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Mike
16th December 2023, 08:32
I want to believe.
But I've been getting psychic readings, on and off, for maybe 20 years and I still don't have 1 single shred of evidence that anyone on this planet has even the slightest bit of psychic ability at all.
The psychic world is largely a grift. I get no joy in saying that, but it's a reality I've finally come to terms with. All it took was 20 years and several thousand dollars.
I'd sworn off psychics until the Carol Clarke thread began here, years ago. Even David Icke said (paraphrase), "She simply never gets it wrong". Well based on my reading, she never really gets it right. Actually it would be more accurate to say that everything she says is so ambiguous, abstract, and unfalsifiable that it can't be judged either way. And I think that's the point.
I later discovered - with the help of another member here - that she stole bits from an astrology site and recited them word for word during her readings, as if they were her own revelations. The proof was undeniable.
Before Carol I'd had an assortment of readings from many different psychics, all highly reputable(and expensive). Not a single one of them even hinted at the most prominent issues in my life. Not one. Not ever.
And there wasn't any overlap in any of the messages. If they were truly psychic in some way, you'd think they'd be picking up on the same "static".
I recently began watching a podcast called "Next Level Soul", which features near death experiencers mainly. Most of the interviewees claim psychic abilities of some sort. Their stories were told earnestly and with great emotion, and I had no reason to doubt them. So I made some appointments with a few for readings. Why not?
Well I noticed a clear pattern. All 3 began with a windy prayer/meditation that consumed close to 5 mins. And then they said, How can I be of service to you? " And I was left thinking: if you're so bloody cosmic, why don't you tell me how you can be of service to me? I just paid you $200!
What kind of psychic needs to know what's on my mind ahead of time before they read me?? Surely they should already know, at least to some degree.
With the first one, I played along. I asked some questions and she asked a few back. And every few mins she'd stop to perform cleansing prayers, or something like that. It must have eaten up nearly half the reading. Again, I think it's designed that way. That's the grift.
One of them said I walked with Jesus. None of the others did, mind you. Walking with Jesus is a pretty big deal, and you'd think if it were true, the other psychics would have picked up on it. But no. This particular psychic told me Jesus was present during the reading, but "Jesus" had precious little of value to offer, strangely:) He was very vague, and general, and weirdly enough seemed to get quite a bit wrong about me...
And this is another part of the grift - appeal to ego, and hope the idiot you're reading for gets so drunk on the ruse that they fail to notice how embarrassingly bad the rest of the reading is.
Carol Clarke did this with past lives in other solar systems and galaxies. She told me right off that I was from a star system that no one she'd ever read for had been from. Only minutes after I'd posted this here a member pm'd me to say Carol told him he was from the same star system:).
When I asked one of the psychics that read for me recently what my life purpose was, she answered like this: "Well everyone's life purpose is to heal, and once you heal you'll discover what you're supposed to be doing here..."
Wow. Deep!:bigsmile: Thank you friendly psychic!
The joke, ultimately, is on me. I keep falling for it. And I'll probably fall for it again sometime in the future, because that's just what I do.
Why do I keep doing this??
pyrangello
16th December 2023, 09:28
The one and only time I paid for a consultation was with the physic twins who have been on tv , ECT ECT. It was only suppose to be for 15 minutes , ended up talking to them for 40. I don't know what it was about them but I swear after I got off the phone with them there was a vibrant electricity of connection and feeling I felt. It was off the charts. It was of an elevated positive energy that I will never forget.
Harmony
16th December 2023, 10:13
I had a reading that didn't cost anything and they knew very personal things about my past that no one would know. Another psychic was connecting with my Mother because I asked them to, no money exchange, and also those messages for me and otners in my family were only things that each of us would know about, very specific personal things. Now I seem to be able to connect to passed loved ones myself when needed, so I don't ask another to interpret for me.
I guess it just depends on the psychic and how and why they use their energies. I feel it needs to be with good loving intentions.
Open Minded Dude
16th December 2023, 12:24
I am also very skeptic of psychics and mediums and channellers. I never consulted one so far although just for fun or test purposes I would have liked to. Maybe one day I will.
This being said there are some studies done by a science organisation about psychics/mediums who contact 'the dead' or/and at least retrieve some valuable information about them or the ones alive requesting it. They even 'certify' mediums if the can perform and get 'results'.
Here is a few links about their studies I had bookmerked over many years now:
https://www.windbridge.org/research/completed-studies/
https://skeptiko.com/51-dr-julie-beischel-responds-to-critics-of-psychic-medium-research/
One example study (pdf):
https://www.windbridge.org/papers/BeischelEXPLORE2007vol3.pdf
Mark (Star Mariner)
16th December 2023, 14:14
There are many grifters, that's true, and I feel your pain Mike. I've run into a few of them myself. But genuine ones do exist, I've encountered them up close and for real.
It's important to understand that a medium, or clairvoyant, is like an interpreter. They receive information from an external source and translate it in terms we can understand. But first the information must be filtered through the consciousness field of the human ego. If that field is impure or just too dense the information will be inaccurate.
One doesn't have to be a saint or ascended master to be a genuine channel. A rule of thumb I've generally followed is genuine psychics/clairvoyants live humble lives. They are not 'big names'. I've found them in such places as psychic development circles/workshops, and spiritualist churches. They aren't rich, they aren't famous. They do not advertise, and do not charge a fee (they may ask for a donation however).
The best method I've personally found for obtaining a reading is from myself -- or my higher self. That was via QHHT (Quantum Healing Hypnosis Therapy) using the Dolores Cannon method. It was the only method that worked for me after trying numerous traditional practitioners. I am for whatever reason extremely difficult to hypnotise. I believe I have the strange honour of being the only subject certain hyno-regressionists could not hypnotise (in their entire careers). But even with QHHT, it took 45mins to bring me into a light trance. In that state I was able to obtain some information from my higher self and thus some answers, and experienced (recovered the memory of) a couple of past lives, or rather existences, as both were non-corporeal/physical.
The Dolores Cannon school of QHHT operates worldwide. In fact we have a member here on Avalon who practises it, enfoldedblue (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?1787-enfoldedblue). If you wanted to blow another $200, it would be far better spent in QHHT than on a psychic hotline in my opinion. To find a practitioner in your area, check this page: https://members.qhhtofficial.com/find-a-practitioner/
Ewan
16th December 2023, 14:45
I want to believe.
But I've been getting psychic readings, on and off, for maybe 20 years and I still don't have 1 single shred of evidence that anyone on this planet has even the slightest bit of psychic ability at all.
Hi Mike, so nice to see you back, hopefully for longer than just a sojourn.
As to psychics, yes it is likely a minefield out there where charlatans lie in wait instead of explosives. And I'm kinda sorry you never found any validating experience in amongst all the effort. That said perchance you were looking too hard?
I've only ever made three attempts. The first an astrological chart reading which I could not begin to interpretate, might as well have been in a foreign language. It was presented in catch-all's much like a daily newspaper horoscope but with so much detail it was bewildering. Convinced the guy was using software to produce his results.
Years later, thanks to the thread on Carol Clarke, I got a reading from her. I was mighty impressed at the time but subsequent listenings over the years leave me far from certain there is anything there at all.
So far we're still on the same page, right, but fasten your seat belt Dorothy, Kansas is about to go bye bye.
The third and last time was in Chiangmai, Thailand. Just a two line ad in an expat monthly print.
Do you want to know your life's purpose? Call Jasmine: 0009939802948209 (made up number)
Well I was still completely aimless in life and swinging from the verge of depression then back into the bar and having fun, you know, alcohol and girls, in a completely non-exhilirating roller coaster.
What the Hell? Nothing to lose right? I called and arranged an appointment.
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In the next section you will see a series of interjection in Dark Red and in brackets, those are my internal monologue as best remembered from the time. They're largely very cynical.
Trust me, it was a very memorable occassion; and bragging, I am very good at remembereing conversations, sometimes in the most banal of circumstances - don't know why or how, I just can.
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On the day I met her she took me into this large room and sat me in a chair near the middle of the room, she then walked off to sit down facing me but at least 6m away, about 20 feet.
We had a little chat,
what had brought me to her,
had I ever had an idea what I might want to do,
where was I born.
I answered everything honestly and she got nothing, there was nothing to tell her - especially about what I had wanted to do with my life.
She asked me to relax and focus on my breathing, I could close my eyes if I wished. She then closed her eyes and I saw her lips moving as her hands waved around in the air. (Here we go.)
I'm sure the hand movements represented something but it was lost on me. She did this for about two or three minutes. (This is a load of bollocks, why did I come?)
(**** this!) I stood up and started walking to the door. She asked "Where are you going?"
"I don't want to be here".
She calmly said, "This voice that is telling you to leave, maybe it doesn't want to be here. But there was some part of you that wanted to be here in the first place".
That stopped me dead in my tracks, no answer to that one. The voice that told me to leave was just like the voice that said "Let's go to the pub". "She's cute, go and say Hi".
A minor aside for a moment, I wasn't hearing voices, they're just thoughts, little impulses/feelings that give rise to action.
I returned to my seat and tried to relax again, she took up where she left off as if there had been no interruption, less than a minute later she stood and approached me, walking right around behind me and back around the front. I see the hand movements continue, wafting things away and for all the world like she was holding scissors and cutting things. (Seriously?)
I suddenly noticed I couldn't move. I concentrated, just trying to move a finger, nothing. (What the Hell! How?)
She began to go through my life as she could see it through my chakras, I don't recall to much about those largely due to her revelation about the sacral chakra where she bluntly exclaimed, and it was an exclamation, "Oh you open a lot!" (Bloody hell! ****!)
