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Bright Skies
17th July 2024, 21:41
I never thought I'd see the day that I would be mocked on Project Avalon with 'crazy' and 'facepalm' emojis for not trusting a politician and suggesting that both sides are controlled.
If that's how things are going to go down there is no point in participating here further.
This could have been my quote...I empathize.
Thanks Ernie.
I simply offered an alternative viewpoint on an alternative forum. Members can take it or leave it, agree or disagree. I even stated that "my opinion is not set in stone and I reserve the right to change my mind".
I am not going to discuss the contents of my post further as I think the concerns and points I have raised are clear enough for most members to understand. And it appears some members did leave a 'Thank You' to my post so they at least understand where I am coming from.
(By the way Ernie, on some posts I do not agree with your views whilst on others I certainly do agree with your views. Afterall, it's a forum! And if someone does post something I do not agree with I can at least understand why they would come to such a conclusion.)
:handshake:
I never thought I'd see the day that I would be mocked on Project Avalon with 'crazy' and 'facepalm' emojis for not trusting a politician and suggesting that both sides are controlled.
I was pointing at what you are describing, not at you personally ... calling it being "mocked" sounds more like an insecurity issue.
In one line you state that you are not pointing out at me personally and in the next line you insinuate that I have "an insecurity issue".
Thanks ExomatrixTV. :heart: That's really nice of you.
You see, you may not realize that you are "mocking" others too in using highly judgmental semi-accusatory (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121489-Widespread-Conspiracy-Memes-vs-Real-Awareness-&p=1621842&viewfull=1#post1621842) generalizing terms.
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Ahh, now I understand. In my initial post I had given props to a user named s7e6e and in this thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121489-Widespread-Conspiracy-Memes-vs-Real-Awareness-&p=1621842&viewfull=1#post1621842) (that you linked above) you are giving them a dressing-down along with another member.
You are not even a moderator and yet you are calling out individual members and instructing them on how they should post? It is not your place to do so.
In any case, I stated in my follow-up post that "if I over-generalised in my initial comments I should not have and I apologise".
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
Please don't "cheers" me and please don't reply to me again or attempt to contact me. Thank you.
norman
17th July 2024, 21:59
If you tied me down, it’s Ukraine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UjCfpEtN-g&ab_channel=GeorgeGalloway (3:51)
"The thing is that Donald Trump has made it plain that he won’t continue with war in Ukraine and follow the path to World War Three. Although he might do it elsewhere".
For more on the Ukraine probable connection have a listen (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623319&viewfull=1#post1623319) to George Webb, who is currently staying in a hotel in Butler, who has seen and heard Ukrainians in that hotel and who seem to have come there as part of the 'Police and Fire Games' event that just happens to have coincided/preceded this tragedy.
Almost the same scenario as having a drill on 9/11, 7/7, Copenhagen etc etc etc.
Bill Ryan
17th July 2024, 22:21
For anyone who still may possibly believe or suspect that this was somehow 'staged', with actors, fake blood, and no-one who really died, do watch Clayton Morris' very emotional interview with witness Melody Hook, starting in at 17:30 on the Redacted episode for today. It's instructive. :flower:
Disturbing New Details in Trump Assassination Plot Exposed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsYzm-BxQmo
Gwin Ru
17th July 2024, 22:29
...
... oh, well... what else is wrong with all these shots?
TRUMP STAGES HIS HEAD WOUND (https://www.bitchute.com/video/iVtzRnMHFVU9) 12:57
4 days ago
MaxResistance (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/OSptoVV4rN0M)
iVtzRnMHFVU9
Delight
17th July 2024, 22:43
The Evidence Points To Widespread Insider Pre-Knowledge - Peak Prosperity
7/17
Peak Prosperity
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onevoice
17th July 2024, 22:44
Just a couple of questions.
1) Has anyone come across any article or video that discusses whether these could be used to raise Secret Service spotters or even snipers to a high, clear, strategic vantage point?
(They're called boom lifts. SpaceX has a zillion of them all over their Starbase launch facility as stable elevated platforms to do maintenance on rockets.)
https://cdn-jlg.scdn5.secure.raxcdn.com/-/media/jlg/current-materials-no-password/products/americas---ansi/engine-powered-boom-lifts/articulating-booms/340aj-articulating-boom/images/340aj-product-silo.jpg?rev=f2774f3ae4d34806bb5e1a34d7e371d1
2) And how about drones? Any teenager with a good drone + camera, costing just a few hundred $$, could have seen the shooter(s) almost instantly.
I don't know but I did notice a forklift/loader to our right (Trump's left) of the stage expelling a mist while it's front end loader arms dropped slowly, as if a bullet had punctured the hydraulic pipe releasing the pressure. I was drawn to that misty expulsion the first time I watched the video but it only struck me today that it might have been a bullet hit that caused it. It happened immediately as the shooting stopped.
It's in all the videos so I won't go looking for a clip now.
I extracted the attached frame grab from the Peak Prosperity Video Bill included in an earlier post that I think you are referring to. On the right side, we can see hydraulic fluid spraying out, which is an expansion of the overal image on the left side. Click on the image below to see full resolution image.
