View Full Version : Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map
Eric J (Viking)
11th August 2023, 05:26
Not sure this has been reported here…. Dew ? Why ?
Fueled by strong winds from Hurricane Dora, wildfires left widespread damage across the Hawaiian island of Maui. Local authorities report at least 36 people have died, and hundreds of buildings have been destroyed.
"As the firefighting efforts continue, 36 total fatalities have been discovered today amid the active Lahaina fire," a Maui county statement read.
Three wildfires started earlier this week and rapidly spread on Wednesday. Preliminary estimates show nearly 300 structures have been damaged or destroyed, and more than 1,000 acres of Maui's Upcountry have been charred. Power is out for thousands across the west of Maui.
https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/wiped-map-hawaii-wildfires-level-entire-town-claiming-36-lives
Viking
mountain_jim
11th August 2023, 13:48
Makes me very sad to see the videos and the before and afters - as we visited that town on our honeymoon and that famous banyan tree and park was a memorable, magical place, now all ashes and death it appears.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/mauis-famous-banyan-tree-scorched-in-fire-will-it-survive/ar-AA1f4gmz
San Francisco Chronicle
Maui’s famous banyan tree scorched in fire. Will it survive?
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1f6FIi.img?w=800&h=415&q=60&m=2&f=jpg
Maui’s famous banyan tree scorched in fire. Will it survive?
The famed 150-year-old banyan tree in Lahaina, Hawaii, stands scorched at the center of wildfire wreckage Thursday, Aug. 10, 2023
Wildfires spurred by winds from Hurricane Dora ripped through Hawaii’s Big Island and Maui on Wednesday and devastated the town of Lahaina, while also threatening the town’s historic banyan tree, which has stood for 150 years.
Hawaii Sen. Brian Schatz on Thursday posted a video (https://www.sfchronicle.com/climate/article/hawaii-senator-maui-lahaina-videos-18290602.php)on social media taken from the base of the massive tree, showing its scorched and ash-covered roots and branches. He noted that it was “smoldering at the base, but still standing.”
Others on social media wondered whether the iconic tree would survive the blaze and elaborated about its historical significance in Hawaii. “Only time will tell if it survives the injuries sustained in the fires, but it feels like a small beacon of hope in this disaster,” one person wrote on social media (https://twitter.com/PandaToybox/status/1689400410891759616).
What is the Lahaina banyan tree?
Known as the oldest living banyan tree in Maui (https://www.mauicounty.gov/facilities/Facility/Details/125), Lahaina’s banyan is located near the town’s historic courthouse building, adjacent to Lahaina Harbor. The tree was imported from India and planted in front of the courthouse in 1873 to honor the 50th anniversary of the first protestant mission in Lahaina, according to the Lahaina Restoration Foundation. At the time it was planted, it was only 8 feet tall but now is the largest banyan tree in the U.S., according to the Hawaii Ocean Project.
The area around the tree is known as Lahaina Banyan Court Park and is a host to activities throughout the year.
What happened to the tree?
Videos posted on social media and aerial photos taken Wednesday and Thursday showed the banyan tree was scorched by the fire that ripped through the city. However, the tree is still standing. It remains unknown whether the tree will survive the fire damage.
An update posted on Maui Information Guide Thursday said that the tree was charred but added “it’s said that if the roots are healthy, it will likely grow back, but it looks burned.”
James B. Friday, a forester with the University of Hawaii, told the New York Times on Thursday that “It certainly doesn’t look like that tree is going to recover” after he reviewed photos and videos of the damage. He said that the banyan would have been protected by a layer of bark too thin to withstand the fires.
What are the tree’s signature features?
The tree stands over 60 feet tall and features 46 major trunks in addition to the original trunk, and shades nearly two-thirds of an acre, according to the Lahaina Restoration Foundation. The tree is a member of the fig tree family and its aerial roots drape towards the ground, which allow the tree to grow vertically and horizontally, according to LahainaTown.com. It is home to hundreds of mynah birds, which were introduced to Hawaii in 1865 to control army worms.
Eric J (Viking)
11th August 2023, 14:41
Summary
The number of people killed in the Hawaii wildfires has risen to 55, and hundreds more are said to be missing on the island of Maui
Governor Josh Green has called the fires "catastrophic" and the largest in the state's history
Survivors have spoken of daring escapes, with one man telling the BBC the historic town of Lahaina is "absolutely gone"
Firefighters continue to battle the flames, officials say, and nearly 15,000 tourists took flights away from Maui on Thursday
Fires began on the island on Tuesday, fuelled by winds from a hurricane, later prompting a "major disaster" declaration from President Joe Biden
Further reading
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66461158
Also information about whether it was DEW …🤷♂️
Eccentric summary here…
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=180028
Viking
arwen
11th August 2023, 15:02
Reminds me of Paradise, California in 2018 (https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Americas-Deadliest-Wildfire-100-Years-48-Dead-Paradise-California).
https://s.w-x.co/wu/paradise-cars.jpg
Denise/Dizi
11th August 2023, 15:20
This is just heartbreaking for me and my family..
When I was 19, I moved to Maui... I moved there with my now husband, and it was the first and only time I have ever lived outside of California. I lived in Lahaina, in Puamana, just to the right of the end of Front Street, (to the right of the Banyan tree... from the aerial photos) I worked at Long's Drugs at the cannery, to the left (from the air) of Front Street... And my now husband, worked at MGM (Maui Gold Manufacturing... ) Just behind the antique train...
All are now wiped off the face of the Earth...
I grew so much during that time, and when my husband left Maui, I stayed, and the locals took me under their wings as their own little fledgling "Haole' Girl... " I was barely 20 then, and I was 2,500 miles away from home, and thought I was alone, until they "Adopted me"...
They made sure I ate properly, often times bringing me fresh fish, when their husbands would go out fishing, and invited me, like family, into their homes... They didn't respect tourists much, but they didn't consider me a tourist, I was family.. And many have experienced this once actually living there.
I cannot even fathom what they are going through at the moment... I knew people from all over the island, met their families, saw their homes and was always welcomed... To know they are all suffering, is heartbreaking... It's a helpless feeling not being able to reach out to any of them due to a lack of power and services... Many lost not only their homes, but their ability to make a living... And some their lives as well... I couldn't bring myself to even watch the news coverage until yesterday.
The poster of Puamana, framed on my wall in the bathroom, looks like a cartoon now. The lasting remnant of what once was, my entire past washed away, and now just memories... I am still in shock and I wasn't even there. I was not just there for a week or ten days. I lived with these people, and my heart breaks for each and every one of them...
I don't even know what to say... Sorry just doesn't seem like "Enough"... I wish I had the resources to help them all... I hope this thread stays active... I want to know how they set up methods of helping... so I can contribute in some way as the entire island helped me when I was so very young... And it touched my heart...
NancyV
11th August 2023, 15:51
I also loved Maui and had many trips there starting around 1965, so I know how you feel about it. Late at night while camping on a beach near Lahaina was where I saw my first UFO's. There were 3 or 4 of them and we watched them come down from the mountains and fly around us for at least 15 minutes (which is a long time for a sighting). Surfing was also fantastic on Maui. I lived on the Big Island for 3 years but Maui was probably my favorite island. I do think there must be a reason for this to have happened as even the most horrible situations often turn out to be the most valuable lessons. I tend to see awful things from both perspectives... my mind knows it is terrible and painful while my soul knows it is perfect.
thepainterdoug
11th August 2023, 17:45
I know Professor Happer ,Dean of curriculim from Princeton University who belongs to the co2colition. this is a recent publication regarding the Maui disaster.
https://co2coalition.org/2023/08/11/guidance-for-lahainas-resurrection-from-its-devastating-wildfire/
Artemesia
11th August 2023, 18:16
Summary
The number of people killed in the Hawaii wildfires has risen to 55,
Further reading
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66461158
Also information about whether it was DEW …🤷♂️
Eccentric summary here…
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=180028
Viking
Just wanted to note that the mainstream news is reporting ‘55 dead’ on some reports I saw they used the number 53. The number of people actually deceased isnt what they are reporting… they are reporting a coded number. 55 and 53 are the reversal codes denoting or claiming this as a blood sacrifice by the cabal.
https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Reversal_55_Grid
If you ever go through reports of the recent hurricaines, fires, floods etc, pay attention to how many times the number 55 or 53 is used. This is a hallmark number used by the cabal to tag the event as ritual or denote it as frequency fence metatronic reversal spiral / siphon architecture. Or look at how ‘payments made’ in things like restitution or fines or monies bequeathed to things like war or any controller pilllar of society structure/event/agenda will be done in $55 or $53 (billion or million or thousand, doesnt matter its the coding symbology is significant) encoded sets.
When you see this as an officially reported number, its the cabal talking making a ritual claim to the suffering and destruction.
See it for what it is and it ceases to have power.
Journeyman
11th August 2023, 20:41
Summary
The number of people killed in the Hawaii wildfires has risen to 55,
Further reading
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66461158
Also information about whether it was DEW …🤷♂️
Eccentric summary here…
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=180028
Viking
Just wanted to note that the mainstream news is reporting ‘55 dead’ on some reports I saw they used the number 53. The number of people actually deceased isnt what they are reporting… they are reporting a coded number. 55 and 53 are the reversal codes denoting or claiming this as a blood sacrifice by the cabal.
https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Reversal_55_Grid
If you ever go through reports of the recent hurricaines, fires, floods etc, pay attention to how many times the number 55 or 53 is used. This is a hallmark number used by the cabal to tag the event as ritual or denote it as frequency fence metatronic reversal spiral / siphon architecture. Or look at how ‘payments made’ in things like restitution or fines or monies bequeathed to things like war or any controller pilllar of society structure/event/agenda will be done in $55 or $53 (billion or million or thousand, doesnt matter its the coding symbology is significant) encoded sets.
When you see this as an officially reported number, its the cabal talking making a ritual claim to the suffering and destruction.
See it for what it is and it ceases to have power.
More coding:
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and even more:
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Artemesia
11th August 2023, 22:21
The thing with the coding and the symbols used and the ‘archontic deception strategy’ is… these beings have no capacity to link in to creative source, they lack that which is why they are stuck in consumptive modeling and siphoning energy off living systems. As such, they only have the same few dance moves. Once you start to be able to see the codes and recognize the strategies as they roll them out, reality assessment shifts and its possible to make better choices given an accurate perception of the events. Its why they have done EVERYTHING to suppress awakening and target anyone who is a) awakening and b) making headway on waking up those around them with even the smallest of seed planting gestures. Once you see it and know the play strategy, it changes their camoflage and they are fully seen for what they are!
This fire is not natural, clearly. It targeted a major economic center on a sacred place and killed people and a sacred tree. When i see pictures I instantly recall the scenes in the Star Wars Rogue One film when they ‘test’ the Death Star technology on the sacred Jedi city of Jedda… this is a mirror of that.
Of course the reason why Star wars was so popular is because it is a mirror of the real galactic war timelines many of us intuitively remember or recall via our ancestral links via our living DNA light codes. I often see movies they make and its clear to me that if they are trying to obscure a lie, such as tech that already exists even though we are still so bass ackwards in so many ways with techniques we still have to rely on here, or even past events that occurred, its like they know they cant suppress this in the collective consciousness entirely, because its there - its all holographic to the whole. So they make a ‘movie’ about it, and then if awakened people proceed to discuss past timeline events or even current realities, and they resemble a movie script or a plot line of some controlled media propaganda piece, well then the truth tellers get dismissed as simply repeating ‘a script’ from a controlled source, rather than actual information. Easy camoflage. So… we just see that holographic hijack for what it is and proceed with a more accurate reality assessment and intuitive guidance.
The media is clearly totally broken. What is frustrating is that it WILL NOT help give info to keep one safe in the event od a coordinated assault attack like the Lahaina fire clearly was. So, situational awareness and internal guidance systems and beleiving one’s own intuition (however bizarre it sometimes seems!!) is mission critical. Its pretty clear the ‘death star’ tech is online and they are making examples of it known. See it for what it is, and proceed accordingly with divine guidance.
Franny
12th August 2023, 01:17
This is so very sad and devastating for everyone. I can only imagine what these poor people are going through.
I live on the Big Island, just below Maui Island. On Wednesday when the fires started they say that the hurricane was causing heavy winds, but not so much. It had suddenly turned way to the south and we experienced only the edges of the winds. I had been concerned about the 40 - 80 mph winds predicted. However, it was pleasantly breezy, not the 50 mph plus winds they spoke about.
The news readers reported that due to the heavy winds responders were unable to do much. However, there were helicopters flying overhead and others air lifting injured people to Honolulu. Trees not close to the fire were not moving as they would in a heavy wind.
In April and May I started seeing a lot of adverts and warnings about hurricane season approaching, noticeably more than I have seen before. My thought was they may be planning on a heavier hurricane season than usual.
Lahaina before and after. It was a lovely little historic town with deep roots in Hawaiian culture and history.
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51509
Below are a few videos I found helpful. This Youtuber, whom you may recognize, was researching during CV, Cali fires and more. Asks a lot of questions and is a fairly astute observer. She has one of two other videos on this.
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Not usually a fan of Michael Jaco but a friend sent it and it has some relevant information, especially on DEW weapons. The Maui fires look like this. Some observers mentioned that fires started in several places at the same time.
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scotslad
12th August 2023, 03:29
Incredible video shows Lahaina church miraculously untouched by devastating Maui wildfires - while famous banyan tree that spans two acres IS still standing. *Makes me think of a directed energy weapon.)
The Maria Lanakila Catholic Church in downtown Lahaina is seen still standing amidst the rubble
The church, which has stood since 1846, maintained its stain glass and tower structure even as the ground around it smolders
Lahaina's 150-year-old banyan tree also appears to have survived the fires albeit severely scorched from the flames
More HERE:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12397719/Incredible-video-shows-Lahaina-church-miraculously-untouched-devastating-Maui-wildfires-famous-banyan-tree-spans-two-acres-standing.html
Franny
12th August 2023, 04:21
Interesting take. Much the same as KA Fitts regarding the 2020 riots.
https://twitter.com/CBKNEWS121/status/1690107289418485761?s=20
And this. It will be interesting to see if and how how this develops:
https://twitter.com/CBKNEWS121/status/1690134428540960768?s=20
This man shares his experience escaping the fire:
https://twitter.com/WillingWitness/status/1690058515002662912?s=20
Denise/Dizi
12th August 2023, 05:25
I am beyond shocked at the 2 videos the gal created above, thank you for sharing them Franny... Perhaps this is too emotional an issue for me to comment on, but I will anyway... I do apologize ahead of time if I upset anyone...
It's my opinion, that the gal in the 2 videos above has no clue what she is talking about, and couldn't even identify Lahaina on a map... Sad really, yet I am sure she is "raking in the bucks for the clicks", while people try to learn if their friends and families survived...
Her "How Sad" when she watched the lady drive past the person in the smoke filled streets, probably left to die, while she laughed, was repulsive in my opinion...
Some bullet points about Lahaina.. For those who want to really know about the island... And the town specifically...
Many structures were built a long time ago, and were only shells with wooden siding on the outside, and that is why they went up like matchsticks. This was a tropical island... MOST of the hotels are built like the "mainland", as guests would expect that, but these were just very thin boxes... Many attached to eachother as on Front street. The hotels are further up on the coast, and from what I can tell, were not affected...
Boats have a lot of fuel on them, and can be very flammable... ESPECIALLY wooden ones... And more than likely they caught fire before they left the harbor...
There were tons of dive shops with large explosive tanks there
There were many gas stations in that area that could/would explode
Most people barbecued daily on that island... With propane tanks on their barbecues
Tires burst under excessive heat and they sound like an explosion.
Winds CAN start fires...
Winds can shift where it pushes a fire and it can miss some things...
The emergency services were busy rescuing people, and there was no stopping this fire. AND they were the furthest away from Kahului... the hospital, and airport... Where the majority of the services are. More than likely the Lahaina fire Dept. burned down.
as far as fires "Missing things"...
People were driving through the fires to get out, more than likely that is why you saw random cars abandoned and on fire.
I am all for a good conspiracy... But this to me is tasteless.. They haven't even begun to finish the body count, and she is talking as if this happened 10 years ago. The fires are still burning.
The entire island gets sudden rain storms, mostly up country and through the Pali, but the winds coming into Lahaina on a good day would blow a vehicle out of their lane if the driver were not paying attention. And many times, it almost blew us off of our motorcycle as once up to speed, the wheels became a light barrier, and the wind would push them out from underneath us... The winds may not show in the videos but they come and go, like the rains, and they can be massive.
This woman posts an image of a roof structure that shows just how thinly built many of these buildings were... Yet goes on to imply they should have something left standing. And she suggests she is familiar with fires as she lives in California. I too live in California. born and raised, and have spent my entire life here, outside of my time living on Maui... And the two places, and their fire conditions couldn't be any more different. From the types of trees, to the winds and terrain. Living on Maui was like living on a different planet in that regard.
And I live in fire territory, the foothills, in Nevada City...... so we get evacuated ALOT. What we see here is loose pine needles blowing across the streets, decidious tree leaves... Bark flying in the wind storms the fires create, THAT is what gets flying through the air... Typically green grass pastures do not burn, only the dried out grass...
Those aren't the kind of trees Maui had, And Lahaina specifically... they had palms... Beautiful palms.. And of course the Banyan...
I just wish people would do more research before they present something like these videos, and at the very least, be able to point to the location on a map, before citing Physics... I couldn't even finish the video...
Granted, it could have been arson, but to jump straight to a DEW, is a BIG JUMP... And would require a lot more than pointing to the wrong location on a map, and yelling "CABAL"....
If they do find the starting of the fires suspicious, I would worry more about who else has DEWS than just the USA, and other large countries... But it's a bit too soon, in my opinion to point to some things and assert it was a DEW... Mother Nature is a tough opponent...
Andre
12th August 2023, 06:18
These DEWs are now being used to accelerate the cabal's "climate emergency" agenda and what better way to do that than to target high profile destinations like Lahaina.
Fortunately, there are enough internet sleuths around now to dig into this further in the coming days so it will be interesting to see what unfolds.
These DEWs have a laser like accuracy when fired from drones so they do tend to leave a unique signature and their trail is readily identifiable. The firemen in Paradise, California a few years ago saw it (video example below).
As someone living in Australia who is aware of the climate alarmist agenda and what the cabal is capable of, I'm very much concerned that they are preparing our East Coast for something similar because our winter is seeing zero rain fall and their use of geoengineering to steer rain in any direction they wish could mean we are in for an exceptionally dry summer this xmas (southern hemisphere) and massive DEW activity.
It's all very tragic and difficult to swallow the utter evil at work here.
https://rumble.com/vc1xh7-paradise-destroyed-california-firemen-find-signatures-of-directed-energy-we.html
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Harmony
12th August 2023, 07:25
I certainly couldn't say for sure at this point if these fires on Maui were started by DEW. I also live in Australia and have been in one of these fires with so many suspicious things that happened that was so different than reported on the MSM and all the aftermath that followed. There is no way to experess the devastation and evil involved, one never get over it. Knowing the furture agenda for different areas "planned" for whomever is left leaves me very suspicious now. Of course there are natural fires and now there are many unnatural fires too. I pray for all these people and the sadness that will follow that will never go away. :heart:
Tracie (Bodhicee)
12th August 2023, 07:32
I am beyond shocked at the 2 videos the gal created above, thank you for sharing them Franny... Perhaps this is too emotional an issue for me to comment on, but I will anyway... I do apologize ahead of time if I upset anyone...
It's my opinion, that the gal in the 2 videos above has no clue what she is talking about, and couldn't even identify Lahaina on a map... Sad really, yet I am sure she is "raking in the bucks for the clicks", while people try to learn if their friends and families survived...
Her "How Sad" when she watched the lady drive past the person in the smoke filled streets, probably left to die, while she laughed, was repulsive in my opinion...
Some bullet points about Lahaina.. For those who want to really know about the island... And the town specifically...
Many structures were built a long time ago, and were only shells with wooden siding on the outside, and that is why they went up like matchsticks. This was a tropical island... MOST of the hotels are built like the "mainland", as guests would expect that, but these were just very thin boxes... Many attached to eachother as on Front street. The hotels are further up on the coast, and from what I can tell, were not affected...
Boats have a lot of fuel on them, and can be very flammable... ESPECIALLY wooden ones... And more than likely they caught fire before they left the harbor...
There were tons of dive shops with large explosive tanks there
There were many gas stations in that area that could/would explode
Most people barbecued daily on that island... With propane tanks on their barbecues
Tires burst under excessive heat and they sound like an explosion.
Winds CAN start fires...
Winds can shift where it pushes a fire and it can miss some things...
The emergency services were busy rescuing people, and there was no stopping this fire. AND they were the furthest away from Kahului... the hospital, and airport... Where the majority of the services are. More than likely the Lahaina fire Dept. burned down.
as far as fires "Missing things"...
People were driving through the fires to get out, more than likely that is why you saw random cars abandoned and on fire.
I am all for a good conspiracy... But this to me is tasteless.. They haven't even begun to finish the body count, and she is talking as if this happened 10 years ago. The fires are still burning.
The entire island gets sudden rain storms, mostly up country and through the Pali, but the winds coming into Lahaina on a good day would blow a vehicle out of their lane if the driver were not paying attention. And many times, it almost blew us off of our motorcycle as once up to speed, the wheels became a light barrier, and the wind would push them out from underneath us... The winds may not show in the videos but they come and go, like the rains, and they can be massive.
This woman posts an image of a roof structure that shows just how thinly built many of these buildings were... Yet goes on to imply they should have something left standing. And she suggests she is familiar with fires as she lives in California. I too live in California. born and raised, and have spent my entire life here, outside of my time living on Maui... And the two places, and their fire conditions couldn't be any more different. From the types of trees, to the winds and terrain. Living on Maui was like living on a different planet in that regard.
And I live in fire territory, the foothills, in Nevada City...... so we get evacuated ALOT. What we see here is loose pine needles blowing across the streets, decidious tree leaves... Bark flying in the wind storms the fires create, THAT is what gets flying through the air... Typically green grass pastures do not burn, only the dried out grass...
Those aren't the kind of trees Maui had, And Lahaina specifically... they had palms... Beautiful palms.. And of course the Banyan...
I just wish people would do more research before they present something like these videos, and at the very least, be able to point to the location on a map, before citing Physics... I couldn't even finish the video...
Granted, it could have been arson, but to jump straight to a DEW, is a BIG JUMP... And would require a lot more than pointing to the wrong location on a map, and yelling "CABAL"....
If they do find the starting of the fires suspicious, I would worry more about who else has DEWS than just the USA, and other large countries... But it's a bit too soon, in my opinion to point to some things and assert it was a DEW... Mother Nature is a tough opponent...
Much appreciated Denise, thanks. Common Sense is a rare thing these days in media attention grabbing and heightened suspicion. My heart goes out to you, Nancy and everyone closely associated with the devastated regions. :bearhug:
I've never been to Hawaii myself but understood that, in a special group of islands, Maui is particularly special, for whatever reason.
We've gone through terrible bushfires here in Australia; I understand the catastrophe and trauma of them. But to have a whole town wiped out like that, that's a whole new level of catastrophe. Perhaps this will trigger the release of state-of-the-art tech, for housing and infrastructure rebuild. I understand Christchurch in New Zealand was able to use their most recent earthquake disaster to create a whole new approach to rebuilding their CBD, for example.
In any case it's too soon yet to think further ahead but that might be one silver lining to this terrible occurrence. Sending much love to Hawaii.:heart2:
Ratszinger
12th August 2023, 08:27
I think it should soon be obvious who did it. Just wait for the rich "Rescue Teams" that show up out of the blue offering to "Help" by buying out everyone devastated and of course for pennies on the dollar and there ladies and gentleman will be the ones likely behind it all. They should at least be the number one suspects!
mountain_jim
12th August 2023, 12:15
Not to say DEW not involved, but watch out for disinfo spreaders - like Stew Peters -who appears to have posted this without comment in a disinfo example..
(Maybe he just reacts without research but I have seen much crap from him)
https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/1690076549679370240?s=20
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https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/1690066133955809280?s=20
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Jordan Sather
@Jordan_Sather_
There's a couple images floating around being faked as recent Directed Energy Weapon strikes in Hawaii - they're actually years old images that aren't of DEWs
The image on the left is a long exposure shot from a SpaceX launch in May 2018
The image in the tweet on the right is a meteor over Michigan in Jan 2018
P.S. - most DEWs are invisible to the naked eye. If the Deep State wanted to hit something with a DEW, you wouldn't see the energy beam
mountain_jim
12th August 2023, 13:55
I read the reports that some of these efforts are intended to buy up control of this property cheap - time will tell....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3P5YRYWQAAsDPT?format=webp&name=900x900
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1690132897100079104?s=20
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https://www.staradvertiser.com/2023/08/11/breaking-news/jeff-bezos-lauren-sanchez-will-donate-100m-to-maui-fund/
Amazon.com Inc. founder Jeff Bezos and fiancee Lauren Sanchez said they will give $100 million toward restoration efforts on Maui after deadly wildfires devastated the island.
Sanchez said in an Instagram post they are “heartbroken” by the recent events in Maui and are creating a fund to “help Maui get back on its feet now and over the coming years.” Bezos, who has a net worth of $163 billion according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, owns an estate on La Perouse Bay at the southern tip of the island.
“The immediate needs are important, and so is the longer term rebuilding that will have to happen — even after much of the attention has subsided,” said Sanchez, a helicopter pilot and founder of Black Ops Aviation.
Meanwhile, Hawaii-born and raised entrepreneur and philanthropist Steve Case said he would contribute $1 million to support communities affected by the wildfires.
His donation is being made by the Grove Farm Foundation, the philanthropic arm of Case’s Kaua’i-based Grove Farm. In addition, Maui Land & Pineapple, where Case is the majority investor, has announced a series of steps, to provide on-island support, as well as a long-term commitment to assist in Maui’s rebuilding efforts.
“The destruction and loss on Maui is devastating to watch, and the impact on communities such as Lahaina is tragic,” said Case. “This iconic, historic town represents the best of the culture, natural beauty and warm Aloha spirit that has come to define Hawaii. My heart and prayers go out to all of those impacted across Maui by these horrific events.”
The $1 million donation will be directed to the Hawaii Community Foundation, which launched a Maui Strong effort to mobilize support for the relief and rebuilding efforts; World Central Kitchen, which is already on the ground on Maui providing food to frontline workers and people who have lost their homes; and the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army, both of which are working around the clock to provide shelter, food, and emotional support.
The rapidly spreading fires in the historic town of Lahaina on Maui have killed at least 59 people, a number that officials say is expected to rise as roughly 1,000 more remain unaccounted for and crews continue to search through the damage. Accuweather Inc. said its early estimates of the economic toll range between $8 billion and $10 billion.
President Joe Biden declared a major disaster on the island, which allows federal funds to be used to assist recovery efforts. The Federal Emergency Management Agency is looking at short-term housing for Lahaina, according to Anne Bink, associate administrator of response and recovery, and the agency’s search effort remains underway.
norman
12th August 2023, 14:09
https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel/43729
LauraAbolichannel/43729
Eric J (Viking)
12th August 2023, 15:13
From an article titled: “Maui, A Hollywood Favorite Hawaiian Getaway, Faces Tragic Fire: A Report From The Heart Of Paradise”
“It is all kind of strange, as Wailea is untouched and still in vacation mode, while just across the ocean, you could see massive smoke clouds and orange skies. The mood went from idyllic to horrifying. To put it in movie terms, as someone said to me earlier today, “It is like Barbie suddenly turned into Oppenheimer.” West Maui still has no cell service, internet, or power in most areas of it. Last night, the Four Seasons lobby, usually pretty chill, was practically overrun by tourists and some locals fleeing the fire in search of rooms. The hotel is now completely full.“Maui Devastated by Wildfires. Hollywood Helps Out – Deadline
So what’s going on in Maui?
Further reading
https://diannemarshallreport.com/dew-you-see-it-fire-fire/?fbclid=IwAR35s9Aw6ufbVkXecSkKSGljjY4NlPchW-GM517XkWPoFpXoY1RdODN43rI
Viking
Denise/Dizi
12th August 2023, 15:28
I just want to add for the record, so people can make their own decisions on the matter with actual facts... (Rather than shocking statements not checked?) When I lived in Lahaina, I was not in a place to buy property. I was young, and rented... But I do remember hearing at that time... (The late 80's and early 90's)... That property on the islands was never "owned" by anyone and remained the property of the state... (If I remember properly) I believe they call this a "Leasehold"...
