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Bill Ryan
30th November 2023, 16:19
Friends, I'm copying here an email I received from a long-time Avalon follower. She's asking for some support in understanding what she seems to be experiencing. Can anyone assist?
I've shared this in a publicly-visible section, so that she can see any replies without logging in.
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Disturbing visions
I have followed your work for many years. I am not a member of the forum but check in daily.
For months now I have had a disturbing vision. It has not changed and happens daily, and has gone on for months. I was hoping maybe someone on the forum could help. Now this happens while I am awake.
I see mountains and the soil is running downward like a river people trying to get out of the way. Sometimes I travel down into the earth and the same thing is happening, rivers of soil flowing downward. It just never ends, and is troubling to me, so hopefully someone can give me some prospective.
Thank you for all your work over the years
(name and email redacted)
DeDukshyn
30th November 2023, 16:51
I had a vivid dream recently that was similar. I was in a place that seemed like India, lots of old stone buildings, and makeshift housing. Large rocks flying through the air from the horizon and then earth flowing over the hills towards us, people trying to get to high ground - scrambling. Then water came.
I have interesting vivid dreams sometimes so I never really thought too much of it, other than it has been quite a while since I had a "vivid" dream that left me stirred when I awoke.
I have no insight, just a similar vision.
arwen
30th November 2023, 17:39
Yes, I have had quite a few of these myself. It is either a massive tsunami, or mud floods, mountains collapsing or torrential rain. In my dreams I am always observing in non corporeal form, untouched, but people are fleeing and trying to escape.
There are a lot of these cataclysmic weather events going on in the world for real.
I usually do not try and interpret my dreams, but in this instance I have two preliminary thoughts about it:
1) One could be connecting, in the morphic field, to what other people are experiencing in this world. What others experience en masse definitely does enter our psychic landscape even if we are not aware of the actual event or experiencing it ourselves;
2) The dreams could represent symbolically the complete paradigm shift our world is going through - everything that was trusted and relied on is breaking down, everything that was stable and solid is collapsing, and at this stage, it is not clear what will emerge afterwards so the disturbing aspect is from the experience of the collapse but without knowing what will follow.
Most people I know have a sense of unease, of feeling something massive impending.
Not sure if this is of any help, but I did relate to the intensity of these disturbing visions and I think more people are having them than we realize.
RunningDeer
30th November 2023, 20:21
Hello there, long-time Avalon follower. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/wave-hi.gif
My dreams have changed in the last several months. I’m grateful because to many were in a constrictive, classroom environment. The closest thing to a reoccurring catastrophic dream is when the earth is covered with water but with every step I take a sandbar makes way for me to travel. I’m unable to see far into the distance (future) but the water is calm and crystal clear. Which I take it to mean no storms ahead, and life is copacetic in any direction I choose.
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While driving to the market this morning I noticed that I kept dropping into alpha state. A recent practice of mine is to function while in alpha and theta states. After the market, I went for a walk and continued with the practice of a deeper states. That’s when I caught myself saying that ’I won’t be doing this much longer.’ A knowing quickly followed. The rational mind wondered 'how long is much longer?' and 'doing what?'
I sent greetings and a peaceful winter nap to the sleepy trees and the rest of the flora and fauna. I thanked them for their friendship and conversations while I considered what the flash of insight may be about. Time to move on? Time to move to the other place/realm that I strongly feel a part of while I close out this chapter? A paradigm shift?
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shaberon
30th November 2023, 21:59
My personal similarity would also be with Water.
I had ages of difficult dreams involving swamps and tidal waves, which took some twenty or thirty years to overcome. With that last scene which reduced the water to a trickle, it was done.
As you can see, Earth is a somewhat different factor, perhaps even more difficult.
For one thing, entering the interior of the planet is equal to Hell. This is like Dante's Inferno without the benefit of Virgil. It's a challenge. My first reaction is that in Indian metaphysics, hell denizens such as Prahlada (https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-vishnu-purana/d/doc57593.html) are among the top devotees of righteousness, moreso than most humans.
This is a serious issue; and my suggestion is equipoise, neither-attracted-nor-repelled.