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Delight
17th July 2024, 23:13
Note: I am apolitical and have no emotional attachment to any political leader or political party. I do not believe that any one political leader is the saviour and I do not buy into the controlled 'red team' vs 'blue team' competition. That is why I am analysing the incident in such a detached and dispassionate manner.
If that's how things are going to go down there is no point in participating here further.
This could have been my quote...I empathize.
This incident was a conspiracy with tons of evidence. It was not any MORE a conspiracy than all the previous running on similar playbooks. CONTROL OUR PERCEPTION and demand we "respect" dead people by not questioning. The playbook uses CONFUSION, Obfuscate us, SAY REDICULOUS statements to bludgeon our common sense, gas light, kill some people, have some crisis actors (and real agents but playing a role). Plant all the seeds of divisive opinion, Memory Hole what really happened and wait...
I have never seen any event from JFK on that had any ENOUGH momentum of COMMON CAUSE from united communities to matter WHEN IT MATTERED. 50 years out means it is just a vacuous exercise in futility. They wait and we move on. it uses our own best and worst character (like loyalty to people despite all evidence and rejection even when we are FACED with cognitive dissonant triggering evidence)
People will listen to the propaganda spun from various factions and for SOME REASON, not be able to see what is clearly in ones face. People will just be UNABLE to admit that this could be deliberate mental manipulation.
I am so woo that I am entertaining the shattered collective mind and YES< DIVINE teleology. I am seeing bigger picture where we step aside from the binaries and yes, looking for a hero to save us. YET< being able to acknowledge heroic imperfect ROLE models. When will WE be HEROIC?
This is from an article by Bernhard Guenther
Woke Leftists, Black-Pilled Truthers, Divine Grace, And The Hero Archetype (https://veilofreality.com/2024/07/15/woke-leftists-black-pilled-truthers-divine-grace-and-the-hero-archetype/)
....Lost in Plato’s Cave
It’s fascinating how the mindset and level of consciousness of woke far leftists and a certain fraction of self-proclaimed “awake” truthers have become very similar over the past few years. Both are caught in the victim/blame trap and have lost [higher] meaning. They have descended into a paranoid labyrinth of their own minds augmented by Wetiko.
The armchair truthers who see psy-ops, controlled ops, and staged events everywhere are perhaps the most lost and deluded, for they believe themselves to be “awake” [and see everyone as “sheeple”] as if they have figured it all out – as if a mental “understanding” of what they think the matrix is has anything to do with a true awakening.
The more neurotic ones project their unconscious father/mother wound on any authority in an unconscious knee-jerk reaction to the point of not even recognizing and seeing positive higher symbols and assisting forces anymore.
Instead, they see everything as a trap, to the point that some even believe that Earth itself is a prison planet and reincarnation is a trap. Everything is an artificial simulation, scripted and planned. This view of reality is similar to a regressive materialistic view denying the Divine and a higher Divine Will with a benevolent purpose and meaning in the context of the evolution of consciousness.
They can’t perceive anything good in the world anymore but have become prisoners of their own internalized hell and cynicism. But it’s unconscious and mechanical.
Over the years, I’ve seen many people disintegrate psychologically and spiritually in the so-called “truth movement.” It’s a sad picture. It shows how easily an awakening impulse can get hijacked in the “truth movement.
They have lost their connection to the Divine and even their soul being. They can’t even recognize when the collective psyche is gracing them with a most potent symbol and archetype of a hero.
Both the woke left and the black-pilled “everything is staged & scripted” truther crowd have rejected the hero archetype and instead have torn him down, just like Jesus was crucified. I’m strictly talking about archetypal symbolism here beyond religion.
They need to reject the hero because they strongly identify as the victim, even if only unconsciously. A chronic victim doesn’t only blame the outside world for his/her misery, but the “truther-victim” mentality also lives in a perpetual state of paranoia, believing there are controlled ops and traps everywhere. The archetypal hero threatens their identity. It is the opposite of who they are; hence, they get triggered by it. Yet, ironically, integrating and embodying it would be the antidote and cure for their self-imposed misery and help the world.
Interesting side note: David Hawkins mentioned that according to his model of the “map of consciousness,” people who are living in a victim/blame state have a very low level of consciousness and cannot perceive Truth and reality accurately at that level. They will only see what will justify their victim/blame state, projected externally on the world. See his book “Power vs. Force” for more.
The woke left and fractions of the truthers also suffer under severe TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), each in their own way with all the shadow projections and oversimplified black-and-white perceptions involved. The one side sees him as Hitler and a dictator. The other side sees him as a controlled op or Illuminati or is overly fixated on the vaccine issue or whatever confirms their biased projections.
There is no nuance, wisdom, or understanding of how even the Divine can do His work through an imperfect instrument like Trump [more on that topic below].
The Divine even uses YOU as His instrument the best He can despite your ignorance, stupidity, distortion, imperfection, selfishness, laziness, all the lies you tell yourself about yourself, and many other traits we all carry and often only project externally.
