out that Speaker Kevin McCarthy was wearing a shirt with the owl emblem of the Bohemian Club during his visit to Maui.

Second half of this is worth watching.

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[Icare]

Commissioner for homeless speaks out saying they have the roadmap to what is going to happen to so many people in Lahaina: (short)
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[Raskolnikov]

If you want to get into the heads of those who experienced it and what they're doing now, how they're coping, The People of Lahaina is a new docuseries that looks pretty well done.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-RReGcrMB4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GGBL-MfqZw

Looks like they did a series on the War in Ukraine too.

[ExomatrixTV]

The fake Maui wildfires were orchestrated by the globalist elite to poison our air, water, and soil, and redistribute property into the hands of the elite, according to a World Economic Forum insider who warns that “Build back better” literally means destroying things first and then rebuilding according to New World Order plans.

The World Economic Forum is using Maui as Ground Zero to launch a devastating attack on the people, which has laid the groundwork for the rapid reconstruction of the island into 15 minute cities designed to lock down ordinary people in vast outdoor prisons from which there will be no escape.

This evil plan has been in the works for years, and now we are seeing it play out in all its grisly details before our very eyes.

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[norman]

https://t.me/GeneralMCNews/5860
GeneralMCNews/5860

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/clif_high/status/1706655951779225980?s=20

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[Raskolnikov]

Kinda hard to follow mountian_jim, but I'd have to agree.

Looks like they're letting a few in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wT0aaGiWaE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Gla7gLI84

[Raskolnikov]

Congress joins the Maui cover up - Dave Hodges.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdHFlinStvY

Why are so many Lahaina victims afraid of their state and local government?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXXUy9UTK_c

[Raskolnikov]

Kaipo Kekona sharing knowledge.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLYmy8zsxU

[Raskolnikov]

JAMES O’KEEFE UNDERCOVER IN LAHAINA PART 2

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MAUI NATIVE WHO LOST HOME IN FIRE SAYS SHE'S NOT LEAVING

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[Raskolnikov]

Lahaina residents forced out of hotels on September 30th,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T62JXbAU-qo

as Governor "Green stressed that the displaced survivors won't be forced out of hotels to make room for tourists, with October typically being a slow month for tourism." Spoken like a true politician.

Hawaii economists say Lahaina locals could be priced out of rebuilt town without zoning changes
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/hawaii-economists-say-lahaina-locals-could-be-priced-out-of-rebuilt-town-without-zoning-changes/ar-AA1h7pJL

[Franny]

Govt agencies continue stealing items donated to Lahaina people.

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[Pam]

Sorry guys, but wtf are they spraying on the people of NYC?

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Why on earth, or maybe I should say only on earth would they not distribute information about this spraying ahead of time. Notices on every door, every pole on every window in all businesses in the area.? Announcements several hours repeated over and over again? Looks like we don't even get an announcement it on the news place announcements up weeks ahead of time? To at least give the option of leaving the area or really trying to seal the house off,get the kids and animals inside for a bare minimum. Why announce it at the exact time you are blasting it down the the streets. How about stating what kind of pesticide it is. I believe all or most pesticides are a form of neurotoxin. Wouldn't it have been nice to know a antedote? Something is off on this one , big time. Or maybe common sense has finally fled the coup on a permanent basis.

[Raskolnikov]

Why on earth, or maybe I should say only on earth would they not distribute information about this spraying ahead of time. Notices on every door, every pole on every window in all businesses in the area.? Announcements several hours repeated over and over again? Looks like we don't even get an announcement it on the news place announcements up weeks ahead of time? To at least give the option of leaving the area or really trying to seal the house off,get the kids and animals inside for a bare minimum. Why announce it at the exact time you are blasting it down the the streets. How about stating what kind of pesticide it is. I believe all or most pesticides are a form of neurotoxin. Wouldn't it have been nice to know a antedote? Something is off on this one , big time. Or maybe common sense has finally fled the coup on a permanent basis.

Agreed Pam. If you remember the secret military experiments and spraying cities over the last 8(?) decades, it appears those in power hold about as much regard for us as a lab coat would hold for his experimental rats, or Fauci for his dogs, and now they're pushing their agenda forth at full tilt. It's disgusting and disturbing and it needs to be stopped.

Here's Eric West giving a rundown on the Maui cover up:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFG8n3jsU6A

[Raskolnikov]

Bad actors push the natural disaster narrative. Chief Pelletier responds to a question about how long the remains of the dead will be held by asserting this, "...I think it's very important that people understand this, though, this is not a crime, this is a natural disaster."

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[Raskolnikov]

Some new perspectives and information. One local says, “We have five kids. And so, at the time, one of our kids was at home with us. We were waiting for two more kids to arrive but there was no cell phone communication at that time from Lahaina to Lahaina. What was very odd was that we could call the mainland, and the mainland could call us, but we could not call each other. That’s another very strange thing.” He had to call family in California to finally reach his kids.

Love the section at 34:30 on cutting coconuts from the trees. The guy complains about junk food culture taking over the island while he stays close to the land and couldn’t look healthier or be in better shape.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Of_YhQmK_Q

[Lilyofthestars]

Excuse my confusion here, I welcome any clarification - but I was trying to do some digging/researching on San Agustín beach, and it says it's in the Canary Islands - not Argentina. San Agustín the town would be in Columbia... The guy who said "See that beam right there" - well that was a light post, clearly. No offense. I believe DEW is definitely responsible for Lahaina... But I can't find any information on this San Agustín beach (or town?) event.. Is it even recent footage? The only thing I can find is near identical footage from five years ago.. Is it possible these people on Tiktok took a bunch of old footage from five years ago and claimed it was recent? This kind of thing happens all the time.

