View Full Version : Bird flu 2024 H5N1 VACCINES - Trust the science!
pyrangello
4th April 2024, 18:29
So brought to you boys and girls by the same people from the circus, The trust the science people, wear a mask and by the way don't leave home either. The same people you would trust to have watch your kids, I think NOT. Here we go right in time for another election............................................................................................ ............................
'The CDC is taking bird flu VERY seriously': Director Mandy Cohen says agency is keeping 'very close eye' on situation and reveals plan to mass-produce H5N1 vaccines if virus causes pandemic
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13272137/cdc-bird-flu-monitoring.html
They still haven't cured the common cold or flu let alone another rushed so called vaccine , hell there still not done killing everyone from the Covid jabs and now a brand new one, let me guess there's already a patent for the bird flu new shot ???? Wanna bet and Bill Gates probably already has stock in this one too? Remember he said about the last jab "Best Investment he ever made". How much on that one?????????
East Sun
5th April 2024, 15:07
I used to have a line at the bottom of my posts that said,
"If you are not paranoid by now you must be crazy"
There are way too many things that are designed to do us damage in one way or another.
It's a full-time job avoiding them. And people who have ended up being "Offed" are usually
the unsung heroes.
I wish there was not an unseen war that most people are not aware of. And most of it is
because of the ultra greedy.
What will it take to make a world that is more logical--minded? At present it seems impossible.
Will we ever be saved by advanced Aliens that can do what we can't.
Bill Ryan
5th April 2024, 15:17
Will we ever be saved by advanced Aliens that can do what we can't.No, I don't think they will. Very much off-topic here, because H5N1 may be a real threat, but I very strongly suspect advanced ETs know what will happen (or is likely to happen), but will allow this infant civilization to fall off its metaphorical bicycle and badly injure itself so that it may just possibly have a chance to learn.
:focus:
ExomatrixTV
5th April 2024, 19:15
Vaccination Injuries On Record for Covid19 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113668-Vaccination-Injuries-On-Record-for-Covid19)
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mountain_jim
5th April 2024, 19:24
copying here - but also it's the globalists/Who control over all that 'they' are striving for with this, it appears.
Plus they did not get a high-enough kill/depopulation ratio last time.
https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1775951120847749536
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Trump Statement - They’re Trying to Bring Back Lockdowns - We Will Not Comply!
“The left wing lunatics are trying very hard to bring back Covid lockdowns and mandates with their sudden fear-mongering about the new variants that are coming.
Gee Whiz, you know what else is coming? An election. 😂
They want to restart the Covid hysteria so they can justify more lockdowns, more censorship, more illegal drop boxes, more mail-in ballots & trillions of dollars in payoffs to their political Allies heading into the 2024 election— that sound familiar?
These are bad & sick people we’re dealing with, but to every Covid tyrant who wants to take away our freedom, hear these words…
WE WILL NOT COMPLY!
So don’t even think about it.
We will not shut down our schools!
We will not accept your lockdowns!
We will not abide by your mask mandates!
We will not tolerate your vaccine mandates!
They’re trying to steal the 2024 election…. even if they try and bring back Covid… they will FAIL because we will not let it happen!
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aledum
6th April 2024, 00:09
Ha ha ha. Classic.
norman
6th April 2024, 01:48
Reposting
Dr Jane Ruby doesn't actually name them, quite legitimately, I think, stuff happens.
LOOK WHO IS PUSHING BIRD FLU FEAR PORN
Dr. Jane Ruby
Coffee Chat 4/5/24: Pay close attention to who jumps into the chorus to push the H5N1 fear porn...it's some of your anti covid favorites...have they flipped?
Dr. Jane Ruby is an American scientist, medical professional, and commentator. You can follow her Substack at https://substack.com/@drjaneruby
https://rumble.com/v4np5v0-look-who-is-pushing-bird-flu-fear-porn.html
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pyrangello
6th April 2024, 04:52
There was another article the same day I posted this one that said if you are eating any eggs then make sure your cooking them thru meaning not over easy or sunny side up. Another words don't eat any eggs partially raw and you will be ok bird flu or not.CDC has no credibility anymore either.
wondering
6th April 2024, 12:41
I almost have to laugh, not in a good way, to watch Tedros, post #5, regurgitate the same fear and "science based" warnings as at the beginning of covid....I just don't understand how he does it - either greed, fear or insanity has to underlie it....I would love to see him just break out in giggles and say "just kidding"....
norman
8th April 2024, 13:18
This headline smells like a crock to me, but it's very daring of them.
"scientists don't know how to stop it" . . . pffff
Bird flu is decimating seal colonies. Scientists don’t know how to stop it
March 22, 2024
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https://apnews.com/article/seals-bird-flu-deaths-oceans-80184a8793fbcc21fab01b1c90b0d71b
PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — Avian influenza is killing tens of thousands of seals and sea lions in different corners of the world, disrupting ecosystems and flummoxing scientists who don’t see a clear way to slow the devastating virus.
The worldwide bird flu outbreak that began in 2020 has led to the deaths of millions of domesticated birds and spread to wildlife all over the globe. This virus isn’t thought to be a major threat to humans, but its spread in farming operations and wild ecosystems has caused widespread economic turmoil and environmental disruptions.
Seals and sea lions, in places as far apart as Maine and Chile, appear to be especially vulnerable to the disease, scientists said. The virus has been detected in seals on the east and west coasts of the U.S., leading to deaths of more than 300 seals in New England and a handful more in Puget Sound in Washington. The situation is even more dire in South America, where more than 20,000 sea lions have died in Chile and Peru and thousands of elephant seals have died in Argentina.
The virus can be controlled in domesticated animals, but it can spread unchecked in wildlife and marine mammals such as South America’s seals that lacked prior exposure to it have suffered devastating consequences, said Marcela Uhart, director of the Latin America program at the Karen C. Drayer Wildlife Health Center at the University of California, Davis.
norman
8th April 2024, 13:25
Somebody open the windows around here . . .