Thai people 'open' a light switch, their understanding of the English word open is a little more encompassing than our own, though technically it is correct - when you turn on a light you are opening a circuit.
She recovered quickly and moved on normally. Meanwhile I'm totally embarrassed and barely focusing any more. (Maybe she'll want sex afterwards?) Yes, my apemind really is that pathetic sometimes.
When she'd finished the chakra descriptions, though I do recall her saying my throat chakra was particularly strong and vibrant (apparently about expression and truth), she preceeded to describe my aura as she percieved it. Largely various hues of blue with whisps of violet encroaching like roots from above, lower there were infusions of green.
Now she starts asking me questions and at this point I discover not only can I not move, I can't speak either! (What the ****! What is happening here?)
No answer. She is not bothered, simply repeats the question. Still no answer. She moves on, asking another, similar but rephrased. Still nothing.
Then she asked "What should I be doing with my life to fulfill my path?"
"JUST LIVE." (Holy ****!)
I never answered her, a ??what?? used my voice box and answered on my behalf. The voice sounded impatient, like in a, why are you bothering me kind of way. I mean it was my voice but spoken with such authority. More like a command actually.
Now, I am a mute witness to what is happening here, and believe me I am so shocked my mind is still, no thoughts are racing despite what had just happened. I am best described, with the benefit of hindsight, as totally attentive.
Seemingly Jasmine is well used to this and continues.
Bit of a vague memory here, I don't recall exactly what Jasmine asked next but the answer is still there.
"JUST LIVE." Sounding even more impatient and imperious.
Jasmine moves on swiftly. "And after life?"
"DEATH."
"And after Death?"
"LIFE."
And I think that was that, I'm not sure if Jasmine asked more questions but I know THE VOICE never answered. I did hear that voice once more as an internal thought that appeared in a still moment of wonder. The same commading imperious tone. "GO BACK TO ENGLAND".
Meanwhile Jasmine was reversing my isolation from the universe, or whatever the heck she did to me, and suddenly I can move and speak again and what do I do? I collapse forward sobbing like the five or six year old me that my cruel parents had just taken my 'comfort blanket', Blanky!, away from beacuase I was too dependant on it. Welcome to the world baby boy, time to start growing up.
I think we spoke for another half hour after that but sadly my skill for memory of conversations let's me down there, it is all a blur.
What I had just experience was real, massive, and I could not process it at all. The analytical brain could do nothing with it, and there is a lesson in there somewhere. That is why we leave it all behind so easily when we depart this 4d experience. The 'mind' we use here has no place outside of this world.
Well Mike, I hope I have gone some way to convince you all is not lost. Especially as I have just revealed way too much to the entire Avalon forum about an earlier part of life. What, the sex addiction? No, I am talking about the stupid blanket!
Maybe you will find it when you least expect to. I promise you, you will be overwhelmed. :heart2:
Mark (Star Mariner)
16th December 2023, 15:47
Wow Ewan, what a profound experience. The methods she employed are new to me, but they sure sound effective. I've heard similar stories from many different places around the world. Shamans, mystics, ancient wisdom... It's not hard to believe these are purer sources than what we generally find in the West. And maybe that's the key insight.
As for the 'JUST LIVE' bit. I laughed. I've been told, time and again, almost exactly the same thing when asking that question. What is the purpose, what am I here for...? TO BE, I am told. Just TO BE.
Mari
16th December 2023, 20:08
I've had two pretty impressive readings from 'certified' mediums - those who were working at the Royal College of Psychic studies in Kensington, London. They go through the whole gamut -years of study, earning credentials etc before being able to practice there, so they're pretty kosher. But they have their strengths as well as their off days and this can affect a reading.
So yes- genuine psychics and mediums are out there, but you do have to hunt them down.
Carol Clarke. What can I say? I scheduled a reading with her, from the recommendations of Avalon, and Bill's endorsement...'she simply never gets it wrong'. Er..yes she does.:o
After hiking out £90 for a 90mins reading, I was expecting at least something that would get the juices flowing. A few minutes into the reading and the statement 'Oh, I can see that you're a smoker..you smoke..you should stop, but they ('they?') know that you wont'. Well - I haven't smoked for 25 years so where the hell did she get that from? A sympathetic pal said that she might have got her 'timelines' wrong. No - I don't buy that.
A big disappointment, followed by mediocre statements which meant absolutely nothing on an inner level, except an ego massaging when she stated that my aura was 'very, very unusual'...apparently gold and silver, but by this time I felt cheapened, cheated in some way I can't define.
One thing I will say, something that keeps popping into my head, is that I suspect some mediums/psychics are targeted by mischievous entities during a reading who can 'muscle in' and implant a thought into the medium's head which she interprets as her own guidance and this can very often be the case if the psychic doesn't do the 'guarding' prayers beforehand. I do wonder if this happened with Carol Clarke?
Lunesoleil
16th December 2023, 20:29
You're not saying it quite right, there are a lot of charlatans in astrology, just as there are among mediums.
Become your own astrologer or psychic and keep your money.
If you want to play a musical instrument, take anything and make music, if you want to be a singer, sing if you have a pretty voice, if you want to
Eva2
17th December 2023, 01:56
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Mike
17th December 2023, 02:04
Ewan, that's a remarkable testimony dude! Thanks for sharing it.
It seems appropriate to have happened in Thailand for some reason. The experience has a witch-doctor'y feel to it, as if you'd connected with a female Don Juan Matus or something.
I'm pleased for you. What a trip that musta been.
There are several schools of thought regarding my experiences (or lack thereof) and one is that I'm trying too hard, or forcing things. It's possible. Perhaps it's not meant to be handed to me. Perhaps I'm meant to connect with my multidimensional self thru my own machinations in this life. I can't say. But you'd think, after all the psychics I've connected with over the years, one of them would say one thing that was either accurate for the past/present or came true in the future.
I've got a pretty good sample size, and the psychics weren't your 1-800 variety. I discovered them all by reading such books as "The Holographic Universe" and "Journey of Souls" and so on. If price and waiting time is any indication of authenticity, these folks were it. Either 1) they're just not very good at all, 2) They all just happened to be having off days and I was extremely unlucky with each and every reading, or 3) I'm just not meant to connect to the esoteric world thru psychic channels in this lifetime.
I dunno.
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There are many grifters, that's true, and I feel your pain Mike. I've run into a few of them myself. But genuine ones do exist, I've encountered them up close and for real.
It's important to understand that a medium, or clairvoyant, is like an interpreter. They receive information from an external source and translate it in terms we can understand. But first the information must be filtered through the consciousness field of the human ego. If that field is impure or just too dense the information will be inaccurate.
One doesn't have to be a saint or ascended master to be a genuine channel. A rule of thumb I've generally followed is genuine psychics/clairvoyants live humble lives. They are not 'big names'. I've found them in such places as psychic development circles/workshops, and spiritualist churches. They aren't rich, they aren't famous. They do not advertise, and do not charge a fee (they may ask for a donation however).
The best method I've personally found for obtaining a reading is from myself -- or my higher self. That was via QHHT (Quantum Healing Hypnosis Therapy) using the Dolores Cannon method. It was the only method that worked for me after trying numerous traditional practitioners. I am for whatever reason extremely difficult to hypnotise. I believe I have the strange honour of being the only subject certain hyno-regressionists could not hypnotise (in their entire careers). But even with QHHT, it took 45mins to bring me into a light trance. In that state I was able to obtain some information from my higher self and thus some answers, and experienced (recovered the memory of) a couple of past lives, or rather existences, as both were non-corporeal/physical.
The Dolores Cannon school of QHHT operates worldwide. In fact we have a member here on Avalon who practises it, enfoldedblue (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?1787-enfoldedblue). If you wanted to blow another $200, it would be far better spent in QHHT than on a psychic hotline in my opinion. To find a practitioner in your area, check this page: https://members.qhhtofficial.com/find-a-practitioner/
Mark thanks for that suggestion! I'm intrigued by your experience and am absolutely going to explore QHHT.
Mike
17th December 2023, 02:09
One thing I will say, something that keeps popping into my head, is that I suspect some mediums/psychics are targeted by mischievous entities during a reading who can 'muscle in' and implant a thought into the medium's head which she interprets as her own guidance and this can very often be the case if the psychic doesn't do the 'guarding' prayers beforehand. I do wonder if this happened with Carol Clarke?
Interesting point. Or maybe it's my head that's corrupted with mischievous entities preventing a psychic connection from occurring:HELP!:
@Eva2: yes! the leaves that Billy spoke of. forgot about that. Glad you mentioned it. See, now I'm ready to jump back in the game;)
Pris
17th December 2023, 03:20
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My suggestion?
Decide to take control over your own mind. Be confident, be strong. Don't listen to noise. Be your own 'authority'. Question everything. Know that you can find all the answers within yourself.
"As above so below."
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Kryztian
17th December 2023, 04:57
I want to believe.
But I've been getting psychic readings, on and off, for maybe 20 years and I still don't have 1 single shred of evidence that anyone on this planet has even the slightest bit of psychic ability at all.
Saying that psychic powers don't exist because you never found any shred of evidence from your $95 dollar a session psychic is a bit like saying true love doesn't exist because you never found any in the hundreds of whorehouses you've visited.
I have had several psychic readings. Because I went with low expectations, I enjoyed them immensely if only for theirentertainment value. But they didn't tell me anything helpful about my future, other than that I should rely more on my own wits than on side show psychics and dime magazine astrology columns.
Many have shared their experiences in this thread.