[norman]

I don't think a DEW beam is a visible light thing at all.

But, I imagine that such a weapon up there on a space platform would have a few different functions rolled into one system, A pin point flash of a lazer could start a small fire in almost an instant, then an energy beam would take over to super heat the area around the fire to make it expand and spread in chosen directions. The beam would be broader than a pin-point lazer. The targeting and sighting would probably be the same for both functions and they might be constructed like a double barrell weapon.

And, there could be more than that going on.

[Raskolnikov]

Excuse my confusion here, I welcome any clarification - but I was trying to do some digging/researching on San Agustín beach, and it says it's in the Canary Islands - not Argentina. San Agustín the town would be in Columbia... The guy who said "See that beam right there" - well that was a light post, clearly. No offense. I believe DEW is definitely responsible for Lahaina... But I can't find any information on this San Agustín beach (or town?) event.. Is it even recent footage? The only thing I can find is near identical footage from five years ago.. Is it possible these people on Tiktok took a bunch of old footage from five years ago and claimed it was recent? This kind of thing happens all the time.

Excellent question, Lilyofthestars, because Mendoza, Argentina is closer to the border of Chile than to the Atlantic coast. It's interesting to note that the word "Playa," which I always thought meant "Beach," is defined as "a flat-bottom depression found in desert basins and adjacent coasts, formed by flooding and precipitation; a nearly level area at the bottom of an undrained desert basin, sometimes temporarily covered with water." So I guess it could be inland and not on the coast. I think what the guy was refering to as the DEW in his video was the light waves that were off to the left of the light post at the 00:34 mark. Who's to say. Can't find much else on it either, but gotta say all those burnt cars and fried twisted scrap metal sure don't make sense in a normal fire, even if it was five years ago...

How about using lasers and microwaves:

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[Raskolnikov]

How difficult would it be to FOIA the phone records of "the nation’s top emergency management officials" who were attending a conference in Waikiki that day? Public officials right? Hellova coincidence that "Those attending were quite literally the who’s who of disaster response locally and across the Pacific. They were gathered in Waikiki for an annual FEMA disaster meeting, a half-hour plane ride away from a wildfire that would become the deadliest in the United States in more than a century. The agenda listed 74 attendees at this year’s Pacific Partnership Meeting including FEMA leadership and several members of the Center for Homeland Defense and Security." Just wondering what kind of communications were being sent/received by each of them, who they were in touch with, etc...

As Maui burned, Hawaii’s top emergency management officials were at a Waikiki conference
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/08/23/disaster-response-conference-went-with-hawaiis-top-emergency-officials-there-maui-burned/

Maui Strong presents 10K signatures to Gov. Green to stop West Maui tourism reopen


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms947J4Vj4o

[Raskolnikov]

"I cannot sleep at night knowing that our kids are out there wondering when they're gonna go home - (three minutes!) - when are they going to have a house for themselves to go back to, and how can the parents explain it to them, we can't. They're not going to bring their kids back to a place that they have no, they can't see their toys, they can't function. It's going to be so devastating for them to even do that. So I think we as a community need to sit down, and we need to start planning out how we envision our future moving forward without government involvement because it takes too long, and we gotta do it, and we gotta do it now. Mahalo."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoYPFyuShzo

[Raskolnikov]

Something strange going on at Bitchute concerning the Maui fire. When I do a search now, only four results turn up (see attachment below), and they're all about a brush fire some 4 years ago. Even a search for Lahaina turns up very little, I got three recent and then all the rest were from years ago. Are they whitewashing at Bitchute?

DR. DOUGLAS GABRIEL EXPLAINS DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS AND LAHAINA.

Dr. Douglas Gabriel is an Expert in High Technology. He served in the US Military and the NSA. He is also an Expert on the Exploration of the Hawaiian Islands and has ventured into the most amazing and dangerous places where very few have ever seen. He is also extremely knowledgeable about the Hawaiian Culture. This is the final segment of a 3 part series where he describes his adventures in depth (link to full episode is in the description).

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[onawah]

Catherine Austin Fitts - Globalists Plan to Seize Assets Through Invisible Weapons Systems

Catherine Austin Fitts - Globalists Plan to Seize Assets Through Invisible Weapons Systems
ZEEE MEDIA - 7 days ago

"Catherine Austin-Fitts joins Maria Zeee to expose the globalist tactics to seize your land and assets through invisible weapons systems as we recently saw through Maui, detailing the tactics they will use as they move towards their ultimate goal of the New World Order."
https://www.brighteon.com/e4a3efca-35df-4fa1-8498-c91ec9cc33e7

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[onawah]

CARBONIZED TOAD FOUND IN THE ASHES AT LAHAINA GROUND ZERO! WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?
October 16, 2023
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/carbonized-toad-found-in-the-ashes-at-lahaina-ground-zero-what-really-happened/

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"In the wake of the Lahaina fire, eyewitnesses posted videos online of flash-carbonized bodies, like the cat that was found standing up, the perfectly-sculpted dog and the bodies of the people found on Front Street.

Hawaiian health advocate, Michelle Melendez of StandTogetherHawaii is joined by Arrow Tree Branch (a pseudonym), who has just spent 2 weeks in Maui and he brings with him an amazing artifact that he says he sifted out of the ashes where there was melted aluminum 20 feet away: a toad that was flash-carbonized in mid-leap, which he suspects was likely done by the Directed Energy Weapons that were deployed against innocent civilians going about their day on August 8th, 2023.

Since there is an active cover-up of the Lahaina crime scene, this specimen could be valuable for a forensic investigation of what actually happened to this toad, to see if there are any characteristics in the toad’s cell structures, etc that can be confirmed to be a result of microwave and/or other radiation, as it is highly unlikely that even a very hot fire would have resulted in the strange, petrified bodies that were seen in Lahaina after the fire."