The long-term solution is simply not to be disturbed by anything, and the words may be easy, but I do not know of accomplishment without a viable spiritual path. And there are a limited number of these. Moreover, we can sort them by seeing what is Not Adversarial towards the others. The most accessible ones are Orthodoxy and Buddhism, each of which seeks to promote itself, while still being respectful of other traditions. They are not capable of starting Crusades or forming a Zionist country. Both are inducive towards harmony.
Just taking it as "psychology" and going through it randomly is a horrible idea.
I have no long-term suggestions other than a viable spiritual path, which, itself, may be nearly the opposite of "religion" as expressed in English. In fact, the less English used, the better. Greek, Indian, or Chinese simply does not translate, because our language is not set up to even recognize the existence of issues that have already been well-covered.
To quote A. Dugin from the other day, if you turn to the "old", you are really turning towards the "eternal".
There is no substitute or new thing that replaces these; that is not even possible.
Valknut3301
30th November 2023, 22:40
The giant Sunami dream is so ubiquitous. I've spoken to so many people who have had this dream, myself included, and I'm starting to think it has something to do with ancestral memories. As to dirt flowing like water I can't really say, unless it's similar to my theory about ancestral memories and relates to the mudfloods, but I'm not convinced the mudfloods really happened, so I can't say one way or the other. It could be an avenue of research anyway.
XelNaga
30th November 2023, 23:40
Hello there, long-time Avalon follower. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/wave-hi.gif
My dreams have changed in the last several months. I’m grateful because to many were in a constrictive, classroom environment. The closest thing to a reoccurring catastrophic dream is when the earth is covered with water but with every step I take a sandbar makes way for me to travel. I’m unable to see far into the distance (future) but the water is calm and crystal clear. Which I take it to mean no storms ahead, and life is copacetic in any direction I choose.
https://i.imgur.com/p9el5uA.png
While driving to the market this morning I noticed that I kept dropping into alpha state. A recent practice of mine is to function while in alpha and theta states. After the market, I went for a walk and continued with the practice of a deeper states. That’s when I caught myself saying that ’I won’t be doing this much longer.’ A knowing quickly followed. The rational mind wondered 'how long is much longer?' and 'doing what?'
I sent greetings and a peaceful winter’s nap to the sleepy trees and the rest of the flora and fauna. I thanked them for their friendship and conversations while I considered what the flash of insight may be about. Time to move on? Time to move to the other place/realm that I strongly feel a part of while I close out this chapter? A paradigm shift?
http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/noidea.gif
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I'm having something "similar" happening to me, "similar" thoughts.
I'm starting my own business soon, for the first time in my life. And instead of feeling super excited about it, I have a constant feeling that there is no point in doing so, that there is no use.
I have a strong feeling that either something significant is going to happen with Earth, or that the globalists (satanists) are going to succeed in their plans, or at least part of it.
And I also have a strong desire to commit to my spiritual side, as all this business stuff is taking too much time and effort.
mojo
1st December 2023, 01:01
And I also have a strong desire to commit to my spiritual side,
Very interesting thought to consider your spiritual side XelNaga...
Now that Im away from the 5G towers I dream every night. It was very strange being in Salem MA last summer and not dreaming. It wasn't until I realized it was related to strong cell tower signals interrupting the dream state, but I believe it now. Anyway there is a Bible quote that comes to mind. It reads, "your young men shall have visions and your old men shall dream dreams." I believe woman are included in that quote. But after reading the OP post another quote came to mind. I wonder if what Bills friend is receiving is a spiritual dream in nature. If so I hope this hymn is relevant and helps.
On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand: all other ground is sinking sand; all other ground is sinking sand. 2 When darkness veils his lovely face, I rest on his unchanging grace; in every high and stormy gale, my anchor holds within the veil. [Refrain] 3 His oath, his covenant, his blood, support me in the whelming flood; when all around my soul gives way, he then is all my hope and stay. [Refrain] 4 When he shall come with trumpet sound, O may I then in him be found: dressed in his righteousness alone, faultless to stand before the throne.
prc
1st December 2023, 01:23
I´m not going to talk about a dream, I am going to talk about huge storms that happened in the South Region of Brasil that completelly destroyed some villages in the mountain in the State of Rio Grande do SUL. gigantic floods that carried away and destroyed the brick walls of entire houses, brick houses that when the water flow subsided only gravel remained. The first storm came and dozens of cities were flooded in the 3 southern states of Brazil, people lost all their belongings, then a wave of donations came, people rebuilt their homes, a second storm came and washed everything again, people they lost everything again, I know that the south of Brazil is already experiencing the third storm in a row, a cloud is stationed in the region causing torrential rains because there is a mass of hot air preventing these storms from spreading to the rest of the country. According to meteorologists, this phenomenon is called El Nino. That's what's happening here.