From what I was told back then, and things may have changed, you could essentially buy a home there, but the land was leased in some way, for extended periods of time. A family could occupy a piece of land for generations, but they do not "Own it"... They hold a lease to the land below the home. I remember this because I remember thinking, I would never buy a home or build a home, on land I didn't own!
So I would also question whether or not this is a "Land grab" by those with "deep pockets...", again, people are not researching the things they are claiming are the main reasons for why anyone would deliberately destroy an area... So I believe people should set the record straight.
If someone would check that and see if it is still the case, it may really add value to the statements that this was a land grab situation, and debunk it immediately.
Stepping back and trying to sort this out myself, because I know the place, has really shocked me, when watching videos others are producing... And I truly feel for those still living there... And hope they never see these videos... It would be like adding insult to injury for profit...
If others know about the islands, and would like to share what they know as well... I think it would help to get this conversation to a place where actual facts are being shared, and the situation can be evaluated from a perspective of avoiding something like this in the future, rather than finger pointing to "Bad Actors"...
I feel like we have become a population of people who all want someone to blame for everything... Sometimes tragic things happen, and it is the fault of just a series of overlooked issues, all coming together in a horrible tragic event. Perhaps if we stop finger pointing and begin to place that energy into prevention ideas, this wouldn't happen... I just do not want to see these individuals treated as if they were victimized again... And the alt media is surely doing this right now.. Using their tragic situation for their profit.
Sorry if I keep taking the thread off topic, but I feel it is important people do know some facts about the area... So they can form well founded opinions of what they are seeing...
Ratszinger
12th August 2023, 18:40
I just want to add for the record, so people can make their own decisions on the matter with actual facts... (Rather than shocking statements not checked?) When I lived in Lahaina, I was not in a place to buy property. I was young, and rented... But I do remember hearing at that time... (The late 80's and early 90's)... That property on the islands was never "owned" by anyone and remained the property of the state... (If I remember properly) I believe they call this a "Leasehold"...
From what I was told back then, and things may have changed, you could essentially buy a home there, but the land was leased in some way, for extended periods of time. A family could occupy a piece of land for generations, but they do not "Own it"... They hold a lease to the land below the home. I remember this because I remember thinking, I would never buy a home or build a home, on land I didn't own!
So I would also question whether or not this is a "Land grab" by those with "deep pockets...", again, people are not researching the things they are claiming are the main reasons for why anyone would deliberately destroy an area... So I believe people should set the record straight.
If someone would check that and see if it is still the case, it may really add value to the statements that this was a land grab situation, and debunk it immediately.
Stepping back and trying to sort this out myself, because I know the place, has really shocked me, when watching videos others are producing... And I truly feel for those still living there... And hope they never see these videos... It would be like adding insult to injury for profit...
If others know about the islands, and would like to share what they know as well... I think it would help to get this conversation to a place where actual facts are being shared, and the situation can be evaluated from a perspective of avoiding something like this in the future, rather than finger pointing to "Bad Actors"...
I feel like we have become a population of people who all want someone to blame for everything... Sometimes tragic things happen, and it is the fault of just a series of overlooked issues, all coming together in a horrible tragic event. Perhaps if we stop finger pointing and begin to place that energy into prevention ideas, this wouldn't happen... I just do not want to see these individuals treated as if they were victimized again... And the alt media is surely doing this right now.. Using their tragic situation for their profit.
Sorry if I keep taking the thread off topic, but I feel it is important people do know some facts about the area... So they can form well founded opinions of what they are seeing...
If the land is prime beach front property the elite won't care about the Native law which is probably just like it is here in Oklahoma for the Cherokee and Osage and Choctaw tribes and more. On the reservation or in all of Osage county which is all Osage res you can buy a house and own it and anything on the land down to 18" deep. Many non Indian people of all races do this for less taxes in that county. For example my 30 acres with a 5.5 acre 30 foot deep stocked pond and my cabin and out building all ran me per year $67. $7 and some change was the 25 acres of woodland forest of blackjack oak trees. The other $60 was for the two buildings and my 5 acre separate deeded property. After that 18" depth anything found, mineral or otherwise well, it belongs to the tribe. The home owner controls access for any easements to get to that to profit off it tho so the land, even if it does belong to Hawaiians after 18" or less can't be entered unless the owner of the home gives an easement or permission in some formal way, usually for a contracted period of lease or agreement. This is done on land out here for oil wells all the time. The owner of the property gets some $ for allowing the oil pump guys access to the tribe's oil well. So in conclusion, I think the elite are more concerned with how much money the future condos and perhaps things we don't even suspect yet like casinos will earn them.
Mark (Star Mariner)
12th August 2023, 20:08
I feel like we have become a population of people who all want someone to blame for everything... Sometimes tragic things happen, and it is the fault of just a series of overlooked issues, all coming together in a horrible tragic event.
I concur with your take, Denise. As soon as one of these terrible events occurs it really isn't very long before DEWs come up, or HAARP. I've said it for a long time. Jumping at once to the conclusion of a dastardly conspiracy really isn't very smart, or useful. Conspiracy theories obviously exist, and I well know it. They exist because they're strongly backed up by clues, by dot-connectors, and by witnesses -- by evidence.
It's possible a dastardly conspiracy is behind this, but short of good evidence I don't think it's wise to put money on it. There's no evidence I'm aware of that categorically demonstrates DEWs are being used to trigger wildfires in the first place, either as a weapon of terror or a tool of depopulation. They might be. They might be. But there's nothing concrete to say it's the case.
This is obviously a devastating event. Exactly what's responsible for causing it will take some time to sort out. My two cents (so stated as it's worth no more than that, being just an opinion) is the most likely culprit is a tragic convergence of: laxity, incompetence, bad land management, bad planning, and adverse weather conditions. And I think also a very good chance of arson.
You don't need a plasma beam fired from space for this. A numbnut with a box of matches will do it.
Inversion
12th August 2023, 20:48
So I would also question whether or not this is a "Land grab" by those with "deep pockets...", again, people are not researching the things they are claiming are the main reasons for why anyone would deliberately destroy an area... So I believe people should set the record straight.
There could be a mega-resort already planned for that area. This must be a new kind Eminent domain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain) and an accepted technique to remove squatters. I would lean towards a space based microwave weapon system as the cause. It's akin to what may have been used to assist in the demolition of the Twin Towers. The Jason (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason-1) satellite was rumored to be directly above the epicenter of the 2004 tsunami (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami) which at least denotes foreknowledge. Not to get too off topic, but it must be a common theme for inhabited worlds to be subjugated from space by former occupants.
Satori
12th August 2023, 22:52
I just want to add for the record, so people can make their own decisions on the matter with actual facts... (Rather than shocking statements not checked?) When I lived in Lahaina, I was not in a place to buy property. I was young, and rented... But I do remember hearing at that time... (The late 80's and early 90's)... That property on the islands was never "owned" by anyone and remained the property of the state... (If I remember properly) I believe they call this a "Leasehold"...
From what I was told back then, and things may have changed, you could essentially buy a home there, but the land was leased in some way, for extended periods of time. A family could occupy a piece of land for generations, but they do not "Own it"... They hold a lease to the land below the home. I remember this because I remember thinking, I would never buy a home or build a home, on land I didn't own!
So I would also question whether or not this is a "Land grab" by those with "deep pockets...", again, people are not researching the things they are claiming are the main reasons for why anyone would deliberately destroy an area... So I believe people should set the record straight.
If someone would check that and see if it is still the case, it may really add value to the statements that this was a land grab situation, and debunk it immediately.
Stepping back and trying to sort this out myself, because I know the place, has really shocked me, when watching videos others are producing... And I truly feel for those still living there... And hope they never see these videos... It would be like adding insult to injury for profit...
If others know about the islands, and would like to share what they know as well... I think it would help to get this conversation to a place where actual facts are being shared, and the situation can be evaluated from a perspective of avoiding something like this in the future, rather than finger pointing to "Bad Actors"...
I feel like we have become a population of people who all want someone to blame for everything... Sometimes tragic things happen, and it is the fault of just a series of overlooked issues, all coming together in a horrible tragic event. Perhaps if we stop finger pointing and begin to place that energy into prevention ideas, this wouldn't happen... I just do not want to see these individuals treated as if they were victimized again... And the alt media is surely doing this right now.. Using their tragic situation for their profit.
Sorry if I keep taking the thread off topic, but I feel it is important people do know some facts about the area... So they can form well founded opinions of what they are seeing...
I do not know whether this is a “Land Grab”, nor do I know the cause(s) of the fires. I’m moved to write by Denise/Dizi’s distinction between a leasehold and ownership. An important point. And then only to say that a leasehold confers rights on the lessee, as well as duties. Similarly, the lessor, who or that which is ostensibly the owner, so called, of the estate has duties and rights. These duties and rights are negotiable instruments, to one degree or other, in commerce and are monetized.
Ownership, so called, also is subject to powerful economic/commercial private and governmental forces. Examples are taxation and advertising.
No one, other than the ultimate sovereign, whoever and whatever “they” are, holds what is known as allodial title.
Thus, Land Grabs are not deterred by leaseholds, or other types of allotments, broadly speaking, bestowed by the sovereign
Artemesia
12th August 2023, 23:14
Wanted to put a not yet mentioned idea in the flow of this conversation.
So Hawaii in general but certainly Maui is tied in with Lemuria and the holocaust histories there. If we are looking at the larger build up of timeline trigger events and activation of deep and ancient trauma memories to those causal timelines, beyond the questions already discussed of:
DEW or simultaneous arson
Wealthy figureheads in the control pillars of society staking real estate claims
Death toll discrepancies
Weather reports on multiple platforms and from eyewitnesses not being consistent
And add in other understandings many thoughtful people on this forum familiar
with the vast amount of arenas necessary to understand to grasp where the cabal is trying
To force their winning hand play…
Question open for discussion is, how does the location of Maui on the planetary
Grid vis a vis the lemurian timelines and what we are seeing the cabal attempt to
Orchestrate regarding repeats of old holocaust timelines/ww 3 a d heck,
Let’s just throw in the ‘false flag alien invasion’ uap/ufo lead in via the discussion of
Possible DEW involvement and where that would be sourcing from.
I have some ideas forming as I stir this big icky soup pot of seemingly
Tangential data points, but I know some of you used to thinking in nonlinear
Formats might have some things come to mind when staring at this broth….
Anyone?
** my apologies for terrible syntax and grammer and punctuation…. Nonlinear thinking me is not compatible with grammer. Reading Ee cummings and kerouak must’ve trained this part of my mind. Hopefully its not totally obtuse. Thx for your understanding
kfm27917
13th August 2023, 00:02
Engines in cars are melting, all glass in cars gone, but the trees around the cars aren’t touched, why? Click on " video found" in text below.
Beyond natural wildfire or ground-level arson fires, there is a third and far more likely sore for the firestorm: Directed Energy Weapons (DEW).
The “Wine Country” Fires
In 2017, I investigated the raging firestorm that burned hundreds of structures in Santa Rosa, California, in early October. The week that proceeded, the air temperatures in Santa Rosa and over the mountains in Napa Valley were normal for that time of year–low to mid-80s, but rather dry.
After weeks of research, and interviewing local residents, I published “Sunspots and Cell Towers Fueled the Northern California Firestorm,” two days before Thanksgiving. The then proto-Substack, called Medium.com, ended up canceling my post and writings in early 2018. Why? I stepped on the third rails of HAARP and 5G, and that the false claims of arson fires were a coverup to the truth.
On YouTube, an enterprising digital soldier, “JeffSnyder2,” posted a 13-min video, rehashing and going over details of my investigative article in a video found here that’s still up after four years. Who knows for how long?
[Credit: James Grundvig marked up the aerial photo.]
What I saw in 2017 and what I see today in Maui are one and the same events. Only microwave technology as in DEW–whether military lasers or HAARP–can explain how the structures not only burned down, but melted kitchen appliances, bathtubs, metal alloy wheel rims, and far more.
[Credit: James Grundvig, August 2017, in a valley one hour outside Denver, Colorado.]
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Just by chance or fate, I visited a medicinal plant in Fairplay, Colorado. On the return trip to the hotel I was staying at in Denver, I drove through a valley with three or four houses burned in a natural wildfire, along with the trees and foliage I captured in the above photo.
Compare the natural wildfire burnt trees to the images of the unharmed trees in both Santa Rosa 2017 and Lahaina 2023. That is a major tell. And I captured it in my six-year-old article.
Trees, Housing Materials, Microwave Effect
[Emphasis ours.]
“The wildfires weren’t wild at all. The houses cooked from the inside out. They often burned from the top of the roofs, incinerating the walls, floors, and appliances, and cladding down to the foundation. Yet, 90 percent of the trees on the properties remained standing with leaves on the branches—not burnt, merely dried out. It was as if a neutron bomb had detonated burning everything manmade, but leaving the greenery alone.”
And this paragraph on microwave impact.
“If you put tinfoil in a microwave oven it will spark with flames shooting about, giving off an orange halo glow. It’s not the metal that catches fire, but the aluminum oxide coating. When superheated by microwave energy the coating releases oxygen on the surface engorging the material to burn even hotter. This phenomenon is known as “field-activated combustion synthesis.” Like a Duraflame log, the self-sustaining oxygen fuels the flames as had been seen with the ceramics roof tiles and the metals used to build—materials that do not burn in a normal forest fire.”
[PDF of my 2017 article found at the bottom.]
Maui Burns from DEW Fires
Understanding the truth nature of the firestorm will be key to exposing the enemy. We know from Directed Energy Weapons experts, such as Eric Hecker (video at the end) and James Martinez, the MK-Ultra survivor–a recent guest on “Unrestricted Truths” (Episode 390), “DEW Weapons Target Humans–not only are chemtrails spraying confirmed as fact, but also DEW weapons, such as HAARP (High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program) that were suspected of causing the earthquake in Turkey at the start of this year confirmed as well.
Videos from the Lahaina, Maui, firestorm.
The fires up close. Post destruction, at least 36 people died in Maui.
It is well past time for the digital soldiers, patriots, truthers, conservatives, the free people to educate themselves and share the truths and specs on how various DEW weapons work, from handheld brainwave altering devices to the massive billion-volt antenna arrays of HAARP found in Alaska and now, thanks to the whistleblowers Eric Hecker and James Martinez, Antarctica.
Remember, the “truth will set you free.” Big Everything won’t be sharing or disseminating the truth. We are in a spiritual war.
Satori
13th August 2023, 00:03
I just want to add for the record, so people can make their own decisions on the matter with actual facts... (Rather than shocking statements not checked?) When I lived in Lahaina, I was not in a place to buy property. I was young, and rented... But I do remember hearing at that time... (The late 80's and early 90's)... That property on the islands was never "owned" by anyone and remained the property of the state... (If I remember properly) I believe they call this a "Leasehold"...
From what I was told back then, and things may have changed, you could essentially buy a home there, but the land was leased in some way, for extended periods of time. A family could occupy a piece of land for generations, but they do not "Own it"... They hold a lease to the land below the home. I remember this because I remember thinking, I would never buy a home or build a home, on land I didn't own!
So I would also question whether or not this is a "Land grab" by those with "deep pockets...", again, people are not researching the things they are claiming are the main reasons for why anyone would deliberately destroy an area... So I believe people should set the record straight.
If someone would check that and see if it is still the case, it may really add value to the statements that this was a land grab situation, and debunk it immediately.
Stepping back and trying to sort this out myself, because I know the place, has really shocked me, when watching videos others are producing... And I truly feel for those still living there... And hope they never see these videos... It would be like adding insult to injury for profit...
If others know about the islands, and would like to share what they know as well... I think it would help to get this conversation to a place where actual facts are being shared, and the situation can be evaluated from a perspective of avoiding something like this in the future, rather than finger pointing to "Bad Actors"...
I feel like we have become a population of people who all want someone to blame for everything... Sometimes tragic things happen, and it is the fault of just a series of overlooked issues, all coming together in a horrible tragic event. Perhaps if we stop finger pointing and begin to place that energy into prevention ideas, this wouldn't happen... I just do not want to see these individuals treated as if they were victimized again... And the alt media is surely doing this right now.. Using their tragic situation for their profit.
Sorry if I keep taking the thread off topic, but I feel it is important people do know some facts about the area... So they can form well founded opinions of what they are seeing...
I do not know whether this is a “Land Grab”, nor do I know the cause(s) of the fires. I’m moved to write by Denise/Dizi’s distinction between a leasehold and ownership. An important point. And then only to say that a leasehold confers rights on the lessee, as well as duties. Similarly, the lessor, who or that which is ostensibly the owner, so called, of the estate has duties and rights. These duties and rights are negotiable instruments, to one degree or other, in commerce and are monetized.
Ownership, so called, also is subject to powerful economic/commercial private and governmental forces. Examples are taxation and advertising.
No one, other than the ultimate sovereign, whoever and whatever “they” are, holds what is known as allodial title.
Thus, Land Grabs are not deterred by leaseholds, or other types of allotments, broadly speaking, bestowed by the sovereign
Just read that Bezos is “donating” 100 million US dollars to the cause in Maui.
Arcturian108
13th August 2023, 01:22
My sixth sense has kicked in regarding the burning of Lahaina, and have concluded that DEWs were used. Everything there was too precisely targeted, or not targeted. The exclusion of the historic 1800s Catholic Church, and the old famous banyan tree from being burned reminds me of how during World War II, American bombers were instructed to never bomb Kyoto, the ancient capital of Japan, with its many precious temples, and thus its citizenry never really experienced the firebombing that affected the rest of Japan.
And by the way, I was a resident of Lahaina for the summer of 1976, when I was a tour guide for Japanese visiting Maui, and showing them the sights around the island.
Denise/Dizi
13th August 2023, 02:52
I just want to thank those that are adding knowledge to the conversation now, about things such as the land use issues... Who technically owns what, etc...
I suppose it just really got under my skin when the one lady began making statements in her video that were completely off the mark... And the reason for that frustration, is that if indeed there were DEWS being used, that is the type of person whose material would be used to make the idea laughable. As the entire issue is a serious one... Especially for them right now... So a more balanced conversation really seemed more appropriate to me...
I do not know what caused the fires, and as I stated above, I live smack dab in fire country in Nevada County, California... The topic matters to me... Both there and here... So speculation and statements without even the knowledge to identify where the fires actually are, to me was just ridiculous...
As far as whether or not large hotels are already planed for the area? I doubt it, as Lahaina was really the only town on that side of the island that gave tourists anything to see or do. Outside of hotel nightlife, swimming polls, or water excursions... There was also Maui Air, and a few drives people could take, or charter to smaller islands, to whale watch and such... But it would make no sense to me to remove the only area where people could enjoy a town environment, and Kahaluia was more for the locals. Lahaina supplied the workforce for the service industry... As well as Kihei and other small towns on the island. The entire beach line above Lahaina is nothing but resorts, as well as below Kihei. No infrastructure, no economy for tourists...
These folks need homes and fast or there will not be any bookings in those fancy hotels, as there will be no one to clean, serve them, cook for them, etc.. Their investments initially would tank HARD if this was the plan... Many in the area lived multi generationally in their homes... Some commuted from Kona, back and forth to survive, and work the industry... As far as I last heard, and they may have been wrong, C&H no longer harvest sugarcane there... And their fields are now expensive homes... Ones the locals probably couldn't afford on service industry wages. My roommate there made his living solely on replacing the brake shoes on those trucks when they were in service...
I just want to add reasons for why something doesn't sound like a sound reason to torch the place.. As I said, I do not know what caused the fires, but I do appreciate people putting more thought into it besides just Shock headlines... Thank You for being so respectful... And I do apologize if my posts offended anyone.. I suppose I am still in shock it even happened...
norman
13th August 2023, 12:22
This might interest the DEW discussion participants. Apparently there is actually a place on the island called the Directed Energy Directorate.
https://flightlineinsignia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/AIR-FORCE-RESEARCH-LABORATORY-DIRECTED-ENERGY-DIRECTORATE-LASER-1076-D.jpg
WERE DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS USED IN MAUI? LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN PROVE...
The Last American Vagabond - 1 hour 10 minutes - Posted Aug 12, 2023
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thepainterdoug
13th August 2023, 13:04
Im seeing videos, reading statements and I don't really know anything . I am locked in sadness and mourning for the horrific deaths of so many people maybe a thousand or so and most of them possibly children. Can anyone imagine the fear and horror of so many caught in this inferno facing their end.
There needs to be time of mourning this . It seems so many reports are about the land, the property, who will get what and the lands future as if no one was ever there.
If there was ever a case for remaining spirits, hauntings and a future curse , this is it.
Arcturian108
13th August 2023, 13:23
The following post which I found on Twitter appears to explain what the motive might be for burning the small town of Lahaina. It appears that it fits into the larger WEF agenda of creating the first U.S. totally green state:
https://twitter.com/catsscareme2021/status/1690499296204898304
1690499296204898304
Paul D.
13th August 2023, 13:36
What a coincidence...again.
Link to post in Predictive Programming
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121328-Predictive-programming-in-video-games-Movies-Popular-culture&p=1571816&viewfull=1#post1571816
thepainterdoug
13th August 2023, 14:31
Arcturian,
And if so ?, and if true the WEF ? and by their own words I wouldnt doubt it in the least, just ponder the monsters these people are ?
Humans are a horriable creature in what they are capable of.
Sure, sitting around a table of elites ,clinking glasses, making their plans for themselves and their children , they will have it all , and their evil cruelity, they will live with just fine.
As long as its not them, thier kids, their interests etc they march forward in lock step. In my mind they are far worse than any of histories evil, simply cause it is not necessary, it is a fabricated reset by those who have the power for the interests of those who will hold the power.
If I could say reveloution!! I would! but the individual already has been and will be brushed aside.
Ratszinger
13th August 2023, 14:36
What a coincidence...again.
Link to post in Predictive Programming
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121328-Predictive-programming-in-video-games-Movies-Popular-culture&p=1571816&viewfull=1#post1571816
I thought I'd post the pic.
Paul D.
13th August 2023, 14:45
I can't voucher for the authenticity of this video but thought I would share.
I have seen more than enough evidence to say D.E.W. where used though,and not for the first time by long way 🤬
6 secs.
1690721614369873920
Ratszinger
13th August 2023, 15:58
On Aug. 10th of 2023 Mountain Dew released for sale 12 packs of a new beverage. Two days later there were reports of, "Directed Energy Weapons" causing fires in select spots coming from the sky and before anyone could act they were surrounded by fire. Maui literally burst into flames. Those of the religion knew. They knew just how much time they had, until the 12th, hence the 12 pack. They knew the target, Maui, and they knew flames would be involved or explosions or bursts from "DEW" a "Directed Energy Weapon" How you ask?
Like this: They even abbreviated Mountain to MTN (Maui target notice) So the full message reads, 12 Aug 2023 "Maui Target Notice, Directed Energy Weapon, Maui burst". They intend to make it their new 'Carbon Free City' as an example to the world to combat global warming.
Arcturian108
13th August 2023, 16:19
In this video a local resident of Lahaina speaks about the fire not being natural, as the winds came from the east, which is not a normal weather pattern in Hawaii:
https://twitter.com/Ivankalema01/status/1690637790323560448
Arcturian108
13th August 2023, 16:34
Arcturian,
And if so ?, and if true the WEF ? and by their own words I wouldnt doubt it in the least, just ponder the monsters these people are ?
Humans are a horriable creature in what they are capable of.
Sure, sitting around a table of elites ,clinking glasses, making their plans for themselves and their children , they will have it all , and their evil cruelity, they will live with just fine.
As long as its not them, thier kids, their interests etc they march forward in lock step. In my mind they are far worse than any of histories evil, simply cause it is not necessary, it is a fabricated reset by those who have the power for the interests of those who will hold the power.
If I could say reveloution!! I would! but the individual already has been and will be brushed aside.
Doug,
Since you asked me directly as to why humans could be doing this to other humans, I believe the Satanism at the top of the human pyramid is still active and attempting to delude us all. In terms of a sacrificial date, they again picked a known power number of 8/8, sometimes referred to as the Lion's Gate Portal. (https://www.astrology.com/article/lion-gate-portal-meaning/)
When the town of Paradise, California was hit with DEW's it became clear to me that this is how the powers-that-be would be clearing desirable land in the future. And one way to know that the cabal orchestrated that event, was to see the final official death statistic, which was only about 87, when some of us knew that thousands died there. That is also the way we will know that this was orchestrated, when the official death statistic stays under 100 for instance.
thepainterdoug
13th August 2023, 18:07
seeClearly
my suspicians with the video, it zooms in prior to the event, and the sound effects.
this doesnt mean its not real etc, just means that for me, until video people stop adding entertainment into their evidence, it will harm its credibility. I have been ranting on this for years.
Paul D.
13th August 2023, 18:21
seeClearly
my suspicians with the video, it zooms in prior to the event, and the sound effects.
this doesnt mean its not real etc, just means that for me, until video people stop adding entertainment into their evidence, it will harm its credibility. I have been ranting on this for years.
Yes , I don't like the sensationalism either I usually turn the sound off t.b.h. .But like I said, I shared it just to add .I have seen so much evidence of horrific D.E.W. usage. Heard testimonies like posted above & seen Predictive Programming & encoding also posted prior & other members thoughts which often echo mine . To me there is very little doubt this was another staggeringly evil attack on humanity with the aid of advanced technology for multiple evil purposes. It triggers me & makes my blood boil & as such has to be acknowledged for what it is I.m.o.
Raskolnikov
13th August 2023, 18:21
Reminds me of Paradise, California in 2018 (https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Americas-Deadliest-Wildfire-100-Years-48-Dead-Paradise-California).
https://s.w-x.co/wu/paradise-cars.jpg
Just my two cents but sure looks similar to me too. Steel burns at 2200-2500 degrees F while wildfires supposedly burn at around 1400 degrees F, so why the melted steel and the standing trees?
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How is this even possible?
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And again, down to the foundations and trees untouched.
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Great research everyone, much appreciated. My brother lived in Lahaina for three years and can't believe it's gone.
thepainterdoug
13th August 2023, 18:42
Anyone who goes to Dr Judy Woods book, "Where did the Towers Go" will see the exact kind of destruction. The unexplainable melting of metal while plastics and trees are ok
Arcturian108
13th August 2023, 19:02
This looks like an authentic video at the beginning of the torching of Lahaina. Scroll down a bit for the video whose caption reads: "I was warned not to post this video":
https://twitter.com/MattWallace888
norman
13th August 2023, 20:11
This looks like an authentic video at the beginning of the torching of Lahaina. Scroll down a bit for the video whose caption reads: "I was warned not to post this video":
https://twitter.com/MattWallace888
It seems to be this one. Shocking if it's genuine.
https://twitter.com/MattWallace888/status/1690698277576921088
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Mark (Star Mariner)
13th August 2023, 21:22
A very brief dig says this is two months old, from Chile, and is footage of a transformer exploding.
EuqA8bEhYZQ
Michel Leclerc
13th August 2023, 21:41
seeClearly
my suspicians with the video, it zooms in prior to the event, and the sound effects.
this doesnt mean its not real etc, just means that for me, until video people stop adding entertainment into their evidence, it will harm its credibility. I have been ranting on this for years.
Besides the fact that it mixes ethical immaturity in with their intent – which inspires me utter caution.
Gwin Ru
13th August 2023, 22:24
A very brief dig says this is two months old, from Chile, and is footage of a transformer exploding.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EuqA8bEhYZQIn that newscast there are two videos of the incident with two different background chatter and one of them doesn't exhibit the straight lens flare... oooppsss...
Also, from the tweet:
It depicts a transformer exploding. With YouTube’s frame-by-frame tool (using the < and > keys) and high resolution, you can see that the beam weakens as the explosion does
onawah
13th August 2023, 23:44
King Charles/Green Climate Agenda & Maui fires Pt. 1
August 13, 2023
https://securetherepublic.com/arkansas/2023/08/13/king-charles-his-green-climate-agenda-part-1-and-recent-maui-fires/
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"The totalitarian, gruesome, green global government, along with their propaganda and lies, are the big issues looming over us in these trying times.
Psalm 23:4 – “Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.”
This article is food for thought for those who would like to get to know the sadist global players surrounding the cunning climate change agenda and the many atrocities that go along with it. If you read diverse news reports, you will be able to get a better prospective on exactly what is going on worldwide.
Some concerning United Nations quotes:
“… since the 1800s, human activities have been the main driver of climate change, primarily due to the burning of fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas.”
“Climate scientists have showed that humans are responsible for virtually all global heating over the last 200 years.” (That’s a UN typo on the word “showed”. It should be “shown”.)
UN quotes like these — their propaganda — are the reason the global elite are using for the genocidal culling of humanity. The Luciferian New World Order (NWO) is relentless in implementing their tyranny through their monstrous objectives, year after year!
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.” Romans 1:22
Have you seen these images?