[onawah]

Lahaina Reopens and New Questions Arise
More hints of Directed Energy Weapons in Maui
GREG REESE
NOV 4, 2023
https://gregreese.substack.com/p/lahaina-reopens-and-new-questions?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=706779&post_id=138556924&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=p7227&utm_medium=email

(Podcast at the link)

"Much like other recent fires such as Paradise, California, there have been several anomalies involving the recent fires in Maui. In the middle of an area untouched by fire, a random car with melted glass, and melted aluminum wheels.

NORAD tracked CCP satellites directly above all three fires at the time of ignition. Many people are saying it’s Directed Energy Weapons, and we are not getting any answers from our criminal government.

The people of Lahaina have been given access back into their neighborhood. And there are more of these anomalies being discovered.

A viral video of the Lahaina Pentecostal Church shows what appears at first glance to be an electrical fire in the ceiling. But how is everything in the Church pristine except for a portion of the roof seam and the wall at one end? Many are saying this looks like a laser cut through the roof.

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There is an area with just a few buildings that have been devastated by fire while everything surrounding them has been untouched. It is unclear as to how these random buildings caught fire. And there are cars in untouched areas that somehow completely burned out. With melted glass and aluminum.

In one lot, the wood survived the fire, but everything else was turned into piles of ash. In many piles, this ash appears to have been metal.

We aren’t getting any answers. The victims of Lahaina are being ignored while the government funnels money to Israel.

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And a frog has been found at ground zero which has been frozen in mid-jump. Suggesting an instantaneous flash of high energy.

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[Rizotto]

Lahaina Getting Screwed Out Of New Housing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FH8SIkDk9Y

[Innocent Warrior]

Hello - I haven't been following this thread, I've seen enough here in Australia to know it would be infuriating to see what was done, but I have a brief clip to pass on. I don't know if it has any validity to it and don't have the time to see if it checks out but if it is true then it's worth confirming to whatever degree it can be.

Go to the 25 second mark in this video, the section I'm referring to is brief.

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[thepainterdoug]

Thanks Innocent Warrior/ if true, far out.

[onawah]

Yes, there is evidence of that (of only houses painted blue being spared from the DEWs) which has been presented before, and it looks convincing.

Hello - I haven't been following this thread, I've seen enough here in Australia to know it would be infuriating to see what was done, but I have a brief clip to pass on. I don't know if it has any validity to it and don't have the time to see if it checks out but if it is true then it's worth confirming to whatever degree it can be.

Go to the 25 second mark in this video, the section I'm referring to is brief.

[Innocent Warrior]

Thanks Innocent Warrior/ if true, far out.

Hi Doug.

I know that colour has been used by aerospace engineers to shield instruments from certain wavelengths. After my husband told me that I had a little look to see if I could find information on colour shielding and lasers but didn't find anything, but did come across a YT shorts clip with audio that's in the video I posted earlier.

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If it is the case that they can be programmed then the shielding colour would depend on the laser. It's possible it would be kept to a single colour so those in the know could shield against it, hence the blue roof trend in China etc..

@Anyone inclined to look into this further - If this is the case, citizen photos and videos of the aftermath in Maui should support the theory. It might pay to check images from earlier fires, like the Cali fires, because they all said the same thing, "We thought we had more time", which was odd coming from so many people who were used to fires. If that checks out then it would pay to see if the blue roof trend checks out, perhaps starting with the area in the first video, comparing current images with earlier images from the history section.

Perhaps there's a member or guest who is an expert in something that can confirm the science of the colour/wavelengths aspect of it.

This may have been posted here already but I also found the news report below, which would have been a few months before the fires.

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@Onawah - hi, I composed my reply to Doug before getting back to the forum to post it...wow, OK, thank you.

[Ewan]

You could see blue roofs in Thailand year 2000 and almost certainly before, I'd say they are quite common across SE Asia in general.

[Raskolnikov]

James Corbett (The Corbett Report) | Shelby Hosana, co-founder of Unjected.com, joins us to discuss her new book, Burn Back Better, detailing her experience on Maui during the recent Lahaina fire and what the investigation so far has uncovered about the dark agenda behind the tragic events of August 8, 2023.

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[Raskolnikov]

(Sorry, just realized same video posted by onawah above, but still interesting for the comments:chuckle:) So Eric put out a couple more videos. More on-the-scene burn-pattern investigation in which he asks the viewers for help, worth a watch. But what struck me most were some of the comments which I'll add below the video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciYNp6QSaOw

"Hey Eric, I was a professional fire fighter for 8 years. At 4:13 you pointed out a propane tank. That propane tank has a vent on it. The vent is designed to release pressure when the propane tank is heated up. This prevents it from exploding. If the propane tank was super heated, it would create a blow torch effect coming out of the release valve. On the contrary, this doesn’t appear as a point of origin- which would be where the fire started. It would be interesting to know how much propane is in the tank now verses prior to the fire. Thank you Eric. You are the one who inspired me to take an interest in this situation. Sharing and praying for all of you, Mahalo 🤙"

"The 2 firefighter chiefs who came forward after Paradise fires and commented on anomalies, died soon after. I doubt any firefighters will come forward with truths they know they will be taken out."

"Eric those electric meters are “Smart Meters”. The electrical wiring runs throughout the walls, ceilings. The energy surge from the DEW hits the meters, the surge runs through the wiring through the building not burning the walls, just heat warp, microwave energy cooks everything from the inside out, leaving shell. The metal won’t burn, but will melt with high energy heat pressure. The concrete is weird, but I’ve got a theory. What if the laser missed the target 🎯 (the building) ? The laser made such an evident cut it was too obvious to leave so they had the evidence dug out, & replaced fast. That’s why it’s still ashy and not properly leveled."

