Burning Man 2023 - A Muddy Mess and Potential Disaster

[Sue (Ayt)]

Due to rain and mud, it looks like Burning Man has turned into a muddy mess, and even a potential disaster.

Apparently, due to the mess, all traffic both in and out has been stopped, and the people there are unable to leave. Supplies are unable to be brought in, and port-a-potties are not able to be serviced. The festival goers have been asked to remain in their tents and rv's and to conserve food and water.

(speculation - It could just serve as a hotbed excuse for the spread of some infectious disease or new covid once the festival goers leave and spread out all over the country...?)

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There may not be Ebola at Burning Man, but hypothermia, stomach bugs, and food-borne illness will be a problem if storm conditions persist
Sep 2, 2023, 9:43 PM CDT


This year's Burning Man was hit with nearly an inch of rain, causing flooding at the desert campsite.

Rumors swirled online about stranded attendees getting sick with Ebola due to dirty, wet conditions.

While Ebola isn't likely, one doctor told Insider, some infectious diseases and hypothermia are.


After storm conditions flooded the site of this year's Burning Man festival, rumors online were quick to swirl about a possible Ebola outbreak impacting the thousands of stranded burners still out on the playa.

Users on X, formerly known as Twitter, circulated fake posts from the CDC about an outbreak, claimed to have tested positive for the disease, and joked about a quarantine zone above the festival.

While an Ebola outbreak would be of grave concern if it were found at the camp due to its high rate of transmissibility, there is no evidence that anyone at the event has contracted the disease, Forbes reported. Representatives for Burning Man have not issued a statement on the rumors.

One general practice physician who has previously attended the festival told Insider an Ebola outbreak is unlikely — but other infectious diseases and health concerns are still a genuine risk due to current conditions on the ground at Black Rock City.
https://i.insider.com/64f3d5291b7ced0019c77370?width=700&format=jpeg

Attendees who remain at the event report filthy, flooded conditions at their campsites, which are so muddy that vehicles cannot travel through, and port-a-potties that cannot be serviced due to the rain. Even celebrity attendees like Chris Brown and Diplo reported walking five miles and hitching a ride with fans to get out of the area.

The Los Angeles-based physician, who requested anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the press in his current role, said recent weather conditions put stranded attendees at risk of hypothermia if they cannot get warm and dry. He added that the longer burners are stranded, the greater their likelihood of falling ill with COVID-19, food poisoning, and hygiene-related stomach bugs as essential cleaning supplies get low.

"If it rains again, which is going to prevent people from being able to use their vehicles for another three to four days, people are gonna get stranded there, and there's gonna be a resource crunch," the physician told Insider. "The port-a-potties are probably going to start overflowing, and that's gonna mix with the mud and the rain, and it's going to possibly spread infectious diseases."

He added: "As the days go on, and people realize that they're not going to have enough water to do dishes with, there's going to be a lot more sanitation issues and hygiene issues. And so I think people may start getting a little bit more desperate, and we may start seeing people getting sick if they don't find a way of getting out of there fast."

The desert festival site has been hit with nearly an inch of rain since Friday night — nearly three months worth of rainfall for the region, CNN reported, which is easily flooded due to its dry climate. The storm conditions are likely to continue in the coming days.

The Bureau of Land Management, which holds jurisdiction over the land Burning Man is held on, said in a statement to Insider that roads to the campsite had been closed and that "participants inbound for the event should turn around and head home."

"Rain over the last 24 hours has created a situation that required a full stop of vehicle movement on the playa," the BLM statement read. "More rain is expected over the next few days and conditions are not expected to improve enough to allow vehicles to enter the playa."

Burning Man organizers and representatives for the National Guard and Nevada Governor's office did not immediately respond to requests for comment from Insider.
https://www.insider.com/burning-man-flood-ebola-hypothermia-doctor-risk-hygiene-illness-storm-2023-9

[sllim11]

not to mention vegas flooding right now. i dont know how to upload tiktoks but vegas and burning man are literally a **** show right now. i've lived in los angeles for 30 years and there has never been rain end of august beginning of september , my ex has lived here his whole life and was commenting on the same thing.. never happened.... and i am thinking are they doing this so people really believe in climate change. just thinking. have no idea obviously speculation but thing that make you go hmm.

[norman]

STRANDED At Burning Man!! Mayhem Coming?!?!

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For some unknown but creepy reason the Travis Scott concert incident in late 2020 comes to mind.

[Richter]

Burning Man 2023 Rain Aftermath (17:33)
Drone flight of Burning Man 2023 after the Friday night rain storm.
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Saturday Morning Muck Flood, Burning Man 2023 (4:26)
After a steady rain for much of the night, Burning Man has become a shallow lake of muck.
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[Bill Ryan]

One could say that this year's Burning Man catastrophe. was symbolic:

https://edition.cnn.com/style/burning-man-ukraine-box-phoenix/index.html
(https://edition.cnn.com/style/burning-man-ukraine-box-phoenix/index.html)
At Burning Man, a 26-foot tall box sculpture paid fiery tribute to Ukraine

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230831084525-01-burning-man-phoenix-ukraine.jpg?c=16x9&q=h_720,w_1280,c_fill

In the early hours of Thursday, in the middle of the ephemeral city that rises in Nevada’s Black Rock Desert each summer, a 26-foot-tall, 13-foot-wide box was set ablaze. The flames formed a column in the sky, engulfing the wooden tower for over 20 minutes before it collapsed to reveal a secret monument hidden within: a giant steel phoenix representing the resilience of war-torn Ukraine.

[John Hilton]

Some are saying that the flooding is "divine retribution". I prefer to call it geoengineering.

[norman]

https://t.me/tiktoknews45/20215

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[thepainterdoug]

Woodstock was a thousand times more packed and intense. But this seems like, if they chose to, a perfect contained time to do a little experiment .