Predictions & Prophecies you've personally received - How did they pan out???
(https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111969-Predictions-Prophecies-you-ve-personally-received-How-did-they-pan-out)
That being said, I have indeed had evidence of psychic power. I don't think anyone can tell you the exact future, however, some beings do know the parameters of what might happen in the future. I also know someone who is quite psychic and never charges for his services. However, his insight is related more to the past and the present. He can walk into a room and sometimes tell you what happened there many years before. In one instance, he mentioned somethings that happened in an old house and it caused someone listening to have a nervous breakdown - so, he wisely surmised that psychic powers are often more troublesome than they are helpful.
Mike
17th December 2023, 07:32
I want to believe.
But I've been getting psychic readings, on and off, for maybe 20 years and I still don't have 1 single shred of evidence that anyone on this planet has even the slightest bit of psychic ability at all.
Saying that psychic powers don't exist because you never found any shred of evidence from your $95 dollar a session psychic is a bit like saying true love doesn't exist because you never found any in the hundreds of whorehouses you've visited.
I have had several psychic readings. Because I went with low expectations, I enjoyed them immensely if only for theirentertainment value. But they didn't tell me anything helpful about my future, other than that I should rely more on my own wits than on side show psychics and dime magazine astrology columns.
Why would you go out of your way to get a reading if you didn't have any expectations?:)
See I think this is the crux of it: I don't think anyone, even those of us here who are open to such things, views these readings as anything more than a novelty. On the one hand we take it quite seriously, but on the other we treat it with a wink. Even the psychics themselves seem surprised when I ask questions that, according to their bio, they should be able to answer. It's as if I've broken the unspoken agreement that goes something like this: you play along with the reading and act impressed, and I (the psychic) will do my best to make this as entertaining as possible.
It's like 2 people that have agreed to participate in a LARP without breaking character. In that way it's more of a ritual than a reading. That's what you're paying for really - someone who's willing to play make believe with you while keeping a straight face.
I'm often told I expect too much from these readings. Well, if I'm paying you $200-$300, I have some expectations! I don't need to pay someone to tell me to seek my own council:) I'm paying them for their council. That's the whole point.
Chris I never said psychic powers don't exist. I just said I don't have any evidence that they do. And I have quite a sample size, so I think my little experiment should be regarded with a little curiosity at the very least.
I'd challenge everyone reading this: consider all your psychic readings, and being perfectly honest with yourself, assess by percentage how much of the info received was useful or accurate in any way.
Mike
17th December 2023, 07:49
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My suggestion?
Decide to take control over your own mind. Be confident, be strong. Don't listen to noise. Be your own 'authority'. Question everything. Know that you can find all the answers within yourself.
Well I do have control over my own mind. I am my own authority. I'm not forfeiting my autonomy here, I'm just seeking some spiritual guidance:)
To be clear: this isn't something I do regularly. I've probably had roughly 15 -20 readings in the last 25 years. Sometimes I get readings on a whim. Sometimes it's after I've read a fascinating book or watched a podcast that's featured or discussed what appear to be gifted psychics. And sometimes it's when I'm at a crossroads and looking for some spiritual guidance.
I'm just a curious sort really who's prone to exploring this stuff from time to time.
Casey Claar
17th December 2023, 08:58
One thing I will say, something that keeps popping into my head, is that I suspect some mediums/psychics are targeted by mischievous entities during a reading who can 'muscle in' and implant a thought into the medium's head which she interprets as her own guidance and this can very often be the case if the psychic doesn't do the 'guarding' prayers beforehand. I do wonder if this happened with Carol Clarke?
Interesting point. Or maybe it's my head that's corrupted with mischievous entities preventing a psychic connection from occurring:HELP!:
@Eva2: yes! the leaves that Billy spoke of. forgot about that. Glad you mentioned it. See, now I'm ready to jump back in the game;)
We can try to put this to the test if you like. I can go into the crystal for you. If no being comes through for you this could indicate a definite block in you. But if someone does, especially quite easily, I'd say no significant block. -And no charge at all kind sir. Never a charge. All that is needed is a genuine willingness to connect. We can use this thread in itself to act as the request, rather than the more usual channels.
Ivanhoe
17th December 2023, 11:33
I firmly believe in psychics / mediums.
Members of my family have "powers", and I have had my own experiences, but I don't consider myself "gifted".
I have had three readings in my life.
The first was an old lady who turned out to be remarkably accurate concerning my future (I was 18 at the time), she didn't charge me anything but accepted donations.
The second was my ex-wife who was gifted but the reading was pretty general and some of it had to be taken at face value and with a measure of blind faith (and I'm pretty skeptical about a lot of claims because of my own experiences with myself and my family).
The third was a grifter for sure who was trying to entertain me with tales of my past incarnations (which didn't ring true to me) and virtually zero actual substance.
I felt it was purely entertainment.
Nevertheless, I recognize the psychic abilities of some people when I meet them, and I'm a pretty good and fast read of energy and intent and avoid some people and places like the plague.
Anyway, I'm rambling now so I'll stop.:laughs:
Mari
17th December 2023, 11:40
One thing I will say, something that keeps popping into my head, is that I suspect some mediums/psychics are targeted by mischievous entities during a reading who can 'muscle in' and implant a thought into the medium's head which she interprets as her own guidance and this can very often be the case if the psychic doesn't do the 'guarding' prayers beforehand. I do wonder if this happened with Carol Clarke?
Interesting point. Or maybe it's my head that's corrupted with mischievous entities preventing a psychic connection from occurring:HELP!:
@Eva2: yes! the leaves that Billy spoke of. forgot about that. Glad you mentioned it. See, now I'm ready to jump back in the game;)
We can try to put this to the test if you like. I can go into the crystal for you. If no being comes through for you this could indicate a definite block in you. But if someone does, especially quite easily, I'd say no significant block. -And no charge at all kind sir. Never a charge. All that is needed is a genuine willingness to connect. We can use this thread in itself to act as the request, rather than the more usual channels.
Ok Casey, that's intriguing. What do I need to do?
Pris
17th December 2023, 18:49
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My suggestion?
Decide to take control over your own mind. Be confident, be strong. Don't listen to noise. Be your own 'authority'. Question everything. Know that you can find all the answers within yourself.
Well I do have control over my own mind. I am my own authority. I'm not forfeiting my autonomy here, I'm just seeking some spiiritual guidance:)
To be clear: this isn't something I do regularly. I've probably had roughly 15 -20 readings in the last 25 years. Sometimes I get readings on a whim. Sometimes it's after I've read a fascinating book or watched a podcast that's featured or discussed what appear to be gifted psychics. And sometimes it's when I'm at a crossroads and looking for some spiritual guidance.
I'm just a curious sort really who's prone to exploring this stuff from time to time.
Interesting. Curiosity is one thing... To be entertained, amused, not to be taken seriously. I get the sense that you want to take this subject seriously. Why did you start this thread? Right from the top, your OP states that you "want to believe".
When I suggest deciding to take control over your own mind, it means there is no need to 'believe'. The need to care falls away because you already know all there is to know. From my perspective, you are already whole, you are enough. When you say you are seeking 'spiritual guidance' that suggests to me that you think you are not enough. If you were enough, you wouldn't seek it. Seeking guidance outside yourself gives your power away, makes you vulnerable.
When you are in the center, nothing is above you and nothing is below you.
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"As above so below."
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Casey Claar
17th December 2023, 19:08
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One thing I will say, something that keeps popping into my head, is that I suspect some mediums/psychics are targeted by mischievous entities during a reading who can 'muscle in' and implant a thought into the medium's head which she interprets as her own guidance and this can very often be the case if the psychic doesn't do the 'guarding' prayers beforehand. I do wonder if this happened with Carol Clarke?
Interesting point. Or maybe it's my head that's corrupted with mischievous entities preventing a psychic connection from occurring:HELP!:
@Eva2: yes! the leaves that Billy spoke of. forgot about that. Glad you mentioned it. See, now I'm ready to jump back in the game;)
We can try to put this to the test if you like. I can go into the crystal for you. If no being comes through for you this could indicate a definite block in you. But if someone does, especially quite easily, I'd say no significant block. -And no charge at all kind sir. Never a charge. All that is needed is a genuine willingness to connect. We can use this thread in itself to act as the request, rather than the more usual channels.
Ok Casey, that's intriguing. What do I need to do?
Oh, hello, Mari.. I suppose I should have addressed my comment ( which was to Mike ), specifically to see if he has some kind of block. I offered to use this thread as the request because he began it and there is plenty of energy here for me to read. This said, yes anyone can request a rendering through the more usual channel --> crystal contact, rendering request.
(https://consciousnessexploration.com/2018/04/05/requesting-a-read)
Edited to fix link
Casey Claar
17th December 2023, 19:12
Well this is really strange, I cannot get the link to work ?????
RunningDeer
17th December 2023, 19:28
Well this is really strange, I cannot get the link to work ?????
Requesting a Rendering (https://consciousnessexploration.com/2018/04/05/requesting-a-read/) :bearhug:
Casey Claar
17th December 2023, 19:49
Well this is really strange, I cannot get the link to work ?????
Requesting a Rendering (https://consciousnessexploration.com/2018/04/05/requesting-a-read/) :bearhug:
Thank you, RunningDeer ......I wonder why it would not let ME do this. ( weird ) I didn't do anything different than usual.
Anyhow, thank you for the assist!
From Bill:
I fixed the link in your post above, which now works.
(But I don't know what the error was! I simply started again, and there must have been a very tiny typo somewhere.)
