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Michel Leclerc
23rd October 2023, 20:55
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Peace and love. This is what all human beings living in Israel, Palestine and throughout the world need. :heart2:
Sweet. The caption reads: “Coming from Sint-Joost-ten-Node” (in Dutch, and in French Saint-Josse-ten-Noode, meaning “the Holy Just one in where Need is”), the Brussels commune where I lived since 2000 before moving to France. About 50,000 inhabitants, more than 150 languages spoken, all religions present, no friction, no quarrels (or almost: once a skirmish between Turks and Kurds), just a healthy lot of children and excellent food shops and markets. Non-violent “multiculturalism” exists: it is a crowded neighbourhood (commune) in the centre of Brussels.
SilentFeathers
23rd October 2023, 21:11
2 more hostages released.
Video shows released two Israeli hostages
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Bill Ryan
23rd October 2023, 23:35
It's long been argued, often very persuasively, that Alex Jones has ties to Israel that control him.
Now we know.
https://t.me/rtnews/50127
The text: (but you have to listen to this if you can)
‘Level northern Gaza’: Controversial commentator Alex Jones details how he would deal with the Israel-Hamas conflict.
rtnews/50127
shaberon
24th October 2023, 00:39
It's long been argued, often very persuasively, that Alex Jones has ties to Israel that control him.
Fist-in-glove with the defense industry and legion of disinformation.
The giveaway was that during early research into the Pilgrims' Society was that this argumentative, loud person fell dead silent.
shaberon
24th October 2023, 00:49
About 50,000 inhabitants, more than 150 languages spoken, all religions present, no friction, no quarrels (or almost: once a skirmish between Turks and Kurds), just a healthy lot of children and excellent food shops and markets. Non-violent “multiculturalism” exists: it is a crowded neighbourhood (commune) in the centre of Brussels.
That sounds important.
Even the partly-educated among us would guess the place was named for St. Justin the Martyr or something like that, but, it sounds like this just means plain old Justice, which is a huge difference.
Sounds less messy than Freetown Christiana.
Let me make a new guess, the European Union that would like to pose the official "we stand with Israel", claims this group as its inspiration and success, inverting the message.
Brian Miles Kobernuss
24th October 2023, 01:13
ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD | Israel/Palestine | Hebrew & Arabic | 83" | 2013 (Documentary Film)
Former West Bank settler Lia Tarachansky looks at Israelis’ collective amnesia of the fateful events of 1948 when the state of Israel was born and most of the Palestinians became refugees. She follows the transformation of Israeli veterans trying uncover their denial of the war that changed the region forever.
Tarachansky then turns the camera on herself and travels back to her settlement where that historical erasure gave birth to a new generation, blind and isolated from its surroundings. Attempting to shed a light on the country’s biggest taboo, she is met with outrage and violence.
I've added the link to the video, which is on Vimeo (1hr 23 mins)
https://vimeo.com/117772052
(https://vimeo.com/117772052)
https://vimeo.com/117772052
Just finished watching this and wanted to give a thanks by posting a couple outtakes from the film that struck me particularly strongly -
https://mega.nz/file/B7VD1CRQ#dO6m5qwniumpJ9ERwvlJStPMlpNJFtakM6-h5eEFGM8
"Before 48 we were all together. Jewish and Muslims, living together. Even my grandfather, he was telling me the stories. That we were all together, sharing everything together. If somebody need help from the Jewish, we give him help. So what's happened is the zionists came and destroyed everything. So, we are not saying that the Jewish is bad or that we don't want to live with them - no way! No way. We just want to come back to our lands" - Khalil Abu Hamdeh
Kryztian
24th October 2023, 01:43
From the former New York Times Middle East Bureau Chief -
Chris Hedges: Israel’s Culture of Deceit
October 18, 2023
https://scheerpost.com/2023/10/18/chris-hedges-israels-culture-of-deceit/
Israel, which always seeks to blame Palestinians for the atrocities it carries out, is the least trustworthy source about the bombing of the hospital in Gaza.
By Chris Hedges / Original to ScheerPost
Israel was founded on lies. The lie that Palestinian land was largely unoccupied. The lie that 750,000 Palestinians fled their homes and villages during their ethnic cleansing by Zionist militias in 1948 because they were told to do so by Arab leaders. The lie that it was Arab armies that started the 1948 war that saw Israel seize 78 percent of historic Palestine. The lie that Israel faced annihilation in 1967, forcing it to invade and occupy the remaining 22 percent of Palestine, as well as land belonging to Egypt and Syria.
Israel is sustained by lies. The lie that Israel wants a just and equitable peace and will support a Palestinian state. The lie that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. The lie that Israel is an “outpost of Western civilization in a sea of barbarism.” The lie that Israel respects the rule of law and human rights.
Israel’s atrocities against the Palestinians are always greeted with lies. I heard them. I recorded them. I published them in my stories for The New York Times when I was the paper’s Middle East Bureau Chief.
I covered war for two decades, including seven years in the Middle East. I learned quite a bit about the size and lethality of explosive devices. There is nothing in the arsenal of Hamas or Islamic Jihad that could have replicated the massive explosive power of the missile that killed an estimated 500 civilians in the al-Ahli Arab Christian hospital in Gaza. Nothing. If Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) had these kinds of missiles, huge buildings in Israel would be rubble with hundreds of dead. They don’t.
The whistling sound, audible on the video moments before the explosion, appears to comes from the high velocity of a missile. This sound gives it away. No Palestinian rocket makes this noise. And then there is the speed of the missile. Palestinian rockets are slow and lumbering, clearly visible as they arch in the sky and then tumble in free fall towards their targets. They do not strike with precision or travel at close to supersonic speed. They are incapable of killing hundreds of people.
The Israeli military dropped “roof knocking” rockets with no warheads on the hospital in the days leading up to the Oct. 17 strike, the familiar warning given by Israel to evacuate buildings, according to al-Ahli hospital officials. Hospital officials also said they had received calls from Israel saying “we warned you to evacuate twice.” Israel has demanded that all hospitals in northern Gaza be evacuated.
Following the strike on the hospital, Hananya Naftali, a “digital aide” to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, posted on X, formerly Twitter: “Israeli Air Force struck a Hamas terrorist base inside a hospital in Gaza.” The post was quickly deleted.
Since the Oct. 7 incursion into Israel by Palestinian resistance fighters, which reportedly left some 1,300 Israelis dead, many of them civilians, and saw some 200 kidnapped as hostages and taken to Gaza, Israel has carried out 51 attacks on healthcare facilities in Gaza that have killed 15 healthcare workers and injured 27, according to the World Health Organization (WHO). Out of 35 hospitals in Gaza, four are not functioning due to severe damage and targeting. Only eight of the 22 UNRWA primary healthcare centers are “partially functional,” the WHO says.
The brazenness of Israeli lies stunned those of us who reported from Gaza. It did not matter if we had seen the Israeli attack, including the shooting of unarmed Palestinians. It did not matter how many witnesses we interviewed. It did not matter what photographic and forensic evidence we obtained. Israel lied. Small lies. Big lies. Huge lies. These lies came reflexively and instantly from the Israeli military, Israeli politicians and Israeli media. They were amplified by Israel’s well-oiled propaganda machine and repeated with a cloying sincerity on international news outlets.
Israel engages in the kinds of jaw-dropping lies that characterize despotic regimes. It does not deform the truth, it inverts it. It paints a picture that is diametrically opposed to reality. Those of us who have covered the occupied territories have run into Israel’s Alice-in-Wonderland narratives, which we dutifully insert into our stories — required under the rules of American journalism — although we know they are untrue.
Israel has invented an Orwellian lexicon. Children killed by Israelis become children caught in crossfire. The bombing of residential districts, with dozens of dead and wounded, becomes a surgical strike on a bomb-making factory. The destruction of Palestinian homes becomes the demolition of the homes of terrorists.
The Big Lie — Große Lüge — feeds the two reactions Israel seeks to elicit — racism among its supporters and terror among its victims. The Big Lies fosters the myth of a clash of civilizations, a war between democracy, decency and honor on one side and Islamic terrorism, barbarism and medievalism on the other.
George Orwell in his novel “Nineteen Eighty-Four” called the Big Lie “doublethink”. Doublethink uses “logic against logic” and “repudiate[s] morality while laying claim to it.” The Big Lie abolishes nuances, ambiguities and contradictions that can plague conscience. It is designed to create cognitive dissonance. It permits no gray zones. The world is black and white, good and evil, righteous and unrighteous. The Big Lie allows believers to take comfort — a comfort they are desperately seeking — in their own moral superiority even as they abrogate all morality. It feeds, what Edward Bernays called, the “logic-proof compartment of dogmatic adherence.” All effective propaganda, Bernays writes, targets and builds upon these irrational “psychological habits.”
Israeli supporters thirst for these lies. They do not want to know the truth. The truth would force them to examine their racism, self-delusion and complicity in oppression, murder and genocide.
Most importantly, the Big Lie sends an ominous message to the Palestinians. The Big Lie states that Israel will wage a campaign of mass terror and genocide and never take responsibility for its crimes. The Big Lie obliterates the truth. It obliterates the dignity of human thought and human action. It obliterates facts. It obliterates history. It obliterates comprehension. It obliterates hope. It reduces all communication to the language of violence. When oppressors speak to the oppressed exclusively through indiscriminate violence, the oppressed answer through indiscriminate violence.
The cartoonist Joe Sacco and I watched Israeli soldiers taunt and shoot small boys in the Khan Younis refugee camp in Gaza. We interviewed the boys and their parents afterwards in the hospital. In a few cases we attended their funerals. We had their names. We had the dates and locations of the shootings.
Israel’s response was to say that we were not in Gaza. We had made it up.
The Israeli Prime Minister, Foreign Minister, Defense Minister and Israeli Defense Force (IDF) spokesperson immediately blamed the killing of the Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh in 2022, on Palestinian gunmen. Israel disseminated footage of a Palestinian fighter they said shot and killed the journalist, who was wearing a flak jacket and helmet marked “PRESS.”
Benny Gantz, who was at the time Defense Minister, stated that “no [Israeli] gunfire was directed at the journalist,” and that the Israeli army had “seen footage of indiscriminate shooting by Palestinian terrorists”.
This lie was peddled until video footage examined by B’Tselem, The Israeli Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, identified the location of the Palestinian gunman depicted in the video. The video, the human rights organization found, was taken in a different location from where Shireen was killed.
When Israel is caught lying, as it was with the murder of Shireen, it promises an investigation. But these investigations are a sham. Impartial investigations into the hundreds of killings by soldiers and Jewish settlers of Palestinians are rarely carried out. Perpetrators are almost never brought to trial or held accountable. The pattern of Israeli obfuscation is predictable. So is the collusion of nearly all of the corporate media along with Republican and Democratic politicians. U.S. politicians decried the murder of Shireen and dutifully repeated the old mantra, calling for a “thorough investigation” by the army that carried out the crime.
A few months later, Israel admitted that there was a “high possibility” that an Israeli soldier killed the journalist by accident, but by then the eruption of street protests and rage over the killing of the journalist was over and her murder largely forgotten.
By the time the conclusive proof comes out about the bombing of the hospital, it too will be a distant memory.
There is dramatic footage captured in September 2000 at the Netzarim junction in the Gaza Strip — where I saw a nineteen-year-old boy shot and killed by an Israeli sniper — by France 2 TV, of a father trying to shield his traumatized 12-year-old son, Muhammad al-Durrah, from Israeli gunfire that ultimately killed him.
The killing of the boy resulted in the typical propaganda campaign by Israel. Israeli officials spent years lying about the killing, first blaming the Palestinians for the shooting, later suggesting that the scene was faked, and finally insisting the boy was still alive.
When an Israeli soldier, in 2003, murdered the 23-year-old student and American activist Rachel Corrie, by crushing her to death with a bulldozer as she tried to prevent the illegal demolition of a Palestinian doctor’s home, the Israeli army said it was an accident for which Corrie was responsible.
The Israeli military has killed “at least” 20 journalists since 2001, with no accountability, according to a 2023 report by the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists. “Immediately after a journalist is killed by security forces, Israeli officials often push out a counter narrative to media reporting,” the CPJ concluded. This includes blaming the deaths on “indiscriminate fire” by Palestinians or attempts to discredit those killed as “terrorists.”
Israel blocks the work of independent human rights organizations into atrocities and war crimes it commits in Gaza and the West Bank. It refuses to cooperate with the International Criminal Court into possible war crimes in the Occupied Territories. It does not cooperate with the U.N. Human Rights Council and prohibits the U.N. Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967, from entering the country. Israel revoked the work permit for Omar Shakir, the Director of Human Rights Watch (Israel and Palestine), in 2018 and expelled him. In May 2018, Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs and Public Diplomacy published a report calling on the European Union and European states to halt their direct and indirect financial support and funding to Palestinian and international human rights organizations that “have ties to terror and promote boycotts against Israel.”
After the bombing of the hospital, Israel first released a video that purported to show Palestinian Islamic Jihad rockets which struck the hospital. The Israelis hastily removed the video when journalists noticed that time stamps showed the images were taken 40 minutes after the strike on the hospital.
Israeli propagandists — aware that Palestinian rockets have little explosive power — then claimed that Hamas stored munitions under the hospital. This caused the massive explosion, they said. But if this was true, it would mean there would be a secondary explosion. There was none. And now Israel has released what they say is a recording of two Hamas militants discussing the missile strike on the hospital. The militants ask each other, in a self-incriminating conversation that is too ridiculous to believe, if Hamas or PIJ carried out the strike. Please. How was Israel completely in the dark about an incursion by thousands of armed Palestinian militants from Gaza into Israel on Oct. 7 and able to capture this incriminating conversation by two supposed militants?
“Israel has a whole unit of ‘mistaravim’, Israeli Jewish undercover agents trained to pose as Palestinians and secretly operate among Palestinians,” the reporter Jonathan Cook writes. “Israel produced a highly popular TV series about such people in Gaza called Fauda. You have to be beyond credulous to think that Israel couldn’t, and wouldn’t, rig up a call like this to fool us, just as it regularly fools Palestinians in Gaza.”
Israel has also long targeted medical facilities, ambulances and medics, as Middle East scholar Norman Finkelstein points out. It bombed a Palestinian children’s hospital during the 1982 war in Lebanon, killing 60 people. It also carried out missile strikes on clearly marked Lebanese ambulances during the 2006 war between Israel and Lebanon. It damaged or destroyed 29 ambulances and almost half of Gaza’s health facilities, including 15 hospitals, during the 2008-2009 assault on Gaza known as Operation Cast Lead. It routinely prohibited wounded Palestinians from being picked up by ambulances during this operation, often leaving them to die. During Operation Protective Edge, the 51-day assault on Gaza in 2014, Israel destroyed or damaged 17 hospitals and 56 primary healthcare centers and damaged or destroyed 45 ambulances.
You can see my interview, released today, with Professor Finkelstein about Gaza and Israel here.
Amnesty International, which investigated the Israeli attacks on three of these hospitals in 2014, dismissed the “evidence” for the attacks offered by Israel as false. “The image tweeted by the Israeli military does not match satellite images of the al-Wafa hospital and appears to depict a different location,” the report read.
Expose Israeli lies and you are attacked by Israel and its supporters as an anti-Semite and apologist for terrorists. You are banished from mainstream media. You are denied forums to speak about the issue and, as has happened to me, disinvited from university events.
It is an old game, one I have played as a reporter many, many times. I bear the scars of the lies spewed out by Israel and its lobby. Meanwhile, Israel continues its butchery, endorsed and even lauded by Western political leaders, including Joe Biden, who accompany the torrent of lies from Israel like a Wagnerian chorus.
https://scheerpost.com/2023/10/18/chris-hedges-israels-culture-of-deceit/
gini
24th October 2023, 01:43
rVvXTfPUf20--23/10/23--Interview with Cenk Uygur ( from The Young Turks) starts at 30 min.
I am not a fan of Cenk,but here he is doing a good job defending the rights of the Palestinians.
SilentFeathers
24th October 2023, 02:10
This is a rather disturbing interview about what could possibly happen if the events with Gaza continue to escalate.
I tend to mostly agree with Macgregor's common-sense analysis and perspective....
Tucker Carlson talked with Col. Douglas Macgregor about the possibility of war with Iran
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Ravenlocke
24th October 2023, 05:01
https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1716663367987819004
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https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1716557323928264918
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Ravenlocke
24th October 2023, 05:20
https://x.com/its_maria012/status/1716521895364034585
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Ravenlocke
24th October 2023, 05:25
https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1716665139691225171
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https://x.com/theIMEU/status/1716576090268057996
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Ravenlocke
24th October 2023, 05:48
https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/1716423211775107126
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https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/23/beautiful-solidarity-cooking-for-displaced-palestinians-in-southern-gaza
‘Beautiful solidarity’: Cooking for displaced Palestinians in southern Gaza
The Abu Assi family is feeding thousands of Palestinians displaced since Israel’s bombing campaign began on October 7.
Khan Younis, Gaza – On the pavement outside Jamil Abu Assi’s home in the southern Gaza town of Bani Suhaila east of Khan Younis, the 31-year-old and his cousins are busy cooking large cauldrons of food.
Abu Assi once cooked home meals based on requests from people. But after an Israeli air raid destroyed his kitchen during the 2014 Israeli offensive on the Gaza Strip, he shifted gears.
His family still cooks, but now specifically with the aim of helping those who have been displaced by Israel’s attacks and siege on Gaza. It’s a mission that’s being tested like never before.
According to the United Nations, one million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have been internally displaced since Israel began bombarding the territory on October 7. The blockaded enclave’s total population is 2.3 million. Many have moved to the south of the Strip following repeated warnings from the Israeli military to leave the north.
Every day, the family cooks 2,000 meals that feed some of those who have arrived in Khan Younis, swelling the southern city’s population to more than half a million from about 220,000 in 2021.
“I start my morning searching for wood because we do not have cooking gas,” he told Al Jazeera, referring to the complete blockade on fuel supplies to Gaza enforced by Israel since October 7. But some days, fetching wood is risky, he said, given the town’s proximity to the Israel border. On Sunday, the Palestinian armed group Hamas — which governs the Gaza Strip — said it had pushed back an attempted Israeli raid into the Khan Younis area, in which an Israeli soldier was killed.
“I don’t want to put myself in danger,” Abu Assi said.
‘We try to do our part’
Abu Assi and his cousins have divided up their roles to be more efficient. One person is tasked with chopping onions, another with adding ingredients and stirring the pot, and a third with wrapping and packaging the meals.
Most of the meals include rice, lentils and freekeh, a cereal prepared by roasting green grain. Meat was previously a staple, but is now harder to get as many butchers have closed their shops after being damaged by Israeli bombs and amid a lack of supplies.
Many Palestinians who have moved to southern Gaza have taken shelter at schools run by the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) — the UN agency for Palestinian refugees — believing those to be relatively safer spaces. Others are staying in cramped conditions with host families and communities. Some left the north with only the clothes on their backs, others with small backpacks.
Week in the Middle East
“The schools are hardly places of refuge,” he said. “They are cemeteries for the living, without the basic necessities of life. We try to do our part, however small, in alleviating this crisis for the people.”
Israel’s devastating bombing campaign followed a surprise Hamas attack on southern Israel on October 7, leading to 1,400 people’s deaths. The Israeli bombardment of Gaza has since flattened entire neighbourhoods, and killed more than 4,600 Palestinians in 16 days, including 1,873 children and 1,023 women.
Yet, to Abu Assi — as to Palestinians across Gaza, Israel and the occupied West Bank — the latest aggression is only a reminder of a personal history.
‘Beautiful social solidarity’
Abu Assi is a third-generation refugee originally from Jaffa, where his grandparents were displaced in 1948 during what Palestinians refer to as the Nakba. More than 750,000 Palestinians were forcibly evicted from their lands and homes, some 500 towns and villages were destroyed, and thousands were killed in a process of ethnic cleansing carried out by Jewish militias and the military of the then-nascent Israeli state.
“Our grandfather told us that being a refugee is very hard to take, and that this bitterness will never be forgotten and is handed down to each generation,” Abu Assi recalled. “The pain in our hearts will never make us forgive Israel for what it has done and continues to do to us.”
The children affected by the war this time around will never be able to forget surviving without food, water or electricity, he said.
But amid the terror and trauma of missiles and the siege, a community has come together. Some people have approached the Abu Assi family to see if they too could also donate food to displaced Palestinians.
“There is a beautiful social solidarity in the city of Khan Younis,” Abu Assi said. “We cannot accept hungry people not being able to find food, so there has been this organic cooperation to make sure that initiative continues to operate.”
‘Feel safe among the people’
To accommodate the food needs of the rising displaced population that Khan Younis is hosting, Abu Assi has increased the number of cooking burners and divided the work among two teams.
Meal preparation starts at seven in the morning, and the cooking goes on until 2pm.
“We cannot leave our workplaces, but we told those who need food to come from two in the afternoon until 5pm,” Abu Assi said.
“Some citizens volunteer to distribute meals in their cars to the displaced, which is a nice gesture as many of the displaced do not have means of transportation nor know the area very well.”
Some families are grateful even just for rice — often for their only meal of the day.
Karama Musallam, a 40-year-old mother of five, was looking for food when she came upon the Abu Assi family.
Her family, including her 80-year-old mother-in-law, fled their home in the northern Gaza town of Beit Hanoon at the start of the war. They are staying at UNRWA school in Bani Suhaila.
Musallam does not know anyone or have relatives in and around Khan Younis.
“When I went out to look for food, I found these young men cooking and they gave me two meals so that it would be enough for my children,” she said.
“They told me that I could come every day and take whatever meals available,” she added. “That is why I felt safe among the people.”
“We are all one community.”
Ravenlocke
24th October 2023, 05:52
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Ministry of Health in #Gaza:
~ What is happening in Gaza hospitals now constitutes war crimes.
~ More than 29 medical centers went out of service, as did many hospitals.
~ Power outage in the premature infants ward will lead to their immediate death.
~ We received more than 1,500 reports of people missing under the rubble in Gaza.
https://x.com/OnlinePalEng/status/1716692027193049302
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Ravenlocke
24th October 2023, 06:05
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1716696081512210528
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Ravenlocke
24th October 2023, 06:13
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1716415813622616154
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Ravenlocke
24th October 2023, 06:24
Text:
President Isaac Herzog on Sky News claims the Israeli Military found materials to develop chemical weapons on Palestinian fighters.
It’s been revealed that the material is an amateur biography of World Trade Center attacker Ramzi Yousef and contains no instructions on how to develop chemical weapons.
https://x.com/OnlinePalEng/status/1716530920243548502
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Agape
24th October 2023, 09:20
It’s not only the amount of violence, murders and destruction of all human values that is so unnerving , it is the depth of the conflict making it nearly impossible to solve that gives no hope to no people involved and eventually involves millions of people living in every part of world and generations of their descendants ,
Jews , Arabs, Native and modern Americans, Egyptians , eventually the Brits and the Russians , the people of Thailand and about all the rest of us who wish to live in peace and care about the planet and state of society we are living ,
constant effort for improvement and upgrade, war to save our environment and protect it from rising global temperature and other climatic changes ,
Israel has developed some of the most advanced “clean technologies” of today and is advancing in many science fields with huge support from his supporters in the US and all around the world
while his Palestinian neighbour lives in ruins ,
levels behind ,
who cares ?
Are your politicians speaking for you ?
If so , we have to contain ourselves with this version of prehistoric world I say and watch the fight of dinosaurs in modern Jurassic park called Gaza.
I bet they will use some of these devastating scenes in new apocalyptic movie coming out next year.
Are we so desensitised , so maimed , so drunken on our pride and arrogance , the lives in comfy zones millions of people know to have lost ,
as they keep running to all directions of this world in search of safety and clean life for them and their children ,
is this the world “on plan” ,
the same goes for any other people on this planet experiencing calamity , famine , or other kind of disaster ,
crossing the fence from night Seoul with 5G computer shops and karaoke bars ,
the same country to the North has “other political allies”( since about last 100 years) so whoa we starve them to death instead having a good chat and dissolving the unfriendliness, the pretended ignorance, the political jargon lead by today’s new business class of dealers ,
dealing us all big way;
our lives for example, the quality of our environment and healthcare, the education standards and the energies they grant us for being indebted to them forever,
their banks, their reserves , their fake smiles , well payed arrogance and pretences,
Oh Humanity , how do you want to win the war with lies and deceit ?
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thirtythree
24th October 2023, 11:01
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202310205679
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“The Secretariat removed on 19 October 2023 from the Security Council website the list of 23 individuals and 61 entities subject to the aforementioned restrictive measures,” read the UN letter, terminating all provisions of Annex B of UN Security Council Resolution 2231 that prohibited activities such as development, tests, military employment, and others. The resolution endorsed Iran’s 2015 nuclear deal (JCPOA) with P5+1 (the five permanent members of the Council -- China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States, plus Germany).
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I do find the timing of this perplexing.
Ernie Nemeth
24th October 2023, 11:42
I guess when they start killing us directly then people come out and care.
They have been soft killing us for as long as I have been alive.
Now we care? And only because one massacre has lead to the brink of an even larger massacre that threatens to engulf the whole world.
I contend that this scenario was inevitable due to the apathy of the world's citizens to the soft kill that has murdered billions of people in the last hundred years.
Good to see that people care again. But it is really only posturing.
The world's citizens pine for the good old days of the soft kill, where the majority could go about their lives ignoring their own shortened lives and the plight of those even less fortunate, and completely forget those that have passed due to direct negligence and corruption of all our major institutions.
Rizotto
24th October 2023, 12:47
Neocons cannot be stopped, they will get war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vQXLyrCi_0
Personally, I agree that the psychopaths at the top in the USA and Isreal are doing all they can to start WW3 and get as many people killed as possible. But I still can't see every body else under their command following such orders. What if the underlings finally decided they've had enough of this madness and just stood down. It's possible, right? Please tell me it's possible.
SilentFeathers
24th October 2023, 12:58
I guess when they start killing us directly then people come out and care.
They have been soft killing us for as long as I have been alive.
Now we care? And only because one massacre has lead to the brink of an even larger massacre that threatens to engulf the whole world.
I contend that this scenario was inevitable due to the apathy of the world's citizens to the soft kill that has murdered billions of people in the last hundred years.
Good to see that people care again. But it is really only posturing.
The world's citizens pine for the good old days of the soft kill, where the majority could go about their lives ignoring their own shortened lives and the plight of those even less fortunate, and completely forget those that have passed due to direct negligence and corruption of all our major institutions.
Yes, it appears that the days of "soft kill' are pretty much a thing of the past. Everything corrupt and evil is so in our faces now days it's rather quite astonishing.
I truly believe that we are about to see the whole middle east erupt into complete chaos, where it goes from there who knows. It won't be pretty, that's a fact.
I said early in this thread that Iran appears to be the target in the bigger picture of things, unfortunately it appears that is what these psychopaths are gearing up for. There's no way IMO that China and Russia will allow Iran to be destroyed, but it's looking more and more like these war-mongering psychopaths don't care.
I think we are about to see the world drastically change.
Rizotto
24th October 2023, 13:14
Very interesting analysis by Kim Iversen. I'm particularly disappointed that the Canadian "Rebel News" is now preaching censorship. It's run by Ezra Levant, a big supporter of 'Isreal can do no wrong'.
Free Speech Warriors Suddenly Pro-Censorship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGgJWrC5kis
Not mentioned by Kim, but there also the christian zionists. I'm shocked to see so many of them in Canada insisting that the bible says we must let Isreal do whatever to muslims, because that brings us the second coming of christ. It's as if they're under hypnosis. And these are people who had been standing on the side of protests against covid mandates, urging the government to use critical thinking... This is getting scary.
The cabal is skilled in findings ways to divide people, and religion is their main tool.
shaberon
24th October 2023, 13:40
Now we care? And only because one massacre has lead to the brink of an even larger massacre that threatens to engulf the whole world.
I contend that this scenario was inevitable due to the apathy of the world's citizens to the soft kill that has murdered billions of people in the last hundred years.
I would say "lack of access".
Notice that I could find a way to go on a Ukrainian Safari, or join ISIS.
Syrian or Russian armies are not interested in volunteers, nor can you just "get into" anything like the Houthis, or the non-Ziofied Kurdish, or Palestine.
No types of revolutions are known to have ever happened by a crowd of "rabble", i. e. someone like me who has basically nothing.
It takes the petits bourgeoise, that is, people with some amount of resources, to mobilize something that might be effective.
It happened one time, it's called Greek Independence, which was only possible because a wealthy Greek diaspora in numerous countries was able to raise support. This was like a world fever for several years. But nothing like that has happened for the people that U. S. and Israel attack, instead, yes, we got a century of soft kill against us.
Mere crowds of angry people are only capable of Antifa tactics like messing up Oregon with no purpose.
In my view, I would have combatted our armed forces wherever they went, with the possible exception of Khmer Rouge.
Nothing is in place to do that.
If there were, out of all those gigantic crowds that are making a fuss, someone else would go too.
Pam
24th October 2023, 14:58
Neocons cannot be stopped, they will get war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vQXLyrCi_0
Personally, I agree that the psychopaths at the top in the USA and Isreal are doing all they can to start WW3 and get as many people killed as possible. But I still can't see every body else under their command following such orders. What if the underlings finally decided they've had enough of this madness and just stood down. It's possible, right? Please tell me it's possible.
Rizotto, this has always been one of the most interesting aspects of any genocide or horrific cruelty, or action that will ultimately destroy ones own family or self, think war. Why do most just go along with it. Here are a number of possibilities .
1- The assumption is made that the authority understands more and is better equipped to make a judgement. Programming to believe this.
2- I'm just following orders.
3-I and the ones I care for will be safe I go along with it.
4-This one is bigger than most believe.-----I love my little bit of authority and I will use it and abuse it and benefit from it to the max.
5-FEAR -if I go along I will do it to get along.
6- Way down the list is "I deeply understand why we are doing this and I believe it is the just thing to do".
I could have added a bunch of nuances, but I think that these are some of the major components.
There are a very, very few who would dare think for themselves and muster the courage to follow through with that conviction if it goes against the consensus narrative.
I know, from personal experience. I tend to be a coward, the mask thing was a tiny step to make the "right" decision and I was very uncomfortable but was able to do it. It made me realize how very programmed I am and any thought that I was generally courageous was self deception. It is something I will need to work on and practice. That's what it takes is good old fashioned practice with a strong intent. I don't want to leave this realm as a coward. I suspect perfection may be too high a goal but not giving up, continuing to walk the narrow path.
shaberon
24th October 2023, 16:13
Not mentioned by Kim, but there also the christian zionists. I'm shocked to see so many of them in Canada insisting that the bible says we must let Isreal do whatever to muslims, because that brings us the second coming of christ. It's as if they're under hypnosis.
There are probably, only, the Christian Zionists.
This derives from the Biblical statement that the Throne of David is eternal, so i. e., Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, and/or any important people, must be descendants of David. Someone must be legitimately owning that throne at all times. Even if unoccupied, someone, legally, is supposed to have it.
This may sound familiar when the English decided they were generally the tribe of Ephraim (https://www.britishisrael.co.uk/showart.php?id=36):
Brith-ish (two Hebrew words) meaning “covenant man,”
This Stone of Destiny represents the constitutional centre of God’s Kingdom upon Earth.
This throne was to be an enduring and everlasting throne never wanting a successor to occupy the constitutional centre of God’s Kingdom rule until Jesus Christ should return (I Kings 2:4; 8:25, this included the Hebrew Law of Inheritance through the female).
...the Royal Line of David remained intact, from King David in Palestine, via Ireland, Scotland and England to Queen Elizabeth II today.
That's bold, but theoretically, mostly Jews are descended from David. Going to King James (https://www.associationcovenantpeople.org/king-james-i/):
When Elizabeth died, James ascended the Throne of David, not without opposition, but through his ascendancy, he brought the warring nations of England and Scotland together into a single kingdom, as prophesied by the prophet Ezekiel centuries earlier (see Ezekiel 37: 22 above).
When he succeeded Elizabeth I in 1603, he claimed that God had made him king of Israel and had the statement “I will make them one nation” (from Ezekiel 37:22) inscribed on the reverse of a freshly minted coin, “The Unite.” He knew full well that the throne upon which he was sitting was an extension of the Throne of David.
Is that putting words in his mouth? Well, Jews were probably discussing it constantly since the time of David, and this may be where the English idea comes in first (https://www.quora.com/Which-of-the-royal-families-in-history-were-descended-from-King-David):
Edward-iv (1442-1483) of England had his genealogy drawn up. This traced his ancestry back to King Yehoshaphat (867-851 BCE) of Judah.
Of course this concerns "Divine Right" (through bloodlines particularly), and whether the real throne is Jewish, in Rome, or England. And so of course someone is going to make this claim. Does a fifteenth-century flatterer actually know that much about two thousand years of lost generations?
I was able to find this claim as to David's genetics (http://jewishbubba.blogspot.com/2014/12/king-davids-genes-who-inherited-them.html):
Y haplotpye of DNA J1 from his fathers and MT haplotype of DNA from his mothers
but honestly, these articles are so shallow and horrible, they should be purged from the face of the earth. Any decent genetics study will do things like...give results of that study. There's no such thing as "Haplogroup MT". There is Basal M and sub-clades such as M1 and so on. So that authority is actually retarded.
James pretty seriously believed these things; as to Elizabeth or his other forebears, I am not sure. Israelism "for the people" was first written in 1590 by a Hugenot. Most likely the "Royal descent" idea came first, and the "Tribes" followed.
It's not quite Zionism because it is the simple belief that the English Crown is already all this.