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“While the earth remains, seed-time and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, and day and night shall NOT cease.” Genesis 8:22
Disturbingly, the Luciferians’ religion includes child sacrifice along the way to power, fame, and wealth. For years we’ve been hearing about royal families, police, politicians, military, judiciary, business men, and celebrities being involved in the torture, rape, abuse, and murder of innocent children, so we don’t want to use the word “Luciferianism” lightly when describing the global elite in the NWO.
This year we are witnessing shifts of power in the earth, including world leadership.
The United Nations and their minions will be taking whatever actions are necessary to achieve their dreaded Sustainable Development Goals which appear to be what the ungodly overseers of the planet want to be implemented on humanity… one way or another. We need to understand that harsh measures have been laid down in order to “move forward” according to their heinous dictatorial agenda. If you listen to their elite talk, you will soon find out that WE are not sustainable.
Due to the warmer temperatures, we expected fires to to pop up and develop somewhere worldwide so the climate elite could tout, “See, it’s global warming taking place! Therefore we MUST take action.”
Now the recent all-consuming Maui fires in Hawaii and their heavy death toll in the community of Lahaina that were victims of this disaster are suffering greatly from being targeted. It will spark the radical climate change agenda to rage! See this quick video from a local resident. (Click on the 3 dots and download the video so you can hear him speak.)
And of course, the NWO media is NOT properly reporting everything going on there.
Wildfires are one thing. But the cause of THESE fires is much more sinister and deadly…
See this video: Maui Directed Energy Weapon assault, like 9/11, Paradise, CA., Malibu and Boulder fires.
Another video: Maui proof of Directed Energy Weapons & elsewhere, who benefits from these land grabs?
As stated in the video regarding vehicle damage: melted rims, melted glass, missing door handles, and melted engine blocks!!! Since when do wildfires cause such devastation? And note that there is no foliage around those cars TO burn. “Embers that blow in the wind” do not cause this level of incredible damage and destruction. Directed energy weapons and electricity-based plasma fires do, though.
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Globalists Launch Climate Terrorist Attack Against Citizens in Maui Destroying Lives and Property
Hundreds of people are feared dead and entire towns have burned to the ground in Maui, Hawaii, in what is clearly a climate terrorist attack by billionaire Globalists against the citizens of Hawaii, primarily on the island of Maui.
Just as Hawaii was the focal point of bringing the U.S. into the conflict during World War II, so today it appears that it is the focal point in the agricultural war of the 21st century. Hawaii today is the centerpiece for two vastly contrasting methods of producing food: the development of genetically engineered seeds and the development of Korean Natural Farming.
Biotechnology, with genetically modified seeds as their centerpiece, has taken over the food supply of the United States.
Hawaii, with its isolated and pristine ecosystems, is a perfect testing ground for the biotech’s testing and development of genetic engineering.
Were the people who died burned from the inside out? This damage coming from a directed energy weapon is a plausible hypothesis…
Note: The photo above shows “Trees not burned”. This is actually ONE tree — a historic beloved 150-year-old banyan tree in the heart of Lahaina.
And what about the people still missing?
Maui wildfire survivor tells of ‘dead bodies floating in the water’
Hawaiian residents are bracing for the death toll to climb higher with around 1,000 people still missing in the apocalyptic wildfires.
Amy, our prayers are with you and all of the people in Lahaina, your neighbors. God has prepared you, other nurses, and doctors for this evil time to care and pray for the burn victims. You were born for such a time as this.
Matthew 5:4 “Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.”
Psalm 147:3 “He heals the broken-hearted and binds up their wounds.”
The diabolical scheming of the global elite is still being loosed upon this earth under the green guise of “climate change”. A war has been openly declared on vulnerable humanity, and some may not even be aware of it. We are witnessing private philanthropy, propaganda, and persuasion purposely directed to flood the world with their lies.
Do you ever wonder who is the TOP elite globalist commanding the United Nations (UN), the World Economic Forum (WEF), and the entire world with this demonically inspired Climate Change Agenda being rapidly implemented now? It’s none other than the “Green” Ecumenical Sovereign, King Charles III. It’s been said that he is the clarion voice for environmentalism.
He has a lot of imagery, and we will only look at a few of those images… for now. Pay attention to the symbolism.
At the age of 74, King Charles III’s full grandiose coronation ceremony was held Saturday, May 6, 2023. His reign was formalized at his coronation which involved sacred traditions. Many pledged their allegiance to Charles, including Prince William, and Camilla was crowned queen.
It does have a lot of dark meanings. His duty is MORE than ceremonial because behind the scenes, his hand is in a malevolent global agenda.
He was born on November 14, 1948 and ascended the throne at age 73 when his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, died in September 2022. He is the 40th sovereign to be enthroned AND the oldest person to become monarch in the United Kingdom. Moreover, he has been meticulously groomed from childhood for this time and this position he now holds on planet earth, so he is the longest serving heir-apparent in British history.
Coronation portraits are specifically designed to capture this monarch in a “display of power” at a defining moment in his reign. Quoting Alison Smith, chief curator at the National Portrait Gallery:
‘Coronation portraits exist as propaganda,’ says Smith. ‘In the days before photography and video, they proved an important way of propagating the royal image and enhancing the authority of kingship.’
The worldly spectacle was code-named Operation Golden Orb.
The Imperial State Crown, Robe of Estate, sceptre, and orb represent a monarch’s authority over his subjects. The globe surmounted by a cross stresses that royal power on Earth is derived from God.
Charles must have had delusions of grandeur as he sat in the 700-year-old oak Coronation Chair. Underneath the seat was a sacred slab known as the Stone of Scone on which ancient Scottish kings were crowned. Moreover, he was anointed with oil from the Mount of Olives in the Holy Land, a part of the ceremony so sacred that it was concealed behind the screens and presented with an orb, swords, and scepters.
Note: King Charles the 1st was executed in 1649! Oliver Cromwell ordered that the orb and sceptres should be broken as they stood for the ‘detestable rule of kings’. All the gemstones were removed and sold, and the precious metal was used to make coins.
Believing it’s his sovereign birthright, King Charles III opened the service with the oath:
“I, Charles, do solemnly and sincerely in the presence of God profess, testify, and declare that I am a faithful Protestant.”
A protestant, really? This ecumenical coronation event was also the first to include representatives of the Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, and Sikh faiths.
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Britain’s King Charles is pictured in full regalia in the Throne Room at Buckingham Palace, London. The king is wearing the Robe of Estate, the Imperial State Crown and is holding the Sovereign’s Orb and Sovereign’s Sceptre with Cross.
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Many world leaders and royals from other countries gathered at Westminster Abbey, London’s iconic monument, to behold and hail the coronation of the new British monarch in this ancient rite with all it’s pomp and splendor. Trumpets sounded inside the medieval abbey and the congregation shouted “God save the king!”
King Charles and other key royals joined a magnificent military procession after the coronation ceremony was over.
Westminster Abbey has been Britain’s coronation church since 1066. Under the Crown, the king is now worth trillions of dollars, owning an infinite amount of land on this planet.
The Metropolitan Police said ahead of the big event they would have an “extremely low threshold” for protests during coronation celebrations, adding, “demonstrators should expect swift action”!
Amid a severe cost-of-living crisis, this whole Great Reset is devastating the world, using the over-used term “sustainability”, is all under King Charles’ green agenda, the carbon taxation scheme and… the infamous digital currency to track and control us using AI (Artificial Intelligence).
This powerful King wants crypto currencies, and he wants them heavily regulated, so get prepared because we think he will grant extensive oversight to the regulators. We will see a quick transformation within the AI investment sector. This top elitist, now King, wants a cashless society. Mr. John Howells, the man who is in charge of Britain’s ATM network, said that cash has as little as five years left as its infrastructure experiences death by a thousand cuts.
Cryptocurrency! June 30, 2023: King Charles III Signs Groundbreaking Stablecoin Legislation
In a significant development for the crypto industry, the United Kingdom has solidified its commitment to fostering a thriving and regulated crypto landscape. Yesterday, King Charles III’s signature transformed a UK bill into law, granting regulators extensive powers to oversee stablecoin and cryptocurrency operations.
Tether (USDT) is often considered the oldest stablecoin, launched in 2014.
We know that the New World Order must have a digital currency for tracking and control of the population. So, the Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) is coming unless our state legislators and Congress can stop it. If lawmakers keep passing these bad bills given by the global elites, it will put us deeper into the hands of the NWO.
Crypto can crash for any number of reasons, so beware. The stock market will become volitional, too. We are already seeing people that are literally counting their pennies as they struggle with rising prices.
Moreover, the evil depopulation agenda should be included, too! Eugenics seems to have always been an issue with the “royal” family in the British monarchy.
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The Duke of Edinburgh Prince Philip turns 99 on Wednesday, June 10, 2020.
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Demented quote from Prince Philip. He passed at the age of 99:
“In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”
The Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA), also known as Chatham House, is one of the world’s leading institutes/think tanks for the analysis of international issues. The RIIA helped develop what is now known as the United Nations (UN). At the Chatham House, King Charles and politics come into play because he is busy working and playing the horned-god on his sinister sustainable list of ideas for the planet and all the people dwelling upon it.
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Above, we see this idolatrous Statue of Prince Charles (now King) made by Brazil depicting him as a winged “Savior of the World” shows his true colors.
This Luciferian appears as an angel of light, but in reality, is an angel of darkness.
The whole wicked green agenda is being hurled at us straight out of the pit of hell. In the coronation invitation below released by the head of the Church of England, King Charles, see the pagan image called the “Green Man” (Cernunnos):
Mysterious ‘Green Man’ on King Charles’s Coronation Invitation Brashly Invokes Britain’s Pagan Past
A snippet:
Scholars trace the Green Man’s ancestry to remotest antiquity, in such figures as a Norse god, Odin, and the ruler of the Egyptian underworld, Osiris. His relatives include Robin Hood and Peter Pan, as well as the later English May Day custom of Jack in the Green. He was the theme of the Burning Man Festival, in 2007.
We must always remember that the Green Man has a dark side! This is a pagan symbol of rebirth. This invitation must have been planned to celebrate and reveal his New Age reign.
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Open your eyes. This is life-changing information you might want to look at these days. This evil climate change agenda is dangerous and is designed to release chaos on humanity.
Cernunnos is the Green Man, and to the ancient Celtic people was the god of animals, fertility, and wild places. He was revered as one of the most important deities in the pantheon. In modern neopagan religions, he is also seen as a god of life, death, and rebirth. See Study.com.
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12
King Charles is over Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum (WEF). The king had the hardened Klaus Schwab put in place there to oversee his directives.
Globalization Policies! This article was released in June 2020 entitled “The Great Reset” from the World Economic Forum held in January 2020. They are anti-human and atheistic views of the world:https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/the-great-reset-this-weeks-world-vs-virus-podcast/
http://https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/the-great-reset-this-weeks-world-vs-virus-podcast/October 31, 2021– G20 summit: Prince Charles calls for ‘trillions of dollars of investment’ to tackle climate change (46-second video)
Watch this one-minute and 36 second clip of Prince Charles in Glasgow because he’s talking about a vast military-style campaign: November 1, 2021– Prince Charles At COP26: ‘Time Has Quite Literally Run Out’
For your convenience, here is Prince Charles’ radical COP26 Climate Summit Glasgow Speech Transcript.
COP27, the 27th U.N. Climate Conference, was done just like King Charles wanted it done. He even met with stakeholders BEFORE the conference to ensure the outcome.
King Charles to Host COP27 Event at Buckingham Palace
“His Majesty The King will host a reception at Buckingham Palace on Friday, 4th November 2022, ahead of the COP27 Summit. The reception will bring together over 200 international business leaders, decision makers and NGOs to mark the end of the United Kingdom’s presidency of COP26 and look ahead to the COP27 Summit in Egypt,” Buckingham Palace said in a statement.
Attendees will include the new British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, COP President Alok Sharma. and U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry. The King will make a speech.
This new British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, is pushing for the NWO digital dollar and founded a company called Infosys. Here is their 2022-2023 report if you dare download it. They are navigating change at the pace of AI. Some of you may be tempted to invest in the digital dollar and want to swell your bank account with digital currencies, but this won’t be so easy to survive once AI gets loosed.
The CEO of Infosys this statement in a letter to their shareholders:
“We have developed a strong set of capabilities in generative artificial intelligence to enhance how we enable our clients to derive value. These capabilities are available to all our clients in the form of Infosys Topaz TM. ”
Readers, this isn’t Biden’s green agenda. It is King Charles long-awaited green agenda, and he is pushing forward with it. The Biden Administration jumped and immediately came out with this fact sheet on climate change. If you recall, last year, Biden signed an expansive legislative package that included nearly $375 BILLION in climate-related incentives. It was the most substantial federal investment in history. Whenever the King speaks, Biden jumps and says, “How high”? We, the people, are betrayed on all sides, with no proper representation from our elected officials, and we have many internal enemies residing here in the U.S. But we cannot just give up, either.
Fascist King Charles is over the Public Private Partnerships effort globally and is pressing for private companies to do more to bolster clean energy.
See this must-read document dated July 10, 2023:
JOINT FACT SHEET: President Biden and His Majesty King Charles III Meet with Leading Philanthropists and Financiers to Catalyze Climate Finance
Today, President Biden and His Majesty King Charles III met at Windsor Castle with 23 leading philanthropists and financiers to help catalyze finance to support emerging markets and developing countries in tackling the climate crisis. The gathering followed the Climate Finance Mobilization Forum, which was convened by the UK Energy Security and Net Zero Secretary Grant Shapps and U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry, and inspired by the work of His Majesty the King.
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And this next AP article dated July 20, 2023 reveals just how deep this “green” agenda funding goes…
Public funding for King Charles III and royals has been recalculated due to windfarm deal profits
LONDON (AP) — The amount of public funding for King Charles III and the royal family’s official duties has been recalculated for next year because of an unexpected profit boost from offshore wind farms on the monarch’s Crown Estate, the U.K. Treasury said Thursday.
Charles and the royal family receive an annual Sovereign Grant from the Treasury that is based on a proportion of profits from the crown estate, a vast collection of land and property across the U.K. The crown estate is run independently and has assets worth around 16 billion pounds (nearly $20 billion), including some of London’s most expensive properties.
The crown estate also manages coastlines and the seabed around the country, and six new offshore windfarm lease deals secured earlier this year have generated a windfall estimated to be worth 1 billion pounds ($1.3 billion) a year.
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President of the People’s Republic of China, Xi Jinping, addresses the UN Summit on Biodiversity
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Also, Charles executed the FIRST global security lecture for the United Nations (UN) and their senior officials concerning the urgent actions to be taken regarding Sustainable Development Goals.
LIVE: UN chief, Prince Charles, join calls for end to biodiversity destruction
The Prince called for a new “Marshall Plan” for a “blue-green recovery’ rooted in a new circular economy, that has nature at its centre, and went on to list some ways to bring this about. These include implementing carbon pricing; accelerating carbon capture technology, including nature-based solutions; and ending “perverse” subsidies for fossil fuels.
“We know what we need to do, but we have to take bold steps now”, he concluded. “So let’s get on with it!”
Readers, the global elite have definite plans to change things severely and reduce the population on this planet!
This is why Charles III will be known as the 1st climate king, experts say
Now it is abundantly clear what Charles wishes to accomplish during his time as monarch, experts say…
Charles’ efforts have also included championing initiatives to engage businesses around conversations about sustainability and, most importantly, focusing on trying to find solutions that work, according to Bob Ward, policy and communications director at The London School of Economics and Political Science’s Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment.
Due to his “extensive background” on environment and sustainability issues, there is “no doubt” that the depth of Charles’ commitment to it runs deep, Alden Meyer, a senior associate working on U.S. and international climate policy and politics at E3G, a London-based think tank on climate policy, told ABC News.
In June 2021, before the G-7 summit commenced in Cornwall, Charles urged businesses to tackle the climate emergency alongside government, adding that unlocking cash within the private sector was the key to winning the battle against global warming and biodiversity loss.
Here’s a quote from the UN, so what we are facing from the global elite:
We face a huge challenge but already know many solutions
Many climate change solutions can deliver economic benefits while improving our lives and protecting the environment. We also have global frameworks and agreements to guide progress, such as the Sustainable Development Goals, the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change and the Paris Agreement. Three broad categories of action are: cutting emissions, adapting to climate impacts and financing required adjustments.
Switching energy systems from fossil fuels to renewables like solar or wind will reduce the emissions driving climate change. But we have to act now. While a growing number of countries is committing to net zero emissions by 2050, emissions must be cut in half by 2030to keep warming below 1.5°C. Achieving this means huge declines in the use of coal, oil and gas: over two-thirds of today’s proven reserves of fossil fuels need to be kept in the ground by 2050 in order to prevent catastrophic levels of climate change.
Prior to the big plandemic event and economic destruction in 2020, the global elite met and reported on their accomplishments.
Here is a video of Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, and Bill Gates, Founder of Microsoft, attending the Malaria Summit on April 18, 2018 in London, England. Gates makes a very suspicious statement while talking with Prince Charles saying, “…we are done in India… no cases in Africa for over a year… Pakistan and Afganistan are doing their best, but because of the terrorism it’s been tough… not polio, but measles, some pertussis, the vaccine, in a way, we’ve been too successful.” Then, Gates smiles…
Oh, how they like to INJECT their poisonous substances into unsuspecting humanity!
King Charles III is over the whole British Commonwealth — Look at all of the countries because that could be one-third of the global population! As of 2023, there are 15 Commonwealth realms:
Antigua and Barbuda
Australia
the Bahamas
Belize
Canada
Grenada
Jamaica
New Zealand
Papua New Guinea
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Solomon Islands
Tuvalu, and
the United Kingdom.
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The expansive Commonwealth comprises 56 countries, across all inhabited continents. The members have a combined population of 2.4 billion people, again, it’s almost a third of the world population, with 1.4 billion living in India, and 94% living in either Asia or Africa.
The symbol above centers on a globe, representing the global nature of the Commonwealth and the breadth of its membership. A gold globe, surrounded by 34 sunrays, on a blue field.
That’s a lot of people, dear readers! The world does NOT need the royals influencing legislation and participating in world affairs.
Our own state of Arkansas dodged another bullet this last legislative session (2023) when one of our state legislators, Rep. Aaron Pilkington from Knoxville, Arkansas sponsored a threatening international resolution, HR1012:
TO ENCOURAGE THE UNITED STATES TO BECOME A MEMBER
OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF NATIONS.
[IMG]While visiting here in the US, certain royals and dignitaries are often given their own code name. Charles was given the name ‘Unicorn’. The unicorn is the national animal of Scotland, part of its coat of arms for some 600 years. Tales of dominance and chivalry are associated with the mythological unicorn. Ancient cultures going as far back as the Babylonians, and the Indus civilization have featured unicorns.
The symbols in the Coat of Arms:
The text of the motto surrounding the crest reads: Honi soit qui mal y pense (‘Evil to him who evil thinks’). This was the symbol of the Order of the Garter.
The text below is the Sovereign’s motto: Dieu et mon droit (‘God and my right’).
The crest represents England, Scotland, and Ireland, with the three lions of England appearing in the first and third quadrant, the lion of Scotland in the second and the harp or Ireland in the fourth.
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Antagenet
14th August 2023, 04:43
https://twitter.com/OnlytrendsX/status/1690478120699043841
https://twitter.com/DavidWolfe/status/1690412772411031553
https://twitter.com/AKTtruckngal/status/1690464863502614528
https://twitter.com/AKTtruckngal/status/1690464863502614528
https://twitter.com/GhostStudios19/status/1690464785652166656
https://twitter.com/NotiSere/status/1690461144819859456
https://twitter.com/JeepJarod/status/1690459354863169536
https://twitter.com/jardacarda72/status/1690456337719664640
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/asia_pacific/2023-08-12/hawaii-maui-fire-victims-aid-11026730.html
The global parasites targeted a population of very spiritually beautiful people, the Hawaiians,
and the center of their Kingdom, Lahaina. I hate them all the more for this.
I hope to GOD that the Hawaiians revolt and somehow manage to get OUT OF THE USA
and get their whole kingdom back.
I am a Hawaiian Nationalist
I am a Mexican Nationalist
and I am also a European Nationalist, and proud to be white.
I believe that Nations under the control of their local populations
are the sanest and most free way to live.
thepainterdoug
14th August 2023, 09:38
Antagenet/ well said ,thank you. very stirring. Its all so sickening. I watched all the links
Vangelo
14th August 2023, 10:54
One of my dearest friend's home was literally the first to burn in Lahaina. His son works for the dept of defense and rumor is they have flown in 1000 body bags. The majority of the deaths are people stuck in their cars trying to flee. The victims are both tourists and locals. He has heard the many conspiracy theories but does not think they are true. According to him, the fire started with the storm that dropped power lines which in-turn ignited the fire. The boats moored in the water caught fire when the winds, as high as 75 mph, blew ambers everywhere, that is why it spread so quickly as well.
ExomatrixTV
14th August 2023, 14:36
100% related:
They Weaponized The Weather: 2023 Update! (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120931-They-Weaponized-The-Weather-2023-Update-)
'Climate Lockdowns' are Coming (Agenda2030) Predicted by Conspiracy Researchers! (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115447-Climate-Lockdowns-are-Coming--Agenda2030--Predicted-by-Conspiracy-Researchers-)
Eva2
14th August 2023, 15:51
'Hawaii Fires - Shocking Maui Fire Updates - OUTRAGEOUS!'
https://rumble.com/v376wmj-hawaii-fires-shocking-maui-fire-updates-outrageous.html
'Locals in Maui Were Refusing To Sell Their Land To The Elites 🚨
⚠️ The Part of The Island Mainly Destroyed By The Fires Was Prime Area Right Next To Lavish Mega-Mansions ⚠️
⚠️ Now, A Lot of Those Locals Are Forced To Sell Their Land and Many Tragically Died in The Flames ⚠️
Oprah Winfrey Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Jeff Bezos Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Lady Gaga Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Bill Gates Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Morgan Freeman Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Will Smith Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Julia Roberts Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
HOW DID THE FIRE KNOW TO AVOID THE MOST EXPENSIVE MANSIONS?'
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thepainterdoug
14th August 2023, 16:27
Its called a smart fire. It is enacted if you have a smart meter on your home, or unless of course you are of plastic and trees. The fire is also neat, keeping streets clean and tidy.
sorry for the humor but...
Raskolnikov
14th August 2023, 17:17
One of my dearest friend's home was literally the first to burn in Lahaina. His son works for the dept of defense and rumor is they have flown in 1000 body bags. The majority of the deaths are people stuck in their cars trying to flee. The victims are both tourists and locals. He has heard the many conspiracy theories but does not think they are true. According to him, the fire started with the storm that dropped power lines which in-turn ignited the fire. The boats moored in the water caught fire when the winds, as high as 75 mph, blew ambers everywhere, that is why it spread so quickly as well.
I have a friend who said this: It was like a blast furnace with the wind, a somewhat normal fire can reach extreme heat with the winds being that strong. I saw it first hand, you've seen how packed those neighborhoods are on Lahainaluna. It was like having 60mph trades with gusts approaching 90mph. Says he got out safely with his family. He's awake to this world's deceptions and is not sure about the prevailing conspiracy theories, but he did think it looked oddly similar to Paradise. And he recently posted this about land grabs.
Thanks for the great links Antagenet, love hearing from those on the ground, though my heart goes out to them.
mountain_jim
14th August 2023, 19:26
this was earlier...
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1691130055140024321?s=20
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edit - Clif responds
https://twitter.com/clif_high/status/1691130785427009536?s=20
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mountain_jim
14th August 2023, 20:24
apologies requested in advance (for inserting a little pointed humor into this tragedy)
https://twitter.com/PunishDem1776/status/1691161602559553536?s=20
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thepainterdoug
14th August 2023, 20:34
I dont seek out or cling to so called conspiracy theories. If the downed power line cause it, then so be it, what a tragedy no matter what the cause.
But everyones suspicion is fostered and created by a government that has created ample reason for mistrust. No one believes authorities anymore
Paul D.
14th August 2023, 20:47
Best video I've seen so far , shared by David Icke . Hit the Tweet & takes you to 9.18 min. Video.
If you still believe it was a natural occurance or regular arson after seeing this then good luck to you ,you'll need it .
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jaybee
14th August 2023, 22:06
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Starting to make more sense now....looks like Maui (maybe Hawaii in it's entirety in the not too distant future) is going to be Built Back 'Better'.... :/
(26:56)
That didn't take long! Look who donated $100 million to Maui's smart city rebuild!
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Raskolnikov
14th August 2023, 23:13
Another witness trying to expose the lies:
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/DSroKLmJAvZf/
thepainterdoug
14th August 2023, 23:40
See Clearly I have seen much of this so far and all of it reminds me of my very deep long dive into 9/11 in 2001. No matter what happened or how,and what we each believe, we are going to all need good luck as there is most likely , nothing actionable.
The entire system, everything, needs to come down.
ExomatrixTV
14th August 2023, 23:46
Huge Long Lasting DEW Weapon Deployed Across The Earth
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seehas
15th August 2023, 00:29
thats devastating and i feel sad for everyone that suffered
reading all these coments on several youtube videos, the sheeps are still not getting it, unable to use their own brain and analysze simple facts - how on earth can you belive that this destruction was caused by a "wild fire"
people that are unable to count to 10 will face the fake alien invasion, oh boy ... they can simple do what ever they want and 90% of the population will not even think about it for one second, what a crazy planet to be alive on
Icare
15th August 2023, 01:07
This video from "The Freedom Articles" on rumble is very convincing. It was definitely not a wildfire and it looks very much like a landgrab.
One of the comments underneath under the video says,
"The governor just passed an executive order saying that the land can be confiscated if there is a fire." If that is true, it definitely is a landgrab.
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Icare
15th August 2023, 02:04
Truly shocking, the authorities did not allow private help in the from of food etc for the population.
That reminds me of what happened when a part of Germany was flooded last year. The same thing happened, private people were not allowed to distribute food and water.
Greg Reece report from Infowars:
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Lunesoleil
15th August 2023, 07:56
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A survivor recounts what she experienced and saw in Maui, Hawaii during the fires that ravaged the island.
"It was an energy attack directed at people and Maui. Hundreds or even thousands of people died. This is not a natural disaster! »
Many testimonies point in the direction of an arson by directed energy weapon...
Lunesoleil
15th August 2023, 08:29
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A woman says real estate agents and investors are calling families offering money to buy their burnt land.
Lunesoleil
15th August 2023, 08:42
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Scenes showing the aftermath of recent fires in #Hawaii.
what kind of "wildfire" can leave trees intact, but disintegrate houses without a trace?
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Now that they've razed all the oceanfront villas, what are they going to build?
Rizotto
15th August 2023, 08:54
So, prior to the fire there was a WEF plan to turn Maui into a smart city... but the land is native owned. So, after the fire, the natives whose homes just burned down are getting calls from real estate agents wanting to buy their land.
14 minute video by Eloho, compilation of Lahaina residents' testimony.
Locals Tell What REALLY Happened Maui Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Zmz2Z8JE8
Eric J (Viking)
15th August 2023, 09:26
JUST IN: Unbelievable videos out of Hawaii… and drone footage that is IMPOSSIBLE in a fire…. no?
Check this out…
https://summarynews.whatfinger.com/2023/08/14/just-in-unbelievable-video-out-of-hawaii-shows-fire-being-blown-across-the-street/
Viking
ExomatrixTV
15th August 2023, 11:04
JUST IN: Unbelievable videos out of Hawaii… and drone footage that is IMPOSSIBLE in a fire…. no?
Check this out…
https://summarynews.whatfinger.com/2023/08/14/just-in-unbelievable-video-out-of-hawaii-shows-fire-being-blown-across-the-street/
Viking
So after California & Canada now Hawaii ... When you make a case for all 3 and give tips (instructions) what to look for, what tools we can use to expose this crime against humanity that is a ONGOING BASES process serving Technocratic (https://technocracy.news) Dystopian Totalitarian (WEF (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum) pushed) Agenda2030 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset)
Where will be the NEXT target of Weather Warfare (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120931-They-Weaponized-The-Weather-2023-Update-) combined with using DEW technology from Space and from HAARP-like facilities, maybe even tech used from Antarctica (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113918-Antarctica-So-much-to-learn--&p=1567353&viewfull=1#post1567353)!
When another region on Earth soon experience similar crisis, look for WEF (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum)/FEMA/Agenda2030 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset)/UN connections! ... How they are "prepared" to take over serving their "greater good" dystopia!
How long before they are able to make 'Climate Lockdowns' (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115447-Climate-Lockdowns-are-Coming--Agenda2030--Predicted-by-Conspiracy-Researchers-) the "new normal (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119992-The-Psychology-of-Totalitarianism)"?