:thumbsup:
Mike
17th December 2023, 20:59
One thing I will say, something that keeps popping into my head, is that I suspect some mediums/psychics are targeted by mischievous entities during a reading who can 'muscle in' and implant a thought into the medium's head which she interprets as her own guidance and this can very often be the case if the psychic doesn't do the 'guarding' prayers beforehand. I do wonder if this happened with Carol Clarke?
Interesting point. Or maybe it's my head that's corrupted with mischievous entities preventing a psychic connection from occurring:HELP!:
@Eva2: yes! the leaves that Billy spoke of. forgot about that. Glad you mentioned it. See, now I'm ready to jump back in the game;)
We can try to put this to the test if you like. I can go into the crystal for you. If no being comes through for you this could indicate a definite block in you. But if someone does, especially quite easily, I'd say no significant block. -And no charge at all kind sir. Never a charge. All that is needed is a genuine willingness to connect. We can use this thread in itself to act as the request, rather than the more usual channels.
Hi Casey, very cool of you to offer! Thanks:highfive:
Count me in!
Mike
17th December 2023, 22:46
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My suggestion?
Decide to take control over your own mind. Be confident, be strong. Don't listen to noise. Be your own 'authority'. Question everything. Know that you can find all the answers within yourself.
Well I do have control over my own mind. I am my own authority. I'm not forfeiting my autonomy here, I'm just seeking some spiiritual guidance:)
To be clear: this isn't something I do regularly. I've probably had roughly 15 -20 readings in the last 25 years. Sometimes I get readings on a whim. Sometimes it's after I've read a fascinating book or watched a podcast that's featured or discussed what appear to be gifted psychics. And sometimes it's when I'm at a crossroads and looking for some spiritual guidance.
I'm just a curious sort really who's prone to exploring this stuff from time to time.
Interesting. Curiosity is one thing... To be entertained, amused, not to be taken seriously. I get the sense that you want to take this subject seriously. Why did you start this thread? Right from the top, your OP states that you "want to believe".
When I suggest deciding to take control over your own mind, it means there is no need to 'believe'. The need to care falls away because you already know all there is to know. From my perspective, you are already whole, you are enough. When you say you are seeking 'spiritual guidance' that suggests to me that you think you are not enough. If you were enough, you wouldn't seek it. Seeking guidance outside yourself gives your power away, makes you vulnerable.
When you are in the center, nothing is above you and nothing is below you.
I think what you've said there is true in a spiritual/abstract sense. But in a practical sense we live in a world where all kinds of people are better at all kinds of things than other people, and it's very natural to seek them out for assistance.
If I needed to rebuild my car engine, I could buy any parts I might need and watch youtube videos and read books etc, and if I pulled it off it might be very empowering. But it's not disempowering to seek out a mechanic. It's just a pragmatic acknowledgment that time is of the essence and this individual is far less likely to screw this thing up than me.
It's true, I do want to believe. And as I stated earlier, that's one reason I've contacted psychics in my life. I started the thread as a mildly amusing rant. Not sure what I expected to get out of it honestly.
Kryztian
17th December 2023, 22:58
Why would you go out of your way to get a reading if you didn't have any expectations?:)
Good question. In one instance, it was because my friends were doing it so why not. In another, I just wanted to know about astrology. In three instances, I really was looking for answers in life. In those three instances, the reading caused me to rethink my situation (which is good, and I really didn't rely too much on what the psychic said.) By the time I finally figured out that there was was no accuracy in reading , I decided, just as well, they all taught me to be self reliant. In the meantime, I have done a few Tarot readings of my own - what ever the truth of the tarot cards is, is irrelevant - but by going through the process of doing a reading, you might get out of your stuck circular thoughts and think about the problem differently, which is something to be thankful for - well worth the price of a tarot deck and the book on how to read cards.
As far as seeing evidence of real psychic powers, I have only seen this when I wasn't looking for it. It just happens. If you aren't open to real psychic phenomena and psychic events occur, you will just convince yourself it never happened. But if you are paying attention, you will know - there is something really there.
Chris I never said psychic powers don't exist. I just said I don't have any evidence that they do.
Fair enough - but I will go back to my finding love in analogy. Those people who are constantly looking for there loved one never find it until they resign themselves to a life of being solitary - and then, someone pops into their life. Same thing with looking for psychic info. Once you decide that psi is a bunk phenomena, the universe will then show you that you are wrong. The psychic world really doesn't want to help you and make your life better. It is just a trickster and enjoys frustrating you, confusing you, and wants you to know it's there but isn't going to do anything of use for you. But this will only happen to you if you 100% convince yourself that it is impossible for it to even exist.
Casey Claar
17th December 2023, 23:16
One thing I will say, something that keeps popping into my head, is that I suspect some mediums/psychics are targeted by mischievous entities during a reading who can 'muscle in' and implant a thought into the medium's head which she interprets as her own guidance and this can very often be the case if the psychic doesn't do the 'guarding' prayers beforehand. I do wonder if this happened with Carol Clarke?
Interesting point. Or maybe it's my head that's corrupted with mischievous entities preventing a psychic connection from occurring:HELP!:
@Eva2: yes! the leaves that Billy spoke of. forgot about that. Glad you mentioned it. See, now I'm ready to jump back in the game;)
We can try to put this to the test if you like. I can go into the crystal for you. If no being comes through for you this could indicate a definite block in you. But if someone does, especially quite easily, I'd say no significant block. -And no charge at all kind sir. Never a charge. All that is needed is a genuine willingness to connect. We can use this thread in itself to act as the request, rather than the more usual channels.
Hi Casey, very cool of you too offer! Thanks:highfive:
Count me in!
Great. This is where I need you to speak with me.
I am going to copy, and say a few things here by way of confirming with you. First >> you are confident in your decision to request a rendering? ..in order to potentially see if you have put up some kind of block to what seem outside sources of information coming from the wider reality? What I do is put you face-to-face with someone from that wider spectrum. Do you feel you are ready for face-to-face contact? What is about to happen is very real. The effect can be unexpected. Second >> ( this is a copy/paste from the website rendering request page ) >>
Everything here is for everyone.
Everything is public, out in the open ( there are no private reads ). If you request a read please know it may be displayed and discussed. Purely the read, (no full names unless you are so open as to add it) as a means of helping others, and growing-together. This is our primary purpose and your genuine alignment is required for requests to be considered. Contacts which attempt to place limitations on where renderings and discussions may and/or may not be shared I will not be able to work with. If you are still working with keynotes surrounding privacy you may wish to complete with this work first, prior to requesting a read. Or,—perhaps this is an opportunity to make a leap you are indeed ready for.
Are you aligned with this? ( with the public and shared nature of the work )
If someone comes through for you, do you want the rendering to be posted here in this thread - or no? It is up to you.
Casey
Mike
18th December 2023, 00:00
Hi Casey, "confident" is a strong word, seeing as I don't really know what to expect!:) But I am up for the adventure. Is that sufficient?
You can share the reading here on Avalon and anywhere else you like. I have no issue with that.
Question: when you say put me "face to face" with someone from that wider spectrum, what does that mean exactly? And who is that someone?
Casey Claar
18th December 2023, 00:34
Hi Casey, "confident" is a strong word, seeing as I don't really know what to expect!:) But I am up for the adventure. Is that sufficient?
You can share the reading here on Avalon and anywhere else you like. I have no issue with that.
Question: when you say put me "face to face" with someone from that wider spectrum, what does that mean exactly? And who is that someone?
Mike, that's great, and yes this is sufficient.
Face-to-face means I am going to put through a face front portrait of who comes through for you. We're going to have to wait a minute to see who that is, but I have already connected and opened the dialogue.
Let's see what I am able to bring through. If the detail is good, again I would suggest no significant block in you.
It is going to be overcast and raining here in my neck of the woods the next 6 days. I generally like to work with the sun when I do what I do. But let's see what happens.
Casey
Mike
18th December 2023, 01:00
Hi Casey, "confident" is a strong word, seeing as I don't really know what to expect!:) But I am up for the adventure. Is that sufficient?
You can share the reading here on Avalon and anywhere else you like. I have no issue with that.
Question: when you say put me "face to face" with someone from that wider spectrum, what does that mean exactly? And who is that someone?
Mike, that's great, and yes this is sufficient.
Face-to-face means I am going to put through a face front portrait of who comes through for you. We're going to have to wait a minute to see who that is, but I have already connected and opened the dialogue.
Let's see what I am able to bring through. If the detail is good, again I would suggest no significant block in you.
It is going to be overcast and raining here in my neck of the woods the next 6 days. I generally like to work with the sun when I do what I do. But let's see what happens.
Casey
Wonderful, and thanks again:heart:.
DNA
18th December 2023, 14:38
Hi Mike
GREAT thread I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
Thank you. :)
I agree with you good sir.
I would like to use Edgar Cayce as exhibit A.
Edgar asked for no money.
Donation only.
He was by all accounts the most psychic of the psychics.
But....
When good old Cayce attempted to use his psychic abilities for profit via an oil capitol business were he was tasked to use his abilities to locate the liquid gold,,, the situation blew up in his face.
Using psychic abilities for financial gain seems to be a no no.
Also there was the book Abduction to the 9th planet.
I like it. I have no idea if it's legit but I like it.
In it the protagonist is told that real psychics will never ask for money to use their gifts.
The most psychic dude I've ever met was a guy named Jimmy Dodd from Scottsdale Arizona.
At the time I was a bit of a dabbler into the realm of expanded consciousness.
I had heard of this guy Jimmy Dodd who ran a healing clinic by strictly donation.
He had a massage table and folks would wait their turn to lay down on it and he would lay hands on people with the intent of healing.
