The White Race

[Ernie Nemeth]

Seems only appropriate that there be a thread for all things about The White Race.

Negative or positive, funny or tragic. It belongs here.


Let's unravel the myth about the White Race and dispel the rhetoric, if possible.


My skin is white, in winter, very brown, in summer.


I am proud of the White Race that I belong to and make no apologies.



Having said that, it is not how I identify. I am human. Color of skin has no bearing on anything.

What white people of what white country decided amongst themselves that their problem was there was not enough diversity in their countries?
Of course it was not the white race, as a majority, that brought this on themselves.
It was the minorities in our countries, that we brought in for humanitarian reasons, that has driven this mixing of races and the dilution of almost all white countries - those minorities and the NGOs and UN agencies that support and advocate for them.


It is astonishing to me that there is controversy about any White country. What is the matter? No other color skin is asked to mix their countries with other skin colors - only the whites. Why is that? Is it really about 'systemic racism'? Can whites use this argument in, say, India - that there is 'systemic racism' against them in India or China or South Africa or...?


Although it is not the intention of this thread to be racist, all responses by any skin color are welcome. Sorry, but this topic must be addressed and regardless of intent it will seem racist.
So be it.
Discussion is more important in a democracy than hurt feelings.

[Sue (Ayt)]

Somehow it seems almost inherent in human nature that there is an urge to level things out, meaning to bring down the perceived "top dogs" in general.

It is like excellency in any endeavor is resented, whether it be intelligence, talent, wealth, health, beauty, popularity, etc. - Whatever it may be that humans aspire to and feel thwarted about obtaining for themselves. Thus begins the blame game.

The white raced nations likely fall into that category, thus it was fairly simple to direct that "jealousy/victim urge as an attempt to solve the problems encountered by other nations. (although some "top dogs" obviously have achieved their status by exploitive means. Some, but not all.)

And of course, projecting any motives of "some" onto "all" may have been a survival mechanism of humans in the past that is simply no longer called for in an advanced society.

Leveling perceived peaks as opposed to raising perceived valleys may be an attempt to restore balance. ?

Just pondering thoughts here... Total expansion of everything, ie aspiration to excellency rather than resentment may hold hope, but that way of thinking would need to be instilled, and few if any cultures attempt to do that, in my opinion.

[Ernie Nemeth]

In response to Sue above:

Two things came to mind reading your post.

The evolution of the ships of war.
A set of science fiction novels about the Pak.

I believe there is an element of truth to the idea that the white race has provoked the jealousy of other races.


To that assessment I would argue that it is entirely natural that the first to take advantage of technology will likely continue to advance as technology improves. And that those countries that invested in the most advantageous technologies first would naturally dominate the world. The arms races in the building of ships of war in the last 150 years highlights this dynamic.

The Man-of-War ships of British fame were the single reason Britain could acquire and maintain a world-wide trading empire. And the building of giant ships of war itself became a threat to the British. Any country that attempted to build an armada to rival Britain's dominance of the seas required immediate and decisive violent sanction.
When iron and steel came on the scene Britain rapidly transformed its fleet to remain dominant. Then Britain went on a rampage to ensure other countries, primarily France and Germany, did not have the time or resources to build their own modern fleets.
The World Wars resulted directly from these arms races.


In Larry Niven's world there is a race called the Pak. This race is technology driven. Their planet often spawns multiple groups that then race to build war machines that can destroy the other groups. Only problem, the Pak are technology savvy and when one group develops a tech, the other groups quickly develop other tech to counter it. So the Pak very often race through technology and develop incredible war machines until the tech and the wars knock them back to the stone ages. Sometimes some of the Pak decide to go off world, perhaps in search of superior tech, perhaps to escape the certainty of their race's usual fate - eradication.

After a long journey, that included extended stays in stasis on some backwards planets and the manipulation of indigenous species to advance in technology to the point they could help the Pak continue on his journey with new parts and restocked supplies, a solitary Pak made it to Earth.
Long story short...single handedly, he destroys humanity.


There is a moral to this story that also manages to illuminate the almost inevitable direction of, what seems, any technology-driven society that results either in total destruction or ... something else?

No one seems to talk about what that something else could possibly be.

[lake]

It is an valid thread but may require quite some guidance by the mod team lol.

May I ask a question please .... Why is there a "White Race" on this planet?

How has that happened and why are we not all the same?

I know the bull given by "Trust the Science" but it makes little actual sense!
There are meant to be only 37 facial types (so cloning, maybe not .... it is just the limited number of variations) but there are vast differences between the so called "Races"

So how come there is a "White Race" at all (on a world they are not really constructed to exist on) .... why?

[Ernie Nemeth]

It is an valid thread but may require quite some guidance by the mod team lol.

May I ask a question please .... Why is there a "White Race" on this planet?

How has that happened and why are we not all the same?

I know the bull given by "Trust the Science" but it makes little actual sense!
There are meant to be only 37 facial types (so cloning, maybe not .... it is just the limited number of variations) but there are vast differences between the so called "Races"

So how come there is a "White Race" at all (on a world they are not really constructed to exist on) .... why?


Excellent! I love it.
Why indeed?

[lake]

There is the hypothetical question .... "How many generations living underground would it take to change the 'color' of a surviving group of humans skin from dark to light?"

But then you have the fact that facially you cannot alter an image of a .... lets say Chinese human .... to look like they are "White Race" (nor can you for any other race .... and the reverse applies .... you can't make a white person look Black or Aboriginal or Asian)

[Kindred]

According to Thiaoouba Prophecy, ALL the human races on Earth Came From Somewhere Else... Earth is a 'melting pot' of a number of human races and it's quite interesting that of all Earth's countries, the US is the 'melting pot' of Earth.

While it specifically identified the origins of the Black, Asian, and Polynesian races, the White race is omitted from their description. Note that they state that the Arab race is a mixture of the Black and Asian races, and the Hebrews were another, more recent race... this includes what we call the Palestinians who are Semites (of the Hebrew race), but it is to be noted that the majority of 'Jews' in Israel are of Khazarian origin - Not Semitic.

There are other 'stories' about the Nordics from different sources, like 'Aldebaran', 'Akart', & 'Ummo' and there's one that suggests some Whites came from Venus, but from a different 'level' of this physical universe where Venus is a ecological paradise, much like Earth.

Here's a link to these stories compiled by Col. Wendell Stevens... many (if not all) are archived in the Avalon library.

http://www.galactic.no/linkmap.html

Yes... we are All shades of 'tan'.... some darker than others, but all our bones are white, and our blood is red.

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[shaberon]

In classical Greece, the ideal of women's beauty was to be very pale--because they didn't have to work outdoors. Men were bronzed because they did.


It would not occur to me there was such a thing as "white race" unless someone put it as an option to select on a form.

I might agree with "multiple white races". Like for example, if you call a Malaysian a Japanese, they might smack you. It wouldn't make sense for them to be lumped together as "Asian".

Concerning immigration, we are only whites here in the west mostly because of desperation. Why would all those people basically flee the UK and Germany?? Then you got a century of Italians in order to undermine the Pope, and, when it was enough, we invented Eugenics and called them lazy and moronic and turned off the free passage. Aren't they white? Or too olivey??

A big part of the reason our Revolutionary War was fought was to make it easier to ship in more migrants from more places.


Genetically, a decent portion of Swahili Africa is mixed with Arabs and Indians for over a thousand years.

There are no Israeli descendants of Khazarians.

In America, it is hard to say anything about the open door. I can say that legal Mexicans do not like the illegals, and there is frequently animosity between Latinos of neighboring countries. Almost all of them are all mixed, sitting under a cadre of White Conquistadors who will probably never leave.

As for places like Sweden, that were *not* traditional immigration grounds, turning into some kind of vacuum cleaner in the ca. 1980s...that's a little different. That does have some kind of arbitrary, modern tinkering to it. It may be the attempt to disprove white racist supremacism. That was certainly a big deal here in the 60s. As a matter of fact I started school the year it was integrated.

What that means is, since the end of slavery, things were that bad for a hundred years. In 1960 you could just walk in some place with a sign saying No Colored. And what am I supposed to say...the supremacists are still here. But this was about people who were already living in the same area.

I think it was used as a talking point to spur bodies of relevant legislation.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

For yrs now white south africans have been run off their farms, animal and crops, some murdered, how is that turning out for SA.


RRR

[pueblo]

Is there a white race though? Surely, white is just a skin colour, not a race? Is ethnicity a better identifier than skin colour?

I realise that this may just be semantics, so apologies if this is off-topic!


Modern scholarship views racial categories as socially constructed, that is, race is not intrinsic to human beings but rather an identity created, often by socially dominant groups, to establish meaning in a social context. Different cultures define different racial groups, often focused on the largest groups of social relevance, and these definitions can change over time.

-Wikipedia

[Losus4]

All across the Western world there is a very clear psychological and spiritual war being waged upon white people. Whites are the only race who are not allowed to express any kind of racial solidarity, the kind that all other races do be default. Example: for blacks to be proud of being black, non-blacks will congratulate them for it. When whites express pride of being white, all ethnicities—other whites included—will condemn them as hateful bigots. Whites also cannot have things exclusive to them, the way blacks for example have the MOBO awards (music of black origin) For anything to be "white exclusive" would be condemned immediately, despite there being far fewer white people in global demographics than blacks or asians. Why do all races except for whites, get to be proud of their cultural and racial heritage, but whites and whites alone are not?

The Marxist parasites that infest every pillar of Western society knew they could not wage open war on us, so they did it through culture. Hence the term "Cultural Marxism." The same parasitic forces who turned pre-WW2 Germany into a degenerate, morally depraved ****hole are the very same parasitic forces who have now done the same to the US.

Whites cannot survive unless they purge this spiritual sickness from their collective psyche -

"The spiritual sickness of white people" -

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[Rizotto]

Quoting Ernie from post #1 above:

"What white people of what white country decided amongst themselves that their problem was there was not enough diversity in their countries?"

However, how does one define a 'white country'? How can anyone prove that only white people from the beginning of times had been living in a certain country?

If assuming that Canada is a 'white country', let's remember that indigenous people of another race were here already by the time that Europeans moved in. Many indigenous people were not happy about this. Sudden mass migration karma has now hit Canada. But this time it's all from the globalist cabal scheming to destroy the 'west'.

[Kindred]

An addendum to my earlier post: There is Not just one 'white' race - there are a Number of 'white' races across our galaxy, and beyond... ALL "races" are 'variations' of an overriding theme:

That of an INFINITE MULTI-DIMENSIONAL CREATOR SPIRIT, Experiencing a Brief FOCUS in a Specific Space-Time Continuum THAT WE CREATE THROUGH OUR CONSCIOUS INTENT.

Our bodies are temporary vessels to allow us to have This EXPERIENCE.

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In Unity Peace and LOVE

[John Hilton]

"The overarching goal of the “open borders” movement is to flood millions of non-Whites into all traditionally White nations. Make no mistake—this is not mere coincidence. It is White genocide by design, worldwide in application.

The United States, Great Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Australia: White people founded and populated these nations. All of these nations operated under the implicit mandate, if not explicit by law, that they existed as White nations for the posterity of the White founding stock. All of these nations had overwhelmingly White populations for the preponderance of their national histories. Now, in the beginning of the twenty-first century, all of these traditionally White nations face demographic upheavals through massive non-White immigration.

The White populations of these countries are slated to become minority populations in just a few generations."

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/10/04/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-white-genocide-by-design-part-1/

[Ernie Nemeth]

Let's not split hairs on this thread, okay? We all know what a 'white country' is. All of Europe. 45 countries.

[Ernie Nemeth]

White skin seems to be the base of the human form. Whites certainly did not adapt the color because of northern climes. This is evident in the fact that blacks have white palms and feet. Instead, black skin is an adaptation to equatorial climate. The melatonin regulation of white skin is the norm, so that they can adapt to any climate.
Which almost certainly means that all humans are not indigenous to Earth.
With our 42 Chromosomes, that proves it unequivocally.
Our closest cousin, the chimpanzee, has 44.
How did we manage to do more with less?

[Kindred]

There are no Israeli descendants of Khazarians.


From the National Library of Medicine: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3595026/

"Recent sequencing of modern Caucasus populations prompted us to revisit the Khazarian hypothesis and compare it with the Rhineland hypothesis. We applied a wide range of population genetic analyses to compare these two hypotheses. Our findings support the Khazarian hypothesis and portray the European Jewish genome as a mosaic of Near Eastern-Caucasus, European, and Semitic ancestries, thereby consolidating previous contradictory reports of Jewish ancestry. "

In other words, the majority of the European Jews who emigrated to the enforced state of Israel were of Khazarian origin.

This is not meant as an affront to the people in question. It only clarifies that which has only been inferred.

I stand by my assertion that these bodies that we inhabit are merely vessels by which we may have the necessary Experiences to enrich our SOUL.

As Jesus admonished us... LOVE ONE-ANOTHER. To do otherwise is to sow our destruction.

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[Bill Ryan]

Let's not split hairs on this thread, okay? We all know what a 'white country' is. All of Europe. 45 countries.Well, Caucasian might be a better descriptor. Russians are 'white' (mostly), and so are Ukrainians and Belarusians. Are those countries in 'Europe'? (Discuss. :))

[Kindred]

Bill... thanks for bringing that up (Caucasian)... I was tempted to use that nomenclature but figured I'd just 'go with the flow' and stick with 'White'...

[Kindred]

Well... here's a new video on Rumble.... >Get Ready for the Next Great Anti-White Swindle< 13 min

Discusses how 'climate change' will be used to justify mass migration to the West as it is the 'White's fault' that this change is destroying the ability of indigenous people to cultivate crops... and causing every other type of calamity yet to come.

https://rumble.com/v4azqab-get-ready-for-the-next-great-anti-white-swindle.html


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[Antagenet]

https://twitter.com/JillColtonFree/status/1753894796148539639

Please also read the comments/replies to this tweet.

White people are now the world minority.
Some people say that only 7% of the worlds population is Caucasian.
And that number is dropping fast.

I am very delighted to be 100% White.
But I am very sad and regretful that I didn't have any children.

[Isserley]

Let's not split hairs on this thread, okay? We all know what a 'white country' is. All of Europe. 45 countries.Well, Caucasian might be a better descriptor. Russians are 'white' (mostly), and so are Ukrainians and Belarusians. Are those countries in 'Europe'? (Discuss. :))

Yes they are part of European continent, only Russia is part of Asian continent as well.
European union is something else.

[Bill Ryan]

Right on cue, published this morning. we have this. :facepalm:

https://zerohedge.com/political/senior-bbc-employee-branded-white-people-parasitical-deviant-breed
(https://zerohedge.com/political/senior-bbc-employee-branded-white-people-parasitical-deviant-breed)
Senior BBC Employee Branded White People a "Parasitical Deviant Breed"

[Brigantia]

Let's not split hairs on this thread, okay? We all know what a 'white country' is. All of Europe. 45 countries.Well, Caucasian might be a better descriptor. Russians are 'white' (mostly), and so are Ukrainians and Belarusians. Are those countries in 'Europe'? (Discuss. :))

I've often seen Russia referred to as 'Eurasian', i.e. with a foot in each continent.

[Ernie Nemeth]

See how the lines blur when scrutinized.

That is because like any color of skin, it is a matter of perspective.

For instance, Nikki Haley. I have been following the American political scene for 4 years now. Until just a few weeks ago I had classed Haley as white - because she looks white, is white skinned.
Imagine my surprise when told of her background. So, now she is brown - not because of skin color, which is white, but because of heredity.


