Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[Bill Ryan]

Here is a little sidetrack into 1967 history, because of the latest news of a USA war ship in the Mediterranean in support of Israel. This should make all of us wonder...

Who remembers the fate of the USS Liberty ship that was bombed by unmarked Israeli jets in 1967, although it was clearly marked as a USA ship, which killed and injured dozens of USA servicemen at the hand of their 'ally' Israel. At the time the Israelis denied doing this or tried to pass it off as a 'mistake', but it eventually transpired in Israel's own media that these Israeli fighter pilots had been ordered to attack the USA ship and knew exactly who they were attacking. Turned out that one Israeli fighter pilot refused to carry out those orders.

The Israelis tried to pass this attack as coming from Egypt, which would have then unleashed the USA military might against Egypt, at the time Isreal's strongest enemy, and possibly drawn the Soviets into the battle. But thankfully all this was averted because the truth came out that the attackers were Israelis.

USA servicemen who know history on the current USA ship near Isreal could be concerned about an impending attack, this time from 'Iran'. Isreal has been trying for decades to get the USA to launch a war against Iran, and they've got so many USA politicians doing their bidding. Do they care that this new false flag would look too much like an exact repeat of the 1968 USS Liberty fiasco? Probably not. After all, USA choose to ignore Israel's perfidy and completely exonarated their dear 'ally', and they mostly abandoned the servicemen victims of this attack. Israel's control over USA politicians is stunning.

Back to topic.Yes. There's a short forum thread about this here, but it was a very major event. :flower:


Covering up the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46160-Covering-up-the-Israeli-attack-on-the-USS-Liberty)

:focus:

[Bill Ryan]

Two brief reports among literally thousands that are swamping social media. I chose these to post simply because they were apparent statements of fact, with no emotional rhetoric attached. :flower:

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82650
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82668

The text:

1) The Israeli newspaper Haaretz writes that the IDF attacked the house of the commander of the Hamas military wing of the Al-Qassam Brigades, Mohammed Ad-Deif, as a result of which his father, brother, children and other relatives were killed.

2) Another morning in Gaza looks like this.

ZandVchannel/82650

ZandVchannel/82668

[SilentFeathers]

Two brief reports among literally thousands that are swamping social media. I chose these to post simply because they were apparent statements of fact, with no emotional rhetoric attached. :flower:

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82650
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82668

The text:

1) The Israeli newspaper Haaretz writes that the IDF attacked the house of the commander of the Hamas military wing of the Al-Qassam Brigades, Mohammed Ad-Deif, as a result of which his father, brother, children and other relatives were killed.

2) Another morning in Gaza looks like this.

ZandVchannel/82650

ZandVchannel/82668

Things are getting uglier by the hour, the blood sacrifice is escalating! (pretty sickening no matter how one looks at it).

[Dennis Leahy]

Information about the “beheading of 40 babies” by Hamas militants is not confirmed

“Journalist” Nicole Zedek writes that she received information about the “beheading” from IDF soldiers and did not see the corpses of the children herself.

Anodulu also reports that the IDF has no information to support the accusations against Hamas.

Ostashko! Important - subscribe

https://x.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1711835009462485416

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With narrative control, it doesn't matter if it happened or not - just by saying it and publishing it, and repeating it, then the words are breathed into life and become part of the zeitgeist. Mission accomplished, Nicole Zedek.

[gini]

ISRAEL vs PALESTINE: Did WW3 Just Begin? Everything You Need to Know

Oct 11, 2023
Patrick Bet-David explains the Israel vs Palestine conflict, whether or not it could lead to WW3, and everything else you need to know about Hamas' attack.--q2209nFlQLo

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1712125073589428608

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
The escalation of Israel's war with Palestine will undoubtedly consolidate the Islamic world. Conservatives in the West are again talking about defending the 'Judeo-Christian civilization in the face of Muslims', and the radical ideology of Hamas provides them with a convenient excuse for this.

However, a society of deep atheism, materialism and legalization of all kinds of perversions, which has long since abandoned traditional theology and values (and orientations), cannot be considered either Christian or Jewish. If the West, as it is now, supports Israel, it is seriously guilty of something. After all, if the devil's civilization is on your side, then you have done something wrong. There is no such thing as a Judeo-Christian world, it just doesn't make sense. The Islamic world, on the contrary, exists and in it, the traditions are still strong. It turns out that it is not the Judeo-Christians against the Muslims, but the Muslims against the satanic culture, against Dajjal. Biden's idea of combining the theme of support for Ukraine with support for Israel, only underlines this: the West is always on the side of those who submit to its hegemony and serve it.

Muslims were not enemies of Ukraine and allies of Russia (with the exception of eschatologically awakened Iran and Syria), but now they will be. Russia is the pole of a multipolar world. Islam is the pole of a multipolar world. Both poles oppose the West's desperate attempts to save unipolarism and its global dominance at any cost, even at the cost of a world war.

The Palestinian conflict with Israel was not the frontline of a conflict of civilizations. Now it is. Just as the tensions between Russia and Ukraine were regional in character until the Nazis in Kiev were supported by the West, the war in Ukraine has become the frontline of a global confrontation between multipolarity and unipolarity.

The scope of this confrontation is growing. The situation is becoming more and more sinister. Already, billions of people on the planet are convinced that the collective West and its allies are absolute evil and the civilization of the Antichrist. Democrats, globalists and neoconservatives are leading humanity straight into the abyss. Which, strictly speaking, is what demons are supposed to do.

— Alexander Dugin
https://t.me/Dugin_Aleksandr

https://x.com/Agdchan/status/1711820872619528591

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[Sirus]

Regarding the baby murders:

https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1711718195025821976
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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
🇷🇺🇵🇸🇮🇱 PUTIN’S FULL STATEMENT:

"The expansion of the conflict in the Middle East may lead to serious consequences, including the energy sector"

"The Palestinian problem is in the heart of every Muslim, and is perceived by them as a manifestation of injustice, elevated to an incredible degree”

"Actions should be taken to reduce the number of civilian casualties”

"The United States neglected the mechanisms in the Arab-Israeli conflict zone and relied on the material needs of the people in Palestinian territory."

"When creating Israel there was also talk about creating a sovereign Palestine, but this was never done"

"It is unknown whether it will be possible to calm the situation between Israel and Palestine in the near future, but this could lead to big problems"

"Both in the USA and in Israel there are many supporters of the creation of an independent Palestinian state, but the forces advocating a military solution are gaining the upper hand"

"The bitterness in Israel and Palestine is very great, but we must strive to minimize civilian losses, leave children and women alone."

"The aggravation in Israel will not affect oil production, but it may affect logistics, insurance, freight.”

"The accusations against Iran of involvement in the aggravation of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict are unsubstantiated."

"I don’t understand why the United States is pulling aircraft carrier groups towards Israel, this is aggravating the situation"

"Initially, when the decision was made to create the State of Israel, a parallel decision was made to create a second state. Initially, it was about the creation of two independent and sovereign states - Israel and Palestine... Israel, as you know, was created, but Palestine, as an independent and sovereign state, was never created."

https://x.com/CensoredMen/status/1712092747539091576

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
🇮🇱🇪🇬🇵🇸 Israel threatens to bomb Egypt aid trucks heading to Gaza

Egyptian trucks carrying vital aid and fuel to the besieged and bombarded Gaza Strip have been forced to retreat after Israel warned Cairo that the trucks would be bombed if they entered the enclave.

Despite threats Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi directed a comprehensive convoy loaded with large amounts of humanitarian aid to be sent to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

Egypt's National Alliance for Civilian and Development Action said the aid convoy includes doctors from various specialties, medicines, and medical equipment.

The National Alliance said it will continue its efforts to send more humanitarian assistance of all forms.

El-Sisi also said that Egypt is intensifying its diplomatic efforts at all levels to halt the current military confrontations.

africaintel

https://x.com/dana916/status/1712096449192718702

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1712107220396085447

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[Sirus]

#BREAKING: Hezbollah officially opens northern front against Israel, recent air incursion includes paraglider commandos.

https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1712128668464566427
(https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1712128668464566427?t=xb8BNlC7PY3TRSMNRvP7fQ&s=19)1712128668464566427

[Sirus]

#BREAKING: Dozens of drones launched at Israeli civilian centers from southern Lebanon.

https://x.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1712126824006779193
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[Delight]

How did the HAMAS attack occur with no early warning?... the playbook from the past shows this is never the case.

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[SilentFeathers]

2 more days, Friday the 13th????? "They" always use symbolism like this when they do their dirty work.
It wouldn't surprise me if something happens here within the US on Friday.


A leader and founding member of Hamas, Khalid Mashal, reportedly called for a global Jihad on Tuesday, asking Muslims around the world to target the people of Israel on Friday, Oct. 13.

This is breaking news that will be updated as more information becomes available. Keep reading below.

Video of Mashal’s reported call to violence was posted on YouTube and remains up on the platform as of Wednesday at 10 a.m.

According to a translation and analysis of the video by author Brother Rachid, Mashal referred to his proposed day of anger as “the Friday of Al-Aqsa flood,” which will “send a message of rage to Zionists and to America.”

“The most important thing: He asked all Muslims around the world to carry Jihad by their souls; to fight and be martyrs for Al-Aqsa. He wants Muslims to fight against the Jews, starting with Muslims who live in the countries surrounding Israel: Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt (but also other countries), to go to the borders and try to enter, each by his own means,” Rachid explained. “He said: This is the time for Jihad to be applied on the ground rather than just in theory. He asked the Mujahedeen to go in long caravans to spell their blood on the land of Palestine.”

Report: Hamas calls for global Jihad, invasion of Israel, attack Jews worldwide on Oct. 13 (https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/10/report-hamas-calls-for-global-jihad-invasion-of-israel-attack-jews-worldwide-on-oct-13/)
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/10/report-hamas-calls-for-global-jihad-invasion-of-israel-attack-jews-worldwide-on-oct-13/


Israel war: Eric Adams warns of terror attack on NYC by 'lone wolves' radicalized by Hamas
New York City Mayor Eric Adams warned of possible lone-wolf terrorist attacks by individuals radicalized by Hamas following a gruesome act of terrorism in Israel.
https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/114659/new-york-city-lone-wolf-attack-hamas

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/battleforeurope/status/1712018895890985117

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https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1712132013325771224

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[Vicus]

Western virtue signaling goes hypersonic over Israel 11 Oct, 2023

With all the rhetoric bluster and warmongering coming from Washington and Brussels, it’s clear that peace isn’t their first priority

“Israel has the right to defend itself – today and in the days to come. The European Union stands with Israel,” tweeted European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, effectively blessing a carte blanche response by the notoriously measured and restrained Israeli leadership in response to the Hamas attacks.

“Who do you think you are? You’re unelected, and have no authority to determine EU foreign policy, which is set by @EUCouncil,” replied Irish MEP Clare Daly. “Europe does NOT ‘stand with Israel’. We stand for peace. You do not speak for us. If you’ve nothing constructive to say, and you clearly don't, shut up.” :clapping:

In a single tweet, von der Leyen managed to position all of Europe as more militant than even the editorial staff of one of Israel’s main national newspapers, Haaretz, which placed blame for the attacks squarely on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, accusing him of “annexation and dispossession” which “openly ignored the existence and rights of Palestinians.” The implication is that no action occurs in a vacuum absent the risk of sparking a reaction.

The danger of Europe’s unelected Queen Ursula unilaterally launching hypersonic virtue signaling missiles in a knee-jerk emotional response is that it can’t possibly substitute for foreign policy decided in more sobering moments. Yet these days, more often than not, it’s the only kind of foreign policy we get, on everything from Israel to Ukraine.

In yet another example of symbolism getting ahead of policy pragmatism, the EU announced withdrawal of its support for Palestine … before walking back the move just hours later. On Monday, Israel’s defense minister announced that the IDF was going to blockade Gaza even more than usual by preventing any entry of water, food, fuel, and electricity. And just a couple hours later, EU Neighborhood and Enlargement Commissioner Oliver Varhelyi said the bloc was joining the cause – by withholding its humanitarian funding for the Palestinian people. Germany and Austria were the first to get the ball rolling on funding withdrawal. However, a few hours later, the EU aid freeze was reversed by the bloc’s foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell, after an apparent epiphany that it would only end up “punishing all the Palestinian people” and would have “only further emboldened terrorists.” There’s no way Brussels may have been inadvertently funding those terrorists in the first place, is there?

All the virtue signaling in the world can’t now compensate for a lack of due diligence that the schizophrenic withdrawal and subsequent reinstatement of Palestinian funding suggests. It wouldn’t be the first time that innocent people suffered because of Brussels’ incompetence. Just ask the people of the entire European bloc currently facing seemingly endless economic hardship so their leaders can keep patting themselves on the back for supporting Ukraine.

And just like in Ukraine, Brussels doesn’t seem too interested in availing itself of an opportunity to play any kind of a mitigating or thoughtful role amid this conflict, but is rather taking its usual seat in riding shotgun to the US neocons on whatever the current thing happens to be.

continue: https://swentr.site/news/584663-israel-warmongering-us-brussels/

[Vicus]

Which Territories Does Hamas Control?

On October 7, the Palestinian militant group launched a surprise attack on Israel, targeting it with a barrage of missiles and infiltrating it by land, sea and air. Israeli Defense Forces were caught off guard and many troops were shot or taken captive.
Many experts, including former military officers, have described the Hamas-led operation as a "9/11 level event" and "major intelligence failure" for Israel.
The Israeli government sent troops to reconquer southern territories and expulse Hamas forces, while simultaneously shelling the Gaza Strip with missiles.
On October 8, the Israeli government invoked article 40 of the Basic Law which means that the country is in a state of war. Right now, Hamas controls a solid part of Israeli territory despite IDF efforts.
Have a look at Sputnik's infographic to see which land Hamas claimed in the course of the clashes.

https://cdn1.img.sputnikglobe.com/img/07e7/0a/09/1114038172_0:0:0:0_600x0_80_0_0_bd4a1826feef923535f21e149d13b25b.png.webp

https://sputnikglobe.com/20231008/which-territories-does-hamas-control-1114019252.html

[Dennis Leahy]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1712125073589428608

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To be clear (since there was no text commentary) I believe that is a photo of 'white phosphorus' - yet another internationally outlawed, indiscriminate form of extermination - being rained down on Gaza by Israel.

[Vicus]

Israel Delays Regional Elections by at Least 3 Months Amid Escalating Conflict - Reports 40 minutes ago

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Israeli Interior Ministry has announced that upcoming elections for local municipal and regional councils have been postponed amid the escalation of the Palestine-Israel conflict, an Israeli newspaper reported on Wednesday. :sherlock:

The interior ministry said that the elections would be delayed by at least three months, the newspaper reported. The last time such measures were taken was during the 1973 Yom Kippur War, when the country fought with a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria, the report said.
Earlier on Wednesday, the Palestinian Health Ministry stated that the death toll in the Gaza Strip from Israeli attacks had reached 1,055 and another 5,184 people had been injured. At the same time, media reported that the number of those killed among Israeli citizens as a result of the escalation of the Palestine-Israel conflict had surpassed 1,200 people and nearly 3,000 had been wounded. The fate of the 150 people brought to the Gaza Strip as hostages by the Palestinian movement Hamas reportedly remains unknown.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20231011/israel-delays-regional-elections-by-at-least-3-months-amid-escalating-conflict---reports-1114108180.html

[SilentFeathers]

At least 22 Americans killed in Israel, State Department reports
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[Gwin Ru]

...

... ooopppsss...Saddam's incubators reloaded:

FreedomDoc1/8010


https://t.me/FreedomDoc1/8010

[Delight]

I trust Maajid Nawaz

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[Bill Ryan]

ISRAEL vs PALESTINE: Did WW3 Just Begin? Everything You Need to Know

Oct 11, 2023
Patrick Bet-David explains the Israel vs Palestine conflict, whether or not it could lead to WW3, and everything else you need to know about Hamas' attack.--q2209nFlQLoI've NOT listened to this yet, but Patrick Bet-David is very smart, aware, and usually pulls no punches. Of note is that he's an Iranian... so I'd imagine the video is pretty interesting.

:muscle:

[Bill Ryan]

From The Moon of Alabama:


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-plans-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza.html#more

U.S. Plans to Ethnically Cleanse Gaza

This is, presumably, the U.S.-Israeli plan for the Palestinian people in Gaza:
Harry Sisson @harryjsisson - 1:44 UTC · Oct 11, 2023 (https://twitter.com/harryjsisson/status/1711920721603989552) Amazing: President Biden is working on a plan with other countries that would allow civilians to safely leave Gaza and cross the border into Egypt. This is great news. President Biden is making sure that innocent people don’t die due to the actions of Hamas. That’s leadership.
No, it is not leadership. It is ethnic cleansing, a war crime (https://www.britannica.com/topic/ethnic-cleansing) disguised as humanitarian gesture. It is ethnic cleansing of people who's land has been stolen by Zionist settlers. These people would have no right of return to the homes and land they once owned. People who have been put into an open air prison, who have no access to electricity, water and food and are currently under intense attacks.

Egypt, the only country where they potentially could be moved to, is already bankrupt. It can not even provide for its own people. Two million new people from Gaza, all poor and some of them radicalize, would undoubtedly unbalance the Egyptian state.

Should such a plan be put into action it would guarantee that the resistance axis, Hezbollah and various other Sunni and Shia groups in the Middle East, would step in. The would attack Israel to prevent such a move.

The U.S. thinks it can deter resistance action by threatening to move in with its own forces. That's why the USS Herald Ford, its newest carrier, was moved into the Eastern Mediterranean. Rumors have it that a second carrier will come in too. But the resistance can not be deterred by that. The last time the U.S. tried to intervene in Lebanon it ended up with 241 dead Marines and had to retreat in shame. Hezbollah at that time was only a handful of men. Today Hezbollah has thousands of very well trained men. Then there are also Iran and Russia:
agitpapa @agitpapa - 12:24 UTC · Oct 11, 2023 (https://twitter.com/agitpapa/status/1712081782739263833) As I said in my analysis today of the NATO intervention in the Israeli northern front, it's inconceivable that Russia should stay silent in the face of such brazen NATO overreach. This seat-of-the-pants, unmandated NATO panic move will speed up Russia's pivot from pro-Israel to pro-Arab that started with the deaths of Russian airmen caused by an IAF aggression against Syria and was locked in with Netanyahu's support for the nazi regime in Kiev.
The Russian military has long identified Israel as an enemy state and Putin is now conceding to them, acknowledging the failure of yet another one of his strategies, namely the political use of the Russian Jewish community in Israel via his "friend" Avigdor Lieberman. Russian Jews in Israel are virulently anti-Arab, so Putin tried not to upset them.
Today, however, with Bibi bringing in the full might of NATO to the Eastern Mediterranean to threaten not only Lebanon but Russian bases in Syria, it's no more Mr. Nice Guy. With Patrushin and Shoygu holding the reins of state and a clear and present NATO threat on Syria's doorstep, expect a strong and unexpected Russian intervention in the multifront Israel-Hamas-Hezbollah war.
See also:
THE SILENCE OF THE BEARS – RUSSIA IS REORIENTING TOWARDS THE ARABS (https://johnhelmer.net/the-silence-of-the-bears-russia-is-reorienting-towards-the-arabs/)

Adding:
Rybar Force @rybar_force - 15:52 UTC · Oct 11, 2023 (https://twitter.com/rybar_force/status/1712134176512553471) ❗️🇱🇧🇺🇸 The American Embassy in Lebanon is being evacuated. American citizens are advised to leave the country as soon as possible.
It looks like the American leadership will have to keep its word and join the war on the side of Israel after all.
Ooops:
U.S. Embassy Beirut @usembassybeirut - 16:23 UTC · Oct 11, 2023 (https://twitter.com/usembassybeirut/status/1712142007416631391) The U.S. Embassy in Beirut has not evacuated and is open and operating normally. Reports saying otherwise are false. For more information and travel advisories, visit our embassy website: lb.usembassy.gov (http://lb.usembassy.gov)

[Bill Ryan]

A 1-minute video from the Wall Street Journal of the Israeli air force bombing the Islamic University of Gaza.

A Hamas training camp, said Israel. Scott Ritter told Judge Napolitano just now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7cQQ5vnf4) that Hamas personnel in Gaza are currently all bunkered deep underground — of course.

The only people being killed in these bombing raids will be civilians. Hamas militia won't just be sitting there looking at the sky.

:flower:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNZzufcyplg

[Ewan]

From The Moon of Alabama:


U.S. Plans to Ethnically Cleanse Gaza



OMG, that expression -

Ethnically Cleanse

It has somehow reached normality? Seriously, WTF!

[Ernie Nemeth]

Exactly how many years does it take to make a claim against some land - 100? And how many more years have to go by before your claim is no longer valid - 2000?

Let's just keep things in perspective here.

[Michel Leclerc]

ISRAEL vs PALESTINE: Did WW3 Just Begin? Everything You Need to Know

Oct 11, 2023
Patrick Bet-David explains the Israel vs Palestine conflict, whether or not it could lead to WW3, and everything else you need to know about Hamas' attack.--q2209nFlQLo

Do I have to say "thank you" Gini?

As for facts, it is useless to me.

But useful was the following: “Isis... when you hear of Hamas... Hezbollah... Isis... think of it as the same... it is the same mindset...”

Useful in this sense, that it may reveal the mindset of Patrick Bet-David (an interesting name for a Christian Iranian), but specifically of his intention to make us think of Hamas, Hezbollah, Isis as “the same thing”.

Or am I missing something?

And... why do you call it “all I need to know”?

I am naturally not inclined, mind you, to heed such a suggestion made by anybody, on any subject, and with any agenda.

[Michel Leclerc]

Text:
The escalation of Israel's war with Palestine will undoubtedly consolidate the Islamic world. Conservatives in the West are again talking about defending the 'Judeo-Christian civilization in the face of Muslims', and the radical ideology of Hamas provides them with a convenient excuse for this. However, a society of deep atheism, materialism and legalization of all kinds of perversions, which has long since abandoned traditional theology and values (and orientations), cannot be considered either Christian or Jewish. If the West, as it is now, supports Israel, it is seriously guilty of something. After all, if the devil's civilization is on your side, then you have done something wrong. There is no such thing as a Judeo-Christian world, it just doesn't make sense. The Islamic world, on the contrary, exists and in it, the traditions are still strong. It turns out that it is not the Judeo-Christians against the Muslims, but the Muslims against the satanic culture, against Dajjal. Biden's idea of combining the theme of support for Ukraine with support for Israel, only underlines this: the West is always on the side of those who submit to its hegemony and serve it. Muslims were not enemies of Ukraine and allies of Russia (with the exception of eschatologically awakened Iran and Syria), but now they will be. Russia is the pole of a multipolar world. Islam is the pole of a multipolar world. Both poles oppose the West's desperate attempts to save unipolarism and its global dominance at any cost, even at the cost of a world war. The Palestinian conflict with Israel was not the frontline of a conflict of civilizations. Now it is. Just as the tensions between Russia and Ukraine were regional in character until the Nazis in Kiev were supported by the West, the war in Ukraine has become the frontline of a global confrontation between multipolarity and unipolarity. The scope of this confrontation is growing. The situation is becoming more and more sinister. Already, billions of people on the planet are convinced that the collective West and its allies are absolute evil and the civilization of the Antichrist. Democrats, globalists and neoconservatives are leading humanity straight into the abyss. Which, strictly speaking, is what demons are supposed to do.

— Alexander Dugin
https://t.me/Dugin_Aleksandr

https://x.com/Agdchan/status/1711820872619528591

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Excellent.

[edina]

Nothing from Tucker yet, at least not on Twitter/X

Elon is rather benignThanks. So interesting. Trump fell into the same trap that RFK did.

Elon was quite smart in his rather meek and mild remarks (though I bet he'll say more later today or tomorrow). The hate is just everywhere right now. He was spot-on about that.

So, Tucker for president. :)
(Btw, I also wonder what Tulsi and Doug Macgregor will say)

Getting back with you on Tulsi's and Doug Macgregor's twitter responses to the Israel situation.

I've discovered in the past couple of days that you can read what looks to be in real time, tweets (what are they called now, X's?) on a platform called Nitter.

Here's nitter links for Tulsi and Macgregor

https://nitter.net/TulsiGabbard

https://nitter.net/DougAMacgregor

Tulsi's Israeli responses are in 2 tweets:
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https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1712035102241574929#m

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https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1711456453742256391#m

Doug Macgregor has a lot to say, so it would probably be easier for you to go to the Nitter link of his account and read on down.

Tucker's episode addressing this is in the Tucker Carlson thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115734-Tucker-Carlson&p=1581180&viewfull=1#post1581180), mostly it's an interview with Vivek, but Tuck is quite expressive in the beginning of that interview. Most here have probably already listened to his last episode. For future reference, if you're not on Twitter/X or don't want to sign in here's Tuck's link on nitter.

https://nitter.net/TuckerCarlson

[Lunesoleil]

VKU0tOJmb6Q

Use the translator, it's super interesting, more than 1155 comments in 24 hours and talking about the hypocrisy of the French president. We only hear praise for Israel on all the maintrean channels, it must be said that many journalists, politicians, etc. are Jews and it is forbidden to criticize at the risk of censorship... I published two articles on my blog in astrology version.
when we get our hands dirty, we get closer to the truth

In Israel, the occupation in question (https://www-humanite-fr.translate.goog/monde/attaque-du-hamas/en-israel-loccupation-en-question?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US)

translation of an article from French into English by Israeli journalist Gideon Levy who was quoted in the video

[Sirus]

From New York Times reporter and photographer at the site of atrocity:
“In all, more than 1,000 soldiers and civilians have been killed in Israel. Nobody could say how many of them were lying here, in Kfar Azza, but it is emerging as one of the worst sites of the bloodshed. Soldiers and rescue workers said scores, possibly hundreds, had been slaughtered here, including grandparents, infants and children.
“It’s not a war or a battlefield; it’s a massacre,” said Maj. Gen. Itai Veruv, an Israeli commander on the scene. “It’s something I never saw in my life, something more like a pogrom from our grandparents’ time.”

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1712040321180127475
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[Lunesoleil]

2 more days, Friday the 13th????? "They" always use symbolism like this when they do their dirty work.
It wouldn't surprise me if something happens here within the US on Friday.

It was reported on an Instagram post that a French journalist can upload his name to receive a live testimony on Europe 1 radio from a woman who said that the day of the October 7 conflict coincided with the October 7, 1973 war of Yom Kippur.
Saturday 7/10/23 was the Jewish Sabbath and 6/10/73 was also the Sabbath, quite curious to have chosen this date. In astrology March in conjunction with the South Node as on September 11, 2001
In the same order with Mars conjunction South Node
* November 13, 2015: the Paris attacks and the day before when a terrible attack took place in Beirut
* July 22, 2011: murders of 77 people, the majority of them teenagers, by Norwegian Anders Breivik
To name just these dates...

[Lunesoleil]

https://plateforme-palestine.org/local/cache-vignettes/L438xH285/arton5183-4b3c2.jpg?1643145252

From The Moon of Alabama:

I'm here Bill (the Moon), Michel Midi from the Youtube channel Investig'Action, said among other things because he said a lot of things that if Israel did not have Gas and Oil, this country would not be supported by Europe and the United States, because if there were only fields of turnips, a long time ago and it's me who says it, Palestine would not have lost its territory and been reduced to nothing.
There were to be two important events in France on October 13 and 14, I think that this event of October 7 will have disrupted the programs and in addition at the time of the Solar Eclipse which often acts a few days before the impact...

https://media.giphy.com/media/HjpunJpg0trMs/giphy.gif

[norman]

https://i2.wp.com/1.bp.blogspot.com/-7z-3TF3U7UQ/X0gBG--W1TI/AAAAAAAAEFI/tSuPexcPVbUfAwyJSFDIv9V33QLahXaegCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/HRH%2BPrince%2BGharios%2BEl%2BChemor%2B.jpg?zoom=0.8999999761581421&resize=523%2C348&ssl=1

Prince Gharios el Chemor of Ghassan al Numan of Lebanon is a Vatican Knight that oversees terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. - [according to brutalproof.net (https://brutalproof.net/2023/07/child-traffickers-child-sacrifice-satanic-witches-welcome-to-the-world-of-the-filthy-rich-elitests/)]




https://i1.wp.com/1.bp.blogspot.com/-P3yUSWDpX3Y/XsuAnGQMvPI/AAAAAAAAC7o/cg1CihIZ6d4mYdM8a34HAy-1hFp_96qygCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/Prince%2BDomenico%2BNapoleone%2BOrsini123.jpg?zoom=0.8999999761581421&resize=523%2C347&ssl=1
Prince Domenico Napoleone Orsini is an owner of the Israeli Mafia, Ursino Ndrangheta mafia clan, Cleveland crime family and a top overseer of the Rosicrucian Order. The Orsinis have a rose on their coat of arms and they are top architects of Alchemy which is chemical witchcraft. The Orsinis are a major bloodline of the Black Nobility and they produced popes, dozens of cardinals and bishops and they have been major landowners with dozens of titles of lords, barons, and princes. - [according to brutalproof.net (https://brutalproof.net/2023/07/child-traffickers-child-sacrifice-satanic-witches-welcome-to-the-world-of-the-filthy-rich-elitests/)]

[Inversion]

There's definitely reoccurring patterns and themes. The below examples are colossal intelligence failures or false flags.

Israel- The attack date 107 (https://www.numberempire.com/107) is the 28th prime and 10723 is the 1307th prime, the year the Knights Templars were rounded up. The attacking side used name Operation Al-Aqsa Storm and Israel used Operation Iron Swords. The USA had Operation Desert Storm and Sword (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118618-The-Washington-DC-Boundary-Stones-and-M42&p=1525014&viewfull=1#post1525014) was the name of a landing beach during D-Day.

Maui- Strangely everyone dropped the ball in an orchestrated fashion.

9/11- It's the 156th prime and probably the most famous anomalous event in history.

Pearl Harbor- The date 127 is the 31st prime. The Department of War moved ships out to sea before the attack.

[Ravenlocke]

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https://insiderpaper.com/11-un-staff-30-pupils-at-un-schools-killed-in-gaza-spokesman/

11 UN Staff, 30 Pupils At UN Schools, Killed In Gaza: Spokesman
October 11, 2023 1:34 pm

At least 11 UN staff and personnel, as well as 30 students at UN schools, have been killed in the Gaza Strip since Hamas militants launched their attack on Israel, a spokesman said Wednesday.

“11 UNRWA staff and personnel have been killed since Saturday,” spokesman Stephane Dujarric told reporters, referring to the UN agency for Palestinian refugees which also runs schools in Gaza.

“30 UNRWA students have also been killed and another eight have been injured.”

The dead included five teachers, a gynecologist, an engineer, a counselor and three support staff, UNRWA’s deputy director Jennifer Austin said in a statement.

“UNRWA mourns this loss and is grieving with our colleagues and the families,” she said.

“UN staff and civilians must be protected at all times during conflict. We call for the fighting to come to an end to spare more civilian lives lost.”

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres also called for civilians to be protected, and international humanitarian law to be upheld, as Israel on Wednesday kept up its bombardment of Hamas targets in Gaza.

“About 220,000 Palestinians are now sheltering in 92 UNRWA facilities across Gaza,” he said, adding that UN premises, hospitals, clinics and schools must “never be targeted.”

“UN staff are working around the clock to support the people of Gaza and I deeply regret that some of my colleagues have already paid the ultimate price,” he said.

And he called for “crucial” aid — including fuel, food and water — to be allowed in to the Gaza Strip.

“We need rapid and unimpeded humanitarian access now.”

[Ravenlocke]

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Ali7861216216/status/1712203141209313456

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[ExomatrixTV]

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/KNetwork42336/status/1712149561047994590

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
New investigation by "The Gray Zone" traced back the source of the "beheaded Israeli babies" propaganda, finding that the soldier, who was
@i24NEWS_EN
's journalist source is David Ben Zion, a fanatical settler extremist, who had incited riots to ‘wipe out’ Palestinian village.

Read the full investigation: https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-settler-wipe-out-palestinian/

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1712210821634257211

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/wallacemick/status/1712163107970101690

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[marielle]

Here is Alistair Crooke talking about factions in Israel and what might happen soon.

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This is a quote from another board I frequent:

Crooke is warning that plans to replace al-Aqsa with the third temple is well advanced, its proponents are well entrenched in Israeli parliament and they've met under the mosque to proclaim the ground. They apparently even have the three red heifers needed to be sacrificed to launch the reconstruction of the temple. This is truly apocalyptic stuff.

[ExomatrixTV]

The ENTIRE Israel-Palestine conflict in a nutshell:

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How did the situation in Israel\Palestine get to where it is today? Watch to find out.

