Preparing to Confront the After Life ?Trap?

[Delight]

In the last few years, I have either become more paranoid or a bit more aware of a verity... that the after LIFE is not straight forward "Good" drawing us "home" but a series of pitfalls? AND the story line is all complexified and full of contradictions about "this realm" and spiritual existence.

I have been thinking more about this subject as I see people seemingly harden into a "Christian" or other religious "churchianity" Versus NEW Age. People are concerned maybe rightly that "warriors FOR GOD", religious schisms will be the "excuse" of our civilization's final end.

One of my friends is a serious fundamentalist and I just cannot understand the EDICT that one MUST follow the Bible and Jesus. However, I also do not follow the "Theosophic Mystery School" LINE of suggestion. I am VERY skeptical now about the whole "astral" realm and influence from noncorporal "beings".

IMO the Catholic Church (of Rome) DID construct a religion to control and NOW the Globalists are constructing a new AGE "Tie us up again (re-legion) better", using "occult" teachings. I observe truth is always cobbled with lies and in that same vein, I think TRUTH is discerned in wherever it is embedded IF you have a compass. I feel I have a personal compass. It is almost a visceral "magnet" which repels what is not for me. I try to be in this body, this moment and respond with love. To me, love is a VERB. My choices center on evidencing the most TRUE of me I know in my actions.

Do I have free will? I wonder.

I do know there is almost nothing that I know (mentally) except I exist and FEEL the presence of a power greater than I. This presence does NOT talk to me BUT I do have insights. One lately IS about PREPARE to CONFRONT the After LIFE.

The first video is "The WPP (Wes Penre Papers), The Grid & The Light"

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[wondering]

Thanks, Delight, I, too, have moved from a position of being clear on what to expect after life, to knowing that I don't "know" anything for sure. I find myself wondering what my husband, Ron, experienced when he crossed over a year or so ago...I remember clearly the day after he died, and for a couple days after that, feeling so much joy and light around my heart space. Since he had told me he would let me know that all was well, I took that understanding from it - that he was indeed well and reassuring me of that. Recently I read that in some belief systems, it is not until the body is buried or cremated that the soul even begins to move on. 😳
So, what's even true, and how would we begin to know? I do believe that it is in my power to align myself with Good as I know and understand it, and that is my ultimate intention. And I believe that that Good is who I am, and what happens when I die will unfold accordingly. There is just nothing else to be done because "figuring it out" is just a series of guesses...and in a way, I really don't need to figure it out. If the ultimate power is good, why would I fear being trapped and having "gotten it wrong". that's where I am, for today!

[Delight]

I want the time NOW to be one where we will have the ability to ask the questions that matter to us... for now and for ever. I have the experience of being able to question MORE and not be dismayed. We will each die. I suspect that by questioning what that IS, it is much more a transition where I can remain aware.

I am feeling as if I have presence in my life that is HERE for me. My plan at death is to feel the spirit rope and go where that leads. It has a specific FEEL. Howdie Mickoski holds value today to hear....

Exiting the Demiurge' Simulation

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At the beginning of the conversation posted below, Howard Mickoski shares that internet searches now are very directed. If you know the exact name of a website etc., it is likely still available but a general search will never show it. In a way, this is how it always was in my experience when attempting to find information (as in a library) concerning the issue of whatever I was seeking. If you have no clue, you remain clueless about subjects.

Escaping the Matrix, NPC's & the Reincarnation Soul Battery Farm w/ Howdie Mickoski

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[Delight]

Since the very first David Icke book I read in the 1990's he makes great sense in much of what I read. Has anyone read The Trap or The Dream? His presentation of The Dream is the antidote to the Trap.

Here is a reading of the book The Dream (https://archive.org/details/13-the-dream-the-extraordinary-revelation-of-who-we-are-and-where-we-are/12+-+The+Dream+The+Extraordinary+Revelation+of+Who+We+Are+and+Where+We+Are.mp3)

here is a conversation about the book. I think this is relevant to consider when approaching OUR CERTAIN death from here to WHERE?

Aug 21, 2023

The Dream – And How To Escape Its Illusions – David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast

This is a must watch for those who wish to break free from the illusions of this crazy reality, which seems to be designed to induce low vibrating thoughts and emotions. Ever wondered why we have to keep reincarnating on this planet? Are we trapped here? Memory wipes between lives? David Icke goes deep down the rabbit hole.

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[Jim_Duyer]

Well, my thoughts on the afterlife are probably different than most believe - my only personal experience was with very clear impressions of having lived before - so I have to put reincarnation on the table.
As to Christian Fundamentalists - yes, they are sometimes just beyond the border of strict.
But if you gave me 15 minutes, and i talked really slowly, i could convince even them that they do not
really wish to return after death to the Heaven that is disclosed in the Biblical texts.

All of this is based on actual verses in the text, so here goes.
1) We will, they tell us, have new bodies. No need for our old wrecked ones. But if you examine this, it means that we will not recognize our friends and family that have passed over before us - small chance of that.
2) There will be no need to eat. Bummer. And to drink. So no alcoholic beverages, smoking, wine coolers, beer, but especially no coffee or tea.
3) There is no marriage - angels don't marry, but also there will be no sex.
4) So what pray tell, would we occupy our time with, given the lack of one through four above?
5) All day, every day, we will sing the praises of the Lord. Over and over. And over.
I have never gotten a tattoo because there is not much that I can think of that I would appreciate as a youth and as an old sucker - or anything that I would like to do my entire life, let alone doing the same thing every day. So that one is out for me as well.
It doesn't seem to match the popular ideas of spending eternity with your loved ones, enjoying the heavenly delights, and just kicking back and being good people for eternity, while floating on some cloudy area guarded by gates.
You won't need the gates to keep me out - thank you very much.

[TrumanCash]

In the last few years, I have either become more paranoid or a bit more aware of a verity... that the after LIFE is not straight forward "Good" drawing us "home" but a series of pitfalls? AND the story line is all complexified and full of contradictions about "this realm" and spiritual existence.

I have been thinking more about this subject as I see people seemingly harden into a "Christian" or other religious "churchianity" Versus NEW Age. People are concerned maybe rightly that "warriors FOR GOD", religious schisms will be the "excuse" of our civilization's final end.

One of my friends is a serious fundamentalist and I just cannot understand the EDICT that one MUST follow the Bible and Jesus. However, I also do not follow the "Theosophic Mystery School" LINE of suggestion. I am VERY skeptical now about the whole "astral" realm and influence from noncorporal "beings".

IMO the Catholic Church (of Rome) DID construct a religion to control and NOW the Globalists are constructing a new AGE "Tie us up again (re-legion) better", using "occult" teachings. I observe truth is always cobbled with lies and in that same vein, I think TRUTH is discerned in wherever it is embedded IF you have a compass. I feel I have a personal compass. It is almost a visceral "magnet" which repels what is not for me. I try to be in this body, this moment and respond with love. To me, love is a VERB. My choices center on evidencing the most TRUE of me I know in my actions.

Do I have free will? I wonder.

I do know there is almost nothing that I know (mentally) except I exist and FEEL the presence of a power greater than I. This presence does NOT talk to me BUT I do have insights. One lately IS about PREPARE to CONFRONT the After LIFE.

The first video is "The WPP (Wes Penre Papers), The Grid & The Light"

v1p73bc/?pub=mpxgj

Excellent video, Delight. Thank you for posting this.

For those who have read my books, especially the Eye of Ra, you would know what I have experienced on this matter. I shy away from being pedantic as this video reveals there are many viewpoints on this subject, often contradicting each other. I can only share my own journey of discovery on these subjects.

I was basically raised with the Christian perspective until I started questioning the Heaven/Hell narrative and openly talking about the past lives phenomenon. I was told--or rather sharply scolded--by the preacher's wife that it was a blasphemy to even talk about past lives. Soon thereafter the rumor circulated among the parishioners that I was a "devil worshipper". That's when I and the Christian church parted ways. From then forward it was my intention to find the truth of the matter.

One of my main takeaways from the Bible was the idea that if one seeks the truth and finds it, it can set one free. Since my youth I just wanted to find out who I was and what is really going on. So I began my path of truth seeking at an early age. So I gradually began to question "authority". Consequently, I had to admire this lady's ability to question "authority". I don't know who she was, though.

I agreed with most of her analysis of channeling, new age belief systems, etc, because my experiences revealed that we Earth humans were being programmed with lies and deceptions.

When I realized that I was being abducted by otherworldly beings over thirty years ago, I just wanted to why I was being abducted and what was really going on. That's when I started to go deep down the rabbit hole. At that time I didn't even know what a "Gray" was or how deep the rabbit hole goes. I just stumbled into it.

I eventually discovered that abductees were followed from lifetime to lifetime and sometimes placed in positions of authority in government, military, secret societies and religions. Then the between lives experiences began to show up. I cover that in the chapter "In-Between Lives Implants and Out of Body Abductions" (p. 98 of the PDF, links below). I eventually was able to connect four main ET groups, Mantis, Anunnaki, Grays and Reptilians, in a conspiracy to keep mankind in spiritual darkness.

In all the memories I uncovered about going to the light, I found myself in a mothership wherein I was programmed by Mantis (disguised as "light beings') and then forced into another body or sent as a being back to Earth where I was guided into another body (of their choice, not mine).

Here is an excerpt of their programming while in the mothership. My then wife was taking notes, recording the session and asking questions:

"At first I thought they were LIGHT BEINGS. These are the praying mantis guys! They take me into the misty LIGHT. I'm being programmed: 'PEACE, REST-soothing whispering in my mind. The words: 'GOD LOVES YOU. PEACE IN THE LIGHT. ' I'm being programmed that I'm with GOD now.
'ALWAYS RETURN TO THE LIGHT. ' I can see why people think going to the LIGHT is good, because it FEELS good. 'I WILL BEGIN A NEW LIFE NOW. THE OLD IS PASSED AWAY. YOU'LL BE SAFE IN THE LIGHT. YOU CAN ALWAYS COME TO THE LIGHT. ' You feel like you're really loved, and you're really special." (When I said 'really loved' and 'really special,' I said it in a soothing, but sarcastic tone. Their programming is very sweet, but very insincere and phony. I have observed the same kind of syrupy sweet, deceitful rhetoric from the channeled Pleiadians.) "So I'm taken out (of the big WHITE LIGHT room). I get the impression that they are LIGHT BEINGS, but they're not! "

"What is a LIGHT BEING?"

