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scotslad
5th September 2023, 11:07
Does anyone have more facts or details of this, apparently Trump organised this - is it true...? Is this real, a misquote but what is the real powerplay here and was it actioned by Trump...?

UK news clip...

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The truth, implications, and rationale?

ah wee update.. Managed to find the new programme and interesting info on Trump...

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Curious to your take on it all as I know Trump has a lot on at the moment, but this (to me) was intriguing and there appears to be more under the surface.

Or should I stop drinking coffee, and get back to work?

Thanks

SL

Bill Ryan
5th September 2023, 12:10
This was mentioned (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120854-Derek-Johnson-says-Trump-could-still-be-the-legal-US-President&p=1574812&viewfull=1#post1574812) a few days ago on the Derek Johnson thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120854-Derek-Johnson-says-Trump-could-still-be-the-legal-US-President), the post copied below. Here are my own comments, for what they're worth:

650 military cargo plane trips would surely have been picked up on Flightrader24, which many people are following now. That's a LOT. And if (presumably) a small number of planes were deployed for this purpose, the entire project would have taken a full year or more.

A C-130 can carry 42,000 lbs of cargo. For something like gold, which is very dense, the weight is the limiting factor, not the volume. So adding all this up, 650 x 42,000 = 27,300,000 lbs.

That's 436,800,000 ounces. If we take the price of gold at $1,950/oz, that's $71,760,000,000. Count the zeros. That's $71.7 trillion.

My suspicion? This didn't happen. :)


Aug 28 2023 - Dr. Jan Halper w/ The Big Mig > The MILITARY Is In Charge + Trump Is CIC

Points:
* Pay Attention To Everything That Is Happening > Connect The Dots
* General Flynn Is Giving Us Wisdom > Everyone Should Listen
* The Contract Between The Crown + The Vatican + The U.S. Corporation Has Been Dissolved
* Biden Has Continued To Extend Trump's Key Executive Orders
* A U.S. Security Contractor Witnessed The Vatican Gold Being Trucked To U.S. MIL C-130's
* When The Election Fraud Is Revealed All Of Biden's Appointments And Laws Could Be Revoked
* Trump Put The MIL In Charge And He Is the Commander In Chief

v3am0ci

Satori
5th September 2023, 13:19
This was mentioned (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120854-Derek-Johnson-says-Trump-could-still-be-the-legal-US-President&p=1574812&viewfull=1#post1574812) a few days ago on the Derek Johnson thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120854-Derek-Johnson-says-Trump-could-still-be-the-legal-US-President), the post copied below. Here are my own comments, for what they're worth:

650 military cargo plane trips would surely have been picked up on Flightrader24, which many people are following now. That's a LOT. And if (presumably) a small number of planes were deployed for this purpose, the entire project would have taken a full year or more.

A C-130 can carry 42,000 lbs of cargo. For something like gold, which is very dense, the weight is the limiting factor, not the volume. So adding all this up, 650 x 42,000 = 27,300,000 lbs.

That's 436,800,000 ounces. If we take the price of gold at $1,950/oz, that's $71,760,000,000. Count the zeros. That's $71.7 trillion.

My suspicion? This didn't happen. :)


Aug 28 2023 - Dr. Jan Halper w/ The Big Mig > The MILITARY Is In Charge + Trump Is CIC

Points:
* Pay Attention To Everything That Is Happening > Connect The Dots
* General Flynn Is Giving Us Wisdom > Everyone Should Listen
* The Contract Between The Crown + The Vatican + The U.S. Corporation Has Been Dissolved
* Biden Has Continued To Extend Trump's Key Executive Orders
* A U.S. Security Contractor Witnessed The Vatican Gold Being Trucked To U.S. MIL C-130's
* When The Election Fraud Is Revealed All Of Biden's Appointments And Laws Could Be Revoked
* Trump Put The MIL In Charge And He Is the Commander In Chief

v3am0ci

Bill, don’t we need three more zeros to get to a trillion?


From Bill:
Yes, you're 100% right, too early in the morning here. :coffee: It's 'only' $71 billion.
But my suspicion firmly remains that this is all nonsense. :)

Johan (Keyholder)
5th September 2023, 13:38
436,800,000 ounces and 1.950 US$ per oz (value) makes 851.760.000.000 US$ (or 851.760 million US$).

1 trillion = 1,000,000,000,000, i.e. one million million, or ten to the twelfth power, as defined on the short scale.
This is now the meaning in both American and British English.

The value of 650 C-130's planes of gold is just under one trillion US$.

Or about 852 billion US$ (the suspicion is still the same of course)

As a "side note": The Treasury Department reached its debt ceiling of $31.4 trillion in January 2023...

That makes 23.955 C-130 planes filled with gold!
Not enough such planes in the world to carry that.
And that's just the US debt.

