Elon Musk, Alex Jones, Vivek Ramaswamy, Andrew Tate Have A Chat

[Mike]

Little round table chat between some fascinating characters...

Why it was arranged I'm not sure. Perhaps to announce Alex's return to X?

It's a little haphazard and disorganized, but it's worth a listen just for the novelty of it all. It begins with Elon grilling Alex a little on the whole Sandy Hook fiasco. And then the panel collectively lauds Elon for several minutes before launching into various other topics like:

- The fallacy of overpopulation: Elon - who thinks of himself as a humanist - encourages listeners to have kids, and states that the earth could easily handle 10x the population it supports currently.

- Elon insists that there's no stasis, that Earth culture must move forward or risk regressing. He states that we must explore the cosmos, beginning with Mars.

- Some time is spent trying to distinguish between globalists and internationalists. Alex takes the talking stick here, and rambles a bit.

Actually, Alex does alot of rambling, but one gets the feeling he's just tickled to be back in the public square, so to speak, so he's easily forgiven.

Ramaswamy speaks sparingly, but makes some good points. At one point he's heard taking a leak and flushing the toilet. And it was then that I had to kind of pinch myself and think, is this really happening?:)

Meanwhile, Musk has his son sitting on his lap, and makes no effort whatsoever to stop the kid from blabbing into the microphone.

Tate chimes in with vintage Tate stuff, and the whole ethos of the dialogue is us vs them - humanists vs the globalists - and the result is one long disorganized rallying cry (sort of)

The whole thing is kind of preposterous and fun all at once. It's an hour and half long. Enjoy:
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I can't believe they still make Alex apologize before every interview over Sandyhook.
It's like 12 years old.
Get the ef over it.
Do weapons of mass destruction orchestrators John Brennon and James Clapper have to apologize everytime we see them on CNN? Or the media officials who parroted lies without getting their facts straight apologizing???
Why isn't the absurdity of the SandyHook trial itself not discussed ad nauseum for being the judicial travesty that it was.

I apologize,,, the topic gets me heated.

[Mike]

I can't believe they still make Alex apologize before every interview over Sandyhook.
It's like 12 years old.
Get the ef over it.
Do weapons of mass destruction orchestrators John Brennon and James Clapper have to apologize everytime we see them on CNN? Or the media officials who parroted lies without getting their facts straight apologizing???
Why isn't the absurdity of the SandyHook trial itself not discussed ad nauseum for being the judicial travesty that it was.

I apologize,,, the topic gets me heated.


Makes me heated too!

It was the only time in the chat that Musk annoyed me a little. He's obviously trying to get ahead of the inevitable criticism he'll receive by bringing Alex back. By grilling Alex he's trying to appease a crowd that will never be appeased anyway, so I hardly see the point. Perhaps it's a gesture for the advertisers. Who knows?

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Elon Musk, The Masterful Troll (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122119-Elon-Musk-The-Masterful-Troll)
Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122352-Alex-Jones-on-The-Tucker-Carlson-Show-December-2023)

Wisdom/insight what most people who are crying about AJ (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122352-Alex-Jones-on-The-Tucker-Carlson-Show-December-2023) "forget" to say:

If you do not like it .. if you do not agree .. if you do not trust it .. if you "hate" (AJ (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122352-Alex-Jones-on-The-Tucker-Carlson-Show-December-2023)) style of reporting etc. etc. etc. DO IT YOURSELF!

* Focus on your own qualities and get support on your own merit & effort!

Show how you think "it must be done" and stick with it (no matter what) let the world see you have something to offer besides criticizing other suppressed news researchers other conspiracy investigators other alternative media producers.

When you do not like others to support someone, and you feel that YOU deserve that support "much better" and feel sorry for so many who fall for whatever scam/hoax or lies others create .. be aware that you are not responsible for the quality of thinking & judging done by others, even if you assume you are.

* When you use certain framing to expose colleague researchers & alternative media producers, know that everything you do must be 100% perfect and flawless .. if not, you are a hypocrite. Often when we hear/see in-fights within the truthers network I notice that the vast majority has no time to see it from all sides and figure out what is 100% accurate or not* what accusations are exaggerated or based upon conjecture or "hear say" or innuendo or a barrage of insinuations .. even if some of it is true you are always free to do it differently and SHOW THE WAY by doing it yourself!

* even if parts of what you discovered is true, you may not want to understand why someone decided to do it like that and what the exact circumstances are, as your mind is already made up! ... Meaning there is always a stick you can find to hit someone with >>> does not mean you are "all mighty" and "all knowing" wise.

It is 100% okay to question anyone who has influence, but when you have a personal vendetta or a personal "mission" to "succeed" destroying someone else and see that as "good" >>> you have to be flawless & perfect and 100% certain what you are doing and do NOT MIND to be questioned as well, as everything in life works like a mirror!

Some people get "views" and "clicks" not because of what they have something special to offer, but PURELY because they attack someone that has a huge reach, who has built up something big that took decades of work & effort. Then riding on that celebrity fame vibes to get more subscribers ... and thinking you are now part of that "wave" ... Just like what CNN & MSNBC did with Trump (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120906-Trump-The-World-s-Greatest-Troll), "Russia Russia (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118563-Russophobia-why-do-so-many-people-in-the-west-hate-and-fear-Russia)" etc.