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
seehas
15th August 2023, 12:47
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Listen to the video at the 1:55 mark, reminds me of the 911 narative about the airplane fuel weakening the structure of the building.
It does not matter how strong the wind is, this will not melt cars that are far away from any other object down like this, this is just not possible
and its pretty good visible in the video above, a car totaly perfect and 3 meters further a completly molten car ...
Mark (Star Mariner)
15th August 2023, 13:13
It does not matter how strong the wind is, this will not melt cars that are far away from any other object down like this, this is just not possible
An interesting but disturbing corollary, I posted these images back in the day on this 9/11 thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88490-The-sheer-volume-of-concrete-and-steel-that-simply-vanished-on-9-11&p=1041712&highlight=cars#post1041712).
September 11th 2001, New York City: These cars were destroyed and burned out in some cases up to half a mile away from ground zero (far from any fires and fallen debris).
This ambulance, burned out nearly completely on the inside rather than the outside.
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/Image156.jpg
A wrecked cop car - but only partially. Why is one half of the car burned to cinders, and the rear in tact?
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/Image11.jpg
A whole series of burned out and flattened cars, parked on FDR Drive, approximately half a mile away from the WTC. What caused that?
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/21.jpg
More cars, and another police car, again half burned/crushed, half in tact. Also no where near the WTC, and presumably protected from fallout anyway, being underneath an elevated overpass.
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/dewpics/policecar3.jpg
mountain_jim
15th August 2023, 14:03
https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1691346363844337664?s=20
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Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
Many people are caught up on the pathetic $700 payment per household for the Maui Hawaii Fires but did anyone else notice the word choice they used when posting this from Biden’s account?
‘Laser-Focused’…? Interesting choice of words when everyone is taking about DEWs. (Direct Energy Weapons). I don’t believe in coincidences, do you?
This is Hidden in Plain Sight.
saw at Clif's feed
https://twitter.com/clif_high/status/1691449709582508032?s=20
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HAVE YOU EVER SEEN FIRE CRAWL ACROSS & BURN PAVEMENT?
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ExomatrixTV
15th August 2023, 14:46
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Bruce G Charlton
15th August 2023, 14:48
Another perspective from Miles Mathis - which is that he suggests that the photographic evidence has apparently been faked; and therefore maybe the fire did not happen...
http://mileswmathis.com/maui.pdf
Bill Ryan
15th August 2023, 15:10
Another perspective from Miles Mathis - which is that he suggests that the photographic evidence has apparently been faked; and therefore maybe the fire did not happen...
http://mileswmathis.com/maui.pdfMiles Mathis also says (http://mileswmathis.com/trinity.pdf) that Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't happen, and that all that film was faked too. The man is a fool. (At least!)
seehas
15th August 2023, 15:15
Another perspective from Miles Mathis - which is that he suggests that the photographic evidence has apparently been faked; and therefore maybe the fire did not happen...
http://mileswmathis.com/maui.pdfMiles Mathis also says (http://mileswmathis.com/trinity.pdf) that Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't happen, and that all that film was faked too. The man is a fool. (At least!)
These claims contribute like the flat earthers do and confuse the already confused sheep herd even more.
Bill Ryan
15th August 2023, 15:17
ZGRLibwgmU4Mod Note from Bill:
John, way too many posts of yours (like this one! :facepalm:) have been reported to the mods — for many years now. The above quote was the entirety of your post. That's all there was.
From here on out, the mods are going to delete any posted videos of yours which we consider don't have have an adequate description.
Please, make more effort to be helpful. :flower:
:focus:
Mark (Star Mariner)
15th August 2023, 15:37
The man is a fool. (At least!)
Or a shill! The conspiracy "community" [officially now hate that word] is riddled with counter intelligence shills. Their junk narratives are intended to make conspiracy "theorists" [also hate that word] look like nubjobs to the normies. Unfortunately they do a very good job of achieving precisely that aim.
These claims contribute like the flat earthers do and confuse the already confused sheep herd even more.
Which is why we must be extra meticulous in our research and investigative efforts, with a special emphasis on what and how we →
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Delight
15th August 2023, 16:46
less than a week passed
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Bill Ryan
15th August 2023, 17:10
less than a week passed
1691363114292334592Wow. Here it is. It was published on 10 August. (But an ebook, only 44 pages, not a hard paper copy.)
https://amazon.com/Fire-Fury-Implications-Climate-Change-ebook/dp/B0CFCTLXJJ
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41cXRUgdYTL.jpg
The Amazon text:
Fire and Fury: The Story of the Maui Fire and its Implications for Climate Change is a gripping and eye-opening account of one of the most devastating wildfires in Hawaii's history, and how it reveals the urgent need to address the global climate crisis. The book chronicles the events of August 8-11, 2023, when a massive fire swept across the island of Maui, fueled by drought, heat, and hurricane winds. The book describes the harrowing experiences of the people who lived through the fire, as well as the heroic efforts of the firefighters and rescuers who battled the flames. The book also examines the causes and consequences of the fire, both locally and globally, and how it exposes the vulnerability of our society and our planet to the impacts of climate change. The book draws on scientific research, eyewitness accounts, official reports, and media coverage to provide a comprehensive and compelling narrative of the Maui fire and its implications for climate change. The book also offers practical solutions and recommendations on how we can prevent and prepare for future wildfires, and how we can reduce our greenhouse gas emissions and adapt to a changing climate. Fire and Fury: The Story of the Maui Fire and its Implications for Climate Change is a must-read for anyone who cares about the environment, the future of humanity, and the fate of our beautiful planet.
~~~
It's had 13 reviews, and every one gave it just 1 star (the minimum). The ebook may not be worth reading, but the reviews are fun. I'll merely copy the review titles. There are sure to be dozens more every day.
:)
Distasteful, factless, and poorly written
Are you KIDDING? Published before the fire is out?
Propaganda
How?
An average of 1 star cannot be considered a "Top Rated" release
SICK AND GREEDY
BAD INFORMATION
Disgusting
What???????? So the author wrote this BEFORE it happened?
Shows their agenda
Unbelievable
Distasteful
Absurd
mizo
15th August 2023, 17:20
Yes a book by Dr. Miles Stones -'Milestone' -an achievement it seems ?
rgray222
15th August 2023, 17:47
These hastily written pre-canned books are put out for two reasons,
1. Support the climate scam
2. Deflect the blame away from the truly guilty
Mari
15th August 2023, 17:59
A concise little video, from The Freedom Articles, 9.18 mins long, giving a strong case that the fires were the result of a DEW, and what 'they' hope to achieve via the resulting land-grab. Hope the link works.
https://rumble.com/v37arng-aloha-dew-lahaina-maui-hit-by-directed-energy-weapons.html
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Mark (Star Mariner)
15th August 2023, 18:00
Has it been taken down from Amazon? The link no longer works.
But my word, you know it must immediately stink when CLIMATE CHANGE is in the title. It's not official yet what even caused the fires. Parts of it are still smouldering!
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thepainterdoug
15th August 2023, 18:05
Bill
Im glad you called out this EBook Fire and Fury, perhaps it should be re title , " Lying, and poorly".
Im not going to even look at it, just knowing the opportunistic date. This is literary " ambulance chasing" at its finest. The big rush for the big buck, notoriety and fame along with being an influencer has so many in its grip.
Its a race to the bottom
The entire air around this tragedy has so little care and concern for the people, the children, the families, the lives , the heritage of the Hawaiians destroyed in such a horrible way.
Its being swept under the rug asap for the money shakers ,the big wigs who want beach front property and get first dibs on it. $$$ even faking generosoity with their millions, but for the reconstruction! just like Simpsons characther Mr Burns. Then Biden offers some spare change as Ukraine soaks up all our money
I don't think I have ever seen a tragic event move faster from horror ,sadness, morrning and grief, even Fake grief and concern to, ok boys , who's going to take what? Even 911 feigned a virtuous pause before "lucky larry" got his double settlement.
The idea that towns people are not being permitted in the area because they will carry the dust and remains of loved ones around on their cloths reaches an all time low in my book. Can anyone believe this police chiefs spiel as if he is speaking from some high spiritual authority caring about sacred ground? ? What a crude and crass human, tied to the doubtful Vegas shooting.
I am dizzy of recent. Dizzy like a seal pup clubbed over the head with the garbage this species man is dishing up on a daily basis that before I can comprehend one thing, another has begun.
Perhaps this is part of the design? Nordstream pipeline ,Ohio chemical derailment, Fetterman, Ukraine, well, I already cannot remember an adequate list or recent events that have had me appalled.
Bill Ryan
15th August 2023, 18:05
Has it been taken down from Amazon? The link no longer works.
Bad link, my apologies. Fixed, and here it is: :thumbsup:
https://amazon.com/Fire-Fury-Implications-Climate-Change-ebook/dp/B0CFCTLXJJ
Mari
15th August 2023, 18:09
A concise little video, from The Freedom Articles, 9.18 mins long, giving a strong case that the fires were the result of a DEW, and what 'they' hope to achieve via the resulting land-grab. Hope the link works.
https://rumble.com/v37arng-aloha-dew-lahaina-maui-hit-by-directed-energy-weapons.html
v34pd0k
Thanks Bill. I'm never sure what to do with Rumble vids :o
From Bill:
Dear Mari, you're not alone! :heart:
Here's exactly what to do:
Click the link on the main Rumble URL. (In this case, it's https://rumble.com/v37arng-aloha-dew-lahaina-maui-hit-by-directed-energy-weapons.html)
When that page appears, on the lower left of the video there's a little button called <>Embed.
Click that, and a window appears, at the bottom of which is https://rumble.com/embed/v34pd0k/?pub=4
Just take the part of that which is v34pd0k. Paste that in your post, highlight it, and click the 'green triangle' Rumble link in the formatting menu bar. (4th from the right). That does it.
:thumbsup:
Mari
15th August 2023, 18:47
Thanks Bill. I'm never sure what to do with Rumble vids :o
From Bill:
Dear Mari, you're not alone! :heart:
Here's exactly what to do:
Click the link on the main Rumble URL. (In this case, it's https://rumble.com/v37arng-aloha-dew-lahaina-maui-hit-by-directed-energy-weapons.html)
When that page appears, on the lower left of the video there's a little button called <>Embed.
Click that, and a window appears, at the bottom of which is https://rumble.com/embed/v34pd0k/?pub=4
Just take the part of that which is v34pd0k. Paste that in your post, highlight it, and click the 'green triangle' Rumble link in the formatting menu bar. (4th from the right). That does it.
:thumbsup:
Thanks Bill, I might just have a little play in the Sandbox :fingers crossed:
Raskolnikov
15th August 2023, 18:48
Interesting aside, has anyone reflected on the great fires which our official historical record says wiped out countless cities in America during the late 1800's/early 1900's like the 1871 fire of Chicago or the 1906 fire of San Francisco, seems nearly all cities great and small burned back then, that took with them so many great structures of the Old World which may not have been so old or long ago afterall? Just got the strange intuition that this is all connected somehow... Hmmm... Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out there.
Raskolnikov
15th August 2023, 18:54
This is a detailed analysis from A Plain Truth who many will remember extensively covered the Paradise fire.
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Correction: SixthSense uses much of A Plain Truth's material above. I think this is the original and he seems to be putting out more at Aplanetruth15 on YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp1c6wrd1js
Sue (Ayt)
15th August 2023, 19:09
Has it been taken down from Amazon? The link no longer works.
Bad link, my apologies. Fixed, and here it is: :thumbsup:
https://amazon.com/Fire-Fury-Implications-Climate-Change-ebook/dp/B0CFCTLXJJ
Ha - I was considering giving this a 1-star review myself, but when I clicked the review page, found this notice:
Amazon has noticed unusual reviewing activity on this product. Due to this activity, we have limited this product to verified purchase reviews.
Guess many are angry about this e-book.
Mark (Star Mariner)
15th August 2023, 19:14
Thanks Bill, got the link now. One reviewer suggests that the material was scraped from social media; and another it was written by ChapGPT. I'd be little surprised if both are true. Whatever the the case, it's extremely poor taste in my view to publish this 'book' so soon after the event. My favourite comment:
More propaganda from you know who. As the progressives say. Never let a crisis go to waste.
ErtheVessel
15th August 2023, 19:27
Have not read all the comments so this may have been mentioned already.
Per Doug's comment above regarding the police chief stating he didn't want people on the scene walking through corpse dust - according to this video:
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the new police chief of Maui, John Pelletier, was the "incident commander" in the investigation of the mass shooting at the country music festival in Las Vegas in 2017. This link from Yahoo News confirms that:
https://news.yahoo.com/no-stranger-tragedy-maui-police-184215049.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAH1mFb-IhTUDVi91oW1DK9JxXWD3KIODaXStD9huRqSLHXA5eKAP7wHaMxlt5I1Mp-UvlWDDNTNN2JwHn1BlCw2fdRcYubmbFgYH7nyhDMxTDtL-e9kofgenvvnpEbdLZGjybTCA5AbQIAqKiTuhNlr54lmKm7_2dDYwhi9ZAcBu
Does it mean anything? Maybe, maybe not.
Patient
15th August 2023, 20:01
Have not read all the comments so this may have been mentioned already.
Per Doug's comment above regarding the police chief stating he didn't want people on the scene walking through corpse dust - according to this video:
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the new police chief of Maui, John Pelletier, was the "incident commander" in the investigation of the mass shooting at the country music festival in Las Vegas in 2017. This link from Yahoo News confirms that:
https://news.yahoo.com/no-stranger-tragedy-maui-police-184215049.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAH1mFb-IhTUDVi91oW1DK9JxXWD3KIODaXStD9huRqSLHXA5eKAP7wHaMxlt5I1Mp-UvlWDDNTNN2JwHn1BlCw2fdRcYubmbFgYH7nyhDMxTDtL-e9kofgenvvnpEbdLZGjybTCA5AbQIAqKiTuhNlr54lmKm7_2dDYwhi9ZAcBu
Does it mean anything? Maybe, maybe not.
I think it says a lot. Another willing government official placed effectively for their purpose.
I would suggest that this police chief John Pelletier is one to watch - will he stay as police chief in Maui for much longer? I would be very suspicious of his next job placement. (Give it about 4-5 years time.)
Also in the video at the 6:11 mark there is a map that shows the fires starting points by satellite. I would expect that the aiming of a DEW weapon would be constructed to be easily used either by logging in specific GPS points or either manipulating a cursor over a mapped/targeted area. Regardless, the points of where the fires are shown to have started are consistently in straight lines. The argument will be that that is just how the satellite lined up the gathered info. But wouldn't that statement work for both sides of the argument?
Another point - as we see the tools of destruction available at the hands of the military and how effective they are, why is Nato spending so much money on fighting a war in Ukraine like it is the 1960's?
Oh sorry, it's not Nato right? ;)
Arcturian108
15th August 2023, 20:58
Folks,
I have spent several hours researching tweets about the Lahaina firestorm, and just reviewed several pages of the discussion here, to make sure that this hasn't already been posted. But now we know why officials intentionally left the electricity on in Lahaina: https://twitter.com/PEDO_HUNTER_LFG/status/1691534465489625088
Pris
15th August 2023, 21:31
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Yes a book by Dr. Miles Stones -'Milestone' -an achievement it seems ?
Fake name CIA operative? And, pushing man-made "climate change" as the root cause of the fire... Book comes out a day before the actual fire happened...
I don't have to be really smart to see the beacon being flashed here. This is so obvious... like people are deliberately being shown how orchestrated and fake everything is -- from "climate change" to exposing a pre-planned "climate disaster" as cover for a globalist land grab. Talk about super-fast turnaround for sleepy people with short attention spans... To me, it seems to be a glaringly obvious "object lesson" meant to wake people up.
seehas
15th August 2023, 21:38
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anyone remembers what happened 6 months ago? did they calibrate their toys for the big show?
Pris
15th August 2023, 21:53
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Folks,
I have spent several hours researching tweets about the Lahaina firestorm, and just reviewed several pages of the discussion here, to make sure that this hasn't already been posted. But now we know why officials intentionally left the electricity on in Lahaina: https://twitter.com/PEDO_HUNTER_LFG/status/1691534465489625088
Ohhh... I wouldn't be surprised this is exactly what happened. If I remember, there was a story of a California neighborhood that went kaboom several years back and the fire department was instructed to hide the Smart Meter evidence... I've been against Smart Meters from day one when these things first got approved and "deployed" across multiple nations at the same time with no health and safety oversight and were forced onto businesses and homes despite major legitimate concerns and public pushback. That was my "precipice" moment.
So, basically, the interconnected Smart Meters are bombs on people's homes and businesses that can be deliberately "set off" at any time. They can destroy your home and neighborhood with the push of a button. The great part is you'll be blamed for it because, after all, you are supposedly the cause of "climate change", right? Makes total sense to me.
norman
15th August 2023, 22:28
Maui Wildfires and the Theft of Sacred Hawaiian Land
Reese Report
https://rumble.com/v37n059-maui-wildfires-and-the-theft-of-sacred-hawaiian-land.html
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Pris
15th August 2023, 22:29
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Trump shares his thoughts on the destructive, tragic Maui fire that's killed so many. He also doesn't seem to buy "climate change" as the excuse for this disaster. Then, Trump calls out Biden for not wanting to comment on the fire and for Biden smiling when he said it. Trump shows how cold and uncaring Biden is by reminding everyone how Biden ignored the East Palestine train derailment disaster in the same manner.
"I would like to express my sympathy and warmest regards to the people of Hawaii…" - Donald J. Trump
My sympathy and warmest regards to the people of Hawaii
https://rumble.com/v37midi-my-sympathy-and-warmest-regards-to-the-people-of-hawaii.html
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Raskolnikov
15th August 2023, 22:35
been against Smart Meters from day one when these things first got approved and "deployed" across multiple nations at the same time with no health and safety oversight and were forced onto businesses and homes despite major legitimate concerns and public pushback
Don't get me started on Smart Meters. I lived in San Francisco when they began putting up smart meter arrays in apartment complexes, we're talking dozens right on the other side of someone's living or bedroom, and then massive rooftop antennas right over condos and apartments. I had an emp meter and that town lit up. You know where it was the worst? Grace Cathedral and Huntington Park across the street from Top of the Mark. Before they put up the antennas on our corner, they put up small flyers around the area giving public notice. So I went to the meeting armed with the proper info and what a bleepshow. They'd paid a few obviously unstable homeless people to voice their support so that when I tried to give the stats they all became unhinged. I felt like I'd walked into an insane asylum. "This is a public meeting?" I thought. I couldn't get a word in edgewise and after many attempts gave it up and went home. The game is rigged. Then came the Smart Cell on the lamp post right outside our living room window, our cat died soon after because he always laid in that window, and we got outta there.
Good motto to live by: "If it's Smart, avoid it like the plague."
Raskolnikov
15th August 2023, 23:51
Firefighters saying the water was cut.
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Phoenix1304
15th August 2023, 23:51
I did notice Biden’s choice of words and if anything, it was the decider for me. The smart arses love to take the proverbial piss. So many authentic locals putting out vids about the lies, the high death toll, how they were redirected back into the fires, no-one knew what was going on, and all that covered already in this thread.
All the signs point to another sick cabal play. The date, the failed warning system, the frustrations with the islanders who wouldn’t sell, Oprah building a bunker on her property and so many of the usual suspects involved here. Obama calling on the nation to donate to the Red Cross (who were given millions for Haiti, spent 25% on admin and built 6 houses and refused to say where the rest went). Sick, so very sick of these beasts. I also have a very soft spot for Hawaii, though I spent my 6 months there on the big island.
Now this from Geller, they hoping to get further mileage for the alien invasion narrative as well out of this tragedy? dear God when and how do we bring theses devils down? The comments on this twitter thread are an indication of how very confused and diverse public opinion is about all of it. Personally, I’m just sick of the stinking fish.
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If you can’t link to X (twitter) to see the thread here’s a copy\paste of his full tweet.
"My dear friends someone from US just sent me this! It is crazy crazy!!!
They allege that the recent, devastating fires that have been happening around the world could be the result of what they call Direct Energy Weapons (DEW), which perhaps fire laser like energy from orbiting satellites.
Is this even possible?
Do such weapons even exist?
What do you think?
True? False?
You tell me!!
Here is the message I received:
RE: DEW ATTACKS ON HAWAII, CORFU, PORTUGAL ET AL…
EVIDENCE OF ALIEN INTERVENTION...THE REAL INVASION IS ONGOING AND GOES BACK EONS…
THIS IS AN ATTACK. Either our military is targeting homes and places where humans live in order to eradicate some kind of infestation, or this is an attack on some hidden threat within the areas of forest and homes… The beams appear to come from some kind of craft directly down.
THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ALIEN INVASION… FROM THE SKIES. So, if we are under attack if it was another country attacking us it would be a CLEAR ACT OF WAR… But if there is something hidden they are attacking and it is our military this indicates they are NOT TELLING US what it is!
IF IT IS OUR MILITARY they are going after this without regard to warning humans in advance other than using the COVER OF A STORM of some kind… in advance of the attacks.
REGARDING attacks on MAUI, HAWAII, CORFU, PORTUGAL ETC It makes no sense as a land-grab relocation effort and it has a strange non-random randomness.
WHY isn’t the military telling people what is going on? These DEW actions lend themselves to an alien invasion scenario. #ufo #uap #alien #pentagon #gov”
Inversion
15th August 2023, 23:52
There's a lot of looting going on after the fires. The people there are in survival mode.
Hal Turner Radio Show (https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/desperate-residents-are-looting-businesses-and-robbing-people-at-gunpoint-maui-locals-say)
Desperate survivors of the Lahaina, Hawaii fires are looting and robbing people at gunpoint as they wait for food and shelter in the aftermath of the Maui wildfires, Hawaiian locals said.
"There's some police presence. There's some small military presence, but at night people are being robbed at gunpoint," co-owner of a Lāhainā bar called The Dirty Monkey, Matt Robb, told Business Insider.
Robb added: "People are raped and pillaged. I mean, they're going through houses — and then by day it's hunky-dory. So where is the support? I don't think our government and our leaders, at this point, know how to handle this or what to do."
Media outlets reached out to the County of Maui for information about the alleged looting but did not hear back by time of publication.
Residents spoke to local news outlets as they await rescue crews to deliver food, water, diapers, and other necessities, many who lost everything are growing desperate.
Owner of restaurant Coconut Caboose Jeremy Aganos, one of the businesses that survived the fires, told KITV it is "utter chaos" for those seeking aid. His business was attacked by looters, he said.
Aganos set up a GoFundMe for the restaurant's losses.
Another Lahaina resident, Barrett Procell, told the news station he and his wife are now homeless and wearing donated clothes. He said he understands the desperate measures some Lahaina survivors are taking.
"When your children are here starving after almost burning to death and the police won’t let people drive in to give you necessities, you may turn to desperate measures. It is unfortunate people are turning to looting right now, but it’s about helping them and not villainizing them," he said.
An Oregon resident who flew in to provide aid to residents was robbed at gunpoint soon after his arrival, KITV reported.
One user of X, formerly Twitter, wrote Sunday: "Looting happening in Lahaina town. The only thing left from my uncles house was a fireproof safe. Family went to check on the property yesterday only to find the safe has been pried open the last of their possessions gone."
Another user wrote Friday that "looting is out of control."
After the wildfire ravaged Lahaina last week, the aftermath revealed a landscape of destruction.
Thousands of structures were lost, forcing residents to evacuate. Only 3% of the search zone has been combed through by cadaver dogs and crews amidst the ruins, according to Maui Police Chief John Pelletier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bThcXQbXQE
82,224 views Aug 14, 2023
Some people on Lahaina say many are robbed left and right -- for supplies like food and clothing. They blame it on the lack of resources coming into Lahaina.
palehorse
16th August 2023, 04:37
That's beyond words to describe how terrible it is.
Sorry I didn't read the entire thread, but I will.
It seems pretty much on purpose operation to clean up the ground remove those folks from the land, and build there first model of smart city on US soil... ???
Seem like more "accidents" like this will happen everywhere, they are separating the world into sectors and will start building their slavery centers (aka smart cities).
DNA
16th August 2023, 10:15
Wow,,, Democrat Governor of Hawaii stated that the state will aquire all of the land that was burned in the fires.
Wow!!! Agenda 🕑 21x 21st
Just what we've been saying
https://www.infowars.com/posts/govt-will-move-in-to-acquire-maui-land-destroyed-in-fires-says-dem-hawaii-governor/
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Eric J (Viking)
16th August 2023, 11:54
Submitted by Maui Massacre Investigation Team
State of the Nation
Just as We the People did in the aftermath of 9/11…..
Just as We the People did throughout the ongoing Covid Plandemic……
Just as We the People did since the assassination of JFK……
We the People will investigate … and investigate … and investigate
the pre-planned Maui Massacre with undeterrable resolve and an
implacable vengeance.
Toward that end, we ask that anyone who possesses hard evidence of any type of crime committed on Maui during, prior to, and/or after the geoengineered Maui firestorms, please send a notice to the following email address.
maui_investigation@proton.me
Please, do NOT send the actual proof of criminal activity!
Only send a notice to the following email address, as well as notices to all of your trusted friends an insurance policy against the foul play that every whistleblower now experiences in 2023.
The highly confidential process and procedure for how all hard evidence and incriminating proof will be handled and managed has yet to be worked out.
However, in the meantime, if you are on the ground in Maui, or anywhere near Maui in Hawaii, please continue to investigate and research all that you practically can.
We know the sacrifice has been great, but your efforts will undoubtedly produce an awesome outcome.
Thank you!
Maui Massacre Investigation Team
c/o State of the Nation
August 16, 2023
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=180929
Viking
Eric J (Viking)
16th August 2023, 12:05
Oprah Winfrey INVESTIGATED for Maui Fires! (video)
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=180906
Viking
palehorse
16th August 2023, 12:18
Include Bezos and many others in the list too
seehas
16th August 2023, 13:11
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3:27 - "If you put a firetruck in the way of the flames that move with a thousand miles per hour ... "
Strong 911 reminder, people get programed to belive in the super powers of fire
Raskolnikov
16th August 2023, 15:17
https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1691346363844337664?s=20
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We all know Biden didn't write that, the arrogant smucks are sending themselves winks and nods, and we know it was a deliberate attack, the celebrity land grabbers and the blockaides and obstructive behavior of the cops, FEMA, and Red Cross have made that gut-stenchingly obvious - this system - the gears running this world - needs a complete overhaul.
Arcturian108
16th August 2023, 15:26
Submitted by Maui Massacre Investigation Team
State of the Nation
Just as We the People did in the aftermath of 9/11…..
Just as We the People did throughout the ongoing Covid Plandemic……
Just as We the People did since the assassination of JFK……
We the People will investigate … and investigate … and investigate
the pre-planned Maui Massacre with undeterrable resolve and an
implacable vengeance.
Toward that end, we ask that anyone who possesses hard evidence of any type of crime committed on Maui during, prior to, and/or after the geoengineered Maui firestorms, please send a notice to the following email address.
maui_investigation@proton.me
Please, do NOT send the actual proof of criminal activity!
Only send a notice to the following email address, as well as notices to all of your trusted friends an insurance policy against the foul play that every whistleblower now experiences in 2023.
The highly confidential process and procedure for how all hard evidence and incriminating proof will be handled and managed has yet to be worked out.
However, in the meantime, if you are on the ground in Maui, or anywhere near Maui in Hawaii, please continue to investigate and research all that you practically can.
We know the sacrifice has been great, but your efforts will undoubtedly produce an awesome outcome.
Thank you!
Maui Massacre Investigation Team
c/o State of the Nation
August 16, 2023
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=180929
Viking
How can we know that this group that is collecting this information is legit? I worry about controlled opposition burying evidence.
Ravenlocke
16th August 2023, 15:30
This whole incident is so much, so similar to the Paradise fire. It brings back very painful memories of that incident that won’t go away. Having lived there before the fire I knew neighbors and people around town, it was horrible to watch the town burn and to see the destruction in the aftermath. The house we lived in is gone, our whole street is gone, the neighborhood is just gone…They said it was the direction of the wind which caused it to spread quickly like a wave from one side to the other. They said PGE did not turn the electricity off. The sheriff had no time to warn people to flee. I remember the 55+ trailer park just below where we lived was all burnt to the ground. They told us later the death toll was 80+. Yet I saw the sheriffs list of missing people which was later explained as people that had moved away or went to family elsewhere.
They did charge PGE for manslaughter later and fined them but all that did is raise the rates to their customers. It doesn’t bring back the victims. PGE were also I think responsible for the explosion I think it was in San Bruno, CA.