"Eric, you should maybe try and get a copy of a Pre Aug 8th Town Planning map of Lahaina, and overlay it with a future town planning map of Lahaina and see what pops! Perhaps the land where Emerald Plaza is, has been designated for other purposes."

"I watched a video where they interviewed several survivors. One man who survived by going in a part of that drainage ditch described it as there being fireballs raining from the sky. I don't know how those fireballs formed, but it would make sense that these separate places were hit with those fireballs."


Here's another I haven't watched yet. Nice to see people still taking an interest. It gets frustrating watching them get away with such things and march on with their Totalitarian Tiptoe (as David Icke puts it) at the expense of humanity.

Update: Watched and outraged. The theft of their land is happening in real time. The banks have given the locals three months in which they won't have to pay their mortgage payments, during which time their credit won't be affected and interest will not accrue, but at the end of that three month reprieve they are expected to pay those three months in full or the banks will take action, and that action will be foreclosure on their property. The insurance companies do nothing and the government has given them $700.00. We really need to stand up to this tyranny or this will be our fate too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADGBiKAatc

[ExomatrixTV]

I, Pet Goat 2 is deleted and Maui Fires were caused by DEWS:

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This is a quick video going over how the Maui Fires were caused by Directed Energy Weapons, and how it's coincidental that the creator of I, Pet Goat 2 happens to have deleted their animated video on September after 11 years.

[Rizotto]

Harrowing eyewitness testimony of escaping the fire.
And urgent call for help: survivors desperately need financial help. Major gaps in government's response. Please spread the word, contact 'influencers' about the plight of Maui's survivors.

EYEWITNESS! Maui Fires How and Where Did It Start?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei-Yum_1z-A

[Rizotto]

Interesting updated video of burned out areas. (Notice that some houses with red roofs were spared...)

Please don't forget Lahaina residents, they need our help. Some things you can do: write to your representative, freedom of information requests, donations. See video for details.

Updated Drone Footage | Lahaina Fire Devastation | Puamana and South Front St November 25th, 2023

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuSXVmeigmQ

[jaybee]

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can't have poor people taking up space in prime coastal beauty spots.... can we..... [/sarcasm]

I just did a post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99671-Weaponising-the-Weather&p=1588107&viewfull=1#post1588107) in the Weaponizing the Weather thread and it looks like Acapulco, Mexico is getting the 'treatment'... this time with a hurricane (Otis)....

there's drone footage in this link...

Drone shows devastation in Acapulco a month after Otis (https://abcnews.go.com/International/video/drone-shows-devastation-acapulco-month-after-otis-105175704)

and Gaza...? is there a secret plot to put a 15 minute city there (on the Mediterranean coast) or is that just about other things... like a land grab for the oil.... or is it a combination of both (or)...

Building a 'proper' 15 minute city doesn't mean just rewiring a few old buildings and sticking up 5G and whatnot - the real deal is going to be building them from scratch in carefully chosen locations... perhaps the majority of the public isn't meant to be around when they have been built - but will be a bolt hole for the chosen transgender/transhuman mixed race mini populations - that have no reproductive capacity and will fill their time with useless activities and virtual reality games.... perhaps the new super wealthy fascist Dictator Class will pop in from time to time and be treated like royalty... (they will still be able to reproduce and keep THEIR family lines going...no doubt)

better stop there before I get carried away... :) you know how easily that can happen when more dots connect....

[Innocent Warrior]

A little more on lasers and the colour blue according to Dr Lee Merritt at the 24 minute mark HERE (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114088-Dr-Lee-Merritt-The-vaccine-is-preparing-the-world-for-a-mass-death-event&p=1588936&viewfull=1#post1588936) (post #150 by RunningDeer).

[ExomatrixTV]

Fascinating Compilation >>> According to AP & Reuters "Fact Checkers" they are all possible use of DEW in Lahaina "baseless claims" ... Really? ... Since when are legit QUESTIONS "baseless"?


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[Pris]

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In the first part of this stream, Salty Cracker shares his take on the aftermath of what happened to Lahaina.


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Reeee Stream Sunday edition from Salty Cracker. I'm three quarters of the way through and it's got to be one of Salty's best streams. He knocks this one out of the ballpark! Salty covers and analyzes world events, politics, and pretty much everything in between. He's super energized and is a barrel of laughs while expressing his serious frustration with a non-stop barrage of f-bombs. From what I've seen of this stream so far, in my opinion, he is pretty much spot on about everything he covers. Salty sees it all from a bird's eye view and puts the pieces together from a sound, sane perspective.

A few of the highlights:

- Lahaina, Hawaii
- Iowah caucus (Trump, front-runner, Trump handles a heckler like a boss)
- Canadian residents are warned by police not to show videos of thugs stealing packages (protect the thugs)
- high food prices
- a tick gets shot by a bullet
- FAA diversity push to include hiring people with 'severe intellectual' and 'psychiatric' disabilities
- Disease "X", "COVID", "vaccines", and so much more!
- also covers Trump indictments and MAGA movement!


Disease X to be Unleashed ReeEEeE Stream 01-14-24
CUSS WARNING, ADULT CONTENT
https://rumble.com/v4715hh-disease-x-to-be-unleashed-reeeeee-stream-01-14-24.html
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Link to post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120906-Trump-The-World-s-Greatest-Troll&p=1596002&viewfull=1#post1596002

[Chakra]

52556 :chuckle: OOPs

From this video - you'll also see the blue umbrella's that someone said - were supposed to be photo shopped. :p

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[ExomatrixTV]

Tulsi Gabbard on the Aftermath of Maui:

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[Pris]

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52677


Salty's Reeee Streams are always a blast. I'm dropping this one into the Lahaina thread because Salty talks about the supposed possible release of "a billion biopesticide lab-altered mosquitoes" in Maui every week for 20 years. That sounds so fake -- I'm calling BS on this! So basically they are saying they could possibly release billions upon billions of little flying bio-weapon syringes in Maui?