Unlike Europe, North America cannot claim white nationhood. Here, the two countries of USA and Canada, are mixing pots of all nationalities and skin color. Whites have no original claim to these lands. They might have conquered it, but the United Nations has long ago assailed our shores with every ethnicity claiming refugee status - often because of direct meddling in their natural countries by USAinc. causing havoc and turmoil there.

I do not know if there is a precedent for claiming whites are more technologically savvy than other races or if they were just lucky to embrace technology first. But the Pak story illustrates what happens when technology is the driving force of any nation or world. Technology drives itself, it seems. It seems likely that technology leads down the same road regardless where it is employed.

This is because war is inevitable on any planet with a burgeoning intelligent species. It is often the least expensive way to accumulate surplus goods, workers, and proxy armies. But it costs the looser everything. To the victor goes the spoils, as they say.

Now mix in a technological arms race and the road to disaster becomes fixed, it becomes inevitable. Technology devours even the best intent of its most enlightened intelligencia.

We might think that technology is neutral, but it is not. We might believe that technology can be used for good as well as for ill. It cannot.

A world fixated on war reaps what it sows. If it uses technology to advance its war machine, war is the direction of its tech. War tech cannot be repurposed, it always leads to devastation.


If whites are solely responsible for war tech, which might be a stretch, it does not follow that whites are evil or even truly supremacists. The tech leads the way, not the humans who invent it. The tech of war is a living beast, with its own unstated goals. Whites are not to blame for that.

The problem is attitude and ideology, not skin color. To develop technology that promotes peace requires a change in ideology, which naturally alters the attitude of its proponents. Only in a world focused on peace can technology better our lives.

That is not a matter of skin color.

Instead, it requires wisdom and experience brought about by open dialog, heart-centered sincerity and soul-searching honesty.

No skin color has that market cornered.

[Sue (Ayt)]

A world fixated on war reaps what it sows. If it uses technology to advance its war machine, war is the direction of its tech. War tech cannot be repurposed, it always leads to devastation.



Your words bring to mind the 1983 movie "Wargames."
Some comprehended the concept back then, but sadly it wasn't instilled in the mass consciousness as it could have been.
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[lake]

I have considered multiple times to post again in this thread (researched everything I may post and constructed the information) but each time I just thought "Sod it!" <<< and this post is not me posting it .... just me rambling (only meant a short few lines but lol)

The "White Race" will get what they have allowed via their accepted "FEAR".

I am "White" .... but it is quite funny to me now watching the implosion and destruction of the UK, Europe, USA, Canada and other "White" countries.

The mass of "White" people have become soft, weak and frankly, stupid!

Idiots.

So I nolonger have a feeling to 'protect' my own land of birth.
I joined the Royal Marines when I was young .... There is ZERO chance that I would defend this 'England' now .... ZERO.

I will try and help my family and friends .... but to be honest, they are more like NCP's then anything else!

Back in the early 2000's , I tried to speak with many folk about this countries problems .... none cared.
Around 2012 , I tried multiple times to get folk to "Think" .... nothing .... crickets!

I used to do work for 'Indian' folk .... They all protect their own. They own businesses here and ONLY employ their OWN.
When they need a new employee, they ask extended family back HOME and the 'wife' of the soon to be new employee gets a student visa which means that the husband (and all kids) can come and work for them!
One I know of right now. The wife is on a 'law' degree and so the husband works for the firm.
Actually she has finished the degree .... (this is in English Law) and they will not be leaving, actually they are bring their extended family over now!

Muslims I am friends with also ONLY interact when possible with other Muslims (Big thing is that they all marry their OWN).

All these millions of people coming into the UK, do NOT integrate into the current culture ... they group together and re-create their culture in 'pockets' all around the UK!

This can easily be seen even via the 2021 on-line census maps .... you can view the 'invasion' and 'take over' of areas.
Even Jewish people do it (there is one big area just north of London which is vastly Jewish) .... although London, while being the capital of the UK, is NOT "White" anymore .... just look at the census map (I am surprised the map is allowed but then all their data is most likely a lie anyway .... so it is more likely that it is much worst).

https://www.ons.gov.uk/census/maps/

Just look at the map. I now find it funny.

So much in it. Who works and who doesn't. Who lives here but does NOT consider this their "home".

Talking of what is "Home"!

So all these millions and millions and millions of people who have left their "Home" come for a better life in "White" countries because their 'Culture' and 'Country' has failed them .... their life is sh*t there!

BUT, once here they do NOT become a part of this country (many never even learn to speak English).

No, they re-create the culture that FAILED them in their country, then all group together in areas .... and then sodding blame "White" people for their failures!

And the mass of "White" people (all those who queued up to be injected with crap they knew NOTHING about but did it because the television told them to and worn masks and let their own family members die without any human touch) .... I am meant to 'care' about what happens to them now?

No.

Actually a rather funny interaction these days is having people ask me about "immigration"!

Conversation normally goes a tad like this:

White person: All migrants are welcome to come and live here!

Me: I think that we have taken vastly too many already and should remove vast amounts of those here currently! We are just a little Island!

White person: You RACIST bastard! You have no idea about real people's problems! We can take many, many more and should!

Me: OK .... So we just differ on the number that a small land should take! I am saying that the millions we have already taken is vastly too much .... so I ask you "At what number do YOU turn round and state that it is too many"?

Me: The WHO states that there are approx 2 BILLION people on less than 1 dollar a day and about 5 BILLION on less than 5 dollars a day (*** note just taken off my head may be incorrect but the numbers are stupid anyway) ALL of those folk would 'like' to come and live your life here!
So, at what number for this small island called Britain would you say "ENOUGH"?
Is an extra 30 million the point you join me, or will it be 50 million .... maybe 100 million more on this little piece of land .... end result is that YOU WILL JOIN ME IN SAYING TOO MANY

White person: <leaves>

I now just view the blue and yellow flag wavers .... while I eat some popcorn.

[lake]

I should add to my above post with regard to the 'Census Map'

You can zoom in to any UK Postcode and see all the data on that single area!

I know "White" people who have left cities who used it to find another place to live!
I also know Indian Hindus who used it to find an area to buy a house so that they wouldn't buy in a Muslim area!

The only "Race" which does NOT care about it's own .... is the "White" race of this thread's title!

[Losus4]

Good post, Lake!

I've also experienced working with and for Indians and they do only look after their own. In fact, the very concept of diversity and multiculturalism only exists in the minds of white people. No other ethnicity cares for it, and certainly do not wish it upon their own lands. The Japanese people don't go to bed at night wishing 100'000 non-Japanese speaking African migrants would move in overnight. If you went to Tokyo and saw more Africans than Japanese, you would think something seriously wrong. Well that is exactly what is happening in the West. All major Western cities are slowly becoming Mogadishu. White people have been brainwashed to believe that such a thing is good for them and their children, when it simply isn't.


I know "White" people who have left cities who used it to find another place to live!
I also know Indian Hindus who used it to find an area to buy a house so that they wouldn't buy in a Muslim area!!

True. The fact that whites/indians are moving out of these high migrant areas shows that given the choice, all ethnicities choose not to live in multicultural areas.

[Ernie Nemeth]

If, indeed, the idea of diversity is a 'white' ideation, it was put in their minds by the enemies of the west. These enemies were working on the conscience of well-meaning progressive Liberal 'whites'. They snuck in on the 'climate emergency' issue and the #metoo/BLM/Antifa movements - innocuous, innocent, even seemingly obvious areas of injustice like reparations, diversity, and equity. The social justice warrior movement of the past was highjacked by non-white, non-Christian, anti-west activists lead by the UN, China, and the globalist elite. It is a Nazi/Communist amalgamation of NGOs and fanatical left ideologues who desire nothing less than the destruction of the western world.
Any means justifies that end, and we are witnessing the result of that sentiment.

Sure, stupid 'white' people. What does that say of those that have taken advantage of the situation and invaded the western nations in hoards (not all 'non-whites').

At its core, what we are witnessing has nothing at all to do with minorities or whites or injustice or reparation or climate change.
Instead, it has everything to do with the passing of the baton of world power from the USA to China, as established long ago by the UN and the globalists.

This is the end game.

And right now, the 'white' race is in the way.
Whether they deserve their fate or not has nothing to do with it.


[it began in the public arena when Nixon et al, went over to China in the 60s, followed by Brentwood agreement in 70s, free trade in 80s, and so on to de-dollarization today, etc.]

[shaberon]

There are no Israeli descendants of Khazarians.


From the National Library of Medicine: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3595026/

"Recent sequencing of modern Caucasus populations prompted us to revisit the Khazarian hypothesis and compare it with the Rhineland hypothesis. We applied a wide range of population genetic analyses to compare these two hypotheses. Our findings support the Khazarian hypothesis and portray the European Jewish genome as a mosaic of Near Eastern-Caucasus, European, and Semitic ancestries, thereby consolidating previous contradictory reports of Jewish ancestry. "

In other words, the majority of the European Jews who emigrated to the enforced state of Israel were of Khazarian origin.


This is a one-person study that was immediately disproven.


25 authors (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25079123/):


No evidence from genome-wide data of a Khazar origin for the Ashkenazi Jews

Wayne State University Press/National Library of Medicine

We can compare the two papers in blazing detail, and then check who is promoting the first and ignoring the second.


Any guesses?

The majority of migrants were of Ukrainian origin. Well, that was nothing but a boiler of white on white genocide.


It is however correct that White was cherished on historical and legal documents until fairly modern times. For example that is why White People helped the Greeks because they thought the Turks were non-white. Then they gave Albania to the Albanians and all this other stuff, until--well, why shouldn't we give Palestine to the Jews?

Like that.

This silly insinuation made it all happen. It was a white person's idea.

You can't get more English and Whiter than Zion.


I am not sure how "Europe" holds much significance, but, there were more Jews in Ukraine because they had been suppressed and attacked everywhere in western Europe since the 1300s. Driven out.

I know that "White" was definitive in early American documents and it might be interesting to see how many countries used this and when they stopped.

Iranians and some Indians are rather white, but I expect they don't come into consideration, since they do not live on the land mass, Europe.

Iran also did not colonize, for example, Brazil, so they don't have any links for waves of subjects to come demanding appeasement.

[shaberon]

At its core, what we are witnessing has nothing at all to do with minorities or whites or injustice or reparation or climate change.
Instead, it has everything to do with the passing of the baton of world power from the USA to China, as established long ago by the UN and the globalists.


[it began in the public arena when Nixon et al, went over to China in the 60s...]



What is called Constitutional government emerges from that time period called The Enlightenment, which is based on Jesuits entering China and copied everything they could about Confucianism.

This dominated European education and politics in the 1600s and moved forward in various ways. None of which ever placed an Enlightened Monarch on the British throne. The European countries are perhaps missing their monarchies.

Napoleon used it to tune an entire country to a war industry. This, of course, soon became the status quo via Industrialization.


The idea for these non-monarchial governments is Chinese.

The Ming Empire threw out the Jesuits for political meddling and essentially banned foreigners, saying we won't take over the world, it will come to us.

I am not sure why White people do not understand their education is mostly Chinese to begin with, and, that they, too, are minor players, but this stuff is of mathematical certainty.

Yes, of course most Indians, Chinese, and Japanese are highly nationalistic, would not be that interested in some kind of pan-Asian groupthink identity, and would be more likely to be prejudiced against minorities in their own regions.

I don't quite consider myself as having a race or nation, but, rather, those who consider themselves as thrown off the land by The Bank, making you a refugee, or a scattered remnant of something that would not have any valid claim to anywhere its ancestors may have lived.

That is how I have found open doors to things that are foreign cultural property. There's nothing here. I got it somewhere else.

[Eva2]

Check out first 30 minutes - Geesh!

'Tucker Carlson 2/10/24 | Tucker Carlson February 10, 2024

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Rich white ladies pay $5,000 to be told they're naughty little racists. What is that? Jason Whitlock knows.'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_APOWFjgFQ?si=g8ijUi9FNjsSwUH9

[Kindred]

There are no Israeli descendants of Khazarians.


From the National Library of Medicine: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3595026/

"Recent sequencing of modern Caucasus populations prompted us to revisit the Khazarian hypothesis and compare it with the Rhineland hypothesis. We applied a wide range of population genetic analyses to compare these two hypotheses. Our findings support the Khazarian hypothesis and portray the European Jewish genome as a mosaic of Near Eastern-Caucasus, European, and Semitic ancestries, thereby consolidating previous contradictory reports of Jewish ancestry. "

In other words, the majority of the European Jews who emigrated to the enforced state of Israel were of Khazarian origin.


This is a one-person study that was immediately disproven.


25 authors (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25079123/):


No evidence from genome-wide data of a Khazar origin for the Ashkenazi Jews

Wayne State University Press/National Library of Medicine

We can compare the two papers in blazing detail, and then check who is promoting the first and ignoring the second.


Any guesses?

The majority of migrants were of Ukrainian origin. Well, that was nothing but a boiler of white on white genocide.


It is however correct that White was cherished on historical and legal documents until fairly modern times. For example that is why White People helped the Greeks because they thought the Turks were non-white. Then they gave Albania to the Albanians and all this other stuff, until--well, why shouldn't we give Palestine to the Jews?

Like that.

This silly insinuation made it all happen. It was a white person's idea.

You can't get more English and Whiter than Zion.


I am not sure how "Europe" holds much significance, but, there were more Jews in Ukraine because they had been suppressed and attacked everywhere in western Europe since the 1300s. Driven out.



This reply is a bit 'late', but that's because I happened upon some additional info just today... As to the European 'jews' origins.

Dr. Eran Elhaik, geneticist researcher at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, found that today’s “Jews” originated from Khazaria and not Israel. They are not the seed of Abraham.

The newest DNA science finding is from Dr. Eran Elhaik (“a Jew”) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In research accepted December 5, 2012 and published by the Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society of Molecular Biology and Evolution, it was found that the “Khazarian Hypothesis” is scientifically correct.

https://onecanhappen.com/2017/12/09/johns-hopkins-dna-study-most-israeli-jews-not-semitic-originate-from-khazaria-not-israel/#comment-31281

Just to keep things 'real'...

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[Michel Leclerc]

The best approach is to treat people like dogs.

There are cocker spaniels, pointers, border collies, huskies. Chihuahuas, chowchows.

They are all dogs who sniff each other’s behinds and fornicate together.

I suggest we follow their examples.

Instead of saying: I hate Japanese because I do not want to fornicate with them, let us say: I want to fornicate with one Japanese so that I do not hate them any more.

It is a simple, effective and pleasurable approach.

[shaberon]

This reply is a bit 'late', but that's because I happened upon some additional info just today... As to the European 'jews' origins.

Dr. Eran Elhaik, geneticist researcher at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, found that today’s “Jews” originated from Khazaria and not Israel. They are not the seed of Abraham.

The newest DNA science finding is from Dr. Eran Elhaik (“a Jew”) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In research accepted December 5, 2012 and published by the Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society of Molecular Biology and Evolution, it was found that the “Khazarian Hypothesis” is scientifically correct.


This is not new. It is a 2013 paper by one author, with, most likely, a political bias.

Ever since then, it has been trolling the internet telling us about the Khazarian hypothesis.

Did you even look at the other paper, or did you just repeat something that is already repeated?


This hypothesis is based on an avid need for the "Lost Tribes", which, itself, is silly.

Jews were driven out of England and western Europe by pogroms starting in the 1300s. That is why they might appear Ukrainian, since, at least once, this was Orthodox territory, which is really just an additional target and victim of the Pope and Protestantism.

