Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[Szymon]

Interesting set of events happening right now in Israel.

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https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1710521026889568590






https://twitter.com/Shadi_Alkasim/status/1710511286369550395





https://twitter.com/Shadi_Alkasim/status/1710516154568225086

Szymon

[jaybee]

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This is a news report from just an hour or so ago....

Israel: 'State of war' declared after thousands of rockets fired from Gaza Strip(2:15)

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7 Oct 2023
Thousands of rockets have been fired from the Gaza Strip into Israel in a surprise attack launched by the Hamas militant group.

Israel says it is in a "state of war" after reports suggested Hamas fighters had entered the country via boat, truck and paraglider.

I can't help thinking of the World Changing Event thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121935-WORLD-CHANGING-EVENT-Clif-High-and-Dick-Allgire-discuss-looming-cataclysm) as we are approaching the highlighted dates in October/early November- - - -

All we can do is hope this doesn't lead to dangerous escalation - while everyone's attention is on Ukraine it would be typical if a major military conflict sprang up and spread out from somewhere else - and it wouldn't be surprising if Israel was involved somehow...

[Szymon]

Here is the latest on the situation.

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Szymon

[Szymon]

Some more news regarding ths situation.

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Apologies for any duplicate posts.


Szymon

[Libico]

Just to share some thoughts as an Israeli:

The news is massively under-reporting this internally and playing this off as as failure of our government, which is a bit ridiculous. Israel has one of the most sophisticated human intelligence networks so I don't see how this wasn't picked up on. On telegram (thanks @Syzmon for sharing) you can see hundreds of Gazans crossing the border with next to no military response. This seems reminiscent of 9/11 with the orders to stand down when the military should have been acting with a much faster response time. I have family living in one of the settlement bordering Gaza and happened to see my Aunt there a few days ago who mentioned that she has seen a large amount of activity nearby that when she reported to the military was told not to worry as it was just Hamas 'training'.

Videos surfacing that I've seen show tens of soldiers dead and by my rough count 10+ soldiers captured - for Israeli society this is a massive blow to morale.

The timing of this shouldn't be lost on us - Israel has been in a crisis for the last 6-9 months facing the biggest internal schism since it's formation with polarization between right-left so it isn't too far fetched that TPTB would invite a traumatic event like this bring everyone back in line; let's deal with our security first and getting our troops home and THEN we'll deal with those silly freedoms and basic rights

With the extreme nationalist government in power, this is the perfect foundation for a mass-casualty event hitting Gaza. Jewish extremists have become more vocal and and belligerent lately knowing they are above the law. Once the sabbath is over in Israel I'm expecting there to be a significant retaliatory incident against the Arab residents of the West Bank... the army/police haven't done much to stop them lately and now will even be less so inclined to do so.

[Tintin]

Just to share some thoughts as an Israeli:

The news is massively under-reporting this internally and playing this off as as failure of our government, which is a bit ridiculous. Israel has one of the most sophisticated human intelligence networks so I don't see how this wasn't picked up on. On telegram (thanks @Syzmon for sharing) you can see hundreds of Gazans crossing the border with next to no military response. This seems reminiscent of 9/11 with the orders to stand down when the military should have been acting with a much faster response time. I have family living in one of the settlement bordering Gaza and happened to see my Aunt there a few days ago who mentioned that she has seen a large amount of activity nearby that when she reported to the military was told not to worry as it was just Hamas 'training'.

Videos surfacing that I've seen show tens of soldiers dead and by my rough count 10+ soldiers captured - for Israeli society this is a massive blow to morale.

The timing of this shouldn't be lost on us - Israel has been in a crisis for the last 6-9 months facing the biggest internal schism since it's formation with polarization between right-left so it isn't too far fetched that TPTB would invite a traumatic event like this bring everyone back in line; let's deal with our security first and getting our troops home and THEN we'll deal with those silly freedoms and basic rights

With the extreme nationalist government in power, this is the perfect foundation for a mass-casualty event hitting Gaza. Jewish extremists have become more vocal and and belligerent lately knowing they are above the law. Once the sabbath is over in Israel I'm expecting there to be a significant retaliatory incident against the Arab residents of the West Bank... the army/police haven't done much to stop them lately and now will even be less so inclined to do so.


Hi there :bearhug:

I did immediately think of you when I picked up on the recent developments. I pray that you remain out of harm's way there :flower:

[Libico]

Just to share some thoughts as an Israeli:

The news is massively under-reporting this internally and playing this off as as failure of our government, which is a bit ridiculous. Israel has one of the most sophisticated human intelligence networks so I don't see how this wasn't picked up on. On telegram (thanks @Syzmon for sharing) you can see hundreds of Gazans crossing the border with next to no military response. This seems reminiscent of 9/11 with the orders to stand down when the military should have been acting with a much faster response time. I have family living in one of the settlement bordering Gaza and happened to see my Aunt there a few days ago who mentioned that she has seen a large amount of activity nearby that when she reported to the military was told not to worry as it was just Hamas 'training'.

Videos surfacing that I've seen show tens of soldiers dead and by my rough count 10+ soldiers captured - for Israeli society this is a massive blow to morale.

The timing of this shouldn't be lost on us - Israel has been in a crisis for the last 6-9 months facing the biggest internal schism since it's formation with polarization between right-left so it isn't too far fetched that TPTB would invite a traumatic event like this bring everyone back in line; let's deal with our security first and getting our troops home and THEN we'll deal with those silly freedoms and basic rights

With the extreme nationalist government in power, this is the perfect foundation for a mass-casualty event hitting Gaza. Jewish extremists have become more vocal and and belligerent lately knowing they are above the law. Once the sabbath is over in Israel I'm expecting there to be a significant retaliatory incident against the Arab residents of the West Bank... the army/police haven't done much to stop them lately and now will even be less so inclined to do so.


Hi there :bearhug:

I did immediately think of you when I picked up on the recent developments. I pray that you remain out of harm's way there :flower:

Thanks :). My family and our are fine and well out of harms way (we live in the north of Israel)... we're actually in the process of moving to the Netherlands permanently to try and have a more normal life

[Bill Ryan]

It's now the top news item on Zero Hedge.

https://zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-state-war-hamas-after-palestinian-militants-launch-unprecedented-incursion
(https://zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-state-war-hamas-after-palestinian-militants-launch-unprecedented-incursion)
Israel "In State Of War" with Hamas after Palestinian Militants Launch "Unprecedented" Incursion into Israel

(read more there (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-state-war-hamas-after-palestinian-militants-launch-unprecedented-incursion), as there's a lot to copy and this situation is developing fast)

Here's the summary as currently reported:


Militant group Hamas launched a sustained barrage of more than 5,000 rockets in a coordinated attack by land, sea and air. According to the NYT, the Hamas assault from Gaza on southern Israel has had few precedents in its complexity and scale, invading several Israeli towns and firing thousands of rockets toward cities as far away as Jerusalem.



The Israeli military said that at least 2,200 rockets had been fired into Israel by 11 a.m. on Saturday and that armed gunmen had crossed the border fence in several locations along Israel’s perimeter with Gaza, a poor coastal enclave that has been under blockade by Israel and neighboring Egypt for 16 years.



In addition to land, the militants also crossed into Israel by sea and air, according to the Israeli military. By late morning, at least 22 Israelis had been killed in the surprise attacks from Gaza and hundred more injured according to Israel’s main ambulance service, and Israel had retaliated with massive strikes on Gazan cities, killing at least one Palestinian, according to local reports.



Palestinian militants infiltrated at least seven Israeli communities and army bases this morning, according to the Israeli military spokesman, Lt. Col. Richard Hecht. He said militants had reached the city of Sderot; the small towns of Kfar Azza, Nahal Oz, Magen, Beeri; the military bases of Reim and Zikim, which are close to towns of the same name; and the militarized border checkpoint at Erez. Fighting was ongoing at or near the at least three of those places, he said.



Israel's emergency services said 22 people have been killed in the surprise attacks from Gaza and hundred more injured.



Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his country was now "at war" and that he had convened the heads of the security forces and instructed them to first clear all Israeli villages of Palestinian militants who had entered from Gaza.



Al Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, said that there was a military operation “in defense of the Aqsa mosque,” the hotly contested holy site in Jerusalem that thousands of Jews have visited in recent weeks, and against the Israeli blockade.



Israeli hospitals said they had received hundreds of wounded. Soroka Medical Center in the southern city of Beersheba had admitted more than 80 people, with some “in very difficult condition,” a hospital spokeswoman said. The ambulance service, Magen David Adom, issued an urgent call for blood.



Israel Defense Forces said they were carrying out strikes on Hamas targets in Gaza in response to the attacks on Israel.



Air-raid sirens sounded in Jerusalem, while explosions were heard in Tel Aviv.

[Tintin]

What's most unnerving here, from a relatively neutral observation, is how in the heck one of the most vaunted and lauded intelligence agencies on the planet managed to miss this. Or did they allow this to happen?

[Libico]

I served in an infantry unit in Gaza for 6 months and 2-3 months in some of the surrounding villages (back when I was much less aware of how the world worked) and even though this was close to 20 years ago, if there was even a suspicion of a terrorist infiltrating the fence multiple units would coverage on the location in a matter of 20 minutes tops to investigate and neutralize the situation. What we have here was what appear to hundreds of fighters infiltrate and take control of 10+ villages and only an hour ago it was announced that 7 battalions were moving in to confront them... close to five hours after this started.

I saw multiple movies of Hamas fighters waltzing around captured army outposts without a care in the world, without any kind of confrontation from Israel... Israel has a very powerful air force and any normal response in a case like this (from Israel or any other army) would be to turn the area where the fence has been infiltrated into a field of death, especially when it is known that the enemy is actively capturing soldiers and civilians. SOP was always to shoot to kill if there was a suspicion of live kidnapping of a solider or civilian as those entail very costly exchanges (Gilad Shalit a solider that was kidnapped for years was released to to the tune of 1k Palestinian prisoners). Now with 10+ solidiers including what appears to be a Brigadier General, Hamas has won the jackpot.

This reeks of a planned invasion from both sides - I fear this will be the equivalent of the Lusitania in WW1 to give an excuse to go in and flatten Gaza. The extremist government has been itching for it and parading the faces of kidnapped victims and smiling pictures of dead soldiers around for a week or two will bring everyone around to support this... so they'll probably get their war at the paltry cost of a few hundred casualties on our side.

[Bill Ryan]

A report from The Moon of Alabama about 45 minutes ago.


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/palestine-strikes-back.html#more

Palestine is Striking Back

October 5 2023:

Over 800 Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa compound during Jewish Sukkot holiday (https://www.newarab.com/news/over-800-israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-compound-sukkot)
More than 800 Israeli settlers stormed the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem on Thursday morning under the protection of Israeli forces. Rabbis, heads of settlement associations, and far-right university lecturers were among 832 people who forced their way into the religious site compound, a source in the Islamic Endowments Department in Jerusalem told The New Arab's Arabic sister site Al-Araby Al-Jadeed.
Israeli forces imposed severe restrictions on Muslim worshippers entering Al-Aqsa and those under 60 were prevented from accessing the site.
It comes during the Jewish religious holiday of Sukkot, which started on 29 September and ends on Friday. The holiday has seen thousands of Israeli extremists storm the Al-Aqsa compound, with almost 1,500 entering the site on Monday.
Israeli extremists also continued on Thursday to hold provocative marches both inside Jerusalem's Old City and outside its walls, attacking Palestinians and their property.
They also beat and spat at journalists in a market area near Al-Aqsa, where shops were forced to close for the sixth day in a row.
The Old City is home to Al-Aqsa as well as the Western Wall and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
The Al-Aqsa compound is the third holiest site in Islam and the most important Muslim place in Palestine.
October 7 2023:

Escalation in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (https://twitter.com/rybar_force/status/1710579131342090709/history)
This morning, the Islamic Jihad group announced the start of the Al-Aqsa Flood operation, igniting another local war against Israel. They formally cited regular oppression and attempts on Al-Aqsa as reasons, where local Arab worshippers have been repressed repeatedly (in addition, there have been raids against the Islamic Jihad in Jenin over the past few weeks).
The operation began quite dramatically: a naval landing was carried out in the north of the Gaza Strip, and there are also reports of airborne landings - someone parachuted into rear cities.
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After three hours of fighting, the group successfully captured a military base in the town of Kerem Shalom: there are enough images on social media of killed IDF servicemen and captured equipment (there are also photos of a burnt "Merkava" tank). This is a huge base on the border with Egypt. To put it mildly, the trophy is very valuable. ▪️As of now, fighting is still ongoing in Netiv HaAsara, Berri, and Sderot. Panic has gripped the population of bordering villages, with footage of people fleeing on foot. The Israel Defense Forces began retaliatory strikes only after 10 in the morning. The Israeli Ministry of Defense has stated outright that Hamas has gone to war with them, and at 10:30, the official start of the Iron Swords counter-terrorism operation was announced.
This is likely to escalate. It is impossible to predict when or how this will end.

[Bill Ryan]

There are frequent updates right now (including photos, videos, political statements and more) posted on these Telegram channels, all of which can be viewed in a browser without needing a Telegram account. There's way too much at the moment to easily copy and post on this thread.


https://t.me/s/CIG_telegram
https://t.me/s/remylind21
https://t.me/s/CyberspecNews
https://t.me/s/DDGeopolitics
https://t.me/s/llordofwar
https://t.me/s/Slavyangrad

[arwen]

Sorry to insert a tiny bit of woo here, but this development seems to ridiculously coincide with my 2017 vision for this time, with signs/markers which I outlined in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121538-Predictions-for-2024&p=1580595&viewfull=1#post1580595).

This is very serious.

[Tintin]

Sorry to insert a tiny bit of woo here, but this development seems to ridiculously coincide with my 2017 vision for this time, with signs/markers which I outlined in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121538-Predictions-for-2024&p=1580595&viewfull=1#post1580595).

This is very serious.

No need to apologise, at all :flower:

That's really a most interesting post too - thanks for sharing :highfive:

[waxamillionpehhgasus]

Interesting analysis on a major podcast:

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[Bill Ryan]

These are provisional claims, but those watching the situation estimate that the real numbers may be a third higher. The Israelis have apparently lost:


5 tanks
5 helicopters
2 heavy infantry fighting vehicles
12 armored personnel carriers
2 other wheeled armored vehicles
10 other wheeled vehicles
Enough Israeli soldiers captured to be exchanged with every Palestinian prisoner in Israel.

[pyrangello]

This is really bad, they bare saying thousands of rockets now, please post this link up

Israel Under Attack! 800+ Missiles Fired from GAZA; HAMAS Enters Israel by land and by Air! IDF Declares "State of War"

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israel-under-attack-800-missiles-fired-from-gaza-hamas-enters-israel-by-land-and-by-air-idf-declares-state-of-war

[Bill Ryan]

Here are the positions of Russia and China:


Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: "We call for an immediate ceasefire and a peace plan based on our support for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state within the 1967 borders, with East Jerusalem as its capital."



China recognized Palestine as a country and established diplomatic relations with it in 1988. When Palestinian President Abbas visited China at the invitation of President Xi Jinping in June it was announced that China and Palestine would enter into a strategic partnership. According to a joint statement issued by the two countries (Chinese here (https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1768729599262876993), translation here (http://www.china.org.cn/opinion/2023-06/19/content_88213867.htm)) China firmly supports establishing an independent Palestinian state with "full sovereignty on the basis of the 1967 borders and with East Jerusalem as its capital".

And both Saudi Arabia and Qatar have expressed interest in solving the problem with a two-state solution.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1710689503705202707

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https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1710685297166418177

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https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1710692170175287414

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[Bill Ryan]

https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1710692170175287414

1710692170175287414Yes. https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/84552

The text:

Support rallies for Hamas actions in Israel are happening in various Arab countries.
A massive march took place in the capital of Yemen, a demonstration was held in Syrian Aleppo, and a car procession with Palestinian flags was held in Baghdad.


DDGeopolitics/84552

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1710681645466988836

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[Bill Ryan]

An astonishing one-minute video. (There are dozens of these images on multiple Telegram channels)

Hamas used motor-powered hang gliders to infiltrate Israel


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF5vPfqtJBM

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1710643457977352633

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[Bill Ryan]

Official statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation:

https://t.me/MFARussia/17798

The text:
In Moscow, there is grave concern about the sharp escalation of the situation in the area of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

In this regard, we reaffirm our principled and consistent position that this conflict, which has lasted for 75 years, has no military solution and can only be settled by political and diplomatic means, through the establishment of a full-fledged negotiation process based on the known international legal foundation. This foundation envisions the creation of an independent Palestinian state within the 1967 borders with its capital in East Jerusalem, living in peace and security alongside Israel.

We view the current large-scale escalation as another highly dangerous manifestation of the vicious cycle of violence, which is a direct consequence of the chronic non-fulfillment of the relevant UN resolutions and its Security Council and the actual blocking by the West of the work of the Middle Eastern 'Quartet' of international mediators consisting of Russia, the USA, the EU, and the UN.

We urge both the Palestinian and Israeli sides to immediately cease fire, refrain from violence, show necessary restraint, and, with the assistance of the international community, establish a negotiation process aimed at achieving a comprehensive, lasting, and long-awaited peace in the Middle East.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1710697624238440889

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https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1710701707502489606

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1710695982369763471
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https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710686564807049273
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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Clashes between Hamas and Israel on the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War come as an expected development. This is what Washington and its allies should be busy with. The conflict between Israel and Palestine has been going on for decades, with the US the key player in it.

But instead of actively working at Palestinian-Israeli settlement, these morons have interfered with us, and are providing the neo-Nazis with full-scale aid, pitting the two closely related peoples against each other.

What can stop America’s manic obsession to incite conflicts all over the planet?

Looks like, nothing short of a civil war on the US territory.

https://x.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1710587836922053105

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Text:
📝🇮🇱🇺🇦: At this juncture, it seems safe to say this is a well coordinated action that, besides the symbolic act of being on the same date as the Yom Kippur War in 1973, was also timed to strike when the munitions shortage caused by the conflict in Ukraine would most seriously hamper the IDF’s capability to respond.

IF the IDF does enter Gaza in a ground invasion, they will get stuck in urban fighting without the benefit of sufficient heavy munitions to destroy fortified structures. Reading any account of Fallujah or other examples of modern urban combat can quickly inform the reader of just how horrific and casualty intensive that type of combat is for the attacker.

Thus, we can say this is the most obvious example to date of blowback from a country supporting Ukraine, and it doesn’t look set to abate anytime soon. - Intel Slava Z

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710706264152351112

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Russia is seriously concerned about the sudden escalation of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
In this regard, we would like to reaffirm our principled and consistent position that this conflict, which has been going on for 75 years, cannot be resolved by force and can only be resolved by political and diplomatic means, by engaging in a full-fledged negotiation process based on the well-known international a legal framework that provides for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state within the 1967 borders with its capital in East Jerusalem coexisting with Israel in peace and security.
Marija Zakharova

https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710704882066259996

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[Bill Ryan]

An interesting comment (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/palestine-strikes-back.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d39fc1b1200d#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d39fc1b1200d) on The Moon of Alabama. (This rings true, and it has to be likely that before this sudden attack Hamas consulted and coordinated closely with Hezbollah/Lebanon and Iran. Many militants in a whole bunch of Arab countries may now be smelling blood.)

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The timing literally could not be any worse for Israel to pick a fight with the Palestinians by attacking the Al-Aqsa mosque. The Arab world is united for the first time in years, Saudi Arabia and Iran are reconciled, and Turkey is sitting right over the border in Syria with an army

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1710663080747683971

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1710648612550590761

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https://new.thecradle.co/articles/we-are-at-war-netanyahu

We are at war: Netanyahu
Hours after the resistance in Gaza launched its biggest offensive against Israel in decades, the Israeli premier declared a state of war

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared a state of war on 7 October in response to the massive operation being conducted by Palestinian resistance factions from the Gaza Strip.

“Citizens of Israel, we are at war. And we will win,” Netanyahu says in a pre-recorded video released nearly four hours after Operation Al-Aqsa Flood began. “The enemy will pay a price like they have never known before,” he added.

The Israeli army has also confirmed Israel is “in a state of war,” with army spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari saying that troops are “flooding the area” near the Gaza Strip.

“We have begun a widespread call-up in all parts of the [armed forces]. The air force is also striking in Gaza,” he added.

The statement came as settlers say they are being “slaughtered” by resistance fighters who have reportedly taken control of at least eight illegal settlements near Gaza.

"We are being slaughtered. There is no army. It has been 6 hours. People are begging for their lives," one settler told Israeli daily Haaretz.

Videos shared on social media show settlers hiding inside dumpsters to hide from resistance fighters.

At least 22 Israelis have reportedly been killed, with those injured surpassing 400.

As the fighting continues near Gaza, celebrations are reported in the occupied West Bank.

“Here in Ramallah, we are seeing people shouting in celebration and in support of the military actions. We’ve seen similar scenes elsewhere in the occupied West Bank,” Al Jazeera’s Nida Ibrahim reports.

Clashes between Palestinians and Israeli security forces have also been reported in occupied East Jerusalem.

As the situation escalates across the occupied territories, Hamas spokesman Ghazi Hamad says Operation Al-Aqsa Flood is a message to Arab nations who have normalized ties with Israel.

“I think it is [shameful] for them. I ask all Arab countries to disconnect and cut relationships with Israel because it is not a state which believes in peace, or coexistence, or believes in being a good neighbor … It is an enemy state, and we have to stop them,” Hamad said.

[Bill Ryan]

I've been waiting for this, a report from Alexander Mercouris which he published a few minutes ago.

His update and comments on Israel/Palestine start at 2:20 and continues till 14:50 when he (wisely!) says that we're going to learn much more soon, more will happen soon (whatever it may be), and he and others will be discussing this in great depth soon (tomorrow and/or Monday) as well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBCvPQpg-HY

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/SALHACHIMI/status/1710640462984282449
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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1710692593212829753

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[Ravenlocke]

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[Bill Ryan]

https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710716033927963052
1710716033927963052Here's a translation from a Russian Telegram post.

caveat: I've not yet seen a confirmation of this. But if Hezbollah enters the conflict, this is now close to a regional war. Hezbollah is well-armed, well-organized, and far more of a regular army than the Hamas militia.

https://t.me/VA_Nikonov/16815
The Israeli Security Council has unanimously approved an IDF ground operation against the Gaza Strip.

A few hours earlier, the pro-Iranian Lebanese Hezbollah had already announced that in this case it would also enter the war. And there is already a video that they are transferring troops to the south of Lebanon.

The escalation continues.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710714905437798596

1710714905437798596

https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710714806334816293

1710714806334816293

https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710714317820076523

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https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710714235280339251

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1710717312859279618

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https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1710718592705016191

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Blackrussiantv/status/1710663600811966829

1710663600811966829

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1710726818704048351

1710726818704048351

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1710731748735406120

1710731748735406120

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1710703310909637037

1710703310909637037

https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1710708348008669535

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https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1710601096522285232

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https://x.com/chenweihua/status/1710638608736993716

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
🇺🇸🇵🇸🇮🇱Joe Biden, in light of the escalation of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, instructed his aides to intensify contacts with representatives of the Jewish state, countries of the region and Europe, and with the Palestinian side. He stated this while speaking at the White House.

The American president noted that he had instructed his administration staff responsible for national security issues to “maintain contact with their Israeli counterparts at the military level, at the intelligence level, at the diplomatic level, to make sure that Israel has what it needs.”

“I have also directed my aides to maintain ongoing contact with leaders in the region, including Egypt, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Jordan, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, as well as our European partners and the Palestinian Authority,” Biden said.

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710737608685601125

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[Bill Ryan]

Three new posts on this channel in quick succession:

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82024
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82025
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82026
1) Eyewitnesses report renewed rocket fire from the Gaza Strip into Israel, with dozens of rockets flying towards Tel Aviv

2) The Palestinian Foreign Ministry blamed the current escalation in the region on Israel's daily provocations and the international community's inaction in response.
"The continuation of the policy of double standards, the silence of the international community on the criminal actions of the Israeli forces against the Palestinian people, and the continued injustice and oppression inflicted on the Palestinian people are responsible for the explosive situation and the lack of peace and security in the region," the Palestinian Foreign Ministry said.
The ministry stressed that "Israel's refusal to honour signed agreements and its violations of international resolutions have undermined the peace process and led to the failure to reach a solution to the Palestinian question after 75 years of suffering and displacement".

3) 150 rockets fired on Tel-Aviv

ZandVchannel/82024
ZandVchannel/82025
ZandVchannel/82026

[Ravenlocke]

Text:

It must be tough waking up in Israel this morning confronted by the reality that the vaunted Israeli military, having flexed its muscles so impressively against unarmed Palestinians over the past years, isn’t so impressive when the Palestinians fight back.
If Hezbollah joins the fight, we could see the strategic defeat of Israel.
If Iran joins, we could see the end of Israel.
Israel brought this on itself.
Thank you, Bibbi Netanyahu.

https://x.com/RealScottRitter/status/1710634644373123365

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https://x.com/RealScottRitter/status/1710734427121238333

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[Bill Ryan]

If Hezbollah joins the fight, we could see the strategic defeat of Israel.
If Iran joins, we could see the end of Israel.
That's exactly why they might both do that.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1710737140634484769

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https://x.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1710737687131390338

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710744042240393540

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https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710743884823982495

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Text:

What happened today will not be seen in Israel and I will make sure it does not happen again. The IDF will immediately use its full force to destroy Hamas' capabilities. We will avenge this black day. We will turn all the places in this evil city where Hamas is hiding into ruins. Residents of Gaza, get out of there now.

We will avenge this black, dark day. We will turn every arab land into ruins, all the places in this evil city where Hamas Terrorists controls and hides in. Residents of Gaza, get out of there now or face the gates of Hell over you. Hamas started a brutal war on the Final day of Sukkot holiday - we will win it, but the price is too heavy to bear - Netanyahu

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710741793611157557

1710741793611157557

[Bill Ryan]

I don't have the original (can anyone else find it?), but apparently this was tweeted by RFK Jr. (If so, this may say quite a lot about him.)

https://t.me/llordofwar/212037

The text:
This ignominious, unprovoked, and barbaric attack on Israel must be met with world condemnation and unequivocal support for the Jewish state’s right to self-defense. We must provide Israel with whatever it needs to defend itself — now. As President, I’ll make sure that our policy is unambiguous so that the enemies of Israel will think long and hard before attempting aggression of any kind.