TravelerJim
1st December 2023, 01:24
Well, on another thread we have been talking about a super Ai playing with people's heads (It is a great thread on mind control which Bill also started). I would only throw in the thought that this MAY be from that same Ai....
Arcturian108
1st December 2023, 01:25
Friends, I'm copying here an email I received from a long-time Avalon follower. She's asking for some support in understanding what she seems to be experiencing. Can anyone assist?
I've shared this in a publicly-visible section, so that she can see any replies without logging in.
:flower:
Disturbing visions
I have followed your work for many years. I am not a member of the forum but check in daily.
For months now I have had a disturbing vision. It has not changed and happens daily, and has gone on for months. I was hoping maybe someone on the forum could help. Now this happens while I am awake.
I see mountains and the soil is running downward like a river people trying to get out of the way. Sometimes I travel down into the earth and the same thing is happening, rivers of soil flowing downward. It just never ends, and is troubling to me, so hopefully someone can give me some prospective.
Thank you for all your work over the years
(name and email redacted)
I had a client once who was so afraid of dying in a tsunami, and she had constant dreams of dying like that. I discovered that she did die in a tsunami in a past life when she was living on a Pacific island. I told her it was her past, and that was the end of it. Without knowing this Avalon nonmember's name and date of birth, I can't tell what the scenario is about in her case.
grapevine
1st December 2023, 15:05
snip . . .
This is a serious issue; and my suggestion is equipoise, neither-attracted-nor-repelled.
The long-term solution is simply not to be disturbed by anything, and the words may be easy, but I do not know of accomplishment without a viable spiritual path.
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This is "mushin", or "no mind", which is to be free of anger, fear or ego, to be totally free to act and react towards an opponent without hesitation and without disturbance from such thoughts. Mushin is a prerequisite when delving into some of the more negative/upsetting threads on PA, and sometimes hard to achieve, but if we didn't exercise some form of it, even unknowingly, then we wouldn't be able to function normally.
thepainterdoug
1st December 2023, 15:12
I had a dream the other night I was walking thru a barren area of dirt mud and water where i had a difficult time walking, had no idea where i was going and i kept slipping on the sides of banks into the muddy water, getting my shoes and socks wet and dirty and being discouraged about it all
the end
palehorse
1st December 2023, 15:53
I´m not going to talk about a dream, I am going to talk about huge storms that happened in the South Region of Brasil that completelly destroyed some villages in the mountain in the State of Rio Grande do SUL. gigantic floods that carried away and destroyed the brick walls of entire houses, brick houses that when the water flow subsided only gravel remained. The first storm came and dozens of cities were flooded in the 3 southern states of Brazil, people lost all their belongings, then a wave of donations came, people rebuilt their homes, a second storm came and washed everything again, people they lost everything again, I know that the south of Brazil is already experiencing the third storm in a row, a cloud is stationed in the region causing torrential rains because there is a mass of hot air preventing these storms from spreading to the rest of the country. According to meteorologists, this phenomenon is called El Nino. That's what's happening here.
Again?
Last month my relative with his wife were traveling in Brazil (Santa Catarina and Rio Grande) and they saw massive storms and floods.
About the thread, having visions while completely awake is another level, she is clairvoyant, she needs support to deal with that, it is very difficult to do it all on your own, but the most important, she need support from someone she can trust.
I had few visions and I already wrote about it on the forum, I know how it feels. In my case the help came from a witch, she must find someone that she can trust, it is very important, it involves some degree of work to be done, internet alone won't help. Once she find someone willing to help, then she can go either way, with a close body (forget it and never look back approach) or an open body (dig deeper).
