The Issue Is Always The Revolution

[Mike]

I find James Lindsay very, very useful to listen to. I know everyone has their go-to guy for socio/political/cultural stuff, but for my money Lindsay is simply heads and shoulders above everyone else in terms of his understanding of world affairs, particularly as it applies to the current cultural rot that's spreading aggressively across the globe.

Wiki describes James as an author and social critic, and while that is accurate it's hardly the full story.

Basically he's a PhD level mathematician who's decided to take on the culture wars instead of doing the things that PhD mathematicians normally do (whatever that is:)). His talent lies in analyzing the situation from a big-picture perspective, and tying together and communicating very complex ideas in ways a fool like me can understand.

The thrust of this video is this: The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

It doesn't matter what it is: Ukraine, Israel/Palestine, covid, vaccines, BLM, Queer Theory, drag queens in classrooms, Critical Race Theory, etc. They're just tools used to create the fundamental changes required to put society under Marxist control and to foist cultural revolution "logic" onto the populace.

When one of the tools is no longer useful, it's squashed, just like Mao squashed the Red Guard when they were no longer useful.

You'll notice that Queer Theory has cannibalized the feminist movement (and the BLM movement to some degree). The trans stuff sits atop the intersectional hierarchy now. It's the most effective tool for bludgeoning people into submission at the moment. When it's not, it'll be discarded and another tool will be exploited.

And then, when the bag of tricks has been exhausted, they'll trot out the old stuff again.

Because the issue is never the issue. The issue is always revolution.

You've likely noticed the very bizarre trend of 'queers for Palestine', 'BLM for Palestine', 'sex workers for Palestine', 'feminists for Palestine', etc.

Students at Harvard and Yale are making noise in support of Palestine as well. And you might have asked yourself why these groups would be supporting a Muslim nation that is so overtly hostile towards their values.

It's because the woke see a revolution happening, that's all. They care about little else. They see revolutionary potential, so it doesn't matter what the issue is.

These are all just useful props to get sea change in politics, and discard what they no longer need anymore.

Whatever advances the Marxist dialectic is good. All else is bad. It's useful to know because it makes sense of all the incoherence and apparent contradictions in the Marxist/woke movement.

Different approaches are required at different stages. So they'll varyingly appeal to different groups when it's convenient - the working class, feminists, queer theorists etc. At the moment, it's all about disruption. When stability is required, these disruptors will be swept to the side.

This is the blueprint for how leftists operate.

It's crucial to know as it helps you look above the fight. While they have us occupied arguing about the issues, we're too distracted to do anything to stop the revolution.

1 hour long:
dvgR2MHqucI

[shaberon]

It's crucial to know as it helps you look above the fight. While they have us occupied arguing about the issues, we're too distracted to do anything to stop the revolution.



I would call that Fundamentalism: the clash of Ideology.

That leads to something like "life is good, but there are a few commies going around town, we must eliminate the threat".

Yes, of course, change the label and you get different scenes.

This has nothing to do with Revolution.

A real Revolution is simply the removal of economic oppression. Even the American Revolution was almost entirely about taxation, and had about a 30% following that would have elected Washington as King, it was not really about ideology.

Most relatively modern (1848-present) ones are, of course, Fundamentalist, but for instance what just happened in Niger is not.

You can't shoot ideas; you can shoot the guy who is blocking the food truck.

So I might say this is agitprop, fear mongering, or mental poison, which yes--that clearly is employed by the "makers of free speech". Unless this is taught to you, then you are unlikely to come up with it. You will, however, respond to anything that makes you cold or hungry. Anyone is free to harbor their supremacy over me--I find it flattering. Systems that benefit the few at the expense of many are not welcome anywhere.

[Mike]

It's crucial to know as it helps you look above the fight. While they have us occupied arguing about the issues, we're too distracted to do anything to stop the revolution.



I would call that Fundamentalism: the clash of Ideology.

That leads to something like "life is good, but there are a few commies going around town, we must eliminate the threat".