The reason they have any power is Oliver Cromwell, followed by the support of every British government since then.

Understandably, the "Jewish threat" or Khazarian hypothesis is the voice of British Fascism. Nesta Webster, Lady Queenborough, et al.

The British are Nazis just because Churchill loved Hitler and they are 100% behind the current Ukrainian and Israeli problems?

Yes, of course they are.

And no, Ashkenazis are not Khazarians. That's just someone trying to pass the blame.

[DNA]

If, indeed, the idea of diversity is a 'white' ideation, it was put in their minds by the enemies of the west. These enemies were working on the conscience of well-meaning progressive Liberal 'whites'. They snuck in on the 'climate emergency' issue and the #metoo/BLM/Antifa movements - innocuous, innocent, even seemingly obvious areas of injustice like reparations, diversity, and equity. The social justice warrior movement of the past was highjacked by non-white, non-Christian, anti-west activists lead by the UN, China, and the globalist elite. It is a Nazi/Communist amalgamation of NGOs and fanatical left ideologues who desire nothing less than the destruction of the western world.
Any means justifies that end, and we are witnessing the result of that sentiment.

Sure, stupid 'white' people. What does that say of those that have taken advantage of the situation and invaded the western nations in hoards (not all 'non-whites').

At its core, what we are witnessing has nothing at all to do with minorities or whites or injustice or reparation or climate change.
Instead, it has everything to do with the passing of the baton of world power from the USA to China, as established long ago by the UN and the globalists.

This is the end game.

And right now, the 'white' race is in the way.
Whether they deserve their fate or not has nothing to do with it.


[it began in the public arena when Nixon et al, went over to China in the 60s, followed by Brentwood agreement in 70s, free trade in 80s, and so on to de-dollarization today, etc.]

Ernie my hat is off to you.
I've thought about doing this kind of thing but in all honesty I didn't feel up to it.

Your doing a great job of keeping this about the globalists vs white people and utilizing every useful idiot along the way to make it happen.

John Coleman said all of this would happen in his 1994 book the committee of 300.

Thank you Ernie.

[Mike]

Hi Ernie, I agree with Marcus. You're doing a great job here.

Are you at all familiar with Jared Taylor? He's a self-described "race realist" and "white advocate". He touches on some very controversial issues (race IQ being one), but he always handles himself gracefully and thoughtfully.

I'd never heard of him until recently; he popped up in my youtube feed. When I googled him and saw that he was repeatedly accused of being a "white supremacist", I immediately suspected he was completely reasonable and worth a listen:) Because that's what they do with all forthright and honest whites these days who have the guts to tackle sensitive issues - call them a "white supremacist".

I don't necessarily agree with everything the man says, but I watched this with great interest and I think you will too. There are loads of Taylor interviews out there, but this is the one I started with, for better or worse:
4QWz5uwyFQc

[Ernie Nemeth]

Thanks to DNA and Mike.
I have had more than a bit of trepidation creating and posting on this thread.
That is why I went ahead and did it anyway.
I won't allow myself to be silenced - they'll have to do that personally and actively.
Self-censorship is self-deprecation, I'm not in to that.


The video above has some very interesting points. One of my main points, that I bring up with anyone I might get into a conversation with about diversity, is which whites decided amongst themselves that what their nations needed was less whites? Of course it wasn't the whites that initiated this agenda. It was a faction of the minorities already present in the white nations and a global movement lead by a few white multi-billionaires, backed up by their NGO front companies, the UN, China, and the fanatics on both the left and the right.

Whites are Christians, and many Christians have a guilt complex. When drilled down upon, it is due to their belief in original sin. Ask any Catholic about their deep-seated guilt. Guilt can be played and turned to other purposes. This is the door that the enemies of the west opened and once inside they unleashed their poisonous rhetoric on the white nations. They got in through the white nation's Christain tendency to feel guilty and the need to repent and make amends for any imagined transgression.

It was a perfectly played ploy. For most European Countries it is already too late. Most white nations of the past will not survive this onslaught. The white race will be displaced and divested of both power and territory. They will become The New Jews of the New World Order.

I don't think there is anything that can be done about it either anymore...

[Mike]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5b/df/6a/5bdf6abb72cfeccafe4e8c0667ab5e5a.jpg

[Mike Gorman]

Caucasian is the biological descriptor for the pale skinned race, Slavic, Celtic, Nordic, Saxon (Germanic) - for example my personal heritage is Anglo/Celtic, or Saxon blended with Celtic ancestors, probably some Viking blood along the way, I have the robust fairly tall disposition that is the result of this blend, we white folks have a considerable mixed origin. I think Asian racial type is vastly different to the Caucasian, likewise the African tribes are different again. As a racial group we seem to have achieved a great deal more than other racial types, and we have striven to share this around - more so than all of the other racial groups who manifest a much more hostile and exclusive set of behaviors. Today we seem to be reaping the whirlwind of our generosity, had we been as insular and exclusive as the Chinese the world would look very different! The human condition has paradoxes and quirkiness, we can all interbreed so we must have a ubiquitous and contiguous consanguinity, we are indeed all "Human", we have to learn to co-exist, we do after all share this planet, that is the important thing to remember.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Ernie, I agree with Marcus. You're doing a great job here.

No, he's not. It's too simplistic, it's not accurate, it's too generalized, it's divisive, it offers no solutions or any kind of wisdom, and it's not helpful.

It's not about "race", it's about culture. I wrote about that at the start of the very long Racism (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100738-Racism) thread (which I started myself in 2017), but then gave up posting on that quite quickly. :)

For some context, Ernie himself wrote on that very thread back in November 2023:


White is not a race.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi Bill.

Ernie started this thread because he has not been able to simplify this topic accurately enough for his liking. That is what he does, simplify the complicated.

It is not me who says white is a race, it is our enemies. I am just using their language.

In Canada, the government used to use the phrase, 'visible minority'. That is an accurate term for anyone of any skin color, including 'white'.
We are all minorities in this mixing pot of a country, same with the USA.
Skin color is not a race but it is the perfect criteria for divisiveness, yes.

The skin color, 'white', is under attack, there is no argument there, I don't think.

Since my skin color is white, I have a stake in the outcome of this thread.

But if the forum thinks this thread is not useful, so be it. I bow to the will of the majority.

[Bill Ryan]

It is not me who says white is a race, it is our enemies. I am just using their language.Mods could easily change the threat title to The 'White Race'.

But Ernie, it's all a mess. It really is all about culture.

The Spaniards and Portuguese are 'white', yes?

So are Venezuelans, Colombians, Ecuadorians, Bolivians, Argentinians, Chileans, Uruguayans, Paraguayans and Brazilians 'white' as well?

Russians? Belarusians? Ukrainians? (I asked this question earlier on the thread.)

Or is it about Christianity, as you suggested in the Should Christians support Israeli military action (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122427-Should-Christians-support-Israeli-military-action) thread?

But Israel is NOT a Christian country, nor is Judaism a Christian religion. They regard Jesus as an imposter, a false prophet. And almost all South Americans are strong Catholics, while Putin himself is a devout Orthodox Christian. And (as I'm sure you know) many Palestinians, whom you seem to fear, are Christians themselves.

here's President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. Is he white? (He sure looks white to me. :P)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Bashar_al-Assad_meets_with_Khamenei_2022_%28cropped%29.jpeg/220px-Bashar_al-Assad_meets_with_Khamenei_2022_%28cropped%29.jpeg

(and more, and more, and more :))

[Mike]

Hi Ernie, I agree with Marcus. You're doing a great job here.

No, he's not. It's too simplistic, it's not accurate, it's too generalized, it's divisive, it offers no solutions or any kind of wisdom, and it's not helpful.

It's not about "race", it's about culture. I wrote about that at the start of the very long Racism (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100738-Racism) thread (which I started myself in 2017), but then gave up posting on that quite quickly. :)

For some context, Ernie himself wrote on that very thread back in November 2023:


White is not a race.



I disagree with all of that:)

White is a race. Just like Black, Asian, European, Native American, Middle Eastern, etc.

It's a broad category, and it lets us down a little when we try to get very specific, but it's more useful than troublesome. Doesn't mean we should dispense with it.

We can spend the next year quibbling over what "race" means exactly, but I know what it isn't: some socially constructed mirage. That is too simplistic, too generalized, and inaccurate.

If you mean to say that culture is a more accurate way of defining ourselves, okay, but I'm not willing to pretend that culture and race aren't woven together like a double helix. We're talking about the same thing - you're just using a less "divisive" term.

And if we can't discuss divisive stuff, what are we doin here?

[DNA]

It is not me who says white is a race, it is our enemies. I am just using their language.Mods could easily change the threat title to The 'White Race'.

But Ernie, it's all a mess. It really is all about culture.

The Spaniards and Portuguese are 'white', yes?

So are Venezuelans, Colombians, Ecuadorians, Bolivians, Argentinians, Chileans, Uruguayans, Paraguayans and Brazilians 'white' as well?

Russians? Belarusians? Ukrainians? (I asked this question earlier on the thread.)

Or is it about Christianity, as you suggested in the Should Christians support Israeli military action (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122427-Should-Christians-support-Israeli-military-action) thread?

But Israel is NOT a Christian country, nor is Judaism a Christian religion. They regard Jesus as an imposter, a false prophet. And almost all South Americans are strong Catholics, while Putin himself is a devout Orthodox Christian. And (as I'm sure you know) many Palestinians, whom you seem to fear, are Christians themselves.

here's President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. Is he white? (He sure looks white to me. :P)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Bashar_al-Assad_meets_with_Khamenei_2022_%28cropped%29.jpeg/220px-Bashar_al-Assad_meets_with_Khamenei_2022_%28cropped%29.jpeg

(and more, and more, and more :))


If you're in the USA a Hispanic person south of the American boarder will get offended if you call them white.
An Israeli would cringe at being called white and quickly correct you letting you know that to be a Jew is racial as well as religious.

I understand insulating yourself against the lower common denominator of culture.

Bottom line...

White people are under attack right now.

If you allow your white child to attend a public school right now you are either grossly misinformed or you do not care for the well bering of your child.

Video after video is taken of white children bering beaten... sometimes to death by groups of black teens.
This is because the "culture" says whites are worthless and the cause of all problems.

So what should whites do while they wait for the culture, to change?

I'll tell you what they should do.
They should pay attention to the racial demographics of where they live and choose areas that are more beneficial for them.
I.E. they should choose to live among their own kind.

Wish in one hand and sh!t in the other and see which one fills up first.
I'm not taking any chances.

I wish I could leave the country and live on a mountain like you Bill.
You have to admit...
You saw chaos coming and removed yourself from it ahead of time.
Well this is part of that chaos you saw coming.

[Ernie Nemeth]

That is exactly the kind of data I am looking for.

There are many countries that are primarily white that are not from Europe.

The cultural component does seem to tie back to Europe, though. South America speaks Spanish and some Portuguese, and spots of ancient regional dialects. The religion is also influenced by Europeans.


Maybe what I am groping towards is the influence of European culture on the world. I am open to that.
Yet that culture was exported to the globe via technology. And intrigue. Can't forget the intrigue, the conspiracy, the nefarious intent, and the consequent psi-ops that accompanied those gambits.


Come to think of it, 'culture' is another of those words, isn't it, with an ambiguous definition.

Can it be described as: Culture is the dynamic interaction of a complexity of influences across the entire demographic of a city, region, country or the globe, that defines the acceptable behavior, expression, and traditions of its citizens?

Culture is the societal glue that ensures cohesion, civility, and camaraderie.


It is dangerous when a society embraces a culture that emphasizes the superficial and ignores the intrinsic details of the human condition.

It is even more dangerous when culture is influenced by misrepresented facts and prejudicial bias by a small segment of society.

[DNA]

Bill watch this 20 minute Alex Jones recent piece titled

Attacks on whites increasing while MSM promotes tribalism.

https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/1752077235366871398?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752077235366871398%7Ctwgr% 5E7bb2bd9bc8cab79a8baa1199bee1197fcb1ef8d9%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2F



Here is the banned.video version it would be easier to inbed.

https://banned.video/watch?id=65b7f63a4b8bcd1b7655a689

[Bill Ryan]

Attacks on whites increasingYes, I absolutely understand and agree. I was talking about this whole problem 20 years ago to anyone who would listen, when the UK was being overrun by immigrants from Asia and Africa.

I've posted frequently on the The migration crisis on the US-Mexico border (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114419-The-migration-crisis-on-the-US-Mexico-border) thread. The US is being destroyed systematically and deliberately from within.

My point is really that to have a meaningful, productive, eye-opening discussion about all this, we have to be a little more precise with what we're trying to describe.

I've spent time in India, and all I met were wonderful people. The same in Africa. In some of my recent previous lives I spent 1000 years in Tibet. I wasn't white-skinned then. :)

The most spiritually gifted man I ever met, a close personal friend, was a Pakistani who was a Sufi Master. (When in his early 40s and in perfect health, he declared that his life's purpose was complete, threw a party for his friends, sat down in a chair, and left his body. For good. He just closed his eyes and purposefully died. I've never heard of any other instance like that.)

And the only person I know from the Middle East (a Moslem! Take note) is from Lebanon, speaks 6 languages, and is the webmaster and personal assistant for a Princess of one of the Royal Families in the UAE. (I met her as well, spent a lot of time with, and she too was a wonderful person, a committed Project Camelot supporter.)

One of Avalon's most gifted and longstanding members (whom I won't name here, but whom I've met personally several times) lives in the US but is Iranian, a senior Math Professor in one of America's most prestigious universities.

Mashika — possibly my favorite Avalon member of all time :heart2: — is half Russian Cossack and half Japanese.

We just have to be very careful with our loose generalizations.

Of course, some white-skinned people in America and Canada (and some in Europe) are most certainly being targeted, demonized, and discriminated against, and also as a (partially correct) generality are being blamed for a whole bunch of the world's ills.

But how should we best talk about this?

:grouphug:

[Jaak]

Caucasians dont have much to do with caucasia.White people most likely came from northeast asia(probably survivors of Hyperborea) around 10-11 000 years ago and split into several groups.One reached north of India ,second group reached Iran/Persia,third to Palestine,fourth to Greece and fifth to france and other parts of europe (celts and anglo-saxons and nordic people etc ).One group probably also reached china (tall ginger mummies of china) and some might have reached american continents (Viracocha story).Before that asiatic migration happened from Tibet/Nepal territories who became north and south american natives.

It does seem that asiatic,black and white races might have been existing longer than this planet and they came from elsewhere but that´s a long story and hard to prove.. But who is interested to learn more,dig in ! https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ipxu2eo2im4pzLoZGtk-nOQ7ExBZXS4X/view?pli=1

But the main thing that helped people to evolve and prosper was access to sea/rivers. Landlocked countries are still today largely poor and underdeveloped because of it .Main amount of goods always have traveled through water.
Mediterranean was a perfect location with access to all kinds of cultures for means of trade (and while doing that you might learn something new from them ).Thats why mediterranean cultures prospered ,like Egyptians,Greeks,Romans etc . Vikings also explored large territories and all that,thanks to water. Venicians once ruled almost half the known world and all that thanks to access to water.
Compare that to some central african tribe that even if they prospered they would need a huge army to go and explore the continent because they would constantly have to fight with another hostile tribes and they would need to carrie alot of stuff through tough environment.

And who says race is a social construct might need to dig deeper to the science of DNA...

[DNA]

Hi Bill

I would trade places with any of those folks you'd just mentioned.
Because they have a homogeneous society.