Yet, you, too, have something to provide and give to the world—a specific purpose that is unique to you. It connects you to pure Joy and the truth of your soul being—to stand up for something greater than you and not just point out what you think is wrong with the world. But can you even hear or sense the divine impulse within you, or are you so entrenched in your outer crust that you even reject His call?
“The only free will in the world is the one divine Will of which Nature is the executrix; for she is the master and creator of all other wills. Human free will can be real in a sense, but, like all things that belong to the modes of Nature, it is only relatively real. The mind rides on a swirl of natural forces, balances on a poise between several possibilities, inclines to one side or another, settles and has the sense of choosing: but it does not see, it is not even dimly aware of the Force behind that has determined its choice. It cannot see it, because that Force is something total and to our eyes indeterminate.
Behind this petty instrumental action of the human will there is something vast and powerful and eternal that oversees the trend of the inclination and presses on the turn of the will. There is a total Truth in Nature greater than our individual choice. This apparently self-acting mechanism of Nature conceals an immanent divine Will that compels and guides it and shapes its purposes. But you cannot feel or know that Will while you are shut up in your narrow cell of personality, blinded and chained to your viewpoint of the ego and its desires.
For you can wholly respond to it only when you are impersonalized [embodied] by knowledge and widened to see all things in the self and in God and the self and God in all things. The state of ignorance in which you believe that you are the doer of your acts persists so long as it is necessary for your development; but as soon as you are capable of passing into a higher condition, you begin to see that you are an instrument of the one consciousness; you take a step upward and you rise to a higher conscious level.”
– Sri Aurobindo, The Synthesis of Yoga
ErtheVessel
17th July 2024, 23:30
Bright Skies, I appreciate your posts (#437, 470) and your willingness to bring attention so eloquently to the current state of the Avalon forum.
I had hoped there would be a measured and really intelligent exploration of the larger picture and motivations behind the entire Trump rally drama.
Just as throughout the world, however, something on Avalon seems to be steering us in a different direction. Any true exploration, such as yours, is ignored or even ridiculed.
I believe Trump is a dangerous narcissistic psychopath, but so is everyone else in politics right now. Would I vote for him? I might - that is not the point of my post at the moment.
The point is that there is something larger going on, not who did what to whom or how incompetent any particular person/people were or how many guns there were or who his parents are, etc. Real people got killed and wounded. That is a fact. Psychopaths truly do not care who gets killed collaterally when they have an agenda.
As far as I'm concerned, they are all in this together. There is a larger end game that we are not seeing. We need to look.
What is a possible intention of this whole drama? Is it to win the election for Trump? I don't think that's the simple answer. I think the globalists have a much bigger picture in mind.
The intent of the globalists, the Satanists, the Illuminati, whatever you want to call them, is, as far as I'm concerned, to destroy the U.S. from the inside. To destroy the heart of the American people.
This is my question and my concern. How did what happened at the Trump rally further that goal? This is what I would like to explore because there are no good guys or bad guys in current politics anymore. They are all bad guys.
This is my current theory:
I believe that a result of this drama has been to further divide the people of this country.
The glorification of Trump seems to be off the charts at this point. This is never a good thing.
We are under psychological attack.
For those who are 100% believing that Trump will save them or rescue them from anything or make anything right in this country, THEY WILL BE BETRAYED. It is a given. ALL psychopaths will eventually betray their targets. That is the nature of psychopathy. They cannot do anything else. They are not like normal human people who have normal functioning consciences.
Yes, Trump has been incredibly kind to people. I do not doubt that for one second. But read some true crime books. Read about Ted Bundy. I have no idea what a betrayal from Trump might look like, nor am I suggesting he is a mass murderer. I am simply saying that he, as far as I'm concerned, is not the man he appears to be.
That is why betrayal is such a profound and destabilizing trauma. That is what makes it so debilitating to those who survive betrayal trauma from a psychopath. "He seemed to be so kind. He seemed to really want to help. He seemed to care," etc.
If Trump betrays his devoted followers, what will that do to the U.S.? I really mean that. Betrayal trauma is one of the worst, most destabilizing kinds of psychological conditions you can experience. There are a lot of very naive and psychologically unsophisticated people in this country who will not be able to deal with that kind of scenario. Besides the fact that we have been emotionally beaten down for a number of years now and our psychological resilience is at a very low ebb.
To me, this is a signal that we are in new territory. No one is going to save us. No one is even going to make it a little bit better. We have to learn new things.
What was the quote TargeT had in his footer?
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create bad times.
Bad times create strong men.
We each need to be strong, smart, careful, resilient, wise, resourceful and independent.
Bill Ryan
18th July 2024, 00:02
The intent of the globalists, the Satanists, the Illuminati, whatever you want to call them, is, as far as I'm concerned, to destroy the U.S. from the inside. To destroy the heart of the American people.
This is my question and my concern. How did what happened at the Trump rally further that goal? This might be one answer — not what happened, but what was intended to happen.
I posted this (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1622536&viewfull=1#post1622536) a few hours after the shooting:
~~~
No-one's mentioned this yet that I know of, but it's worth stepping for a moment into the Sliding Doors alternative reality, just half an inch away, in which Trump was violently killed a few hours ago on live TV.