Scientists investigate thousands of dead Antarctic penguins for bird flu
April 4, 2024
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Researchers wearing protective suits collect samples of wildlife, where the H5N1 bird flu virus was detected, at Chilean Antarctic Territory, Antarctica, in this undated handout photo obtained by Reuters on March 13, 2024
April 4 (Reuters) - Has bird flu already killed hundreds, if not thousands of penguins in Antarctica?
That's what researchers are seeking to find out after a scientific expedition last month found at least 532 dead Adelie penguins, with thousands more thought to have died, according to a statement from Federation University Australia.
While the researchers suspect the deadly H5N1 bird flu virus killed the penguins, the field tests were inconclusive, the university said. Samples are being shipped off to labs that the researchers hope will provide answers in coming months.
Scientists are concerned specifically that the often fatal H5N1 influenza could decimate threatened species of penguins and other animals on the remote southern continent.
The disease has spread more aggressively in wildlife than ever before since arriving in South America in 2022 and rapidly made its way to Antarctica, where the first case of H5N1 was confirmed in February.
"This has the potential to have a massive impact on wildlife that is already being impacted by things like climate change and other environmental stresses," said Meagan Dewar, a wildlife biologist with Federation University, who participated in the latest expedition.
Dewar told Reuters that the dead Adelie penguins were found frozen solid in the sub-zero temperatures and covered in snow on Heroina Island.
Dewar and the small team of researchers were not able to tally all of the carcasses on the large island, estimating that several thousand died in total at some time in the proceeding weeks or months.
A colony of roughly 280,000 Adelies breed on Heroina Island each year. Having finished breeding, the live penguins had already moved on by the time the expedition arrived, Dewar said.
norman
9th April 2024, 06:28
I don't post this stuff to scare you into Bird Flue panic, I do it to show how active this psyop' is right now. I expect other factors to emerge during the coming "incubation period".
CDC holds meeting on bird flu outbreak, advises health officials to ‘be prepared’ for more human cases
April 8, 2024
https://insiderpaper.com/cdc-holds-meeting-on-bird-flu-outbreak-advises-health-officials-to-be-prepared-for-more-human-cases/
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On Monday, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stated that the risk of bird flu to the general public is still minimal, Reuters reported. The CDC requested state public health officials to be ready to take action if needed.
CDC advises local health officials to plan ahead for bird flu risk, calls for testing and treatment for potentially impacted farm workers
The CDC called for plans to swiftly test and offer treatment to farm workers who may be affected if there are positive cases among cattle herds. Additionally, it urged state health officials to openly communicate any difficulties they encounter.
Health authorities in various states have been instructed to get ready for additional instances of bird flu affecting humans due to concerns about the virus spreading to people.
On Friday, the CDC officials issued a cautionary message, urging state officials to ensure they have current operational strategies in case more individuals working on farms are diagnosed with H5N1, Dailymail reported.
During the meeting, they highlighted that the risk to the general public remained relatively low. However, they stressed the importance of health authorities being prepared for the possibility of more cases emerging.
Outbreaks of bird flu among dairy cows in several states, coupled with at least one case detected in a farmworker in Texas, have sparked concerns that the virus could pose the next infectious threat to humans.
Understanding H5N1 transmission and clarifying risks and precautions from federal officials
The H5N1 influenza virus is highly pathogenic, indicating its capacity to cause severe illness and fatalities, as reported by the NY Times. However, federal officials clarified that although its transmission among cows was unforeseen, humans can only contract the virus through close contact with infected animals, not from each other.
“It’s really about folks who are in environments where they may be interacting with cattle that are infected with this virus,” said Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“The risk for most everyone else is very low,” he added. “Right now, our risk assessment hasn’t changed, but if it does change, we’re going be pretty quick and pretty transparent about that.”
For years, the CDC and other agencies in the United States and around the world have closely monitored the evolution of H5N1. Federal entities have accumulated vaccines and medications in preparation for a potential bird flu outbreak.
Rick Bright, the chief executive of Bright Global Health, a consulting company dedicated to enhancing responses to public health crises, stated, “We are more prepared for an influenza pandemic than likely any other outbreak that could happen, with any other pathogen.”
pyrangello
9th April 2024, 07:18
My buddy who is a retired surgeon told me long ago every 100 years something comes around and wipes out a bunch of people on a regular basis meaning nature takes care of itself weeding out the weak. Problem with that statement is there are now living organisms driving a car around with the last names such as Fauci , Gates, and Soros who take turns driving the car thru humanity at full speed with no limit on the pedal driving on a street named physcopath avenue.
I truly believe the consumption of eggs are a huge combatant against many flus thus let's kill the chickens and the eliminate the egg production to achieve our goals with them crazy drivers above.
CurEus
9th April 2024, 22:35
It may be time that the most knowledgeable healers among us come together and develop a "Project Avalon Protocol" ( PAP ?) to ward off these "dis-eases" wherever they originate from.
My knowledge is limited but I think we are all mostly aware that "optimized" Vit D levels are foundational and there are several means/ways to go about safely and rapidly dosing up ( With K2 Mk4 & Mk7) I believe it is called a " D " Hammer" from there the gut microbiome is upwards of 80% of our active immune system. Am not clear how best to go about bolstering that.
Many deficiencies can seriously "weaken" us. Selenium comes to mind especially for HIV like illnesses...and of course " Horse Paste"...and Mega dosing of Vit C. Sadly I'm not qualified to put it all together...when/why to take Iodine for eg or specific tinctures or extracts, concoctions.
LoL I cut myself last week and was staring at my collection and literally was pondering what to use!? Collidal silver, iodine, pepper, graprefuit seed, neem, oil of oregano...same with my lower respiratory infection, shuld I nebulize something?