Right now I'm reminded of Charles Manson.
He of the MK Ultra CIA mind control.
He strangely enough predicted a race war.
Was he imbued with 2nd sight? A fully activated pineal gland behind that swastika tattoo? No of course not this has been the goal of the intelligence agency all along. And Manson was just repeating the lines instructed to him by the CIA.
Why???
Because I'm beginning to think diversity is not the asset we once thought it was.
It appears diversity was always a weakness viewed as something to be exploited by the enemies of the United States, the enemies within its own intelligence agencies.

Now we have millions of non-whites coming across the border being deputized into law enforcement and home land security as well as being trained to fight for the military.

I'm saying things are well past trying clumsily to point out an abstract discomfort while trying not to offend someone.

The fema camps with their tens of millions of plastic coffins are still there and now there is a police force more than willing to drag you there.

All for the crime of being white.

So what do we do?

[Mike]

Attacks on whites increasingYes, I absolutely understand and agree. I was talking about this whole problem 20 years ago to anyone who would listen, when the UK was being overrun by immigrants from Asia and Africa.

I've posted frequently on the The migration crisis on the US-Mexico border (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114419-The-migration-crisis-on-the-US-Mexico-border) thread. The US is being destroyed systematically and deliberately from within.

My point is really that to have a meaningful, productive, eye-opening discussion about all this, we have to be a little more precise with what we're trying to describe.

I've spent time in India, and all I met were wonderful people. The same in Africa. In some of my recent previous lives I spent 1000 years in Tibet. I wasn't white-skinned then. :)

The most spiritually gifted man I ever met, a close personal friend, was a Pakistani who was a Sufi Master. (When in his early 40s and in perfect health, he declared that his life's purpose was complete, threw a party for his friends, sat down in a chair, and left his body. For good. He just closed his eyes and purposefully died. I've never heard of any other instance like that.)

And the only person I know from the Middle East (a Moslem! Take note) is from Lebanon, speaks 6 languages, and is the webmaster and personal assistant for a Princess of one of the Royal Families in the UAE. (I met her as well, spent a lot of time with, and she too was a wonderful person, a committed Project Camelot supporter.)

One of Avalon's most gifted and longstanding members (whom I won't name here, but whom I've met personally several times) lives in the US but is Iranian, a senior Math Professor in one of America's most prestigious universities.

Mashika — possibly my favorite Avalon member of all time :heart2: — is half Russian Cossack and half Japanese.

We just have to be very careful with our loose generalizations.

Of course, some white-skinned people in America and Canada (and some in Europe) are most certainly being targeted, demonized, and discriminated against, and also as a (partially correct) generality are being blamed for a whole bunch of the world's ills.

But how should we best talk about this?

:grouphug:


As leader of Avalon, I can truly appreciate the difficulty of your position, Bill. I acknowledge that this is a deeply sensitive and triggering topic, and very, very tough to navigate.

To arrive at any kind of meaningful and useful space, we're all going to stumble and fall a few times on the way. It's inevitable. If we stumble too far we may just fall off the cliff; but if we manage to hang on and not do too much damage there might be some epiphany waiting for us.

I don't know how to approach it, honestly. Because it's going to upset some people no matter how delicate we are. So does that mean we should stop? Keep going? Rhetorical questions there! Because I don't know. Will leave that one up to you.

I watched a few of those Jared Taylor interviews (I'd be interested in knowing what you think of him) and found myself wincing and cringing here and there. It was uncomfortable. But I had to eventually concede that it was uncomfortable because he was right about quite a few things that, emotionally anyway, I wish he wasn't right about.

I was kind of wrestling with my social conditioning all the way thru. It was tough, and triggering, but ultimately a kind of growing experience for me. Maybe a thread like this one can serve a similar purpose. I dunno.

Just to be clear to all the readers: I'm no foam-finger waving 'white power' type weirdo or anything. I hate all that sh!t. I don't want to balkanize the US into white and black states. I don't believe one race should have authority over another, or oppress another, etc. I honestly never thought in a million years I'd be doing the aggrieved white man thing, but something very sinister is happening here...some deeply distorted anti-white sentiment infecting the west in particular, and it needs to be dissected and discussed, imo.

p.s. Does anyone know how Masha is doing??

[Matthew]

Bill said: "But Ernie, it's all a mess. It really is all about culture."

Ernie said: "It is not me who says white is a race, it is our enemies. I am just using their language."

It is so awesome you broke this subject open Ernie. And the subject domain is famously known as 'race'. Nuances like race vs culture don't often make it this far. Thinking about it now I guess the merging of race vs culture makes the payload of cultural damage possible because of the bogus wrapper of race. It's even mucked up in the Bible "Kingdom against kingdom, nation against nation" is much more likely to be "Kingdom against kingdom, ethnicity against ethnicity", although there are strong opinions against this translation - I am sold on it. Thinking more, cultural clashes gets the worst out of us as a species. And because the muddying of race and culture is so ancient I blame ill-meaning spiritual forces.

But I feel like the headline has to talk in terms of 'race' though or it doesn't headline the empirical issue. But if we're drilling down into nuances even the word 'culture' is too vague. The hot point is actually creed.

[lake]

I would like to know the answer to a question or two, I have held for a while .... if anyone knows?

It has been said by some rather 'racist' non white folk that "White's can been fu*ked out of existence!" (there is a video of this being stated, would need to find it again) .... and that would seem to be correct (white reproducing with non white creates non white offspring)!

So the question is:

"Have 'whites' in the past never actually lived in the same country, to any even small extent, with non whites because if they had then there would be no whites?"

Which then can lead to: "How long have the white race been here to still exist as white?"

[jaybee]

It has been said by some rather 'racist' non white folk that "White's can been fu*ked out of existence!" (there is a video of this being stated, would need to find it again) .... and that would seem to be correct (white reproducing with non white creates non white offspring)!



It's a fact that mixed race couples are heavily promoted in adverts on UK television...

Clearly... (white dominated) corporations and big business at the behest of the NWO Globalists now use the mini storylines in adverts to push a mixed race (transgender, transhuman) agenda - so the bolded above, although put crudely, is actually a 'thing' ....:shocked:

[Mike]

It has been said by some rather 'racist' non white folk that "White's can been fu*ked out of existence!" (there is a video of this being stated, would need to find it again) .... and that would seem to be correct (white reproducing with non white creates non white offspring)!



It's a fact that mixed race couples are heavily promoted in adverts on UK television...

Clearly... (white dominated) corporations and big business at the behest of the NWO Globalists now use the mini storylines in adverts to push a mixed race (transgender, transhuman) agenda - so the bolded above, although put crudely, is actually a 'thing' ....:shocked:


Yep for sure.

The war is largely against white, straight males. White, straight males in the west are generally Christians. Christians, for all their faults (and there are plenty), believe strongly that the greatest authority is God, and not the state. They aren't nearly as easily manipulated as everyone else. The woke Marxists are trying desperately (and pretty successfully) to set up the state as the ultimate authority, ergo the first and most powerful line of defense has to go (white, straight males). That's the very basic version.

Inclusivity/diversity is really just an attempt to politicize an environment. To make it more divided. To create fault lines to expose and exploit. That's all it is. It's destroying the west.

There will always be some tension between blacks and whites, but the conflict today isn't really between blacks and whites (but it's made to appear that way for obvious reasons - divide and conquer, and to conceal the true puppet masters). But...a significant population of blacks are succumbing to the game, and a significant amount of whites as well - radical liberal types mainly - who have allowed themselves to be tricked into participating in their own demise.

So what are the sane, awake and aware whites to do? Well, the first thing is to accept the reality that whites do represent a race, and to stop apologizing for it. Second is to accept that there is a shared rich culture there, with common interests (including self preservation), and a desire to live a certain way (representative democracy, rule of law, Christian values generally speaking, so forth).

Race becomes very uncomfortable for people because of it's biological basis. Culture is informed by environment and biology. We're all sort of terrified that any dialogue around that will devolve into some kinda Nazi eugenics rally. And I get that.

But denying that race exists, or that even if it does it's strictly cultural and not biological, is the same sort of argument made by the woke when they insist sex doesn't inform behavior.

We're talking about biological realities here. Who among us is going to deny, for example, that blacks have demonstrated themselves to be far superior athletes, generally speaking? They run faster, jump higher etc.

That's not a cultural phenomenon, it's a biological one. I couldn't hang out among blacks for the next few years, embrace the culture and all that, and then magically run a 4.2 forty yard dash.

But if blacks are lagging behind whites in certain areas, it's very taboo to suggest that perhaps whites are just better at x,y, or z, by dint of their particular biological makeup. So we have to play this make-believe game of oppression and so on, because we are all collectively unwilling to face the truth. Maybe whites are better accountants! LOL Or better telemarketers! Better plumbers! Who cares? Well, everyone it seems. It's like the man/woman thing - we don't seem to be collectively mature enough to appreciate each other for our unique, innate talents.

So, meanwhile, we just pretend they don't exist, because we don't want to hurt feelings. It's a terrible long-term strategy, and may be our undoing.

[Losus4]

Well said Mike!

Like it or not, every major Western city—if it hasn't already—will look like Mogadishu in ≤ 2 decades, this is not speculation, it is a mathematical certainty based on immigration numbers and birthrates among whites. White people are to become minorities in their own cities and at this point there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop that. Walking around on eggshells worrying about whether the terminology we use will cause offense is exactly the kind of mentality that has allowed this replacement to happen.

It is very easy to mistake weakness for being enlightened, liberals do it all the time. But evolution will not reward a species that does not defend itself—it will purge it from the gene pool. Take the example of Pippa Bacca, the Italian feminist who hitchhiked alone through the Middle-East to prove that Islam was a peaceful religion.

She was gangraped and murdered.

Her story is a perfect example of evolution culling weakness that believes itself enlightened.

As other's have said these are sensitive topics which takes a lot of tact to discuss without sounding like a redneck, but if it's the choice between offending those who haven't yet realized the existential crisis we're facing VS sheepishly walking around on eggshells, I would choice the former.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I believe the West is facing a five-pronged assault right now. One is against whiteness, the others are masculinity, femininity, heterosexuality, and Christianity.

This is a cultural thing, as Bill said -- it's a war that seems bent on eliminating the very foundations of western society. Look at just one of those prongs: the widening crack between male and female in general (white or otherwise). Radical feminism is responsible for that. First it sold women the lie that men are useless, that they do not need them, and that having children was a ball and chain -- they should stay single and concentrate on their career. Feminism was once about equality, it's now a supremacist movement. As a result, swathes of disgusted men are going their own way, that's what the MGTOW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way) movement is all about.

So what happens to a society of man-hating career women and men who want nothing to do with them? And let's not forget the remainder of this fractured society, being the totally screwed up next generation who will never reproduce because they've been brainwashed into identifying as gay/bi/trans and whatever else -- what happens? Birth rates drop off a cliff.

What we're looking at is depopulation [of the West] of the most wicked and insidious kind. Not through war, persecution, disease, or any of that, but by gaslighting -- by persuasion to commit mass-suicide.

[DNA]

Excellent post Mike
One of the best posts I've ever seen on Avalon. If I didn't already know how good of a writer you are I would be scouring the internet looking for the original author.
That's how damn good it is.

Reading through some of these posts I just wanted to add the strange use of the word minority.
I regularly see Asian Indian and Chinese folks on talk shows or their faces on Twitter feeds talking with glee about their hatred for white people all the while hiding behind some kind of minority status.
I'm always stunned with this being as white people globally speaking are a minority but apparently we are not allowed to be a majority in countries we have founded.

I remember ten or twelve years ago there was an "it's okay to be white" movement going on. I remember police foamed at the mouth and would take down signs posted physically on telephone poles and such this with a sheriff explaining this was hate speech.
I was always like WTF?
How is it NOT okay to say "it's okay to be white".

The attack is indeed against Whites and Christians.
Stand in solidarity with your White Christian brothers and sisters in the United States.
When they fall the US will truly be gone.

[Ernie Nemeth]

This was all so predictable, even decades ago. I can remember the free trade discussions of the 80s.

I predicted then that North America would experience a massive decline unprecedented in the modern era. It is obvious, remove the money and a region crumbles into obscurity - its people desperately clinging to a lifestyle that no longer exists, borrowing themselves into financial ruin, personally and publicly.
And that is precisely what happened/is happening.

The money is moving east, and the west is suffering for it. What money is left is stretched thin, with the bulk of that money earmarked for illegal immigrants, refugees, and DEI initiatives. Coupled with the attack on the white-skinned races the demise of the west is inevitable and has been for decades.

There is no turning back without a radical reordering of priorities. We are past the point where that can happen peacefully.
Unless there is a true awkening that swamps the 'woke' virtue-signalling appologists, our fates are sealed.

[lake]

Some good and excellent posts .... thank you for considerations to think about.

I don't consider this is about the movement of power to a different part of this realm .... that is not the root reason (as they are all the same beings).

'White' folk are being attacked.
But it is only the 'first' wave .... all others will 'fall' once whites are gone!

Regarding the TV and adverts .... It is 99% black men with white women .... I wonder how that makes black women feel?? Must be difficult as everything (MSM) is saying that black men should be with white women!

I will tell you now that I have not given my actual point of view .... but it is interesting to read the replies here.

Lets allow a celeb to state their opinion :

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Is he a raciest?

Well he can't be because he is not white!

The "It is OK to be White" .... was 2020 .... when the western world was all "Black Lives Matter" .... and all those black lives began to burn down their (and I repeat THEIR) neighborhoods!

https://i.postimg.cc/vZPsP6qm/white.jpg

But the MSM promoted the concept that these "Riots" where "Mostly Peaceful" and did so while being in areas which were on fire lol.


Question: "What is this thread actually for?"

Because most will not post in it and if they do it will only be a very limited version of what they actually think (the same as I am doing).

Another question: "What can you do about it?"

That is not a flippant question .... what can you do when the mass of white people seem not to care and wouldn't speak even if they did?
How can you remove (just from the UK forget about the rest of the western world) 2-3 million people who should not be here .... but are wanted to be here by the governments and corporations?
You can't do it and you cannot stop what is the continued destruction of the western world .... as the mass are too limited in self thought .... they just like the 'shiny things'.

https://i.postimg.cc/TYjKkCvJ/alien-code.png

It is an interesting story line .... I find myself rushing home in order not to miss the finale!

[DNA]

For me the crux of the matter is the violence.
No one wants to admit the real and present danger that is in stark contrast to what the media is reporting and lying about.

52711

Two things come off the top of my head here.
The first is location.
If you live in an area that is "diverse" and you are white...
My suggestion is to move to an area that is not so diverse.
My second suggestion is to live in an area that allows citizen canceal carry.
People tend less to act a fool when they know anyone and probably someone is carrying.

Taking yourself out of harms way and preparing yourself accordingly just in case.

[lake]

@DNA

For me it is not the statistics which show the violence which is the main question .... For me .... I wish to ask "Where are the cities?"

Before the 'bad' white people enslaved the other races of this realm .... and Africa being such a massive landmass and ALL humans coming from Africa .... one would think that in Africa there would have been hundreds of cities (with cathedral like buildings at the time of enslavement) rather than just the hidden 'Wakanda' .... so why are there no ruins of such cities?

When the 'bad' white folk went to Africa for the first time .... Did they destroy completely all the cities?

Problem is that we are not allowed to discuss the differences between the races .... for reasons maybe too difficult to address and maybe we find things which would compromise those who wish to continue in power!