I applaud the strong statements of support from the Biden White House for Israel in her hour of need. However, the scale of these attacks means it is likely that Israel will need to wage a sustained military campaign to protect its citizens. Statements of support are fine, but we must follow through with unwavering, resolute, and practical action. America must stand by our ally throughout this operation and beyond as it exercises its sovereign right to self-defense.
llordofwar/212037

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1710728391547101503

1710728391547101503

https://x.com/arktinentuuli/status/1710734890382119372

1710734890382119372

https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1710730741393301516

1710730741393301516

[edina]

I don't have the original (can anyone else find it?), but apparently this was tweeted by RFK Jr. (If so, this may say quite a lot about him.)

https://t.me/llordofwar/212037

The text:
This ignominious, unprovoked, and barbaric attack on Israel must be met with world condemnation and unequivocal support for the Jewish state’s right to self-defense. We must provide Israel with whatever it needs to defend itself — now. As President, I’ll make sure that our policy is unambiguous so that the enemies of Israel will think long and hard before attempting aggression of any kind.

I applaud the strong statements of support from the Biden White House for Israel in her hour of need. However, the scale of these attacks means it is likely that Israel will need to wage a sustained military campaign to protect its citizens. Statements of support are fine, but we must follow through with unwavering, resolute, and practical action. America must stand by our ally throughout this operation and beyond as it exercises its sovereign right to self-defense.
llordofwar/212037

yep, it's legit, here's Kennedy's original tweet
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https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1710689115522371772

It saddens me.
I did wonder this morning if this would lead to a push for US engagement since support for the Ukraine is fading.

[Bill Ryan]

It saddens me.
I was a little surprised. I'd thought he'd have the presidential nous to at least say something impressively statesmanlike. That's rather a poor Fail.

I see there are already 6k replies. I can't see those without a Twitter a/c. Without derailing the thread, what's the general tone of the response? Most of his Twitter followers will be (or will have been!) his hopeful supporters.

[edina]

It saddens me.
I was a little surprised. I'd thought he'd have the presidential nous to at least say something impressively statesmanlike. That's rather a poor Fail.

I see there are already 6k replies. I can't see those without a Twitter a/c. Without derailing the thread, what's the general tone of the response? Most of his Twitter followers will be (or will have been!) his hopeful supporters.

people calling him out, losing their vote

[Bill Ryan]

It saddens me.
I was a little surprised. I'd thought he'd have the presidential nous to at least say something impressively statesmanlike. That's rather a poor Fail.

I see there are already 6k replies. I can't see those without a Twitter a/c. Without derailing the thread, what's the general tone of the response? Most of his Twitter followers will be (or will have been!) his hopeful supporters.

people calling him out, losing their voteYep. Wow, this is quite a day. (And it's not over yet)

I wonder what Tucker, Elon, and Trump will say.

[edina]

Nothing from Tucker yet, at least not on Twitter/X

Elon is rather benign:
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1710557783471305080
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1710725151543718134

And links to Trumps most recent truths on the topic:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111195007459768097

Joe Biden’s ineptitude, weakness, and incompetence has led to this horrible attack on Israel, and it will only get worse. Just four years ago we had the signing of the historic Abraham Accords, and today we have an attack on Israel. What a difference a President makes!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111195594096262837

“TRUMP SPEAKS OUT ON HAMAS WAR ON ISRAEL: ‘AN ACT OF SAVAGERY THAT MUST AND WILL BE CRUSHED’”

(Looks like he has a lot of auto-pre-scheduled campaign posts interspersed with all of this.)

RSBNetwork tweeted this, looks like Trump was on a campaign stop and made a statement from there?
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https://twitter.com/RSBNetwork/status/1710743889210937531

He points out what I'm seeing others also talk about, the money that Biden recently gave Iran.

Not mentioned, but I am seeing in various places, many of the weapons used are US made sent to Ukraine? Not surprising, though.

[Bill Ryan]

Nothing from Tucker yet, at least not on Twitter/X

Elon is rather benignThanks. So interesting. Trump fell into the same trap that RFK did.

Elon was quite smart in his rather meek and mild remarks (though I bet he'll say more later today or tomorrow). The hate is just everywhere right now. He was spot-on about that.

So, Tucker for president. :)
(Btw, I also wonder what Tulsi and Doug Macgregor will say)

[edina]

So, Tucker for president. :)
(Btw, I also wonder what Tulsi and Doug Macgregor will say)

Nothing yet, I'll check back later and share here, if someone else hasn't already.

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Here come the drums of war, with the US military industrial complex salivating at the prospect of another war now that Ukraine has been thoroughly milked.

Overnight, everyone was just divided into two groups and you must pick a side and support it blindly without question, or you get labeled, ridiculed, and dismissed.

If you defend Israel, you are a zionist.

If you defend Hamas, you are an anti-semite.

Is there any room left for people who think neither side is innocent? Am I allowed to criticize the actions of both sides without being labeled and hated for it? Am I allowed to think all these conflicts are not what they seem on the surface with much greater forces and agendas behind it?

Could there be globalist financial interests involved here? Could there be a money hungry military industrial complex driving the conflict to distract and divert from impending global financial collapse? Could this be like 9/11 where an attack was allowed to justify the response and subsequent military conflict?

Why did the Iron Dome system fail? How did one of the most heavily defended borders on earth allow for hundreds of soldiers to get through with no response?

Israel is one of the most militarily advanced nations on earth with the entire US military establishment behind it, with incredible surveillance technologies on top of it all, and somehow they missed this impending attack? That should make everyone go "wait a minute".

If you aren't the least bit suspicious about any of what's happening right now and you're blindly defending either side, then you need to go back and review 9/11, as well as every other conflict since WW1. Nothing is ever what it seems on the surface, and there are always much bigger forces using both sides as chess pieces for a greater agenda.

So with that, here is a video of Netanyahu talking about America and how we're easily manipulated and moved to support their interests, and how we'll never "get in their way".

All. Wars. Are. Bankers. Wars.


(Video with English sub titles)
https://x.com/Inversionism/status/1710734570503463273

1710734570503463273

[Szymon]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1710728391547101503

1710728391547101503

https://x.com/arktinentuuli/status/1710734890382119372

1710734890382119372

https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1710730741393301516

1710730741393301516

Here is the complete translation of that video.


In 2024 there will be no elections. There will be no country called Ukraine. You do not take into account the situation in the Middle East. There will be such events that everyone will forget what Ukraine is. It is about the Third World War. Iran is not Vietnam, nor North Korea, nor Kosovo. There will be the most terrible events. We will be forced to let the refugees there to you. Europe will let you in. The Turks, at our request, will let you in. Here, all of you will gather there, and your country is over. We have to do it. That you ignore international law, forgot what Russia is, and, so to speak, violate. Everything that is possible, You are just mocking. You are here for 5 years, and our political scientists are there, journalists, athletes, artists, deputies. You have banned everything. you

Cheers,
Szymon

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Here come the drums of war, with the US military industrial complex salivating at the prospect of another war now that Ukraine has been thoroughly milked.

Overnight, everyone was just divided into two groups and you must pick a side and support it blindly without question, or you get labeled, ridiculed, and dismissed.

If you defend Israel, you are a zionist.

If you defend Hamas, you are an anti-semite.

Is there any room left for people who think neither side is innocent? Am I allowed to criticize the actions of both sides without being labeled and hated for it? Am I allowed to think all these conflicts are not what they seem on the surface with much greater forces and agendas behind it?

Could there be globalist financial interests involved here? Could there be a money hungry military industrial complex driving the conflict to distract and divert from impending global financial collapse? Could this be like 9/11 where an attack was allowed to justify the response and subsequent military conflict?

Why did the Iron Dome system fail? How did one of the most heavily defended borders on earth allow for hundreds of soldiers to get through with no response?

Israel is one of the most militarily advanced nations on earth with the entire US military establishment behind it, with incredible surveillance technologies on top of it all, and somehow they missed this impending attack? That should make everyone go "wait a minute".

If you aren't the least bit suspicious about any of what's happening right now and you're blindly defending either side, then you need to go back and review 9/11, as well as every other conflict since WW1. Nothing is ever what it seems on the surface, and there are always much bigger forces using both sides as chess pieces for a greater agenda.

So with that, here is a video of Netanyahu talking about America and how we're easily manipulated and moved to support their interests, and how we'll never "get in their way".

All. Wars. Are. Bankers. Wars.


(Video with English sub titles)
https://x.com/Inversionism/status/1710734570503463273

1710734570503463273

https://x.com/giannipov/status/1710692221781938653

1710692221781938653

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1710747438829519275

1710747438829519275

[Bill Ryan]

Just a note here, which I'd bet is sure to be accurate. It's been reported on multiple channels today.

Q: Where have Hamas got so many of their weapons?
A: From Ukraine — bought and sold on the black market.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1710756373628162283

1710756373628162283

https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1710755552907661670

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https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1710732868127703349

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https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1710675656936173940

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[Satori]

Just a note here, which I'd bet is sure to be accurate. It's been reported on multiple channels today.

Q: Where have Hamas got so many of their weapons?
A: From Ukraine — bought and sold on the black market.

Which means, the weapons or money for the weapons came largely from the USA. So, the USA is, again, paying to attack itself and its so-called allies. The fleecing of hard-working people, and the murdering of innocent people, continues unabated.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1710600377710895589

1710600377710895589

https://x.com/Ramy_Sawma/status/1710771201109287307

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/DimaZeniuk/status/1710762894088896661

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1710755583270211948

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https://x.com/dana916/status/1710757283406156069

1710757283406156069

[norman]

Hamas is probably a puppet of MI6.

The last big skirmish/massacre in Gaza a few years back was a deliberate horror show to smoke out critical voices from the media and fire them. For now, I'm running on an assumption that this is part of a synchronised op to drive up emotions and trigger careless words and behaviour thousands of miles away.

Don't get triggered. They have tightened up the law on 'hate speech' in Europe and UK, so maybe they want to take it for a spin.

A year of trials for hate speech and taboo political opinions would be perfect for a certain faction in this global fight in the run up to A US AND a UK election next year.

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
The United States will have to choose who to help: Ukraine or Israel - Business Insider

Recently, the attention of the United States has been occupied with the issue of assistance to Ukraine; weapons were sent there even from Israel. However, the outbreak of new hostilities in Israel could change this situation, writes Business Insider.

Israel is a key partner of the United States; as soon as hostilities began there, Washington promised to provide Israel with everything it needed. But the US military reserves are already depleted; production capacity is not enough to supply Ukraine.

Now, experts suggest, the United States will have to choose who to help: Ukraine or Israel.

https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710782190605193578

1710782190605193578

[Tintin]

Just a note here, which I'd bet is sure to be accurate. It's been reported on multiple channels today.

Q: Where have Hamas got so many of their weapons?
A: From Ukraine — bought and sold on the black market.

Or via the Taliban, via Afghanistan, via the black market....and/or directly supplied by Iran or the Saudis

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It saddens me.
I was a little surprised. I'd thought he'd have the presidential nous to at least say something impressively statesmanlike. That's rather a poor Fail.

I see there are already 6k replies. I can't see those without a Twitter a/c. Without derailing the thread, what's the general tone of the response? Most of his Twitter followers will be (or will have been!) his hopeful supporters.

Sadly I'm not surprised at all. He's really in the back pocket of the Israel Lobby who he's probably had to cut some kind of deal with to stand any realistic chance on the presidential run-in.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/dana916/status/1710754921899831712

1710754921899831712

https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710780140718899459

1710780140718899459

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710787548979900637

1710787548979900637

[Rizotto]

Just a note here, which I'd bet is sure to be accurate. It's been reported on multiple channels today.

Q: Where have Hamas got so many of their weapons?
A: From Ukraine — bought and sold on the black market.

Which means, the weapons or money for the weapons came largely from the USA. So, the USA is, again, paying to attack itself and its so-called allies. The fleecing of hard-working people, and the murdering of innocent people, continues unabated.

All planned by the globalist cabal whose agenda is 'divide & conquer', and ultimately world wide depopulation. WW3 would achieve that!

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MilitaryEye/status/1710771688957222963

1710771688957222963

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710772775408013573

1710772775408013573

https://x.com/MilitaryEye/status/1710778512578093499

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Text:

🇺🇸🇮🇱🇵🇸The United States intends to provide support to Israel in light of the escalating conflict with Palestine, including in the area of ​​intelligence transfer, a senior administration official said.

At the moment, the parties are negotiating possible military assistance; their details may be made public tomorrow.


https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710783712408076630

1710783712408076630

Text:
🇺🇸🇮🇷🇵🇸🇮🇱The United States currently has no information about Iran's involvement in attacks on Israel, the administration said.

Washington now considers it premature to draw conclusions regarding Iran's involvement in attacks on Israel, the US administration said in a statement.

US authorities are discussing with Israel its needs for military assistance, but are not yet ready to announce its provision - US administration
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710779173726503021

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[norman]

https://t.me/rightonradio/17920
rightonradio/17920


https://twitter.com/RSBNetwork/status/1710743889210937531
1710743889210937531

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/WithyGrove/status/1710784949123518485

1710784949123518485


https://x.com/timand2037/status/1710795019378897065

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https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1710789204433584191

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
So this is interesting and amusing.

A community note was added to the tweet shown below and a link is provided.

So Israel admits the fear of precisely what we stated. Or are we now to believe that Hamas isn't a foe?

So thanks for demonstrating precisely why what the original tweet said is correct.

A high-ranking Israel Defense Forces (IDF) commander has told Newsweek that Israel is concerned over the risks of weapons provided by the United States and other Western nations to Ukraine ending up in the hands of Israel's foes in the Middle East, including Iran.

https://x.com/thesiriusreport/status/1710759916003004922

1710759916003004922

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/thesiriusreport/status/1710639255679107563

1710639255679107563

https://x.com/thesiriusreport/status/1710635162474533215

1710635162474533215

[SilentFeathers]

Hamas is probably a puppet of MI6.

The last big skirmish/massacre in Gaza a few years back was a deliberate horror show to smoke out critical voices from the media and fire them. For now, I'm running on an assumption that this is part of a synchronised op to drive up emotions and trigger careless words and behaviour thousands of miles away.

Don't get triggered. They have tightened up the law on 'hate speech' in Europe and UK, so maybe they want to take it for a spin.

A year of trials for hate speech and taboo political opinions would be perfect for a certain faction in this global fight in the run up to A US AND a UK election next year.

I agree with you about not getting immediately triggered over this; Everything these last several years is NOT what it seems....

The first red flag I've noticed is all the media etc., are calling this a "surprise attack". Really????????????? Are we really to believe that all most sophisticated intelligence agencies, spy agencies, and most highly trained embedded assets on the planet missed every sign possible that there might be some sort of attack?????? I call BS. This was obviously allowed to happen in my opinion.

This could easily just be the beginning of the whole middle east spiraling into complete chaos....and the causation for chaos in many other locations around the globe due to those who are sympathetic to one side or the other involved. This is horrible no matter what angle you look at from.....

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/snarwani/status/1710785539530510624

1710785539530510624


https://x.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1710787210948051225

1710787210948051225

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1710821564864758093

1710821564864758093

[mojo]

Bill Salus and Bill Koenig host a informative Q&A session about the recent war declaration coming out of Israel

oQk2RZXEUYg

[norman]

Hamas is probably a puppet of MI6.

The last big skirmish/massacre in Gaza a few years back was a deliberate horror show to smoke out critical voices from the media and fire them. For now, I'm running on an assumption that this is part of a synchronised op to drive up emotions and trigger careless words and behaviour thousands of miles away.

Don't get triggered. They have tightened up the law on 'hate speech' in Europe and UK, so maybe they want to take it for a spin.

A year of trials for hate speech and taboo political opinions would be perfect for a certain faction in this global fight in the run up to A US AND a UK election next year.

I agree with you about not getting immediately triggered over this; Everything these last several years is NOT what it seems....

The first red flag I've noticed is all the media etc., are calling this a "surprise attack". Really????????????? Are we really to believe that all most sophisticated intelligence agencies, spy agencies, and most highly trained embedded assets on the planet missed every sign possible that there might be some sort of attack?????? I call BS. This was obviously allowed to happen in my opinion.

This could easily just be the beginning of the whole middle east spiraling into complete chaos....and the causation for chaos in many other locations around the globe due to those who are sympathetic to one side or the other involved. This is horrible no matter what angle you look at from.....

It looks synchronised.

Hamas official statement sounds almost exactly like words Hillary Clinton would put into the mouths of MAGA people right now.

Hamas declared that Operation Al-Aqsa Flood had begun and that they had decided “….to put an end to all the crimes of the occupation (Israel), their time for rampaging without being held accountable is over,”


~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~


He must be talking about MSM

https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel/47117
LauraAbolichannel/47117

[norman]

Scott Ritter again.

Hamas has reportedly captured Brigadier General Nimrod Aloni. Aloni stepped aside as the commanding officer of the Gaza Division in August 2022. He currently is the commander of the “Depth Corps”, a strategic force whose mission is to use Israeli special forces to operate in the depth of an enemy. It seems Hamas has turned the table on Israel, and is now operating in Israel’s strategic depth. This operation is extraordinarily well planned and executed. Any notion that Israel will be able to contain this attack soon is misplaced. Israel did not anticipate anything of this scope and scale. It is a massive intelligence failure for Israel, and an equally impressive operational success for Hamas.

https://twitter.com/realscottritter/status/1710604089053053001
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[shaberon]

https://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2020/06/manar-00675200015930942262.jpg




He says Zionists are pudding (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1918853):


The Palestinian Hamas resistance movement has rebuffed Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s claim that only “dozens” of Israelis have been taken captive in the ongoing operation against the regime.

In a recorded message aired shortly after midnight on Sunday, Abu Ubaida, the spokesperson for the Gaza Strip-based movement’s military wing, al-Qassam Brigades, presented a differing account.

“Today, you spoke of dozens of prisoners, but we assure you, Netanyahu, that the number of your captives far exceeds this count. You must keep better track of your soldiers,” Ubaida firmly stated. He continued, “These prisoners are dispersed throughout all areas of Gaza, and they share in the experiences of our people in the Gaza Strip.”

The Palestinian resistance fighters have apprehended a substantial number of Israeli forces and settlers since the commencement of Operation al-Aqsa Storm on early Saturday. This operation marks the most significant effort by Palestinian resistance groups against the occupying regime in years. It is characterized by intensive rocket barrages and surprise attacks by resistance fighters on Israeli forces and settlers within the occupied territories.

As of now, the operation has resulted in the loss of approximately 300 Israeli lives, with thousands more sustaining injuries, including hundreds in critical condition.

Leaders of the resistance view this operation as a definitive response to the continuous campaign of violence and devastation perpetuated by the Israeli regime against the Palestinian people.

In response to Netanyahu’s recent statements in which he threatened to employ all means to destroy the military capabilities of both Hamas and the Islamic Jihad movement, Abu Ubaida addressed the Israeli leader’s remarks, highlighting the deep crisis within the Israeli establishment. He remarked, “Threatening Gaza is a futile endeavor.”

Directing his message to Netanyahu, Abu Ubaida continued, “You threaten us with any army, but remember your soldiers who fled like locusts in the face of Qassam fighters, leaving everything behind in their haste.”



The main reason behind this is most likely Bin Salman's attempt at normalization with Israel (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1914541).



Hezbollah announced on Sunday it had targeted three Israeli posts in occupied Shebaa Farms, in a clear message of solidarity with Palestinian people and resistance.

It named the three sites: Radar, Zibdin and Ruweissat Al-Alam. The resistance fighters used a significant number of artillery shells and guided missiles, resulting in direct hits on these sites, the statement added.

In Iran (https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/07/712232/Zionist-Regime-Dying-Muslim-World-Must-heed-Leader-Timely-Warning):


In his enlightening address, Ayatollah Khamenei likened the "push for normalization" by some regional countries with the Zionist entity as "betting on the losing horse."

He predicted that such "normalization" is bound to fail, as the Palestinian resistance has pushed the Zionist regime to the brink of extinction.

On Saturday, a week after his remarks, the Palestinian resistance movement in the Gaza Strip launched a surprise attack on the occupied territories involving aerial, sea and ground operations.

"The Islamic Republic firmly believes that governments that have the normalization gamble with the Zionist regime on their agenda will be in harm's way," he told the guests in a speech televised live. "This regime is dying and those states are betting on the losing horse.”


“If countries such as Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and the Persian Gulf countries adopt a united policy in their fundamental and general affairs, the aggressive powers will not be able to interfere in their internal affairs or in their foreign policy. They are interfering at this point,” he said, as cited on his website.



Palestinian political commentator and former detainee Ziad Hamouri told the Press TV website that the Al-Aqsa Storm “stands as a bureaucratic and security failure for the Israeli regime” and “proves that all the regime’s institutions suffer a resounding failure including the Shin Bet and Mossad.”

[Rizotto]

Is it possible that this latest Hamas attack on Isreal was in part triggered by the recent missile attack on a graduation ceremony at a Syrian military college, killing & injuring hundreds of people, including women and children. While the attacker has not yet been identified, it is a fact that over the past several years Isreal has conducted multiple unprovoked attacks on Syria, killing many Syrians. Isreal claims to be eliminating Iranian militants from Syrian soil (as if they have the right to do that...). Did Isreal ever think that such unprovoked attacks would result in closer collaboration between middle east countries against Isreal. Which is in fact happening, as we can see from info in the post above.

[Libico]

Is it possible that this latest Hamas attack on Isreal was in part triggered by the recent missile attack on a graduation ceremony at a Syrian military college, killing & injuring hundreds of people, including women and children. While the attacker has not yet been identified, it is a fact that over the past several years Isreal has conducted multiple unprovoked attacks on Syria, killing many Syrians. Isreal claims to be eliminating Iranian militants from Syrian soil (as if they have the right to do that...). Did Isreal ever think that such unprovoked attacks would result in closer collaboration between middle east countries against Isreal. Which is in fact happening, as we can see from info in the post above.

It could be tangentially related, perhaps to bring Syria into the upcoming war that may take place on multiple fronts, but Hamas' operation took months of planning to be carried out with such precision and success. That of course also leads one to wonder, fora n operation that was planned for months involving hundred of operatives how was nothing picked up on? Israeli arrogance at the capabilities of Hamas may be part of the reason, but there are plenty of intelligence people who have been warning about the growing strength for Hamas for months.

Watching the news, it is funny (as much humor as one can find at this time) how ever hour or two they come back and mention about "conspiracies" that this was an inside job and how everyone should ignore that, as the army did a thorough investigation and ruled that out... a thorough investigation in less than 24 hours when we are meant to believe they were caught with their pants down.

[Rizotto]

Slightly going off topic, but I would appreciate advice from everyone here on the following. I just had a run-in with a fundamentalist christian who believes literally that the bible holds all of the unquestionable truth about history and the future. According to this person Isreal has only taken back its own god-given lands in the state of Isreal, and Palestinians are just usurpers who thoroughly deserve to be kicked out. The worse is this belief of the biblical end times prophecy, where the fundamentalists urgently hope for, and even intervene for, that the end times second return of christ is dependent on Isreal regaining control of the state, and/or the third rebuilding of the temple, and the complete destruction of Damascus. So, these dear christians hope and pray for all this destruction and killings because then they, as the elects, will be saved by the 'rapture'. (As per the book of "Revelations", I think.)

I recall back in 2018 or 2019 watching a video of then secretary of state Mike Pompeo addressing an audience of christians assuring them that they were working on making those prophecies happen, in particular the destruction of Damascus, with the USA military might at their disposal. All of which undoubtedly harming millions of innocent people in these middle eastern countries.

All of this sends icy shivers down my spine, is anybody else feeling the evil emanating from such positions? So far, I've mostly been avoiding these 'christians', except for today where I soon found out that a fact-based rational discussion doesn't seem possible. What to say to christians who hold such disregard for palestinians? The complication is that this is someone with whom I had been working with on ending the covid mandates.

[Isserley]

What to say to christians who hold such disregard for palestinians?

What to say to a person of any religion, fundamental worldview? Well nothing.. such should be avoided. I have already concluded that it consumes too much energy. The solution lies in respecting other religions, cultures, everything, and we currently live in an era of division and fundamentalism. what a wonderful world.. :sarcasm:

[Bill Ryan]

A personal summary note. Early morning here, and I'm working hard to catch up with news reports — and also to gain a deeper (non-knee-jerk!) understanding of what may really be happening here. I'm wary of jumping to too many quick conclusions, but (like many others, I suspect) my instinctive sympathies have always been with the Palestinians.

However, the timing of all this invites many questions. And as many readers may know, there have been serious, credible predictions and prophecies of major events in October, or to happen 'soon'. See these threads for more:


WORLD CHANGING EVENT? Clif High and Dick Allgire discuss looming cataclysm (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121935-WORLD-CHANGING-EVENT-Clif-High-and-Dick-Allgire-discuss-looming-cataclysm)
A well known Polish clairvoyant tells the future (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121009-A-well-known-Polish-clairvoyant-tells-the-future.--Sensitive-Information--Members-Only)
The Third Secret of Fatima (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120874-The-Third-Secret-of-Fatima)
The Visions of Father Oliveira (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121036-The-Visions-of-Father-Oliveira)
Predictions for 2024 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121538-Predictions-for-2024)
Predictions for 2022-23 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117176-Predictions-for-2022-23)

So this has my full attention. Whether engineered or not, this has the potential to spin rapidly way out of control. It appears that rockets have already been fired into Israel from Lebanon, and here's just one of many overnight Telegram posts summarizing the situation:

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/44565

The text:

Israel is reportedly calling up thousands of reservists from abroad.
So they expect a big fight.
There's talk that IF the IDF launch a large scale ground operation into Gaza, it's likely that the war would then escalate to include at a minimum Hezbollah in the North and possibly Iran and some Arab states

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[Bill Ryan]

And just a little bit more. What I see — everywhere! — is a huge boiling pot of triggered emotion and hate. It's almost as if someone or something somewhere has turned up the emotional heat to 11, and is now sitting back to see what will ensue. (Not a joke. It feels like that.)

Look at this, from Joel Pollak, the editor-in-chief of the Breitbart news portal: (The tweet has had 177,400 views)

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/44575

The text:
I have broken the Sabbath and Jewish holiday to deliver this message: Israel should wipe out Gaza. Allow 48 hours to evacuate women, children and the elderly. Destroy everything that remains, plow it under, and annex it to Israel.This is the end of Hamas and Palestinian terror.