Yes, of course, change the label and you get different scenes.

This has nothing to do with Revolution.

A real Revolution is simply the removal of economic oppression. Even the American Revolution was almost entirely about taxation, and had about a 30% following that would have elected Washington as King, it was not really about ideology.

Most relatively modern (1848-present) ones are, of course, Fundamentalist, but for instance what just happened in Niger is not.

You can't shoot ideas; you can shoot the guy who is blocking the food truck.

So I might say this is agitprop, fear mongering, or mental poison, which yes--that clearly is employed by the "makers of free speech". Unless this is taught to you, then you are unlikely to come up with it. You will, however, respond to anything that makes you cold or hungry. Anyone is free to harbor their supremacy over me--I find it flattering. Systems that benefit the few at the expense of many are not welcome anywhere.



Well, their revolution isn't meant to be coherent. In fact it's deliberately incoherent. A few mins ago I read the first comment left on the video. It's quite good:

"...they aren't communicating, they're manipulating. And they aren't hypocrites because they are concerned with ambiguity rather than consistency. They aren't inconsistent, they are deliberately ambivalent to different parts of the same issue. The point isn't a coherent framework. The point is to illuminate ambiguity and subject it to their twisted tool kit of manipulation. And so the dialectic progresses.. "

Most of the foot soldiers don't even know they're embodying and acting out communist ideals. They probably couldn't even tell you what communism is.

To be perfectly honest it's not obvious to me that we're talking about the same thing. I read your post 3 times and I'm still not quite sure what you mean. I'm sure my confusion is much more of an indictment on me than you. I'm out of practice with this type of print communication. You're not the first person I've struggled to understand recently. Maybe you could rephrase slightly?

[norman]

I find James Lindsay very, very useful to listen to. I know everyone has their go-to guy for socio/political/cultural stuff, but for my money Lindsay is simply heads and shoulders above everyone else in terms of his understanding of world affairs, particularly as it applies to the current cultural rot that's spreading aggressively across the globe.

Wiki describes James as an author and social critic, and while that is accurate it's hardly the full story.

Basically he's a PhD level mathematician who's decided to take on the culture wars instead of doing the things that PhD mathematicians normally do (whatever that is:)). His talent lies in analyzing the situation from a big-picture perspective, and tying together and communicating very complex ideas in ways a fool like me can understand.

The thrust of this video is this: The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

It doesn't matter what it is: Ukraine, Israel/Palestine, covid, vaccines, BLM, Queer Theory, drag queens in classrooms, Critical Race Theory, etc. They're just tools used to create the fundamental changes required to put society under Marxist control and to foist cultural revolution "logic" onto the populace.

When one of the tools is no longer useful, it's squashed, just like Mao squashed the Red Guard when they were no longer useful.

You'll notice that Queer Theory has cannibalized the feminist movement (and the BLM movement to some degree). The trans stuff sits atop the intersectional hierarchy now. It's the most effective tool for bludgeoning people into submission at the moment. When it's not, it'll be discarded and another tool will be exploited.

And then, when the bag of tricks has been exhausted, they'll trot out the old stuff again.

Because the issue is never the issue. The issue is always revolution.

You've likely noticed the very bizarre trend of 'queers for Palestine', 'BLM for Palestine', 'sex workers for Palestine', 'feminists for Palestine', etc.

Students at Harvard and Yale are making noise in support of Palestine as well. And you might have asked yourself why these groups would be supporting a Muslim nation that is so overtly hostile towards their values.

It's because the woke see a revolution happening, that's all. They care about little else. They see revolutionary potential, so it doesn't matter what the issue is.

These are all just useful props to get sea change in politics, and discard what they no longer need anymore.

Whatever advances the Marxist dialectic is good. All else is bad. It's useful to know because it makes sense of all the incoherence and apparent contradictions in the Marxist/woke movement.

Different approaches are required at different stages. So they'll varyingly appeal to different groups when it's convenient - the working class, feminists, queer theorists etc. At the moment, it's all about disruption. When stability is required, these disruptors will be swept to the side.