[ExomatrixTV]

Piers Morgan vs Ben Shapiro On Israel-Hamas War:

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Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by Jewish political commentator Ben Shapiro to discuss the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas after the group massacred over 1,000 Israelis during a festival.

The pair discuss some of the media's reaction and coverage of the Israel-Hamas war, the protests in support of Palestine and some of the inappropriate comments that have been made, Ben's initial reaction to the attacks as a Jewish man, finding a peaceful resolution and much more.

[norman]

Martin Armstrong warns: Terror attack on Israel a joint intelligence operation to draw RUSSIA into World War III
Health Ranger Report

Martin Armstrong is a mixed bag. He has great knowledge of economic and sociopolitical dynamics, but has silly blind spots to make any self respecting conspiracy theorists cringe. Or, maybe, he talks the right talk to stay alive and afloat.

https://www.brighteon.com/2ad19673-955c-4644-8e35-4e21f32e1fc6

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[gini]

In many of the interviews with survivers of the party near Gaza ( and a parent of kidnapped girl) i see them talking while crying without tears.. and some stating that Hamas did this because they hate Jews ,(not Israelies!)but the party was an international crowd and many non jews have been killed & kidnapped (and this could have the effect to get many more countries involved.).,i dont know why , but some parts looks like done with crisisactors,.

[ExomatrixTV]

Russia Has The Solution To Gaza Crisis! – Norman Finkelstein:

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In response to this past weekend’s deadly attacks on Israel by militants from Gaza, Russia has released a statement calling for an end to violence and for the conflict to be resolved on the basis of international law. The proposed resolution would entail a return to the 1967 borders and a two-state solution.

Guest host Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger talk to professor and author Norman Finkelstein about the Russian offering and why it’s far more productive than the kind of boilerplate “We stand with Israel” palaver coming from the likes of EU President Ursula von der Leyen.

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[shaberon]

Russia is the pole of a multipolar world. Islam is the pole of a multipolar world. Both poles oppose the West's desperate attempts to save unipolarism and its global dominance at any cost, even at the cost of a world war.

This.

Or, since Islam spans countries, then you can say Islam and Christianity are these two poles, the latter consisting primarily of Russia, Greece, Serbia.

[shaberon]

“Who do you think you are? You’re unelected, and have no authority to determine EU foreign policy, which is set by @EUCouncil,” replied Irish MEP Clare Daly. “Europe does NOT ‘stand with Israel’. We stand for peace. You do not speak for us. If you’ve nothing constructive to say, and you clearly don't, shut up.”

The danger of Europe’s unelected Queen Ursula unilaterally launching hypersonic virtue signaling missiles in a knee-jerk emotional response is that it can’t possibly substitute for foreign policy decided in more sobering moments. Yet these days, more often than not, it’s the only kind of foreign policy we get, on everything from Israel to Ukraine.



"These days" as of the 1600s.

Yeah, no...it literally has no allies, does it? No one?? Must not be. A Defense Treaty would have to pass the hands of elected authorities. Pfft. No, it has the catered devotion of unelected death merchants.

[pueblo]

I had not heard of the Samson Option before. Maniacal delusion are the only words that come to mind...


Some have written about the "Samson Option" as a retaliation strategy. In 2002, the Los Angeles Times published an opinion piece by Louisiana State University professor David Perlmutter which the American Jewish author Ron Rosenbaum writes "goes so far as to justify" a Samson Option approach:[32]

Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow—it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?[33]

Rosenbaum writes in his 2012 book How the End Begins: The Road to a Nuclear World War III that, in his opinion, in the "aftermath of a second Holocaust", Israel could "bring down the pillars of the world (attack Moscow and European capitals for instance)" as well as the "holy places of Islam." He writes that "abandonment of proportionality is the essence" of the Samson Option.[dubious – discuss][34]

In 2003, a military historian, Martin van Creveld, thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[35] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's The Gun and the Olive Branch (2003) as saying:

We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[36]

However, according to Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Yaakov, who was the mastermind behind the "Samson Option", it was unlikely Israel could have even targeted Europe, as Israel did not yet have other measures like bombs or missiles to carry the nuclear payload.[37]

In 2012, in response to Günter Grass's poem "Was gesagt werden muss" ("What Must Be Said") which criticized Israel's nuclear weapons program, Israeli poet and Holocaust survivor Itamar Yaoz-Kest published a poem entitled "The Right to Exist: a Poem-Letter to the German Author" which addresses Grass by name. It contains the line: "If you force us yet again to descend from the face of the Earth to the depths of the Earth—let the Earth roll toward the Nothingness." Jerusalem Post journalist Gil Ronen saw this poem as referring to the Samson Option, which he described as the strategy of using Israel's nuclear weapons, "taking out Israel's enemies with it, possibly causing irreparable damage to the entire world."[38]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

[norman]

In 2015, Kerry Cassidy interviewed Kameran Faily. He claimed to be a member of a family that has helped settle middle eastern disputes for generations and is now himself involved in the black screens end of world banking and as such is quite privy to the real stuff of world power shenanigans, including an awareness of the off-world element.

The entire interview was very long and a tough listen. Here's a very short snippet from near the end when he passed on a warning to anyone who might consider using nuclear weapons.

Audio mp3
KAMERAN FAILY - 2015 - The NAZIs and the Nuke warning (https://app.box.com/s/86n2c8qm76f2iz3peznkj2j7bnm5xd9k) 5 minutes 14 seconds


For anyone interested in a much fuller brief on the real power politics of the middle east, as of 2015, here's an edited and cleaned up chunk of the interview that goes very deeply into who's who in the middle east and the real story of the Iran deal that Trump so emphatically protests. It's very different from the media story but fits it.

Audio mp3
KAMERAN FAILY INTERVIEW III (https://app.box.com/s/8jsbiupn7zz6s54vlphqp03uyg8r185e) 1 hour 53 minutes

[Andre]

What's most unnerving here, from a relatively neutral observation, is how in the heck one of the most vaunted and lauded intelligence agencies on the planet managed to miss this. Or did they allow this to happen?

I think the answer to that question is very obvious.

[shaberon]

Prince Domenico Napoleone Orsini is an owner of the Israeli Mafia, Ursino Ndrangheta mafia clan, Cleveland crime family and a top overseer of the Rosicrucian Order.


Interesting.

About as Guelph as could be.

If you make it to the end of their blurb in Britannica (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Orsini-family):


From the 16th century it became regular for an Orsini to hold the office of prince assistant to the pontifical throne.


There is such a thing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_assistant_to_the_papal_throne#:~:text=The%20Prince%20Assistant%20to%20the,into%20the%20curren t%20Papal%20Household.):

The Orsini family held the title from 1735 to 1958.


However the office and title were suppressed in 1968.

It is folded into the Papal Household and the word "prince" has been removed.

Wrist-slashing incident about them in Time 1958 (https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,868243,00.html).

It is not easy to see who actually is Assistant to the Papal Throne now. The office, itself, is not the top one, nor does it carry any authority. It positions you as the interface between Popes and Heads of State.

What that means outside of a formal, ceremonial procedure is unclear.




It came up not too long ago in a Vatican post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118445-Diabolism-and-Plandemic&p=1495293&viewfull=1#post1495293):


A step further into the "Vatican Assassins" mythos claims a Gray Pope of the powerful Orsini family. John Perkins's sources were mostly a few boxes of Executive Intelligence Review (LaRouche):



Pepe Orsini of the Roman Maximus Clan.



Okay so Perkins fluffed up EIR a little bit. He is then copied to an article called Vatican Zoroastrianism (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican144.htm):




He is the Grey Pope and is the King of the Holy Roman Papal Bloodlines. Above the Rothschilds and Rockefellers but in line and of equal stature to the Breakspear, Aldobrandini, and other Papal Bloodlines...

Knight of Malta, Tom Cruise donates to the Optimum Population Trust of Manchester, England. He and his father are major depopulationists. Both are tied to the Papal bloodline Orsini family a most powerful family in complete control of the conspiracy. Pepe Orsini is the grey Pope working with his Black Pope in his Society Of Jesus.



The Orsini (Maximus/Orso) family are the Zoroastrianist shadow hierarchy of the Jesuit Order.

The "Illuminati" is only one of the six current heads that make up "the Beast" and there is a head to that beast... a woman who rides that beast, the evil Queen Hephzibah (the matriarch who is said to be the reincarnation of Semaramis).



You will never read any article about her, she is a Nephilim hybrid; a great granddaughter of Lucifer himself, and she is the Mother of the Anti-Christ, and the queen, the Pindar, and others are all afraid of her.


All controlled through the Jesuit Order and their Knights of Malta & Teutonic Knights all based in missile protected Borgo Santo Spirito in Rome.

Pepe Orsini - Italy

Henry Breakspear - Macau, China

This is the true power finally.

This is the Guelph and the Ghibelline power over mankind.

The Cecil family were controlled by the powerful Jesuit family known as the Pallavicini.

Maria Camilla Pallavicini is far more powerful than Queen Elizabeth II.

The Queen and Prince Philip are totally subordinate to the Papal Bloodline the Breakspear Family and their Jesuit UKHQ at 114 Mount Street.

Please go and study who funded Elizabeth I that astronomical amount of money to fight the Spanish, yes Pallavicini.

The most powerful man right now in the conspiracy over this World is a Roman by the name of PEPE ORSINI of the powerful Roman Papal Bloodline the Orsini also known as Orso and the ancient Maximus family.

There is no one more powerful than this figure who is really the Grey Pope.



Those are his grandstanding claims.

I would say it rings extraordinarily true in character, but there is not exactly a lot of other information to pursue about this. Well, surprisingly, to me, about the modern version.

The strange interlinking of Jesuitry and London, yes, that has a lot to do with everything, and we can trace it.

All this about power--what does he mean???

This guy's personal full name has been used three times since the 1300s or something, they do not depend on the Jesuits. It may, instead, be possible that the early Society of Jesus received grants from the Orsinis.

I do not think the Mazzinist Felice Orsini (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1564693&viewfull=1#post1564693) is closely related, having attempted to assassinate Napoleon III right after publication of the first terrorist manual, Propaganda of the Deed. Mazzini definitely collaborated with Lord Palmerston, Urquhart, and Napoleon III. Not with Albert Pike, that is spurious.


We can do large amounts of historical details, but on the modern guy it is hard to say anything other than he is a rich Catholic.

Perkins's argument is to some extent un-falsifiable, just as it is un-verifiable. I don't think you can just tag "Lucifer" as a family member.

It obviously is not a new or mysterious idea that the Orsinis have this long hereditary chain, but unless we know what someone said or did, or what might make their word stronger than that of popes and kings, it ought to be taken with a grain of salt. The Jesuits became as powerful as kings, and they were disbanded as a consequence. Temporarily at least. Then the kings were disbanded.

Do papal agencies collectively have much to do with repeated atrocities in Ukraine, which, subsequently became the source of human cattle for Israel, yes. England had not much effect there in the 1600s but the Pope did. The word "pogrom" entered the English language mostly due to events there.

And so, roughly, the two main factions Perkins refers to are something like Papal and Germanic, on the continent, which from a period of torture figures out how to share an office in London. This one likes Ukraine and Zion. Such a foreign policy is then dictated to the United States.



Gaza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gaza#:~:text=Settlement%20in%20the%20region%20of,agricultural%20goods%20with%20the%20Egyp tians.) isn't exactly anything, it has been built and erased many times, constantly taken over by empires, had cooperation and conflict between every kind of religion, and presses the back end of recorded history:



The site was inhabited between 3300 and 2400/2350 BCE, and covered over 5 hectares.

The only other Egyptian settlement in this area that was older than es-Sakan was Taur Ikhbeineh. The occupation there started in 3500 BC and ended in 3200 BC, while es-Sakan was still flourishing.


It participates in the end of major civilizations at the Meghalayan Age:


Gaza enjoyed demographic and economic growth again when the local Canaanite population began to resettle Tell as-Sakan around 2500, but in 2250, the area experienced a total collapse of civilization and all of the cities in the Gaza region were abandoned by the 23rd century BCE. In its place emerged semi-nomadic cultures with pastoral camps made up of rustic family dwellings which continued to exist throughout the Early Bronze Age IV.

A caravan point of strategic importance from the earliest times, it was constantly involved in the wars between Egypt and Syria and the Mesopotamian powers.



It is not part of any country, it has become a liability no one wants. It perhaps would be less troublesome without the presence of Zion interfering with the ability of native Palestinians to figure it out. Empires at least used it for prosperity.

[Tintin]

What's most unnerving here, from a relatively neutral observation, is how in the heck one of the most vaunted and lauded intelligence agencies on the planet managed to miss this. Or did they allow this to happen?

I think the answer to that question is very obvious.

Yes :flower:

At the time I wrote that I wasn't leaping to conclusions based on previous episodes of malfeasance at the hands of those we're accustomed to organising these things although it was also partially rhetorical.

300 posts later (over 5 days) it's more or less a given that there was collusion, indeed.

And let us never forget that British intelligence (MI6) have their fingerprints all over nearly all these types of events. Maybe not so obviously this last Sabbath episode but as we know the foundation of the Israeli state is a construct of British-based Zionists.

Balfour declaration:

https://avalonlibrary.net/The_Balfour_Declaration%20%281917%29/Capture_BalfourDeclaration%20%28with%20seal%29.PNG

[gord]

This is a pretty interesting article from the website of Peter Gerard Myers dated Oct. 12, 2023, and entitled "Foolish Hamas ­they fell into a Mossad trap, and forfeited the moral high ground"

It's fairly long, and I don't have the energy to copy / paste all of it and ensure it looks nice too, so I'll just put the link, Peter's copyright notice, the table of contents, and a quote from Victor Ostrovsky's 2nd book included in the article.

I am not myself well enough informed to make any sense of anything, so I'm really just tossing more info in here. The rest of the website is quite interesting as well.

https://mailstar.net/foolish-Hamas.html

Copyright: Peter Myers asserts the right to be identified as the author of the material written by him on this website, being material that is not otherwise attributed to another author.

(0) Foolish Hamas­they fell into a Mossad trap, and forfeited the moral high ground
(1) Ari Ben-Menashe on Mossad posing as "Palestinian Terrorists"
(2) Mossad preferred Hamas to PLO ­ Victor Ostrovsky, former Mossad officer
(3) Hamas forfeited the moral high ground
(4) Netanyahu ignored repeated warnings from Egyptian intelligence
(5) Orchestrated by Netanyahu?
(6) Economist Intelligence Failure
(7) Did Mossad let it happen? Philip Giraldi and Prof Michel Chossudovsky
(8) No, the Hamas Invasion Was Not an Israeli 'Intelligence Failure'
(9) Netanyahu Gets His War
(10) Israel has secretly been supplying weapons to Ukraine

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(2) The Mossad realized that it had to come up with a new threat to the region, a threat of such magnitude that it would justify whatever action the Mossad might see fit to take.

The right-wing elements in the Mossad (and in the whole country, for that matter) had what they regarded as a sound philosophy: They believed (correctly, as it happened) that Israel was the strongest military presence in the Middle East. In fact, they believed that the military might of what had become known as "fortress Israel" was greater than that of all of the Arab armies combined, and was responsible for whatever security Israel possessed. The right wing believed then - and they still believe - that this strength arises from the need to answer the constant threat of war.

The corollary belief was that peace overtures would inevitably start a process of corrosion that would weaken the military and eventually bring about the demise of the state of Israel, since, the philosophy goes, its Arab neighbors are untrustworthy, and no treaty signed by them is worth the paper it's written on.

Supporting the radical elements of Muslim fundamentalism sat well with the Mossad’s general plan for the region. An Arab world run by fundamentalists would not be a party to any negotiations with the West, thus leaving Israel again as the only democratic, rational country in the region. And if the Mossad could arrange for the Hamas (Palestinian fundamentalists) to take over the Palestinian streets from the PLO, then the picture would be complete.

—Victor Ostrovsky, The Other Side of Deception (Harper Collins Publishers, New York 1994) – pg. 197

[Tintin]

Irish MEPs Clare Daly and Mick Wallace two of maybe only a dozen or so sane voices in the European Parliament drafted a statement in response to the "solemn moment" at the parliament yesterday. The thread itself is worth perusing.

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Statement on today's unconscionable "solemn moment" outside the European Parliament, during which MEPs and the leaders of the EU institutions appeared to give unconditional support to Israel even as it flattens Gaza and massacres innocent civilians.

Source: Clare Daly on Twitter/X (https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1712209351329386560)

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[Tintin]

Scott Ritter with Judge Andrew Napolitano recorded yesterday, Wednesday, October 11th :flower:

Title: Origins of Hamas/Israeli Conflict w/ Scott Ritter

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[Bill Ryan]

Thanks for everyone for their reporting on this situation, which makes it very easy to keep track of the tsunami of news and updates from other sources. A few comments below:


https://x.com/mazzenilsson/status/1712216788291698988
1712216788291698988This is the kind of thing that Tulsi (and many others!) should have said. :flower:


https://x.com/Ali7861216216/status/1712203141209313456
1712203141209313456This surprised me... I had no idea there'd be that kind of support coming from South Korea. I do suspect that there's widespread (but maybe sometimes quiet) support for the historical Palestinian cause in many parts of the world.


1712224350860931561A reminder to all (again!) that this is a false, invented, story which has now been retracted. :facepalm:

[shaberon]

We can do large amounts of historical details, but on the modern guy it is hard to say anything other than he is a rich Catholic.


Missed something here.


This is from a site for avid scribes of Royalty (https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f81/italian-noble-and-princely-families-2-july-2007-2022-a-13326-29.html):


He is married to Martine Bernheim (daughter of banker Antoine Bernheim and previously widow of François-Abraham-Michel Mayer); they are parents of two daughters, Donna Leontia and Donna Cajetana.


...aaaaaand (https://www.premiopaganini.it/history/martine-bernheim-orsini):


57th International Violin Competition "Premio Paganini"

Genoa, 16 - 27 October 2023

...honorary president of the charity foundation dedicated to her brother, the historian and economist Pierre-Antoine Bernheim. She married to Prince Domenico Orsini, she lives in Rome.

41 pictures (https://www.gettyimages.ae/photos/princess-martine-bernheim-orsini-at-home-story-in-rome) of her at home.

Oh, excuse me. "Princess".

I am able to accept that these are actual people and they are not poor.


Ok. Bankers are extraordinarily boring. When we see endowment to brother's legacy, that, perhaps, might give us some of the ideology taking place there in Gray Pope land.

Because these people live in Europe, we have to take information from France (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Antoine_Bernheim), which may be easy to remember because it smells quite Frankist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism):


...en particulier spécialiste du judaïsme et du christianisme ancien ainsi que des études néotestamentaires.

Petit-fils de l'ingénieur et avocat Léonce Bernheim (1886-1944), mort à Auschwitz...

Banquier associé à la banque Lazard, dont il assure – sans entrain – la vice-présidence du siège londonien...

Bernheim est membre de la Society of Biblical Literature...[founded in America 1890 par un théologien protestant, historien des religions et bibliste d'origine suisse formé en Allemagne. Ecumenical --> inter-faith, non-denominational]


...il publie notamment les travaux d'Étienne Trocmé sur L’Enfance du christianisme, de Maurice-Ruben Hayoun pour Le Zohar, aux origines de la mystique juive...


also trifling with:

Jacques, frère de Jésus [James founded the religion of Jerusalem which is Orthodoxy]


...et travaille à une biographie de Paul de Tarse...


According to Marcion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion_of_Sinope), Paul should not have any biography. Only a few Epistles. This is of course a non-Christian view which would dismantle the church at once, unveiling layers of fraud.

The fund since this brother's passing consists of a yearly award to a Bible exegete.

This sounds somewhere between Jewish Christianity and the Religion of No Religion. Which is a bit of a Jesuit survival strategy. Not hardcore Catholicism pushing. This mixed bag which happens to hold several fundamental distortions.

That is some kind of "Catholic Zionism" like Biden isn't it??

Doesn't Catholicism more or less condemn the Jews??

They may be rich, but everything they have is a House of Cards.

[Tintin]

A useful document and neuro-linguistic primer - 116 pages - to aid in deconstructing, and parsing the inevitable continuing deluge of PR to which we will be subject (again) over however many more days, weeks, months....

A snippet:


- (4) “If… If… If… Then.” You cannot simply beat Hamas like a piñata and hope to win the overall message battle. Calling Hamas the terrorists they are doesn’t build Israel’s credibility; it just reduces theirs. And Israel’s credibility needs work. Supporters of Israel must always ultimately offer a positive approach with a negative condemnation. That said, there is a way to do both at the same time: by using ifs. - page 35

The Israel Project's 2009 Global Language Dictionary

Source: https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf

[Bill Ryan]

I've just posted (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120874-The-Third-Secret-of-Fatima&p=1581473&viewfull=1#post1581473) this on the Third Secret of Fatima (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120874-The-Third-Secret-of-Fatima) thread, but I do think it also belongs here.

Xavier Ayral, a very articulate and easy-to-listen-to Frenchman who now lives in the US, is a devout Catholic with not only a strong interest in the prophecies from the many Marian apparitions, but also has a very accurate and grounded understanding of both history and modern geopolitics — and is not fooled by anything. :) I've come to very much value and appreciate his thoughts and insights.

Israel’s Fate, Catholic Prophecy, and the Start of World War 3

https://rumble.com/v3olfva-israels-fate-catholic-prophecy-and-the-start-of-world-war-3.html (https://rumble.com/v3olfva-israels-fate-catholic-prophecy-and-the-start-of-world-war-3.html)
v3m01wg

[Tintin]

SATIRE ALERT!

UPDATE: this is I think satire actually, and kinda felt like it.


"Try and look nice and scared.."

"Can you boost the volume on those explosions?"

"We can't show the earlier bit cos we want people to think you're in danger."

- studio producer tells "international correspondent" Clarissa Ward, who is miles away from where bombs are falling.

:) - dear oh dear...

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/2023-10-10_CNN_staged_footage_starring_Clarissa_Ward_%2B_producer_outtake.mp4

[Ewan]

1712224350860931561

A reminder to all (again!) that this is a false, invented, story which has now been retracted. :facepalm:

What was it? (Just a blank post for me).
I assume the 'beheaded babies (might as well of added incubators in there at same time)' story?





From Bill:
Yes, that was the one. :facepalm:

[SilentFeathers]

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken gives statements to the press with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Blinken arrived in Israel earlier on Thursday. He is expected to meet senior Israeli officials later today as the US strengthens its support for the country. Blinken was greeted at the airport in Tel Aviv by Israel's Foreign Minister Eli Cohen. He's also expected to hold talks tomorrow with the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.
jUJVYRatet4

Even though I despise Antony Blinken, he appears and speaks way more Presidential like than Biden ever could. It wouldn't surprise me if he is "appointed" President in 2024. I personally believe there will never be another "normal" election here in the US ever again.

This whole event appears very similar to 911 in my opinion, inverse though in many ways relating to US and Israel's positions. I do find it strange though that the powers that be haven't put a face out there yet for all to see as the new Boogie man.

Hamas is just phase 1 in my opinion, a face will soon appear for all to see as the new boogie man as this whole thing escalates into new territory.

[Sirus]

BREAKING:

The Airbus A340 carrying the Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister about to land in Damascus also had several commanders of the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps on board and several tons of anti-tank missiles for Hezbollah.

Israel bombed the airport

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1712439647689728487
1712439647689728487

[shaberon]

Watch me pull a rabbit out of the hat.


I basically just accused someone of plagiarism without bothering to care about any proof.

There is a new picture of Prince Orsini, with maybe a few extra titles attached. So I posted why someone might do that. Same formula I have posted for years if anyone knows anything (they don't).

Go back to what Perkins said and see if he did not basically reverse gears on what was in EIR Dec. 1978 (https://www.gerograssi.it/cms2/file/casomoro/B163/0958_002.pdf):


In a book tantalizingly
entitled "Who Killed Aldo Moro?", the ELP runs a 110-
page story of the conspiracy.

Heading the plot was Elizabeth II of England.

Pallavicini, and Colonna
families



As shown in this chart taken from Chi ha ucciso Aldo
Moro, the European Labor Party's explosive expose
on Italian drug-running and terrorism networks, the
Sovereign Military Order of Malta, under the British
Crown, sits directly on top of Italy's "left-versus-right" terrorist confrontation - "Strategia della
Tensione" - and ties into both the right and left of
the political life of the country. both the Socialist
International (left) and the Black International (right),
both Zionists (left) and the "Golpisti," or coupmakers (right)...


Orsini is in the chart, but, not fingered as a major player--that is, not even mentioned in a sentence. QE II is "over" Pallavinci, not the other way around. Naturally, LaRouche includes himself in the future hitlist of this gang (that makes two so far).

The information is attributed to an official European source.

Here's what they say in Italy (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipotesi_sul_caso_Moro):


Questa posizione era stata espressa per la prima volta nell'indagine Chi ha ucciso Aldo Moro? (1978), scritta dal giornalista statunitense Webster Tarpley e commissionata dal parlamentare della DC Giuseppe Zamberletti.



Webster Tarpley wrote it, LaRouche concealed that, and Perkins re-wrote it backwards.

Here is another slight redux from Sri Lanka 2019 (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338079143_BLACK_NOBILITY_TERROR_A_PRODUCTION_OF_REMA_MARKETING_AND_WWW_OLIGARCH_ELITISM_Part_1) on Black Nobility--perhaps less innovative.


Tarpley was perhaps a bit more real as his thesis did indeed lead to the shutdown of P2 (https://brock911.fandom.com/wiki/Webster_Tarpley):


The study claimed that the assassination was a false flag operation orchestrated by the masonic lodge Propaganda Due with the cooperation of senior members of Italian government secret services but blamed on the Red Brigades.


I don't know if we can get the original 110 page report or how it compares to other sources. So far, it would take nothing more than an encyclopedia to toss Orsini into a big chart of people who know people. That does not quite elevate him to the same pedestal as when this phrase, Gray Pope, and corresponding claims are added ad hoc.

I found nothing on this man on ISGP, so there is nothing on this man. Instead there was an oblique reference to Perkins as "disinfo" without saying why, and this may be an example.

These people may not be criminals, which does not mean their New God in Every Cupboard holds any water, or that the Italian Government is not Black Nobility Fascists. It does mean if we are prodded to look with paranoia at someone, that is probably a smokescreen.


Meanwhile (https://sana.sy/en/?p=318478):


The Israeli enemy carried out an air aggression on the two international airports of Damascus and Aleppo, taking them out of service, according to a military source.

The source added that shelling the two airports that occurred simultaneously at 13:50 this afternoon caused material damage to the airstrips which led to their being out of service.

and (https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/12/712577/Islamic-Jihad-commander-killed-Israel-latest-airstrikes-Gaza):


In a statement on Thursday, the Islamic Jihad confirmed that Abdul-Rahman Shehab, a senior commander of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad resistance movement, and his family were killed when the Israeli military carried out airstrikes against targets in the Jabalia neighborhood in the Gaza Strip.


In the land of Liberte' (https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/12/712562/France-criminalizes-public-support-Palestinian-resistance):


“Any attacks on the physical integrity of people from the Jewish community, damage to places of worship or even comments likely to qualify as an apology for terrorism or direct provocation to acts of terrorism, should be met with a systematic criminal response,” the Justice minister added in his short three-page document.

Waving a Hamas flag during a demonstration may constitute the offense of glorifying terrorism, according to the former criminal lawyer.

“Comments praising the attacks, presenting them as legitimate resistance against Israel” as well as the “public dissemination of messages encouraging people to pass a favorable judgment on Hamas or the Islamic Jihad” also include criminal offenses, he asserted.

Meanwhile, the French police banned a pro-Palestinian demonstration that was supposed to be held in Paris on Thursday and a protest in France’s second city of Lyon scheduled for Wednesday evening.

[grapevine]

Former Hamas leader calls for day of jihad on Friday, and tells Muslims to 'take to the streets' in protest against Israel

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12621915/khaled-meshaal-hamas-friday-13th-day-jihad.html

- Khaled Meshaal led Hamas from 2004 to 2017 and now lives in Qatar
- He declared Friday as a worldwide 'Day of Jihad' and urged Muslims to rise up

A former Hamas chief has called for protests to take place across the Muslim world on Friday in support of the Palestinians, and for the peoples of neighbouring countries to join the fight against Israel.

'[We must] head to the squares and streets of the Arab and Islamic world on Friday,' said Khaled Meshaal, who currently heads Hamas's diaspora office.

Meshaal, who is based in Qatar, said the governments and peoples of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt have a bigger duty to support the Palestinians.

'Tribes of Jordan, sons of Jordan, brothers and sisters of Jordan... This is a moment of truth and the borders are close to you, you all know your responsibility,' Meshaal said in a recorded statement. 'To all scholars who teach jihad... to all who teach and learn, this is a moment for the application (of theories).'

Jordan and Lebanon are home to the largest number of Palestinian refugees.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2023/10/12/4504161961697195643/1024x576_MP4_4504161961697195643.mp4

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2023/10/12/4504161961697195643/1024x576_MP4_4504161961697195643.mp4

This is particularly disturbing given the large number of unknown young men who have arrived in the UK illegally and an ineffective and ill-prepared police force.

[Sirus]

The Jerusalem Post can now confirm based on verified photos of the bodies that the reports of babies being burnt and decapitated in Hamas's assault on Kfar Aza are correct.

May their memory be a blessing.

https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1712460425529372821
1712460425529372821

[Sirus]

"Here are some of the photos Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu showed to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

Warning: These are horrifying photos of babies murdered and burned by the Hamas monsters.

Hamas is inhuman.
Hamas is ISIS."

https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/1712471782303867144
1712471782303867144





Mod note from Bill:
I tried to embed the tweet, but apparently it doesn't exist.

[shaberon]

https://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2023/02/manar-05345980016772342712-e1677234357952.jpg

Listen (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1928500):


The military spokesperson for Islamic Jihad’s Al-Quds Brigades, Abu Hamza, has sent a stark warning to ‘Israel’ that its occupation of Palestinian territories will soon face a multi-front confrontation.

He stressed that the scope of fire is expanding, and what the Israeli occupation witnessed in South Lebanon was just a small example of what is coming its way.


https://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2023/10/manar-01285320016971030986-1024x576.png




Edit: removed statement. Article was two weeks old.



Concerning the re-route to Hmeimem (https://southfront.press/israel-attacks-syrias-two-main-airports-amid-war-in-gaza/) from the airport damage:


It also came ahead of an announced visit by Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian to Damascus.


Foreign Ministers don't *usually* travel with loads of ammunition not well-suited for passenger planes, but, if that is what it has, they are in Latakia.

Following the attack, an Israeli Patriot air defense system fired a missile near the front with Syria as a result of a false alert.

[jaybee]

.


This is the opening monologue from George Galloway on the Mother Of All Talk Shows last night - he addresses the story about the alleged beheading of 40 babies during the attack on Israel - it has to be said that George's overall sympathies lie with Palestinians in the Gaza Strip - but also innocent civilians especially women and children on both sides... so of course he is very distressed by the reports of the most hideous of atrocities ... I do believe though that if there was actual evidence of any kind he would not deny the truth - and would learn to live with it....

@4:15.... he begins talking about it all and going back to when the whopping great propaganda lie was touted by all the western media about Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in a Kuwait hospital... it was eventually proved to be a complete fabrication....

@6:12 ....he goes on to the allegations of the beheading babies atrocity - and how it isn't backed up with any evidence - concludes that it isn't a true story...(see video for details) Max Blumenthal of the Greyzone tracked the origin of the report to one Israeli soldier and basically the rest is unverified repetition -

George speaks very strongly about it all... and declares "the story was a foul lie..."