Zionism is further misinterpretations as if the Bible was talking about modern Russia and Germany, mixed with the employment by Oliver Cromwell of the Jewish Diaspora. Obviously things outwardly bound from England, not a justification of its own ruler.
There isn't perceptibly "Jewish Zionism" until 1897 and Herzel.
What is very perceptible is that the Davidic line claimants are Jews and Protestants--if you look at some Orthodox web pages, you do not find anything about this. They just accept that the Second Coming would be part of it. There seems to be nothing about who it is, or who it has been for generations, nothing like that.
We get many wars from this British belief that a sensible person would simply ignore.
Hereditary Divine Right is a complete contrast to the Enlightened Monarch who has to renew and invigorate their social contract by actually providing well-being to the subjects.
Fanaticism about bloodlines is among the most revolting, bestial concepts I can imagine.
Concerning Edward IV was both the Wars of the Roses, and that he temporarily dampened the Venetian (https://kar.kent.ac.uk/86371/) monopoly:
That the Venetians remained important in many branches of English trade may be attributed to the sophisticated organisation, business techniques, and the vast network of mercantile and financial connections which the Venetians maintained in the major markets of Europe and the Levant. The importance of the Venetians to the English crown was paramount in the maintenance of their position.
Although Venetian letters (https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/venice/vol1/pp92-126) of the time also discuss their fight at Rhodes v. Knights of Malta, and that England and France had made perpetual peace.
His lavish habits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_IV_of_England) were such that:
Edward's spending habitually exceeded income; on his death in 1483, the Crown had less than £1,200 in cash. His close relationship with the London branch of the Medici Bank ended in its bankruptcy; in 1517, the Medicis were still seeking repayment of Edward's debts.
Not surprising, the Medicis take a dive, while the Venetians mount a comeback.
The "Davidic ancestry" rather traces him to the origin of the universe (https://schoolshistory.org.uk/topics/edward-iv-family-trees-and-the-history-of-the-universe/).
You can view it at U-Penn (https://openn.library.upenn.edu/Data/0023/html/lewis_e_201.html):
This late-fifteenth-century genealogical roll was most likely made for Edward IV during his reign and is largely based on the twelfth century account of Geoffrey of Monmouth.
And to most historians' views, it is sheer manipulation (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00233609.2021.1950831):
Even though not many genealogy rolls from Henry VII’s reign exists, they were very popular with Edward IV (1442–1483).
Edward IV adopted the genealogies from Henry VI’s persuasive effort in France but turned the tables. Henry’s claim to the French throne became Lancastrian foreign blood. Edward’s use of agitation propaganda is perhaps best summarised in Henry VI as a French foreigner, and with the recently concluded hundred-year war between England and France fresh in mind, the Lancastrian claim to the French and English throne paints them as invaders.
Edward IV also used familiar histories and mythical stories to create an image of a justified usurpation. The Oxford, Bodleian Library, Bodley MS 623,Footnote42 (63/71, r & v), shows how Edward used Arthurian myth and symbolism to claim descent from Brutus and the native red dragon, Rubeu[s] Draco, while Henry VI lineage is the white invading Saxon Albus Draco.
or (https://r3.org/edwardiv-roll/):
It was created to justify Edward IV’s accession to the throne of England by right of birth and to challenge the right of his predecessor, and is very much a work of fifteenth-century propaganda.
That's not terribly surprising.
However, these are the source documents which attach the idea to the Throne of David:
FractalEnergy
24th October 2023, 16:46
I don't want to leave this realm as a coward.Love this.
This speaks to two of the five regrets of the dying:
1. I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.
2. I wish I’d had the courage to express my feelings.
At the end of the day, we are all trying to avoid suffering, which includes worrying about what others think of us. Like you, I don't want to leave this realm as a coward not speaking my truth.
grapevine
24th October 2023, 17:32
Neocons cannot be stopped, they will get war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vQXLyrCi_0
Personally, I agree that the psychopaths at the top in the USA and Isreal are doing all they can to start WW3 and get as many people killed as possible. But I still can't see every body else under their command following such orders. What if the underlings finally decided they've had enough of this madness and just stood down. It's possible, right? Please tell me it's possible.
Theres that well-known saying: " It's a case of sh*t or bust", when you've played all your trump cards and there's nothing much left. Thanks to Biden's term of office the US is broke and no longer has the influence or power it once had, so they and the West, are going for broke and pushing . . . And we, the civilians, are merely collateral damage.
shaberon
24th October 2023, 19:55
However, these are the source documents which attach the idea to the Throne of David:
I have to double down on this and knock out two propagandas with one battleaxe.
The one that you don't take seriously is that the nationalists of India believe that Tara Hill in Ireland means it was an Indian colony from 11,000 B. C. E.
I know you don't believe this, but, about 700 million of them do.
As to Israel, the simple answer is No (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/cO_bwAbrytQ), from a thread between reason and Bible quotes.
In trying to find any source document that might pin Edward IV's halfway understandable Descent from Adam, to King James thinking he was King of Israel, I kept running into a million churches regurgitating the same feast on their lord's carcass.
It's bad.
The claim is that ancient Judeans literally passed the "Throne of David" into Ireland.
This bothers me on so many levels I cannot believe the drunkest Irishman would even garble these words.
What is worse is that it is like fourth-gen propaganda.
There is a rather long article about it and we just need a few extracts involving no less than an attempted A&E lawsuit on a debate which is simultaneously tied to the Ark of the Covenant (https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-america-unearthed-s02e01-ark-of-the-covenant):
We start at the Hill of Tara in Ireland, where Wolter claims—falsely—that the Ark was last seen. This myth exists only in a certain strain of fringe history myth-making called British Israelism. Wolter fails to inform viewers of the origins of his claims for the Hill of Tara, and it is evident from the presentation of the episode that the producers explicitly tried to keep that origin hidden. As Wolter talks with an expert in Irish history at Tara, rather clumsy edits cut the expert off as she attempts to describe the very recent origins of the myth. It starts with a philosophy called British Israelism, an ideology advocated most forcefully in the nineteenth century that asserted that the British were the direct lineal descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel and were the Chosen People of God. As a result, England was believed to be the successor state to David’s kingdom, and the royal family of Britain God’s representatives on earth. This philosophy served to justify British imperial claims to world domination, but scholars routinely attacked its outlandish distortions of history in its own time and down to the present. Today, British Israelism is a fringe belief, advocated most forcefully by the white supremacist Christian Identity movement and other white supremacist organizations. Some non-racist organizations maintain the ideology as well, including the British-Israel World Federation, which has denounced many of the original British-Israel claims cited by Wolter.
In 1861 a churchman, the Rev. F. R. A. Glover, wrote a book called England, the Remnant of Judah and the Israel of Ephraim, which I have posted in full in my Library. This was the first text to present the Tara-Jeremiah-Tea Tephi myth given uncritically by Scott Wolter without acknowledgement of the source.
Right. It's a "tradition" or "ancient legend", blended with the predictable cross-naming of names where this thing in Hebrew sounds like that thing in Gaelic.
The throne had to temporarily pass through a female:
In 1024, in the poetry of Cuan O’Cochlain (attributed; many think the source text is older), we read that Tephi, daughter Cino Bactir, a king in Spain, died and her fantastic tomb became Tara. He was repeating a claim made by Amergin in the sixth century. These are the foundational poems that contributed to the myth.
Glover and the British Israelists made Tephi into a daughter of Zedekiah, the last Jewish king before the destruction of Jerusalem in 587 BCE, and had her marry a Milesian (Scot) and bring the Stone of Destiny to Ireland and call it the Pillow of Jacob. This is very much a purposeful misinterpretation of Cuan O’Cochlain’s discussion of how Tephi married Canthon of Britain, and the Britons’ most important idol, the Etherun or Taran, was left in Spain until her body was restored to that country. Tephi’s tomb in Spain then became the model for another tomb in Ireland, called Tara, after the return of the stone idol.
Even though the Scottish legends of their coronation stone explain it as being handled by a Greek, the English version says that the Judaic Irish one was passed to Scotland by none other than King Fergus which is infuriating.
Between the medieval songs and the coronation stone(s), we reach this remarkable conclusion:
Glover had conflated fragments of genuine poetry and invented identifications for various Irish figures to interpolate Jeremiah into the story. No mention of the Ark exists in these poems; the Book of Tephi, the poem that does describe all of this, is a late nineteenth century poem written in 1897 by John A. Goodchild, based on Glover’s work, that believers like Scott Wolter mistake for a genuine ancient text. It was based on fragments of Irish poetry, Bible passages, and British Israelist literature; the author even admits his “ignorance” of the subject on which he writes in the voice of the imaginary princess!
Naturally, Scott Wolter simply omits all of this history and tells the audience that “legend” says that Tea-Tephi and Jeremiah teamed up to take the Ark and the Stone of Destiny to Ireland, a “legend” that does not exist before the late nineteenth century.
That is a pretty sweet match with Theodore Herzl, 1897.
The source text for the claimed belief of King James comes from 1897. He might have come up with it out of Ezekiel if that was a real coin minted.
The relatively mild Queen Elizabeth I (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_I) definitely had some unscrupulous imperialists about her (Cabal); she was friendly to Russia, did not like the Puritans, and:
Expectations of King James started high but then declined. By the 1620s, there was a nostalgic revival of the cult of Elizabeth.
I, at least, am unaware of anything that might have put Israel in her mind whatsoever. In her time, there were only a few Marranos, and (https://www.bl.uk/shakespeare/articles/how-were-the-jews-regarded-in-16th-century-england):
Jews in 16th-century England practised their religion secretly, and many of those raised in the Jewish faith either converted to Christianity or pretended to have done so.
Perhaps the most notorious of these Jews was Roderigo Lopez, Elizabeth’s personal physician, drawn and quartered in 1594 for allegedly conspiring to poison the Queen. The historian William Camden reports that Lopez went to his death strenuously ‘affirming that he loved the Queen as well as he loved Jesus Christ; which, coming from a man of the Jewish profession, moved no small laughter in the standers-by’.
Sir John Mandeville’s popular Travels, reprinted well into the 17th century, even warns of a Jewish military threat: at the time of Antichrist the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, now penned in beyond the hills of Cathay, ‘shall come out, and Christian men shall be in their subjection, as they be under Christian men now.’
There was even a scheme to resettle foreign Jews in Ireland: in 1607, Sir Thomas Shirley urged King James to resolve in one stroke both the Irish and the Jewish problem, while reaping the benefit of heavy taxation. His suggestion was not acted on (though it was still taken seriously enough a half-century later in James Harington’s political treatise, Oceana).
It appears to me that some Protestants--perhaps I should say Fundamentalists--have deluded themselves greatly.
The UK is the triply-turned Throne of David. Really? How gullible or superstitious are these folk? Completely? Is this freedom protected by law? Does that constitute a religion? Do they know about this in Scotland or Ireland? Will France be Merovingian all over again?
Let me review. Are these the people who would burn you alive for what you think?
Oh.
There had not been many and they were usually politically motivated (or else insane) such as the Duchess of Gloucester 1441 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor,_Duchess_of_Gloucester). There was herbalism:
potions to help her conceive.
and the king can use astrology, but when you do it, it's called:
treasonable necromancy.
With King James, persecution began turning into "anyone" and:
The witch hunt was at its most intense stage during the English Civil War (1642–1651) and the Puritan era of the mid-17th century.
They stopped in 1735. It is the same thing in Salem, Massachusetts, however William Penn acquitted some.
My guess is what we are seeing now is a slight twist on this witch hunt.
ExomatrixTV
24th October 2023, 22:10
The Joke That "SHOULD" Have Ended Dave Chappelle’s Career:
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ExomatrixTV
24th October 2023, 22:47
U.S Soldiers Under Attack In The Middle East? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKxzs-eSKEI)
ExomatrixTV
25th October 2023, 03:15
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shaberon
25th October 2023, 03:25
This map update is not very fluid, but it does have a few notes:
https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/24octber2023_Syria_War_Map-768x714.jpg
On October 24, Syrian forces fired several rockets at Israeli positions in the occupied Golan heights;
On October 23, Resistance forces attacked the US base in the Tanf area drones;
On October 23, Resistance forces attacked the US base in the Omar oil field;
On October 23, Resistance forces attacked the US base in the Shaddadi area.
Predictably (https://sana.sy/en/?p=319235):
https://sana.sy/en/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/1-53.jpg
Israeli released captive, Yasmin Porat, 44-years- old, gave a special interview to the radio program Haboker Hazeh, on Israeli Radio Kan. She answered several questions and provided details about what has happened since October 7th.
Contrary to the image of “terrorists” promoted by the West, Porat reveals that Palestinian fighters showed humanity all the time and guarantees of life, by providing safe passage to Gaza for hostages amid the chaos.
When the interviewer asked her if Israeli forces were responsible for the killing of civilians, Porat replied “undoubtedly, they eliminated everyone, including the hostages.”
Porat said that Israeli forces brutally eliminated everyone, including the hostages, amid intense crossfire and tank shelling.
Porat speech is challenging the narrative and highlighting the need for a more comprehensive and impartial investigation into Israel’s crimes against civilians..
Later, the full interview was blocked on social media networks and Kan Radio website.
As for the others (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1948641):
The Military Spokesperson for Al-Quds Brigades, Abu Hamza, indicated that, after eighteen days since the battle of Al-Aqsa Flood, it has become clear to us that the occupation government does not want its captives to see the light and does not show the slightest concern for their lives.
As for a line they use and the question if it would be in context:
“Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged, and indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.” – Quran (22:39).
Rizotto
25th October 2023, 10:55
Aljazeera.com is probably the best source at this time for information on the genocide of Gaza by Isreali forces.
A few examples of articles' titles today (there are many more):
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/25/israel-to-refuse-visas-to-un-officials-after-guterres-speech-on-gaza-war
Israel to refuse visas to UN officials after Guterres speech on Gaza war
Protesting the UN chief’s indirect criticism of Israel, Israel’s UN envoy says ‘the time has come to teach them a lesson’.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/25/several-palestinians-killed-in-israeli-raids-in-occupied-west-bank-ministry
At least five killed in Israeli raids in occupied West Bank: Ministry
At least 103 Palestinians in the West Bank have been killed since Hamas’s attack inside Israel on October 7 prompted Israeli response.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/25/gaza-is-out-of-fuel-out-of-time-under-israels-bombardment
Why Israel’s ban on fuel to Gaza isn’t about stopping Hamas
Israel says Gaza can’t have fuel because it has military uses. But the monitored delivery system is tamper-proof, so why refuse?
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2023/10/25/israeli-air-raids-flatten-homes-kill-dozens-at-a-time-in-southern-gaza
Israeli air raids flatten homes, kill dozens at a time in southern Gaza
Health officials and witnesses say residential buildings have been reduced to rubble in Rafah and Khan Younis.
wegge
25th October 2023, 15:43
Jon Rappoport (on his substac (https://substack.com/@jonrappoport)k) on „colliding religious stories“ which are baked into the current conflict.
„Organized religion is frozen poetry.
The predator priests—who between them couldn’t write a nursery rhyme—take a work of great imagination, an epic poem, for instance, and edit it, cut it to shreds, insert some extra pumping and thumping, and come up with DOCTRINE.
—This is what God did, this is what He wants, this is how we, your Church, will administer it, these are the rules, this is where you drop your money in the till, this is how we control your lives.
There is a specialized form of this op, in which certain purported physical objects (usually missing) are promoted as holy holies.
Like the Ark of the Covenant.
“The inner room, or Holy of Holies [underground, in Jerusalem, below the Muslim Dome of the Rock], was thought to be the actual dwelling place of the God of Israel, who sat invisibly enthroned above a solid slab of gold that rested on the Ark of the Covenant and had a cherub at each end. This Ark was a gold-covered wooden box containing the tablets of the Ten Commandments.” (Jerusalem Post)
Wikipedia: “The Ark of the Covenant, also known as the Ark of the Testimony or the Ark of God, is an artifact believed to be the most sacred relic of the Israelites, which is described as a wooden chest, covered in pure gold, with an elaborately designed lid called the mercy seat. According to the Book of Exodus, the Ark contained the two stone tablets of the Ten Commandments. According to the New Testament Book of Hebrews, it also contained Aaron’s rod and a pot of manna.”
“The biblical account relates that approximately one year after the Israelites’ exodus from Egypt, the Ark was created according to the pattern given to Moses by God when the Israelites were encamped at the foot of Mount Sinai. Thereafter, the gold-plated acacia chest was carried by its staves by the Levites approximately 2,000 cubits (approximately 800 meters or 2,600 feet) in advance of the people when on the march. God spoke with Moses ‘from between the two cherubim’ on the Ark’s cover.”
Uh-huh. Right.
So where is the Ark now?
Encyclopedia Britannica: “Jewish and Christian tradition presents the Ark of the Covenant as the physical manifestation of God’s presence and supreme power.”
“Ancient Israelites marched the Ark into battle and brought whole cities to their knees. The Ark was so sacred that touching it meant instant death. And once it was laid to rest in the Temple of Jerusalem’s holiest chamber, only the high priest was allowed in its presence and only once a year. Then Babylon sacked Jerusalem in the 6th century BCE, and the Ark disappeared. In the thousands of years since, its fate has stymied readers of history. Perhaps most famously, it inspired Steven Spielberg’s blockbuster Indiana Jones film Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981). Finding the Ark’s real location probably doesn’t involve an adventuring archaeologist and secretive Nazis, but what do we know about the Ark’s final resting place?”
“One of the most well-known theories about the Ark is linked to Ethiopia’s 14th-century national epic, the Kebra Negast. According to this account, the Queen of Sheba visited King Solomon in Jerusalem during the 10th century BCE and had a son by him on her journey home. Their son, named Menelik, returned to Jerusalem once he was of age. Although Menelik ultimately chose to go back to his mother, Solomon sent with him a company of Jewish scions. But unbeknownst to Solomon or Menelik, these companions, frustrated about leaving Jerusalem, decided to take a souvenir of sorts: the Ark of the Covenant. It was too late for Solomon to retrieve the sacred vessel. Menelik brought the Ark with him to the city of Aksum, and, with the Ark at his side, he later conquered a number of surrounding territories for what would become the Ethiopian empire.”
“The Kebra Negast and its account of the Ark are major parts of Ethiopia’s national history. Although many scholars now believe the text to be apocryphal, Ethiopia’s medieval kings—called the Solomonic dynasty—claimed direct descent from Menelik and Solomon. This dynasty ruled until 1974, and their biblical connection was codified in Emperor Haile Selassie I’s 1931 and 1955 constitutions. Apart from the Ethiopian government, the country’s largest religious denomination, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, understands the Kebra Negast to be legitimate Christian history. According to church leaders, the Ark of the Covenant has for centuries been closely guarded in Aksum at the Church of St. Mary of Zion. Not even the high priest of Aksum can enter its resting chamber. Its sole custodian is a virgin monk who cannot leave the sacred grounds until his death. The Ark’s influence, though, is felt throughout the Ethiopian Orthodox world. Each one of their churches houses its own tabot, a sacred replica of the Ark. Tabots are kept in the Qeddest Qeddusan, or Holy of Holies, and are only taken out during festivals and times of need. Indeed, each tabot is venerated as if it were the Ark itself.”
“Despite being an integral part of Ethiopian Orthodoxy, the nature of the Ark’s supposed guardianship at Aksum has made the church’s claim to ownership unverifiable. Most historians think that if it existed, the more than 3,000-year-old relic either disintegrated over time or was destroyed. But this, too, is only speculation. For many, the final fate of the Ark remains a fascinating mystery and a perhaps unsolvable one.”
But wait. That’s not all.
There are claims the Ark passed through Atlantis and Lemuria, and much later was temporarily possessed by the Knights Templars and other secret societies.
Yes, well…
Even if the Ark were found, and brought into the light of day, who is to say it was originally more than the production of human artists and craftsmen working for a King, a priesthood?
But people love legends and stories that invent legends. I certainly like them. But I like them as innovations of individual poets and imagination.
Not as fact.
And definitely not, when according to many Israelites, the original resting place of the Ark was in an underground room, a holy of holies, beneath another sacred shrine, the Muslim Dome of the Rock, in Jerusalem.
Because to unearth that room now would mean destroying the Rock, from which Muhammad supposedly stepped off into Heaven.
And destroying the Rock would bring millions of Muslims to Jerusalem and start a holy war that would make the current war in Israel and Gaza pale by comparison.
Not only is the work of ancient poets stolen by the priests and turned into organized religion; THEN other predatory men take the religious stories and make them collide with each other…
For war.
For destruction.
Dear Steven Spielberg,
Make THAT movie.
I’ll pay a few bucks to see it.“
ExomatrixTV
25th October 2023, 15:49
Biden Admin (Deep State Minions) DEMANDS CENSORSHIP
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10 Catastrophic Scenarios! Israel-Palestine Conflict's Shocking Impact On Us Economy
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With the intensifying Israel-Palestine conflict, economists are sounding alarms about its potential impact on U.S. financial markets. In this video, we explore ten adverse economic scenarios that could emanate from this crisis, including regional war escalation, OPEC oil embargoes, and global inflation risks. Join prominent economists like Peter Schiff as they analyze these critical concerns.
As the Israel-Palestine conflict deepens, the United States faces the looming threat of at least five major financial catastrophes. This concern is accentuated by ongoing government debt negotiations and China's active divestment from U.S. Treasury bonds, a move that could have far-reaching implications for the dollar's reserve status and the global economy.
China, the world's second-largest holder of U.S. debt, has consistently sold Treasury bonds for five consecutive months. This shift raises questions about the dollar's future, and China's strategic move into gold reserves adds another layer of complexity.
China's remarkable pattern of divesting from U.S. debt while increasing gold reserves sets a precedent. The country has become the world's largest buyer of gold and the largest seller of U.S. Treasury bonds, shaking up global financial dynamics.
Switzerland's recent divestment from U.S. Treasury bonds in the face of a U.S. credit rating downgrade suggests a potential wave of U.S. debt divestment. This shift may reignite concerns of high inflation and its butterfly effect.
The U.S. economy's reliance on debt financing, from the government to households, has contributed to an unsustainable situation. The Federal Reserve's rate hikes have amplified interest costs on U.S. debts, further complicating the economic landscape.
U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen acknowledges the challenges, with debt interest consuming a significant portion of economic output. The risk of debt default looms, posing a significant threat.
As the future of the U.S. debt-dependent economic model lies in the hands of China, preparations for a potential divestment of $800 billion in U.S. Treasury bonds become essential. Experts predict China may continue to divest billions in U.S. debt, painting a complex picture for the U.S. economy.
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grapevine
25th October 2023, 17:57
What's Israel's endgame in Gaza?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5-aFiWyskQ&ab_channel=AlJazeeraEnglish (23.21 mins)
The former Israeli justice minister (Yossi Beilin) says that Hamas’ leadership must leave Gaza for the war to end. In this episode of Sidebar, the veteran Israeli politician also answers questions about Israel’s killing of Palestinian civilians, and if there are any future prospects for a peace deal.
Having listened to the video, and given that Yossi Beilin is one of the more moderate Israelis, any negotiator for peace will certainly have their work cut-out.
shaberon
25th October 2023, 23:52
Who knows how they know--but in a recent statement (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1949169):
Retired Col. Douglas Macgregor told US talk show host Tucker Carlson on Monday that an confrontation near Gaza has already occurred “in the last 24 hours or so.”
“In the last 24 hours or so, some of our Special Ops forces and Israeli Special Ops forces went into Gaza to reconnoiter, to plan for where they might want to go to free hostages and make an impact, and they were shot to pieces and took heavy losses, as I understand it,” Macgregor told Carlson on Twitter/X.
“And once we are a co-belligerent, we enter this thing, it is going to be very difficult for Russia and Turkey not to also come into this fight against us because they will not tolerate the sort of collective punishment that Israel plans for Gaza.”
From someone who probably should know, the "minor" attacks on American bases were not bottlerockets (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1948718):
In a recent development, the United States has acknowledged that twenty four of its soldiers were wounded in separate attacks on its occupation bases in Syria and Iraq. These attacks have raised tensions in the region and caused serious concern for US interests, potentially leading to a regional conflict.
And he know what we know--recap from Syria's Dr. Assad (https://sana.sy/en/?p=319302):
Damascus, SANA- President Bashar al-Assad said on Wednesday that the role of World Trade Unions is directly linked to the concept of justice and making efforts to achieve this purpose, and based on this concept, the relationship between Syria and “World Federation of Trade Unions” is old and “set off from the conflict between capitalism and the labor forces.”
President al-Assad added in a meeting with Mr. Pambis Kyritsis, Secretary General of World Federation of Trade Unions ( WFTU) that the major companies are leading politics and making decisions in the U.S. and Europe, and they create conflicts and wars to achieve their economic and financial interests, and “what is going on today in the occupied Palestinian territories is, in part, a reflection of this brutal reality that accepts committing massacres and killing innocent people simply because they stick to their rights and defend them.”
“We have many battles to carry on, in which the political issue is inseparable from the economic, ideological and social ones,” the President added.
SilentFeathers
25th October 2023, 23:56
It's hard to say what is truth or just propaganda, but, I still feel like Iran is the target and they are just getting ready to go for it....
Israel agrees to U.S. request to delay Gaza invasion
(Reuters) -Israel has agreed to delay an expected invasion of Gaza for now so that the United States can rush missile defences to the region to protect U.S. troops there, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, citing U.S. and Israeli officials.
U.S. officials have so far persuaded Israel to hold off until U.S. air-defence systems can be placed in the region, as early as later this week, the WSJ said.
Article (https://news.yahoo.com/israel-agrees-u-request-delay-151316351.html)
Ravenlocke
26th October 2023, 00:47
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Ravenlocke
26th October 2023, 01:08
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Ravenlocke
26th October 2023, 01:14
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🔴 RECAP #Palestine #Israel (as of 22:00 GMT, 25 October)
1. The current death toll in Gaza stands at 6,546, with over 1,900 others missing. 65% of Palestinians killed this week were in south Gaza, where Israel had forcibly ejected 1.1 million people, according to the health ministry
2. An Israeli air strike killed the wife, daughter and son of Al Jazeera Arabic’s Gaza bureau chief Wael al-Dahdouh. The attack was strongly condemned by the media network, as well as by a senior Qatari government minister
3. An exclusive story by MEE revealed that Palestinian resistance groups expect Israel to flood Hamas tunnels with nerve gas and chemical weapons under the surveillance of US Delta Force commandos, according to senior a source familiar with the groups
4. Competing US and Russian resolutions on the war failed to pass at the UN Security Council on Wednesday. The US resolution called for humanitarian pauses in the fighting, while Russia’s version called for an immediate ceasefire
5. The US is reportedly planning to send its entire Iron Dome stockpile to Israel, including two batteries and 300 interceptors
6. Families in Gaza are now wearing ID bracelets in case they die. They say it will help identify loved ones as Israeli bombs continue to be dropped all across the enclave
7. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey “owes nothing” to Israel and announced he would no longer visit the country as previously planned. He added that Hamas was not a terrorist group, labelling them instead as a liberation movement fighting to “protect their land and citizens”
8. Around 7,000 patients in Gaza’s hospitals face imminent death, as fuel is set to run out in the besieged enclave
🔴 Live updates: https://middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-gaza-invasion-live
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shaberon
26th October 2023, 01:19
The predator priests—who between them couldn’t write a nursery rhyme—take a work of great imagination, an epic poem, for instance, and edit it, cut it to shreds, insert some extra pumping and thumping, and come up with DOCTRINE.
—This is what God did, this is what He wants, this is how we, your Church, will administer it, these are the rules, this is where you drop your money in the till, this is how we control your lives.
There is a specialized form of this op, in which certain purported physical objects (usually missing) are promoted as holy holies.
Like the Ark of the Covenant.
That simply describes Moses himself doesn't it? From there on out.
And I think the Pastors may be worse. A "priest" is such a part of an institution, that he has little flexibility. But now we have "churches", operated by those who may have some kind of a degree to help them run their mouth, and the unity ends there. Especially in America, anything that might even be traced to any European school such as "Lutheran" is a minority compared to the "denominations", represented by any words you can think of, ending with "of God" or "of Christ", and these things are more like private businesses, or clubs.
I was forced to find out about them yesterday in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Hamas-a-New-Middle-East-War&p=1583183&viewfull=1#post1583183), where the Ark is linked to a far more dangerous thing, that is, the Throne of David is really the Throne of the UK--due to an 1897 poem.
King James was favorable to or interested in "Israel", but I do not know of any official doctrines or actions that may extend this beyond his own head.
In the 1700s, we *do* find new interpretations of the Book of Ezekiel, which are still not quite Zionistic, because they are still in favor of the British Empire, and I am not sure any "right of return" is discussed, because it's not Jewish.
You would think 1897 might be a bit late for an Englishman to be defining true Judaism--and the poem's author knew it was fiction and said he was ignorant about any real history behind it.
But that idea IS taken extremely seriously by a gamut of "denominations".
Try to look it up! You will find at least fifty kinds of churches with this tucked well under their wing, seething Rule Britannia throughout the universe.
This movement is at the exact same time as true, international Zionism on the part of the Jewish community.
I don't remember any Jews saying something about the Throne of David since 586 B. C. E..
This would appear to be a more crucial issue than "whose Holy Land" is in a few sites, or the legality of who owns some property 195 generations later. Spontaneously in 1897 it is the the United Kingdom and her divine mission on earth!
No proof is necessary.
No one really needs King David's DNA, or the Ark of the Covenant--it is like they finally discovered the truth after all these times of, apparently, shouldering scriptures for no reason.
The Ezekiel thing at least has the excuse of actually being the scripture.
This Throne belief is now the foundation of so many British and American churches that it may be incurable.
It is clever to maintain this as a "private belief" rather than a state law, so I, for example, never heard of it. We are made to think Zion is about the Jews, when, obviously it is not.
If anyone has been exposed to this and can offer insight, that would be helpful.
It explains warnings about our Constitution, such as a way "a minority can be easily oppressed", such as stealing our taxes to commit genocide while trying to hide this doctrine.
Secondly I found no echoes of this with the Orthodox. They are forced to accept the same Christian scripture, which only says the Second Coming would be in the House of David. There is no eschatology, battle cry, or obsession with bloodlines or property, is almost purely mystical.
Again it appears more true that Orthodoxy is Christianity, and the "denominations" are some kind of Messianic Judaism. Not sure what else to call it when you attempt to run an Empire based on a legend of a Judaic king, and use business and governmental enterprise, the economy and taxes, to make it look like something which it is not.
That is the Frankist concept, or, if you were born that way, it means you can be a Jewish Christian.
It will be easy to attach these "religions" to the current reputation of Anglo Zion. Already made that way.
Fair enough. If you had done this when it started, you would have been taken by a Witchfinder. This is just making it easier to undermine the whole mentality.
Ravenlocke
26th October 2023, 01:24
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Israel-Palestine war: Israel will flood Hamas tunnels with nerve gas under US navy supervision
Palestinian resistance groups expect Israel to flood Hamas tunnels with nerve gas and chemical weapons under the surveillance of US Delta Force commandos as part of a surprise attack on the Gaza Strip, a senior Arab source familiar with the groups told Middle East Eye.
Israel and the US hope to achieve the element of surprise in order to penetrate Hamas tunnels, rescue an estimated 220 hostages, and kill thousands of soldiers belonging to Hamas’s al-Qassam Brigades, the source said in a statement, noting that the information comes from a leak originating in the US.
Middle East Eye cannot independently verify the information in the leak.
“The plan hinges on the element of surprise so as to decisively win the battle, using internationally forbidden gases, particularly nerve gas, and chemical weapons. Large quantities of nerve gas would be pumped into the tunnels,” the source said.
US Delta Force will oversee “large quantities of nerve gas being pumped into Hamas tunnels, capable of paralyzing the bodily movement for a period of time between six and 12 hours."
"During this period, the tunnels would be penetrated, the hostages rescued and thousands of al-Qassam soldiers killed,” they added.
Middle East Eye reached out to the White House and US Department of Defence for comment but did not receive anything by the time of publication.
The US is engaging with Israel on its expected invasion of Gaza.
US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin has held near-daily phone calls with his Israeli counterpart, Yoav Gallant, to discuss operations, while senior US military officials with knowledge of urban warfare have been dispatched to Israel.
During Biden's visit to Israel last week, where he participated in a war planning session, President Biden accidentally shared a photograph that reportedly disclosed the faces of three Delta Force commandos advising Israel on hostage rescue. The post was later deleted.
Delta Force is an elite branch of the US Army Special Operations Forces. They are trained in hostage rescue, counterterrorism and "kill or capture" missions aimed at high-value targets.
They have first-hand experience participating in the rescue of hostages from the Islamic State (IS) group and conducting raids against the group's leaders as part of the US’s campaign to defeat IS.
Deception campaign
The leaked information says Israel's delay in its ground invasion is misinformation aimed at gaining the element of surprise in a multifaceted attack that will include Israeli commandos landing in northern Gaza and along the coast.
The operational details of the attack have already been agreed upon, according to the source.
On Wednesday, the Wall Street Journal reported that Israel had agreed to delay its expected ground invasion to allow the US more time to place air defence systems in the region. Netanyahu said later on Wednesday that Israel is preparing a ground invasion but gave no indication of timing or other details.
Israeli media outlets have also cited leaks regarding divisions within Israel’s three-member war cabinet made up of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Benny Gantz and Defence Minister Yoav Gallant.
The source said "though not without grounds" the reports "represent a deception attempt aimed at surprising the resistance" in the Gaza Strip.
The war erupted on 7 October after Hamas led an attack in southern Israel. According to Israeli officials, around 1,400 people were killed in Israel during the assault, the majority believed to be civilians. At least another 220 people were taken as prisoners to Gaza, including soldiers and civilians.