I expect we're being hit with everything AND with the kitchen sink too, this will continue on unabated. What we breath, eat, drink, are aligned against health and then we have the electronic energetics AND whatever other nefarious things "they" can toss our way. Do we need to do a deep cleansing nad fasting and then ensure we are on a good program of preventives and meds, herbs and supplements and if so what would they be and how/when do we take them.
For eg some powerful parasite cleanses are best done according to lunar cycles which hold true for some medicinal herbs, plants mushrooms......
FAR too advanced for me to to offer guidance!
norman
10th April 2024, 00:27
Good list of reminders there but I heard someone, it may have been Lee Merritt but I listen to so much stuff, theorise that the vitamin C could get used by the nano tech for it's own purposes by converting it to something else.
Just one of those thoughts that can come up once you cut loose from the controlled narrative based around gain-of-function viruses and the theory and language of vaccination. As I see it, at this stage, they surely are messing around with high functioning somethings but it's most likely in the realm of synthetic biology if it can be called biology at all.
If the nano dust/nano tech can process naturally found substances in our bodies to make other substances that evolve other kinds of interactions we are dealing with a whole other realm of infestation. As we are ( or were ) our bodies are finely tuned platforms for our soul to inhabit. the nano technology might be engaging in a process ( that may only be experimental so far ) of changing the platform to better facilitate something other than our soul to inhabit.
Also, our assumptions about 'treatments' like Ivermectin may not be fully based in the truth of what's going on. Ivermectin quickly gained a reputation for preventing a certain set of symptoms we were calling covid but no one has really nailed the process by which it did that. There are some folky analogies but no science yet. Dr Ardis proposed Ivermectin achieved it's results by the same method nicotine achieves the same result, by occupying the same receptors that whatever substance the covid and injection substance was targeting and probably not by acting as a parasite killer.
The systematic effort to remove nicotine access and Ivermectin access is plain to see. we don't see such effort to remove access to, e.g. Vitamin C.
With there so obviously being such huge missing chunks of the puzzle we have to keep our minds and thinking wide open and ready to spin around and see things totally differently at a moment's notice. So called established science is not reliably our friend any longer. It's been hijacked for so long it's more like a Punch and Judy show for geeks while the pick pockets or saboteurs move around in the crowd.
norman
10th April 2024, 05:05
This video matches 5G distribution with "Covid distribution" but keep an eye on the possibly coming H5N1 'distribution'.
https://t.me/FreedomDoc1/10352
FreedomDoc1/10352
https://t.me/DMGctrl98/38415
DMGctrl98/38415
norman
16th April 2024, 18:54
New measures to help protect poultry industry from bird flu
Under the changes announced there will be new requirements for all bird keepers - regardless of the size of their flock - to officially register their birds. Currently only those who keep 50 or more poultry must do so, limiting the effectiveness of our national disease control measures.
In England and Wales keepers are encouraged to register their birds ahead of the legal deadline on 1 October 2024.
In Scotland, keepers should register from 1 September 2024 when there will be a new Scottish Kept Bird Register in place.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-measures-to-help-protect-poultry-industry-from-bird-flu
https://t.me/rightonradio/22102
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pyrangello
17th April 2024, 15:59
EXCLUSIVEFury as it's revealed US government is creating deadly BIRD FLU viruses in a Chinese army lab as part of $1m collaboration - and YOU are paying for it
Lawmakers are demanding answers after it was revealed the US is sending taxpayer dollars to a Chinese army lab to make bird flu viruses more dangerous to people.
Eighteen members of Congress are demanding answers from the Department of Agriculture (USDA) about the project, which was first revealed by DailyMail.com.
It is part of a $1million collaboration between the USDA and the CCP-run Chinese Academy of Sciences - the institution that oversees the Wuhan lab at the center of the Covid lab-leak theory.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13314917/Lab-leak-bird-flu-China-army-USDA.html
norman
18th April 2024, 20:12
This is a new wild card that may need it's own thread ( if it's based in real virology ) but for now I'm treating it as a parallel psyop'. Psyop' in the sense that the objective is the big reaction they are itching to launch.
Two hunters may have become first Americans to die from a ‘zombie deer’ disease
Brendan Taylor - April 18, 2024
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New research raises concerns over Zombie Deer Disease transmission to humans
Scientists have been saying for a while that this sickness, called chronic wasting disease (CWD), is very deadly and can make deer act strangely, like being confused, drooling, and not scared of people. They’ve warned that it could spread from animals to humans. Now, a recent study suggests that it might have happened already, with two hunters dying in 2022 after eating meat from infected deer.
A 72-year-old man experienced sudden confusion, aggression, and seizures before his health rapidly declined, leading to his death within a month. Doctors later determined that he had Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD), a brain disorder similar to Mad Cow Disease. Another person, a friend of the hunter, also died from CJD. But there aren’t many details available about their condition in the recent research published in the journal Neurology.
The researchers involved in the study are from Texas, but specific information about where the deaths occurred hasn’t been disclosed. DailyMail.com has reached out to the researchers for further comment.
Researchers suspect that because both hunters had a history of consuming meat from the same infected herd, they might have contracted CWD themselves. “Although causation remains unproven, this cluster emphasizes the need for further investigation into the potential risks of consuming CWD-infected deer and its implications for public health,” the authors wrote.
Understanding the spread and impact of Chronic Wasting Disease
CJD is caused by misshapen proteins called prions, which don’t fold correctly. Once infected, these abnormal prions spread throughout the central nervous system, leaving deposits in the brain and other organs. There are currently no treatments or vaccines available for CWD, and the illness is fatal in all cases.
While the exact way the disease spreads isn’t entirely understood, it’s believed that it passes from one animal to another through contaminated forage or water, often tainted by infected feces. Direct contact, including exposure to saliva, blood, urine, and even antler velvet during shedding season, may also contribute to transmitting the pathogen.
On farms, any deer that dies must be tested for CWD to prevent further spread. Since the disease is highly contagious, if one animal tests positive, the entire herd is considered infected.
https://insiderpaper.com/two-hunters-may-have-become-first-americans-to-die-from-a-zombie-deer-disease/
norman
19th April 2024, 21:27
Oh here it comes. Trash the milk market as well, that's another group of farmers to take out.