Interesting info stats) here: https://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock

Denise/Dizi
5th September 2023, 14:59
I don't know if this thread will go anywhere, but I find it curious at the very least...

wondering
5th September 2023, 15:21
No idea of the actual amounts, but I have no doubts of the enormous quantity of gold held by the Vatican...signed, previously brainwashed catholic student of way too many years!!! 😂

ExomatrixTV
5th September 2023, 17:45
(Not sure if it has any value) ... Dr. Jan Halper Hayes, member of DoD task force, advisor to President Donald Trump, on Good Morning Great Britian-states Pres. Donald Trump dissolved USA inc., will Return Restore the Republic, Reclaimed 600 plane loads of gold from the Vatican?
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Artemesia
5th September 2023, 19:37
I was interested to peruse this thread because of the reference to the proclamation of 1871, but I see little about that here.

From my research on this key date, in the wake of the US Civil War, deeply in debt, this was the year the US constitution was fully undermined by selling out to the global banks. At this point the United States began to operate with two parallell systems of control
A) the one that had been originally defined by the constitution and according to some scholars was written to be in accordance with the organic Law of One principles (I have doubts about this myself having lived and worked on the planetary grid in the Washington DC area at one point in my life) and
B) the hijacked coroporatocracy hand-over that began at this point that relegated control fully to the Satanic control architecture operating out of London.

References to this here:

Washington DC was established as a city-state in 1871 with the passage of the Act of 1871, which officially established the United States as a corporation under the rule of Washington, which itself is subservient to the City of London. Corporations are run by presidents, which is why we call the person perceived to hold the highest seat of power in the land “the president.” The fact is the president is nothing more than a figurehead for the central bankers and transnational corporations (both of which themselves are controlled by High Ecclesiastic Freemasonry) that really control this country and ultimately call the shots. [3]

Full link attributes to Lisa Renee’s research as presented in the ascension glossary. Direct link here:

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Elite_Pedophilia_Networks

Anyhow if anyone has other data or links to share specifically related to the events of 1871 please do share!

Interestingly enough, Lewis Carroll’s book ‘Alice Through the Looking Glass’ was also published in 1871.

Small reference to that here:

Military Grey Alien Technology and other Alien Machinery used by the NAA is designed to create Clones of planetary inhabitants, human beings, through the process of Soul Capture Technology and manipulating synthetic Timelines.[3]

The upper echelon of the military may refer to this time travel technology as Looking Glass technology as homage to "Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There" (1871) which is a novel by Lewis Carroll (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson).

Direct link here, under the information on clones and negative form:

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Negative_Form

I realize that last bit may not seem relevant to this thread, however if you want to know how lots of material substance can be moved through time-space fields easily without the use of C-130s, I am guessing Looking Glass Tech and the timeline loop manipulation would be a pretty solid place to look…. Just a guess.

Artemesia
5th September 2023, 19:48
Also wanted to add, regarding stuff stored at the Vatican, I would personally think it more useful to have all the ancient manuscripts that were taken there from the

Library of Alexandria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria

PRIOR to the flase flag ‘fire’ that occurred there, which is rumored to largely have only burned tax documents as the real treasure of wisdom teachings and scrolls had already been moved to the Vatican. Again, how? Check the looking glass tech.
And the ‘fire’ cover up…. Hmmm sounds kind of familiar on our current timeline doesnt it? DEW anyone? Raskolnikov recently posted some great info on ancient tech from Archimedes over on the Lahaina thread for referenc on that.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121653-Hawaii-Maui-Lahaina-has-been-wiped-off-the-map&p=1575469&viewfull=1#post1575469

Also along with the ancient wisdom, all the trapped souls of SRA’d children would be useful to be released for safe passage.

As for gold…. Well ya, its shiny and cool. I would put forth that the souls of innocent children and the ancient wisdom teachings that are held at the Vatican are FAR FAR more valuable to humanity at this time.

shaberon
6th September 2023, 03:41
Washington DC was established as a city-state in 1871 with the passage of the Act of 1871, which officially established the United States as a corporation under the rule of Washington, which itself is subservient to the City of London.

That is not quite how it works.

It established a corporation for the District of Columbia. That's it. That does not make the federal government any different one way or another. It is not a corporation. It is a sovereign. Most municipal governments such as DC are corporations.

What did happen with the Act is that corporations--some years later--were able to get the term "person" equated to "corporation".

That was a ruling by a Federal Judge somewhere and we have been stuck with it ever since. Obviously that gives any kind of corporation a new legal life which they did not have before, in fact, they were very heavily regulated.

In strategical terms, during this time, yes, Wall Street became informally associated to the City of London mainly within the Pilgrims' Society. That is how we got a think tank such as Council on Foreign Relations which more or less dictates policy to the State Department (Hillary Clinton said "tell us how to think").


One could say Germany was unified in 1871, and that Britain immediately responded with a dual purpose of damaging Germany itself, and preventing them from any serious dealings with Russia. This idea was passed off to the United States, who is still doing it.







Normally, whenever gold bars are moved, they are guarded by people with machine guns. Any unusual activity should be very obvious what they are doing. You'd have to haul it through Rome to get anywhere near one of those planes.