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mojo
19th April 2024, 14:41
First I realize that most people do not trust the MSM news. That is amazing after growing up listening to Walter Cronkite, Mike Wallace etc. on the big 3 networks. When did you stop believing the MSM news? For me it really started with Trump calling out the fake news. I always thought at least Fox news was somewhat "fair & balanced," how laughable today.. I dont trust any news anymore and if I did it would be a problem living under all the fear porn, but still have peace knowing to trust is in a higher power.
wondering
19th April 2024, 15:30
Apart from scanning the MSM headlines, on line, I don't do MSM at all. I NEVER watch TV news, I don't even know what channels carry them anymore. I have noticed, when I scan on line, that unlike years ago, many of the same stories are featured for 2 or 3 days in a row with no change at all. Short staff? Very noticeable.
Vicus
19th April 2024, 18:03
Well,I don't get news, I search for them... :sherlock:
I don't have/watch TV from 2004, when I got Internet,for TV shows and movies too,plenty pirate senders out there...
My bull **** detector is 99% accurate, nobody is perfect...
Just a healthy percent common sense do the job ;)
Casey Claar
19th April 2024, 19:00
I have never watched, listened to or read the news -as such. I sometimes listen to what people are saying about the world and world affairs ( though my tolerance for what typically gets said is admittedly low ). Anything that is important to be aware of will come to my attention this way. It is important almost solely to my realizing that groups of people are being challenged. Or that a change itself may be coming to the planet. I balance this against the natural world ( the world as it is [ directly before me ] without the news-streams- including those coming from people who are parroting and/or in some way expressing what got injected into them via the streams ). No, none of that is truly healthy, or helpful. It is the actual shot/jab most people are accepting on a regular, daily basis. This position may seem extreme. I know. -but it accurately relays what seems to me the truth of it.
ExomatrixTV
19th April 2024, 19:19
Trust has to be earned ... not blindly given ... even then, you still know everybody can become victim of very sophisticated "whitewashed lies (https://johnkuhles.substack.com/p/whitewashed-lies)" (falsely) assumed as "truth" or "factual".
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Some of the Alternative News/Media Sources that are also using/citing Mainstream Sources!
often willfully ignored by Mainstream Media because it does not support their Tunnel Vision Pushed Narratives serving a specific agenda (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum) ... There are enough mainstream sources contradicting the big narratives they push, and you need Alternative Media outlets to show what they do not want you to see nor discuss publicly.
Derrick Broze
Chris Hedges
Matt Taibbi
Dr. John Campbell
Jim Jordan
Elon Musk
Jimmy Dore
Jose Vega
Neil Oliver
Mark Dice
Dan Dicks
Joe Rogan
Tim Pool
Max Igan
Luke Rudkowski
Alex Jones
Avi Yemini - Rebel News
Ezra Levant
Andrew Breitbart
Rush Limbaugh
James Corbett
Paul Begley
Scott Adams
SyrianGirl Maram Susli
Eva Vlaardingerbroek
Lana Lokteff
Lisa Haven
Lauren Southern
The Patriot Nurse
Tulsi Gabbard
Catherine Austin Fitts
Melissa Fykes
Lara Logan
Megyn Kelly
Candace Owens
Kari Lake
Kristi Leigh
Janet Ossebaard
Jane Burgermeister
Kerry Cassidy
Tree of Logic
Dr. Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde
Dr. Rima Laibow
Daniel Estulin
Maria Zee
David Icke
Patrick M. Wood
G. Edward Griffin
Bill Cooper
David Knight
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Tucker Carlson
Dr. Ron Paul
Rand Paul
Ben Swann
Chris Sky
Marcel De Graaff
Matt Walsh
Michael Tsarion
Michael Tellinger
Henrik Palmgren
Carl Benjamin
Aaron Maté
Dave Rubin
Dr. Pierre Kory
Andrew Johnson
John Pilger
Mads Palsvig
Bill Ryan
Alexander Mercouris