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[Bill Ryan]

This astonished me. These weren't people in the streets. This was Iran's parliament.

https://t.me/llordofwar/212481

The text: (with a video)

Iran's parliament supported the Hamas attacks and widely chanted "Death to America".


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[Bill Ryan]

Despite what I posted above (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120822-Turmoil-in-Israel&p=1580845&viewfull=1#post1580845)about the dangers of being triggered by emotion (all of which may be being engineered), I felt I had to share this. It's not rhetorical propaganda... it's a real person talking on video. Watch, and read the subtitles. :flower:

https://t.me/llordofwar/212447

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This is copied simply in full here so that it can be read. I'm sure these events happened. One of the signficances here is that videos like this will be being circulated everywhere in the Arab/anti-Israeli world right now, with predictable results.
Watch this video that the pro-Zionist media does not want you to see because it shows the true measure of Jewish 'morality'.
These retired 'Israeli' soldiers recall - nonchalantly and with smiles on their faces - how they and their cohort did the following whilst ethnically cleansing Palestinian villages:
— Raped a 16-year-old Palestinian girl;
— Gathered Palestinians into a cage and killed them;
— Burned fleeing villagers alive with flamethrowers;
— Killed every unarmed person they came across EVEN SCHOOLCHILDREN WHO HAD THEIR HANDS RAISED;
One of them laughs almost hysterically when asked to count how many he killed. "It's not possible for me to know" , he says, "I fired and killed everyone".
GRN has covered how the Palestinian fighters are indeed protecting women and children - something the media will never show you. (https://t.me/Cultures_of_Resistance/17476)
Saraya Al-Qassam Commander Mohammed al-Deif (H.A.) said at the outset of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood that Palestinian fighters should "not harm the young or the old, but fight!"
Despite the sheer evil nature of the enemy the Palestinian Resistance does not stoop to Jewish levels. It operates according to Islamic principles.
There is no argument here, there is no debate. This war between Palestine and the usurping Zionist entity is one of right versus wrong and good versus evil.
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[Libico]

Thanks Bill - the last post refers the Tantura massacre in 1948 and a recent documentary that came out in 2022 (well worth watching - https://www.tantura-film.com/). The story behind the documentary itself is also very interesting - in a nutshell an Israeli scholar who wrote his thesis on this and was effectively silenced and discredited for exposing a narrative that went against the binary Israel == good, Arab == bad. The director of this documentary came across this case and after looking into it felt compelled to expose it. Here is a good article about the original scholar (Teddy Katz - https://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/the-tantura-massacre-of-1948-and-the-academic-character-assassination-of-teddy-katz)

Emotions are certainly high for everyone involved... as outraged and saddened as I am to see kidnapped Israeli children being bullied and pushed around, videos of a family seeing their daughter executed by Hamas, and the aftermath of a family in Gaza wiped out by yet mroe bombing, what really boils my blood is how accepting everyone is at the ridiculous narrative that this was just happenstance and chance and not an orchestrated event. It defies any logic or common sense but sadly it's easier to bury your head in the sand than confront the truth and all of its implications.

[Tintin]

One of the most impressive journalists and commentators for many a year now, Eva Bartlett, posted the following very interesting piece on her Telegram channel earlier today:

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I've never been through Erez (only been shot with live ammunition at by Israeli soldiers from Erez), but have seen footage of the crossing before this, very fortified.

If Resistance have taken control, impressive!

*Note: The reason I haven't gone into/out of Gaza via Erez is that the Zionists do not allow honest journalists in.

I first entered Gaza by boat from Cyprus (November 2008) and subsequently left and returned via the Rafah crossing.

I also once entered and left by tunnel. Guess what I saw in the tunnels: Palestinian civilians who otherwise couldn't exit the open air prison that is the Gaza Strip, leaving to Egypt for the medical care they cannot get in Gaza because of Israel’s inhumane, brutal, 15+ year siege on Gaza (prohibiting entry of vital medicines and medical equipment), Israeli wars on Gaza (targeting hospitals), and the long power outages (sometimes 20 hours off when I lived there, otherwise at least 8 or 10 orn12 hours off, daily) due to Israel’s bombing of Gaza's sole power plant back in 2006

All of this has devastated Gaza's medical system. Hence, since Israel usually doesn't allow Palestinians with medical referrals to exit Gaza, and Egypt (when I was there) made it almost impossible for Palestinians to exit, the tunnels were the only option.

I've written quite a lot about Israel’s sadistic siege on Gaza and the consequences it has had on Palestinians' ability to simply survive, summarized (with links) here: https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/observations-from-occupied-palestine-in-gaza/

In Gaza (https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/observations-from-occupied-palestine-in-gaza/)
Observations from Occupied Palestine: Gaza

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Source: Telegram (https://t.me/Reality_Theories/14342)

[Ernie Nemeth]

In a direct counter to this propaganda are the pictures of murdered Israeli civilians, shot in the head, their bodies left where they fell. Many of the murdered were children and seniors. Not to mention the Palestinian paratroopers that shot at everything that moved as they neared the ground.

How about the body of the young German girl, whose half naked body was paraded around in the back of a pick-up truck.

So don't try and say how lovely and life-affirming the Palestinians, Iranians, and the Taliban are...

[Bill Ryan]

I've NOT yet listened to this (it was published 3 minutes ago!), but Alexander Mercouris is sure to offer a balanced, cautious, and accurate summary of what the heck is happening and why.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtYXet8gaJI

[Gwin Ru]

...

... answering the question "How could 9-11 even happen?"... should give one an idea of what this event actually is... something to do with flags:

Subversion and Betrayal (https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b/subversion-and-betrayal:7) 14:00

October 8, 2023

roypotterqa (https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b)
@RoystonPotter
(https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b)
What is happening in the Middle East and what it portends.


@RoystonPotter:b/subversion-and-betrayal:7

[Tintin]

A timely reminder from Henry Makow. There's been speculation in the past on the provenance, or at least the true author, but it has been authored, by someone with prophetic 'insight':



""The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other."" - allegedly Albert Pike to Giuseppe Mazzini, 1871

There are references to this throughout the forum, but a source can be found here (https://www.news24.com/news24/albert-pike-the-3-world-wars-20130628)

[Ravenlocke]

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Palestine–Israel: what is known at 18:00 Moscow time⚡️

— The death toll of Palestinians has risen to 370, with 2,200 injured, the Ministry of Health said. Israeli losses were 650 killed and 2,156 wounded.

— The IDF is moving heavy equipment to the Gaza Strip for ground operations, and to the northern border to repel a possible invasion from Lebanon.

— IDF aircraft continue to strike the Gaza Strip. According to the latest reports, the headquarters of the National Islamic Bank was attacked.

— Residents of northern Israeli settlements are being urged to evacuate due to a possible invasion.

— Hamas has not announced the exact number of hostages, as promised this morning.

— The Lebanese army announced Israeli attacks on its territory. The IDF also reported missile and drone launches from Lebanese territory.

— Hamas announced the start of mass shelling of Israeli territory at 18:00 and called on Hezbollah to join.

(wargonzo)

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[Delight]

I was a little surprised by The responses like this one from RFK Jr.

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Hatred seems to be misting the planet. Jordan Peterson feeling it too.

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/thesiriusreport/status/1710954357083058687

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Gaza is an appalling situation and the treatment and living conditions of Palestinians there is reprehensible.

However the idea that Hamas is the solution to the plight of the Palestinian people is ludicrous. The reality is they prolong the problem and give "justification" to an Israeli response which has consistently proved to be very damaging to the Palestinian people.

This is a highly complex problem with seeming no resolution. I would beg to differ and certainly violence compounded upon violence on both sides is never going to be the answer.

It's time the West stopped getting involved and let the regional powers find solutions to their regional problems.

https://x.com/thesiriusreport/status/1710980828895867215
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Let's deal with realities here. Take off the binary gloves and consider the current predicament the Palestinian people find themselves in.

Israel has declared war against Hamas. What happens now if Israel razes Gaza to the ground as it has alluded too?

What happens to 2m Palestinians who would then be refugees?

How has Hamas's recent actions helped the Palestinian people in that context?

Does anyone seriously imagine that increasing resistance to Israeli actions via acts of violence is going to curb Israeli responses? Sadly wrt Gaza we might be about to find out how disproportionate their response might be.

This is not a binary problem with 0 and 1 solutions. There has to be another way because the binary approach had clearly failed. We are dealing with something of immense complexity.
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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1710912993146384575

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[Delight]

David Icke has been right in so many cases....

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

So don't try and say how lovely and life-affirming the Palestinians, Iranians, and the Taliban are...

I agree, there is no 'good' here, and no 'right' side.

Both sides are driven by an intense and ancient hatred of the other. Israel because they see the Palestinians as squatters on their land. The pockets of Israel the Muslim Palestinians now occupy only really came into being when the Rashidun Caliphate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate) brutally conquered the Levant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levant) (essentially what is now the Middle East, including Israel) in the 7th century. But going back to the Canaanites, it had been Jewish land for millennia...

In their long history the Jews have been invaded, subjugated, used, abused and slaughtered by the Babylonians, Egyptians, Romans, Byzantines, then the Muslims, then Christian Crusaders, then the Ottomans -- then the Nazis. The Zionist movement was born out of all this death, horror and upheaval, and you can sort of understand why they "hate".

The Palestinians for their part have been treated, since the beginning of this movement, like second-class citizens -- lower than that. Some have called Gaza the largest open-air prison in the world, and you can see why. And you can also see, historically speaking, why they agitate against Israel for an independent Palestine. Because their claim is also ancient; it's ingrained in their history, culture and tradition. With the quite ghastly living conditions forced on them by their Jewish overlords, you can understand their hatred too.

So there is no "right" side, not in this battle. It's hatred versus hatred, and it's been simmering for centuries. When hate reaches this dire extreme people aren't even people anymore, they're just something to be exterminated.

I don't believe Israel was caught with its pants down here. It seems highly likely they "allowed" Hamas to strike as hard as they did, as it served as a pretext for war -- a war that they themselves desired. A war, perhaps, to eradicate Palestine altogether, even drive them out of Jerusalem. The ultimate goal [just speculating here]: to return the Temple Mount to Jewish hands (there is a prophecy that the "new" temple must be built on the mount before the last days can take place.)

For all the blood about to be spilt, this is yet another sad day on planet Earth. If not quickly resolved this could turn into something very dreadful.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1711011350749868290

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Context.

Two main reasons.

1. Bibi showing his 'New Middle East' map at the UN completely erasing Palestine.

2. Serial provocations at Al-Aqsa, including a storming by hundreds of Israeli settlers.

Al-Aqsa is a definitive red line - for Palestinians, for the Arab world, and for the lands of Islam.

Yet there's WAY more.

The dead giveaway is the Israeli rhetoric of a 'Pearl Harbor'.

Everyone knows what it means.

Project Ukraine is dead.

So the Masters of the Universe need a new war ("on terror") to set West Asia on fire.

Peaceful West Asia means reconstruction for Syria, redevelopment for Iraq and Lebanon, Iran and Saudi Arabia as part of BRICS 11, the Russia-China strategic partnership respected and engaged all across West Asia.

The Northern Sea Route is already in effect, directly undermining the Suez Canal.

One of the key themes discussed at Valdai at the highest level was de-dollarization.

All of the above is anathema for the usual suspects.

Mossad and IDF caught by surprise is childish fantasy. They knew it was coming.

The question now is whether Hezbollah will be coming to town.

https://x.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1710925207769063627

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[Tintin]

From Pepe Escobar on Twitter (https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1711053604281352550):

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YOU WANT HEAVY METAL? THIS IS HEAVY METAL

From one of my top Deep State sources. Highest level. 100% reliable for over two decades.

Excerpts of our latest exchange:

NUCLEAR BOMBING

"I was having dinner with *** where we were discussing the effect of the dropping of a nuclear bomb on a nation. He said it would take three nuclear bombs to overthrow the US Government. One for the state of Israel."

YOM KIPPUR WAR

"I was having dinner with X the very powerful billionaire with a high official of Israel discussing the Yom Kippur War under Golda Meir. He was a close advisor to every Israeli leader. The problem was that Israel ran out of ammunition and President Nixon cut Israel off from the resupply. Golda then threatened to send her nuclear missiles against Russia who would blame the US for the strike and the US would be destroyed. Nixon relented."

UKRAINE WEAPONS IN PALESTINE

"Ukraine weapons are ending up in the hands of the Palestinians. The question is which country is paying for it. Iran just made a deal with the US for six billion dollars and it is unlikely Iran would jeopardize that. I have a source who gave me the name of the country but I cannot reveal it. The fact is that Ukrainian weapons are going to the Gaza Strip and they are being paid for but not by Iran."

AL-AQSA

"A NKVD general predicted that if the Israelis tampered with the holy shrine of Al-Aqsa it would lead to its end. He was presented by Putin with a gold watch. He sat next to Milosevic at Dayton as his chief advisor. The Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman was his protege."

Enjoy doing the math.
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[Ernie Nemeth]

Mark:
don't believe Israel was caught with its pants down here. It seems highly likely they "allowed" Hamas to strike as hard as they did, as it served as a pretext for war -- a war that they themselves desired. A war, perhaps, to eradicate Palestine altogether, even drive them out of Jerusalem. The ultimate goal [just speculating here]: to return the Temple Mount to Jewish hands (there is a prophecy that the "new" temple must be built on the mount before the last days can take place.)

For all the blood about to be spilt, this is yet another sad day on planet Earth. If not quickly resolved this could turn into something very dreadful.


I would contend that the same hand is playing both sides, as has always been the case.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1710767356341842358

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
🇹🇷🇵🇸🇮🇱 Recep Tayyip Erdogan outlined his position on the conflict in Israel: The state of Palestine should be created within the 1967 borders.

“The establishment of an independent Palestinian state, within the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as its capital, is an irreversible necessity that can no longer be delayed.”

The 1967 borders are the borders before the Six Day War. Then, in particular, eastern Jerusalem (the old city and the main shrines) and the western bank of the Jordan River were under Arab control. These territories were occupied by Israel during the war.

And the issue of borders is still one of the main stumbling blocks.

In 2020, for example, Trump presented a peace project that included the creation of a Palestinian state within reduced borders without control over most of East Jerusalem.

Israel supported this plan. But
but the Palestinians and Arab countries flatly refused, repeating their position - Palestine only within the 1967 borders with the capital in east Jerusalem.

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[Ravenlocke]

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/KitKlarenberg/status/1711037918385512580

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Her colonist mindset is very clear, and it's important to stress I absolutely do *not* share her view of Palestinians. However, also important to note this operation would've entailed an enormous amount of planning, and an enormous amount of people being in the loop. The people involved also apparently had the time and inclination to produce a slick, promotional video detailing *exactly* what they were planning to do (see below). I have been involved in pro-Palestinian activism for almost two decades, and during that time I've not only witnessed Israel repeatedly provoke Hamas into carrying out "rocket" attacks that are then exploited to justify torpedoing peace negotiations, and genocidally carpet bombing the Occupied Territories, but also learned quite a bit about Israeli surveillance methods and technology. Among them, silent surveillance drones the size of insects, which are used to perpetually monitor the movements and statements of suspected freedom fighters. The odds of Israeli intelligence not having any idea this was coming are effectively zero. Some have attributed the stunning success of this operation to Israeli complacency and hubris. Well, what if that complacency and hubris encouraged Tel Aviv to allow the attack to happen, and gravely underestimate its scale and likelihood of success? Given Netanyahu's domestic political problems, and the recent purge of Artsakh, an event unifying Israelis and Tel Aviv's Western backers and justifying a literally killer blow against the Palestinians couldn't have come at a better time.

https://x.com/KitKlarenberg/status/1711068871975669885

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[Ravenlocke]

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[Arcturian108]

I have spent 3 months in Israel working on a border kibbutz many years ago, when Israel's border in the northeast was the Jordan River, and soldiers were permanently on rotation living on the kibbutz. In March of 2020 I returned to Israel for the first time since that earlier stay, but this time the Covid plandemic was nipping at our heels.

My Kibbutz stay was an eye opener in the sense that I was an American Jewess who was quite idealistic, a peacenik, and horrified by the hardened, cynical attitude of most Israelis regarding any possibility of peace with the Palestinians, or the larger Arab world. Since then, we have seen the Abraham Accords do a workaround the Palestinian intransience towards the existence of Israel. And the American media never gave these Accords their full due because they were accomplished under Trump.

Between the time of my earlier stay in Israel, and my recent short visit, I have given much thought to why Israelis were in a forever war, and have come to the following conclusions. First, most Israelis today do not have European backgrounds, as only 31% of Israelis are Ashkenazi Jews, originating from Eastern Europe. The majority of Israelis have Mizrahi or Sephardi backgrounds, meaning they are either North African Jews, originating from Egypt, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and other Arabic countries, and Spain. Secondly, Israel has 9 million people, while the rest of the Arab/Muslim world has 400 million people. Israel is swimming in an Arab/Muslim sea, where the consciousness of that Arab/Muslim community is quick to anger based upon its historical cultural tendencies. That leads to militancy which is new to Jewish culture, but I feel that the surrounding consciousness has absorbed Israeli consciousness quite fully, resulting in a mirror reflection of that part of the world. And remember that two-thirds of Israel's population have ancient roots in Arab/Muslim countries.

Now, my personal opinion regarding the Hamas attack that began yesterday is that both Israel and the United States, were responsible for letting it happen, if not directly orchestrating it. My current thoughts as to why has to do with the waning interest in America and Europe for supporting Ukraine in its war with Russia. If the globalist's want a long, destabilizing war that would be supported by many Americans, Israel vs. the Muslim world is a much better fit.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1710983558825681184

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https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1711058616369779125

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[SilentFeathers]

Mark:
don't believe Israel was caught with its pants down here. It seems highly likely they "allowed" Hamas to strike as hard as they did, as it served as a pretext for war -- a war that they themselves desired. A war, perhaps, to eradicate Palestine altogether, even drive them out of Jerusalem. The ultimate goal [just speculating here]: to return the Temple Mount to Jewish hands (there is a prophecy that the "new" temple must be built on the mount before the last days can take place.)

For all the blood about to be spilt, this is yet another sad day on planet Earth. If not quickly resolved this could turn into something very dreadful.


I would contend that the same hand is playing both sides, as has always been the case.

Sadly, very few on this planet understand the depth of the deception and manipulation blanketing the planet, especially the amount of it just in the last decade.

In my opinion there's nothing Israel can do that will "quickly resolve" the situation. Any attack in Gaza will surely involve killing civilians, women and children. (It's probably already happening now and will only get worse).

The war hawk globalists are already jumping up and down with joy as they see their lust for destroying Iran quickly becoming reality now. There's no way China and Russia will allow Iran to be destroyed. Turkey is also caught between a rock and a hard place.

I'm no expert but I see all hell breaking loose VERY soon. This, the Middle East, is the true tinder box..... WW3????? it was never about Ukraine, Ukraine is just a huge bank very good at laundering money.

I don't want to be all negative about this, but the timing of this and the severity of all the possible outcomes look VERY dark to me, I see no way this can work out peacefully.

One thing very few are talking about is about the approx. 2 million or more young males that have entered the US via the Mexico border in the last few years.....soon they will also be "told" to pick a side.

Over the last few years I've seen nothing getting "fixed", I've only seen more and more things becoming broken....

[Eva2]

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[Bill Ryan]

I'm no expert but I see all hell breaking loose VERY soon. This, the Middle East, is the true tinder box..... WW3????? it was never about Ukraine, Ukraine is just a huge bank very good at laundering money.

I don't want to be all negative about this, but the timing of this and the severity of all the possible outcomes look VERY dark to me, I see no way this can work out peacefully. I'm no expert either, for sure. But I do feel myself agreeing with everything you say. :flower:

The only thing I might add, which has already been suggested by many commenters, is that while this was no 'false flag' the Hamas attack may very well have been allowed (and even quietly encouraged) to happen.

If so, one reason for this might be to divert attention from the rapidly foundering Ukraine fiasco. Another might be to justify Israel finally destroying Gaza, as a number of people who should know better have already been cheering about and seemingly looking forward to. A third, darker still, might be to deliberately start WW3... not in Europe or Asia, but in the Middle East.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/mazzenilsson/status/1711086721763365227?s=20

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🇺🇸 🇮🇱 🇵🇸 SecDef announces he has directed the movement of the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group to the Eastern Mediterranean, a show of force after Hamas attacks on Israel.

He has also taken steps to augment U.S. Air Force F-35, F-15, F-16, & A-10 squadrons in the regions

In addition, the US will be rapidly providing the Israel Defense Forces with additional equipment and resources, including munitions. The first security assistance will begin moving today and arriving in the coming days. - Pentagon Correspondent for Politico, Laura Seligman

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https://x.com/dana916/status/1711075198382862816

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https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1711074767892001261

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🇷🇺🇮🇱🇵🇸 A Russian hacker group known by the name of Killnet has a message for Israel:

"Israeli government, you are responsible for this bloodshed. Back in 2022, you supported the terrorist regime in Ukraine. You betrayed Russia. Today, Killnet officially informs you of this! All government systems of Israel will be subject to our attacks!"

antinatocoalition

https://x.com/dana916/status/1711070947979952429

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https://x.com/dana916/status/1711049075334775012

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/rulajebreal/status/1711082042899751288

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[Ravenlocke]

2014 same year as the Maidan coup…

https://x.com/Malinka1102/status/1710736197184582077

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[SilentFeathers]

I'm no expert but I see all hell breaking loose VERY soon. This, the Middle East, is the true tinder box..... WW3????? it was never about Ukraine, Ukraine is just a huge bank very good at laundering money.

I don't want to be all negative about this, but the timing of this and the severity of all the possible outcomes look VERY dark to me, I see no way this can work out peacefully. I'm no expert either, for sure. But I do feel myself agreeing with everything you say. :flower:

The only thing I might add, which has already been suggested by many commenters, is that while this was no 'false flag' the Hamas attack may very well have been allowed (and even quietly encouraged) to happen.

If so, one reason for this might be to divert attention from the rapidly foundering Ukraine fiasco. Another might be to justify Israel finally destroying Gaza, as a number of people who should know better have already been cheering about and seemingly looking forward to. A third, darker still, might be to deliberately start WW3... not in Europe or Asia, but in the Middle East.

I think the money tree is being chopped down in Ukraine so to speak....
Also, I don't think Israel will be "allowed" to completely destroy Gaza. I imagine within a week or so the media will be totally against Israel and showing the world nothing but war crimes being committed by Israel. It's pretty much impossible for Israel to bomb any "military target" in Gaza without killing civilians.
Sadly, your 3rd darker point makes the most sense. There's no quicker way to stir up a hornets nest and bring the world closer to WW3 than to have Israel killing Muslims/Arabs regardless the reason for them to do so....

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/haniefhaider/status/1711058055792631858

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[Bill Ryan]

Sadly, your 3rd darker point makes the most sense. There's no quicker way to stir up a hornets nest and bring the world closer to WW3 that to have Israel killing Muslims/Arabs regardless the reason for them to do so....Alex Jones agrees, also stating (as many others have) that there's no way Mossad didn't know this was coming. He also expresses his certainty that Iran is behind all this — having become emboldened because they now have nuclear weapons. (Read that again. :worried:)

This Infowars broadcast was 24 hours ago:

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[Eva2]

Netanyahu Tells Gaza Residents To Clear Out, Says IDF "Will Use All Its Strength" To "Destroy" Hamas

Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, OCT 07, 2023 - 03:35 PM
Update (1835ET): Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned residents of Gaza to "leave now, because we will operate forcefully everywhere."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-state-war-hamas-after-palestinian-militants-launch-unprecedented-incursion?fbclid=IwAR0ZIqJCyigveKMJeKUq5IIekuojoBdWFTXnAsb8nx5GIK68RC0DqSSN21Q

Long article from Israeli news with videos showing brutality of attacks which can be accessed at the link above.

[Ami]

Many of the Islamic migrants in Europe will take offense when inevitably some European politicans (or other countries leaders) are pro Israel. Or when some segments of the general population side with Israel. I wonder if the migrants will start trouble in what ever country they have immigrated to... which might have been the greater plan along.

[norman]

Netanyahu Tells Gaza Residents To Clear Out, Says IDF "Will Use All Its Strength" To "Destroy" Hamas

Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, OCT 07, 2023 - 03:35 PM
Update (1835ET): Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned residents of Gaza to "leave now, because we will operate forcefully everywhere."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-state-war-hamas-after-palestinian-militants-launch-unprecedented-incursion?fbclid=IwAR0ZIqJCyigveKMJeKUq5IIekuojoBdWFTXnAsb8nx5GIK68RC0DqSSN21Q

Long article from Israeli news with videos showing brutality of attacks which can be accessed at the link above.

Ukraine was supposed to be a bigger 'Israel', but . . . .

https://img.jagranjosh.com/images/2021/May/2052021/greater%20Israel.jpg

[Sirus]

So many accounts on Twitter saying that the rapes, kidnappings and murders of civilians done by Hamas were justified.

Regardless of whether this is a false flag or similar contrivance, someone who can hold the above view is an individual who would better society by their absence. It reeks of the same sort of pro-vaxxers and anti-trumpers who hide their evil beneath a veneer of righteousness.

[Bill Ryan]

Netanyahu Tells Gaza Residents To Clear Out, Says IDF "Will Use All Its Strength" To "Destroy" Hamas

Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, OCT 07, 2023 - 03:35 PM
Update (1835ET): Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned residents of Gaza to "leave now, because we will operate forcefully everywhere."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-state-war-hamas-after-palestinian-militants-launch-unprecedented-incursion
Long article from Israeli news with videos showing brutality of attacks which can be accessed at the link above.To my surprise, Zero Hedge is clearly (in my opinion) propagandizing on Israel's behalf. It wasn't in any way a careful, balanced report. I wasn't expecting that. :flower:

Meanwhile. Alex Christoforou, who often plays goofball in his own videos and is very much the second string in The Duran's daily and most excellent presentations with Alexander Mercouris, has a very interesting summary analysis, just posted. The first half of his 40 minute update addresses the events in Israel.