Israel has retaliated with a mass bombardment of Gaza that has killed at least 6,546 Palestinians, according to the Palestinian health ministry. More than 70 percent of those killed are children, women and the elderly
Ravenlocke
26th October 2023, 02:03
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Ravenlocke
26th October 2023, 02:15
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Ravenlocke
26th October 2023, 02:29
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gini
26th October 2023, 03:27
Israel-Hamas War: "I Refuse To Talk To Genocide Deniers!" Piers Morgan Debates Palestine With Panel
Piers Morgan Uncensored
Oct 25, 2023 #piersmorgan #palestine #israel
Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by the founder of 'Within Our Lifetime' and Pro-Palestinian activist Nerdeen Kiswani and author and broadcaster Emily Austin to debate the historical conflict between Israel and Palestine and why some people refuse to condemn Hamas' terrorist attack on October 7th.
The panel first give a brief reaction to Piers' heated debate with rapper and pro-Palestinian activist Lowkey and they debate his refusal to condemn the attacks.
Nerdeen then explains that Palestinians are tired of condemning the attacks on October 7th because it becomes the starting point of this conflict which goes back many years. -tlIg09t0Ui4
Chuck
26th October 2023, 07:17
Something to watch for in the coming days/weeks as this escalates, is the possibility of Israel's gas plants being targeted. Two large gas fields, the Tamar and Leviathan Gas fields were discovered in 2009 and 2010 as well as host of smaller fields in the vicinity. This gas has made Israel self sufficient for its energy needs and a boom for its economy. Once a net importer for fuel, Israel is assured energy independence for several decades to come as well as becoming a net exporter of fuel. These plants will likely become a target.
Is this what the Future Forecasting Group has been remotely visualising? Is this what the Polish clairvoyant Krzysztof Jackowski been seeing?
Tintin
26th October 2023, 10:54
[From cable 09TELAVIV1732] “Diskin said that the PSO shares with ISA [Shabak] almost all the intelligence that it collects”
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Placing this historical article here so that we can add this to the canon of literature. It doesn't necessarily reveal anything some of our more diligent researchers don't already know, but good to have on record.
As stated in the article (from December 2010) it was written before the subsequent 2011 tranche of US Embassy cable releases. The actual Wikileaks site has returned to its locked-out state so mirror sites (https://admi.net/archive/wikileaks.org/tag/KWBG_0.html) are the only option, for now. I've linked to the numbered cables here via Avalon library copies so that they can be seen in full. [NOTE: Shabak = Shin Bet].
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Wikileaks: Insights on Palestine from the Cables
Original source: Asa Winstanley (https://www.asawinstanley.com/2010/12/wikileaks-palestine-cables/)
Avalon Library source: https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/2010-12-25_Wikileaks_Insights_on_Palestine_from_the_Cables_%96_Asa_Winstanley.pdf
One of the first things that struck me while reading the cables from the US embassy to Israel in Tel Aviv was how worried the Israeli government seems to be about the Goldstone Report into war crimes committed during Israel’s 2008-2009 attack on the people of Gaza. In cable 09TELAVIV2777 (https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/09TELAVIV2777.pdf) of December 2009, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is said to have named the report as one of three “principal threats” facing Israel—the other two being Iran’s alleged nuclear programme and “missile proliferation”.
Second, there are important insights into the high level of collaboration between Israel and forces that have been called the “Palestinian Contras” in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip. Indeed, the first “cablegate” headline on Palestine was sourced from cable 09TELAVIV1177 (https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/09TELAVIV1177.pdf), in which Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak is reported to have said he “had consulted with Egypt and Fatah prior to Operation Cast Lead, asking if they were willing to assume control of Gaza once Israel defeated Hamas”. In other words, Fateh leader Mahmoud Abbas (whose term as PA president expired in January 2009) knew the massive Israeli onslaught was coming but said nothing. This was widely suspected, but to read confirmation of it from a confidential US government source is something new.
There’s more. Cable 07TELAVIV1732 (https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/07TELAVIV1732.pdf), which I like to call “War of the Puppets”, was released this week. To my mind, it’s the most interesting of the Palestine cables released so far. Written in June 2007 during Gaza street-fighting caused by the ultimately unsuccessful Fateh coup attempt, it details a meeting between then-ambassador Richard H. Jones and Yuval Diskin (head of Israel’s secret police, the Shabak—aka Shin Bet). It is a portrait of how divided Israel’s Palestinian collaborators really were. “[Gaza warlord Mohammed] Dahlan is trying to manage Fatah’s security forces by remote control. We are not even sure where he is… ” Diskin is quoted as saying. He continued: “[Dahlan’s men in Gaza] ask us to attack Hamas. This is a new development. We have never seen this before. They are desperate.” Again, this is all important corroborating evidence for things we already knew or suspected. Recent media reports of a power struggle between Abbas and Dahlan (whom Fateh elements close to the US now blame for “losing” Gaza) suggest little has changed in terms of Fateh infighting.
Diskin is also reported in 07TELAVIV1732 (https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/07TELAVIV1732.pdf) to have claimed the Shabak had “a very good working relationship with the [Palestinian Authority] Preventive Security Organization (PSO) and the General Intelligence Organization (GIO).” The most striking quote in the whole cable to me is this: “Diskin said that the PSO shares with ISA [Shabak] almost all the intelligence that it collects”.
There is also something of an overlooked smoking gun in this cable. Of Tawfik Tirawi, leader of the PA’s GIO: “Diskin said… he is trying to develop ties with the Dughmush family in the Gaza Strip.’” The Doghmush clan (aka the “Army of Islam”), you may recall, are the same group that in March 2007 kidnapped BBC journalist Alan Johnston (he was rescued by Hamas in July). While a Fateh connection to the group has long been suspected, to my knowledge this is the first confirmation of it from official sources.
Overall, this is a Palestinian Authority acting as nothing more than an extension of the Israeli occupation forces – a relationship that has only deepened in the last three-and-a-half years. However, there is a lot missing in the cables: little on the 2008-2009 Israeli assault on Gaza, nothing on the assassination of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in Dubai and little on the July 2006 Israeli war on Lebanon. Despite some rather unlikely conspiracy theories currently doing the rounds on the internet, the likely reasons for these gaps are more mundane. First, none of the cables are rated “Top Secret”; second the inherent bias of US government personnel towards Israel; and third, only a small fraction of the leaked cables have actually been published so far. Indeed, during an interview with Al Jazeera this week, Julian Assange claimed they had thousands of cables on Israel still to come, including material on the al-Mabhouh assassination and the July 2006 war.
Also, of note is a graph illustrating the composition of the cables cache on the Wikleaks website. It appears to show that around 2000 cables from the US consulate in Jerusalem are still to come. These could be more interesting than the cables released so far (almost all from the embassy in Tel Aviv).
To be continued, in all likelihood.
Bill Ryan
26th October 2023, 11:13
Something to watch for in the coming days/weeks as this escalates, is the possibility of Israel's gas plants being targeted. Two large gas fields, the Tamar and Leviathan Gas fields were discovered in 2009 and 2010 as well as host of smaller fields in the vicinity. This gas has made Israel self sufficient for its energy needs and a boom for its economy. Once a net importer for fuel, Israel is assured energy independence for several decades to come as well as becoming a net exporter of fuel. These plants will likely become a target.
Is this what the Future Forecasting Group has been remotely visualising? Is this what the Polish clairvoyant Krzysztof Jackowski been seeing?That's a very interesting question. I don't know what's been remote viewed, of course (no-one does know for sure, and no-one really CAN be sure), but the feeling I've always had the last few weeks is that what was 'seen' has not happened yet.
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ExomatrixTV
27th October 2023, 13:53
MEP Clare Daly- Speech from 26 Oct 2023
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Irish MEPs urge EU leaders to call for immediete ceasfire in Gaza
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ExomatrixTV
27th October 2023, 14:12
Israeli Military UPSET Israeli Hostages Are Being Released! Wait, Wut?!?!
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There are still more than 200 Israeli hostages being held in Gaza by Hamas and, surprisingly as it may seem, the Israeli army doesn’t want them released. The reason? Hostage releases may delay the planned ground invasion of Gaza by Israeli military forces. Jimmy and Kurt Metzger discuss what a PR disaster Israel faced with the recent release of two hostages who subsequently spoke well of their captors.
grapevine
27th October 2023, 14:14
The term genocide is not inappropriate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1I9JYqmkEM&ab_channel=GeorgeGalloway (20.59 mins)
Chris Hedges talking to George Galloway:
We’ve gone from the absurdity of criticising Israel as a form of anti-semitism to criticising genocide as a form of anti-semitism
Freed Hamas Hostage Yocheved Lif****z, 85, Says She Was "Treated Well" After Enduring "Hell"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzGd92axe_o
Hamas has released two Israeli civilians held hostage in Gaza, 79-year-old Nurit Cooper and 85-year-old Yocheved Lif****z, with the militant group saying they were let go for "humanitarian reasons and poor health grounds." Hamas shared a video of armed fighters releasing the elderly hostages that shows Lif****z reaching back to shake the hand of one of her captors and saying "Shalom" — the Hebrew word for "peace." We feature comments from Lif****z upon her release as she describes humane treatment by her captors and expresses criticism of Israel's intelligence failure, and we get a response from Palestinian American journalist Rami Khouri. "She represents probably the essence, I think, of what makes Judaism such a special religion. It is based on ethics … and the pursuit of justice," Khouri says. The struggle of Palestinians "is not with Jewish people. It is with the Zionist movement that became the state of Israel, which is widely recognized around the world as an apartheid system.
pyrangello
27th October 2023, 14:37
So our new speaker of the house wants to send more cash to Israel, to help secure their borders and iron dome, Funny how they cant secure the borders here in the states ,we have reached total incompetence now, oh the irony of hypocrisy.
Ravenlocke
27th October 2023, 15:36
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Gwin Ru
27th October 2023, 15:38
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... Scott Ritter's perspective:
Scott Ritter: Joe Biden and WWIII (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCPCqlB8jps) 26:34
Streamed live 18 hours ago
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Ravenlocke
27th October 2023, 15:39
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Ravenlocke
27th October 2023, 15:46
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Vicus
27th October 2023, 15:47
Colonel Douglas Macgregor tells Tucker US Special Forces secretly went into Gaza and were blown to bits… October 26, 2023
We’re all aware of the situation in the Middle East. This is a land dispute rooted in Biblical times, and it’s doubtful we’ll see a resolution in our lifetime. It’s a heart-wrenching scenario, but it’s not our battle. We’ve already lost countless brave men and women in that war-torn area. Now, our attention needs to turn to our own nation, which is dying before our very eyes, and nobody is coming to rescue us.
What’s truly concerning is that the Military-Industrial Complex craves war—it’s their ticket to billions. They’re masters at pushing out propaganda and stoking fears. Their goal? Persuading Americans on both sides of the political aisle that this is indeed “our battle,” especially when hostages are involved. Yet, as President Trump showed us, there are ways to secure hostages without resorting to warfare.
But that doesn’t seem to be the path the Biden regime is taking, and the consequences could be dire. Based on one general’s account, we’ve faced significant attacks and suffered numerous casualties in Gaza. Big, bad, and very bloody losses.
Insights from Colonel Douglas McGregor. He claims that US special forces entered the Gaza Strip and "were shot to pieces and suffered heavy casualties" pic.twitter.com/5c8bGMWvSr
— Sprinter (@Sprinter99800) October 24, 2023
A retired US colonel announced the death of American special forces in the Gaza Strip
Colonel Douglas McGregor told TV host Tucker Carlson that the United States had already allegedly attempted to carry out an operation to free hostages from Hamas captivity. According to McGregor, the operation was carried out with the assistance of Israel and was a complete failure:
(Video at 9:45) “As we have seen very recently, within the last 24 hours or so, some of our special forces and Israeli special forces have gone into the Gaza Strip to conduct reconnaissance and plan where they can go to release the hostages and exert influence. And they were shot and suffered heavy losses, as far as I understand” McGregor said.
The colonel’s words should not be taken at face value, because he did not provide any evidence. On the other hand, McGregor still has enough connections in the army to be privy to even such shameful details.
In any case, even if such a failure occurred, the command of the US Armed Forces will do everything to hide it even from its own citizens, and possibly from the White House.
We can’t independently verify Colonel McGregor’s statements, but we do know he’s a high-ranking figure with deep connections. It wouldn’t be out of the ordinary for someone of his stature to have access to such information. So, keeping all of that in mind, this is deeply concerning and truly heartbreaking. It’s always devastating to hear about any American falling in combat, especially in situations like these.
https://revolver.news/2023/10/colonel-douglas-mcgregor-tucker-carlson-us-special-forces-in-gaza-were-blown-to-bits/
Ravenlocke
27th October 2023, 15:53
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1717862411372298501
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https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1717864481949204829
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Ravenlocke
27th October 2023, 15:59
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1717905003816288571
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ExomatrixTV
27th October 2023, 15:59
“Free Speech Warriors” Turn Into SNOWFLAKES Over Palestine!:
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In recent years certain high profile avatars of the right have begun self-identifying as “free speech warriors,” opposing efforts to deny campus speaking opportunities to other right-wingers, calling out social media platforms for banning controversial accounts and raling against “cancel culture.” But in light of the recent Hamas attacks, Gaza bombardment and subsequent protests in favor of Palestinian rights, previous free speech absolutists like Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin and Laura Loomer are calling for the cancelling of individuals whose speech they disagree with. Jimmy and Kurt Metzger discuss, yet again, how supporting free speech means supporting the rights of people whose speech you abhor.
Ravenlocke
27th October 2023, 16:02
https://x.com/TheDuranReal/status/1717783046307377522
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Vicus
27th October 2023, 16:02
What Really Happened on 7th October?
Robert Inlakesh & Sharmine Narwani
The Cradle
Tue, 24 Oct 2023
news headlines
Evidence is now emerging that up to half the Israelis killed were combatants; that Israeli forces were responsible for some of their own civilian deaths; and that Tel Aviv disseminated false 'Hamas atrocities' stories to justify its devastating air assault on Palestinian civilians in Gaza.
Two weeks after the Hamas breakout assault on Israel on 7 October, a clearer picture of what happened - who died, and who killed - is now beginning to emerge.
Instead of the wholescale massacre of civilians claimed by Israel, incomplete figures published by the Hebrew newspaper Haaretz show that almost half the Israelis killed that day were in fact combatants - soldiers or police.
In the interim, two weeks of blanket western media reporting that Hamas allegedly killed around 1,400 Israeli civilians during its 7 October military attack has served to inflame emotions and create the climate for Israel's unconstrained destruction of the Gaza Strip and its civilian population.
Accounts of the Israeli death toll have been filtered and shaped to suggest that a wholesale civilian massacre occurred that day, with babies, children, and women the main targets of a terror attack.
Now, detailed statistics on the casualties released by the Israeli daily Haaretz paint a starkly different picture. As of 23 October, the news outlet has released information on 683 Israelis killed during the Hamas-led offensive, including their names and locations of their deaths on 7 October.
Of these, 331 casualties - or 48.4 percent - have been confirmed to be soldiers and police officers, many of them female. Another 13 are described as rescue service members, and the remaining 339 are ostensibly considered to be civilians.
While this list is not comprehensive and only accounts for roughly half of Israel's stated death toll, almost half of those killed in the melee are clearly identified as Israeli combatants.
There are also so far no recorded deaths of children under the age of three, which throws into question the Israeli narrative that babies were targeted by Palestinian resistance fighters. Of the 683 total casualties reported thus far, seven were between the ages of 4 and 7, and nine between the ages of 10 and 17. The remaining 667 casualties appear to be adults.
https://www.sott.net/image/s34/690564/large/1_Age_distribution_of_the_Isra.jpg
The numbers and proportion of Palestinian civilians and children among those killed by Israeli bombardment over the past two weeks - over 5,791 killed, including 2,360 children and 1,292 women, and more than 18,000 injured - are far higher than any of these Israeli figures from the events of 7 October.
Revisiting the scene
continue:
https://www.sott.net/article/485405-What-Really-Happened-on-7th-October
grapevine
27th October 2023, 17:46
Biden neocon war drums beat louder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sDid2wVgRU&ab_channel=TheDuran (40.10 mins)
The fuller version of Ravenlock's Duran clip above. Alexander says the amount of USA military heading towards the Middle East is indicative of a likely strike on Iran, which is very worrying.
shaberon
27th October 2023, 19:31
It turns out the minor missiles (https://sputnikglobe.com/20231027/nearly-20-soldiers-diagnosed-with-traumatic-brain-injuries-in-iraq-syria-amid-base-attacks-1114514275.html) arriving at the various bases do exactly as Trump said:
The US Department of Defense confirmed on Thursday that 19 US service personnel suffered what has been described as “traumatic brain injuries" during recent attacks against troops stationed at bases in Syria and Iraq.
No details were provided on the severity of the injuries.
In Trump's case it affected everyone who was outside. So, that does sound like proximity to a blast while perhaps having a physical barrier from the shrapnel. Not complete misses, anyway.
SilentFeathers
27th October 2023, 20:25
Sounds like Israel just entered Gaza with ground forces/tanks, etc.
Israel at war: IDF steps up ground operations, tanks enter Gaza
IDF ground troops are expanding their efforts inside Gaza to dismantle the Hamas terrorist infrastructure, IDF Spokesman Daniel Hagari said Friday evening.
Palestinian media reported that Israeli tanks assumed positions within the Gaza Strip late on Friday.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/2023-10-27/live-updates-770419
Rawhide68
27th October 2023, 20:29
This is fabricated, a long time awaited.
ExomatrixTV
27th October 2023, 21:59
Douglas Macgregor: "THIS IS IT! We Are On the Brink of a Total WW3...":
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Kryztian
28th October 2023, 03:10
From Lee Fang and Glenn Greenwald: between 40 and 50 congressmen have evangelical beliefs about Isreal based on the Book of Revelation in the Bible. They put their faith and interpretation of Biblical scripture ahead of concerns about peace, security and human rights in hopes that their pushing towards a situation of nuclear war will bring about Jesus's second coming. :facepalm:
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Mike Gorman
28th October 2023, 04:56
Wow...so much talk, the volume of media analysis has spiked to record heights here, alternative media has genuinely gained significant traction and for the first time in over 40 years we have true multiple discourse and challenges to mainstream, corporate news sausage factories. What I might say, or not is going to have precisely ZERO impact, I am not here to persuade you, or argue with you: I generally respond to what I see/hear and attempt to share with selected people how I see it; build a perspective which I keep open and available for editing/changing.
As Scott Ritter so eloquently suggests: Israel has lost the PR battle here, if they pursue killing civilians in the way they are doing presently, and seem to be planning to do more of, they will not only lose this battle, it could lead to Armageddon for the whole world, and this appears to be what the deranged Obama - led administration wants! Israel could be the 'good guys' here and totally remove Hamas's advantage, allow humanitarian aid, call for negotiations, instead they are flexing, trying to be tough and seek revenge.
Scott has called it, Douglas Macgregor has called it, these two along with The Duran team, Russell Brand(!), Trigonometry team, RT, Steve Bannon, Alex Jones & team and a few others are all we have as voices of sanity. God bless us all, I wish peace and prosperity to all.
shaberon
28th October 2023, 07:42
From Lee Fang and Glenn Greenwald: between 40 and 50 congressmen have evangelical beliefs about Isreal based on the Book of Revelation in the Bible. They put their faith and interpretation of Biblical scripture ahead of concerns about peace, security and human rights in hopes that their pushing towards a situation of nuclear war will bring about Jesus's second coming.
This and the president is the impossible Catholic Zionist. The Pope himself told Herzl to his face "sorry I can't help you".
2021 (https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/01/04/faith-on-the-hill-2021/):
Nearly nine-in-ten members of Congress identify as Christian (88%), compared with two-thirds of the general public (65%).
Over the last several Congresses, there has been a marked increase in the share of members who identify themselves simply as Protestants or as Christians without further specifying a denomination. There are now 96 members of Congress in this category (18%).
Jewish members also make up a larger share of Congress than they do of the general public (6% vs. 2%).
2023 is similar but adding a Messianic Jew (https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2023/01/03/faith-on-the-hill-2023/).
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2022/12/PF_2023.01.03_religion-congress_00-03.png
"Restoration" may describe the Puritans, and may mean restoration of Jews in Palestine, depending on who's saying it.
Some Anglican Brits don't go for it, but, the U. S. is Zionist from the beginnings of Yale and Harvard Universities and second president John Adams.
I must admit I have spent a lifetime on the receiving end of denigrations from such folk, and, in the past few months, I have gotten a better look at what is under the hood.
It's totally pathetic.
On this, the Pope was merely repeating the Council of Ephesus. That is how long it has been established as an anti-Christian belief.
On the British Isles you could at least fight and argue about it, but, here, it is kind of a default unless you have some other influence. The actual peak of the Protestants in Congress was 91% in 1970, right there along with Billy Graham's Crusade at Madison Square Gardens NYC, 1969. Maybe that is why Martin Luther King believed it.
You are right, this whole thing goes on because of what a few English speakers think about the Bible.
Bruce G Charlton
28th October 2023, 08:09
I believe the idea of explaining powerful people's behaviour in the modern West and among contemporary Globalists in terms of their religion is a complete red herring.
Religion has not been a primary motivator in the West for several decades.
The religion (of whatever church or denomination) is continuously being 'updated' to track the imperatives of mainstream materialist totalitarian politics (https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/search?q=litmus+tests), and stay on the safe side of whatever Establishment core agenda happens to be active at the moment.
In 2020 all the major churches (of all denominations), all over the world, closed themselves - willingly, without objecting - enthusiastically, and for many months (and without knowing the end point) ceased their previously mandatory ministrations, meetings, sacraments, communal prayers, baptisms, funerals, etc etc. Against all religious traditions, and in-line with political instructions.
We live in a world where, for the first time in human history, religion has (for the most powerful people) been abolished, and for the rest, reduced to an optional-lifestyle status.
It would be more valid to seek reasons for current mainstream global/ Western geopolitics in the lack of religion, than to explain politics in terms of being driven-by religion.
Tintin
28th October 2023, 08:31
I believe the idea of explaining powerful people's behaviour in the modern West and among contemporary Globalists in terms of their religion is a complete red herring.
Religion has not been a primary motivator in the West for several decades.
The religion (of whatever church or denomination) is continuously being 'updated' to track the imperatives of mainstream materialist totalitarian politics (https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/search?q=litmus+tests), and stay on the safe side of whatever Establishment core agenda happens to be active at the moment.
In 2020 all the major churches (of all denominations), all over the world, closed themselves - willingly, without objecting - enthusiastically, and for many months (and without knowing the end point) ceased their previously mandatory ministrations, meetings, sacraments, communal prayers, baptisms, funerals, etc etc. Against all religious traditions, and in-line with political instructions.
We live in a world where, for the first time in human history, religion has (for the most powerful people) been abolished, and for the rest, reduced to an optional-lifestyle status.
It would be more valid to seek reasons for current mainstream global/ Western geopolitics in the lack of religion, than to explain politics in terms of being driven-by religion.
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Absolutely spot on :handshake:
Yoda
28th October 2023, 11:20
From Lee Fang and Glenn Greenwald: between 40 and 50 congressmen have evangelical beliefs about Isreal based on the Book of Revelation in the Bible. They put their faith and interpretation of Biblical scripture ahead of concerns about peace, security and human rights in hopes that their pushing towards a situation of nuclear war will bring about Jesus's second coming. :facepalm:
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In James Redfield's "The Twelfth Insight:The Hour of Decision", Judaism, Christianity and Islam, were all competing to force their individual "Savior" to come eradicate the other sect.
The Twelfth Insight
https://www.amazon.ca/Twelfth-Insight-Hour-Decision/dp/0446575941/ref=asc_df_0446575941/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292974279990&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13015530602551833192&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000718&hvtargid=pla-525121818161&psc=1
SilentFeathers
28th October 2023, 11:56
From Lee Fang and Glenn Greenwald: between 40 and 50 congressmen have evangelical beliefs about Isreal based on the Book of Revelation in the Bible. They put their faith and interpretation of Biblical scripture ahead of concerns about peace, security and human rights in hopes that their pushing towards a situation of nuclear war will bring about Jesus's second coming. :facepalm:
usYIQ-JVWQw
(11 minutes)
In James Redfield's "The Twelfth Insight:The Hour of Decision", Judaism, Christianity and Islam, were all competing to force their individual "Savior" to come eradicate the other sect.
The Twelfth Insight
https://www.amazon.ca/Twelfth-Insight-Hour-Decision/dp/0446575941/ref=asc_df_0446575941/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292974279990&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13015530602551833192&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000718&hvtargid=pla-525121818161&psc=1
The globalist/far left ideology is the new religion, you either assimilate to it or be cancelled. The globalists will likely soon put a face to this ideology and claim it's the "Savior" to all the world's religions. The Israel/Gaza situation is phase 1 to ushering in this Savior. The upcoming great war, some gigantic event likely using some AI tricks to usher in the savior, will cause many of the worlds religions to believe this new face/savior/peacemaker is real thing. Instead of being cancelled if you don't assimilate, you'll be snuffed out of existence.
It's a win win for the globalists, prophecy fulfilled and complete control....
(me just speculating of course)
shaberon
28th October 2023, 12:02
I believe the idea of explaining powerful people's behaviour in the modern West and among contemporary Globalists in terms of their religion is a complete red herring.
Religion has not been a primary motivator in the West for several decades.
The religion (of whatever church or denomination) is continuously being 'updated' to track the imperatives of mainstream materialist totalitarian politics (https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/search?q=litmus+tests), and stay on the safe side of whatever Establishment core agenda happens to be active at the moment.
For example when George Bush claimed God told him to invade Iraq, that was irrelevant?
"Contemporary Globalists" are already defined by Zionism, Germany and Russia = The Enemy. It is true that it is simply indistinguishable from British Imperialism at that point, or, let us say, it was a small new idea in 1730 announced as state policy in 1830.
I would have to say religion is a *huge* motivating factor, at the very least in terms of public support for the imperial actions. That means $$$ donations and influence. Someone is pleasing a constituency.
The two things are already fused. It may be possible that some PNAC members were not church-goers, but, we have the ability to peep most modern persons' affiliations at the very least. For example Lindsey Graham (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey_Graham):
A Southern Baptist, he is a member of the Corinth Baptist Church.
That would be called "living in a nest of Zionists".
On August 8, 2021, Graham became the first fully vaccinated senator to test positive for COVID-19.
That would be called "much ado about nothing".
Plenty of churches are or were against mainstream narratives.
On matters concerning Russia and Zion particularly, I really do not see how it can be de-coupled from religious doctrines that are the sub-strate of the modern English language. Yes, it would seem these doctrines are not in the original scripture, and, were crafted by various hands until 1897, and this is still the same state of affairs now. At that time they did not know they were going to make Covid vaccines, or specialize in aircraft carriers, so a few things are "not applicable" to Biblical quotes.
Current western geopolitics appear to be to evaporate from multiple continents, so it would seem to me to take some fine sifting to pan out the irreligious from the Zionist motivations. It's not supposed to answer everything, it is really only about Russia and Israel, and I don't think that just goes away. I don't know how it could be conveniently updated for new enemies either. Plus its modus operandi has always been to get you to worry about someone else other than Protestant Fundamentalists.
It is actually pretty simple to note what the limited number of Zionist interpretations are, where, and through whom, they propagate, and then of course it would be fair and useful to take *everything* into consideration. Secondly this gives the ability to re-educate someone back out of it because on the "followers" side, it would be a lot of "this is how I was raised".
shaberon
28th October 2023, 12:17
The globalist/far left ideology is the new religion, you either assimilate to it or be cancelled. The globalists will likely soon put a face to this ideology and claim it's the "Savior" to all the world's religions. The Israel/Gaza situation is phase 1 to ushering in this Savior.
That can be summarized in two words:
New Age
Messiahs used to be found every few years and Millenialism is a recurring tactic since year 1,000.
What would be "new" as described would be the use of any, all religions, anything, for it to come true. This, is relatively new, ca. 1930s (e. g. Krishnamurti).
The remedy here is explaining "the Savior" and secondly instead of Eight Great Religions, upon closer inspection, eastern spiritual traditions are not religions. So this thing is a theory, rapidly dismissed.
That would not stop anyone from trying. The "good news" is that these strategies or plans don't work. They cost something.
The west does not win anything here.
shaberon
28th October 2023, 12:23
Also, while it is communications-dark over there in Gaza, there is simply a brief statement (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1952997):
Palestinian resistance thwarted several Israeli incursions into Gaza strip overnight, as Israeli warplanes ramped up strikes against civilians in the besieged enclave.
Hamas Palestinian resistance group announced on Saturday the failure of the Israeli ground attack, saying significant losses were inflicted upon the occupation forces.
“The enemy fell into ambushes set up by the Palestinian resistance on three fronts,” Hamas said in a statement, adding that resistance fighters used Kornet anti-tank missiles and Yassin shells against occupation forces.
The Israeli occupation used helicopters to evacuate the wounded and the dead from the battlefield, the group stated, expecting that the Israeli occupation will try further incursions.
ExomatrixTV
28th October 2023, 12:26
"Netanyahu Invokes Biblical Prophecy As Israel Launches Invasion Of Gaza"
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Nothing to see, here, just a cult member ("Chabad", whose members think the Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneersohn was the Messiah--Bibi is on video consulting with "the Rebbe") heading up a nuclear power whom US tax payers are obliged to fund--and, yet, if CHRISTIANS want to run things by the Bible, we're "Theocrats like ISIS or the Taliban".
The HYPOCRISY IS OUTRAGEOUS.
Tintin
28th October 2023, 14:21
Wow, this is some turnout in London. It reminds me of the February 2003 march I was on :muscle:
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Lunesoleil
28th October 2023, 14:23
We can go further than my previous comment.
This event began in the perimeter of eclipses, with a solar eclipse in conjunction with the south node, relative to the past. We pay these debts.
We can compare the 39/45 war with the number of Jewish deaths and today of Palestinian deaths.
History has been repeating itself since the dawn of time and for as long as we can remember for 2000 years, wars have occurred in four corners of the planet, one ends and another ends.
Who cares today about Ukraine?, about Syria? women in Iran? ect... peace in the world is an illusion?, humans are not capable of being at peace with themselves …
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thepainterdoug
28th October 2023, 14:52
lunesoleil I have always said its the human being itself, that is the problem. Whatever the system, be it freedom, or not, at the end of the day the complexity of the human, driven by its ego and need to be right, need to win, will in time pervert every best social system. I have always said the USA constitution and way of life is the BEST of all BAD systems.
We are complex creatures, we want, and when we get, we no longer want want we wanted. We are hypocrites , do as I say, not as I do. In a crisis we will hoard rather then be sensible and share with others in need. We are in constant competition and in fear and self preservation.
All that being said, thats why we are here. Thats why we left a perfect spirit non physical world. To do all this stuff and celebrate its wins and suffer its losses and grow for some weird reason.
hey not my choice of systems but it seems to be the way it is. Many who have crossed over have said, all is perfect as it is, but it very hard for a earthrealm mind to reason and comprehend this
Tintin
28th October 2023, 14:54
Posting from Kevork Almassian's Twitter (https://twitter.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/1718233562128810038) account. shared today:
I'm posting this two-segment video to set the record straight; there is credible information that indicates Israel, with the backing of the United States, intends to assassinate Syria's President Bashar al-Assad if Hezbollah opens a wide front from southern Lebanon.
To put this in proper context; since 2011, the U.S. waged a secret covert operation in Syria to topple Assad and install a friendly government in Israel.
To achieve this goal, the U.S. and its regional allies spent tens of billions in arming and training multinational takfiri terrorist groups. According to the New York Times, the secret program (Timber Sycamore) was one of the most expensive CIA covert operations in the history of the agency.
However, Syria emerged victorious and the terror groups were mostly destroyed with the help of Iran, Russia, and Hezbollah.
While President Trump ended the covert operation in 2017, the Pentagon sent troops to the Eastern shore of the Euphrates to occupy the oil and gas fields and hence, disallow the Syrian government from using the revenues of the oil to reconstruct the war-torn country.
The pro-Syria alliance believes the CIA's attempt to remove Assad was urged by Israel because a pro-Israeli government in Damascus means the isolation of Hezbollah and eventually the Palestinian militant groups fighting against Israel.
With the escalation of the conflict in Palestine and the carpet bombing of Gaza, it is believed that Hezbollah has mobilized its elite forces and kept 1/3 of the Israeli army busy on the northern front by firing ATGMs and rockets at the Israeli forces.
But if Israel wages a full-scale invasion of Gaza, it is believed that Hezbollah will intervene and wage a ground offensive on the settlements in northern Israel.
If Hezbollah's offensive materializes, my information indicates that Israel will bomb Damascus and try to kill Assad.
Will Israel dare to do that? - I believe with the current mentality governing Tel Aviv, everything is possible.
NOTE: the above text is an analysis based on my personal knowledge and different sources. It is not wishful thinking or scaremongering. It is simply a political analysis based on the available information to me.
The first guest is @DanielLMcAdams on Syriana Analysis and the second speaker is the former British diplomat and MI6 agent Alastair Crooke on the New Rules channel.
And Patrick Henningsen - from 21st Century Wire - shared this interesting video which delves into the events of October 7th, which were always fuggy, to say the very least:
Text:
"The entire Israel-Western narrative of Oct 7th is built on lies, and is being used to justify the most inhumane war crimes we are all witnessing now in #Gaza…."