The" they "that is.

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/TheWakeninq/status/1698308295235100910?s=20

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[Richter]

00:31 - 02:50: Horror shocking Burning Man
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[Inversion]

Here's some foreign news about the festival. If there are future events there, I see the potential for a Mad Max (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyF7hMH0sXY) scenario.

03/03/23

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqPSBe8Mo4o

History of Burning Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Man#Principles)

On June 22, 1986, Larry Harvey, Jerry James, and a few friends met on Baker Beach in San Francisco[21][22] and burned an 8 feet (2.4 m) tall wooden man as well as a smaller wooden dog."]On June 22, 1986, Larry Harvey, Jerry James, and a few friends met on Baker Beach in San Francisco[21][22] and burned an 8 feet (2.4 m) tall wooden man as well as a smaller wooden dog.


It's interesting that the temporary city is called Black Rock City and the thing they burn is called The Man. Is Blackrock Inc. the man?
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/22/18/41A5CF7700000578-4625576-image-a-80_1498153308873.jpg

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1698104331650683333?s=20

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[Denise/Dizi]

I have mixed feelings about the situation happening right now in the Black Rock Dessert... Please don't think me to be heartless. I do feel for those in this situation... BUT...

Many of these people are not "suffering" at all... They have brought motorhomes, and have all the creature comforts known to man within their own homes... Those who took trailers and tents were foolish to do so.... It is their lack of planning and possibilities of "poor outcomes", that will dictate whether they are able to deal with the surrounding environment in the end...

I live in an area where the weather experiences all four seasons, and it never ceases to amaze me, when people will pull over in a snow storm, without chains, or food or water in their vehicles around Donner Summit.... Yes, THE DONNER SUMMIT, where people were forced into cannibalism to survive the harsh environment... Yet people still cross that summit as if they are crossing "a playground of safety..." It only takes one dead battery off the beaten path, to equal death there... And they find many in their vehicles frozen to death, who got stuck on "closed" roads...

The ill prepared will be in their vehicles in shorts and T Shirts, wearing sandals, relying only on the heater in their vehicles, and the safety of a cell phone (that gets zero signal in a snow storm), for their feelings of "safety"... until they can no longer gain traction on the roads...

They left good weather and plan to arrive in good weather on the other side, so they discount the possibility of a tragic situation in the crossing...

These same individuals will never have chains in their vehicles, water, or foods, and will be surprised to find themselves in this situation... REALLY? And what surprises them the most is a lack of cellular service... This surprises you?

I have quite literally stopped my vehicle in the snow, and gotten out, to get them chains... (Measuring their tires, while on my own trek over the mountain into Reno)... and then actually put the chains on the vehicles of grown men, again, sitting in the warmth of their own vehicle, while wearing sandals and shorts, because not only did they not have them, they couldn't handle the cold long enough to put them on, nor did they have a clue how to do so!!! I have bought said chains with my own money, and them installed them, without so much as a "Thank You", or an offer to reimbursement once they got home...

After doing this several times in one trip, I didn't feel sorry for them, I got pissed off that these people expect others to "Save them" because they're too stupid to plan ahead... Fortunately for them, I know they probably have families who would like to see them again... But it is frustrating, when a truck with two ladies in it, both having Multiple Sclerosis, has to stop and save grown men from their own bad decisions, or lack of planning...

As for Burning Man... Anyone who lives in my area, knows that this area is rife with it's own sets of challenges... I am an hour from Reno.... Maybe an hour and a half with traffic, so many know both areas well... And their climates and challenges...

They knowingly took themselves, and their vehicles, to a location that has nearly ZERO water absorption... And soil, with a texture of fine silken powder. It was once water, it turns to mucky mush when wet, just a lake bottoms do...

If they had ever asked an individual who had been to "Burning Man" in the past, they would have been told to "take plastic" to protect their vehicles from the dust, as it "takes to the air" in the wind storms. And also to make sure to carry handkerchiefs and apparatus for allowing them to both see, and breathe during said wind storms... And you will see people wearing THOSE things in all the videos, but what about a rainstorm??? Those are unusual this time of the year, but not impossible.

They didn't think ahead, and make sure to cover for any eventuality, and only have themselves to blame... Most of them, just like the Donner Pass fools, are still wearing nothing more than shorts and T shirts... I am sure very few packed a stash of warm clothing for multiple changes should they need them... And they're barefoot because they probably only brought one pair of shoes they're trying to protect from getting wet and muddy...

Many don't even pack enough food for the trip, and instead, rely on bartering "Shiny Baubles" during the party.... Because that is what Burning Man truly is.... A party... And they don't (Or didn't used to) exchange money for things, but rather "trade..." Burning Man is a place, where people dance around half naked, if not fully naked.... Most wasted on their drug of choice... Protected from prying eyes, behaving in whatever uninhabited way they so desire...

There is a group of very talented artists, and sculptors there as well... And some of their creations are mind blowing, I must admit. But many are so excited about going they put very little, to any effort into preparing for any eventuality... And apparently the planners did not as well....

Essentially they're "Stuck in the mud... "

Now here is where we see if they're really smart or not.. Will they just pee in the mud? Or keep it away from contaminating the entire Playa... by way of collecting their urine in empty containers? Will they be stupid, essentially, walking through body waste? Versus being intelligent and trying not to make themselves sick....

They can chopper in supplies, it isn't like they are stranded in a third world country... (But their lack of respect for nature will quickly make it feel like one...)

For anyone to call this a "National Emergency" is ridiculous. It is "regional" at best, and limited to those they choose not to help at this point, as we have the technology such as hovercraft to get supplies to them... Helicopters, etc... Will they spend their profits to harness these efforts? THAT should be the question... Because THAT is where the responsibility lies... With the planners and participants... THEY CAN BE lifted to safety and come back to recover their vehicles... So let's see what happens...