And before Paradise I watched the town of Weed burn down. Most of those people worked at the mill which they said is where the fire started.
That was all heart wrenching but here again another town gone….loss of life…so much like before and so shocking…:sad::sad:
Sorry back to topic.
arwen
16th August 2023, 15:45
Ravenlocke - yes, me too, and although I was not there, it reminds me of Savannah, Avalon member, who lost everything in the Paradise fire, including her cat, and passed away not that long after - I think a year or so later. Most people simply cannot recover from such a devastating loss. And this one in Maui stinks to high heaven.
Post update: I got the name wrong of the beloved Avalon admin - her name was Sierra - thankfully Mark corrected that error with links to her story here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-town--Lahaina--has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1572433&viewfull=1#post1572433)
Raskolnikov
16th August 2023, 17:25
There appear to be many things at play here - the significant date, the plan to make Hawaii the first completely green state run by AI (the Smart Agenda 2030), the clearing of the land conveniently bypassing all troublesome land contracts and disputes with locals, the buying it back for pennies on the dollar, the murder and the sacrifice, etc. It sounds like we're also going to find that this was a massive child sacrifice since the schools were closed and all the children remained home, the homes that were dustified. I understand we'll lose a lot of people when bringing up this topic but I figured here... It needs to be said. The picture of Oprah on her hill overlooking the destruction (sacrifice) is very unsettling to me. It reminds me of old feudalism, the pictures of castles on the hill with dungeons, maybe too many movies, I don't know, but wtf?
Enjoyed this man's take on the situation:
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Raskolnikov
16th August 2023, 17:35
Editor of Maui Times voices her frustration:
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Mark (Star Mariner)
16th August 2023, 18:09
Ravenlocke - yes, me too, and although I was not there, it reminds me of Savannah, Avalon member, who lost everything in the Paradise fire, including her cat, and passed away not that long after - I think a year or so later.
That was former admin Sierra (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?3634-Sierra), not Savannah, but that's correct, she was a victim of that fire (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105014-Avalon-Family-Member-Sierra-lost-everything-Go-Fund-Me&highlight=sierra), lost everything in it, and did indeed pass away. That was a couple of years ago (and was announced here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92705-Acknowledging-and-honoring-Avalon-members-who-have-passed&p=1438483&viewfull=1#post1438483)).
arwen
16th August 2023, 18:33
Ravenlocke - yes, me too, and although I was not there, it reminds me of Savannah, Avalon member, who lost everything in the Paradise fire, including her cat, and passed away not that long after - I think a year or so later.
That was former admin Sierra (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?3634-Sierra), not Savannah, but that's correct, she was a victim of that fire (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105014-Avalon-Family-Member-Sierra-lost-everything-Go-Fund-Me&highlight=sierra), lost everything in it, and did indeed pass away. That was a couple of years ago (and was announced here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92705-Acknowledging-and-honoring-Avalon-members-who-have-passed&p=1438483&viewfull=1#post1438483)).
Thank you for the correction! Sorry I did not get her Avalon name right - yes, Sierra. What happened to her was something that haunted many of us for a long time.
Raskolnikov
16th August 2023, 19:28
Alright, this is heartwrenching, and goes to what I was saying earlier about the children:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLLt4QJtqg
Patient
16th August 2023, 20:03
idKZTWrtgl0
anyone remembers what happened 6 months ago? did they calibrate their toys for the big show?
This is not intended to disprove or to go against this video, but my question is why do we not see more videos or pics showing this type of laser mapping? Is it new tech that they are using? Granted, it is not something that would give you enough time to get out your camera.
I would expect that they would want to use a laser that is more discreet.
Or this could have been an intentional display to contribute to a narrative TPTB are in the process of building.
Tam
16th August 2023, 20:11
Hello everyone,
I’ve been following this fire closely since it first started burning. I initially caught it when someone uploaded a video on TikTok of a power line being blown over by gale force winds, and thought “That can’t end well”.
I hate to be a contrarian, but it is my opinion (currently) that this fire is not the result of a DEW like 9/11 was.
This could change as more information comes to light, but I’ve been going over everything I could get my hands on with a fine tooth comb and I just don’t see any clear-cut, strong evidence.
Instead, I think this is just the latest in an endless list of incidents that is more or less the result of gross negligence and good old fashioned incompetence. Nothing overtly planned, nothing particularly conspiratorial, just a long series of human failures. Failures that arose from a fundamentally broken and dysfunctional system. As far as the aftermath goes, well, that’s just human greed at play yet again.
To be absolutely clear, this isn’t to say that there isn’t a monumental amount of responsibility and blood on the hands of those in power and the very wealthy elite. The onus, as far as I’m concerned, is purely on them. There is 0 reason why this should have happened, it was ENTIRELY preventable. I’m also not saying that this was purely accidental; I think this is simply mores a crime of opportunity, rather than something that was carefully premeditated.
I think it’s important in times of crises like this not to let our critical thinking be clouded by (completely justified) emotions of anger, sorrow, bitterness, and hysteria.
One should never forget, that in this technocratic era of misinformation and disinformation, it’s all too easy to jump on a bandwagon of hearsay, rumor, etc. Seeing is no longer believing when it is so incredibly easy to VERY convincingly doctor a phot, tweet, video, etc. AI has only made this much, much worse.
Just something to keep in mind.
Furthermore, a trend I’ve noticed is people generally concluding, more or less immediately, that X Incident is a conspiracy, every single time one takes place.
I completely understand where this impulse comes from, but I think it’s important to recognize that nobody, including oneself, is immune from ingrained biases, and that the slope is always slippery when you start to look for mass orchestration with the same fervor as a priest searches for demonic influence. Objectivity is lost.
Yes, conspiracies are very real. Yes, there are small groups of very powerful and wealthy people who have very sweeping control over the world’s resources and like to ensure certain outcomes play out.
But sometimes, sh*t happens and systems fail just because they’re broken, not because an invisible puppet master is gleefully plucking at hidden strings. And they’re broken because people on the whole tend more towards cutting corners, saving time, and saving money. At all costs.
This seems to me to be the tragic result of exactly that, and now that the damage has been done.
To reiterate, the primary thing I’m arguing against here is that a DEW was used, NOT that there wasn’t anything fishy going on during and after the fire.
I completely believe that there were conditions that were deliberately met/ignored that made these fires as widespread and devastating as they were. But there is a far cry between that, and someone planning this in advance and zapping Lahaina with a weapon of mass destruction.
thepainterdoug
16th August 2023, 20:11
Im seeing a good amount posted here but not all on this entire tragedy, I really dont know what happened.
But something just doesnt feel right to me beyond the D E W debate and a natural event question.
The burned, the wounded, the missing, the families , the children etc , where are they? , where are their voices, where are the reports? the countless cell phone videos and images that should be there?
Either everyone died in these fires or many got out ?
maybe its just me, but what is it that doesnt add up here?
Tam
16th August 2023, 20:14
Im seeing a good amount posted here but not all on this entire tragedy, I really dont know what happened.
But something just doesnt feel right to me beyond the D E W debate and a natural event question.
The burned, the wounded, the missing, the families , the children etc , where are they? , where are their voices, where are the reports? the countless cell phone videos and images that should be there?
Either everyone died in these fires or many got out ?
maybe its just me, but what is it that doesnt add up here?
There's actually a lot of people on TikTok of all places posting what little bits of footage they can. The problem is that the entire island is on lockdown and the fire took out their power, internet, etc.
As far as the dead, well, there's a lot of rubble to go through. Most tragically died in their cars while trying to escape.
Tam
16th August 2023, 20:22
I'm really not convinced this was the result of a DEW. I'll present my case in a Q&A format, for simplicity. I welcome any debate/pushback. I'm just trying to be a little more logical before leaping to conclusions.
1) Why did cars melt but surrounding trees were left intact?
Cars are highly flammable because of all of the plastic and the gasoline within their tanks. Gasoline fires remain more or less localized; this is the reason why your house doesn’t burn to the ground every time you cook (if you have a gas stove). The trees didn’t burn because they didn’t carry gallons and gallons of gasoline.
Trees also contain lots of water and sap, which is what allows them to withstand fire. A tree rarely burns to ash. Instead it becomes charcoal, which is exactly what we’re seeing here.
2) What were the circles of fire in that drone/plane footage?
Fires burn in a ring. That’s how fire works. You set fire to a grassy field, and it will spread in all directions at once.
3) What was the fire that was spreading in a straight line across the asphalt?
Burning ash, carried by wind. I’ve witnessed this exact thing firsthand just last week when a brushfire broke out that ended up spreading like, well, wildfire. Nearly lost my apartment. I saw 40 foot flames not 200 feet from me. I witnessed flames JUMP across a highway, while random houses started catching. Ash is HOT. Ash catches fire. Winds created by the fires push little microburst gales in all different directions.
In a neighborhood, this means that the winds move in a gridlike pattern. Wind is like a liquid, it follows the shape of its surroundings. Ever been in a wind tunnel created from a long avenue of buildings? That’s exactly what that was.
4) Why were there multiple fires at once?
Even a standard breeze can carry a single ember more than a quarter of a mile. An ember will catch fire to anything, especially in a drier environment like brush or wood homes. As mentioned earlier, fire creates its own wind. This means plenty of places for other fires to start all within short succession. It was VERY windy Maui the day the fires broke out.
5) What were the explosions?
Gas tanks in cars, oxygen tanks in dive shops, stoves in homes, etc.
6) Why was the power out right before the fires started?
Gale-force winds knocked over power lines. No power lines, no power. This one, I’ll admit, is more iffy. We need a better idea of the timelines here.
7) Why was the water out?
Water comes from pumps, which rely on electricity to work. If the power is out from downed or burning lines, you get no water. It’s as simple as that. I scoured the internet for reports of the water being out long before the fires broke out, and found none. All of the reports of no water came AFTER Lahaina started burning.
8) Why were there no evacuation notices/radio silence from emergency services?
These people know they’re all complicit through sheer negligence and incompetence, and thus they’re all keeping their mouths shut. It’s just plain cowardice, meant as a CYA to avoid making things worse in the slew of lawsuits that are soon to come. Shameful and disgusting, but this is what happens when leadership is corrupt to the core and institutions run by greedy charlatans.
9) How was the ocean on fire?
Burning ash settles in layers on top of the water, like frosting on a cake. Flaming debris and oil from boats also ends up in the ocean and acts as kindling.
10) How were celebrity homes spared, while poorer neighborhoods burned to the ground?
Celebrity homes are waterfront. Waterfront homes are at much lower risk of catching fire (unless the fire originates from your own house of course) due to higher moisture level in the air and prevailing winds from the ocean pushing the fire away from houses. There were some larger homes burned, and this is simply due to the unpredictable wind patterns seen in wildfires.
Mansions are far apart and built of better materials, thus the fire spreads less easily. Oprah’s shameful estate, for example, sits on 2,000 acres. That’s a lot of space that needs to burn before her house gets taken out.
There’s a reason why the rich build and buy homes in certain areas and with certain materials, and why these are priced at a premium.
Furthermore, poorer neighborhoods = more packed neighborhoods, with homes crammed closer together, all built of cheaper materials. A matchbox situation.
It’s a tragic tale as old as time that the poor are the ones that lose and suffer the most during natural disasters.
11) Why are real estate developers, Bezos, etc. are already offering money?
Just standard human greed, these people are shameless vultures. They didn’t get to be billionaires because of charity, honesty, and compassion for their fellows. They will never let a good crisis go to waste, especially if it gets to line their pockets.
12) How was an eBook written so quickly?
Same as above, human greed. AI also makes this easier than ever. I could get a novel/book about anything I like published with the help of ChatGPT in less than 48 hours, and that includes me proofreading/editing. People are underestimating the power of AI on so many different levels, and GPT-5 is just beginning. There’s going to be a lot more crap like this.
Again, I’m not saying there aren’t people directly responsible for this who don’t stand to benefit highly from this horrific situation. But DEW? I don’t know.
JackMcThorn
16th August 2023, 20:30
I'm really not convinced this was the result of a DEW. I'll present my case in a Q&A format, for simplicity. I welcome any debate/pushback. I'm just trying to be a little more logical before leaping to conclusions...
Thank you for your logical insights. Your points are all sound thinking. The power company said it did not shut power due to the need to operate pumps. I still think that is a CYA comment.
The internet is a mess and does not serve the alt-community at times like these. PA should always be striving to be the example and sound thinking and common sense should be prevailing features.
Tam
16th August 2023, 20:35
I completely agree on all points. I think it's all too easy to just let the anger work you up and go with the conspiracy angle, especially since so often, there are conspiracies at play.
But we aren't doing anybody any favors, least of all ourselves, when we act this way. We need to be more careful and measured, and less sensational, erratic, and reactive.
This is also the best way to organize and instill true change. Remember, the powers that be want us scrambling around like ants. It's easier to control us that way.
thepainterdoug
16th August 2023, 20:45
Tam, well said. It could of just been a perfect storm of catastrophic conditions and situations that all added up. I have infered on earlier posts my question as well. A downed power line ignites the ground and wind fans it into an inferno . That would be just enought in one area much less all the other things exploding, sparking, and blowing around
And much like footage from a legit mid west Tornado, there are abberations and anamolies, cars flying thru the air while a teacup sits still untouched. Chaos theory.
What's more important is perception, and our public perception after so much lying to us is total mistrust in all official and gov agency. its quite troubling and sad.
again, I dont know what happened and the truth may be layers buried before anyone hears and understands it
seehas
16th August 2023, 21:25
Tam, well said. It could of just been a perfect storm of catastrophic conditions and situations that all added up. I have infered on earlier posts my question as well. A downed power line ignites the ground and wind fans it into an inferno . That would be just enought in one area much less all the other things exploding, sparking, and blowing around
And much like footage from a legit mid west Tornado, there are abberations and anamolies, cars flying thru the air while a teacup sits still untouched. Chaos theory.
What's more important is perception, and our public perception after so much lying to us is total mistrust in all official and gov agency. its quite troubling and sad.
again, I dont know what happened and the truth may be layers buried before anyone hears and understands it
to be honest there is just to much video evidence that the official version is a joke, molten engines and boats out on the see burning all the trees standing, the perfect circles of fire in the woods visible from chopper videos no way that this is natural if you belive this then the jet fuel theory of 911 might also makes sense
Rizotto
16th August 2023, 21:35
Just a question: there are several photos of molten metal having flowed from under burned cars in these fires. This molten metal looks silvery in all of the photos I've seen. Melted aluminium looks silvery, while melted steel looks red, and turns brown when cooled. Aluminium will melt at much lower temperatures than steel. Correct?
Ewan
16th August 2023, 21:38
I honestly don't know what to think of anything anymore. Almost every accident/disaster (stupid word to use if you understand the root ot the word) ends up being spun as a conspiracy.
Maybe this is not an accident (that it suggested as a conspiracy) but rather by design. The goal is to leave people not believing anything?
seehas
16th August 2023, 21:42
Just a question: there are several photos of molten metal having flowed from under burned cars in these fires. This molten metal looks silvery in all of the photos I've seen. Melted aluminium looks silvery, while melted steel looks red, and turns brown when cooled. Aluminium will melt at much lower temperatures than steel. Correct?
Aluminium has close to 700degree melting point and there is no way that cars that are far far away from any structure or other burning objects generated that kind of heat to pulverize complete engine blocks and ive seen several pictures and videos of these kind of cars let alone the boats out on the ocean - on several videos you can see how the fire was spreading it was like if the heat was absorbed by metalic objects, there are even videos from today where they search destroyed houses and in these houses everything went to dust but some wood parts are untouched, how is that possible in a normal fire? it isnt ... this is exactly what DEW does
seehas
16th August 2023, 21:52
I honestly don't know what to think of anything anymore. Almost every accident/disaster (stupid word to use if you understand the root ot the word) ends up being spun as a conspiracy.
Maybe this is not an accident (that it suggested as a conspiracy) but rather by design. The goal is to leave people not believing anything?
Im not the person to see in every detail a "conspiracy" but nothing of the maui fire official version adds up i dont even know where to start here, the 80mph winds carrying the firestorm only burned cars and houses, somehow a magical version of fire 2.0 that doesnt harm wood and trees
maybe the trees are artificial how would they survive 700degree + heat? :facemask:
https://i.ibb.co/hMjV3bC/trees.jpg
Ewan
16th August 2023, 22:07
I honestly don't know what to think of anything anymore. Almost every accident/disaster (stupid word to use if you understand the root ot the word) ends up being spun as a conspiracy.
Maybe this is not an accident (that it is suggested as a conspiracy) but rather by design. The goal is to leave people not believing anything?
Im not the person to see in every detail a "conspiracy" but nothing of the maui fire official version adds up i dont even know where to start here, the 80mph winds carrying the firestorm only burned cars and houses, somehow a magical version of fire 2.0 that doesnt harm wood and trees
maybe the trees are artificial how would they survive 700degree + heat? :facemask:
https://i.ibb.co/hMjV3bC/trees.jpg
Hi seehas,
Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting you were seeing a conspiracy where there was none. I was talking more broadly that it is difficult to know what the hell is going on in any unfolding events these days and you can't really latch onto anything with certainty.
However, given the picture you posted in the post directly above immediately made me think of the cars near the WTC on 9/11
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xGYy7Nki1XQ/maxresdefault.jpg
Here is another photo from Maui that seems to make no sense. With no structures around and concrete below, water to one side?
https://media.notthebee.com/articles/64d4d73d4283964d4d73d4283a.jpg
What exactly burned those cars to such a degree?
Inversion
16th August 2023, 22:28
There appear to be many things at play here - the significant date, the plan to make Hawaii the first completely green state run by AI (the Smart Agenda 2030), the clearing of the land conveniently bypassing all troublesome land contracts and disputes with locals, the buying it back for pennies on the dollar, the murder and the sacrifice, etc. It sounds like we're also going to find that this was a massive child sacrifice since the schools were closed and all the children remained home, the homes that were dustified. I understand we'll lose a lot of people when bringing up this topic but I figured here... It needs to be said. The picture of Oprah on her hill overlooking the destruction (sacrifice) is very unsettling to me. It reminds me of old feudalism, the pictures of castles on the hill with dungeons, maybe too many movies, I don't know, but wtf?
I find it odd that the governor of Hawaii name is Josh Green (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Green_(politician)). His birthday is 02/11 which is a three-digit prime, the police code for robbery and he's a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. There's an alleged Nazi location in Antarctica called Base (https://www.quora.com/Was-Base-211-of-the-Nazis-in-Antarctica-destroyed-by-Operation-Highjump-in-1947) 211. There's a video in this link (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/08/16/hawaii-gov-in-aftermath-of-deadly-maui-wildfires-im-already-thinking-of-ways-for-state-to-acquire-that-land/) where he said he's already thinking of ways to acquire that land. The next day he walks back his statement in the below video.
9 questions that we should all be asking about the catastrophic fires in Hawaii (http://endoftheamericandream.com/9-questions-that-we-should-all-be-asking-about-the-catastrophic-fires-in-hawaii/)
Green (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_lending) lending refers to a lending dependent on environmental criteria for the planned use of funds. It is part of the wider sustainable investing and aims to reduce the impact on the environment of new lending activities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGYHK9f-P_g
871 views Aug 16, 2023
Hawaii Governor Josh Green vowed to place legal barriers to prevent developers from buying land from wildfire-ravaged Maui.
Tam
16th August 2023, 23:05
Fuel. Fuel burned those cars to such a degree, which includes melting the aluminum.
A car fire burns at north of 1,500 degrees F/850 degrees C. The melting point of aluminum is 1,221F/660.3C.
Boats are even more flammable than cars, because they're generally either lightweight or hollow and made of wood. It's important to also bear in mind that in many areas, the ocean was coated in a thick layer of ash, which only refracts the heat back upwards and creates a baking effect.
I'm not trying to be harsh or bark authoritatively here, I'm just stating facts.
Let's look at each photo on this page.
In the photo where half of the row of cars melted and the others are relatively intact, that could be a simple matter of the wind direction. More on that later.
In the photo where the cars near the ocean are burned to husks, the proximity of the ocean didn't save them because of the ash on the water and the residual heat from the dense web of buildings in the immediate area.
The mansions that were spared in photos earlier in this thread had PLENTY of space between them, behind them was just grass and a mountain, with a road devoid of cars since they're not in high traffic areas. Any embers that would have made their way over, for the most part, would have been likely cooled by the moisture in the ocean air. There weren't any nearby buildings or packed neighborhoods to really bake the place like it did downtown Lahaina or in the poorer housing areas.
In all photos the trees are desiccated. Burned trees rarely become ash. They become charcoal. Charcoal retains its shape, and the roots are what hold the bulk of the tree up. There isn't any crazy mystery as to how the trees held up, it's just basic thermodynamics. If they still had leaves and bird nests with babies in them, I'd in full agreement that something really strange is happening, and that DEW could be the cause.
But that's just not what we're seeing.
Fires are a very strange phenomenon; ask any firefighter, especially the ones that work in wildfires, and they'll tell you it's almost intelligent, alive. It moves around. It doesn't burn predictably. This is part of what makes a fire so hard to contain.
Let me share a little story, that helps corroborate my point earlier about wind direction.
Exactly one week ago from the time I wrote this, a fire broke out half a mile from where I live and am typing this post from now. I saw it start, I saw it spread, I saw it expand so fast it would take your breath away. I saw the way the pillar of smoke lit trees downwind of it and across the highway on fire, and how one tree burned another like dominoes. I watched an entire building burn to the ground in 15 minutes.
That same fire, by sheer dumb luck, missed my apartment because I lived upwind of it. The poor people that lived in the complex South of mine lost everything. The neighborhood right behind theirs, and I quite literally mean a stone's throw away, was completely spared. A swathe of acreage that was several blocks wide. Not a single bush on fire. If you saw aerial footage of this, you would be floored. You would ask yourself how such a thing was possible. Some of these people shared a wall that divided the neighborhood from the apartment complex.
What the fire did burn, however, was part of a strip mall a quarter mile past it and across an 8-lane highway.
Everyone who either lost their home or didn't was purely at the mercy of the wind. That and where some trees and bushes happened to be.
Nature is a terrifying force. Poor urban planning and dense population has been a disaster waiting to happen for a lot of the US. If Phoenix or Houston were to catch fire, it could be disastrous, fast. It's just a matter of the right conditions being met.
Raskolnikov
16th August 2023, 23:17
First off, thanks Tam for your solid input, unlike our current media landscape these days we should always welcome both points of view, and as JackMcThorn aptly stated, "PA should always be striving to be the example and sound thinking and common sense should be prevailing features." My opinion on this matter is slightly skewed after seeing the many other fires like 911 and Paradise where the impossible happened:
https://www.woodtv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2020/06/Paradise-Calif.-wildfire-AP-120318.jpg?w=1920&h=1080&crop=1
so you'll have to excuse me for my cynicism here. And after hearing the many eye-witnesses saying it was a directed energy attack I find myself siding with them. "I'm not a scientist," (queue the laugh track) so I can't comment on all the scientific data, but I will say that after all the small businesses that were wiped out during covid, and the countless deaths both then and now on Maui, it appears to me that this is just them playing fast and loose and "laser-focused," and more and more I find myself siding with this sound advice:
kYEED6sE5SYo
thepainterdoug
16th August 2023, 23:25
Its not a matter of what I believe? its a matter of asking good questions and questioning my own pre set biases and beliefs.
AS i said and I WILL REPEAT
I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
seehas
16th August 2023, 23:38
First off, thanks Tam for your solid input, unlike our current media landscape these days we should always welcome both points of view, and as JackMcThorn aptly stated, "PA should always be striving to be the example and sound thinking and common sense should be prevailing features." My opinion on this matter is slightly skewed after seeing the many other fires like 911 and Paradise where the impossible happened:
https://www.woodtv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2020/06/Paradise-Calif.-wildfire-AP-120318.jpg?w=1920&h=1080&crop=1
so you'll have to excuse me for my cynicism here. And after hearing the many eye-witnesses saying it was a directed energy attack I find myself siding with them. "I'm not a scientist," (queue the laugh track) so I can't comment on all the scientific data, but I will say that after all the small businesses that were wiped out during covid, and the countless deaths both then and now on Maui, it appears to me that this is just them playing fast and loose and "laser-focused," and more and more I find myself siding with this sound advice:
kYEED6sE5SYo
alot of green charcoal trees on that picture, beautiful :fire:
that picture alone tells the bull**** story, all the houses are pure DUST that means any bigger metal/aluminium parts just vaporized/melted there and these houses are circled by "GREEN" trees, i have firefighters in my family and i dont even need to be one of them to understand that the official story is not possible
i dont care if it was a DEW or green humanoids did a prayer at noon, these pictures are not able to be explained by the official storyline.
as i said before the official storyline of the maui fire is as much close to physics as the jetfuel tale of 911
Satori
17th August 2023, 00:22
First off, thanks Tam for your solid input, unlike our current media landscape these days we should always welcome both points of view, and as JackMcThorn aptly stated, "PA should always be striving to be the example and sound thinking and common sense should be prevailing features." My opinion on this matter is slightly skewed after seeing the many other fires like 911 and Paradise where the impossible happened:
https://www.woodtv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2020/06/Paradise-Calif.-wildfire-AP-120318.jpg?w=1920&h=1080&crop=1
so you'll have to excuse me for my cynicism here. And after hearing the many eye-witnesses saying it was a directed energy attack I find myself siding with them. "I'm not a scientist," (queue the laugh track) so I can't comment on all the scientific data, but I will say that after all the small businesses that were wiped out during covid, and the countless deaths both then and now on Maui, it appears to me that this is just them playing fast and loose and "laser-focused," and more and more I find myself siding with this sound advice:
kYEED6sE5SYo
Bump. Out-f’ing-standing, as we used to say in the Army.
I’m referring in particular to the second video.
Arcturian108
17th August 2023, 01:10
The following video in the tweet is the smoking gun for me regarding the Lahaina firestorm being a preplanned event. This elderly resident of Lahaina walked out of town and survived, and asked a policeman at a barrier at the end of Front Street why the cars were not being allowed to turn north onto the highway out of town, and his answer was something like 'I don't know, but that's my orders'.
https://twitter.com/AndreIconik/status/1691528549088264193
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Patient
17th August 2023, 02:42
I don't think that people are thinking that a DEW weapon burned the entire town.
It is more acceptable that the DEW started it off by starting fires in strategic positions.
Another factor in fires today are the materials that are falling from the Chem trail and weather modification. Our homes and all of the trees and fields are covered in it.
Raskolnikov
17th August 2023, 03:21
I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
I thoroughly second that notion. I don't know (Mr. Hand, sorry, couldn't resist.) The more you learn, the less you "know", the more questions you have right? And I agree Patient, I don't think a DEW burned the entire town either, but kinda leaning towards some sort of involvement, strictly for the cars-melting-at-the-waterline-without-a-fuel-source alone. That's a big one for me. How do cars melt in such a large street next to water without a fuel source? Please don't tell me it was the wind.
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Tam
17th August 2023, 03:45
I'm glad to see this kind of debate/back and forth. It's so refreshing.
That picture with the flattened neighborhood and the surrounding trees is interesting. I'm still not 100% sold either way but it's the first of the photos that's made me have pause. Just to be sure, this picture is from Maui, right? The trees look almost coniferous.
In any case, the official story just doesn't add up. The response from the cops reminds me of the Uvalde, Texas shooting.
It might also be wise to scan current events to see what this massive fire could be a distraction from.
Raskolnikov
17th August 2023, 04:17
That picture with the flattened neighborhood and the surrounding trees is interesting. I'm still not 100% sold either way but it's the first of the photos that's made me have pause. Just to be sure, this picture is from Maui, right? The trees look almost coniferous.
If you're referring to the one I posted, no, it's from Paradise. Just trying to get the point across that this tech is well in use at this point.
Tam
17th August 2023, 04:19
Ah, I see. Yes, the Paradise fires were a DEW in my opinion, or at least, were started in some areas by one. Thanks for clarifying.
Raskolnikov
17th August 2023, 04:43
It might also be wise to scan current events to see what this massive fire could be a distraction from.
Excellent point, most definitely diverting attention from something, and something major. Echoes David Icke and the 4th dimensional vantage point. So much at play here it's mind-boggling, and yet it's all so interconnected, definitely a reason they want us dumbed down, just think of the planning and the resources they've poured into poisoning mankind, and erasing our history, and misleading us into believing we're powerless, that it's all hopeless and we need anti-depressants and their toxic remedies, it's truly mind-boggling, yet to end on a positive note, we're on to them, and that's put them in motion, and now we can see them...
Ravenlocke
17th August 2023, 05:10
Ravenlocke - yes, me too, and although I was not there, it reminds me of Savannah, Avalon member, who lost everything in the Paradise fire, including her cat, and passed away not that long after - I think a year or so later.