VJYgi7tF6tI

Why Tweets Are Receipts | MOATS with George Galloway Ep 281


11 Oct 2023
It’s a war crime to cut off water and electricity says the EU’s von der Leyen. But only when it’s done by Russia, not Israel. Then she cheers it

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


edit to add transcript of section starting 4:38 .....


on this day 33 years ago a suitably veiled young woman appeared in front of the United Nations described as a nurse from the hospital the Children's Hospital the maternity war in Kuwait City and she tearfully sobbing through her veil Pious you see couldn't be identified sobbing through her B her veil she told the world that she had personally witnessed Iraqi soldiers removing babies from their incubators throwing them on the floor stealing the incubators unplugging them from the walland taking them away back to Iraq it wasn't just a bright shining lie it was an expensively purchased lie a public relations firm in Washington had been hired to manufacture the lie and the young woman behind the veil was not a nurse had not been in Kuwait and had not seen what she claimed to have seen she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador in Washington DC hence the need for a veil


......................I close the parenthesis now because I'm going to get on to very sensitive topics when I learned that 40 Israeli babies had been decapitated by Hamas individuals who had been part of the prison breaker I was filled with a dread a chill that I cannot properly describe to you if this story had been true it would have joined the annals of the most depraved debased cold blooded murder Slaughter da of the Innocents in all history


..........................I immediately doubted it of course for lots of reasons the first was that if this had really happened the gigantic best in the world Best in Class Israeli propaganda machine would have immediately removed any doubt about whether or not it had happened we would have seen the pictures at least of the children while they were still alive we probably would have seen the Blurred images of the decapitated babies but we have seen none of those things even the Israeli State television reporter who first claimed that this had happened then said she had no evidence that it had happened but soldiers had told her that it had happened

.................Max blumental May God preserve him and greyzone have now Tracked Down who was the soldier singular who told this reporter this hideous demonic story and he turns out to be a fanatic settler leader not just a fanatic settler leader but the leader of a particularly atrocious
C of Israeli illegal settlers on the West Bank who had only days before said that he wanted to entirely erase from the earth a Palestinian town this story was All a lie just like the Iraqi incubator
story just like Gaddafi giving Viagra to his soldiers to carry out rapes in Libya before the islamist Fanatics were helped into power inTripoli by France Britain and the United States of America just like so many fake atrocity stories which are manufactured to manufacture consent for what is about to happen or what is already happening


.................this story was a foul lie the liar will never be judged in this life but the West Western journalists and I include every single British newspaper that ran with this story on their front pages today even though by the time the paper had come off the press even Sky News was saying that they would not broadcast this story because it was completely unverified that they had asked the Israeli Army three times if the story was true and had not yet they said and I can add have not now had this story verified it is a lie and if the crime would have been as Grave and depraved a crime as can possibly Be Imagined the crime of inventing it to distract attention from the actual decapitation of hundreds hundreds of Palestinian children under the bombardment in Gaza itself ranks in the annals of the sick art of atrocity propaganda to justify one's own atrocities

.........the hottest Circle in Hell awaits those including some senior people who ought to have known better maybe did know better retailed this story to justify the slaughter of the Innocents in Gaza

[Michel Leclerc]

This is a pretty interesting article from the website of Peter Gerard Myers dated Oct. 12, 2023, and entitled "Foolish Hamas ­they fell into a Mossad trap, and forfeited the moral high ground"

It's fairly long, and I don't have the energy to copy / paste all of it and ensure it looks nice too, so I'll just put the link, Peter's copyright notice, the table of contents, and a quote from Victor Ostrovsky's 2nd book included in the article.

I am not myself well enough informed to make any sense of anything, so I'm really just tossing more info in here. The rest of the website is quite interesting as well.

https://mailstar.net/foolish-Hamas.html

Copyright: Peter Myers asserts the right to be identified as the author of the material written by him on this website, being material that is not otherwise attributed to another author.

(..)

(9) Netanyahu Gets His War

(...)

(2) The Mossad realized that it had to come up with a new threat to the region, a threat of such magnitude that it would justify whatever action the Mossad might see fit to take.

The right-wing elements in the Mossad (and in the whole country, for that matter) had what they regarded as a sound philosophy: They believed (correctly, as it happened) that Israel was the strongest military presence in the Middle East. In fact, they believed that the military might of what had become known as "fortress Israel" was greater than that of all of the Arab armies combined, and was responsible for whatever security Israel possessed. The right wing believed then - and they still believe - that this strength arises from the need to answer the constant threat of war.

The corollary belief was that peace overtures would inevitably start a process of corrosion that would weaken the military and eventually bring about the demise of the state of Israel, since, the philosophy goes, its Arab neighbors are untrustworthy, and no treaty signed by them is worth the paper it's written on.

Supporting the radical elements of Muslim fundamentalism sat well with the Mossad’s general plan for the region. An Arab world run by fundamentalists would not be a party to any negotiations with the West, thus leaving Israel again as the only democratic, rational country in the region. And if the Mossad could arrange for the Hamas (Palestinian fundamentalists) to take over the Palestinian streets from the PLO, then the picture would be complete.

—Victor Ostrovsky, The Other Side of Deception (Harper Collins Publishers, New York 1994) – pg. 197

PA members and observers will not have forgotten the events in Pakistan. The Pakistani Prime Minister’s support for Russia’s position in the Nato expansion conflict centering on Ukraine was the patent rationale for his ousting.

Witnessing the new developments and the fast-approaching identification of Iran and the Mollahs as the “real instigators” just as was done with Iraq and Saddam Hussain after 9/11, would it then not be logical to conclude that the more profound “justification” for Imran Khan’s removal was that he, as pursuing an independent policy for Pakistan, might have made clear that, if Iran were to become the victim of nuclear threats, Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal would defend Iran?

That would of course have been and still be in the WWIII playbook as well, but the AI that optimises it continuously, may have considered that the “West” 's nuclear missiles flying unopposed to the Iranian plateau would be more probably successful in provoking Russia.

[Inversion]

When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 one of the early stories was, they took babies out of incubators and threw them again the wall. Something like would galvanize support for them to be removed. Upon their exit they set fire to over 700 (https://todayinconservation.com/2018/01/january-22-iraq-sabotages-kuwaiti-oil-fields-1991/#:~:text=Beginning%20on%20January%2022%2C%201991,oil%20were%20released%20in%20total.) oil wells. The first casualty of war is the truth.

[Sirus]

When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 one of the early stories was, they took babies out of incubators and threw them again the wall. Something like would galvanize support for them to be removed. Upon their exit they set fire to over 700 (https://todayinconservation.com/2018/01/january-22-iraq-sabotages-kuwaiti-oil-fields-1991/#:~:text=Beginning%20on%20January%2022%2C%201991,oil%20were%20released%20in%20total.) oil wells. The first casualty of war is the truth.

Strangely enough, the Palestinians were allegedly kicked out of Kuwait for supporting Saddam Hussein...

[Vicus]

‘beheaded babies’

A) Source of dubious ‘beheaded babies’ claim is Israeli settler leader who incited riots to ‘wipe out’ Palestinian village

After an Israeli reserve soldier named David Ben Zion told a reporter Palestinian militants “cut [off] heads of babies,” Biden, Netanyahu, and the international media amplified the dubious claim.
The Grayzone has identified Ben Zion as a fanatical settler leader who incited riots by demanding a Palestinian town be “wiped out.”

An international outcry erupted when Israel’s Foreign Ministry announced that Palestinian militants from the besieged Gaza Strip had killed 40 “babies,” and beheaded several of them during an incursion into Kfar Aza, a kibbutz on the Gaza border. President Joseph Biden repeated the inflammatory claim during an October 10 White House Rose Garden address, while networks across the West carried the story without a shred of critical scrutiny.

According to CNN correspondent Nic Robertson, apparently citing Israeli military sources, Palestinian militants carried out, “ISIS-style executions,” in which they were “cutting the heads off of people,” including babies and pets.

The Grayzone has now identified a key source of the claim that Palestinian militants beheaded Israeli babies. He is David Ben Zion, a Deputy Commander of Unit 71 of the Israeli army who also happens to be an extremist settler leader who incited violent riots against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank earlier this year.

In an October 10 interview with reporter Nicole Zedek of the Israeli state-sponsored i24 network, Ben Zion stated, “We walked door to door, we killed a lot of terrorists. They are very bad. They cut heads of children, they cut heads of women. But we are stronger than them.”

He added, “We know that they are animals,” referring to Palestinians, “but we found that they don’t have any heart.”



"They chopped heads of children and women," says David Ben Zion, Deputy Commandee of Unit 71 to our @Nicole_Zedek, while reporting from the massacre in Kfar Aza in southern Israel pic.twitter.com/IHSB0ywMbF

— i24NEWS English (@i24NEWS_EN) October 10, 2023

continue: https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-settler-wipe-out-palestinian/

B)A spokeswoman for the Israeli army said that there was no reliable information about the brutal killings of 200 people and the beheadings of infants in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Aza. The gruesome news was reported by i24 News correspondent Nicole Zedeck.
See more at https://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/157906-kfar_aza_massacre/

No objective evidence to prove Kfar Aza massacre

However, Western media could not obtain objective evidence of the Kfar Aza masaacre. Ben Zion said the same in an interview with BBC correspondent Jeremy Bowen. The journalist noted that he never asked the officer to show him the bodies of the dead to confirm that they were indeed the bodies of civilians rather than Hamas militants.

The brutal slaughter of hundreds of civilians by Hamas attackers is a gross violation of the laws of war, Jeremy Bowen noted. However, the Israelis reject any comparison between the way Hamas fighters kill civilians and the way Palestinian civilians die as a result of Israeli airstrikes, the British journalist concluded. He confirmed that he had not seen any objective data about the alleged atrocities that Hamas militants committed.

CNN reached out to the Israeli military for comment. The Israeli military could not confirm the exact number of victims nor would they go into detail about how those people were killed, CNN said.

continue: https://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/157906-kfar_aza_massacre/

[norman]

Hmmm . . is this a prescribed playbook to scare the sht out of the whole world, or are we really kissing our asses goodnight.

https://t.me/qanonplus/52189
qanonplus/52189

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Biden was told a lie by Netanyahu's officials: that Hamas had beheaded children.

Biden then decided to recycle that lie but add a lie of his own: that he'd actually seen the photos.

Babies being ripped from incubators (Gulf 1991)
Weapons of mass destruction (Iraq 2003)
Viagra-fuelled troops preparing to commit mass rape (Libya 2011)
Hamas beheading babies (Gaza 2023)

There's always a lie ready to grease the tank treads of the West's war machine

https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1712396259045056574

1712396259045056574


https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/biden-lied-about-seeing-photos-beheaded-israeli-children

Biden lied about seeing photos of beheaded Israeli children

The White House confirmed on Wednesday evening that President Joe Biden’s claim that he had seen photos of Israeli children beheaded by Hamas fighters is false.

“I’ve been doing this a long time. I never really thought that I would see, have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children,” Biden said to leaders of US Jewish organizations at the White House on Wednesday evening.

The president was echoing lurid claims by the Israeli government that women and children had been beheaded by Hamas fighters who took over an Israeli settlement across the boundary from Gaza in recent days.

But the administration quickly backtracked on the president’s seeming confirmation of a story Israel has been using to justify its ongoing mass slaughter of Palestinians in Gaza.

“A White House spokesperson later clarified that US officials and the president have not seen pictures or confirmed such reports independently,” The Washington Post reported. “The president based his comments about the alleged atrocities on the claims from Netanyahu’s spokesman and media reports from Israel, according to the White House.”

Journalists spread unverified claims

As Israel pursues its indiscriminate bombardment of Gaza, it is exploiting unverified claims of atrocities to lay the justification for its campaign of mass destruction and starvation of its 2.3 million people – half of them children – who are cut off from food, water and electricity.

In the absence of a full, independent investigation of what took place since Hamas fighters launched their offensive across the boundary on Saturday, the Israeli military and political leadership have been feeding world leaders and media with shocking claims that have not been independently verified.

The claims that Hamas fighters had beheaded 40 children in the Israeli settlement of Kfar Aza near the Gaza boundary were splashed all over the front pages of British newspapers, Israeli media and circulated widely on social media.

It was amplified by a spokesperson for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who asserted that women, children, toddlers and elderly people were “brutally butchered in an ISIS way of action.”
However even the Israeli army – normally not slow to accuse Palestinians of any crime – refused to confirm the report.

Unchallenged

According to Mondoweiss, the story “can be traced back to an article by Bel Trew,” a reporter for the British newspaper The Independent.

Trew went to Kfar Aza on 10 October and published a video with her article in which Israeli army Major David Ben Zion makes the lurid claim that people in the settlement including women and children were beheaded.

Trew never says in the video that she saw such sights nor does she challenge Ben Zion’s claim. She says she saw bodies lying around Kfar Aza, but they were those of Palestinian fighters.

In her article she quotes Ben Zion asserting that “When Hamas came here they cut the heads of women, they cut the heads of children.”

Trew wrote that “The Independent did not see evidence of his claims.”

Oren Ziv, an Israeli journalist who went to Kfar Aza with other reporters, wrote on Twitter on Wednesday that “we didn’t see any evidence” to back up the claims of beheadings “and the army spokesperson or commanders also didn’t mention any such incidents.”

Trew herself later tried to backtrack, but by then the damage was done.
Other atrocity stories with no evidence behind them have included claims that Hamas fighters raped several Israeli women. At least one publication, The Los Angeles Times retracted the assertion.

But despite the lack of evidence, as The Intercept noted, Biden in remarks on Tuesday repeated the claims that women had been “raped, assaulted, paraded as trophies.”

Deadly lies

It should be recalled that the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, ending and destroying millions of lives, based on lies about “weapons of mass destruction” – lies that then Senator Joe Biden had himself pushed for years.

In an earlier notorious incident used by the United States government to justify its 1991 war to expel Iraqi occupation forces from Kuwait, the American public were fed totally fabricated stories of Iraqi troops tossing hundreds of Kuwaiti babies out of incubators.

Biden himself is a notoriously unreliable source, having regularly fabricated significant parts of his own life story.
During the 2020 election campaign, Biden repeatedly claimed that he had been arrested in the 1970s while trying to visit Nelson Mandela, the resistance leader then imprisoned in apartheid South Africa.

Biden later acknowledged the story was false.

As the latest atrocity stories have spread, Sarah Leah Whitson, the former Middle East director for Human Rights Watch, warned, “unless you’ve got some hard facts (not more allegations) to support gruesome allegations of decapitated babies and mass rape – which [the] Israeli army says it can’t confirm – please take a pause from asserting it has happened.”

“Recall the allegations of mass rape in Libya and Syria all turned out to be false, though that did not stop media from repeating it,” Whitson, who now heads the human rights advocacy group DAWN, added.


https://x.com/evanhill/status/1712260928635322502

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[Vicus]

Do you want to see where baby s, woman, elderly,kids, men are burned?

See what it's like on the ground as Israel declares 'complete siege' on Gaza

A humanitarian crisis is rapidly unfolding in Gaza as Israel's aerial bombardments intensify. Nearly 1,200 people have been killed in airstrikes in Gaza, according to Palestinian health officials. CNN's Nada Bashir reports.

graphic video: https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/12/gaza-on-the-ground-israel-airstrikes-bashir-pkg-ovn-hnk-vpx.cnn

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1712500567015063991

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Text:
🇮🇱🇵🇸Israel has stopped supplying electricity and water to Al-Nagab prison, where Palestinian prisoners are being held - the non-governmental organization Committee for Palestinian Prisoners.

According to the committee, there are about 5,100 Palestinians in Israeli prisons, including 36 women and 170 children.

On Saturday, prison authorities isolated all Palestinian prisoners in their cells and blocked access to media and communications.

https://x.com/dana916/status/1712498122247581821

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Text:
🎼Gaza Strip, IDF aviation has worked again.

By working with the civilian population, you will create those who have lost relatives and friends.

And when those who have nothing more to lose due to attacks on civilians appear. They cultivate hatred, which will ultimately only give rise to revenge.

WAGNER GROUP®
https://x.com/dana916/status/1712499935969521784

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1712509069070614845

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https://babylonbee.com/news/lindsey-graham-calls-on-the-united-states-to-bomb-every-country-in-the-world

Lindsey Graham Calls On The United States To Bomb Every Country In The World

WASHINGTON, D.C. — As tensions escalate in the Middle East following the deadly terrorist attacks by Hamas on Israel, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham sought to resolve the conflict and restore peace to the region by calling for the United States to begin bombing every country in the world.

"It's the only solution," Graham said to reporters while advocating for even more hostilities. "If we want to restore peace throughout the world, the only realistic answer is to lay waste to every single nation around the globe."

"What about nations that have no involvement in the conflict?" asked reporter Michael Fuller.

"They're all involved," Graham answered. "Bomb ‘em all. Gone. All of ‘em. Bombs, bombs, bombs. Burn it all down, baby!"

"What about Paris?" Fuller asked.

"Have you seen the demographics of their population?" Graham responded. "Bomb ‘em."

"Montreal?" Fuller pressed.

"Make it a parking lot," Graham said resolutely.

"Tokyo?" Fuller asked, finally.

"Glass the place," Graham answered.

When asked what he expected to be the result of so much widespread bombing, Graham was indifferent. "They'll all know who's boss," he said. "Nothing will stabilize the entire world and ensure the safety of the American people like making every single country in the world hate the United States. On top of all that, some of us will also make massive amounts of money, so I'm very much in favor of this idea."

At publishing time, Graham had reportedly already made a series of phone calls to the Pentagon to inquire about how many "gigantic nukes" the U.S. currently has on hand.

[gini]

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[PathWalker]

falsepositv/11861

There are growing indicators in Israeli news and social channels, that this war started with false flag operation.

Two strong indicators:
1. People reporting the false flag attack indicators are prosecuted. Not ridiculed or gaslighted as before.
2. Israeli MSM is warning the public against these conspiracies. Not ignored as before.

[Vicus]

Egypt Urges Israel Not to Target Rafah Border Crossing in Gaza



Egypt urged all countries and international organizations to provide humanitarian and relief aid to the Palestinians in Gaza.

On Thursday, the Egyptian Foreign Ministry urged Israel to avoid targeting the Rafah crossing on the border between the Gaza Strip and Egypt.

"The Rafah crossing remains open and has not been closed since the beginning of the ongoing crisis, but its basic infrastructure at the Palestinian side was destroyed due to the recurrent Israeli raids which prevent its normal operation," the statement said.

Raids on the Rafah crossing should be evaded, so the crossing can be restored to serve as a life artery for supporting the Palestinian brothers in the strip.

Egypt urged all countries and regional and international organizations to provide humanitarian and relief aid to the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip to reduce their sufferings caused by the continuous and violent Israeli strikes.

Egypt directed international aid for Gaza to al-Arish Airport in the north of Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, the statement said.

On Saturday, the Palestinian Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) launched an operation on Israeli towns adjacent to the Gaza Strip, prompting Israel to launch retaliatory strike

Israel continues its massive airstrikes and has halted the supply of water and electricity. The United Nations reports that at least 200,000 Palestinians have been displaced, with over 120,000 taking shelter in UN schools under challenging conditions.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Egypt-Urges-Israel-Not-to-Target-Rafah-Border-Crossing-in-Gaza-20231012-0005.html

[Sirus]

"Here are some of the photos Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu showed to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

Warning: These are horrifying photos of babies murdered and burned by the Hamas monsters.

Hamas is inhuman.
Hamas is ISIS."

https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/1712471782303867144
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Mod note from Bill:
I tried to embed the tweet, but apparently it doesn't exist.

Hi Bill.

Link works when I click. Its posted by @IsraeliPM on Twitter/X and is the 6th post down.

[Sirus]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1712500567015063991

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🇮🇱🇵🇸Israel has stopped supplying electricity and water to Al-Nagab prison, where Palestinian prisoners are being held - the non-governmental organization Committee for Palestinian Prisoners.

According to the committee, there are about 5,100 Palestinians in Israeli prisons, including 36 women and 170 children.

On Saturday, prison authorities isolated all Palestinian prisoners in their cells and blocked access to media and communications.

https://x.com/dana916/status/1712498122247581821

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Text:
🎼Gaza Strip, IDF aviation has worked again.

By working with the civilian population, you will create those who have lost relatives and friends.

And when those who have nothing more to lose due to attacks on civilians appear. They cultivate hatred, which will ultimately only give rise to revenge.

WAGNER GROUP®
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https://babylonbee.com/news/lindsey-graham-calls-on-the-united-states-to-bomb-every-country-in-the-world

Lindsey Graham Calls On The United States To Bomb Every Country In The World

WASHINGTON, D.C. — As tensions escalate in the Middle East following the deadly terrorist attacks by Hamas on Israel, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham sought to resolve the conflict and restore peace to the region by calling for the United States to begin bombing every country in the world.

"It's the only solution," Graham said to reporters while advocating for even more hostilities. "If we want to restore peace throughout the world, the only realistic answer is to lay waste to every single nation around the globe."

"What about nations that have no involvement in the conflict?" asked reporter Michael Fuller.

"They're all involved," Graham answered. "Bomb ‘em all. Gone. All of ‘em. Bombs, bombs, bombs. Burn it all down, baby!"

"What about Paris?" Fuller asked.

"Have you seen the demographics of their population?" Graham responded. "Bomb ‘em."

"Montreal?" Fuller pressed.

"Make it a parking lot," Graham said resolutely.

"Tokyo?" Fuller asked, finally.

"Glass the place," Graham answered.

When asked what he expected to be the result of so much widespread bombing, Graham was indifferent. "They'll all know who's boss," he said. "Nothing will stabilize the entire world and ensure the safety of the American people like making every single country in the world hate the United States. On top of all that, some of us will also make massive amounts of money, so I'm very much in favor of this idea."

At publishing time, Graham had reportedly already made a series of phone calls to the Pentagon to inquire about how many "gigantic nukes" the U.S. currently has on hand.

Hi Ravenlocke.

The Babylon Bee is a satirical website. It speaks volumes however, that the post on Lindsey Graham is believable.

[Ewan]

https://babylonbee.com/news/lindsey-graham-calls-on-the-united-states-to-bomb-every-country-in-the-world


When asked what he expected to be the result of so much widespread bombing, Graham was indifferent. "They'll all know who's boss," he said. "Nothing will stabilize the entire world and ensure the safety of the American people like making every single country in the world hate the United States. On top of all that, some of us will also make massive amounts of money, so I'm very much in favor of this idea."

At publishing time, Graham had reportedly already made a series of phone calls to the Pentagon to inquire about how many "gigantic nukes" the U.S. currently has on hand.

That has to be a spoof? Bad satire?

[PathWalker]

I am glad this thread is quite balanced and focused on the subject. Blessing to the moderators and/or evolved community.

Few years ago there where 5 active Israeli members in the forum, and 2 Palestinians. Now only one @Libico active. Myself burnt and mostly inactive.


Few topics to consider about our region of the world:

1. One can understand/appreciate a religious war/hate, only if one is a strong religious believer. Others cannot understand or fathom.
2. Religion is a hopium for the desperate (that is why Kabbala - the Jewish mysticism was developed/invented).
3. In our region of the globe. Peace is done with the strong, The weak are annihilated or enslaved.
4. Regional morals and etiquettes are invented/subjected by the strong to rule the weak (see topic 3 above).

To understand the region interests and forces one must understand the middle east cultures and experience the regional societies.
Western logic and analysis are very misleading.

[Bill Ryan]

A summary news report (for what it's worth in a rapidly changing situation!), posted two hours ago.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82985

The text:

Palestinian-Israeli conflict: the latest news of the hour:

Northern direction:
Palestinian shelled Sderot, Yad Mordechai, Nativ Hasara, Ashkelon and several other settlements bordering the Gaza Strip. No major clashes were reported.

East and south:
Palestinian sources reported renewed clashes near Kibbutz Be'eri, but Israeli and other Arab sources did not confirm the information.

West Bank:
Clashes between Palestinians and Israeli security forces continued in the West Bank. Several such incidents took place outside the formal Palestinian Quarter, with local sources reporting clashes near the Ram On and Janir settlements.

The border with Lebanon:
About half an hour ago, a Patriot SAM was accidentally fired on Israel's northern border at Safed. According to preliminary reports, the shell fell and exploded in the village of Khiyam Marjayoun in southern Lebanon. There were no other major incidents in the border area.

Gaza Strip:
Israeli forces continued to fire into the Gaza Strip. Civilian casualties have been high due to the density of residential areas: more than 1,400 people have been killed and a further 6,000 injured.

Political background:
There were online reports that the Jordanian authorities were blocking the road into the West Bank to prevent the local population from taking part in clashes with the Israelis.
In Israel, an extended meeting was held between Benjamin Netanyahu, US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and a member of the 'emergency government', Benny Gantz. Blinken said the states supported the Israeli position and would defend allies if other countries entered the conflict.
Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian arrived in Iraq.
https://t.me/photosvideoszv/343

ZandVchannel/82985

[grapevine]

When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 one of the early stories was, they took babies out of incubators and threw them again the wall. Something like would galvanize support for them to be removed. Upon their exit they set fire to over 700 (https://todayinconservation.com/2018/01/january-22-iraq-sabotages-kuwaiti-oil-fields-1991/#:~:text=Beginning%20on%20January%2022%2C%201991,oil%20were%20released%20in%20total.) oil wells. The first casualty of war is the truth.

Strangely enough, the Palestinians were allegedly kicked out of Kuwait for supporting Saddam Hussein...

Many years ago I read that during the Falklands war the Argentinian Military had been told that the English Military ate babies, so this is obviously a basic propaganda lie they just throw out there. Having said that, I do believe the comment about the nature of the brutal murders being more in line with ISIS fighters.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1712500567015063991

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🇮🇱🇵🇸Israel has stopped supplying electricity and water to Al-Nagab prison, where Palestinian prisoners are being held - the non-governmental organization Committee for Palestinian Prisoners.

According to the committee, there are about 5,100 Palestinians in Israeli prisons, including 36 women and 170 children.

On Saturday, prison authorities isolated all Palestinian prisoners in their cells and blocked access to media and communications.

https://x.com/dana916/status/1712498122247581821

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Text:
🎼Gaza Strip, IDF aviation has worked again.

By working with the civilian population, you will create those who have lost relatives and friends.

And when those who have nothing more to lose due to attacks on civilians appear. They cultivate hatred, which will ultimately only give rise to revenge.

WAGNER GROUP®
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1712509069070614845

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https://babylonbee.com/news/lindsey-graham-calls-on-the-united-states-to-bomb-every-country-in-the-world

Lindsey Graham Calls On The United States To Bomb Every Country In The World

WASHINGTON, D.C. — As tensions escalate in the Middle East following the deadly terrorist attacks by Hamas on Israel, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham sought to resolve the conflict and restore peace to the region by calling for the United States to begin bombing every country in the world.

"It's the only solution," Graham said to reporters while advocating for even more hostilities. "If we want to restore peace throughout the world, the only realistic answer is to lay waste to every single nation around the globe."

"What about nations that have no involvement in the conflict?" asked reporter Michael Fuller.

"They're all involved," Graham answered. "Bomb ‘em all. Gone. All of ‘em. Bombs, bombs, bombs. Burn it all down, baby!"

"What about Paris?" Fuller asked.

"Have you seen the demographics of their population?" Graham responded. "Bomb ‘em."

"Montreal?" Fuller pressed.

"Make it a parking lot," Graham said resolutely.

"Tokyo?" Fuller asked, finally.

"Glass the place," Graham answered.

When asked what he expected to be the result of so much widespread bombing, Graham was indifferent. "They'll all know who's boss," he said. "Nothing will stabilize the entire world and ensure the safety of the American people like making every single country in the world hate the United States. On top of all that, some of us will also make massive amounts of money, so I'm very much in favor of this idea."

At publishing time, Graham had reportedly already made a series of phone calls to the Pentagon to inquire about how many "gigantic nukes" the U.S. currently has on hand.

Hi Ravenlocke.

The Babylon Bee is a satirical website. It speaks volumes however, that the post on Lindsey Graham is believable.


Yes about the Babylon Bee being a satirical website. Sorry I wanted the post to be separate from the other news Tweets in same post but it got lumped together and being in a hurry I didn’t catch that.

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https://babylonbee.com/news/lindsey-graham-calls-on-the-united-states-to-bomb-every-country-in-the-world


When asked what he expected to be the result of so much widespread bombing, Graham was indifferent. "They'll all know who's boss," he said. "Nothing will stabilize the entire world and ensure the safety of the American people like making every single country in the world hate the United States. On top of all that, some of us will also make massive amounts of money, so I'm very much in favor of this idea."

At publishing time, Graham had reportedly already made a series of phone calls to the Pentagon to inquire about how many "gigantic nukes" the U.S. currently has on hand.

That has to be a spoof? Bad satire?

Yes it is.

[ExomatrixTV]

The THREE BIGGEST LIES They’re Spreading Right Now!:

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It’s called: “atrocity propaganda” — false stories of horrific incidents committed by an official enemy that are intended to build support for committing atrocities against the dehumanized other. And that’s exactly what’s been happening with the recent Hamas attacks in Israel as media have spread unsubstantiated reports of widespread rape, beheaded babies and hundreds massacred at a music festival.

Jimmy, The Convo Couch’s Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger discuss all the lies we’re hearing about Hamas atrocities.

[ExomatrixTV]

YES – They Actually Created & Funded Their Enemy!:

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Considering the level of hostility between Israel and Hamas, it may come as a surprise to many to learn that the Israeli government was instrumental in creating and funding Hamas — a plan devised as a means of driving a wedge between Palestinians in a strategy of “divide and conquer.” Not only that but Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu) even told his Likud Party followers in 2019 that his plan was to continue funding Hamas.

Jimmy, The Convo Couch’s Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger discuss the level of hypocrisy coming from Netanyahu and other Israelis who claim to treat Hamas as their mortal enemy rather than a partner in promoting extremism on both sides.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/1712403464641286358

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https://x.com/narrative_hole/status/1712566901996474847

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https://x.com/Rulaelhalabi/status/1712567656531079508

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/1712486017503056189

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https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/1712521260574372083

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https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1712615522083168585

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1712365948206776755

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https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1712368292591980980

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1712434271564996620

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[Satori]

Horrific. Absolutely horrific. This insanity must be stopped and come to an immediate end.

Israel’s 9/11? Hmmm. Think about that and its implications. There’s at least two sides to every story when it comes to matters of state, especially war. The official story and alternative points of view that reasonably question the official story.

I have my doubts about many aspects of this official story, just as I do about the official story of 9/11.

Qui bono.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1712618530128932935

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[ExomatrixTV]

Soon USA & EU will pay more Billions of $ Dollars $ to another Foreign Country on top of all the mess already created in Ukraine (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1580837&viewfull=1#post1580837)!
Money that came from the Taxed Slaves! ... We all Pay for the Madness!

[shaberon]

1. One can understand/appreciate a religious war/hate, only if one is a strong religious believer. Others cannot understand or fathom.
2. Religion is a hopium for the desperate (that is why Kabbala - the Jewish mysticism was developed/invented).



What we are witnessing has nothing to do with religion. Can anyone remember the last Jewish Crusade? This is British hegemony garbed in ethnic cloaks and ongoing exploitation.

Israel has nothing to do with religion. Their legal definition of Judaism spans from atheism to Messianic, which is basically Christianity. It is a blanket term for various traditions, the more authentic of which require defiance of Zionism.

Almost everything in these traditions was compiled in the Babylonian Captivity, such as Genesis or the Messiah, which can then be understood as copies/derivatives. The fact of Cyrus the Great being the Messiah may tell us more than the accompaniment of Kabalistic documents from the same period that the Torah was developed.


Having said that, if no one else will uphold the message of Jews Against Zionism, I will. It has nothing to do with war or hopium; in fact, the tone I get is usually the opposite, a form of commiseration, since it is a lament about why we are not particularly divine and keep suffering for our sins and weaknesses. It is about the pain of separation from divinity mixed with personal responsibility. And this ought to be similar in meaning to "jihad".

Western logic and analysis is not merely misleading, it is utterly unfounded and groundless.

Europe is truly a hotbed of "religious wars"--Catholic vs. pagan heretics, Protestant vs. Catholic, with no real motive beyond convert or die. Many Islamic Caliphates are quite similar. In all other experiences, it is hard to find anything that resembles this Extreme Dogma.

Europeans would still burn you alive just because of what you think, well into the 1700s.

If a Hamas kills an Israeli civilian, it is because of the Occupation, not because they are Jewish.

As a religion or religious tradition(s), Judaism could increase its status greatly by repudiating Zionism, which is a "Christian" belief. In classical times they were greatly respected everywhere they went! Because they earned it! Especially in Gaza!

The Israelis were dispersed by Assyria and the "Lost Tribes" went to Iran and the Caucasus and have been there ever since, without suppression or pogroms, etc., because they are fairly normal and just practice religion privately and don't try to hook up with the government for favoritism such as foreign conquest. Do they have anything to do with Judea? Not really.

Hebrew-based Israeli religious traditions are effectively part of the Persian Empire, a Persian is solely responsible for there even being a Judea II, which in turn simply became part of Edom.


I only have a small amount of personal experience, but, in my view, the Jews are much easier to deal with than the Christians, because you don't have to Jesus anything. I have never sensed a hair of proselytism or subconscious projections of superiority that most Christians simply cannot stop.

This cannot be a religious war since the demands of uncontaminated Judaism as well as Islam would be the same, Zion is an illegal settler state and cannot be allowed to continue as an apartheid regime.

"Religious identity" as a part of psycho-social manipulation is an unfortunate and unnecessary complicating factor that has little to do with the more substantial parts of what may be useful in any of the "religious ideas" that are still available.