This is the blueprint for how leftists operate.

It's crucial to know as it helps you look above the fight. While they have us occupied arguing about the issues, we're too distracted to do anything to stop the revolution.

1 hour long:
dvgR2MHqucI

He's well on the road to being "right" but he still has to clamber up and out of the "Marxism" framework he's built his thesis out of.

When Carl Marx was a young man he wrote a poem affirming his dedication to 'Lucifer'.

Some say he was an illuminist and that may be true but I've never found a stitch of evidence to confirm that. However, illuminists are also dedicated to Lucifer so he was in the same camp whether or not he was a blood brother, which I, personally, suspect he really was.

Lucifer is running the revolution.

In it's most reduced essence, the revolution is to replace faith with belief. The vehicle to deliver that result is the corrupted intellect. The intellect cannot deal at all with pure faith but it can really screw around with belief, and under Lucifer's masterful guidance, it has. Within such an intellectual belief system, Lucifer can become 'God', and God can become a meaningless bit of superstitious clap trap forever removed from the human reality set.

Mission accomplished ! [ but we ain't quite there yet ]

[Mike]

I find James Lindsay very, very useful to listen to. I know everyone has their go-to guy for socio/political/cultural stuff, but for my money Lindsay is simply heads and shoulders above everyone else in terms of his understanding of world affairs, particularly as it applies to the current cultural rot that's spreading aggressively across the globe.

Wiki describes James as an author and social critic, and while that is accurate it's hardly the full story.

Basically he's a PhD level mathematician who's decided to take on the culture wars instead of doing the things that PhD mathematicians normally do (whatever that is:)). His talent lies in analyzing the situation from a big-picture perspective, and tying together and communicating very complex ideas in ways a fool like me can understand.

The thrust of this video is this: The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

It doesn't matter what it is: Ukraine, Israel/Palestine, covid, vaccines, BLM, Queer Theory, drag queens in classrooms, Critical Race Theory, etc. They're just tools used to create the fundamental changes required to put society under Marxist control and to foist cultural revolution "logic" onto the populace.

When one of the tools is no longer useful, it's squashed, just like Mao squashed the Red Guard when they were no longer useful.

You'll notice that Queer Theory has cannibalized the feminist movement (and the BLM movement to some degree). The trans stuff sits atop the intersectional hierarchy now. It's the most effective tool for bludgeoning people into submission at the moment. When it's not, it'll be discarded and another tool will be exploited.

And then, when the bag of tricks has been exhausted, they'll trot out the old stuff again.

Because the issue is never the issue. The issue is always revolution.

You've likely noticed the very bizarre trend of 'queers for Palestine', 'BLM for Palestine', 'sex workers for Palestine', 'feminists for Palestine', etc.

Students at Harvard and Yale are making noise in support of Palestine as well. And you might have asked yourself why these groups would be supporting a Muslim nation that is so overtly hostile towards their values.

It's because the woke see a revolution happening, that's all. They care about little else. They see revolutionary potential, so it doesn't matter what the issue is.

These are all just useful props to get sea change in politics, and discard what they no longer need anymore.

Whatever advances the Marxist dialectic is good. All else is bad. It's useful to know because it makes sense of all the incoherence and apparent contradictions in the Marxist/woke movement.

Different approaches are required at different stages. So they'll varyingly appeal to different groups when it's convenient - the working class, feminists, queer theorists etc. At the moment, it's all about disruption. When stability is required, these disruptors will be swept to the side.

This is the blueprint for how leftists operate.

It's crucial to know as it helps you look above the fight. While they have us occupied arguing about the issues, we're too distracted to do anything to stop the revolution.

1 hour long:
dvgR2MHqucI

He's well on the road to being "right" but he still has to clamber up and out of the "Marxism" framework he's built his thesis out of.

When Carl Marx was a young man he wrote a poem affirming his dedication to 'Lucifer'.