Civil War would be beginning this very evening with thousands of enraged, well-armed militants taking out every Trump-hating Democrat they thought they could identify. Then martial law, troops on the streets, and all the rest. We have a lot to be thankful for.
Arcturian108
18th July 2024, 00:25
Trump had no reason to fake his own assassination. He is already set to win in a landslide if the elections can be kept fair. The risk of such a manoeuvre is not worth the minimal gain.
Of course the Democrats and their lackeys pulled this caper. They cannot win with a corpse against such a formidable opponent who is noticeably alive.
But they blew it. Because for them the risk was worth it - they had nothing to lose.
It's logical to think they are not done and will try again. These psychopaths are desperate and have reached the point that it is now justified in their minds to just kill him. It's obvious, well, beyond obvious now.
Trump has an extremely dangerous and deadly gauntlet to wiggle his way through until November, and then if he wins, for the following 4 years. His whole family needs to be extremely protected.
I personally feel they were 99% sure they wouldn't fail Saturday. The shooter had a well planned out access and position to make an extremely easy shot.
The evil ones are really pissed now and it's game on, they will get even more brazen and insane now. There's no way in my mind I think they will kick back and say it's over and just accept Trump will likely win in November.
I do believe that killing such a prominent individual doesn't have to be a public spectacle. (Although traumatizing the public in this way is probably one of their agendas.) I am sure there are much more sophisticated methods now to kill somebody, with no one being the wiser. I discussed this with my significant other, and he said that the powers that be don't want that kind of killing well-known, so that's why they wouldn't do it that way.
And after watching a doctor analyze Trump's behavior following being shot (earlier in this thread somewhere), the doctor said that Trump will be affected by post-traumatic stress syndrome. He said that was inevitable. And my husband already has seen evidence of this in Trump's demeaner at the current Republican conference. And I now believe that every rally event that is on the schedule for Trump will only retrigger such PTSD.
SilentFeathers
18th July 2024, 00:26
I extracted the attached frame grab from the Peak Prosperity Video Bill included in an earlier post that I think you are referring to. On the right side, we can see hydraulic fluid spraying out, which is an expansion of the overal image on the left side. Click on the image below to see full resolution image.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53397&d=1721256037&thumb=1
I've been looking at this picture over and over of the "line of fire" and it really did make me think even deeper about a few things. The elevation almost doesn't look possible for the shooter to actually hit the crane so high up to burst the hydraulics.
Sometimes they make you see what they want you to see.......
1. From actual aerial view of the shooters body this is really almost the exact location of where he was. Yet, dozens of diagrams on news clips, youtube videos, etc etc show him located at the other end of the building, why?
2. They are constantly showing the 2 snipers when facing Trump above his left, when it was highly likely it was the sniper team above Trump on the southern building that actually were the ones that killed the shooter, why?
3. They are now admitting some sort of sniper team was inside the building the shooter was on doing surveillance, this makes no sense and sounds quite idiotic considering the shooter was on the roof above them.
By all means using common sense the first shot was actually the kill shot. By divine intervention or just pure luck Trump turned his head the perfect micro second that first shot was fired and it just clipped his ear.
What if???????????? (PURE SPECULATION)
What if that first kill shot actually came from inside the building through one of the windows directly below the shooter, likely the window to his left? Perhaps it was the first 2 or 3 shots. Trump got his ear clipped and the crane also got hit.
What if the quick burst of shots actually came from the shooter on the roof and were the bullets that hit the people in the stands?
Last shot was from the sniper on the "south roof" behind Trump that took the shooter on the roof out?
Yes, my mind is probably over-thinking this and probably quite scrambled after so many hours of studying this whole event. But, at this point and after so many completely insane and ridiculous developments, I honestly believe anything is possible.
Satori
18th July 2024, 00:35
Bright Skies, I appreciate your posts (#437, 470) and your willingness to bring attention so eloquently to the current state of the Avalon forum.
I had hoped there would be a measured and really intelligent exploration of the larger picture and motivations behind the entire Trump rally drama.
Just as throughout the world, however, something on Avalon seems to be steering us in a different direction. Any true exploration, such as yours, is ignored or even ridiculed.
I believe Trump is a dangerous narcissistic psychopath, but so is everyone else in politics right now. Would I vote for him? I might - that is not the point of my post at the moment.
The point is that there is something larger going on, not who did what to whom or how incompetent any particular person/people were or how many guns there were or who his parents are, etc. Real people got killed and wounded. That is a fact. Psychopaths truly do not care who gets killed collaterally when they have an agenda.
As far as I'm concerned, they are all in this together. There is a larger end game that we are not seeing. We need to look.
What is a possible intention of this whole drama? Is it to win the election for Trump? I don't think that's the simple answer. I think the globalists have a much bigger picture in mind.
The intent of the globalists, the Satanists, the Illuminati, whatever you want to call them, is, as far as I'm concerned, to destroy the U.S. from the inside. To destroy the heart of the American people.
This is my question and my concern. How did what happened at the Trump rally further that goal? This is what I would like to explore because there are no good guys or bad guys in current politics anymore. They are all bad guys.
