My stomach illness: what's going on?

[TigaHawk]

I've felt nauseous after eating for the past 15 years.

i can only eat small amounts and even then its hit and go. mixing and matching to rule out food allergies and an allergy test revealed nothing.

the only things ive noticed is if i lie down after eating i do not get the nausia unless im sitting up again.

the only other thing that completely negates this feeling is when im on antibiotics. moved out to a farm recently got some chooks built a big pen thought it was all fancy / safe. a fox attack after had me giving the survivor pills morning and night. one evening she freaked out when one of the cats appeared at the door when trying to give her a pill, she flipped literally and scratched my eye quite badly with her claw. it's been swolen and closed the past 2days due to the scratch on the upper eyelid, eye is ok had it checked. so just swollen and weeping eyelid. but they've given me "forte viatris 875/125 amoxicillin / cavulanic acid" to prevent infection from the eye scratch and i had a meal when i took this under their advice, was waiting for the uneasy feeling before heading back to bed to sleep it off as im half blind at the moment anyway but....

im not feeling sick. and im not lying down.

so what do you think is going on with my stomach as everything ive read says lying down should make upsets worse, not better. and now the noticable difference with antibiotics. with not lying down.

thanks for your advice!

[Sue (Ayt)]

TigaHawk. 15 years of nauseousness sound miserable. So sorry to hear that.

Since antibiotics seem to relieve your symptoms, it sounds like a bacterial overgrowth condition might be the cause.

Look up SIBO (Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth). That may possibly give you a clue as to what is going on.
Apparently, with SiBO more digestive acid is needed, so taking antacids like TUMS and others will make the symptoms worse.

Hopefully your relief continues even after you finish your antibiotics course.

[Ravenlocke]

I've felt nauseous after eating for the past 15 years.

i can only eat small amounts and even then its hit and go. mixing and matching to rule out food allergies and an allergy test revealed nothing.

the only things ive noticed is if i lie down after eating i do not get the nausia unless im sitting up again.

the only other thing that completely negates this feeling is when im on antibiotics. moved out to a farm recently got some chooks built a big pen thought it was all fancy / safe. a fox attack after had me giving the survivor pills morning and night. one evening she freaked out when one of the cats appeared at the door when trying to give her a pill, she flipped literally and scratched my eye quite badly with her claw. it's been swolen and closed the past 2days due to the scratch on the upper eyelid, eye is ok had it checked. so just swollen and weeping eyelid. but they've given me "forte viatris 875/125 amoxicillin / cavulanic acid" to prevent infection from the eye scratch and i had a meal when i took this under their advice, was waiting for the uneasy feeling before heading back to bed to sleep it off as im half blind at the moment anyway but....

im not feeling sick. and im not lying down.

so what do you think is going on with my stomach as everything ive read says lying down should make upsets worse, not better. and now the noticable difference with antibiotics. with not lying down.

thanks for your advice!

Hello,

I just read your post and recognized the pill prescription you were given because I was prescribed the same pills same dosage last year in March. I posted about my hospital incident in the private section of the forum. I was hospitalized with pneumonia and after the hospital stay I had to do a course of intravenous antibiotics for almost three weeks and then I was prescribed these amoxi-clav pills for two weeks.

However these pills can have strong side effects and can upset the stomach in fact the doctor told me to call her right away if I got an upset stomach or side effects.
At the time I researched online to find out what these pills side effects can be. I also found out that the dosage 875/125 is the strongest they can prescribe. These pills sometimes are also prescribed by dentists.

The warning is that not only can you get side effects while taking them but you can also develop stomach problems or other health problems after you finish taking them.

I dont have the info since it was last year. I’ll try to find it. In my case I didnt take them because I had already done treatment in hospital and as outpatient after.

If you have any side effects or problems with the pills please tell your doctor right way because they might be able to prescribe something else or a lighter dose maybe.


God bless and keep us posted.

[TigaHawk]

I've had the stomach issues for a while, the only thing that i noticed eases the nausia after eating is lying down.

I was only perscribed the antibiotics yesterday as i had an unfortunate incident with foxes and my chickens, an injured hen was chiling up on my enclosed pattio while she recovered and she freaked out due to one of my cats approaching the window when trying to give her a pill so she literally did a backflip in my lap and scratched my upper eyelid decently. just kept it washed out but its been swolen and constant tears, no goop tho but was getting worried at the swelling at the 4day mark so went to the doctors. they did a dye test and confirmed my eyeball is ok so its probably just due to the scratch on the eyelid itself.

its just really interesting to me that i took the first pill thismorning, and had lunch today and im ok - no nausea?