After being interrupted while trying to land in Syria (https://tass.com/world/1689677):


Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian said upon arrival to Beirut that more anti-Israeli fronts may be opened in the future.

"In the light of the continued aggression and military crimes [committed by Israel in the Gaza Strip], and the siege of Gaza, there is possibility of other fronts being opened," the minister said in a comment to the Al Mayadeen television channel.

Islamic countries "should not tolerate the crimes that are being committed by Israel," he went on, accusing the country of "depriving the civilian population of water and electricity supplies" and of "continued bombing of Gaza’s residential districts."

Abdollahian added that Iran would "continue to provide political and information support to the Palestinian resistance."

He emphasized that Iran and Saudi Arabia have a coordination mechanism "within the framework of their common strategy to support Palestine."

[Pris]

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[Isserley]

This is a statement from fearless president. My respect for him is rapidly growing:

Israel has lost my sympathy, says Croatia’s president

Zoran Milanović also pledges to lower EU and NATO flags in his office because they shouldn’t be on the same level as the Croatian one.

https://www.politico.eu/cdn-cgi/image/width=768,quality=80,onerror=redirect,format=auto/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/13/GettyImages-1246383378.jpg

Milanović hit out at Israel over their retaliatory strikes in Gaza, which have so far killed more than 1,500, according to Gaza's health ministry

Croatian President Zoran Milanović said he doesn’t sympathize with Israel because of its reprisal actions in Gaza after last weekend’s Hamas attacks, and criticized displays of the Israeli flag in his country.

In comments to media on Thursday, Milanović hit out at Israel over its retaliatory strikes in Gaza, which have so far killed more than 1,500 people according to Gaza’s health ministry, and called the Croatian foreign ministry’s decision to display the Israeli flag outside its building in solidarity with the country “an idiotic move.”

“With all my sympathy for Israel, which unfortunately they lost within 15 minutes … there is no place for other flags in Croatia, except in strictly regulated situations,” Milanović said. “I condemned [Hamas’] murders, I even expressed disgust and abhorrence, but the right to defense does not include the right to revenge and the killing of civilians,” he added.

Israel’s strikes on Gaza came in response to Hamas militants conducting a wave of attacks, breaching the country’s border, killing more than 1,200 people and taking around 150 hostages back to Gaza.

Milanović also said he would lower the EU and NATO flags in his presidential office below the Croatian one, saying they are “not the same” and so should not be hung on the same level.

Elected president in 2020, Milanović was previously prime minister of Croatia between 2011 and 2016.

Milanović has made controversial remarks in the past, from comparing the Ukrainian patriotic chant “Slava Ukraini” to a Nazi salute, to threatening to withdraw Croatian troops from NATO forces stationed in Eastern Europe.

https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-has-lost-my-sympathy-says-croatian-president/

[Pris]

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Soon USA & EU will pay more Billions of $ Dollars $ to another Foreign Country on top of all the mess already created in Ukraine (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1580837&viewfull=1#post1580837)!
Money that came for the Taxed Slaves! ... We all Pay for the Madness!




Yes, we all pay for the madness. I was in a shop today that had a radio playing in the background and heard that Trudeau is sending an initial $10 million to Israel. Just the start, eh? That's already a lot of money for Canada. As soon as I heard it, an expletive entered my mind.

[Tintin]

From Wide Awake Media on Twitter/X. This isn't the best summary from what he's saying - it's probably better to read the subtitles in full.

As with others who've made video statements from their time in the IDF it's more for the record, at this point.

Text:



Ex IDF commander: "It was done in full co-operation. It's impossible that the IDF did not know about this."

"This country betrayed us back during the Covid-19 pandemic, with these dangerous vaccinations. Now you see it more clearly. The army no longer serves us. I know it sounds hard. I know it's scary, but in my opinion, it's true."

Source: https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1712413421390438508

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[Sirus]

Hamas tells civilians to stay in their homes whilst Israel warns them to evacuate South:


https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-war-c8b4fc20e4fd2ef381d5edb7e9e8308c

(Can someone please tell me which icon is used for embedding articles and twitter messages? I'm using a mobile so I can't hover over them). Thank you.

[Sirus]

Copied from the Reddit r/ukpolitics live discussion thread, but I feel its useful for context. (Maybe it needs its own seperate thread on Avalon)?:

...Background reading for all the new armchair experts


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine


Ideally you want to start at the Ottoman empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

Then onto British Mandatory Palestine after the fall of the Ottomans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

Then we get the anti Jewish pogroms performed by the Arabs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots

In 1936 there was an Arab uprising against Britain to stop Jews settling in MP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%931939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine


The UK Pulled out due to Irgun bombing the administration in the Kind David Hotel and gave rise to the UN Resolution to split the land

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sergeants_affair

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

Israel declared independence of their part on the 14th May 1948 after the UK pulled out of Mandatory Palestine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Declaration_of_Independence

However the Palestinians would not accept this partition plan and with the help of the Arab League neighbours invaded and attempted to wipe out all the Jews to take the whole land also on the 14th May 1948

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War

Then in 1956 we get the Suez crisis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis



Then they tried again to destroy Israel in 1967

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

They failed so started a War of Attrition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Attrition

and 73 when they performed a surprise attacked on Yom Kippur

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War


After this there were several attempts at a peace process over several decades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli–Palestinian_peace_process

In 1987 you had the first Intifada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Intifada

In 1990 you had Black Monday at the Temple Mount

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Temple_Mount_killings

In 2005 you had the second intifada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada

This lead to the election win of Ariel Sharon (an Ex IDF General nicknamed the Butcher of Beirut) who implemented the complete disengagement with Gaza, the situation we have today, where all Jews were forcibly removed from the Gaza Strip by the IDF and Gaza were given full autonomy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza

Soon after the complete withdrawal, rockets were shot into Israel, and a Hamas pickup truck in the Jabaliya refugee camp exploded, killing at least 19 people (both militants and civilians) and injuring 85 people.

Then there were elections and Gaza elected Hamas (an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood) on a policy of destroying the state of Israel and “strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine” by removing all Jews from the whole land of Israel-Palestine from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

After this Hamas and Fatah (another Palestinian political party who won in the West Bank who are in the PLO umbrella, unlike Hamas) has a disagreement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah-Hamas_conflict


After all of Hamas’ continued attacks Egypt and Israel implemented a blockade of the Gaza Strip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip

you also cannot stick purely to Israel, but must also read into the Arab League neighbours and their history with the Jews and Palestinians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_insurgency_in_South_Lebanon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt–Palestine_relations

Edit: oh and of course because everyone thinks all the Jews in Israel are from Europe or USA, they actually only make up about 30%, the rest are natively from Israel-Palestine or exiles from the surrounding Arab countries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world

[Harmony]

Hi Sirius, You can find information about embedding facebook, instagram and twitter into posts in the thread linked below which can be found under Forum Technical Q&A.
Inserting Facebook, Twitter and Instagram into Posts (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108889-Inserting-Facebook-Twitter-and-Instagram-into-Posts)




Hamas tells civilians to stay in their homes whilst Israel warns them to evacuate South:


https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-war-c8b4fc20e4fd2ef381d5edb7e9e8308c

(Can someone please tell me which icon is used for embedding articles and twitter messages? I'm using a mobile so I can't hover over them). Thank you.

[grapevine]

HEATED DEBATE: Cornel West, Alan Dershowitz spar over Israel-Hamas war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svOc4Ki68_U&ab_channel=FoxNews 11.14 minutes

This is a very heated debate which speaks for itself and does Alan Dershowitz (who still has questions to answer over Epstein) no favours at all. To think that this man presides over a Court of Law brings the whole American Legal system into disrepute imo.

But this is what any peace talks would have to deal with potentially, and I cannot think of a single person who could do it. Yanis Varoufarkis maybe . . .? It would have to be someone who's not funded/influenced by any Jewish or Palestinian association. Perhaps it's too soon to be talking about peace, but why?

[Sirus]

Hi Sirius, You can find information about embedding facebook, instagram and twitter into posts in the thread linked below which can be found under Forum Technical Q&A.
Inserting Facebook, Twitter and Instagram into Posts (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108889-Inserting-Facebook-Twitter-and-Instagram-into-Posts)


Hamas tells civilians to stay in their homes whilst Israel warns them to evacuate South:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-war-c8b4fc20e4fd2ef381d5edb7e9e8308c

(Can someone please tell me which icon is used for embedding articles and twitter messages? I'm using a mobile so I can't hover over them). Thank you.
Thank you very much 😊




From Bill:
A little more. Articles just have to be copied and pasted (with full formatting if possible, though sometimes that takes a little extra work), but Tweets are embedded by (a) copying only the long numerical ID of the tweet (e.g. 1712618530128932935 in post #354 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Hamas-the-Middle-East-at-War&p=1581583&viewfull=1#post1581583)), then (b) highlighting it and clicking the little https://projectavalon.net/images/twitter.gif icon in the menu bar. You're most welcome to practice using the Sandbox Thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14962-Sandbox-thread-OK-to-practice-posting-here), which is exactly what it's for.
:thumbsup: :focus:

[ThePythonicCow]

If you aren't the least bit suspicious about any of what's happening right now and you're blindly defending either side, then you need to go back and review 9/11, as well as every other conflict since WW1 The Battle of Kadesh (c. 1274 B.C.E.). Nothing is ever what it seems on the surface, and there are always much bigger forces using both sides as chess pieces for a greater agenda.

(There is nothing special that I know of about the Battle of Kadesh, other than it was really long ago. This here response of mine is mostly just my tongue in cheek way of acknowledging Ravenlocke's excellent post.)


All. Wars. Are. Bankers. Wars.
Yes.

[grapevine]

Israeli football chief criticises Premier League over response to Hamas attacks

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/oct/13/israeli-football-chief-criticises-premier-league-over-response-to-hamas-attacks#:~:text=Premier%20League%20clubs%20are%20wary,of%20violence%20against%20innocent%20civilians .

The FA (Football Association) have often been accused of getting things wrong but last Thursday they issued the following statement:


“The Premier League is shocked and saddened by the escalating crisis in Israel and Gaza, and strongly condemns the horrific and brutal acts of violence against innocent civilians. We hope for peace, and our heartfelt sympathies are with the victims, their families and the communities impacted.”

They added that a moment’s silence would be held at its games from 21-23 October and that players, managers and match officials would wear black armbands to mark “the escalating crisis in Israel and Gaza”.

Unfortunately the Chair of the FA’s Faith in Football group, Rabbi Alex Goldberg, has resigned in protest at the FA’s stance saying he was “profoundly disappointed in the FA’s decision not to have a specific tribute during the upcoming matches against Australia and Italy at Wembley Stadium, to the victims of the worst single atrocity committed against Jewish targets since the Shoah”.

Please click on the link for the full story.

[ThePythonicCow]

Lei's Real Talk has an interesting theory on what was behind the unusually bold and well equipped attack by Hamas, from Gaza, onto Israel.

Lei speculates that Putin and Xi have set out on a plan to overload Western (mainly U.S.) military with multiple major regional wars active at once. The shortage of ammunition supplies from the West is one indicator of the West's inability to sustain multiple regional wars at a time. The lack of appetite or inability of the West to field a serious and substantial fighting force, resorting instead only to minor, stand-off, or proxy wars, is another such indicator.

Lei figures that this would involve three wars:

Russia vs the Ukraine
Hamas from Gaza vs Israel
North Korea vs South Korea


As we know, the first two of these three are now active.

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This could spell the end of the "Western" (1) Empire, whose capital has moved from Rome to England to the U.S., and a few other European capitals along the way.

Such an end would have to neuter the monetary, military, religious, cultural, and political/legal powers of the Empire, as well as achieve resource (food, mining, water, energy, ...), transportation, industrial, and technological independence.

(1) The label "Western" makes little sense on our globe; we're all east and west of everything. Perhaps that label descends from the division of the Roman Empire into an eastern half and a western half in 285 CE by the Emperor Diocletian.

[ExomatrixTV]

.



Soon USA & EU will pay more Billions of $ Dollars $ to another Foreign Country on top of all the mess already created in Ukraine (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1580837&viewfull=1#post1580837)!
Money that came from the Taxed Slaves! ... We all Pay for the Madness!





Yes, we all pay for the madness. I was in a shop today that had a radio playing in the background and heard that Trudeau is sending an initial $10 million to Israel. Just the start, eh? That's already a lot of money for Canada. As soon as I heard it, an expletive entered my mind.


I made a small correction in my text! All Nato Countries are going for BROKE on purpose all by design! (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset)

[Gwin Ru]

...


... extended/expanded laying out of the significant backdrop data points leading to Scott Ritter's point of view on the situation with Hamas and which makes some sense, too:

IS THIS THE END OF WAR IN UKRAINE? HAMAS, WHO IS BEHIND IT? W/ SCOTT RITTER AND ANDREI MARTYANOV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM5-qF91Ky4) 1:20:37

Streamed live 20 hours ago

https://yt3.ggpht.com/BAddv7idiQ6vOmro0D4ZP1rtwRfUqCbWLNczYP7iDL-54A-ESv5d2VFi3YezHf1VgPiW1F-H=s48-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj (https://www.youtube.com/@Throughtheeyesof) Through the eyes of (https://www.youtube.com/@Throughtheeyesof)

KM5-qF91Ky4

[ExomatrixTV]

Is the Gaza-Israel Fighting “A False Flag”? They Let it Happen? Their Objective Is “to Wipe Gaza Off the Map”? (https://www.globalresearch.ca/is-the-gaza-israel-fighting-a-false-flag-they-let-it-happen-their-objective-is-to-wipe-gaza-off-the-map/5835310)

[shookid]

HEATED DEBATE: Cornel West, Alan Dershowitz spar over Israel-Hamas war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svOc4Ki68_U&ab_channel=FoxNews 11.14 minutes

This is a very heated debate which speaks for itself and does Alan Dershowitz (who still has questions to answer over Epstein) no favours at all. To think that this man presides over a Court of Law brings the whole American Legal system into disrepute imo.

But this is what any peace talks would have to deal with potentially, and I cannot think of a single person who could do it. Yanis Varoufarkis maybe . . .? It would have to be someone who's not funded/influenced by any Jewish or Palestinian association. Perhaps it's too soon to be talking about peace, but why?

Alan Dershowitz is on weekly with WABC radio here in Tri-State area with John Catsimatidis. Besides pumping his book "Get Trump" he always speaks about how he is a defender of the US Constitution and that what they are doing to Trump is simply unconstitutional. He would defend Trump AGAIN if asked even though he's been vilified by his leftist losers for doing so already. He also comments that what the "Biden Regime" is doing is also unconstitutional and unethical and that if he wants to vote against Trump for a third time he should have that right as an American citizen. So in the same breath that this fool says what Biden is doing is unconstitutional, criminal and unethical, he would still vote for that same criminal. What an utter buffoon. This guy may be "smart" but in the real-world he's just as stupid as his cronies.

[ExomatrixTV]

Ex-CIA: Zelensky’s UNTHINKABLE reaction to Israel-Palestine Crisis:

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This discussion between Stephen Gardner and former CIA Larry Johnson covers the recent violence between Israel and Hamas. These two men also discuss the Ukraine Russia War update. The analyst argues the U.S. is hypocritical for supporting Israel after initially empowering Iran through past weapons sales and cash payments. He explains the complex history of U.S. and Israeli relations with Iran and groups like Hamas and Hezbollah over past decades. The analyst is highly critical of hawkish U.S. politicians advocating bombing Iran, arguing it would be an extraordinarily dangerous move that could expose the U.S. as a "paper tiger." He believes Israel likely did not have prior warning of Hamas' attacks, despite some theories Netanyahu allowed it to galvanize public support. The analyst warns Israel's threatened invasion of Gaza could parallel Nazi failures in WWII battles like Stalingrad. He argues a Gaza invasion and indiscriminate bombing of civilians could provoke massive outrage in the Muslim world. Overall, the analyst cautions that emotions run high in this conflict and nuclear escalation, while unlikely from rational actors like Putin, is more conceivable from cornered hotheads in the Israel-Arab conflict.

[ExomatrixTV]

Rand Paul Shuts Down Hawk Lindsey Graham's Call To Bomb Iran?:

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Iran Issue starts at 2:59 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzI0s4eLe8w&t=179s) in to the video above.

[ExomatrixTV]

...


... extended/expanded laying out of the significant backdrop data points leading to Scott Ritter's point of view on the situation with Hamas and which makes some sense, too:

IS THIS THE END OF WAR IN UKRAINE? HAMAS, WHO IS BEHIND IT? W/ SCOTT RITTER AND ANDREI MARTYANOV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM5-qF91Ky4) 1:20:37

Streamed live 20 hours ago

https://yt3.ggpht.com/BAddv7idiQ6vOmro0D4ZP1rtwRfUqCbWLNczYP7iDL-54A-ESv5d2VFi3YezHf1VgPiW1F-H=s48-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj (https://www.youtube.com/@Throughtheeyesof) Through the eyes of (https://www.youtube.com/@Throughtheeyesof)

KM5-qF91Ky4



:bump::bump::bump:


YES – They Actually Created & Funded Their Enemy! . Considering the level of hostility between Israel and Hamas, it may come as a surprise to many to learn that the Israeli government was instrumental in creating and funding Hamas a plan devised as a means of driving a wedge between Palestinians in a strategy of “divide and conquer.” Not only that but Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu even told his Likud Party followers in 2019 that his plan was to continue funding Hamas. . Jimmy, The Convo Couch’s Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger discuss the level of hypocrisy coming from Netanyahu and other Israelis who claim to treat Hamas as their mortal enemy rather than a partner in promoting extremism on both sides.
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[ExomatrixTV]

Here’s The ONLY WAY This Conflict Ends! – Scott Ritter:

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In surveying the situation in Israel following the Hamas attacks of last weekend, former weapons inspector Scott Ritter suggests that the conflict cannot possibly end unless and until one of the opposing parties loses a decisive military defeat and gives up. And there’s no defeat overwhelming enough to cause the Palestinians to give up, he says, so the big loser long term has to be Israel.

Jimmy, The Convo Couch’s Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger discuss Ritter’s assessment as well as his evaluation of the internal conflicts roiling the Israeli political and military establishments.

[PathWalker]

Another idea I had driving home today, with convoys of ammunition and armored vehicles on the roads.

American interest are:

1. Israel to exhaust it ammunition supplies and be completely dependent on USA supplies. As in 1973.
2. Prevent Turkey from taking back its empire.
3. Demonstrate military power as deterrence against regional escalation, regional escalation promoted by CCP in order to exhaust USA resources.
4. Secure strategic naval routes and strategic resources in the eastern meditaranian sea.
5. Standby to take over Israel in case Israel state crumbles.

[Gwin Ru]

...

... never mind what one hears... much less what one sees:

FreedomDoc1/8052

[norman]

...

... never mind what one hears... much less what one sees:

FreedomDoc1/8052

That's odd. I've seen a version of that where no one came out from under the cover and ran away. One of them must be a faked version.

oppps . . . I went back to see the version i saw on Telegram and it DOES have someone do that.


Mods might like to delete my post ?

[Bill Ryan]

From The Moon of Alabama. This is an important perspective.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/the-split-in-israel-and-the-war-of-al-aqsa.html#more
(https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/the-split-in-israel-and-the-war-of-al-aqsa.html#more)
The Split in Israel and the War of Al-Aqsa

What is the reason for the 'Al-Aqsa Deluge', as Hamas had named its terror operation against the Zionists?

On October 8 Alastair Crooke, one of most experienced Middle East hands, wrote in AlMahadeen (https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/al-aqsa-flood:-the-surprise-is-that-some-are-surprised):
"Israel" has shattered into two equally weighted factions holding to two irreconcilable visions of "Israel’s" future; two mutually opposing readings of history and of what it means to be Jewish. The fissure could not be more complete. Except it is. One faction, which holds a majority in parliament, is broadly Mizrahi -- a former underclass in Israeli society; and the other, largely well-to-do liberal Ashkenazi.
Mizrahi are mostly the original Middle Eastern Jews and often on the religious far right, Ashkenazi are mostly liberal European ones. The current Netanyahoo government is the first which includes far-right Mizrahi ministers.

Most Mizrahi follow the Sephardi religious rites. They want an religious state based on Jewish law. They are as radial as ISIS.

The high court of Israel has 14 Ashkenazi judges and one Mizrahi one. It is one of the reasons why the Netanyahoo government wants the parliament to be able to vote down high court judgements. There have been large, U.S. sponsored 'regime change' protests in Israel against that move. The leaders of the military and security services, mostly Ashkenazi, have also opposed the government move against the court.

I therefore think that it is quite possible that there was intelligence (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/egypt-claims-it-warned-israel-of-upcoming-attack.html) pointing to the Hamas attack, but that it was not revealed (https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1712413421390438508) to let Netanyahoo fall into a trap. We have however no evidence that there were reasonably precise intelligence warnings, or that they were held up.

There are already demands for Netanyahoo to go (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/12/israel-wartime-democracy-accountability-netanyahu-gaza/). If only for his long term sponsoring of Hamas (https://archive.ph/2023.10.11-021034/https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/2020-02-24/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-israel-mossad-chief-doha-qatar-continue-hamas-gaza-money-transfer/0000017f-ded8-d856-a37f-ffd88a960000#selection-449.0-452.0) as a counterweight to the more secular Fatah Palestinians. Should he no longer be prime minister the courts will take up the three bribe cases against him which are currently pending. He would likely end up in jail.

Another reason for Hamas' success was the fact that three of the four infantry battalions, with 800 soldiers each, that usually guard the Gaza strip, had been moved to the West Bank to protect right-wing Zionist settlers during a religious holiday. This allowed for Hamas' easy breach of the fence.

Back to Alastair Crooke on the real motive of the Al-Aqsa flood (https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/al-aqsa-flood:-the-surprise-is-that-some-are-surprised):
Well, the Right in Netanyahu’s government has two long-standing commitments. One is to rebuild the (Jewish) Temple on ‘Temple Mount’ (Haram al-Shariff). Just to be clear, that would entail demolishing Al-Aqsa.
The second overriding commitment is to the founding of "Israel", on the "Land of Israel". And again, to be clear, this (in their view) would entail clearing Palestinians from the West Bank. Indeed, the settlers have been cleansing Palestinians from swaths of the West Bank over the past year (notably between Ramallah and Jericho).
On Thursday morning (two days preceding Al-Aqsa Flood), more than 800 settlers stormed the Mosque Compound, under the full protection of Israeli forces. The drumbeat of such provocations is rising.
This is nothing new. The First Intifada was triggered by (then) PM Sharon making a provocative visit into the mosque. I was a part of Senator George Mitchell’s Presidential Committee investigating that incident. Even then, it was clear that Sharon intended the visit to fuel the fire of religious nationalism. At that time, the Temple Mount Movement was a minnow; today it has ministers in Cabinet and in key security positions -- and has promised its followers to build the ‘Third Temple’.
So, the threat to Al-Aqsa has been building for two decades, and today is reaching an apex. And yet US and Israeli intelligence didn’t see resistance coming, and nor did they see the settler violence building in the West Bank?
What happened on Saturday was widely expected and clearly extensively planned.
There is by the way no archaeologic evidence, none, that a Jewish 'Temple' ever existed in Jerusalem. If it did, it was most likely not on the hill of Al-Aqsa but one of the six other ones.

Al-Aqsa is holy to all Muslims, Shia and Sunni alike. Its destruction would inevitably lead to war. The West is clearly underestimating what forces calls like this one can rise:
Khalid Aljabri, MD د.خالد الجبري @JabriMD - 11:52 UTC · Oct 13, 2023 (https://twitter.com/JabriMD/status/1712798521412202676) Friday sermon from the Grand Mosque in Mecca prays for the “liberation of Al-Aqsa Mosque” in Jerusalem.
This is significant for two reasons:
• Audience of 2 billion Muslims.
• Such sermons have been significantly censored under MBS. Today's sermon was likely pre-approved.
Video (https://twitter.com/alekhbariyatv/status/1712764310726885510)
Israel has used White Phosphorus (https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/10/israel-accused-of-blatant-war-crime-as-human-rights-watch-confirms-white-phosphorus-used-in-gaza.html) on the people in Gaza, another war crime. Israel has given all people in north Gaza, 1.1 million human beings, 24 hours to move to south Gaza. That is impossible and will not happen. It is an attempt of ethnic cleansing.
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz - 10:52 UTC · Oct 13, 2023 (https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1712783395682750491) If there were two million Jewish people trapped by Christians in a giant open-air prison and placed under total siege, being told that half of them had 24 hours to relocate into the other half or be killed, nobody would have any confusion about what they were witnessing.
If Israel makes, as announced, a ground attack on Gaza, Hizbullah in Lebanon is likely to attack Israel. The U.S. has allegedly let Syria know (via France) that Damascus, and President Assad personally, would be attacked if that were to happen. This is a miscalculation. It is far from certain that Assad, or even Iran, has the means to hold Hizbullah back.

A U.S. attack on the government of Syria would bring Russia into the war. Iran would also respond which is exactly (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/wsj-joins-neocons-to-instigate-war-on-iran.html) what some of the neocons want.

The war could easily escalate further from there.

[Bill Ryan]

I think this kind of threat (sanctions!!) should be taken quite seriously.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/83111

The text:

"If the bombardment of Gaza does not stop, we will cut off the gas supply to the world," said Qatar's Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani.

ZandVchannel/83111

[SilentFeathers]

I think this kind of threat (sanctions!!) should be taken quite seriously.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/83111

The text:

"If the bombardment of Gaza does not stop, we will cut off the gas supply to the world," said Qatar's Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani.

ZandVchannel/83111

I doubt they'll cut off the oil to their really close allies and strategic partners.
Solar eclipse in the US tomorrow, could be an omen....
https://gfx-data.news-engineering.aws.wapo.pub/ai2html/ECLIPSE-2023/33GU6XHBHJGLTHDPGW2E5V6WU4/2023-eclipse-only-medium.jpg?v=4

[ExomatrixTV]

The inhabitants of Israel have been sacrificed, betrayed.


Israeli journalist Efrat Fenigson (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Efrat%20Fenigson) said this to Bret Weinstein (https://youtu.be/F_IAH7PnS_E) in the DarkHorse Podcast.

Fenigson, who served as a border guard in the Israeli army, has serious doubts about Hamas' "surprise attack" on Israel.

"The people of Israel have been—I don't know if sacrificed is too rough of a word—but we have been sold out."

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Israeli journalist, Efrat Fenigson (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Efrat%20Fenigson) (@efenigson (https://twitter.com/efenigson)), who served in Israel's intelligence forces, raises serious doubts about the government's "surprise attack" narrative.

"No military involvement, no police, no arms on the ground for hours and hours. This is something that is non-typical and unusual for Israel defence forces."

"[The fact that the border was breached in 15 places] is completely ridiculous because normally with one breach of the fence, the whole army is triggered and things start moving immediately. Things start moving immediately, and here there was nothing for hours."


The Israel Attacks: Beyond the Obvious with Efrat Fenigson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_IAH7PnS_E)



Completely Ridiculous

For many hours, both the army and the police stood aside. The journalist noted that this is unusual.

According to her, the fact that they have broken through the border in at least 15 places is completely ridiculous. Normally, one border breach brings the entire army into action, she said. This time nothing happened for hours.


Continuously Monitored:

Fenigson (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Efrat%20Fenigson) pointed out that the border fence is continuously monitored and if anything comes near it, even a cat or a pig, the army moves out immediately. On Friday, the Israeli army called on all residents of Gaza City to leave their homes. The army said it will carry out "significant" operations in the city in the coming days.


dutch (https://www.ninefornews.nl/israelische-journalist-de-inwoners-van-israel-zijn-verraden) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

[Ravenlocke]

I think this kind of threat (sanctions!!) should be taken quite seriously.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/83111

The text:

"If the bombardment of Gaza does not stop, we will cut off the gas supply to the world," said Qatar's Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani.

ZandVchannel/83111


https://x.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1712873023890481445

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https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/viral-clip-emir-qatar-threatening-cut-gas-supply-world-fake-news

Viral Clip Of Emir Of Qatar Threatening To Cut Gas Supply To World Is Fake News

Minutes ago, the large news aggregator Citizen Free Press picked up a video clip purporting to show the Emir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al Thani, threating to shut off gas supply to the world. He's purported to have said, "If the bombing of Gaza doesn't stop, we will stop gas supply of the world."

Zero Hedge has confirmed that this is fake news. The Arabic in the below clip nowhere mentions natural gas or any other energy commodity, but instead merely decries Palestinian land being taken as the main "issue" in general remarks on the Israel-Gaza crisis.
The clip is fast approaching one million views after it hit Citizen Free Press [since deleted].

On Friday as the fake statement spread, natural gas prices only briefly spiked, and then dumped, remaining relatively unaffected...

A Qatar-based English language news portal has also said the natural gas supply cut threat is fake news in the below...

* * *

An account previously exposed to have links with the UAE has posted fake news on Qatari threats to cut gas supplies to the world if Israel continues to bombard Gaza.

Disinformation experts have exposed an account “masquerading” as a Qatari news source that has spread false reports on an alleged Qatari threat to cut its gas supplies to the world if Israel continues to bomb the besieged Gaza Strip.

The ‘Qatar Affairs’ account shared a post on X, formerly known as Twitter, on Wednesday, alleging “the State of Qatar threatened to stop gas supplies to the world if the bombing of Gaza does not stop.”

The remarks raised eyebrows among Qatar watchers on social media with many calling out the suspicious account for the unverified claims.

“Qattar_affairs is an account used to try and frame Qatar in a negative light. It masquerades as a legitimate news account and the majority of its content is designed to make it look like a standard Qatar news account, but like many disinfo ops, it will occasionally include obvious disinformation,” Marc Owen Jones, an associate professor of Middle East Studies at Hamad bin Khalifa University in Qatar, told Doha News on Thursday.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Trump Truth:


There can be no coexistence with this violence. There can be no tolerating it, no accepting it, no excusing it, and no ignoring it. Every time a terrorist murders an innocent person, and falsely invokes the name of God, it should be an insult to every person of faith. Terrorists do not worship God, they worship death…


Jack Posobiec Truth:


Planned Parenthood announces the IDF has destroyed their only facility in Gaza in an airstrike

[ExomatrixTV]

Even if ISRAELI authorities are "100%" correct with their assessments & conclusions about "evil that has been done" to them, STILL it does NOT justify to punish 100,000s civilians with REAL TERROR ... And I truly wonder how many ISRAELIS do not care if they are lied to (https://youtube.com/watch?v=lX-GhMxuVi0) or not ... They just go along with the pushed narrative to justify ULTRA TERROR for 100,000s civilians coming weeks! ... In my view, most mass brainwashing media have blood on their hands!


When the masses eventually find out the whole truth, it is too late ... Harm on a massive scale is already done ... Is this mentality not very similar to what happened in 1933-1945?

When people use RAGE (mostly based upon provable lies & mass deception (https://youtube.com/watch?v=lX-GhMxuVi0)) as an excuse to support massive terror on 100,000s of civilians coming weeks! ... Meanwhile, they can not empathize with the RAGE against them when the whole truth comes out, which many already knew beforehand but is deliberately NOT reported by Lamestream Media!


When eventually the whole truth comes out (https://youtube.com/watch?v=KM5-qF91Ky4), HOW we all are being played & manipulated may even trigger WW3 ... Maybe it is part of the plan? :facepalm:

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[I am B]

tHYDbbR7tYs

One of imho THE BEST channels out there is doing very short and concise daily reports.

Check it out, amazing prepping info too.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1712931109233713246

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https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-scores-killed-israeli-air-strikes-families-fleeing-northern-gaza?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Social_Traffic&utm_content=ap_aftv2y5alq

Scores killed in Israeli air strikes on families fleeing northern Gaza

Scores of people, mainly women and children, have been killed in multiple Israeli air strikes on the main road connecting north and south Gaza, as Palestinians carried out an Israeli order to flee their homes.

According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, at least 70 people have been killed in three separate air strikes on the road, with the latest killing at least 40.

The Israeli army said in a statement on Friday that civilians must leave Gaza City in the north, and that they would not be allowed to return "until we say so" and until "a statement is issued allowing this".

However, locals have reported a number of attacks on the Salah al-Din Road since then. Survivors, speaking to local media, implored others not to make the journey for fear of being targeted by the Israelis.

"Do not leave," a distraught survivor of the attacks told local media.

"They bombed the convoy. They bombed it on Salah al-Din Road. They bombed the ambulances."

Another survivor said the attacks were a "direct targeting of women and children".