This is my current theory:
I believe that a result of this drama has been to further divide the people of this country.
The glorification of Trump seems to be off the charts at this point. This is never a good thing.
We are under psychological attack.
For those who are 100% believing that Trump will save them or rescue them from anything or make anything right in this country, THEY WILL BE BETRAYED. It is a given. ALL psychopaths will eventually betray their targets. That is the nature of psychopathy. They cannot do anything else. They are not like normal human people who have normal functioning consciences.
Yes, Trump has been incredibly kind to people. I do not doubt that for one second. But read some true crime books. Read about Ted Bundy. I have no idea what a betrayal from Trump might look like, nor am I suggesting he is a mass murderer. I am simply saying that he, as far as I'm concerned, is not the man he appears to be.
That is why betrayal is such a profound and destabilizing trauma. That is what makes it so debilitating to those who survive betrayal trauma from a psychopath. "He seemed to be so kind. He seemed to really want to help. He seemed to care," etc.
If Trump betrays his devoted followers, what will that do to the U.S.? I really mean that. Betrayal trauma is one of the worst, most destabilizing kinds of psychological conditions you can experience. There are a lot of very naive and psychologically unsophisticated people in this country who will not be able to deal with that kind of scenario. Besides the fact that we have been emotionally beaten down for a number of years now and our psychological resilience is at a very low ebb.
To me, this is a signal that we are in new territory. No one is going to save us. No one is even going to make it a little bit better. We have to learn new things.
What was the quote TargeT had in his footer?
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create bad times.
Bad times create strong men.
We each need to be strong, smart, careful, resilient, wise, resourceful and independent.
I like your post very much. Thank you.
I politely add that we (nationally and globally) have been, and are being, betrayed for decades in recent history and for centuries the historians among you can speak to much better than me.
I do not see Trump’s selection to the POTUS as a betrayal as if the was something new; as we are being betrayed at all times.
A process and program of action must begin now!!
A process/program to begin the end of betrayal. Begin the end!
Trump may be…. Repeat, may be, a start to the beginning of the end of tyranny nationally and globally. In my view, Biden and his handlers are not.
But in the final analysis it is we, the people, nationally and globally, who must begin the end.
For what it’s worth.
thepainterdoug
18th July 2024, 01:12
Erthevessel. you believe trump is a dangerous narcissistic psychopath? Do you have any solid info on that to substantiate it? Or is it personal belief?
Tte same personal belief all the marching in step MSM Zombies believe regarding him being Hitler.
We had 4 years of his psychopath actions. How was he dangerous? Oh I know how, he was dangerous to the established war machine that needs conflict in order to survive.
People want leaders to step up for them. What a joke people are. the average person folds his tent with the least adversity and yet somehow, these people who dare to sacrifice their life of safety and comfort , step up and get torn apart and judged by afar just for the very fact that they do step up.
i Know DJT marginally from the golf club and he wished me a very happy birthday, stopping his security team to take a picture with me. my friend knows him on a weekly basis. Every golfer on tour, every sports personality that visits the course are in amazement and awe of him. He is kind and makes time for anyone at the course and it never ends 24 hours a day people wanting a picture, wanting to speak to him. He doesn't drink booze and works all damn day.
Some dangerous psychopath you have teed up here
SilentFeathers
18th July 2024, 01:22
Trump had no reason to fake his own assassination. He is already set to win in a landslide if the elections can be kept fair. The risk of such a manoeuvre is not worth the minimal gain.
Of course the Democrats and their lackeys pulled this caper. They cannot win with a corpse against such a formidable opponent who is noticeably alive.
But they blew it. Because for them the risk was worth it - they had nothing to lose.
It's logical to think they are not done and will try again. These psychopaths are desperate and have reached the point that it is now justified in their minds to just kill him. It's obvious, well, beyond obvious now.
Trump has an extremely dangerous and deadly gauntlet to wiggle his way through until November, and then if he wins, for the following 4 years. His whole family needs to be extremely protected.
I personally feel they were 99% sure they wouldn't fail Saturday. The shooter had a well planned out access and position to make an extremely easy shot.
The evil ones are really pissed now and it's game on, they will get even more brazen and insane now. There's no way in my mind I think they will kick back and say it's over and just accept Trump will likely win in November.
I do believe that killing such a prominent individual doesn't have to be a public spectacle. (Although traumatizing the public in this way is probably one of their agendas.) I am sure there are much more sophisticated methods now to kill somebody, with no one being the wiser. I discussed this with my significant other, and he said that the powers that be don't want that kind of killing well-known, so that's why they wouldn't do it that way.
And after watching a doctor analyze Trump's behavior following being shot (earlier in this thread somewhere), the doctor said that Trump will be affected by post-traumatic stress syndrome. He said that was inevitable. And my husband already has seen evidence of this in Trump's demeaner at the current Republican conference. And I now believe that every rally event that is on the schedule for Trump will only retrigger such PTSD.
I personally think they absolutely want Trumps elimination seen by everyone as some type of demonic visual and messaging ritual.