That was former admin Sierra (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?3634-Sierra), not Savannah, but that's correct, she was a victim of that fire (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105014-Avalon-Family-Member-Sierra-lost-everything-Go-Fund-Me&highlight=sierra), lost everything in it, and did indeed pass away. That was a couple of years ago (and was announced here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92705-Acknowledging-and-honoring-Avalon-members-who-have-passed&p=1438483&viewfull=1#post1438483)).
Thank you for the correction! Sorry I did not get her Avalon name right - yes, Sierra. What happened to her was something that haunted many of us for a long time.
Thanks Arwen for letting me know this, I’m so sorry I didn’t know about Sierra and her cat. Many folks who worked in Chico lost their pets because they left them behind to go to work, in the homes which burned down. The pet store in the middle of town burned with all the birds and animals in it and I used to get my cat food there. And the homes that burned down were the older homes, some were quite old buildings too.
The fire came up Pentz first and our street was off Pentz road, the hospital where my husband used to go for his eye appointments was off Pentz it burned too. From Pentz it spread to Skyway the only road to Chico. From the bottom of Skyway all you could see was one massive black cloud at the top of the hill. The spirit church where we would go to listen to special IONS guests give a talk was burned down. We got to see Ralph Ring there. It’s all gone.
Johnnycomelately
17th August 2023, 06:57
(Edit: post #144)
Its not a matter of what I believe? its a matter of asking good questions and questioning my own pre set biases and beliefs.
AS i said and I WILL REPEAT
I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
I don’t know too, so this is just my opinion.
The main debate here, seems to be “DEW or not DEW”. Odd that no one has mentioned Yoda’s accompanying utterance, “There is no try”. None of the believers in such DEW as is envisaged here even try to back up their claim. No reference to existing known tech, no consideration of the physics of such an undertaking. And dissenting voices, such as me, have done little to describe the ferocity of wind driven big fires, or the wondrous fickleness of free air in general.
Regarding the fickleness, I once witnessed a tube of air blast through a smoky daylight campfire I was tending. Mostly horizontal, centred about 6’ up at the fire (my eye level). Abt 2-3 feet across, it went in a slight corkscrew for ~20 ft beyond the fire, trailing tube shaped smoke. Took a fraction of a second, and then was gone (no more ‘gusts’). The local air was fairly calm, fire smoke was mostly going upward.
Someone upthread tabled the idea that air (/wind?) is ~alive. I tend to agree. I think it is kind of like a hand, part of a larger living physical system, powered by the Sun. The book The Little Prince was fun to remember, after that cool sighting.
Eric J (Viking)
17th August 2023, 08:44
Just saying…🤷♂️
How in the world did the Maui firestorms miss this mysteriously unscathed house and property?!
https://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Screen-Shot-2023-08-16-at-6.24.17-PM.png
Yep http://https://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Screen-Shot-2023-08-16-at-6.24.17-PM.png
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=181068
Viking
norman
17th August 2023, 08:48
To me, it looks like the satanists are claiming all the island paradise locations for themselves, to get away from the effects of what they have in mind for the continental locations the remaining humans will be. The oceans are their territory. Maxwell's TerraMar project fits into this somehow. Jessie Czebotar has some very interesting things to say about it in this (https://podbay.fm/p/sarah-westall-business-game-changers-745832/e/1639085836) conversation with Sarah Westall in late 2021.
Tenerife wildfires lead to evacuation of villages
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66525861
None of the believers in such DEW as is envisaged here even try to back up their claim. No reference to existing known tech, no consideration of the physics of such an undertaking.
You may have missed this post I made earlier in this thread. In it, is a quite extensive presentation of the known and documented history of DEW.
This might interest the DEW discussion participants. Apparently there is actually a place on the island called the Directed Energy Directorate.
https://flightlineinsignia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/AIR-FORCE-RESEARCH-LABORATORY-DIRECTED-ENERGY-DIRECTORATE-LASER-1076-D.jpg
WERE DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS USED IN MAUI? LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN PROVE...
The Last American Vagabond - 1 hour 10 minutes - Posted Aug 12, 2023
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An aside, but deadly related:
This is the current Chairperson of the Satanic Council
https://media.pitchfork.com/photos/64b565ce37e30e506f041773/2:1/w_2560%2Cc_limit/barack_GettyImages-1258941825.jpg
This is the current Chairperson's right hand (wo)Man [or you could say P.A.]
https://www.azcentral.com/gcdn/-mm-/67afa5203eef17cdce9c6e52add66468aea1d1ef/c=0-9-650-376/local/-/media/2015/12/02/Phoenix/2ff0cac4ee34bc60ee2997870790c86a952ab60c.jpg?width=1200&disable=upscale&format=pjpg&auto=webp
Eric J (Viking)
17th August 2023, 08:50
Too many unanswered questions… ?? Again I don’t know either, but the official narrative stinks to high heaven…
THIS VIDEO DOCUMENTARY PROVES LAHAINA WAS THE TARGET OF A HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED BROAD SPECTRUM ATTACK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUR113G-5T8
Viking
norman
17th August 2023, 10:57
An open question for anyone and everyone.
What kind of (sovereign) location on this planet would be easiest to muscle into and take over ( change laws and international status etc ) as a criminal cult on the run from global justice ?
My own thought is that a small island after a devastating disaster would be the easiest and fastest path to that objective.
Juan O'Savin . . . The military observation satelites will have seen exactly what happend on Maui and they will have known within moments what it was.
https://rumble.com/v38ed10-juan-o-savin-proof-of-concept-stolen-lives-amp-8-16-2023.html
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ExomatrixTV
17th August 2023, 12:36
rebelnews.com/tags/the_truth_about_maui (https://www.rebelnews.com/tags/the_truth_about_maui)
TheTruthAboutMaui.com (https://TheTruthAboutMaui.com)
Something Is Very Wrong With The #MauiFires (https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/maui-fires-fda-ivermectin-misinfo)... :dog:
Were Directed Energy Weapons Used In Maui? Let’s Look At What We Can Prove… (https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/directed-energy-weapons-maui/)
Arcturian108
17th August 2023, 12:58
Just saying…🤷♂️
How in the world did the Maui firestorms miss this mysteriously unscathed house and property?!
https://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Screen-Shot-2023-08-16-at-6.24.17-PM.png
Yep http://https://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Screen-Shot-2023-08-16-at-6.24.17-PM.png
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=181068
Viking
My guess as to why that house was saved is that it didn't have a smart meter on it, or the house electricity had been turned off before hand for some reason.
Arcturian108
17th August 2023, 13:16
As I wrote previously on this thread, the first smoking gun for me was the elderly Lahaina man claiming that the roads exiting Lahaina were blocked, and now this person brings up what to me is the second smoking gun, which is that people died in their cars, without even trying to get out:
https://twitter.com/Truthpole/status/1691986438152413553
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Gwin Ru
17th August 2023, 14:21
As I wrote previously on this thread, the first smoking gun for me was the elderly Lahaina man claiming that the roads exiting Lahaina were blocked, and now this person brings up what to me is the second smoking gun, which is that people died in their cars, without even trying to get out:
https://twitter.com/Truthpole/status/1691986438152413553Michael Jaco would concur with you on that car enigma as having himself been DEWed and the advice being to ground oneself to survive it and recounting how someone in Maui managed to get out of his car and survived whereas his passenger died in the car... (somewhere past the first 1/2 of the video ~ 0:33:00)
Dr. Forti gives account of Lahaina abnormalities and psychics insights on China invading America. 1:08:59
Michael Jaco (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Michael%20Jaco)Ken Matthews (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Ken%20Matthews)Dr. Kathy Forti (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Dr.%20Kathy%20Forti)
14 hours ago
michaelj5326
(https://rumble.com/user/michaelj5326)
Hungry Heroes Hawaii Emergency Fire Response
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Ratszinger
17th August 2023, 14:32
Just saying…🤷♂️
How in the world did the Maui firestorms miss this mysteriously unscathed house and property?!
https://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Screen-Shot-2023-08-16-at-6.24.17-PM.png
Yep http://https://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Screen-Shot-2023-08-16-at-6.24.17-PM.png
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=181068
Viking
My guess as to why that house was saved is that it didn't have a smart meter on it, or the house electricity had been turned off before hand for some reason.
Here in Tornado Alley Oklahoma I've seen twisters drop down come right into the neighbors back yard and knock down a beautiful thick stone wall he built to surround his outdoor grill. It blew the wall right over and destroyed it moving some of the rocks quite a ways out from where they were and yet the barbeque grill and the bottle of ketchup and mustard he left sitting on the side flat platform were still right there untouched not even moved. How? Nature can be very unexplainable sometimes. All that wind inches away from those lightweight containers and forceful enough to knock that red sandstone wall down but not move the bottles or grill makes the mind boggle. I'd have thought it was just some yarn an ole timer was telling but I saw it for myself.
Raskolnikov
17th August 2023, 15:30
None of the believers in such DEW as is envisaged here even try to back up their claim.
No disrespect meant to anyone on this thread, but I figured after the Paradise fire everyone was up to speed on the existing DEW tech at this point. And it's worth noting that one of military bases specializing in this tech is located on Maui.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKwRI9CmCBM
Here's a decent take on the tech (skip the repeated segment from 4:18 - 8:35)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiykXLEW2NU
And if you don't think "they" (still hate that ambiguous description) plan on using this tech to take us off the land they desire, listen to this little clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsaSD6JzGto
Eric J (Viking)
17th August 2023, 15:43
Torching of Lahaina an ACT OF TERRORISM by the tyrannical government against the people of Hawaii
Edit thank you Bill.
Viking
https://brighteon.com/190b2b80-6913-445f-a628-3b148f48c880
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Eric J (Viking)
17th August 2023, 15:50
None of the believers in such DEW as is envisaged here even try to back up their claim.
No disrespect meant to anyone on this thread, but I figured after the Paradise fire everyone was up to speed on the existing DEW tech at this point. And it's worth noting that one of military bases specializing in this tech is located on Maui.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKwRI9CmCBM
Here's a decent take on the tech (skip the repeated segment from 4:18 - 8:35)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiykXLEW2NU
And if you don't think "they" (still hate that ambiguous description) plan on using this tech to take us off the land they desire, listen to this little clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsaSD6JzGto
Hi Rask
Very informative, thank you.
Easy explanation of DEW ect…
Viking
Raskolnikov
17th August 2023, 16:13
Podesta blames climate change for Maui fire, as they say at the track, "And away they go..."
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Paul D.
17th August 2023, 16:34
Directed Energy Weapons are a conspiracy theory, right? gov.uk/government/pub… #Maui #factcheckthisbbctards
[I]This is just some of what they openly admit to such as Dragonfire https://www.mbda-systems.com/press-releases/dragonfire-proving-trials-underway
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Raskolnikov
17th August 2023, 16:54
My friend just posted this if anyone has friends or family over there. He also mentioned he would be getting involved in making tiny homes for those affected, I've heard others mention the tiny homes as a temporary solution as well.
Inversion
17th August 2023, 17:10
The water being provided to the residents is making them sick. There's a 2:34 video in the link. It looks like a multitiered extermination.
"They're experiencing fevers, chills, and other ailments from drinking this potable water."
Vigilant Fox (https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/not-safe-government-provided-drinking)
“We're experiencing, now, an issue with the water supply. We're being told that the water is not safe to drink. It's also not safe after boiling, which is quite frightening. And we don't know how long these restrictions are going to be lasting on the public.”
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0bf9de8-8b7d-4f84-85c2-cdc99dfcd4a5_946x1518.jpeg
kfm27917
17th August 2023, 18:31
was this a planned act of terrorism to detract public attention ? (standard pattern) Biden ?
hint: always watch the other hand of the magician
pyrangello
17th August 2023, 18:39
Maui boy, 7, is found burned to death in car as local lawmaker says she fears HUNDREDS of children may be dead after power cut kept them home from school on day of inferno
Fears are growing that a large number of the Maui wildfire victims are children
Many children were at home on the day of the fires after power cuts on the island closed schools, prompting fears some may not have escaped the flames
The death toll is currently 111 but a lawmaker said she expects the final figure will be in the hundreds
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12416967/Maui-boy-7-burned-death-car-local-lawmaker-says-fears-HUNDREDS-children-dead-power-cut-kept-home-school-day-inferno.html
There's many many stories hitting the wires and alternative sites, the fact school was let out and these kids had to fend for themself s lends the theory that this in fact was satanic sacrifice of those that want to get rid of a bunch of us. These are all heart wrenching stories. I pray the wrath's of god rain down on those responsible in more ways than one. The children count is going much higher, god bless them all.
pyrangello
17th August 2023, 18:51
“POWERS THAT BE” RESPONSIBLE: New Footage from Maui Fire Ground Zero Shows Hawaii Police Officer Shutting Down Citizen Donation Center for Fire Victims
https://www.usasupreme.com/powers-that-be-responsible-new-footage-from-maui-fire-ground-zero-shows-hawaii-police-officer-shutting-down-citizen-donation-center-for-fire-victims (https://www.usasupreme.com/powers-that-be-responsible-new-footage-from-maui-fire-ground-zero-shows-hawaii-police-officer-shutting-down-citizen-donation-center-for-fire-victims/)
https://www.usasupreme.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/maui-fires-pd-footage.mp4
https://www.usasupreme.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/maui-fires-pd-footage.mp4
seehas
17th August 2023, 22:02
“POWERS THAT BE” RESPONSIBLE: New Footage from Maui Fire Ground Zero Shows Hawaii Police Officer Shutting Down Citizen Donation Center for Fire Victims
https://www.usasupreme.com/powers-that-be-responsible-new-footage-from-maui-fire-ground-zero-shows-hawaii-police-officer-shutting-down-citizen-donation-center-for-fire-victims (https://www.usasupreme.com/powers-that-be-responsible-new-footage-from-maui-fire-ground-zero-shows-hawaii-police-officer-shutting-down-citizen-donation-center-for-fire-victims/)
https://www.usasupreme.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/maui-fires-pd-footage.mp4
https://www.usasupreme.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/maui-fires-pd-footage.mp4
hard to belive that this is realy happening and you could tell the police guy did not feel good about why would he state "there are powers that be and im not sure why..." this looks like they want the people to riot, how else could it be explained
its all about control right now, they are not letting the people go into the centre, people are not receiving goods and now they are even preventing the people from helping each other
is this the coming new taste of the "smart island" maui ?
Raskolnikov
17th August 2023, 22:22
Local witness says there is no help:
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And not sure what's with this one, supposedly just before the fire, may be bs, idk...
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Delight
17th August 2023, 22:49
This is direct reporting from a survivor on the Highwire. The GOVERNMENT IS FLAT OUT LYING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING.
Heroes of the Devastating Lahaina Fire Report from Maui (https://thehighwire.com/watch/)
https://rumble.com/v38jg9c-episode-333-inescapable.html
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Arcturian108
17th August 2023, 23:07
If a treaty of annexation was never signed between the Hawaiian Kingdom & the U.S.A. government of that time, then if there is no legal treaty, that might mean that the State of Hawaii is an illegal entity!!
In the following video a former Marine Corps long-time resident of Hawaii asks some tough questions about the status of Hawaii, and if the above is true then his second point makes sense.
https://twitter.com/HumanDilemma_/status/1691980140434063807
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norman
17th August 2023, 23:48
If a treaty of annexation was never signed between the Hawaiian Kingdom & the U.S.A. government of that time, then if there is no legal treaty, that might mean that the State of Hawaii is an illegal entity!!
In the following video a former Marine Corps long-time resident of Hawaii asks some tough questions about the status of Hawaii, and if the above is true then his second point makes sense.
https://twitter.com/HumanDilemma_/status/1691980140434063807
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https://t.me/dailyrealtimenews/22718
dailyrealtimenews/22718
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/50510
TommyRobinsonNews/50510
Raskolnikov
18th August 2023, 03:29
Musical interlude, or intermission while we catch our breaths. I'll say one thing, in light of those cops "just following orders," Mark Passio was right, and I will never cease to be amazed at the sheer number of people willing to follow orders.
I know that most here wish to keep this a strictly scientific, objective, and emperical analysis of the evidence involved in this situation, but some of us have been personally affected. I just heard from my brother today, who lived in Lahaina for a few years, and he said that most of his friends made it out ok and were luckily out of town that day, but hasn't heard from an old girlfriend and her husband and two children and fears the worst saying it's been too long. I like to get personal because that's where we're human and where we connect. So a personal anecdote concerning order following. I had a past life reading with Marcia Schafer, Bob Dean's wife, and she told me that besides being crucified for telling my commanding Roman officer that he didn't know what the hell he was talking about and was going to get everyone killed, that I was a police officer in Ireland who dropped my badge and sided with the people during an uprising. Again, I don't know. But it may be why I feel so strongly opposed to those who blindly follow orders. And something still doesn't sit right with the cop who stopped cars from leaving during the fire. Who gave those orders and why would anyone take them seriously?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygsixNsPSc
palehorse
18th August 2023, 07:34
It is time for people stop being so sheep and stop going along with everything and see things for what it is, I know PA get many access of non-members and I am referring to them, and many people are discovering all these things right now, then yes folks as you all can see in this thread the PA family try to give the best to tackle the problem, if the information here is not enough to make you all see what is going on, I am sure nothing else will, there is no better place in the whole internet to have an unbiased analysis of the many issues we are facing in our time.
Go through all the videos/channels posted in this thread and see for yourself, we the people are under heavy attack for a long time, and this is only the begin.
I am feeling very sorry for the residents of Maui.
Raskolnikov
18th August 2023, 07:45
On with the show...
Head of Maui's emergency agency resigns
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Interesting overview of what was spared and what wasn't
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And this is a great redux of The Last Vagabonds analysis which Norman originally posted
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And some locals talking about no help from FEMA
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norman
18th August 2023, 11:46
I'm looking for the video clip of Oprah Winfrey telling a reporter that when there's a rebuild plan ( or words to that effect ) she will be donating a lot of money.
I want that specific clip, there are lots of others but I cannot now find that one. I want it for a composite video I'm working on.
Can anyone point me straight to it somewhere ?
ref' to below post.
Thanks seehas. That's the moment ( unless she said the same thing twice ) but it's an already cropped and edited inclusion in someone else's composite video. The one I remember was raw footage, full frame and even had the reporter's microphone in the frame. That's the one I really want to get my hands on.
@mizo
That's possibly the clip I saw. I just didn't remember it as a vertical phone format clip. Now I have a problem, I can't download Twitter clips.
twitter clip:
I got it downloaded. It couldn't have been easier in the end, I used https://ssstwitter.com
Big thanks to everyone for the instant help.
seehas
18th August 2023, 11:56
I'm looking for the video clip of Oprah Winfrey telling a reporter that when there's a rebuild plan ( or words to that effect ) she will be donating a lot of money.
I want that specific clip, there are lots of others but I cannot now find that one. I want it for a composite video I'm working on.
Can anyone point me straight to it somewhere ?
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this one 0:50 ?
mizo
18th August 2023, 12:01
@NORMAN
Clip here too
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1690877090416214016
pyrangello
18th August 2023, 14:44
I bet you will Oprah! Didnt know you were on the planning committee.
Mass Murder and the West Maui Land Grab
Maui will either be a major milestone for the ruling class, or a line in the sand for we the people. ( Greg Reese does his 5 minute clip always spot on)
https://gregreese.substack.com/p/mass-murder-and-the-west-maui-land?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#play
Biden proposes 1.7 million in aid compared to the 300 billion to the 3rd most corrupt country in the world Ukraine. Yeah lets go blow stuff up instead. We have no more leaders, we have users in charge.
Raskolnikov
18th August 2023, 15:27
This one does show a fire truck and some emercency vehicles and right when they make it to safety they're turned around by the cops.
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Some rehashed clips here but one lady says they're giving eviction notices to those whose houses didn't burn down.
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Raskolnikov
18th August 2023, 16:10
Mayor forcing people to leave thier homes.
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Man whose family ran a mortuary for 40 years says, "it is a big puzzle."
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ExomatrixTV
18th August 2023, 18:50
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The blame for the destruction of West Maui is falling upon Hawaiian Electric who knew as early as four years ago that there was a risk of fire due to their own negligence of maintaining power lines. But did nothing. Hawaiian Electric, who is owned by Vanguard and BlackRock, has been shifting their focus to clean energy. But in order to Build Back Better, they must first destroy the old system. And so the power was left on to feed the fires.
The outdoor siren warning system on Maui is one of the most advanced and maintained warning systems on Earth. Residents are accustomed to monthly tests and on the day of the fire, no sirens went off. The director in charge of this warning system was at a FEMA disaster seminar in Oahu as the fires were devastating the people of Maui.
When asked if he regretted not sounding the alarm, he said no. Because he was worried that the people would run into the fire.
But instead, they burned to death. Including an untold number of children who were home alone that morning because of a school cancellation.
The water wasn’t on. Fire hydrants were dry. And the Deputy Director of Water Resource Management, who was named an Obama Foundation Leader, refused to release water for the west Maui fires until it was too late. He says that in order to share water, Hawaiians need to discuss equity.
Without any warnings and without any water, the people tried to flee. But they were stopped by the police who had orders to keep people from escaping.
The Maui chief of police, John Pelletier, was the incident officer at one of the biggest cover-up operations in US history; the 2017 Las Vegas shootings.
Residents are not allowed to leave unless they get a permission slip from the federal government. But the government recently decided to shut that option down.
While the fires burned, a book was published about the entire event. The book blamed climate change and was written by a Dr Miles Stones. The definition of milestone is; an action or event marking a significant change or stage in development.
Hawaii is being usurped by the same billionaires pushing for the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum). They have been planning on turning Maui into a test bed for their Artificial Intelligence Smart Grid. But the people were in their way, so they burned them out. Maui will either be a major milestone for the ruling class, or a line in the sand for we the people.
The federal government offers a one-time payment of seven hundred dollars to each family that has lost their home. And the Governor of Hawaii tells reporters that the state plans on acquiring the land.
And if it wasn’t for the local community, the survivors would be left alone to die in the ashes of their neighbors.
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pyrangello
18th August 2023, 20:21
EXCLUSIVE: Maui wildfires death toll climbs to 480 locals claim, as Hawaii morgue workers run out of body bags and survivors are left to recover the charred remains of their loved ones
Locals have been forced to carry out their own search and recovery efforts in the aftermath of the deadly Lahaina wildfires amid the slow response from officials, DailyMail.com has learned
Maui resident and volunteer Allisen Medina, 24, has also claimed authorities are underplaying the death toll: 'I know there are at least 480 dead here in Maui and I don't understand why they're not saying that'
She said the slow recovery process has led to family members being left to find the charred corpses of their loved ones themselves, including a friend of hers who lost four family members
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12420893/Maui-wildfires-death-toll-update.html
I still remember the bull**** line of for days after this happened, we have only inspected 3%. Dont be suprised if the death count goes well over 1000. There is something very wrong here as we can all see in the previous posts.Don't be suprised for the native local people in the future to find there justice in other ways. Its an island remember, their island.
Arcturian108
18th August 2023, 22:18
The following is a public meeting conducted by native Hawaiian Lahaina leaders, who are asking the governor to include them in the planning to rebuild. The first few minutes of the video is in the Hawaiian language:
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/video/2023/08/18/native-hawaiian-leaders-discuss-governments-response-lahaina-fire-that-ravaged-their-community (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/video/2023/08/18/native-hawaiian-leaders-discuss-governments-response-lahaina-fire-that-ravaged-their-community/)
https://d1l66zlxaqpl1u.cloudfront.net/wp-gray/20230818/64dfd4952ccb712a9cb0868d/file_1920x1080-5400-v4/file_1280x720-2000-v3_1.mp4
https://d1l66zlxaqpl1u.cloudfront.net/wp-gray/20230818/64dfd4952ccb712a9cb0868d/file_1920x1080-5400-v4/file_1280x720-2000-v3_1.mp4
Raskolnikov
18th August 2023, 23:10
Beautiful and sad recounting of what life was like in Lahaina. I can definitely see why my brother loved it so much, he was a free spirit who never conformed to the rules and loved the hawaiian culture.
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Arcturian108
18th August 2023, 23:58
Beautiful and sad recounting of what life was like in Lahaina. I can definitely see why my brother loved it so much, he was a free spirit who never conformed to the rules and loved the hawaiian culture.
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Her description sounds like a natural "15-minute city" "where you would walk everywhere in Lahaina". The idea of a 15-minute city if there were no rules is not a terrible thing, but everything is inverted these days, and their 15-minute city is more like a concentration camp that you can't escape from.
onawah
19th August 2023, 02:56
Mass Murder and the West Maui Land Grab/ Reese Report
GREG REESE
8/18/23
https://gregreese.substack.com/p/mass-murder-and-the-west-maui-land?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#play
(Video at the link)
"Maui will either be a major milestone for the ruling class, or a line in the sand for we the people.
The blame for the destruction of West Maui is falling upon Hawaiian Electric who knew as early as four years ago that there was a risk of fire due to their own negligence of maintaining power lines. But did nothing. Hawaiian Electric, who is owned by Vanguard and BlackRock, has been shifting their focus to clean energy. But in order to Build Back Better, they must first destroy the old system. And so the power was left on to feed the fires.
The outdoor siren warning system on Maui is one of the most advanced and maintained warning systems on Earth. Residents are accustomed to monthly tests and on the day of the fire, no sirens went off. The director in charge of this warning system was at a FEMA disaster seminar in Oahu as the fires were devastating the people of Maui.
When asked if he regretted not sounding the alarm, he said no. Because he was worried that the people would run into the fire.
But instead, they burned to death. Including an untold number of children who were home alone that morning because of a school cancellation.
The water wasn’t on. Fire hydrants were dry. And the Deputy Director of Water Resource Management, who was named an Obama Foundation Leader, refused to release water for the west Maui fires until it was too late. He says that in order to share water, Hawaiians need to discuss equity.
Without any warnings and without any water, the people tried to flee. But they were stopped by the police who had orders to keep people from escaping.
The Maui chief of police, John Pelletier, was the incident officer at one of the biggest cover-up operations in US history; the 2017 Las Vegas shootings.
Residents are not allowed to leave unless they get a permission slip from the federal government. But the government recently decided to shut that option down.
While the fires burned, a book was published about the entire event. The book blamed climate change and was written by a Dr Miles Stones. The definition of milestone is; an action or event marking a significant change or stage in development.
Hawaii is being usurped by the same billionaires pushing for the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset. They have been planning on turning Maui into a test bed for their Artificial Intelligence Smart Grid. But the people were in their way, so they burned them out. Maui will either be a major milestone for the ruling class, or a line in the sand for we the people.
The federal government offers a one-time payment of seven hundred dollars to each family that has lost their home. And the Governor of Hawaii tells reporters that the state plans on acquiring the land.
And if it wasn’t for the local community, the survivors would be left alone to die in the ashes of their neighbors."
ExomatrixTV
19th August 2023, 12:41
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This Local Woman from Maui points out the flaw of the logic that been pushed by the State of Hawaii's officials
"The firefighters were sent somewhere else" 🧐
Eric J (Viking)
19th August 2023, 14:02
Hmmm🤷🏻♂️
Tried to embed
https://youtube.com/@exitthematrix1111
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1013584179955757?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V
Harmony
19th August 2023, 14:29
Hmmm🤷🏻♂️
Tried to embed
https://youtube.com/@exitthematrix1111
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1013584179955757?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V
Hi Viking,
Sorry, but so far Project Avalon hasn't got a way to embed facebook reel.:flower: Are you sure you have the right link to the youtube video you wanted to post? I can't see a video there about the Maui fires. Maybe just double check that to be sure.:sun:
Eric J (Viking)
19th August 2023, 14:40
Hmmm🤷🏻♂️
Tried to embed
https://youtube.com/@exitthematrix1111
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1013584179955757?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V
Hi Viking,
Sorry, but so far Project Avalon hasn't got a way to embed facebook reel.:flower: Are you sure you have the right link to the youtube video you wanted to post? I can't see a video there about the Maui fires. Maybe just double check that to be sure.:sun:
Thanks Harmony…it was the ‘Simpsons’ doing a clip about the DEW stuff.
Viking
ExomatrixTV
19th August 2023, 15:21
UNBELIEVABLE! State Officials DENIED Water To Fight Maui Wildfires!
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We’re all well aware of the devastation recent wildfires inflicted on Western Maui. What remains shocking, however, are the details emerging about the government response to the fire, including reports that access to water was initially refused to those attempting to fight the fires.
Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss this bizarre and upsetting revelation.
mojo
19th August 2023, 16:03
Im late late to this thread so didnt read all responses. I am hearing reports that people are suspecting Maui was hit with a directed energy weapon. The photos of the melted metal flowing from cars is reminiscent of the burnt cars at 911 and does seem suspicious.