"I was in the truck. There were about 200 people. 90 percent were women and children. We took the main road that the entire world knew we were taking. My entire family were with me. Out of nowhere, they dropped a bomb. Everything was black and I lost conscience for 10 mins," they told local media.

"When I woke up I saw a mother lying with her baby, whose brain was right next to him. I heard the ambulances then they bombed again. I took cover and after a few minutes tried to check the damage, then they bombed again."

Palestinians from the north of Gaza have already been displaced in recent days by Israel's bombing campaign.

MEE’s correspondent Maha Hussaini has already left her home in the north following the orders of forced removal.

Another MEE reporter on the ground said that it currently "looks like a second Nakba" or catastrophe in Arabic, and that "many families are now leaving their homes".

The United Nations called on Israel to call off the evacuation order.

"The United Nations considers it impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences," said Stephane Dujarric, spokesperson for the UN secretary general.

“The United Nations strongly appeals for any such order, if confirmed, to be rescinded, avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into a calamitous situation.”

The World Health Organisation has said that Israel, in forcing severely ill people in Gaza, including those on life support, to move, amounts to a “death sentence”.

Hamas launched a surprise multi-front assault on Israeli communities on Saturday, firing thousands of rockets and sending fighters into Israel across land, air and sea. More than 1,300 Israelis have been killed, and over 100 people were taken captive into Gaza.

Israeli forces have responded by raining down a barrage of air strikes on the Gaza Strip this week, killing at least 1,799 people, most of them women and children.

The forced evacuation calls come as Israel amassed tanks near the boundary with Gaza ahead of an expected ground invasion of the enclave - the first such incursion in over nine years.

[Michel Leclerc]

(...)

What we are witnessing has nothing to do with religion. Can anyone remember the last Jewish Crusade? This is British hegemony garbed in ethnic cloaks and ongoing exploitation.

Israel has nothing to do with religion. Their legal definition of Judaism spans from atheism to Messianic, which is basically Christianity. It is a blanket term for various traditions, the more authentic of which require defiance of Zionism.

Almost everything in these traditions was compiled in the Babylonian Captivity, such as Genesis or the Messiah, which can then be understood as copies/derivatives. The fact of Cyrus the Great being the Messiah may tell us more than the accompaniment of Kabalistic documents from the same period that the Torah was developed.


Having said that, if no one else will uphold the message of Jews Against Zionism, I will. It has nothing to do with war or hopium; in fact, the tone I get is usually the opposite, a form of commiseration, since it is a lament about why we are not particularly divine and keep suffering for our sins and weaknesses. It is about the pain of separation from divinity mixed with personal responsibility. And this ought to be similar in meaning to "jihad".

Western logic and analysis is not merely misleading, it is utterly unfounded and groundless.

Europe is truly a hotbed of "religious wars"--Catholic vs. pagan heretics, Protestant vs. Catholic, with no real motive beyond convert or die. Many Islamic Caliphates are quite similar. In all other experiences, it is hard to find anything that resembles this Extreme Dogma.

Europeans would still burn you alive just because of what you think, well into the 1700s.

If a Hamas kills an Israeli civilian, it is because of the Occupation, not because they are Jewish.

As a religion or religious tradition(s), Judaism could increase its status greatly by repudiating Zionism, which is a "Christian" belief. In classical times they were greatly respected everywhere they went! Because they earned it! Especially in Gaza!

The Israelis were dispersed by Assyria and the "Lost Tribes" went to Iran and the Caucasus and have been there ever since, without suppression or pogroms, etc., because they are fairly normal and just practice religion privately and don't try to hook up with the government for favoritism such as foreign conquest. Do they have anything to do with Judea? Not really.

Hebrew-based Israeli religious traditions are effectively part of the Persian Empire, a Persian is solely responsible for there even being a Judea II, which in turn simply became part of Edom.


I only have a small amount of personal experience, but, in my view, the Jews are much easier to deal with than the Christians, because you don't have to Jesus anything. I have never sensed a hair of proselytism or subconscious projections of superiority that most Christians simply cannot stop.

This cannot be a religious war since the demands of uncontaminated Judaism as well as Islam would be the same, Zion is an illegal settler state and cannot be allowed to continue as an apartheid regime.

"Religious identity" as a part of psycho-social manipulation is an unfortunate and unnecessary complicating factor that has little to do with the more substantial parts of what may be useful in any of the "religious ideas" that are still available.

(...)



Thank you Shaberon. Entirely true. To those who profess real Judaism, Zionism is a religious abomination.

In the course of my adult life, I saw how the anti-Zionist Hassidim of my youth in my town of birth, Antwerp, were gradually being replaced by “Hassidim” immigrating from the US, all fiercely Zionist. (I put those "Hassidim” between quotation marks because the esoteric traditions in Judaism speak of a heavenly Zion, just like Kabbalistc Christians speak of a heavenly Jerusalem. "Hassidic Zionism" is an oxymoron.)

When I went to Israel and Palestine in 1974, I met my first (and quite unpleasant) exemplar of these ultra-Zionist “religious persons”, who were then proselytising in the orthodox quarter of Jerusalem.

In an interview given to a Dutch-language newspaper in the beginning of this century by Antwerp’s last genuinely orthodox Hassidic (and therefore anti-Zionist) rabbi of the orthodox Jewish quarter the rabbi explained how the children of his community of barely 100 souls left were being thrown pebbles at by Moroccan immigrant youngsters and spat at by the children from the “new orthodox”, Zionist families.

It is the duty of any Christian to unmask "orthodox Zionism" for what it is, especially so since the literalist and Bible-brandishing Christians are responsible for co-birthing this desecration of Judaism.

[Michel Leclerc]

(...)

Few topics to consider about our region of the world:

(...)

2. Religion is a hopium for the desperate (that is why Kabbala - the Jewish mysticism was developed/invented).

(...)



Thank you Pathwalker. Could you elaborate on this interesting statement?

The first part is a variation on a well-known statement – but, as we are all gradually becoming desperate, are you suggesting that we should take that hopium or rather not?

I hope you will pardon this light-hearted variation on your statement but what interests me especially, is what you mean by the second part. Admittedly, the Kabbalah (at least its source material) was written during the diaspora after the annihilation of the Temple during the 2nd-century uprising – but I am under the impression that you reduce the value of the Zohar texts to this “reaction out of despair” aspect.

This could of course be debated on another thread. But you can maybe already give an indication of why you expressed your thoughts that way. Thank you.

[Michel Leclerc]

Quite clarifying. With Kennedy a staunch defender of “Israel” as well, everybody knows what to expect from American civilisation.

[Michel Leclerc]

Ex IDF commander: "It was done in full co-operation. It's impossible that the IDF did not know about this."

"This country betrayed us back during the Covid-19 pandemic, with these dangerous vaccinations. Now you see it more clearly. The army no longer serves us. I know it sounds hard. I know it's scary, but in my opinion, it's true."

Source: https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1712413421390438508

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Thank you Tintin.

This young man is a hero.

[Michel Leclerc]

Even if ISRAELI authorities are "100%" correct with their assessments & conclusions about "evil that has been done" to them, STILL it does NOT justify to punish 100,000s civilians with REAL TERROR ... And I truly wonder how many ISRAELIS do not care if they are lied to (https://youtube.com/watch?v=lX-GhMxuVi0) or not ... They just go along with the pushed narrative to justify ULTRA TERROR for 100,000s civilians coming weeks! ... In my view, most mass brainwashing media have blood on their hands!



When the masses eventually find out the whole truth, it is too late ... Harm on a massive scale is already done ... Is this mentality not very similar to what happened in 1933-1945?

When people use RAGE (mostly based upon provable lies & mass deception (https://youtube.com/watch?v=lX-GhMxuVi0)) as an excuse to support massive terror on 100,000s of civilians coming weeks! ... Meanwhile, they can not empathize with the RAGE against them when the whole truth comes out, which many already knew beforehand but is deliberately NOT reported by Lamestream Media!


When eventually the whole truth comes out (https://youtube.com/watch?v=KM5-qF91Ky4), HOW we all are being played & manipulated may even trigger WW3 ... Maybe this part of the plan? :facepalm:

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

We are not only ignorant John, we are also hard-hearted.

[Sirus]

I really don't know what news reports to trust...


Hamas accidentally posted a video of a doll (yes a doll) suggesting that it was a part of casualties caused by an IDF attack.

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[Michel Leclerc]

Strange. Is the doll on the right photograph being carried to the ambulance on the left photograph?

[ExomatrixTV]

I really don't know what news reports to trust...


Hamas accidentally posted a video of a doll (yes a doll) suggesting that it was a part of casualties caused by an IDF attack.

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Makes sense if they (HAMAS) are funded by Israel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcY2Fa8Fx4I) ... the more RAGE on both sides the faster they can do so much more soon enough ... from a military perspective

[SilentFeathers]

Even if ISRAELI authorities are "100%" correct with their assessments & conclusions about "evil that has been done" to them, STILL it does NOT justify to punish 100,000s civilians with REAL TERROR ... And I truly wonder how many ISRAELIS do not care if they are lied to (https://youtube.com/watch?v=lX-GhMxuVi0) or not ... They just go along with the pushed narrative to justify ULTRA TERROR for 100,000s civilians coming weeks! ... In my view, most mass brainwashing media have blood on their hands!



When the masses eventually find out the whole truth, it is too late ... Harm on a massive scale is already done ... Is this mentality not very similar to what happened in 1933-1945?

When people use RAGE (mostly based upon provable lies & mass deception (https://youtube.com/watch?v=lX-GhMxuVi0)) as an excuse to support massive terror on 100,000s of civilians coming weeks! ... Meanwhile, they can not empathize with the RAGE against them when the whole truth comes out, which many already knew beforehand but is deliberately NOT reported by Lamestream Media!


When eventually the whole truth comes out (https://youtube.com/watch?v=KM5-qF91Ky4), HOW we all are being played & manipulated may even trigger WW3 ... Maybe this part of the plan? :facepalm:

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

We are not only ignorant John, we are also hard-hearted.

Slaughter has been happening over and over again since the dawn of humanity. The DNA of the human species is broken/corrupted in my opinion. Nature is strange, animals mostly kill for a reason, basically to survive or eat, humans often don't need a reason or kill just for the thrill of it.

This attack in Israel looks to be only done for a specific reason and response, to direct a desired outcome. The orchestraters knew exactly what Israel would do to Gaza. It looks like a maneuver to trap Israel to me, and perhaps the US too. They are already becoming trapped just by the narrative alone. Feels like the final chapter is being played out right before our very eyes. It also seems like WW3 has already begun and that everyone is just positioning themselves before pulling out their big guns and firing.

My gut is telling me that the desired outcome is way bigger than just Israel once and for all eliminating Hamas in Gaza.

99% of the protesters across the globe today don't have a clue as to what is really going on or what or who they are actually protesting for. It's beyond bizarre.

In my opinion humanity is close to being beyond the point of no return....reality has become blurred and has fractured into many delusional fragments.

[nzn]

Idk if this belongs here, but this whole news report is so "odd". In simple terms, it looks like a blood sacrifice to Saturn for the war. Check it out:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyO1dYJMpD9/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[palehorse]

"The War Is Not Meant To Be Won..." from the TBP

https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/D2Bb0ADXgAEzTp2.jpg?itok=sEelcICJ

War is a racket, always was a racket, and always will be a racket. The Deep State uses all their propaganda power, through control of the regime media, politicians on both sides of the aisle, social media conglomerates, and Wall Street to keep festering anger, discontent, outrage, and hate in order to keep the profits flowing into their coffers. The masses are manipulated into supporting the latest war through sophisticated techniques preying on their emotions and feelings, knowing they have been dumbed down by decades of government school indoctrination, disguised as education.

So here we are, with our overlords generating the newest war. Next up will be another false flag to ignite outrage against Iran. Our military industrial complex and their spokesperson Lindsay Graham, can’t wait for that one. Just because these lords of war are greedy psychopaths, doesn’t mean they are intelligent or capable of seeing what happens when they go too far. Once the missiles start flying across the Middle East, the world will be forced to take sides, and then all hell will break loose. If we allow these war pigs to initiate their agenda, Armageddon is a distinctly possible outcome.


“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation.”

“War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.”

– George Orwell, 1984


ref.: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/10/13/the-war-is-not-meant-to-be-won-3/

[Bill Ryan]

I don't think this has been posted — and in amongst intense media propaganda, including faked videos, photos and claims, I can't know for sure if this is real. But it's being widely reported on many channels. :flower:

The text: (this is very graphic, whatever has happened here)

WARNING: Here's what Israel did to the families that tried to flee Gaza AFTER Israel told them to flee. Here, you will see decapitated children and families ripped to literal shreds right in the middle of the road.

https://twitter.com/Johnpatrick500/status/1712941929766281339
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[Dennis Leahy]

Thank you for the warning, Bill. The description is enough for me. I don't need to view it.

[Bill Ryan]

An unsurprising opinion poll published by The Jerusalem Post.


https://jpost.com/israel-news/article-767880

Israelis blame gov’t for Hamas massacre, say Netanyahu must resign - poll

An overwhelming majority of 86% of respondents, including 79% of coalition supporters, said the surprise attack from Gaza is a failure of the country's leadership.

(...the article continues (https://jpost.com/israel-news/article-767880))

[Bill Ryan]

Thank you for the warning, Bill. The description is enough for me. I don't need to view it.There's nothing at all graphic in this different short video, which (if it is accurate) claims to shows the convoy just before a large number of them were killed.

https://t.me/CIG_telegram/37459

The text:
The footage of the Palestinian convoy bombed by Israel minutes before the bombing has emerged
The majority of the convoy appears to be made up of children and women
In Israel's attack, 70 Palestinians in the convoy were killed, and more than 200 Palestinians were injured

CIG_telegram/37459

[Bill Ryan]

I just want to note this here. I'm no psychic or remote viewer, but I have a strong feeling of dread, that will not go away, that something major, and very bad indeed, is going to happen — somewhere, and quite soon.

:flower: :focus:

[Lunesoleil]

In view of the sky with Venus lord of the South Node at the sextile of Mars lord of the North Node that there should be a rebound against Netanyahu and under this Solar Eclipse of October 14, there is the distance something will disappear from the scene political, especially the Sun is falling in the sign of Libra and in conjunction the South Node.
A Solar Eclipse/South Node is never a good omen for whom?

[PathWalker]

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/sjwzdy8w6

Google translate:


A few hours before Hamas launched the surprise attack, members of the Shin Bet arrived in the area of the settlements in the Gaza Strip. The Shin Bet moved special forces to the south, as part of a broad responsibility and not because there was a warning of an attack or infiltration of this magnitude. At the same time, the Gaza Division - which is responsible for the decree - did not change its preparation despite the telltale signs that arose as early as the night between Friday and Saturday.

To many lies in one message.
No one send operative forces during Saturday night as normal procedure.
I understand the the reporter need to cover for himself.

I believe there was a commander at the operative level that did what ever he could. Hope he will live to tell us his story.:silent:

[PathWalker]

Many reports and pictures of Egypt fortifying the border for Gaza and building a concrete wall on the border.
To prevent uncontrolled refugees passage.

I believe Egypt will come up the victor and hero of this war.
Egypt politicians defeat Israel every time for the last 50 years.
I believe Egypt has a secret leverage on Israel.

[PathWalker]

Reports and pictures in Israeli social media of Hamas militants obstructing refugees who want to flee the war zone.
Expect horrific false flag operation by Hamas against its own "traitor" population.

[PathWalker]

https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/2023-10-13/ty-article/0000018b-27d5-d450-a3af-6fdd67340000

Google translate:

Weeks before the massacre: observation balloons on the Gaza border went out of use, the army rejected their repair

The observation balloons are a significant tool in the warning system at the border of the Gaza Strip, but the IDF did not provide alternative means in the area and did not attribute their downing to Hamas. The army was unable to repair the balloons last week, and decided to postpone the treatment until this week

[Sirus]

Yossi Landau was part of a volunteer team to recover the victims in Kibbutz Be'eri. The scenes he witnessed were unspeakable.

“The 20 children we saw in Kibbutz Be’eri was beyond terrible. [The terrorists] had bound their hands behind them. Abused them terribly. And simply put them one on top of the other and burned them. How can you do such a thing?”

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[Bruce G Charlton]

I just want to note this here. I'm no psychic or remote viewer, but I have a strong feeling of dread, that will not go away, that something major, and very bad indeed, is going to happen — somewhere, and quite soon.

:flower: :focus:

This is something I take seriously; knowing that you are very well-informed, and (yet, surprisingly to me!) usually optimistic.

My own such feelings are not reliable. I did feel what turned-out to be the early 2020 covid-coup coming, from a couple of months early (https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2019/11/apocalypse-now.html) - but I have also had some false alarms, leading to total blanks.

I think there is inhumane ruthlessness at high levels among Western globalists, combined with a sadistic kind of recklessness; so that much which would have been impossible until quite recently, is now (probably) normalized in strategic discussion and planning.

[Sirus]

I just want to note this here. I'm no psychic or remote viewer, but I have a strong feeling of dread, that will not go away, that something major, and very bad indeed, is going to happen — somewhere, and quite soon.

:flower: :focus:

It does feel that way. It's as if the world has bottled up very powerful, angry emotions and this was the catalyst to light the tinder box.

[SilentFeathers]

I just want to note this here. I'm no psychic or remote viewer, but I have a strong feeling of dread, that will not go away, that something major, and very bad indeed, is going to happen — somewhere, and quite soon.

:flower: :focus:

I am also not a psychic etc., but do have strong intuition and am rather an experienced deep researcher of almost 50 years on several topics, history and war being just a couple of those topics. I also sense a huge event about to happen, actually a huge series of events, one within the US borders way bigger than 911.

We've been lied to and gaslighted so often, especially the last decade, that it is easy to jump to conclusions and to always think the worse. This attack in Israel has all the red flags that thinking the worse and that something sinister is going on is highly likely a correct way of thinking.

Just a few thoughts:

BiBi Netanyahu was either double-crossed or Complicit in this attack. There's no way the IDF had their eye off the Gaza border to allow so many fighters through, let alone take several hours to arrive and respond in large numbers with force. They were either told to stand down or were all ordered out of the area ahead of time. I'm not being a conspiracy theorist; I'm just using common sense.

There was immediately a huge policy shift within the Biden administration relating to Israel. It does not at all feel authentic in my opinion. The majority of the democratic party hate Israel and American, that has been obvious for some time now.

It's no secret that large factions in the west want Iran taken down, the rhetoric from this Israeli attack immediately focused on war with Iran.

The dollar in is free fall and now with war breaking out and the military industrial complex back in business in a huge way, the dollar now is somewhat more stable for the time being.

The Abraham Accords now is almost completely destroyed. This would have really helped Israel, especially with Saudi's being a huge "friend" to Israel. This fracture between Saudi's and Israel tends to make me think that BiBi was likely double crossed and wasn't directly involved in allowing the attack to happen.

I still haven't completely wrapped my mind around all that happened in Israel with Covid and Vaccines. They obviously were ground zero for the vaccine testing grounds in my opinion. Somehow, I think this is deeply related to what we are now seeing going on with Israel and war.

The US elections are coming up in 12 months, a huge event within the US would almost certainly delay or stop the election or create scenario's that would almost guarantee the democrats to remain in power. Biden is the weakest looking President in history, this was no accident putting him in charge so to speak. I'm curious who his replacement will be. If he is re-elected so to speak and Kamala somehow replaces him, it'll just be another controllable idiot as president....same thing basically as we have now.

To be continued....

[Rizotto]

I usually ignore 'Canadian Prepper' for a number of reasons. BUT! Highly recommend this one interview with an Israeli (Rafi) who has specialized knowledge on Jewish prophecies, and market predictions & upcoming crash. He opposed the harmful covid lockdowns. He too is strongly convinced that the October 7 Hamas attack was a false flag set up by extremists in the Isreal government, or is it the deep state.
I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, but it's fascinating and informative.

MAJOR RED FLAGS: SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT HERE...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQMOp14PLi8

[Dorjezigzag]

My take on the the nature of the unfolding narrative


The Israeli Festival Horror Story

Penning this article isn’t easy because it dives into real-life events using film and cultural theory. Before we get started, it’s essential to emphasize my deep sympathy for the victims of the tragedy. I don’t personally view them as sinful or deserving of harm. Instead, we’re going to explore how this narrative might be manipulated for propaganda and social conditioning.

Israeli intelligence has a reputation as one of the world’s most formidable, a necessity due to the multitude of adversaries faced by the Jewish state. Consequently, there is a prevailing belief among many that given their exceptional intelligence capabilities, it seems implausible that they were completely unaware of an impending attack of this scale and magnitude.

This raises the critical question of why an event of this nature would be permitted to take place and what potential advantages it could offer to the authorities. While there is no doubt that this was an authentic attack orchestrated by Hamas, speculation arises as to whether it might have been allowed to occur to garner support for an escalation in hostilities against the Palestinian state and, subsequently, against certain neighbouring nations viewed as hostile by Israel.

With this in mind, it becomes interesting to scrutinize the very essence of the narrative that has unfurled in connection to these attacks. Regardless of the extent of control or orchestration inherent in this narrative, it can be likened to the conventions found in cinema, where the interplay between the joyful and the brutal, between abandon and morality, is masterfully wielded to captivate our attention and intensify the emotional impact and trauma.

One of the narratives that has received the most coverage is the attack on the outdoor SuperNova festival, with harrowing images of barefooted young adults being chased down and brutally massacred by rabid fanatical Hamas terrorists. Many compared it to a teen slasher Horror movie. With horrific accounts of slaughter rape and dismemberment.


In dissecting the slasher horror genre, we uncover a recurring theme: a hidden puritanical message lurking beneath the surface. In these films, it’s often the characters who engage in behaviours considered “sinful” by society—like substance use, rebellion, premarital sex, or reckless revelry—who find themselves squarely in the crosshairs of relentless killers.

The underlying lesson these movies try to teach us is clear: stepping away from the well-trodden path of societal norms can lead to a grim fate, potentially ending in punishment or, quite literally, death. It’s a stark reinforcement of traditional conservative values, emphasizing the importance of sexual restraint and unwavering conformity.

This theme is notably evident in iconic horror classics like Halloween, Friday the 13th, and the cleverly self-aware cabin in the woods or Scream franchise, which adds a modern twist to the genre’s age-old dynamics. These movies not only scare us but also provide an intriguing commentary on societal norms and the consequences of deviating from them.


Israel like many nations is a divided nation with some having greater empathy for the plight of Palestinians than others. The attendees of the festival with its billing as a celebration of peace and love are likely to have greater sympathy for the Palestinians with a desire to share with them greater freedoms. They are very much representative of subculture within Israel especially amongst its youth.

If the goal is to make more Israelis adopt a tougher stance on the Palestinian situation, this story can be quite effective. It targets those in society who don’t share the government’s preferred values and beliefs. Within the brutal realm of slasher films, the survivors, usually epitomized by the conventionally “pure” “final girl,” emerge from the bloody wreckage to bear the burden of rebuilding and upholding traditional values. A conclusion that involves a return to order and the re-establishment of societal norms.

It’s a journey of the loss of innocence and naivety. The contrast between the carefree celebration and the subsequent violence highlights the idea that overindulgence may bring harm to individuals . The violence representing a harsh awakening to the moral realities of the world.

This short clip from 'The Cabin in the Woods' with its description of ritual and sacrifice illustrates my point.

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https://www.bee3.org/?page_id=1590

[ExomatrixTV]

I just want to note this here. I'm no psychic or remote viewer, but I have a strong feeling of dread, that will not go away, that something major, and very bad indeed, is going to happen — somewhere, and quite soon.

:flower: :focus:

I hear you, Bill, and I sense the same.



Most of you already know, but for all newcomers on Project Avalon Forum:

When it is done by people who are genuine in rage or done by people posing as such, does ultimately not matter ... the effects of it are the same ... as people like David Ike (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118505-David-Icke-at-70-The-Vindication) explained this (totalitarian) mechanism, ad nauseam last 30+ years.

There will always be huge consequences in how we all are "governed (https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1Gb0000000LHN2EAO)", like: more control from unelected "stakeholders (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum)", more abuse of power, more censorship (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80790-Internet-Censorship-So-it-began...), more freedoms taken away, more exploitation of the weak, more sophisticated enslavement processes in the middle class, more police-state measures, more (A.I. run (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-)) mass surveillance being legalized, more suppression of free speech (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80790-Internet-Censorship-So-it-began...), more dystopian technocracy (https://technocracy.news), more normalizing insanity, more draconian banking measures (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120026-Biggest-Threat-To-Financial-Freedom-is-CBDC) etc. etc.


All of it combined can NOT be done if there are NO (real and/or manufactured) crisis ... So they make sure there are plenty (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115447-Climate-Lockdowns-are-Coming--Agenda2030--Predicted-by-Conspiracy-Researchers-)!

Crisis of any kind are often used as a PERFECT excuse to bypass laws & violate basic human rights, like the Nuremberg Code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Code) ... Criminals who can bypass laws do not feel & think like most people do, that is why so many do not see it for what it really is ... And why it is so easy for them to succeed and get away with it (...) All made possible with big help from the mass brainwashing (mainstream) media who are 100% complicit and have, in my view, blood on their hands.

Meanwhile, anyone who can expose all the above with real evidence are labeled: "extremist" or "dangerous for society" the IRONY & HYPOCRISY of that is harrowing obvious .... When genuine authentic whistleblowers are systematically dehumanized/demonized by criminals and "good people (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120761-The-nature-of-evil-in-the-modern-world&p=1548367&viewfull=1#post1548367)" falsely assume what certain "authorities" claims are perceived as "correct", you are starting to see the bigger picture very fast how it is all done and made possible on a larger scale (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119992-The-Psychology-of-Totalitarianism).

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

Trump MOCKS Media After They LIE About His Statements On Israel:

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[grapevine]

Live Webcams From Gaza | Conflict Zone ⚠ | Palestine Israel Gaza Strip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L67KCD3inM0
Started streaming on 10 Oct 2023
Watch live webcam views from Gaza & Israel.

[Vicus]

Fascism in the West to Enable Genocide in Palestine
Craig Murray
craigmurray.co.uk
Fri, 13 Oct 2023

https://www.sott.net/image/s34/689787/large/fascist_picture_2.jpg

The UK and the US are both sending military assistance to Israel to commit a calculated and deliberate act of genocide, which is already underway.

Over 500 children have been killed in Gaza in the last week and over 2,000 maimed, many with life changing injuries. Nobody can claim they do not know what is already happening or what is about to unfold. The cutting off of food and water to Gaza is a major international crime, which the western proponents of the "rules based order" universally refuse to condemn.

In both the UK and the US there can be no more stark illustration of the lack of any kind of meaningful democracy, than the fact that there is no major political party that opposes the genocide - despite massive public opposition.

The bought and paid for media and political class in the west are extremely nervous, throughout the western world. Now they have come to the final genocide for which zionism has always aimed, they face a good deal of popular resistance.

Throughout Europe there is a massive gap between the zionist unanimity of the politicians and the much greater understanding of the Palestinian situation among the general public. Tellingly the response by the zionist political class has been a wave of outright fascist suppression.

In France, Macron has made all pro-Palestinian demonstrations illegal, but as so often the French people are not standing for that kind of authoritarianism.

In the UK, the police have adopted the cowardly tactic of arresting a couple of individuals, one in Brighton and one in Manchester, for pro-Palestinian demonstration. Under Tony Blair's notorious draconian "anti-terror" legislation, they could face up to 14 years in prison.

The young man in Manchester was arrested on the precise site of the famous "Peterloo massacre", which generations of British people were taught at school was a terrible crime in breach of the rights to freedom of speech and assembly. Let the irony of that set in.

You can go out in the streets of the UK with an Israeli flag and yell that you want every Palestinian to be cleansed from Gaza. That is not illegal. If you say the Palestinians have a right to resist their genocide, that is illegal.

That appears to be a genuine analysis of the law in the UK, France and many other western countries.

That is intended to terrify all of us. It will not work.

The European Commission has been ferociously zionist and gung-ho for this Palestinian genocide. It displayed the Israeli flag on its Berlaymont headquarters. It has taken a side in the most ferocious way.

https://www.sott.net/image/s34/689788/large/fascistflag.jpg
Israel's flag is displayed at the Berlaymont building, the headquarters of the European Commission, in Brussels on Oct. 8.

It is therefore deeply sinister that the European Commission is actively working to shut down pro-Palestinian information and comment on social media. The European Commission has written to all major social media organisations and is able to threaten them with massive fines if they do not remove information of which the European Union disapproves.

Following the terrorist attacks by Hamas against 🇮🇱, we have indications of X/Twitter being used to disseminate illegal content & disinformation in the EU.

Urgent letter to @elonmusk on #DSA obligations ⤵️ pic.twitter.com/avMm1LHq54
— Thierry Breton (@ThierryBreton) October 10, 2023

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/10/fascism-in-the-west-to-enable-genocide-in-palestine/

[Arcturian108]

In response to Bill's fears about the escalation of this event in Israel, I am psychic, and have started to recover from this whole thing. It is so important for those of us who are aware of the deep state, and it's plans, to take our collective attention away from these scenarios, as the deep state wants us to keep focusing on the worst outcome to make it happen. Our emotional attention serves their purposes. Finding their weaknesses, and laughing in their collective face does not.

Several people have noticed that there appears to be a pause in Israel entering Gaza, with one commentator saying it might be because Israel and its backer, the U.S., are low in their ammunition stocks, due to the war in Ukraine. I find that thought comforting. Any pause is a good thing to help people regain their sanity. By the way, although I can't stand the New York Times, I often read their articles via other sources, and this one today by Thomas Friedman, a top columnist at the Times, gives another perspective on everything that occurred last week: https://dnyuz.com/2023/10/14/why-israel-is-acting-this-way/

On a personal note, I did know for the past six months that violence was soon to occur in Israel, because a year ago I had made plans to hold a small conference there, related to my angelic healing work, but the Seraph that I partner with, after initially agreeing to that event, told me to move the venue to Thailand instead. I thereby knew that Israel was in trouble.

[SilentFeathers]

I may be way off with is but throughout history events like this have been "omens" and or signs of impending disasters or of great change. I feel today is no different.
I've mentioned several times in this thread that I sense something terrible is going to happen soon within the US, this only makes me believe this even more (hopefully I am wrong).

LIVE: Annular Solar Eclipse (Great American Eclipse) - October 14, 2023
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[Bill Ryan]

I felt I should post this, because it seems to be real. :flower:

https://t.me/llordofwar/216571

The text:
Hospitals in the Gaza Strip are full with dead and wounded children and adults.
Even journalists cannot bear the horror. Here, in particular, a BBC reporter falls to his knees and cries while reporting in a Gaza hospital. He says he has "seen things he will never be able to bear."

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[Tintin]

Source: https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/1948-04-16_Albert_Einstein_letter_to_American_Friends_of_the_Fighters_for_the_Freedom_of_Israel.jpg

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/1948-04-16_Albert_Einstein_letter_to_American_Friends_of_the_Fighters_for_the_Freedom_of_Israel.jpg

[ExomatrixTV]

Tucker Carlson RIPS War Hawks Amid Israel-Gaza War: Rising

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Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave react to Tucker Carlson's criticism of several Republicans who called on Israel to take action against Hamas. Originally aired October 10, 2023
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Israel Vs Hamas Day 7 Pro Palestine Protest In Paris LIVE:

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[SilentFeathers]

I felt I should post this, because it seems to be real. :flower:

https://t.me/llordofwar/216571

The text:
Hospitals in the Gaza Strip are full with dead and wounded children and adults.
Even journalists cannot bear the horror. Here, in particular, a BBC reporter falls to his knees and cries while reporting in a Gaza hospital. He says he has "seen things he will never be able to bear."

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It's hard to imagine this not being real. They are bombing the hell out of Gaza.
What happened in Israel last Saturday is horrible and sickening, what has been happening in Gaza is horrible and sickening. Regardless the reasoning, two wrongs do not make a right. Sadly things are already in motion and appear won't stop for some time and will most likely just escalate to other regions and nations as well.

Here's a quote that I've always found fascinating relating to events like this:


…man differs from the animal by the fact that he is a killer; he the only primate that kills and tortures members of his own species without any reason, either biological or economic, and who feels satisfaction in doing so. It is this biologically non-adaptive and non-phylogenetically programmed "malignant" aggression that constitutes the real problem and the danger to man’s existence as a species...The most ample – and horrifying – documentation for seemingly spontaneous forms of destructiveness are on the record of civilized history. The history of war is a report of ruthless and indiscriminate killing and torture, whose victims were men, women, and children. Many of these occurrences give the impression of orgies of destruction, in which neither conventional nor genuinely moral factors had any inhibitory effect…There is hardly a destructive act human imagination could think of that has not been acted out again and again - Erich Fromm (Anatomy of Human Destructiveness)

[ExomatrixTV]

How Israel’s Iron Dome Works:

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Israel’s Iron Dome missile-defense system is designed to intercept and destroy short-range rockets and mortars. It’s blocked thousands of missiles since 2011, including those launched by Hamas during this past weekend’s attack. The Palestinian militant group launched an estimated 3,500 rockets from Gaza.