He suggests a possibility I'd not thought of and which I've not seen elsewhere, that this may have been allowed to happen because it could place a huge wedge between Iran and Saudi Arabia, potentially damaging or stalling BRICS+. Of course, that would be very much to the west's advantage.

He also points out, I think correctly so far, that this has the potential to unify the west far more than the Ukraine issue has. We've already seen reported on this thread the immediate pro-Israel, warmongering responses from RFK Jr and Donald Trump. Viktor Orban has now echoed the same strong pro-Israel statements. That surprised me, too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYhRJeu7Fs

[SilentFeathers]

Sadly, your 3rd darker point makes the most sense. There's no quicker way to stir up a hornets nest and bring the world closer to WW3 that to have Israel killing Muslims/Arabs regardless the reason for them to do so....Alex Jones agrees, also stating (as many others have) that there's no way Mossad didn't know this was coming. He also expresses his certainty that Iran is behind all this — having become emboldened because they now have nuclear weapons. (Read that again. :worried:)



Nothing good is going to come from all of this, that is for sure. Even if Iran does have these weapons, I don't think they'd use them without the permission and knowing they had the complete backing of Russia and China. (I would hope I'm right about that!!!!)

What is really concerning me right now is the flood of people over the US southern border these last few years. I've been watching this happen and the majority of these "migrants" have been young adult males. I saw a number just last week that there's been over 2 million since Biden took office. No one really knows the true number, but if just 1% of the 2 million are actually fighters, thats 20,000 fighters. They can do a lot of damage here in a similar attack and it's ludicrous to think that something like that can't happen here.

The time is now to really pay attention to everything that is going on, at home and abroad.....

[Paul D.]

10 Downing St. tonight .

[Jeksey]

Many of the Islamic migrants in Europe will take offense when inevitably some European politicans (or other countries leaders) are pro Israel. Or when some segments of the general population side with Israel. I wonder if the migrants will start trouble in what ever country they have immigrated to... which might have been the greater plan along.

I am absolutely glad you shared this input of yours here. I thought about this last night and was pretty scared.

The EU supports Israel, yes. As per the usual, completely ignoring the atrocities Israel has commited, the support is strong. But there are so many, SO MANY, muslims in Europe specifically in the heart of Europe - Germany and France - that things are just bound to go awry. The flow of immigrants is also not stopping, as a matter of fact it is increasing. The floods in Libya, the earthquake in Afghanistan and now this. Quite possibly there will be some other event which will bring even more refugees towards Europe.

The way I personally see the situation: Very soon there will be dramatic clashes in Europe (akin to those we saw recently in France, whatever happened to those btw?) because of this ongoing conflict. These clashes, combined with the "re-emerging" of covid, will force the governments to do the only things they know how to do: Segregate, isolate and completely mishandle any crisis.

To what end? Complete and final destabilization of an already destabilized Europe. I see unfortunately no other alternative. In short I do believe that a part of the greater plan is to destabilize Europe with the sole exception of Poland possibly, which has become the USA's main satellite there.

[ErtheVessel]

I know virtually nothing about the history of the politics of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict, in spite of the fact that they have been in the news from time to time most of my life. The whole thing seems profoundly complicated to me with nuances and histories that I could not possibly grasp as an outsider. However, I certainly smell a rat somewhere. As others have said, there is no way the Mossad could not have known about this. No way.

In any case, I came across this map today and thought it was instructive for someone like me who is just learning about the conflict between these two peoples.

https://www.palestineportal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Maps_1897-Present.jpg

It comes from this website:
https://www.palestineportal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Maps_1897-Present.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

I know virtually nothing about the history of the politics of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict, in spite of the fact that they have been in the news from time to time most of my life. The whole thing seems profoundly complicated to me with nuances and histories that I could not possibly grasp as an outsider. However, I certainly smell a rat somewhere. As others have said, there is no way the Mossad could not have known about this. No way.

In any case, I came across this map today and thought it was instructive for someone like me who is just learning about the conflict between these two peoples.

https://www.palestineportal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Maps_1897-Present.jpg

It comes from this website:
https://www.palestineportal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Maps_1897-Present.jpgMany thanks, as always, for your most thoughtful (and honest! :flower:) posts.

:heart:

The history is labyrinthine and filled for 75 years with truly terrible things. The ingrained hatred, which is now almost a genetically inherited thing (and maybe it is!), seems impossible to eradicate.

That hatred is already visible everywhere on social media, even from those with a leadership role who should know better. And as we can see already from the many images of illuminated buildings in the 'west' and the Arab worlds, everyone is now choosing a side, and they're doing it very quickly and clearly too.

As best I can see right now, only three major entities are advocating a ceasefire and immediate dialog: Russia, China, and the African Union.

Everyone else wants war. And with that many voices rooting for war, both on the streets and in the many countries' governments, it's going to be very hard to stop this escalating — conceivably with the most devastating consequences.

[ErtheVessel]

Thanks, Bill. :)

The rapid global taking-sides phenomena might possibly be an intended consequence of this terrible conflict.

[Bill Ryan]

Two quotes worth recording. (There are many many more!)

https://efrat.substack.com/p/israel-hamas-war-an-update
I served in the IDF 25 years ago, in the intelligence forces.
There’s no way Israel did not know of what’s coming.
A cat moving alongside the fence is triggering all forces. So this??
What happened to the “strongest army in the world”?
How come border crossings were wide open??
Something is VERY WRONG HERE, something is very strange, this chain of events is very unusual and not typical for the Israeli defense system.
https://twitter.com/Dr_logicaI/status/1710794054953553927
Ex-IDF soldier explains that the events that took place today are impossible. She was a border observer with the highest tech available.
"If a bird came close we knew."
"If even a cockroach came to our fenced border we knew."
"How did 400 Hamas pass through today?"

[pyrangello]

So this is a really good roundtable with 3 special forces guys who are looking at this situation. Which leads into what Bill listed above , they are saying the same thing that this was all staged.

Michael Jaco: Military Update - What’s Going On in Israel? Heading to DEFCON 1?? (Video)

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2023/10/michael-jaco-military-update-whats-going-on-in-israel-heading-to-defcon-1-video-3800510.html

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[SilentFeathers]

Sadly, your 3rd darker point makes the most sense. There's no quicker way to stir up a hornets nest and bring the world closer to WW3 that to have Israel killing Muslims/Arabs regardless the reason for them to do so....Alex Jones agrees, also stating (as many others have) that there's no way Mossad didn't know this was coming. He also expresses his certainty that Iran is behind all this — having become emboldened because they now have nuclear weapons. (Read that again. :worried:)



Nothing good is going to come from all of this, that is for sure. Even if Iran does have these weapons, I don't think they'd use them without the permission and knowing they had the complete backing of Russia and China. (I would hope I'm right about that!!!!)

What is really concerning me right now is the flood of people over the US southern border these last few years. I've been watching this happen and the majority of these "migrants" have been young adult males. I saw a number just last week that there's been over 2 million since Biden took office. No one really knows the true number, but if just 1% of the 2 million are actually fighters, thats 20,000 fighters. They can do a lot of damage here in a similar attack and it's ludicrous to think that something like that can't happen here.

The time is now to really pay attention to everything that is going on, at home and abroad.....

I'm not the only one being extremely concerned about this possibility. I've just spent the last hour surfing through X/Twitter and there are numerous threads with many people speaking about this open border issue and possible attacks here inside the US.

I really hate to sound like downer debbie, but, I personally believe we are highly likely to see some type of attack within the US rather sooner than later. Just like the attack in Israel, this is also looking like it is being allowed to happen....

Pro-Palestinian and Pro Israeli protests are already being organized to start here in the US and basically across Europe this coming week. I've seen clips of these protest on both sides happening already in New York City. This is already escalating from an Israeli/Hamas issue to a global issue.

This is all rather sickening in my opinion. I've got a really bad feeling deep in my soul about all of this.

[pyrangello]

BOOM! Turkey Enters Israel-Palestine Fight -- Warns U.S. to STAY OUT
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/boom-turkey-enters-israel-palestine-fight-warns-u-s-to-stay-out

From Me- If your from the United States and you have never been overseas to travel none of us have any idea what it is to have one country say to another ect ect. Not many here have a perspective that cultures, languages and currency all change within crossing a border. Were so use to here in the states going from Ohio to Kentucky and just seeing a road sign saying your in another state. It is literally a culture shock to see how just a border of a country changes from one to another and they are right next door to each other. As with Turkey making this statement above , all the countries are taking their positions now just like a chess game only this is real real. Playtime is over with and if this keeps escalating many are in for a culture shock in countries like the U.S.

And yes silent feathers your right on if things let loose here in the states with all the elements crossing the border, it could be very chaotic in 1 hour. We have no idea who have come across and the sleeper cells within our society. Thats what my last post discusses as well with the 3 special force guys.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/haniefhaider/status/1711058055792631858

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https://x.com/colonelhomsi/status/1711001550070390944

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[Satori]

So this is a really good roundtable with 3 special forces guys who are looking at this situation. Which leads into what Bill listed above , they are saying the same thing that this was all staged.

Michael Jaco: Military Update - What’s Going On in Israel? Heading to DEFCON 1?? (Video)

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2023/10/michael-jaco-military-update-whats-going-on-in-israel-heading-to-defcon-1-video-3800510.html

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Bump. Excellent conversation by some guys who have been there and done that. Heed their words. Please.

[Arcturian108]

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Former Israeli Defense Force soldier telling it like it is:

[Ravenlocke]

The way I personally see the situation: Very soon there will be dramatic clashes in Europe (akin to those we saw recently in France, whatever happened to those btw?)


https://x.com/mazzenilsson/status/1711150528615313408

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/AmirAminiMD/status/1711067842806694286

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[Gwin Ru]

...

... balanced and incisive analysis of the reported events:

Tragedy and Fantastical Narrative (https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b/tragedy-and-fantastical-narrative:0) 50:44

October 9, 2023

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(https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b)@RoystonPotter
(https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b)
An expansion on my last livestream (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Hamas-the-Middle-East-at-War&p=1580865&viewfull=1#post1580865) concerning developments in the ME.


@RoystonPotter:b/tragedy-and-fantastical-narrative:0

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1710836487061688669

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https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1710841386671501645

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[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1711118717982061022

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[Dennis Leahy]

Hahaha hilarious title on this thread. This is a war in the same way as an MMA trained fighter with machine guns and machetes against a toddler with a cookie!

[Dennis Leahy]

Just to share some thoughts as an Israeli:


The news is massively under-reporting this internally and playing this off as as failure of our government, which is a bit ridiculous. Israel has one of the most sophisticated human intelligence networks so I don't see how this wasn't picked up on. On telegram (thanks @Syzmon for sharing) you can see hundreds of Gazans crossing the border with next to no military response. This seems reminiscent of 9/11 with the orders to stand down when the military should have been acting with a much faster response time. I have family living in one of the settlement bordering Gaza and happened to see my Aunt there a few days ago who mentioned that she has seen a large amount of activity nearby that when she reported to the military was told not to worry as it was just Hamas 'training'.
Videos surfacing that I've seen show tens of soldiers dead and by my rough count 10+ soldiers captured - for Israeli society this is a massive blow to morale.
The timing of this shouldn't be lost on us - Israel has been in a crisis for the last 6-9 months facing the biggest internal schism since it's formation with polarization between right-left so it isn't too far fetched that TPTB would invite a traumatic event like this bring everyone back in line; let's deal with our security first and getting our troops home and THEN we'll deal with those silly freedoms and basic rights
With the extreme nationalist government in power, this is the perfect foundation for a mass-casualty event hitting Gaza. Jewish extremists have become more vocal and and belligerent lately knowing they are above the law. Once the sabbath is over in Israel I'm expecting there to be a significant retaliatory incident against the Arab residents of the West Bank... the army/police haven't done much to stop them lately and now will even be less so inclined to do so.



Libico, I think these are extremely honest and correct observations, and from an insider! I wish you safe passage to The Netherlands!

It has been very much the M.O. of Israel to goad a reaction and then overreact, pushing forward their plan to annihilate Palestinians and steal all of Palestine. "Slow motion genocide." Three steps forward, one step back.

Israel controls everything going into Palestine, from food and medicine to cement. But somehow, somehow, there is suddenly a Palestinian Air Force of untralight powered gliders? A thousand rockets? Right!

The CIA and Mossad created alQaeda in Syria, recruited, trained, armed them, gave satellite tactical advice, supplies, and reloaded their ammunition. The zealots and schmucks in alQaeda probably had no clue that they were just stooges. I suspect the same here - Hamas was probably infiltrated and controlled by the Mossad. Now, the 98% of Palestinians that are not part of Hamas will pay, with their lives. This is the biggest excuse for Israel to crush Palestine, ever. If Palestine isn't 100% wiped off the map, then the Israeli mlitary will occupy into all that is left of Palestine, and do what the American military did in Iraq: drag every male out of their house and execute them as "insurgents." I could also see Israel launching nuclear missiles into Iran, blaming Iran for Hamas. The Israeli deep state caused this, I'd bet a lot of shekels!

[gini]

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[Dennis Leahy]

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I see targeting of civilians, which would not be militarily strategic by Hamas. Very strange tactic, very suspicious, Palestinians could not possibly gain anything from this. However, it is excellent strategy for Mossad, to rally Israel and crush Palestine.

I also see the missile damage on the road must have involved some sort of sophisticated targeting systems, not old USA-made shells repaired and reused or pipe bomb rockets. There is no way on earth that Hamas was able to target all of the cars on that road with such deadly accuracy using homemade and repurposed shells as rockets. No way.

It looks as if the entire thing was orchestrated by Mossad. Strong similarities to 9/11, where the US Air Force and NORAD let it all happen.

(I have always been on the Palestinians side, and have watched the Israeli military and Mossad commit horrific acts - from target-practice sniper murders to spraying Palestinian villages with raw sewage to cutting down olive orchards to bulldozing Rachel Corrie trying to protect a Palestinian home. I have never seen the PLO or Hamas waging war on a bunch of civilians - it has usually been a homemade rocket or two shot uncontrollably at Israel - landing wherever. I certainly do not condone massacring civilians and simply cannot believe that what we are seeing is actually orchestrated by Hamas as there is no way they could "win" anything, and they would know that the retaliation will be enormous and devastating. Goodbye Palestine.

[gini]

VM9nwrSFVMM--7 min--Israel Declares War on Hamas: What Happens to Saudi-Israel Peace Deal? | Vantage with Palki Sharma

As war clouds gather, has peace in West Asia been put on hold?

The Saudi Arabia-Israel normalisation deal was closed to being finalised.

As Israel declares war on Hamas, what happens to the peace deal?

Was this attack an attempt to derail the deal?

Palki Sharma tells you.

[gini]

Su04_DXOT1I--9 min--404,798 views Oct 9, 2023
The residents of the besieged enclave of Gaza faced a night of death and destruction as Israeli war planes launched a series of air strikes.

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday vowed to reduce Gaza “to rubble” after Hamas’ unprecedented attack.

Al Jazeera’s Michael Appel has this report.

Mouin Rabbani is non-resident Fellow at the Center for Conflict and Humanitarian Studies and Co-Editor of Jadaliyaa.
He joins us from Yerevan, Armenia.

[pounamuknight]

Cui bono? Some pundits reckon this tragedy will/may save Netanyahu's controversial political office (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532)

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He was deeply unpopular in polls (https://sputnikglobe.com/20230410/netanyahus-approval-rating-down-to-28-amid-judicial-fight-poll-1109322610.html) before this war. His shady and massively unpopular judicial reforms, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36CXkqFwULo) which he engineered to stop prosecutions against his power base, imo

Don't forget that the guy was in power during 911 when he said it was "very good" (https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/its-very-good-recalling-benjamin-netanyahus-words-day-911-attacks). I mean, some of this just doesn't add up... the "security failures" just like 911 :suspicious:

Condolences to Palestinian/Israeli/Human families caught up and suffering in the middle of this :candle:

[pyrangello]

If we could just hit pause for one moment and stop the tape. What was happening over 2 days ago, Netanyahu was in the ropes, Biden was on the ropes, his son too. The dollar and economy ready to crash, the economic reset getting ready to take place of the brics and quantum financial system.the federal reserve loosing billions and treasury bonds looking dimmer.

Now with the tape paused.....

Bankers make more money in 1 day of war than in 1 year of peace!

Think about that before we all hit the play button and continue this thread , I am astonished how fast in 2 days how things were to what's happening now.

Ok let's hit the play button .

[Libico]

Libico, I think these are extremely honest and correct observations, and from an insider! I wish you safe passage to The Netherlands!

It has been very much the M.O. of Israel to goad a reaction and then overreact, pushing forward their plan to annihilate Palestinians and steal all of Palestine. "Slow motion genocide." Three steps forward, one step back.

Israel controls everything going into Palestine, from food and medicine to cement. But somehow, somehow, there is suddenly a Palestinian Air Force of untralight powered gliders? A thousand rockets? Right!

The CIA and Mossad created alQaeda in Syria, recruited, trained, armed them, gave satellite tactical advice, supplies, and reloaded their ammunition. The zealots and schmucks in alQaeda probably had no clue that they were just stooges. I suspect the same here - Hamas was probably infiltrated and controlled by the Mossad. Now, the 98% of Palestinians that are not part of Hamas will pay, with their lives. This is the biggest excuse for Israel to crush Palestine, ever. If Palestine isn't 100% wiped off the map, then the Israeli mlitary will occupy into all that is left of Palestine, and do what the American military did in Iraq: drag every male out of their house and execute them as "insurgents." I could also see Israel launching nuclear missiles into Iran, blaming Iran for Hamas. The Israeli deep state caused this, I'd bet a lot of shekels!

Thanks Dennis - Hamas was actually created / allowed to thrive by Israel as a way to challenge Arafat's power but of course as they became more extreme and Israel had a chance to nip this in the bud but they didn't... having a rapid dog on your southern border is always a great thing for right wing politicians, for the paltry cost of a few civilian deaths each year they have a perpetual boogeyman hanging over the populace to keep the cycle of hatred and reliance on government going.

I too empathize greatly with the Palestinian people and the **** they have to go through every day. It sickens me seeing the amount of suffering and the majority of Israelis continue to live in a simplified existence of we are good and they are bad. They may give lip service saying yeah the situation is complicated, but in the end it's a very simple equation of how they see the world.

I've seen first hand humiliations and war crimes when I was a solider... at the time I'm ashamed to admit it didn't phase me, but that was part of my indoctrination (and the trauma post-2001 that led me to move to Israel to defend my people from the Islamist enemy), and even though it felt wrong I simply wasn't strong enough to deal with those feelings and go against the herd back then to say something.

I will say that Hamas fighters truly are barbaric on the same level as ISIS and al-Qaeda - they are 100% a product of their environment and culture that is not allowed to progress to a more advanced state due to trauma and circumstance... how many of them have lost fathers, mothers, siblings and children? I know that if I were Gazan and grew up in a constant state of fear from bombings, seeing a little brother blown up or crushed under rubble, having my father slapped by an Israeli soldier in front me, all the while growing up in abject poverty, 99% chance I would turn out the same way. The viciousness of their actions clearly demonstrate that for many of them their humanity has been broken and have finally been given a chance to lash out at anything that closely represents their oppressors.

Unfortunately I don't see a way out the current situation without erasing Hamas and giving the Palestinians the ability to govern themselves with leaders that aren''t fanatics... but that will involve even more death to Palestinian civilians as they are so enmeshed in their society and have no qualms about sacrificing half of Gaza for their agenda... and even if Hamas is wiped out, Hamas 2.0 will take their place since all that loss of life will radicalize the next group/generation.

I truly think the only way we can ever possibly move forward is if Israel and it's citizens recognize the horror that we have inflicted on Palestinians and make great strides to make amends and help them rebuild themselves starting from infrastructure, economy, education, and eventually true independence which involves ceding territories (a tough sell with fundamentalists making up a significant minority of our population). Even if that happens perfectly, it will be a precarious transition and take at least a generation or two for blood to cool down from both sides. But Israel isn't anywhere near ready to do that soul searching - maybe I'm wrong and once the anger has passed over this new war there will be true reflecting (after much death on both sides) but I think the victim/self-defense paradigm is so strong in Israel that it will be very difficult to break it - we need to able to set aside our anger and pain and take responsibility for our part in perpetuating this endless conflict. Trauma can sometimes break these paradigms - time will tell if this will be enough to do this.

Even Moshe Dayan, an ardent Zionist and one of Israel's founding leaders and military generals lived under no illusions of what we were doing to Palestinians - nowadays we just label everything as anti-semitism but what was said 60 years ago hold just as true today. I've copied an excerpt of a eulogy he gave for a settler that was murdered at the border of Gaza:

Yesterday with daybreak, Roi was murdered. The quiet of a spring morning blinded him, and he did not see the stalkers of his soul on the furrow. Let us not hurl blame at the murderers. Why should we complain of their hatred for us? Eight years have they sat in the refugee camps of Gaza, and seen, with their own eyes, how we have made a homeland of the soil and the villages where they and their forebears once dwelt.

[gini]

72UQj86Ssm4--13 min-Oct 9, 2023 #israel #israelpalestineconflict #gaza
Israel is at war with Hamas and more than 1,100 people have been killed on both sides since the war broke out on Saturday after Hamas reign thousands of rockets on Israel in a surprise pre-drawn attack from Gaza. Lately, the Israeli leadership have cautioned the nation for a long difficult War.

[Losus4]

Funny how all the world's media encourages Israel's retaliation, but when terror attacks happen in Europe we're fed meaningless platitudes that "Love, not hate" is the answer. Israel can bomb their enemies while weak Europeans are forced to hug theirs.

[jaybee]

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I see targeting of civilians, which would not be militarily strategic by Hamas. Very strange tactic, very suspicious, Palestinians could not possibly gain anything from this. However, it is excellent strategy for Mossad, to rally Israel and crush Palestine.

I also see the missile damage on the road must have involved some sort of sophisticated targeting systems, not old USA-made shells repaired and reused or pipe bomb rockets. There is no way on earth that Hamas was able to target all of the cars on that road with such deadly accuracy using homemade and repurposed shells as rockets. No way.

It looks as if the entire thing was orchestrated by Mossad. Strong similarities to 9/11, where the US Air Force and NORAD let it all happen.

(I have always been on the Palestinians side, and have watched the Israeli military and Mossad commit horrific acts - from target-practice sniper murders to spraying Palestinian villages with raw sewage to cutting down olive orchards to bulldozing Rachel Corrie trying to protect a Palestinian home. I have never seen the PLO or Hamas waging war on a bunch of civilians - it has usually been a homemade rocket or two shot uncontrollably at Israel - landing wherever. I certainly do not condone massacring civilians and simply cannot believe that what we are seeing is actually orchestrated by Hamas as there is no way they could "win" anything, and they would know that the retaliation will be enormous and devastating. Goodbye Palestine.


re the last two bolded words....

turning the Gaza Strip into rubble and then mopping up + removing the remaining Palestinians with a ground invasion is the easy part, militarily speaking......

dealing with the aftermath and the millions and millions of angry muslims in surrounding countries is not so easy - especially bearing in mind their beliefs about martyrdom and willingness to die for their cause... as a last resort I can even see millions of unarmed muslims arriving on foot from the surrounding area amassing on the Israel borders and then invading - sheer numbers giving them the advantage...

looking at a map of the area - Jordan is crucial to Israel's security and I had a quick look to see what the situation is there -

this article from August 2022 (https://www.newarab.com/analysis/where-jordans-relationship-israel-heading) says that....


As for Jordanian public opinion, Al Rantawi stresses that Jordanians are overwhelmingly united on this issue; around 87 percent of the population consider Israel to be the biggest threat to the Arab region's security and view Israel as a dangerous enemy.

I'm not taking sides with all these latest developments - but what I'm getting round to saying is that 'Goodbye Palestine' could be followed by Goodbye Israel....the question is are we going to forced into WW3 by the Globalists (neo Fascists) before this happens... although modern Israel is less than 80 years old they will not want to give it up - a while back I saw something about Israel being earmarked to be the Capital/Centre of the (proposed) One World Government .... haven't seen anything about that since but it could be relevant to the politics and destruction in the Middle East in recent years............?

[Tintin]

PLO or Hamas

There are gaps in my knowledge here, and some fairly considerable, but, I'm certain Hamas were funded and trained by US/Israel/Mossad as a deterrent to the PLO (?).

I need to dig further on that - super patchy there to be honest.

:focus:

[Tintin]

Libico, I think these are extremely honest and correct observations, and from an insider! I wish you safe passage to The Netherlands!

It has been very much the M.O. of Israel to goad a reaction and then overreact, pushing forward their plan to annihilate Palestinians and steal all of Palestine. "Slow motion genocide." Three steps forward, one step back.

Israel controls everything going into Palestine, from food and medicine to cement. But somehow, somehow, there is suddenly a Palestinian Air Force of untralight powered gliders? A thousand rockets? Right!

The CIA and Mossad created alQaeda in Syria, recruited, trained, armed them, gave satellite tactical advice, supplies, and reloaded their ammunition. The zealots and schmucks in alQaeda probably had no clue that they were just stooges. I suspect the same here - Hamas was probably infiltrated and controlled by the Mossad. Now, the 98% of Palestinians that are not part of Hamas will pay, with their lives. This is the biggest excuse for Israel to crush Palestine, ever. If Palestine isn't 100% wiped off the map, then the Israeli mlitary will occupy into all that is left of Palestine, and do what the American military did in Iraq: drag every male out of their house and execute them as "insurgents." I could also see Israel launching nuclear missiles into Iran, blaming Iran for Hamas. The Israeli deep state caused this, I'd bet a lot of shekels!

Thanks Dennis - Hamas was actually created / allowed to thrive by Israel as a way to challenge Arafat's power but of course as they became more extreme and Israel had a chance to nip this in the bud but they didn't... having a rapid dog on your southern border is always a great thing for right wing politicians, for the paltry cost of a few civilian deaths each year they have a perpetual boogeyman hanging over the populace to keep the cycle of hatred and reliance on government going.

I too empathize greatly with the Palestinian people and the **** they have to go through every day. It sickens me seeing the amount of suffering and the majority of Israelis continue to live in a simplified existence of we are good and they are bad. They may give lip service saying yeah the situation is complicated, but in the end it's a very simple equation of how they see the world.