Source: https://twitter.com/21WIRE/status/1718229269858664685
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Matthew
28th October 2023, 15:18
Easy to see how this could escalate in your town, depending on your town's demography. More general western military involvement in Gaza could trigger civil wars all round the world. Now is the time for non-Jesus religions to swap hate for love, or it gets hotter and hotter unfolding in a terribly way. But that won't happen and it's so very predictable/prophesiable. It's a spiritual trap with only a narrow path to avoid it.
Arcturian108
28th October 2023, 15:38
This may or not belong in this thread, but in response to Dennis calling "Palestine" a state, I believe that this Israeli makes it pretty clear that it never was a "state". It originally was a creation of the ancient Romans when they owned Israel and wanted to demote the Jews by creating a false entity they named "Palestine". The Arab countries around Israel all hate the "Palestinians" as they always cause trouble when exported to their countries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNf40sBcvKk
Arcturian108
28th October 2023, 15:43
Furthermore, I don't know who this Arab Muslim guy is, but we never hear the opinions of individual Arabs about "Palestinians" so here goes:
https://twitter.com/HumanDilemma_/status/1713887268501405957
gnostic9
28th October 2023, 15:45
RASHI’s Brutal Plan to Take Out Hezbollah, Conquer Damascus and Destroy the Gaza Strip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVundsUdoiU
Love peace and joy to all!
thepainterdoug
28th October 2023, 16:11
Will it all get pushed to the insane Samson option?
I believe it is truly possible.
And I have never seen or heard a moment of bringing together, calling for peace, an attempt to ease tension for our own country or anyone else's by this inept criminal puppet clown in his fake office
and I am continually in shock that anyone anywhere for any reason would actually vote for this criminal again
And yet they will . go figure that out
Dennis Leahy
28th October 2023, 16:19
Arcturian108, I find that Zionist apologist's video to be disgusting, and am deeply saddened to have seen it appear at all on Avalon.
ExomatrixTV
28th October 2023, 16:21
Israel & the Myth of 'Self Defence' | David Hearst:
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source (https://www.facebook.com/DoubleDownNews/videos/1424850751798442)
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/j/L/P/v/jLPvn.gaa.mp4
source (https://rumble.com/v3p8d3d-israel-and-the-myth-of-self-defence-double-down-news.html)
thepainterdoug
28th October 2023, 17:45
John
great report. I watched the top one. seems a sensible assessment to me.
Dorjezigzag
28th October 2023, 18:17
I'm really not surprised events are moving to the next stage now in Israel as it is a full moon partial lunar eclipse (https://astrologicalmusings.com/partial-lunar-eclipse-of-28-29-october-2023-what-it-foretells-for-india-and-the-world/) this evening in Israel. I did mean to say to look out for it.
I never felt the solar eclipse earlier this month would be particularly significant for Israel as it was in the USA not Israel
I have had my own experience with intense events in Israel and a full moon lunar eclipse I did share my story on this thread earlier
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Hamas-a-New-Middle-East-War&p=1582004&viewfull=1#post1582004
Mari
28th October 2023, 18:58
Wow...so much talk, the volume of media analysis has spiked to record heights here, alternative media has genuinely gained significant traction and for the first time in over 40 years we have true multiple discourse and challenges to mainstream, corporate news sausage factories. What I might say, or not is going to have precisely ZERO impact, I am not here to persuade you, or argue with you: I generally respond to what I see/hear and attempt to share with selected people how I see it; build a perspective which I keep open and available for editing/changing.
As Scott Ritter so eloquently suggests: Israel has lost the PR battle here, if they pursue killing civilians in the way they are doing presently, and seem to be planning to do more of, they will not only lose this battle, it could lead to Armageddon for the whole world, and this appears to be what the deranged Obama - led administration wants! Israel could be the 'good guys' here and totally remove Hamas's advantage, allow humanitarian aid, call for negotiations, instead they are flexing, trying to be tough and seek revenge.
Scott has called it, Douglas Macgregor has called it, these two along with The Duran team, Russell Brand(!), Trigonometry team, RT, Steve Bannon, Alex Jones & team and a few others are all we have as voices of sanity. God bless us all, I wish peace and prosperity to all.
Lets not forget Neil Oliver's take earlier this evening on GBNews. Excellent summary, imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loS-2xSqPus
Bill Ryan
28th October 2023, 18:59
I believe that this Israeli makes it pretty clear that it never was a "state". It originally was a creation of the ancient Romans when they owned Israel and wanted to demote the Jews by creating a false entity they named "Palestine". The Arab countries around Israel all hate the "Palestinians" as they always cause trouble when exported to their countries:It's worth discussing, and here are several points to consider.
In this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Hamas-a-New-Middle-East-War&p=1582272&viewfull=1#post1582272) of mine 11 days ago, I shared images of a coin from 1927 and a stamp from 1947, the latter just before Israel very violently seized most of what the Palestinians had regarded as their own land. Here are the images again:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PLoAAOSwWbNkZx-q/s-l500.png
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3dd3a6d204f9e90bf269d8680b7dde15
Now, stamps and coins may not mean everything in international law, but here's a National Geographic map as well, also from 1947:
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/National_Geographic_Palestine_1947_map.jpg
In that last post of mine (where I shared the map), I said:
"The history of Israel" might warrant its own thread, of course, but it really is relevant here. Nothing in the Middle East will ever be resolved until the Palestinian injustice is addressed.
There's a detailed (and as best I know historically accurate) Wikipedia page on the 'two-state solution', which is being widely discussed and recommended again right now, including by Joe Biden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution
To risk a brief summary in one paragraph, most political observers, and politicians themselves, from a wide spectrum of countries and backgrounds, strongly advocate that Palestine should be a formally recognized sovereign nation-state in its own right.
There are strong arguments that this would eliminate all the tension and deep-seated hatred and resentment that is passed down from generation to generation on both sides of the divide. The issue is that though this was voted on and recommended decades ago in a 1974 United Nations resolution, Israel, thus far also supported by the US, has refused to implement it.
So whether Palestine "ever was a state" might be seen as a somewhat abstruse historical debating point, and there are some nuances in there which proponents of every position can draw on to make their case — whatever it might be.
The most important issue now seems to be that Palestine should be a state. In every informed political discussion about this crisis, we'll hear the 'two-state-solution' being referenced. And whatever differing factions may have been present before, right now the Arab/Muslim world appears to be fully united about this.
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norman
28th October 2023, 19:18
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The Last American Vagabond - Evidence Shows Israel Killed Own Citizens On The 7th & 53 UN Staff, Journalists Deliberately Killed (https://podbay.fm/p/the-last-american-vagabond/e/1698441225)
4 hour 7 minutes - Posted Oct 27, 2023
SHOW NOTES
Welcome to The Daily Wrap Up, a concise show dedicated to bringing you the most relevant independent news, as we see it, from the last 24 hours (10/27/23).
As always, take the information discussed in the video below and research it for yourself, and come to your own conclusions. Anyone telling you what the truth is, or claiming they have the answer, is likely leading you astray, for one reason or another. Stay Vigilant.
All Video Source Links Can Be Found Here At The Last American Vagabond: https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/evidence-israel-kills-own-citizens
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Arcturian108
28th October 2023, 19:36
Arcturian108, I find that Zionist apologist's video to be disgusting, and am deeply saddened to have seen it appear at all on Avalon.
Dennis: Why are you taking this so personally? I am trying to stay somewhat aloof from the maddening rush to accuse, even though I have more of a stake in Israel than hardly anyone else on the Avalon site, besides Israelis of course. You can ask me about this privately some time. I just find all opinions on the subject of the Middle East conflict interesting, and wish to hear more from all sides.
I am curious as to why that particular Arab Muslim has those particular opinions, when he doesn't fit the mold of what we would expect. I guess we will never know, but somehow he feels to me to be elitist in the Arab world, if his pristine outfit indicates to others, as it does to me.
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 19:45
https://x.com/dana916/status/1718322865479598532
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IDF expanding operations.
UN, 14 votes against ceasefire.
EU downgrades Ukraine, €53B blocked. U/1
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 19:53
https://x.com/UNRWA/status/1717878743681663457
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Bill Ryan
28th October 2023, 20:01
https://x.com/UNRWA/status/1717878743681663457
1717878743681663457This may need a reference. :flower:
UNRWA is the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East.
https://unrwa.org
:focus:
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:02
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1718322417142288583
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718341959369007410
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https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1718320357445161423
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Gwin Ru
28th October 2023, 20:03
...
... for a different background history of the current situation to way back to Moses and Abraham to a projection into the near future:
Kinetic (https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b/kinetic:1) 35:55
October 28, 2023
roypotterqa
(https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b)@RoystonPotter
(https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIcEL2OvjTc
@RoystonPotter:b/kinetic:1
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:04
Text:
🔴 RECAP #Israel #Palestine (as of 18:00 GMT, 28 October)
1. Death toll in Gaza rises to 7,703 reports health ministry - including more than 3,500 children - after after the heaviest night of bombing yet
2. Israeli drones have dropped leaflets on residents in Gaza saying that the besieged enclave has been turned into "a battlefield"
3. Speaking live, al-Qassam Brigades spokesperson Abu Ubaida said that "Israeli bombing has killed 50 of the captives so far" and that "Israel knows the cost of freeing the captives"
4. Netanyahu’s office says he will meet this evening with the families of those taken captive by Hamas on 7 October
5. Tens of thousands of pro-Palestine supporters demonstrated in central London on Saturday to demand Israel halt its bombing campaign
6. Demonstrations have erupted across Israel in support of the captives' families, and calling for the removal of Prime Minister Netanyahu
7. Turkey's President Erdogan said "Hamas is not a terrorist organisation, but Israel is the occupier" while speaking at a pro-Palestine rally in Istanbul
🔴 Live updates: https://middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-live-gaza-hamas-war-invasion
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1718315054225817822
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:08
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718326185854160982
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:12
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718358944748351806
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:16
https://x.com/shadabansari40/status/1718301089756574168
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https://x.com/omi_sheikh1779/status/1718344187232330035
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https://x.com/DailyNewsbyMH/status/1718280344124682669
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https://x.com/Greenpower876/status/1718349860745715757
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718351292781801753
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:25
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718339471555354867
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https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1718343613237625078
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https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1718342819700519324
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https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/lebanese-parliament-speaker-announces-support-to-hezbollah-o
Lebanese parliament speaker announces support for Hezbollah operations
The Speaker of the Lebanese Parliament, Nabih Berri, affirmed in a letter responding to his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf that he supports any action taken by Hezbollah if the Israeli aggression on Gaza Strip continues.
Ghalibaf earlier sent a message to the Speaker to brief him on the diplomatic steps taken by Iran regarding the developments in occupied Palestine. The message was relayed to Berri through Ibrahim Azizi, the Deputy Chairman of the National Security Committee of the Iranian Parliament.
The top Lebanese official praised the Islamic Republic for adopting the "best stances" in the current situation regarding Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, noting that Tehran had always taken "the best positions regarding the Palestinian cause."
On his part, the spokesperson for the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Nasser Kanaani pointed out in a post on X that the Israeli occupation entity has escalated its crimes in Gaza and the killings of Palestinians, despite the worldwide protests and UNGA resolution.
He added that the Zionists' strikes on Gaza "amount to non-stop attacks on the conscience of the human community, moral and human principles, global peace and security, human rights and binding international laws and regulations."
"If it weren’t for the support offered by the US and some Western governments, would the Zionists dare commit so many crimes and genocide against Palestinians?"
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:28
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718342298436571471
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:31
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718327263177982146
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Dennis Leahy
28th October 2023, 20:33
Arcturian108, I find that Zionist apologist's video to be disgusting, and am deeply saddened to have seen it appear at all on Avalon.
Dennis: Why are you taking this so personally? I am trying to stay somewhat aloof from the maddening rush to accuse, even though I have more of a stake in Israel than hardly anyone else on the Avalon site, besides Israelis of course. You can ask me about this privately some time. I just find all opinions on the subject of the Middle East conflict interesting, and wish to hear more from all sides.
I am curious as to why that particular Arab Muslim has those particular opinions, when he doesn't fit the mold of what we would expect. I guess we will never know, but somehow he feels to me to be elitist in the Arab world, if his pristine outfit indicates to others, as it does to me.
The video in Post #836.
"Taking it personally?", well you posted it in the thread about Trump 'not the answer' where I am involved in a heated debate about Trump's complicity in the Deep State agenda Zionist Israel "situation", and your post had nothing whatsoever to do with the conversation but was rather thread-jacking.
Posting that video is not an "aloof" stance, quite obviously. That video basically accuses Palestinians as being vermin, as well as having no historical rights to the land of their ancestors. Maybe, since you are flying an Aussie flag, if it was a video accusing aboriginal Australians as being vermin and deserving to be killed, expelled, or put in a concentration camp - maybe then you'd see how disgusting it is.
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:36
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718367078380454380
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https://x.com/PalestineChron/status/1718336722973372871
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:41
https://x.com/PalestineChron/status/1718260195812417629
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:44
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718312447151313182
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718295604554576314
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 20:50
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718260628454814139
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 21:02
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718371609323454743
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 21:07
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1715750861652275338
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 21:10
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1718353333138629089
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https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1718374145778409877
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https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1718369374577234031
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 21:20
https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1718374808230986106
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Bill Ryan
28th October 2023, 21:26
The video is just one minute, with English captions. Well worth watching — and listening. Few people do emotion quite like the Italians. :flower::muscle:
(And listen to the audience's reaction)
Italian politician Alessandro di Battista speaks out against Israeli atrocities in Gaza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mi3-S5SjJ8
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 21:38
https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1718335216828207155
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https://x.com/anahita128/status/1718377850078679254
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https://x.com/bobaisbest/status/1718358963391967441
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https://x.com/slionshekh/status/1718359105969209389
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Arcturian108
28th October 2023, 21:51
Arcturian108, I find that Zionist apologist's video to be disgusting, and am deeply saddened to have seen it appear at all on Avalon.
Dennis: Why are you taking this so personally? I am trying to stay somewhat aloof from the maddening rush to accuse, even though I have more of a stake in Israel than hardly anyone else on the Avalon site, besides Israelis of course. You can ask me about this privately some time. I just find all opinions on the subject of the Middle East conflict interesting, and wish to hear more from all sides.
I am curious as to why that particular Arab Muslim has those particular opinions, when he doesn't fit the mold of what we would expect. I guess we will never know, but somehow he feels to me to be elitist in the Arab world, if his pristine outfit indicates to others, as it does to me.
The video in Post #836.
"Taking it personally?", well you posted it in the thread about Trump 'not the answer' where I am involved in a heated debate about Trump's complicity in the Deep State agenda Zionist Israel "situation", and your post had nothing whatsoever to do with the conversation but was rather thread-jacking.
Posting that video is not an "aloof" stance, quite obviously. That video basically accuses Palestinians as being vermin, as well as having no historical rights to the land of their ancestors. Maybe, since you are flying an Aussie flag, if it was a video accusing aboriginal Australians as being vermin and deserving to be killed, expelled, or put in a concentration camp - maybe then you'd see how disgusting it is.
Dennis:
Again, it is rare to see Arab men making any kind of personal statement online like this man did. And I am able to stand back and appreciate whatever I can glean from his statement. Most of what we see of the world protests today tell me nothing about the issues, except watching people waving flags, and screaming.
Regarding my own national status, I happen to be a dual-citizen, U.S.-Australian. Since you mention Australian aboriginals, I have a special fondness for their culture, and collect their art, as I had two past lives as an Australian aboriginal, one as a shaman. All of us have played different parts in our past lives. Many of us have been Jewish. Many of us have been Muslim. Even you, Dennis, have had six past lives as a Jew, and eight past lives as a Muslim. So the intense energy surfacing right now around Israel and Gaza reflects the intensity coming through from having had past lives in these cultures.
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would often say that the reason we meditate is to prevent the birth of an enemy. It is not good to give our energy and attention to these extremely negative events, as our attention helps fuel the holocaust.
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 21:54
https://x.com/CllrJj/status/1718234549128204360
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Bill Ryan
28th October 2023, 22:08
Most of what we see of the world protests today tell me nothing about the issues, except watching people waving flags, and screaming. You're 100% right. :heart: The emotional intensity and passion of the millions of people in the streets just tell us about the anger and outrage. They don't tell us about the detailed historical issues.
For those, we might best listen to
Jeffrey Sachs
Alastair Crooke
John Mearsheimer
Scott Ritter
Douglas Macgregor
Brian Berletic
Alexander Mercouris
Larry Johnson
Ray McGovern
Tucker Carlson
...maybe even Recep Erdoğan, or António Guterres. :)
Bill Ryan
28th October 2023, 22:42
I thought I might add this personal view. This isn't about the long and complex history, or the tortuous moral issues. Only about what happened, or what we're told happened, on 7 October. I'm little surprised I've not heard anyone out there put it quite like this.
If someone murders your good friend and neighbor, you'd be outraged, deeply upset, and would demand justice. You'd want to see the murderer arrested, tried, and if proven guilty, properly punished by whatever means was mandated in a fair court of law.
You'd NOT gather together a vigilante squad and not only attempt to brutally kill whoever you thought the murderer might be, but burn down his house and all his friends' houses, and slaughter his wife, his parents, his grandparents, his children, and his dog, causing the maximum possible suffering to everyone and everything you could find.
That's what a psychopath would do.
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 22:44
Text:
Christians in the Gaza Strip who have taken refuge in two churches are conducting collective baptisms of unbaptized babies in case their children are killed during Israeli bombing.
Parents want to be sure their children are baptized, said Evangelical Lutheran pastor Munter Isaac , a Palestinian Christian living in the West Bank.
https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1718373745327292888
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grapevine
28th October 2023, 22:47
From Lee Fang and Glenn Greenwald: between 40 and 50 congressmen have evangelical beliefs about Isreal based on the Book of Revelation in the Bible. They put their faith and interpretation of Biblical scripture ahead of concerns about peace, security and human rights in hopes that their pushing towards a situation of nuclear war will bring about Jesus's second coming. :facepalm:
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(11 minutes)
Hmmmm, but at the same time paying absolutely no regard to Commandment No,6 THOU SHALL NOT KILL/YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, and even though a little off topic, to see Tim Burchett among them was especially disappointing, given his stance on UAP/Disclosure :(
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 22:49
https://x.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1718353976968483131
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 22:53
https://x.com/antonioguterres/status/1717979030111085037
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https://x.com/antonioguterres/status/1717979644421411301
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Bill Ryan
28th October 2023, 23:00
https://x.com/antonioguterres/status/1717979030111085037
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https://x.com/antonioguterres/status/1717979644421411301
1717979644421411301Bravo to this man. This is the United Nations Secretary-General, not just anyone with an opinion on social media.
And he was very fiercely criticized by Israel for his similar remarks in a UN speech a few days ago. Israel demanded his resignation, and for a short while there was concern that he might actually have to step down, such was the pressure from Israel and the US.
Now he's doubled down on his humanitarian views. That tells me a great deal about his principles and courage.
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 23:05
Text:
We are setting the stage for war, Netanyahu is setting the path for Armageddon.
American thinks that the presence of our offshore navel power will act as a deterrent to the Turks, Iranians, and others in the region that might otherwise become involved in a confrontation with Israel.
It Won't!
https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1718391303061340408
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https://x.com/NFSCSpeak/status/1718387319860871276
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 23:18
https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1718318988101312931
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Key points from Erdogan’s speech during the massive pro-Palestine rally in Istanbul:
- Israel will be declared a war criminal to the world
- Israel is an occupier
- the Western world mobilized its politicians and media to legitimize the massacre of the innocent people in Gaza
- those shedding crocodile tears for civilians killed in the Ukraine-Russia war are silently watching the deaths of thousands of innocent children in Gaza
- the real owners of the game being played in the region are those who support the Israeli government's whims, because Israel cannot take a step without them. The main culprit behind the massacre unfolding in Gaza is the West
https://x.com/narrative_hole/status/1718339155652976658
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 23:25
Text:
In light of the US veto of a ceasefire resolution in the UN Security Council, and noting that the UN General Assembly has overwhelmingly voted in favor of an immediate ceasefire that Israel is ignoring, and further noting that the Israeli Defense Force is actively carrying out military operations in Gaza that can only be described as genocidal, and further noting that the Israeli Defense Force is actively preparing to expand the scope and scale of its regional aggression, it is time for Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran, along with any other like-minded nations, to declare that Israeli actions in Gaza and in general represent an imminent risk to the security of all Palestinian people, and the Middle East as a whole and, in light of this threat, that a collective security arrangement is being entered to by Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran which, under Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, will initiate preemptive self defense operations against Israel with the goal of neutralizing the threat posed by Israel to Gaza, the Palestinian people, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, and the Middle Eastern region as a whole.
Hezbollah and Syria should immediately begin military operations designed to relieve the pressure from Gaza and the West Bank by seeking to expel Israel from the Golan Heights and Shebaa Farms, and occupy northern Israel. Hezbollah and Syria should begin a general bombardment of Israeli leadership and military targets, with an emphasis on destroying Israeli airfields and military concentrations. Iran should refrain from attacking unless Israel escalates by bombing civilian targets in Lebanon and/or Syria, or if the United States enters the conflict on the side of Israel. If either or both of the conditions arises, Iran should use the totality of its longe-range strike capabilities to neutralize US military capabilities in the Middle East and eastern Mediterranean Sea, and to eliminate Israeli military capabilities to project power outside the borders of Israel. Pakistan should announce as formal policy that it will retaliate with nuclear weapons against Israel should Israel use a nuclear weapon. All military operations will continue until which time either Israel is defeated or Israel agrees to unconditionally adhere to the will of the United Nations General Assembly regarding the implementation of a ceasefire.
Of course, this will never happen, which is why Israel will probably end up prevailing over the long run.
This is the time for decisive action to eliminate the threat of Israel to the collective security of the Middle East.
Golda Meir forever regretted not launching a preemptive attack against Egypt and Syria in 1973.
Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran will likewise regret not launching a preemptive strike against Israel now.
https://x.com/RealScottRitter/status/1718307232918487505
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shaberon
28th October 2023, 23:28
So whether Palestine "ever was a state" might be seen as a somewhat abstruse historical debating point, and there are some nuances in there which proponents of every position can draw on to make their case — whatever it might be.
Manmade states and laws can be adjusted any time, and probably should be, frequently.
When Netanyahu is on the mission of Isaiah--maybe he cribs the line without even believing it--the whole thing is interpretive. What you can be sure of is that Isaiah never specifically mentions the 2020s like Ezekiel certainly does not name Russia.
After only one person protested in Mumbai, now we see crowds in Kerala. Is there a difference on a human level? Probably. Kerala was trading with Gaza in 3,000 B. C. E. The Keralites are nowhere near the Indus River, speak their own language, and had no Brahmanism until it was sent to them in the eighth century--which was about two thousand years late. Kerala lacks any identifiers that would make it appear to be a good match for the modern state of India. Most Indians are Zionists.
Europe spent most of its known history trying to rid the Pope of any temporal power.
This Kingdom or state of Israel is based on certain interpretations, which, in their turn, effectively act like a Pope.
Its population was driven out, and then they were kicked out of western Europe. Then, when they faced these supposedly unfair problems in eastern Europe, guess who would not take migrants--western Europe. That is why over a million came to the U. S., when only a few thousand went to Palestine.
Europe would not let in displaced Jews in the same way that modern neighbors do not want to let in displaced Palestinians.
This is an amazing example of what you can do with no country (https://southfront.press/military-situation-in-gaza-strip-and-on-israeli-lebanese-border-on-october-28-2023-map-update/):
On October 27, Israeli ground forces attacked the Gaza Strip form the direction of Beit Hanoun and al-Bureij. Palestinian fighters are repelling the attacks.
And so while a two-state solution has been proposed, the other, and more likely proposal, is one state, Palestine.
In a recent turn, Saudi Arabia (https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/28/713590/Saudi-Arabia-Palestine-Israeli-violence-Gaza-Strip-urge-international-community-secure-truce) condemns the ground operation, and yes, that will make a difference because Arabia is much closer than Iran. If it stops kissing western feet, then, Israel will never be secure, or perhaps it will never be.
In the Islamic world, "Israel" (https://sana.sy/en/?p=319489) is in quotes, because they are quoting someone else rather than saying Zionist entity:
Foreign and Expatriates Minister Fayssal Mikdad said that Israeli occupation crimes in Gaza Strip are identical and even surpass those committed by fascism during World War II.
“Those who supported Israeli occupation with Balfour Declaration or voted to recognize this entity will regret soon, and they will realize that they committed a crime against their countries and all of humanity,” Mikdad wrote on X Saturday.
Mikdad noted that instead of protecting the interests of Western colonial countries in the region, “Israel” has become a moral, military, political, financial, economic and humanitarian burden for these countries.
Mikdad noted that the administrative apparatus of the United Nations that has long polished Israel’s image is now required to defend the credibility of the UN Secretary-General in response to the insult directed to him by a Zionist beggar in his capacity as ambassador representing a fascist government.
Moreover, sometimes the Lebanese will refer to the border with Palestine, with no quotes, as if accepting the pre-1947 status quo.
At this point, the two-state idea will have the added difficulty of justifying "Israel" as being one of them.
Ukraine and Israel are both 1900s fabrications which may simply disappear.
I have no idea how you operate an under-tech'd ground force coming from one city which is easily pulverized. Neighboring states have made plenty of rhetoric, which obviously does not work, so they are running out of options other than force.
Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 23:29
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Netanyahu declaring invasion: "You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible"
1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass"
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1718369014441796057
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Ravenlocke
28th October 2023, 23:35
“ This is Motaz Azaiza’s latest message. Don’t let it be his last. Go protest in the streets and demand genocidal Israel stop the slaughter of Gaza. ”
https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1718292183764058129
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https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1718292673449144491
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Dennis Leahy
29th October 2023, 00:44
For the third time, I refer you back to your initial post of 2 back-to-back posts - the video in post # 836 in this thread. That's not an Arab, and he purports to give a history lesson, concluding with the land belongs to Israel and that the Palestinians, or as he might say, "people who call themselves Palestinians, but aren't really because Palestine doesn't exist", are vermin. He's an Israeli spewing Israeli propaganda mixed with the Israeli version of history.
Israel didn't exist before 1947 - Israelis are the interlopers, the occupiers, in the land called Palestine (regardless if the USA refuses to declare Palestine a "state" or not.)
The other video that you keep referring to was your second post in a row, that one from some Saudi Arabian elite guy, probably one of the many princes in the dreadful monarchy. You want to hear an Arab demean other Arabs, just find a Saudi Arabian, or find a Sunni Muslem Arab to badmouth a Shia Muslim Arab, or vice versa. There is nothing unique or special about that second video either. It's an elitist Saudi Arabian guy badmouthing Palestinians.
Telling me that you collect Australian aboriginal art is like me telling you my favorite color. My point was obviously missed.
Arcturian108, I find that Zionist apologist's video to be disgusting, and am deeply saddened to have seen it appear at all on Avalon.
Dennis: Why are you taking this so personally? I am trying to stay somewhat aloof from the maddening rush to accuse, even though I have more of a stake in Israel than hardly anyone else on the Avalon site, besides Israelis of course. You can ask me about this privately some time. I just find all opinions on the subject of the Middle East conflict interesting, and wish to hear more from all sides.
I am curious as to why that particular Arab Muslim has those particular opinions, when he doesn't fit the mold of what we would expect. I guess we will never know, but somehow he feels to me to be elitist in the Arab world, if his pristine outfit indicates to others, as it does to me.
The video in Post #836.
"Taking it personally?", well you posted it in the thread about Trump 'not the answer' where I am involved in a heated debate about Trump's complicity in the Deep State agenda Zionist Israel "situation", and your post had nothing whatsoever to do with the conversation but was rather thread-jacking.
Posting that video is not an "aloof" stance, quite obviously. That video basically accuses Palestinians as being vermin, as well as having no historical rights to the land of their ancestors. Maybe, since you are flying an Aussie flag, if it was a video accusing aboriginal Australians as being vermin and deserving to be killed, expelled, or put in a concentration camp - maybe then you'd see how disgusting it is.
Dennis:
Again, it is rare to see Arab men making any kind of personal statement online like this man did. And I am able to stand back and appreciate whatever I can glean from his statement. Most of what we see of the world protests today tell me nothing about the issues, except watching people waving flags, and screaming.
Regarding my own national status, I happen to be a dual-citizen, U.S.-Australian. Since you mention Australian aboriginals, I have a special fondness for their culture, and collect their art, as I had two past lives as an Australian aboriginal, one as a shaman. All of us have played different parts in our past lives. Many of us have been Jewish. Many of us have been Muslim. Even you, Dennis, have had six past lives as a Jew, and eight past lives as a Muslim. So the intense energy surfacing right now around Israel and Gaza reflects the intensity coming through from having had past lives in these cultures.
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would often say that the reason we meditate is to prevent the birth of an enemy. It is not good to give our energy and attention to these extremely negative events, as our attention helps fuel the holocaust.
shaberon
29th October 2023, 01:09
Text:
Netanyahu declaring invasion: "You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible"
Let me help that foot a little farther into the mouth.
Amalek (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalek#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Midrash%2C%20the,archetypal%20enemy%20of%20the%20Jews.) is a bit like the Jewish expression for anti-Christ. Note the traditional origin:
According to the Bible, Amalek was the son of Eliphaz (himself the son of Esau, ancestor of the Edomites) and Eliphaz's concubine Timna.
It was supposed to be the first and recurring enemy of the Israelites, which lacks any evidence:
Although Egyptian and Assyrian monumental inscriptions and records of the period survive which list various tribes and peoples of the area, no reference has ever been found to Amalek or the Amalekites. Therefore, the archaeologist and historian Hugo Winckler suggested in 1895 that there were never any such people and the Biblical stories concerning them are entirely mythological and ahistorical.
If it is a cover for the lineage of Esau, would that be meaningful, yes (https://www.quora.com/How-did-Herod-an-Edomite-become-the-king-of-Judea):
HEROD
The name of a family of political rulers over the Jews. They were Idumeans, Edomites. They were nominally Jews, for the Idumeans had had circumcision forced upon them by the Maccabean ruler John Hyrcanus I in about 125 B.C.E., according to Josephus.
The Hebrew word translated as leader of a clan is aluf, used solely to describe the Dukes of Edom and Moab, in the first five books of Moses. However beginning in the books of the later prophets the word is used to describe Judean generals, for example, in the prophecies of Zachariah twice (9:7, 12:5–6) it had evolved to describe Jewish captains, the word also is used multiple times as a general term for teacher or guide for example in Psalm 55:13. Aluph as it is used to denote teach or guide from the Edomite word for Duke is used 69 times in the Tanakh.
Edom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom) (Idumaea) is ancient and historical, and was defeated several times until:
Around 110 BCE, Hasmonean leader John Hyrcanus I conquered Idumaea. According to several ancient sources, including Josephus and Ptolemy, he forcibly converted them to Judaism
According to the Torah, the congregation could not receive descendants of a marriage between an Israelite and an Edomite until the fourth generation.
John Hyrcanus's driving out the non-military population of Jerusalem during the siege also probably caused resentment against him. The action of looting the Tomb of David violated his obligations as High Priest, which would have offended the religious leadership.
Hyrcanus sought for good relations with the surrounding Gentile powers, especially the growing Roman Republic.
John Hyrcanus in the later years of his life, abandoned the sect of the Pharisees, and joined himself to the Sadducees.
Next:
Herod's despotic rule has been demonstrated by many of his security measures aimed at suppressing the contempt his people, especially Jews, had towards him. For instance, it has been suggested that Herod used secret police to monitor and report the feelings of the general populace toward him. He sought to prohibit protests, and had opponents removed by force.
In Jerusalem, Herod introduced foreign forms of entertainment, and erected a golden eagle at the entrance of the Temple, which suggested a greater interest in the welfare of Rome than of Jews.
The Sadducees, who were closely associated with priestly responsibilities in the Temple, opposed Herod because he replaced their high priests with outsiders from Babylonia and Alexandria, in an effort to gain support from the Jewish Diaspora.
The scope of the disturbances sparked hopes that the Jews of Judea might some day overthrow the Roman overlords, hopes reawakened decades later in the outbreak of the First Jewish-Roman War in 66 CE.
While it has been proven that Herod showed a great amount of disrespect toward the Jewish religion...Many Jews questioned the authenticity of Herod's Judaism on account of his Idumean background and his infamous murders of members of his family.
...this influential family came to be resented by many Jews for their Edomite ancestry, a fact used by the Hasmoneans and their supporters against them. As such, in a polemic against Herod to discredit him in the eyes of the Romans as unfit to become king of the Jews, Antigonus the Hasmonean is quoted by Josephus as referring to Herod as "no more than a private man, and an Idumean, i.e. a half Jew".
Considering the time period, "that" is Judea shortly before the time of Jesus. Rather obviously, there would have been a desire for a Messiah in the near future, not thousands of years away. Another likely spurious massacre is attributed to him by Matthew, to rally support for Christianity.
Herod was an Edomite Jewish convert whose dynasty ruled Judea for centuries.
But this line of Esau has been a Judaic enemy for ages.
This is why Judean lineages are said to be ritually unclean, if not unreal, due to the resurgence of Edom over half of their territory, and ruling it as a type of falsified High Priest with a few other issues.
Amalek who? Not sure. Remember Esau.
None of that, to me, is a sufficient reason to use an air force to demolish a civilian city.
Dennis Leahy
29th October 2023, 01:16
Lets not forget Neil Oliver's take earlier this evening on GBNews. Excellent summary, imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loS-2xSqPus
Brilliant, powerful, truth, masterfully articulated. I offer Neil Oliver a standing ovation!