WSJ explains how Israel’s Iron Dome works and has a 90% success rate.

0:00 "Iron Dome"
0:46 How it works
1:31 The defense system’s success

[Tintin]

Wikipedia says:

"In 2017, Ted Becker, former Walter Meyer Professor of Law at New York University and Brian Polkinghorn, distinguished professor of Conflict Analysis and Dispute Resolution at Salisbury University, argued that Yinon's plan was adopted and refined in a 1996 policy document entitled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, written by a research group at the Israeli-affiliated Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies in Washington. The group was directed by Richard Perle, who, some years later, became one of the key figures in the formulation of the Iraq War strategy adopted during the administration of George W. Bush in 2003.

Both Becker and Polkinhorn admit that avowed enemies of Israel in the Middle East take the sequence of events—Israel's occupation of the West Bank, the Golan Heights, its encirclement of Gaza, the invasion of Lebanon, its bombing of Iraq, airstrikes in Syria and its attempts at containing Iran's nuclear capacities—when read in the light of the Yinon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan) Plan and the Clean break analysis, to be proof that Israel is engaged in a modern version of The Great Game, with the backing of Zionist currents in the American neoconservative and Christian fundamentalist movements. They also conclude that Likud Party appears to have implemented both plans."

With thanks to Truthstream Media from 2014:

Short segment on the New Middle East aired August 2014:

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/2014_TruthStreamMedia_report_on_the_New_Middle_East_%28segment%29.mp4

The Mainstream Media's Blind Spot in Gaza
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Description from Aaron and Melissa:


Someone recently asked me, "If my neighbor next door shoots my neighbor across the street, does that give my neighbor across the street the right to come shoot me?"

If someone's corrupt government does something horrible, are all of its citizens, right down to the infants, to be held responsible? Votes seem to matter very little in the modern world. How would you feel if another country invaded and tried to kill you and everyone you know — all because of what your horrible government does?

You aren't in charge of those rockets. You aren't in charge of those decisions.

Back when Occupy protesters rallied, they chanted, "The whole world is watching. The whole world is watching."

When Palestinians rally, they chant "Where is the world?"

This question is seemingly rhetorical.

The mainstream media knows the answer.

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The Zionist Plan for The Middle East: https://avalonlibrary.net/The_Zionist_Plan_for_the_Middle_East_%28published_1982%29/The_Zionist_Plan_for_the_Middle_East_%28from_Oded_Yinon%27s_A_Strategy_for_Israel_in_the_Nineteen_Ei ghties_1982%29.pdf

https://avalonlibrary.net/The_Zionist_Plan_for_the_Middle_East_%28published_1982%29/The_Zionist_Plan_for_the_Middle_East_%28from_Oded_Yinon%27s_A_Strategy_for_Israel_in_the_Nineteen_Ei ghties_1982%29.pdf

[arwen]

Israel Delays All-Out Assault On Gaza Amid Growing International Pressure, As Civilians Flee To South (https://davidicke.com/2023/10/14/israel-delays-all-out-assault-on-gaza-amid-growing-international-pressure-as-civilians-flee-to-south/)

https://davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/israel-.jpg


International pressure, including from the United States, for Israel to allow more time for Palestinian civilian evacuations of the northern half of Gaza Strip has grown. There appears to be some level of delay at this moment on the part of Israel’s military. Currently, there’s widespread expectation that Al Awda Hospital is about to be bombed, but Israel has extended an earlier 2-hour evacuation warning and deadline, it appears:

The humanitarion organization had previously said they were given only two hours two evacuate. They now say the order has been extended to 6am local (03 GMT). “The evacuation of patients remains complicated,” the organisation said on X

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Kryztian]

14 Oct, 2023 16:18
UN warns of mass ethnic cleansing as refugee shelters overflow
Israeli public officials have openly called for a repeat of historic events that displaced a million Palestinians
https://www.rt.com/news/584918-gaza-evacuation-israel-ethnic-cleansing/

Palestinians in Gaza face mass ethnic cleansing as Israel orders half the population of the densely populated strip to evacuate amid continued aerial bombardment and dwindling resources on the ground, UN human rights experts warned on Saturday.

“In the name of self-defense, Israel is seeking to justify what would amount to ethnic cleansing,” UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese said, noting that “Israel has already carried out mass ethnic cleansing of Palestinians under the fog of war.”

“There is a grave danger that what we are witnessing may be a repeat of the 1948 Nakba, and the 1967 Naksa, yet on a larger scale,” she warned, referring to Israel’s mass expulsions of at least 1 million Palestinians from their homes and land in 1947-48 and 1967. “The international community must do everything to stop this from happening again.”

The UN’s agency for Palestinian refugees warned on Saturday that its shelters in Gaza “are not safe anymore,” adding that the area’s 2.3 million residents were rapidly running out of water. Israel shut off electricity to Gaza following Hamas’ attack last Saturday, compounding the humanitarian crisis in the territory, which has been under an illegal blockade since 2007.

The UN on Friday warned that Israel’s evacuation order targeting the 1.1 million Palestinians living in northern Gaza would create a “humanitarian catastrophe” amount to a certain “death sentence” for the sick and hospitalized, given the hospital system is already barely operational and several have been bombed.

“Moving more than one million people across a densely populated warzone to a place with no food, water, or accommodation, when the entire territory is under siege, is extremely dangerous – and in some cases, simply not possible,” UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres told reporters on Friday ahead of a meeting with the Security Council.

Urging the government to rescind the order, UN Special Rapporteur on the Human Rights of Internally Displaced Persons Paula Gaviria Betancur explained that “forcible population transfers constitute a crime against humanity, and collective punishment is prohibited under international humanitarian law.”

On Thursday, Israel ordered the population of northern Gaza to move to the south within 24 hours, after which it launched a ground invasion of the north to “clear” it. The entire territory remains blockaded, with the exit via Egypt closed since Tuesday due to ongoing Israeli airstrikes.

Following Hamas' attack on Israel last weekend, which left some 1,200 Israelis dead, Israel has targeted Gaza with the most intense bombing campaign in its history, killing upwards of 1,900 Palestinians and injuring over 7,600 more, according to the UN. Over 423,000 people have been displaced in the last week.

[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you for the warning, Bill. The description is enough for me. I don't need to view it.

Thank you Dennis. We should be very careful with images. We should have the words ready (many words) in order to control the hurricanes images of cruelty unleash in our souls. We either allow images to do that, undergoing them as if we were undergoing the reality they allow to shine through – or we interpret images with words.

Words can save us from those hurricanes. That is what ultimately justifies words. And the "world" wherein this adequacy of language can live is called poetry. (Let us, when we understand English-language poetry, re-read Wilfred Owen, Isaac Rosenberg.)

Sex, the Left-hand Tantra masters tell us, can be used for reproduction (multiplying flesh) or pleasure (orgasmic life) – but it can also, and most adequately, be used for the adoration of the gods.

Language can be the absorber and transmuter of violence when it is used to adore Life itself.

What we do here, is exercising ourselves in using language in this way.

When the horror is upon us (and it will be) we need to be as ready as possible to weep and help, to help and weep.

[Ewan]

From Cynthia Chung's Substack. Chapter 10 of, The Empire On Which The Black Sun Never Set, in its entirety here (https://cynthiachung.substack.com/cp/137889792).

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[Bill Ryan]

Light relief — for a moment. :)

The Onion dared to post this:


https://theonion.com/the-onion-stands-with-israel-because-it-seems-like-yo-1850922505

‘The Onion’ Stands With Israel Because It Seems Like You Get In Less Trouble For That


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[Eric J (Viking)]

I just want to note this here. I'm no psychic or remote viewer, but I have a strong feeling of dread, that will not go away, that something major, and very bad indeed, is going to happen — somewhere, and quite soon.

:flower: :focus:

Me too…. I pray not.

Viking

[Eva2]

I thought that Rabbi Richman's comment just after the 5:00 minute mark was interesting - seems to support Rabbi Finklestein's views on the goyim as well. I think this is a minority pov in that community, as are the extreme ideologies in the Christian and Muslim communities.

'More Israeli Voices Speak Out - Hamas Attack Inside Job. It is hard to fathom that for some reason someone no doubt deep state actors have an agenda to inflame the entire Middle East. But sad to say many innocent lives are lost as a result of this concocted attack. Will the truth ever be told?'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BzTFSN31fs?si=xsS_BNnr32tqrdiO

[norman]

South Africa’s President Cyril Ramaphosa says he stands with the people of Palestine

https://t.me/insiderpaper/22829
insiderpaper/22829




Putin says Israel risked waging an “unacceptable” siege in Gaza comparable to the Nazi blockade of Leningrad during World War II
https://t.me/insiderpaper/22793
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Times Square, New York City full of Palestinian flags and Palestine supporters, law enforcement on alert
https://t.me/dailyrealtimenews/23874
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Massive pro-Palestine protest in London
https://t.me/insiderpaper/22831
insiderpaper/22831

[Michel Leclerc]

My take on the the nature of the unfolding narrative


The Israeli Festival Horror Story

Penning this article isn’t easy

(...)

The underlying lesson these movies try to teach us is clear: stepping away from the well-trodden path of societal norms can lead to a grim fate, potentially ending in punishment or, quite literally, death. It’s a stark reinforcement of traditional conservative values, emphasizing the importance of sexual restraint and unwavering conformity.

(...)

https://www.bee3.org/?page_id=1590

I do not agree. You are at least incomplete, if not essentially wrong.

The "lesson" such films teach us are only a thin veneer of virtue and appropriateness over something else: they do NOT want to teach the viewer anything : instead they present to the viewer a unique opportunity to slash, murder, kill, eat human flesh vicariously without being killed on an electric chair for having watched snuff porn. That is their real purpose.

The linking back to virtue at the and is a flourish hinting at the fact that it is normal to have such vicarious wishes – or in other words: the persons massacred and the persons massacring are the same: you, viewer, and I, film maker.

The works of the Marquis the Sade – which have always been condemned with horror — for instance by somebody like Napoleon, who inflicted “sadistic" horror on his own soldiers and their adversaries – teach us that, any vicarious pleasure being sabotaged by their style displaying an almost Brechtian “unjuiciness”, such horrors (quite real at least at the epoch of the Terreur phase of the French Revolution) are the result of the rejection of any metaphysical dimension or belief..

Instead of “teaching” us morality, the horrors of this conflict (or of any conflict) invite us to unleash our murderish rage here and now.

War has come. Finally we can be cannibals.








From Bill:
Just a helpful note, in case anyone assumes Dorjezigzag wrote this himself. It was all quoted from this article:
https://www.bee3.org/?page_id=1590
:thumbsup:

[Michel Leclerc]

Fascism in the West to Enable Genocide in Palestine
Craig Murray
craigmurray.co.uk
Fri, 13 Oct 2023

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https://www.sott.net/image/s34/689788/large/fascistflag.jpg
Israel's flag is displayed at the Berlaymont building, the headquarters of the European Commission, in Brussels on Oct. 8.

(...)

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/10/fascism-in-the-west-to-enable-genocide-in-palestine/

As with 9/11.

How many times a week have I driven past this building in my life.

It would be suicidal to go back.

It may become suicidal to stay here.

(The two "suicidal”s have different meanings.)

[ExomatrixTV]

How many died in IRAQ & Afghanistan after 9/11?
How many will die after a "9/11 type event" in ISRAEL?
... and who paid for both scenarios? ... How did we all allow this, them using our Tax money we worked for?


John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳 October 14th 2023

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[Lunesoleil]

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Use the English translator, you won't regret it, short 15 minute video, it's really good to hear that. Say out loud what many people think quietly.
Macron is lashing out following his speech on television in support of Israel, but says nothing about the population in Palestine.

[Ravenlocke]

From Doctors Without Borders (Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is an international, independent, medical humanitarian organisation.)

https://x.com/MSF/status/1713282507695673392

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https://x.com/MSF/status/1713248399279997013

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https://www.msf.org/msf-calls-israeli-authorities-show-humanity

MSF calls on the Israeli authorities to show humanity

Gaza - As the ultimatum given to the population expires, MSF calls on the Israeli authorities to show humanity.

Despite Israeli announcements suggesting that there are safe areas for the population trapped in the Gaza Strip, they are in fact exposed to bombardment throughout all the territory, including in the south, where tens of thousands of people have fled following the ultimatum.

As the Israeli army has been bombarding the Gaza Strip without restraint for a week, we are calling for the most elementary humanity to be shown.

The injunction to nearly 1.1 million people to move in a few hours to an already overpopulated territory with precarious access to food, water and healthcare is as absurd as it is intolerable. Our teams are witnessing the fact that drinking water is becoming scarce in the south of the Gaza Strip and the difficulty of obtaining it is adding to the distress of the population. MSF urgently calls for the restoration of sufficient and immediate access to drinking water for the population of the Gaza Strip.

A humanitarian corridor of a few hours decreed today by the Israeli authorities in the north of Gaza has just expired. We are extremely worried about the fate of those who will not be able to move, such as the wounded, the sick and the medical staff, who we fear will be wiped out in view of the statements made by the Israeli military authorities.

MSF is calling for safe zones to remain in the north and for regular ceasefires.

We are also calling for the possibility to flee through the Rafah crossing for those who wish to do so, without prejudice to the right to return. Médecins Sans Frontières has asked for its Palestinian staff who wish to leave to be evacuated.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1713204190145650945

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https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-aqsa-imam-far-right-telegram-hit-list
(https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-aqsa-imam-far-right-telegram-hit-list)
Israel-Palestine war: Al-Aqsa Imam among Palestinians on far-right Telegram hit list

Sheikh Ekrima Sabri, the imam of Jerusalem’s Al-Aqsa Mosque, is among dozens of Palestinians whose names and locations have been posted in a far-right Israeli Telegram channel calling for them to be killed, Middle East Eye has discovered.

The channel, called Nazi Hunters 2023, describes those targeted – often accompanied by photos with crosshairs over their faces - as “Nazis who are walking around freely and have not yet been eliminated”.

Khaled Zabarqa, head of Sabri's legal team, told MEE that Sabri was aware of the threat against him, which he said was being incited by "extremist Jewish factions, supported by elements within the Israeli government".

Sabri had contacted the Kingdom of Jordan, the custodian of the holy sites in Jerusalem, and Arab consulates in Jerusalem to update them about the severity of the situation, Zabarqa said.

"This incitement is both transparent and dangerous. For nearly a year Sheikh Ekrima has faced continuous provocation, with these Jewish extremist groups directly inciting his assassination," he said.

Others identified in the Telegram channel include religious leaders, political figures, journalists, public officials, and student activists, as well as alleged members of Hamas and Palestinian fighters.

MEE is not identifying those named with the exception of Sabri because of concerns for their safety.

The Hebrew language channel was set up on Monday as the conflict between Israel and Hamas in Gaza escalated, following the deadly attack by Palestinian fighters in southern Israel on Saturday. It currently has more than 3,500 followers.

It calls for law enforcement agencies to arrest and interrogate those it names and for them to be brought to justice. But it adds: “Do not spare or feel sorry for them. Nazis are not pitied.”

And it urges users to share the link to the channel so that others can join: “If you share a lot maybe it will reach the Nazis themselves and they will kill themselves out of fear.”

Many of those named are women, including a number involved in administrative affairs at Al-Aqsa Mosque. Some on the list have been convicted by Israel for offences such as throwing stones at Israeli settlers.

Sabri, 85, is the former chief mufti of Jerusalem, the head of the Supreme Islamic Council and one of the main imams at Al-Aqsa. He has delivered Friday sermons there since the early 1970s and has been arrested several times by Israeli forces.

He is described on the channel as “a partner along with the leaders of Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah in the plan to annihilate the State of Israel”, and “the main Nazi in Jerusalem”.

The channel gives GPS coordinates for Sabri’s home and calls for it to be attacked.

“Sabri is one of the most important targets for elimination,” it says.

The Nazi Hunters 2023 Telegram channel calls for prominent Palestinians to be eliminated (Screengrab)
Zabarqa told MEE that groups calling for the deaths of prominent Palestinians enjoyed growing influence in the Israeli parliament, the Knesset, and the Israeli security establishment.

"Alarmingly, the current phase has transitioned to overt incitement for assassination, marking a dangerous turn targeting influential figures on the Palestinian stage, the Islamic world, and globally," he said.

"We lack protection. Israeli law enforcement doesn't offer any safety to us or our Palestinian leaders."

The channel also calls for attacks against specific locations including mosques, universities and businesses. On Tuesday it posted the coordinates of a mosque in the West Bank city of Nablus and called for it to be bombed.

Israeli settlers frequently attack villages near Nablus. On Thursday, settlers killed a Palestinian man and his son in the town of Qusra, south of the city, as they were attending the funeral of four men killed by settlers the previous day.

Many Palestinians in Israel and the occupied territories of the West Bank and East Jerusalem are increasingly concerned by the growing threat from far-right groups fuelled by Israeli leaders’ incendiary rhetoric ahead of an expected ground assault in Gaza.

At least 1,800 people have been killed in Gaza by Israeli air strikes. In Israel, at least 1,300 people were killed during Palestinian fighters' assault on Saturday.

The channel is one among a number of channels on Telegram and other messaging services identified by Middle East Eye which currently appear to be inciting violence against Palestinians.

MEE contacted Telegram for comment but had not received a response at the time of publication.

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🔴 RECAP: #Israel #Palestine (as of 14:00 GMT 14 October)

1. The director of Al-Awda Hospital said its staff remained in the facility and would continue to aid patients, as it would be "impossible" to transport the sick and wounded

2. Egypt has closed off the Rafah border crossing with the Gaza Strip by erecting a concrete barrier

3. Israeli air strikes have killed 324 Palestinians in the past 24 hours, and wounded at least 1,000 others, according to the Palestinian health ministry

4. The ICJP intends to prosecute the UK government over over alleged complicity in war crimes in Gaza

5. Israel has killed at least 2,215 people in Gaza over the past week, including 724 children and 458 women, according to the Palestinian health ministry

6. UN says "it is a matter of life and death" as water runs out putting over two million people in Gaza at risk

7. Hamas said nine more captives were killed in indiscriminate Israeli shelling in the last 24 hours, including a number of foreigners

8. Missiles were fired at an Israeli army post from south Lebanon. The Israeli military said it was attacking the source of the missiles

9. Renewed Israeli airstrikes near al-Fakhura School in Jabalia refugee camp killed at least 20 Palestinians

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[ExomatrixTV]

So, what's REALLY happening in Israel...?

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Israel, a Middle Eastern country on the Mediterranean Sea, is regarded by Jews, Christians and Muslims as the biblical Holy Land. Its most sacred sites are in Jerusalem. Within its Old City, the Temple Mount complex includes the Dome of the Rock shrine, the historic Western Wall, Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Israel's financial hub, Tel Aviv, is known for its Bauhaus architecture and beaches.

[Dorjezigzag]

My take on the the nature of the unfolding narrative


The Israeli Festival Horror Story

Penning this article isn’t easy

(...)

The underlying lesson these movies try to teach us is clear: stepping away from the well-trodden path of societal norms can lead to a grim fate, potentially ending in punishment or, quite literally, death. It’s a stark reinforcement of traditional conservative values, emphasizing the importance of sexual restraint and unwavering conformity.

(...)

https://www.bee3.org/?page_id=1590

I do not agree. You are at least incomplete, if not essentially wrong.

The "lesson" such films teach us are only a thin veneer of virtue and appropriateness over something else: they do NOT want to teach the viewer anything : instead they present to the viewer a unique opportunity to slash, murder, kill, eat human flesh vicariously without being killed on an electric chair for having watched snuff porn. That is their real purpose.

The linking back to virtue at the and is a flourish hinting at the fact that it is normal to have such vicarious wishes – or in other words: the persons massacred and the persons massacring are the same: you, viewer, and I, film maker.

The works of the Marquis the Sade – which have always been condemned with horror — for instance by somebody like Napoleon, who inflicted “sadistic" horror on his own soldiers and their adversaries – teach us that, any vicarious pleasure being sabotaged by their style displaying an almost Brechtian “unjuiciness”, such horrors (quite real at least at the epoch of the Terreur phase of the French Revolution) are the result of the rejection of any metaphysical dimension or belief..

Instead of “teaching” us morality, the horrors of this conflict (or of any conflict) invite us to unleash our murderish rage here and now.

War has come. Finally we can be cannibals.








From Bill:
Just a helpful note, in case anyone assumes Dorjezigzag wrote this himself. It was all quoted from this article:
https://www.bee3.org/?page_id=1590
:thumbsup:



I did actually write the article

I want to clarify my perspective here. I'm not glorifying these films as moral guideposts. Instead, I'm using them as examples of how storytelling can be harnessed to create intense emotional impact and manipulate the audience. Many of these movies are targeted at teenagers who are navigating the complexities of their emerging sexuality.

Do you think that I feel that the Israeli authorities have any moral high ground?

These movies have evolved from traditional fairytales. Throughout history, stories have been shared around campfires to impart the values of a community to its children and young members. In modern culture movies have very much taken on this role. Examples like Little Red Riding Hood and Bluebeard have been twisted and shaped to better reflect the values of the society in question.

It's important to note that much of the violence in the world has been carried out in the name of 'morality.' Movements like the Spanish Inquisition used religion as a justification for torture and murder, and many wars throughout history have been framed as moral crusades. The Israeli-Hamas conflict is no exception to this pattern.

So, to be clear, I don't believe that joyful dancing, sex or intoxication are sins deserving the kind of punishment depicted in these movies.

Do you really think that I think that these beautiful innocent life-celebrating teenagers who believed in love and peace should be punished for having these beliefs and be gunned down?

The Israeli authorities, on the other hand, might prefer to influence these individuals to adopt their own set of beliefs to what they consider 'morality.' This is why this event may be used to shape these young adults into fighters, with no room for turning the other cheek. It's an "eye for an eye" Old Testament morality.

Oh and just to say 'Cabin in the Woods' unlike your generic slasher movie is actually a good movie with an interesting exploration of conspiratorial ideas. Especially its whole engagement with the concept of institutional ritual and sacrifice which we know to be an all to real reality

[norman]

https://www.disclose.tv/id/0fl7iv3yet/

https://i-cdn.embed.ly/1/display/crop?height=300&key=fd92ebbc52fc43fb98f69e50e7893c13&url=https%3A%2F%2Fm104216-ucdn.mp.lura.live%2Fiupl_lin%2FC4D%2F43D%2FC4D43D4F5FF191EEB875F782F91B194F.jpg%3FExpires%3D20827584 00%26KeyName%3Dmcpkey1%26Signature%3DUbpyN1hYzhYUoxYjoyog5PUOIlA&width=636

Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group deploys

The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group is headed to the Mediterranean. The deployment of the aircraft carrier itself was delayed to ensure the ship is in peak readiness.

[Brian Miles Kobernuss]

So, what's REALLY happening in Israel...?

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"But in terms of sides, one fighting the other, to take either is to lose the plot." - David Icke

perfectly said.

We know how this is played by now. We must remind ourselves never to take the bait.

[shaberon]

To those who profess real Judaism, Zionism is a religious abomination.

In the course of my adult life, I saw how the anti-Zionist Hassidim of my youth in my town of birth, Antwerp, were gradually being replaced by “Hassidim” immigrating from the US, all fiercely Zionist. (I put those "Hassidim” between quotation marks because the esoteric traditions in Judaism speak of a heavenly Zion, just like Kabbalistc Christians speak of a heavenly Jerusalem. "Hassidic Zionism" is an oxymoron.)


What you say there sounds like design and intent.

That's not very clever is it? They already know how to look and act the part, and that no one else in the world is going to pay attention why the message does not match the costume. Cheap tricks.

This sort of thing was big for decades after WWII.



Let's see what "inclusiveness" means in Lebanon (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1933285):


Hezbollah Attacks All Israeli Military Outposts in Lebanon’s Occupied Shebaa Farms

The statement indicated that the targeted sites are Al-Radar, Ruwaisat Al-Alam, Zibdin, Al-Sammaqa, and Ramtha.

Islamic Resistance fighters destroy most of the technical equipment at Burkat Al-Naqqar post


Regardless of Israeli damage to the airports, the FM simply continued to Lebanon where:


Iran (https://sputnikglobe.com/20231015/iran-warns-israel-that-escalation-in-gaza-conflict-threatens-regional-war---reports-1114206023.html) made it clear that it may need to intervene if Israel's military operation in Gaza continues, reports US media quoting diplomatic sources.

The warning sent by Iran to Israel through the UN coincides with the US' efforts to deter Iran and Lebanon's Hezbollah or others from entering the conflict, claims US media.

Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian held a meeting with UN envoy to the Middle East, Tor Wennesland, in Beirut, reports US media quoting diplomatic sources. During this meeting, Wennesland implored Amir-Abdollahian to help prevent the conflict from spilling over into the broader Middle East region.

In response, the Iranian foreign minister conveyed Iran's reluctance to see the situation evolve into a regional war. He also expressed Iran's willingness to aid in the release of civilians held hostage by Hamas in Gaza. However, he emphasized that Iran has "red lines" and would respond if Israel continues its military operation, particularly if it proceeds with a ground offensive in Gaza.




Cat's out of the bag?

You have been warned.

[gini]

/dKFsPsjnPpMf/. David Sorensen, 14 oktober 2023. 60 min.

'This film reveals something so nefarious, so evil, so baffling that many will find it hard to believe. It's still true.
This film could deliver a fatal blow to the satanic elites who want to establish a world government to enslave all of humanity.

The shocking secrets revealed by this incredible documentary will shine a bright light on those who have always hid behind the State of Israel and Hamas.'

[Tintin]

There's been such a bombardment of imagery - a veritable deluge - that one has found oneself being even more careful than usual in attempting to discern true imagery from manufactured imagery - the 'message' - and I have over two decades of experience of doing that, and usually get my observations spot-on.

So, what I post here is a snippet from a Twitter thread that may be worthy of consideration in discerning more carefully still image sources for the narrative. This example here suggests that some footage, that purported to be from the Negev desert festival, may in fact have been sourced from an earlier Bruno Mars concert in Tel Aviv, two days earlier.

Source: https://twitter.com/mariyyum/status/1713278552005915038

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[Agape]

What the MSM do not say is that the State of Israel is in direct conflict and confrontation with the very Chasidic Jewish community of its Elders ,
so called orthodox Jewish community who live protected by the State
but to this day peacefully resist the right “to participate”,

namely military conscription

as clearly as the First Commandment of All human religions from one to another Prophet clearly states:
“Thou shall not kill”.

In-depth view of opinions of Rabbis may differ
but there is no fault
in the Universal law of interconnectedness of intelligent Life,

the right of all conscious Beings to their sovereignty and Freedom,

the right for interfaith communication

establishing brotherhood among all people on this Earth

granting each their space ,

rights and freedoms.


Their voices too are silenced I suppose for they
would call *hold your chair tight* for dissolution
of the current “State of Israel”

in favour of larger religious “Palestine”.


However. We are “on Earth” where even the “people with highest IQ on the planet ( maybe some other planets ? I suggest ..) are unable to find decent solution

for their brothers and sisters.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HJNfKTO7XK8

In the meantime , there’s relative peace in “occupied Eastern Jerusalem” and the war is being sorted by spitting “round mosques.


We are the power of resistance ... .....?

No H mass here ,
no point in time

The time is late


🙏🕊🙏🕊🕊🕊

[Rizotto]

One more Isreali voice from a kibbutz who testifies that for hours on end they had no help from the IDF during the Hamas attack.
This young woman is intelligent and wise, Isreal needs a prime minister like her now.

Israeli Teenager Who SURVIVED Hamas Attack DEMANDS Israel STOP Bombing Gaza!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c74Zdvpt5xc

[Rizotto]

/dKFsPsjnPpMf/. David Sorensen, 14 oktober 2023. 60 min.

'This film reveals something so nefarious, so evil, so baffling that many will find it hard to believe. It's still true.
This film could deliver a fatal blow to the satanic elites who want to establish a world government to enslave all of humanity.

The shocking secrets revealed by this incredible documentary will shine a bright light on those who have always hid behind the State of Israel and Hamas.'

Thank you for sharing this important documentary. It summarizes a lot of the random data and questions I've been through in recent weeks. Hard to watch, but it's a must see, especially for fundamentalist christians and jews worldwide.

[Rizotto]

I thought that Rabbi Richman's comment just after the 5:00 minute mark was interesting - seems to support Rabbi Finklestein's views on the goyim as well. I think this is a minority pov in that community, as are the extreme ideologies in the Christian and Muslim communities.

'More Israeli Voices Speak Out - Hamas Attack Inside Job. It is hard to fathom that for some reason someone no doubt deep state actors have an agenda to inflame the entire Middle East. But sad to say many innocent lives are lost as a result of this concocted attack. Will the truth ever be told?'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BzTFSN31fs?si=xsS_BNnr32tqrdiO

Thanks! At 16:00 the video shows an unbelievable letter from Baruch Levy to Karl Marx. Sounds like where Klaus Schwab of the WEF got his agenda.

I looked it up online and here it is. Hard to believe it's real, some internet links claimed it is a hoax, but I will appreciate any confirmation or otherwise about the authenticity.


"1879 letter from Baruch Levy to Karl Marx:
The Jewish people as a whole will be its own messiah. It will attain world dominion by the
dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy, and by
the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the
privilege of citizenship. In this new world order the children of Israel will furnish all the
leaders without encountering opposition. The governments of the different peoples forming
the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be
possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, and everywhere to make use of
the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which it is
said that when the messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole
world in their hands."

source: [2011] Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great by Edward Hendrie
https://ia601704.us.archive.org/11/items/1879-letter-from-baruch-levy-to-karl-marx/1879%20letter%20from%20Baruch%20Levy%20to%20Karl%20Marx_.pdf

[ExomatrixTV]

Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu deliberately allowed Hamas to murder Israeli civilians. The Israeli army was ordered not to intervene for seven hours during the Hamas attack. At least that's what Cecily Routman of the Jewish Pro-Life Foundation says.

It is impossible that the government did not know what would happen, she said in conversation with Lauren Witzke.
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Rabbi

Routman relies on information that Rabbi Chananya Weissman received from his confidential sources. He wrote in a letter that the IDF, the Israel Defense Forces, and the air force were not allowed to intervene for seven hours.

This gave the terrorists the opportunity to invade the country and slaughter and torture Israelis, Routman said.
This should never have happened

She drew a parallel with a family who has a mad dog in the house and then blames the dog when the baby is bitten. The dog should have been removed before it had a chance to injure anyone, Routman said.

“This should never have happened.”


dutch (https://www.ninefornews.nl/netanyahu-gaf-israelische-leger-bevel-om-7-uur-lang-niet-in-te-grijpen-tijdens-hamas-inval) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

[Lunesoleil]

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Meeting with Dr Bassem Tahhan Political scientist "Israeli-Gaza War: Towards an international turning point"

use the translator in your language

Bassam Tahhan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassam_Tahhan)

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Listen from 44:30 minutes, Bassam Tahhan begins to speak

[SilentFeathers]

The Israeli man in this video explains the Palestinian narrative, the Israeli narrative, the history of the Land of Israel, the problems that have led up to the events happening now, and what might be the only way to peace.

He challenges everyone to prove him wrong.

This is a well put together video and I can't prove him wrong and believe me I've tried, but just can't find any facts to prove him wrong.

It's 28 minutes long but is quite informative and interesting and had my attention all the way through it.

Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective you’ve probably never heard.)

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[ExomatrixTV]

The Israeli man in this video explains the Palestinian narrative, the Israeli narrative, the history of the Land of Israel, the problems that have led up to the events happening now, and what might be the only way to peace.

He challenges everyone to prove him wrong.

This is a well put together video and I can't prove him wrong and believe me I've tried, but just can't find any facts to prove him wrong.

It's 28 minutes long but is quite informative and interesting and had my attention all the way through it.

Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective you’ve probably never heard.)

XNf40sBcvKk


I like his style :) I really do ... Searched where I can find his real first and last name ... NOWHERE to be found! ... Not on his sites (travel agency site included).