While many are surely miserable that their "Party" turned into a sticky mess, there will be those happy to be able to claim "I made it through the disaster of 2023 at Burning Man"...

What boggles my mind, is that many didn't plan for such a thing... Or leave the moment it started to rain, didn't they research what could happen in the soil caught too much rain? It essentially has nowhere to go as the soil can't absorb it. This boils down to a lack of personal accountability to the situation they placed themselves into...

I KNOW I SOUND COLD HERE... But I am so frustrated with kind people having to exercise their own sense of copability and support for others that just do stupid things...

Where is the personal accountability? Sure we want them all to get home safely but we are quickly turning into a nation that expects the government to save us from our own poor decisions, and it is a disturbing trend in my opinion. Yes help them, but learn from it...

But at what point do people take their own safety and well being into their own hands? We are talking about 75,000- to 80,000 people here... (I do not know how many are still there, it does appear many have actually left already)...

After dealing with these individuals rolling through our town, driving vehicles that appear for all intents and purposes, as if they got stuck in a dust tunnel, while they empty their trash bags into our neighbors trash cans, (Forcing them to pay for the clean up)... rather than taking them home for disposal? I am sick of this privileged "We can do whatever we want", and then expect the rest of the world to come "save them" when they're careless with their own well being.

Granted, I am not talking about ALL of them, but the majority of those that I have seen come and go through town before and after, seem to all have the same mentality... "Wooo Hooo, we're going to Burning Man"... and they leave a careless wake of destruction both on the way there and back. And apparently, after looking up this topic, I found MASSIVE amounts of others claiming they see this in their towns to and from as well... So this is an issue that does affect my local area.

And because they have this mindset, they're really not mature enough to even consider the real consequences of their careless actions... Woodstock 99 comes to mind here... Yet people stayed long enough, due to a want to lay claim to their victimizations... They could easily have left...

This is not a nature crisis, this is a human crisis, SELF CREATED... Plain and simple.

The more recent island party "FYRE".... Well THAT was a bit different, as they were shuttled to an island... Perhaps we here at Avalon are rare in that we realize our own safety and care is in our own realm of responsibility to self? Sad really that this isn't true for the masses...


https://www.viagogo.com/Festival-Tickets/US-Festivals/Burning-Man-Tickets?AffiliateID=49&adposition=&PCID=PSUSGOOFESBURNI31E3E4B46F&AdID=654925255916&MetroRegionID=&psc=%2c&ps=%2c&ps_p=0&ps_c=19974364036&ps_ag=151061477194&ps_tg=kwd-3744350805&ps_ad=654925255916&ps_adp=%2c&ps_fi=%2c&ps_li=%2c&ps_lp=9032596&ps_n=g&ps_d=c&ps_ex=&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw3dCnBhBCEiwAVvLcu9vPIaW4o7NP6M7VwXA2VBdcmUwOAZbarbhYrjB1tNVYzRVOmTznJRoC7D8QAvD_BwE

The most ridiculous part of it? You can STILL buy burning Man tickets right now.... Two sold on this site, just now, while I was looking them up... For a place that holds 70,000 people.... And tickets being between $500 to $1,400 EACH? They can afford to save these people from a long term sentence there... if they choose to.... So let's see what happens.... That equates to $35,000,000.00 folks...

[Sue (Ayt)]

This video speaks of the potential for this to turn into a "major humanitarian disaster" (as he calls is) mainly due to sanitation, infectious disease, and hypothermia.

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[Inversion]

Now they're saying there's a viral outbreak possibly Ebola with FEMA on site. Later in the video the speaker compares this event to hurricane Hilary, Maui & Paradise. Another person is saying no one can leave or enter the area. They talked about the problem with human waste, water & food.

Resident Evil (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118881-The-Entertainment-Industry&p=1505319&viewfull=1#post1505319) Extinction (2007) desert scenes: clip 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBY9tVPjfo), clip 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P16PwzZr1HY).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TlCFc4S5M

[Satori]

This does not have to be a disaster. All that needs to be done in the short term is to air drop food, water, medicines, clothes, blankets etc. Then send in the corp of army engineers and put up temporary runways. Then bring in C130s and airlift people out. A C130 is the workhorse of the army/air force. It has stoll capability; meaning that it can land and take off on a short runway. It can also carry a heavy load and is designed to transport people as well as cargo.

People need to stop saying why something can’t be done and instead focus on how it can be done and get help to these people and assist them getting out.

Same for Maui.

The blame game can start later.

[Artemesia]

Woodstock was a thousand times more packed and intense. But this seems like, if they chose to, a perfect contained time to do a little experiment .

The" they "that is.


Exactly!

Miranda Kelley, a black projects survivor who spoke at Awake and Aware MANY years ago now, used to talk about (on her blog with her then-partner Duncan O’Finioan) that ‘the thems’ loved to use cruise ships as a testing scenario for various diseases and psyops etc. I am sure some of you remember all the cruise ships that were kept stranded at sea for varying lengths of time before being allowed to come to port. Miranda specifically used the term ‘floating petri dish’ for these scenarios which were unfolding pretty regularly in the 2011-2013 timelines.

Miranda had intimate knowledge of some of the Stanford University projects per her family of origin involvement at that institution, and of course her later use in the MK type projects. I am quite certain her information on this was very accurate.
I cannot link to those discussions because their blog was pulled for safety reasons in 2013, but there may still be some references to that on her Off Planet Radio interviews.

Anyhow, I think that this most recent version of the isolated petri dish opportunity is clearly at play.

At one point I was stationed as a Park Ranger for the NPS on Isle Royale, which notably had ‘the longest running isolated predator-prey study’ in the world as an ongoing field observation research project. Rolf and Candy Peterson headed the wolf-moose study there which was highly respected and monitored by a number of interested groups, not just wildlife conservation folks. The main reason being, I beleive, was thar because it was a fully isolated island in the middle of Lake Superior, they had the isolated research scenario that is a controlled environment dream come true.