H5N1 strain of bird flu found in milk: WHO (https://insiderpaper.com/h5n1-strain-of-bird-flu-found-in-milk-who/)
AFP - April 19, 2024
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The H5N1 bird flu virus strain has been detected in very high concentrations in raw milk from infected animals, the WHO said Friday, though how long the virus can survive in milk is unknown.
Avian influenza A(H5N1) first emerged in 1996 but since 2020, the number of outbreaks in birds has grown exponentially, alongside an increase in the number of infected mammals.
The strain has led to the deaths of tens of millions of poultry, with wild birds and land and marine mammals also infected.
Cows and goats joined the list last month — a surprising development for experts because they were not thought to be susceptible to this type of influenza.
US authorities earlier this month said a person working on a dairy farm in Texas was recovering from bird flu after being exposed to cattle.
“The case in Texas is the first case of a human infected by avian influenza by a cow,” said Wenqing Zhang, head of the global influenza programme at the World Health Organization.
“Bird-to-cow, cow-to-cow and cow-to-bird transmission have also been registered during these current outbreaks, which suggest that the virus may have found other routes of transition than we previously understood,” she told a media briefing in Geneva.
It was only the second case of a human testing positive for bird flu in the United States, and came after the virus sickened herds that were apparently exposed to wild birds.
“Now we see multiple herds of cows affected in an increasing number of US states, which shows a further step of the virus spillover to mammals,” Zhang said.
“The virus has also been detected in milk from infected animals.”
Zhang said there was a “very high virus concentration in raw milk”, but experts were still investigating exactly how long the virus is able to survive in milk.
The Texas health department has said the cattle infections do not present a concern for the commercial milk supply, as dairies are required to destroy milk from sick cows. Pasteurisation also kills the virus.
“It is important for people to ensure safe food practices, including consuming only pasteurised milk and milk products,” said Zhang.
From 2003 to April 1 this year, the WHO said it had recorded 463 deaths from 889 human cases across 23 countries, putting the case fatality rate at 52 percent.
Zhang noted that the human cases recorded in Europe and the United States in the past few years — since the virus surged — have been mild cases.
So far, there is no evidence that A(H5N1) is spreading between humans.
And Zhang stressed that the A(H5N1) viruses identified in cows and in the human case in Texas showed no increased adaptation to mammals.
As for potential vaccines, if required, Zhang said there were some in the pipeline.
“Having candidate vaccine viruses ready allows us to be prepared to quickly produce vaccines for humans, if this becomes necessary,” she said.
“For this particular H5N1 virus detected in dairy cows, there are a couple of candidate vaccine viruses available.”
In the case of a pandemic, there are close to 20 influenza vaccines licensed for pandemic use and they could be tailored with the specific virus strain in circulation, she said.
norman
24th April 2024, 22:28
WHO calls for global detection networks for bird flu virus
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2024-04-global-networks-bird-flu-virus.html
The World Health Organization (WHO) called Wednesday for a strengthening of global detection networks for the H5N1 bird flu virus which infected a large number of animal species
Earlier this month, the H5N1 virus was detected in very high concentrations in raw, or unpasteurised, milk from infected cows—a surprising development for experts because they were not thought to be susceptible to this type of influenza.
While the surveillance of birds and poultry is already very developed, "what we really need globally is strong surveillance in different animal species," Maria Van Kerkhove, who leads pandemic prevention and preparedness at the WHO, said during a press conference in Geneva.
The increased surveillance must be extended to milk and dairy products to ensure "that people are protected", Van Kerkhove stressed.
She noted that pasteurization, which involves heating milk to kill microbes, is recommended and safe.
"I don't think detection in dairy cattle fundamentally changes our risk assessment. But this is concerning," Van Kerkhove added.
There is no evidence of human-to-human transmission at present but health officials fear that if the virus spreads widely it could mutate into a form that could pass between humans.
"Every opportunity this virus has to continue to circulate, to continue to mix with animal species... it has the potential to cause an epidemic and outbreak and potentially become a virus that has that pandemic potential," she said.
From 2003 to April 1 this year, the WHO said it had recorded 463 deaths from 889 human cases across 23 countries, putting the case fatality rate at 52 percent.
But since 2021, there have only been 28 cases of human infection, Van Kerkhove said.
Avian influenza A(H5N1) first emerged in 1996, but since 2020 the number of outbreaks in birds has grown exponentially, alongside an increase in the number of infected mammals.
The strain has led to the deaths of tens of millions of poultry, with wild birds and land and marine mammals also infected.
US authorities earlier this month said a person working on a dairy farm in Texas was recovering from bird flu after being exposed to cattle.
It was only the second case of a human testing positive for bird flu in the United States and came after the virus sickened herds that were exposed to wild birds.
palehorse
25th April 2024, 03:39
I almost have to laugh, not in a good way, to watch Tedros, post #5, regurgitate the same fear and "science based" warnings as at the beginning of covid....I just don't understand how he does it - either greed, fear or insanity has to underlie it....I would love to see him just break out in giggles and say "just kidding"....
these clowns, it is a combination of greed, fear and insanity and perhaps a few more things. some of them are cannibals.
Bill Ryan
4th May 2024, 12:32
Here's Chris Martenson on all this. I've not watched the entire video yet, but it may be very useful. His excellent early work on covid (and ivermectin, etc) in 2020-21 was important, and (in my personal opinion) this new video may be more relevant to most readers here than his increasing number of financial podcasts and interviews. He explains much of the established connected science, which he's extremely good at.
My provisional summary of what he says is that some strains of H5N1 are definitely more serious than others, and that it could be a real thing to be concerned about, but that what the media (and big pharma and the governments) may try to make us believe could be more concerning still.