Love to hear him educating us about what the REAL difference is between "Hebrew Jews (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews)" vs "Ashkenazi Jews (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews)" and why that it is KEY to better understand the bigger picture! ... Plus, I love to hear him discussing the best points made by JewsAgainstZionism (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUppu2OHVTY) movement, who are growing worldwide! 1000s of very smart Orthodox Jews (wrongfully framed as: "Ultra Orthodox" :facepalm: ) explaining things that are mostly NOT reported in mainstream media! ... I wonder why that is!

Who has deep knowledge that Totalitarian Communism originally originates from the Ashkenazi Jews (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews)? ... Or is there no evidence for such claim? ... How many people died because of Communism in Russia, China, Cuba, North Vietnam, North Korea etc. ?? ... Does anyone have trusted numbers?


Karl Marx Communist Manifesto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto) an (Ashkenazi) Jew Conspiracy? ... If so, that would explain Neo-Marxism (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115763-American-Marxism) in the USA that came out of that!

And the vast majority of Jews have nothing to do with all the above, but at the same time most of them do not want to know about it either ... that is really sad!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

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Ben Shapiro Tweets Out FAKE A.I. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-) IMAGE As "Proof" Of Atrocity!

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Among the numerous propagandists eager to provide cover for the Israeli response to the “barbarism” demonstrated by Hamas, commentator Ben Shapiro has stood out as particularly fevered. Among his social media posts Shapiro shared alleged “proof” of Hamas’s cruelty in the form of an image he claimed depicted a charred baby corpse. Except that many Twitter users pointed out that a Reverse A.I (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-). Checking Tool identified the photo as artificially generated. Guest host Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger talk to Due Dissidence hosts Keaton Weiss and Russell Dobula about the “charred baby” allegations promoted by Shapiro.

[Ewan]

The Israeli man in this video explains the Palestinian narrative, the Israeli narrative, the history of the Land of Israel, the problems that have led up to the events happening now, and what might be the only way to peace.

He challenges everyone to prove him wrong.

This is a well put together video and I can't prove him wrong and believe me I've tried, but just can't find any facts to prove him wrong.

It's 28 minutes long but is quite informative and interesting and had my attention all the way through it.

Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective you’ve probably never heard.)

XNf40sBcvKk

It was an interesting video, BUT -

I noticed, despite all his facts, he had a very obvious bias within his thinking that favoured his facts quite dramatically in the way it was presented.

Isreali's did this, did that, but in the same time period the Palastinian's did nothing. (sub-human, incapable)

However he ignores all the geopolitical history of the region and all the 'big players' that had such a strong influence on shaping the region. The actual peoples were mere pawns.

Why might the Jews have been accorded such favouritism that the entire Western world, politically, can see no wrong in their policies/actions? Might there be a 'hidden hand'? There are plenty theories about that.

The sheer fact that no Western mainstream commentator mentions the uncanny similarlty to a progrom in the treatment of Palastinians today as we witnessed, historically, in the 2nd World War against today's perpetrators.

Irony?

[ExomatrixTV]

China Tells Israel To Back Off. Us' Pressure On China Failed. China Says Israel Went Too Far:

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[SilentFeathers]

The Israeli man in this video explains the Palestinian narrative, the Israeli narrative, the history of the Land of Israel, the problems that have led up to the events happening now, and what might be the only way to peace.

He challenges everyone to prove him wrong.

This is a well put together video and I can't prove him wrong and believe me I've tried, but just can't find any facts to prove him wrong.

It's 28 minutes long but is quite informative and interesting and had my attention all the way through it.

Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective you’ve probably never heard.)

XNf40sBcvKk

It was an interesting video, BUT -

I noticed, despite all his facts, he had a very obvious bias within his thinking that favoured his facts quite dramatically in the way it was presented.

Isreali's did this, did that, but in the same time period the Palastinian's did nothing. (sub-human, incapable)

However he ignores all the geopolitical history of the region and all the 'big players' that had such a strong influence on shaping the region. The actual peoples were mere pawns.

Why might the Jews have been accorded such favouritism that the entire Western world, politically, can see no wrong in their policies/actions? Might there be a 'hidden hand'? There are plenty theories about that.

The sheer fact that no Western mainstream commentator mentions the uncanny similarlty to a progrom in the treatment of Palastinians today as we witnessed, historically, in the 2nd World War against today's perpetrators.

Irony?

I sensed a large amount of bias also, but, what he did say especially pertaining to the historical aspect of the video was for the most part quite accurate and informative. No one side is ever completely innocent, that has surely been proven throughout history. This video is just an interesting perspective from one Israeli, peppered with some historical facts.

I'm waiting for someone to actually mention anything relating to how all these fighters so easily crossed the border on October 7th and actually had so much time to do what they did. I'm also waiting to hear an explanation as to why it took so long for the IDF to actually respond. Many of these fighters actually had plenty of time to wander around slaughtering many and then had even more time to get back across the border unchallenged with large groups of hostages.

What may have led up to something like October 7th is one thing, but how October 7th actually happened is another, like I said, no one side is ever completely innocent. Every time someone in the media even slightly brings up why the border was so easily breeched by so many, the subject is immediately changed, and they are told now is not the time for that, the time now is to crush Hamas.

Nothing is as they say it is anymore, it's all just more deception, manipulation, and insanity.

[Ernie Nemeth]

The Israeli man in this video explains the Palestinian narrative, the Israeli narrative, the history of the Land of Israel, the problems that have led up to the events happening now, and what might be the only way to peace.

He challenges everyone to prove him wrong.

This is a well put together video and I can't prove him wrong and believe me I've tried, but just can't find any facts to prove him wrong.

It's 28 minutes long but is quite informative and interesting and had my attention all the way through it.

Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective you’ve probably never heard.)

XNf40sBcvKk

Thanks Silent Feathers.

Interesting take on the region. References to the bible and quaran lent emphasis to his main argument.
I have bookmarked some of his claims in my mind and waiting for any verification I might run across.

On that note, I am listening right now to Jay Dyer on InfoWars about the topic. An entirely different take, focusing in on the British influence even in the 18th century. Not much for a deep dive into the history of the region. Whether the Arabs have a claim to the land, where the word Palestine came from, or even how the Jews have been systematically erased from many Arab nations in recent decades (not to mention the Christians).

Later on, Dyer also emphasizes the role of the Fabian society and Sufiism.

Good framework for further study.

[ExomatrixTV]

The Mystery Of Israel - Solved? (Best Quality!)

https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/h/V/Y/v/hVYvn.caa.mp4


quote: "The film exposes something so nefarious, so evil, so mind-blowing that many will find it hard to believe. Yet it is true.

This film can deliver a fatal blow to the satanic elites, who want to establish a world government to enslave all of humanity.

The shocking secrets unveiled by this incredible documentary will shine a blazing light on those who have always been hiding behind the state of Israel.

Learn more secrets here: stopworldcontrol.com (https://www.stopworldcontrol.com)". unquote


source (https://rumble.com/v3p9613-the-mystery-of-israel-solved-incredibly-shocking.html)

[Satori]

I thought that Rabbi Richman's comment just after the 5:00 minute mark was interesting - seems to support Rabbi Finklestein's views on the goyim as well. I think this is a minority pov in that community, as are the extreme ideologies in the Christian and Muslim communities.

'More Israeli Voices Speak Out - Hamas Attack Inside Job. It is hard to fathom that for some reason someone no doubt deep state actors have an agenda to inflame the entire Middle East. But sad to say many innocent lives are lost as a result of this concocted attack. Will the truth ever be told?'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BzTFSN31fs?si=xsS_BNnr32tqrdiO

Thanks! At 16:00 the video shows an unbelievable letter from Baruch Levy to Karl Marx. Sounds like where Klaus Schwab of the WEF got his agenda.

I looked it up online and here it is. Hard to believe it's real, some internet links claimed it is a hoax, but I will appreciate any confirmation or otherwise about the authenticity.


"1879 letter from Baruch Levy to Karl Marx:
The Jewish people as a whole will be its own messiah. It will attain world dominion by the
dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy, and by
the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the
privilege of citizenship. In this new world order the children of Israel will furnish all the
leaders without encountering opposition. The governments of the different peoples forming
the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be
possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, and everywhere to make use of
the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which it is
said that when the messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole
world in their hands."

source: [2011] Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great by Edward Hendrie
https://ia601704.us.archive.org/11/items/1879-letter-from-baruch-levy-to-karl-marx/1879%20letter%20from%20Baruch%20Levy%20to%20Karl%20Marx_.pdf


This is consistent with, if not right of, The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion, which I am currently rereading.

[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you Dorjezigzag. You persist in your fairytale interpretation of such movies, which is your right of course. I disagree: they are not fairytales by any measure. Listening to a fairytale no child wants to be the big bad wolf. The characters in such movies think that their life is a fairytale, but the audience watching the film indulges in the fantasy of being the wolf. And their denial afterwards is the tell-tale sign of their guilt on a deeper level. By now one should expect at least the readiness to apply the psychoanalytical interpretative techniques to the reading of cultural products. It is only when one reads them like that that there is any relevance of horror movies to what is happening in Palestine. Not for nothing have a few observers already spoken of an aura of "staged"-ness around several photographs. Reality imitates art; Stockhausen called 9/11 a work of art. It is by priming the public with a vicarious, penalty-free opportunity to indulge in a gore spree that one awakens what I have called the "cannibalistic impulse”. (I might also refer to the by now well-known horror raiding chimpanzees value so highly. “Finally we can be chimpanzees again!”) When volunteers left enlightened Europe to participate in the assaults on Syria, one young Dutchman said in an interview something like this: “Finally I can live out in reality what I have only been doing gaming on the computer.”

[ExomatrixTV]

There's been such a bombardment of imagery - a veritable deluge - that one has found oneself being even more careful than usual in attempting to discern true imagery from manufactured imagery - the 'message' - and I have over two decades of experience of doing that, and usually get my observations spot-on.

So, what I post here is a snippet from a Twitter thread that may be worthy of consideration in discerning more carefully still image sources for the narrative. This example here suggests that some footage, that purported to be from the Negev desert festival, may in fact have been sourced from an earlier Bruno Mars concert in Tel Aviv, two days earlier.

Source: https://twitter.com/mariyyum/status/1713278552005915038

1713278552005915038
Meanwhile, a deafening silence of the so-called "Fact Checkers" hired by the biggest social media platforms to censor (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80790-Internet-Censorship-So-it-began...) real research.

If they continue to ignore REAL IMPORTANT FACT-CHECKING, they are complicit pushing false narratives which can lead to thousands of innocent people needlessly being killed ... Just like what happened in IRAQ ... No "fact checking" during the assumed "Weapons of Mass Destruction (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/22/iraq-war-wmds-an-intelligence-failure-or-white-house-spin/)" in Iraq (LIE!) coming with an alleged "Mushroom Cloud" (LIE!) and the Kuwait "Baby Incubators" (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/02/26/the-kuwaiti-incubator-hoax/35b1e882-f796-4acb-a106-9280a7dda521/) (LIE!) at the U.N. speech all of that and more led to slaughter of millions!


Big Government & Big Media LIES can have huge consequences, meanwhile "fact-checkers sites" focus mostly on those who try to expose Government & Big Media lies. They are just an extension of the massive corruption & deceit.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Dorjezigzag]

Thank you Dorjezigzag. You persist in your fairytale interpretation of such movies, which is your right of course. I disagree: they are not fairytales by any measure. Listening to a fairytale no child wants to be the big bad wolf. The characters in such movies think that their life is a fairytale, but the audience watching the film indulges in the fantasy of being the wolf. And their denial afterwards is the tell-tale sign of their guilt on a deeper level. By now one should expect at least the readiness to apply the psychoanalytical interpretative techniques to the reading of cultural products. It is only when one reads them like that that there is any relevance of horror movies to what is happening in Palestine. Not for nothing have a few observers already spoken of an aura of "staged"-ness around several photographs. Reality imitates art; Stockhausen called 9/11 a work of art. It is by priming the public with a vicarious, penalty-free opportunity to indulge in a gore spree that one awakens what I have called the "cannibalistic impulse”. (I might also refer to the by now well-known horror raiding chimpanzees value so highly. “Finally we can be chimpanzees again!”) When volunteers left enlightened Europe to participate in the assaults on Syria, one young Dutchman said in an interview something like this: “Finally I can live out in reality what I have only been doing gaming on the computer.”


Im not going to get into an argument with you but you really need to do some research before you are so disrespectful. You are not even trying to understand my perspective. How many times do I have to tell you I am not celebrating horror films I am just pointing out the similarities with this event to manipulative horror conventions. If we are to understand the nature of the narratives of these events we need to look at the structure of narrative conventions that has evolved in popular culture.

Just to be clear I used to be a lecturer in film at university and work in the film and television industry. so I know what I talking about. Most movie studios before green-lighting a film will put it through an analysis based on the work of Joseph Campbell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell) who was influenced by the work of Vladimir Propp (http://www.mediaknowall.com/as_alevel/alevkeyconcepts/propp.php). Both of whom used the study of fairytales and mythology to formulise their theories and perceptions.

Modern psychology that we know today has taken a lot of its structure from the analysis of mythologies and fairytales.

Do you really think that authorities do not use this kind of analysis to formulate their narratives as well? They need to use the stories with maximum manipulative effect.

Anyway back to topic and if you want to comment anymore PM me.

[Bill Ryan]

Anyway back to topic and if you want to comment anymore PM me.Mod note from Bill:

Dear Friends, we may all need to remember, if and when we can, that emotions and tensions are running quite high, perhaps not only individually but among many millions of people everywhere right now. It's all rather a swirling storm, in which it's not always easy to keep one's balance and remain totally unaffected.

Do please see my personal post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116989-The-Support-Thread&p=1581323&viewfull=1#post1581323) (and the half dozen replies that follow) on The Support Thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116989-The-Support-Thread). That may be interesting to many, and any members reading this are more than welcome to share their thoughts and feelings there.

:grouphug: :focus:

[Michel Leclerc]

One more Isreali voice from a kibbutz who testifies that for hours on end they had no help from the IDF during the Hamas attack.
This young woman is intelligent and wise, Isreal needs a prime minister like her now.

Israeli Teenager Who SURVIVED Hamas Attack DEMANDS Israel STOP Bombing Gaza!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c74Zdvpt5xc

Great testimony.

[Lunesoleil]

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support for Palestine around the world

[ExomatrixTV]

Was This Attack ALLOWED To Happen?

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It’s been widely reported that the Egyptian government shared numerous warnings with Israel about the impending Hamas attack across the Gaza border. But now it appears the U.S. government was also aware in advance that Hamas was planning something substantial.

Guest host Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger talk to Due Dissidence hosts Keaton Weiss and Russell Dobula about the burning question of whether the Netanyahu government was aware an attack was in the offing and did nothing to stop it.

[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you Dorjezigzag. You persist in your fairytale interpretation of such movies, which is your right of course. I disagree: they are not fairytales by any measure. Listening to a fairytale no child wants to be the big bad wolf. The characters in such movies think that their life is a fairytale, but the audience watching the film indulges in the fantasy of being the wolf. And their denial afterwards is the tell-tale sign of their guilt on a deeper level. By now one should expect at least the readiness to apply the psychoanalytical interpretative techniques to the reading of cultural products. It is only when one reads them like that that there is any relevance of horror movies to what is happening in Palestine. Not for nothing have a few observers already spoken of an aura of "staged"-ness around several photographs. Reality imitates art; Stockhausen called 9/11 a work of art. It is by priming the public with a vicarious, penalty-free opportunity to indulge in a gore spree that one awakens what I have called the "cannibalistic impulse”. (I might also refer to the by now well-known horror raiding chimpanzees value so highly. “Finally we can be chimpanzees again!”) When volunteers left enlightened Europe to participate in the assaults on Syria, one young Dutchman said in an interview something like this: “Finally I can live out in reality what I have only been doing gaming on the computer.”


Im not going to get into an argument with you but you really need to do some research before you are so disrespectful. You are not even trying to understand my perspective. How many times do I have to tell you I am not celebrating horror films I am just pointing out the similarities with this event to manipulative horror conventions. If we are to understand the nature of the narratives of these events we need to look at the structure of narrative conventions that has evolved in popular culture.

Just to be clear I used to be a lecturer in film at university and work in the film and television industry. so I know what I talking about. Most movie studios before green-lighting a film will put it through an analysis based on the work of Joseph Campbell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell) who was influenced by the work of Vladimir Propp (http://www.mediaknowall.com/as_alevel/alevkeyconcepts/propp.php). Both of whom used the study of fairytales and mythology to formulise their theories and perceptions.

Modern psychology that we know today has taken a lot of its structure from the analysis of mythologies and fairytales.

Anyway back to topic and if you want to comment anymore PM me.

Sorry Dorjezigzag, I cannot heed your order not to react within the thread. Allow me to be my own judge on that.

Propp is a mostly formalist (you will appreciate the pun I suppose) and ultimately reductionist approach to the study of tales which has its value but which is not applicable to dreams for instance. Reading a film as if it were a tale is like explaining a car as if it were a bicycle. You cannot explain the complex by the simple.

I do not wish to derail this thread into a discussion among narratologists. My point was and is however that psychoanalysis is, although interestingly relevant for the study of horror film as such, essential to the study of the intent of viewers of the horror film (in ways in which Propp is not).

The depth-psychological study of what goes on in the horror movie viewer’s psyche is therefore, and moreover, of direct relevance to what goes on in the psyche of people who see real or staged horror videos of war and military conflict. And that fact makes my point valuable for the topic of this thread. People are already, and will increasingly become aware of "false" videographic and photographic documents about the beginning of the drama. Yet those who are easily overcome by bloodlust will ignore this evidence.

(I would prefer to end our discussion there. I am under the impression that we are talking about two quite different things.)

[Dorjezigzag]

Thank you Dorjezigzag. You persist in your fairytale interpretation of such movies, which is your right of course. I disagree: they are not fairytales by any measure. Listening to a fairytale no child wants to be the big bad wolf. The characters in such movies think that their life is a fairytale, but the audience watching the film indulges in the fantasy of being the wolf. And their denial afterwards is the tell-tale sign of their guilt on a deeper level. By now one should expect at least the readiness to apply the psychoanalytical interpretative techniques to the reading of cultural products. It is only when one reads them like that that there is any relevance of horror movies to what is happening in Palestine. Not for nothing have a few observers already spoken of an aura of "staged"-ness around several photographs. Reality imitates art; Stockhausen called 9/11 a work of art. It is by priming the public with a vicarious, penalty-free opportunity to indulge in a gore spree that one awakens what I have called the "cannibalistic impulse”. (I might also refer to the by now well-known horror raiding chimpanzees value so highly. “Finally we can be chimpanzees again!”) When volunteers left enlightened Europe to participate in the assaults on Syria, one young Dutchman said in an interview something like this: “Finally I can live out in reality what I have only been doing gaming on the computer.”


Im not going to get into an argument with you but you really need to do some research before you are so disrespectful. You are not even trying to understand my perspective. How many times do I have to tell you I am not celebrating horror films I am just pointing out the similarities with this event to manipulative horror conventions. If we are to understand the nature of the narratives of these events we need to look at the structure of narrative conventions that has evolved in popular culture.

Just to be clear I used to be a lecturer in film at university and work in the film and television industry. so I know what I talking about. Most movie studios before green-lighting a film will put it through an analysis based on the work of Joseph Campbell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell) who was influenced by the work of Vladimir Propp (http://www.mediaknowall.com/as_alevel/alevkeyconcepts/propp.php). Both of whom used the study of fairytales and mythology to formulise their theories and perceptions.

Modern psychology that we know today has taken a lot of its structure from the analysis of mythologies and fairytales.

Anyway back to topic and if you want to comment anymore PM me.

Sorry Dorjezigzag, I cannot heed your order not to react within the thread. Allow me to be my own judge on that.

Propp is a mostly formalist (you will appreciate the pun I suppose) and ultimately reductionist approach to the study of tales which has its value but which is not applicable to dreams for instance. Reading a film as if it were a tale is like explaining a car as if it were a bicycle. You cannot explain the complex by the simple.

I do not wish to derail this thread into a discussion among narratologists. My point was and is however that psychoanalysis is, although interestingly relevant for the study of horror film as such, essential to the study of the intent of viewers of the horror film (in ways in which Propp is not).

The depth-psychological study of what goes on in the horror movie viewer’s psyche is therefore, and moreover, of direct relevance to what goes on in the psyche of people who see real or staged horror videos of war and military conflict. And that fact makes my point valuable for the topic of this thread. People are already, and will increasingly become aware of "false" videographic and photographic documents about the beginning of the drama. Yet those who are easily overcome by bloodlust will ignore this evidence.

(I would prefer to end our discussion there. I am under the impression that we are talking about two quite different things.)

Why are you constantly trying to reduce my argument to 'its just about fairytales', yes that is one element, but my article was about so much more than that. For instance how terror is used to induce shock and trauma and how to maximise this effect. The focus on youth and sexuality. All very much psychological manipulations.

How about rather than trying to pick holes in my article and cherry pick points taking them out of context while ignoring others you actually write one yourself?

To get back on topic I am going to share a short story now. my own personal experience about why I can particularly relate to these events. Stories have great meaning.

1 THE ECLIPSE
Sometimes in life the boundaries between the world of dreams and the world of waking life become blurred. We see faint patterns and structures in these connections through the ancient stories of myth and fairy tales. The following story is a journey into this realm where all becomes clear once the fog has cleared.
I have spent several years visiting and working in Israel, returning many times to areas up and down the country including Galilee, Jerusalem, Safed (Tsfat) and the Palestinian territories such as Gaza and the west bank.

I had been working the season teaching water sports in Greece with my girlfriend Josephine and we decided we would avoid the harsh UK winter by taking the boat to Israel, she had never visited and I was looking forward to showing her some of the places I had become familiar.

We worked a while in Tel Aviv and then set up a job on the Lebanese border near the town of Nahariyya, but before we travelled there we decided we would visit Jerusalem as I was keen to show the many places of interest in this intense cultural melting pot.

We took in the major attractions in the old city including the wailing wall, the dome on the rock and the church of the holy sepulchre as well as some of the more off the beaten track locations I was aware of from my time living in Jerusalem.

Within the old city there are lots of street juice vendors and after all the walking around the town we decided we would stop at one for some refreshment. There was a bountiful selection, but the Pomegranates looked particularly enticing so we ordered two of them. As we were drinking, I commented, half in fun how we were going to have vivid dreams tonight as it had been my experience with pomegranate juice in the past. I further told her how in folklore and mythology the pomegranate is associated with the underworld, the unconscious and dreams. An example being how Persephone had to remain in the underworld for 6 months of the year because she had eaten 6 pomegranate seeds. That being the cause of winter which we were trying to avoid by being in Israel.

The freshly pressed pomegranate juice was particularly flavourful and energized us to continue exploring the old city for the rest of the day, but as night closed in, we were glad to come home to bed for some much-needed sleep.

That night my comment about the pomegranate juice, half made in jest, had more resonance than we could imagine. My girlfriend had an intensely vivid dream. In the dream there were two detectives, characters reminiscent of Mulder and Scully from the X files show. They are stood over an orrery, which is a mechanical astrological machine. The clockwork planets move around to simulate the movements of the planets in our solar system. In the dream, the Sun, Earth, and Moon are coming into alignment, then as the Moon passes directly behind Earth and into its shadow, the faces of Mulder and Sculley morph into the faces of two Islamic terrorists. There is a feeling of extreme anxiety as she is plunged into darkness and unsurprisingly, she is somewhat distressed and anxious the next day.

We had planned to visit some more sites in Jerusalem on this day, so I tried to up my enthusiasm so as to distract her from her anxiety. Trying to joke and be playful to bring her out of her unease. Anyway, my efforts were not helped when we were harangued on coming out of one of the many churches. If I remember correctly it was on leaving the convent of the sisters of Zion, or at least in that area of the Old city. Our confronter was a young Muslim boy, probably around 10 years old who came up to us and accuses me of carrying a gun earlier, which to us seems ludicrous. Of course, I do not have a gun and never had I reply to him in bafflement and semi amusement. This does not ease the tension and he becomes even more hysterical and adamant that we had a gun and his accusatory voice gets louder and louder. I suggest perhaps he thought that my camera was a gun and show him this, but this does not ease his mania. A crowd starts to form around the hysterical boy and us, and I realised that the boy will not be convinced, so I figured it was time to make a swift exit. As we depart, his loud frantic denunciations continue. The old city with its history of hostilities and tension is not a place you want to be accused of carrying a firearm.

We leave the old city and head towards the church of Gethsemane with its beautiful gardens and wizened trees and the tranquil atmosphere helps us calm down and we start to see the funny side of it all.

After another day of trekking across Jerusalem and taking in so much culture we went to a bar restaurant to wind down and sample some of Jerusalem’s nightlife before we departed to northern Israel the next day. The alcohol and food was much appreciated to lighten the mood and lessen the anxiety. Our spirits were lifted, and we were back in a fun and adventurous mood. Then we notice a story developing on the TV screen showing the news in the background. A high-ranking member of Hamas, the Palestinian terrorist group had been killed that afternoon and the group were looking to enact revenge. Not the best news to hear when we are heading towards the Lebanese border where Hezbollah missiles can be launched into Israel.

We got the bus to our new workplace in Betzit near Nahariyya and we were quite impressed, it was close to the beach and quite beautiful with our living quarters nestled amongst trees. Soon we were settled into a work routine and although the work was quite hard, we liked the nature and surroundings and explored the local area with real admiration A pleasant few days passed, but a noticeable occurrence over those days while we were exploring the surrounding area was that we had a constant companion. An Owl seemed to be following us, wherever we went, flying overhead even during the day. It appeared somewhat distressed and would even swoop down towards us, not attacking, almost in warning and when we settled for overnight sleep it was always close by its warning cries bellowing into the night.

The Ainu in Japan trust the Owl because it gives them notice of evil approaching. In Ancient Greek mythology the Owl was a creature sacred to Athena, Goddess of the night who represented wisdom. Her companion Owl always on her shoulder unless flying on her behalf, revealing unseen truths to her. Around the world in myth and folklore If one saw an owl or heard its hoot, it is seen as a harbinger of bad luck, ill health, or death. The owl was obviously a bit disconcerting but generally we were in quite good spirits and we were enjoying our surroundings. Not only was the partly forested nature beautiful, the ocean and skies were stunning as well. There were incredible sunrises and sunsets and at night the stars were vibrant and clear with little light pollution.

One night we noticed that the moon was full, which was lighting up the night sky, so we decided to head towards the beach. We found a nice spot and laid down on the sand looking up at the beautiful moon and out to sea as it reflected on the ocean like sparkling jewels. It was an enchanted evening, but our tranquillity was broken when we noticed that the moon was disappearing. Soon it became clear that an eclipse of the moon was in process. We both turn from looking at the moon and look at each other in horror, we are both thinking of the same thing, Josephine’s dream. The eclipse that was represented in the dream was occurring in actuality. As the sky darkened by the moon’s disappearance, our mood darkened as well. And on completion of the eclipse we anxiously decided to head back. The return journey was very different to the excitement on making our way to the beach. The now sinister atmosphere deepened by the continued shadowing by our Owl companion, hooting more forebodingly than ever as we journeyed back to our home amongst the trees. Josephine had been concerned about the possibility of being bombed and she had spoken to the locals who had reassured us that the site where we were staying had never been hit. The Katyusha rockets in the rare times they were fired always fell more towards the town which was miles away.

This reassurance was starting to wane after the unexpected experience of the eclipse and its concurrence with the dream. Within folklore and mythology an eclipse is often seen as a portent of doom. The darkening of the sun or moon was believed to be the work of dark forces in the universe that were always present.
According to Norse legend, a giant sky wolf named Skoll chased the moon; his brother, named Hati, chased the sun. If either caught its prey, an eclipse resulted. In Chinese myth, a dragon was trying to eat the moon. The Chinese word for eclipse, "shih," means "to eat." To frighten away the dragon, people shouted and beat drums. In Benin and Togo, West Africa, The Batammaliba people believe that during an eclipse the sun and moon are fighting. The only way to stop the conflict, they believe, is for people on Earth to settle their differences.

There were large trucks that would travel up and down a road that was about 500m from where we were staying, many of them United Nations trucks who had a significant presence in the area. When they hit a hump or potholes, they would make a tremendous crashing sound. This often-put Josephine on edge and I often had to reassure her that it was just a truck. Anyway, we heard a almighty crash and Josephine gave me that look and again I reassured her that it was just a truck, that had almost become like my reflex response. I was not so sure though, then there was another colossal explosion and this time there was no explaining it away.
‘Run to the bomb shelter’ I shouted as we ran outside.

I looked up at the sky and it looked like it was raining fire, Katusha missiles were falling all around us, we could see explosions and fireballs as they hit the ground. Two fell so close that the blast wave knocked us off our feet, everything went into slow motion, our ears ringing from the explosions. I will never forget the look of terror on Josephine’s face as shrapnel flew towards us. Miraculously none of it hit us. Finally, we made it to the bomb shelter where unsurprisingly a few had already arrived as more and more people spewed in. Our friend told us how he was asleep, and a blast threw him out of his bed, which proved fortuitous as shrapnel flew into and destroyed his TV. If he had not been thrown out of his bed, he would have been in the path of the projectiles.

It is always interesting to see different people’s reaction to traumatic experiences; some are energised others become withdrawn. Some lose their sense of humour others exult in exuberant gallows humour. As the bombing died down, we were advised to remain in the bomb shelter for the rest of the night as there was the chance of further waves during the night. We soon set up a video and TV and watched some movies, a mixture of action and horror which I’m sure was totally inappropriate for some people in the grips of trauma. Some of us deepened our bonds that night but for Josephine and me,it was perhaps the beginning of the end, something changed in her through the whole experience.

We spoke often after about how uncanny the series of synchronicities that unfolded over that intense period of time were. How the strange dream with the mechanical eclipse foretold the coming eclipse that we didn’t know was about to occur. How the appearance of the terrorists in the dream after the eclipse mirrored our own experience on that fateful night. The Owl that had been stalking us since arriving in Betzit, continually vocalising an alarm, disappeared from the bombing night onwards, there was no more need to raise a warning. The attack was apparently in revenge for the killing of the Hamas official I spoke of earlier in the story.
Josephine unsurprisingly never felt comfortable after that experience and although we stayed a while longer, we cut our intended stay short and went to stay in Vienna, Austria. It was there a more fortuitist synchronicity would occur.

[SilentFeathers]

I told ya'all a couple days ago they'd put a face out there to be our new boogie man!

Ironically this new boogie man lives in luxury, of all places, in Qatar. This is unreal as Qatar is holding the 6 billion dollars promised to Iran that we've heard so much about this last week.

This whole ordeal is starting to look like a poorly written script for the sequel to 911....this video looks like a trailer of the new movie we all are about to see.

Who Leads Hamas? Ismail Haniyeh Emerges As The Public Face Of Israel Attack Despite Being In Qatar
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[shaberon]

Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which it is
said that when the messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole
world in their hands."

source: [2011] Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great

This is consistent with, if not right of, The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion, which I am currently rereading.


With respect to Zionism (https://swisscows.com/en/web?query=baruch+levy+letter+to+marx):


Nowhere in the writings of Karl Marx is there any mention of Baruch Levy and/or his alleged letter.


The Protocols are also a forgery.

First of all, the letter of Albert Pike to Mazzini was a hoax in the sense of trolling the gullible public. For fun and entertainment.

These are a bit more serious, because they are, in fact, political, but more in the sense of fear porn from British Fascism.

The simplest way to put it was by Josef Goebbels who knew a thing or two about propaganda. He said that Hitler believed the Protocols were literally true. Goebbels said they were true in character, but not in facts.


The difficulty is that what can be traced to Babylonian Captivity is the Torah itself. As an example, the Book of Genesis.

Pre-Captivity Hebrew lore would have been Psalms and a few Prophets.

Moving forward is not exactly Zionism, it is religion in the conventional sense.


This is from a longer article, but the reason for British co-intel is explained by the Ghost of Oliver Cromwell (https://blogs.mediapart.fr/nicholas-molodyko/blog/160920/ghost-oliver-cromwell):



In 1290 in England, King Edward l issued the “Edict of Expulsion” which banished Jews from the kingdom. This was not overturned until 1657, over 350 years later by Oliver Cromwell as Lord Protector. Cromwell's protectorate readmitted the Jews to England. Kind of a big deal. Also, a lot of people don't seem to realize Oliver Cromwell was financed by those Jews. The Jews were invited back to England by Cromwell when he needed money after the Civil War. While Cromwell’s weird Puritan fetish for Biblical Israel may have had something to do with it, in inviting back the Jews, Cromwell was mainly motivated by his determination to move the Amsterdam Jewish merchants to London to bolster England in her trade war with Portugal, Spain and the Netherlands, whose Jewish community was famed for its wealth, commercial know-how, and business contacts.