[Kindred]

For me it is not the statistics which show the violence which is the main question .... For me .... I wish to ask "Where are the cities?"

Before the 'bad' white people enslaved the other races of this realm .... and Africa being such a massive landmass and ALL humans coming from Africa .... one would think that in Africa there would have been hundreds of cities (with cathedral like buildings at the time of enslavement) rather than just the hidden 'Wakanda' .... so why are there no ruins of such cities?

When the 'bad' white folk went to Africa for the first time .... Did they destroy completely all the cities?

Problem is that we are not allowed to discuss the differences between the races .... for reasons maybe too difficult to address and maybe we find things which would compromise those who wish to continue in power!


The human races did Not 'come out of Africa'.... ALL the human races now here on Earth Came From Somewhere Else.

Perhaps you missed it, but I made this point on the first page of this thread. Humanity was given this knowledge in 1990 thru Michel DesMarquet in his book Thiaoouba Prophecy - he was the 'ghost writer' for the Highly evolved beings that provided this information, which is available in the Avalon Library.

As has been pointed out by Bill and others, it's the cultural differences between races that seems to be the 'great divide'... something that, up until recently, had been largely erased here in the US, but is now being renewed via the media, social and mainstream, and further promoted by the elite and political class.. the classical 'divide and conquer strategy, and they are using every divisive means possible to achieve this end.

For whatever reason, neither the blacks in south Africa nor Australia moved beyond the subsistence stage, although the northern Africa tribes had been influenced by the Egyptians and created large cities. I personally feel that these 'primitive' tribes simply focused on more pastoral pursuits, rather than material/technological ones. This focus, in and of itself is not a bad thing, particularly when you look at the destruction of the natural world due to some of our 'modern' technology.

Point of fact, the Thiaooubans have Strongly condemned this material pursuit combined with little or No Spiritual development and tell us that we are headed for a catastrophe unless humanity changes it ways. One need only look at the state of our world to see these effects.

Fortunately, there has been a resurgence of Spiritual endeavors, but not nearly enough, IMO.

Perhaps humanity is deserving of a 'kick in the ass' to get on the Right Path...

LOVE ONE ANOTHER seems like a GOOD PLAN to start with.

In Unity Peace and LOVE

[Tigger]

Yes... we are All shades of 'tan'.... some darker than others, but all our bones are white, and our blood is red.


And our consciousness and capacity for love are unlimited. :heart:

[jaybee]

'White' folk are being attacked.
But it is only the 'first' wave .... all others will 'fall' once whites are gone!



I wonder if Europe, UK, America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand (and Russia if the Globalists manage to take it over..) have been chosen by the (medling) elite... to be the 'melting pot'.... turning out 'coffee coloured people by the score..' (see song below)

Is this the covert agenda that they are forcing on everyone whether they like it or not...?....

Just keeping it simple, for argument's sake and not including other countries of the world (of which there are many).....

The question quickly follows... that IF this is what the plan is for the above mentioned countries that are generally considered to be historically White... ('Caucasians' approx 10% of world pop.) and IF around 6 to 7 billion people are going to be got rid of ... what the hell have the Globalist Elite got in mind for - say - China and India ?

population 2024..

India - 1,441,719,852

China - 1,425,178,782

next on the list but much lower...

USA - 341,814,420

see this link (https://database.earth/population/by-country/2024) for more population data....

anyway - back to the Coffee Coloured People and the Melting Pot song that many here will remember from 1969...I certainly do - we happily sang along back in the day - :)

BLUE MINK - Melting Pot (RARE LIVE UK TV 1970) Ft Roger Cook & Madeline Bell(4:04)

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I've just had a little look to see more about this song, which seems like it could be a NWO blueprint for the future... and it actually became controversial at some point - because of the 'language' used - but also maybe it was a bit too close to the truth?? revealing the plan behind immigration policy and makes sense of, for example - the invasion at the open southern border of the US - and characters like Soros providing travel for migrants by boat across the English Channel into Britain -

From this Daily Mail article (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13032231/blue-mink-reunite-song-banned-complaint.html)


While Blue Mink's most famous track was originally penned as a plea for racial harmony, in recent years its taken on a wholly different meaning after being banned by Ofcom in 2019 for lyrics deemed 'offensive.'

Ofcom said references to 'curly Latin kinkies' and 'yellow Chinkies' were too extreme for modern audiences.

The media watchdog said 'Chinky' was an unacceptable anti-Chinese slur and was exacerbated by the use of the word 'yellow'.

Other words deemed unfit for the ears of easily offended modern listeners included 'Red Indian boy' and 'coffee-coloured people' because of the risk of hurt to minority groups.

The ruling means the hit cannot be played without providing contextual justification and is, consequently, banned by multiple radio stations.

:baby:

oh dear

:rolleyes:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is a huge (and has become a generally taboo) subject - and I'll stop there for now...

Just trying to figure out what's going on...

:thumbsup:

[lake]

The human races did Not 'come out of Africa'.... ALL the human races now here on Earth Came From Somewhere Else.

Perhaps you missed it, but I made this point on the first page of this thread. Humanity was given this knowledge in 1990 thru Michel DesMarquet in his book Thiaoouba Prophecy - he was the 'ghost writer' for the Highly evolved beings that provided this information, which is available in the Avalon Library.

....

In Unity Peace and LOVE

Thank you but I did not miss it .... I just don't consider it correct at all .... so I left it alone.

We are all allowed to believe whatever we wish and I did not wish to state against your belief!

For me .... it does not answer any question I have, but thank you for posting it :rose:

[shaberon]

Whites are Christians...


Seems to be a misunderstanding that keeps the hamster wheel rolling.

Europe was made Catholic by force and plunged into a Dark Age with one book that no one could read.

Catholicism is not Christianity.

More honestly, European whites were originally Druidic.

Hint: we are using a website named after a ruined center of Druidry in the British Isles.


The Romans eliminated them for state purposes, not intellectual reasons. Julius Caesar admired the Druids very highly. The Roman state also made the dreadful error of ceasing to protect the populace from the predatory financial class: and so you wind up with a material base for the incoming anti-intellectual dark wave. Since around the 600s, nothing has changed.


If something was to be restored or preserved, it would look more like:


The Race of Odin


and I would understand most of them have a different appearance and language from:


The Race of Zeus


and, until we develop these big ideas of Universal Race, it certainly seems to be that *all* older records speak of small local founders and their associated deities as races. That means, for example, Odin would be like a permanent representative in international relations. However it seems like the important thing in this discussion is:


European Catholics and Protestants


who have a history of exploiting other cultures by deception and manipulation, let alone violence. We would expect them to suddenly become honored, because, why?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

You absolutely could not make this up. The idea would be rejected on grounds of absurdity.

New York Post
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Google HATES WHITE PEOPLE, New Google Gemini AI REFUSES To Make Pictures Of White People
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[Bill Ryan]

You absolutely could not make this up. The idea would be rejected on grounds of absurdity.

New York Post
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Today's cover: ‘Absurdly woke’: Google’s AI chatbot spits out ‘diverse’ images of Founding Fathers, popes, Vikings https://trib.al/SpoYqri

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Google HATES WHITE PEOPLE, New Google Gemini AI REFUSES To Make Pictures Of White People
69vx8ozQv-sYes. It's not only absurd, but also kinda frightening. I couldn't agree more that there's a really huge problem here.

My criticism of Ernie on this thread (and those concerning Israel) is because of his sweeping xenophobia and apparent fear/hatred of 1.8 billion Muslims on Planet Earth, nearly 25% of all humans. Those very generalized, broad-brush positions are not helpful to anyone, whoever or wherever they are.

And as I suggested earlier, that makes him part of the problem, not the solution. But the problem, which is real, is significant, complex, deep-rooted, probably engineered or augmented, and VERY hard to summarize in just a few paragraphs.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I am not a xenophobe. I am also not the problem. But I am being honest and open. I don't mince my words.

What we are witnessing right now around the world is the reason why countries were inaugurated in the first place - to keep out undesirables, whether because of race, ideology, religion, or other defining feature of the human condition.

Humans created countries to keep 'others' out. Without borders, there are no countries.

The UN wants no borders, and countries are their enemy.


Migrant Crime is becoming the number one leading cause of the increase in crime around the world. Could this be another reason why countries were created in the first place?

Of course it is. And there is nothing wrong or xenophobic about bringing up these obvious points.


If it weren't for me and a few others this would not even be a topic at all. That is the engineered part of the problem. They get us to self-censor on tough topics. If there is no debate, there can be no lasting solution.

[lake]

Yes. It's not only absurd, but also kinda frightening. I couldn't agree more that there's a really huge problem here.

My criticism of Ernie on this thread (and those concerning Israel) is because of his sweeping xenophobia and apparent fear/hatred of 1.8 billion Muslims on Planet Earth, nearly 25% of all humans. Those very generalized, broad-brush positions are not helpful to anyone, whoever or wherever they are.

And as I suggested earlier, that makes him part of the problem, not the solution. But the problem, which is real, is significant, complex, deep-rooted, probably engineered or augmented, and VERY hard to summarize in just a few paragraphs.

I don't agree with Ernie on some considerations but in no way would I consider him xenophobic nor think that he has a "fear/hatred" of ALL muslims!

And that you Bill have stated that you only think this anti white promotion is "probably engineered or augmented" .... well I am rather shocked as it is plainly obvious that it is TOTALLY engineered!

I am rather stunned!

[Bill Ryan]

I don't agree with Ernie on some considerations but in no way would I consider him xenophobic nor think that he has a "fear/hatred" of ALL muslims!

I was incorrect to refer to Ernie as 'xenophobic'. That's my own inappropriate generalization.

Ernie is Islamophobic. That's what I should have written.

Below are some recent post extracts. The complete posts are longer, of course, but the links are there to be read in full context by anyone who chooses to. His comments bear some comparison with what regular, decent German citizens were starting to say and believe about the Jews in the 1930s.

That's why Ernie's comments, and beliefs (which of course are fully sincere) are a part of the developing problem.

~~~


I don't see Jews rioting in the streets. I don't see Jews blocking traffic on highways, harassing Christmas shoppers, setting up Satanic displays as Nativity Scenes. I don't see Jews brainwashing our youth into wearing scarfs the enemy wears. I don't see an entire group of Jews so fixated on the next life that they commit suicide with bombs strapped to their chests.

I am okay with Jews. For the most part they fit in society and are part of our culture.

How do you even do a comparison? Muslims stay separate. They do not conform to our way of life. They have their own schools, mosques, food, stores, and businesses. They believe that theirs is the final religion that will conquer all the rest. Does that sound like a group that wants to fit in?

A group of Muslims at work refuse to ever pass on the niceties we are all familiar with. The polite thing to do is to say good morning when you see a fellow worker. This group never does - looking right through us as if we weren't even there. A few times I have called them on it and they quickly acknowledge me - as though they might be found out to be racist. If you speak their language, even if you are not Muslim, they will recognize you. But never in English, never to Canadians.

It is rude and racist. By the way, this group is a plumbing business strictly for Muslims - which is against Canadian rights and privileges. It is against the law to hire based on race or religion or foreign language but they get away with it I don't know how.




This weekend I had to do some work for a friend out of town. On the way back in to Toronto we passed numerous overpasses with Hamas flag wavers blocking the traffic. I was stunned and blurted out how inappropriate such protests in Canada really are. The person we were travelling with is a sympathizer, being a recent immigrant from that region. I saw the signs from my buddy, the person did not say anything in response, but I shut up and they changed the subject.




Muslims are a harder nut to crack, much harder. Recently I found an inroad and I am learning about their beliefs and customs from an unlikely source - a displaced Punjabi who grew up as a Muslim in Pakistan. This one is true believer, not a radical. What I have so far learned is that it is the rabble who adopt the laws of Islam without thoughtful consideration that can become radicalized. Unlike Christians with their dogmatic belief structure, the Koran advocates no one as the ultimate authority but instead warns to keep authority within oneself. If the third eye is cultivated it will allow the true believer to recognize when the truth is spoken.

The radicals, like the Palestinians and Hamas and many others believe that Islam is the 'final religion'. Meaning that the followers of Islam will conquer the world and rid it of all unbelievers.

This radical group sees the opportunity in today's world to make allegiances with the Globalists and the Marxists to further their plans towards a one world Islamic state.

All the signs are there. The Palestinian sympathizers are rallying in our streets, disrupting our Christian ceremonies at this most holy time of the year - on purpose.

Churches are being burned to the ground at a prodigious rate. Catholics are persecuted in their home towns. Bethlehem cancelled its Nativity Scene. Christians in Nigeria are being slaughtered. All in the name of the radical Islamic Jihad - Intifada.




This entire charade is fixed, is planned.
It is the Islam, comminist, UN, globalist agenda. And it is right on track.


I am going to say it.
[...]
It is war we can't win.
We have lost the ideological high ground.
Welcome to the new normal and the dawning of Islam as the One World's religion.




I believe we are in great danger right now of loosing our way of life. Christianity guided the rise of the west. Yet now we see pro-Hamas and pro-Palestinian protests in our streets.

If we allow and condone these protests on our streets it will not be long before the militants resort to the same tactics that Hamas uses. "Convert or we burn down your cities while hiding behind your own brainwashed mobs of misguided but concerned citizens".


If anyone finds it a hassle to carefully read through long quotes (and if so, I would sympathize!), I can come back later to highlight some of his chosen words in red.


~~~


And that you Bill have stated that you only think this anti white promotion is "probably engineered or augmented" .... well I am rather shocked as it is plainly obvious that it is TOTALLY engineered!

I don't think that global anti-white sentiment is totally engineered. Much of it has been brought on itself by


European colonialism and exploitation in Africa, the Middle East and Asia, ever since the early 19th century or even before.
US hegemony all round the world since WWII, specifically targeting Islamic nations. (What did anyone think the results would be?)

This smoldering global resentment of white people, which is most definitely historically partially justified, is then amplified and exploited by all the neoliberal social engineering that we see all around us.

[Bill Ryan]

I posted this almost exactly a year ago on the Multipolar World Order (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120183-The-Multipolar-World-Order--yes-it-s-coming-&p=1544217&viewfull=1#post1544217) thread.

The cartoon is now 99 years old. And we wonder why 'white' people are hated and feared (still) in many 'non-white' countries. Friends, wake up! :heart:

Maybe we should have an entire new thread devoted to satirical cartoons about colonialism and its long-lasting effects.

If you search the net for images with the keywords "cartoons about colonialism", there are hundreds — many of them really very clever and extremely pointed, and some of them dating back to the very early 20th century or even before.

This is a very very deep-rooted issue.


https://t.me/EurasianNew/34883 (https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/21020)

EurasianNew/34883

[Mike]

Maybe we should have an entire new thread devoted to satirical cartoons about colonialism and its long-lasting effects.


Ok, but don't forget all the non-white colonists too!:)

Every great empire on earth colonized. It just so happens that we live in a time where the British Empire (white) represents the last and largest conquering force.

Before that it was the Mongols. This is an interesting list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires It's wikipedia, so perhaps not entirely accurate, but this shows all the earth's conquering powers dating back past the Roman Empire. A great number of these conquering forces were Asian or Arabic/Islamic, not white.

I think you're largely right about the anti-white sentiment currently and how it all evolved(Though I'm still confused as to why you're putting white in quotes:). Would you put black in quotes? Serious question!).

I frequently don't know what certain words mean anymore - mainly words ending in 'ist' or 'phobic' or 'phobia', - so I just looked up 'Islamophobia' to make sure I got it right. And this is what I got:

Islamophobia refers to the fear of and hostility toward Muslims and Islam that is driven by racism and that leads to exclusionary, discriminatory, and violent actions targeting Muslims and those perceived as Muslim.