I've seen first hand humiliations and war crimes when I was a solider... at the time I'm ashamed to admit it didn't phase me, but that was part of my indoctrination (and the trauma post-2001 that led me to move to Israel to defend my people from the Islamist enemy), and even though it felt wrong I simply wasn't strong enough to deal with those feelings and go against the herd back then to say something.

I will say that Hamas fighters truly are barbaric on the same level as ISIS and al-Qaeda - they are 100% a product of their environment and culture that is not allowed to progress to a more advanced state due to trauma and circumstance... how many of them have lost fathers, mothers, siblings and children? I know that if I were Gazan and grew up in a constant state of fear from bombings, seeing a little brother blown up or crushed under rubble, having my father slapped by an Israeli soldier in front me, all the while growing up in abject poverty, 99% chance I would turn out the same way. The viciousness of their actions clearly demonstrate that for many of them their humanity has been broken and have finally been given a chance to lash out at anything that closely represents their oppressors.

Unfortunately I don't see a way out the current situation without erasing Hamas and giving the Palestinians the ability to govern themselves with leaders that aren''t fanatics... but that will involve even more death to Palestinian civilians as they are so enmeshed in their society and have no qualms about sacrificing half of Gaza for their agenda... and even if Hamas is wiped out, Hamas 2.0 will take their place since all that loss of life will radicalize the next group/generation.

I truly think the only way we can ever possibly move forward is if Israel and it's citizens recognize the horror that we have inflicted on Palestinians and make great strides to make amends and help them rebuild themselves starting from infrastructure, economy, education, and eventually true independence which involves ceding territories (a tough sell with fundamentalists making up a significant minority of our population). Even if that happens perfectly, it will be a precarious transition and take at least a generation or two for blood to cool down from both sides. But Israel isn't anywhere near ready to do that soul searching - maybe I'm wrong and once the anger has passed over this new war there will be true reflecting (after much death on both sides) but I think the victim/self-defense paradigm is so strong in Israel that it will be very difficult to break it - we need to able to set aside our anger and pain and take responsibility for our part in perpetuating this endless conflict. Trauma can sometimes break these paradigms - time will tell if this will be enough to do this.

Even Moshe Dayan, an ardent Zionist and one of Israel's founding leaders and military generals lived under no illusions of what we were doing to Palestinians - nowadays we just label everything as anti-semitism but what was said 60 years ago hold just as true today. I've copied an excerpt of a eulogy he gave for a settler that was murdered at the border of Gaza:

Yesterday with daybreak, Roi was murdered. The quiet of a spring morning blinded him, and he did not see the stalkers of his soul on the furrow. Let us not hurl blame at the murderers. Why should we complain of their hatred for us? Eight years have they sat in the refugee camps of Gaza, and seen, with their own eyes, how we have made a homeland of the soil and the villages where they and their forebears once dwelt.

Thankyou :heart:

[I am B]

There is NO WAY the mossad didn't see this coming. They let it happen, let their own people suffer it, like the ones in the festival and in all those villages, just to be able to declare war and finally and completelly annex the whole gaza, and probably even the whole Palestine.

We're just moving closer and closer to a nuke going off in the middle east.

Shame for the savages in both sides and anyone defending it.

[gini]

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[Tintin]

Mirror site source: https://wikileaks.jcvignoli.com/cable_07TELAVIV1733#metadata

From June 2007 and probably the most immediately relevant historical reference to current goings on is this one although the whole memo/cable is worth viewing:



"Although not necessarily reflecting a GOI consensus view,
Yadlin said Israel would be "happy" if Hamas took over Gaza because the IDF could then deal with Gaza as a hostile state. He (Yadlin) dismissed the significance of an Iranian role in a Hamas-controlled Gaza "as long as they don't have a port."

By taking over Gaza I assume them to mean the predominant military resistance.

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/07TELAVIV1733_Wikileaks%20Diplomatic%20Cable_%20Military%20Intelligence%20Director%20Yadlin%20Commen ts%20On.pdf

[Bill Ryan]

Monday now, and so this week will be full of commentary and analysis (and invective, and propaganda, and hate :flower:). Quite a good start may be this interview, a Palestinian named Ali Abunimah talking to Danny Haiphong for just over 45 minutes.

Despite his name, Ali speaks 100% clear perfect English and sounds more British than American. He's measured, articulate, speaks slowly and carefully, and offers an excellent, detailed insight into the Palestinian perspective.

The section from 25:00—35:00 may in particular be interesting to those (e.g. Erthevessel (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?28423-ErtheVessel), see her post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Hamas-the-Middle-East-at-War&p=1580931#post1580931) :bearhug:) who are honest to admit they need to catch up on some of the important and bloody 75 year background to all this. As with the real history of the Ukrainian conflict, this really does need to be understood by us all.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xW5j7V0kZo

[Bill Ryan]

Hahaha hilarious title on this thread. This is a war in the same way as an MMA trained fighter with machine guns and machetes against a toddler with a cookie!Yes. :) I'd first merged Szymon's new thread with the existing Turmoil in Israel thread, and soon after realized that was definitely my mistake. So yesterday I UNmerged the thread, and recreated this new one with a provisional title. (We can easily amend that as events continue to unfold.)

While Israel has tanks, satellites, fighter-bombers and nuclear weapons, and Hamas has guns, hang gliders and small quadcopter drones, the potential for a major Middle East war is right there — if Hezbollah enters the fight from Lebanon, and (God help us all) maybe even Syria, Egypt and/or Iran.

It might just be a relative skirmish (in historical terms) which results in Gaza being razed to the ground by the retaliating Israelis. But if that were to happen, the Arab world, now smelling blood and Israeli weakness, might launch their own offensives. If that were to happen, then every bet would be off.

:flower:

[pyrangello]

I believe this is the orchestrated last ditch effort by the deep state to keep the petro dollar alive , chaos to pump the liquidity. Check out this which I think is very interesting, hang on this week , its going to be very interesting .
The Debt Clock is now quoting verses from Revelation!!
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/the-debt-clock-is-now-quoting-verses-from-revelation

[Brigantia]

I believe this is the orchestrated last ditch effort by the deep state to keep the petro dollar alive , chaos to pump the liquidity. Check out this which I think is very interesting, hang on this week , its going to be very interesting .
The Debt Clock is now quoting verses from Revelation!!
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/the-debt-clock-is-now-quoting-verses-from-revelation

Talking of petrodollars... one thing in the equation is that there are huge gas reserves off the shore of Gaza. This has been a hot potato between Israel and the people of Gaza since their discovery as to who would have the right to extract it. Also there are huge off-shore gas and oil reserves from the coast of Sinai all the way up to the coast of Syria.

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1711165367265964294?s=20

1711165367265964294



https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1711128021996814699?s=20

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updated:

https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1711356070566785347?s=20

1711356070566785347

[Gwin Ru]

...

... very concise summary from David Icke (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/david-icke-whats-really-happening-in-israel/):


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Therefore, the inevitable, hyper logical conclusion:


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... ooopppsss... wrong narrative... this one's more lucrative:


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[Sirus]

Hahaha hilarious title on this thread. This is a war in the same way as an MMA trained fighter with machine guns and machetes against a toddler with a cookie!Yes. :) I'd first merged Szymon's new thread with the existing Turmoil in Israel thread, and soon after realized that was definitely my mistake. So yesterday I UNmerged the thread, and recreated this new one with a provisional title. (We can easily amend that as events continue to unfold.)

While Israel has tanks, satellites, fighter-bombers and nuclear weapons, and Hamas has guns, hang gliders and small quadcopter drones, the potential for a major Middle East war is right there — if Hezbollah enters the fight from Lebanon, and (God help us all) maybe even Syria, Egypt and/or Iran.

It might just be a relative skirmish (in historical terms) which results in Gaza being razed to the ground by the retaliating Israelis. But if that were to happen, the Arab world, now smelling blood and Israeli weakness, might launch their own offensives. If that were to happen, then every bet would be off.

:flower:

News reports saying a different Hamas faction have entered Israel from Lebanon.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-retaliates-after-hamas-attacks-deaths-pass-1100-2023-10-09/

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1711391164639609218?s=20

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https://x.com/DavidBCollum/status/1711226042122186983?s=20

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https://x.com/VDHanson/status/1711174923220361268?s=20

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Victor Davis Hanson
@VDHanson
Israel, Our White-House Absurdities, and the Left’s Empire of Lies

The Biden administration is furiously trying to contextualize its past, unsupportable policies that have sown global chaos, especially in the Middle East. But the more it spins, the clearer its culpability.
Does it really believe that the long-agreed-upon U.S. green-lighting of $6 billion in sanctions relief to Iran has had no role in Iran’s terrorist support of Hamas, whether psychological or material or both? Do they think we are that stupid?

Even a first-grader might surmise that if a terrorist state knows that an impending $6-billion bonanza will shortly arrive in its coffers, then it will more readily in the here and now send arms to Hamas—on the logical assumption that those costs soon will be more than covered, while making the additional assumption that the United States is complicit in its own fungible use of sanctions relief cash, and thus not innately hostile to Tehran’s self-professed agenda. In short, Tony Blinken is either a naif, a fool, or to use his words “misinforming”.

These administration's megaphones who deny such fungibility always end up mouthing the same arguments as the lying and murderous theocracy in Tehran.

But then why not—given the Biden-appointed Robert Malley, previously known as Obama’s ISIS advisor (and we remember how that worked out in Iraq), and a self-declared expert on Hamas rapprochement, eagerly accepted the offer to restart the disastrous Iran deal and normalize Iranian-American relations?

And Malley was indeed eagerly at work—until he was stripped of his security clearance for his alleged unlawful dissemination of classified documents, and in addition fell under further scrutiny allegedly for treasonous efforts to insert pro-Iranian activists into the State Department.

What also was behind the initial, natural instincts of the State Department’s “U.S. Office of Palestinian Affairs”? On news of the attacks, our State department in Pavlovian fashion immediately posted: “We urged all sides to refrain from violence and retaliatory attacks. Terror and violence solve nothing.”

Yes, as lots of us predicted, that insane virtue signal would eventually be taken down—but only in response to Americans outraged at its amoral inanity.

Was our government’s first inclination to stop Israel’s counter-responses to systematic Hamas murdering? Should Israelis accept another 800, 1,000, or 2,000 dead women and children in the interest of abiding by the instruction of the American “Office of Palestinian Affairs” to avoid “retaliatory attacks”?

For that matter, does the Biden administration admonish Ukraine to refrain from “retaliatory attacks”—since, in its logic, responding to Putin’s “terror” with Ukrainian counter “violence” would “solve nothing”?

Or is it just Israel, a democratic ally, that deserves these sermons?

Or do they not reflect the embarrassing reality that there is a core Democratic base—the toxic Squad, AOC's Democratic Socialists, the fusion media, and some of the identity politics caucuses—who are Hamas apologists, even if that bankrupt ideology descends into ignoring or condoning the abject slaughter of civilians in their homes?

And are we really to believe, as told, that resumption of hundreds of millions dollars in aid to the Palestinians was also not fungible and used to aid the current murderous agendas of Hamas?

But do not just believe supporters of Israel about that reality.

Instead, read what dissidents in the State Department themselves warned at the time of the dangers of Biden’s resumption of aid to the radical Palestinians: “We assess there is a high risk Hamas could potentially derive indirect, unintentional benefit from U.S. assistance to Gaza. There is less but still some risk U.S. assistance would benefit other designated groups.”

The administration is, of course, back peddling furiously, given its prior appeasement of Iran and Hamas, if not an outright tilt against Israel—again policies that reflected the embarrassing core constituency of the Democratic Party.

Americans should not listen to what Biden’s team now conveniently says, but instead to what it actually does in the upcoming weeks when it is under fire by its base in the new woke Democratic Party, as the Israelis have to go into Gaza, end this toxic death machine, and confront the Hamas global propaganda machine.

A hard rain is soon going to fall abroad.

And the United States better get its house in order, whether defined as standing with its few dependable allies left, securing its own oil and gas supplies, protecting its borders, un-woking and rebooting its suspect military, recalibrating its all too often incompetent and politicized intelligence bureaus—and thus preparing for a world turned upside down.
8:21 PM · Oct 8, 2023
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https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1711411103379468653?s=20

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Plausible

https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=852,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/149/888/562/original/81cea3d6b8776bc5.png

[Gwin Ru]

...

... there (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Hamas-the-Middle-East-at-War&p=1581027&viewfull=1#post1581027) we go:

Hamas Thanks Iran for Providing Weapons, Money (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/hamas-thanks-iran-for-providing-weapons-money/)

16 hours ago

From former Brexit Parliamentary Candidate, Jim Ferguson (https://twitter.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1710932466339377424?t=wG2kKjV_WW4A62XptnhR6w&s=19):
Abu Obaidah, Spokesperson of Izzuddin Al-Qassam Brigades (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izz_ad-Din_al-Qassam_Brigades) (the military wing of Hamas):
“We thank the Islamic Republic of Iran who provided us with weapons, money and other equipment! He gave us missiles to destroy Zionist fortresses, and helped us with standard anti-tank missiles!”
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/AlexandraBruceJanuary2012-100x100.jpg Contributed by Alexandra Bruce (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/author/alexandra/)
Contact (alexandra.bruce18@gmail.com)

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1711414153779335595?s=20

1711414153779335595

[pyrangello]

He's going to the beach, nothing he has to say is relevant anyways, just getting words out are an accomplishment, if that is even him or an actor playing him, there's so much crap out there we dont even know who's who or are they filming with cgi or not.And who is exactly running things ??? Everything is a deception or a re-direction, always keep that in mind . Just like the game show jeapordy- the reason for the chaos in 2023? What is a crashing dollar parachute.

[mountain_jim]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/warmongers-start-push-us-involvement-iran-following-hamas-attack

Warmongers Start Push For US Involvement In Iran Following Hamas Attack

BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, OCT 09, 2023 - 12:20 PM
Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News (https://summit.news/2023/10/09/warmongers-start-push-for-u-s-involvement-in-iran-following-hamas-attack/),

Following the deadly coordinated attack on innocent civilians in Gaza by Hamas terrorists, U.S. hawks have begun their usual warmongering push, looking to reengage America in Middle Eastern conflict.

GOP Senator Lindsey Graham was head of the line, bandying around threats to Iran that “we are all going to come after you” if there is an escalation involving Hezbollah:

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The Israeli losses are predicted to exceed 1,000 dead.

It is inconceivable that the IDF had NO ready forces positioned in the South or the North to deal with potential violence on the anniversary of 1973.

At the same time, the Arabs did what they never do. They shut up.

In this sense, it’s reminiscent of two conditions.

First, Custer and his column were annihilated because the hostile tribes did something they had never done:

They united and stood their ground. Normally, they were divided and fled as soon as Army Regulars showed up.

He rushed in thinking that if he did not, the hostiles would fleet. It’s also reminiscent of the Bulge.

We talked ourselves into a state of wishful thinking and the Germans surprised us.

For Israel, however, this is deadly serious. If Hezbollah sits this out, the IDF will systematically crush Gaza. However, serious attacks from Southern Lebanon will stretch the IDF ground force to the limit.

It may be that anger and disgust across the Muslim World with the destruction of Gaza and its people eventually provokes a larger war that could involve Iran, even Turkey.

Egypt will be unable to sit it out. Jordan may fall apart under the pressure of internal unrest. In short, the world could change dramatically.
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🇮🇱🇵🇸 The Ahmad Kadyrov grand mosque in Abu-Ghosh near Jerusalem was hit. The mosque is the second biggest mosque In Israel. Completed in 2014, it is named after Ahmad Haji Kadyrov, the Chechnian president who was assassinated in 2004.

The village claims to be of Chechnian descent, and after the assassination of the Chechnian leader, Ahmad Kadyrov, it offered his son and successor, president Ramzan Kadyrov, to jointly erect a mosque in Abu-Ghosh, in his father’s memory. Completed and opened in 2014, the mosque can hold up to 3000 people. It is designed in Ottoman style, which is the favored architectural style in Chechnya. Its four minarets cannot be missed, and its marble coat give it a unique and grand look.

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IDF members collaborated with Hamas, sources tell Iran's Tasnim news agency

Iran's Tasnim says they've been told by sources inside Palestine that a part of the IDF cooperated with Hamas during the operation and that's what caught the Israelis by surprise, leading to severe losses

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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/egypt-claims-it-warned-israel-of-upcoming-attack.html

Egypt Claims It Warned Israel Of Upcoming Attack
October 09, 2023

Will this finally end Netanyahoo's rein?

Egypt says Israel ignored warnings Hamas planned major offensive - Yedioth Ahranoth - Oct 9 2023

Egypt warned Israel of a pending Hamas attack ten days before terrorists breached the border and took control of military bases, and communities, killing more than 700 and taking 150 captive including women and children.
"We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings,” the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to discuss the content of sensitive intelligence discussions with the media, told The Associated Press.

The Egyptian official said the Israelis were concentrated on the tension on the West Bank and did not consider the Gaza ruling terror group to be a threat despite repeated warningד that the Egyptians though were not being taken seriously.

One would hope so. But the story will certainly be denied. And due to the war Bibi may still keep his seat.

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, I do NOT condemn Palestine's armed uprising against 75 years of Israeli oppression. I wish it wasn't necessary, but all non-violent efforts to obtain justice have been spurned by Israel.

You should tell your viewers that it's Israel that's in breach of international law, not Palestine, which has the legal right to resort to armed resistance against occupation.

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, I do NOT condemn Palestine's armed uprising against 75 years of Israeli oppression. I wish it wasn't necessary, but all non-violent efforts to obtain justice have been spurned by Israel.

You should tell your viewers that it's Israel that's in breach of international law, not Palestine, which has the legal right to resort to armed resistance against occupation.

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This isn't the right response, either. This wasn't "armed resistance." The attack was carried out by Hamas, a group obviously controlled and funded by Israel, not by Palestinians. Nothing makes it OK to kill a bunch of civilians, and it makes absolutely no strategic sense at all for a truly Palestinian supporting group to kill Israeli citizens and enrage Israel and the Israel-supporting countries of the world, as well as putting all Palestinians in Gaza into the crosshairs to be snuffed out in retaliation.

[Ewan]

It may serve all of us well to look to the past to understand the unfolding events of today, and I don't mean the last 100 years.

It seems clear to me that this is another 'false flag' carried out by the people that need momentum to sway narratives. Using rhetoric to influence emotion and never let any truth stand in the way of that.

With that introduction, (Can you hear the trumpets of the Colloseum?), allow me to introduce Niccolò Machiavelli (https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/machiavelli/)

Another worthy link may be Politics-of-power-through-Force-and-Propaganda (https://worldhistory.us/european-history/machiavelli-and-politics-of-power-through-force-and-propaganda.php).



Machiavelli on War & Command

1. “There is no avoiding war, it can only be postponed to the advantage of your enemy.”

If you think that as a ruler, you will always keep your hands clean and never have to use your army to fight your enemy, you are highly mistaken, and frankly, for Machiavelli, you have chosen the wrong path to follow.

Politics is the world of war. Avoiding war will only give an advantage to your enemy. Why? Because the opposing side might have already understood the business of politics and, most importantly, the next point of the analysis.

2. “He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command.”

Why? Because people fearing you is better than people loving you. And why’s that? Because you always need a small portion of the people to be with you or you have to control the army, even a small portion of it. Hence, you always have the resources to command the people if something goes wrong.

For Machiavelli, politics is strongly connected to commanding. People won’t always listen to someone who only asks to be obeyed. People will have to be hesitant to act unjustly or wrongfully because they have someone who can command as the ruler.

3. “There is simply no comparison between an armed man and one who is not. It is simply unreasonable to expect that an armed man should obey one who is unarmed, or that an unarmed man should remain safe and secure when his servants are armed.”

With this quote, Machiavelli can just sum up the reality in politics since the beginning of the time that such an institution existed. Why are so many governments failing? Because there’s no balance between the man who is unarmed and thinks that the armed man will obey his order and the man who is armed and believes that the unarmed man feels safe.

In reality, the unarmed man isn’t taking action because he is afraid for his life, and the armed man will never obey someone who doesn’t pose any real threat to him.


4. “You must know, then, that there are two methods of fighting, the one by law, the other by force: the first method is that of men, the second of beasts; but as the first method is often insufficient, one must have recourse to the second”

Since the beginning of politics, there has always been an actual misunderstanding. Negotiations will get you anywhere you want to go, and force is never the thing to do. Well… although it might be correct, it’s not always efficient.

Sometimes, political rulers have to be beasts and not always men, especially when dealing with other beasts or the first approach has failed.

5. “Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please.”

Machiavelli wasn’t always portraying the image of a cold-hearted human being who is numb to ideas such as war, loss of life, and uncontrollable use of force. Here is a prime example. It’s the most logical statement that you will probably find in this article, but it’s the truest and most accurate one.

6. “Before all else, be armed.” (https://curiosmos.com/machiavelli-and-his-10-most-controversial-statements-about-war/)


Edit: To add :- (the last three enumerated points which I missed in my haste...)

7. “A battle that you win cancels all your mistakes.”

And there you have it, to the victor - the ability to shape history..

8. “So far as he is able, a prince should stick to the path of good but, if the necessity arises, he should know how to follow evil.”

9. “Therefore, it is unnecessary for a prince to have all the good qualities I have enumerated. But it is very necessary to appear to have them.”

Psychopaths, please step forward, now is your time..

[grapevine]

Egypt just dropped a BOMBSHELL in the Israel Hamas War | Redacted with Clayton Morris reporting from Northern Egypt 6:07 minutes

Israel Defence Minister: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel. We are fighting human animals and we will act accordingly"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLGTOFP2QK8&t=24s&ab_channel=Redacted

It's thought that Hamas has bought US arms from Ukraine on the Black Market and fired them on Israel.

[pyrangello]

Alert! WATCH FOR A MAJOR FALSE FLAG EVENT ON US SOIL... WE ARE BEING BOXED IN. Mannarino

As Ewan said above : It seems clear to me that this is another 'false flag' carried out by the people that need momentum to sway narratives. Using rhetoric to influence emotion and never let any truth stand in the way of that.

14 minute narrative done today , he's on the target


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[Bassplayer1]

It's crossed my mind (and probably many others here too), that a pandemic is no longer necessary for digital passports. They may well be rolled out as this situation unfolds to "keep us safe from terror" before we can travel or enter venues and events ... and eventually any public space. All it will take is a few attacks in western towns and cities and it will be enough to frighten the masses into digital submission.
I really hope its just my over active imagination. It's one thing saying no to this surveillance due to a vaccine, but quite another when it comes to propaganda and mandating everyone doing their bit 'against the war on terror.' It may become increasingly difficult to remain quietly under the radar living a peaceful life.

Despite my concerns, I'm truly sorry for all the loss of life and trauma of innocent people and children that's happening right now.

[Bill Ryan]

More from The Moon of Alabama, their second article for today:


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/wsj-joins-neocons-to-instigate-war-on-iran.html#more

WSJ Joins Neocons to Instigate War on Iran

Updated below.

The neo-conservatives want to blame Iran for the current war in Palestine/Gaza.

They have for years tried to instigate war against it. Now they again see a chance. But its not a big one - yet.

Yossi Melman is a very well connected (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yossi_Melman) Israeli author:
Yossi Melman @yossi_melman - 5:33 UTC · Oct 9, 2023 (https://twitter.com/yossi_melman/status/1711253641573584970) IDF spokeperson Brig-General Danny Hagari said that there is no indication of an Iranian involvement in the war in Gaza.

Biden administration scrambles to deter wider Mideast conflict (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/10/08/israel-hamas-intelligence-middle-east/) - Washington Post - Oct 8 2023

Asked whether Hamas may have acted in partnership with Iran to disrupt the effort to broker a Saudi deal, Blinken said “that could have been part of the motivation. Look, who opposes normalization? Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran.” But, he said, “we have not yet seen evidence that Iran directed or was behind this particular attack.”
Fear not, say the neocons, we still have the Wall Street Journal to carry water for us:

Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks (https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25) (archived (https://archive.ph/WMlUa#selection-4239.0-4239.52)) - Wall Street Journal - Oct 8 2023
DUBAI—Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas’s Saturday surprise attack on Israel and gave the green light for the assault at a meeting in Beirut last Monday, according to senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah, another Iran-backed militant group. Officers of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps had worked with Hamas since August to devise the air, land and sea incursions—the most significant breach of Israel’s borders since the 1973 Yom Kippur War—those people said.
Details of the operation were refined during several meetings in Beirut attended by IRGC officers and representatives of four Iran-backed militant groups, including Hamas, which holds power in Gaza, and Hezbollah, a Shiite militant group and political faction in Lebanon, they said.
WSJ authors in Dubai(!) have access to "senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah"?

Both groups are notorious for their secrecy and their senior leadership is usually hidden away. Those facts alone are enough to debunk the report as nonsense. But the WSJ authors continue:
“We don’t have any information at this time to corroborate this account,” said a U.S. official of the meetings. A European official and an adviser to the Syrian government, however, gave the same account of Iran’s involvement in the lead-up to the attack as the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members.
Asked about the meetings, Mahmoud Mirdawi, a senior Hamas official, said the group planned the attacks on its own. “This is a Palestinian and Hamas decision,” he said.
A spokesman for Iran’s mission to the United Nations said the Islamic Republic stood in support of Gaza’s actions but didn’t direct them.
“The decisions made by the Palestinian resistance are fiercely autonomous and unwaveringly aligned with the legitimate interests of the Palestinian people,” the spokesman said. “We are not involved in Palestine’s response, as it is taken solely by Palestine itself.”
Three direct rejections by official sources of the WSJ claims get countered with an anonymous 'European official' and a likewise anonymous 'adviser to the Syrian government'.