Flip of a switch. Same now as then.

In thinking of the more modern Fabian Society, this would also be correct as an upgrade, that is, formation of a shadow oligarchy via the London School of Economics.

This is right before Theodore Herzl whose article has been posted.

During the Nazi era concentration camps, there was a "solution" being worked in terms of deportation, which would have meant to multiple British and U. S. outlying territories such as the Virgin Islands. When the Zionists got wind of these plans, they turned around and said, oh, no, there is only one destination, Palestine. Understandably this infuriated Hitler.

Correspondingly you look in Ukraine and find a big chunk of the new immigrant population.


So far, in my view it seems like we are witnessing The End of British Israelism, not a special trick it does to become even more successful.

What happens to us in these countries, I am not sure, but it has been spoken of in the past tense since last year.


If it is the Roman plan, you will drop everything and run to Catholicism.

Because Rome still belongs to the Romans, it is less likely to self-destructively explode on the world stage like the Zionists.



In response to an Israeli Reprimand of his free speech, the President of Colombia (https://sputnikglobe.com/20231015/live-updates-red-cross-negotiating-with-israel-hamas-to-deliver-medicine-to-hostages-1114206311.html):


Later on Sunday, Petro said, commenting on the ambassador’s summon that Colombia could suspend relations with Israel if necessary.

"If we need to suspend foreign relations with Israel, we will suspend them. We do not support genocide," Petro said on X.


And Ekaterina Blinova (https://sputnikglobe.com/20231013/gaza-war-as-indicator-of-wests-crumbling-dominance--1114177752.html), a Russian columnist:



The Americans did a lot of things to prevent pacification in this area, not to mention the implementation of the 1947 UN Security Council decision on the creation of an Arab state in Palestine. Therefore, of course, this is a clear manifestation of the fact that there is no longer any Pax Americana, no unipolar world. And now the world is entering a new transition period, towards multipolarity, including through pain, blood and awakening conflicts.



Shift of influence? Fear porn not working so well??

[Bill Ryan]

An update re Hezbollah (in Lebanon) as of about 9 hours ago. (Things are developing quite quickly. If Hezbollah starts to attack Israel with full force then Israel will be fighting on two fronts.)

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/45365
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/45366
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/45374

The texts (combined)
Hezbollah said it attacked five Israeli army bases on the border with Lebanon, where the battle is currently taking place.
The IDF deployed artillery and AH-64 Apache attack helicopters. The infiltration of a DRG from Lebanese territory is reported.


Hezbollah shot up IDF cameras and sensors used to monitor the border.

Many Israeli officials are calling on the authorities to attack Hezbollah with full force.
According to Defense Secretary Gallant, Prime Minister Netanyahu is "hesitant."



CyberspecNews/45365
CyberspecNews/45366
CyberspecNews/45374

[Bill Ryan]

An update re Hezbollah (in Lebanon) as of about 9 hours ago. (Things are developing quite quickly. If Hezbollah starts to attack Israel with full force then Israel will be fighting on two fronts.)

And this seems relevant as well, regarding Israel fighting on two fronts. (Or possibly more, if Iran joins the conflict)

https://t.me/TheMediterraneanMan/1720

The text:
According to a leaked memo, as reported by this media outlet (https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2023/10/15/2971822/american-troops-do-not-want-to-sacrifice-their-lives-for-israel-exclusive), which I have confirmed through three individuals in US Military, the following is noted.
1) American Troops do not want to die for Israel.
2) CENTCOM was caught off-guard and does not have enough assets to support Israel in case of intervention or conflagration of a regional war
3) CENTCOM does not believe Israel will be able to handle a multi-front war.
TheMediterraneanMan/1720

[Rizotto]

The Mystery Of Israel - Solved? (Best Quality!)

https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/h/V/Y/v/hVYvn.caa.mp4


quote: "The film exposes something so nefarious, so evil, so mind-blowing that many will find it hard to believe. Yet it is true.

This film can deliver a fatal blow to the satanic elites, who want to establish a world government to enslave all of humanity.

The shocking secrets unveiled by this incredible documentary will shine a blazing light on those who have always been hiding behind the state of Israel.

Learn more secrets here: stopworldcontrol.com (https://www.stopworldcontrol.com)". unquote


source (https://rumble.com/v3p9613-the-mystery-of-israel-solved-incredibly-shocking.html)


Can't open the above link, don't know why. Here is the best link I found for this video, on Rumble, from 'stopworldcontrol' itself:
"The Mystery of Israel"

https://rumble.com/v3p9613-the-mystery-of-israel-solved-incredibly-shocking.html?fbclid=IwAR0YUlmdRKkVPfrjkTfuhcJ3fePOcesWTvkIsB-oq4waqPTgGhV-8tzAm3E

[Bill Ryan]

Look at this.

https://t.me/llordofwar/216882
Britain's The Times demonstrates new levels of manipulation and hypocrisy.
Headline: "Israel shows mutilated babies."
The caption under the photo in small print: "Palestinian children wounded in air strikes on Gaza City".

llordofwar/216882

[Bill Ryan]

And this seems pretty interesting.

https://t.me/llordofwar/218085

The text:

The most elite units of the American commandos arrived in Israel before the land incursion into Gaza!!!

llordofwar/218085

[Rizotto]

News from Egypt, which could play a key role in defusing the terrible Gaza situation:

Construction of Russian nuclear power plant in Egypt ahead of schedule – Putin
The president described the El-Dabaa facility as a flagship project in Africa
https://www.rt.com/africa/585038-russia-nuclear-power-plant-egypt/

and

Egypt HIGH ALERT as this is about to get much worse & Putin knows it | Redacted w Clayton Morris

"The Israel Palestinian war is at a tipping point moment and Egypt is on high alert for what happens next. While Israel readies a massive invasion of Gaza the Egyptian government is fighting off western media lies about Rafah border crossing. But there is a much game being played by globalists at the moment and we explore all angles in today's video. "


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUG9VmTHEo0

So, Egypt wants to join the BRICS... The world is shifting alright.

[norman]

China is warning Israel.

BRICS will most likely side with Palestine.


https://t.me/anon_fa_mous/4530
anon_fa_mous/4530

[Arcturian108]

Here is one Arab's perspective on Palestinians that dovetails with that astute Israeli's perspective on the historical context:
https://twitter.com/HumanDilemma_/status/1713887268501405957
(https://twitter.com/HumanDilemma_/status/1713887268501405957)1713887268501405957

[gini]

Here is one Arab's perspective on Palestinians that dovetails with that astute Israeli's perspective on the historical context:
https://twitter.com/HumanDilemma_/status/1713887268501405957

Its a call for hate;"burn them"he says..

[Gwin Ru]

...

... while in those internecine turbulent eddies, here is the other side of the coin:


Rabbi Feldman: "THE STATE OF ISRAEL DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL JEWS" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuTiOp9dw4Y) 01:29



Rabbi Shapiro; https://twitter.com/RTerriers/status/1711540082270708005 07:10



David Livingstone: Globalists & the Creation of the Wahhabi/Hamas Terrorism (https://henrymakow.com/000558.html)

[Michel Leclerc]

(...)

Why are you constantly trying to reduce my argument to 'its just about fairytales', yes that is one element, but my article was about so much more than that. For instance how terror is used to induce shock and trauma and how to maximise this effect. The focus on youth and sexuality. All very much psychological manipulations.

(...)



Thank you Dorjezigzag. You have a point. I apologise for having read your first contribution too cursorily. I imagine that what may have hurt you is my post almost starting with the words “your fairytale interpretation of such movies”, which was/is ambiguous yet not so intended. What I meant was not that your interpretation would be unreal ("fairytale") but simply that it is a Proppian interpretation – and that was in itself imprecise because Propp is about fairytales, but certainly and even more so about legends and myths.

I thank you for the personal story, and I intend to read it with my full attention.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's Alastair Crooke, a highly experienced and extremely aware former British diplomat, talking to Judge Napolitano an hour ago. He speaks calmly and slowly, without a trace of emotion, as if he's discussing what to have for lunch. But his demeanor is one of the very greatest gravity. He says:


There's no chance of any diplomacy stopping an Israeli ground invasion of Gaza. (But when Israel embarks on this, their difficulties and losses will be huge.)
What is happening right now in Gaza is definitively and indisputably an Israeli war crime.
Media coverage of all of this in the US is minimal compared with the extensive reporting in the rest of the world, and the huge wave of pro-Palestinian support this has generated.
After the war is over, which may take a while, Russia, China, Saudi Arabia and Iran will then apply great diplomatic pressure for a permanent solution to the longstanding Palestinian issue.
But the war is currently very unstable and unpredictable, and even small incidents could precipitate far larger ones. Hezbollah could enter the conflict with considerable force any day now. Anything could happen at all, at any time.

He also said, re Ukraine:


The war is effectively over.
Zelensky will be moved aside to live in exile somewhere, and all that will happen quite soon.

Can Diplomacy Save the Middle East?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5hpJZ2uNRc

[SilentFeathers]

Here's Alastair Crooke, a highly experienced and extremely aware former British diplomat, talking to Judge Napolitano an hour ago. He speaks calmly and slowly, without a trace of emotion, as if he's discussing what to have for lunch. But his demeanor is one of the very greatest gravity. He says:


There's no chance of any diplomacy stopping an Israeli ground invasion of Gaza. (But when Israel embarks on this, their difficulties and losses will be huge.)
What is happening right now in Gaza is definitively and indisputably an Israeli war crime.
Media coverage of all of this in the US is minimal compared with the extensive reporting in the rest of the world, and the huge wave of pro-Palestinian support this has generated.
After the war is over, which may take a while, Russia, China, Saudi Arabia and Iran will then apply great diplomatic pressure for a permanent solution to the longstanding Palestinian issue.
But the war is currently very unstable and unpredictable, and even small incidents could precipitate far larger ones. Hezbollah could enter the conflict with considerable force any day now. Anything could happen at all, at any time.

He also said, re Ukraine:


The war is effectively over.
Zelensky will be moved aside to live in exile somewhere, and all that will happen quite soon.

Can Diplomacy Save the Middle East?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5hpJZ2uNRc

It's interesting what he says about Zelinsky and Ukraine. I tend to mostly agree with him, but, that's a whole different thread topic. ;)

As for Israel, there is no turning back in my opinion. Which means they will invade, and this will almost certainly spiral out of control throughout the whole Middle East (and elsewhere).

Anything is possible and no one can predict how this will play out. Something does feel a little different today though. I sense certain deals are being made, regardless, it's gonna get worse before it gets better in my opinion.

[Dorjezigzag]

(...)

Why are you constantly trying to reduce my argument to 'its just about fairytales', yes that is one element, but my article was about so much more than that. For instance how terror is used to induce shock and trauma and how to maximise this effect. The focus on youth and sexuality. All very much psychological manipulations.

(...)



Thank you Dorjezigzag. You have a point. I apologise for having read your first contribution too cursorily. I imagine that what may have hurt you is my post almost starting with the words “your fairytale interpretation of such movies”, which was/is ambiguous yet not so intended. What I meant was not that your interpretation would be unreal ("fairytale") but simply that it is a Proppian interpretation – and that was in itself imprecise because Propp is about fairytales, but certainly and even more so about legends and myths.

I thank you for the personal story, and I intend to read it with my full attention.

Thank you for those kind words, it certainly takes some tension from our interactions. I have the feeling we have a very different perspective on the world but let us try and be respectful and appreciate one another's viewpoints. In life, we often encounter situations that aren't simply black and white, where clear distinctions between right and wrong may not apply. Instead, it becomes a matter of making choices or paths between two or more alternatives—sometimes, it's a matter of either/or.

The article was not meant to be an academic paper; its intention was to be accessible, even for the age group that will be most affected by these events. While it's true that the points could be expanded in various areas with reference to various psychologists, that might limit its potential audience.

I'd like to clarify that just because I mentioned Propp in our interactions it doesn't mean he's the sole influence on my article. The psychologist I find most relevant to what I'm trying to communicate is Carl Jung, particularly in his concepts of archetypes (https://www.thoughtco.com/archetypes-of-the-heros-journey-31346) and the shadow. These young adults, who are in the process of forming their personalities and sense of individuation, may be unwittingly guided on a twisted hero's journey, led down a certain path by a narrative constructed around them. In this context, the shadow that should be faced is the monster within themselves but this is projected onto others, in this case Hamas terrorists. Conversely, for Hamas, it is projected onto the Israeli people.

I shared that personal true story to illustrate how I have eperienced the world of dreams and myths being closely connected with reality. Extreme trauma often blurs the boundary between the conscious and unconscious worlds. It's essential to understand that while trauma affects us from the past, it can also reverberate back from the future. When I discuss these issues, it's not from the perspective of someone solely viewing them through the disconnected lens of a camera or the pages of a fairy tale. As I mentioned in the story, life sometimes blurs the boundaries between the dream world and the waking world. We start to perceive faint patterns and structures that connect ancient myths and fairy tales.

The authorities that manipulate our lives are keenly aware of these unconscious patterns; this is occult knowledge. They're pulling strings that most people aren't even aware of, which makes it even more crucial to understand the psychological aspects at play in the narratives we're exposed to.

[jaybee]

/dKFsPsjnPpMf/. David Sorensen, 14 oktober 2023. 60 min.

'This film reveals something so nefarious, so evil, so baffling that many will find it hard to believe. It's still true.
This film could deliver a fatal blow to the satanic elites who want to establish a world government to enslave all of humanity.

The shocking secrets revealed by this incredible documentary will shine a bright light on those who have always hid behind the State of Israel and Hamas.'


Thanks.... I think something that's very relevant to what's happening in Israel and Gaza at the moment and an important piece of the Big Picture is what the presenter says @37 minutes - when referring to the Global Elite

'..........their ultimate goal is to set up a One World Government - global governance - and they want the headquarters to be in Jerusalem - and this has an ancient spiritual reason ......................they specifically want Jerusalem to be their headquarters.....'

I think in preparation they basically want the Gaza Strip gone - and this is the operation to do it - - regardless of the risk of inflaming the whole region and possible World War - -

[Vicus]

Israeli President Says There Are No Innocent Civilians in Gaza

saac Herzog says: 'It is not true this rhetoric about civilians not being aware, not involved'

Israeli President Isaac Herzog said Friday that civilians in Gaza bear responsibility for the Hamas attack on southern Israel as Israeli bombs are killing scores of people in the besieged enclave.

“It is an entire nation out there that is responsible,” Herzog said, referring to Gaza, which is not recognized as an independent nation. “It is not true this rhetoric about civilians not being aware, not involved. It’s absolutely not true.”

Herzog claimed that civilians in Gaza “could have risen up. They could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d’etat.”

Proponents of the collective punishment of Gaza often claim the civilians living in the enclave elected Hamas. But the last time Gazans participated in elections was in 2006, and many of the enclave’s current citizens were not at voting age or even alive at the time, as about half of Gaza’s 2.3 million residents are children.

Hamas’ party won the 2006 elections, but a government was not formed based on the results. After the elections, fighting broke out between Hamas and the rival Fatah party, which was encouraged and backed by the George W. Bush administration. The fighting led to Hamas taking power as the de facto governing body in Gaza in 2007.

The Hamas takeover was used to justify the Israeli blockade on Gaza that started in 2007 and is still in effect today, giving Israel the power to impose a “complete siege” on the enclave in the wake of the October 7 Hamas attack on southern Israel.

Since the Hamas attack was launched, Israeli airstrikes have killed at least 2,450 Palestinians in Gaza, according to the Palestinian Health Ministry. The number includes 724 children and 458 women.

https://news.antiwar.com/2023/10/15/israeli-president-says-theres-no-innocent-civilians-in-gaza/

[Bill Ryan]

Astonishingly (or maybe not so!), this new piece, published on 12 October by Seymour Hersh, is a little hard to find. Here it is, copied in full for the record. :thumbsup: It features testimony from 'a veteran of Israel’s national security apparatus with inside knowledge of recent happenings'.

https://johnmenadue.com/netanyahu-is-finished

Netanyahu is finished

Decades ago I spent three years writing The Samson Option (https://substack.com/redirect/71f8ab62-f103-489a-93d0-34d89a8540ca?j=eyJ1IjoiMXNxaHltIn0.hhllisJZa9WonRQtwSpvzKa9OA1iwTL4nVfpq22XSgw) (1991), an exposé of the unstated policy of American presidents going back to Dwight Eisenhower to look the other way as Israel began the process of building an atomic bomb. The right or wrong for Israel, in the aftermath of the Holocaust, was not the point of the book. My point was that what America was doing was known throughout the Third World, as it was then called, and our duplicity made our worries about the spread of nuclear weapons another example of American hypocrisy. Since then others have undertaken far more comprehensive studies, as some of the most highly classified Israeli and US documents have become public.

I chose not to go to Israel to do my research in fear of running afoul of Israeli national security law. But I found Israelis living abroad who had worked on the secret project and were willing to talk to me once I indicated I had information from American intelligence files. Those who worked on such highly classified materials have remained loyal to Israel, and a few of them became lifelong friends of mine. They have also remained in close touch with former colleagues who stayed in Israel.

This is an account of the past week’s horrific events in Israel, as seen by a veteran of Israel’s national security apparatus with inside knowledge of recent happenings.

The most important thing I needed to understand, the Israeli insider told me, is that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “is finished. He is a walking dead man. He will stay in office only until the shooting stops . . . maybe another month or two.” He served as prime minister from 1996 until 1999 and again, as leader of the right-wing Likud Party, from 2009 to 2021, returning for a third stint in late 2022. “Bibi was always opposed to the 1993 Oslo Accords,” the insider said, which initially gave the Palestinian Authority nominal control over both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. When he returned to office in 2009, the insider said, “Bibi chose to support Hamas” as an alternative to the Palestinian Authority, “and gave them money and established them in Gaza.”

An arrangement was made with Qatar, which began sending hundreds of millions of dollars to the Hamas leadership with Israeli approval. The insider told me that “Bibi was convinced that he would have more control over Hamas with the Qatari money—let them occasionally fire rockets into southern Israel and have access to jobs inside Israel—than he would with the Palestinian Authority. He took that risk.

“What happened this week,” the insider said, “was a result of the Bibi doctrine that you could create a Frankenstein and have control over it.” The attack by Hamas was a direct result of a decision Bibi made, over the protest of local military commanders, “to allow a group of Orthodox settlers to celebrate Sukkot in the West Bank.” Sukkot is an annual fall holiday that commemorates the ancestral journey of Jews into the depths of the desert. It is a weeklong festival that is observed by building an outdoor temporary structure known as a sukkah in which all could share the food that their predecessors ate and viscerally connect to the harvest season.

The request came at a time of extreme tension over another West Bank incident in which Jewish settlers, according to the Associated Press, “rampaged through a flashpoint town” on October 6 and killed a 19-year-old Arab male. The youth’s death, the AP report added, “marked the latest in a surge in Israeli-Palestinian fighting that so far has killed nearly 200 Palestinians this year—the highest yearly death toll in about two decades.”

The Sukkot celebration, held near a Palestinian village known in Hebrew as Haware, would need extraordinary protection, given the tension over the latest violence, and the local Israeli military authorities, with the approval of Netanyahu, ordered two of the three Army battalions, each with about 800 soldiers, that protected the border with Gaza to shift their focus to the Sukkot festival.

“That left only eight hundred soldiers,” the insider told me, “to be responsible for guarding the 51-kilometre border between the Gaza Strip and southern Israel. That meant the Israeli citizens in the south were left without an Israeli military presence for ten to twelve hours. They were left to fend for themselves. And that is why Bibi is finished. May take a few months, but he is over.”

The insider called the attack in southern Israel “the great military failure in Israeli history” and pointed out that “only soldiers were killed in the ’73 war” — the surprise attack on Yom Kippur in which Israel was briefly overrun by Egyptian and Syrian troops. “Last Saturday twenty-two settlements in the south were under control of Hamas for hours, and they went house to house slaughtering women and children.”

There will be a military response, the insider said, noting that 360,000 reservists have been called up. “There is a big debate going on about strategy. The Israeli Air Force and Navy special forces are ready to go, but Bibi and the military leadership have always favored the high-tech services. The regular army has been used primarily as security guards in the West Bank. . . . The reality is that the ground forces are not trained for combat. Don’t misunderstand — there is confidence in the spirit of the troops but not in their ability to succeed in the ‘special situation’ that the soldiers would be facing in a ground assault” in the ruins of heavily bombed Gaza City.

The reservists are now undergoing crash training and a decision of what to do may come by the end of this week, the insider said. Meanwhile, the current bombing of civilian targets — apartment buildings, hospitals, and mosques — no longer includes a token civilian safeguard. In prior attacks in Gaza City, he said, the Israeli Air Force often would drop a small bomb on the roof of a civilian facility to be targeted — it was called “a knock on the roof” — that would theoretically alert noncombatants to flee the building. That is not happening in the current round-the-clock bombing raids.

As for a ground attack, the insider told me that there is a brutal alternative under consideration that could be described as the Leningrad approach, referring to the famed German effort to starve out the city now known as St. Petersburg during World War II. The Nazi siege lasted nearly 900 days and the death toll was at least 800,000 and possibly many more. It is known that the Hamas leadership and much of its manpower “live underground,” and Israel’s goal is to destroy as much of that manpower “without attempting a traditional house-to-house attack.”

The insider added that some Israelis were “made anxious” by the initial statements from world leaders in Germany, France, and England who avowed, in one case through an aide, their total support for an immediate response but added that it should be guided by the rule of law. President Biden reinforced that point in an unscheduled appearance at a White House conference of Jewish leaders Wednesday by pointedly saying that he had recently told Netanyahu: “it is really important that Israel, with all the anger and frustration and just — I don’t know how to explain it — that exists is that they operate by the rules of war — the rules of war. And there are rules of war.”

The option now under consideration, the Israeli insider told me, is to continue the isolation of Gaza City in terms of power supply and the delivery of food and other vital goods. “Hamas now only has a two- or three-day supply of purified water and that, along with a lack of food,” I was told, “may be enough to flush all the Hamas out.” At some point, he said, Israel may be able to negotiate the release of some prisoners — women and children — in return for food and water.

“The big debate today,” he said, “is whether to starve Hamas out or kill as many as 100,000 people in Gaza. One Israeli assumption is that Hamas, which has received as much as $1.6 billion from Qatar since 2014, wants to be seen as a sovereign that takes care of its people. He went on: “Now that President Biden says they are a terrorist state, Hamas may have reason to want to be seen as less hostile and there might be a chance for calm and rational discussion about prisoners—and a release of some of its Israeli hostages, beginning with women and children.” The other prisoners will be treated like prisoners of war, he said, and their release could be negotiated, as has happened in the past.

But, the insider added, “the more we all see” of Hamas brutality on TV and “the more Hamas is seen as another ISIS, time gets short.”

The reality, he said, is that Hamas is not rational and is incapable of any negotiations, and Qatar will not intervene. And, barring some international or third-party intervention, there may be a general ground invasion with untold deaths to all sides and to all prisoners.

The decision to invade in full force is Israel’s, and it has not yet been made.

[Vicus]

Why's the Only Available Checkpoint to Gaza Still Closed? 19 minutes ago (Updated: 18 minutes ago)

Gaza's residents are in urgent need of humanitarian aid deliveries, but it is still impossible. The only available checkpoint to Gaza is closed, despite agreements on its opening today.

As the humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip deepens, with food, fuel and water running short, humanitarian aid from several countries has been held up in Egypt pending a deal for its safe delivery to Gaza and the evacuation of some foreign passport holders through the Rafah border crossing. According to the UN, fuel reserves at all hospitals across the enclave are expected to last for about an additional 24 hours.
On Monday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office stated that there was no truce for humanitarian aid to Gaza in exchange for getting foreigners out.

https://cdn1.img.sputnikglobe.com/images/07e7/0a/10/1114236908.jpg

The international community has repeatedly requested that Israeli officials open 'safe corridors' for Gaza residents. On Sunday, the IDF officially announced the opening of an evacuation corridor from northern part of Gaza to the southern area. Simultaneously, UN Secretary-General Guterres appealed to Hamas to grant “unimpeded access for humanitarian aid” into the Gaza Strip and to immediately release all hostages. However, Israel refused to allow humanitarian cargo to enter the enclave.
How can the humanitarian aid enter the Gaza Strip now and what are the positions of Israel, Palestine and Egypt on the matter? Sputnik tried to find the answers.
https://t.me/geopolitics_live/7606

Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh: Israel gearing up to flatten Gaza, wants Egypt, Qatar to handle refugees

Once the civilian population of the Gaza Strip gets evicted, Israel intends to launch a full-scale bombing campaign that would result in the destruction of the city, if Hersh’s revelations are to be believed.

First, the Israeli Air Force would wipe out the “remaining structures in Gaza City.” Then, Israeli aircraft would start dropping US-made 5,000-pound bunker buster bombs in the “flattened areas” of the Gaza Strip in order to destroy the Hamas’ underground facilities hidden deep beneath the enclave.

An Israeli insider told Hersh that the “current Israeli war planners” believe such munitions – “upgraded version of JDAMs (Joint Direct Attack Munitions) with larger warheads” – would be able to penetrate up to 50 meters deep before exploding and “killing all within one-half mile.”

Meanwhile, a former European intelligence official told Hersh that Hamas’ tunnels are situated so deep underground they can withstand the attacks with JDAMs.

What's the Problem With the Checkpoints?
There were only three checkpoints available to exit the Gaza Strip: Erez and Kerem Shalom to Israel and Rafah to Egypt.
The first one, Erez, was situated in the northern border from Gaza to Israel, worked exclusively to let people go through and was completely destroyed during Hamas' sneak attack on southern Israel on October 7. The same fate befell Kerem Shalom, the second checkpoint on that ominous morning - which was the only one that allowed all large cargo to enter Gaza, because of the economic blockade that Israel had imposed on the Gaza Strip under Hamas rule in 2007. For now, only the Rafah checkpoint to Egypt is available for operation, but the situation at the crossing remains unclear.

continue:
https://sputnikglobe.com/20231016/putin-slams-nato-over-eastward-expansion-as-alliance-launches-nuclear-drills-in-europe-1114222049.html

[Agape]

...

... while in those internecine turbulent eddies, here is the other side of the coin:


Rabbi Feldman: "THE STATE OF ISRAEL DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL JEWS" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuTiOp9dw4Y) 01:29



Rabbi Shapiro; https://twitter.com/RTerriers/status/1711540082270708005 07:10



David Livingstone: Globalists & the Creation of the Wahhabi/Hamas Terrorism (https://henrymakow.com/000558.html)



I feel this is the core issue. Even within today’s Israel , the senior orthodox Jewish community ( aka Haredi , Chasidim etc.) do not support secular State of Israel ,
they reject and mostly resist military conscription ,
( as most of all of us - spiritual entities worldwide anyway),

and would dissolve the current “State of Israel” as we know it
in favour of larger religious state of Palestine that would be optimally open to all tribes and people of all faiths who could well live along
as they did in the area for several thousands of years.

Is it “surprising” that today’s secular state of Israel
looks down at its own orthodox elders who preach
peace and non violence and devote their lives to study
as “primitives”?

It’s true that majority of today’s young populace of Israel are not “religious” compared to the generations of their forefathers , they use the country as “proxy” in my sober opinion as the amount of money flowing through takes them high above everyone’s else’s economical situations , at the same time front research in countless science fields moves them ahead to future ,
at cost of ignoring the rest of all of us.


Hope I won’t sound too awkward in my observation if I say what I see around, at least half of the younger population are very fair or straight “blond”,
of all types of northern ancestry ( which makes one ask even simple question on how would such people survive in desert for very long time without AC,
without the perfect bottled water, kosher meals and vitamins supplements they are used to ),
making them “modern Israelites” but much less of , “ancestral Jews”

and so forth.

I wanted to say something about this before the forum went to “emergency mode”, my post never passed through ,
thanks to the “AI”.

In the face of current atrocities on both sides of the fence I feel I can not possibly come up with educated opinion ,

but hatred and hate crimes towards parts of humanity who are not as privileged - yes privileged - than some should come under inspection of our common humane sense of understanding.


The 12 tribes of Israel themselves were “migrants” by today’s terms who took over Jerusalem by trick and force in order to establish their Zion , the first temple and so forth.
This area was densely inhabited by many tribes for thousands of years of recorded ( archeological ) history, serving many traders and pilgrims between continents.

It was relatively safe from Pharaonic Egypt ( especially after the sea has parted ..)
and possibly as far as those people were likely “willing to go” under the command of Moses.
Should they have not given in immediately they might have found their own unique place empty of inhabitants ( such certainly did exist in the Old World) where they would not have to fight or genocide local populace.

Speculation on my side of course but it’s not likely that Moses was given a map or coordinates of the promised land, he was only shown the escape route.

How unfortunate ..that no other solution has ever been found for the faithful
and the gifted other than “eternal war”?

So how much do our Peace prayers resonate with “those people”
of today who live shielded by wisdom of their Elders

but view it as matter of minor importance , in fact ?

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[grapevine]

In 2017, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) collected objects from two cities in Iraq, Baiji and Ramadi. These ordinary, everyday objects – such as this Teddy – bear witness to the impact of war and the suffering of civilians. Each holds a memory of its owner or user: we wonder who they belonged to and what these people were doing when war forced them to flee. They make us aware of all the different people who are affected, from children to the elderly, and all the areas of life that are disrupted. These are the voices of the millions of civilians affected by armed conflict and they remind us why respect for the rules of war is so essential.

This is particularly poignant as nearly half of Gaza's population is under the age of 18

https://www.redcross.org.uk/-/media/feature/projectred/16x9/aaa-stories-and-other/geneva-iraq-teddy.jpg?sc_lang=en&h=720&w=540&la=en&hash=F3E968159F8A3D5F9C3DDCE686FD0205

[shaberon]

As they fall off the face of the earth:


Colombia expels Israeli ambassador, affirms will not accept genocide in Gaza



America (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1936915) enters the fight:

A US landlord was charged with murder and hate crimes Sunday after allegedly stabbing a Muslim woman and six-year-old boy dozens of times in an attack that police linked to the Zionist war on Gaza.

The child, who was stabbed 26 times, died at hospital, but the 32-year-old woman, believed to be his mother, is expected to survive the “heinous” Saturday attack, according to a statement from the Will County sheriff’s office in Illinois.

“Detectives were able to determine that both victims in this brutal attack were targeted by the culprit due to them being Muslim and the on-going Middle Eastern conflict involving Hamas and the Israelis,” said the statement, which located the killing about 40 miles (64 kilometers) west of Chicago.

https://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2023/10/manar-02385390016974569929.png

[shaberon]

Plausible denial (https://tass.com/world/1691663):


Director of Israel’s Security Agency Ronen Bar has taken responsibility for the body’s failure to predict the October 7 Hamas attack on the country's territory, he stated in a letter, excerpts of which are quoted by the Ynet portal.

"As the person who runs the organization, [I acknowledge]: the responsibility is on me," he wrote.



That way you can ignore the four years (https://tass.com/world/1691417) of preparation by Hamas openly and publicly, and, which Israelis actually helped it.

Ultimately, yes, it is his responsibility, and, realistically, he probably could not have known or done anything. But makes a good scapegoat.

[Michel Leclerc]

Here is one Arab's perspective on Palestinians that dovetails with that astute Israeli's perspective on the historical context:
https://twitter.com/HumanDilemma_/status/1713887268501405957
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Charming. Burn.. Where have I heard that before? This person is being served well. White phosphorus (phôs-phoros = Luci-fer) has already started raining down on the Palestinian leftovers.

[Kryztian]

A superb video by Abby Martin made seven years ago but has yet to be posted to the forum. It packs a lot of history into 22 minutes.

I have yet to use the words "ethnic cleansing" to describe the way the Palestinians have been treated by Zionists in the last nine decades, but after watching this video, it should seems like a fair and descriptive term for what has been happening, at least in the 1930s and 1940s.

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[gini]

9jBgGY2Ww9Q--22 min-685,569 views Oct 17, 2023 #piersmorgan #mohammedhijab #palestine
Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by YouTuber and pro-Palestinian Mohammed Hijab for a lively debate on the historic conflict between Israel and Palestine and whether the terrorist attacks committed by Hamas warrant the level of response by Israel and whether the IDF should be labelled as 'terrorists' too for the mass killing of civilians during the bombing of Gaza.

Mohammed makes the point that it is impossible to defend Israel's actions as 'defending themselves' when they are the occupiers of Palestinian territory. Mohammed also adds that 'flattening out' Gaza with carpet bombing is an irrational response to try and get rid of Hamas fighters when he believes they have the capabilities to go into Gaza and surgically remove and target them.