"A body that is just LIGHT. But it's not. They're the insect guys! I go to the hangar where the 'eyes' are. I sit down in the saucer. · (Apparently, the insectoids were using telepathic hypnosis to create the illusion that they were light beings.)"

In the Eye of Ra I always capitalized the words "WHITE LIGHT" because that is the common denominator that was used in virtually all the programming and in their technology.

I have been able to verify my memories in the Mantis motherships. I was sent down from a Mantis mothership right before my birth. I remember looking at the hospital in Spokane Washington (Sacred Heart) from the west and looking eastward at the hospital. It was a brick building. However, Sacred Heart Hospital does not look like that in modern times. They apparently put stucco on it and built onto it since I was born into this body. I was therefore confused because I remembered it to be a brick building before I entered the hospital and this current incarnation. So I asked the receptionist if there were any pictures of what the hospital looked like in 1949. She said yes and told me where to find that room. Lo and behold, I found a 1950 photo that showed it was indeed a brick building. On top of that it was a photo taken of the west side and it looked exactly like my memory of it!

I then entered my mother's womb in the delivery room and went down the birth canal toward the LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL. Get it? (They get you coming and going, LOL)

BTW, my mother was also an abductee along with one sister and one brother, which appears to explain why abductions run in families.

The only way I could have uncovered the matrix in which we are in is through past life research and experiences. I worked with about forty other abductees as well and have confirmed that my experiences were not just mine.

As I have always said, anyone can do the same research I did with abductees and discover the same phenomena. If I were not an abductee myself and interested in the past life phenomenon, I would have never discovered how much we have been manipulated.

And May The Truth Set Us Free,
Truman L Cash

[shaberon]

IMO the Catholic Church (of Rome) DID construct a religion to control and NOW the Globalists are constructing a new AGE "Tie us up again (re-legion) better", using "occult" teachings.


Just to disturb you even more greatly.

I of course agree the RCC is its own Beast, of which we are very familiar with the "Inquisition" type of mentality. One of the main arguments against the institution is her doctrine of Infallibility. This was exercised as recently as around 1879 in attempts to suppress what it calls "Johannite Heresy", which is not heresy, because it is not any kind of Christianity.

But let me suggest that shortly after this, particularly in America, a new strategy was decided upon. The iron-fisted enforcement of their Latin rite was dropped, and, instead, American Jesuits decided to work with "any weak, watered-down form of Jesus".

Well, if that isn't new age, what is.

Now in a long-term vision, the idea is that in future times, these "potential Catholics" will drop their personal beliefs and flock to the RCC. They're just milking it rather than stamping it out.

Of course, Jesuits are the first Globalists in any sense of the term.

Here's the kicker. I cannot possibly be talking about every member of the order, but, the usually higher-ranked political meddlers. Many of its members are normal people. I have known a Jesuit, and I don't think that guy could swat a fly. Probably the last person on earth I would ask to do something sinister for an "Army".

In mission work, it is a wilderness thing, and so, frequently the first Jesuit to appear in an area is a decent guy, and it is later on the shoulders of such missions that Round Two rolls through.

The original mission to China in the 1600s was a bona fide exchange that resulted in the priest taking interest in, and copying a large volume of, Confuscianism.

The only reason there is any kind of "free thought" in Europe--anything other that Catholic diktat--is due to the reception of Confuscianism. In turn, this is called the historical epoch, Enlightenment.

In essence, this is "valid", because it is a good copy of an actual tradition. But, just watch, the validity decreases as the alterations arise--i. e., given the opportunity to "think outside the box", directions are taken that are their own, that do not represent any missing portions from China.

The United Kingdom has never had an Enlightened Monarch; Russia has.

So you are in the aftermath of a squandered acquaintance with a Chinese patriarch.

Actual Theosophy will not point you in any direction other than the classic philosophers and sages, that is to say, a rejection of "new age" in any sense other than "renewed interest" in such "suppressed lore".

Secondly a Jesuit entered Tibet in the 1700s and copied a big chunk of Buddhism. He *personally* says he did not "get it"--in almost exactly the same way as another famous admirer, C. Jung. This did not quite get off to the same start as the Chinese.


What they are not understanding could partly be described as Death Yoga.

Because I have experienced this, I am willing to say it is "true" or does what it says it does.

From this view, I would say you better believe you ought to saturate yourself with Goodness.

That is indeed so you will Feel rather than attempt to know something intellectually.

It is a main core of our training, same as the Vedas, Immortality, or, more correctly, Deathlessness.

[palehorse]

I lost a good friend back in 2000, it was a horrible car accident (not getting in details, it was really ugly - the funeral was just symbolic). If a believe system says the spirit leaves the body only after it is buried, poor my friend he may be in some sort of limbo (if that is a place) now. I don't believe in anything when comes to death, but I do have many suspicions, the closest one for me is what is explained in the Tibetan Book of the Dead (I mean physical death).

Also my own psychedelic experiences not based on religion or any believe system showed wonders and infinity possibilities, I don't think it has anything to do with the intellect, the things I had experienced was not part of any book I had read before and there is no words to describe any of it, we live in a condensed state of matter, we are heavy, but once we leave the matter behind things become lighter and atemporal (anyone can experience that through dreams, astral travel, intentional OBE, etc... many names to describe the same thing).

[Sunny-side-up]

Hello Delight

All I can say for sure is hold to what you would really wish for.

Be your designer, the creator of your future and be happily positive.

No need for fear (False evidence appearing real)

Let the next level be wonderful and not let the unknown bring you down in this stage of your path.

The mind can be a true torturer

:sun:

[Mike]

I'm just as intrigued with the afterlife as everyone else; it's interesting and entertaining to speculate about various things that may or may not occur when we leave these earthy bodies. Totally get it. But as a group, I think we deliberately confuse ourselves more than anyone else about this afterlife phenomena that - based on the evidence - seems pretty clear actually.

People in the alt community, members here in particular, have been served well by their willingness to question nearly everything. And I'd expect nothing less when it comes to this topic. But after all the questioning has been said and done, a pretty clear picture emerges ..a wonderful and reassuring one actually, corroborated by thousands and thousands of NDE experiencers. And I never quite understand why we're willing to forfeit it all in favor of hypothesis' like, "Avoid the light because it's alien sleight of hand!":)

I don't know how many books I've read on this topic.. 3 or 4 perhaps. Between the ones I've read and listened to on YouTube or wherever, I've easily been exposed to hundreds of these NDE testimonials. There are of course varying details in some of them, but the great majority follow a pretty predictable pattern. People return from these journeys convinced, without a shadow of a doubt, that a) there's a God, b) we're all deeply loved by this being, and c) this God has provided a safe, loving, and endlessly adventurous place for our souls once we leave our earthly bodies. No mention of a trap.

If I had to guess, I've researched maybe 300 of these NDE's. And not a single one of them mentioned anything about a trap. Not one. And out of those roughly 300 testimonials, only one has mentioned an alien entity being involved (he said it looked identical to the one's in the movie based on Whitley Strieber's book 'Communion', but not the greys .. the little mongrel looking ones) and it was an entirely benevolent experience.

Here it is for anyone that's interested:
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A significant percentage of NDE'rs mention meeting Jesus. I know the prevailing theory here is that spiritual beings take specific forms to match the individual's expectations, but I don't recall ever hearing about an NDE where the experiencer met Muhammed, or Buddha, or Krishna, or (fill in the blank here). I'm not saying it hasn't happened. I'm simply saying I've never heard of it.

I don't know how accurate this is, but one well-known researcher (name eludes me, sorry) said something like 20% of NDE's are hell-related. I have heard some of these testimonies, but just a few. 20% seems a little excessive to me.

But not one has said anything about a trap, for what it's worth.

[norman]

We have, by now, conclusive evidence that 'we' pop up in this world in more than one lifetime.

That, for me, is proof that we have a beingness that is both beyond this manifestation and, importantly, longer term ( if time means anything ) than our lifetime of learning and growing etc.

Just simple logic, once all that is established, tells me that all things spiritual, including what I call faith and some call knowing, are rooted beyond this world's computational manifestations. We can think up and dream up all sorts of things, including making stabs at philosophical spirituality substitutes (religions etc) for the real stuff beyond this realm, but non of it can be taken with us when we leave, and it seems we can't reactivate it if we return.

Everything points towards an unknown somewhere else, and that somewhere else being primary while 'here' is secondary.

[TrumanCash]

I certainly can understand why some people believe that NDE experiencers believe what they experienced was real and do not even question whether it was an illusion. That is because they have no reality regarding the abducting ETs ability for mind control, whether in-body or out of body. Over thirty years ago I discovered their ability to control humans through an ability that I termed "telepathic hypnosis". I later read about this ability in Billy Meier's Contact Notes that the Pleiadians called it "telenosis", a contraction of "telepathic hypnosis".

But I certainly was not the first person to encounter this ET ability. The work with abductees by Barbara Bartholic and Karla Turner uncovered this ability before I ever knew about it myself. Karla Turner exposed this ability in her books, especially "Masquerade of Angels". As I have mentioned before I even was fooled into believing I was seeing a young naked blonde woman in a DUMB when it was actually a tall Gray using telepathic hypnosis to control my mind and perceptions. The illusion will disappear by going through the abduction incident about three times. It is the same process that caused the "Light Being" mind control by Mantis to disappear. It is an illusion.

When humans are in a state of hypnosis their memories and perceptions can be easily manipulated. Stage hypnotism is an example of this. However, I am at a loss as to how abducting ETs can perform this kind of mind control via telepathy, except to say that they first use technology to put the human in a state of hypnosis. In an in-body abduction the abduction begins with a bright flash of white light. Pure technology. The tunnel that sucks up the soul/spirit/beingness of a person in an NDE is also pure technology. I am very familiar with this technology and have experienced it many times. And each time at the end of the tunnel was a Mantis mothership.