ExomatrixTV
29th October 2023, 02:47
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This National Geographic from December 1947 is a collector’s item with a long article and many unique photographs of pre-state Israel. The article from an archaeologist makes for fascinating reading. Included also is an article with accompanying photographs of Jordan, including Petra.
This issue is the original National Geographic from the date listed above. As a historical item, it is in good shape given its age, with the cover intact and all pages included.
source (https://anydate.com/national-geographic-december-1947-an-archeologist-looks-at-palestine.html)
https://ia902603.us.archive.org/21/items/194701to12/1947-12.pdf
PDF (https://archive.org/details/194701to12/1947-12/mode/2up?view=theater)
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
Britain in Palestine 1917-1948:
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Britain in Palestine 1917-1948 investigates the contradictory promises and actions which defined British Mandatory rule in Palestine and laid the groundwork for the Nakba (the catastrophe) and the creation of the state of Israel in 1948. The roots of the contemporary social, political, economic, and environmental landscape of Palestine and Israel can be traced back to this period, making it essential viewing for understanding Britain’s legacy in the region and the situation on the ground today.
To access English, Arabic and Hebrew subtitles click on the CC link on the video. For further analysis of the events outlined in the film see the Companion Guide to Britain in Palestine 1917-1948.
Reviews
“A very useful explanation of how we got to where we are today. Fascinating photos I had not seen before. A great resource to show in any classroom or forum to people who want to learn more about this region, and specifically, Britain’s involvement. Afif Safieh, Former Palestinian Ambassador
“…This film brilliantly puts into perspective the role the United Kingdom played in Mandate Palestine from 1917-1948.” Rabbi Howard Finkelstein, Ontario, Canada
“This is an excellent short 18-min video from @BalfourProject explaining briefly but super-clearly how British colonialism has caused a century of war in Palestine.” Matthew Teller, Journalist and author of Nine Quarters of Jerusalem: A New Biography of the Old City (2022)
“Britain in Palestine 1917 – 1948 is a clear, precise and factual explanation of the historical origins of the Arab-Israeli conflict. For anyone who wants to develop a real understanding of the issue but is intimidated by it’s complexity, this film is the place to start.” Judah Passow, Photojournalist
gini
29th October 2023, 04:39
SHOCKER: Entire Senate Condemns American’s FREE SPEECH & Right To Protest!-Oct 28, 2023 --5 min-- #TheJimmyDoreShow
In response to the ongoing devastating assault on Gaza by the Israeli military, the United States Senate snapped into action by unanimously adopting a resolution condemning… students who expressed support for Palestinians.
Guest host Craig Jardula and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the courage on display in the Senate to take on a group of powerless students.-- 14_7llZLPM8
grapevine
29th October 2023, 09:49
Israel-Hamas: 'Insistence on INTERVENTION has created CHAOS' |
Neil Oliver, Douglas Macgregor and Ralph Schollhammer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7D5eO5Qg-U (18.16 minutes)
"There is no fear of the consequences, as a result I'm not optimistic [for a solution to Israel-Hamas], I think we will march down a path into hell.'
This interview follows on from Neil Oliver's stirling monologue posted above, and is a first-class discussion on the situation in Gaza. However, when all is said and done, tongues don't get things done.
It seems that the world is dependent upon a divided (and therefore weak) United Nations, who is powerless to stop the senseless murder of innocent people by the zionists. Expecting the military to down arms in solidarity is totally unrealistic, so escalation seems inevitable.
Colonel McGregor is right: We have (collectively) been watching TV instead of seeing the systematic downgrade of our values, but we're quickly becoming aware now. One major problem in the UK is the lack of a major political party which hasn't been infiltrated by zionists.
Eric J (Viking)
29th October 2023, 09:54
Max Igan
Israels War on Gaza. Gaza has no military, no artillery, no tanks, no RV's, no air force, no navy, no body armor, no helmets, no heavy weapons, no fuel, no electricity, no coms, no help. 2.3 million walled in and besieged civilians. 50% of population 14 years old or younger. Over 7,800 now dead over 3500 children now dead. The greatest act of genocide and cowardice in all of modern history... Israels "War" on children... Like shooting fish in a barrel.
Eric J
https://twitter.com/maxigan/status/1718406980778312011
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shaberon
29th October 2023, 10:20
Entire Senate Condemns American’s FREE SPEECH & Right To Protest!-Oct 28, 2023
Congress (https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14020806000527/US-Cngress-Sees-Apprval-Raing-Slide-3-Percen) Sees Approval Rating Slide to 13 Percent
unanimously adopting a resolution
Fortunately, resolutions are non-binding statements of opinion.
SR 418 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-resolution/418/text) contains no language such as "Palestine has the right to defend itself", but, it does hate free speech:
Sponsor: Sen. Hawley, Josh [R-MO]
Cosponsor Date Cosponsored
Sen. Scott, Rick [R-FL]* 10/19/2023
Sen. Blackburn, Marsha [R-TN]* 10/19/2023
Sen. Budd, Ted [R-NC]* 10/19/2023
Whereas students at Harvard University wrote that they “hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence”;
Whereas the President of the Student Bar Association of New York University School of Law wrote “to express, first and foremost, my unwavering and absolute solidarity with Palestinians in their resistance against oppression toward liberation and self-determination. Israel bears full responsibility for this tremendous loss of life”;
Whereas students at the Ohio State University praised “our heroic resistance in Gaza who have shown the world yet again that the spirit of the Palestinian people cannot and will not be trampled, and that our resistance to Zionism and Western imperialism remains strong”;
Whereas the University of North Carolina chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine claimed “it is our moral obligation to be in solidarity with the dispossessed, no matter the pathway to liberation they choose to take. This includes violence”;
Whereas the New York University chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine rejected “peaceful discourse” and instead claimed “there is no peace in a colonized people living under occupation, subjugation, and apartheid”;
Whereas the University of Virginia chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine declared that the mass murder of civilians was “an unprecedented feat for the 21st century” and “a step towards a free Palestine”;
SR 437 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-resolution/437/text) is about "antisemitism", a chimera that would mean someone opposes a language:
Sponsor: Sen. Blackburn, Marsha [R-TN]
Cosponsor Date Cosponsored
Sen. Rosen, Jacky [D-NV]* 10/26/2023
Sen. Lankford, James [R-OK]* 10/26/2023
Sen. Van Hollen, Chris [D-MD]* 10/26/2023
Whereas freedom of speech and expression are foundational principles of institutions of higher education in the United States, but when these principles are used to promote violence, hatred, or discrimination on the basis of religious beliefs, national origin, or ancestry, higher education leaders have the right and an obligation to respond
"Antisemitism" and most of the other political jargon accomplishes those purposes doesn't it?
Also a long complaint about removing 1,100 troops in Niger (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/volume-169/issue-177/senate-section/article/S5201-1). Nay 86 -- 11.
Just a reminder they are warmongering Zionists.
I'd like to see them, say, try to compel the governor of NY to enforce some Federal "you cannot protest" law. The governor can do that on his own. That would be worse if individual states pass legislation on it.
shaberon
29th October 2023, 10:35
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Iran should refrain from attacking unless Israel escalates by bombing civilian targets in Lebanon and/or Syria, or if the United States enters the conflict on the side of Israel.
Not sure they have that kind of patience (https://tass.com/world/1698537):
Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi said that Israel had crossed ‘red lines’ that could force everyone to take action.
"Zionist regime’s crimes have crossed the red lines, which may force everyone to take action."
Not sure what it means, other than he warned them about invading. The strategy and the things to be done are already agreed by the regional leaders, and we just don't know how it works. I am wondering if he can legally shoot Israelis in Gaza in the sense of it not being an act of war.
shaberon
29th October 2023, 10:56
One more thing. Quick refresher about the Senator sponsoring both of those Zionist resolutions. This is the John Birch clone in high school:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Marsha_Wedgeworth_-_1969.jpg/211px-Marsha_Wedgeworth_-_1969.jpg
In the recent election, Blackburn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsha_Blackburn) lost only three counties in Tennessee:
In December 2020, Blackburn posted, "China has a 5,000-year history of cheating and stealing. Some things will never change..." on her Twitter account. The European Union bureau chief for China's state-owned China Daily, Chen Weihua, responded by tweeting, "This is the most racist and ignorant US Senator I have seen. A lifetime bitch".
The Chinese American rights group Tennessee Chinese American Alliance protested Blackburn's comments as insulting to people of Chinese descent.
In August 2022, Blackburn led a congressional delegation to Taiwan, where she met with Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen.
During her visit, Blackburn voiced support for Taiwan, calling it an "independent nation" and a "country", and also supported further U.S.-Taiwan relations and combating the "New Axis of Evil", which she defines as Iran, Russia, and North Korea, led by China.
Blackburn is a Tea Party Republican. She has been called staunchly conservative, and has sometimes attended functions of, and met with leaders of, far-right groups. She has called herself "a hard-core, card-carrying Tennessee conservative."
GovTrack estimated Blackburn to be the most ideologically conservative member of the Senate in the 2019 legislative year.
In 2021, when President Biden proposed universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds and subsidized child care for low- and middle-income families, Blackburn likened the proposal to the communist policies of the Soviet Union. She also falsely claimed that the Biden administration proposed to put children in pre-K even if their parents did not want to send them there.
She is a Presbyterian and a member of Christ Presbyterian Church.
That definitely summarizes one flavor of the carbon copied human forms around me.
Tintin
29th October 2023, 10:58
As we all do know - or certainly should by now - the "brotherhood" reach (be it the Zionist/Israel Lobby or others) plays on people's venality, BUT some are deficient in that, have some backbone, and are able to say, 'NO!':
Ramsha Afridi @ramshaofficial
I've never shared this publicly before, but I believe the time has come. At the age of 24, when I initially entered the realm of politics, an individual from a specific interest group approached me.
They offered a "significant role" in the media if I embraced a pro-Israel, Muslim perspective. They promised me influence and a large platform.
When I declined, their approach turned aggressive, and they even resorted to making threats.
I can't help but wonder how many others are currently experiencing similar pressures.
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Tintin
29th October 2023, 11:09
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This National Geographic from December 1947 is a collector’s item with a long article and many unique photographs of pre-state Israel. The article from an archaeologist makes for fascinating reading. Included also is an article with accompanying photographs of Jordan, including Petra.
This issue is the original National Geographic from the date listed above. As a historical item, it is in good shape given its age, with the cover intact and all pages included.
Thanks John :thumbsup:
It's very possible you didn't know this, or hadn't remembered, and this is really just a quick note for anyone generally interested, that we have an enormous collection of the National Geographic in the library - some 1,367 of them spanning the period 1888 - (beginning) 2019. It's almost a full collection covering that period.
The specific issue relating to the posted content here is this one:
https://avalonlibrary.net/National_Geographic/National%20Geographic%201947-12%20092-6%20Dec.pdf
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ExomatrixTV
29th October 2023, 15:42
Israeli Journalist: ‘It’s strange and it stinks ...’:
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backup video (https://rumble.com/v3qx921-efrat.html)
Journalist Efrat Fenigson (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Efrat%20Fenigson) served in the Israeli army herself and has some inconvenient questions. How could Hamas breach the Israeli border so easily? And why were they left unimpeded for hours? "A cat walking along the fence activates all the troops. So this?"
Although Fenigson (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Efrat%20Fenigson) is not a security expert, she has common sense as well as practical experience. She served in the Israeli army in intelligence and was stationed at a border crossing with the Gaza Strip. Like the rest of the world, she was shocked by the atrocities Hamas committed last October 7, 2023 but she was (https://twitter.com/efenigson/status/1710716137044922585) also critical (https://twitter.com/efenigson/status/1711140130948362425).
For how could it be that one of the most advanced armies in the world did not see this large-scale attack coming? And why did it react so late? “It's strange and it stinks,” she says. “I don't have any answers, but I can point out the obvious questions.”
These are daring questions on this highly sensitive topic. “But it takes people speaking out, asking these questions on behalf of those who are now suffering the loss of loved ones,” Fenigson (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Efrat%20Fenigson) stressed to reporter Roy Bernabela, who as an Arabist has a thorough knowledge of the Middle East.
Efrat Fenigson (https://linktr.ee/efenigson) publishes at Substack (https://efrat.substack.com/) and is active on X (https://twitter.com/efenigson) and Telegram (https://t.me/efenigson).
Tintin
29th October 2023, 16:10
Some historical documents of interest concerning the formation of the State of Israel and the US government's (Harry S. Truman) recognition of such:
Report of the Anglo-American Committee of enquiry regarding the problems of European Jewry and Palestine, Lausanne, 20th April, 1946
Source: https://www.bibliotheque-numerique-aiu.org/viewer/16089/?offset=#page=2&viewer=picture&o=download&n=0&q=
Avalon Library copy: https://avalonlibrary.net/Report_of_the_Anglo-American_Committee_of_Enquiry_regarding_the_Problems_of_European_Jewry_and_Palestine_%28Lausanne%2C% 20Switzerland%2C%20April%2020%201946%29/Report%20of%20the%20Anglo-American%20Committee%20of%20Enquiry%20regarding%20the%20Problems%20of%20European%20Jewry%20and%20Pal estine%20-%20Lausanne%2C%20Switzerland%2C%20April%201946.pdf
Background:
Publication note:
The Committee reported in Lausanne, Switzerland on 20 April 1946: Report of the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry Regarding the Problems of European Jewry and Palestine (Miscellaneous No. 8 (1946) Cmd. 6808). The following year its long term recommendations were published Proposals for the Future of Palestine July, 1946-February, 1947 (Palestine No. 1 (1947) Cmd. 7044).
Administrative / biographical background:
The Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry on Palestine was appointed by the government of the United States and United Kingdom as a joint body with two chairmen, Joseph C. Hutcheson (USA) and John E. Singleton (UK). The Committee was set up in January 1946 to report within 120 days on the political, economic and social conditions in Palestine relevant to the problem of Jewish immigration and settlement therein and the well being of the present population.
It was also to examine the position of Jews in Europe and the practical measures necessary to enable them to live free from discrimination and to estimate those who may wish or be impelled to migrate. The enquiry took the form of public hearings of evidence in Washington DC, London, Cairo and Jerusalem and visits by members to the various countries concerned.
Source: National Archives (US)
Link: https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/press-release-announcing-us-recognition-of-israel#:~:text=UN%20General%20Assembly.-,At%20midnight%20on%20May%2014%2C%201948%2C%20the%20Provisional%20Government%20of,on%20January%2031% 2C%201949
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/1948-05-14_Harry_Truman_US_recognizes_provisional_government_of_the_de-facto_authority_of_the_State_of_Israel.jpg
Citation: President Truman's statement recognizing the State of Israel, May 14, 1948. Charles Ross Papers, 1904-1967, Alphabetical Correspondence File: "Handwriting of the President," Harry S. Truman Library, National Archives and Records Administration.
Description/background:
Press Release Announcing U.S. Recognition of Israel (1948)
At midnight on May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed a new State of Israel. On that same date, the United States recognized the provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the Jewish state (de jure recognition was extended on January 31, 1949).
In 1917, Chaim Weizmann – scientist, statesperson, and supporter of the effort to establish a state of Israel – persuaded the British government to issue a statement favoring the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. The statement, which became known as the Balfour Declaration, was, in part, payment to the Jewish people for their support of the British against the Turks during World War I. After the war, the League of Nations ratified the declaration and in 1922 appointed Britain to rule Palestine.
This course of events caused Jewish people to be optimistic about the eventual establishment of a homeland. Their optimism inspired immigration to Palestine from many countries, particularly from Germany when Nazi persecution began. The arrival of many Jewish immigrants in the 1930s awakened Arab fears that Palestine would become a national Jewish homeland. By 1936, guerrilla fighting had broken out between Jews and Arabs. Unable to maintain peace, Britain issued a white paper in 1939 that restricted Jewish immigration into Palestine. Jewish people, feeling betrayed, bitterly opposed the policy and looked to the United States for support.
While President Franklin D. Roosevelt appeared to be sympathetic to the Jewish cause, his assurances to the Arabs that the United States would not intervene without consulting both parties caused public uncertainty about his position. When Harry S. Truman took office, he made clear that his sympathies were with the Jewish people and accepted the Balfour Declaration, explaining that it was in keeping with former President Woodrow Wilson's principle of "self-determination." Truman initiated several studies of the Palestine situation that supported his belief that, as a result of the Holocaust, Jewish people were oppressed and also in need of a homeland. Throughout the Roosevelt and Truman administrations, the Departments of War and State, recognizing the possibility of a Soviet-Arab connection and the potential restriction on oil supplies from Arab nations to the United States, advised against U.S. intervention.
Britain and the United States, in a joint effort to examine the dilemma, established the "Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry." In April 1946, the committee submitted recommendations that Palestine not be dominated by either Arabs or Jews. It concluded that attempts to establish nationhood or independence would result in civil strife; that a trusteeship agreement aimed at bringing the two peoples together should be established by the United Nations; that full Jewish immigration be allowed into Palestine; and that two autonomous states be established with a strong central government to control Jerusalem, Bethlehem, and the Negev, the southernmost section of Palestine.
British, Arab, and Jewish reactions to the recommendations were not favorable. Britain, anxious to rid itself of the problem, set the United Nations in motion, formally requesting on April 2, 1947, that the UN General Assembly set up the Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP). This committee recommended that the British mandate over Palestine be ended and that the territory be partitioned into two states.
Jewish reaction was mixed—some wanted control of all of Palestine; others realized that partition spelled hope for their dream of a homeland. Palestinian Arab leaders and other Arab nations were not at all agreeable to the UNSCOP plan. In October, the League of Arab States directed the governments of its member states to move troops to the Palestine border. Meanwhile, President Truman instructed the State Department to support the UN plan, and it reluctantly did so. On November 29, 1947, the partition plan was passed by the UN General Assembly.
At midnight on May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed a new State of Israel. On that same date, the United States, in the person of President Truman, recognized the provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the Jewish state (de jure recognition was extended on January 31, 1949). The U.S. delegates to the UN and top-ranking State Department officials were angered that Truman released his recognition statement to the press without notifying them first.
On May 15, 1948, the first day of Israeli Independence and exactly one year after UNSCOP was established, Arab armies invaded Israel and the Arab-Israeli War of 1948 began.
Pam
29th October 2023, 17:53
Text:
Netanyahu declaring invasion: "You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible"
1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass"
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1718369014441796057
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What kind of "God" would make that kind of a request? Think about it. All the while Netenyahoo (intentional spelling change) has his pretty boy son vacationing in Miami.
I saw the picture of the babies on X that have been injured or killed from a senseless war from senseless people, following a senseless "god". It will be burned in my brain forever. I want it there. I want to remember what war is, what it does and who really suffers.
Pam
29th October 2023, 17:59
Lets not forget Neil Oliver's take earlier this evening on GBNews. Excellent summary, imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loS-2xSqPus
Brilliant, powerful, truth, masterfully articulated. I offer Neil Oliver a standing ovation!
I will standing right next to you!!!! I don't know why I never saw as deeply as I see now the atrocity of this madness. I saw it but not the way I see it now. Ravenlocke and Dennis you have done so much to open my eyes. Thank you.
Johan (Keyholder)
29th October 2023, 19:02
Pam, I don't think it was "God" as such, rather Jahweh/Jehovah, the main "god" representing Yaldabaoth.
What's happening is that from "Luciferian evil", via "Ahrimanic evil" we have arrived at "Sorathic evil" (the worst).
PA member Bruce G. Charlton explains it well on several of his blogs as well as in a number of posts he made on this forum.
Personally I think that the main problem (with humanity) is not seeing the difference between "God" and "god".
ExomatrixTV
29th October 2023, 19:42
Israeli Politician Moshe Feiglin: "Gaza Needs to Turn Into Dresden! Annihilate Gaza Now!" (https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64085) :thumbsdown::facepalm:
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The bombing of Dresden was a joint British and American aerial bombing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_bombardment) attack on the city of Dresden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden), the capital of the German state of Saxony (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxony), during World War II (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II). In four raids between 13 and 15 February 1945, 772 heavy bombers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_bomber) of the Royal Air Force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force) (RAF) and 527 of the United States Army Air Forces (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Forces) (USAAF) dropped more than 3,900 tons of high-explosive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-explosive) bombs and incendiary devices (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incendiary_device) on the city.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-:0-2) The bombing and the resulting firestorm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm) destroyed more than 1,600 acres (6.5 km2) of the city centre.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTEHarris1945-3) Up to 25,000 people were killed.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-historical_commission-1)[a] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-5) Three more USAAF air raids followed, two occurring on 2 March aimed at the city's railway marshalling yard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_yard) and one smaller raid on 17 April aimed at industrial areas.
Post-war discussions about whether the attacks were justified, and the tens of thousands of civilians killed, led to the event becoming one of the moral causes célèbres (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_c%C3%A9l%C3%A8bre) of the war.[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-6) The present understanding of Nazi Germany's desperate struggle to maintain resistance in the closing months of the war is widely known; however, Allied intelligence assessments at the time gave a different picture. There was uncertainty over the ability of the Russian advance to keep up its momentum. Rumours of the establishment of a Nazi redoubt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_redoubt) in Southern Germany (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_Fortress) were taken too seriously.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTEOvery2013391-7)
Two United States Air Force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force) reports, published in 1953 and again in 1954, defended the operation as the justified bombing of a strategic target, which they noted was a major rail transport and communication centre, housing 110 factories and 50,000 workers in support of the German war effort.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-USAFHD-8)[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-ch54-9) Several researchers assert that not all of the communications infrastructure, such as the bridges, were targeted, nor were the extensive industrial areas which were located outside the city centre.[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMcKee198362-10) Critics of the bombing have asserted that Dresden was a cultural landmark with little strategic significance, and that the attacks were indiscriminate area bombing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_bombing) and were not proportionate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportionality_(law)#International_law) to the military gains (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_necessity).[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-11)[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTEAddisonCrang2006Chapter_9_p._194-12)[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMcKee198361–94-13) Some have claimed that the raid constituted a war crime (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crime).[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-Furlong2004-14) Nazi propaganda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_Nazi_Germany) claims following the attacks played up the death toll of the bombing and its status as mass murder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_murder), and many in the German far-right (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_Germany_(1945%E2%80%93present)) have referred to it as "Dresden's Holocaust of bombs".[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-Volkery-15)[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-16)
In the decades since the war, large variations in the claimed death toll have fuelled controversy, though the numbers themselves are no longer a major point of contention among historians.[16] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTEOvery2013334,_482-17) City authorities at the time estimated up to 25,000 victims, a figure that subsequent investigations supported, including a 2010 study commissioned by the city council.[17] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTENeutzner201068-18) In March 1945, the German government ordered its press to publish a falsified casualty figure of 200,000 for the Dresden raids, and death tolls as high as 500,000 have been claimed.[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTEBergander1998217-19)[19] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTETaylor2004370-20)[20] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-FOOTNOTEAtkinson2013535-21) These falsely inflated figures continued to be disseminated in the West for decades, notably by David Irving (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving), a Holocaust denier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denier), who in 1966 announced that the documentation he had worked from had been forged, and the real figures supported the 25,000 number.[21] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#cite_note-22)
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Pam
29th October 2023, 20:10
Pam, I don't think it was "God" as such, rather Jahweh/Jehovah, the main "god" representing Yaldabaoth.
What's happening is that from "Luciferian evil", via "Ahrimanic evil" we have arrived at "Sorathic evil" (the worst).
PA member Bruce G. Charlton explains it well on several of his blogs as well as in a number of posts he made on this forum.
Personally I think that the main problem (with humanity) is not seeing the difference between "God" and "god".
I totally agree with you. Johan. I should have made that clear.
shaberon
29th October 2023, 23:23
What kind of "God" would make that kind of a request?
I saw the picture of the babies on X that have been injured or killed from a senseless war from senseless people, following a senseless "god".
It's a Caananite volcano, Yahweh.
One of perhaps over seventy minor local deities.
Frequently called in Greek, "Kurios", so, whenever someone says "the Lord", it means this. In other words, not particularly Jewish, same as the one in the Bible. Together they have waged wars and genocides permanently. Nothing else is known to have come from it.
It speaks through Prague (https://sputnikglobe.com/20231029/defense-minister-urges-czech-republic-to-quit-un-over-shameful-vote-on-gaza-crisis-1114576069.html):
Only 14 countries, including ours, stood up against the unprecedented terrorist attack committed by Hamas terrorists, clearly and comprehensibly! I am ashamed of the UN. In my opinion, the Czech Republic has nothing to expect from an organization that supports terrorists and does not respect the basic right to self-defense. Let's get out,” Czech Defense Minister Jana Cernochova said.
Czech Defense Chief Issues Russian-Language ‘Go F*** Yourself’ Tweet Over Report on Prague Protests
Tel Aviv (https://tass.com/politics/1698675):
Russian Ambassador to Israel Anatoly Viktotov was summoned to the Israeli foreign ministry on Sunday following the visit by a Hamas delegation to Moscow.
"Deputy Director General of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs Simona Halperin explained to the ambassador that Israel is taking seriously the lack of Moscow’s clear and unequivocal condemnation of the terrorist organization Hamas, as well as Russia’s actions in international organizations," the Israeli foreign ministry said.
And, as if in answer to my question about whether Iran can legally shoot Israelis in Gaza, Washington (https://sputnikglobe.com/20231029/militants-ignore-bidens-warning-rain-down-fire-on-us-forces-in-iraq-syria-1114572582.html):
US President Joe Biden in a letter to Congress said the recent airstrikes against targets in Syria were necessary and consistent with international law.
"The United States took this necessary and proportionate action consistent with international law and in the exercise of the United States' inherent right of self-defense as reflected in Article 51 of the United Nations Charter," Biden said in the letter on Friday. "The United States stands ready to take further action, as necessary and appropriate, to address further threats or attacks."
I believe it is a cult of lies and wordsmithing.
The "type of god" is a "theos", which is "to move, run, wander"--means a planet.
The "faith" in it is "Pistis", which is a Daimon, which we are told is "a demon".
Would I personally say that Moses was a better oracle than, for example, the one at Delphi? Of course not. In other words, I am not convinced that coming off a mountain with some stone tablets either represents a divine communication, or, happened at all.
The normal belief beforehand was that the Planets governed every single moments of one's life, so, you knew who they were, and there were various hymns and so forth to mitigate the consequences, but it also involved a heavy look at one's actions. You'd re-consider transgressions, maybe even learn something.
One clue is the days of the week. These are the same in Germanic, Greek, and Indian cultures, because it is all the same. My guess is that most people have no idea why they are in the order that they are, or that "A" is an inverted Taurus.
Looking back through that Amalek thing, you find that Judeans are already infused with what they claim to be their enemy, the line of Esau. Not necessarily the Jews of Babylon or Alexandria, but the ones that mostly wrote the Bible.
Has anyone ever claimed that El is causing Zionist problems?
No, and even in the canonical Gospels, Jesus only mentions one name, El. All you have to do is adjust to the fact that maybe Phoenicians and Assyrians had different language and customs about it, but the inner teaching was along the same lines. Has nothing to do with Yahwism. It does with Greek and Indian mythology.
Plenty of wars and cruelty happen for all sorts of reasons. European heritage is particularly fond of promoting this scriptural reason. That would be my explanation of "senseless". If you wanted me to participate in hostilities, and told me something like "well, we're going to steal this gold mine and some farm land", it would at least *make sense*, and I could process my reality as best as I could. These things are happening "because it is written".
Stuff like Netanyahu says either furthers the hypnosis, or is an open confession, depending on the audience.
SilentFeathers
30th October 2023, 02:20
This is a very revealing video (worth watching).
If true, which it very well seems to be, dirty politicians have betrayed the American people and basically "surrendered" the US to our enemies (Iran, China, Etc).
Barak Obama, Joe Biden, Robert Malley, Antony Blinken, and George Soro's seem to be the main far left foreign policy makers who are basically destroying this US nation. I would personally argue that many Republicans are fully aware of what's happening and likely directly involved. SIDENOTE: Malley and Blinken are lifelong friends and Malley is a proven Iranian asset.
If Mark Levin is truly on to something with this video, this could really be leading to the smoking gun conspiracy evidence as to how and why October 7th happened.
IMO, we may actually be witnessing the beginning of the end of the US being the worlds superpower (or worse), and possibly the beginning of the complete destruction of Israel.
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shaberon
30th October 2023, 07:07
Some updates (https://sana.sy/en/?p=319553) are not that big, but, continue to shatter the image of "invincibility":
Palestinian resistance launched an operation to disable armored vehicles of the enemy on outskirts of Jenin camp with explosive devices.
-Palestinian Resistance: We confirm the failure of the occupation operation carried out at dawn on Monday to storm Jenin camp. Injuries and deaths were also observed among the ranks of the Israeli enemy after a massive confrontation operation carried out by our fighters, the details of which will be announced later.
meat suit
30th October 2023, 09:18
I have noticed a little bit of chatter about the lease of land for Israel expiring on the 31.10.2023.
In 2 days...
Might be just nonsense, but just drop these links here without having investigated.
https://article.wn.com/view/2023/10/29/Israel_corp_expiring_10_31_2023_explanation/
https://article.wn.com/view/2023/10/27/Israels_Balfour_lease_on_Israels_land_expires_on_the_31st/
https://t.me/MajorFreddysChannel/37421
Agape
30th October 2023, 10:04
In the view of God ( merciful and compassionate) 🙏
You may also observe that while Egypt was controlled by the cult of Ra and his oversight, internal circle of pharaoh and priests dedicated themselves to La: ( LaH)
subtle aspect of God who was kind, ecstatic, Life and Love.
Moses was son of Pharaoh and initiate who was aware of the inner secrets of language, science and thought on advanced level to his times and society.
After receiving the “script” and the vision on Mt Sinai , he evacuated some 100 thousand from the wrath of Ra,
in the name of Al, El, La ..and so forth.
Arabic tribes of the deserts adopted similar pattern to their worship.
However. Today’s IsrEl is controlled by the Power of the Snake.
Notice the King Cobra guards and symbolizes, among else , so called scientific power of ancient Egypt that denied existence of God.
Buddha Shakyamuni and many Indian sages are also protected by the Cobra ( Yakuza, and so forth ..) because even the darkest power is aware of the meaning of enlightenment as a passage to God, Light , kinder and more advanced states of existence liberated from pain and suffering.
superior88
30th October 2023, 12:46
Published on 24oct but today i came across it, not sure if its posted already or it still can add sense to the big picture
What really happened on 7th October?
(https://new.thecradle.co/articles/what-really-happened-on-7th-october)
Tintin
30th October 2023, 14:38
Cross posting from here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122141-I-am-sorry-but-i-have-to-let-it-out&p=1583941&viewfull=1#post1583941):
(Unlike in the Russia-NATO war, when NATO is net evil motivated) I don't believe there are any good sides in this conflict; and that mutual destruction, egged on by the domination of violent extremists on both sides, is probably the most likely outcome.
But the main point I would make is that I do not believe that a "two state solution" is possible, from where things are now.
Surely Palestine is not a viable autonomous state, for many reasons - including that it is mostly children; and that it is dispersed across two geographically unconnected areas, with the West Bank lacking a cohesive concentration, and no economy or government to speak of.
If a new Palestine was created, surely it could only exist as some kind of puppet and subsidized regime? A very unstable situation.
I'm sorry to say that - from here - I think that mutual destruction is most likely; second most likely is the end of Israel only; third most likely the complete ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Israel (under US/ NATO protection) - and perhaps even more likely than these, and perhaps inevitable without major regime-change in the USA: escalation to full-on world war III.
(It only takes one side to start a fight - or, more exactly, the choice is between war and unopposed genocide.)
In other words, I don't see any real likelihood of a good outcome. My understanding is that this situation has been deliberately set-up (with collusion from elements on both sides) with destruction in mind, and there seems no realistic way-out.
But of course I may well be wrong! And I hope that I am - I have often/ usually been wrong in the past when trying to predict geopolitical stuff!
(in bold): BOOM! That's the payload, 100 percent :muscle:
Simplicius The Thinker has described much of what is swirling around right now as an "eschatological frenzy (https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/world-plummets-into-eschatological)".
To be further borne in mind: Hamas is an ideology, it cares not for the Palestinian people, and is prepared to use them and sacrifice them as they most assuredly have done: is a Qatari funded and Israeli (Zionist) enabled entity set up for precisely as Bruce has described here - mutual all-out destruction.
The British Zionist creation of the provisional state of "Isra-El" shares the same racist, repugnant anti-human ideology as Hamas. It is not and never has been 'Jewish'; that's something else entirely far removed from Israel/Zionism.
Contiguous with this, lest we not forget, is that Hamas (and Hezbollah) have a heavy presence in Mexico and now armed quite nicely by the washing of money (armaments) 'through Ukraine' - although they never made it to Ukraine to start with! - now pose a very real danger via the US southern border.
This won't end well.
I wish it could but I do suspect, as you (Bruce) have shared before, we are witnessing the unleashing of the Sorathic force. :flower:
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I have noticed a little bit of chatter about the lease of land for Israel expiring on the 31.10.2023.
In 2 days...
Might be just nonsense, but just drop these links here without having investigated.
https://article.wn.com/view/2023/10/29/Israel_corp_expiring_10_31_2023_explanation/
https://article.wn.com/view/2023/10/27/Israels_Balfour_lease_on_Israels_land_expires_on_the_31st/
https://t.me/MajorFreddysChannel/37421
Thanks - I'll have to check the links.
My growing understanding is that 'Israel' is only a provisional state, and that it was registered as a corporation in 1968.
There's more digging for me to do there.
Tintin
30th October 2023, 14:50
Let's not, you know, hold back or anything here and just call it out for what it is:
Zionism Is Bull****, by Craig Murray, from 2009.