It is like the authors don't even try to sound believable:
A direct Iranian role would take Tehran’s long-running conflict with Israel out of the shadows, raising the risk of broader conflict in the Middle East. Senior Israeli security officials have pledged to strike at Iran’s leadership if Tehran is found responsible for killing Israelis. The IRGC’s broader plan is to create a multi-front threat that can strangle Israel from all sides—Hezbollah and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in the north and Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank, according to the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members and an Iranian official.
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Israel has blamed Iran, saying it is behind the attacks, if indirectly. ​​ “We know that there were meetings in Syria and in Lebanon with other leaders of the terror armies that surround Israel so obviously it’s easy to understand that they tried to coordinate. The proxies of Iran in our region, they tried to be coordinated as much as possible with Iran,” Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, said Sunday.
There is however little evidence for the Israeli assertion:
Leading the effort to wrangle Iran’s foreign proxies under a unified command has been Ismail Qaani, the leader of the IRGC’s international military arm, the Quds Force.
Qaani launched coordination among several militias surrounding Israel in April during a meeting in Lebanon, The Wall Street Journal has reported, where Hamas began working more closely with other groups such as Hezbollah for the first time.
Hamas and Hezbollah have cooperated for decades. During the war on Syria some Hamas members took the side of the 'moderate rebels'. They taught them how (https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-did-hamass-military-expertise-end-syrias-rebels) to dig large tunnels, a technique they themselves had once learned from Hizbullah:
Abu Musaab, a leader in Ahrar al-Sham, told the pro-uprising satellite television station Orient News that the Syrian militant group received tutorial videos from Gazans showing them how to repair collapsing tunnels. "The ground here became damp and began to fall on us…and some of our youth were trapped inside. So we spoke to those with expertise, our brothers in Gaza, may God reward their good deeds," Abu Musaab was quoted as saying.
"We consulted them regarding the problem and they advised us to bring in wood (plates), sending us video segment showing us how they do it and we replicated that," Abu Musaab added.
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And in June 2013, the pro-Hezbollah al-Akhbar newspaper reported that "sources close to Hezbollah and the Syrian regime claim that Hamas had a role to play in the battles of Qusayr, [where tunnels] … had been dug using small Iranian devices that Hezbollah had transferred to Hamas."

"Some of the explosives, they added, were found to contain electronic chips that Hamas had acquired from Iran and Hezbollah," the Lebanese paper said.
After the war in Syria was decided in the governments favor, Hamas slowly found its way back into the resistance camp. Consultations between Hezbullah and Hamas have been constant since. Back to the WSJ:
Representatives of these groups have met with Quds Force leaders at least biweekly in Lebanon since August to discuss this weekend’s attack on Israel and what happens next, they said. Qaani has attended some of those meetings along with Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah, Islamic Jihad leader al-Nakhalah, and Saleh al-Arouri, Hamas’s military chief, the militant-group members said. Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian attended at least two of the meetings, they said.
This, however, is clearly no believable. Amir-Abdollahian is a professional diplomat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hossein_Amir-Abdollahian), not a security official. While he has been deeply involved in political issues regarding Palestine he is unlikely to have been involved in any top-secret operational planning.

Also biweekly meetings between Qaani, Nasrallah and other high ranking resistance leaders are unlikely to have ever happened. Each such meeting would be a security nightmare.

The planning for the recent Hamas operation must have taken years not just the few month since August. While the WSJ lets it seem that there is operational coordination between the various resistance groups their real cooperation is on a way more strategic level.

Each group in the resistance axis has its own plans and goals. That does not exclude strategic cooperation, but not on the detail level of fighting:
Egypt, which is trying to mediate in the conflict, has warned Israeli officials that a ground invasion into Gaza would trigger a military response from Hezbollah, opening up a second battlefront, people familiar with the matter said. Israel and Hezbollah exchanged fire briefly on Sunday.
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The Iranian official said that if Iran were attacked, it would respond with missile strikes on Israel from Lebanon, Yemen and Iran, and send Iranian fighters into Israel from Syria to attack cities in the north and east of Israel.While there is no denying that Iran, Hezbullah, Hamas and others consult with each other on a high level, any deeper cooperation, training or assistance is unlikely to still exist. It is each on their own, but with a common big goal in mind.

Update - 14:40 UTC

Of interest:
Andrew MacGregor Marshall @zenjournalist - 11:54 UTC · Oct 9, 2023
(https://twitter.com/zenjournalist/status/1711349508733280349) The main reporter on this story, @summer_said, has a history of dishonesty and inventing stories. I fired her from Reuters in 2008 for this reason. I’m surprised that the @WSJ has hired her and is publishing her stories that are clearly bogus.

[Bill Ryan]

Gaza is now being carpet-bombed by Israel. This is all likely to draw Hezbollah into the battle.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82398

The text:
Hezbollah published a video called “We are coming”ZandVchannel/82398

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82407

The text:
Hezbollah said it has 250,000 missiles ready to be launched at Israel. ZandVchannel/82407

[thepainterdoug]

its amazing to me how everything is a movie now. with sound effects and all mixed and masteredas if in a studio. . actors photo ops, staged scenes and you can't tell anymore whats fake or real

we are really in the quickening . anything you once thought couldnt happen in your safe zone, now could. I truly dont feel safe anymore in any way, be it personal bodily safety, survelliance and privacy, hacking and scamming, fraud, dishonesty , well the list goes on

and its this disbelief it could never happen here that has allowed this casual acceptance of all this insanity , little by little like a frog being boiled in slowly heated water.
so many lives being ruined as these government criminals get a pass. beyond sickening

[Satori]

its amazing to me how everything is a movie now. with sound effects and all mixed and masteredas if in a studio. . actors photo ops, staged scenes and you can't tell anymore whats fake or real

we are really in the quickening . anything you once thought couldnt happen in your safe zone, now could. I truly dont feel safe anymore in any way, be it personal bodily safety, survelliance and privacy, hacking and scamming, fraud, dishonesty , well the list goes on

and its this disbelief it could never happen here that has allowed this casual acceptance of all this insanity , little by little like a frog being boiled in slowly heated water.
so many lives being ruined as these government criminals get a pass. beyond sickening

Bingo. So when will we, the people, stop it? The how to stop it is right there for everyone with eyes to see, ears to hear, reasonable minds to think and hands to work.

[thepainterdoug]

i listened to dan bonginio report tonight. i agree with him, we will remain a frog in the slowly boiling water. we really dont believe it yet. its going to take a lot more
football is still on, the nhl begins, big money in sports and all.

and dont forget the trump card. it is as hard as me to totally believe , that biden is under white hat and trump orders and playing his part for the greatest show on earth to unfold

[gini]

u_3L6FueNWE--Oct 10, 2023
Israel Seeks Capture Gaza, Neocons Demand Iran Attack, UK Media Blames Putin; Ukr War: Rus Has Initiative All Fronts

[norman]

https://t.me/rightonradio/17954
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[shaberon]

All of this sends icy shivers down my spine, is anybody else feeling the evil emanating from such positions? So far, I've mostly been avoiding these 'christians', except for today where I soon found out that a fact-based rational discussion doesn't seem possible. What to say to christians who hold such disregard for palestinians? The complication is that this is someone with whom I had been working with on ending the covid mandates.



It's not off topic. Zionism is a Christian enterprise.

What I have learned to do is explain how this is British Fascism and reveal the ignorant interpretation of Ezekiel.

It can be followed up by showing how they have stolen the name "Christian" from its rightful owners, the enemy or i. e. Russians.

To me, it is ultra disgusting black magic, but I have learned to temper the tone and just show how it is all a Big Lie.

Those people happen to be deaf as posts. You will get one here and there who perhaps has decided to "repent", but for the most part, it is considered a mark of strength to be unchangeable.

[shaberon]

A few minutes ago from the relevant authority (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1923770):


Abu Ubaida further underscored the resilience of resistance fighters, stating, “Despite the enemy’s possession of advanced security and military technology, they have failed to confront our fighters on the ground for over 60 hours. Despite the billions invested in their soldiers and their so-called elite forces, none of this has stood up to the moment of truth and confrontation with the Qassam elite.”

He went on to emphasize, “Our battles continue across multiple locations, with the constant rotation of forces, the dispatch of reinforcements armed with weapons and equipment, and the capture of prisoners. Our mujahideen have engaged in unrelenting clashes, culminating in the defeat of the entire Gaza division of the occupation army on the first day. Our fighters have effectively neutralized Merkava tanks and other military hardware.”

In closing, he issued a stern message to the occupation forces, saying, “We tell the occupation that the era of your triumphs has irrevocably ended, giving way to an era of defeat and setbacks. The Qassam Brigades maintain a firm grip on the direction of this battle, underpinned by an efficient command and control system, and we are fully prepared to endure for an extended duration.”

“In response to the occupation’s relentless attacks on innocent civilians in their homes, devoid of any prior warning, we have made the decision to put an end to these heinous crimes. For every act of aggression against our peaceful citizens, we will respond by executing civilian hostages, and we will provide irrefutable evidence through audio and video broadcasts.”

Abu Ubaida emphasized that “the enemy’s actions demonstrate a complete disregard for human values and ethics, and therefore, we will communicate with them in the language they understand.”


I'm guessing the dead and captured Brigadier Generals were not in on any "let's let them attack us" ploy. They just suck. Israelis and Saudis share one thing, being the worst soldiers on the face of the earth. The current claim is long term cooperation (https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/09/712394/Israeli-military-personnel-Palestinian-resistance-collaboration) with some Israeli military:


The official underlined that the cooperation has not been limited to intelligence and the Palestinians have for a long time been procuring a large part of their equipment from the soldiers and the body of the Israeli military.

Yes, one would think mutiny is a pretty viable option for the mice.

From the other hand (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1920778):


The Islamic Jihad leader revealed that the resistance faction currently holds over 30 Israeli captives...

“The enemy is breaking, in fact, it has already broken. Our courageous people are encircling the military installations and settlements of the enemy.” he said, adding “Our resolute people have, through their unwavering determination, brought a heavily armed enemy to its knees.”

Nakhalah tackled the series of Israeli attacks on Gaza, saying “The enemy erroneously believes that by perpetrating civilian massacres, it can shatter our people’s resolve. The enemy seeks to bolster its confidence through the destruction of homes in Gaza and the tragic loss of innocent lives. However, this remains a fallacious illusion.”

March!

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Off the wire:

Haaretz: Israeli army is “not ready” for ground attack in Gaza, is operating from a position of weakness.

[re: ECOWAS]

White House says it shifted aircraft carrier to eastern Mediterranean to maintain “our readiness to defend our national security”

[the United States has owned the Mediterranean since 2,637 B. C.]

Jews spit at Christian worshippers

An Egyptian policeman has opened fire on tourists in the Mediterranean city of Alexandria, killing at least two Israelis

Venezuela’s Maduro says ‘Israel’ is committing genocide against the Palestinians

UN chief says ‘deeply distressed’ by planned Israeli siege of Gaza


As a paradigm of our rules-based order (https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/09/712401/israel-white-phosphorus-use-Gaza-bombing):

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The Israeli regime has started using internationally banned white phosphorus in its bombing of the Gaza Strip, a report says, as the regime continues to target residential neighborhoods in the densely-populated Palestinian territory.


According to Jerusalem Post (https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/gaza-news/article-763206):

Blinken underscored that “I urged that all leaders in the region must condemn these appalling acts of terrorism.”


[they didn't]

The surprise Hamas attack that began early Saturday morning came amid a US push for a security pact with Saudi Arabia that would also include a normalization deal with Israel.

[sounds like a red line]


You cannot be at war with Hamas, because it is a terrorist, organized violence and threats of violence with a political message.

Israel cannot "unprovokedly" attack Syria, since this is an ongoing war since 1967. There, currently, the guy who "must go" due to the actions of terrorists:

President Bashar al-Assad and Mrs. Asma in Hangzhou International Airport


Current CFR (https://www.cfr.org/report/future-u.s.-turkey) advice:

Reject Turkey's demands that the United States end its military ties with the YPG.

and then:

4 days ago — The Pentagon says United States warplanes have shot down a Turkish drone, which was deemed a threat to its forces in Syria...


The decades of pretending to make a Zionist military means they have to be "surged" American ammunition, as if there is such a thing to be had, and then they probably better park the Gerald Ford at least 2,200 km outside of Iran's borders. Or was it 2,600. Fairly long reach to turn that thing into a graveyard. As to the Turkish or Egyptian admiration for such a thing, I am not sure they have adequate means to dispose of it.

The easiest thing to do would be unconditional surrender to Syria. Quick, easy way to sort this mess by someone with experience in such things.

[Sirus]

No country can take Iran. Its ring-fenced by mountains. The best we can hope for is another coup or to support the women's rights movement and play the long game.

[Vicus]

No, the Hamas Invasion Was Not an Israeli ‘Intelligence Failure’

One would have to be almost hopelessly naïve to buy the corporate state media line that the Hamas invasion yesterday morning was an Israeli “intelligence failure.”

Mossad is one of, if not the, most powerful intelligence agencies on the planet. It routinely shares intelligence, furthermore, with the “Five Eyes” intelligence services.

It has its tentacles deep inside of every ally and foe of import. Its spies are littered across the Gaza Strip, which is an effective open-air prison into which goods do not flow but for the blessing of the Israeli state. The Gaza Strip is arguably the most heavily surveilled geographic area on Earth.

The Hamas invasion of Southern Israel yesterday was an operation involving tens of thousands of operatives, at least, across land, sea, and air, using all manner of equipment and weaponry – drones, thousands of rockets, countless firearms, and even bulldozers that were positioned to knock down Israeli fencing.

And MSNBC and CNN would have you believe this was all a big “intelligence failure” by Mossad.

Bibi Netanyahu was in real political trouble before this conveniently timed invasion. Now, or at least this is the hope, Israelis will rally around the flag for some patriotic Palestinian ass-kicking and their Prime Minister’s imminently obvious corruption will be, at least temporarily, forgotten, if not forgiven.

Meanwhile, Israeli intelligence, rather than being punished for its “failure,” will use its “failure” as a pretext to garner more funding and more authorities for itself so as to prevent another such “failure.” The Hamas invasion was only a “failure” if one believes the goal of Mossad is to protect Israeli civilians rather than accrue more power for itself.

At a bare minimum, Mossad knew of the attack beforehand and let it happen for political convenience. More likely, in my view, is that it actively facilitated the attack.

The kind of person who would believe this was a big intelligence whoopsie are the same kind of people who would buy that a handful of semi-literate cave-dwellers halfway around the world singlehandedly pulled off the greatest terror attack in world history with no assistance from spooks and that buildings with structure fires at the top of them collapse at freefall speed neatly into their own footprints.

If you’re one of those – and I assume you’re not if you’re reading this – I don’t know what to tell you. Read a book or something.


https://armageddonprose.substack.com/p/no-the-hamas-invasion-was-not-an

[Tintin]

No, the Hamas Invasion Was Not an Israeli ‘Intelligence Failure’

One would have to be almost hopelessly naïve to buy the corporate state media line that the Hamas invasion yesterday morning was an Israeli “intelligence failure.”

Mossad is one of, if not the, most powerful intelligence agencies on the planet. It routinely shares intelligence, furthermore, with the “Five Eyes” intelligence services.

It has its tentacles deep inside of every ally and foe of import. Its spies are littered across the Gaza Strip, which is an effective open-air prison into which goods do not flow but for the blessing of the Israeli state. The Gaza Strip is arguably the most heavily surveilled geographic area on Earth.

The Hamas invasion of Southern Israel yesterday was an operation involving tens of thousands of operatives, at least, across land, sea, and air, using all manner of equipment and weaponry – drones, thousands of rockets, countless firearms, and even bulldozers that were positioned to knock down Israeli fencing.

And MSNBC and CNN would have you believe this was all a big “intelligence failure” by Mossad.

Bibi Netanyahu was in real political trouble before this conveniently timed invasion. Now, or at least this is the hope, Israelis will rally around the flag for some patriotic Palestinian ass-kicking and their Prime Minister’s imminently obvious corruption will be, at least temporarily, forgotten, if not forgiven.

Meanwhile, Israeli intelligence, rather than being punished for its “failure,” will use its “failure” as a pretext to garner more funding and more authorities for itself so as to prevent another such “failure.” The Hamas invasion was only a “failure” if one believes the goal of Mossad is to protect Israeli civilians rather than accrue more power for itself.

At a bare minimum, Mossad knew of the attack beforehand and let it happen for political convenience. More likely, in my view, is that it actively facilitated the attack.

The kind of person who would believe this was a big intelligence whoopsie are the same kind of people who would buy that a handful of semi-literate cave-dwellers halfway around the world singlehandedly pulled off the greatest terror attack in world history with no assistance from spooks and that buildings with structure fires at the top of them collapse at freefall speed neatly into their own footprints.

If you’re one of those – and I assume you’re not if you’re reading this – I don’t know what to tell you. Read a book or something.


https://armageddonprose.substack.com/p/no-the-hamas-invasion-was-not-an

Yes, that was a good neat read. I aver that IDF rebels unhappy with Netanyahu, and who want rid of him, worked with HAMAS (trans: Islamic Resistance Movement), perhaps even provided intel, to facilitate this? Not all elements of the Israeli military support Netanyahu and have openly stated that much. High-octane speculation there but it has to be possible.

That said, Scott Ritter in his recent MOATS interview with George Galloway has suggested it could very well have been a genuine intelligence failure as they've (IDF) now apparently delegated military decision-making to AI modelling and not as they had always done previously, with HUMINT.

In tempore veritas...

[All is one]

Haven't been able to read all the posts, but from the first instance I saw the news,
to me the whole thing smells like Albert Pike his prediction for WWIII. I hope I'm wrong.

[Rizotto]

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. The fact that Isreal has nukes. As far as I know, Isreal has not been willing to this day to publicly acknowledge that it has nukes, because of technical info they stole from the USA. But there you go, everybody knows they have nukes. Since the 1970s I vaguely recall. (Somebody please correct me on the exact year.)

Now the question is, at which point and how/where will Isreal use nukes? Many if not most of the surrounding arab countries have in recent days expressed support for palestinians since the recent Hamas attack, even Saudi Arabia. A coordinated fighting collaboration of all these arab countries against Isreal could be the trigger point.

[Bill Ryan]

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. The fact that Isreal has nukes. As far as I know, Isreal has not been willing to this day to publicly acknowledge that it has nukes, because of technical info they stole from the USA. But there you go, everybody knows they have nukes. Since the 1970s I vaguely recall. (Somebody please correct me on the exact year.)

Now the question is, at which point and how/where will Isreal use nukes? Many if not most of the surrounding arab countries have in recent days expressed support for palestinians since the recent Hamas attack, even Saudi Arabia. A coordinated fighting collaboration of all these arab countries against Israel could be the trigger point.The trigger point indeed. :flower: And yes re Israel's nukes... see this Wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu) (which is detailed and accurate) about Mordechai Vanunu, who broke the story. The exact year Israel became nuclear-capable isn't publicly known, as best I'm aware, but it was very likely in the 70s.

[Johan (Keyholder)]

As All is one pointed out, there is the letter of Albert Pike, written in 1871 to Mazzini, referring to three world wars "to come" (and planned).

He seems te have been right on the first two. Below the essence of the letter (Not sure whether it is 100% correctly given though; source:
https://ia601900.us.archive.org/16/items/albert-pike-letter-to-mazzini/Albert%20Pike%20Letter%20to%20Mazzini.pdf).

Following are apparently extracts from the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine.

During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time

[SilentFeathers]

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. The fact that Isreal has nukes. As far as I know, Isreal has not been willing to this day to publicly acknowledge that it has nukes, because of technical info they stole from the USA. But there you go, everybody knows they have nukes. Since the 1970s I vaguely recall. (Somebody please correct me on the exact year.)

Now the question is, at which point and how/where will Isreal use nukes? Many if not most of the surrounding arab countries have in recent days expressed support for palestinians since the recent Hamas attack, even Saudi Arabia. A coordinated fighting collaboration of all these arab countries against Israel could be the trigger point.The trigger point indeed. :flower: And yes re Israel's nukes... see this Wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu) (which is detailed and accurate) about Mordechai Vanunu, who broke the story. The exact year Israel became nuclear-capable isn't publicly known, as best I'm aware, but it was very likely in the 70s.

We need to remember this:


The general showed Clark a classified memo from then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld that listed seven countries that were to be toppled by the U.S. military in the coming five years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. In that order.
https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/middle-east-war-plan/
They are a bit behind schedule yet Iran is the last on the list to be toppled or extremely crippled....

Now that Israel is on the warpath and the US is supporting Israel and moving a battle ready carrier fleet etc, into play, most of the rhetoric is being directly aimed at Iran, Iran is quickly becoming the whole focus of this "Hamas Attack".

I highly expect an event within the US (sooner than later) to shock the masses in to supporting a huge escalation of war in the Middle East, specifically towards Iran.

Hopefully I am wrong but all things are falling right into the place for this to happen.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Alex Jones and David Icke predict the future all the time using the enemy's own written words, not some airy fairy hundred year old guess.
Don't need Picke.
No one that far out can predict the future.

Except the prophets, maybe.

There is no sense to be made but the obvious: we are being played again in a problem reaction solution scenario. All planned. Both sides played against the middle.

We, the entire world, need Trump back in office...

[Dennis Leahy]

A few months ago, with all eyes on Ukraine, I noticed that Israel was rattling sabres at Iran, and it felt different than their usual propaganda, as if they were actually setting the scene for attacking Iran.

(In my strong opinion) Israel wasn't just instrumental in 9/11, the Mossad did more than plant explosives in WTC buildings. Israel was the main recipient of benefit from 9/11, and the operation - using the US military as their chess pieces, destroyed most of Greater Israel's enemies, the "7 countries in 5 years (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWxKn-1S8ts)", just as General Wesley Clark said the Pentagon official told him, "...and finishing off Iran." The US Deep State has shown itself time and time again to be Zionist. Zionism supporters are Deep State supporters.

I believe that the Zio-Hamas attack on Zio-Israel was not really just about crushing Palestinians and stealing more of Palestine, but actually was a false flag operation with the ultimate goal of getting the (US Deep State controlled) US military to "finish off Iran."

If you heard the speech (yesterday or the day before) from Trump, and paid little attention to his campaigning against Biden and listened to the meat and potatoes of his speech, you should realize that Donald Trump is indeed a programmed stooge for the Zio Deep State, the Zio-Nazis. He bragged about helping Israel steal the oil-rich Syrian "Golan Heights", bragged about being the greatest friend to Israel, bragged about moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, and even doubled down on his racist stance against Arabs and bragged about prohibiting Arabs from even entering the US (from the president that was going to cut through the bullsh!t official narrative of 19 Arabs with boxcutters orchestrating 9/11. Yeah, right.) Moreover, he didn't just assail Biden for being a sleepy incompetent crook, but pummeled him for being weak, and asserted that Biden's weakness caused the Zio-Hamas attack - further goading the Biden-fronted cabal to attack Iran. As I've said before, the Deep State is happy to work with Trump, he does everything they want - his enemy is the DNC cabal.

Gaza wasn't the target, Iran is.

[Gwin Ru]

...

... this one hits hard, from a different historical perspective:

Forcing Prophesy and Justifying Mass Murder (https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b/forcing-prophesy-and-justifying-mass:3) 38:22

October 9, 2023

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(https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b)@RoystonPotter
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@RoystonPotter:b/forcing-prophesy-and-justifying-mass:3

Roy also mentioned Ray McGovern's answers belittling the Hamas facilitated excursion... which makes me very suspicious about who is buttering the other 3's bread (Macgregor, Ritter and Johnson)?

[Vicus]

Putin: Current Situation in Middle East Serves as Example of US Policy Failure 4 hours ago (Updated: 1 hour ago)

Russian President Vladimir Putin has expressed his regrets about the recent escalation of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and described it as a failure of the US policy in the Middle East.

Vladimir Putin made remarks about the current volatile situation in the Middle East as he met with Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Al Sudani in Moscow to discuss relations between Russia and Iraq.
Commenting on the events that transpire in the Gaza Strip and at the adjacent Israeli territories, Putin described it as a "clear example" of the US foreign policy in the Middle East.

According to the Russian president, the US government actively sought to "monopolize" the resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict but instead of seeking a compromise, solutions that would have been acceptable for both sides, pushed their own vision of how this decades-old conflict should be resolved.

"The Ukrainian crisis continues, and, unfortunately, we see a sharp escalation of the situation in the Middle East. I think that many will agree with me that this is a clear example of the failure of the policy of the United States in the Middle East, which tried to monopolize the settlement, but, unfortunately, was not concerned with finding compromises acceptable to both sides, but, on the contrary, promoted its own ideas about how it should be done," Putin said.

The US put pressure on both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, each time without taking into account the fundamental interests of the Palestinian people, the president said, referring to the need to implement decisions by the UN Security Council on the creation of an independent sovereign Palestinian state.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20231010/putin-us-puts-pressure-on-both-sides-of-israel-palestine-conflict-1114064145.html?rcmd_alg=collaboration2

[Ernie Nemeth]

It is not about who is in what cabal. It is about common sense policy.
Trump's got it, Biden doesn't.
Kennedy would be acceptable but he has no path to victory.

[Dennis Leahy]

It is not about who is in what cabal. It is about common sense policy.
Trump's got it, Biden doesn't.
Kennedy would be acceptable but he has no path to victory.
Hi Ernie,

I'm trying to keep my observations pertinent to this thread about the Zio-Hamas false flag against Zio-Israel, and my observation that the US Deep State is Zionist and is and has been supporting and facilitating Zionist agenda (whether the Zionist-supporting, Deep State-supporting presidents realize it or not.)

I strongly disagree that it is not about who supports Zionist agenda, as that was my point. Remember that quite often, the smartest answer to the question of who the bad guys are is, " ☒ All of the above."

Let's move any discussion about supporting Trump or expounding on the "common sense policy" and "path to victory" that you believe Trump has laid out in one of the Trump threads. I'd love to hear your observations on what specifically "common sense policy" and "path to victory" actually means, beyond nebulous, jingoistic phrases, because I honestly have not heard them laid out.

[Inversion]

This video gives a good overview of the events in the Middle East. I think it's staged to traumatize the regional population into accepting the construction of the third temple. Hamas claims they've done this in response to the attack on Al-Aqsa Mosque (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Mosque#Umayyad_period). That's a stone's throw from the Dome of the Rock (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Al-Aqsa+Mosque/@31.7771813,35.2347442,454m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x150329c9c96f3a51:0x9d880658c9248aad!8m2!3d31.7760692!4d35.2357802!16zL20vM GhmazE?entry=ttu).

10/10/23

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5slJTFa-u8


00:43 - What is Gaza?
01:01 - Who are Hamas?
01:53 - Why is the war different?
02:05 - Hamas attack on October 7th
03:07 - How Israel was taken by surprise
04:40 - Israel's attack on Gaza
05:41 - Why is this happening now?
06:32 - The impact of Israel's occupation on Palestinians
07:28 - What could happen next?

[eagle0027]

David Ike just did a presentation part of which was discussing Albert Pike...quite informative.