That's where I first learned about the Mantis technology of soul transference where they can transfer a soul/spirit/consciousness--whatever term you might feel comfortable using--from one body to another. This is how they create the artificial reincarnation system for this planet. Also, if you're already out of body as in an NDE they can just implant the illusion of seeing your relatives or whatever illusion they want to implant in you and then simply send you back into your body. It's technology plus the spiritual/psychic abilities of ETs that have been suppressed in Earth humans. In a nutshell, we have been dumbed down spiritually.

When I sent my books to Linda Moulton Howe she was also skeptical about this technology and my experiences, but she finally learned about it from other abductees so she finally understood it. I do understand how difficult it is for Earth humans to understand something that has been hidden from us for such a long time and that these ETs can virtually live forever and transfer from an old body to a new body without losing consciousness or the memory of who they are.

In the opening post video the narrator questioned how channeled entities always discourage people from exploring past lives. Past life research and experiences are the key to opening up this whole illusion that we live in. The blocking of memories from lifetime to lifetime keeps us from understanding what they do not want us to know.

ETs have the technology and psychic ability to channel messages to channelers and it appears that ET AI is also involved with it. This is just one form of mind control that manipulative ETs have been using since time immemorial to keep us in spiritual darkness. They constantly use the programming tool of "LIGHT" and "WHITE LIGHT" in their messages and invite us to be "LIGHT WORKERS", seek
"ILLUMINation", enLIGHTenment, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

The channeled "Pleiadians" that I had contact with via a channeler, personally trained by Barbara Marciniak, identified themselves as "Illumins". Through repeated "channelings" they eventualy revealed that they were not actually "Pleiadians" and that they were from the future. They told me lies that I personally was able to reveal, which I detailed in "The Eye of Ra".

Historically, the prefix "ILLU" (Also, spelled "ILU") were also Anunnaki in the middle east who also said they were the "Ilu". They go by numerous names around the world throughout time. Oh, what a tangled web they weave.

[palehorse]

I certainly can understand why some people believe that NDE experiencers believe what they experienced was real and do not even question whether it was an illusion. That is because they have no reality regarding the abducting ETs ability for mind control, whether in-body or out of body. Over thirty years ago I discovered their ability to control humans through an ability that I termed "telepathic hypnosis". I later read about this ability in Billy Meier's Contact Notes that the Pleiadians called it "telenosis", a contraction of "telepathic hypnosis".

But I certainly was not the first person to encounter this ET ability. The work with abductees by Barbara Bartholic and Karla Turner uncovered this ability before I ever knew about it myself. Karla Turner exposed this ability in her books, especially "Masquerade of Angels". As I have mentioned before I even was fooled into believing I was seeing a young naked blonde woman in a DUMB when it was actually a tall Gray using telepathic hypnosis to control my mind and perceptions. The illusion will disappear by going through the abduction incident about three times. It is the same process that caused the "Light Being" mind control by Mantis to disappear. It is an illusion.

When humans are in a state of hypnosis their memories and perceptions can be easily manipulated. Stage hypnotism is an example of this. However, I am at a loss as to how abducting ETs can perform this kind of mind control via telepathy, except to say that they first use technology to put the human in a state of hypnosis. In an in-body abduction the abduction begins with a bright flash of white light. Pure technology. The tunnel that sucks up the soul/spirit/beingness of a person in an NDE is also pure technology. I am very familiar with this technology and have experienced it many times. And each time at the end of the tunnel was a Mantis mothership.

That's where I first learned about the Mantis technology of soul transference where they can transfer a soul/spirit/consciousness--whatever term you might feel comfortable using--from one body to another. This is how they create the artificial reincarnation system for this planet. Also, if you're already out of body as in an NDE they can just implant the illusion of seeing your relatives or whatever illusion they want to implant in you and then simply send you back into your body. It's technology plus the spiritual/psychic abilities of ETs that have been suppressed in Earth humans. In a nutshell, we have been dumbed down spiritually.

When I sent my books to Linda Moulton Howe she was also skeptical about this technology and my experiences, but she finally learned about it from other abductees so she finally understood it. I do understand how difficult it is for Earth humans to understand something that has been hidden from us for such a long time and that these ETs can virtually live forever and transfer from an old body to a new body without losing consciousness or the memory of who they are.

In the opening post video the narrator questioned how channeled entities always discourage people from exploring past lives. Past life research and experiences are the key to opening up this whole illusion that we live in. The blocking of memories from lifetime to lifetime keeps us from understanding what they do not want us to know.

ETs have the technology and psychic ability to channel messages to channelers and it appears that ET AI is also involved with it. This is just one form of mind control that manipulative ETs have been using since time immemorial to keep us in spiritual darkness. They constantly use the programming tool of "LIGHT" and "WHITE LIGHT" in their messages and invite us to be "LIGHT WORKERS", etc, etc, ad nauseum.



Hi Truman, pardon my ignorance, I didn't read your books yet, hence the question: Is there a way to block their manipulation, is there any earth compound that interfere or block their signals effectively?

[TrumanCash]

I certainly can understand why some people believe that NDE experiencers believe what they experienced was real and do not even question whether it was an illusion. That is because they have no reality regarding the abducting ETs ability for mind control, whether in-body or out of body. Over thirty years ago I discovered their ability to control humans through an ability that I termed "telepathic hypnosis". I later read about this ability in Billy Meier's Contact Notes that the Pleiadians called it "telenosis", a contraction of "telepathic hypnosis".

But I certainly was not the first person to encounter this ET ability. The work with abductees by Barbara Bartholic and Karla Turner uncovered this ability before I ever knew about it myself. Karla Turner exposed this ability in her books, especially "Masquerade of Angels". As I have mentioned before I even was fooled into believing I was seeing a young naked blonde woman in a DUMB when it was actually a tall Gray using telepathic hypnosis to control my mind and perceptions. The illusion will disappear by going through the abduction incident about three times. It is the same process that caused the "Light Being" mind control by Mantis to disappear. It is an illusion.

When humans are in a state of hypnosis their memories and perceptions can be easily manipulated. Stage hypnotism is an example of this. However, I am at a loss as to how abducting ETs can perform this kind of mind control via telepathy, except to say that they first use technology to put the human in a state of hypnosis. In an in-body abduction the abduction begins with a bright flash of white light. Pure technology. The tunnel that sucks up the soul/spirit/beingness of a person in an NDE is also pure technology. I am very familiar with this technology and have experienced it many times. And each time at the end of the tunnel was a Mantis mothership.

That's where I first learned about the Mantis technology of soul transference where they can transfer a soul/spirit/consciousness--whatever term you might feel comfortable using--from one body to another. This is how they create the artificial reincarnation system for this planet. Also, if you're already out of body as in an NDE they can just implant the illusion of seeing your relatives or whatever illusion they want to implant in you and then simply send you back into your body. It's technology plus the spiritual/psychic abilities of ETs that have been suppressed in Earth humans. In a nutshell, we have been dumbed down spiritually.

When I sent my books to Linda Moulton Howe she was also skeptical about this technology and my experiences, but she finally learned about it from other abductees so she finally understood it. I do understand how difficult it is for Earth humans to understand something that has been hidden from us for such a long time and that these ETs can virtually live forever and transfer from an old body to a new body without losing consciousness or the memory of who they are.

In the opening post video the narrator questioned how channeled entities always discourage people from exploring past lives. Past life research and experiences are the key to opening up this whole illusion that we live in. The blocking of memories from lifetime to lifetime keeps us from understanding what they do not want us to know.

ETs have the technology and psychic ability to channel messages to channelers and it appears that ET AI is also involved with it. This is just one form of mind control that manipulative ETs have been using since time immemorial to keep us in spiritual darkness. They constantly use the programming tool of "LIGHT" and "WHITE LIGHT" in their messages and invite us to be "LIGHT WORKERS", etc, etc, ad nauseum.



Hi Truman, pardon my ignorance, I didn't read your books yet, hence the question: Is there a way to block their manipulation, is there any earth compound that interfere or block their signals effectively?

Thanks for the question, palehorse. That's a very good question. Unfortunately, I did not answer that question in my books because I don't have any answer for it. Wish I did.

First of all, I should mention that not everyone goes to the light upon death. Some people just hang around such as ghosts in a house. Others simply instinctively go to a hospital or find a pregnant mother and come back naturally.

It appears to me that certain people are "chosen" for NDEs and between-lives abductions to the Mantis motherships. Indeed, as far as abductees are concerned, we are actually told by Grays that we are "chosen ones", as if to flatter us and make us feel "special". And I say this with a significant measure of well-earned sarcasm.

I only worked with abductees and never ran across and NDE experiencer with which to do research. I could do that if an NDE experiencer wanted me to help unblock any memories regarding the experience. It would be very interesting to do that and I am very willing to engage in that research even though I have a lot of irons in the fire, as it were.

All my experiences with Mantis were death experiences, not "near death". That is, my body died, I went out of body through the tunnel toward the light. In one instance I actually saw where I entered the Mantis mothership. It was a concave circular surface on a round mothership. Of course, NDE experiencers do not see this. They only see and remember the illusion(s) (i.e., telepathic implants) that the Mantis implant in their minds.

The funny thing about this concave surface on the round mothership is that it looks almost exactly like the "death star" in the Star Wars movies! This may be coincidence or the author of the story or screen play knew or was told to depict the "Death Star" in this fashion. Or perhaps the author was unconsciously writing this into the movie script because he'd been there between lives. Who knows?

Anyway, I digress. Back to the question. This is my question, too, so I can only speculate on the solution to the problem. Since I obviously want to terminate the reincarnation cycle into which I was placed some twelve thousand three hundred plus years ago by the Mantis without my consent, I sincerely want to find out the answer to that question because I do not want my memory wiped again.

I spent a big portion of my life this lifetime uncovering the alien matrix of Earth so I certainly don't want to be recycled again back on this insane (but beautiful) planet. So what I have been doing is simply preparing myself for this eventuality by strengthening my resolve not to comply and simply not go down that phu king tunnel. That's the best I can figure out now.

I do understand their basic motive behind their actions in creating and manipulating an artificial reincarnation system for certain inhabitants of Earth, but I do not agree with the way they are doing it. Their idea is simply to dumb us down and manipulate us via mind control in their conspiracy with the Anunnaki, Grays and Reptilians and other minor groups. It appears that various ET groups have their own agendas as well.