I had meditated that day and my third eye was seeing pretty well.
I say this because with my third eye blazing I could see a angelic person standing behind Jimmy with her hands over Jimmy's hands.
It was awe inspiring.
The being looked at me and came over to sit in the empty chair next to me.
It was really cool.
All of this was unknown to Jimmy.
I talked to him after the class.
He was fascinated with what I told him.
I was surprised when he told me he had never seen the beings he worked with and he was fascinated to hear my description of the angelic woman.
Anyway great thread. Thank you :)
Mike
18th December 2023, 22:46
Hey Chris, same with me! I have had little hits over the years. In sports gambling, for instance, I could guess games against the spread with pretty good accuracy when I was offering advice to a friend. But when I was betting, that sense of relaxation and knowing goes poof, off into the ether.
In other words, my intuitions and psychic hits are pretty decent when nothing is on the line. I can relax and sense things, maybe. The rub there of course is that people usually need spiritual guidance most when they're stressed and heavily invested...which is when this type of phenomenon becomes most elusive.
As far as seeing evidence of real psychic powers, I have only seen this when I wasn't looking for it. It just happens. If you aren't open to real psychic phenomena and psychic events occur, you will just convince yourself it never happened. But if you are paying attention, you will know - there is something really there.
Pris
19th December 2023, 00:31
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.Interesting. Curiosity is one thing... To be entertained, amused, not to be taken seriously. I get the sense that you want to take this subject seriously. Why did you start this thread? Right from the top, your OP states that you "want to believe".
When I suggest deciding to take control over your own mind, it means there is no need to 'believe'. The need to care falls away because you already know all there is to know. From my perspective, you are already whole, you are enough. When you say you are seeking 'spiritual guidance' that suggests to me that you think you are not enough. If you were enough, you wouldn't seek it. Seeking guidance outside yourself gives your power away, makes you vulnerable.
When you are in the center, nothing is above you and nothing is below you.
I think what you've said there is true in a spiritual/abstract sense. But in a practical sense we live in a world where all kinds of people are better at all kinds of things than other people, and it's very natural to seek them out for assistance.
If I needed to rebuild my car engine, I could buy any parts I might need and watch youtube videos and read books etc, and if I pulled it off it might be very empowering. But it's not disempowering to seek out a mechanic. It's just a pragmatic acknowledgment that time is of the essence and this individual is far less likely to screw this thing up than me.
It's true, I do want to believe. And as I stated earlier, that's one reason I've contacted psychics in my life. I started the thread as a mildly amusing rant. Not sure what I expected to get out of it honestly.
For me, this isn't about someone being 'better' at something ('better' is up for interpretation). The way I see it, there's really not much of a line separating the 'spiritual' world and the 'physical' world. And, if we can be conned on 'this side', I think we set ourselves up to be conned on 'the other side'.
I, personally, do not think it's 'very natural' at all to seek out other people that are supposedly 'better at all kinds of things' for 'assistance'. If and when I feel I must do that, I know the risk to me is huge. Precautions. This is where thorough research and due diligence is required including the review of a lifetime's worth of experience. And, having done all that, there is still huge risk.
Self-responsibility.
How many people automatically assume that just because a person has a Ph.D. after their name that means they're trustworthy? We're talking about people putting their lives and health into the hands of others. That's not wise... not wise at all. I've seen what happens to those who take shortcuts and trust. (Note: Psychopaths like to choose 'high trust' professions because it gives them easy access to their victims.)
Finding a good mechanic (like a good doctor), is like finding an honest used car salesman. You can't just assume that someone who claims to be a mechanic knows what they're doing. And, when it comes to scammers, while some are just in it to scam you out of your money, others do it for the power trip, attention, and feeling important.
As for spiritual matters let alone advice on such things... We're not talking about car maintenance here. We're talking about our souls...
The art of persuasion... If we are actors on a stage, is not an audience required? Doesn't everyone have a game to play?
Speaking for myself: in my body, my mind, and in my soul, I know I am exactly where I need to be at any given moment. All answers are in the Present.
Mike
19th December 2023, 02:34
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.Interesting. Curiosity is one thing... To be entertained, amused, not to be taken seriously. I get the sense that you want to take this subject seriously. Why did you start this thread? Right from the top, your OP states that you "want to believe".
When I suggest deciding to take control over your own mind, it means there is no need to 'believe'. The need to care falls away because you already know all there is to know. From my perspective, you are already whole, you are enough. When you say you are seeking 'spiritual guidance' that suggests to me that you think you are not enough. If you were enough, you wouldn't seek it. Seeking guidance outside yourself gives your power away, makes you vulnerable.
When you are in the center, nothing is above you and nothing is below you.
I think what you've said there is true in a spiritual/abstract sense. But in a practical sense we live in a world where all kinds of people are better at all kinds of things than other people, and it's very natural to seek them out for assistance.
If I needed to rebuild my car engine, I could buy any parts I might need and watch youtube videos and read books etc, and if I pulled it off it might be very empowering. But it's not disempowering to seek out a mechanic. It's just a pragmatic acknowledgment that time is of the essence and this individual is far less likely to screw this thing up than me.
It's true, I do want to believe. And as I stated earlier, that's one reason I've contacted psychics in my life. I started the thread as a mildly amusing rant. Not sure what I expected to get out of it honestly.
For me, this isn't about someone being 'better' at something ('better' is up for interpretation). The way I see it, there's really not much of a line separating the 'spiritual' world and the 'physical' world. And, if we can be conned on 'this side', I think we set ourselves up to be conned on 'the other side'.
I, personally, do not think it's 'very natural' at all to seek out other people that are supposedly 'better at all kinds of things' for 'assistance'. If and when I feel I must do that, I know the risk to me is huge. Precautions. This is where thorough research and due diligence is required including the review of a lifetime's worth of experience. And, having done all that, there is still huge risk.
Self-responsibility.
How many people automatically assume that just because a person has a Ph.D. after their name that means they're trustworthy? We're talking about people putting their lives and health into the hands of others. That's not wise... not wise at all. I've seen what happens to those who take shortcuts and trust. (Note: Psychopaths like to choose 'high trust' professions because it gives them easy access to their victims.)
Finding a good mechanic (like a good doctor), is like finding an honest used car salesman. You can't just assume that someone who claims to be a mechanic knows what they're doing. And, when it comes to scammers, while some are just in it to scam you out of your money, others do it for the power trip, attention, and feeling important.
As for spiritual matters let alone advice on such things... We're not talking about car maintenance here. We're talking about our souls...
The art of persuasion... If we are actors on a stage, is not an audience required? Doesn't everyone have a game to play?
Speaking for myself: in my body, my mind, and in my soul, I know I am exactly where I need to be at any given moment. All answers are in the Present.
"Better" is open to interpretation when it comes to the arts or your favorite foods. But in nearly all other areas, it's objectively observable.
And that's good! It's how we navigate our way thru life.. Your whole life has been an exercise in choosing what's best for you, often by choosing a better product, better service, or better professional. And we know what's better because it's self-evident!
Often the risk is much bigger if you don't seek out someone better. I could offer 1000 examples. What if you needed back surgery? Of course you'd spend quite a bit of time researching back surgeons to determine which one is best. Or would that be disempowering?:) Would you attempt to do it on your own?
You're not violating your personal responsibility by exploiting talented people in your immediate environment. You're honoring it. You only violate it if you're overdependent on people for things you're capable of doing yourself. If I was seeing psychics daily or weekly you could accurately accuse me of that. But as I stated earlier, I've seen maybe 15-20 in the last 25 years:)
As I said earlier, I've consulted with psychics for several reasons over the years. This last time was because I'm at something of a crossroads, and the right choice isn't obvious to me. Even so, it didn't occur to me to contact a psychic out-of the blue. It's not my habit to do that. In this instance I saw a podcast featuring what seemed to be a gifted psychic. I had to make a decision about something quickly, and the chances of me becoming a psychic overnight were quite slim. So I went with the reading.
Mike Gorman
19th December 2023, 09:12
I want to believe.
But I've been getting psychic readings, on and off, for maybe 20 years and I still don't have 1 single shred of evidence that anyone on this planet has even the slightest bit of psychic ability at all.
The psychic world is largely a grift. I get no joy in saying that, but it's a reality I've finally come to terms with. All it took was 20 years and several thousand dollars.
I'd sworn off psychics until the Carol Clarke thread began here, years ago. Even David Icke said (paraphrase), "She simply never gets it wrong". Well based on my reading, she never really gets it right. Actually it would be more accurate to say that everything she says is so ambiguous, abstract, and unfalsifiable that it can't be judged either way. And I think that's the point.
I later discovered - with the help of another member here - that she stole bits from an astrology site and recited them word for word during her readings, as if they were her own revelations. The proof was undeniable.
Before Carol I'd had an assortment of readings from many different psychics, all highly reputable(and expensive). Not a single one of them even hinted at the most prominent issues in my life. Not one. Not ever.
And there wasn't any overlap in any of the messages. If they were truly psychic in some way, you'd think they'd be picking up on the same "static".
I recently began watching a podcast called "Next Level Soul", which features near death experiencers mainly. Most of the interviewees claim psychic abilities of some sort. Their stories were told earnestly and with great emotion, and I had no reason to doubt them. So I made some appointments with a few for readings. Why not?
Well I noticed a clear pattern. All 3 began with a windy prayer/meditation that consumed close to 5 mins. And then they said, How can I be of service to you? " And I was left thinking: if you're so bloody cosmic, why don't you tell me how you can be of service to me? I just paid you $200!