If one looks into ‘the Earth experiment’, the seeding of humanity and root race cycles, the quarantine that was placed in our sector of the Milky Way to prevent further impacts of the infectious spread of the usurpers/archons/negative alien agenda/evil/‘the thems’…. Lots of names to choose from for the same set of awarenesses… then interest in a human-run study on a similar scenario in the natural world, would make sense.

I had the priviledge of getting to do some work with Rolf in my time there, mostly because in my regular patrols and personal backcountry toodling around I tended to find specimens or such that were of interest to his project. Isle Royale is a beautiful place and also very odd for reasons I cant exactly articulate. But the perfect petri dish it certainly is, just like a cruise ship, an isolated island (like maui?…. ) for a planned dew attack and far reaching experiment on measured economic collapse… or a small breakaway group of festival goers trapped in an extreme environment, ill prepared and under trained for dealing with such circumstances.

As a fellow ranger colleague of mine who instituted the much-maligned recently initiated mandatory big wall climbing permit system in Yosemite likes to say, “what could possibly go wrong?”

Somebody certainly wants to know.

[Kuperkai]

As far as a possible Ebola or some other infectious disease outbreak at Burning Man, Twitter user @TrueAnonPod claims to be there, and his tweets are rather interesting. I don’t have a Twitter/X account, so I cannot see his latest tweets. However, you can some of his archived posts here:

https://archive.li/https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/*

Some folks might be sick and a quarantine may be in place:
https://archive.ph/Vveos
from 9-3-2023 @4:32 am
FYI basically everybody at Black Rock City is saying that Diplo was 100% present at the source of infection for the alleged Ebola outbreak at Burning Man. And he just broke quarantine.

Looks like Burning Man HQ packed up during the night and left.
https://archive.ph/74sSp#selection-421.0-421.268
Hearing Center Camp (basically burning man HQ) was in completely packed up and shipped off overnight. Nothing left. Some shredded paper and a few loose pens.

Here he goes conspiratorial.
https://archive.ph/Hla6J
Uhhh why did a CDC-connected account tweet this 9 years ago?

Quote from Pavel Skorn @PavelSkorn, Sep 4, 2014
if you went to burning man...you might have ebola

Can someone with a Twitter/X account check out his latest posts for more info and perhaps archive them at archive.ph.
-Thx

[Satori]

Woodstock was a one-time happening. (Altamont, near Livermore CA, was an attempt to recreate Woodstock but fell short.)

Burning Man was supposed to be a happening, albeit an annual happening, but it may have turned into an experiment. It’s a Petri dish of sorts at the moment.

But let’s face it. It rains. And if you are in the dessert living in a dried lake bed, and if it rains enough, the lake bed is going to turn to muck.

I’m not convinced, yet, that the rain was anything more than a natural event.

[Blastolabs]

As far as a possible Ebola or some other infectious disease outbreak at Burning Man, Twitter user @TrueAnonPod claims to be there, and his tweets are rather interesting. I don’t have a Twitter/X account, so I cannot see his latest tweets. However, you can some of his archived posts here:

https://archive.li/https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/*

Some folks might be sick and a quarantine may be in place:
https://archive.ph/Vveos
from 9-3-2023 @4:32 am
FYI basically everybody at Black Rock City is saying that Diplo was 100% present at the source of infection for the alleged Ebola outbreak at Burning Man. And he just broke quarantine.

Looks like Burning Man HQ packed up during the night and left.
https://archive.ph/74sSp#selection-421.0-421.268
Hearing Center Camp (basically burning man HQ) was in completely packed up and shipped off overnight. Nothing left. Some shredded paper and a few loose pens.

Here he goes conspiratorial.
https://archive.ph/Hla6J
Uhhh why did a CDC-connected account tweet this 9 years ago?

Quote from Pavel Skorn @PavelSkorn, Sep 4, 2014
if you went to burning man...you might have ebola

Can someone with a Twitter/X account check out his latest posts for more info and perhaps archive them at archive.ph.
-Thx

There is no ebola outbreak at Burning Man.

This is an old joke that has happened in years past.
People that make art for burning man are pranksters. I've never been but I knew a bunch of people that made stuff all year for Burning Man.

Also take a look at the first couple papers that claim there is a new disease called ebola/ Marburg.

You will note outbreaks only occured after vaccines were given at a clinic.

There is no evidence that there is an infectious virus called ebola, of anyone has read a controlled experiment that provides evidence that "ebola" is caused by a specific virus please share.

[Sue (Ayt)]

The Burning Man website issued this statement Sept. 3 called "2023 Wet Playa Survival Guide"

STATEMENT:


September 3, 2023 6:30 pm

Despite afternoon drizzle, the conditions are improving on the playa. The roads in Black Rock City remain too wet and muddy to officially open them for Exodus on Sunday 9/3.
We will be opening for Exodus on Monday morning 9/4. We will inform the community as soon as we make the decision by 9am.
Please stay off of Gate Road — rain and mud make it impassable at the moment. We have created alternative routes that if used on Monday you will be flagged to the best area to drive across.
The majority of the rain has passed with partially cloudy skies, and a chance of showers and thunderstorms for the rest of the daylight hours. A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms linger into the evening of Sunday 9/3. Gusty winds are still possible today and this evening. Monday 9/4 will bring clear skies, and a welcome chance to dry out.
The Man burn will not happen tonight, Sunday, it is now scheduled for Monday 9/4, at 9pm. The Chapel of Babel is scheduled to burn at midnight, Tuesday 9/5 (i.e. the night of Monday 9/4).
Do not forget the Leave No Trace and Communal Effort principles when you are leaving BRC this year. All participants are expected to pack out everything they brought in and clean their camp space before leaving the city.
WiFi has been made available at Center Camp and the 3 o’clock and 9 o’clock plazas.
Mobile cell trailers have been placed around the city to help boost cellular service for participants.
Charging stations for public use are now placed at the Ranger Outposts and HQ at 3 o’clock, 6 o’clock, and 9 o’clock.
Event operations are functional and responding to evolving conditions. Our communications systems are up and running, as are our power grids.
Sanitation trucks are moving through the city ensuring portable toilets are functional and clean.
Rampart, our Advanced Life Support facility, and our contracted fire fighting provider, will remain on site for two additional days.
Flaggers are stationed at the 8-mile playa entrance to assist with traffic safety and vehicles departing the site.
Shuttle buses are running from the blacktop (CR34) to Gerlach and Reno, to assist those who choose to walk off the playa.
Camps are being asked to watch for leaks and spills, and to clean them up if they occur. Camps are expected to continue diligence in Leaving No Trace.
Please respect law enforcement if you encounter them on playa. They are here to help as we navigate through the next few days. Participants are not being detained. BLM and the Pershing County Sheriff’s Office have not issued instructions to detain people. The Burning Man organization’s advice is for participants to delay their departures to avoid getting stuck in the mud, but people are free to leave should they choose to do so.
If you are traveling through the Reno Airport, please note that they do not have the space or facilities to accommodate travelers needing a place to stay for periods of time while plans are sorted out. Visit their website for more information.
Reno hotels are aware of the rain event on the playa and are looking forward to welcoming and supporting Burning Man participants as they leave the area to go home.
We’re aware that this weather has impacted people’s plans, artwork, camps, and artistic vehicles. Burning Man is an extremely resilient and generous community.
Media inquiries go to press@burningman.org. This email address is being monitored constantly.
We do not expect to have to evacuate the site. However, we are in a high level of readiness due to weather uncertainty and playa conditions, to assist people on site and leaving the site as needed, as conditions evolve.
The online rumors of transmissible illnesses in Black Rock City are unfounded and untrue.

https://burningman.org/event/wetplaya2023/

[Kuperkai]

There is no ebola outbreak at Burning Man.

This is an old joke that has happened in years past.
People that make art for burning man are pranksters. I've never been but I knew a bunch of people that made stuff all year for Burning Man.

Also take a look at the first couple papers that claim there is a new disease called ebola/ Marburg.

You will note outbreaks only occured after vaccines were given at a clinic.

There is no evidence that there is an infectious virus called ebola, of anyone has read a controlled experiment that provides evidence that "ebola" is caused by a specific virus please share.

Agreed, looks like pranksters at play. Somewhat sick thing to joke about, but today, nothing much shocks me anymore as moral decay is widespread.

[Johnnycomelately]

A review of the Burning Man annual event, with personal reminiscinses and professional (wildfire/emergency) opinions.

I find it odd that rain has apparently never been expected: no raised LZs/platforms for helicopters. So, any heli medevac would be one at a time on longlines ffs which would need relatively rare search and rescue choppers.

Someone should write a song about this currently unfolding incident. For a title, first idea is Playa’n in damn mud. Next might be Where have all the flower children gone. Let’s do this. Those title suggestions might not be it. I can help write lyrics. Might need it’s own thread. 👻🤪😎 Truly, no Poe’s Law here, songs are such a powerful means of communication, that they should be used by messengers of truth. Pertains to any of the objectionable circumstances we, worldwide, find ourselves in. David McGowan shed light on the formula aspect of the ‘popular’ music of our times (since the early sixties, courtesy of Deep mainly US Navy). We just need to be smart with the music and lyrics.

Burning Man Situation Report - 9/2/2023

The Lookout
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“Rainstorms in NW Nevada have flooded the giant lakebed of the Black Rock Desert, where 73,000 people are attending the Burning Man Festival. The wet playa is the consistency of greasy peanut butter, and the temporary slum of Black Rock City has ground to a halt. EMS services are paralyzed, tents are wet, and many people are freezing their scantily-clad buns off as nighttime temps drop into the low 50s.

We look at the geography of the Black Rock Desert, check weather forecasts, and show some images of the festival scene in dustier times.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPv8c6z-uJI

Edit: sorry abt the “age restricted” on the vid. Didn’t see THAT coming. ~XO

[Kuperkai]

The Burning Man website issued this statement Sept. 3 called "2023 Wet Playa Survival Guide"

STATEMENT:


September 3, 2023 6:30 pm

Despite afternoon drizzle, the conditions are improving on the playa. The roads in Black Rock City remain too wet and muddy to officially open them for Exodus on Sunday 9/3.
We will be opening for Exodus on Monday morning 9/4. We will inform the community as soon as we make the decision by 9am.
...
The Chapel of Babel is scheduled to burn at midnight, Tuesday 9/5 (i.e. the night of Monday 9/4).
...
The online rumors of transmissible illnesses in Black Rock City are unfounded and untrue.

https://burningman.org/event/wetplaya2023/

Thanks for the update. Everything makes sense except for the part about burning the Chapel of Babel.

I can see the artistic attraction to Burning Man, and I know an artist who has gone there multiple times for this very reason. However, next to the artistic attraction of Burning Man, there is this weird, idol worshiping component that reminds me of the gods of Babylon.

So, is burning the Church of Babel a signal for the return of Baal/Nimrod? Before you scoff at the idea, think back to when ISIS destroyed the Arch of Palmyra and the temple of Bel/Baal in Syria. In response, groups in the west built fake Arches and paid tribute to them. There is even a video of Boris Johnson waxing over his fake version of the Arch of Palmyra. Of course he paid tribute to the Arch of Palmyra and NOT the temple of Bel/Baal, because the sheeple might catch on- kayfabe.