My question why don't they reveal the truth and help us to understand why they are doing what they do. They could help us instead of suppressing us if they wanted to.

When Simon Parkes was on Avalon he indicated that he agreed with what the Mantis were doing and even wanted to be one. This is where I part ways with Simon. He specifically referred to this reincarnation motherships as "processing" centers without explaining what he meant. He also said he wanted to be a Mantid. (In the US we use the word "Mantis" while the British say "Mantid".)

It has been said that the Mantis/Mantids are sometimes called "the ancients". This may well be the case because they possess the "soul transference technology" which Linda Moulton Howe refers to as "reincarnation technology". Frankly, Linda, I prefer my term better, but we are talking about the same thing. I've experienced it many times so I am very familiar with it.

This begs the question: Why aren't we allowed to have access to this technology?

Anyone out there want to live forever and not have your memory wiped so you can learn from your own experiences from all your past lives? Duh! :facepalm:

[Mike]

I certainly can understand why some people believe that NDE experiencers believe what they experienced was real and do not even question whether it was an illusion. That is because they have no reality regarding the abducting ETs ability for mind control, whether in-body or out of body. Over thirty years ago I discovered their ability to control humans through an ability that I termed "telepathic hypnosis". I later read about this ability in Billy Meier's Contact Notes that the Pleiadians called it "telenosis", a contraction of "telepathic hypnosis".

But I certainly was not the first person to encounter this ET ability. The work with abductees by Barbara Bartholic and Karla Turner uncovered this ability before I ever knew about it myself. Karla Turner exposed this ability in her books, especially "Masquerade of Angels". As I have mentioned before I even was fooled into believing I was seeing a young naked blonde woman in a DUMB when it was actually a tall Gray using telepathic hypnosis to control my mind and perceptions. The illusion will disappear by going through the abduction incident about three times. It is the same process that caused the "Light Being" mind control by Mantis to disappear. It is an illusion.

When humans are in a state of hypnosis their memories and perceptions can be easily manipulated. Stage hypnotism is an example of this. However, I am at a loss as to how abducting ETs can perform this kind of mind control via telepathy, except to say that they first use technology to put the human in a state of hypnosis. In an in-body abduction the abduction begins with a bright flash of white light. Pure technology. The tunnel that sucks up the soul/spirit/beingness of a person in an NDE is also pure technology. I am very familiar with this technology and have experienced it many times. And each time at the end of the tunnel was a Mantis mothership.

That's where I first learned about the Mantis technology of soul transference where they can transfer a soul/spirit/consciousness--whatever term you might feel comfortable using--from one body to another. This is how they create the artificial reincarnation system for this planet. Also, if you're already out of body as in an NDE they can just implant the illusion of seeing your relatives or whatever illusion they want to implant in you and then simply send you back into your body. It's technology plus the spiritual/psychic abilities of ETs that have been suppressed in Earth humans. In a nutshell, we have been dumbed down spiritually.

When I sent my books to Linda Moulton Howe she was also skeptical about this technology and my experiences, but she finally learned about it from other abductees so she finally understood it. I do understand how difficult it is for Earth humans to understand something that has been hidden from us for such a long time and that these ETs can virtually live forever and transfer from an old body to a new body without losing consciousness or the memory of who they are.

In the opening post video the narrator questioned how channeled entities always discourage people from exploring past lives. Past life research and experiences are the key to opening up this whole illusion that we live in. The blocking of memories from lifetime to lifetime keeps us from understanding what they do not want us to know.

ETs have the technology and psychic ability to channel messages to channelers and it appears that ET AI is also involved with it. This is just one form of mind control that manipulative ETs have been using since time immemorial to keep us in spiritual darkness. They constantly use the programming tool of "LIGHT" and "WHITE LIGHT" in their messages and invite us to be "LIGHT WORKERS", seek
"ILLUMINation", etc, etc, ad nauseum.

The channeled "Pleiadians" that I had contact with via a channeler, personally trained by Barbara Marciniak, identified themselves as "Illumins". Through repeated "channelings" they eventualy revealed that they were not actually "Pleiadians" and that they were from the future. They told me lies that I personally was able to reveal, which I detailed in "The Eye of Ra".

Historically, the prefix "ILLU" (Also, spelled "ILU") were also Anunnaki in the middle east who also said they were the "Ilu". They go by numerous names around the world throughout time. Oh, what a tangled web they weave.



Hi Truman, I have some familiarity with Barbara Bartholic and Karla Turner (thru James Bartley) and am aware of some of the things you've written about here.

And I take it very seriously by the way. I think it's fascinating. And I'd be pleased to read your book as well.

But just as a quick thought experiment here:

If the E.T.'s are as clever and advanced technologically and spiritually as we are assuming, and are able to mind-control humans both in and out of body, wouldn't it be just as easy for them to convince you - an abductee - that everything you've just written in this thread is true.. when perhaps it isn't?

You mentioned you were fooled into seeing a naked blond woman when in reality is was a tall grey. My question is: how do you know with any kind of certainty that it was a tall grey? Perhaps you were being manipulated again in some way? Perhaps it was something else entirely?

This isn't meant as some kind of obnoxious challenge or anything. I respect your knowledge and experience, but these are the questions that immediately spring to my mind.

[TrumanCash]

I certainly can understand why some people believe that NDE experiencers believe what they experienced was real and do not even question whether it was an illusion. That is because they have no reality regarding the abducting ETs ability for mind control, whether in-body or out of body. Over thirty years ago I discovered their ability to control humans through an ability that I termed "telepathic hypnosis". I later read about this ability in Billy Meier's Contact Notes that the Pleiadians called it "telenosis", a contraction of "telepathic hypnosis".

But I certainly was not the first person to encounter this ET ability. The work with abductees by Barbara Bartholic and Karla Turner uncovered this ability before I ever knew about it myself. Karla Turner exposed this ability in her books, especially "Masquerade of Angels". As I have mentioned before I even was fooled into believing I was seeing a young naked blonde woman in a DUMB when it was actually a tall Gray using telepathic hypnosis to control my mind and perceptions. The illusion will disappear by going through the abduction incident about three times. It is the same process that caused the "Light Being" mind control by Mantis to disappear. It is an illusion.

When humans are in a state of hypnosis their memories and perceptions can be easily manipulated. Stage hypnotism is an example of this. However, I am at a loss as to how abducting ETs can perform this kind of mind control via telepathy, except to say that they first use technology to put the human in a state of hypnosis. In an in-body abduction the abduction begins with a bright flash of white light. Pure technology. The tunnel that sucks up the soul/spirit/beingness of a person in an NDE is also pure technology. I am very familiar with this technology and have experienced it many times. And each time at the end of the tunnel was a Mantis mothership.

That's where I first learned about the Mantis technology of soul transference where they can transfer a soul/spirit/consciousness--whatever term you might feel comfortable using--from one body to another. This is how they create the artificial reincarnation system for this planet. Also, if you're already out of body as in an NDE they can just implant the illusion of seeing your relatives or whatever illusion they want to implant in you and then simply send you back into your body. It's technology plus the spiritual/psychic abilities of ETs that have been suppressed in Earth humans. In a nutshell, we have been dumbed down spiritually.

When I sent my books to Linda Moulton Howe she was also skeptical about this technology and my experiences, but she finally learned about it from other abductees so she finally understood it. I do understand how difficult it is for Earth humans to understand something that has been hidden from us for such a long time and that these ETs can virtually live forever and transfer from an old body to a new body without losing consciousness or the memory of who they are.

In the opening post video the narrator questioned how channeled entities always discourage people from exploring past lives. Past life research and experiences are the key to opening up this whole illusion that we live in. The blocking of memories from lifetime to lifetime keeps us from understanding what they do not want us to know.

ETs have the technology and psychic ability to channel messages to channelers and it appears that ET AI is also involved with it. This is just one form of mind control that manipulative ETs have been using since time immemorial to keep us in spiritual darkness. They constantly use the programming tool of "LIGHT" and "WHITE LIGHT" in their messages and invite us to be "LIGHT WORKERS", seek
"ILLUMINation", etc, etc, ad nauseum.

The channeled "Pleiadians" that I had contact with via a channeler, personally trained by Barbara Marciniak, identified themselves as "Illumins". Through repeated "channelings" they eventualy revealed that they were not actually "Pleiadians" and that they were from the future. They told me lies that I personally was able to reveal, which I detailed in "The Eye of Ra".

Historically, the prefix "ILLU" (Also, spelled "ILU") were also Anunnaki in the middle east who also said they were the "Ilu". They go by numerous names around the world throughout time. Oh, what a tangled web they weave.



Hi Truman, I have some familiarity with Barbara Bartholic and Karla Turner (thru James Bartley) and am aware of some of the things you've written about here.

And I take it very seriously by the way. I think it's fascinating. And I'd be pleased to read your book as well.

But just as a quick thought experiment here:

If the E.T.'s are as clever and advanced technologically and spiritually as we are assuming, and are able to mind-control humans both in and out of body, wouldn't it be just as easy for them to convince you - an abductee - that everything you've just written in this thread is true.. when perhaps it isn't?

You mentioned you were fooled into seeing a naked blond woman when in reality is was a tall grey. My question is: how do you know with any kind of certainty that it was a tall grey? Perhaps you were being manipulated again in some way? Perhaps it was something else entirely?

This isn't meant as some kind of obnoxious challenge or anything. I respect your knowledge and experience, but these are the questions that immediately spring to my mind.

Thanks for questioning, Mike. That's where truth seeking begins. Yes, James Bartley is an excellent resource for information on this subject. Also, James Bartley's friend, Eve Lorgen, also is a good source to help confirm these phenomena. She has also read my books and she posted links to my books on her website.

In my own research and experiences I discovered and unraveled the illusions that these nefarious ETs create. That's how I discovered the matrix in which we live.

I didn't just take the "red pill", I took the whole bottle. It took me years to get to the bottom of the rabbit hole. I do not want anyone to believe me. Unless you first understand the research I did and then undergo this research yourself you will not really see it and understand it. My books detail how I was able to do this.

The answer to your question lies in another question: Are you willing to go down the rabbit hole yourself? Are you really willing to take the red pill?