The problem with that word imo is that the average person using it typically won't separate justified fear and hostility from unjustified fear and hostility. It all just goes in one basket.

If your country is being overrun with Muslims, fear and hostility are perfectly natural responses.

But that feeling is driven far less by racism and so forth than it is about wanting to preserve the native culture. Ernie sounds like he has some fear and perhaps hostility but it doesn't appear rooted in racism to me or an arbitrary desire to exclude, discriminate or cause violence.

He's laid out a pretty good case as to why multiculturalism does not work, and it makes perfect sense to me. Pluralism, on the other hand, can work, but not with a culture as diametrically opposed to western values as Islam is. There has to be a common rubric there.

Racial harmony can exist in small numbers but doesn't really scale. When I get into dialogue like this, a common response is something like, I have several Muslim (or black, or Asian, or whatever) friends, and we get along great! And I'm sure they do. I myself have friends of all creeds and colors. And I think all that is great by the way.

But as the numbers increase, the cultural differences become too burdensome. Those same white people making that case would feel very uncomfortable in an all Muslim school or household for instance. It just doesn't work. It has very little to do with racism or hatred and far more to do with a recognition of obvious cultural differences.

It's very uncomfortable to the utopian side most of us have that desires a kind of heartfelt unity among all, in all situations and environments. I feel that discomfort even as I write this, because that's how I'd like things to be too. But they're just not.

[ExomatrixTV]

Having (personal) slaves was a common theme throughout human history of ALL colors & creeds worldwide ... to assume it is only a "white thing" to do is so utterly stupid!


And all of it is wrong!

Who were on planet Earth that decided to make having slaves illegal >>> first ... officially?


I let you all chew on that one.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳


I Debunk Woke History Lesson About Colonialism:

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

A point worth making here is 'anti-white' sentiments and anti-white tropes are far more prevalent today than they were ten years ago. This goes beyond the legacy of colonialism and the racial antipathy it caused.

Someone, somewhere, today, is driving a wedge in the crack of the racial divide, to make it deliberately wider.

Authorities for instance, who discriminate against its own people in favour of an incoming foreign population. This engenders a certain frustration. When one is cancelled for expressing that frustration, or worse, gets vilified as some knuckle-dragging white nationalist, indignation sets in, and demoralisation. When breaking point is reached (we're at it now) a survival response is triggered, and the casualty is human values. 'Racially' seated thoughts appear that were never there before: people who were never racist, become racist. In fact, I have seen this in action in people I know very well, and work with every day. It's a disturbing thing to witness.

Whoever is behind this at the legislative level knows what they're doing. This is not by accident, it is being orchestrated. The immigration floodgates opened everywhere (in the west) all at once, for a reason. This is a social re-engineering event.

[Losus4]

Whoever is behind this at the legislative level knows what they're doing. This is not by accident, it is being orchestrated. The immigration floodgates opened everywhere (in the west) all at once, for a reason. This is a social re-engineering event.

Agreed. It should be obvious by now that there is a spiritual and psychological war being waged upon white people, for the purpose of breaking down any white group consciousness. The elites are working very hard at this in order that we do not oppose globalism and the mass immigration that comes with it.

But with respect to Bill, I'm sure the last he wants is for Avalon to start sounding like Stormfront or other nationalist website. Even the most well-worded discussions on these subjects can quickly ruin the reputation of a person or brand.

That being said, we have to be real. The awakening is way past "we all bleed red" or "we're just souls inhabiting a human spacesuit." These kinds of platitudes are not enough to negate the enormous cultural changes Western nations are now seeing.

[arwen]

I will just leave this here - 15 minutes of one's time to listen, and a nutshell outline of the kind of thinking that is being promoted by Western governments, schools, universities, libraries, the media, big tech, entertainment and big corporations.

Based on Critical Race Theory, and the thinking of, among others, Ibram X. Kendi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibram_X._Kendi) which asserts ALL white people, without exception, are born evil. There is no cure, and they should simply all be killed, babies too.

Pretty much the same thinking as Israel, which says all Palestinians are evil, without exception, and should simply all be killed, babies too.

I myself cannot believe that in the 21st century, this kind of thinking has reared its ugly head again.

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[DNA]

Piggy backing on what Mark is saying.

I was just listening to a stand up comedy piece by Jon Stewart and his joke which didn't feel like a joke stated blacks and Jews should get together and unite to get whitey.

I'm reminded of a line out of the Urantia Book. Think of the Urantia Book as a collection of channelings by a Edgar Cayce type.
In this instance a interviewer asks the higher being coming through the channel. Is mankind, kind of evil? Considering all of the racism going on?
This was asked back in the 1920s for reference.
The being came back through saying.
The human race should not be so hard on it self for what you perceive as racism.
Not so long ago if a human being ran into another human being that did not speak the same language or was of a unknown origin,,, they killed and ate that human.
Then mankind progressed from eating other to enslaving each other.
This was actually progress.
And now you are attempting to move away from slavery all together. This is a huge step.
So do not beat yourself up for perceived short comings. You've actually come a long way considering you used to murder and eat each other.

The Jon Stewart thing is a thing. If anyone is responsible for orchestrating this everyone hate white people thing... it's the Jews. Hollywood is a Jewish entity and it's ever present and is very clear in its anti white messaging. The banks and financial institutions pushing the woke narrative.... Jews.
Human Trafficking has long been a huge money source for the Rothschilds per Sue Arrigo and other insider whistle blowers.

It does appear there are some faiths or religions that say it is okay to treat non believers like animals. Islam and Judaism seem to fall into that category.

Let's not forget the Epstien operation was Israili financed and operated. At trial one of the young girls. A 16 year old American white girl said she complained to Ghislaine Maxwell that she hasn't eaten in three days to which Maxwell replied she didn't really care and neither did her cohorts being as they didn't even really view her as human and considered her to be just as the animals.


The Ottoman Empire continued slavery right into the 20th century with the caveat it is okay to make infidels their slaves. And those infidels were almost always white. Saudi Arabia and a hand full of other Islamic countries didn't stop slavery officially until 1963.

Both religious books of Islam and Jewish say it is okay to rape the women and children of non-believers.

At what point are non believers allowed to voice their dissatisfaction over all of this? All those Jewish tunells under New York? There is a long history of Jews abducting
children for ritual killing

https://www.bitchute.com/video/0mBh8n4cdjTY/

I understand feeling sorry for the Palestinians. I understand acknowledging what Israel is doing is wrong. It is.
But in my opinion the wrong is even deeper.
I'm of the opinion that moving the Muslim refugees into Europe was a Trojan horse move.
And now they are igniting the flames of hatred in the Muslim community even more through what is happening in Israel and Palestine. In hopes that those European Muslim refugees will take out their animosity on the Europeans.

The western world is the target.
White Christians are the support beam in the western world being targeted.

[Flash]

I will just leave this here - 15 minutes of one's time to listen, and a nutshell outline of the kind of thinking that is being promoted by Western governments, schools, universities, libraries, the media, big tech, entertainment and big corporations.

Based on Critical Race Theory, and the thinking of, among others, Ibram X. Kendi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibram_X._Kendi) which asserts ALL white people, without exception, are born evil. There is no cure, and they should simply all be killed, babies too.

Pretty much the same thinking as Israel, which says all Palestinians are evil, without exception, and should simply all be killed, babies too.

I myself cannot believe that in the 21st century, this kind of thinking has reared its ugly head again.

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KKK in reverse. Really?!!!

[jaybee]

I will just leave this here - 15 minutes of one's time to listen, and a nutshell outline of the kind of thinking that is being promoted by Western governments, schools, universities, libraries, the media, big tech, entertainment and big corporations.

Based on Critical Race Theory, and the thinking of, among others, Ibram X. Kendi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibram_X._Kendi) which asserts ALL white people, without exception, are born evil. There is no cure, and they should simply all be killed, babies too.

Pretty much the same thinking as Israel, which says all Palestinians are evil, without exception, and should simply all be killed, babies too.

I myself cannot believe that in the 21st century, this kind of thinking has reared its ugly head again.

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KKK in reverse. Really?!!!


Yes but Alex Jones' analysis goes deeper - saying that the black guy saying those things is basically a tool of the CIA and all that Critical Race Theory stuff is to set the scene for deep racial division because they (NWO) are going to try and kill all black people!! with a racial targeted bio weapon... !!

I nearly didn't watch the video because I knew it was going to make me annoyed (and anxious) - then I realized it was an InfoWars presentation so I watched it and I'm glad I did (thanks @ arwen for posting)... because I rate Alex's knowledge and analysis... (tomorrow's news today).... and what he says is shocking...

but

The NWO are deadly serious - DEADLY.... about drastic depopulation .... heaven only knows what a fly on the wall might hear at their top level meetings where they hatch their plans...

[arwen]

Yes but Alex Jones' analysis goes deeper - saying that the black guy saying those things is basically a tool of the CIA and all that Critical Race Theory stuff is to set the scene for deep racial division because they (NWO) are going to try and kill all black people!! with a racial targeted bio weapon... !!

I nearly didn't watch the video because I knew it was going to make me annoyed (and anxious) - then I realized it was an InfoWars presentation so I watched it and I'm glad I did (thanks @ arwen for posting)... because I rate Alex's knowledge and analysis... (tomorrow's news today).... and what he says is shocking...

but

The NWO are deadly serious - DEADLY.... about drastic depopulation .... heaven only knows what a fly on the wall might hear at their top level meetings where they hatch their plans...

Correct. Just to expand slightly - Alex also pointed the finger at Carnegie, Ford and those types of Foundations for funding this, as well as the CIA.

In South Africa, those Foundations were completely responsible for turning the approach of the Mandela-driven Reconciliation route, to race based hatred. Carnegie, Ford, Mellon, Gates Foundations all interfered in everything in South Africa, and basically run the country to this day.

With regard to biological weapons targeted at Blacks, there was extensive research and experimenting on this in the Apartheid years by one Wouter Basson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wouter_Basson).

Extract from above link:


Wouter Basson (born 6 July 1950) is a South African cardiologist and former head of the country's secret chemical and biological warfare project, Project Coast, during the apartheid era. Nicknamed "Dr. Death" by the press for his alleged actions in apartheid South Africa, Basson was acquitted in 2002 of 67 charges, after having been suspended from his military post with full pay in 1999.

South Africans were stunned when he was acquitted of the 67 charges because there was mountains of evidence - what they did not know at that time is that Basson was protected by the CIA because the research was actually done by Basson for them, paid by them.

This ugly rabbit hole goes very deep, and my response is not to get emotional or upset - because that is precisely what they want - rather to observe all the facts neutrally. It is hard to do, but is the best response to such unmitigated evil, in my humble opinion. We need to know what they have been doing in secret for decades, it does need to get flushed out, and that is happening now. While painful, this is a good thing in my once again humble opinion.

[shaberon]

Humans created countries to keep 'others' out. Without borders, there are no countries.


One could perhaps say that City-States were a mode of collective survivalism. If you were banished, you were basically dead.

The "country" was perhaps invented by Sargon, who took over neighboring city-states.

However, no one was exactly "kept out".

It is a continuous trail of trading, migrating, inter-breeding, and ghettoized exclaves in many cases.

One can find bedding material in South Africa at about 100,000 years old, which was traded over hundreds of miles.

I think we all want to make our own informed decisions--if I meet an African or a Jew who is "not like me", it is up to me to figure out if this person is really my friend. Unfortunately, the same decision is necessary with those who "look like me".

The ancient trade routes paint the picture that in general, humanity was much friendlier in ancient times, until around the year 600 when this was all broken and forgotten--such as in the 1,500s, Jesuits were astounded to find Roman items in India--they had no idea! They had already forgotten what some of the Romans had done, since they were given the bastardized, Aristotelian version.

The removal of modern borders is so you will lose your culture, like the Italians forgot what Rome was, or, Europeans generally have forgotten their Druidic heritage. This is dangerous, because, it is not your choice or any kind of local agreement, it is someone else's "superior" decision.

[ExomatrixTV]

Google’s 'Bud Light (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Bud%20Light) Moment’ Is HERE! Tech Giant’s AI Erasure of Whites From History Has Triggered an Explosive Awakening!

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[Ernie Nemeth]

I find that when real arguments will not suffice, most resort to name calling and labelling.

These topics are highly emotional for most.

I truly understand and take no offense. I wanted to test the depth of the conviction on this topic, I got my answer.


The more I think about it the more I see that we have been exposed to damaging material, with the intent of causing division even amongst the like-minded. This normally can't happen since the like-minded 'see' the world in a certain way, including allowing for debate.

I have concluded that we have been mind raped.
It has been going on for a long while. A long, long while even.
The breaking point, the point where the mind overloads and cannot take any more abuse, is different for all.

For some, it might have been 9/11. Others, it could have been the Iraq wars. Even earlier, some might have had their minds blown when the Berlin Wall came down, or the Soviet Union collapsed. Add in all the egregious assaults on the social order by activists organizing the #metoo movement, CRT, DEI, BLM, Antifa, the religious organizations funneling illegal aliens into the western nations by the millions, our leaders calling patriots domestic terrorists, the global warming scare mongering, the war on oil, the attack on Christians world wide, or the general vilification of white-skinned people.

These are all on-going assaults on our sensibilities. It takes emotional and psychological defensive tactics to keep the mind whole under the continued attack.

Then add on top the Covid Scam, the election steal, The Big Lie - the safest and most secure election brain-washing orchestrated by the legacy media, the open borders, the war in Ukraine, the police action in Israel, disease X, the 'mysterious' deaths of the young and our athletes, and more insults to our sanity are added daily to befuddle our minds and the burden of lies, deceit, and rhetoric become too much to bear.


For me it was the October 7 attack. That rape of my mind was devastating. I cannot forgive those that put those images in my mind.

And lo! It is the same ones who have always done the most atrocious acts against civilians! These groups have been at it since the seventies, high-jacking planes, blowing stuff up - killing mostly innocent civilians, never wanting to live in peace with their neighbors.


Now they are the good guys, and we whites are on the hot seat, since our skin is the same color as their tormentors.

[Bill Ryan]

For me it was the October 7 attack. That rape of my mind was devastating. I cannot forgive those that put those images in my mind.
Ernie, do you see now that the news reports about October 7 were exaggerated, emotionally amplified, and falsified (to a large extent), and that you were heavily influenced by those, maybe preying on some of your own previously held ideas?

The Palestinians, those in-the-news representatives of heathen non-white people whom you appear to fear and detest, are NOT the bad guys here.

I know this isn't the core topic of this thread, but it seems ludicrous now to think of Israel standing strong, valiantly, brave and alone against the uncivilized hordes of non-white people in the area.

The Israelis are the butchers now. Everything has changed. (I suspect they've had these intentions for many decades, but now they've come out of the closet and what they wish and intend is now plain for the world to see.)


And lo! It is the same ones who have always done the most atrocious acts against civilians! These groups have been at it since the seventies, high-jacking planes, blowing stuff up - killing mostly innocent civilians, never wanting to live in peace with their neighbors. The Americans have done far more than any other nation to kill civilians in foreign countries, destroy societies and cultures, never wanting or intending to live in peace with anyone at all.

If that's not evident to anyone reading this, it becomes a little hard to believe that any meaningful conversation can be had.