Look at what they just did to Lahaina! You've got to be kidding me. Land grab anyone? Clearly, the "elites" want all the nice waterfront properties for themselves and are... going to acquire them one way or another. "Global Warming! Climate Change! Ocean's rising!" "Direct energy weapons -- suspicious fires!" (apparently real) And now, "Bio-weapon mosquitoes, oh my!"

Salty takes the bio-weapon mosquitoes story seriously. But, think about it. Guess who else already lives on Maui? That's right -- THE SUPER RICH ALREADY OWN PROPERTY AND LIVE IN MAUI! They're not going to make it unlivable for themselves.

This story of billions of bio-weapon mosquitoes to be possibly released in Maui sounds like a tactic to scare "the little people" locals into selling their land and fleeing the island(s). The globalists just injected the world with the deadly mRNA bioweapon during their PLANdemic. Now, with everyone scared to death of injections, what could be more scary than flying bio-weapon syringes? I think the idea here is to frighten "the little people" with a fake mosquito story so that even more people sell their valuable properties at bargain prices to the globalist vultures.

Geez, in my opinion, Salty bought this one hook, line, and sinker in that he even recommends people immediately get off the islands any way they can. See how easy it is to scare people and con them into giving up their land? If you can't convince them the oceans are rising and you couldn't burn out enough of them, send in the bio-weapon mosquitoes (or at least pretend to).

Wow. Globalists are truly vile creatures. (Just think how much valuable waterfront property they've already acquired around the world since they rolled out their "ocean's rising" climate change fear hoax?)


Start video at 38:09.


Screw NATO ReeEEeE Stream 02-11-24
CUSS WARNING
https://rumble.com/v4cuyvi-screw-nato-reeeeee-stream-02-11-24.html
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[norman]

Different Island but worth noticing.

A tech billionaire is quietly buying up land in Hawaii. No one knows why
NPR - Dara Kerr - FEBRUARY 28, 2024

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/28/1232564250/billionaire-benioff-buys-hawaii-land-salesforce

Nothing to see here . . . . . but

Since 2000, Benioff has bought at least 38 parcels of land through at least six anonymous limited liability companies, or LLCs, and one nonprofit. All of the property owned by the LLCs has the same mailing address — a P.O. box in the San Francisco Bay Area — and the same registered agent in Palo Alto, California. None of the documentation has Benioff's name, but he doesn't dispute any of it.

[norman]

The Roseanne Barr Podcast - 037 - "No water coming out of fire hydrants" Lahaina Rep Elle Cochran (https://podbay.fm/p/the-roseanne-barr-podcast/e/1709186400)
1 hour 12 minutes - Posted Feb 29, 2024

SHOW NOTES
Hawaii state representative Elle Cochran (District 14-Lahaina) details the government’s ineffectual response following the horrific tragedy last August. Despite being a Democrat, Elle does not tow party lines in laying blame against the corrupt Democrat-controlled government of Hawaii and the awful response by Joe Biden. Despite having different political views, Roseanne and Elle agree on one thing- the proud Hawaiian people deserve better than being fodder for rich land developers.


Elle Cochran - Hawaii State Representative

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/legislature/memberpage.aspx?member=253&year=2023

https://www.facebook.com/VoteElleCochran/


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[mountain_jim]

Is this real? (He did not say blue, he said right roof, but still)

https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1763885098754031958?s=20

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Biden admits the conspiracy theory that "Directed Energy Weapons" caused the Maui and Texas fires. These weapons can damage their targets with highly focused energy, like lasers, but the color blue remains unaffected.

— 1776 (@TheWakeninq) March 2, 2024

[ExomatrixTV]

Different Island but worth noticing.

A tech billionaire is quietly buying up land in Hawaii. No one knows why
NPR - Dara Kerr - FEBRUARY 28, 2024

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/28/1232564250/billionaire-benioff-buys-hawaii-land-salesforce

Nothing to see here . . . . . but

Since 2000, Benioff has bought at least 38 parcels of land through at least six anonymous limited liability companies, or LLCs, and one nonprofit. All of the property owned by the LLCs has the same mailing address — a P.O. box in the San Francisco Bay Area — and the same registered agent in Palo Alto, California. None of the documentation has Benioff's name, but he doesn't dispute any of it.


weforum.org/agenda/authors/marc-benioff (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/authors/marc-benioff/) << that guy? :thumbsdown:

Top 10 Creepiest Most Dystopian Things Pushed By The World Economic Forum (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum)

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/JackStr42679640/status/1764040787875201099?s=20

1764040787875201099

[Eric J (Viking)]

Not looking good in Haiti….

Haiti Hell: State of Emergency and Curfew Imposed After Armed Gang Members Attack Capital Port-Au-Prince and Free Thousands of Prisoners in TWO Massive Jail Breaks!

I wrote here in TGP a mere three days ago: ‘As bad as the situation in Haiti has become, with gangs controlling almost the entire capital Port-au-Prince, there is the potential for things to get even much worse.’

And how fast it got there! Haiti is now under a state of emergency and a nighttime curfew has been imposed.

In the midst of a surge of violence, armed gangs attacked the Caribbean country’s two largest prisons and freed thousands of inmates.

The 72-hour state of emergency and the curfew from 6pm to 5am are an effort ‘to restore the order and to take appropriate measures in order to regain control of the situation’.