As an aside, there is a strange parallel between the burning man symbol (see here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Burning-Man.svg)) and the Phoenician goddess Tanit (found here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_Tanit)). Tanit's consort was Baal Hammon, who was considered a weather god....coincidence? Additonally, the Phoenicians are widely believed to have practiced child sacrifice by burning them alive. From a spiritual perspective, Burning Man seems like a modern take on paying tribute to fire gods of old and fits in very well with western "elites" paying tribute to the Temple of Baal.

Get me off this rock.

[Inversion]

Past history states the whole Burning Man fiasco is a staged diversion away from Lahaina with the help of weather manipulation. The same thing happened after 9/11 where attention was shifted to the anthrax scare.

Anthrax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks) attack: September 18, 2001 – October 12, 2001

Second event happened 7 days later and lasted for 24 days (https://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=09&d1=18&y1=2001&m2=10&d2=12&y2=2001).

[pyrangello]

I lived in Vegas from 1980 to 1985, that's when the water was the highest at lake mead and yes we had a big storm there that created flash floods everywhere. I was living in a mobile home park and watch a wall of water appear off the mountain 200 feet wide and 18 inches deep being created like nobody's business. It was running so fast it took a van off the road that tried to cross it. And it lasted for hours.

On a separate storm I was driving my car down Washington Blvd which is a main storm runoff in town towards lake mead. It had a big drain ditch in the center and roads going opposite ways on each side. That ditch filled up so fast and crested over the road in minutes and the next thing I knew the water was at the top of the hood of my car, I made the only decision turn turn right into the construction barriers to get off of this and as I was turning right my rear end of my car started floating up but then the rear tires grabbed or an angel pushed that car up on the concrete road. I did a bunch of thank you,s as many people have been lost in there car from the water.

Now the dry lake bed, when it gets wet it's slick as butter. Those people will be fine, it's just the one day it takes to dry out, maybe 2, lots of humidity going up from the ground. This water will be gone as fast as it came and will all go back to doing what we do. I spent a lot of time out in the desert there, explored numerous gold and silver mines and hiked lots of the mountains,it's an ecosystem of its own. One morning after camping by lake mead was taking down the tent and found a 3ft rattlesnake had shed it's skin during the night right along the side of my tent, good thing I zipped it up.

[Richter]

Thousands travel out of Burning Man as desert turns to mud (18:32)
KSL's Chopper 5 shows footage of tens of thousands stranded in the desert of Nevada, trying to get out of the muddy flood.
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[Raskolnikov]

Flyover of the exodus. Apparently, if you can make it to the gate, you can leave - a lot of people didn't make it...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyulGR2dOy4

And yet this video filmed over the weekend seems to contradict all the media reports as many appear to be enjoying themselves and saying the weather brought everyone together?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erbn8BWKcKw

[Inversion]

Damn! That's one hell of a convoy.

1 hour ago
Only playable on YouTube.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttXOxTXTuJc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttXOxTXTuJc)

[pueblo]

So, no Ebola then??

[Raskolnikov]

So, no Ebola then??

Nope


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt8DW9SNCkc

[Johnnycomelately]

So, no Ebola then??

Nope


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt8DW9SNCkc

Beautiful vid of “just consumption, what a waist”, as one commenter called it, from 2017.

B-Man was sched to burn last night, iirc, and the temple (?) burn was to be tonight or tomorrow, but
I haven’t seen anything. “No news, is good news”?

That Galactic Seabass chan seems interesting, gonna check it out, thanks.

Burning Man - The Main Event (NO RAIN)

Galactic Seabass
4.91K subscribers

443 views Sep 5, 2023
Hello! A little backstory, this footage is from 2017 at my first Burn(ing Man). It was an incredible experience (except for that one guy) that I won't soon forget. With all the news coming out about this years Muddy Man I wanted to share this so that everyone who had to leave before the man burned could enjoy it from the comfort of their homes. I was in last years 12 hour Exodus line & it cost me a girlfriend so I can only imagine the ordeal some of those people went through. Even after four burns the idea of trekking across muddy play seems absolutely daunting to say the least. I hope everyone makes it home safely & hope you had some fun ... ”

[Raskolnikov]

So, no Ebola then??

Nope


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt8DW9SNCkc

Beautiful vid of “just consumption, what a waist”, as one commenter called it, from 2017.

B-Man was sched to burn last night, iirc, and the temple (?) burn was to be tonight or tomorrow, but
I haven’t seen anything. “No news, is good news”?

That Galactic Seabass chan seems interesting, gonna check it out, thanks.

Burning Man - The Main Event (NO RAIN)

Galactic Seabass
4.91K subscribers

443 views Sep 5, 2023
Hello! A little backstory, this footage is from 2017 at my first Burn(ing Man). It was an incredible experience (except for that one guy) that I won't soon forget. With all the news coming out about this years Muddy Man I wanted to share this so that everyone who had to leave before the man burned could enjoy it from the comfort of their homes. I was in last years 12 hour Exodus line & it cost me a girlfriend so I can only imagine the ordeal some of those people went through. Even after four burns the idea of trekking across muddy play seems absolutely daunting to say the least. I hope everyone makes it home safely & hope you had some fun ... ”

Thanks Johnny. Yeah, guess it's a little unrealistic that they pulled that off after the flood. Knew a lot of people that went to Burning Man every year living in the Bay Area for 20 years from the 90s to the twenty-teens, they swore by it and said it was the best thing ever, had great stories. The barter thing sounded like a good concept, heading in the right direction, do what you love and then trade that with others who do likewise, the way it's supposed to work down here right? People would spend all year getting ready for that place, truly dedicated.
Sounded fun but never made it. No regrets.