I'll continue with the antibiotics so my eye gets fixed up and if the stomach issues return i'll see them again to test for Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth. Last time i attempted to get this looked at i gave up as they couldent find anything after having me do some kind of breath test on an empty stomach that came back ok.

I also have rather bad hirtuism due to PCOS but that's another thing i'm living with. they wont do anything about it, just like if i'm going to grow a beard can you at least give me a proper one so i can rock it rather than a 16 year old pre-pubescent rat beard when im almost 40? thanks! i can cope with a proper beard, just not a rat beard. LOL! (I guess to show the mentality of if we cant find any help and we look long enough and try hard we just give up and live with it, which is sad but how it goes it seems)

thanks for your help and input!

[Casey Claar]

TigaHawk,

Nausea is no fun at all is it? and you are not yet even 40? Fifteen years is way too long to let this go on for, how have you coped? are you able to keep weight on? My dad taught me young that taking antibiotics is only something you do if your life is in immanent threat. Due this I have way less problems than do most of my contemporaries ( I am near 60 ). Due to our food and lifestyle choices our bodies can be overrun by parasites like bacteria, fungus, viruses, mites and more. It is a fair guess that stomach issues can be likely due to this. But antibiotics can make the situation worse, because they kill off the good bacteria with the bad leaving us in worse situations than previously. It can also tend to lead to an unending vicious wheel of wash, rinse and repeat to no real gain at all -this can even lead to our demise. The first thing to do is to look at the diet, your movement or exercise habits, water and possible fluid retention ( input/output ), and your breathing ( ie: what is the length of a natural breath ). The next is developing new practices and habits, and if needed bringing in Naturopathic aids.

Would like to share your eating habits and the length of your breath?

Do you consume:

alchohol
smoke cigarettes
refined sugar
heavily processed foods

In regard to the nausea diminishing when you lay down, I notice in my case this is often due to the nausea being related to either a headache, migraine or dizziness. I also notice that not a lot of other people recognize when they are actually dizzy. Are you aware of any dizziness on your part? With the nausea, is it only during/after eating? If yes how long does it take to subside?

[Denise/Dizi]

CAFFIEINE (especially on an empty stomach, as I don't eat breakfast) does that to me, and when it comes on, and I must remain upright? Crackers tend to help soak up some of the stomach acid that is making me want to vomit (Or feeling like I want to)... It isn't pleasant... So I always have crackers on hand... I don't want to give up my coffee... The darker the roast, the worse the nausea is...

For reference, I hardly ever drink alcohol... Maybe i've have had 3 glasses of wine in this entire year. And I do not drink soda at all, just sweetened iced tea... water and that dang coffee..

I have always had issues with acid/alkaline balance in my stomach. It started when my Dr.s put me on massive amounts of medications for MS... I have since stopped them all... But the damage was done.

After cutting out many things from my diet.. it got much better. But that does leave the issue of the gut bacterias, both good and bad that can also cause that issue..

SIBO would be a great place to start looking for you... As noted above. And seems more likely in your case, as you get the nausea AFTER you eat, versus prior as I do.

When you eat, the overgrowth of bacteria gets the food first, not you... And it indeed can make you very nauseous as well..

There are home tests that you can do to test whether your body is overly alkaline or acidic.. And while they seem silly, they work. I had acid reflux terribly for quite some time... It was so bad it would come up my throat and into the back of my mouth and burn terribly...

Out of desperation... I took some of those "Internet tests" and found that apple cider vinegar IMMEDIATELY got rid of symptoms... (Or the imbalance I had at the time)... Sometimes it is as simple as not what you eat, but when you eat it, or at least that was true in my case...

I would try a process of elimination.. Write out what you drink in the morning, and when.. how much, and WHEN and WHAT you eat... That may be very telling... The antibiotics may have had an immediate effect on one thing, but not the entire problem... I would be curious to see what you learn...

If you did allergy testing? Definately the next thing would be to balance the gut... Something "Digestive related" is definately going on... Keep us posted on how things go with the rest of the antibiotics... But that may sway things in the opposite direction, so be aware of how your body responds later too. While it may ease the nausea, you may end up noticing something else, but ignoring it, because you feel better than when you are feeling nauseaus.