[shaberon]

Haven't been able to read all the posts, but from the first instance I saw the news,
to me the whole thing smells like Albert Pike his prediction for WWIII. I hope I'm wrong.



It would be wrong because that letter is a hoax.

Three exclusive religions claiming the same holy land might be more of the difficulty.

[shaberon]

I aver that IDF rebels unhappy with Netanyahu, and who want rid of him, worked with HAMAS (trans: Islamic Resistance Movement), perhaps even provided intel, to facilitate this? Not all elements of the Israeli military support Netanyahu and have openly stated that much. High-octane speculation there but it has to be possible.


No speculation, we were just told that IDF has been cooperating for years.

They and other Israelis facilitate the re-designation of Ukrainian black market weapons as well.

Danger may cause people to switch sides or take pledges quickly, and appear like "solidarity", but some Israelis and definitely Jews Against Zionism do not like the squatter government.


Here is how video victory (https://southfront.press/in-video-18-israeli-servicemen-failed-to-hide-their-crime/) is playing out:



First, the video shows the dead bodies of four Palestinian militants lying with weapons. However, the footage shared by the Israeli military reveals that the militants were shot after they surrendered. Moreover, the footage from the drone confirmed that the victims were not armed and Israeli servicemen later put weapons next to the bodies, apparently in an attempt to hide their war crime and declare a descent victory.

“We have abolished all the rules of warfare. Our soldiers will not be held responsible for anything. There will be no military courts,” Yoav Galant, the head of the Israeli Defense Ministry, declared on October 10.

[Pris]

.

Hi Ernie...
...

Let's move any discussion about supporting Trump or expounding on the "common sense policy" and "path to victory" that you believe Trump has laid out in one of the Trump threads. I'd love to hear your observations on what specifically "common sense policy" and "path to victory" actually means, beyond nebulous, jingoistic phrases, because I honestly have not heard them laid out.


How about this? Pertinent to what's currently going on in America with some foreign policy (albeit with regard to Ukraine but certainly relevant to the broader world picture in general and new events as they transpire [Trump seems to keep adding more to his Agenda47 depending on what's required]):


This is my Trump thread after all, so I'll share a link to all his Agenda47 video announcements. Trump addresses the issues America faces and provides polished solutions. Trump is definitely backed by something huge. Looks like the military to me. He's about as confident and courageous as they get.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47
.

Link to post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120906-Trump-The-World-s-Greatest-Troll&p=1581144&viewfull=1#post1581144


:focus:

[ExomatrixTV]

A View From Israel: David Icke talks with Israeli freedom and peace activist Shai Danon (Powerful):

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David Icke - what's REALLY happening in Israel (1.1 Million Views in 2 days):


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[Bill Ryan]

From The Moon of Alabama today. The faux title is deliberately ironic.

(There's a video out there today, openly published by Israel, showing Hamas soldiers surrendering to the Israeli IDF — and all immediately being shot dead.)


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/israel-confesses-war-crime.html#more

Israel Confesses War Crime

No, not really. Israel did not confess war crimes. It never does. It proudly announced that it will now commit a war crime (https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-fighting-human-animals-defence-minister):
Israel's defence minister described Palestinians as "human animals" and vowed to "act accordingly," as fighter jets unleashed a massive bombing campaign on the Gaza Strip. Yoav Gallant announced a "complete siege" of the Gaza Strip, an area of about 365 square km, and home to 2.3 million Palestinians, which has been under an Israeli-led blockade since 2007.
"I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed," Gallant said.
"We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly," he added.
The Israeli air force has dropped 2,000 munitions and more than 1,000 tonnes of bombs on Gaza in the last 20 hours, the army said on Monday morning, having shelled 20 high-rise residential buildings, mosques, hospitals, banks and other civilian infrastructure.


---

Ragıp Soylu @ragipsoylu - 13:37 UTC · Oct 10, 2023 (https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1711737598618587552) Israel military spokesman Daniel Hagari said that the army drops hundreds of tons of bombs in attacks in the Gaza Strip, and —— "the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy.”
— Haaretz|


---


Haaretz commentator Gideon Levy:
Israel Can’t Imprison Two Million Gazans Without Paying a Cruel Price (https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2023-10-09/ty-article-opinion/.premium/israel-cant-imprison-2-million-gazans-without-paying-a-cruel-price/0000018b-1476-d465-abbb-14f6262a0000) (archived (https://archive.ph/E4fDf))


...


On Saturday they were already talking about wiping out entire neighborhoods in Gaza, about occupying the Strip and punishing Gaza “as it has never been punished before.” But Israel hasn’t stopped punishing Gaza since 1948, not for a moment. After 75 years of abuse, the worse possible scenario awaits it once again. The threats of “flattening Gaza” prove only one thing: We haven’t learned a thing. The arrogance is here to stay, even though Israel is paying a high price once again.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu bears very great responsibility for what happened, and he must pay the price, but it didn’t start with him and it won’t end after he goes. We now have to cry bitterly for the Israeli victims, but we should also cry for Gaza.
Gaza, most of whose residents are refugees created by Israel. Gaza, which has never known a single day of freedom.
The Israeli government has called up (https://www.ynetnews.com/article/skjioozwt) another 360,000 reservists for a total of 660,000 reservists plus the 170,000 in the regular standing forces. Israel's total labor force is 4.4 million.

This is not sustainable for more than a week or two. With 660,000 mostly young people, 15% of the total workforce, suddenly absent, Israel's economy will immediately tank. The Shekel and the Israeli stock market have already dropped significantly and the central bank had to intervene (https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/10/9/bank-of-israel-to-sell-30bn-of-forex-after-shekel-falls) to keep the currency stable.

Meanwhile 200,000 out of a total of 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza are now displaced (https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rjczodfza). Israel bombed their homes to smithereens and they have nowhere to go.

A few days ago Netanyahu told people in Gaza to leave. The only place they theoretically could go is Egypt. Today Israel bombed the Rafah border crossing (https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1711743594682339838) between Gaza and Egypt.

A ground invasion of Gaza will be difficult and likely lead to massacres - on both sides. Hezbollah in Lebanon and Syria would likely see a ground invasion of Gaza as a reason to intervene. It has missiles and drones that are precise and can reach any part of Israel. Israel may then retaliate by attacking the Syrian government. Iran and Russia would thereby get involved in the war. The U.S. of course would jump in on Israel's side.

This war could really, really escalate and do so soon.

[SilentFeathers]

Food for thought....

Does anyone actually believe that Israel can go into Gaza and eradicate Hamas without killing 10's of thousands of unarmed civilian men, women, and children?
I don't blame Israel for wanting revenge and wanting Hamas eliminated, but I doubt if the world will stand by quietly and watch 1000's of unarmed civilians being slaughtered because they just happened to be in the way. I see Israel going forward with this regardless.

Another thing I've noticed after watching several clips of these Hamas fighters attacking these Israeli towns etc., is that I personally don't believe they were all Hamas fighters. Many of them "to me" appeared to look like ISIS fighters. Many clips looked like they could have been clips straight out of Syria and Iraq from a few years back. I'm not implying that these Hamas clips were fake, I'm implying that I personally believe that many of these fighters could have been battle hardened ISIS fighters that re-grouped with Hamas a few years ago. Many in the news media and witnesses on the ground have also said that this attack appeared to be different from anything they've seen before from Hamas. This has ISIS written all over it in my opinion. I may be wrong but I personally do NOT believe this was just Hamas fighters from Gaza who did this.

I watched the Biden speech today....I'm sorry folks but I do NOT believe a single word that ever comes out of this idiot's mouth. He is so on board with Israel and with what Israel is about to do in Gaza it's got me scratching my head and only confirming in my own mind that something way bigger is going on here than just Israel going into Gaza and wiping out Hamas. This is a 180 from how the Obama/Biden admin was with Israel and even how Biden was with Israel just 2 years ago. I don't think it'll take but a week, maybe two, before the true plan will be clear to see. It's looking more and more like Iran is the target in my opinion. I also personally believe than many on the far left in the Democratic party were fuming and had blood squirting out of their eyes after Biden's speech today!

As for the US, specifically relating to an event happening within its borders, I stick with what I said in an earlier post.... something big is going to happen sooner rather than later.

Rregardless of whatever is coming or whatever is going to happen, I find it completely astonishing how so many people on this planet can be so easily manipulated.

[shaberon]

In addition to the above--i. e., you don't shoot surrendered POWs--we see, at the very least, intentional attacks on Gaza civilians, the likely use of white phosphorous, and, an attempt to blockade the entire region from everything.

Is it possible to commit a bigger crime? Not really.

It is like the cryptically hidden confessions of the 1950s, except now they say it in the news.

Those horrifying things that would have originally prevented American support for Israel, such as its gangsterish and terroristic ways? Normalized. To the drone mind, anyway. Take in German Nazis, install Israeli equivalents. What a foreign policy.




By now it is at the beginning of Islamic Jihad and Hamas (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1924276) both firing on Tel Aviv and Ben Gurion airport.


Despite the logistical barrier, here is the statement from that resistor of Saudi Arabia, Yemen (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1925629):



Leader of Ansarullah Movement Sayyed Abdul Malik Badreddine Al-Houthi stressed that Yemen is ready to participate even in waging rocketry and drone attacks if the Americans intervene directly in the Zionist aggression on Gaza.

In a televised speech on Tuesday, Sayyed Al-Houthi hailed the Palestinian Resistance fighters, felicitating all the Palestinians on the great victory of Al-Aqsa Flood Operation.

“Should the geographical barriers be removed, hundreds of thousands of Yemeni fighters are ready to back the Palestinian resistance against the Zionist aggression on Gaza.”

Sayyed Al-Houthi affirmed that Ansarullah Movement is in full coordination with the axis of resistance in order to maintain certain redlines, stressing that the Palestinian fighters will not be left alone.

He lauded the recent surprise attack by Gaza-based resistance groups against the Israeli occupying regime as a momentous “historic victory” that has disrupted established equations and inflicted substantial losses on the illegitimate entity.

In his address, he emphasized that “Operation al-Aqsa Storm” constituted a “legitimate” response to decades of Israeli aggression and atrocities against Palestinians. Since the operation began on Saturday, resistance groups in the besieged Gaza Strip have launched over 5,000 rockets towards the occupied territories. Israeli media outlets report that more than 1,000 settlers and soldiers have been killed, with many more injured as a result.

Al-Houthi stated, “Operation al-Aqsa Storm is a monumental and essential operation that aligns with the legitimate rights of Palestinian fighters and the Palestinian people. It enables them to confront their oppressive, criminal occupiers—the enemy who subjects them to various injustices and daily violence.” He further highlighted that Israel not only kills innocent civilians, including children and women, but also denies them their fundamental rights, including the right to independence and freedom, while unlawfully occupying their land.

Describing “al-Aqsa Storm” as an “unprecedented historic victory” achieved through the heroic resistance effort, al-Houthi stressed that it had significant repercussions, breaking established norms and inflicting losses on the ruthless Zionist enemy.

He underlined the enduring oppression faced by the Palestinian people since the establishment of the usurping Israeli regime, which has systematically practiced injustice and tyranny against them. He noted, “The origins of this regime are steeped in crime, murder, attacks in various forms, land usurpation, rights confiscation, and the abduction and torture of the Palestinian people.”

Al-Houthi also called out Western governments and the United States for their complicity in Israeli crimes against Palestinians, emphasizing, “Since its inception, the Israeli regime has been nurtured by arrogant colonial powers, starting with Britain and culminating with the US. It has consistently enjoyed unwavering support from Americans and Western nations.” He asserted that the US bears responsibility for its partnership in the Israeli enemy’s criminal actions against innocent civilians, especially women and children.

Al-Houthi further contended that ‘Israel’ lacks legitimacy and criticized the international community and world bodies for their inaction regarding Israel’s decades-long aggression against Palestinians. He questioned the United Nations’ effectiveness in addressing the plight of the Palestinian people and argued that Israel’s UN membership should be reconsidered due to its lack of legitimacy.

In his televised address, Al-Houthi commended the combat readiness of Palestinian resistance fighters in Gaza, noting their significant capabilities and tangible achievements over the years. He called upon everyone to support the Palestinian people and their resistance fighters through political, media, and even military means. Al-Houthi stressed that it is unacceptable to witness the Palestinian people and their heroic fighters receive limited support while Western countries continue to back the oppressive Zionist enemy.

Lastly, Al-Houthi condemned the “shameful” normalization efforts by certain Arab countries, asserting that such actions undermine the Palestinian people’s struggle by isolating them from crucial support. He emphasized the importance of standing in solidarity with the Palestinian cause against the backdrop of normalization agreements that compromise the Palestinians’ quest for justice and liberation.


It would take someone like Egypt to green light their passage, and then they would probably have to defeat the American Navy in the Red Sea, otherwise this would be happening at once. On the level of popular will, it is very true, but I am npt aware they have any means of force projection.


Notice that the bordering state actor, Syria, has almost nothing to say. They don't need to. For them not to have hardly taken any shots for the past several years while Israel continues to attack their country is somewhat dignified.


On our lovely divisions, one may see that Judaism hovers around .2% of the world's population.

Islam is rapidly growing, everywhere, and is up to around 30%. The reasons and solidarity here should be fairly obvious.

The big contender is actually moving (https://lausanne.org/content/lga/2021-03/is-christianity-shrinking-or-shifting):



One of the major religion-related news headlines today revolves around the decline of Christianity in North America. Western Europe is now considered post-Christian and surveys consistently report declines in religious belief, attendance, and self-identification. Yet, over the last century, there has been a pronounced shift of Christianity from the Global North to the Global South, with dramatic growth of Christian populations in places like sub-Saharan Africa and East Asia.


It's not fast enough to pull the plug on American Zionism today, but it does show a lack of solidarity.

[ExomatrixTV]

2015: US Officials Ask How ISIS Got So Many Brand New White Toyota Trucks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq_iP5lQsAU) in Syria?

2023: The World Ask How HAMAS Got So Many White Toyota (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWxC3I_GdP8) Trucks


Did not USA help ISIS in Syria (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGGa7y87rZE)? Calling them "Syrian Rebels" ... Same trick USA used in Libya: ..."Libyan Rebels" also helped by The USA that were brutal savages!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

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The Israeli Air Force attacked the border checkpoint in the city of Rafah, on the border with Egypt.

From the very beginning of the current conflict, Palestinian residents have been trying en masse to cross this border crossing point into Egyptian territory, fleeing attacks from the Israeli army.

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1) At least 1,000 Israelis and 830 Palestinians have been killed, with thousands wounded on both sides

2) The prosecutor for the International Criminal Court said the court’s mandate applies to the current conflict, as it has an ongoing investigation for alleged war crimes committed since 13 June 2014

3) A senior Hamas official denied reports that Iran was involved in the planning of the Palestinian attack on Israel

4) A Palestinian Liberation Organisation official said that Israel refused a request to bring food and medical supplies into Gaza

5) US President Biden gave a public address on the Israel-Palestine war. He said at least 14 Americans have been killed so far and that the US is surging increased military assistance to Israel. He made no mention of Israel’s large-scale bombardment of Gaza or its decision to impose a full siege

6) Thousands gathered in Amman protest in solidarity with Gaza

7) The EU foreign policy chief said that while Israel has the right to defend itself, some of the decisions it has made are against international law. He also said that stopping aid to Palestinians would be a mistake

8) UK Home Secretary Braverman sent a letter advising that the police should consider whether to view acts like waving the Palestinian flag or chanting “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, as a crime

9) 177,000 people in Gaza are sheltering in UNRWA schools

10) Turkish Airlines suspended flights to Israel until further notice, according to several Turkish media reports

11) The number of French citizens killed in the attacks in Israel rose to at least eight

12) Sweden is temporarily halting development aid to Palestine

13) Turkey’s Erdogan said Israel has ‘no right’ to cut off water to Gaza

14) The Scottish first minister called on the UK government to push for a corridor to evacuate civilians from Gaza. He also revealed that his parents-in-law are “trapped” in Gaza, amid four consecutive days of Israeli air strikes

15) Renewed gun fights between Israeli troops and Palestinian fighters were reported in Sderot, Israeli media

16) Israel’s military announced that its army was firing artillery at rocket launch sites in Lebanon

17) Heavy rockets hit Ashkelon with casualties reported

18) Rockets were fired simultaneously from Lebanon and Gaza towards Israel, with sirens blaring in southern and northern Israel

19) Two members of Hamas’ political bureau, including an economy minister of the Gaza-based administration, were killed in Israeli air strikes

20) An Israeli military general doubled down on his defence minister’s labelling of Palestinians as “human animals” and vowed to give them “hell”

21) Egyptian fuel trucks and relief materials were filmed leaving the vicinity of the Rafah crossing between Gaza and Egypt

22) A military source at the Jordanian military denied reports that the US army used a base in Jordan to transport supplies to Israel, according to Jordanian media

23) Sirens were activated in Tel Aviv and across Israel, the Israeli army said

24) Russia’s President Putin said the sharp escalation of the Israel-Palestinian conflict was a vivid example of the US’ policy failure in the Middle East

25) The spokesman of Hamas’ Izzideen al-Qassam Brigades said Ashkelon residents should leave the coastal Israeli city before 5 pm local time (2pm GMT)

26) An Israeli army spokesperson said that “accuracy” is not the primary concern when it comes to attacking the Gaza Strip

27) Israel said it will bomb trucks carrying supplies from Egypt to Gaza, according to Israel’s Channel 12

28) The Palestinian health ministry in Gaza said it is facing difficulties updating the death toll regularly due to disruptions to internet and communication networks

29) PM Netanyahu’s Likud party released a statement saying that all coalition partners in the government now favour the creation of an “emergency” national unity government

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[Bill Ryan]

Food for thought....

Does anyone actually believe that Israel can go into Gaza and eradicate Hamas without killing 10's of thousands of unarmed civilian men, women, and children?
I don't blame Israel for wanting revenge and wanting Hamas eliminated, but I doubt if the world will stand by quietly and watch 1000's of unarmed civilians being slaughtered because they just happened to be in the way. I see Israel going forward with this regardless.

Another thing I've noticed after watching several clips of these Hamas fighters attacking these Israeli towns etc., is that I personally don't believe they were all Hamas fighters. Many of them "to me" appeared to look like ISIS fighters. Many clips looked like they could have been clips straight out of Syria and Iraq from a few years back. I'm not implying that these Hamas clips were fake, I'm implying that I personally believe that many of these fighters could have been battle hardened ISIS fighters that re-grouped with Hamas a few years ago. Many in the news media and witnesses on the ground have also said that this attack appeared to be different from anything they've seen before from Hamas. This has ISIS written all over it in my opinion. I may be wrong but I personally do NOT believe this was just Hamas fighters from Gaza who did this.

I watched the Biden speech today....I'm sorry folks but I do NOT believe a single word that ever comes out of this idiot's mouth. He is so on board with Israel and with what Israel is about to do in Gaza it's got me scratching my head and only confirming in my own mind that something way bigger is going on here than just Israel going into Gaza and wiping out Hamas. This is a 180 from how the Obama/Biden admin was with Israel and even how Biden was with Israel just 2 years ago. I don't think it'll take but a week, maybe two, before the true plan will be clear to see. It's looking more and more like Iran is the target in my opinion. I also personally believe than many on the far left in the Democratic party were fuming and had blood squirting out of their eyes after Biden's speech today!

As for the US, specifically relating to an event happening within its borders, I stick with what I said in an earlier post.... something big is going to happen sooner rather than later.

Rregardless of whatever is coming or whatever is going to happen, I find it completely astonishing how so many people on this planet can be so easily manipulated.In response to all the excellent points you made here, I'd like to add one more, which is simple and seems to me to be a matter of pure logical inference.

IF the events that happened when Hamas suddenly attacked Israel were in some way orchestrated, encouraged, allowed to happen, or in any other way engineered by western and/or Israeli agencies (and so all is NOT what it immediately seems)

THEN it means that a wider regional war, and possibly something that would escalate close to WWIII, is also part of that same plan and may now be hard to avoid.

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[SilentFeathers]

2015: US Officials Ask How ISIS Got So Many Brand New White Toyota Trucks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq_iP5lQsAU) in Syria?

2023: The World Ask How HAMAS Got So Many White Toyota (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWxC3I_GdP8) Trucks


Did not USA help ISIS in Syria (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGGa7y87rZE)? Calling them "Syrian Rebels" ... Same trick USA used in Libya: ..."Libyan Rebels" also helped by The USA that were brutal savages!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳


Those white vehicles in the clips are exactly what made me think it was ISIS doing these attacks alongside with the Hamas fighters.

[ExomatrixTV]

Deep Intel on Why a US Carrier is Headed to the Israel-Hamas War:

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Ward reviews the basics around the arrival of the Ford Strike Group in the eastern Mediterranean following the Hamas attack on Israel.

[SilentFeathers]

Food for thought....

Does anyone actually believe that Israel can go into Gaza and eradicate Hamas without killing 10's of thousands of unarmed civilian men, women, and children?
I don't blame Israel for wanting revenge and wanting Hamas eliminated, but I doubt if the world will stand by quietly and watch 1000's of unarmed civilians being slaughtered because they just happened to be in the way. I see Israel going forward with this regardless.

Another thing I've noticed after watching several clips of these Hamas fighters attacking these Israeli towns etc., is that I personally don't believe they were all Hamas fighters. Many of them "to me" appeared to look like ISIS fighters. Many clips looked like they could have been clips straight out of Syria and Iraq from a few years back. I'm not implying that these Hamas clips were fake, I'm implying that I personally believe that many of these fighters could have been battle hardened ISIS fighters that re-grouped with Hamas a few years ago. Many in the news media and witnesses on the ground have also said that this attack appeared to be different from anything they've seen before from Hamas. This has ISIS written all over it in my opinion. I may be wrong but I personally do NOT believe this was just Hamas fighters from Gaza who did this.

I watched the Biden speech today....I'm sorry folks but I do NOT believe a single word that ever comes out of this idiot's mouth. He is so on board with Israel and with what Israel is about to do in Gaza it's got me scratching my head and only confirming in my own mind that something way bigger is going on here than just Israel going into Gaza and wiping out Hamas. This is a 180 from how the Obama/Biden admin was with Israel and even how Biden was with Israel just 2 years ago. I don't think it'll take but a week, maybe two, before the true plan will be clear to see. It's looking more and more like Iran is the target in my opinion. I also personally believe than many on the far left in the Democratic party were fuming and had blood squirting out of their eyes after Biden's speech today!

As for the US, specifically relating to an event happening within its borders, I stick with what I said in an earlier post.... something big is going to happen sooner rather than later.

Rregardless of whatever is coming or whatever is going to happen, I find it completely astonishing how so many people on this planet can be so easily manipulated.In response to all the excellent points you made here, I'd like to add one more, which is simple and seems to me to be a matter of pure logical inference.

IF the events that happened when Hamas suddenly attacked Israel were in some way orchestrated, encouraged, allowed to happen, or in any other way engineered by western and/or Israeli agencies (and so all is NOT what it immediately seems)

THEN it means that a wider regional war, and possibly something that would escalate close to WWIII, is also part of that same plan and may now be hard to avoid.

I totally think this is what's happening. A wider regional war in the Middle East would distract from the many crimes and extreme corruption being exposed now. (especially in Ukraine and involving many politicians). The military industrial complex will be back in business bigtime and that will prop the dollar up for a while longer. I could go on and on, regardless, WW3 is a huge possibility.

Also, a huge event inside the US would cause chaos and most likely put everyone on lockdown again. Basically, it'll be martial law like again and cause the next election to be done by mail so they can control the outcome (or no election at all). Either way the Democrats and shadow gov will remain in power. They will never allow Trump back in office, they're making that clear now.
It'll be really bad here in the US if a bunch of fighters shoot up some places here like they did in Israel. It'll make the covid lockdown look like a child's play! Plus, the military would be active within the US hunting these fighters down and everyone would be freaking out for months. Things would be a huge mess.

I can almost see this playing out clear as day in my head. I've been wrong before, hopefully I am wrong again this time.

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Video footage shows Israeli forces shooting four surrendering Palestinians in the back, after which they placed weapons next to the unarmed bodies for a staged victory shot.

In the published video, at the moment of their attempt to surrender, the Palestinians are unarmed. However, in the photos taken after the shooting, each of them miraculously appears to have a rifle in their hands.

It's worth noting that the video was published by an official Israeli military media outlet.


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Information about the “beheading of 40 babies” by Hamas militants is not confirmed

“Journalist” Nicole Zedek writes that she received information about the “beheading” from IDF soldiers and did not see the corpses of the children herself.

Anodulu also reports that the IDF has no information to support the accusations against Hamas.

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[nzn]

The Anglo-Saxon Mission still on course.

[shaberon]

THEN it means that a wider regional war, and possibly something that would escalate close to WWIII, is also part of that same plan and may now be hard to avoid.



I'd suggest the caveat that Islamic Resistance has been around since at least the time of the Suez Canal so this is nothing new. No wider plan is called for or necessary.


Granted that this flies in the face of those who at least consider themselves such arch planners.

It appears that the hope was for "Saudi & Israeli coalition" and it is this which is being stopped.

I would say that Afghanistan, Syria, Ukraine, and this, represent loss of control by tentacles.

As of an hour ago, which probably means two in the morning (https://tass.com/world/1688059) there:


TEL AVIV, October 11. /TASS/. The first US plane carrying a load of munitions for the Israeli armed forces arrived in the country in the early hours of Wednesday, the press service of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) said.

“The first plane, loaded with US munitions, has landed in Israel. The plane with advanced ammunition landed at the at the Nevatim Airbase this night. The munitions are intended for carrying out significant strikes and preparing for additional scenarios,” the IDF press service said in a statement.




We don't know what it is, but, we do know it will be used indiscriminately against a twenty mile city.

My guess would be that Al Qassam cannot really hold territory and may be forced to hunt for clusters of human shields. So, by conscripting 15% of the workforce, this would perhaps be followed by evacuations, so their economy will tank and Biden will give them a cookie consisting of your great-grandchildren's mortgaged future. As long as the ammunition can be passed, it need not look like America committing genocide on tv.

Although they have made some quite bold statements, realistically they do not have to plan on holding territory forever, but perhaps wait until the world sees Israel for being such maniacs, and the Israelis stop shooting, then they can talk and go back to Gaza and Saud can negotiate with its regional partners exactly what coalition they are in.