What kind of psychic needs to know what's on my mind ahead of time before they read me?? Surely they should already know, at least to some degree.
With the first one, I played along. I asked some questions and she asked a few back. And every few mins she'd stop to perform cleansing prayers, or something like that. It must have eaten up nearly half the reading. Again, I think it's designed that way. That's the grift.
One of them said I walked with Jesus. None of the others did, mind you. Walking with Jesus is a pretty big deal, and you'd think if it were true, the other psychics would have picked up on it. But no. This particular psychic told me Jesus was present during the reading, but "Jesus" had precious little of value to offer, strangely:) He was very vague, and general, and weirdly enough seemed to get quite a bit wrong about me...
And this is another part of the grift - appeal to ego, and hope the idiot you're reading for gets so drunk on the ruse that they fail to notice how embarrassingly bad the rest of the reading is.
Carol Clarke did this with past lives in other solar systems and galaxies. She told me right off that I was from a star system that no one she'd ever read for had been from. Only minutes after I'd posted this here a member pm'd me to say Carol told him he was from the same star system:).
When I asked one of the psychics that read for me recently what my life purpose was, she answered like this: "Well everyone's life purpose is to heal, and once you heal you'll discover what you're supposed to be doing here..."
Wow. Deep!:bigsmile: Thank you friendly psychic!
The joke, ultimately, is on me. I keep falling for it. And I'll probably fall for it again sometime in the future, because that's just what I do.
Why do I keep doing this??
I am not sure that psychic ability is all about predictions as such, I know that is the classic belief, that Almanacs and Nostradamus type predictions are what it is all about, I think it has more to do with human consciousness as a whole, and how we are all connected to the universal "Monad" - the research of Rupert Sheldrake, and the work of Arthur M Young (with his 'Gee Whiz' phase) point to the nature of 'mind at large' and how we can influence outcomes, ESP or mentally linking with one another, and the development of human knowledge. The 'Scole Experiment' where spirits of passed-on human personalities can reach us, and how they can describe the next level of existence. I asked Rupert Sheldrake directly about this Scole Experiment, because the folks who conducted this invited him to be a science observer, and credibility analyst, he told me that YES these manifestations actually took place and he had no materialistic explanations for them. Food for thought, so I don't think prediction is the true point here. No offense intended.
Casey Claar
20th December 2023, 04:27
Hi Casey, "confident" is a strong word, seeing as I don't really know what to expect!:) But I am up for the adventure. Is that sufficient?
You can share the reading here on Avalon and anywhere else you like. I have no issue with that.
Question: when you say put me "face to face" with someone from that wider spectrum, what does that mean exactly? And who is that someone?
Mike, that's great, and yes this is sufficient.
Face-to-face means I am going to put through a face front portrait of who comes through for you. We're going to have to wait a minute to see who that is, but I have already connected and opened the dialogue.
Let's see what I am able to bring through. If the detail is good, again I would suggest no significant block in you.
It is going to be overcast and raining here in my neck of the woods the next 6 days. I generally like to work with the sun when I do what I do. But let's see what happens.
Casey
Wonderful, and thanks again:heart:.
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Mike, this is really not bad, considering how we went about this.
Let me say this. Whenever I go into the crystal for contact -for anyone save myself -it is always a being in my own template that let's through your own. The being who serves as the portal tells me a lot about the being and message that is coming through for you. - for instance, it is Moirae (https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/a-random-array-of-visitors-t1518-s180.html#p16047), an aquatic being, a creature of the sea who parted the way for the main being ( far left ) who stepped forward for you. Water = emotion. + a total of 3 female entities came through : imbalance. It will be for you to say in which way this may be so in you, relative to our query. In the middle we have what I glean is data suggesting clear permission from you not being given ( to let yourself receive from outside yourself ). So, although not a block, per se, I might suggest a more productive result from your sessions may come if you give/make a clearer permission statement within yourself going in. Readings are an intimate thing, and genuine inner openness is a requisite to receiving. On the right we have what looks like something possibly indicating unresolved childhood trauma. This could be arising from somewhere within the dream state, a connecting lifetime and/or it could have manifested more clearly for you directly in your physical life. This is what we got. Can you make rhyme or reason out of it?
Johnnycomelately
20th December 2023, 08:03
Mike, most of what I had in mind to say, Pris has said upthread. All that you need for your this-life, is within you.
I know that we can choose our inputs, our ‘ideas’, our path. And I know that even the most flowery and ‘spiritual’ of these can be a wasteful detour or even harmful.
Christ taught - in the eighties is when I heard this, so then - that incarnated people are subject to inputs from discarnate ‘people’, and that their motive is to harvest our spirit energy. Said that this is our spiritual environment. Said that we are vulnerable due to our individual various weaknesses.
The best single advice that I heard, is to “press the button for the top floor”. Doesn’t mean you won’t mess up, ‘cause you gotta do some things, right? But at least it helps you get healthy, and make better sense of yourself.
I think that daily sleeps were designed to accentuate the importance of every DAY (shift work, like the “graveyard” night 12’s I did on drilling rigs, same). Our days tell us what needs working on. Your curiosity is on you, and only adds to your workload.
Cheers, and good luck.
Mike
20th December 2023, 16:51
Hi Casey, "confident" is a strong word, seeing as I don't really know what to expect!:) But I am up for the adventure. Is that sufficient?
You can share the reading here on Avalon and anywhere else you like. I have no issue with that.
Question: when you say put me "face to face" with someone from that wider spectrum, what does that mean exactly? And who is that someone?
Mike, that's great, and yes this is sufficient.
Face-to-face means I am going to put through a face front portrait of who comes through for you. We're going to have to wait a minute to see who that is, but I have already connected and opened the dialogue.
Let's see what I am able to bring through. If the detail is good, again I would suggest no significant block in you.
It is going to be overcast and raining here in my neck of the woods the next 6 days. I generally like to work with the sun when I do what I do. But let's see what happens.
Casey
Wonderful, and thanks again:heart:.
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Mike, this is really not bad, considering how we went about this.
Let me say this. Whenever I go into the crystal for contact -for anyone save myself -it is always a being in my own template that let's through your own. The being who serves as the portal tells me a lot about the being and message that is coming through for you. - for instance, it is Moirae (https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/a-random-array-of-visitors-t1518-s180.html#p16047), an aquatic being, a creature of the sea who parted the way for the main being ( far left ) who stepped forward for you. Water = emotion. + a total of 3 female entities came through : imbalance. It will be for you to say in which way this may be so in you, relative to our query. In the middle we have what I glean is data suggesting clear permission from you not being given ( to let yourself receive from outside yourself ). So, although not a block, per se, I might suggest a more productive result from your sessions may come if you give/make a clearer permission statement within yourself going in. Readings are an intimate thing, and genuine inner openness is a requisite to receiving. On the right we have what looks like something possibly indicating unresolved childhood trauma. This could be arising from somewhere within the dream state, a connecting lifetime and/or it could have manifested more clearly for you directly in your physical life. This is what we got. Can you make rhyme or reason out of it?
Thanks for the reading:thumbsup:
I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Childhood trauma? Probably, in some shape or form. Much more as an adult, I'd say.
Imbalance? Certainly. In about 1000 different ways:)
If I had any reticence about the reading it came from not knowing what to expect. But I felt about as open to something I had no clue about as I could be.
Typically, when you do readings for people, how much information comes thru? I mean, is it usually in bits n pieces or will it sometimes arrive in several paragraphs?
Casey Claar
20th December 2023, 17:38
Hi Casey, "confident" is a strong word, seeing as I don't really know what to expect!:) But I am up for the adventure. Is that sufficient?
You can share the reading here on Avalon and anywhere else you like. I have no issue with that.
Question: when you say put me "face to face" with someone from that wider spectrum, what does that mean exactly? And who is that someone?
Mike, that's great, and yes this is sufficient.
Face-to-face means I am going to put through a face front portrait of who comes through for you. We're going to have to wait a minute to see who that is, but I have already connected and opened the dialogue.
Let's see what I am able to bring through. If the detail is good, again I would suggest no significant block in you.
It is going to be overcast and raining here in my neck of the woods the next 6 days. I generally like to work with the sun when I do what I do. But let's see what happens.
Casey
Wonderful, and thanks again:heart:.
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Mike, this is really not bad, considering how we went about this.
Let me say this. Whenever I go into the crystal for contact -for anyone save myself -it is always a being in my own template that let's through your own. The being who serves as the portal tells me a lot about the being and message that is coming through for you. - for instance, it is Moirae (https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/a-random-array-of-visitors-t1518-s180.html#p16047), an aquatic being, a creature of the sea who parted the way for the main being ( far left ) who stepped forward for you. Water = emotion. + a total of 3 female entities came through : imbalance. It will be for you to say in which way this may be so in you, relative to our query. In the middle we have what I glean is data suggesting clear permission from you not being given ( to let yourself receive from outside yourself ). So, although not a block, per se, I might suggest a more productive result from your sessions may come if you give/make a clearer permission statement within yourself going in. Readings are an intimate thing, and genuine inner openness is a requisite to receiving. On the right we have what looks like something possibly indicating unresolved childhood trauma. This could be arising from somewhere within the dream state, a connecting lifetime and/or it could have manifested more clearly for you directly in your physical life. This is what we got. Can you make rhyme or reason out of it?
Thanks for the reading:thumbsup:
I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Childhood trauma? Probably, in some shape or form. Much more as an adult, I'd say.
Imbalance? Certainly. In about 1000 different ways:)
If I had any reticence about the reading it came from not knowing what to expect. But I felt about as open to something I had no clue about as I could be.