Ernie Nemeth
19th August 2023, 17:09
It's all part of the illegitimate US government's pledge to:
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Raskolnikov
19th August 2023, 18:05
Update and interview with Shelby Thomson.
Putting up a twelve mile fence around the impact zone of Lahaina.
Press and media still not let in.
Fema director a liar, no boots on the ground, still not getting help.
Denying insurance claims for lost businesses and homes saying they were not within code.
Contract signed last year to build high rise condos and businesses in the historical town that could not have any new development within it - but now it can...
Begin at 7:30.
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ExomatrixTV
19th August 2023, 19:45
Maui Official Who Failed To Sound Alarm Gets AXED!:
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You’ve probably heard by now that the emergency alarms did not sound in Maui to alert residents to the rapidly spreading wildfires. But you may not know the justification offered by state official Herman Andaya, who said that it was feared residents hearing the sirens would assume a tsunami was coming and head for higher ground — right into the flames. Do you buy this excuse?
Jimmy and Kurt Metzger discuss Andaya’s surprise resignation and what he may be running away from having to face.
Raskolnikov
19th August 2023, 20:37
It's worth watching the first two and a half minutes of this one to see what was spared in the fire - coincidence?
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ExomatrixTV
19th August 2023, 20:43
A Message to Maui... The Proof May Shock You!
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WATCH - A Message to Maui... The Proof May Shock You Maui is an island in the Central Pacific, part of the Hawaiian archipelago. Sprawling Haleakala National Park encompasses the island’s highest peak, volcanic Haleakala, as well as the pools and waterfalls of Ohe’o Gulch, accessed via scenic, winding Hana Highway. The island's 30 miles of beaches include golden-crescent Kapalua, sheltered from strong currents by lava-rock promontories.
Uploaded to a 3.72M subs YouTube channel!
Pris
19th August 2023, 22:10
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JP's parody is bar none. The whole video is worth watching. He did a great job (tasteful for such a tragic event) with the Maui part: 3:54 - 7:32
Be sure not to miss JP's underwear ad at the end. It had me ROTFLMAO. Had to watch it twice, I laughed so hard I missed half the jokes.
(It's better to go out laughing than to be black pilled into oblivion.)
What They Don’t Want You to Know About the Maui Fires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xam32zi4mvg
ExomatrixTV
20th August 2023, 00:02
Maui Police Chief Ordered Cops To Block Cars From Fleeing Fire Allege Eyewitness:
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Maui Police Chief John Pelletier has been less than forthcoming about addressing concerns over the government response to the recent devastating wildfires. In one video Pelletier refuses to make eye contact with or even acknowledge a woman outside police headquarters who politely requested his attention to ask a few questions
Jimmy and Kurt Metzger discuss whether Pelletier “looks like a criminal” while assessing the Police Chief as “suspicious.”
Pris
20th August 2023, 02:43
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Maui Police Chief Ordered Cops To Block Cars From Fleeing Fire Allege Eyewitness:
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Maui Police Chief John Pelletier has been less than forthcoming about addressing concerns over the government response to the recent devastating wildfires. In one video Pelletier refuses to make eye contact with or even acknowledge a woman outside police headquarters who politely requested his attention to ask a few questions
Jimmy and Kurt Metzger discuss whether Pelletier “looks like a criminal” while assessing the Police Chief as “suspicious.”
As far as I'm concerned, that guy isn't a "police chief", he's a trusted goon sent in by the globalists. His orders were to maximize the death count during this (yet another) orchestrated disaster event. He's a full-blown terrorist dressed up in policeman's clothing.
Raskolnikov
20th August 2023, 04:42
As far as I'm concerned, that guy isn't a "police chief", he's a trusted goon sent in by the globalists. His orders were to maximize the death count during this (yet another) orchestrated disaster event. He's a full-blown terrorist dressed up in policeman's clothing.
F'ing A Pris, couldn't agree more, he's straight outta The Three Stooges.
On the world's most intelligent conspiracy site, I'm gonna go full tin foil hat. This is all I can think about lately - The Great Reset? Feast your eyes on the similarities:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQCPf1f7YWU
onawah
20th August 2023, 05:09
King Charles and "His" Green Climate Agenda, Part 2 (& the recent Mauifires
August 19, 2023
https://securetherepublic.com/arkansas/2023/08/19/king-charles-and-his-green-climate-agenda-part-2-and-the-recent-maui-fires/
(Continuation of Part 1, post #52: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1571904&viewfull=1#post1571904 in this thread
Hyperlinks in the article not embedded in this post.)
"The fourth industrial revolution means a MASSIVE technological change! Could that mean technological tyranny, too? Absolutely.
Pushing the climate change agenda is how the global elite in the World Economic Forum, the United Nations, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, Skull & Bones, Bill Gates, etc, think they can meet their sinister sustainable development goals. We are seeing climate change being used as an excuse for the destruction of anything and everything.
It is called “The Great Reset,” and it is accelerating! Those behind it plan to keep the occupants on this planet in perpetual crisis until the global elite’s goals are achieved.
https://static.securetherepublic.com/State-Documents/Arkansas/M9VQI4jofX-pic-of-hrh-prince-charles-delivering-special-message-5oth-wef-annual-meeting-in-davos-switzerland-january-22-2020.jpg HRH Prince Charles delivered a special address during the 50th World Economic Forum (WEF) annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland, January 22, 2020.
Just think… the evil transnational cabal met in January 2020 with a big agenda to fulfill that year. The World Economic Forum (WEF) started off with their year of jubilee (50th) by creating a pandemic, accompanied by their mRNA death/damaging jabs… topping it all off with economic destruction. Satan must have been proud as he was egging them along! We wonder how many governments of the world sold their souls to get position and power.
The Lord said in Mark 8:34-38
“When He had called the people to Himself, with His disciples also, He said to them, “Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.
For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s, the same shall save it. For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.”
Maybe they were promised more destructive space weapons??? Talk about world conspiracy that is a threat to humanity… It’s just like a scary science fiction film! They want to reset humans, too. Note: The vile mRNA injections have caused irreversible heart defects to billions of innocent people!
Looking back a few years: September 25, 2020 at the World Economic Forum (WEF), then-Prince Charles (who is now king):
HRH Prince of Wales shared six levers of a Marshall-like plan to tackle climate change and save the environment.
Bank of America CEO Moynihan: The right leaders committed to action can ensure sustainable solutions go “further faster.”
When talking about the great reset, King Charles says:
The scale of the reset is “totally unprecedented,” HRH the Prince of Wales explained, but its progress could be accelerated with a Marshall-like plan for people, nature and planets.
Klaus Schwab commented and said,… even if Covid-19 may still be with us for some time. But now it’s really the moment and the window of opportunity to reset the world to make it more sustainable, more resilient and more inclusive.
Do you understand what they mean by “more sustainable”? If you don’t understand, you soon will…
These are the organizations which help enforce the directives they are given by the global elite:
the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA),
British Intelligence (MI6)/ Secret Intelligence Service (SIS),
the Russian KGB/ now the Federal Security Service (FSB),
Israel’s Mossad,
the Chinese Ministry of State Security (MSS, it has no website,)
etc.
See this You Tube video: China’s Secretive Spy Agency.
Many evil things are always happening. The surveillance of AI is there to implement global intelligence. Even our street-lights are being replaced with 5G-equipped LED lights.
US-focused Control Risks sees predictive AI partner Seerist gain stride (from 8/16/23)
GEOINT, OSINT, interceptions, software packages: the British corporate intelligence provider Control Risks Group’s Virginia-based partner Seerist has been growing in strength through the hire of private and ex-government US intelligence experts.
Here’s the home page for Seerist.
PENTAGON ADMITS THEY HAVE 5G DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS DEWS
(And remember that satellites could be placed on huge helium balloons.)
https://static.securetherepublic.com/State-Documents/Arkansas/e1Sv6rslpJ-pic-of-directed-energy-weaponry-from-air-force-research-lab.jpg
This Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) is worth researching to see what they are doing now.
AFRL’s Directed Energy Directorate is the Department of the Air Force’s Center of Expertise for directed energy and optical technologies. Located at Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico, the Directorate develops and transitions technologies in four core technical competencies:
laser systems,
high power electromagnetics,
weapons modeling and simulation, and
directed energy and electro-optics for space superiority.
The Kirkland Air Force Base is in New Mexico, but wait… there’s also one on Maui, too! It’s known as the Air Force Maui Optical and Supercomputing Site (observatory).
So, energy weapons are here, AND they can be used one way or another! And they CAN cause fires which they claim are wildfires. This malevolent climate change agenda will be accelerated with woeful force now.
More shocking news about Maui and their State of Emergency:
Lahaina has become the unbelievable nightmare picture for Crimes Against Humanity. The Lahaina death toll stands at 114 as of this writing, August 19, 2023. Over 1300 people are still missing! BUT Maui resident and volunteer Allisen Medina, 24, has also claimed authorities are underplaying the death toll: ‘I know there are at least 480 dead here in Maui and I don’t understand why they’re not saying that’
The morgue worker, who is volunteering in the search, also described finding scores of bodies, adding that many were families – including young children – who had died at their homes in each other’s’ arms, unable to escape the flames. ‘He found so many children, children and moms holding each other. Infants, toddlers, the unimaginable. Husbands and wives, whole entire [families] in a room just huddling together, burning to death,’ Trost said.
The numbers are astronomical with the fatalities still climbing.
Remember from our previous article (posted 8/13/2023), there were many, MANY vehicles with melted rims, melted glass, missing door handles, and melted engine blocks!!! Since when do wildfires cause such devastation? And note that there is NO foliage around those cars TO burn. “Embers that blow in the wind” do not cause this level of incredible damage and destruction. Directed energy weapons and electricity-based plasma fires do, though.
And note the interesting photos of Lahaina below:
https://static.securetherepublic.com/State-Documents/Arkansas/IetkMJioWl-pic-of-lahaina-with-burned-structures-but-one-big-one-left-standing-aug-2023.jpgAn aerial image taken on August 10, 2023 shows what buildings are still standing.
https://static.securetherepublic.com/State-Documents/Arkansas/1rSb52TJ8K-pic-of-lahaina-with-burned-structures-but-others-left-standing-aug-2023.jpg
The evil lackey government officials — local, state and federal — have failed us once again, especially the beloved, destitute Hawaiian community. Yes, our government has turned against humanity. We are living with a depopulation agenda designed by the global elite and the governments they have put in place. The compromised Joe Biden is controlled by China and other entities.
Biden said FEMA had authorized a one-time payment of up to $700 per household for the Hawaiian residents who have been displaced. Saying he had authorized “all available federal assets” to assist local crews, including the U.S. Coast Guard, the Navy’s Third Fleet and the U.S. Army.
NEWS RELEASE: MAUI HOMEOWNERS URGED TO EXERCISE CAUTION, REPORT UNSOLICITED OFFERS TO BUY THEIR PROPERTIES
BUT now, the insurance companies are telling the Hawaiian residents they have zoning infractions on their land and that claims will be denied… so the policyholders claims won’t be paid? Can you imagine? This is just wrong…
Insurance Companies Already Denying Maui Fire Losses Due To “Zoning Infractions” – Navigating Insurance Claims Amidst The Aftermath Of Maui Fires: Important Insights For Maui Policyholders
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The recent Maui fires have left a trail of unfathomable devastation in their wake, impacting communities, homes, and lives. As affected individuals begin the process of recovery, it has come to light that insurance companies are already denying insurance claims based on zoning infractions. This move by the insurance carriers has left policyholders in a state of uncertainty, frustration, and despair.
We can tell you that IF you are in an area they want… they will try to get it, one way or another! Yet again, another LAND GRAB.
Hawaii Insurance Risk In Spotlight After Maui Wildfires
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An insurance crisis has taken hold in states with a high risk of costly natural disasters, specifically areas subject to increased impact from climate change, such as coastal states like Florida, Louisiana and California. In July, Farmers Insurance became the fourth major insurance agency to leave Florida in the past year, citing the increased risk of hurricanes. Other states are likely to follow as the risk of natural disasters and their anticipated damage grows. The crisis has limited homeowners’ options for insurance and caused premiums to skyrocket.
We can see what’s coming, can’t we? The global elite say that single dwelling homes are NOT sustainable, so we’ll get limited options for insurance and skyrocketing premiums. So, insuring our homes and businesses could be a lot more expensive, if we happen to live in coastal states or an area the global elite wants to deem off-limits.
7-second video- Governor Josh Green Scheming To Take Hawaiian People’s Land
Hawaii Governor Josh Green’s statement on August 12, 2023 regarding Lahaina, Maui land damaged by fires: “I’m already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land, so that we can put it into work force housing… the state will take it and preserve it first.”
A main stream news blackout is still occurring on Maui, so this IS a definite media and governmental cover-up of the targeted tragedies that happened there recently. Could this be a planned crisis? Yes! The viewing public worldwide DEMANDS to see more mainstream and private videos from the survivors there!
You’ve probably seen the before-and-after pictures of beautiful, historic downtown Lahaina on Maui:
https://static.securetherepublic.com/State-Documents/Arkansas/QGXfeAVULK-pic-of-lahaina-maui-before-and-after-aug-2023-fires.jpg
We were told by Governor Josh Green (D) that the fire began on August 8, 2023. He is calling for a “new” Lahaina to be rebuilt! But wait… At 11:00 a.m. on August 4, 2023, it was reported by satellites that a handful of small fires had started on Maui around the same time. The governor stated that Lahaina looked like a bomb had been dropped, and he wasted no time blaming the fires on climate change.
Consider these strange things:
Maui had around 80 sirens that could have alerted residents of an emergency. No sirens sounded as people were burning to death!
Maui’s police chief, John Pelletier, was the Incident Commander of the Las Vegas country music mass shooting in 2017!
A book about the Maui fires has ALREADY been written, edited, published, AND then released on August 16, 2023: Fire and Fury: Unmasking the Enigma of the Maui Fire – Decoding the Unfolding Tragedy. (Looks like it was originally published on August 10th but Amazon pulled it and the author’s name was changed.)
Oh look! Another book about the tragic Maui fires, published August 12, 2023, touting to be “a heart-pounding book that tells you all you need to know about the ongoing wildfire ravaging the heart of Maui and Hawaii at large…”: MAUI/LAHAINA FIRE: The Impending Loss Of Hawaii’s Tourist Hotspot And The Once Vibrant Spirit Of Lahaina. (Amazing how it was written so quickly, too, isn’t it??)
More and more of their plans keep getting exposed…
The greedy global elite, foreign investors, and realtors are salivating and pillaging for the prime ocean front property in Lahaina! The whole area was devastated, and hundreds of adults and children were killed… literally burned alive and wiped out! We do NOT believe this was just natural wildfires or downed electric lines, dear readers.
The Lahaina community was encircled with a ring of fire that looked had been contrived, and even boats were on fire IN the water. Funny how the governor’s house was spared, but his neighbors’ homes were desecrated.
A water management company’s request to make more water available to fight the devastating fires on Maui was DELAYED by a state agency. So, there wasn’t adequate water to help fight the fires! Ironic and absolutely heart-breaking, since the island is surrounded by water…
In Honolulu on Monday, September 25, 2023, the Hawaii Digital Government Summit 2023 will be held. Scroll down on their site to see the agenda. Maui may or may not be mentioned that day, but how can they fail to mention it? It’s been said that the government is touting that Maui could be the first Smart Island. This must NOT be allowed to happen, if the good people of the island want to remain free!
The people on Maui need to kick out this illegitimate deceitful government and claim their true sovereignty so they can live as a free people. Hawaiians have a right to their native land. “Maui Nō Ka ʻOi.”
Beware! Hawaii’s new gung-ho Governor, Josh Green, was just put into place in December 2022 and conveniently appeared soon afterwards at the United Nations Economic and Social Council in July 2023 in New York. He pointed out his sustainable development goals, as well as that Hawaii, an island state, plans to be the first US state to run entirely on clean energy.
Green seems determined to have the Hawaiians conform to the United Nations system, which is totalitarian rule! Time will tell… He has proven to be a powerful and dangerous Sustainable Development player with this New World Order and its U.N. global agenda.
Here’s Governor Green’s News Release from when he was at the United Nations in July 2023. He spoke at 2 events, and here are the videos of those:
the Local and Regional Governments Forum and
the Local2030 Coalition Special Event.
MUST READ from California Globe: Hawaii Governor Green – Puppet for the United Nations
Governor doubled down on commitment to United Nations Sustainable Development Goals just one month before Maui fires
Just one month prior to the fire, Governor Green’s Office issued a press release to highlight their commitment to the United Nations (U.N.) 17 Goals for Sustainable Development.
See the press release in the article linked above. More snippets:
While the United Nations, Japanese and State of Hawaii are eager to shift to ‘100% renewable energy’, the adverse effects have been ignored. According to the Endangered Species Coalition:
“Renewable energy production often destroys habitats and hurts wildlife. Even if there are regulations against this, the sites can still cause harm to animals. Solar panels — for example —- take up a lot of space and drive animals out of their habitat.
Energy production affects biodiversity with its construction and placement:
Habitat loss: Energy sources take away space from plants and animals.
Wildlife destruction: Renewable energy sources stress animals and even kill them. Wind turbines spin with great force and may harm birds or bats.[Just like what’s going on in Carroll County, Arkansas.] Highlighted and bracketed, Secure Arkansas.
Land Damage: The construction of renewable energy sources damages the land’s natural layout and destroys plants.
Displacement: Displaced animals are sent to live elsewhere when renewable energy sources are built on their homes.
Renewable energy is supposed to be environmentally friendly, but it damages local ecosystems and threatens endangered species. For example, take the effect of a solar energy development on Mojave desert tortoises. The tortoises live up to 80 years, but the threat to their habitat puts those lives in danger. The plan meant the tortoises would likely be displaced and struggle to adapt to their new environment.
The destruction of plant life and wildlife is a common side effect of renewable energy. Endangered plants cannot relocate, so the construction of renewable energy sources threatens to destroy them.”
The suffering, exploited, and abused Lahaina community needs all the support they can get because it sure looks like they were hit with “Directed Energy Weapons (DEWs)”… and if they did, it was MASS GENOCIDE. The assaulted people were jumping into the ocean to escape the meltdown and flames. What were these strikes coming from the sky?
Must see! D.E.W. COMPILATION (MAUI, CALIFORNIA…) — 33 minute video
The Department of Defence (D.O.D.) spends about $1 billion annually on developing directed energy weapons. Lockheed Martin has state-of-the-art weapons, such as lasers, microwaves, and particle beams!
Things just do NOT add up with the narrative coming from the deep state government there. Looks like a big cover-up!
And do you remember those weird fires in California a while back? Mark Crispin Miller has been talking about them and posed a thoughtful question: “How could they be ‘forest fires’… if the forests weren’t on fire?” Look for yourselves at the images starting at 1:21 in the D.E.W. COMPILATION video linked above…. and especially at 2:35 in the video. The houses were on fire but not the trees.
And more recently in other areas, too:
Fires burning in Montana: Aug.18, 2023 and mandatory evacuation.
Click here for a list of states with fires.
Also, Canada’s NW Territories declared state of emergency on August 16, 2023.
Wildfires on Greek Islands Force Mass Evacuations (several weeks ago)
Once again, using the excuse of climate change, the global elite will burn us out if they can. After all, they have their direct energy weapons and their weather modification.
Here is what’s coming, if nothing changes:
https://static.securetherepublic.com/State-Documents/Arkansas/mpGqU4Yaiw-pic-of-how-smart-cities-will-lock-up-humanity-inside-open-air-concentration-camps.jpg
Another MUST SEE! How Smart Cities Will Lock Up Humanity Inside Open Air Concentration Camps
Some excerpts:
A Smart City is an urban environment with omnipresent surveillance and data harvesting technologies that will monitor and record even the most intimate, personal details of everyone.
The goal is to know everything about everybody: what you eat and drink, where you go, what you buy, who you meet, what you think, how you feel, your opinions, your habits, your health and vaccination status, and so on.
In order to make sure that everyone remains within the perimeter of data harvesting, movement in Smart Cities will be limited to 15 – 20 minutes from home. This concept has coined the phrase “15 Minute Cities” and is being promoted as the best idea ever for saving the planet from climate change.
Yes, these 5G Smart Cities pose a real and present danger to everyone!
And just how are they being implemented? The devastating fires on Maui are one tragic way.
Burning Lahaina to implement UN ‘Smart City’ — The global elite won’t be able to build “Smart Cities” unless they destroy the cities first. As mentioned previously, Hawaii plans to be the first US state to run entirely on “clean energy”.
The video mentions UN Agenda 2030 Sustainable Development Goals and that people see “Smart Cities” as “high tech”; they don’t see them for what they are: enslavement cities.
Maui. Massive Plasma Fires. Trees Burning From the Inside-Out. Media Coverup 8-10-2023 — This video (on mainstream media) shows a tree burning from the inside-out. Wildfires do NOT cause this.
What about food and water for the survivor victims?
MAUI NATIVE DISCLOSURE : Help And Supplies Turned Away By Military (posted 8/13/23)
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Residents are trying to bring in supplies like water, food, and gas… and are being turned away by the military. Also, legislation was proposed on Jan. 5, 2023: the next phase of the Villages of Leiali’i housing project calls for 250 units. DHHL is proposing a $75 million housing project on 51 acres located mauka [native language meaning: towards the mountains/ inland] of Lahaina Civic Center.
This was proposed EARLIER this year, and this is the same area as the devastating fires. This follows the United Nations Agenda 2030 plan as well.
Below are several snippets from the video linked above, posted in the Notes section by the man who posted the video:
Does this mean that someone wants the property owners’ land just like in Florida with Hurricane Ian?
FEMA was knocking on doors to buy your land for cash!
Ding, ding, ding!
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https://www.boeing.com/defense/missile-defense/directed-energy/
How does a Rouge Agency make money
– Create a disaster / steal the area blind while people are forcibly evacuated, especially search for guns specifically and then buying up huge Ocean Front Properties for vastly cheaper prices !!!!
I have seen that FEMA ships with those kooky octagon shaped dome radar thingies are sometimes seen trailing ( steering ? ) a hurricane’s path. – Tom
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This was just sent from an Oahu friend…
Many of the fatalities will be children who were at home because they canceled school. Parents worked and were not there to evacuate the children. Kids had no idea they needed to leave and by the time they noticed their homes or apartments were on fire, it was too late.
The government is worried about how we will react when we learn that the fire department left the fire earlier in the day and claimed it was 100% contained knowing that the winds were expected to be 70mph by the afternoon. This is against all fire control protocols. The fire department should not have left the original fire unattended. They are scared that the public calls for accountability will be more than they can control and protests and riots will occur.
They plan to lock down Lahaina for several months. It will take months to clean up the hazardous and environmental contamination. They won’t have enough housing for all the desperate displaced people.
There were 2,000 unaccounted for this morning. They have a list where they are trying to keep track. They found 700 today. But there are still 1300 missing.
They are very worried that the community is going to freak out when they find out how not a single fire truck responded to the fires. The emergency sirens were not activated (hurricane sirens) and loss of life could have been kept down by better emergency management which utterly failed.
I’m not trying to make waves or stir up problems but I was so angry and sad when I found out how many children are dead that I knew I had to post this and let everyone know what I have learned.
It’s time for our officials to stand up, tell the truth, and face the music. They failed Lāhainā guys. Our government is full of incompetent nepotism. The fire chief is the son of the former fire chief. We need to hold officials accountable for the mistakes they made.
God bless Maui and Lahaina! Pray for all the surviving victims.
https://rumble.com/v36z4wn-explosive-aerial-evidence-of-dew-attack-on-maui.html
https://rumble.com/v36w6yf-jan.-2023-tv-report-on-possible-chinese-use-of-lasers-on-hawaii.html
https://rumble.com/v36p1cl-probable-dew-weapon-strike-in-unusual-area-of-maui.html
https://rumble.com/v36c8jr-hawaii-fires-on-maui-081023.html
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While still calling the targeted Lahaina community tragic incident “wildfires”, the emergency management chief resigns. The truth is out, though, and they won’t be able to lie and downplay what actually happened there much longer. The body count grows everyday.
Maui’s emergency management chief resigns, citing health reasons, a day after he defended sirens’ silence during deadly wildfires
The administrator of Maui’s emergency management agency has resigned, citing health reasons, Maui County said Thursday – a day after he defended the silence of the island’s siren system last week during the deadliest US wildfire in more than 100 years.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ (ATF) National Response Team will help local authorities determine the cause of the wildfire, the agency said in a statement Thursday.
Can’t wait to hear the ATF analysis, they are such a “trustworthy” agency, especially given their unforgivable violent history dealing with Americans in this country; cases-in-point: Waco and Ruby Ridge.
In closing, we know who the Luciferian global elite are serving in order to carry out this satanic agenda, but our God is greater, whom we serve. So, choose a side; Satan’s time grows shorter. And yes, there ARE moral absolutes: right vs. wrong; truth vs. lies. There are no gray areas when it comes to this.
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Raskolnikov
20th August 2023, 05:32
Great recounting from a couple kids of what it was like to be in and survive the fire.
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Rizotto
20th August 2023, 08:23
Thanks Raskolnikov for this well done video, post # 211 above. I admit to not being able emotionally to view all the details over these now 11 pages above. I have a couple of questions that may have been discussed in the pages above, so I apologize if repeating these issues here.
1- Why in the world were the police blocking evacuation routes???
2- One of the boys said that a lot of the people in the water did not make it. Why? I understand it would be exhausting to stand in the water for 5 hours, but when it's the last resort... Did they die from asphyxiation from the smoke, or something else?
ExomatrixTV
20th August 2023, 09:11
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JP's parody is bar none. The whole video is worth watching. He did a great job (tasteful for such a tragic event) with the Maui part: 3:54 - 7:32
Be sure not to miss JP's underwear ad at the end. It had me ROTFLMAO. Had to watch it twice, I laughed so hard I missed half the jokes.
(It's better to go out laughing than to be black pilled into oblivion.)
What They Don’t Want You to Know About the Maui Fires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xam32zi4mvg
The Maui fire (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map) wasn't a "wildfire". It was strictly an urban fire and they are calling it a "wildfire" for two reasons: 1) blame climate change, and 2) restrict zoning laws to increase costs and limit buildable lands. Stop calling it a "wildfire".
Hawaii (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map), an island surrounded by water, couldn’t find water to put out the fires so they decided it was best to not sound the largest emergency alarm system in the US and had police block traffic out of the fires. THIS MAKES SENSE.
What would happen if all of JP's "lie to you news"- was true, and not pure comedy? 🤔 Oh, wait...🤨
Blaming 'climate change (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115447-Climate-Lockdowns-are-Coming--Agenda2030--Predicted-by-Conspiracy-Researchers-)' is the equivalent of accusing the tooth fairy.
So Hawai'i falsely warns their residents about a missile attack from North Korea but fails to warn them of a real fire...
Poor Maui. They did not want a 15-minute city (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum) built on them, but now have no other recourse but to allow it because nothing was left to protect. Damn, that's worse than corporational terrorism 🙄
“To defend their banana republic against democracy“…
norman
20th August 2023, 10:38
I've listened to Kerry Cassidy's take on things and have to say I think she's chasing the wrong rabbit, but what do I know. My confidence in the space force being the 'good guys' is nowhere near as high as Kerry's.
Recently, Jamie Walden appeared on the Common Sense Show and detailed how much of America's critical defence structure is located on the Island of Maui.
Interference in the function of the various organizations and institutions, severely endangers America's security and makes the US mainland vulnerable to attack by China. There also many other critical issues covered in this telling interview which can be accessed by clicking this (https://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/commonsenseshow/hr1081523.mp3) link.
KERRY CASSIDY: MAUI PEARL HABOR TYPE EVENT ATTACK ON SPACE FORCE
https://rumble.com/v38exuf-kerry-cassidy-maui-pearl-habor-type-event-attack-on-space-force.html
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mountain_jim
20th August 2023, 12:35
https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1693068619607867702?s=20
1693068619607867702
Raskolnikov
20th August 2023, 14:44
Thanks Raskolnikov for this well done video, post # 211 above. I admit to not being able emotionally to view all the details over these now 11 pages above. I have a couple of questions that may have been discussed in the pages above, so I apologize if repeating these issues here.
1- Why in the world were the police blocking evacuation routes???
2- One of the boys said that a lot of the people in the water did not make it. Why? I understand it would be exhausting to stand in the water for 5 hours, but when it's the last resort... Did they die from asphyxiation from the smoke, or something else?
Hi Rizotto, my two cents is we are truly living in the upside-down world.