And this may sound crazy but perhaps you have something else rather small also going on, polyps, small blockages keeping food in your intestines too long, etc... You may want to just have a colonoscopy to make sure things are alright before you end up with blockage. THAT can make you feel nauseaus as well.. Especially after eating, when the body is realizing you're adding to another issue already developing.

I had polyps when I was in my 30's and was shocked... Apparently most people do have them and never know it... Many other issues like diverticulutis as well, can cause issues... leading to nausea. Better to be safe than sorry, and 15 years is a long time my friend. Whatever it is, I hope it resolves... And that you find out what caused it so it doesn't recur.. That sounds miserable

[Tigger]

TigaHawk, I’m not a medical expert by any stretch, although it seems to me that you may have some disbiosis going on in your upper GI tract.

I would recommend reading some very helpful books:
1/. “Super Gut” - Dr. William Davis
2/. “Celery Juice” - Anthony William
3/. “Wheat Belly” - Dr. William Davis
4/. Liver Rescue” - Anthony William

“Super Gut” takes a very in-depth look at your gut microbiome, and provides some very valuable references and sources of specific probiotics and ‘yoghurt’ recipes which may be of benefit.

“Celery Juice” is a specific look at the healing benefits of this remarkable herb, although the author also references this in his more comprehensive book, “Liver Rescue”.

Reduce or eliminate these items from your diet:
Alcohol
Caffeine
Dairy
Eggs (!)
Wheat and wheat based products
Refined sugars
Pork
Soy and soy-based products
Canola oil

“Liver Rescue” also has a comprehensive recipe section in the last segment of the book that can assist you with preparing some very tasty meals that will give your GI tract time to heal.

If you have the time, there is a good documentary you may want to watch, “Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead”, where the filmmaker embarked on a vegetable juice diet for 30 days.

Try to avoid antibiotics unless absolutely necessary. The problem with most antibiotic preparations is that they will also wipe out a lot of the beneficial bacteria from your GI tract, and unless you purposely replace these, your gut can suffer over time.

[Ratszinger]

I've felt nauseous after eating for the past 15 years.

i can only eat small amounts and even then its hit and go. mixing and matching to rule out food allergies and an allergy test revealed nothing.

the only things ive noticed is if i lie down after eating i do not get the nausia unless im sitting up again.

the only other thing that completely negates this feeling is when im on antibiotics. moved out to a farm recently got some chooks built a big pen thought it was all fancy / safe. a fox attack after had me giving the survivor pills morning and night. one evening she freaked out when one of the cats appeared at the door when trying to give her a pill, she flipped literally and scratched my eye quite badly with her claw. it's been swolen and closed the past 2days due to the scratch on the upper eyelid, eye is ok had it checked. so just swollen and weeping eyelid. but they've given me "forte viatris 875/125 amoxicillin / cavulanic acid" to prevent infection from the eye scratch and i had a meal when i took this under their advice, was waiting for the uneasy feeling before heading back to bed to sleep it off as im half blind at the moment anyway but....

im not feeling sick. and im not lying down.

so what do you think is going on with my stomach as everything ive read says lying down should make upsets worse, not better. and now the noticable difference with antibiotics. with not lying down.

thanks for your advice!


H. pylori infection is treated with antibiotics. Sounds like a peptic ulcer to me. Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) infection occurs when Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) bacteria infect your stomach. This usually happens during childhood. It's so very common. We all have it usually to some degree I was taught. Most have no symptoms though. A common cause of stomach ulcers (peptic ulcers), H. pylori infection may be present in more than half the people in the world. Since the anti-biotics worked it tells me that you do have a infection in the stomach so I'd stay on that for the full dose don't stop taking them just because you feel better. 10 to 14 days should be enough to kill it off for you to calm your gut down. Go get tested at your doc for H. pylori.

[Tigger]

Dear TigaHawk:

Following on from my previous post, I’ve reflected on your stated symptoms a little more. I have some questions which you may want to consider (no need to reply):

1/. When you were a baby, were you fed breast milk or formula?
2/. Were you born naturally or via c-section?
3/. In your early years, were you given multiple scripts of antibiotics?
4/. Have you ever had glandular fever (Epstein-Barr)?
5/. Do you drink water from the town water supply, bottled or filtered water?