Typically, when you do readings for people, how much information comes thru? I mean, is it usually in bits n pieces or will it sometimes arrive in several paragraphs?
Mike, I usually do not give information. It is always there, but it is a time thing ( not enough of it ), I still have to work job jobs on top of all this -and over the years of doing it I have noticed that for the most part people are not ready/open to what is coming through to me. In fact they are barely open to the contact itself. Which is where we focus. All we do now is put you in contact with who comes through. The rest is for you. I know of only one person who actually works with the beings we've put through to them. That is one in a whole lot at this point. People say they want to know, yet few indeed are really willing to do any of the work necessary. I put through hundreds of these to people, while each one of you just have the being(s) who came to you. Imagine what we could bring forward if we all engaged in the work. I gave you a sample of ideas: water, emotion, female/receptivity imbalance, possible childhood trauma ( it is a female child depicted here, do not just think of yourself, or yourself as you know you now, open to wider possibilities ) - sit with all this, try to feel it all together as a singular thing specifically in regard to your query. Wonder, ponder, contemplate, this is how we open to the possibilities, how the light ( and answers ) begins to shine in. Open, open, open. Do this not once, but for as long as you need to invoke a change. Reality is from the inside out, everything begins from within ourselves *not somewhere out there -->. This is the really big thing we all have the tendency to forget. Go IN, go deep for real. See what gems you can bring up. This is the real, ie: core purpose of this work. I hope you do. I hope it helps.
DNA
21st December 2023, 07:57
So just a few minutes ago I did a search for an interview I've really been wanting to listen to.
It was from back in 2018. It was George Knapp interviewing Tom Dongo.
No luck. I can't find it. But...
I did find this interview Tom Dongo did July of 2023 with Connie Willis on coast to coast.
So I settle for it.
In the first ten minutes Tom Dongo is talking about a psychic ability he has.
An ability I knew nothing about and didn't even know existed.
He states he can medically view someone's body like an x-ray machine.
He states that he started to try and turn this into a business but that things just would not work out for him and that he has come to the conclusion that he is not supposed to be making money doing this.
Tom goes on to recant various stories using this ability but is periodically stopping to interject with the assertion that this is not a business and that he only does this for free now.
The frequency and defensiveness he interjects causes me to laugh and wonder if Tom is worried the angel administrator of psychic gifts and affairs isn't listening waiting to pull his file and stamp canceled on his psychic abilities. :)
So this is another testimony alluding to psychic abilities when they exist should not be traded or profited from.
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Mike
21st December 2023, 09:50
Marcus that's interesting...
Because most people on the forum that have had what they feel are legit readings say they come from unassuming people who are not seeking attention (and don't charge for their services). So perhaps that's some kinda cosmic rule.
I certainly believe in a form of intuition, perhaps psychic, that offers "hits" now and again to people who are paying attention. And surely the skill can be honed and refined.
But it's rarely useful in any kind of direct, overt way. If it was, I'd certainly know about it by now. I've had nearly 20 readings from highly reputable psychics now, and spent more money than I'd like to admit. I've never seen any evidence of it. This scene from the movie "Waterworld" just popped into my head (only 5 seconds long):https://y.yarn.co/05e04713-5807-4f37-bc56-78bbfebaee6a.mp4
The last 2 psychics I contacted offered "angel" and "spirit guide" readings (among many others). I'd like to believe angels and guides exist; it's emotionally comforting. But you'd think if they did, and suddenly had a direct line to me in the form of a psychic, they might say something direct and immediately useful to me...something about the issues that have been plaguing me for so long etc. But all I ever get is the same vague, blithering nonsense.
Is that because the psychics are lousy? Because guides and angels don't exist? I dunno.
Harmony
21st December 2023, 10:50
Mike, I don't know if it is the same for other people, but when I have rather "magical things" happen there usually seems to be a profound reason behind the manifestation.
When I have a need to deeply go within and ask from all my heart, or if I am in a dire situation, or someone close has died etc., then amazing things happen. Often it is for another person or animal or someone suffering deeply that information might come in. I don't have psychic abilities and just sit down and ask for lotto numbers, or information that others can't have as well on an everyday basis in this reality for no reason. It's possible that lower astral entities might be the ones that answer those kind of questions that come at a high cost with some kind of surprise payment down the track :bigsmile:.
It's hard to explain, but for me, it seems to need to have a higher connection that is somehow for a very important reason and the opening of the heart to help another or yourself for an important reason, some kind of spiritual meaning, at least for me, something important on your life path. The answers can come in dreams, visions, real life happenings, and intuition of the higher meaning of events and what they mean.
I feel you have some thing right now that you need guidance with, and it might be important that you need to go deeply and look to what that really means. Is there a way you can go into deep prayer or meditation within yourself without any cynical feelings of "I bet it won't happen for me" or something similar and don't try and "hear' a voice or answer, just stay with it and ask for a higher realisation, and that you have the patience to wait and understand, because that is what you really need right from your deepest heart sense. Feel, I am willing to hear what I need to hear, understand what I need to know from my connection to the highest scource of the good with "love". Don't worry if it sounds "silly", just feel it deeply. Do it for a while and be aware of your deepening awareness to notice and listen deeply to your "inner self" Don't joke about it, just "know" some realisation in any way is ok that you are listening. It can really work.
The answer might not come right away, it may take time. You may be looking into the distance and suddenly a realisation or meaning you didn't think of before, or a deeper meaning behind what you are asking about, or something that is happening in your life, just hits you, and wow, "I see that now" .
I really hope you can find answers. What Casey has said about opening, and really wanting inner change, is trully important.:heart:
DNA
21st December 2023, 11:58
I have a personal opinion regarding all of this.
I have a thread with the title "how to see a ghost for yourself".
All based on personal experiences and practices.
Very messy, sophomoric and clumsy I assure you.
But amidst all of that I developed the ability to see or rather peek into the etheric world, a world I would never really know exists without some blundering and idiocy I assure you.
I never got proficient really or good at it.
I've never developed what you would call a telepathic mind for these things.
Although now it sometimes feels like a waste, I don't really regret those years I spent harnessing stillness of mind, gazing for long periods and sensing something was there my eyes at first couldn't see.
But I did stop doing this stuff around 08.
And put a hard stop on it in 2012.
It's funny, the folks who wrote the "hunt for the skinwalker" books have coined a phrase called the "passenger effect".
I've always sensed this to be true.
It's why I stopped doing the stuff I'm about to tell you about.
In the "hunt for the skinwalker" books they talk about people who have gone to geographic places imbued with phenomena like skinwalker ranch in the Uinta Basin of Utah or Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona AZ.
This passenger effect as described by George Knapp and Colm Keller is the propensity for the phenomena observed to attach and to follower the observer home. Where upon the observer now sees this same phenomenon in their home, backyard, work or school setting.
Be that cryptid or poltergeist type things.
I think it's the miniature black holes. LoL
I know that sounds crazy... bare with me
We know now from the large Haddon collider at Cern, that it creates little miniature black holes while smashing atoms and it's my personal theory that like micro organisms being contagious so to can the strange physics of sub-atomic phenomena known as miniature black holes that they can be some how carried with us or in our proximity once our energetic consciousness has been in direct contact with them by simply viewing them up close and personal.
I now have little ones at home.
And I don't want to risk that.
The whole "stare into the abyss too long and the abyss stares back" sort of thing.
But if you have none of that stuff to worry about I feel the method I came up with is an over all good experience. One can debate the existence of the paranormal but it is another thing all together to experience a phenomena that you initiated and that you mostly control.
My experiences began with interacting with eartbound ghosts I could see and empathize with.
After about a year of this I discovered a few cool things.
Earthbound ghosts feed on human energy.
Giving them energy through your palms in a reiki like manner would keep then in front of you interacting and communicating.
In complete darkness you can see them.
As you feed them energy in complete darkness they become more visible.
After about a year of this a ghost crossed over to the other side while I was giving her energy.
GOD I hope I didn't just misgender her, that would be so embarrassing. LOL :)
I kid I kid.
So I'm witness to this amazing thing.
A entity comes through a pink portal of light about 6 feet off the floor.
Takes the lady ghost through the portal but lingers for a moment.
The lingering "spirit guide" points to my ceiling and everything is kind of glowing with the spilled over energy from the cross over portal. And in that energy a picture of a woman appears.
The picture is very detailed.
A pretty lady dark hair, brown eyes with a Betty page hair cut.
If 2+2 is apparent to you it was not apparent to me.
I absolutely enjoyed the experience.
And I thought I knew what this was all about.
But I'm operating on a silent movie here.
But
The next day I'm at work. On break. In the breakroom.
I'm looking through a newspaper someone had left on the table.
I flip a page and land on the obituaries.
And there staring back at me is the pretty lady with the Betty Page haircut.
Now....
Is that psychic?
I've never considered it so.
I've always known this only became possible for me because I worked really hard on meditation and quieting the internal dialogue.
Coupled with taking advantage of knowing when in absolute darkness we can see things we can't see in the light.
This event was important for me.
It told me beyond a shadow of a doubt what I was dealing with were dead people.
And not just dead people.
Confused dead people who had bit crossed over yet.
So over the next year I would focus on how to help those folks.
I sucked at first. But after about six months I happened upon a technique the famed psychiatrist Milton Ericson used for getting combative subjects to stop ranting and begin listening.
It was
"Acknowledge the possibility that you do not know everything".
I knew through empathy if they complied or not.
If they refused I would take my reiki every away.
They almost always agreed to do so when I did that. :)
I then would go stream of consciousness into possibilities about forgiving oneself and such.