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[lake]

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And lo! It is the same ones who have always done the most atrocious acts against civilians! These groups have been at it since the seventies, high-jacking planes, blowing stuff up - killing mostly innocent civilians, never wanting to live in peace with their neighbors.


OK .... while I would like to disagree with you .... everything you have said, due to the current intentions and actions by corporations and western governments, I have to say that, in the greater part you are correct!

There is the one group who is mainly in control over the MIC and the already mentioned corporations and governments .... but they also control near all media!

I just didn't think that you would come straight out and blame the state of israel along with the jewish population of the world!

I concede to your points that in every case you posted .... all leads back to the one group as you say!

You will know them by their actions!

[Ernie Nemeth]

Those that orchestrate these atrocious acts are all of one ilk. On that we agree.

That the west is most to blame is also evident because there are more radicalized combatants on the other side. Radicalized because their way of life is not worth living as it is, I surmise.


Any group can be radicalized, unless the situation is diffused with honest and open dialogue.
Every person's feelings count. They may not be right, but that makes no difference to their feelings.
Unless and until their feelings are recognized and accepted, they cannot begin to rationalize, let alone alter, their emotional response to bring it in line with the unbiased facts. (this applies to everyone, no one is exempt)


There is far more to this gambit than just the eradication of a downtrodden group.
What's coming will upturn the last remaining vestiges of a way of life that has seemingly run its course.

White-skinned people are being replaced, and they are complicit in their own eradication, both by their apathy and their misplaced sense of justice.

That ilk that rules this world by terror and deceit, has unhitched their wagon from the western world, who brought them their wealth and seceded them their power in the first place.
Their eyes are turning to the east and larger untapped markets.
In order to make the transition that ilk must normalize a new skin tone to match the market they wish to infiltrate next.

The devastation that ilk leave in their wake is well documented around the world in isolated areas that were promised wealth and prosperity in exchange for 'modernization' and the exploitation of their natural resources.

One of the things they leave behind is a radicalized populace.
It's the natural response to upheaval for the sake of profit.


If we do not protect ourselves, the white race will become the next victim of this ilk.
Woe to the world if that comes to pass.
Or not...

[DNA]

Ernie I'm of the opinion that the Palestinian Hamas attack on Israel was actually an inside job by Israel to give them the appearance of being justly provoked.
At the very least I'm pretty sure Israeli intelligence knew what was coming.

But by and large you make some great points. :)

[shaberon]

White-skinned people are being replaced, and they are complicit in their own eradication, both by their apathy and their misplaced sense of justice.



On this, I can only speak as to the receiving end of the "integration and bussing" era.

So-called "race relations" in the States have always been bad. Lincoln was reluctant to liberate slaves because he thought blacks would not "integrate" into white society. A hundred years later, he was still pretty much correct about that.

When I was a little kind, integration hadn't affected much, and then as a teenager, I saw I was less interesting because black people were the "new, in" thing, and this still seems to be the case.

I was told my kind hogged all the resources, and became the only group known in history to voluntarily relinquish power and money and so forth to someone else because they "deserved" a share.

So, no, I never wound up with any special advantages because I was white, in fact everything appeared to be running backwards.

At this point, I tend to call the society a zombie farm. There isn't anything left that I like about it. There was a "slice of pie" for a while, I suppose, but not any more.

If I experience negative prosperity, it is comforting to know that someone else "deserves" it.

Obviously, nothing spectacular has been developed around here, nothing to brag about, just a Federal entity that is the biggest source of violence the world has ever seen.

Somewhere else, I would say, sure, the Welsh ought to focus on preserving their integrity in Wales, they have their own language and can decide whether to use English or who should be allowed on the territory. Nothing like that applies to me personally, or to anything near here.

[norman]

I sometimes think the reason the old white men who rule the world have turned completely against the rest of the white population to the extent of actively depopulating them is because they, somehow, believe they have ruined them beyond being viable for the future by the abuse and deviation from normal that they put them through with the industrial revolution.

In other words, they see them as a pile of used bent and broken crash test dummies out the back of an abandoned rusting factory building. Broken, in their minds might only be temporarily heightened lifestyle expectations.

This interview starts off talking about the shockingly biased against white people the Google AI is.

Mel K & Zach Vorhies | The Truth About Google: Seeing Beyond the Grand Illusion | 2-27-24 (https://podbay.fm/p/the-mel-k-show/e/1709088942)
58 minutes - Posted Feb 28, 2024


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[RatRodRob...RRR]

Let's not split hairs on this thread, okay? We all know what a 'white country' is. All of Europe. 45 countries.Well, Caucasian might be a better descriptor. Russians are 'white' (mostly), and so are Ukrainians and Belarusians. Are those countries in 'Europe'? (Discuss. :))

Yeah Bill, and we are told that "whites" only make up less than 10% of the worlds population, who decides this assessment, what/which countries were/are considered "white" ...?

[Delight]

I heard someone say today that if we could see our selves as a human species, color does not matter. I am caucasion. My family all arrived to the USA from Europe. In New Orleans, there was a group called The Creole. There race did not matter. My grandmother was Creole.

The issue of lineage is something I think about. In my experience, when people of different appearance have children, their kids look beautiful and sturdy. In a way, perhaps the limiting of procreation by "purity" of "race" is a disadvantage? People make a great deal of "purity" of blood line. I think this is the original psyop. It started the feudal pyramid.
Maybe something happened to keep humans form accessing AN INNER INTUITIVE GUIDE so we were fooled? Something deranged us. It was a species aimed take down?

I think that we humans have been the object of massive hatred as a species. It seems to me our overlords always play up race so we will fail to unite. Whoever runs it, the global empire ALWAYS has been in control. The latest iteration of the "empire" is the ugliest ever. It is poisonous and hateful. It is not human. The instigators of all the isms plays on the human mind and our lack of self connection.

We are RULED by a SYSTEM. It is the empire of death. The Shadow governemnets are all its minions. it operates as layers of separation compartmentalization and the pyramid of power. It is archaic and we BELIEVE it is "a reality" over which we stand helpless. The artificial heartless, soul less, nonintelligent beurocracy complexifies and crapifies everything and mandates POISON in service to the EVIL It must be destroyed.

IMO how we do that is stop serving it in any way. The only people who can do that will be those who KNOW that the human species is endowed by God with the capacity to contend with all possibilities and the freewill to choose. those who doubt are just unable to let themselves HAVE and own and USE this CHARGE from the Aether itself.

I love the vision I have of a human species UNBESET by EVIL. I see beauty shining through all and the light of metanoia where we change our minds. I feel a wave of LOVE overtaking everything. EVIL will not be able to bear its force.

[Delight]

I want to share this conversation.



Mar 11, 2024 The Dr. Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
Jordan Peterson sits down with clinical psychologist, author, and media mogul Dr. Phil McGraw. They discuss his new book, “We’ve Got Issues,” and from this delve into the three pillars of western society that are now under assault, as well as the 10 working principles he prescribes to defend them. They also discuss how to live with intention, the importance of personal identity removed from outward labels, the difference between questioning and deconstructing, how the establishment failed our children during the pandemic, and the obvious outbreak of social contagions plaguing the world today.

Phillip McGraw, PH.D. is the author of 10 New York Times bestsellers. For 21 seasons he hosted the award-winning talk show “Dr. Phil,” one of the most successful daytime programs in television history. His new book, “We’ve Got Issues – How You Can Stand Strong For America’s Soul and Sanity,” is available now. This April, he hosts “Dr. Phil Primetime,” on his own cable network, Merit Street Media, providing essential news and entertainment. McGraw resides in Dallas, Texas with his wife, Robin. They have two adult sons and four grandchildren.

This episode was recorded on March 1st, 2024



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[Mike]

A very thoughtful and sensible discussion on multiculturalism, with Konstantin Kisin of 'Triggernometry' and John Anderson, the former deputy prime minister of Australia. Just a little over 13 mins long:

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[shaberon]

I heard someone say today that if we could see our selves as a human species, color does not matter. I am caucasion. My family all arrived to the USA from Europe. In New Orleans, there was a group called The Creole. There race did not matter. My grandmother was Creole.


You're not white.

Here's why. I'm just forwarding what I know of White Supremacy. As soon as you think you know a fact like that enough to say it, you have exited the white race and mixed with mud. Same as me. I have a 1/64 Cherokee thanks to the Trail of Tears, which turns out to be fairly common, all you do is follow the trail and find the spots where people escaped and they obviously integrated into a new community somewhere.

If you don't know, you're still white, and if you find out, you have to get mad about it and try to hide it and never say anything.

That is American White Supremacy doctrine which I am sure is not the same as politically or in older countries. I don't think any politicians are White Supremacists in this sense.

Probably instead of "white people in charge" suddenly pulling a knife on "other white people", it is just Rich versus Poor.

It is easy to find numerous examples of white on white violence like this, and, white slavery is a simple enough concept because the word "slave" means a "Slav" in the following sense:


Frank = free

Slav = slave






The issue of lineage is something I think about. In my experience, when people of different appearance have children, their kids look beautiful and sturdy. In a way, perhaps the limiting of procreation by "purity" of "race" is a disadvantage? People make a great deal of "purity" of blood line. I think this is the original psyop. It started the feudal pyramid.



Depends on what you mean by a feudal system and what are you comparing it to.

With breeding, at least in plants, when this mixing happens it shows what is called "hybrid vigor" in the next generation. The difficulty is, only about 1/3 of their seeds turn out to be "true", so about 2/3 of what you would re-plant comes out too raggy. Economically, this is how the American farmer was sacked, by hybrid tomatoes. Because he doesn't have a viable regrowth capability, he becomes dependent on a business that just grows first-generation hybrids to sell for seeds. That is the root of the weird stuff that goes on in patent law and through the FDA and so on, derived from someone's ability to make/own the seed.


In India, even the Portuguese were called Franks, which they pronounced as "ferengi", although to them, it didn't mean a "free man", it meant "ugly", persons from any of those countries.

One of the Portuguese gifts was the word "caste", or "casta", which refers to the art of breeding plants and livestock as just described.

That explains how they looked at human beings, such as the Indians.

The Indian social science was to prevent inbreeding by assuring six or seven degrees of separation of the parents.

Also, that the physical bloodline was almost meaningless otherwise.


In my armchair view of genetics, I have run into the edge of what is considered "Anatomically Modern Human" (AMH). In other words, something fully distinguishable from the Neanderthals and other hominids. The AMH is supposed to have happened about 45,000 years ago. And, guess what, around this time, most of the Neanderthals are mixed with this AMH.

In the example of Haplogroup U, which is taken as a marker of AMH, specimens at around 45,000 years have been found in Romania, and then it can be traced across European areas. It can be found in six or more of its sub-clades. What is strange is that the original, unaltered Basal U has only been found one time, on Mal'ta Buret boy, which is much younger (about 25,000 years), and, much farther away (Siberia).


I don't know how to explain that other than it sounds completely backwards. It just means that, physically, some kind of pure bloodline remained intact much longer than would be expected.

After that pristine sample, Haplogroup U shows a drift around 10-12,000 years ago during the Ice Age from Siberia into those who became the Indians and Ethiopians.

Iranians are similar but noticeably younger, about 5-6,000 years ago.

Not sure how to explain the white race genetically, but, that is the distribution of its main genetic code.

In the relatively recent European royal dynasties, most of those marriages were, of course, fixed, for ulterior motives with no concern for the health of the child. Of course that is not strictly a European custom, but, was it ever the case for the unwashed masses and did they have any pedigree?


I refute that a death cult has always been in control, rather, I would argue that such a thing as a Good King is definable, and, there have, at times, been some. The job is primarily to protect the populace from the whims of such a death cult, and I would suggest overall we can find that it raises its head everywhere, and has been dealt with effectively, and ineffectively. Now we are at a point where it is almost impossible to remember this.

I would say it is in many scriptures, the Torah, Bible, Quran, Rg Veda, and probably the whole Akkadian cylinder collection.

The good parts of those books are definitely about this, regardless of whatever happened to them.

That's my best suggestion if anyone was to ever achieve some kind of inter-faith linking, on a humanistic level, I would agree with you.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Another cancellation. At this rate there will soon be nothing to debate but the historical account of amoeba society throughout the millennia.

There is no distinct color of skin, if one goes back far enough the shade changes. Unless one wants to believe the archaeologists on this, then the original color is black. Problem is, it is not at all clear how people that went north turned white, the people who went east turned brown, the people who went west turned red, and the people who went south turned yellow.

Our historical accounts are vague, temporally short, and rife with errors and conflicting data.

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We are the remnants of a long ago global society far surpassing our own modern era. We are an interstellar species hailing from many worlds. Somehow, this has all been forgotten. Yet that group continues and prospers despite our obliviousness.
Something has happened in the not too distant past that changed our relationship to/with these cosmic cousins.

As a direct consequence, we seem to be under some sort of terrestrial surveillance grid, using technology that to us is supernatural. Our lives have been directed by this tech, as well as our advancements in science and our understanding of this reality in general. Areas that are off limits to us are guarded by this tech and leaves us unaware of its influence. This tech is so powerful that it can alter or even suspend the 'laws of physics' temporarily to facilitate its efforts to corral us spiritually, culturally and intellectually.

It is impossible to reconcile disparate cultural understandings, when suffering from such a state of affairs, where we are unaware of a higher level of reality that encompasses our own and controls every aspect of our lives.

Here, nothing is as it seems.
It is a mirage, a ruse.

The truth is that what lives never dies and what is dead never lived.

[DNA]

Another cancellation. At this rate there will soon be nothing to debate but the historical account of amoeba society throughout the millennia.

There is no distinct color of skin, if one goes back far enough the shade changes. Unless one wants to believe the archaeologists on this, then the original color is black. Problem is, it is not at all clear how people that went north turned white, the people who went east turned brown, the people who went west turned red, and the people who went south turned yellow.

Our historical accounts are vague, temporally short, and rife with errors and conflicting data.

opinion
We are the remnants of a long ago global society far surpassing our own modern era. We are an interstellar species hailing from many worlds. Somehow, this has all been forgotten. Yet that group continues and prospers despite our obliviousness.
Something has happened in the not too distant past that changed our relationship to/with these cosmic cousins.

As a direct consequence, we seem to be under some sort of terrestrial surveillance grid, using technology that to us is supernatural. Our lives have been directed by this tech, as well as our advancements in science and our understanding of this reality in general. Areas that are off limits to us are guarded by this tech and leaves us unaware of its influence. This tech is so powerful that it can alter or even suspend the 'laws of physics' temporarily to facilitate its efforts to corral us spiritually, culturally and intellectually.

It is impossible to reconcile disparate cultural understandings, when suffering from such a state of affairs, where we are unaware of a higher level of reality that encompasses our own and controls every aspect of our lives.

Here, nothing is as it seems.
It is a mirage, a ruse.

The truth is that what lives never dies and what is dead never lived.



I enjoyed that. I agree wholeheartedly.
Billy Meier says as much.
Jason Jorjani says a lot on this and breaks the fourth wall so to speak by correlating current events with said society still holding the technological scepter so to speak and issuing commands to our leaders.

[Ratszinger]

On X I was blocked for suggesting to one anthropologist that all people on earth were once white and lived underground and in an entirely different light from the sun than now due to the fact it never actually rained but was just damp in the atmospheric watery air.
Then I was blocked by another for saying that all people on earth were dark and he came back to say that dark skin was the bodies reaction to the sun that all people were lighter skinned until they came up out of the earth and exposed themselves.