Further reading

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/haiti-hell-state-emergency-curfew-imposed-after-armed/

[ExomatrixTV]

Similar what in Hawaii happened:


Military General Warns! Laser Weapon Emergency In US 2024:

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[Inversion]

At 14:20 he shows an orange beam that he believes was emanating from the ground up and I think it was coming from a space platform. At 22:30 he shows a clip of a green laser. At 23:17 he shows both side-by-side.

MrMBB333 (https://www.youtube.com/@MrMBB333)

03/09/24 (36:42)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5iV2c1l9Go

[norman]

Juan O'Savin is in Lahaina meeting locals and seeing strange DEW damage for himself, and shows us with his phone camera.

Juan O Savin & David Rodriguez HUGE Intel Apr 15

https://rumble.com/v4pj1p9-juan-o-savin-and-david-rodriguez-huge-intel-apr-15-bombshell-something-big-.html

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[Raskolnikov]

Over eight months ago, the deadliest fire in modern American history torched the city of Lahaina on the Hawaiian Island of Maui. So, what's it like now? Join local firefighter Jonny and me as we explore the restricted burn zone to better understand the situation from a local's perspective.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm1cfHqnMt4

[norman]

Can someone tell me again, why are we sending $60 BILLION to Ukraine when Maui still looks like a war zone.

https://t.me/tiktoknews45/25776
tiktoknews45/25776

[norman]

Maui in 15 (2023) ▪️ Maui Massacre & Land Grab ▪️ Hibbeler ▪️ Full Documentary

https://rumble.com/v41jfte--maui-in-15-2023-maui-massacre-and-land-grab-hibbeler-full-documentary-.html

v3yy2db/?pub=1yatds

[Raskolnikov]

Maui Conspiracy Answers from Germany. Great take on the Maui, the state of the world, and the importance of coming together at this time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU4hoirbxWc

[Bill Ryan]

Bumping this important thread with this new article on Infowars:


https://infowars.com/posts/maui-wildfire-victims-secure-4-billion-settlement

Maui Wildfire Victims Secure $4 Billion Settlement

Thousands of victims of the catastrophic Maui wildfires of 2023 will receive a $4 billion settlement, it was announced on Friday night.

The settlement will resolve all tort claims against seven different parties— the state of Hawai‘i, County of Maui, Hawaiian Electric, Kamehameha Schools, West Maui Land Co., Hawaiian Telcom, and Spectrum/Charter Communications—for their role in the death and destruction caused by the wildfires on August 8 2023. Over 2,200 claims will be settled.

Although the fires were initially blamed on climate change, including by Hawaii Governor Josh Green and White House “energy czar” John Podesta, investigations revealed critical failings by the state’s main utility provider, and that the cause was fallen power lines.

As a result, the government of Maui County filed a lawsuit (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/maui-officials-reveal-cause-devastating-wildfires-blowing-up/) against the Hawaii Electric Company and its subsidiaries alleging failure to maintain their system and power grid, as well as neglecting their duty to “properly maintain and repair the electric transmission lines, and other equipment including utility poles associated with their transmission of electricity, and to keep vegetation properly trimmed and maintained so as to prevent contact with overhead power lines and other electric equipment.”

A press release (https://governor.hawaii.gov/newsroom/office-of-the-governor-news-release-gov-green-announces-4-billion-global-settlement-in-principle-to-resolve-maui-wildfire-lawsuits/) was issued to announce the settlement, which remains subject to final documentation and court approval.

“Today, Governor Josh Green, M.D., announced a historic settlement to resolve all tort claims arising from the Maui wildfires,” the release says.

“Less than a year after devastating wildfires on Maui, the seven defendants – state of Hawai‘i, County of Maui, Hawaiian Electric, Kamehameha Schools, West Maui Land Co., Hawaiian Telcom and Spectrum/Charter Communications – undertook significant efforts to find a resolution that addresses the needs and ensures the well-being of plaintiffs, all affected individuals, and their families.

“Under the proposed terms of the global settlement agreement, which remains subject to final documentation and court approval, the seven defendants will pay $4.037 billion to provide compensation to all those who have brought claims for compensation arising from the Aug. 8, 2023 windstorms and wildfires on Maui, including the approximately 2,200 affected parties who filed lawsuits. The state of Hawaiʻi would contribute to the settlement in addition to its $65 million contribution to the One ʻOhana Fund.”

In addition to the failures of the state and utility companies that helped cause the fires, the tragedy on Maui was made yet worse by confusion and obstacles that prevented residents from fleeing. Terrified residents found exit routes blocked by barricades. Those who simply waited in their cars were engulfed by the flames.

“One family swerved around the barricade and was safe in a nearby town 48 minutes later, another drove their four-wheel-drive car down a dirt road to escape,” reported the Associated Press (https://apnews.com/article/hawaii-fires-timeline-maui-lahaina-road-block-c8522222f6de587bd14b2da0020c40e9).

“One man took a dirt road uphill, climbing above the fire and watching as Lahaina burned. He later picked his way through the flames, smoke and rubble to pull survivors to safety.

“But dozens of others found themselves caught in a hellscape, their cars jammed together on a narrow road, surrounded by flames on three sides and the rocky ocean waves on the fourth. Some died in their cars, while others tried to run for safety.”

[avid]

…but what about the untouched blue homes? Something still stinks!

[Vangelo]

Bumping this important thread with this new article on Infowars:


https://infowars.com/posts/maui-wildfire-victims-secure-4-billion-settlement

Maui Wildfire Victims Secure $4 Billion Settlement

Thousands of victims of the catastrophic Maui wildfires of 2023 will receive a $4 billion settlement, it was announced on Friday night.