It's about not being a spectator or speculator. Everyone has to do this individually to see through the illusions. I don't see it any other way. You can read abduction books about "screen memories" to know that the abilities of manipulating ETs to project screen memories are a reality. However, I'm just reporting what I know personally in this respect and that's all I can do. It's up to you to decide whether you want to do the necessary research to satisfy your curiosity. For me truth seeking is a way of life. And by the way truth seeking is an activity that never ends nor should it. Keep questioning.

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In the last few years, I have either become more paranoid or a bit more aware of a verity... that the after LIFE is not straight forward "Good" drawing us "home" but a series of pitfalls? AND the story line is all complexified and full of contradictions about "this realm" and spiritual existence.

I have been thinking more about this subject as I see people seemingly harden into a "Christian" or other religious "churchianity" Versus NEW Age. People are concerned maybe rightly that "warriors FOR GOD", religious schisms will be the "excuse" of our civilization's final end.

One of my friends is a serious fundamentalist and I just cannot understand the EDICT that one MUST follow the Bible and Jesus. However, I also do not follow the "Theosophic Mystery School" LINE of suggestion. I am VERY skeptical now about the whole "astral" realm and influence from noncorporal "beings".

IMO the Catholic Church (of Rome) DID construct a religion to control and NOW the Globalists are constructing a new AGE "Tie us up again (re-legion) better", using "occult" teachings. I observe truth is always cobbled with lies and in that same vein, I think TRUTH is discerned in wherever it is embedded IF you have a compass. I feel I have a personal compass. It is almost a visceral "magnet" which repels what is not for me. I try to be in this body, this moment and respond with love. To me, love is a VERB. My choices center on evidencing the most TRUE of me I know in my actions.

Do I have free will? I wonder.

I do know there is almost nothing that I know (mentally) except I exist and FEEL the presence of a power greater than I. This presence does NOT talk to me BUT I do have insights. One lately IS about PREPARE to CONFRONT the After LIFE.

The first video is "The WPP (Wes Penre Papers), The Grid & The Light"


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[TrumanCash]

I would also like to add to my previous post that questioning is, in my experience, the next level above just being a spectator or speculator. The next step is to actively pursue the understanding of the matrix in which we live. I would like to recommend reading my research that I documented three decades ago that is contained in my two books, "The Programming of a Planet" and "The Eye of Ra" as a beginning point. Even researchers like Linda Moulton Howe has finally realized what I was reporting in the mid 90s when I sent her copies of my books.

When I first began contemplating how I would write down my research and experiences I thought I would just write about what I had experience and uncovered. Then I realized I needed to write down the research itself by simply transcribing the memory unblocking sessions that I had with other abductees along with the memories that I myself had uncovered. I felt that this would present a more scientific approach rather than just another abductee story.

I never made a penny on my books and they are free for anyone to read. It was never just about me. I don't go on video platforms, etc, or try to be a personality to fuel my ego or join the YouTube circus. I realized that what I stumbled into was more important for me to document for humanity's sake. However, I soon realized thirty years ago the masses were not ready to go that deep down the rabbit hole. I do no think they are ready for it now, either. People have been so programmed that they are not ready to face the matrix in which we all live.

The results of my research reveal the combination of science and spirituality (i.e., psychic abilities) that ETs use to manipulate us, which dovetails with Bill Ryan's motto "where science and spirituality meet". However, most humans are stuck in just being spectators to what is happening or at best speculators instead of actually spending the time to conduct their own independent research such as I have done. I also realized that people must discover the matrix individually for it to be real to them. I don't think it can be done any other way. They have to stop just accepting other people's word for it and stop just believing. For it is BELIEF that mires people in the matrix.

On the other hand I do see a possible beginning of a "great awakening" in that people are beginning to see that they cannot trust "what the government or mainstream media says" and they are beginning to understand that their reality is based on lies and deceptions by "the powers that be" who do not have our best interests in mind. At least that is a beginning. However, they have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes. This is going to take time. Lots of it.

[Mike]

It's about not being a spectator or speculator. Everyone has to do this individually to see through the illusions. I don't see it any other way. You can read abduction books about "screen memories" to know that the abilities of manipulating ETs to project screen memories are a reality. However, I'm just reporting what I know personally in this respect and that's all I can do. It's up to you to decide whether you want to do the necessary research to satisfy your curiosity. For me truth seeking is a way of life. And by the way truth seeking is an activity that never ends nor should it. Keep questioning.

I agree entirely.

I guess the question I'm trying to raise is: who is more likely to have been deceived? The NDE'er who believes entirely in the experience being presented to them, no questions asked? Or the NDE'er who's been led to believe it's all a deception thru experiences with deceptive ET's?

And I'm not offering a definitive answer of any kind. I just think it's a good question to throw out there. I have an opinion, based on what I know so far, but that's it. There's also a lot I don't know.. so the red pill is a process, as you've pointed out. I think I need to read your book.

I have read a bit about screen memories. And my thoughts are: if aliens can create a screen memory, then they can create a screen memory on top of a screen memory, and so on and so forth. And this is the conundrum we find ourselves in when presented with a species that is both very deceptive and very advanced - things may never, ever be quite as they seem. If I arrived at the end of the tunnel of light and saw a Mantis mothership, I might initially think to myself, ah..this reincarnation thing is a farce perpetuated by deceptive aliens, and here's the proof. But then again, having been deceived so many times in the past I might also think, wait, is this yet another trick? And taking it a step further, is there any part of this ET experience I can trust? And taking it a step further still, are these really ET's even?

But as you've said, this is an individual journey. Those like you that have made the journey can offer warnings and advice, but it's up to each individual to make the effort. But I can't help but wonder if a trip down this type of rabbit hole will lead to further enlightenment or further deception. It's a messy business!:)

[Vicus]

Another tale...

To not double post videos, here are some questions/answers...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118145-I-have-come-to-needed-realizations-thru-NDEs&p=1615252&viewfull=1#post1615252

I don't need to say more.

[Ascension]

If I had to guess, I've researched maybe 300 of these NDE's. And not a single one of them mentioned anything about a trap. Not one.



Yes, but how many NDE's included the notion that the individual had no say in what transpires next? How many people conveyed the thought that they did not want to come back yet were pushed back by an unknown authority figure after being love-bombed and coerced? It's amazing actually, that these people have returned with no sense of have been subtlety trapped again. In fact, they wish to spread more "guidance" to the masses by telling their stories.

Apparently there is no free will after death either, unless these individuals were simply allowing whatever they perceive to happen, following some unknown authorities' wishes. How many of them had a preconceived notion of what happens after death, pre-programmed by a life of exposure to this "guidance" we all acquire on earth? We are taught here that "no" means no, but apparently not so post-death. It means yes, I obey, begrudgingly, but I did lodge a complaint!

[Mike]

If I had to guess, I've researched maybe 300 of these NDE's. And not a single one of them mentioned anything about a trap. Not one.



Yes, but how many NDE's included the notion that the individual had no say in what transpires next? How many people conveyed the thought that they did not want to come back yet were pushed back by an unknown authority figure after being love-bombed and coerced? It's amazing actually, that these people have returned with no sense of have been subtlety trapped again. In fact, they wish to spread more "guidance" to the masses by telling their stories.

Apparently there is no free will after death either, unless these individuals were simply allowing whatever they perceive to happen, following some unknown authorities' wishes. How many of them had a preconceived notion of what happens after death, pre-programmed by a life of exposure to this "guidance" we all acquire on earth? We are taught here that "no" means no, but apparently not so post-death. It means yes, I obey, begrudgingly, but I did lodge a complaint!


It's true, the majority of NDE'ers do not want to come back to earth. Many report begging to stay in the afterlife and even throw temper tantrums when they don't get their way ..like children.

But I don't necessarily view being forced back to earth as a sign of malevolence. I don't think it indicates a trap either. I just think it means you've been blessed with a wonderful opportunity to experience the afterlife but now it's time to return to earth business.

When you tell your kids it's time for bed at 9pm, or that they can't eat candy all day, it's not malevolence. And though it is acting against their will, it's hardly a trap. It's more like tough love. And I think that's the nature of the relationship in the afterlife when one initially crosses over, one of student/teacher or parent/child. Usually the NDE'er is interacting with what they believe is either an angel, Jesus, God, or some other ancient and wise entity that naturally engenders reverence. So the hierarchy is quite clear.

This is how it seems to me anyway.

[palehorse]

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Hi Truman, pardon my ignorance, I didn't read your books yet, hence the question: Is there a way to block their manipulation, is there any earth compound that interfere or block their signals effectively?


Thanks for the question, palehorse. That's a very good question. Unfortunately, I did not answer that question in my books because I don't have any answer for it. Wish I did.

Thanks for your honest answer, much appreciated.

First of all, I should mention that not everyone goes to the light upon death. Some people just hang around such as ghosts in a house. Others simply instinctively go to a hospital or find a pregnant mother and come back naturally.

Pretty much how I see and understand it too.

It appears to me that certain people are "chosen" for NDEs and between-lives abductions to the Mantis motherships. Indeed, as far as abductees are concerned, we are actually told by Grays that we are "chosen ones", as if to flatter us and make us feel "special". And I say this with a significant measure of well-earned sarcasm.

I have to say, I know nearly nothing about Mantis, but I knew about not following the tunnel of light, I think I got it from questioning the Tibetan Book of Dead, it is depicted as the reality during and after death, so it gives the impression that there is no way out of that processes (bardos), but seems like we could just focus on anything else than the light to avoid the reincarnation process, I always questioned these big mysteries in life, I still do.

I only worked with abductees and never ran across and NDE experiencer with which to do research. I could do that if an NDE experiencer wanted me to help unblock any memories regarding the experience. It would be very interesting to do that and I am very willing to engage in that research even though I have a lot of irons in the fire, as it were.

All my experiences with Mantis were death experiences, not "near death". That is, my body died, I went out of body through the tunnel toward the light. In one instance I actually saw where I entered the Mantis mothership. It was a concave circular surface on a round mothership. Of course, NDE experiencers do not see this. They only see and remember the illusion(s) (i.e., telepathic implants) that the Mantis implant in their minds.

The funny thing about this concave surface on the round mothership is that it looks almost exactly like the "death star" in the Star Wars movies! This may be coincidence or the author of the story or screen play knew or was told to depict the "Death Star" in this fashion. Or perhaps the author was unconsciously writing this into the movie script because he'd been there between lives. Who knows?