How big of a threat is H5N1?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_EJUM7hAkk
happyuk
4th May 2024, 23:28
I think there will be another 'pandemic', but it won't actually amount to much.
I also think there will be attempts to scare people into taking "vaccines" again, but it really won't work this time.
Bill Ryan
5th May 2024, 16:05
Here's Chris Martenson on all this. I've not watched the entire video yet, but it may be very useful. His excellent early work on covid (and ivermectin, etc) in 2020-21 was important, and (in my personal opinion) this new video may be more relevant to most readers here than his increasing number of financial podcasts and interviews. He explains much of the established connected science, which he's extremely good at.
My provisional summary of what he says is that some strains of H5N1 are definitely more serious than others, and that it could be a real thing to be concerned about, but that what the media (and big pharma and the governments) may try to make us believe could be more concerning still.
How big of a threat is H5N1?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_EJUM7hAkkI've now watched the whole video (recommended; it's very good, just like his covid videos from 2020), and his final conclusions are:
At the moment there's almost zero perceptible danger to human health. This thing does not jump from animals to humans.
BUT
Stay vigilant. They've been messing with this in biolabs for several years now.
The main immediate impact may be in (guess what!) increased government regulation, especially on small farms and even people keeping a few chickens in their back yardss.
AND
Beef (and maybe dairy) prices may all start to soar pretty soon.
Sue (Ayt)
5th May 2024, 18:58
I noticed Chris Martenenson's video never mentioned the Baxter scandal back during the 2008/2009 initial hype re H5N1.
Baxter: Vax products contained bird flu virus
By Calisha MyersMar 11, 2009 2:28pm
Deerfield, IL-based Baxter International has confirmed that vaccine shipments sent to subcontractors in Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany were contaminated with live H5N1 avian flu viruses. The contaminated product, which Baxter calls "experimental virus material," was a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and H5N1 viruses produced at the company's research facility in Orth-Donau. The problem was discovered when ferrets inoculated with the experimental mix died. Baxter was notified on February 6, but has kept quiet about the details surrounding the mix-up, the Canadian Press reports.
"At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present," medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said. "But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau."
According to the Sun, Christopher Bona, said in an email that the release of the product was a result of a combination of "just the process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure" and the company has taken steps to make sure it doesn't happen again. The Canadian Press reports that Bona has said that the contaminated product was not a vaccine and was developed for testing in animals only. Austrian authorities have audited operations at the facility and are satisfied with the corrective actions taken. Baxter has also worked with the subcontractors to help them destroy the contaminated products and clean up their facilities. Staff exposed to the products were offered Tamiflu and assessed by infectious disease doctors, the company tells the Canadian Press.
While H5N1 doesn't easily infect humans, the H3N2 vaccine can. As the Sun points out, someone infected with both strains could serve as an incubator for reassortment, producing a hybrid virus able to transmit easily among people. But according to Andraghetti, there is no evidence reassortment occurred. "And we have no evidence of any increased transmissibility of the viruses that were involved in the experiment with the ferrets in the Czech Republic," she added.
https://www.fiercepharma.com/vaccines/baxter-vax-products-contained-bird-flu-virus
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I was flabbergasted at the time when they admitted this. Immediately when covid was first rumored, I thought "here they go" with covid instead of the H5N1 that I had expected.
Bill's interview (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2201-Bill-Ryan-interviews-Jane-Burgermeister--Feb-2010--a-Project-Avalon-video&p=19715&viewfull=1#post19715) with Jane Burgermeister was even about this back in 2010.
How quickly we forget.
norman
8th May 2024, 02:04
In my own mind, just the fact this is in Texas makes it suspicious.
The story is actually out of UK, The MIRROR.
Farm worker 'bleeding in eyeballs' after catching bird flu in first case of transmission
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New images show a Texan dairy farmer after he was the first case to catch bird flu from a mammal - in this case a cow - as scientists warn that this is a "milestone" of "enormous concern"
The first image of a Texas dairy farmer who caught bird flu from a cow - with his eyeballs seen bleeding.
Thankfully, the man had "very mild" symptoms after contracting HSN1 virus, but the stark image shows how the virus caused bleeding on the surface of his eyeballs. This is because the blood vessels in his eyes popped.
Experts at the CDC say that they think he caught the virus from an infected cow in March. In an official case report, published on Friday, the CDC said that they found "strong evidence" through genetic data that pointed them to this conclusion.
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article32734352.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/1_A-dairy-worker-in-Texas-developed-pinkeye-when-he-got-bird-flu.jpg
His eyes were bleeding on the surface due to the virus
This revelation shows the first sign of HSN1 virus spreading from mammals to humans. The World Health Organisation said that this is a "milestone" that is of "enormous concern." The images of the patient, plus further details about his case, were published in a report in the New England Journal of Medicine.
According to the medical experts, the patient had a subconjunctival haemorrhage, or bleeding just beneath the conjunctiva, or clear surface covering the white part of the eye. He also had a watery liquid discharged from his right eye. The dairy farmer is now the second person to be diagnosed with bird flu in the USA, and perhaps the first to have caught it from a mammal - in this case, a cow.
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article32734357.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/0_Milking-cows-eating-in-modern-farm-cowshed.jpg
Experts at the CDC say that they think he caught the virus from an infected cow in March.
So far, nearly 900 people in 23 countries have been infected with the H5N1 strain of avian flu over the last 20 years. However, they were all linked to wild or kept birds.
The dairy farmer's case comes as experts warn that they are hearing of other farmers falling ill, but not getting tested for HSN1 virus. The Texas patient came to doctors with the infection in late March, with scientists saying his vital signs — such as breathing — were normal. He also had no signs of fever, changes in breathing or vision during the infection.
After being treated with anti-virals, the patient reported no symptoms except for some "discomfort in both eyes." The report added: "Over the subsequent days, the worker reported resolution of conjunctivitis without respiratory symptoms and household contacts remained well."