I would then talk about the possibility that someone exists who has watched every moment of their life and loves them and wants nothing more than to talk with them.
After they agree to that a portal opens the pink energy comes through and they leave.
Now after all of that I've had very few interactions with folks on the other side of the tunnel.
And the few times I've managed it I got the response that this was not encouraged.
Such would develop dependence and defeat the purpose for our being here.
I've got to agree with that.
DNA
22nd December 2023, 06:20
So many great takes on this thread.
I've got a take after reading through and feeling inspired by what I've read.
I think there are two types of people in the world.
Those that like downers and those that like uppers.
Bare with me.
Those that can be stripped of their energies easily are the type that need uppers in this world.
Those who's defenses are in order and have a hard time getting to sleep usually need downers if you will.
Why do I say this?
Because there is an energetic coin to pay for things.
Especially in this line of talk.
Energy leaving the body through this matter isn't unpleasant.
It's usually euphoric. It's an enjoyable experience.
I'm going to get back to psychics but bare with me.
I don't believe in religion.
But religion is a thing.
I used to be confused by seemingly conflicting experiences.
By true believers, Christians that would touch me with a noticeable jolt of energy.
As if this power was proof they were more connected to God than I.
I was confused by the contagious euphoria I would experience while attending pentecostal church services.
As if that sensation was proof of god.
Even a powerful whirlwind that touched down and rushed toward me, audibly hitting me and carrying my hat a couple hundred feet after talking to two true believers into doubting their religion, they viewed the incident as a reason of renewed faith. Even I was like damn maybe I'm wrong.
Why do I mention religion on a thread about psychics?
Because in both cases you are asking for an intermediary between you and the spirit world.
In the case of religion there are entities, not gods but entities that bask in the attention and energy traversing the conduit of faith.
I'm of the same opinion something similar is often going on with psychics.
What kind of person are you?
Are you what I would term a more healthy type person?
One who's attention and energy are not easily "taken"?
One who is not quick to believe in things on faith?
In my previous post I talked of ghosts.
This is because for some reason my energy is easily taken.
I'm a upper kind of guy.
Coffee and ginseng please.
This is because I'm often depleted.
This isn't psychic this is a case of stealing candy from a baby.
I'm the baby, :)
I say all this because many psychics may use entities just like religions have entities.
And although the psychic may display impressive uncanny abilities a cash payment ithat goes to the psychic s mirrored with a necessary energetic payment for the entity involved.
If the customer is a healthy non-energy leaking individual and refuses to offer and or give blind faith or belief as a conduit conductor for said services, then the entity involved may not offer their services even if the cash portion of it was paid.
Damn!
I can't believe I managed to communicate that. 😊
The concept seemed so slippery and nebulous I didn't think I was going to be able to do it.
LoL
So there you go.
Going to a psychic is like going to church.
It's usually a pleasant euphoric experience as you bleed energy to an intimediary who may or may not give you the answers you seek. :)
Ewan
22nd December 2023, 09:36
So there you go.
Going to a psychic is like going to church.
It's usually a pleasant euphoric experience as you bleed energy to an intimediary who may or may not give you the answers you seek. :)
That may be pretty close to the proverbial 'nail on the head', it certainly has a ring of actuality about it to me.
Harmony
22nd December 2023, 12:25
So there you go.
Going to a psychic is like going to church.
It's usually a pleasant euphoric experience as you bleed energy to an intimediary who may or may not give you the answers you seek. :)
That may be pretty close to the proverbial 'nail on the head', it certainly has a ring of actuality about it to me.
Going to church doesn't necessaryily mean you give your energy to the church or the priest. Going to a good psychic doesn't necessarily mean that either.
You might go to a psychic, like Mike mentioned, as you would a mechanic, because that person is more experienced, that is their forte, perhaps their main purpose in life, so that person can hone in on something, especially if a client might be very upset or over taken by grief or a dreadful event in their life.
A good gifted person should help you help your self and empower you to reach your own potential, support you to heal by offering advice learned through experience and care for others.
To me, it is like listening to a good song that can bring you "up" when you are down, you don't worship a song, you listen and perhaps "retune" your self. When your thirsty you drink water to rehydrate yourself, you respect and are grateful for that water, but you don't worship that water. :sun:
Sue (Ayt)
22nd December 2023, 18:25
So there you go.
Going to a psychic is like going to church.
It's usually a pleasant euphoric experience as you bleed energy to an intimediary who may or may not give you the answers you seek. :)
To me, it is like listening to a good song that can bring you "up" when you are down, you don't worship a song, you listen and perhaps "retune" your self. When your thirsty you drink water to rehydrate yourself, you respect and are grateful for that water, but you don't worship that water. :sun:
Seems like it all boils down to empowerment.
Good psychics, good priests, good shamans, maybe even good shrinks all encourage self-empowerment of others, and seek to spread their own joy of connection with Source.
Like Jesus attempted to convey in John 14:12. (https://biblehub.com/john/14-12.htm)
I didn't have a lot of religious training as a kid, but I did explore an old bible to figure out for myself what all the hub-bub around this prophet known as Jesus was, so I decided to read and attempt to understand the red words in my bible that He himself was purported to have said. (And I did the same with other historically renowned prophet/speakers) I resonated with their actual quoted words, like the verse above.
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Casey Claar
14th January 2024, 05:03
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Mike,
She has been coming through a lot since we went in looking for you. And more colorfully.
Do you recognize her at all, by chance? Does she remind you of anyone?
Just curious.
Mike
15th January 2024, 03:14
Hi Casey, Thanks for posting it!
Hmm.. at the moment I'm not making any connection. I'll let it marinate a little and see if anything comes up.
Casey Claar
15th January 2024, 04:52
You are welcome, Mike.. she is still coming through in caricature here, there is a chance she will come through more true to life. She definitely looks Earth human, and with those large eyes and pursed painted lips, it is reminiscent of "betty boop", could be indicating a timeframe of the 1930s. Just something that comes to me.
Sloppyjoe
27th May 2024, 21:40
I want to believe.
But I've been getting psychic readings, on and off, for maybe 20 years and I still don't have 1 single shred of evidence that anyone on this planet has even the slightest bit of psychic ability at all.
The psychic world is largely a grift. I get no joy in saying that, but it's a reality I've finally come to terms with. All it took was 20 years and several thousand dollars.
I'd sworn off psychics until the Carol Clarke thread began here, years ago. Even David Icke said (paraphrase), "She simply never gets it wrong". Well based on my reading, she never really gets it right. Actually it would be more accurate to say that everything she says is so ambiguous, abstract, and unfalsifiable that it can't be judged either way. And I think that's the point.
I later discovered - with the help of another member here - that she stole bits from an astrology site and recited them word for word during her readings, as if they were her own revelations. The proof was undeniable.
Before Carol I'd had an assortment of readings from many different psychics, all highly reputable(and expensive). Not a single one of them even hinted at the most prominent issues in my life. Not one. Not ever.
And there wasn't any overlap in any of the messages. If they were truly psychic in some way, you'd think they'd be picking up on the same "static".
I recently began watching a podcast called "Next Level Soul", which features near death experiencers mainly. Most of the interviewees claim psychic abilities of some sort. Their stories were told earnestly and with great emotion, and I had no reason to doubt them. So I made some appointments with a few for readings. Why not?
Well I noticed a clear pattern. All 3 began with a windy prayer/meditation that consumed close to 5 mins. And then they said, How can I be of service to you? " And I was left thinking: if you're so bloody cosmic, why don't you tell me how you can be of service to me? I just paid you $200!
What kind of psychic needs to know what's on my mind ahead of time before they read me?? Surely they should already know, at least to some degree.
With the first one, I played along. I asked some questions and she asked a few back. And every few mins she'd stop to perform cleansing prayers, or something like that. It must have eaten up nearly half the reading. Again, I think it's designed that way. That's the grift.
One of them said I walked with Jesus. None of the others did, mind you. Walking with Jesus is a pretty big deal, and you'd think if it were true, the other psychics would have picked up on it. But no. This particular psychic told me Jesus was present during the reading, but "Jesus" had precious little of value to offer, strangely:) He was very vague, and general, and weirdly enough seemed to get quite a bit wrong about me...
And this is another part of the grift - appeal to ego, and hope the idiot you're reading for gets so drunk on the ruse that they fail to notice how embarrassingly bad the rest of the reading is.
Carol Clarke did this with past lives in other solar systems and galaxies. She told me right off that I was from a star system that no one she'd ever read for had been from. Only minutes after I'd posted this here a member pm'd me to say Carol told him he was from the same star system:).
When I asked one of the psychics that read for me recently what my life purpose was, she answered like this: "Well everyone's life purpose is to heal, and once you heal you'll discover what you're supposed to be doing here..."
Wow. Deep!:bigsmile: Thank you friendly psychic!
The joke, ultimately, is on me. I keep falling for it. And I'll probably fall for it again sometime in the future, because that's just what I do.
Why do I keep doing this??
Hey Mike,
I've had 3 readings from Carol Clarke.
In one of my readings I did find out about her reciting a paragraph from an astrology book. I found out in an unusual way actually. One of my friends showed me an astrology book and I opened it up to my birthday and I made the connection. I felt played at the time. However, in prior readings she hit the nail on the head with me. She told me things that only I think/feel, as if she knew me better than anyone but myself. She would talk about the alien connection that I've always felt right away and it put me in tears. In one reading she brought up my sister and mothers name. All in all, yes she could have looked up my family members names, she read an excerpt from the astrology book, but I swear by some of the personal things that she couldn't have known.
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