Douglas Macgregor
Edward Snowden
Scott Ritter
Dr. Joseph Mercola
Julian Assange
John Kuhles
Richie Allen
Russell Brand
AmazingPolly "Polly St George"
Dan Bongino
Mike Adams
Adam Kokesh
Judge Napolitano
Jordan Maxwell
Taylor Hudak
Richard Vobes
Dr. Bhakdi
Ryan Cristián
Seymour Hersh
Savanah Hernandez
Stefan Molyneux
Abby Martin
Adam Curry
Robert Jensen
Dr. Vernon Coleman
Robert Gouveia Esq
Briahna Joy Gray
Mattias Desmet
Naomi Seibt
Paul Joseph Watson
Lee Ann Mcadoo
Steven M. Greer Dr. MD
Woody Harrelson
Sasha Latypova
Manly P. Hall
Ken O'Keefe
Lucas Alexander
Richard M. Dolan Phd
A.J. Faleski, An0maly
Dr. Jordan Peterson
Ann VanderSteel
Dr. Nick Begich
Claudia Stauber
Brian Rose
Daniel Liszt - Dark Journalist
Isabel Oakeshott
Del Bigtree
David Freiheit
JP Sears
Robby Soave
Robert W Malone, MD
Vinny Eastwood
Thomas Renz
Stew Peters
Elana Freeland
Dr. Reiner Fuellmich
Sean Morgan
Anya Parampil
Mislav Kolakusic MEP
Kim Iversen
Alan Watt
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Dr. Judy D. Wood
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Rob Roos MEP
Cristian Terhes MEP
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Matthew Ehret
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Whitney Webb
Gary S Franchi Jr.
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Karen Hudes
Jim Marrs
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Cathy O’Brien
Pascal Najadi
Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger
Dr. Judy A. Mikovits
Dr. Bryan Ardis
Dr. Lee Merritt
Gonzola Lira
Robert Barnes
Christine Anderson MEP
Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson
Garry Allen
Ole Dammegård – Cody Snodgres
Gerard Celente
Stan Deyo
Marcel Messing
Leo Zagami
Matt Landman
Irma Schiffers
Jim Lee
Ronald Bernard
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Kevin Barrett
Sacha Stone
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Alfred Lambremont Webre
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Paul Craig Roberts
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Ralph Smart
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Dave X22 Report
Kim Schmitz
Dr. Len Horowitz
Sean Stone
Gareth Icke
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Bret Weinstein
Chris Williamson
David Cheyne
Graham Hancock
Ananda Bosman
Antony Sutton
Dr. Sheri Tenpenny
Ken Wheeler
Konstantin Kisin
Larry Pinkney
Sam Harris
Michael Malice
Michael J. Knowles
Douglas Murray
Vivek Ramaswamy
James O'Keefe
Ben Shapiro
Naomi Wolf
Richard D. Wolff
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko
Owen Shroyer
Jon Bowne
Josh Sigurdson
Dees
Aaron Russo
Dr. Lorraine Day
Dr Carrie Madej
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Laurence Gardner
Ben Stewart
Rik Clay
Ian Crane
Aaron Franz
Dr. Michael Coffman
Peter Levenda
Elsa Kurt
Harry Vox
Mikki Willis
Harald Kautz Vella
Dr Rashid A Buttar
Jeff Berwick
Brian Young HighImpactFlix
Dr. Kary Mullis
Patrick Henningsen
Erin Elizabeth
Peter Zeihan
David Avo Wolfe
Jordan Sather
Chef Pete Evans
Amy Kelly
Dr Russell Blaylock
Ben Joseph Stewart
John Taylor Gatto
Dr. Christina Parks
Dr. Paul Thomas
Dr. Christiane Northrup
Peggy Hall
Pam Popper
Connor Boyack
Peter Breggin
Dr. Stephanie Seneff
Connor Boyack
Bishop Athanasius Schneider
Dr. Craig Truczynski
Kari Bundy
Pastor Tony Spell
Alex Newman
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Mary Holland
Jeff Witzeman
Zachary King
Woody Jenkins
David Whitehead
Jenny Crane
Andrea Ebert
Dr. Kathy Willis
Anthony Luczak
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Carlo Maria Vigano
James Woods
Dennis Michael Lynch
Marcia Pavlis
Dr. Suneel Dhand
Alison Morrow
Lydia Leitermann
Debbie Lerman
Jacob Siegel
Freddie Sayers
Sharyl Attkisson
Tom Fitton
Sheena Alexandra
Ian R Crane
Brian Gerrish
Pippa King
Lou Collins
John Kitson
Mark Anderson
David DuByne
Steve Pieczenik
Dr. Ben Tapper
Richard D.Hall
Dr. Patrick Moore (former Greenpeace)
Vera Sharav
Paul E. Marik
Dr. Tina Peers
Damon Imani
Clayton Morris
Michael Shellenberger
Kary Banks Mullis