Every word Craig, every word as relevant as can be :muscle: :flower:
Title: Craig Murray | Stop the Gaza massacre Demonstration London 10 January 2009
Source: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/10/zionism-is-bull****-2/
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Bruce G Charlton
30th October 2023, 15:02
@Tintin. Thanks! And I agree with what you have said.
I don't, however, go along with the idea in Simplicius that this conflict is religiously motivated or that its origins are eschatological (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eschatology).
Almost the opposite - I think that (demonic-influenced) geopolitical powers are using religions to pursue an agenda leading to the mass destruction and death of religious people, by manipulating people to fight and kill each other with the excuse of religious ("eschatological") reasons.
In other words; the people (and beings) who planned, escalated, and sustain this conflict are Not religiously motivated in any way - exactly the opposite. They are against God (against any religious concept of God - Jewish and Islamic, as well as Christian) and against divine creation and its order.
Those behind this atrocity/ genocidal response are Not trying to achieve any religious goal of any kind - but to prevent anything of the kind.
As Scott Ritter pointed out recently, things are probably - so far - going exactly according to the plan of Hamas when they made the October 7 attack; and the State of Israel has walked into a trap designed to ensure its destruction: a Final Solution to the problem of Israel's existence...
At the same time, elements who appear to control the state of Israel (ether from within, or externally) also seem to have achieved exactly what they wanted from the Oct 7 events - which is the prospect of a Final Solution to Israel's problems...
But I believe that above such elements on both sides (I mean, in control of, influencing such elements), who both see this war as providing the Final Solution to their opposite core problem; there are those whose agenda is mutual destruction of both sides; and as many others around the region and the world, who can be induced to 'join-in' with this conflict.
Those whose plan is for mutual destruction of both Israel and Palestinians, are the ones currently winning, and who have (I guess, at present) the best chance of getting what they want.
Tintin
30th October 2023, 15:36
This article best describes the document contents, in English. Those versed in Hebrew may well understand the document anyway, so I've embedded it at the foot of this post.
The complete document of the Ministry of Intelligence: occupation of Gaza and total transfer of its residents
A document on behalf of the Ministry of Intelligence, the full content of which is published here for the first time, recommends the forced transfer of the population of the Gaza Strip to Sinai permanently, and calls for the international community to be harnessed for the move. The document also suggests promoting a dedicated campaign for the residents of Gaza that will "motivate them to agree to the plan"
By: Yuval Avraham 28.10.2023
Source: https://www.mekomit.co.il/%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%A1%D7%9E%D7%9A-%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%90-%D7%A9%D7%9C-%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%93-%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%93%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%9F-%D7%9B%D7%99%D7%91%D7%95%D7%A9-%D7%A2%D7%96%D7%94-%D7%95/
An official document of the Ministry of Intelligence recommends that the security system carry out a full transfer of all residents of the Gaza Strip to North Sinai, as the preferred option among the three alternatives it offers regarding the future of the Palestinians in the Strip at the end of the war.
>> And if we survive the war, how will we rest the fragments of our lives?
The existence of the document does not necessarily indicate that its recommendations are being considered by the security system. Despite its name, the Ministry of Intelligence is not responsible for any intelligence body, but independently prepares studies and policy papers, which are distributed for perusal by the government and security bodies but are not binding on them. The annual budget of the office is about NIS 25 million and its influence is considered relatively small.
The document recommends that Israel act "to evacuate the Gazan population to Sinai" during the war: to establish tent cities and new cities in northern Sinai, which will accommodate the deported population, and then "to create a sterile zone of several kilometers inside Egypt and not allow the population to return to activity or residence near the Israeli border." At the same time, countries in the world, and primarily the USA, must be harnessed to implement the move.
The ten-page document is dated October 13, and features the logo of the Ministry of Intelligence headed by Minister Gila Gamliel of the Likud. An official at the Ministry of Intelligence confirmed to "Local Talk" that this is an authentic document, which was distributed to the security system on behalf of the Ministry's Policy Division, and "was not supposed to reach the media."
The document unequivocally and explicitly recommends carrying out a transfer of civilians from Gaza as the desired outcome of the war. This week its existence was reported in "Calcalist" and it is published here in full. The transfer plan is divided into several phases: in the first phase, the population in Gaza must be "vacated to the south", while the Air Force strikes will focus on the northern part of the Strip. In the second phase, ground entry into Gaza will begin, which will lead to the occupation of the entire strip, from north to south, and the "cleansing of the underground bunkers from Hamas fighters."
At the same time as the Gaza Strip is occupied, the citizens of Gaza will move to Egyptian territory, leave the Strip, and will not be allowed to return to it permanently. "It is important to leave the traffic lanes towards the south usable, to allow the evacuation of the civilian population towards Rafah," the document states.
According to an official at the Ministry of Intelligence, the Ministry's personnel stand behind these recommendations. The source emphasized that the ministry's studies "are not based on military intelligence" and are only used as a basis for discussions in the government.
In the document, it is proposed to promote a dedicated campaign for citizens in Gaza that will "motivate them to agree to the plan", and make them give up their lands. "The messages should revolve around the loss of the land, that is to make it clear that there is no longer any hope of returning to the territories that Israel will occupy in the near future, whether this is true or not. The image should be "Allah made sure that you lost this land because of the leadership of Hamas - there is no choice but to move to another place with the help of Your Muslim brothers," the document reads.
In addition, it is written that the government must lead a public campaign that will promote the transfer program in the Western world "in a way that does not incite and blacken Israel", in which the deportation of the population from Gaza will be presented as a humanitarianly necessary move and will receive the support of the world because it will lead to "fewer casualties among the civilian population compared to the expected number of casualties And the oculus remains."
"Allah saw to it that you lost this land." Palestinians in Khan Yunis, October 14, 2023 (Photo: Abd Rahim Khatib / Flash 90)
The document also states that the US should be harnessed to the move so that it will put pressure on Egypt to take in the residents of Gaza, and to harness other European countries, and in particular Greece, Spain and Canada, to help take in and settle the refugees who will be evacuated from Gaza. The Ministry of Intelligence said that the document was not distributed through the ministry to US officials, but only to the Israeli government and security agencies.
Last week, the "Meshgav Institute", a right-wing research institute led by Meir Ben Shabat, a close associate of Netanyahu and the former head of the National Assembly, published a position paper that similarly called for the forced transfer of the population of Gaza to Sinai. The institute recently deleted the publication from Twitter after it drew strong international reactions.
Interestingly, the deleted study was written by Amir Weitman, an activist in Likud, and according to evidence, also an associate of Minister Gila Gamaliel in the Ministry of Intelligence. Weitman recently interviewed Knesset member Ariel Kellner of the Likud, who told him that "the solution you are proposing, to move the population to Egypt, is a logical and necessary solution."
And this is not the only connection between the Likud, the Ministry of Intelligence, and the right-wing research institute: about a month ago, the Ministry of Intelligence pledged to transfer about one million shekels from its budget to the "Meshgav Institute", so that it would conduct research on Arab countries for it. If the "Mashgav Institute" was involved in drafting the transfer document of the Ministry of Intelligence, its logo, at least, does not appear on the document.
Officials at the Ministry of Intelligence said that this was an independent study by the Ministry's policy department, without cooperation with an outside party, but confirmed that they recently started working with the "Meshgav Institute" and emphasized that they work with various research institutes with diverse political agendas. No response has yet been given from the "Mashgav Institute".
And here is another connection: the document of the Ministry of Intelligence was leaked for the first time in a small internal WhatsApp group of right-wing activists, who promote, together with Amir Weitman of the Likud, a lobby for the re-establishment of Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip and transfer to the Palestinian citizens who live there.
According to one of these activists, the document from the Ministry of Intelligence reached them through the mediation of "a member of the Likud" and its public distribution is related to an attempt to find out whether "the public in Israel is ready to accept ideas of a transfer from Gaza."
The chances of implementing such a plan, which amounts to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, are nil in many respects. The President of Egypt, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, recently stated that he strongly opposes the opening of the Rafah crossing in order to absorb a civilian population from Gaza. He said that the displacement of Palestinians from Gaza to Sinai would threaten Israeli peace with Egypt, and warned that it would lead to Israeli attacks on Egyptian territory. Al-Sisi himself proposed , however, several years ago to expand the territory of the Gaza Strip to Sinai and establish an independent Palestinian state there, a proposal that was rejected by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, outright.
A plan in a similar spirit was also presented in the past by other Israeli officials, and it also did not mature into a real discussion.
In relation to this difficulty, the document states that Egypt will have an "obligation under international law to allow the passage of a population", and that the United States can contribute to the move by exerting "pressure on Egypt, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates to contribute to the initiative either in resources or in accepting displaced persons". In the document, it is proposed to run a dedicated public campaign that will be addressed to the Arab world, to countries such as Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Libya, and Tunisia, "in which the message of aid to the Palestinian brothers and their rehabilitation is focused even at the cost of a tone that scolds or offends Israel."
Finally, it is written that "massive migration" of the population from combat zones is a "natural and necessary result" that also happened in Syria, Afghanistan, and Ukraine and that only the deportation of the population will be "an appropriate response that will allow the creation of a significant deterrent in the entire region."
"The most dangerous alternative": a Palestinian state
The document presents two other alternatives regarding the citizens of Gaza the day after the war. The first is to import the rule of the Palestinian Authority to Gaza, and the second is to grow another local Arab rule as an alternative to Hamas. Both alternatives, it is claimed, are not desirable from a strategic and security point of view for the State of Israel, and will not provide a sufficiently deterrent message, especially to Hezbollah in Lebanon, as a response to the massacre by Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
The drafters of the study claimed that the introduction of the Palestinian Authority into Gaza is the "most dangerous alternative" of the three, because it could "lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state."
"The division between the Palestinian population in Yosh and Gaza is one of the main obstacles today to the establishment of a Palestinian state. "It is not possible that the result of this attack ( the massacre by Hamas on October 7, 11), will be an unprecedented victory for the Palestinian national movement and paving the way for the establishment of a Palestinian state," the document reads.
The document claims that a model of Israeli military rule and PA civilian rule, as exists in the West Bank, is expected to fail in Gaza. "There is no way to maintain an effective military occupation in Gaza only on the basis of a military presence and without settlement. In a short time there will be an internal Israeli and international demand for withdrawal."
The drafters of the document added that in such a situation the State of Israel "will be considered a colonialist power with an occupying army... similar to the situation of Yosh today, only worse". A reason to think that it will be possible for her to rule there today.
The last alternative, the formation of a local Arab leadership to replace Hamas, is not desirable according to what is written in the document, because there are no local opposition movements to Hamas and the new leadership may be more radical. "The likely scenario is not a change in ideological perception, but the establishment of new, perhaps even more extreme, Islamist movements," it says in relation to this alternative.
Finally, it is claimed that if the population of Gaza remains in the Strip there will be "many Arab deaths" during the expected occupation of Gaza, and this will damage Israel's international image even more than the deportation of the population. For all these reasons, the recommendation of the Ministry of Intelligence is to promote the transfer of all citizens from Gaza to Sinai permanently.
There was no response from the Ministry of Defense, the spokeswoman for the army and the "Meshgav" Institute until the time of publication of the article.
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https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/2023-10-13_Israel_Ministry_of_Intelligence_Occupation_of_Gaza_and_total_transfer_of_its_residents.pdf
Tintin
30th October 2023, 16:27
From Wikileaks' Twitter account (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1718947136795025915) today: How US moved to block International Criminal Court referral for alleged Israeli war crimes after 2009 Goldstone report. Cable dated February 22nd 2010
Archive.org source:https://web.archive.org/web/20220627211601/https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10STATE15722_a.html#efmAciAc8B8SCCO
Avalon library copy: https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/10STATE15722_How_US_blocked_ICC_alleged_Israeli_war_crimes_%28Goldstone_report%29.pdf
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Specifically:
4. (SBU) The Goldstone Report
was commissioned by the Human Rights Council (HRC) in Geneva to investigate
Israeli violations of international humanitarian and human
rights law during the 2008 ? 2009 conflict in Gaza. The
original HRC mandate was blatantly unbalanced, focusing on
Israel, and did not call for investigation of Hamas'
actions. The fact-finding mission was led by Justice
Richard Goldstone of South Africa, who sought in practice
to broaden his terms of reference to include Hamas and
Palestinian Authority actions.
6. (SBU) In October 2009, the Goldstone Report was also taken up by the UN General Assembly, where a
Palestinian-drafted resolution endorsing the HRC
resolution on Goldstone passed on November 5, 2009 (114 in
favor, 18 opposed (U.S.), 44 abstentions and 16 absentees)
calling on each side to ?undertake investigations that are
independent, credible and in conformity with international
standards.? The UN Secretary General was requested to
report within a period of three months on the resolution's
implementation. This resolution also called for the
Goldstone Report to be referred to the UN Security Council
and had other problematic aspects
Gwin Ru
30th October 2023, 16:48
...
... religious programming called to task:
Alastair Crooke: The Deterrence Paradigm has Failed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohj-wHm9ICk) 27:55
Streamed live 89 minutes ago
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@thenima (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrHSeXI1ea7iS2BZKlRfQFw)
36 minutes ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohj-wHm9ICk&lc=UgwT41Re31GLle6IwAZ4AaABAg)
Much respect to Alistair for having the courage to speak out the truly horrendous worldview of using Scripture to justify mass murder.
Ohj-wHm9ICk
Related:
Ancient Deception In Modern Times and Netanyahu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RYdzXBQj5Q) 1:38:04 (real meaning of the word "Netanyahu")
The Charem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8gPc8K3mn0) 1:06:15 (about Amalek and Amalekite)
Tintin
30th October 2023, 17:04
Related to this post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Hamas-a-New-Middle-East-War&p=1583957&viewfull=1#post1583957) concerning the Goldstone Report 2009 there is now a copy of this in the Avalon Library in this directory: Goldstone_Report_(2009)_A-HRC-12-48 the PDF of which is here:
https://avalonlibrary.net/Goldstone_Report_%282009%29_A-HRC-12-48/Human_Rights_in_Palestine_%2B_Other_occupied_Arab_Territories_%28UNGA_Report_of_the_United_Nations_F act-Finding_Mission_on_the_Gaza_Conflict_A-HRC-12-48_dated_September_25_2009%29_Goldstone_report.pdf
Tintin
30th October 2023, 17:11
Upon checking the library earlier I realised, much to my own surprise, that we were deficient to the tune of one, in the Samson Option department. This has now been rectified :)
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Seymour M. Hersh - The Samson Option - Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy (1991)
Link in the ebooks section, here:
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Seymour%20M.%20Hersh%20-%20The%20Samson%20Option%20-%20Israel%27s%20Nuclear%20Arsenal%20and%20American%20Foreign%20Policy%20%281991%29.pdf
Bill Ryan
30th October 2023, 17:24
A most interesting piece on The Moon of Alabama today.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/biden-forced-to-call-off-his-plans-for-ethenic-cleansing-of-gaza.html#more
Biden Forced to Call Off his Plans for Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza
The U.S. government under Joe Biden had developed plans (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-plans-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza.html) to ethnically cleanse Gaza by moving all of its 2.3 million people into Egypt:
Harry Sisson @harryjsisson - 2:44 UTC · Oct 11, 2023 (https://twitter.com/harryjsisson/status/1711920721603989552) Amazing: President Biden is working on a plan with other countries that would allow civilians to safely leave Gaza and cross the border into Egypt. This is great news. President Biden is making sure that innocent people don’t die due to the actions of Hamas. That’s leadership.
The NSC spokesperson had confirmed that plan:
US 'actively working' to establish safe corridor for Gaza civilians: White House (https://www.yenisafak.com/en/news/us-actively-working-to-establish-safe-corridor-for-gaza-civilians-white-house-3671746) - Yeni Safak - Oct 12, 2023
The US is in active talks with Israel and Egypt to establish "safe passage" corridors for civilians in Gaza to flee ongoing Israeli airstrikes, the White House said Wednesday amid an expected ground offensive in the besieged enclave. "We're actively discussing this with our Israeli and our Egyptian counterparts, we support safe passions for civilians. Civilians are not to blame for what Hamas has done. They didn't do anything wrong," National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters at the White House.
"We are actively working on this with Egyptian and our Israeli counterparts. Civilians are protected under the laws of armed conflict, and they should be given every opportunity to avoid the fighting," he added.
This all was based on a plan originally developed by radical Zionist within the government of Israel:
Leaked: Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza (https://new.thecradle.co/articles/leaked-israeli-plan-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza) - The Cradle - Oct 29, 2023
Israeli culture magazine Mekovit published (https://www.mekomit.co.il/%d7%94%d7%9e%d7%a1%d7%9e%d7%9a-%d7%94%d7%9e%d7%9c%d7%90-%d7%a9%d7%9c-%d7%9e%d7%a9%d7%a8%d7%93-%d7%94%d7%9e%d7%95%d7%93%d7%99%d7%a2%d7%99%d7%9f-%d7%9b%d7%99%d7%91%d7%95%d7%a9-%d7%a2%d7%96%d7%94-%d7%95/) on 28 October a leaked document issued by Israel’s Ministry of Intelligence recommending the occupation of Gaza and total transfer of its 2.3 million inhabitants to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula. The document, issued on 13 October, identifies a plan to transfer all residents of the Gaza Strip to North Sinai as the preferred option among three alternatives regarding the future of the Palestinians in Gaza at the end of the current war between Israel and the Hamas-led Palestinian resistance.
The document recommends that Israel evacuate the Gazan population to Sinai during the war, establish tent cities and new cities in northern Sinai to accommodate the deported population, and then create a closed security zone stretching several kilometers inside Egypt. The deported Palestinians would not be allowed to return to any areas near the Israeli border.
Egypt of course rejected any such plans. As I had explained (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/netanyahoos-strategic-dilema.html):
Netanyahu's Strategic Dilemma (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/netanyahoos-strategic-dilema.html) - Moon of Alabama - Oct 21, 2023
Israel, with the help of the U.S., has tried to push the population of Gaza into Egypt. From Egypt's standpoint that would be a humanitarian solution, at least as long as others pay for it. But it would cause a serious strategic problem. Resistance by Hamas and others against Israel would continue indefinitely, but Egypt would be held responsible for it. It can not and will not take on that burden.Despite that logic the White House continued to proceed with its plan. Its request to Congress to finance the wars in the Ukraine and Gaza with up to $106 billion included these lines (pg 40):
Letter regarding critical national security funding needs for FY 2024 (https://whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Letter-regarding-critical-national-security-funding-needs-for-FY-2024.pdf) - White House - Oct 20, 2023
These resources would support displaced and conflict-affected civilians, including Palestinian refugees in Gaza and the West Bank, and to address potential needs of Gazans fleeing to neighboring countries. This would include food and non- food items, healthcare, emergency shelter support, water and sanitation assistance, and emergency protection. This would also include potential critical humanitarian infrastructure costs needed for the refugee population to provide access to basic, life-sustaining support. This crisis could well result in displacement across border and higher regional humanitarian needs, and funding may be used to meet evolving programming requirements outside of Gaza.Russia had called out the plan for the nonsense it is:
Middle East and Central Asia. Lavrov on the interests of the USA and the West, parallels with Ukraine (https://eng.belta.by/society/view/middle-east-and-central-asia-lavrov-on-the-interests-of-the-usa-and-the-west-parallels-with-ukraine-162941-2023/) - Belta - Oct 28, 2023
“It is clear that such an approach is disastrous, because if the Gaza Strip is destroyed, if two million residents are driven out, as some politicians in Israel and abroad are implying, this will create a catastrophe that will last for many decades, if not centuries,” Sergey Lavrov noted.Backed by Russia the Egyptian resistance against the plan continued. A phone call held yesterday finally buried it:
Sisi, Biden probe developments of Gaza escalation, reject displacement of Palestinians (https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/1234/511228/Egypt/Foreign-Affairs/Sisi,-Biden-probe-developments-of-Gaza-escalation,.aspx) - Ahram Online - Oct 29, 2023
During the call, El-Sisi reiterated Egypt’s firm rejection of policies that collectively punish and displace the Palestinian people. Biden, for his part, affirmed to El-Sisi that the US likewise rejects the displacement of Palestinians outside their homeland, expressing his appreciation for the positive role played by Egypt in this crisis, said Egyptian Presidential Spokesman Ahmed Fahmy.
The call touched upon the importance of preventing the expansion of the conflict into the region, added Fahmy.
During the call, El-Sisi reiterated Egypt’s firm rejection of policies that collectively punish and displace the Palestinian people. Biden, for his part, affirmed to El-Sisi that the US likewise rejects the displacement of Palestinians outside their homeland, expressing his appreciation for the positive role played by Egypt in this crisis, said Egyptian Presidential Spokesman Ahmed Fahmy.
Biden was forced to publicly declare that his plans for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza were called off:
President Biden @POTUS - 21:23 UTC · Oct 29, 2023 (https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1718740437249245326) I also spoke with President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi to share my appreciation for Egypt facilitating the delivery of humanitarian assistance to Gaza.
We reaffirmed our commitment to work together and discussed the importance of protecting civilian lives, respect for international humanitarian law, and ensuring that Palestinians in Gaza are not displaced to Egypt or any other nation.
This is another failure of the dimwit policies cooked up by National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan and SecState Anthony Blinken as directed by their Zionist puppeteers.
I for one support all plans that would allow them to safely leave Washington DC. They can move to Antarctica or to wherever the climate is severe enough to cool their genocidal moods.
Gwin Ru
31st October 2023, 01:47
...
... Col. Macgregor Shares BOMBSHELL Intel on UKRAINE and ISRAEL! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PabGlfduLJE) 38:16
Oct 30, 2023
https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/APkrFKYvwOZnfU85Z4bsKWfb6K6pof_ydV2z_V3pk9Xhe8M=s48-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj (https://www.youtube.com/@StephenGardner1) Stephen Gardner (https://www.youtube.com/@StephenGardner1)
PabGlfduLJE
Colonel Douglas Macgregor gives a news update on the Ukraine Russia war and the Isreal Palestine conflict with Stephen Gardner.
Incidents in Russia involving Israeli travelers met by a group allegedly hostile to Jews, sparking worries about potential sleeper cells formed by displaced Arabs in various countries. This story ended up being a lie.
Belarus President Lukashenko's call to cease fighting in Ukraine, raising questions about his stance regarding Putin's interests and whether it's a betrayal or wise observation.
Speculation on Putin's health and its impact on the war in Ukraine, with conflicting reports on his well-being.
Questions about U.S. intelligence support for Israel, concerns about funding multiple wars, and whether the Treasury Secretary's statement reflects confidence in financial support or is merely bluffing.
The Israeli Defense Forces' decision for a slower ground attack on Hamas in Gaza, prompting discussions about the strategy's appropriateness.
Considerations regarding Israel's diplomatic capabilities amid heightened emotions in the region.
Analysis of potential interventions by Turkey and Jordan in the Israel-Gaza conflict and Ukraine's challenges in maintaining alliances amid multiple fronts.
Assessment of potential threats to Israel, including the perceived danger posed by the Turkish military.
The recent altercation between a U.S. B-52 bomber and a Chinese fighter jet and the motivations behind such encounters, raising questions of intimidation and provocation between the two nations.
Reports of Chinese warships in the Persian Gulf, prompting speculation about whether their presence is related to safeguarding interests or aimed at intimidating Israel.
thepainterdoug
31st October 2023, 03:23
one of the best assessments of this situation i have heard thus far.
Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 04:02
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718762587133825148
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 04:05
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719133156131934445
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 04:08
https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1719180578526785851
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 04:14
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719103940485140905
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 04:21
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1718999850128224531
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 04:37
https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1719186429450805281
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 04:56
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719211586215108849
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 05:00
https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1719214424437731832
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ExomatrixTV
31st October 2023, 07:33
This Norwegian Doctor Worked For 16 Years In The Hospital That Hamas Would Use As Its "Headquarters"
Israel claims that Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital serves as a command center for Hamas. Norwegian physician Mads Gilbert, who has worked at Al-Shifa for 16 years says there is "no evidence at all" that that is the case.
"If it was a military command center, I would not work there."
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Hamas uses Gaza's largest hospital as a command center, the Israeli army says (https://nos.nl/collectie/13959/artikel/2495608-leger-israel-hamas-gebruikt-groot-ziekenhuis-als-hoofdkwartier) . The Al-Shifa hospital would provide access to tunnels dug by Hamas, in which the group's terrorists are said to have hidden after the attack on Israel.
Norwegian doctor Mads Gilbert has worked at the hospital for 16 years and says there is no evidence to support this claim. “We've been hearing those claims since 2009,” he told Democracy Now! “Twice they threatened to bomb it.”
“I worked at Shifa Hospital during very hectic periods for 16 years,” Gilbert continued. “I was able to walk around freely, take photos and videos, I slept in the hospital during bombings, I went everywhere.”
No Evidence Whatsoever
If there is a command center, show us, the doctor emphasized. “Why is there no evidence after 16 years?”
If it were a military command center, I wouldn't work there because I adhere to the Geneva Convention, said Gilbert, who has worked in hospitals in Gaza for decades. In his view, this is part of a large-scale intimidation campaign.
Mass Murder of Civilians
The doctor pointed out that a child is killed every 10 minutes in Gaza. According to him, 3,324 Palestinian children have been killed in the past three weeks. In addition, 2,062 children are missing in Gaza.
Gilbert asks US President Biden and Vice President Harris what on earth they are doing. "Do you have any children? Do you accept that the Israeli army you support kills thousands of children?”
He calls for a ceasefire and wants the siege of Gaza lifted so that aid can reach residents. “My colleagues are overworked, they have been working day and night for three weeks. This has to stop. I don't need to use the word genocide, suffice it to say that this is mass murder of civilians.”
dutch (https://www.ninefornews.nl/deze-noorse-arts-werkte-16-jaar-in-het-ziekenhuis-dat-hamas-zou-gebruiken-als-hoofdkwartier/) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳
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ExomatrixTV
31st October 2023, 07:37
"I'm EXPOSING what they are planning in Israel.." - Douglas Macgregor's Last Warning!
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ExomatrixTV
31st October 2023, 07:52
WARMONGER Hillary Clinton MOCKS Israel CEASEFIRE, Fetterman KICKS OUT Constituent Over Gaza: Rising
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Jessica Burbank and Robby Soave discuss Hillary Clinton's lack of support in the Israel-Hamas war.
ExomatrixTV
31st October 2023, 08:12
NEW: MTG Will Vote NO On Israel War Funding; 'FED UP With AMERICA LAST!':
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Jessica Burbank and Robby Soave give the latest update on Israel-Hamas war, including Israel's expansion of its ground assault.
ExomatrixTV
31st October 2023, 08:18
Leaked video: This is what Netanyahu said about the Palestinians and the world in 2001:
A video is circulating on the internet in which Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu unfolds his plans without any qualms. The images were taken in 2001 during an interview. Netanyahu is under the impression that the cameras are turned off.
In the video, Netanyahu, who refused to return to national politics in 2001, makes disparaging comments about the United States and the Palestinians. He also says that he was responsible for the failure of the Oslo Accords (https://x.com/KimIversenShow/status/1718662627713573337?s=20). The video was later leaked (https://mronline.org/2010/07/19/netanyahu-america-wont-get-in-our-way/) to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
https://hugh.cdn.rumble.cloud/video/s8/2/e/i/D/R/eiDRn.gaa.mp4
source (https://rumble.com/v3smvpg-october-30-2023.html)
Unbearable
Netanyahu says 'we must hit the Palestinians hard first'. “Not once, but several times, they have to suffer. So much pain that the price they pay will be unbearable.”
A full-scale attack on the Palestinian Authority, until they reach the point where they fear everything will collapse. The fear that everything will collapse. That is what we must achieve, Netanyahu said.
"The World Will Say Nothing"
When asked whether he is not afraid that the world will see Israel as an occupier, he replied: “The world will say nothing. The world will say we are defending ourselves.”
“I know what the Americans are like. America is very easy to influence. They will not stand in our way,” he added. What if America does say something? “Then they say something, and then what? Eighty percent of Americans support us. It's absurd, but we have a lot of support there.”
dutch (https://www.ninefornews.nl/gelekte-video-dit-zei-netanyahu-in-2001-over-de-palestijnen-en-de-wereld) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳
grapevine
31st October 2023, 08:42
Genocidal Onslaught on Gaza Shocks Conscience of the World, w/ Abby Martin
Rania Khalek and Abby Martin discuss the situation in Gaza and the continued gaslighting and propaganda by Israel and Zionists in the west (ie, our leaders). As the death toll rises daily how can we continue to watch this unacceptable nightmare without feeling complete revulsion?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF7qndyvmEE (54.31 mins)
Israel’s genocide in Gaza has shocked the conscience of the entire world, with an endless flow of videos and images of Palestinian children cut into pieces by American bombs dropped by Israeli warplanes deliberately intended to destroy a civilian population. Despite the explicitly genocidal rhetoric of Israeli officials, Western leaders continue to proclaim their support for Israel’s right to “defend itself.” But this war on Gaza is different from past wars, not only in the level of Israeli aggression, but in the reaction on the street, from the Middle East to the United States. Israel is losing the narrative war. Most people want to see a ceasefire and tens of thousands have protested across the US to demonstrate their opposition to Biden’s unconditional support for this genocide.
shaberon
31st October 2023, 13:47
A few minor adjustments (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1957595) which include some drone footage of a pile of Israeli soldiers that quit working:
Al-Qassam Brigades, along with Al-Quds Brigades, the military wings of Hamas and the Islamic Jihad resistance groups, announced their fighters were confronting several attempts by Israeli occupation forces to stage incursion into the coastal enclave.
On its Telegram Channel, Al-Qassam Brigades announced that its fighters hit 15 Israeli vehicles including 6 tanks in several areas where the Israeli occupation forces attempted to stage incursions in, including Erez crossing – northwest of Gaza -, Beit Hanoun, Zeitoun Neighborhood and south of the Gaza strip.
AL-Quds Brigades declared its fighters targeted gatherings of Israeli occupation forces in Erez crossing and Al-Atatera Neighborhood.
Occupation Army Spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari stated that Israeli forces were engaging in “fierce, close-quarters battles” in Gaza, adding that “this type of combat endangers our forces and carries a heavy price,” which will demand “a great deal of resilience and patience” from the Israeli public in the coming weeks.
Abu Ubeida, the spokesman of Al-Qassam Brigades, stressed that the resistance views an Israeli ground invasion as an opportunity.
“We want to convey to our enemy that we are impatiently awaiting the opportunity to introduce [its forces] to new forms of demise.”
At precisely 14:30 on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, Islamic Resistance fighters launched guided missiles, targeting a Merkava tank in the proximity of the Branit Barracks, resulting in the tank’s destruction and inflicting casualties among its crew, with fatalities and injuries
Al-Qassam Brigades launches an airstrike on Tel Aviv.
Israeli Army Radio: Iron Dome system fails to intercept multiple missiles launched towards Tel Aviv.
The Yemeni Armed Forces declare the launch of a substantial wave of ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones aimed at Zionist enemy targets.
Kryztian
31st October 2023, 14:37
Kim Iversen reveals documents leaked from the Israeli Intelligence Ministry that show Israel's plan to remove every last Palestinian from the Gaza strip.
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The document shows three possible plans, but "Option C" is listed as the "best and final solution" (The words final solution were used by Nazis when discussing how to deal with the Jews of Europe. Initially it was a plan to ship them all to the island of Madagascar, but eventually shifted to using concentration camps for mass murder.)
Option C involves removing all Palestinians from the Gaza strip into the Sinai Penninsula (which is part of Egypt, although was occupied for more than a decade by Israel.)
Kim lays out how this might happen:
The IDF will bomb the Gaza strip, starting in the north, pushing people towards the Egyptian border.
Egypt, which is dependent on payments from the U.S., will be presuured to open up a humanitarian corridor.
And the whole operation will be financed by U.S. taxpayer dollars.
Kryztian
31st October 2023, 14:44
Expel all Palestinians from Gaza, recommends Israeli gov’t ministry
An Intelligence Ministry document revealed by Local Call and +972 shows how the idea of population transfer to the Sinai is reaching official discussions.
https://www.972mag.com/intelligence-ministry-gaza-population-transfer/
By Yuval Abraham - October 30, 2023
The Israeli Ministry of Intelligence is recommending the forcible and permanent transfer of the Gaza Strip’s 2.2 million Palestinian residents to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, according to an official document revealed in full for the first time by +972’s partner site Local Call yesterday.
The 10-page document, dated Oct. 13, 2023, bears the logo of the Intelligence Ministry — a small governmental body that produces policy research and shares its proposals with intelligence agencies, the army, and other ministries. It assesses three options regarding the future of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip in the framework of the current war, and recommends a full population transfer as its preferred course of action. It also calls on Israel to enlist the international community in support of this endeavor. The document, whose authenticity was confirmed by the ministry, has been translated into English in full here on +972.
The existence of the document does not necessarily indicate that its recommendations are being considered by Israel’s defense establishment. Despite its name, the Intelligence Ministry is not directly responsible for any intelligence body, but rather independently prepares studies and policy papers that are distributed to the Israeli government and security agencies for review, but are not binding. The ministry’s annual budget is NIS 25 million and its influence is considered relatively small. It is currently headed by Gila Gamliel, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud Party.
However, the fact that an Israeli government ministry has prepared such a detailed proposal amid a large-scale military offensive on the Gaza Strip, following Hamas’ deadly assault and massacres in southern Israeli communities on Oct. 7, reflects how the idea of forced population transfer is being raised to the level of official policy discussions. Fears of such plans — which would constitute a serious war crime under international law — have grown in recent weeks, especially after the Israeli army ordered about 1 million Palestinians to evacuate the northern Gaza Strip ahead of escalating bombardment and incremental ground incursions.