Anyway, I digress. Back to the question. This is my question, too, so I can only speculate on the solution to the problem. Since I obviously want to terminate the reincarnation cycle into which I was placed some twelve thousand three hundred plus years ago by the Mantis without my consent, I sincerely want to find out the answer to that question because I do not want my memory wiped again.

I spent a big portion of my life this lifetime uncovering the alien matrix of Earth so I certainly don't want to be recycled again back on this insane (but beautiful) planet. So what I have been doing is simply preparing myself for this eventuality by strengthening my resolve not to comply and simply not go down that phu king tunnel. That's the best I can figure out now.

I do understand their basic motive behind their actions in creating and manipulating an artificial reincarnation system for certain inhabitants of Earth, but I do not agree with the way they are doing it. Their idea is simply to dumb us down and manipulate us via mind control in their conspiracy with the Anunnaki, Grays and Reptilians and other minor groups. It appears that various ET groups have their own agendas as well.

My question why don't they reveal the truth and help us to understand why they are doing what they do. They could help us instead of suppressing us if they wanted to.

When Simon Parkes was on Avalon he indicated that he agreed with what the Mantis were doing and even wanted to be one. This is where I part ways with Simon. He specifically referred to this reincarnation motherships as "processing" centers without explaining what he meant. He also said he wanted to be a Mantid. (In the US we use the word "Mantis" while the British say "Mantid".)

It has been said that the Mantis/Mantids are sometimes called "the ancients". This may well be the case because they possess the "soul transference technology" which Linda Moulton Howe refers to as "reincarnation technology". Frankly, Linda, I prefer my term better, but we are talking about the same thing. I've experienced it many times so I am very familiar with it.

This begs the question: Why aren't we allowed to have access to this technology?

In my humble opinion we are been controlled, I don't know exactly what I can just feel it, sometimes is a strong feeling. I used to not like the idea of we are food for whoever is out there, they feed on negative emotions.. I know for a fact of matter (met personally very evil ones), they love suffering (weird sentence), they feed from it, why all these atrocities with kids and what a about a fake plandemic world wide, all of this is not killing, is causing suffering, it is very evil in nature. So my ideas about why they don't allow access to this technology? it is very simple, if we all know about it, we can behave differently and they could potentially die (if we really are food for them), anyway seems like there is a possibility for us to cause disruption into their mediocre lives.

Anyone out there want to live forever and not have your memory wiped so you can learn from your own experiences from all your past lives? Duh! :facepalm:


Thanks Truman :Avalon:

[shaberon]

A significant percentage of NDE'rs mention meeting Jesus. I know the prevailing theory here is that spiritual beings take specific forms to match the individual's expectations, but I don't recall ever hearing about an NDE where the experiencer met Muhammed, or Buddha, or Krishna, or (fill in the blank here). I'm not saying it hasn't happened. I'm simply saying I've never heard of it.



Out of the many experiences, what causes "near death"? Would much of it come in the category "self-induced at will"?


In order to do this, the "right doctrine" made a huge difference to me personally. That is to say, there is a quiet layer of our mind where are stored memories of past lives, and the transitions between each and corresponding heavens and hells, and so this type of mind must be utterly disconnected from our physical brain. There is no way it could possibly be the same thing. Nor do we likely become physically aware of the domain of Immortality.

By adding this idea to meditation--that there is something I don't personally know, yet, this death consciousness must be "more real" and bigger than me--the right attitude and openness allowed it to present itself.


Because that is what I followed, I have an unusually massive inner familiarity with subtle yoga and death consciousness. Because I did not add other parts of the meditation, I skipped any interest about the Other Side, which has to do with Vimana or shall we say constructing one's Temple in Heaven. This is where our school is definitely "polytheistic" or uses multiple avenues of approach, so the appearance or form of the environment and figures in it are somewhat malleable.

The reason most such meditation works is not because a figure or symbol has an inherent existence per se--but these meditations use patterns that do not decay.

The importance is to train on something with stability and consistency.

I am able to say one particular thing, which is that we are replicating a relatively modern experience.


Delok Dawa Drolma (https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Delog_Dawa_Drolma) (?-1941)

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Journey to Realms Beyond Death


An excerpt from her is quoted at Yulokod Studios (https://yulokodgallery.ca/buddhas.htm), Cambridge, Ontario. It is self-explanatory.

Of course, it is not Jesus or any other popular image. In my experience, I have not experienced any of those.

[Delight]

If I had to guess, I've researched maybe 300 of these NDE's. And not a single one of them mentioned anything about a trap. Not one.



Yes, but how many NDE's included the notion that the individual had no say in what transpires next? How many people conveyed the thought that they did not want to come back yet were pushed back by an unknown authority figure after being love-bombed and coerced? It's amazing actually, that these people have returned with no sense of have been subtlety trapped again. In fact, they wish to spread more "guidance" to the masses by telling their stories.

Apparently there is no free will after death either, unless these individuals were simply allowing whatever they perceive to happen, following some unknown authorities' wishes. How many of them had a preconceived notion of what happens after death, pre-programmed by a life of exposure to this "guidance" we all acquire on earth? We are taught here that "no" means no, but apparently not so post-death. It means yes, I obey, begrudgingly, but I did lodge a complaint!

So much amazing response to the questions.

William Buhlman and his wife have an actual program to use to be ready for the transition out of the body at death. Just a few years ago Bill was very ill with a mouth or esophageal cancer. He went through treatment, is living now and it confronted him with a near death to help others.

Before this and for 40 years or so, he has been using OBE travel to study the realms beyond the body. His conclusion is that BELIEF is what leads us to different states of experience outside the body. He gave talks at the Monroe Institute addressing consciousness and belief. He suggests we must undo our beliefs to manage after death transition. He also recommends learning to use OBE experience as preparation.

For some reason, the whole subject of exploring this is repelling to me.

FOR ME, yes, undoing beliefs is key. It came to me in a kind of reverie vision that EVERYTHING I could possibly think is a SPIN, metaphorically a turning record ON A SPINDLE. This spindle is the center I IMAGINE where I am alone with God. I can be here with God completly without any story. I recognize I create the story of my life as is all of us HERE DO. I can observe dispassionately from the Spirit Rope I am held by in this SPINNING realm of LIES. BE LIE to make it real in this paradox.

This is not new information to hear IMO. However, when a person takes on the consistent FEELING of being with God in the center of all lies all the time (by the nature of the realm), one can just BE as if in a kind of void that IS and FULL of energy and the kind of information that is not cogitating with mental spins.

I have started imagining that every thing is being turned over to the SOURCE in my space. I don't have to figure out what is to be given. It is ALL a spin.

I choose to imagine what I want. What I WANT is a tangible world JUST LIKE THIS AS A PHYSICAL SPACE. There is no inversion. there are all the real natural laws. There are all the challenges of the human experience. There is no EVIL which is a manipulative THOUGHT FORM which has no redeeming value. I cannot imagine eating one another. We receive energy direct from SOURCE. We each are self healing. No need to seek outside HELP. We interact and we may have human emotional drama but it is not a manipulative mind field.

It's exploartion, art and a chance to be tangible. It is paradoxical that if we are attached, we must stay where we are> IMO.

I meditate in a void that is FULL. It feels so deeply without a need to explain. My daily life IMO is mostly being as authentically myself as possible. At work as a massage therapist, I do hold up that EVERYONE has the spirit rope to be with GOD themselves. I imagine the soul spark igniting because IN THE SPIRIT ROPE, we hold on to our energy. We don't spin every little mind form we observe.

To me this is good practice because I FEEL the Presence of the Supreme Source, not any middle men presenting themselves. I will always recognize this Presence.

Human life right now is beset IMO with noncorporeal entities. If you REFUSE to feed them, IMO that is excellent practice. The issue I had and seems "normal" is that for much of my life, I was as needy as these entities. IMO it is our task NOW to stop being needy. IMO belief thrives on need. How can you let go of whatever it seems is vital. Even down to being in competition FOR dear life.

I entertain that IF my imagination creates reality, I choose to imagine that the only trap is present for me in my NEED. I may be crazy but I FEEL God is here and there is nothing needed but that connection. All else is revealed IMO to us on a NEW and rather UNKNOWN state? I will use this world of BE LIE F to create this as MY SPIN> until I make it real HERE in this realm (in the smallest little bit that is my experience). Maybe this imagining is a muscle for creating IN a whole NEW way we are meant now to use?

These are such classic talks IMO.

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[Merlinus]

The info that wes provided is the best I've come across so far, but as you look deeper, it appears there's many layers to this game, many traps.

[chris_walker]

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It has been said that the Mantis/Mantids are sometimes called "the ancients". This may well be the case because they possess the "soul transference technology" which Linda Moulton Howe refers to as "reincarnation technology". Frankly, Linda, I prefer my term better, but we are talking about the same thing. I've experienced it many times so I am very familiar with it.

This begs the question: Why aren't we allowed to have access to this technology?

Anyone out there want to live forever and not have your memory wiped so you can learn from your own experiences from all your past lives? Duh! :facepalm:If this technology exists, it is almost supernatural, then what about the med beds: the holographic medical beds? Both technologies sound similar. Bill Ryan says the med beds are a fantasy.

Also, if it's possible to go to hospital in spirit form and choose a pregnant mother, does that mean you will retain your previous life's memory and will you be aware whilst inside a pregnant woman? If the latter is true, that is scary to me as I'm a bit claustrophobic?

[Nimita]

This is the after life.

[Delight]

Since I embraced the POV that all is a spin, I have been having insights related to this idea. I gravitate a lot lately to those who intend to leave this realm. In so many cases we just VISCERALLY feel we will not ever come to the scene again.

It seems like it WAS hacked.

Is there a remembering we participate within and keep the Inversion in place. So MUCH seems real such as strife and ignorance. Can we see clearly and regain our minds? It seems to me that we are being guided to our hearts and imaginations and to forgive this and create something we long to experience.

We were meant to play here in matter IMO. IMO this realm as simlacrum COULD be the case. Could it be we could live HERE? Be happy and free here? WHY do we have the almost perfect symmetry of the physical. It seems clear to me it is created.