I'm sure Trump will go through some tough emotions over this NDE, I know I would. I think he'll handle it better than many would. This absolutely has to be a life changing event for him.
norman
18th July 2024, 01:48
Never forget. Love him or hate him, the people who went to so much trouble to do this are really really pissed.
https://t.me/dailyrealtimenews/28567
dailyrealtimenews/28567
ErtheVessel
18th July 2024, 02:01
Doug, I have a lot of respect for you and for the posts and threads you have contributed here over the years. And I understand that you have had occasion to meet Trump personally and that you think well of him.
I do not intend to disrespect you personally in any way.
I have not previously conveyed my personal feelings about Trump on this forum because of exactly this kind of reaction.
I have no way to explain to you why I have come to the conclusion that Trump is a psychopath other than saying I have spent many years studying psychopathy on my own because of an extremely devastating personal experience with someone I now consider to be a psychopath. I was naive. I was trusting. I was filled with hope and an expectation of good will. And I am not a stupid person. There are years of psychological processing, integration of life experience, and science learned from others, that helped me grow and learn and move into a place of strength and self-awareness in order to recover from the devastation. I could not convey all of that in one simple post.
I have watched Trump carefully. Very carefully. And I have studied and tried to be honest with myself and move past any emotional reactivity or bias. I do not speak emotionally or even derogatorily of Trump, if you can imagine that's possible. I am just stating what I believe to be a fact. I would never stand on a mountaintop and vilify him. I would never make podcasts about him being a monster or anything of the sort. Because it doesn't really matter to me. In my view, we are currently surrounded by psychopaths and that is just a fact. My job is how to navigate the territory and genuinely not expect anyone to save me ever.
The point of my post was not to start an emotional war on whether or not Trump is a good man or a dangerous man. I understand things were good for the U.S. during the years he was president. I understand that he has a following of people who are quite convinced he will make a difference and life will be better if he becomes president again.
Your post indicates to me exactly what I was trying to convey - we cannot have a conversation about any of this at all on Avalon because of a certain quality of emotional reactivity. So what if I think Trump is a psychopath? That was not the point of my post. It really wasn't. I am not like Bojancan of the "Trump is NOT the answer" thread. I'm trying to look further than that and have a conversation about how we can move forward as a country while being wise, self-aware and self-sufficient as a people. That is what this country was founded on.
The globalists are intentionally causing global destruction. Trump, whether he is a good man or a psychopath, is not going to stop that. He may delay it for a while, but he cannot stop it.
Delight
18th July 2024, 02:19
Jeff Berwick considers himself a freedom fighter against mankind's two biggest enemies: The State and Central Banks.
A First Look Into The Facts and Evidence Surrounding The Trump "Assassination" Attempt
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Mike
18th July 2024, 02:20
For sure the entire incident is a goldmine of anomalies as has been discussed on this thread (and which very well may be 'The Event' that was predicted to take place on or around the 15th of July based on psychic impressions e.g. Clif High and Dick Allgire).
Yep. People will just not know how to understand this and it will cascade. Now, we are in the realm of hypernovelty and then.....
What I put my faith in still IS the Presence of Divine. People cannot depend any longer on "leaders" and we turn to the INNER connection with A REAL source of GOOD in our relationship to Divine. Why not? it beats nihilism any day.
A lot of people's emotions are through the roof – even here on Project Avalon.
The event has whipped people into a fervour and further polarised the masses which is the purpose of such events. People are literally breaking down into tears of joy at Trump's miraculous survival and comparing him to a deity. On the other hand there are unhinged wokeshevists who cannot contain their rage that Trump was not assassinated.
A perfect way to harvest energy! It is no wonder Clif High and the remote viewers of the Future Forecasting Group picked up so much angst and release language. I expect this state will continue for some time.
Note: I am apolitical and have no emotional attachment to any political leader or political party. I do not believe that any one political leader is the saviour and I do not buy into the controlled 'red team' vs 'blue team' competition. That is why I am analysing the incident in such a detached and dispassionate manner.
"bowing down and worshiping"
So if we :Avalon: do not follow your assumed narrative, we suppose to be "bowing down and worshiping" world leaders?
Really?
Perhaps this is the case for some individuals.
As I said in my post "so many have been sucked right back into the left-right paradigm of control". I have observed this trend over time and I know of some individuals in the so-called 'freedom movement' that I have participated in that have reverted back to this black and white way of thinking where they are giving unwavering support to a political leader and party.
(For example, a person I know made a trip to Russia in March as part of a delegation to act as an 'independent' observer for the recent election and afterwards after meeting with government officials appeared on Russian state television praising Putin and the transparency of the Russian electoral process. I obviously disagree with this person and I know for a fact that this person is interacting with Russian governmental assets and his trip was a contrived propaganda exercise.)
As for "we" at Project Avalon, it is not helpful to over-generalise and you don't speak for every Avalonian – you only speak for yourself. (And if I over-generalised in my initial comments I should not have and I apologise).
:twitch::crazy::facepalm:
I never thought I'd see the day that I would be mocked on Project Avalon with 'crazy' and 'facepalm' emojis for not trusting a politician and suggesting that both sides are controlled.
If that's how things are going to go down there is no point in participating here further.