Here is why I ask these questions:

1/. From the material I’ve read (and I apologise, I can’t reference specifics, because I simply can’t remember the sources!), I’m led to understand that critical IG-G (immunoglobulin-G) proteins from the mother’s breastmilk is a powerful factor in helping the newborn’s gut lining to develop in a healthy manner. If this doesn’t happen, it leaves the gut open to ‘dysbiosis’ - a condition that creates an imbalance of healthy / pathogenic bacterial flora in the gut. Additionally, I remember some of my undergraduate microbiology / endocrinology lecturers talking about the importance of the transfer of healthy gut flora from mother’s breast milk. It is something to read up on; alas I am only offering this from a very foggy memory of my Microbiology-2&3 / Pathobiology-1 lectures!

This is completely fixable if you follow the suggestions put forward in the book, “Super Gut” (referenced previously).

2/. I’ve only heard this anecdotally; when a child is born by c-section, it doesn’t get the chance to ingest vital healthy gut-flora from the birthing process. Once again, I can only offer this as conjecture, because I simply can’t remember the articles where I’ve read this from (it was so long ago!). I can only ‘float’ this as a hypothesis, and I urge you to research this further.

3/. Here is something I can speak with some degree of personal experience. As a young child (10-13 years old), I was riddled with sinusitis and inflammation. The doctor (mis)diagnosed my condition as a bacterial infection and prescribed antibiotics. It was only later that I learned that the ‘symptoms’ were characteristic of a biochemical imbalance in the gut brought upon by (1) and (3) above.

I went to see a functional biochemist at age 14, and within 5 years of adopting a regimen of mineral supplements and excluding certain foods from my diet, all my symptoms vanished. That was a key driver to my studying Biotechnology at university.

4/. I’m asking this question based upon my study of the books, “Medical Medium”, and “Liver Rescue”, by Antony William. The author makes a good case of how this virus doesn’t always get eliminated from the liver, and can sometimes reside in organs and organ systems (specifically the liver) and mess with the natural immune system in later years if it isn’t fully eliminated. It can be a factor in gut-disbiosis, which may be a contributing factor to digestive problems in later life.

5/. Here’s one that not many people are going to like. The average person should ideally be drinking around 3L of water daily. Town water usually contains additives and chemicals that are harmful to the gut flora, namely chloride ions and in some cases fluoride and anti-flocculants. These additives can sometimes be detrimental to maintaining a healthy gut flora. {My opinion only - I can’t cite papers, so please do your own research}

I’ve never been a big fan of drinking bottled water. But in my experience, it is often far preferable than town-water.

If you can afford it, an RO (reverse osmosis) system that filters and re-mineralises your drinking water is the way to go. Alternatively, you can look for cheaper filtration systems that can remove many of the harmful chemicals from your typical tap-water.

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Once again, these are only my opinions / suggestions. I’m not a medical expert; I only offer you these considerations based upon what I have read and have personally experienced. In closing, I’d urge you to do your own research, and do not always take the advice from your GP as ‘datum’.

Best,
Tigger.

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[Casey Claar]

Question to John ( ExomatrixTV )

Since you began this regimen, have you ever paused it for a period of time, 2-4 weeks, to observe if it really is working? I mean, if it is in actuality healing the previous stomach issues. If not, what is the reason for such a lengthy near daily protocol? How bad/progressed was the stomach issue to begin with?

[ExomatrixTV]

Question to John ( ExomatrixTV )

Since you began this regimen, have you ever paused it for a period of time, 2-4 weeks, to observe if it really is working? I mean, if it is in actuality healing the previous stomach issues. If not, what is the reason for such a lengthy near daily protocol? How bad/progressed was the stomach issue to begin with?
It works also after a pause of 10 days (being on holidays/vacation) ... I also use it for so many other preventive reasons!

My whole digestive system including intestines was a (painful) mess ... not anymore.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

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[Denise/Dizi]

TigerHawk,

Has the nausea ever reached the point to actually vomiting? If so, and you vomit up anything that looks like coffee grinds, it may be an indication that you indeed have an ulcer... (That is how my ulcer got diagnosed, as it started bleeding)...

We have not heard from you about this in awhile, how are you doing now after a substantial time on the antibiotics?