CDC Director Dr Mandy Cohen said that the patient's condition was "very mild." She told NPR : "The person had very mild symptoms. They're recovering well. But we want to make sure, again, that we are testing folks who may have been in contact."
norman
9th May 2024, 17:06
'Watch The Water', all over again.
Looking 4 Healing Radio - Farmworker has bird flu in his eyes but not his lungs, Dr. Ardis explains why (https://podbay.fm/p/looking-4-healing-radio/e/1715091162)
58 minutes Posted May 7, 2024
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Looking 4 Healing Radio with Dr. Bryan Ardis – They are talking about a bird flu pandemic in the mainstream media right now. In these reports, you learn that a bird must’ve coughed on a cow, and that cow must’ve coughed or sneezed on these farmers to make them get the flu from these birds. Some very important information in this case in Texas: number one, this guy did not have any bird flu in his lungs; number two, the bird flu only shows up in...
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article32734352.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/1_A-dairy-worker-in-Texas-developed-pinkeye-when-he-got-bird-flu.jpg
norman
13th May 2024, 14:57
https://t.me/FreedomDoc1/10681
FreedomDoc1/10681
truthandfreedom247369
14th May 2024, 03:56
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Vaccination Injuries On Record for Covid19 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113668-Vaccination-Injuries-On-Record-for-Covid19)
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cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
Yeah they were involved with it and many other "viruses" also the vaccine (Moderna version) was being used in the US at a military base in 2014. The WHO own the patents for C19, AIDS, SARS, EBOLA, H1N1, Swine Flu, BSE and Zika and you are able to look them up. Anything that is made by nature cannot be patented. If you would like a list of the patents let me know. Peace and Blessings!
onawah
15th May 2024, 22:00
Ex-CDC Director Warns Gain-of-Function Research on Bird Flu Could Spark ‘Great Pandemic’
By Tom Ozimek, Reporter
5/13/24
https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/ex-cdc-director-warns-gain-of-function-research-on-bird-flu-could-spark-great-pandemic-5649152?utm_source=News&src_src=News&utm_campaign=breaking-2024-05-15-2&src_cmp=breaking-2024-05-15-2&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAbuwqYhIE6cbF7boC8GZWBnLpnuOYtHdnTeTx2Qu%2BcGg%3D
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Dr. Robert Redfield, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, testifies before Congress on Capitol Hill, in Washington, on March 8, 2023. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
(Video at the link)
"‘Bird flu, I think, is going to be the cause of a great pandemic—where they are teaching these viruses how to be more infectious for humans,’ Dr. Redfield said.
Dr. Robert Redfield, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), has issued a grim warning about the dangers of gain-of-function research, predicting that scientists tinkering with making the bird flu virus more infectious is what will trigger the next “great pandemic.”
Dr. Redfield, who in the past railed against the use of U.S. tax dollars to fund gain-of-function research at the Chinese virus lab at the heart of the COVID-19 origin controversy, is once again sounding the alarm on the dangers of risky scientific experiments going badly awry.
In a recent interview on NewsNation, Dr. Redfield recalled a recent op-ed he wrote in The Wall Street Journal calling for a moratorium on gain-of-function research, which involves altering the properties of a pathogen, such as its virulence, in order to study its potential impact on human health.
Proponents of such research argue it can help scientists better learn how the virus behaves and spreads, and so come up with counter-measures more effectively. Opponents say the potential benefits are outweighed by the risks such research poses as it makes viruses more lethal.
“I don’t think that research should be done,” Dr. Redfield told NewsNation. “That’s the real threat. That’s the real biosecurity threat, that these university labs are doing these bio-experiments that are intentionally modifying viruses—and I think bird flu I think is going to be the cause of a great pandemic—where they are teaching these viruses how to be more infectious for humans.”
Dr. Redfield’s remarks come amid a multi-state outbreak of the Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI) H5N1 virus, commonly known as the bird flu, in dairy cows. The virus has been detected in 42 dairy cattle herds across nine states as of May 13, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). Only one case of human infection with the virus has been reported.
Bird Flu Gain-of-Function Research?
While Dr. Redfield said that there’s a “pretty heavy” species barrier (consisting of a five-amino-acid change) for the virus to overcome through natural mutations to become infectious to humans, he said that barrier could easily be erased by human meddling.
“In the laboratory, I could make it highly infectious for humans in months,” he said, while urging his colleagues in the scientific community not to tempt fate and to reject gain-of-function research on the bird flu virus.
Dr. Redfield’s warning comes just weeks after cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough’s colleagues alleged in a post on the Courageous Discourse blog that the USDA has been collaborating with the Chinese Academy of Sciences since 2021 on research that includes “serial passage” of the bird flu virus through mallard ducks.
“Serial passage is considered gain-of-function research as it mimics a natural zoonotic jump in an accelerated fashion, leading to enhanced transmissibility among different species,” wrote John Leake and Nicolas Hulscher. “This method has a history of artificially introducing novel pathogens into the wild.”
The Threat of Biowarfare: Chinese Labs and Weaponized Migration
Mr. Leake and Mr. Hulscher said that the bulk of the USDA’s research on avian flu viruses is being conducted at the U.S. National Poultry Research Center, Southeast Poultry Research Laboratory (SEPRL) facility in Athens, Georgia.
One ongoing research project on the bird flu virus that involves collaboration between the USDA and the Chinese Academy of Sciences entails the carrying out “in vivo challenge work” at the SEPRL facility, which involves the introduction of the bird flu virus into a living organism—typically animal—to observe its behavior, immune responses triggered by the virus, and replication dynamics and pathogenicity.
Mr. Leake and Mr. Hulscher alleged that several months after the start of “this gain-of-function attempt” in 2021, a new H5N1 virus (clade 2.3.4.4b) appeared in wild birds in the United States, leading to the current outbreaks.
While a number of researchers propose that the current H5N1 viruses were brought to North America by wild migratory birds from Asia, Mr. Leake and Mr. Hulscher said this is “questionable” and urge investigation into whether there may have been a leak at the SEPRL facility.