The document recommends that Israel act to “evacuate the civilian population to Sinai” during the war; establish tent cities and later more permanent cities in the northern Sinai that will absorb the expelled population; and then create “a sterile zone of several kilometers … within Egypt, and [prevent] the return of the population to activities/residences near the border with Israel.” At the same time, governments around the world, led by the United States, must be mobilized to implement the move.
A source in the Intelligence Ministry confirmed to Local Call/+972 that the document was authentic, that it was distributed to the defense establishment by the ministry’s policy division, and “was not supposed to reach the media.”
article, with links to the translated (from Hebrew) document, continues here: https://www.972mag.com/intelligence-ministry-gaza-population-transfer/
Tintin
31st October 2023, 14:58
UK issues D-Notices to suppress reports of SAS special forces operations in Gaza
By Robert Stevens | October 30th, 2023
Source: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/10/30/phuq-o30.html
Britain’s Conservative government has issued notices to the media to suppress reports of the operations of the Special Air Service (SAS) in Gaza.
On Saturday, the Socialist Worker, newspaper of the Socialist Workers Party, revealed it had been sent a “D Notice” Saturday morning from the Defence and Security Media Advisory (DSMA) Committee requesting it not publish information relating to the operations of the SAS.
Image link here: https://www.wsws.org/asset/341cf513-9d0f-4f10-8992-2aa4f97b97a9?rendition=image1280
October 28 article in Socialist Worker revealing the D Notice [Photo: screenshot: Socialist Worker]
D Notices are used by the British state to veto the publication of news damaging to its interests. The slavish collusion of the mainstream media ensures that such notices function as gag orders. A high level branch of the state, the DSMA’s chair is Paul Wyatt, Director General Security Policy at the Ministry of Defence. Other committee members include the Deputy National Security Adviser, Cabinet Office; Director National Security at the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office; Director National Security at the Home Office; and the Director National Security at the Ministry of Defence.
An article by Socialist Worker editor Charlie Kimber notes, “Specifically this ‘D notice’ concerned British special forces operating in the Middle East.” The e-mail to the media was from the DSMA secretary, Brigadier Geoffrey Dodds, he added.
Dodds states, “Reports have started to appear in some publications claiming that UK Special Forces have deployed to sensitive areas of the Middle East and then linking that deployment to hostage rescue/evacuation operations.
“May I take this opportunity to remind editors that publication of such information contravenes the DSMA notice code. I therefore advise that claims of such deployments should not be published nor broadcast without first seeking Defence and Security Media advice”.
He added, “This Notice aims to prevent the inadvertent disclosure of classified information about Special Forces and other MOD units engaged in security, intelligence and counter-terrorist operations, including their methods, techniques and activities.”
Dodds warned, “Such disclosure could reveal details of operations or operating methods and techniques before, during and after their execution which would bestow an advantage on an adversary which could endanger national security and increase the risk to UK lives.”
The SWP notes, “The Daily Mail newspaper, which has the right sort of contacts for such a story [referred to by Dodds], had reported, ‘UK’s elite SAS on ‘standby in Cyprus’ to rescue British hostages held captive in Gaza by Hamas’.”
The Mail’s story, published October 28, was largely culled from a piece printed in the Sun October 27. Published as an exclusive, this was headlined, “SAS troops on standby in Cyprus to rescue hostages and Brits stranded in Gaza”.
The article reports that “Some 200 Brits are stranded in Gaza after Israel and Egypt sealed the strip’s borders and five are held there by Hamas terrorists.” So the “elite soldiers are also braced to free UK citizens trapped by the bloodbath.”
The Sun notes, “Britain’s military bases in Cyprus offer a strategic presence in the eastern Med.” It adds, “And the SAS sabre squadron has been joined on the island by a 100-strong crisis command team.”
Just how the SAS are supposed to rescue around 200 hostages and a further 200 British citizens in Gaza in the middle of carpet bombing and a ground invasion by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) is not explained by the Sun, though the Mail notes that a former SAS soldier has warned that such an attempt could “end in disaster… It will be a complete and utter nightmare.”
Moreover, it is highly likely that there are no hostages left alive, such is the intensity of Israeli bombing of the tunnels in Gaza City, where it is understood they were being held.
According to a statement by the Gaza Strip media office issued on October 24, Israel had by that point already dropped more than 12,000 tons of explosives on the Gaza Strip since October 7, “The explosive force of these explosives is equivalent to the nuclear bomb dropped on Hiroshima in Japan”, it stated, adding, “An average of 33 tons of explosives were dropped per square kilometer on the Palestinian enclave since Israel started its aggression”.
The bombing has only intensified since.
The SAS is not on standby in Cyprus on some mercy mission to rescue hostages. What the story points to is the preparation by the SAS to work alongside the IDF in Gaza as part of the Netanyahu government’s declared aim to “wipe Hamas off the face of the earth”—in the words of retired army general and minister without portfolio Benny Gantz.
Benjamin Netanyahu himself is no stranger to special forces operations having himself once been a team leader in Sayeret Matkal, Israel’s equivalent of the SAS, who even have the same “Who Dares Wins” motto. Both of Netanyahu’s brothers also served in the unit.
Dodds is a senior military figure, notably a specialist in military planning. His biography on the DSMA website states that he took up the post of secretary in November 2016. “Prior to that he spent 36 years in the British Army as a Sapper Officer serving operationally in command appointments in the Falkland Islands, Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq. He has also served in United Nations Headquarters as a military planner, in various NATO posts and in military diplomatic appointments worldwide.”
Britain’s deepening involvement in two NATO-led wars, Ukraine and now Gaza, demands a clampdown on democratic rights, including media freedoms, and censorship of the crimes involved. Yet such is the self-censorship practised by the national media that in most cases the Defence and Security Media Advisory functions only in the capacity of sending out politely worded requests to its Committee members, including the Scottish Newspaper Society, the Press Association, the BBC, ITN, ITV, Sky TV and the Society of Editors.
In the minutes of a meeting of the DSMA held at the Ministry of Defence, it is recorded that a report delivered by Dodds noted with satisfaction that from October 27, 2022 to April 10, 2023, “no supplementary notices had been issued in the period” and that this was “positive, since the issue of these notices inevitably meant that sensitive information had not been contained at an earlier stage.”
No-one would ever hear of any D Notices being ordered were it not for independent media sources revealing them. The Socialist Worker’s article on the latest D Notice links to an earlier report, from April 1, 2022, that the newspaper was subject to another request that it not report on Ukrainian troops being trained by UK troops, a fact that the Times newspaper had already made public.
Two months earlier, Declassified UK revealed it had been asked by the DSMA to “remove part of our story revealing British support for an African dictatorship” [Cameroon], which it refused to do.
shaberon
31st October 2023, 15:42
The document shows three possible plans, but "Option C" is listed as the "best and final solution" (The words final solution were used by Nazis when discussing how to deal with the Jews of Europe. Initially it was a plan to ship them all to the island of Madagascar, but eventually shifted to using concentration camps for mass murder.)
Also, Virgin Islands and other low-profile places were destinations.
The "eventual shift" is that the Zionists said "No, they go to Palestine".
At that point, you might say, the Nazis tried to prevent the formation of Israel, that Jews became targets for rapid liquidation just for the fact of being Jewish, which was not really the case for the majority of the regime's existence.
So, like there is not much regard for prisoners getting shellacked by the current bombing, there was no regard for what happened to German Jews, as the main interest was rather in the Ukrainian ones. Just means that the fantasy of "Zion" is more important than human beings. Whatever it takes to make and maintain Disney Land, they will do it. Start with lies, add money, you get violence.
As to whether purging Gaza is merely step 836 on the way to Eretz Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates is something that can only be determined from fighting against it. If no one does, the cancer will spread, and the mental disease will be the only thing that exists in your language.
So far, I only see private factions doing it, not taking any taxpayer dollars.
thepainterdoug
31st October 2023, 15:51
EMERALDS LATEST!!! Had to share it.
Dear America: We've Got Our Own War To Win
Israel and Ukraine are just distractions from the great tyranny at home
EMERALD ROBINSON
OCT 31
Nothing in the swamp is a coincidence.
The Biden regime has been staring at a dismal fate just twelve months out from the 2024 election. There were impeachment charges in the House to face, and terrible approval polls to digest — even among Democrats. Things were so bad that the mysterious death of Barack Obama’s personal chef was getting attention.
It was a terrible news cycle.
Something had to change.
So the Biden regime sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas, for a “little war” in Israel as a distraction. Isn't it obvious?
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In fact, the United States “is currently funding virtually every side of every conflict in the Middle East” according to Trump advisor Stephen Miller.
Who can doubt that dismal truth?
Now wonder it seems so hard to keep Hamas’ barbaric raid from becoming the Last Great War. Since Washington has become the foreign-aid money-laundering capital of the world, our politicians seem to be taking all sides at once.
The Biden regime funnels dark money to Iran and military aid packages to Israel and humanitarian relief to Gaza — all at the same time.
Our strategy is to foment pure chaos.
We seem to be sleep-walking toward Armageddon — which people tend to forget is not only a metaphor but a place.
It’s the last battle on the plains of Megiddo in Israel.
Of course, America’s corporate media has faithfully complied with Obama-Biden’s “wag the dog” strategy. All that you have to do is compare the treatment of Ukraine to Israel to see the plan. Nearly 500,000 people have died in the Ukraine war — but the corporate media in America wouldn’t let you see three minutes of war footage in the last two years. Compare that total media blackout to the 24/7 coverage that Americans have been fed in the last few weeks of paragliding Muslim jihadists.
The CIA lets you see what it wants you to see.
All of this war coverage has had its desired effect. It's simply astonishing to see the number of Americans who can't stop talking about the Hamas invasion of Israel while 8 million illegal aliens swarm across their own border.
Isn’t it obvious? You are being diverted by the corporate media to care about a war that is not your problem.
Consider your present circumstances: your elections are rigged. An illegal regime, using a dementia patient who’s been bribed by China as its figurehead, just forced you to take a dangerous and untested shot — which has already killed many people. Your secret police are now arresting parents at school board meetings and infiltrating Christian churches openly. Your nation is being invaded at its border by millions of illegal aliens — and that invasion is taking place with the assistance of the Department of Homeland Security.
That's why America’s mass media has you worried about Gaza.
Look how easily your attention was diverted. Look how easy it was to make you dismiss your own interests. Look how quickly you forgot your own nation.
You might want to take a break from being a fool this time.
My advice to you is quite simple: stop obeying your television. You must retake your attention and your focus from the latest Current Thing.
Don't be distracted by the war in Israel.
Don't be distracted by the war in Ukraine.
You have your own war to win.
That war is at home.
The tyrants you must overthrow are right here in America.
I Need Your Help!
I was banned from Twitter in 2021 since I warned you about the dangerous COVID vaccines. Then left-wing hate groups targeted me in Washington Post articles to keep me banned on social media altogether. Now Smartmatic and Dominion want to search through my emails and telephone records.
It’s very expensive to prepare for litigation, and discovery, in these massive lawsuits brought by the voting machine companies. (Fox News paid out almost $800 million just last year.) They try to bankrupt and silence conservative journalists by dragging them through court proceedings for years.
Independent and fearless journalists need your support like never before.
I need your support like never before.
If we are going to survive the current regime then we must stand together.
I’ve got your back. Do you have mine?
Gwin Ru
31st October 2023, 17:06
...
... Yemen officially declares war on Israel (https://azeritimes.com/2023/10/31/yemen-officially-declares-war-on-israel/)
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Yemen has officially declared war on Israel, Brigadier General Yahya Sare’e, Spokesperson of the Yemeni Armed Forces, Report informs with reference to Nexta.
... hopefully, the ME cooky won't crumble further..?
ExomatrixTV
31st October 2023, 19:07
So What Is Zionism Exactly?
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There’s much debate about whether Zionism and Judaism are synonymous, and whether opposing Zionism automatically identifies a person as an antisemite. But what, precisely, does “Zionism” refer to? Guest host Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger talk to independent journalist and filmmaker Dan Cohen about the nature of Zionism and what most people mean when they discuss the subject.
Jews Against Zionism And Rothschilds (https://rumble.com/vwr5ve-jews-against-zionism-and-rothschilds.html) <<< (click on that!)
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shaberon
31st October 2023, 19:10
Dear America: We've Got Our Own War To Win
Israel and Ukraine are just distractions from the great tyranny at home
Those are good points.
There are those of us who ignore "news cycles"--new problem #3,799 does nothing to ameliorate problem #1, it just adds to the collection.
Again, that returns me to the #1: folks, we probably should not pass this Constitution. It makes a "consolidated government" capable of far too many corrupt and dangerous things.
This is at least the second salvo from Yemen to Israel, and it does sound like state action. Usually the military is not capable of "declaring war". But, Yemen may or may not be a "country" as we know it, and they may just start shooting without any regard to whatever their equivalent of a Parliament may think. This attack happened about ten minutes after the Iron Dome failed against Hamas missiles. That's why the U. S. wants to come in with Patriots, another system that does not effectively work, Saudi Arabia already found this out.
If it was me, I would probably exalt Yemen and Gaza as both being the real ancient cultures which formed civilization thousands of years before there was a Hebrew dialect. But, you know, that's just an objective fact that does not suit the narrative of news-cyclers.
ExomatrixTV
31st October 2023, 19:13
Israel Begins Ground Operation (Again), Hamas frees Hostages, Israeli Lies, Happy Halloween
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Does Israel have a Powerful Disinformation Apparatus?
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“I Lived In Gaza" What This Jewish American Journalist Experienced First Hand | A Conversation With Documentary Maker (https://rumble.com/v3rqs5s-killing-gaza-a-documentary-film-about-life-under-siege-dan-cohen-and-max-bl.html) Dan Cohen:
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shaberon
31st October 2023, 19:30
Here is the harsh way of putting it from Iranian FM Kani (https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14020809000366/Iran%E2%80%99s-Depy-FM-Israel-Be-Annihilaed-in-Case-f-Expansin-f-Gaza-War):
"If the war expands [any further] we cannot say that Israel would lose, because nothing will remain of Israel to be described as loser or winner," he warned.
I do not see a formal declaration of war, only operations (https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14020809000980/Yemeni-Army-Lanches-Large-Scale-Ballisic-Drne-Srikes-n-Occpied) by both Yemeni AF as well as the insurgency:
The prime minister of Yemen’s National Salvation Government also announced on Tuesday the launch of a drone attack by the Ansarullah resistance movement towards Israel’s Southern city of Eilat in “retaliation” for the war in Gaza.
Here is the future from Egypt (https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14020809000892/Egypian-PM-Cair-Ready-Sacrifice-'Millins'-Defend-Sinai) to the EU "planners":
Egypt's Prime Minister Mostafa Madbouly said his country will not allow anything to be "imposed" on the Sinai region during a visit to the area bordering Israel and besieged Gaza.
Madbouly's comments during a visit to a military base are seemingly a reference to proposals within Israel to resettle Gaza's Palestinian population in the Sinai, The Middle East reported.
"We are ready to spend millions of lives on every grain of sand here," Madbouly said, adding, "Egypt will never allow anything to be imposed on it."
Cancellation, for once, is now a sign of the times (https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14020809000846/Repr-Chinese-Tech-Gians-Cancel-Israel):
Israel can no longer be found on China's leading online digital maps on platforms including Baidu and Alibaba, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing web users.
According to the report, Baidu’s Chinese language maps still show the borders of both Israel and the Palestinian territories, as well as key cities in the region. However, they no longer identify Israel by name.
According to local reports, the Chinese internet has been overflowing with "anti-Semitic comments" over the past month, which may be the reason behind the disappearance of Israel’s name from the maps.
The Israeli Embassy in China was recently forced to close the comment section under its official account on China’s X-like platform Weibo, after a slew of verbal attacks from users.
The Chinese government has not taken sides in the Mideast conflict, calling on the belligerents to end the hostilities and condemning attacks on civilians. However, Beijing has a long history of supporting Palestine. It recognized the Palestine Liberation Organization in 1964 and Palestinian sovereignty in 1988, and later established full diplomatic relations with the Palestinian Authority in 1989.
During his visit to Saudi Arabia in 2022, Chinese President Xi Jinping called the fact that the global community still largely does not recognize Palestine as a country a “historical injustice”, and said China will support the establishment of a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.
ExomatrixTV
31st October 2023, 19:58
"We are getting closer to World War 3, Israel Will Be Wiped Out!" - Scott Ritter's Last WARNING:
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 21:39
https://x.com/dana916/status/1719464694799307113
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 21:43
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Israeli army official admits strike on the Jabalia refugee camp was intentional:
- This is the tragedy of war, I mean as you know we have been telling them for days to move south.
- So you knew there were civilians there, you knew there were refugees. But you decided to still drop a bomb on that refugee camp attempting to kill one Hamas commander...
- We are doing everything we can to minimise, sadly they are hiding within the civilian population...
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1719456769028825355
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 21:48
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❗️🇮🇱🇵🇸 Aggravation in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict zone
What is known by the end of October 31, 2023
Over the past few days, units of the Israel Defense Forces, with the support of armored vehicles and aircraft, have been able to make little progress in the Gaza Strip. From the north, Israeli troops are advancing in the direction of Beit Lahia and Beit Hanoun, as well as along the coast. South of Gaza, the Israelis reached the Salah ad Din highway.
The Israeli leadership is trying to present the promotion as an undoubted success. It is noteworthy that the IDF reported the death of two fighters and two more wounded, while announcing the elimination of 300 militants. Hamas reported the destruction of 22 armored vehicles that entered the enclave.
In addition, footage of the consequences of an Israeli air strike on a residential area in Jabaliya, one of the largest refugee camps in the Gaza Strip, was actively circulated today. According to the local Ministry of Health, more than 400 civilians were injured or killed, and clearing of the rubble is currently ongoing. The IDF said that as a result of this strike, one of the Hamas commanders, Ibrahim Biari, was eliminated, while the deaths of civilians were explained by the “tragedy of war.”
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https://x.com/dana916/status/1719438713384509574
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The Zionist occupation has razed Jabalia refugee camp's most populated neighborhood using 6 one-ton American highly destructive bombs. The neighborhood, consisting of 20 residential buildings, was razed to the ground with hundreds of people underneath the rubble, martyred and wounded.
The regimes of ''israel'' and ''United States of America'' are wiping out entire neighborhoods now. Jabalya refugee camp is 1.4 square km with around 60,000 citizens residing inside of it. Most of the buildings were just mere shacks.
Countless innocent men, women, children, the youth and the elderly have been brutally martyred. Videos emerge of a baby being taken out of the womb of its mother as well as people, dead and crushed under the rubble and limbs everywhere.
Anyone supporting the Jewish enterprise of Israel is complicit in its crimes against humanity, its genocidal actions against the Palestinians and in spreading corruption worldwide.
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 22:00
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IRGC Quds Force chief ‘on the ground’ in Lebanon: Report
The Quds Force chief has maintained a constant presence in Lebanon, and is coordinating with Hezbollah on the southern front against Israel
The commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ (IRGC) elite Quds Force, Esmail Qaani, is “on the ground” in Lebanon and has been coordinating with Hezbollah, informed sources told UK-based outlet, Amwaj Media.
According to the sources, Qaani arrived in Lebanon one day after the start of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood on 7 October.
They added that he left Lebanon for meetings between 16 and 20 October and has “since maintained a constant presence” in the country, where the “focus of his mission … is to help coordinate a possible broader confrontation with Israel.”
Following his return to Lebanon, Qaani met with the leaders of Hezbollah and the Palestinian factions based in Lebanon, “conveying messages from Iran’s Supreme Leader.”
However, Amwaj Media cites a senior security official as saying that Hezbollah Secretary-General, Hassan Nasrallah, is the one “really calling the shots.”
Last week, Hezbollah MP Hassan Fadlallah confirmed that Nasrallah is “actively monitoring” and supervising the southern Lebanese front against Israel.
“While the [Joint Operations Room of the Resistance Axis] is nominally led by the Quds Force, Nasrallah appears to be in charge of what may come next on the border between Israel and Lebanon,” Amwaj Media writes.
During the 2006 war between Hezbollah and Israel, former Quds Force chief Qassem Soleimani was on the ground with Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon.
Since 7 October and the launch of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, Hezbollah has launched daily attacks on Israeli military sites, outposts, and surveillance towers. Dozens of Israeli soldiers have been killed or wounded, and at least 15 Merkava tanks destroyed.
Hezbollah’s attacks are being carried out in solidarity with the Palestinian resistance. According to The Cradle’s Hasan Illaik, these attacks have succeeded in essentially wiping out much of the surveillance equipment Israel has amassed on the Lebanese border over the years.
The Lebanese resistance has documented these attacks with videos that they are periodically releasing on their media page.
The latest attack was launched at noon on 31 October.
“At (12:22) noon on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, after careful monitoring of the occupation forces on the border by the Mujahideen of the Islamic Resistance, an ambush was laid for an Israeli force positioned on Al-Khazzan Hill in the vicinity of the Al-Asi site,” a Hezbollah statement said on Tuesday.
The fighters targeted the force “with guided missiles, which led to direct hits and all of its members being killed or wounded.”
After Israel announced expanding limited ground incursions into Gaza last week, the army is now attempting to advance deeper into the besieged strip, engaging in fierce clashes with the Palestinian resistance.
Many are concerned, in line with what analysts have said, that a full Israeli ground invasion will trigger direct involvement in the war by the Axis of Resistance. This would see Hezbollah fully and officially open up the southern front against Israel and would see involvement from several other factions and players, including Iran.
Nasrallah is set to give a heavily anticipated speech on 3 November.
Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 22:07
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 22:14
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 22:19
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gnostic9
31st October 2023, 22:23
Max Igan video on Israel/Hamas with an update on Acapulco.
Warning.. there is an IDF execution of Palestinian prisoners clip in the video.
Love peace and joy to all!
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 22:38
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 22:42
https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1719484213005562304
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https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/exclusive:-sanaa-says-many-options-on-table-if-israel-us-blu
Exclusive: US threatened Sanaa, received ballistic response
The United States threatened Yemen through Oman, a mediator between the two nations, which led the Yemeni Armed Forces to launch missiles at "Israel", Ansar Allah politburo member Mohammad Al-Bukhaiti said on Tuesday.
Despite the US threats, Yemeni leader Abdul-Malik Al-Houthi ordered that missiles be launched at "Israel" following the ground aggression on Gaza, Al-Bukhaiti told Al Mayadeen.
The Yemeni Armed Forces launched a large barrage of ballistic missiles and drones toward the occupied Palestinian territories, he said.
"The Israeli enemy admitted to having intercepted one missile but covered up for the remaining missiles," he added. "The Americans and the Israelis admitted to having intercepted one Yemeni missile; so where is the remainder of the missiles?"
The United States, he asserted, was an accomplice in the aggression on Gaza, and it is crossing the red lines set by Yemen.
Sanaa "achieved national unity by attacking Israel," he said, making the revelation that some parties that were at war with Ansar Allah pledged to fight alongside it in any confrontation with the Israeli occupation.
Any losses that are to be suffered in the future during any war with "Israel" cannot be compared to the wars on the internal front that the United States has long been behind.
UAE behind terror on Gazxa
Regarding the options Yemen has, Al-Bukhaiti underlined that Yemen has numerous choices should the United States or "Israel" commit any imprudent acts against Yemen. "We are currently targeting the Zionist entity, and if the Americans seek to escalate, we are prepared."
He emphasized that the focus should be on the Axis of Resistance and the Arab peoples, not on Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Especially since Sanaa attempted to communicate with the UAE and Saudi Arabia to lift the blockade on Yemen in support of Gaza, but both countries rejected the proposal.
Al-Bukhaiti revealed that Sanaa possesses confirmed information indicating the UAE's involvement in the strikes on Gaza.
He also reported comprehensive coordination among the leaders of the Axis of Resistance, calling on the masses to prepare for confrontation regardless of any potential decisions.
In an interview with Al Mayadeen, the Prime Minister of the interim government in Sanaa, Abdulaziz Bin Habtoor, affirmed that Hamas was "an integral part of the Palestinian people," emphasizing that "it cannot be uprooted, along with the resistance, because they are part of the general and fundamental belief held dearly by the Arab people in Palestine."
Bin Habtoor added that the land occupied by "Israel" "can only be reclaimed through the resistance; through words, actions, and every available means."
Bin Habtoor affirmed Sanaa's "unconditional solidarity with our people in Gaza, all of Palestine, southern Lebanon, and the Golan Heights, and in every inch of Arab land."
He also emphasized that Yemen is "a part of the Axis of Resistance" that extends from Tehran, Baghdad, Damascus, Beirut, and Gaza to Sanaa, adding that nothing can hinder Yemeni resistance despite the nation being at a geographical disadvantage.
During an event organized by the human rights ministry in solidarity with Gaza, the Prime Minister of the interim government in Sanaa praised the Palestinian resistance, adding that "Jihad will continue as long as there is resistance".
Addressing the Arab regimes, Bin Habtoor said they were "either fearful, in deep slumber, or have sold the entire Palestinian cause and joined the normalization trend."
Yemen participates in war on 'Israel'
Earlier today, it was reported that a drone coming from the direction of the Red Sea infiltrated the "Eilat" settlement before being intercepted by the Israeli occupation, according to Israeli media reports.
A number of Israeli news agencies estimated that the UAV was launched from Yemen, stating that this "is the most logical assumption."
News about missile and drone launches from Yemen toward the occupation entity has been recurring in the past two weeks.
The operations come in light of paramount solidarity with the Palestinian people from Yemen, with the support seeing Sanaa seeking to retaliate against the Israeli occupation for its ongoing crimes and massacres against the civilians in Gaza.
Most recently, Israeli outlets reported that a ballistic missile launched from Yemen at Monday dawn was intercepted by the US Navy in the northern Red Sea. Additionally, the Israeli Air Force stated a few days ago that it intercepted Yemeni drones over the Red Sea, claiming that they were launched from Yemen "potentially" toward “Israel".
Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 22:50
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 23:14
https://x.com/KawsachunNews/status/1719455846663381087
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https://x.com/KawsachunNews/status/1719443868742029680
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Patient
31st October 2023, 23:17
Earlier in October Egypt (edited: :originally I said Turkey :) ) stated that it was not going to open it's border to Palestinians fleeing south.
Has this changed?
Where are all of the people supposed to go? And once they go far enough south, what then?
It seems to me that they keep pushing the people into a corner then inevitably those people will have no choice but to push back.
Is that the plan? Where/what is the plan to help those who are not a part of the Hamas terrorist group?
Or has Israel lumped them all together?
Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 23:29
Text:
Israeli Rabbis say it is ok to BOMB Al-Shifa Hospital
Rabbis are assuring Israel’s leaders that such a war crime would be OK by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Here’s what they say about the Shifa hospital:
It is necessary to clarify, that also when the enemy hides behind a “human shield”, as with the information about the terrorist headquarters at the Shifa hospital in Gaza – there is no halachic [Jewish religious law] or moral prohibition, nor a legal one, for bombing the enemy after sufficient warning. And if under such action innocent blood will be spilled, the guilt will be solely on the heads of the cruel [Hamas] murderers and their supporters.
*Israel previously claimed that Hamas headquarters were located beneath Al-Shifa hospital where over 10,000 Palestinians are sheltering.
Israel is a sick, depraved, and distorted Judeo-fascist society.
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1719448954998595952
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Satori
31st October 2023, 23:29
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719429251215008045
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719424079860572438
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719435169474424998
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719438222323851683
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719444127392166000
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This slaughter of innocents is totally wrong and completely unacceptable. It must end now.
Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 23:51
https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719319945660551485
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https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719315070461587565
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https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719340991910461787
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https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719405412301029555
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Ravenlocke
31st October 2023, 23:58
https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1719502226966679835
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Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 00:17
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719025745626910862
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Satori
1st November 2023, 00:39
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719025745626910862
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Assuming the subtitles are accurate, this guy is a pathological, satanic madman. I dare say, that if anyone should be destroyed, it’s him and “people” like him.
Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 01:16
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719025745626910862
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Assuming the subtitles are accurate, this guy is a pathological, satanic madman. I dare say, that if anyone should be destroyed, it’s him and “people” like him.
Yes I know Italian and I listened to what he said in Italian.
shaberon
1st November 2023, 02:46
I perhaps am misunderstanding "Yemen" and "war".
Yahya Saria (https://southfront.press/yemen-is-launching-military-operation-against-israel/) is Ansar Allah.
Not calling them "Houthi rebels" is equivalent to saying that they are the legitimate government of Yemen.
Israel claims to have repelled one projectile with this thing:
https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Arrow-3-1-768x776.jpg
which does not answer for "three waves" asserted to be launched at them.
It is similar to the United States; South Yemen would rather secede, than take over the current Yemen. Unlike South Sudan or Donbass, I am not aware of this being "recognized" by anyone, although de facto, it must be close to the state of affairs. Hard to say, since we didn't pay that much attention to Saud bombing Yemeni children and so forth, whereas Israel racks up fifty pages in under a month.
shaberon
1st November 2023, 03:07
Yes I know Italian and I listened to what he said in Italian.
Sounds like a match for what I understand to be an incredibly fascist Italian government.
None of the Italians that I have personally known would have anything to do with that. A few acquaintances, and I once married a Sicilian Catholic, and the family did not believe what the Pope said, either.
Don't you appreciate the honesty? We spent the 1900s with all this time-delayed secrecy, like what happened to the U. S. S. Liberty...now there is open, everyday confession from almost everyone who might be placed under suspicion. Talk about a "control" factor.
Dennis Leahy
1st November 2023, 04:03
Bringing back into consciousness that there is a ZERO percent chance that the Mossad and Israeli intelligence failed on October 7th. The Mossad and Israel orchestrated the event, and it is the excuse to wipe out or permanently displace the prisoners of Gaza and annex the land, develop the land, and call it Israel. Israel would love to get Iran bombed and Syria finished off as well, and that would be a bonus for them, but this is primarily Operation Steal Gaza. No one in the world can or will stop Israel from their objective to remove or kill all Palestinians in Gaza and annex all of (former) Gaza. Three steps forward, one step back. The West Bank will be targeted afterwards - it might be 10 years, but they will wipe Palestine off the map, and they know that no one - especially the Zionist Christians in power in the USA, Inc. - will stop them.
Chuck
1st November 2023, 06:30
Adding another twist...
The Ben Gurion canal has been put forward many times in the past to by-pass the Suez and the $10 billion per year in revenue for Egypt that it generates. Costs for its construction is estimated between $20-60 Billion dollars. Is the destruction of Gaza and displacing a million Palestinians more than just vengeful retribution?
https://www.turkiyenewspaper.com/politics/16892
shaberon
1st November 2023, 06:58
Operation Obliterate Gaza is junior league to Operation Remove Zion.
This afternoon was definitely Houthis (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1958178):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9yKKfcXYAAfZeN?format=jpg&name=small
Mohammad Al-Bukhaiti, member of the Ansarullah Political Bureau, said that “Sayyed Abdul-Malik Al-Houthi ordered the launching of missiles after the Israeli ground aggression on Gaza and after the American threats to Yemen.”
In a televised interview on Tuesday evening , Al-Bukhaiti revealed that “the United States conveyed threats to Yemen, and the armed forces only responded by firing guided missiles.”
“Washington sent its threat via the Omani mediator, but Sayyed Al-Houthi reiterated that Yemen would step in whenever the Israelis attacked on land in Gaza”, he added.
Commenting on the Ansar Allah movement’s missile-launching operation in Yemen, Al-Bukhaiti explained: “A large number of ballistic missiles and drones were used in the operation. The Israeli enemy admitted to shooting down one missile while keeping the details of the remainders secret.”
He concluded, wondering: “The Americans and Israelis admitted to intercepting one Yemeni missile…so where are the rest of the missiles?”
The Gazans aren't going anywhere. The Israelis are:
https://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2023/10/manar-09990320016987894074-1024x724.jpg
65,000 displaced from only one border prowled by amateurs. Twenty-eight kibbutzes banished. See any valiance in those private persons? I know at least five of them could uplift a slingshot, but their livers were eaten in the days of Sisyphus.
After being forced to witness this d bag's Zio piglets in the scariest Halloween costumes ever:
https://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2023/11/manar-06987270016988018088.jpg
Several people sat on Tuesday, October 31, in silence behind US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, raising their hands smeared with red paint to symbolize the murderous situation in Gaza.
Then, some of them started standing up from time to time to chant, “Stop shooting now.” One protester shouted, “Save the children of Gaza” and “Shame on you all,” while another demonstrator chose to wear a jacket that said, “Stop funding genocide.” Therefore, Blinken was forced to stop speaking many times before the demonstrators got kicked out of the hall by police.
Why not take your Ukrainians to the trenches, weasel.
As the saying goes "I will die on my feet before I live on my knees".
Here is a tune for poor people who find themselves fighting air forces. Udo is playing this at no less than 71 years of age and probably the only one I can think of who is able to bring in his son as the drummer.
The Battle Understood
suSxXYCRJ9A
Fears turns into anger
Scars turn into blood
Losing makes you stronger
The battle understood
A bitter sweet dilemma
A game that claims it all
Don′t turn away and hide your weakness
Before the counters fall
Show your cards, time for showdown
Let the nightmare start
Let it rain, from the sky
Let the nightmare start
The sin is to consider
Don't estimate your plight
Just play your hand, forget the madness
You have the might to strike
Show your cards, time for showdown
Let the nightmare start
Let it rain, from the sky
Let the nightmare start
Fears turns into anger
Scars turn into blood
Losing makes you stronger
The battle understood
Don′t try to stop the healing
You need to get it right
How does it feel, to be the winner?