Some say he was an illuminist and that may be true but I've never found a stitch of evidence to confirm that. However, illuminists are also dedicated to Lucifer so he was in the same camp whether or not he was a blood brother, which I, personally, suspect he really was.

Lucifer is running the revolution.

In it's most reduced essence, the revolution is to replace faith with belief. The vehicle to deliver that result is the corrupted intellect. The intellect cannot deal at all with pure faith but it can really screw around with belief, and under Lucifer's masterful guidance, it has. Within such an intellectual belief system, Lucifer can become 'God', and God can become a meaningless bit of superstitious clap trap forever removed from the human reality set.

Mission accomplished ! [ but we ain't quite there yet ]

Hey Norman,

He actually does cover all that. He did eventually get there.

When I get some time I'll start a thread on that.

When you abstract backwards in any journey, it always feels like the place you've arrived at is the answer...and then of course you discover more space (particularly when it comes to the cabal). Lindsay finally arrived at what he calls "Gnostic Cults", and he traces their influence from Biblical days to the present.

[Mike]

Cross-posted from my other annoying thread "Why Do The Woke Support Palestine":

James Lindsay here in a must see, 19 minute video, describing the manipulation of authoritarian environments within the context of what psychologist Robert J Lifton calls "mystical manipulation" (which is really a form of elaborate brain-washing). One element of the mystical manipulation is achieved thru what Lindsay calls "planned spontaneity".

This is pretty self-explanatory on the one hand, and is being demonstrated all across the country at these university uprisings. They are clearly planned, coordinated, and paid for...and in more cases than most are aware, are populated with far more paid,outside agitators than actual students (he gives the example of Washington College in St Louis, among others).

These protests are largely fake uprisings, designed to look organic and spontaneous but are more often than not coordinated and planned and possess a larger agenda. It's mostly theatre. Which is all part of the "mystical manipulation", and isn't designed just for power's sake, or to possess students, but also to convince the public that something serious is happening and needs to be regarded as such. These activists are after a sense of mystique, which Lifton describes in detail in his book, "Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism". The uprisings are also used for recruitment purposes, to discover and identify the next group of radicals to spearhead the next "uprising".

It's all almost a direct copy n paste of Mao's strategies while creating the "Red Guard".

The book was written in 1961, and details Lipton's observations of Chinese men and woman who had been kicked out of China after enduring the brainwashing prisons.

James Lindsay makes clear connections between the brainwashing under Mao and the brainwashing of our younger generations in the west, particularly the woke. He reads a passage from Lifton's book that is especially revealing, describing the process:

"...at the level of the individual person the psychological response to this manipulative approach revolve around the basic polarity of trust and mistrust. One is asked to accept these manipulations on the basis of ultimate trust or faith, like the child in the arms of it's mother. So you're supposed to believe that what is happening is as it appears ..he who trusts in this degree can experience the manipulation in the idiom of the mystique behind them, that is he may welcome their mysteriousness and find pleasure in their pain, and feel them to be necessary for the fulfillment of the higher purpose which he endorses as his own...

"...but such elemental trust is difficult to maintain and even the strongest can be dissipated by constant manipulation. When the trust gives way to mistrust the higher purpose can not serve as an adequate moral sustenance, the individual then responds to the manipulations thru developing what I shall call the psychology of the pawn. Feeling himself unable to escape powers more powerful than himself, he subordinates everything to adapting himself to them..."

"...that's the effect of the mystical manipulations. He becomes sensitive to all kinds of cues, expert at anticipating environmental pressures and skillful in riding them in such a way that his psychological energies merge with the tide rather than turn painfully against himself. This requires that he participate actively in the manipulation of others as well as himself, as well as the endless rounds of betrayals and self betrayals that are required. Whatever his response, whether he is cheerful in the face of the manipulation,deeply resentful or a combination of both, he has been deprived of his opportunities to exercise his capacities of true self expression and independent action."

19 mins long:
vRVVW89fc9o