So it appears that even the so called experts cannot agree on how whiteness came to be. It appears by the 23 and me research that white skin, blue eyes, green eyes, red and blond hair and freckles all originated from what is today modern day Turkey. I find it interesting that this is also the home to a large underground living skill set housing upwards of 80,000 people at last count if you count all the underground survival bunkers. Could this be that place the people came up out of that many of their own tales speak of them doing? The Hopi speak of coming up out of the earth, and we have other native tribes saying similar both here in the USA and Canada. Am I to understand now these tales are in Europe too?

[Ernie Nemeth]

I don't like how it makes whiteness sound secondary. I personally refute any idea that whiteness is an adaptation to anything. Just like I would refute any other skin color being an adaptation. Melanin regulation is a way to tell one sub-species from another. I would even venture to add that the home worlds of the white-skinned races have varying degrees of light levels requiring the ability to regulate how much melanin is released.

No humans are from this world, the Earth. This is easily proven because as far as we know advancements are not marked by a reduction in sophistication. In this case, the human family had to loose two chromosomes in order to become human: 42 instead of 44 like the big apes. That sort of 'accidental' evolution, if it had indeed occurred, would be on par with the evolution of the first eyeball - almost impossible to believe and accept as fact.

[shaberon]

No humans are from this world, the Earth. This is easily proven because as far as we know advancements are not marked by a reduction in sophistication. In this case, the human family had to loose two chromosomes in order to become human: 42 instead of 44 like the big apes.


That's astounding.

You really believe this?

Skin color is not an adaption, even though I can see myself getting lighter and darker every year.

Because of comparing humans to apes, the conclusion is that people are not from earth.

I can understand if someone wants to put "maybe", or, "there is a question", but easy proofs for a New Set of Facts come across as you inhabit a delusion. It's certainly not helping me fill in the blanks about what my "race" supposedly is, leaving me unable to identify with it personally, or, identify it at all.

[Ernie Nemeth]

No humans are from this world, the Earth. This is easily proven because as far as we know advancements are not marked by a reduction in sophistication. In this case, the human family had to loose two chromosomes in order to become human: 42 instead of 44 like the big apes.


That's astounding.

You really believe this?

Skin color is not an adaption, even though I can see myself getting lighter and darker every year.

Because of comparing humans to apes, the conclusion is that people are not from earth.

I can understand if someone wants to put "maybe", or, "there is a question", but easy proofs for a New Set of Facts come across as you inhabit a delusion. It's certainly not helping me fill in the blanks about what my "race" supposedly is, leaving me unable to identify with it personally, or, identify it at all.


continuing from last post: yes, just an opinion, sorry

[Tammy]

Well it seems to me that something is going to happen to the humans here on earth. I’m trying to figure it out! U must know? Maybe or is it a secret?

[Michel Leclerc]

It is a secret Tammy. I do not know it either. I only know that it is a secret. What told me that it is a secret did not then tell me the secret. It is of the kind that does not tell secrets. By definition, as it were. Or by decision, which at its level amounts to the same.

[shaberon]

I don't have any secrets. I have other peoples' secrets. By definition, I cannot tell you them.

I only have a few clues, which are not really even mine, but just repeated versions of measurements made by others.

One is that water molecules ride around in space, encapsulated in what can become meteorites to us. Complex organic molecules are similar. That is a headstart towards life forms. The planet doesn't have to start from scratch. And, well, anywhere near this age range, we can measure a zircon crystal at about 4.2 billion years of age, the problem is that most organic material deteriorates relatively rapidly in this environment.

Correspondingly, there was limited research into ancient human genetics until around the 2000s, and so this knowledge base has grown exponentially in the past few years.

The easiest way to understand it is to think in terms of Ice Age Bottleneck. Previously, there were small numbers of people with limited genetic variety, and it is almost entirely since then that there are larger numbers, more intricate migrations, occupancy of different regions, and so forth. And so even though you find Acheulian tools at astounding ages, it seems to be that many of these communities perished, went extinct. Much like animals, modern humans are "survivors" from far more difficult times.

It turns out that there are two kinds of white races that caused large and notable migrations from around 10.000 B. C. E.:


Caucasus --> Armenia --> Semites --> Ethiopia

Siberia --> India --> Arabia --> Ethiopia



Let's take a moment to carefully assert that some Ethiopians or Bantu are of Siberian descent.

First of all, it comes in the same lineage as U4 which is Siberian:



Haplogroups U9 and U4 share two common mutations at the root of their phylogeny. It is interesting that, in Pakistan, U9 occurs frequently only among the so-called Makrani population. In this particular population, lineages specific to parts of Eastern Africa occur as frequently as 39%, which suggests that U9 lineages in Pakistan may have an African origin (Quintana-Murci et al. 2004). Regardless of which coast of the Arabian Sea may have been the origin of U9, its Ethiopian–southern Arabian–Indus Basin distribution hints that the subclade's diversification from U4 may have occurred in regions far away from the current area of the highest diversity and frequency of haplogroup U4—East Europe and western Siberia.


We have to be careful because if we follow the Makrani link, there is only a lacuna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddi) where information about U9 would be expected.


By definition, it is a mutation from U4 that took place somewhere around 5-8,000 B. C. E., except we don't know where that physically happened. If one asserts that U9 is "of Bantu origin", implicitly you are saying the Siberian gene flowed all the way there directly. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't, the point is that regardless of the new mutation, it originated from Siberia.

As said in a study that finds it rare in Saudis (https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-7-32):


Most probably, Ethiopia received its U9 lineages from the Arabian Peninsula that, in turn, received them from northern areas. The southern geographic distribution of U9 contrasts with the west-northern distribution U4, of its sister clade.


and it is also rare (https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/mt-dna-u9/about/background?srsltid=AfmBOoqbMr43EIYl6IOB2Rpd5Cx4nkIaaHaY29VFZlz2p-cotaR1tHQE) in:


Austria [6], England [6], Hungary [6]

The European clade U2e and the rare clade U9 could have reached the Arabian Peninsula from northern areas



So the English share ancestry with these people from less than twelve thousand years ago, possibly shortly before the advent of writing:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Siddi_community_%2816527139018%29.jpg/800px-Siddi_community_%2816527139018%29.jpg



The English are more closely related to Pakistani negroes than Indians are to Iranians.

Obviously a single piece of genetic information has little to do with a person's appearance. It does however give a reasonable impression of the physical movement and mixing of human beings. Ethiopia doesn't have a caste of U9 white Siberians, it somehow has received a northern contribution to its prior status.

On the historical record, around 700 B. C. E. there is mass movement from Africa to Pakistan, just like Semitic ancestry and its related language *enter* Ethiopia at about this same time.


I'm not sure what kind of race theory to craft out of this.

I would tend to conclude that Semites are Caucasians, or they are in fact Japhetic.

However, I still don't find cohesiveness based on my appearance or known heritage. I find much more disagreement apparently *within* that, which is why I have an "adoptive" culture that ignores appearance, location, etc., and can only be defined by mentality.

[Ratszinger]

The entire planet appears to be dark with the exception of one race, the "Caucasians" whose name speaks to their origins in the mountains named after them. There is a repeated link that goes around Facebook and X both about a body found in the early 1900s in the ice and this man is pictured here for the United Kingdom. Turns out that even though this body has been on ice in storage since found it contained viable DNA they were able to extract and they found his living relatives today just a short walk away from where he was found. His modern day relatives however, although the same haplogroup and DNA are all light skinned or white. So it begs the question what took place to cause this skin pigment loss between them and now to lead to this condition in his modern day relatives? Let's consider underground living in places like Derin Kuyu and others now known to have once housed 60 to 90,000 people just in one small area. Imagine how many dwellings have not even been found yet that are there. They've discovered well over 240 so far in Turkey.

This wasn't just a temporary living arrangement with churches and schools, and places for the animals. They made wine, no short time endeavor. No this has to be due to climate change above, probably severe cold and they sought a steady year round temp underground. It's commonly told to us that blue eyes and green eyes and blond and red hair as well as freckles all originated here in this same area.

That causes me to wonder if maybe the underground long term living and diet changes to the new environment they lived in had something to do with all those things showing up in the genes of men afterwards. Maybe whites got their lactose tolerance into old age because of those adaptations to a new way of getting the vitamins they used to get from the sun? Maybe the fact white people can absorb all the daily uptake of vitamins they need from the sun in 10 or so min. compared to dark skinned people that take hours to uptake the same amount? Could it all be related to the simple choice once made by our ancestors to live underground for a thousand or more years? How long would it take for a dark person that wen underground to lose pigment?

[Irminsül]

The "White Race" in the Thought of Julius Evola



Introduction

Julius Evola (1898–1974) was an Italian philosopher of the far-right, known for his radical traditionalism and his staunch opposition to egalitarian modernity. He has been described as a "fascist intellectual," a "radical traditionalist," and even as "the principal philosopher of the European neo-fascist movement." His ideas blend esoteric philosophy with anti-egalitarian political theories, leaving a significant mark on traditionalist and far-right circles to this day.
In Evola's thought, the concept of "race"—and more specifically, the "white race"—plays a central role, but in a very particular way. Unlike the biological racism dominant in Nazi ideology, Evola developed a spiritual and metaphysical theory of race that must be understood within his broader worldview. This exposition presents his context, his tripartite theory of race (body, soul, and spirit), his interpretation of the white race, his relation and contrast with biological racism (especially Nazism), and the influence of his ideas in later movements.

Philosophical and Political Context

Evola intellectually matured during the interwar period, aligning with the European Conservative Revolution and collaborating with Italian fascism. His worldview was marked by a deep aristocratic elitism and a belief in a perennial spiritual Tradition, opposed to modern egalitarianism. In works like Revolt Against the Modern World (1934), he proposed a cyclical history model, where civilizations decline when they lose their spiritual principles and invert the natural order of castes. He developed the so-called "law of caste regression," where lower castes (merchants, slaves) take power over the spiritually superior ones (warriors, priests). This hierarchical, spiritual worldview defined his racial theories.
Evola critiqued Nazi biological racism for lacking a spiritual dimension. He considered the German völkisch ideology to be too collectivist and materialistic, equating aristocracy with the masses. He sought to provide fascism with a metaphysical soul beyond modern materialism. While he collaborated with fascist racial publications like La Vita Italiana and La Difesa della Razza, he remained critical of purely biological definitions of race.

The Tripartite Theory of Race: Body, Soul, Spirit


In his major racial work, The Synthesis of the Doctrine of Race (1941, also titled The Race of the Spirit), Evola proposed a three-level theory of race:

Race of the body: This is the biological level—physical features, phenotype, and genetics. Evola acknowledged its importance but viewed it as the most superficial layer.
Race of the soul: Refers to psychological and cultural traits, temperaments, attitudes, values, and the collective "style" or personality of a people.

Race of the spirit: The highest and most essential level. This represents the spiritual orientation of a people—its connection to metaphysical, transcendent principles. Evola linked this to traditional initiatory and sacred worldviews.
True racial purity, in Evola's view, required harmony of these three aspects. But such harmony was rare and found primarily among elites. A person with white skin (race of the body) could still lack the soul and spirit of the true white-arian tradition.

The White Race in Evola's Framework


Evola associated the authentic white race with the ancient Indo-European or Aryan tradition. But for him, the term Aryan did not simply mean white in the modern sense—it referred to a spiritual caste, a type of being born to embody light, order, and transcendence. In Sanskrit, ārya refers to someone "twice-born," reborn through initiation.
Thus, the "white race" as Evola defined it was not merely a biological group. It was the spiritual lineage of the Aryan, the Hyperborean, the solar man who lived according to transcendent values. The true white race was a spiritual elite, not the modern European population in general.
Evola even claimed that traditional Aryan castes (e.g., in ancient India) were not pale white, but rather golden-skinned—symbolizing luminosity and spiritual radiance. The term white should be understood symbolically, not literally.
For Evola, the Indo-European aristocracies (e.g., Roman-Germanic nobility) once embodied the white race in all three dimensions. But this race had degenerated. Only a spiritual regeneration could restore its purity. Therefore, being "white" had no value unless accompanied by inner nobility, spiritual authority, and alignment with the primordial Tradition.
Interestingly, Evola allowed for the possibility that non-Europeans could embody Aryan spirit if they were aligned with traditional warrior values. He cited examples of Indian, Arab, or Asian volunteers in the SS as cases of non-white men who were spiritually Aryan. Thus, while racial hierarchy remained, it was based more on spiritual criteria than skin color.
Evola vs. Nazi Biological Racism
Evola sharply criticized Nazi racism for its materialist and collectivist character. He argued that the Nazis reduced the concept of Aryan to a negative definition—"not Jewish or colored"—without understanding its spiritual dimension. He called this a kind of naive zoology and rejected the genetic determinism behind concepts like "100% pure blood."
For Evola, a person's value was not in their genes but in their capacity to embody traditional principles. While he did not oppose biological segregation outright, he rejected the Nazi obsession with blood purity as reductive and plebeian. He insisted that racism should serve to elevate spiritual elites, not to biologically manage populations.
His antisemitism, accordingly, was not strictly ethnic, but spiritual-cultural. He opposed the "Semitic spirit"—which he associated with materialism, egalitarianism, and mercantile values—as the opposite of the Aryan warrior-solar ethos. Though this does not absolve him of racism, it reveals that his framework was esoteric rather than scientific.
He did collaborate with Nazi and Fascist circles during the 1930s and 40s, even meeting Heinrich Himmler and writing racial education materials. But he was never fully integrated into Nazi racial theory, precisely due to his mystical, non-materialist views.

Later Influence of Evola's Ideas


Evola's racial theories influenced post-WWII neo-fascist movements in Italy and beyond. He became a spiritual reference for far-right circles, including the Italian Social Movement (MSI) and radical youth groups. His critique of biological racism and emphasis on spiritual aristocracy appealed to right-wing intellectuals looking for a more "sophisticated" racial theory.
In France, the Nouvelle Droite (New Right) took inspiration from Evola, especially in their culturalist redefinition of identity and rejection of egalitarianism. Though they often distanced themselves from his occultism, they adopted his idea of preserving distinct ethnic and cultural identities based on spiritual heritage.
Evola also inspired esoteric fascist movements, including those influenced by Miguel Serrano and the so-called "esoteric Hitlerism." His vision of a Hyperborean white race and spiritual rebirth remains present in modern alt-right and identitarian discourses. Though marginalized in academia, his books continue to circulate in traditionalist and neo-fascist networks.

Conclusion

For Julius Evola, the white race was not a simple biological fact but a symbolic and spiritual reality. It represented a tradition of order, transcendence, and warrior nobility rooted in the Indo-European Aryan past. His theory of race emphasized inner quality over physical appearance and aligned race with soul and spirit, not just body.
This made his views distinct from Nazi biological racism, but still clearly hierarchical and exclusionary. He advocated for a spiritual elite to rule and warned against the mixing of traditions that would dilute the sacred essence of the white-Aryan heritage. In this way, Evola offered a metaphysical foundation for racial elitism—one that continues to influence certain radical circles today.
Understanding Evola’s ideas does not mean endorsing them. But analyzing his redefinition of the white race helps explain how racial hierarchies can persist through spiritualized and esoteric frameworks, even after the fall of overtly racist ideologies like Nazism.


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[9ideon]

Pull hairs from any Animal with fur (or feathers) and their skin is White (pinkish), including Apes etc.

White skin is the base colour of furred (and feathered) animals, therefore (if we believe in either genetic altering or "evolution) white skin is the base colour on Earth.

Brown and other skin types are either from natural "evolution", or from genetic altering of skin, but they all started out as white feckers, feel Racism is idiotic.