The victor of the night
Show your cards, time for showdown
Let the nightmare start
Let it rain, from the sky
Let the nightmare start
Fears turns into anger
Scars turn into blood
Losing makes you stronger
The battle understood
With a conscience shining bright
Endless through the night
Hear me crying out in vain
Try to hide that strain
Fears turns into anger
Scars turn into blood
Losing makes you stronger
The battle understood
Fears turns into anger
Scars turn into blood
Losing makes you stronger
The battle understood
In the most complicated history ever, Udo picked up Peter Baltes who has been in Accept since 1976. Here is a Russian fan video by Saracen for Accept with an American singer.
No One's Master
PdvFrRGth54
The media's controlling the masses
Stoking our anger and fear
Further dividing the classes
Serving the richest's careers
Their mantra is lies and deception
When honesty's all that I crave
I decline and there'll be no exceptions
I am no one's master
No one's slave
No one's slave
Living in fear ain't worth living
Wasting your life is the crime
The reaper will be unforgiving
Wake up, while you're still in your prime
The guide of my life is my conscience
My way is the path that I pave
I treat, how I want to be treated
I am no one's master
No one's slave
No one's slave
I won't rule
I won't bow
I won't sink my eyes to the ground
I won't steal
I won't kneel
I won't bend my knee to the crowned
I pledge an oath to myself and to life
I'm not afraid of the sword or the knife
The guide of my life is my conscience
My way is the path that I pave
Equality's all that I'm after
I am no one's master
No one's slave
No one's slave
No one's master
I am no one's
No one's slave
Ewan
1st November 2023, 09:54
....sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas,....
That's news to me - Iran controls Hamas, is this common knowledge beyond my own awareness?
Rizotto
1st November 2023, 11:09
EMERALDS LATEST!!! Had to share it.
Dear America: We've Got Our Own War To Win
Israel and Ukraine are just distractions from the great tyranny at home
EMERALD ROBINSON
OCT 31
Nothing in the swamp is a coincidence.
The Biden regime has been staring at a dismal fate just twelve months out from the 2024 election. There were impeachment charges in the House to face, and terrible approval polls to digest — even among Democrats. Things were so bad that the mysterious death of Barack Obama’s personal chef was getting attention.
It was a terrible news cycle.
Something had to change.
So the Biden regime sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas, for a “little war” in Israel as a distraction. Isn't it obvious?
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In fact, the United States “is currently funding virtually every side of every conflict in the Middle East” according to Trump advisor Stephen Miller.
Who can doubt that dismal truth?
Now wonder it seems so hard to keep Hamas’ barbaric raid from becoming the Last Great War. Since Washington has become the foreign-aid money-laundering capital of the world, our politicians seem to be taking all sides at once.
The Biden regime funnels dark money to Iran and military aid packages to Israel and humanitarian relief to Gaza — all at the same time.
Our strategy is to foment pure chaos.
We seem to be sleep-walking toward Armageddon — which people tend to forget is not only a metaphor but a place.
It’s the last battle on the plains of Megiddo in Israel.
Of course, America’s corporate media has faithfully complied with Obama-Biden’s “wag the dog” strategy. All that you have to do is compare the treatment of Ukraine to Israel to see the plan. Nearly 500,000 people have died in the Ukraine war — but the corporate media in America wouldn’t let you see three minutes of war footage in the last two years. Compare that total media blackout to the 24/7 coverage that Americans have been fed in the last few weeks of paragliding Muslim jihadists.
The CIA lets you see what it wants you to see.
All of this war coverage has had its desired effect. It's simply astonishing to see the number of Americans who can't stop talking about the Hamas invasion of Israel while 8 million illegal aliens swarm across their own border.
Isn’t it obvious? You are being diverted by the corporate media to care about a war that is not your problem.
Consider your present circumstances: your elections are rigged. An illegal regime, using a dementia patient who’s been bribed by China as its figurehead, just forced you to take a dangerous and untested shot — which has already killed many people. Your secret police are now arresting parents at school board meetings and infiltrating Christian churches openly. Your nation is being invaded at its border by millions of illegal aliens — and that invasion is taking place with the assistance of the Department of Homeland Security.
That's why America’s mass media has you worried about Gaza.
Look how easily your attention was diverted. Look how easy it was to make you dismiss your own interests. Look how quickly you forgot your own nation.
You might want to take a break from being a fool this time.
My advice to you is quite simple: stop obeying your television. You must retake your attention and your focus from the latest Current Thing.
Don't be distracted by the war in Israel.
Don't be distracted by the war in Ukraine.
You have your own war to win.
That war is at home.
The tyrants you must overthrow are right here in America.
I Need Your Help!
I was banned from Twitter in 2021 since I warned you about the dangerous COVID vaccines. Then left-wing hate groups targeted me in Washington Post articles to keep me banned on social media altogether. Now Smartmatic and Dominion want to search through my emails and telephone records.
It’s very expensive to prepare for litigation, and discovery, in these massive lawsuits brought by the voting machine companies. (Fox News paid out almost $800 million just last year.) They try to bankrupt and silence conservative journalists by dragging them through court proceedings for years.
Independent and fearless journalists need your support like never before.
I need your support like never before.
If we are going to survive the current regime then we must stand together.
I’ve got your back. Do you have mine?
Thank you for this powerful piece. Is there a link? Needs to be shared!
SilentFeathers
1st November 2023, 11:22
I had a very vivid dream last night of a nuke going off in the middle east. In the dream it appeared to be Iran that was nuked.
This dream was either an omen for things to come or a sign I need to step away from this thread for a while!
Bill Ryan
1st November 2023, 11:42
....sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas,....
That's news to me - Iran controls Hamas, is this common knowledge beyond my own awareness?No, this is all US neocon propaganda. Qatar has always backed and funded Hamas far more than Iran, yet no-one's threatening war against Qatar! :)
Iran has been on the US warmongering hit list for years now, and this is both their excuse and maybe their last opportunity — and, some might argue, might have been the US-Israeli engineered goal all along.
Rizotto
1st November 2023, 12:28
Scott Ritter is emphatic that Israel's war on Gaza means it's the end of zionist Isreal. The world has turned against it.
Scott Ritter, fmr UN Weapons Inspector: Dangers to the US of Israeli invasions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFyRoGHWlnE
Could well be the end of USA too. But the biggest issue is, will the 'world' allow Isreal to wipe out Gazans to the last one? Muslim countries have been threatening for several days now to intervene against Isreal. My own take is that the Isreal-USA axis timed this genocidal war to counter the BRICS success, which they view as one of their major threat to their goal of world control. Turkey, Syria, Iran, Russia joining this conflict might jeopardize the stability required for economic alliances. On the other hand, the USA-Isreal genocidal madness might convince even more countries to distance themselves from that axis of evil, and move towards saner alliances like the BRICS.
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A short and clear message from Noam Chomsky:
Noam Chomsky refutes Israel's claims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbWoWSRDCIk
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"We bring you the voices of Jewish Voice for Peace and their allies who shut down the main terminal of Grand Central Station during rush hour Friday in one of New York's largest acts of civil disobedience in 20 years to demand a ceasefire in Gaza. The multiracial, intergenerational movement says about 400 people were arrested, including rabbis, famous actors and elected officials from the New York State Assembly and Senate and the City Council."
"Not in Our Name": 400 Arrested at Jewish-Led Sit-in at NYC's Grand Central Demanding Gaza Ceasefire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I7W99OVcjo
Tintin
1st November 2023, 12:47
This may resonate with many here if it hasn't already been suggested :flower:
From Clif High via Twitter/X - at least he's offering solutions, in his own inimitable style....
The Big Swede is correct.
Jordan Peterson's ARC project will be destroyed.
With 1500 attendees, we can be sure that the WEF has already infiltrated. This is the way of the organization. Create one & you create an easy target for the mother WEFfers.
This is why the time of organized social movements is over. Now is the time of the Self Organizing Collective Action.
What happens is that people will naturally gravitate to a good idea on their own. They will tell their frenz & it will spread. If the idea is good, the universe will see it grows.
In this way, there is no organization to be infiltrated & to 'go bad' by dirty deeds.
If the idea is good, it rules.
The way it will be visible is through individual acts of personal bravery which will be compelling enough to illicit duplication.
As an example, some woman decides she is too torn, too emotional over the destruction of Gaza & the genocide of the Palestinians, so she just says "**** it all" and shaves her head. She then takes the hair & mails it to the Israeli embassy in her country with a note reminding them that they replicate the evil done to them.
In this day, she of course, has to document it with videos. So she invents a slogan.
"I suffer with Palestine". Then she makes a vid of her shaving her hair off, or maybe convinces a friend to do it for her. Then maybe they join in too.
No organization, but suddenly there are videos of 'I suffer with Palestine" popping up all over & the mail is carrying envelopes of hair to Israelis all over the planet.
Then she gets interviewed. Just the way it is these days.
Yada yada yada, and her story comes out & is caught up in a collective frenzy about "I too suffer with palestine".
Self organizing collective of commonly focused minds.
No org. No funding. No points of corruption.
We will see the failure of Jordan's ARC as we watch the SOCs rise.
The [KM] can't do **** vs SOC.
Tintin
1st November 2023, 13:00
....sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas,....
That's news to me - Iran controls Hamas, is this common knowledge beyond my own awareness?
My understanding is that Hamas (as much an ideology as it is an organisation) is funded by Qatar, and is an entity that has been enabled by Israel. That's pretty much a nailed on fact (sources: WikiLeaks and Mehdi Hasan, to name only two) :flower:
Lunesoleil
1st November 2023, 13:29
1719642822079352881
To Dublin and Ireland 🙏🏼
wegge
1st November 2023, 13:34
EMERALDS LATEST!!! Had to share it.
Dear America: We've Got Our Own War To Win
Israel and Ukraine are just distractions from the great tyranny at home
EMERALD ROBINSON
OCT 31
Nothing in the swamp is a coincidence.
The Biden regime has been staring at a dismal fate just twelve months out from the 2024 election. There were impeachment charges in the House to face, and terrible approval polls to digest — even among Democrats. Things were so bad that the mysterious death of Barack Obama’s personal chef was getting attention.
It was a terrible news cycle.
Something had to change.
So the Biden regime sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas, for a “little war” in Israel as a distraction. Isn't it obvious?
Image
In fact, the United States “is currently funding virtually every side of every conflict in the Middle East” according to Trump advisor Stephen Miller.
Who can doubt that dismal truth?
Now wonder it seems so hard to keep Hamas’ barbaric raid from becoming the Last Great War. Since Washington has become the foreign-aid money-laundering capital of the world, our politicians seem to be taking all sides at once.
The Biden regime funnels dark money to Iran and military aid packages to Israel and humanitarian relief to Gaza — all at the same time.
Our strategy is to foment pure chaos.
We seem to be sleep-walking toward Armageddon — which people tend to forget is not only a metaphor but a place.
It’s the last battle on the plains of Megiddo in Israel.
Of course, America’s corporate media has faithfully complied with Obama-Biden’s “wag the dog” strategy. All that you have to do is compare the treatment of Ukraine to Israel to see the plan. Nearly 500,000 people have died in the Ukraine war — but the corporate media in America wouldn’t let you see three minutes of war footage in the last two years. Compare that total media blackout to the 24/7 coverage that Americans have been fed in the last few weeks of paragliding Muslim jihadists.
The CIA lets you see what it wants you to see.
All of this war coverage has had its desired effect. It's simply astonishing to see the number of Americans who can't stop talking about the Hamas invasion of Israel while 8 million illegal aliens swarm across their own border.
Isn’t it obvious? You are being diverted by the corporate media to care about a war that is not your problem.
Consider your present circumstances: your elections are rigged. An illegal regime, using a dementia patient who’s been bribed by China as its figurehead, just forced you to take a dangerous and untested shot — which has already killed many people. Your secret police are now arresting parents at school board meetings and infiltrating Christian churches openly. Your nation is being invaded at its border by millions of illegal aliens — and that invasion is taking place with the assistance of the Department of Homeland Security.
That's why America’s mass media has you worried about Gaza.
Look how easily your attention was diverted. Look how easy it was to make you dismiss your own interests. Look how quickly you forgot your own nation.
You might want to take a break from being a fool this time.
My advice to you is quite simple: stop obeying your television. You must retake your attention and your focus from the latest Current Thing.
Don't be distracted by the war in Israel.
Don't be distracted by the war in Ukraine.
You have your own war to win.
That war is at home.
The tyrants you must overthrow are right here in America.
I Need Your Help!
I was banned from Twitter in 2021 since I warned you about the dangerous COVID vaccines. Then left-wing hate groups targeted me in Washington Post articles to keep me banned on social media altogether. Now Smartmatic and Dominion want to search through my emails and telephone records.
It’s very expensive to prepare for litigation, and discovery, in these massive lawsuits brought by the voting machine companies. (Fox News paid out almost $800 million just last year.) They try to bankrupt and silence conservative journalists by dragging them through court proceedings for years.
Independent and fearless journalists need your support like never before.
I need your support like never before.
If we are going to survive the current regime then we must stand together.
I’ve got your back. Do you have mine?
Thank you for this powerful piece. Is there a link? Needs to be shared!
At least in Germany there is now a powerful shift in people's perception of the many migrants here and it's openly said by politicians (maybe tactics) and the common people that we'd prefer if most of them would go /be kicked out. Some kind of energetic veil has been lifted it seems.
shaberon
1st November 2023, 13:37
Let's introduce Al Shabaka (https://al-shabaka.org/focuses/grounding-the-current-moment-an-al-shabaka-syllabus/)--a Palestinian organization with a library on Hamas!
That, perhaps, may supply some better explanations than clutching at straws. I didn't look at money, but at least one article explained to me quite well how this is "not the Hamas of 1987".
https://al-shabaka.org/wp-content/themes/al-shabaka/lib/images/logo.png
The Palestinian Policy Network was launched in April 2010 as the first and only independent, transnational Palestinian think tank. We bring together over 200 analysts from across the globe to produce critical policy analysis and craft visions for a liberated, self-determined future.
Those are some infos definitely worth looking into, perhaps even a group worth contacting. I mean it is not strictly an aid foundation, but we can't interact with pictures of face paint. They have multiple authors published in Al Jazeera, The New Yorker, Mondoweiss, etc., and one or more people posting from Palestine recently.
Iran and nobody knew nothing pre-meditated on this attack.
This remark is perhaps a bit unusual (https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14020810000476/Hezbllah-Israel-Cllapsed-Afer-Al-Asa-Srm-Will-N-Srvive-Own-Qagmire):
“Their army is in a state of panic,” Safieddine said, adding, “The Zionist forces who are in the North of Palestine record audio files and send them to Lebanon’s Hezbollah and address (Secretary General of Hezbollah) Seyed Hassan Nasrallah and say that we do not intend to confront you and if the war starts, we are with you and we do not intend to clash with you in any way.”
Bolivia:
https://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2023/11/manar-09244480016988311336-1024x680.jpg
and:
Chile, which has the largest Palestinian population outside the Arab world, also said Tuesday it was recalling its ambassador to the Zionist entity in protest against Israeli “unacceptable violations of international humanitarian law.”
Now for the Gipper.
American Zionism is not the same as British Zionism.
Blackstone Memorial 1891 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone_Memorial)--ignored by Presidents Harrison and T. Roosevelt.
Guess who approved it?
Mr. Federal Reserve, Woodrow "Rubber Stamp" Wilson.
First version signed by:
...431 prominent citizens from those cities: financiers John D. Rockefeller and J. P. Morgan, future President William McKinley, and Chief Justice Melville Fuller; many members of Congress; the editors of all major newspapers in those five cities, including the still-extant The Boston Globe, The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, The Philadelphia Inquirer, and The Washington Post; and a long list of university and seminary presidents, mayors, and leading businessmen.
The State Department "lost" it!
Doesn't matter as the Chicago Tribune printed it.
But we were updated a link only yesterday--here is the whole thing (https://www.lifeinmessiah.org/blackstone-memorial). Go through it and you also find this signatory:
E. House
sound familiar?
One problem with this first plan was that it was "too international"--France and Italy would have had a hand in it. Secondly those presidents were not very religious. That is all that is found here. Money? They expected the Jews to take on the debts of the Ottoman Empire! Their main role was to be that very farming that they did not generally do anywhere.
It is simply owed to them after 1700 years due to belief.
This is still true, in fact, the violence is part and parcel of it.
Though part of the same movement, British Zionism saw itself as the center of the world.
Oh? Yes, it was already a "thing", nobody had to start a petition.
The second version was not presented publicly to Wilson--from a report (http://www.jewish-american-society-for-historic-preservation.org/images/Brandeis_Blackstone_article.pdf) about it:
Recently, a major history of the life of Louis Brandeis has been published. The work has received
repeated accolades by media and other academics. There is not one word about Brandeis and
Blackstone in the book. Attending a lecture about the book and Justice Brandeis in Washington, D.C.
by the author, I asked about Reverend Blackstone during the question and answer session. The
moment the name Blackstone came up, I was cut off by the lecturer. He responded curtly, that was
1891 and had nothing to do with Brandeis. I followed up immediately about Brandeis using
Blackstone to manipulate Wilson for Zionism. The Professor disparaged Wilson’s faith as a cynical
public response and confirmed again that Blackstone was of no import to the audience’s snickers.
Brandeis--Bohemian Jew. Wilson--Presbyterian. For the author:
The Blackstone’s were the first white settlers of Boston.
As you can see this is mostly Chicago and the northeast. Just not the Catholics.
Contemporary historians have almost entirely ignored, forgotten or even deliberately marginalized
Blackstone’s crucial role in Zionist and American history. Anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian sources
actively remember him but with vitriol. Why?
They believed:
America was the bastion of faith in a better tomorrow but America also was not willing to become the
New Zion for the world’s millions of Jews.
which is not true, since over a million came, and hardly any went to Palestine.
Not even the old established, dominant, assimilated
American German Jews wanted the hordes of Russian Jews, whom many of them distained, flooding
onto American shores. They feared it could kindle American anti-Semitism and threaten their own hard
won acceptance and toleration.
A few more excerpts:
Unable to secure any supportive information from the State Department, Brandeis on his own,
independently spent hours researching secondary and news media sources for information on the
Blackstone Memorial. Amongst the Brandeis papers are 47 pages of personal hand written and
researched documents confirming Brandeis’ perception of the importance of the Blackstone Memorial.
That Brandeis would devote so much time and personal effort to researching and understanding the
Blackstone Memorial cannot be understated.
“Historians of our present theme – how Woodrow Wilson was won to the Zionist cause – occupy
themselves almost entirely with the story of the comings and goings of the diplomats and the
courtiers….. Yet there is another element in this story which, though almost totally ignored by most
of the historians, was taken with the greatest of seriousness by the Zionist principals at the time –
and that is Wilson’s religious motivation. Indeed, both Louis Brandeis and Stephen Wise later said,
for record, that what guaranteed the victory for the Zionists was not their greater skill in playing the
political and diplomatic game, but their success in appealing to Woodrow Wilson’s biblically based
Christian faith.”
On October 16 the British intelligence chief in New York wired London: ''Colonel House put the formula
before the President who approves of it but asks that no mention of his approval shall be made when
His Majesty's Government makes formula public, as he had arranged the American Jews shall then ask
him for approval, which he will publicly give here."
Reverend Blackstone spent 57
years of his life writing, speaking, preaching and encouraging Zionism. He spoke out actively and
aggressively against anti-Semitism focusing in particular on the hatred spread by Henry Ford in his
advocacy for the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Reverend Blackstone used Brandeis and the Memorial to advance his religious goals.
Reverend Blackstone and the Blackstone Memorial of 1891 and 1916 are almost forgotten today.
Historians of American Zionism and of Louis Brandeis almost never mention Blackstone.
Almost everything in there is very predictable.
Along with the English Puritans, we may thank the first family of Boston.
Here is a prior post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1510225&viewfull=1#post1510225) involving Boston Puritanism, kind of edgy, with a mistake I made about one of the most elegant coins ever designed.
Anyway, that is the basic American and British belief, that if this kills Palestinians, Israelis, or anyone else that sets foot in there, it's all good. And it is enshrined in our national symbols for Thanksgiving.
shaberon
1st November 2023, 13:59
....sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas,....
That's news to me - Iran controls Hamas, is this common knowledge beyond my own awareness?
Negative.
One could even re-cite the article by removing most of it:
....sent $6 billion to Iran to pay its proxy terror group, Hamas,....
The CIA lets you see what it wants you to see.
Tintin
1st November 2023, 14:07
This is not the primary thread on which to share this most interesting piece by Bernhard Guenther but as good a place as any to help us understand the crackpot-crazy swirling around us everywhere, and some of the entities in the midst of this unfolding calamity: it certainly limns the source and cause of this current etiological state in which we find ourselves embroiled :flower:
I'm not posting it in full, as there's a shortage of time for me right now in trying to do so.
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Organic Portals – Soulless Humans
By Bernhard Guenther, April 18th, 2011
Over the years, I’ve seen how this topic has been easily misunderstood by people who tend to distort the following information to blame and demonize others (mainly painting all Organic Portals as “evil” or equating them with psychopaths, which is not always the case) and going around labeling all kinds people as “Organic Portals.”
The danger of generalizations and premature labeling is addressed in this essay.
EVERYONE is on the level of the Organic Portal [and can be easily used by occult hostile forces] until they consciously start to engage in the Great Work to “grow their soul”, i.e., bring the soul to the front: soul embodiment.
[I]
“A considerable percentage of the people we meet on the street are people who are empty inside, that is, they are actually already dead. It is fortunate for us that we do not see and do not know it. If we knew what a number of people are actually dead and what a number of these dead people govern our lives, we should go mad with horror.”
– G.I. Gurdjieff
Rudolf Steiner in 1923:
Dr. Rudolf Steiner: That little girl L.K. in the first grade must have something really very wrong inside. There is not much we can do. Such cases are increasing in which children are born with a human form, but are not really human beings in relation to their highest I; instead, they are filled with beings that do not belong to the human class. Quite a number of people have been born since the nineties without an I, that is, they are not reincarnated, but are human forms filled with a sort of natural demon. There are quite a large number of older people going around who are actually not human beings, but are only natural; they are human beings only in regard to their form. We cannot, however, create a school for demons.
A teacher: How is that possible?
Dr. Rudolf Steiner: Cosmic error is certainly not impossible. The relationships of individuals coming into earthly existence have long been determined. There are also generations in which individuals have no desire to come into earthly existence and be connected with physicality, or immediately leave at the very beginning. In such cases, other beings that are not quite suited step in. This is something that is now quite common, that human beings go around without an I; they are actually not human beings, but have only a human form. They are beings like nature spirits, which we do not recognize as such because they go around in a human form. They are also quite different from human beings in regard to everything spiritual.
The riddle of life is not so simple. When such a being dies, it returns to nature from which it came. The corpse decays, but there is no real dissolution of the etheric body, and the natural being returns to nature. It is also possible that something like an automaton could occur. The entire human organism exists, and it might be possible to automate the brain and develop a kind of pseudomorality.
I do not like to talk about such things since we have often been attacked even without them. Imagine what people would say if they heard that we say there are people who are not human beings. Nevertheless, these are facts. Our culture would not be in such a decline if people felt more strongly that a number of people are going around who, because they are completely ruthless, have become something that is not human, but instead are demons in human form.
– from “Faculty Meetings With Rudolf Steiner Vol. 2”, July 1923
Introduction
These are interesting times. On one hand, there are changes happening on a global scale that can’t really be ignored much longer. On the other hand, the majority of the population seems to live their lives as if everything is just as it always is and always will be, locked in a tunnel vision of personal and material interest.
As long as we keep lying to ourselves based on conditioning, wishful thinking, suppression or denial and believe the lies “out there”, mistaking them for truth, nothing will change. This goes also beyond having a “positive” attitude, where hope can be merely a trap and lie to the self. Believing in lies that are “positive” in appearance (regardless how well-meaning the intent or good-hearted the person) is actually being negative and blocks one’s awareness and spiritual evolution. Being positive can mean acknowledging something negative because it is the truth, seeing it for what it is. If you believe a lie, even if it seems positive and makes you “feel good”, you give away your free will, which has spiritual implications. In these times of transition, it becomes imperative to do seek truth and strive towards objectivity so we don’t take the “wrong” turn into entropy.
The article, of course, continues, here :flower:
Source: Veil of Reality (https://veilofreality.com/2011/04/18/organic-portals-soulless-humans/)
gord
1st November 2023, 14:24
EMERALDS LATEST!!! Had to share it.
Dear America: We've Got Our Own War To Win
Israel and Ukraine are just distractions from the great tyranny at home
EMERALD ROBINSON
OCT 31
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Thank you for this powerful piece. Is there a link? Needs to be shared!
It looks like it came from this substack: https://www.emerald.tv/p/dear-america-weve-got-our-own-war
Tintin
1st November 2023, 14:33
Volker Turk's resignation letter :flower: (insert backbone emoji)
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/2023-10-28_Volker_Turk_UNHRC_New_York_office_resignation_letter_October_28_2023.jpg
Tintin
1st November 2023, 14:40
Expel all Palestinians from Gaza, recommends Israeli gov’t ministry
An Intelligence Ministry document revealed by Local Call and +972 shows how the idea of population transfer to the Sinai is reaching official discussions.
https://www.972mag.com/intelligence-ministry-gaza-population-transfer/
By Yuval Abraham - October 30, 2023
The Israeli Ministry of Intelligence is recommending the forcible and permanent transfer of the Gaza Strip’s 2.2 million Palestinian residents to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, according to an official document revealed in full for the first time by +972’s partner site Local Call yesterday.
The 10-page document, dated Oct. 13, 2023, bears the logo of the Intelligence Ministry — a small governmental body that produces policy research and shares its proposals with intelligence agencies, the army, and other ministries. It assesses three options regarding the future of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip in the framework of the current war, and recommends a full population transfer as its preferred course of action. It also calls on Israel to enlist the international community in support of this endeavor. The document, whose authenticity was confirmed by the ministry, has been translated into English in full here on +972.
The existence of the document does not necessarily indicate that its recommendations are being considered by Israel’s defense establishment. Despite its name, the Intelligence Ministry is not directly responsible for any intelligence body, but rather independently prepares studies and policy papers that are distributed to the Israeli government and security agencies for review, but are not binding. The ministry’s annual budget is NIS 25 million and its influence is considered relatively small. It is currently headed by Gila Gamliel, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud Party.
However, the fact that an Israeli government ministry has prepared such a detailed proposal amid a large-scale military offensive on the Gaza Strip, following Hamas’ deadly assault and massacres in southern Israeli communities on Oct. 7, reflects how the idea of forced population transfer is being raised to the level of official policy discussions. Fears of such plans — which would constitute a serious war crime under international law — have grown in recent weeks, especially after the Israeli army ordered about 1 million Palestinians to evacuate the northern Gaza Strip ahead of escalating bombardment and incremental ground incursions.
The document recommends that Israel act to “evacuate the civilian population to Sinai” during the war; establish tent cities and later more permanent cities in the northern Sinai that will absorb the expelled population; and then create “a sterile zone of several kilometers … within Egypt, and [prevent] the return of the population to activities/residences near the border with Israel.” At the same time, governments around the world, led by the United States, must be mobilized to implement the move.
A source in the Intelligence Ministry confirmed to Local Call/+972 that the document was authentic, that it was distributed to the defense establishment by the ministry’s policy division, and “was not supposed to reach the media.”
article, with links to the translated (from Hebrew) document, continues here: https://www.972mag.com/intelligence-ministry-gaza-population-transfer/
Thanks :thumbsup: The same article, from a different source, was also posted back on October 30th, here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Hamas-a-New-Middle-East-War&p=1583952&viewfull=1#post1583952)
Gwin Ru
1st November 2023, 15:03
[...]
Organic Portals – Soulless Humans
By Bernhard Guenther, April 18th, 2011
Over the years, I’ve seen how this topic has been easily misunderstood by people who tend to distort the following information to blame and demonize others (mainly painting all Organic Portals as “evil” or equating them with psychopaths, which is not always the case) and going around labeling all kinds people as “Organic Portals.”
The danger of generalizations and premature labeling is addressed in this essay.[...]
...the authentic, demon-infested OPs are quite adept at "Projection", i.e. accusing others of doing/being what they themselves do/are... may give one an idea of where that whole "Goyim" concept is all about?
Related:
Ancient Deception In Modern Times and Netanyahu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RYdzXBQj5Q) 1:38:04 (real meaning of the word "Netanyahu")
The Charem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8gPc8K3mn0) 1:06:15 (about Amalek and Amalekite)
ExomatrixTV
1st November 2023, 20:49
“Israel Is 1000 Times WORSE Than Hamas” – Holocaust Survivor Gabor Maté:
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Hungarian-born physician and author Gabor Maté is a Holocaust survivor, and as such offers a uniquely compelling perspective on the current conflict between Israel and Hamas. The state of Israel commits horrific and far worse atrocities against the people of Palestine than Hamas does to Israel, he says, and brings receipts that detail the 70+ years of brutal occupation Israel has subjected the Palestinian people to. Jimmy, along with The Convo Couch host Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger, discusses the unpleasant truths far too many Israel apologists don’t want to hear.
Even WOLF BLITZER Is Shocked By Israeli Atrocities!:
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Longtime CNN host Wolf Blitzer, whose cool name belies his bland, generally emotionless and vacant personality on camera, has always been perfectly happy to go along with whatever bloodthirsty wars the U.S. military industrial complex dreamed up. But even Blitzer was taken aback by Israel’s brazenly horrific recent attack on a Gaza refugee camp that reportedly killed 400 civilians, most of them women and children.
Jimmy, along with The Convo Couch host Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger, discusses whether the Israeli military’s brutality is likely to cause other longtime apologists to ask questions that would have been previously unimaginable.
ExomatrixTV
1st November 2023, 22:14
LEAKED! Israel’s Plan To PURGE Palestinians From Gaza!:
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A verified document from the Israeli Ministry of Intelligence dated October 13 suggests forced displacement of Gaza civilians to Egypt would "yield positive and long term strategic results.” The advisory document envisions a three stage process including the establishment of tent cities in Sinai and opening of humanitarian corridor, followed by construction of cities in northerm Sinai from which Palestinians could not return. Jimmy, along with The Convo Couch host Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger, discusses whether this document outlining the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Gaza is the plan being followed by Israel.
Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 23:09
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“Invest energy in one thing: Erasing all of Gaza from the face of the earth. Either the monsters in Gaza flee to Egypt or get killed. Erase the whole of #Gaza”
Member of Netanyahu's Likud Party and former #Israeli government minister calls for genocide against Palestinians in #Gaza.
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719768666202399034
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#BREAKING| Spokesperson for the Gov't Information Office: The humanitarian aid, that entered #Gaza, mainly consists of water and shroud fabric.
The amount of water that entered in aid is very few that if we distribute it to the nearly 1M displaced Gazans only, each of them will get 50 ml only.
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719761757332209866
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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719850446620168366
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Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 23:19
https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1719851958637346965
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Türkiye builds 20 field hospitals for Gaza residents
According to the Turkish Ministry of Health, hospitals will appear near the Rafah border crossing in Gaza and Al-Arish airport. According to Minister Fahrettin Koca, his department is now working closely with the Palestinian Ministry of Health.
“We planned to send about 40 ambulances and they are ready to go. We sent respirators, ventilators, many small and large generators,” Koca noted in an interview with Yeni Şafak.
Earlier, Turkey sent 20 of its doctors to the Rafah checkpoint, who began helping the wounded residents of Gaza. 90 wounded Palestinians and 450 foreign citizens have already been allowed out of the region, and one of the UN humanitarian mission buses carrying civilians was fired upon by IDF soldiers.
https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1719853864722055428
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Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 23:22
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1719804389794218033
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Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 23:27
https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719770975565148430
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https://x.com/Timesofgaza/status/1719771691482509797
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https://x.com/HadiNasrallah/status/1719792982444978259
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Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 23:32
https://x.com/dana916/status/1719833358178353561
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🇱🇧💤 We are ready to enter Israel
Hezbollah commander: we are ready to enter the occupied territories. We conducted training and planned how to attack all support ships of the Zionist regime on the day we received the order. Using new technology, we blew up the Merkava in two stages with a Kornet missile.
https://x.com/dana916/status/1719832801820705030
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https://x.com/dana916/status/1719847736772542569
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https://x.com/dana916/status/1719848703098269800
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Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 23:38
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719855511753895937
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https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719851753657585887
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https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719851817251582021
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https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719844161040384418
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Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 23:44
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1719829330853794121
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https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1719848173655474499
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https://x.com/mano_da_bounce/status/1719848916261212638
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https://x.com/mano_da_bounce/status/1719794832707604574
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grapevine
1st November 2023, 23:45
Pregnant women in Gaza say they are being forced to have c-sections by torchlight with no anaesthetic as bombardment continues
Pregnant women in Gaza are reportedly having to undergo c-section deliveries by torchlight and without anaesthetic in the beleaguered Strip as Israel's devastating bombardment continues.
'The chaos and horror unleashed in Gaza is affecting women in devastating ways,' said Soraida Hussein-Sabbah, a gender and advocacy specialist at ActionAid UK, based in Ramallah, the West Bank.
'Conditions in hospitals are dangerous, C-sections and major surgery is being performed with only the torch on a phone providing light as they undertake complex medical procedures as the bombs fall around them.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12695761/Pregnant-women-Gaza-say-forced-c-sections-torchlight-no-anaesthetic-bombardment-continues.html
Ravenlocke
1st November 2023, 23:50
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