Louis Rossmann
Jim Caviezel
Dr Devra Davis
Grace Reallygraceful
Dr Edward Group
Feargus O’Connor
Dr. Magda Havas
Lee Fang
Samantha Edwards
Ivor Cummins
W. Scott McCollough
Joseph P. Farrell
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Mike Lindell
Rebecca Walser
Col. John Mills
Brendon Lee O'Connell
Jay Dyer
Josh Friedman
Jake RattlesnakeTV
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James Roguski
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Roger Waters
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Miko Peled
Denzel Washington
Dr Jay Bhattacharya
Claire Lehmann
Douglass Murray
Wade-Frazier
Robert Bilott
Lee Fang
Tim Ballard
Ted Gunderson
Texas Lindsay
Max Blumenthal
Jim Breuer
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Stephen Gardner
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John Stossel
Tammy Peterson
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Dr. Kelly Victory
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Meryl Nass MD
James English
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Dan Cohen
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Jefferey Jaxen
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Jim Ferguson
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Dr. Lee Merritt MD
Ernst Wolff
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Nurse Gail Macrae
Prof. Dr. Stefan Homburg
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Kevin D. Roberts, Ph.D
Mahyar Tousi
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Ben Joseph Stewart
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John Beaudoin
Calley Means
Sabrina Wallace
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Tony Heller
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Sheamus Bruner
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Lou Dobbs
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Martin Durkin
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Dr. Mary Talley Bowden
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Alistair Williams
Mario Nawfal
Lt. Col. Thomas Bearden
Coleman Hughes
Steve Quayle
General Blaine Holt
Peter Hitchens
Reinette Senum
Buck Sexton
Jason William Heinrichs aka An0maly
Roseanne Barr
Andrew Johnson
David Clements
Kym Staton
Dr. Alok Kanojia, MD MPH
Gary Waterman
John Henry
Randall Carlson
Ryan Veli
Dr. Jeffrey Long
Dr. Ana Maria Mihalcea
Paulo Figueiredo
Professor Masayasu Inoue
Ralph Bosshard
Russell Bentley
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Jeksey
20th April 2024, 23:21
This is a good question. No, I do not trust any of the media I am "consuming". I try to cover all fronts, to the best of my abilities, and find whatever degree of truth I can find based on my OWN feeling, intelligence, discernment and so on.
I try to look at the MSM media. This is pretty easy because it is the most popular everywhere and the same thing gets repeated over and over. I try to look at Redacted's youtube channel and they are doing a good job when they are reporting on news events. It gets tricky when they invite some expert (Scott Ritter is a frequent guest there for example). I enjoy these guests but exercise even more caution when listening to them. I also watch Democracy now on youtube.
These days I'm finding X to be a somewhat adequate news source. Of course I am also very thankful to the community here at avalon for keeping everyone updated regarding the world events. A special shoutout to Ravenlocke (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?8767-Ravenlocke) here.
I also try to pay attention to independent journalists (sometimes I doubt there are such btw) who have been kicked out from all kinds of media programmes and have also been kicked around by people, who trust the MSM media. If people hate you so much, then you must be doing something right.
Oh, substack is also nice for a more in depth analysis of some topics (like the covid vaccines). But at this point the fronts, as I call them, are way too much and I visit substack rarely.