[Johnnycomelately]

Thanks Johnny. Yeah, guess it's a little unrealistic that they pulled that off after the flood. Knew a lot of people that went to Burning Man every year living in the Bay Area for 20 years from the 90s to the twenty-teens, they swore by it and said it was the best thing ever, had great stories. The barter thing sounded like a good concept, heading in the right direction, do what you love and then trade that with others who do likewise, the way it's supposed to work down here right? People would spend all year getting ready for that place, truly dedicated.
Sounded fun but never made it. No regrets.

It sure does sound hecka fun. I don’t know much about it, like what you mentioned about trading and barter, but with such an immense scale of like-minded folk, I imagine the synergy is off the charts.

Back when I was more “out” as a follower of Christ, I attended my friends’ Wicca festival (they called me their toke’n Christian lol). Same kind of vibe, interactions and sales of home/selfmade stuff. And the fire was the main event.

Summer Solstice is another occasion famously celebrated around Big Fire.

[norman]

Burning Man [ insert Maui or Paradise or western Canada or Australia ]

Cmon folks, don't you get it.

The only love and light about that lot is the Lucifer the illuminator kind. Mind gods and Babylonian debauchery, all packaged up like it's cool and above the plebbery.


wiki:
The festival gets its name from its culminating event, the burning of a large wooden structure called “the Man” on the penultimate night.

Toxic Masculinity ?

The new Neanderthal wipeout ?

WTF is going on?

( and think of the energy that puts out into the world )

[Raskolnikov]

Burning Man [ insert Maui or Paradise or western Canada or Australia ]

Cmon folks, don't you get it.

The only love and light about that lot is the Lucifer the illuminator kind. Mind gods and Babylonian debauchery, all packaged up like it's cool and above the plebbery.


wiki:
The festival gets its name from its culminating event, the burning of a large wooden structure called “the Man” on the penultimate night.

Toxic Masculinity ?

The new Neanderthal wipeout ?

WTF is going on?

( and think of the energy that puts out into the world )

Well come on, ya gotta have a little fun. Don’t think it started that way but like all other good things in this world it got hijacked, inverted, perverted. Going through the fire is also transformation and spiritually cleansing, the kind of fire of which Jesus spoke. Some of the best times of my life were at concerts, people just want to be around people and enjoy the arts, even if it is a spirit cooking, sure beats ze bugs!

[Matthew]

Wicker Man is a classic in folk-law. Get past the Folk-Horror film of the same name and there's a druid sacrificial ritual mentioned by Caesar, although sacrifice, especially human, is difficult to believe today so people don't want to.

The Folk Horror movies, like the Wicker Man, have a common theme of paganism, although country arable living is a strong theme of the genre. Ultimately though, the genre is defined by social paganism. So for example this would also include Rosemary's Baby and Eyes Wide Shut.

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People don't like to believe the history of the burning wicker man.

[palehorse]

what a better opportunity for the folks there to put into test their survival skills? Who actually goes to such event and are really prepared to things like that? I guess almost nobody, It can happen to anyone anywhere, to be stranded in the middle of a "situation" that unfold so quickly, be in a group or alone isn't easy to deal with the unexpected?

I would check the weather forecast like a week before the event and a week after, I guess that is basic to anyone going to a trip in the desert, I know nobody expect rain in the desert, but if there was no rain forecast, then where it came from, fabricated rain? cloud seeding? weather modification?

When I go to surf, I do get a detailed forecast for 15 days, it isn't perfect or very accurate but it gives a good idea where the swell is coming from, direction of wind, rains, wavelength (distance in time between crest - you just need access to a buoy data), sun (radiation exposure), etc.. seems a lot but it is not, for everything we do be whatever it is we have to be prepared for the odds.

Weird folks, very weird.

[gini]

Stumbled upon this,i was surprised to hear that the center of the fest is called the black rock.VBtuIa_CfnQ[/YOUTUBE]

[Sue (Ayt)]

Many of the concepts sound lovely, but a whole lot of inversion appears to have been inserted into the festival over the years. (along with big $$).

Sadly, that often appears to be a modus operandi they use for corrupting things beautiful, natural, and the beauty of spontaneous human creativity.

Example:
Google "Burning Man Orgy Dome"

[The Moss Trooper]

what a better opportunity for the folks there to put into test their survival skills? Who actually goes to such event and are really prepared to things like that? I guess almost nobody, It can happen to anyone anywhere, to be stranded in the middle of a "situation" that unfold so quickly, be in a group or alone isn't easy to deal with the unexpected?

I would check the weather forecast like a week before the event and a week after, I guess that is basic to anyone going to a trip in the desert, I know nobody expect rain in the desert, but if there was no rain forecast, then where it came from, fabricated rain? cloud seeding? weather modification?

When I go to surf, I do get a detailed forecast for 15 days, it isn't perfect or very accurate but it gives a good idea where the swell is coming from, direction of wind, rains, wavelength (distance in time between crest - you just need access to a buoy data), sun (radiation exposure), etc.. seems a lot but it is not, for everything we do be whatever it is we have to be prepared for the odds.

Weird folks, very weird.

Amen to that.........

Likewise when I'm about to set off on a long distance hike, or a day-or-two in the mountains....... First thing I do is pull-up a long-range weather forecast, and adjust my plans accordingly. One of the (many) benefits of have a small satellite communicator is, that you can pull-down very detailed forecasst for the area that you are. These forecasts are the most detailed I've ever seen, they literally give you an hour-by-hour breakdown of precipitation, wind, sun, pressure, storms, etc, etc.

It is a constant source of amazement (to me) of the situations people will put themselves in without any thought of checking or planning beforehand.

[norman]

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/my-daughters-a-huge-fan-suerynn-lee.jpg

[Denise/Dizi]

Well, they're heading through town, and they faired pretty well... (The ones who have come through thus far)...