However, there is OBVIOUSLY a hack of what we innately sense is Good. The inversion made us material slaves. But it only could happen because we sere disconnected from the ground of being with an unknown name.

This world could be so beautiful in the way I want it to be. We all have our version.
What I came up with is that all I have is now and memory. I am experimenting a little with trying to remember something just the way I would like it to be reconciled. I have definite opinions on what I appreciate. I am curious if I could imagine my realm and RE member it.

I want to remember this life as being so complete that it is the finale of all lifetimes. It is MYTHIC! So, for instance, I stretch my imagination to include the memory of an experience. I make this memory complete. This is not belief. this is a memory that one can mull over.

I have resolved some blocks doing this. I have taken myself back to moments and changed whatever I like. I have avoided whole series of misfortune by recalling moments. How do I know? It is just so. In my imagination, I decide. I am joyful there will be no irreversible cataclysms devastating all the earth in conflagration. The apocalypse and the end of the astral is in my memory.

Playing is how we create.
Why do we have aspirations to create? It is about the impulse to play. IMO this was the perfect circle. You create just for its sake because it is play. You get all you energy and inspiration from the FIELD>Then you step it down.

This is my story. In my story God is penetrating every space of my whole body. Because I have free will, I can bring God to my astral body and emanate the light into the astral. In my story, I am beaming and experiencing grace and good will. All things work for the good of I am. My realm has such deep peace because we all have direct Source energy.

Now I am taking this to a new level. There is a whole cadre of us beaming the flow in the astral. It is a frequency of hyperbaric love. It feels like nothing I ever imagined before. This feels like a deep Faith. We are learning to PLAY without the mental paradigm which choked.

The God sparks are all awakened and the structure of the astral is dismantled. The terrible dream ends. The energy which has beamed onto my realm has cleared all parasitic beings. In MY realm, all true humans have only begun to explore as art-is-its. There is the right side up world to explore.

All beings are now free and happy. My whole realm which I see as the earth picture, is FILLED with the energy of the SOURCE. It is so much more hyperbaric pressurized Source filling.

We each have our own spirit rope connection to mother father god.
We are creating knowing that ineffable Godness Presence filling us. Maybe There is polarity but we are in the center.

In MY realm, we are experiencing zero interference. What is it like to have no resistance?

In my realm, I am able to surrender because I know a Presence who knows me. We know who is the Unfathomable beloved being and in me being beloved.

It is so delicious to know. We grok: I trust that God is and I exist and I have the ability to imagine wonders but the best is to imagine the place I cannot even imagine. PARADOX.

I can imagine so well what it feels to let go of expectation of how the future will unfold. Paradox. Actually all this is maybe nothing anyone else might enjoy. The biggest paradox of all is that none of us have the same experience.

From this POV, I can only imagine LIFE flourishing. What this leads us to is our destiny which is everything we have deeply loved. Here there and everywhere?

[Delight]

Today I listened to this video

Compassion For Humanity & Ending The Soul Trap

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The spiritist religions of South America include ideas of astral cities which are rather like earth and have structures and activities like earth. People who do astral traveling report all kinds of structure, hierarchy, etc.

Once one accepts that these accounts may be more than singular imaginings and point to a finer BUT material construction, then one questions WHY this whole HUGE creation (?) looks like earth or we look like it. WHY SUFFERING!!!!

I did not make up the following but it makes sense and makes for questions I want the answers for......

Earth as a school makes little sense if you cannot recall what you already learned. So, WHY do we forget?

Earth as a prison makes no sense at all if you are being punished for events you cannot recall.

Earth as a farm makes sense.

As above so below?

BELOW, it is acceptable to manipulate others.
It is acceptable to use others energy.
It is acceptable to use MIGHT (force, power) 0ver right.

We are born into trauma. We are damaged by our exposure to poisonous mind/body/soul assaults. We are pitted against the rest of us traumatized beings in a world of "scarcity" where we literally BUY our debt and can never be free of it UNLESS we leave "society".

It looked like the deaths we will face would release us, I thought. I AM NOT SURE ANY LONGER WHAT IS true and how should we face these issues?

MY personal take is that I feel a relationship with a power greater than I am who HELPS me. I have had interesting experiences with knowing things but the knowings are NOT academic or wordy or educational. There is a sense of well being and protection. There is NO info to share. THERE IS energy of positive nature to extend. There is emotional healing. There is insight on a feeling level I translate.

Others have much mental/spirit INFORMATION from some "other" realm. They GO somewhere and it seems an established "place" and others GO there too? The glimpses I have heard reported have some serious holes of incongruity that need clearing up for me.

For instance, why DO people (including Edgar Cayce) share there are discrete "Libraries" where beings "go" to learn things (so there is not any OMNISCIENCE). People are sometimes FORCED to return in NDEs.(Free will?). People report needing to go through further "learning" to get close to "God"(and others say you cannot from where they re situated reach God). IS not God OMNIPRESENT?

God as Omnipotent made it all but we don't get to be there as we cannot handle it?

Here on earth events indicate the "technocratic world" life is OBVIOUSLY becoming insufferable. We are placed in tracks (like educational/work) which are dependent on other tracks to function in a convoluted system that is apparently VERY entrenched in a HUGE realm where we cannot reach the "boss". Does it end?

AS above so below is feeling oppressively like we are in a farmed, controlled, imprisoning trap that will not end until we can stand up and spit it out. That takes some major stand alone ability. Can we?

We are told to stand for ideals then I learn the lies and tricks in every corner mean we are in a circular arrangement, a wheel. There are also wheels within wheels. You do not know who/what you REALLY supporting BECAUSE we cannot suss when we cannot read others intentions.

This "knowing" that I have is all I can go on and it feels like I have a spherical beingness (and it is not a human or any form... much like a space of contained charge) which is held in an energy WAY greater than possible to imagine BUT real and present and personal. Since everything I can think is part of the spin, I can observe everything as equally unimportant in the big picture. Even what I am writing here is a spin. PARADOX rules. The point is to be observational and curious about what is interesting IMO>

My plan is when I die to already be well established in focus on staying in this space with the Unknown god. Maybe I am just deluded but every day I affirm my relationship to ORIGINAL source energy of an Unknown yet energetically tangible nature, I feel more certain and it reveals info confirming itself. That is tricky. Therefore, I have to be comfortable with allowing ambiguity. I am IN a zone of singular protection because I requested it. Everyone can choose whatever they wish. The realest thing IMO we can know is that we have an observing "I am". Maybe I am wrong every where else.

What appears IN DAILY life is positive. Since I actually FEEL connected, I am not looking for help. IMO the spin being promulgated by demiurge energies, who may own EVERYTHING MATERIAL (nonphysical included) will NOT do me in.

This is all mysterious. I am still wondering why I feel this sense of Presence that communicates as if it is in my physical "universe" through feelings of energy and that life is easier and richer without any particular effort. This seems great though isolated. I want others to have this ease and to escape any "traps".

[HopSan]

Earth as a school makes little sense if you cannot recall what you already learned. So, WHY do we forget?

Earth as a prison makes no sense at all if you are being punished for events you cannot recall.

Earth as a farm makes sense.

...

Others have much mental/spirit INFORMATION from some "other" realm.

...

AS above so below is feeling oppressively like we are in a farmed, controlled, imprisoning trap that will not end until we can stand up and spit it out. That takes some major stand alone ability. Can we?



Thanks, verrry interesting... I'll cut in some previous points:

Mike:
> the majority of NDE'ers do not want to come back to earth. Many report begging to stay in the afterlife and even throw temper tantrums when they don't get their way ..like children.

As my wife was nearing her death, during the last days (at home, safe), she was weak, but also like meditating, dreaming, moving to next thing. She was only partly conscious, but told very clearly in hospital, that she did not want to live some useless days more suffering.

Same thing happened (I was told) with my mother. She slept more and more, no suffering, but like distancing from this life.

As if both had seen something more inviting than this...

Mike:
> being forced back to earth

A strange thing: I had quite separate discussions with two (now gone) friends. We all laughingly, but very seriously thought that there has been a mistake in 'cosmic postal office'-- our 'real' location was meant to be elsewhere. And we all swore to never return this place (earth) again.

And Delight:

> School, prison, farm, ... ??

My hunch, now:

A place where we are 'tried'. Our inner quality gets 'tested', and SHOWN, in the middle of utmost sickness, evil, crazyness.

[TrumanCash]

Today I listened to this video

Compassion For Humanity & Ending The Soul Trap

ej5UZFHoShc

The spiritist religions of South America include ideas of astral cities which are rather like earth and have structures and activities like earth. People who do astral traveling report all kinds of structure, hierarchy, etc.

Once one accepts that these accounts may be more than singular imaginings and point to a finer BUT material construction, then one questions WHY this whole HUGE creation (?) looks like earth or we look like it. WHY SUFFERING!!!!

I did not make up the following but it makes sense and makes for questions I want the answers for......

Earth as a school makes little sense if you cannot recall what you already learned. So, WHY do we forget?

Earth as a prison makes no sense at all if you are being punished for events you cannot recall.

Earth as a farm makes sense.

As above so below?

BELOW, it is acceptable to manipulate others.
It is acceptable to use others energy.
It is acceptable to use MIGHT (force, power) 0ver right.

We are born into trauma. We are damaged by our exposure to poisonous mind/body/soul assaults. We are pitted against the rest of us traumatized beings in a world of "scarcity" where we literally BUY our debt and can never be free of it UNLESS we leave "society".

It looked like the deaths we will face would release us, I thought. I AM NOT SURE ANY LONGER WHAT IS true and how should we face these issues?

MY personal take is that I feel a relationship with a power greater than I am who HELPS me. I have had interesting experiences with knowing things but the knowings are NOT academic or wordy or educational. There is a sense of well being and protection. There is NO info to share. THERE IS energy of positive nature to extend. There is emotional healing. There is insight on a feeling level I translate.

Others have much mental/spirit INFORMATION from some "other" realm. They GO somewhere and it seems an established "place" and others GO there too? The glimpses I have heard reported have some serious holes of incongruity that need clearing up for me.

For instance, why DO people (including Edgar Cayce) share there are discrete "Libraries" where beings "go" to learn things (so there is not any OMNISCIENCE). People are sometimes FORCED to return in NDEs.(Free will?). People report needing to go through further "learning" to get close to "God"(and others say you cannot from where they re situated reach God). IS not God OMNIPRESENT?