The whole "dependency mind games" in the Alternative Media scene is in my view FAKE (full of paid and/or wannabe trolls/agitators) .. People can always wise up from within, not via in-fights having a "soul mission" to focus solely on some other's effort/work meanwhile forgetting the long road you have to walk the talk before they get to a point where they are right now!

... and now the fun part, (similar to Elon (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122119-Elon-Musk-The-Masterful-Troll)): I really do not give fck what people think of me when I am stating all the above .. am not bowing down to "group think" nor any form of tribalism .. I just use common sense .. that's all.

There are 4 people who I highly respect who criticized AJ (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122352-Alex-Jones-on-The-Tucker-Carlson-Show-December-2023)/Elon Musk (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116696-Elon-Musk-says-he-will-Solve-World-Hunger-if-the-UN-can-show-how-the-money-is-spent) and walk the talk:

* Aaron & Melissa Dykes (https://www.youtube.com/@TruthstreamMedia/videos)
* David Knight (https://twitter.com/libertytarian)
* David Icke (https://davidicke.com)

... even so .. that does not make them "perfect" nor "flawless" and certainly not "all knowing".


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@Ratszinger in my view, it is all said on the bases (assumption) that Elon Musk (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116696-Elon-Musk-says-he-will-Solve-World-Hunger-if-the-UN-can-show-how-the-money-is-spent) "must" be evil and "must" be 100% compromised.

I personally think it is much more a gray area where Elon (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116696-Elon-Musk-says-he-will-Solve-World-Hunger-if-the-UN-can-show-how-the-money-is-spent) made deals to get "Ultra Rich" to fund his Mars Project and thus may have made some sacrifices (on certain levels) "for his greater good" mega project.

Now imagine if nobody did anything to challenge twitter (and the likes) with a reach of billions of people per year ... in the way that almost nobody could, except Elon ... OFF COURSE, we have to stay vigilant & highly critical towards any powerhouse! ... and not blindly trust everything Elon claims or does <<< to assume we are not doing that like David Icke (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=David%20Icke) (who I personally met face to face in 1994, 1996 & 2011) insinuates is highly insulting to our intelligence ... David spewing his frustration, that is only partly correct.

But there are many ways to demonize Elon, meanwhile if anyone else was in his shoes might realize how complex the situation really is ... Armchair critics everywhere <<< and sometimes they are "right on target" what they claim, but still I feel a sense of sideline-talkers "thinking they are so much better" <<< but are they really?


Whatever happens, I still feel that the resistance worldwide has gotten an enormous boost, much more encouragements, less demoralized (https://rumble.com/v1jj5n6-former-soviet-kgb-agent-warns-of-plans-to-subvert-western-culture.html), much more opportunities coming out of this "freedom fighters network" affecting millions because of it ... Especially more "insiders" who falsely assumed they are "good people (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120761-The-nature-of-evil-in-the-modern-world&p=1548367&viewfull=1#post1548367)" getting faster inspired to question their role in helping the Tyrannical Dystopian WEF Agenda2030/NetZero2050 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum) ... as they are the ones who really can throw sand in the NWO Machine (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?163-The-New-World-Order).

When evil "allows" certain freedoms, you might demonize those who took that freedom and being happy about it ... you're supposed to be angry 24/7 and demand 100% perfect society (which I love to talk about how that looks like (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110914-Imagine-A-Real-Sanctuary-Country-for-Millions-of-Conspiracy-Researchers-)).

For me the KEY is the: "allow yourself to surprise yourself" mentality, outsmarting defeatism, go beyond the imposed duality thinking, especially within the "truther movement" aka "conspiracy research people" network or "suppressed news exposer's" network.

cheers,
John (https://johnkuhles.substack.com/p/what-most-critics-of-alex-jones-and) 🦜🦋🌳


source (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122352-Alex-Jones-on-The-Tucker-Carlson-Show-December-2023&p=1590233#post1590233)
My views on 'Controlled Opposition' (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122352-Alex-Jones-on-The-Tucker-Carlson-Show-December-2023&p=1590074&viewfull=1#post1590074) rant part 2

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THIS is the Video That Got Alex Jones BANNED From Twitter / X! Seriously...

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Alex Jones’ MOST ACCURATE Prediction Ever!:

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Elon Musk REINSTATES Alex Jones On Twitter!

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BREAKING: Vivek Ramaswamy Makes Shocking 2024 Prediction After Chris Christie Drops Out Of Race

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In a video released to social media, Vivek Ramaswamy responded to former Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ) dropping out of the presidential race and predicted a Haley-DeSantis joint ticket effort.

Vivek predicts Ron DeSantis joining Nikki Haley as her VP after Chris Christie drops out of the presidential race. Chris Christie claims to have received a panicked call from Ron DeSantis, suggesting a coordinated effort against Donald Trump's candidacy. Vivek implies that donors will influence Ron DeSantis to become Nikki Haley's VP, irrespective of his personal choice. Vivek urges viewers to stay vigilant, emphasizing the importance of the America First agenda beyond Donald Trump and cautioning against falling into the system's traps.


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Andrew Tate speaks to media after arriving in South Florida:

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Influencer brothers Andrew and Tristan Tate, who are charged with human trafficking in Romania, arrived Thursday in South Florida after authorities lifted travel restrictions imposed as part of the case.