Anchor
1st December 2023, 21:52
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My interpretation of the dream is that a wave of energy is or will move material around (of varying kinds) resulting in change. I think it is a reference to the increasing pace of change in our energetic environment.
In the same way a tsunami causes change where it moves, or intense weather, earthquake, landslides or mud floods etc.
How this energy maps into one's dreams depends on your internal mental "vocabulary" and past experiences.
RunningDeer
3rd December 2023, 03:28
It’s rare that I leave a comment under a YouTube video. But when Lisa began to explain herself, I stopped the video when she said, “I found myself being crucified.” I did’t want to be influenced by what she was going to say. This is what Lisa began to explain:
@ 3:00 - Last Saturday after the last call it happened again. And I never really know what I'm doing until I get going. And I man I know what I'm about to say and who it's going to effect…so I found myself being crucified. I felt myself completely on a cross…crucified. And there were some women on either side of me. I knew that. And I literally felt this person’s experience. That's how it felt. It was so real.
This is what I posted:
"I had to stop the video and write this out. When you explained that you felt like you were being crucified, it triggered a memory of what happened today while doing yoga. I was lying flat on the mat with my arms out as if on a cross. I felt a surge of energy through both of the palms. Without thought, what came to mind was “nailed to the cross”. It was so surreal that I had to look over to see if there was physical evidence or energy or anything unusual.
There was no pain attached, just a warm and buzzing energy. Soon after I felt the same sensations in my brain. What surprised me was how it came out of nowhere and the idea of “nailed to the cross” because I’ve not been a practicing Catholic since the early 1970’s."
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Below are a couple more snippets, the first of which I added because Lisa references the dream state:
@ 7:50 - I've had these really weird, distorted dreams, and I know plenty of other people have too.
@9:40 - I think what essentially happening is, we're all pulling in the higher aspects of ourselves, the authentic aspects of ourselves. We’re cleaning up the virus expects. It's all getting flushed out. A lot of you might've noticed that you're getting the physical symptoms too, And it's the body physical aches, and pains, especially in the legs that seems to be where it really, when it's really trying to integrate and ground. Fever, chills, flu like symptoms …
Lisa M. Harrison | The Authentic Feminine (10 minutes)
December 2, 2023
All I can say is, I have not worked this hard energetically since 2017.
It has been around the clock since Nov 6, mostly on my own but with the help of a couple of friends when it gets too close to home and I am too 'in it' to help myself.
Things that made an appearance this week:
Cleaning up religion, more on the the masculine cleanup and the female warrior, protector energy stepped in and up big time. Also taking on AI in human form, or as Leeloo called them, the bots, and the Ancients really starting to fire up.
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onawah
3rd December 2023, 03:41
I have never had a tsunami experience ( at least, not in this lifetime), though I've lived on both the East and West coasts of the US.
But back in the 80s when I was living in the Bay Area, CA. I had a lucid dream which I can still clearly recall in my mind's eye, of a friend standing before an enormous wall of incoming water on the CA. coast.
And it felt so prophetic to me that it was one of the reasons I finally moved inland.
Though inland may not necessarily be safe from tsunamis either, according to reports from the SuspiciousObservers youtube channel (in particular the playlist documentaries).
The 12,000 year micronova solar cycle/geomagnetic pole reversal causes movement of both continents and water, so there may well be many memories of cyclical events which occurred in centuries past, and which seem to be coming again soon.
So it is no wonder that many people are having such dreams and visions.
Forewarned is forearmed; even if there is not much we can do to survive such events, there is something to be said for being psychologically and emotionally prepared.
Earth school isn't easy, not in this Age, at least...
Casey Claar
3rd December 2023, 18:25
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I have never had a tsunami experience ( at least, not in this lifetime)
I have, 3 of them in roughly the same year and I experienced them all in first person ( in OBEs ). The first of the three was experienced in full, from the backseat of a car on a bridge in the San Francisco Bay Area. I was shown the other two relative to where I was actually living at the time-- the second being along the Santa Monica coast, and the last as seen from directly above the house where I was living in Culver City. I was relatively new to the OBE at this time, my ability to gather data and process that data was not what it is now. But I did log these events as they happened.
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