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mojo
30th September 2023, 01:12
Something seems very odd about this. Guess I dont trust what the MSM and governments tell us anymore.

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Johnnycomelately
30th September 2023, 01:49
Yes, have heard of them. Ben Davidson, of YouTube (and his dot-org site) Suspicious 0bservers, has spoken of the phenomenon, and iirc has referenced papers about them.

Haven’t watched the OP vids yet, but IMO good subject.

Ben talks about electrical currents in the earth, forced by Solar inputs (“space weather”), as making faults (crustal unit boundaries) more slippery and so more prone to move. Also, he talks about piezoelectric effects from stresses on the various minerals in fault zones.

syrwong
30th September 2023, 04:42
No. I have not heard of it until in recent years. This is a psychological process called normalization. When an earthquake is triggered and light emission is unavoidable, they give it a name and nodded by the experts. Yeh! That is earthquake light. After a few times it becomes a natural phenomenon associated with earthquakes.

The devastating earthquake of WenChuen China just before the 2008Beijing Olympic games did not have this light, but half a hour before it struck, there was beautiful colored clouds in the sky. Aurora?

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ExomatrixTV
30th September 2023, 21:11
Long time ago I saw many different "Hessdalen UFO Encounters in Norway (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Hessdalen%20UFO)" Documentaries ... "An Open UFO Laboratory" with so many different scientific equipment used ... Did you know that even the famous Dr. Allen Hynek (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Allen%20Hynek)went over there? ... One of the theories that was mentioned back then was: "earthquake lights" then saw that term used in other UFO Documentaries (I studied over 500 last 33 years) as well.


46:11 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1WWRJinIU4&t=2771s) in to the video they discuss: 100% Scientific UFO Research in Hesdalen Norway

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John 🦜🦋🌳

syrwong
1st October 2023, 02:57
I asked three different AI for descriptions of major earthquakes happened before 1950,focusing on the atmospheric conditions at the onset. None mentioned earthquake lights. Here is the reply from Claude2:

Claude2: Unfortunately, detailed descriptions of the weather and sky conditions at the exact time of historic earthquakes are not readily available. However, here is some general information about two major earthquakes before 1950:

The 1887 Sonora earthquake: This 7.5 magnitude quake struck near Bavispe, Mexico on May 3, 1887. It caused significant damage in Arizona and New Mexico as well as northwestern Mexico. There are no specific accounts of the weather or sky conditions at the precise time, but newspaper reports from the period indicate generally fair weather and clear skies around that time of year in the region.

The 1906 San Francisco earthquake: This massive 7.9 magnitude earthquake hit the San Francisco Bay Area on April 18, 1906. Firsthand accounts describe the weather that day as clear, sunny and warm, though the sky was hazy from earlier fires caused by the quake. Some reported light winds, but no mention of thunder or storms when the first tremors struck shortly after 5am local time. The lack of rain likely contributed to the fires that burned for days in San Francisco following the quake.

So in summary, while precise details are lacking, these major quakes seemed to occur under generally fair weather and clear sky conditions typical of the region and season when they struck. Unfortunately I do not have eyewitness accounts describing the exact sky and weather at the moment the first seismic waves arrived.

Reply from GPT4:
Sure, here are the descriptions of two major earthquakes that happened before 1950:

## 1. Great Kanto Earthquake, 1923

**Date:** September 1, 1923

**Location:** Kanto region, Japan

The Great Kanto earthquake of 1923 struck in the late morning, at 11:58 am JST. The weather that day was typical for the late summer season in Japan—warm and humid with a clear, azure sky. The sun was shining brightly, providing no indication of the disaster to come.

As the first seismic wave hit, it was as if the earth itself had started breathing erratically, the ground undulating beneath the feet of people and buildings. The quake was so powerful that it was said to have generated thunder-like sounds, a terrifying roar that echoed through the valleys and across the hills. For those close enough, the rumbling of the earth beneath their feet was accompanied by a deafening roar, a sound that would later be likened to a monstrous beast awakening from the depths of the earth.

The weather played a cruel role in the events that unfolded. The earthquake struck at lunchtime, which meant that many traditional, coal-burning stoves used for cooking were lit. The tremors knocked these stoves over, spreading fire throughout the wooden structures that were common in Japan at the time. The clear, dry conditions allowed the fires to spread rapidly, leading to a firestorm that caused as much, if not more, damage and loss of life as the earthquake itself.