In short - it is very difficult to stay informed when you trust no one. The most useful tool at our possession is our discernment.
palehorse
21st April 2024, 06:10
My news I get on Avalon and few other alt sources, also from friends and local people, on Avalon we always have the amazing folks to help measure the levels of horse excrement contained in the news, I also developed along the year a very good sense to detect it. I don't have TV in my house last time I had one I was about 17 years old I guess, my kid grew up without one, we really don't care at all what is been said on the news.
Last time I remember watching that thing, I was in a restaurant Chinese like, and all these folks was terrorized with some lunatic killing people inside one of the biggest shopping mall in Bangkok, I was just observing how the news really get into their minds and change their behavior. The thing that happen was showed live on TV, why would they show such horrible thing of some lunatic hunting down people to kill? live? I would say it was just another theatrical show with political interests in order to pass some bill, but to be frank I opted not to follow up on that one so I don't know what really happened, but I am sure it is nothing as it was stated by the authorities.
The same with all these lunatics in US and elsewhere killing kids inside school, killing muslims inside mosques, all the cop killers, vaccination campaigns, politics (affff this one), etc, etc, and etc.. News are very toxic poison for the mind. Keep clean, keep safe, go for a walk and listen to the birds they have a way more to teach than all these clowns in the news (combined).
meeradas
21st April 2024, 06:50
I trust the news that I get from myself.
My source is pretty quiet, most of the time.... means: No real news there, most of the time.
All the "outside" news are entertainment, at best.
Distraction.
palehorse
21st April 2024, 07:01
I trust the news that I get from myself.
My source is pretty quiet, most of the time.... means: No real news there, most of the time.
All the "outside" news are entertainment, at best.
Distraction.
damn right :heart:
Valknut3301
21st April 2024, 07:43
If I don't see it with my own eyes, I don't trust it.
Whatever they say, I always assume the opposite is true.
I am reminded of a Dali Lama quote, and I'll have to paraphrase because I don't remember it verbatim. "Do you want to know how to choose your leaders? Don't listen to their words, listen to the meaning behind their words. If they speak of fear or hate, you know you shouldn't follow them." And I always do that. I listen to the meaning behind the words I hear, and all I hear from the MSM is fear and hate, so I ignore them, because compassion and love are the true methods of a conscientious person.
I realized this when I was very young, so long ago now I can't remember. It's just something I've always believed.
norman
21st April 2024, 08:04
I don't really see stuff as 'NEWS' any more, even when I'm actually watching or listening to a bit of 'news'.
It's all thought stimulation in my quest to figure out what the F is going on.
In large part, it's 'People Watching', and while I'm doing that I'm steadily growing my other non intellectual powers of observation. I'm still not very good at it but when I look back over 20 years I know I'm a hell of a lot better at it than I used to be.
Ultimately I know that whatever realisations and truth blasts I get will come from inside me, not from the incoming data stream.
XelNaga
21st April 2024, 09:12
Some 15-20 years ago, I was a part of the national movement called Sons of Serbia. We were far from radical or extreme, we were just patriotic and organised mostly peaceful protests. We were against selling of Kosovo, against Serbia entering the EU etc. Just normal things that most of the people agree with, but not the corrupt government and of course their msm news.
Anyway, on one of those protests, 2 of my friends and I gave an interview to one of msm newspapers.
Well, tomorrow in the news there was an article, with the pictures of those 2 friends and myself, with our logos etc.
None of the words in the article were our words, they portrayed us radicals, fanatics, extreme gropu of violent people.
Yeah, since that day, I trust nothing I see on TV or read in the news.
Losus4
21st April 2024, 09:25
WW3 is an information war, and there is a simple rule for how best to navigate this information war:
Whatever the MSM does, or wants you to do—do the opposite.
The only value to be gained by consuming any form of MSM, is refining ones ability to perceive the lies and propaganda peddled by it. Generally, whoever has been deplatformed or censored tends to be more credible and have more integrity. David Icke's daily podcasts and Red Ice Radio are my go-to sources. Each have held their honour and integrity for =< 2 decades, and have been proved right time and time again.
grapevine
21st April 2024, 09:28
I realise the mainstream news is full of propaganda and lies but still like to know what crap is being fed to us, and so I watch it every day.
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24th April 2024, 19:50
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