The Saudis have surprised me by being adaptive and changing their ways especially with regard to the petro-dollar, and they went with US military intelligence on this one and perhaps now they may understand that Muslims don't like it. There is no realistic need of them having any security arrangement with Israel.


This could be called mutual cross-border probes (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1922505):


The Israeli enemy in the region launched a barrage of missiles toward this vicinity.

In the Galilee region along the border with Lebanon, settlers have been advised to remain indoor due to concerns about armed individuals infiltrating the area.

A video circulating on social media shows artillery shelling and a gunfight on the borders of Al-Dhahira in southern Lebanon’s western sector.

According to the National News Agency, there has been an expansion in the Israeli artillery shelling, with the outskirts of Aita al-Shaab town in the Bint Jbeil district being targeted. Additionally, there have been reports of frequent low-altitude flights of spy planes in the southern skies.

The Israeli military confirmed the deployment of troops in response to a suspected infiltration from Lebanon. Local radio stations indicated that this incident seemed to have occurred in the central part of the border with Lebanon. The military issued a statement, stating, “A report was received regarding the infiltration of a number of suspects into Israeli territory from Lebanese territory. Israeli soldiers are deployed in the area.”

The Israeli media reported that six Zionist soldiers were injured in the attack.

[Samurai]

Israeli Flashpoint - Localized Skirmish? Or the Beginning of Major Global Black Swan?
Simplicius The Thinker
9 Oct 2023

The irruption in Israel caught many of us off guard. But to some extents it was a long-expected flashpoint escalation meant to begin the denouement of the Ukrainian conflict, by taking heat off from it.

There are many circulating accounts of all the things that seem “off” about Hamas’ attack, so I won’t recount every single point here as most of you have likely read them in multiple places; things like the very implausible breach of Israel’s high tech gates and defenses, to the unprecedented failures of Mossad and Shin Bet, to Netanyahu’s eerily scripted invocation of ‘Pearl Harbor’, which is very telling considering that Pearl Harbor was also a falseflag attack with the purpose of bringing the U.S. into WW2.

Recall that Hamas was partly or entirely created by Israel—a fact confessed to by several high ranking Israeli officials—as a counterweight to the PLO, the dominant political group at the time. So it’s not out of the question that a group created by Israel and Western intelligence outfits can potentially still be under their control or at least infiltrated to the extent of being ‘steered’ into creating certain needed falseflags which could benefit Israel as a whole. This is supported by new evidence reportedly coming out that Hamas was using Ukrainian-supplied weaponry, which would indicate a fairly standard Western intel weapons pipeline a la the Contras, et al.

The primary principle that I operate under is that almost no global event happens by pure happenstance, particularly when it’s in a given related geopolitical sphere. And the Middle East is certainly tied, in many ways, to Russia, the Ukrainian war, and multipolarity in general.

Let’s go through some of the potential reasons that could be responsible for igniting such a conflict now of all times.

As a corollary to the general principle that nothing happens by happenstance in the world of great power politics, we must recall that everything that does happen is generally related to, or happens as a byproduct of—whether direct or indirect—the leading great power or superpower in charge; very little can happen under their purview without their go-ahead of some kind.

In this case we’re referring to the U.S., the chief Hegemon of the world. However, the U.S. isn’t the only big kid on the block anymore, and so we’re going to look at the possible reasons that both sides might have for sparking this flare up.

So what possible reasons could U.S. have for inflaming the Middle East?

We know that recently major strides toward multipolarity and the fracture of the Atlanticist world empire were being made. As a parallel to this, Israel was moving toward a serious normalization with Saudi Arabia, which is now being described by insiders as being “put on indefinite hold” because KSA required various concessions toward Palestinians from Israel—which is now a dead issue.

In many ways, such reconciliations, rapprochements, normalizations, etc., are dangerous developments for the Hegemon. War and conflict are the most effective tools in controlling events and creating favorable conditions for domination, allowing the creation of division, the weakening of intransigent countries, ousting of their leaders, etc.

First we must remember that Benjamin Netanyahu himself was facing increased unpopularity at home, with rumors long suggesting that even the Mossad was helping to stage protests against him (revealed in the Pentagon leaks early this year).

One of the most commonly utilized methods for a ‘strong man’ leader to assert his strength, win back support, and consolidate power is to foment some type of conflict which can be used to create “emergency” restrictions on opponents, suppression of political speech, etc. This is obviously a widely used tactic—most recently by Zelensky—and doesn’t need much explanation.

One can easily imagine how an embattled Netanyahu would seek to stir up a conflict to redirect patriotism and wreathe himself in “glory” by destroying Hamas once and for all, which would secure his power and legacy for all time.

Extrapolating this out, there could have been a convergence of mutually beneficial incentives. Knowing Netanyahu’s situation, the U.S./UK may have decided to work out a mutual deal by which multiple birds are killed with one stone. Netanyahu gets his power consolidation and glory, while U.S./UK get to potentially wage a war to weaken the now unstoppably ascendant Iran.

That brings us to the next big motivation. One of the chief reasons for this sudden flare up may be to instigate a much larger conflagration in order to fatally weaken Iran, which has been gaining inordinate geopolitical power lately. This isn’t mere speculation, but is now being openly hinted at in a variety of ways by the West.

Firstly the new bombshell that “Iran helped plan” this Hamas attack:

And the slow rising chorus of Western politicians threatening Iran directly:

If you’ll recall, the West has been chafing to clip Iran’s wings for the past year like never before. That’s because Iran has been getting increasingly dominant in the region, particularly following all the recent rapprochements, and as a result of how instrumental it’s been in the various energy wars and geopolitically—helping Russia in Ukraine, etc. Iran’s stock has risen enormously, and it was becoming far too large a threat.

Furthermore, recall the Syria theater has slowly begun activating lately as well, partly owing to the Ukrainian war, as a U.S. vector to weaken and divide Russian efforts. But also because Iran has been making headway there as well, with Israeli strikes being less effective and less frequent, while U.S. troops and bases have been under increased attack from Iranian proxies.

Assad, meanwhile, has likewise been growing in strength, jet-setting around the globe, making new deals. He met the Saudi minister for the first time since 2011, visited China for the first time since 2004, and other such feats.

Viewed from this holistic lens, we can infer that the U.S. hegemon may want to embroil the Middle East in a large conflict in order to weaken their increasingly strengthening adversaries. Officially they claim to be peacemakers who are ‘blindsided’ by developments and seek to curtail any escalations:

But in fact the U.S. just announced the dispatching of the USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier battlegroup to the eastern Mediterranean region. You don’t send that much firepower if you mean to make peace and de-escalate. Not to mention U.S. military C17 cargo planes have already been landing in Israel, likely transporting new arms.

It’s very easy to see how they might, for instance, link Iran’s involvement in the Hamas attacks to a perceived ‘growing Iranian threat’ in Syria, and include that in a wider future offensive where joint Israeli-American squadrons can bomb and weaken Assad’s forces, infrastructure, etc., to keep Syria down. Martyanov covers this at length in his new video, including the military-specific prospects of such a hypothetical attack on Iran.

But of course, as per Lindsey Graham’s above threats, this could be taken much further. They may have an entire war to cripple Iran planned, at least its oil refineries, which would cripple Iran’s economy and gut its influence. Pepe Escobar discusses such potentialities in his new post:

Yet there's WAY more.

The dead giveaway is the Israeli rhetoric of a 'Pearl Harbor'. Everyone knows what it means. Project Ukraine is dead. So the Masters of the Universe need a new war ("on terror") to set West Asia on fire.

Peaceful West Asia means reconstruction for Syria, redevelopment for Iraq and Lebanon, Iran and Saudi Arabia as part of BRICS 11, the Russia-China strategic partnership respected and engaged all across West Asia.

The Northern Sea Route is already in effect, directly undermining the Suez Canal. One of the key themes discussed at Valdai at the highest level was de-dollarization. All of the above is anathema for the usual suspects.

Mossad and IDF caught by surprise is childish fantasy. They knew it was coming. The question now is whether Hezbollah will be coming to town.

The projects he mentions, the complete collapse of the Western dominated system, is a key hinge point. Refamiliarize yourself with my article on the Heartland, and why this ‘middle passage’ through Iran is absolutely critical for the Hegemon to win the world.

Now that the West is on the brink, they may be going ‘all out’ to try and neuter Iran once and for all, which would have a domino effect on the entire region. Iran cut down would mean Syria’s fall, which would mean Russia booted out and its bases closed up, which would mean any Russian power projection to that region nullified, particularly now that the northern routes will be completely NATO dominated, with Finland and potentially Sweden joining.

Ultimately that would serve a much larger purpose—there are always designs within designs.

The ultimate grand scheme revolves around the Ukraine war, which itself revolves around the future China-Taiwan conflict.

There could be a variety of reasons to spark this conflict now, vis a vis Ukraine. One of the foremost things that comes to mind is to create a massive smokescreen to divert coverage of the Ukrainian conflict while the Biden administration quietly enacts its plan—which we discussed at length in the last report—to put Zelensky on ice and freeze the war.

Several recent articles denoted just how little media coverage Ukraine has been getting recently, charts showing the slow decline, particularly ever since the realities of the failed offensive set in. Now it’s bound to disappear entirely from the news cycle, replaced with the growing Israeli conflict and endless shrieks of outrage of committed atrocities—you know the same ones carried out daily by the AFU on Donbass, which somehow fail to garner the same media attention.

Someone had recently asked me—I forget if it was in the comments section or in one of the mailbags—how do I envision that they’ll be able to sweep the Ukrainian conflict under the rug in the future. I gave several potential methods, one of which was they can spark some other new global flashpoint to divert attention. I even gave some examples, like pushing the Azerbaijan-Armenia situation into something bigger, working up the Serbia-Kosovo hostilities, which have been simmering for some time now; but this is one I admittedly did not foresee.

In many ways, it’s the most brilliant one of all. Because nothing buys media outrage like attacks on Israel, or so it seems. The media doesn’t care about murdered Armenians, or any other country for that matter. So if your chief objective is to create the biggest media smokescreen to completely distract away Ukraine coverage, then this is the one.

But I know what you’re thinking. Israel may do a ‘quick’ clean up job on Hamas and be done with it, returning all the attention back on Ukraine.

That’s why for this theory to work, it would likely have to spark a wider conflict, perhaps involving Iran. Then the U.S. could even have an excuse to dump Ukraine, one that would actually pass muster with the most rabid pro-Ukrainian members of Congress. For instance: “We had to send all our money to help save Israel.” Certainly no one in U.S.-Israeli-owned Congress would pearl-clutch or hand-wring about U.S. blowing its Ukrainian ear-marked cash on Israel instead.

It could give the Biden administration a valid, defensible excuse to dump Ukraine. Keep in mind, I’m not yet fully supporting this theory as the main motivation for the current conflict, but am offering it up as a potential one. I myself am not yet totally decided, as I’m still gathering data and waiting for more events to transpire to furnish us with clues.

Are there any additional clues to support this?

Exhibit A and B:

We’re already witness to the media conditioning us for the reality that U.S. will have to use its preciously drained munitions stockpiles for Israel, prioritizing their first beloved over their second newly-christened one. You can easily imagine the consequent excuse in the future: “We had more pressing needs, so we couldn’t fund/supply Ukraine anymore!”

Absolution will be given because everyone in the U.S. establishment understands the inviolable sacredness of Israel. How can anyone ever be blamed for prioritizing Israel over Ukraine? That’s simply unthinkable in the U.S.

Next:

Remember we had just discussed in my very last article the potential for U.S. dumping Ukraine, leaving them with no further funding, in light of the recent House shake-up?

This new announcement that Biden is set to make an attempt at one unprecedentedly hefty $100B gift to Ukraine is very interesting because it reeks of a final payoff, or send off. Almost like trying to ‘wash your hands’ of the conflict with one last conscience-clearing tranche. Most commentators agree though that this would merely be a performative stunt and would have no chance of passing, but perhaps it’s Biden’s way of washing his hands in order to create the perception that he “did all he could,” so that later on he can have that as part of his defense when Ukraine inevitably falls and he’s faced with career-ending criticism. He can say: “See, I tried my best to save them, I pledged $100B but those spoiling Republicans blocked me.”

So, could this be the beginning of something big meant to wipe the slate clean of Ukraine and perhaps even lead to another world-altering “event” that would allow the establishment to cancel/steal the 2024 elections?

Recall that the big Covid falseflag also began around the November period of the year right before the election cycle, i.e. late 2019.

Lastly, there are some chilling rumors that seem to suggest the neocons could go all in and execute a 9/11 style series of falseflags on U.S. soil to bring America entirely into war with Iran:

This is not implausible; the neocons may have done their own calculations and gamed it out to conclude that if they don’t take Iran out now, the U.S. is doomed. This could be the beginning of a giant conflagration that would satisfy some of the worst prophecies for 2024. I.e. there being no elections and a new global Black Swan event akin to the last election cycle’s Covid.

But now to turn to the other main possibility.

What if, instead, this entire event is an orchestration of Iran or the Russian-led bloc?

There are certainly a plethora of reasons for why that may be the case, not least of which is the fact that Iran recognizes that the U.S. (and the West) is now at its critically weakest because it has divested itself of all its arms to Ukraine:

We’ve already seen in recent times the urgent concern from congressional members that U.S. does not have enough arms for Taiwan, and must in the future choose between Ukraine and countering China. Now, Iran could have chosen to open up a new major front at a critical point when the U.S. is torn between its various geopolitical exigencies.

Another aspect possibly pointing to this is the seeming over-confidence displayed by Hamas. Most commentators can’t reconcile why Hamas appears to operate so presumptuously when—on paper—the IDF vastly overpowers them. I refer to, for instance, the fact that Hamas was said to reject any ceasefires because they intend to “go all the way”.

As we speak, latest reports claim upwards of 100,000 Israeli troops are heading to Gaza:

It seems inconceivable that Hamas would start such an operation without a contingency, particularly if Iran helped plan it. We know that Hezbollah has already stated it would intervene if the IDF enters Gaza.

Recall that only days ago, the U.S. shot down a very expensive and high-end Turkish drone over Syria, when said drone was reportedly coming close to bombing U.S. forces. Such developments speak of larger simmering tensions in the region.

Many now believe that Israel is set to fall into a “trap” set by Iran—whereby they enter Gaza and will have Hezbollah open up a second front. Hamas has already reportedly depleted much of Israel’s Iron Dome with their own cheap ‘bottle rockets’, and has thus paved the way for Hezbollah to demolish Israel with real Iranian-supplied firepower in the form of heavy SRBMs and drones, etc.

The plan could then be secretly aided by the entire Russian bloc due to the knowledge that such a widescale conflict could greatly benefit Russia and even China in a variety of ways.

The first and most obvious is it would take all U.S. attention away from Ukraine, forcing them to focus on combating Iran and its regional powers, which would allow Russia to swiftly finish off an abandoned Ukraine.

Secondly, and in aid to the first above, any conflict of this sort would send oil prices through the roof, which are already being estimated to go to $150 per barrel in the future. This would lead to Russia’s already-exorbitant fossil fuel profits to shoot through the roof, not only stabilizing its own economy but helping to finance the Ukraine war.

China of course could benefit in a similar way in having the U.S.’s attention diverted elsewhere, giving China breathing room to continue building up and consolidating its own regional strength while also depleting the U.S. and thus preventing it from ever funding/supplying Taiwan to substantial degrees.

This post encapsulates the theory:

Many appear confused about this, so let me clarify:

The current conflict in Palestine is geopolitical, and reflects the consolidation of one of the world's major Poles. It marks the second stage of the formation of the mutli-polar world, after Russia's SMO in February 2022.

Many people tend to focus exclusively on Hamas, and the unfolding news of the situation - as if this is if this reflects the same temporal plane as the strategy being employed. Make no mistake. This is an unprecedented combined arms operation and nothing in the 21st century comes close to it in the history of the conflict.

The fact that it caught the Israelis by surprise should tell you enough. If it caught the Mossad (one of the world's most powerful intelligence agencies) by surprise, what makes you think any of these idiot rightist grifters know what is yet to come? This was not some random lashing out by Hamas.

All of this was planned, in full coordination with the Axis of Resistance - and we are not even close to witnessing its full scope and scale. Every possible outcome was taken into consideration. Remember that everytime you hear Zionists talk about the 'big plans' the entity has in store to level Gaza. They have done that many times, it never worked.

Hamas has come out stronger than it ever has. And they also expect whatever the Zionist entity has in store. Because this isn't just Hamas. This is the entire Axis of Resistance, centered in Iran. Iran is one of the world's oldest, greatest, and most sophisticated civilizations. It is and has always been an organic civilizational Pole in the region.

Before the modern era, the sole two powers of the region were the Ottomans and the Persian Safavids, who competed over it. Behind this operation is the cunning, strategic genius, and eschatological materialism of the IRGC. And by the latter, I mean to say that they have combined what is a profound universal-regional spiritual vision with the pragmatism, realism, and earthiness of both modern technology and hyper-Clausewitzean irregular warfare techniques.

This war does not have a single location or even a single timeline. The scale at which it is occurring, is not immediately perceptible both in space AND time. These are the tremors felt by the resurrection of some of the world's most ancient, splendorous, and sublime empires.

This is the special military operation of the Middle East civilizations. Likewise this is not just about Israel. It is the New World Order's last outpost in the region. Israel was the Ukraine of the Middle East - a vain, artificial fortress of Western modernity created to suppress the real (and long dormant) powers indigenous to the region. This is a regional revolution that has the potential to culminate into a global war.

Russia has awakened ancient powers across the world. This is the end of Western 'rules based order.'

The above may read a touch maudlin and overly optimistic—I’m not necessarily endorsing it, at least not yet. It could very well be true.

One of the other reasons is that there have been far too many ‘coincidental’ uprisings against the Western order lately. Recall how many times we’ve discussed here Russia’s potential asymmetric role in the various African liberations currently flaming through the continent. You think it was an accident that led to things like this?

I was asked many times, during mailbags, comments, etc., on what if anything Russia planned to do to offset U.S.’s own constant hybrid warfare vis a vis the Ukrainian conflict. There are certainly a lot of “mysterious events” happening all over the world, which could answer that.

That’s why I won’t be surprised if the current confrontation is connected to the hybrid global war of East vs. West, or Global South vs. the Atlanticists.

Recall that great ancient civilizations think and plan in long term strategies. Could this in fact be a coordinated and carefully timed three-pronged attack—the first leg of which would be Russia taking out Ukraine, then Iran taking out Israel, finishing off with the coup de grace of China taking out Taiwan?

It’s certainly a very ambitious notion. But it matches what some other people have predicted for a while, like Zhirinovsky here from several years ago:

Another potential reason for why the banking cartel that runs the West needs a major war to flush the system:

Even by the standards of the last decade, which was just unprecedented in how much money the Federal Reserve printed, the past week saw another mind-bending printing run.

Particularly with all the de-dollarization going on, it can only mean that the Western financial system has never been in a more precarious state. The cartel needs some major global conflict so they can flush the system out, clear their books, and start the usury-fiat scam all over again from a clean slate.

But we’ll have to see how this conflict unfolds over the next week or two in order to truly judge if it’s some 5D Iranian master plan, or just a cheap ploy for Netanyahu to consolidate power and ink his legacy as the historic Israeli leader who crushed Hamas once and for all, clearing all his rotten misdeeds and corruption in one fell swoop.

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Videos and graphics to this artical can be found here...

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/israel-flashpoint-localized-skirmish

My apologies if this has been posted elsewhere.

[norman]

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[Rizotto]

Here is a little sidetrack into 1967 history, because of the latest news of a USA war ship in the Mediterranean in support of Isreal. This should make all of us wonder...

Who remembers the fate of the USS Liberty ship that was bombed by unmarked Israeli jets in 1967, although it was clearly marked as a USA ship, which killed and injured dozens of USA servicemen at the hand of their 'ally' Israel. At the time the Israelis denied doing this or tried to pass it off as a 'mistake', but it eventually transpired in Israel's own media that these Israeli fighter pilots had been ordered to attack the USA ship and knew exactly who they were attacking. Turned out that one Israeli fighter pilot refused to carry out those orders.

The Israelis tried to pass this attack as coming from Egypt, which would have then unleashed the USA military might against Egypt, at the time Isreal's strongest enemy, and possibly drawn the Soviets into the battle. But thankfully all this was averted because the truth came out that the attackers were Israelis.

USA servicemen who know history on the current USA ship near Isreal could be concerned about an impending attack, this time from 'Iran'. Isreal has been trying for decades to get the USA to launch a war against Iran, and they've got so many USA politicians doing their bidding. Do they care that this new false flag would look too much like an exact repeat of the 1968 USS Liberty fiasco? Probably not. After all, USA choose to ignore Isreal's perfidy and completely exonarated their dear 'ally', and they mostly abandonned the servicemen victims of this attack. Isreal's control over USA politicians is stunning.

Back to topic.

[shaberon]

HZB Destruction of a Zelda APC (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1926289) near Avivim 10/10.

Warhead appears to have detonated under the vehicle, seeming to cause a blow-through explosion of its own fuel.

Iraqi HZB (https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/11/712490/Iraq-Hezbollah-warns-US-against-aiding-Israel-Gaza-onslaught) threatens US bases locally and regionally.

Kadyrov makes some kind of offer of Chechen peacekeepers (https://english.almanar.com.lb/1924705), which sounds a bit sensitive because of being tied to the Russian state. I am not sure what he can really do, but, if he could, they would probably stand a better chance of arrival than the Yemenis.

Thousands of pro-Palestine protesters have rallied in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad to condemn the Israeli aggression against Palestinians in occupied territories.


Borell admits Israel commits crimes and does nothing.

Welcome to Gaza:

https://english.almanar.com.lb/framework/includes/uploads/2023/10/manar-04948830016967569526-1024x568.jpg


London (https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/11/712495/Waving-Palestinian-flag-could-be-criminal-offence-UK-home-secretary):


In yet another instance of the West’s unflinching support for the occupying Israeli regime, the British government has urged the police to consider whether waving a Palestinian flag could be a criminal offense.

https://cdn.presstv.ir/Photo/2023/10/11/01c3afb2-3615-466e-be81-3d66d797cb05.jpeg


Earlier in the day, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak accused Hamas of “barbaric acts of terrorism,” and said anyone in the UK supporting the resistance group would be held accountable.


Britain's London Luton Airport suspended all flights late on Tuesday as a car fire started in its parking lot.


Hasta la vista (https://southfront.press/palestinian-israeli-conflict-what-really-happened-in-first-days-of-war/):


First of all, one of the most serious circumstances are two groups of events, for the sake of which, in fact, the breakthrough of the Israeli border was organized:

1) Numerous liquidations of senior commanders and specialists from the Israel Defense Forces;
2) The seizure or infiltration of Israeli command posts.

At the current moment in the media there are circulating data about the deaths of 2 generals (Hamas also claims to have captured 4), 5 colonels, a lieutenant colonel and an IDF major. It is noteworthy, firstly, that the dead are related to the Israeli special operations forces and army intelligence, and secondly, that some of them were liquidated together with their families – this indicates a possible preliminary introduction of Hamas loyalists’ mop-up teams, which obliterated the command staff as early as the morning of October 7, thus paralyzing defense coordination in the south of Israel (and this probably explains the significant disorganization in the actions of the Israeli police and army).

Specifically known casualties among Israeli army personnel:

Ariel Ben Moshe, commander of the special forces company of Israel’s most elite unit, Sayeret Matkal. Also from the special unit “Sayeret Matkal” was killed its member Amir Skouri.

Amit Guetta, who is a member of Israel’s special sabotage unit Maglan, part of the 89th Oz Special Forces Brigade.

Shilo Cohen and Ido Rosenthal, who were members of the Israeli Air Force special unit “Shaldag”, their tasks were to scout for targets and guide aircraft to the target.

...every few hours a new name of a senior IDF officer who has been eliminated appears, a number that already exceeds the number of Israeli sergeants and lieutenants who have been killed...


...provoking the IDF into a large-scale ground operation in the Gaza Strip without adequate air and artillery support...

Videos are circulating on the internet with ex-military men’s findings that this military action is the result of betrayal by the Israeli army.

[shaberon]

USA servicemen who know history on the current USA ship near Isreal could be concerned about an impending attack, this time from 'Iran'. Isreal has been trying for decades to get the USA to launch a war against Iran, and they've got so many USA politicians doing their bidding. Do they care that this new false flag would look too much like an exact repeat of the 1968 USS Liberty fiasco?


Too much tracking. No one can really conceal a missile source anymore. Remember Trump's cruise missile barrage against Syria? Nothing hit.

If the Navy is in reach of Iran's missiles, and, they decide to shoot, then you simply have one less aircraft carrier. No denials or false attributions will be necessary.

American Servicemen know that their fate in a hot regional conflict is death within hours, possibly days. The military knows this. All they can do is use standoff weapons and proxy armies. That means they cannot really do anything to Iran. We just sent 3,000 troops to Oman. Who cares?

Due to surveillance, just like 9/11 and Nordstream could not have happened, this could not have happened, either. But because we are not dependent on western investigations, we get a quick, easy answer. Rogue elements of IDF have been working on this for years.

It is maybe a little weird, since, usually we would think they would turn a coup against their politicians, but, for some reason, they have only condemned other units to death. We don't know who or what they are beyond a few enablers.

I just read about a million people ready to put themselves in harm's way to stop Zion. But merely support from its supporters. That may mean it in fact has no allies.



The Yemen scenario, by contrast, is an almost exact re-run of the 1960s.

Zion is just a non-negotiable non-starter. It's like smashing your face on a brick wall over and over. When will the little puppies understand that no means no?

[Losus4]

https://i.imgur.com/qYSFgY5.png

[Rizotto]

Interesting interview between Bret Weinsten and Efrat Fenigson, an Israeli who reports the details of the mysterious lack of response from the IDF FOR HOURS ON END during the Hamas attack. (From 27:00 to 39:00 in the video below.)

The Israel Attacks: Beyond the Obvious with Efrat Fenigson
"Efrat Fenigson is an independent Journalist, Podcaster, Israeli Citizen & Covid dissident. In the wake of the October 7th terrorist attacks on Israel, she has provided insight into the situation from inside Israel on X (Twitter). Bret and Efrat discuss the current state of affairs and the situation unfolding as we speak. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_IAH7PnS_E