God as Omnipotent made it all but we don't get to be there as we cannot handle it?

Here on earth events indicate the "technocratic world" life is OBVIOUSLY becoming insufferable. We are placed in tracks (like educational/work) which are dependent on other tracks to function in a convoluted system that is apparently VERY entrenched in a HUGE realm where we cannot reach the "boss". Does it end?

AS above so below is feeling oppressively like we are in a farmed, controlled, imprisoning trap that will not end until we can stand up and spit it out. That takes some major stand alone ability. Can we?

We are told to stand for ideals then I learn the lies and tricks in every corner mean we are in a circular arrangement, a wheel. There are also wheels within wheels. You do not know who/what you REALLY supporting BECAUSE we cannot suss when we cannot read others intentions.

This "knowing" that I have is all I can go on and it feels like I have a spherical beingness (and it is not a human or any form... much like a space of contained charge) which is held in an energy WAY greater than possible to imagine BUT real and present and personal. Since everything I can think is part of the spin, I can observe everything as equally unimportant in the big picture. Even what I am writing here is a spin. PARADOX rules. The point is to be observational and curious about what is interesting IMO>

My plan is when I die to already be well established in focus on staying in this space with the Unknown god. Maybe I am just deluded but every day I affirm my relationship to ORIGINAL source energy of an Unknown yet energetically tangible nature, I feel more certain and it reveals info confirming itself. That is tricky. Therefore, I have to be comfortable with allowing ambiguity. I am IN a zone of singular protection because I requested it. Everyone can choose whatever they wish. The realest thing IMO we can know is that we have an observing "I am". Maybe I am wrong every where else.

What appears IN DAILY life is positive. Since I actually FEEL connected, I am not looking for help. IMO the spin being promulgated by demiurge energies, who may own EVERYTHING MATERIAL (nonphysical included) will NOT do me in.

This is all mysterious. I am still wondering why I feel this sense of Presence that communicates as if it is in my physical "universe" through feelings of energy and that life is easier and richer without any particular effort. This seems great though isolated. I want others to have this ease and to escape any "traps".

Thanks for posting this video and your comments, Delight. Tony Sayers really gets it! I can really relate to what he says in this video given my own experiences between lives with the Mantis (aka, Insectoids, Mantids, etc).

In the video Tony refers to these afterlife or NDE places as "processing centers" and that is exactly right from my own experiences.

Interestingly, Simon Parkes also referred to these places as "processing" centers when he was posting here on Avalon years ago. I wondered at that time how he knew about them so I initiated a bit of conversation with him about them as I knew them well.

However, Simon was talking about the "Mantids" as being good ETs and he indicated that he wanted to be one. I do not agree with him on many points. I can only comment on my own experiences and do not know if Simon's experiences are entirely true. Many people have different views about Simon Parkes and I do not wish to take sides in those arguments simply because they are not my experiences. I do not accept Simon's viewpoints on Gesara/Nesara, however, as that is a totally unworkable solution if it does in fact exist.

What I discovered is that the abducting Mantis, Anunnaki, Grays and Reptilians all work together to keep mankind in spiritual darkness and in a perpetual state of war on Earth and between countries. They do not respect free will and they program us with lies and deceptions.

In my books I referred to them as Extra-Terrestrial Conspirators, or ETCs. They follow their abductees (which they refer to as "chosen ones") from lifetime to lifetime and sometimes place us in positions of authority in governments, military, secret societies and religions. They operate in secrecy, call themselves "gods" to be worshipped and obeyed (or else) and use us to implement their nefarious agendas.

The Mantis work directly with the Anunnaki "gods" and in fact in Egypt I found that they even use the same type of ships as the Anunnaki, specifically Ra's model of ship.

I cover my between-lives experiences with the Mantis in my second book, THE EYE OF RA, in the chapter "In-Between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions" (p. 98 of the PDF, link below).

What I found is that the Mantis in particular run the artificial reincarnation system for Earth from their motherships. The light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel technology is just that. It is how they hoover us up into their motherships in NDEs and upon body death. The tunnel literally connects with the Mantis motherships. I sometimes refer to these motherships as "soul suckers".

They appear to be glowing beings but that is only due to their ability to project illusions into our consciousness while in a hypnotic state on their ships (even though we are out of body). They have technological and psychic abilities that appear to us magic. But it's not magic.

Since we are in a hypnotic state they can psychically implant all kinds of narratives, visions, seeing your dead relatives, you name it, in our consciousness so it is understandable that people who experience NDEs will return with different narratives and they can taylor-make the programming to each individual. In the aforementioned chapter you can read about some of the deceptive programming I was given while I was onboard these "processing centers" between lives.

The depiction below from the movie "Cocoon" is a fairly close approximation of what Mantis look like to abductees on board their motherships while in a state of hypnosis. The drawing below that is an approximation of what they really look like without the psychic hypnotic projection.

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[Mike]

I think this video works here in this thread (although admittedly I have not listened to it, but I will). I am pretty familiar with David Icke's take on 3d earth reality as a nefarious simulation (and also the immediate afterlife as a nefarious simulation/trap), and the title suggests this is what we'll hear from Icke in this interview.

This runs contrary to my personal belief, but David is always a great listen and I anticipate some members will enjoy it.

"Is The Simulation Run By Otherwordly Rulers In The Astral Realm?" About 45 mins long:
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[Delight]

This was an interesting conversation about this place we are seeming to be in and how to conduct oneself. We are an extension of the Creator and have a real soul in a fake world.

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[Delight]

This video is a well rounded overview of indications we are in a perpetual recycling here.

-wyk7V2Cby4

[RunningDeer]

This video is a well rounded overview of indications we are in a perpetual recycling here.


-wyk7V2Cby4




TRANSCRIPT: TOP TEN RED FLAGS WE MAY BE IN A PRISON/LOOSH FARM SYSTEM (https://trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/top-ten-flags-we-are-in-a-prison-loosh-farm.html)
by Wayne Bush and Julie McVey
January 30, 2024

Creators & Hosts of Sovereign Spirits:
Wayne Bush is a researcher, writer and creator of TrickedByTheLight.com website.
Julie McVey is an author, out-of-body experiencer and creator of the UnOrdinary Made Ordinary show.

In this episode, we will be sharing the article we wrote a few months ago, Top Ten Red Flags We Are in a Prison/Loosh Farm System. We will be reading from the article as we share this information with you so we don't miss any vital information. We do not pretend to know everything. It is not our intention to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is absolutely the case, but this should provide ample evidence to persuade one that this is a viable theory worth serious consideration.

If the theory is true, then we should move forward with solutions and ways to exit the deceptive system in which we find ourselves. However, this is not really a prison in the conventional sense. If we have to be manipulated to be here, then we are in a so-called "prison" cell without doors and it is only temporary. We don't have to keep falling for the tricks the wardens use to convince us to return here. As long as one continues to give one's power away, then one will remain in a "prison" one chooses to be in.

1:24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=84s) Red Flag #1 Memory Wipe and Ignorance

3:09 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=189s) Red Flag #2 Programming and Conditioning

4:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=275s) Red Flag #3 Extremity of Suffering and Duration of Reincarnation Cycle

9:12 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=552s) Red Flag #4 Kill & Consume Energy to Survive (The Food Chain)

18:49 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=1129s) Red Flag #5 Secrecy, Lies & Deception, Manipulation & Control at Top

22:19 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=1339s) Red Flag #6 Prison/Limitations of Spirit

27:03 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=1623s) Red Flag #7 Sleep and Entropy

29:34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=1774s) Red Flag #8 Lack of Disclosure, Transparency and Consistency in Major Religions & Sacred Texts

32:07 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=1927s) Red Flag #9 Paranormal Accounts and Experiences

37:21 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=2241s) Red Flag #10 Virtual Realities, AI, Simulations

39:32 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4&t=2372s) Afterlife Affirmation (as of March 2024)


Edit to update: We have a new affirmation as of June 12, 2024 and we continue to refine it as we learn more.

[Delight]

I do know this is not a REAL place here and is an evil construct.

This is generally a very interesting conversation. Jason Breshears lays out in his immense amount of content that this is a simulacrum in which immortals are embedded. The immortal sparks he calls seekers, errants who are out of resonance with a collective SCRIPT created by a force and its human AGENTS.

There is some awesome info for those wanting to exit the matrix. Starting about 1:07:22 mathematic coincidences are too great to be natural. Events repeat in perfectly structured construction. In a simulation/simulacrum, everything in the timeline is scripted EXCEPT US. We immortals must recognize our state and ignore the collective programming.

At death, People who are in the construct and who do not recognize who they are IMMEDIATELY recycle back. HOWEVER apparently, the end of the construct is at hand. When it ends, we who are immortals will be released from the simulation. I am quite appreciative of knowing I am an errant and what my role is in creating MY experience. Our main focus should be LIVING and expressing our knowing of what is right, true, loving we recognize in front of us, do what one chooses in response KNOWING we choose and there is a Universal feedback. What is adding to our immortal INFORMED FIELD is the key for exit.

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[Michi]

Recently in my search for navigating the out-of-body realms I came across a lady I hadn’t heard before and after watching a few of her interviews on youtube I decided to read her short ebook (https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0C1HPVSZ1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_351_o06?ie=UTF8&psc=1) on Amazon.

Her name is Isabella Greene (http://www.isabellagreene.com/)

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She covers from her own research and experiences quite similarly what Wayne Bush, Cameron Day, David Icke and Wes Penre found out about the after-life and earth being a trap.

What however stands out on her research is that astral travel is the wrong approach in order to "prepare" one's journey after discarding his body.

The astral realm according to Isabella is the exact zone, where the trap is located and it is rather difficult to exit out of that area (although - not impossible).

She offers a complete different approach for leaving the body and explore other worlds and realms through a Kundalini activation technique called "cosmic breath".

This technique is not at all a soft, smooth exiting the body but a rather violent shooting out of the head.

Meanwhile she offers also a workshop (https://www.thevoidacademy.net/) on her website which I find quite less expensive compared with the AYDA Method course (astral travel) by Darius J. Wright.

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