1- Seems intentional, but can't say for sure. So on Jan 6 the cops don't stop the people and allow them into the Capitol and in Lahaina they do stop the people, truly Twilight Zone behavior that imho can only be intentional, especially in light of their obstruction of people receiving help.
2- That is exactly the same question my wife and I had after viewing the video - why did they die in the water? Again, I don't know, more questions than answers...
Harmony
20th August 2023, 15:15
To question 1, I cannot see any good reason this was done from what we know so far, blocking people from leaving an area while knowing the fire was approaching, it just doesn't make sense.
To question 2, I noticed from aerial photos that the waters edge came up to rocks for a very short distance, then to a manmade wall where you could see a railing along the top that had burned.
It wasn't a gradual sandy beach and was fairly deep when you see the boys and people standing in the water with cloths over their mouths tryig to stop the heavy smoke entering their lungs. With the smoke and wind and possible tide rise or current rip it may have been too much for the elderly, young children or just unfit poeple. The boys in the video said they were in the water for 5 hours. That's a long time and even if the water was a tropical tempeture it could still lower your overall body temp. People would have been in shock as well, so perhaps some were taken out by the tide where it was deeper and it was dark, it may have been quite difficult for some folk for sure. No one would have expected to be in the sea for so long.
Thanks Raskolnikov for this well done video, post # 211 above. I admit to not being able emotionally to view all the details over these now 11 pages above. I have a couple of questions that may have been discussed in the pages above, so I apologize if repeating these issues here.
1- Why in the world were the police blocking evacuation routes???
2- One of the boys said that a lot of the people in the water did not make it. Why? I understand it would be exhausting to stand in the water for 5 hours, but when it's the last resort... Did they die from asphyxiation from the smoke, or something else?
thepainterdoug
20th August 2023, 15:24
We certainly are living in an upside down world including it being inside out. We are at war! Period! There is a plan in effect to disorient the public, to confuse, obfuscate ,divide, exhaust and de spirit all good sane people who dont have the understanding that such evil and insanity could really exist. Its only the stuff of movies, and so when these players act out their parts, as with this police chief, people say, nooooo that cannot be, your mis interpreting what he is doing and saying, he is here to help and so on.
This is all very reminicent of the Nueremberg trials and statement made by the Nazis to the effect, tell a lie sooooo big that no one will ever believe its real, then you look like the nut telling others and never trusted again.
We can also see this now with Ivermectin. doctors are allowed to prescribe it. The statistics are amazing !! high recover rates etc. But the deed is already done, act one of their plan has succeeded in many ways and they are better equipped now to move to act two, coming up.
"Shadow of Ezra" (Cohen) on Telegram just put out a comment that , "the deep state does not consist of big tech ownersip, politicians, or celebrities, The deep state is the 13 evil families"
this resonates with me.
Raskolnikov
20th August 2023, 17:52
Governor of Hawaii suspended "historic housing" law in districts like Lahaina two weeks before fire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Izol9HnxI
Delight
20th August 2023, 18:04
We see the countless stories of similar bureaucratic obstructiveness and sabotage. Coincidence NOT.
Firestorm in the madhuse at the end of time (https://www.facebook.com/realsachastone/videos/sacha-stone-on-the-onset-of-sacrificial-molochite-fire-ritualism-courtesy-of-gov/838846491157232/)
8/20.2023
Sacha Stone on the onset of sacrificial Molochite fire ritualism courtesy of government, media and the Parent Corporation. Tribulation and Revelation are upon us.
Arise Homosapiens
Inversion
20th August 2023, 18:20
Just saying…🤷♂️
How in the world did the Maui firestorms miss this mysteriously unscathed house and property?!
https://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Screen-Shot-2023-08-16-at-6.24.17-PM.png
Yep http://https://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Screen-Shot-2023-08-16-at-6.24.17-PM.png
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=181068
Viking
The woman in this article owns the house in your image. Her statement below about the roof points to ariel or space based microwaves.
dailymail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12426177/Owner-Lahaina-miracle-house-one-spared-devastating-Maui-wildfire-shares-secrets-property-survived.html)
But the couple did recently replace the asphalt roof with a heavy-gauge metal one
Same house with the old roof.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/20/17/74529581-12426177-image-m-19_1692548416070.jpg
Arcturian108
20th August 2023, 19:13
https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1693068619607867702?s=20
1693068619607867702
Here is a possible answer why blue items didn't burn in the Lahaina fires:
https://twitter.com/WillingWitness/status/1693284442734051330
(https://twitter.com/WillingWitness/status/1693284442734051330)1693284442734051330
(https://twitter.com/WillingWitness/status/1693284442734051330)
Arcturian108
20th August 2023, 19:18
Mining Twitter these days for the latest on Lahaina. The following post by Eric J. Hecker (whose website is http://deciphering.tv, worked at a military facility in Antarctica and seems to know quite a bit about DEWs.
https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1693283510575112490
(https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1693283510575112490)1693283510575112490
(https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1693283510575112490)
Delight
20th August 2023, 19:21
https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1693068619607867702?s=20
1693068619607867702
Here is a possible answer why blue items didn't burn in the Lahaina fires:
https://twitter.com/WillingWitness/status/1693284442734051330
This is a kind of "proof"of DEWs.
1693284442734051330
Eric J (Viking)
20th August 2023, 19:31
https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1693068619607867702?s=20
1693068619607867702
Here is a possible answer why blue items didn't burn in the Lahaina fires:
https://twitter.com/WillingWitness/status/1693284442734051330
OMG…. That’s pretty groundbreaking….thanks Delight… Arcturian…
😳
Viking
Raskolnikov
20th August 2023, 19:44
Excellent finds and teamwork mountain_jim and Arcturian108, definitely lends credence to the theory that laser/microwave tech was employed in Lahaina.
This is worth a listen. The fact-checking is mind-numbingly idiotic and legal sleight-of-hand at it's worst.
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Pris
20th August 2023, 20:47
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As far as I'm concerned, that guy isn't a "police chief", he's a trusted goon sent in by the globalists. His orders were to maximize the death count during this (yet another) orchestrated disaster event. He's a full-blown terrorist dressed up in policeman's clothing.
F'ing A Pris, couldn't agree more, he's straight outta The Three Stooges.
On the world's most intelligent conspiracy site, I'm gonna go full tin foil hat. This is all I can think about lately - The Great Reset? Feast your eyes on the similarities:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQCPf1f7YWU
"The Three Stooges" is right. ;p Well, as for going all-out tin-foil hat, who really knows, right? If they've sequestered hi tech from us for decades, perhaps they've had hi tech for centuries. All I know is since I'm not an expert on how fires burn, the fact that living trees keep standing (burned to a crisp -- turned into charcoal) may simply be completely natural and we're trying to read too much conspiracy into everything. It's no surprise we have a knee-jerk reaction to these psychopaths because, without question, they're constantly attacking us on all fronts. But, it's good not to get too pulled into seeing conspiracy in everything.
Things we can focus on are things like BlackRock having something to do with the electrical/utility grid and letting it go to pot... "Policemen" that endanger people's lives instead of saving lives (who are these people and who gave them their orders?)... why the sirens didn't go off (who gave that instruction?)... With so much data being collected from cell phone conversations, for example, maybe that can be investigated to see if "government officials" colluded together to take down Lahaina. EVERYONE needs to be suspect and anyone who tries to shut up the public for demanding answers (like what they've done with the PLANdemic "virus" and death jabs to the 2020 presidential election being stolen) needs to be the FIRST INVESTIGATED. When people have concerns, it is your duty to take them seriously and let them speak -- you don't call them "conspiracy theorists" and censor them because that makes you suspect! You are HIDING SOMETHING.
It is suspicious behavior when "authority figures" ridicule and discredit the public (and the victim's families!) for questioning this whole so-called "wildfire" as a possible land grab for the "elites" since we know for a fact that they've had their eye on the land for a very long time and have already been making blatant moves the entire time to take it over bit by bit.
Pris
20th August 2023, 21:03
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https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1693068619607867702?s=20
1693068619607867702
Here is a possible answer why blue items didn't burn in the Lahaina fires:
https://twitter.com/WillingWitness/status/1693284442734051330
This is a kind of "proof"of DEWs.
1693284442734051330
This is not proof. I'm just going to say right away how easy this "experiment" is to fake. We don't know if all the other cloths have combustible material on them. The blue cloth may be dampened with water etc. Somebody can easily put up a BS video in the hopes that it goes viral -- anything to make a buck. The focus is on BLUE right now just because there were some blue umbrellas and a blue car seemingly left untouched by the flames (if you look carefully at the photo of the blue car, there is a white car near it that also looks mostly intact). The internet is a rumor mill.
Some people see Jesus in burned toast. So often our minds play tricks on us and we see what we want to see and don't even realize we're twisting reality to fit our preconceived ideas and beliefs.
To be fair, there may be something to the idea that with the light spectrum and the way COLORS absorb and/or deflect, say, a laser beam, some items might ignite while others won't. Just learn to keep things in perspective and continuously question everything -- especially your own "conclusions".
Denise/Dizi
20th August 2023, 21:25
Trees tend to always remain after fires push through their area, they always have... Their frons, and leaves, and sometimes bark, will burn, but they are wet inside... Try to light a wet "fresh cut tree branch" for a fire, good luck... This is why the trees are still standing, and also why people "Season" (Or let dry).. firewood, before selling it for use. Otherwise they will not burn...
Dried wood, used for building, is very flammable... Hence building gone, trees still standing.
And the vehicles, many on the islands are treated for rust. As the water is salt water, the vehicles on the island tend to "Rust out".. THAT treatment may be highly flammable.. At the very least, if someone truly wants to do actual research for how the cars all burned so badly, it is a place to start, before jumping right to a DEW...
Most of them are built out of composite materials and are no longer the heavy metal vehicles we used to get in the 60's and 70's... The bumpers rubber or plastic, or some form of composite material, probably highly flammable, the hub caps, plastic... And the bodies of the vehicles themselves, have alloys in them, that even allow you to dent them, and they just "Pop back out"... So they probably are also highly flammable. (As are their interiors)...
I just wanted to add some more reason to the conversation, as some comparisons are being made, in some of these videos, that leave me shaking my head, as those creating the videos are fast to jump to "similarities within fires", without pondering anything other than, it was staged... Rather than the actual elements of the entire disaster, such as why one thing would burn, and not another, or one would collapse and not another...
Just trying to be helpful, and remind people that proof is required if indeed it WAS a DEW.. And maybe these are topics that could be researched, for the temperatures at which some of these things need to burn... etc... We cannot bash the MSM if we too, do nothing but shock videos without even considering the facts as important to the outcome.
mojo
20th August 2023, 22:46
remember from our previous article (posted 8/13/2023), there were many, MANY vehicles with melted rims, melted glass, missing door handles, and melted engine blocks!!! Since when do wildfires cause such devastation? And note that there is NO foliage around those cars TO burn. “Embers that blow in the wind” do not cause this level of incredible damage and destruction. Directed energy weapons and electricity-based plasma fires do, though.
This quote above is from onawah's detailed post on page 11. As far as proof our government has already admitted to having DEWs and the Maui fire is very suspicious. I wonder if the tech was used to start other wildfires such as the large Canadian fires that sent tons of smoke over New York city? I dont think the evil cabal would stop at setting one fire and it definitely helps to create a narrative that the great reset is needed to fight climate change.
Raskolnikov
20th August 2023, 23:35
This is not proof...Just learn to keep things in perspective and continuously question everything -- especially your own "conclusions".
Excellent points Pris, thank you. I'm just gonna say two words - blue umbrellas.
DNA
21st August 2023, 00:27
I just want to say thank you to everyone researching and contributing to this thread.
My research is coming to this thread and telling my friends what is being reported here.
The blue umbrella blue car thing is crazy. Just crazy.
Is there any more data to cooberate the science behind that.
Thank you all
Raskolnikov
21st August 2023, 00:56
The blue umbrella blue car thing is crazy. Just crazy. Is there any more data to cooberate the science behind that.
I second that notion. Again, not a scientist so my face tends to fall into the soup when attempting to do such research, but we need some backup data. I know some of you out there are on the case. Calling all scientists and meticulous PA researchers!
Patient
21st August 2023, 00:59
I saw videos from earlier in the day and the amount of wind that town had to deal with was already causing a lot of damage. This was before there was any smoke visible in the air (the video was about the wind as no fires were mentioned yet) - there were wires down across a street and siding from some buildings blowing by.
A couple other points - I have lived in a small town with similar geography. Considering that the town was a beach town, the road access in and out of the town would be very limited. One tree falling across a major road would be enough to cause major traffic problems.
In an emergency situation a roadway is always blocked to allow emergency vehicles to get through.
There would have been many factors in play that would have contributed to a lot of quick decisions and changes made by emergency responders.
Arcturian108
21st August 2023, 01:14
One thing that I researched a few days ago and forgot to post has to do with plastic not burning when hit with microwave energy, as in microwave ovens. When the first videos of the devastation in Lahaina was shown I was hoping to see intact plastic garbage bins on the streets, but I saw none. So I thought about this a bit, and decided to research what were the garbage days in Lahaina. I did this through the county government website and found a street map of Lahaina which listed the pickup days on each street. So what I discovered is that Lahaina pickup days were Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, but never on a Tuesday, which was the day the firestorm hit (Tuesday, August 8th).
Raskolnikov
21st August 2023, 01:53
It's happening all over the world. We are under attack. For more fires around the world linked to the Smart City 2030 Agenda join us on Ravenlocke's thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121720-Spokane-County-Washington-declared-state-of-emergency-due-to-fires-Medical-Lake-town-lost-185-structures&p=1573139&viewfull=1#post1573139
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Matthew
21st August 2023, 04:03
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This Local Woman from Maui points out the flaw of the logic that been pushed by the State of Hawaii's officials
"The firefighters were sent somewhere else" 🧐
Nick Sorton is a journalist who travelled to Maui to investigate and talk to locals.
Someone he didn't know found him in an isolated location in Maui which is spooky on its own, then remember they have no internet atm.
https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1692958536085459174
Nick Sortor
@nicksortor
🚨 Just HOURS after I began pressing the mayor of Maui SUPER hard about children missing from the fire, I began being stalked, harassed, and intimidated.
This morning at 5:45 am, about 2 mins after I started my live shot with Steve Bannon on War Room while alone in the rear of my hotel, a stalker aggressively approached me from behind.
My hotel is 45 minutes from Lahaina.
I don’t know who this guy is or why he showed up to my hotel at 5:45 am. He would’ve had NO WAY of knowing I had a live shot scheduled.
I’ve even received SEVERAL death threats from "anonymous" users (aka cowards) over the past days, and ESPECIALLY the last 12 hours.
Although I now have to move hotels, get a new rental car, and possibly even HIRE SECURITY to travel around with me for my own safety, I WILL NOT BE DETERRED.
If anything, I will be MORE vocal. Stalking and harassing me WILL backfire—I promise you that.
I don't trust the Maui, Hawaii, or US governments. They're all lying. They know the truth, but they're hiding it from the public.
— WHY IS THERE STILL A MASSIVE MEDIA BLACKOUT?
— WHY DID THEY LIE ABOUT THE SIRENS?
— WHY ARE RESIDENTS BANNED FROM VISITING THEIR HOMES?
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ON MAUI?
<Short video of Nick filming himself, then a man approaches him from behind addressing Nick by his name saying was trying to get him on X (twitter), and asking Nick if he's here to interview locals, and accusing Nick of taking tents although Nick refuted it>
Another independent journalist has said he has also been harassed with messages of threats and death threats: (link to Geoff Cygnus' tweet (https://twitter.com/CygnusGeoff/status/1693384891315196305))
Pris
21st August 2023, 09:32
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It's happening all over the world. We are under attack. For more fires around the world linked to the Smart City 2030 Agenda join us on Ravenlocke's thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121720-Spokane-County-Washington-declared-state-of-emergency-due-to-fires-Medical-Lake-town-lost-185-structures&p=1573139&viewfull=1#post1573139
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Right now the globalists are pushing their scam "climate change" terrorist fear porn so they can justify their Agenda 2030. Of course, it's the perfect cover to attack nations by burning regions to the ground and blame it on "wild fires". However, in order to really know if the number of fires burning worldwide by region is the normal average or an attack against us, someone needs to find the data on seasonal records for fire activity going back at least 10 years to do a comparison. The current fires burning worldwide may be quite normal for this time of the year.
In the northern hemisphere, it's summer right now, August. It is the hottest, driest month of the year where I live, semi-desert. Being summer, we've had practically no rain for weeks now. Currently, there are three large fires burning in my area, however, it is quite normal to have at least one or two large fires burning around this time. It's been very dark, the smoke heavy and thick. From what I can tell, it's filling the entire region. It's like an ash tray. It was so thick today, I couldn't even see the sun. As I've said, this is a fairly common occurrence in this region for this time of the year.
Vangelo
21st August 2023, 10:51
... However, in order to really know if the number of fires burning worldwide by region is the normal average or an attack against us, someone needs to find the data on seasonal records for fire activity going back at least 10 years to do a comparison. The current fires burning worldwide may be quite normal for this time of the year.
In the northern hemisphere, it's summer right now, August. It is the hottest, driest month of the year where I live, semi-desert. Being summer, we've had practically no rain for weeks now. ...
I live in the state of Massachusetts (USA) and this has easily been the rainiest summer in 50 years, no question about it. So I agree, "someone needs to find the data on seasonal records for fire activity going back at least 10 years to do a comparison. The current fires burning worldwide may be quite normal..."
Gwin Ru
21st August 2023, 13:07
[...]
Nick Sorton is a journalist who travelled to Maui to investigate and talk to locals.
Someone he didn't know found him in an isolated location in Maui which is spooky on its own, then remember they have no internet atm.
[...]
Nick Sortor
@nicksortor
🚨 Just HOURS after I began pressing the mayor of Maui SUPER hard about children missing from the fire, I began being stalked, harassed, and intimidated.
This morning at 5:45 am, about 2 mins after I started my live shot with Steve Bannon on War Room while alone in the rear of my hotel, a stalker aggressively approached me from behind.
My hotel is 45 minutes from Lahaina.
I don’t know who this guy is or why he showed up to my hotel at 5:45 am. He would’ve had NO WAY of knowing I had a live shot scheduled.
[...]Another independent journalist has said he has also been harassed with messages of threats and death threats: (link to Geoff Cygnus' tweet (https://twitter.com/CygnusGeoff/status/1693384891315196305))... internet of bodies (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121710-De-platformed-Humans...-The-Internet-of-Soulless-Bodies...) anyone?
As for colored lasers, those properties are used for eye surgeries... green lasers cauterize red blood vessels whereas red lasers pop up green balloons...
pyrangello
21st August 2023, 14:43
Intriguing Observation By Pilot On Recent Maui Fires
August 20, 2023 7:53 pm by CWR
While “independent” and social media videos are pushing the mismanagement of government, agencies #FEMA and #RedCross to push the Problem —–> Reaction part of the Hegelian dialectic, there is some serious censorship of commercial pilots that took place on August 8th (the day of the “fires” in Lahaina).
https://citizenwatchreport.com/intriguing-observation-by-pilot-on-recent-maui-fires/
Sérénité
21st August 2023, 15:06
The video below between two gentlemen gives first hand witness statements of what was seen on the run up to the destruction of Lahaina.
The older gentleman explains he was walking to safety and seen several streets with cars back to back traffic jammed, waiting to escape.
He seen mothers with babies and people walking by him accept lifts into these cars hoping to escape the fire quickly.
But he decided to carry on walking and to his dismay, street after street was blocked with cars tailed back.
Yet there was no obvious obstruction other than police standing in the road blocking the traffic.
The younger man states he has had multiple witness statements speaking out that, on other routes, police patrol cars where the only visible obstruction stopping all these cars from fleeing to safety.
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Raskolnikov
21st August 2023, 15:14
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https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121720-Spokane-County-Washington-declared-state-of-emergency-due-to-fires-Medical-Lake-town-lost-185-structures&p=1573139&viewfull=1#post1573139
Right now the globalists are pushing their scam "climate change" terrorist fear porn so they can justify their Agenda 2030. Of course, it's the perfect cover to attack nations by burning regions to the ground and blame it on "wild fires". However, in order to really know if the number of fires burning worldwide by region is the normal average or an attack against us, someone needs to find the data on seasonal records for fire activity going back at least 10 years to do a comparison.
You could start there, but I think a better place to start is the paper trail, the documentation that proves (unfortunately, maybe only to the non-flouride drinkers here, at least until we attain all the documents) the ulterior motive and agenda behind many of these fires, and that's why I pointed to the two videos in the other thread, odd how many of these fires burned where there are plans for a 15 minute smart city, and then don't they have to burn everyone out of the rural areas in order to get them into these cities as well? Frankly, at this point in the game, it's difficult for me to avoid calling it an attack after 911, Covid (mask mandates returning in September, will the herd comply), the bioweapon masquerading as a vaccine, etc., but that's a subject for another thread I suppose. Maybe it was a little off topic, for that I apologize, but I'm a big picture kind of guy and it's getting difficult not to think of the bigger picture when viewing so many deaths (murders). There's documentation for "green" Lahaina and there's blue umbrellas...
palehorse
21st August 2023, 16:13
I don't remember seen any posts with this map of the fires across Canada and US.
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/usfs/map/#d:24hrs;@-111.0,40.6,4.0z
Bill Ryan
21st August 2023, 17:07
I don't remember seen any posts with this map of the fires across Canada and US.
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/usfs/map/#d:24hrs;@-111.0,40.6,4.0zThat's an interactive map, well worth visiting, but here's a screenshot: :thumbsup:
https://projectavalon.net/North_American_fires_screenshot.jpg
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/null/5239328e-584a-48e1-bac1-2b386649c503
Raskolnikov
21st August 2023, 17:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJZRurmRWOM
"I don't know who this guy was but he probably saved my life. There was a guy packing three kids on his motorcycle. He stopped to talk to the lady in the car in front of me and he told her, 'Cousin I love you, but you gotta turn around because if you continue to head into Lahaina you're not going to make it out alive. The fire is taking over Taco Bell and it's burning down Front Street. I love you. I don't know if I'll ever see you again, but I gotta go, I gotta get my kids to safety.' Once I heard that I realized I didn't know where my safe place was, and the only option I had at that point was to turn around and go back to work." She sheltered for days in the hotel at which she worked with many other survivors. "We ran out of everything, you know, we ran out of everything including our patience and our sanity at some points because there was a lot of upset people, there was a lot of emotional hotel workers there, there was a lot of sad stories. My team members coming back to work smelling like fire, in ash, black, crying, telling me, 'I don't have nothing left except this shirt, can I please stay here?"
Pris
21st August 2023, 19:23
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https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121720-Spokane-County-Washington-declared-state-of-emergency-due-to-fires-Medical-Lake-town-lost-185-structures&p=1573139&viewfull=1#post1573139
Right now the globalists are pushing their scam "climate change" terrorist fear porn so they can justify their Agenda 2030. Of course, it's the perfect cover to attack nations by burning regions to the ground and blame it on "wild fires". However, in order to really know if the number of fires burning worldwide by region is the normal average or an attack against us, someone needs to find the data on seasonal records for fire activity going back at least 10 years to do a comparison.
You could start there, but I think a better place to start is the paper trail, the documentation that proves (unfortunately, maybe only to the non-flouride drinkers here, at least until we attain all the documents) the ulterior motive and agenda behind many of these fires, and that's why I pointed to the two videos in the other thread, odd how many of these fires burned where there are plans for a 15 minute smart city, and then don't they have to burn everyone out of the rural areas in order to get them into these cities as well? Frankly, at this point in the game, it's difficult for me to avoid calling it an attack after 911, Covid (mask mandates returning in September, will the herd comply), the bioweapon masquerading as a vaccine, etc., but that's a subject for another thread I suppose. Maybe it was a little off topic, for that I apologize, but I'm a big picture kind of guy and it's getting difficult not to think of the bigger picture when viewing so many deaths (murders). There's documentation for "green" Lahaina and there's blue umbrellas...
There's no question there's something fishy about Lahaina. I do think the fire was ALLOWED to burn and somebody wanted to wipe out the population. For me, it's about following the evidence, what we know for a fact.
I'm still very suspicious of the Smart Meter angle. If the "officials" never bring up that subject, there's a clue. My research into those things... they are made out of the crappiest, cheapest materials (made in China... hmmm), never had to pass safety standards (imagine that!), and were DEPLOYED worldwide in many countries all at the same time (replacing the much safer all-metal analog meters). They completely ignored public outcry and forced these meters onto homes and businesses anyway.
Smart Meters spy on our electrical usage and they can be linked into the Internet of Things (that means, if I got this right, they can know exactly what kinds of electronic products you use and even track that hidden RF chip in the sole of the sneaker you brought home from Walmart). Best of all, Smart Meters are prone to arcing (heavy sarcasm, never store propane tanks near those things). And, when they blow up, they can chain react -- send feedback, power surge? -- to all the other Smart Meters they are interlinked with (because they're meant to wirelessly bounce data from one to another -- broadcasting EMFs [sending/receiving data], which is why they are such a health hazard on top of everything else [not the safer analog sine wave energy traveling through wires, instead microwave energy bursts that chops into your cells, damaging your DNA]-- I saw slides showing EMF cell damage by an ex-military person doing lectures in our region at the height of the Smart Meter controversy). And, anyone can hack into Smart Meters and study your electricity usage. Criminals can tell when you're home or not. But, I digress.
Back to Lahaina (I'm assuming they used Smart Meters), I'm thinking that if the fire started because of a downed power line that managed to set off even one Smart Meter (combined with BlackRock's having neglected repair of Lahaina's electrical system [that's very suspicious]), that could set off a chain reaction. Each home would literally have its own bomb ready to blow up which is kind of like what the damage looks like to me. This could also explain why certain Smart Meters on certain structures owned by certain individuals... may have had an electronic "firewall" so-to-speak to prevent them from receiving feedback and blowing up like everyone else (if you get my meaning).
Yes, 15 minute cities, the concept is vile (now's the time to move into the countryside en masse). Yes, those few standing blue umbrellas are a bit odd, but fires do burn unpredictably. Are there many other videos/photos of blue items left untouched? If we have, say, dozens of examples of blue items left unscathed by the fire at the center of the devastation (to clearly show nothing else nearby [in colors other than blue] survived intact), that would be interesting to see...
Raskolnikov
21st August 2023, 20:08
Each home would literally have its own bomb ready to blow up which is kind of like what the damage looks like to me.
Maybe something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXRdpOobHCg
Pris
21st August 2023, 20:35
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Each home would literally have its own bomb ready to blow up which is kind of like what the damage looks like to me.
Maybe something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXRdpOobHCg
:shocked: Holy sh*te! EXACTLY!! :gaah:
To be clear, it could be the cause of a gas leak... But, something I've heard before (in these recent years), when an explosion like this happens, the firefighters/first responders are instructed to collect the Smart Meter remains/evidence and remove it from the scene before any "official" investigation into the explosion takes place. It's the same for fires. "Officially", it seems that Smart Meters are never the cause of fires or explosions (and don't you dare suggest otherwise). Instead, for example, they'll blame it on the home/business owner's so-called "faulty wiring". (It's just like how COVID death-jabs were always touted as "safe and effective" while the "health experts" actively hid/ignored any evidence contrary to that claim and still do to this day.)
Raskolnikov
21st August 2023, 21:39
To be clear, it could be the cause of a gas leak... But, something I've heard before (in these recent years), when an explosion like this happens, the firefighters/first responders are instructed to collect the Smart Meter remains/evidence and remove it from the scene before any "official" investigation into the explosion takes place. It's the same for fires. "Officially", it seems that Smart Meters are never the cause of fires or explosions (and don't you dare suggest otherwise). Instead, for example, they'll blame it on the home/business owner's so-called "faulty wiring". (It's just like how COVID death-jabs were always touted as "safe and effective" while the "health experts" actively hid/ignored any evidence contrary to that claim and still do to this day.)
They ruled out gas leak as the cause, the plot thickens. The official clearing of the Smart Meters before the investigation reminded me of the self-driving cars that started up in San Francisco a few years back. We've got a fire fighter friend down there and she told us that these cars were causing a lot of problems for the fire fighters. They would not pull off to the side, would block traffic and they couldn't get them to move, sometimes they would even block the fire house so that their trucks couldn't leave. It was becoming such a serious problem that they even had to blame these cars for a few unnecessary deaths. But when they tried to report the problem their superiors stopped them. She said some powerful interests way up the food chain had instructed the fire chief that he must never allow the self-driving cars to be reported as the source of any problems because this would look bad for the companies!
Here's another vid comparing Tenerife to Maui, supposed to be another 15 minutes smart island:
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