I hope you keep participating! I disagree with you on a few things, but I'm pleased we have a space where we can disagree. That's a real blessing.
It's true that emotions are thru the roof, but sometimes it's the appropriate response. Being dispassionate certainly has its merits sometimes, but to be frank often sounds like an excuse to avoid the fight in favor of fence-sitting moralizing.
The war has already begun. The flood gates have been flung open. No amount of dispassionate restraint will stop that now. Now is the time to act. And having witnessed not just the last few days but the last few presidential cycles, it should be obvious where our support should go (speaking of the situation in America here). I don't view Trump as a savior, but he's a crucial component - among many - towards saving the country. It all begins with his election.
To declare support is not to offer worship. And it needn't make one a Republican or a Democrat necessarily. The fight is neither for candidate nor party, but for country. Even if you don't believe there is a right side and a wrong side in all this, surely you believe there is a better side and a worse side. And when the sh!t is hitting the fan and literally everything is on the line, you're obliged to choose. Me, I'm not going to go down dispassionately. If I go down, I'm going down passionately.. all guns blazing.
I've spent the last few years exhaustively parsing all this out intellectually, and I've reached the limits of my abilities there. I'm not abandoning my mind, but at this point it's going to be energy, passion, faith, and a willingness to fight that will get us past the finish line.
thepainterdoug
18th July 2024, 02:22
ertheV
I appreciate you writing. i want to be clear, its not that I have an issue with varying opinions, I have accepted and handled plenty of non trump supporters here
Its that I am tired of no one putting up examples, no one giving me anything to take away so I can say, Hey man yeah thats correct. He did do that.
i would say my biggest issue with him is the vaxx, but i have already thought through a good deal of it and think it far fetched he wanted to create a deadly vaxx, and was caught between fauci and a hard deep state place.
The last point I want to make is, does anyone realize this is it! Its the globalist psycho lib dems or TRUMP! THATS IT!
Will you be fine with hillary? any less psycho in your assessment? 100 bodies? bengazi ,libya, Iraq, bleached hard drives, smashed cell phone? yellowcake deal to russia.
Biden? Bush? psychos? they all are
we have one choice to keep american soverighty . RFK wont make it.
thanks again, Im fine with your not liking him, but think this thru, THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE.
what good is Bojancan and others doing if this is the only choice? Or are some actually going to say, WEre VOTING BIDEN HARRIS?
god, get me off this planet
peace
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norman
18th July 2024, 02:26
The 'American Glass Research' Water Tower, in line of sight with Trump's podium position.
My conclusion:
It looks like a place a sniper could shoot from but not a place a sniper WOULD shoot from. The trees behind it don't look mature enough to support a sniper at a suitable height either.
Google images are always out of date so things could be different now than when this image was captured.
https://i.vgy.me/E5UvS4.jpg
thepainterdoug
18th July 2024, 02:48
delight/ forgive my impatience but i only watched half. I get what hes saying, its the wwwrestling show, and so on. they are all in on it etc
but heres my issue, THERE IS NO SOLUTION! it cannot be voted out, it cannot even be rebellion'd out. It all what we have. Thats it
Nothing actionable.
So again, Ill take a return to the fake WWf previous Trump term of no wars, no inflation and cheap gas, so we can live our fake ****ing lives of slavery.
Knowing your under a slave system, does not help you find a way out of it.
and sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar
ErtheVessel
18th July 2024, 02:51
Thanks, Doug.
Yes, I take your point. As I mentioned in one of my posts: Would I vote for him? Yes, I might. (And I have in the past.) I do agree with you heartily on the dearth of options.
As far as examples, I will give that some thought to see if I can come up with something bite-size that I can communicate succinctly and accurately. I realize that the anti-Trump camp is almost entirely mindless hysteria and/or inaccurate and contrived slander.
I appreciate your response and, as always, your heart.
SilentFeathers
18th July 2024, 03:04
I can't believe Kim Cheatle showed up at the Republican National Convention. The arrogance is astonishing!
You can't understand much of what is being said in this video but what is she thinking?
She had to know it would be like walking in to a hornets nest!
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norman
18th July 2024, 03:06
https://t.me/insiderpaper/29242
insiderpaper/29242
Sounds familiar.
https://t.me/beholdisraelchannel/35592
beholdisraelchannel/35592
T Smith
18th July 2024, 04:13
For anyone who still may possibly believe or suspect that this was somehow 'staged', with actors, fake blood, and no-one who really died, do watch Clayton Morris' very emotional interview with witness Melody Hook, starting in at 17:30 on the Redacted episode for today. It's instructive. :flower:
Disturbing New Details in Trump Assassination Plot Exposed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsYzm-BxQmo
If this were staged, then it was staged with intent to sacrifice the innocent. There is no other way to explain this. Corey Comperatore was shot and is dead. There is no question or debate about that. Based on the evidence, including multiple eye-witness reports, I find any suggestion to the contrary absurdly ridiculous and a colossal stretch.
At the 25:12 mark Melody Hooks then asks the question (pleadingly), "...I want answers. I want to know why we all put in such danger?"