“Urgent investigation is required to ensure there were no lab leaks at the SEPRL facility in Athens, Georgia, or any other facility that could lead to the escape of lab-modified strains of H5N1 bird flu,” they wrote.
The Epoch Times has reached out to the USDA with a request for comment on Dr. Redfield’s warning, on the claims made in the Courageous Discourse article, and on whether the USDA considers the SEPRL studies on bird flu viruses gain-of-function research.
Gain-Of-Function and COVID-19
The question of whether U.S. tax dollars were used to fund gain-of-function research in China on coronaviruses has been in the spotlight for some time and remains steeped in controversy, in part because the definition of what exactly constitutes such research is a matter of some debate.
Dr. Redfield has insisted that taxpayers ended up unknowingly funding risky gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), the Chinese lab at the center of the lab-leak origin theory of the virus that caused COVID-19.
He made the remark while responding to questions during a March 8, 2023, session of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic.
“I think there’s no doubt that NIH was funding gain-of-function research,” Dr. Redfield told Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-N.Y.), who then asked the former CDC official, “Is it likely that American tax dollars funded the gain-of-function research that created this virus?” referring to the hypothesis that the pathogen behind COVID-19 leaked from a lab in Wuhan.
He replied in the affirmative, adding that he believes funding came from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and other federal agencies.
This has been disputed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), as well as by former NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins, and others.
“The NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology,” Dr. Fauci said at a Senate hearing on May 11, 2021.
Dr. Collins said in a statement on May 19, 2023, that “neither NIH nor NIAID have ever approved any grant that would have supported ‘gain-of-function’ research on coronaviruses that would have increased their transmissibility or lethality for humans.”
In his testimony on Capitol Hill, Dr. Redfield said that the COVID-19 pandemic presented a “case study” on the potential dangers of gain-of-function research and called for such work to be halted.
“While many believe that gain-of-function research is critical to get ahead of viruses by developing vaccines, in this case, I believe it was the exact opposite, unleashing a new virus on the world without any means of stopping it and resulting in the deaths of millions of people,” he said.
“Because of this, it is my opinion that we should call for a moratorium on gain-of-function research until we have a broader debate and we come to a consensus as a community about the value of gain-of-function research,” he added.
Meanwhile, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is preparing for a scenario in which the bird flu starts to spread among humans."
Sérénité
16th May 2024, 18:02
From the first month of the roll out of the C-jabs, over the following 3years I had somewhere in the region of about 12 episodes of subconjunctival haemorrhages.
(Identical to the post of Norman’s above, the farmer in Texas)
I’d never had it happen before, ever. After a while an obvious pattern emerged, it was happening after I’d been in close contact with someone who had the C jab/ booster within the last few days.
I had extensive tests and nobody could confirm why this was happening to me. But personally I am convinced it was a reaction to the mRNa (or something else in it) shedding.
If that’s the case, it will be interesting to see what happens when the mRNa flu shots are rolled out later this year/early next year. As we all know, flu is usually spread via the people who’ve had the flu jab…so if mRNa can have this reaction in people then what a great way to fool the masses into thinking bird flu is running rampant, when its infact some form of reaction to the mRNa flu jabs they’ve just started to dish out en masse.
norman
6th June 2024, 10:47
That didn't take long
https://t.me/rightonradio/23473?single
rightonradio/23473
Am I being too cynical . . . but do I hear "Biden" doing a U Turn on the border just in time for a Mexico H5N1 scam (and an election) to put the patriots on the back foot again when they call it a scamdemic ?
They've already shown us that putting the patriots on the back foot is how their think tank/A.I. is playing the game right now. Supporting the Palestinians against Israel was a great move to make fake Christian right wingers look like idiots and villains.
https://t.me/disclosetv/13984
disclosetv/13984
norman
6th June 2024, 11:45
H5N2 ?
https://t.me/insiderpaper/28579
insiderpaper/28579
norman
14th June 2024, 22:06
https://x.com/wallstreetapes/status/1801110901715820692
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American Farmer Breaks Down What’s Taking Place In Idaho
In addition to the water shutoff order on a half million acres of farmland impacting farmers and about 6,400 water users. The Government is targeting chicken farms and cattle across the US
“They are coming for this food system and they're coming for the homesteaders”
“Idaho was supposed to be like this big potato, conservative, you know, live that rule life kind of a place. But if you've been following the stuff that's been going on in Idaho lately, something's that the tides are changing in Idaho.
In the last couple of videos, we've been talking about how they've been calling the chickens because of the bird flu. And I want you guys to understand too that they're using the PCR test for that. And I want you to go do your homework on how reliable that test actually is.
Okay, You guys gotta start peeling open this onion:
On May 16th, May 16th, just a short while ago, news surfaced of an outbreak at Hendricks Poultry in Iona County. And the company announced 400 layoffs, and that's 6.5 million poultry likely will be killed to stop the spread in Ionia County alone. Nearly 91 million poultry in the US are affected.
With outbreaks in 48 states as of Friday, according to the Center of Disease Control, additionally 9 states including Michigan have reported outbreaks of the Avian Flu in cattle and with 49 herds across the US are impacted.
Okay, I have more here. Don't go anywhere now. I'm telling you guys, they are coming for this food system and they're coming for the homesteaders.
Please understand me when I'm telling you. The whole deal, they have to control all of the food or it's not gonna work. This is gonna be a kind of a slow fast process. Right, It's not gonna happen like overnight or anything, but they are moving towards that right now at record speed.
And they're gonna use this stuff to get you there through the fear and everything”
norman
25th June 2024, 21:05
The motions and the potions but no evidence
(The roadshow is back in town)
Finland becomes first country to start bird flu vaccines for humans
June 25, 2024
https://insiderpaper.com/finland-becomes-first-country-to-start-bird-flu-vaccines-for-humans/
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Finland is set to become the first country globally to offer preemptive bird flu vaccines to certain workers exposed to animals, starting as early as next week, health authorities said Tuesday, Reuters reported.