The settlement will resolve all tort claims against seven different parties— the state of Hawai‘i, County of Maui, Hawaiian Electric, Kamehameha Schools, West Maui Land Co., Hawaiian Telcom, and Spectrum/Charter Communications—for their role in the death and destruction caused by the wildfires on August 8 2023. Over 2,200 claims will be settled.

Although ...

As I mentioned here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1571961&viewfull=1#post1571961), a very close friend of mine lost his house in the fire. The following is an email he received from the law firm representing him. I removed all personally identifiable information....

From: <<Names Removed>>
Date: August 2, 2024 at 8:29:23 PM MDT
To: <<Names Removed>>
Subject: Maui Fires Settlement Framework

Dear Clients,

We are writing again to clarify reports in the media that a global settlement has been reached in the Maui Fires litigation. 

Today, the Individual Action Plaintiffs (of which you are all included) and the Defendants entered into a Term Sheet establishing a global settlement framework that seeks to resolve all Maui Fire claims for a total sum of $4.037 billion.  We want to caution that this is merely a tentative settlement framework, and other than the global number, there has been no determination of how much each individual will receive – let alone the process by which the parties will arrive at those numbers.  Moreover, not all interested parties have agreed to the framework, most notably the many insurance companies who are seeking subrogation (i.e., repayment) from the Defendants for the insurance monies they paid out to claimants such as yourselves. Because the subrogating insurers are refusing to accept a reasonable portion of the Global Settlement, we have filed a motion asking Judge Cahill to limit the insurers’ ability to recover from the Defendants.

As such, this deal is far from final and there is still an enormous amount of work that must be done before it can be finalized and presented to you, the Individual Plaintiffs, for review and approval.  This process will take many more months and likely longer than a year.  While we know that you, and everyone else involved, are eager for more information regarding the settlement framework and what it will mean for your individual claims, we simply have no way of knowing that information at this time. No one does.

But know this:  We, as your attorneys, are deeply involved in the process and are doing everything in our power to maximize your potential recovery in this case, whether through a successful navigation of the global settlement framework process, or through litigation (if the settlement framework process does not succeed). This tentative settlement framework has been the result of months of extensive negotiations by all parties and is something we truly believe is in the best interest of all victims, as it will allow those harmed by the fire to receive compensation as quickly as possible and avoid the unknown and lengthy bankruptcy process (for the utility and potentially other defendants) that would otherwise be inevitable and impending. 

For now, nothing has changed in our strategy or process with respect to developing your claims to maximize your recovery, be it through the global settlement framework or litigation. Please continue to respond to our and our co-counsel’s inquiries regarding your damages claims (and documentation). We will write with more information and updates as they become available.

Mahalo,
<<Names Removed>>

[Satori]

Bumping this important thread with this new article on Infowars:


https://infowars.com/posts/maui-wildfire-victims-secure-4-billion-settlement

Maui Wildfire Victims Secure $4 Billion Settlement

Thousands of victims of the catastrophic Maui wildfires of 2023 will receive a $4 billion settlement, it was announced on Friday night.

The settlement will resolve all tort claims against seven different parties— the state of Hawai‘i, County of Maui, Hawaiian Electric, Kamehameha Schools, West Maui Land Co., Hawaiian Telcom, and Spectrum/Charter Communications—for their role in the death and destruction caused by the wildfires on August 8 2023. Over 2,200 claims will be settled.

Although ...

As I mentioned here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1571961&viewfull=1#post1571961), a very close friend of mine lost his house in the fire. The following is an email he received from the law firm representing him. I removed all personally identifiable information....

From: <<Names Removed>>
Date: August 2, 2024 at 8:29:23 PM MDT
To: <<Names Removed>>
Subject: Maui Fires Settlement Framework

Dear Clients,

We are writing again to clarify reports in the media that a global settlement has been reached in the Maui Fires litigation. 

Today, the Individual Action Plaintiffs (of which you are all included) and the Defendants entered into a Term Sheet establishing a global settlement framework that seeks to resolve all Maui Fire claims for a total sum of $4.037 billion.  We want to caution that this is merely a tentative settlement framework, and other than the global number, there has been no determination of how much each individual will receive – let alone the process by which the parties will arrive at those numbers.  Moreover, not all interested parties have agreed to the framework, most notably the many insurance companies who are seeking subrogation (i.e., repayment) from the Defendants for the insurance monies they paid out to claimants such as yourselves. Because the subrogating insurers are refusing to accept a reasonable portion of the Global Settlement, we have filed a motion asking Judge Cahill to limit the insurers’ ability to recover from the Defendants.

As such, this deal is far from final and there is still an enormous amount of work that must be done before it can be finalized and presented to you, the Individual Plaintiffs, for review and approval.  This process will take many more months and likely longer than a year.  While we know that you, and everyone else involved, are eager for more information regarding the settlement framework and what it will mean for your individual claims, we simply have no way of knowing that information at this time. No one does.

But know this:  We, as your attorneys, are deeply involved in the process and are doing everything in our power to maximize your potential recovery in this case, whether through a successful navigation of the global settlement framework process, or through litigation (if the settlement framework process does not succeed). This tentative settlement framework has been the result of months of extensive negotiations by all parties and is something we truly believe is in the best interest of all victims, as it will allow those harmed by the fire to receive compensation as quickly as possible and avoid the unknown and lengthy bankruptcy process (for the utility and potentially other defendants) that would otherwise be inevitable and impending. 

For now, nothing has changed in our strategy or process with respect to developing your claims to maximize your recovery, be it through the global settlement framework or litigation. Please continue to respond to our and our co-counsel’s inquiries regarding your damages claims (and documentation). We will write with more information and updates as they become available.

Mahalo,
<<Names Removed>>

Well, releasing that email puts the attorney-client privilege in potential jeopardy. But that may prove to be no big deal if the case settles.

