Stop paying the National Debts!

[Steven]

Hi,

I have gathered a few articles and an amazing speech by Alex John about our ever growing national debts. There is so much to be said, but I'll be brief.

Here is the global situation: http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock?page=4

So, you see who's in trouble. All the western nations, including Japan, Australia, nearly all America's continent and Europe. Consequently, we have contracted a fraudulent debts from our own banksters, the old venetian banking system, the black nobility, all our own elite.

After bankruptcy, they come under the IMF and World Bank dictating to our government what is the agenda. They did it in the past, Bangladesh is an example among others, they are doing it now, Greece and Ireland. The nation becomes a privately own good and we the people are literally their belongings. They can decide whatever and it seems legal, the moral thing to do. Certainly not ethical.

That is what is brewing for us if we do not say: NO WAY! in mass: http://truthrss.com/2010/12/02/bankers/ (you must see this speech!)

We can do two simple things.

1. Talk about it.
2. Intentionally refuse this idea that we are in debt. It is fraudulent.

For those in personal debts.

Credit Cards: http://ezinearticles.com/?Stop-Paying-Credit-Card-Debt-Right-Now-Because-Somebody-Has-Not-Been-Completely-Honest-With-You&id=4812469

http://thisiswhyubroke.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/its-time-to-stop-paying-your-debts-yes-you-absolutely-heard-that-right/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11120

Personal debt is not a solution: http://www.walletpop.com/2010/05/03/debt-settlement-a-nuclear-option-that-most-people-shouldnt-co/?icid=main%7caim%7cdl6%7clink1%7chttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.walletpop.com%252Fblog%252F2010%252F05%252F0 3%252Fdebt-settlement-a-nuclear-option-that-most-people-shouldnt-co%252F

Ever wonder why we in the westernized countries produce nothing that we consume, everything comes from China (cargo factory in the Atlantic) and we are still going on. Where this money comes from? From the banks, landed to us and our government to keep us going! Worse, they do not even have this money, they create it on the promises of being paid back! No wander why we consume like crazy. We are wasting our future!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19782

And finally, some awesome three articles presenting how the elite sees our global awakening. How they are preparing for this.

Global awakening and the elite's reaction: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=19873&context=va

Revolution and repression: http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19951

New Eugenics: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20028

Say no the global debts! First in your heart and soul!

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

I am not an expert in this field, but I know there are alternative solutions to this established debt money system which absorbs our future.

In fact, there are many, some brutal, some smart, some just and some more not even thought yet.

Here is one: http://www.themoneymasters.com/monetary-reform-act/

Namaste, Steven

[Rocky_Shorz]

the next wave of housing walkaways are coming, but if everyone really wanted to turn the banks upside down...

just be late 1 time on your mortgage and it turns it to a lower rating so the banks need to cover part of the loans made against it...

When everyone in America except for the greedy pork on Wall Street makes this move...

the house of cards will crumble...

This time... no Wall Street or too big to fail bailouts...

let em crumble

let em cry

Do it now... for America and the world...

[cloud9]

the next wave of housing walkaways are coming, but if everyone really wanted to turn the banks upside down...

just be late 1 time on your mortgage and it turns it to a lower rating so the banks need to cover part of the loans made against it...

When everyone in America except for the greedy pork on Wall Street makes this move...

the house of cards will crumble...

This time... no Wall Street or too big to fail bailouts...

let em crumble

let em cry

Do it now... for America and the world...

Hey Rocky,

I've been waiting to see if someone knows how to handle the housing problem in regards to how people can get out of it. I know several people that have just stopped paying their mortgage, one of them had 2 full years without paying and then went to foreclosure.

I read somewhere that if you pay a small amount of your monthly payment you are still "honoring" your commitment, but you are in trouble once you don't pay any amount, in which case you are delinquent.

I've tried to find more information about it but nothing seems clear enough in order to make an educated decision.

As many others, I'm paying a big mortgage for a house that is worth 50% of my loan. Do you have more information about what to do?

Thank you very much.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well the only way to impact them is to get everyone to do it at once, it would create a snowball effect that can't be stopped...

walking away is easy, but where to go is the question, you won't be able to buy another home for 7-10 years, so hanging on to it will most likely recover its value in the same amount of time...

It all comes down to how much you like your home and whether you can afford payments...