## 2. 1935 Quetta Earthquake, British India (now Pakistan)

**Date:** May 31, 1935

**Location:** Quetta, British India (now Pakistan)

The 1935 Quetta earthquake occurred in the early hours of the morning, at around 3:00 am IST. The night was dark and quiet, with a canvas of twinkling stars spread across the sky. The temperature was mild with a slight breeze, typical for a late spring night in the region.

The quake struck without warning, its initial tremors sounding like a low rumble before intensifying into a thunderous roar that echoed throughout the valley. The roar of the earthquake was so loud and frightening that it was said to have drowned out the sounds of collapsing buildings.

The night's tranquility was shattered by the seismic waves. The stars that moments ago had seemed so serene and peaceful now bore silent witness to a scene of utter chaos and destruction. The ground swayed violently, and the once silent night was filled with the cacophony of crashing buildings and the terrified cries of people.

Following the quake, a dust storm was triggered due to the massive amount of debris kicked up into the air by the destruction, which further hampered rescue and relief efforts. The normally clear, starlit sky was obscured by the dust, creating an eerie, sepia-toned world that added to the surreal horror of the earthquake's aftermath.


Note the calm conditions with clear sky. I am sure if flashes of light appeared just when it struck, they would have been reported.

palehorse
1st October 2023, 03:54
OP's Second video seems very much like something was dropped on the ground from the sky and caused what looks like an explosion of light. I tried to watch frame-by-frame to see if that wasn't a drop of water falling in front of the camera lens, since it is slightly raining in this video, it does not seems to be water but I am not sure what to say about it.

As @syrwong wrote, it is "called normalization" every time they try to come up with some made up stuff and later call it a natural event. We know the old patterns.

Johnnycomelately
8th October 2023, 06:11
Found a paper that may be relevant to these lights in the sky before earthquakes, titled Precursor that Predicts the Earthquakes, Triggers, and Indicators . They talk about several parameters, but to me the most interesting one is the EM radiation, and how it characteristically changes in advance of the event — over days or weeks or months.

They see the frequency dropping, as the active fault length increases, in what they call the “preparation” phase, those days to months when the thing is getting ready release.

Something that I didn’t see, in what I read closely, was mention of intensity of the radio signals. In my humble/nobody opinion, the lights are caused by electric fields fluorescing some gas molecules in the air there, same as how fluorescent lights work. There was a section of the paper (iirc, skipped through it) that looked at atmospheric moisture collelations to to measurements. Just a pure guess here, but maybe faults that are progressively micro-crushing some minerals, might be releasing unusual gasses upward, which fluoresce in these instances.

Am pasting the link, because PDF embeds can be IME finicky. Embed at bottom, for folks who prefer that.

https://browse.arxiv.org/pdf/2310.03326.pdf

“Abstract
The consolidated paper presents work carried out in the sphere of earthquake problems. On the base of theoretical and experimental studies, it is shown earthquake prediction possibility. There are discussed earthquake indicators and triggering exogenous factors for the Caucasus region. Besides, because the earthquake preparation process causes anomalous changes with complex characteristics in various geophysical fields, it is given scientifically proven suggestions for the classification of earthquake precursor, indicator and triggering factors. It is offered short-term plan for future work in the earthquake prediction direction.
Introduction
Modern ground-based and satellite methods of observation, in the seismogenic area, during the earthquake preparation period, reveal the anomalous changes in various geophysical fields, which may accompany the earthquake preparation process, and expose themselves several months, weeks, or days prior to earthquakes. Very interesting studies have been accumulated [2,8,13,16,27] which prove the certain kind of connections between anomalous changes in these fields and earthquakes, but it turned out that in order to guide further studies in the right direction, it is necessary to classify these fields into triggers, indicators, and precursors. This classification will simplify the vague picture created by the set of anomalous geophysical fields existent during the periods of earthquake preparation, and makes it difficult to detect the true precursor necessary for high-precision earthquake prediction.
Discussion
I. Earthquake precursor
The detection of Electromagnetic radiation in the range of MHz, kHz, and ULF, existing during the formation of strong earthquakes, at the moment of an earthquake’s occurrence and often after that, turned out to be so important and noteworthy that radio networks were created in Japan (Japan-Pacific Network VLF / LF) and Europe (INFREP,European Network of Electromagnetic Radiation)[2,3,14, 15, 16,17,26, 86, 93].”

https://browse.arxiv.org/pdf/2310.03326.pdf