The people who lost so much are entitled to be made whole—and more, for the culpability of those responsible. But the people who are responsible will not pay for any settlement or judgment. Rather, the people who are not responsible will pay for it. It will be passed on to taxpayers and insurance rate payers. Etc….

Ps. I forgot to add: it’s the same model—privatize profits and socialize losses.

[Jaak]

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[ExomatrixTV]

Flashback (So That We Never Forget!):



weforum.org/people/Oprah-Winfrey (https://www.weforum.org/people/oprah-winfrey/)
rumble.com/search/all?q=Oprah Winfrey Exposed
(https://rumble.com/search/all?q=%22Oprah%20Winfrey%22%20exposed)


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[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/iheartmindy/status/1858228499167010880

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Mindy MF Robinson 🇺🇸
@iheartmindy
🚨Breaking🚨

You're not going to believe this (yes, you are) but the incident commander for the Maui fires was just picked up for r*ping a 12 year old child....and we already know what kind of blackmail the Deep State uses to control people, so there's that piece of the puzzle.

Speaking of....is the public just never going to get answers on "why" they shut off the hydrants, never used their warning siren system, and sent people in the wrong direction to die on purpose?

Keep in mind this is the fire chief, the police chief was the one that got a lofty raise for moving there after being the incident commander for the Las Vegas shooting cover up, and the Sheriff that was in charge of that same shooting is now magically Nevada's governor somehow despite being hated by even his own party.

Gee, you'd almost think our out-of-control corrupt government coordinates these all these suspicious things on purpose, or something? 🧐


https://x.com/iheartmindy/status/1858232446191558999

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Mindy MF Robinson 🇺🇸
@iheartmindy
Oh.....and he has a history of domestic abuse the courts ignored, because of course!

Mindy MF Robinson 🇺🇸

[John Hilton]

What's Causing These Weird Fire Burn Patterns in California and Maui? Forensic Arborist Explains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IetUnvQOmKA


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[norman]

On March 22nd there is going to be a marathon live stream with experts etc, all about the Maui, Paradise LA fires and others around the world.

Juan O Savin kicks off this video with the news and asking all podcasters to help live stream it.


JUAN O SAVIN- GITMO & PAIN COMING. Q - JMC 2 25 2025

https://rumble.com/v6poqyo-juan-o-savin-gitmo-and-pain-coming.-q-jmc-2-25-2025.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

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[ExomatrixTV]

🔥 What REALLY Happened to Maui? 🔥 A REDACTED NEWS SPECIAL REPORT w Clayton Morris:

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[norman]

Great Maui Land Grab: What caused the Maui fire and is your home next?

by Michelle Melendez (Author)


4th Edition: If you’ve never questioned the Maui Fire of August 8, 2023, this book will show you why you should. You will discover many anomalies that will leave you bewildered. Experts share how it’s not only impossible it was a natural fire but also highly unlikely that the winds came from Hurricane Dora. The author leads you through an investigation of the Maui fire and the why, who, and what is coming for the Hawaii islands and the world!
Get ready to discover...



9 questionable weather events
27 fire anomalies
21 LA Fire Oddities
How the Hawaii legislation is setting the stage for the land grab
Why the land is being taken
Who is possibly responsible
What to do about it!


If you think something like this could never happen to you, think again!


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[norman]

Update on the Lahaina DEW fire survivors that are being slowly killed and driven away (https://podbay.fm/p/unleashing-intuition-secrets/e/1752854400).
michaelj5326 - 25 days ago

The Great Maui Land Grab by Michelle Melendez link use Coupon Code Truth to save 10% https://greatmauilandgrabbook.com

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In the aftermath of the devastating Lahaina wildfires, many local residents have raised concerns about the potential for large corporations, investors, and developers to swoop in and acquire valuable land from those who have been displaced or lost their homes. Michelle Melendez, a long-time resident and activist in Maui, has been at the forefront of this conversation, highlighting what she refers to as “The Great Maui Land Grab.” In a recent interview, Melendez spoke passionately about the threat that outside interests pose to local communities and the efforts to preserve the island's cultural heritage and protect residents' rights.

Melendez explained that the wildfires, which left large swathes of land in Lahaina devastated, created a vacuum that opportunistic entities are eager to fill. “This isn’t the first time we’ve seen this happen,” she said. “Disasters often lead to land grabs. Wealthy developers come in, offering what seem like generous amounts of money to residents who’ve lost everything. But it’s a fraction of what the land will be worth once they’ve built resorts or luxury homes.”

She went on to describe how many locals are emotionally and financially vulnerable after the fires, which makes them more likely to accept offers that may seem like a lifeline in the short term but could permanently displace them from their ancestral lands. “Maui’s people are facing not just the loss of homes but the loss of their identity. The land is tied to our culture and history. When we lose the land, we lose our heritage,” Melendez explained.

In the interview, Melendez also discussed the lack of affordable housing in Maui, a problem that existed long before the wildfires. With the destruction caused by the fires, she fears the situation will only worsen. “Developers are not coming in to build affordable housing for locals; they are building vacation rentals and homes for the ultra-wealthy,” she said. This, according to Melendez, is part of a broader issue: a system that favors the interests of big money over the rights of local residents.

Melendez called on the local government and community leaders to take decisive action, pushing for policies that would protect residents from predatory offers and ensure that any rebuilding efforts prioritize the needs of the local population. “We need legislation in place that protects our people and prevents these land grabs,” she urged.

In conclusion, Melendez sheds light on a crucial issue facing Maui in the wake of the fires, emphasizing the need for vigilance and proactive measures to preserve the island’s culture, land, and people from exploitation.


https://rumble.com/v6wbnww-update-on-the-lahaina-dew-fire-survivors-that-are-being-slowly-killed-and-d.html


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