Your friend could have stretched it out even further claiming bankruptcy for 6 months... Then the wife files for another 6

in California we have a hardship law so if you contact the lender and say because of (legit) hardship and you can only afford to pay $100/mo instead of $3500 they have to accept it or the courts will force them to take that payment until it is paid off...

I'm not sure about other states...

[cloud9]

Thank you Rocky, I think about this very often as I see many houses lost in foreclosure and others who are in the short sale stage, some better than others and all of them are so cheap right now, even in my own neighborhood, similar houses priced $200.000 less, so when I think about paying all that money plus interest it makes me mad... now, I didn't buy the house when they were really pricey, mi neighbor on the right side paid a lot more.

Anyway, I think if all people or at least a goo enough percentage of them would stop paying their loans, something good would come out of it buy people are just too afraid of taking any action.
I would do it if I knew that at least 30% of homeowners would do it too.

[Shezbeth]

Alright I've got a question that's burning a hole in my mind.

Is the US in an income tax revolt? I've heard 'yes' and 'no' from a variety of sources. I would like to know if anyone has any information. Thanks.

[gripreaper]

The solution is to starve the beast.

Then, go back to a money system where dollars are printed and circulated without interest. Here in America we have North Dakota as a good example of a state run bank, where North Dakota has a GDP around 10% and unemployment under 4%

It's when we gave the power to print money to the international bankers where they could charge us interest that we "sold the farm" so to speak. Then they expand the money supply until everyone is heavily in debt, then turn around and shrink the money supply foreclosing on everything until everybody is broke, and consolidate all the assets and power into their own hands.

This way, they own all the governments, corporations, military's, and all the prime assets and real estate.

Rinse repeat.

[witchy1]

From Steve's link:

This new reality in the world, coupled with the fact that the world’s population has never been so vast, presents a challenge to elites seeking to dominate people all over the world who are aware and awakened to the realities of social inequality, war, poverty, exploitation, disrespect, imperialism and domination. This directly implies that these populations will be significantly more challenging to control: economically, politically, socially, psychologically and spiritually.

Thus, from the point of view of the global oligarchy, the only method of imposing order and control – on this unique and historical human condition – is through the organized chaos of economic crises, war, and the rapid expansion and institutionalization of a global scientific dictatorship. Our hope is their fear; and our greatest fear is their only hope. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=19873&context=va

.........A nation is not a physical entity, race has no true basis for discrimination or hierarchy, and a currency has no actual value. They only hold as true because everyone accepts them as true.

...In many people’s view of the global economic crisis, the problem was ‘greed’. Greed is not the problem, it is but a symptom of the disease that is ‘power’; which, like a cancer, expands and kills its host. Humanity is entering what will likely be the most turbulent period in human history. The future is not yet written; all that is certain is that everything will change. What it comes down to is the greatest human struggle in the history of our small little planet: the struggle of the world’s people – in every corner of the world, from every religion, ‘race’, ethnicity, ideology, language, sex, gender and variation – against a global power elite who control the most advanced, technological, and lethal tools of oppression every conceived. Make no mistake, we are not repeating history, we are making it.

True peace will never be possible with a singular global power structure; for once power is globally centralized, what more can the powerful seek to achieve? Thus, the powerful fight each other for control of the centralized authority, paranoia governs their minds, and distrust and hatred directs their actions. Power subsequently becomes its own worst enemy, as it eats away at its host and destroys the body within which it lives.
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19951

Great articles..... important to read

[witchy1]

I also loved how to wipe your credit card debt and that the courts have decided that digital input of numbers is not legal proof of having provided a loan. http://creditcarddebtprotection.com/ & http://shieldedcircle.com/phil. You could just go spend up then run to them to have it wiped - *evil laugh*. At last you can get one up on them

Wonder if thats available in Australia....

[Steven]

...Is the US in an income tax revolt? I've heard 'yes' and 'no' from a variety of sources. I would like to know if anyone has any information. Thanks.

Hi Shezbeth,

I don't think their is a tax revolt from the middle class yet, but it seems the congress (in general) is more inclined to cut taxes to the oligarchy of "rich in money" people. Listen to this speech from Bernie Sanders.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq1zpHF0J04

There are quite interesting options at hand, here is an awesome one: Freedom - from Veronica of the Chapman family http://www.yourstrawman.com/VeronicaChapman.pdf

If the people begin to apply what is presented in this small book, their is no need for violence, we got the LAW on our side and lawfully can breakdown the wall. At least, it present how illusory and fictional are all the rules of the elites of "merchants".

Namaste, Steven