Many claiming that while muddy, it was still a "great time... " And one, stopping into the shop for over an hour, said that aside from worrying about getting mud in the RV's when "visiting neighbors", it really didn't bother them at all...

Many have rinsed off their vehicles a little bit by the time they got here... And aside from the mud caked in the wheel wells that has yet to fully fall off? Their cars faired well also...

According to all I have encountered thus far, Burning Man 2023 was "a success..... "

[palehorse]

media is broadcasting that 1 man died from intoxication, others broadcasting he died from cold and wet weather. Pick your favorite lie lol

"Leon Reece
Sept. 5, 2:10 p.m. A man attending this year's annual Burning Man festival died Friday, as a cold and wet weather system bore down on Nevada's Black Rock Desert. The Pershing County Sheriff's Office named the man as 32-year-old Leon Reece in a press release on Monday."
ref.: https://sfstandard.com/2023/09/05/burning-man-2023-death-suspected-cause-identity-released/


I don't follow these things at all, it is all rigged & compromised, see it start as grassroots, develop with time, and then it gets compromised / infiltrated. I am very tired of this stupid pattern in life. We have to keep it simple, anything that grows too much, soon or later spin out of control, I mean even a stupid event can cause lifetime changes to one person, as you can see people die every year in such events (total of 27 since the first burning man, but majority of death are not from the start of this event but in the recent years, like is 2017 there was 6 deaths).

knowing about burning man event from many years, I also have a friend who went there in 1991 and he told me it "was" a very cool place, nice people, nice barb meat with beers, magic shrooms tea, nice ideas and talks (people usually gives inspirational talks at the event and not trying to sell any **** like today), open minded folks from all around.. but that was back then, not right now.

When you get a handful of tech moguls, influencers, celebrities, tycoons that decide to put their dirty finger on things like this, what you get is just another BS annual event, because these people want always manipulate others, they love attention too, they are narcissistic, they think they can do that because they are wealth and money can buy anything, that is all they are a bunch of freaks, weirdos and "maricas".

Sorry for the rant.

[Johnnycomelately]

What do you think the man died from? Couldn’t it have been from BOTH alcohol and hypothermia?

Hey what are the stats on only one death in a week+, for that many people anywhere?

As far as the various elite$ basturizing the thing, I don’t see that detracting from what any of the poorer freaks do. 70+ thousand people showed up.



media is broadcasting that 1 man died from intoxication, others broadcasting he died from cold and wet weather. Pick your favorite lie lol

"Leon Reece
Sept. 5, 2:10 p.m. A man attending this year's annual Burning Man festival died Friday, as a cold and wet weather system bore down on Nevada's Black Rock Desert. The Pershing County Sheriff's Office named the man as 32-year-old Leon Reece in a press release on Monday."
ref.: https://sfstandard.com/2023/09/05/burning-man-2023-death-suspected-cause-identity-released/


I don't follow these things at all, it is all rigged & compromised, see it start as grassroots, develop with time, and then it gets compromised / infiltrated. I am very tired of this stupid pattern in life. We have to keep it simple, anything that grows too much, soon or later spin out of control, I mean even a stupid event can cause lifetime changes to one person, as you can see people die every year in such events (total of 27 since the first burning man, but majority of death are not from the start of this event but in the recent years, like is 2017 there was 6 deaths).

knowing about burning man event from many years, I also have a friend who went there in 1991 and he told me it "was" a very cool place, nice people, nice barb meat with beers, magic shrooms tea, nice ideas and talks (people usually gives inspirational talks at the event and not trying to sell any **** like today), open minded folks from all around.. but that was back then, not right now.

When you get a handful of tech moguls, influencers, celebrities, tycoons that decide to put their dirty finger on things like this, what you get is just another BS annual event, because these people want always manipulate others, they love attention too, they are narcissistic, they think they can do that because they are wealth and money can buy anything, that is all they are a bunch of freaks, weirdos and "maricas".

Sorry for the rant.

[gini]

SjLEQqGBvvw

15 min-
Burning Man flooded after ritual Ukraine war sacrifice

Sep 8, 2023 #TheGrayzone
The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal and Wyatt Reed roast the annual Burning Man gathering in the ironically named Black Rock, Nevada, covering its hosting of a bizarre Ukrainian government sponsored sacrifice to Kiev's proxy war, the floods and mud that ensued afterwards, and the special privileges given to celebrity attendees during a shelter in place order.

[Kuperkai]

Stumbled upon this,i was surprised to hear that the center of the fest is called the black rock.VBtuIa_CfnQ[/YOUTUBE]

Black Rock (Iinvestment Company), Black Cube (Intelligence), Black Rock Desert (Burning Man). A steel statue of a Phoenix rising out of the ashes. The servants of Saturn, Satan (aka ancestors of the Phoencians and Mystery Babylon) are furiously constructing and programming the masses for their Luciferian World Order.

Ahhh, I'll take a hard pass.

[palehorse]

What do you think the man died from? Couldn’t it have been from BOTH alcohol and hypothermia?

Hey what are the stats on only one death in a week+, for that many people anywhere?

As far as the various elite$ basturizing the thing, I don’t see that detracting from what any of the poorer freaks do. 70+ thousand people showed up.

...




I was not making fun of someone's death, the hilarious thing is how the media opinionated on it. They sure are trying to blame it on the weather now.

what I pointed out was the people are dying more often in the recent years on Burning Man, be it a suicide, accident, murder or just crazy, when the fest started in 86 it was kinda of private fest until 90s something and then opened to the public.. my friend went there by invitation in 91 if I recall well, and it was an organized event. Years after that is when the fest became public and open to all, deaths started after this period, they add an increasingly price tag through the years to try to control the influx of people, it started as donation and now it cost $225 (pax) and $150 (vehicle pass).. a ticket at the gate can cost as much as $3k in case all tickets sold out.