The Nordic nation has procured vaccines for 10,000 individuals, each requiring two doses, through a collaborative EU purchase of up to 40 million doses for 15 countries from the manufacturer CSL Seqirus.
The decision to start providing bird flu vaccines reflects fears that people in close contact with infected animals could contract the H5N1 virus themselves.
“The vaccine will be offered to those aged 18 or over who are at increased risk of contracting avian influenza due to their work or other circumstances,” the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare said in a statement.
According to Reuters, THL stated that Finland has not detected the virus in humans. However, due to the transmission risks associated with its fur farms, the country is keen to initiate vaccinations.
Bird flu, also known as avian influenza, is an infectious viral disease that primarily affects birds but can also infect humans and other animals. The disease is caused by strains of the influenza virus, particularly types A and H5N1, H7N9, and H5N8.
norman
22nd February 2025, 21:52
Joel Salatin: The Truth About Mass Killing of Poultry, Avian Flu, and Restoring Sanity to Farming
Sayer Ji's Substack [ Feb 22, 2025
When one bird gets sick, they kill them all—but is mass extermination really the answer to avian flu?
In the ever-expanding theater of industrial agriculture, a new villain is constantly paraded before the public: the "deadly" avian flu. But what if this so-called crisis is not just a function of nature, but rather an engineered problem exacerbated—if not outright created—by the very system claiming to solve it?
Joel Salatin, the legendary regenerative farmer from Polyface Farms, is raising the alarm: mass poultry exterminations in the name of disease control are not only irrational but an assault on nature itself.
In a fiery testimony, Salatin deconstructs the mainstream narrative surrounding avian influenza, exposing the deep contradictions and outright failures of government-mandated poultry culling policies. Below, we explore his key points, along with five powerful verbatim excerpts that make his case crystal clear.
continue (https://sayerji.substack.com/p/joel-salatin-the-truth-about-mass)
Sue (Ayt)
23rd February 2025, 02:41
Joel Salatin: The Truth About Mass Killing of Poultry, Avian Flu, and Restoring Sanity to Farming
Sayer Ji's Substack [ Feb 22, 2025
When one bird gets sick, they kill them all—but is mass extermination really the answer to avian flu?
In the ever-expanding theater of industrial agriculture, a new villain is constantly paraded before the public: the "deadly" avian flu. But what if this so-called crisis is not just a function of nature, but rather an engineered problem exacerbated—if not outright created—by the very system claiming to solve it?
Joel Salatin, the legendary regenerative farmer from Polyface Farms, is raising the alarm: mass poultry exterminations in the name of disease control are not only irrational but an assault on nature itself.
In a fiery testimony, Salatin deconstructs the mainstream narrative surrounding avian influenza, exposing the deep contradictions and outright failures of government-mandated poultry culling policies. Below, we explore his key points, along with five powerful verbatim excerpts that make his case crystal clear.
continue (https://sayerji.substack.com/p/joel-salatin-the-truth-about-mass)
I was just thinking about this very subject today, Norman. A small local restaurant shut down this week, partially because of the price of eggs. Others restaurants and bakeries are complaining about the same thing too. They just cannot keep up with the prices for baked goods and breakfasts, etc. due to the cost of eggs, which is sky-high. The great "they" explain it as due to bird flu, of course.
But really, wouldn't any flu be best left alone to spread, and create natural immunity among the birds, and then fade away? And does killing all the chickens prevent other birds from picking it up? And do they plan to kill all the birds? It just doesn't make sense, and makes me suspect an artificial egg shortage that is just another shortage created to harass us. (And to set the prevailing tone for some new injection.) Last time it was toilet paper.
But for whatever reasons, they sure have been hotting up the rhetoric about this H5N1 and its dangers once again.
Flash
24th February 2025, 04:25
Joel Salatin: The Truth About Mass Killing of Poultry, Avian Flu, and Restoring Sanity to Farming
Sayer Ji's Substack [ Feb 22, 2025
When one bird gets sick, they kill them all—but is mass extermination really the answer to avian flu?
In the ever-expanding theater of industrial agriculture, a new villain is constantly paraded before the public: the "deadly" avian flu. But what if this so-called crisis is not just a function of nature, but rather an engineered problem exacerbated—if not outright created—by the very system claiming to solve it?
Joel Salatin, the legendary regenerative farmer from Polyface Farms, is raising the alarm: mass poultry exterminations in the name of disease control are not only irrational but an assault on nature itself.
In a fiery testimony, Salatin deconstructs the mainstream narrative surrounding avian influenza, exposing the deep contradictions and outright failures of government-mandated poultry culling policies. Below, we explore his key points, along with five powerful verbatim excerpts that make his case crystal clear.
continue (https://sayerji.substack.com/p/joel-salatin-the-truth-about-mass)
I was just thinking about this very subject today, Norman. A small local restaurant shut down this week, partially because of the price of eggs. Others restaurants and bakeries are complaining about the same thing too. They just cannot keep up with the prices for baked goods and breakfasts, etc. due to the cost of eggs, which is sky-high. The great "they" explain it as due to bird flu, of course.
But really, wouldn't any flu be best left alone to spread, and create natural immunity among the birds, and then fade away? And does killing all the chickens prevent other birds from picking it up? And do they plan to kill all the birds? It just doesn't make sense, and makes me suspect an artificial egg shortage that is just another shortage created to harass us. (And to set the prevailing tone for some new injection.) Last time it was toilet paper.
But for whatever reasons, they sure have been hotting up the rhetoric about this H5N1 and its dangers once again.
In the late 2,000, there were the H1N1 fright and everybody was getting vaccinated. I was training a group of employees from a Pharma company, manufacturing the sh ts for my country. The scientists were in my class. I asked them if they were taking the s h t s and they said no. So guess what I did not do. I could not ask why, whey would not have answered anyhow.
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