Huh? (And I mean no disrespect) But that's your question? Really? You want to know why? If so, I'll tell you why. Because they all wanted to kill Donald Trump--including those tasked with the responsibility to ensure your safety. You so happened to be in the cross fire. Sorry. You were in the wrong place, at the wrong time. Nothing personal. That's why. Period.
This is tragic, and incredibly horrific and sad, but there is nothing complicated or confusing about it. There is no basis for questions. The answer is obvious.
This was an assassination conspiracy.
ThePythonicCow
18th July 2024, 05:05
The trees behind it don't look mature enough to support a sniper at a suitable height either.
Deciduous trees that bereft of leaves, in that geography (I grew up in a similar geography) are trees in winter.
Those trees now, mid-summer, are dense with leaves.
Much can be explained, regarding which sniper positions (whether used by threat snipers or protective security snipers) had lines of sight to which other snipers and to the protectee (Trump), through those trees dense with foliage, that day.
As I wrote in my own above post #452 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623324&viewfull=1#post1623324):
Here's the best analysis I've read so far of what happened at the attempted assassination of Trump in Butler, PA.:
Trump assassination attempt: separating fact from fiction, in ArnGrimR's Substack (https://arngrimr.substack.com/p/trump-assassination-attempt-separating)
I had been figuring out in two dimensions the locations of buildings, bleachers, shooter, Trump, ... fairly carefully in my own studies, but ArnGrimR goes the extra mile and figures out their positions in three dimensions, and the resulting lines of sight.
jaybee
18th July 2024, 05:22
Erthevessel. you believe trump is a dangerous narcissistic psychopath? Do you have any solid info on that to substantiate it? Or is it personal belief?
Tte same personal belief all the marching in step MSM Zombies believe regarding him being Hitler.
We had 4 years of his psychopath actions. How was he dangerous? Oh I know how, he was dangerous to the established war machine that needs conflict in order to survive.
People want leaders to step up for them. What a joke people are. the average person folds his tent with the least adversity and yet somehow, these people who dare to sacrifice their life of safety and comfort , step up and get torn apart and judged by afar just for the very fact that they do step up.
i Know DJT marginally from the golf club and he wished me a very happy birthday, stopping his security team to take a picture with me. my friend knows him on a weekly basis. Every golfer on tour, every sports personality that visits the course are in amazement and awe of him. He is kind and makes time for anyone at the course and it never ends 24 hours a day people wanting a picture, wanting to speak to him. He doesn't drink booze and works all damn day.
Some dangerous psychopath you have teed up here
Thank you for your post Doug.....
I think excessive cynicism and intellectualized name calling - ie the 'slagging off' - (of Trump) is just another form of TDS - and comes, basically from fear...........whether that fear lies in paid Deep State propagandists (called influencers in modern parlance) or genuine truth seekers....they dare not hope - dare not believe - take refuge in focusing on the negative - and there will probably always be a negative slant to be found somewhere...
I presume that the rock bottom basis of the vicious Anti Trump PSYOP is to mold perception so that people think that they have formulated their own opinion - not had that opinion formulated for them - it's a sick old game that's being played out and..... IMO.....Trump's miraculous survival of the Assassin's Bullet has blindsided many people who were comfortable with their cynicism and negative slant...
It's an incredible thing that happened - how close Trump came to a bullet through the head and death - it's almost like the spectator who had his brain blown out from a stray bullet - the former fire chief Corey Comperatore, took the bullet for him... because the evil plot must have been visualized and chewed over for endless hours - creating a strong thought form - so the evil was drawn away from Trump...somehow... and Corey drew the thought form to himself ....somehow.... denying the outcome that the Haters and Cynics wanted ...
Anyway - I'm blathering on now.... and I haven't even had my first cup of tea :)...it's nearly 6.30 am in the UK...
I've never met Trump in person and I never will but I dare to believe in him and that he is the 'real deal' - while at the same time I'm fully aware that none of us are perfect including him - and it's that vulnerability that makes us human...and humble...
I want to finish with this....(crowds at Trump Rallies are always chanting about love and this is a random example from 3 years ago)
"Don't say that, I'll start to cry," President Trump says to the crowd in MI chanting "WE LOVE YOU!"(0:44)
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jaybee
18th July 2024, 05:58
The 'American Glass Research' Water Tower, in line of sight with Trump's podium position.
My conclusion:
It looks like a place a sniper could shoot from but not a place a sniper WOULD shoot from. The trees behind it don't look mature enough to support a sniper at a suitable height either.
Google images are always out of date so things could be different now than when this image was captured.
https://i.vgy.me/E5UvS4.jpg
That Water Tower makes me think of War of the Worlds.....
https://cdn.flickeringmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/war-of-the-worlds-the-attack-600x319.jpg
pic source (https://www.flickeringmyth.com/the-battle-for-earth-begins-war-of-the-worlds-the-attack-trailer/)
cue spooky music.... :baby:
:pray:
T Smith
18th July 2024, 06:18
Bright Skies, I appreciate your posts (#437, 470) and your willingness to bring attention so eloquently to the current state of the Avalon forum.
I had hoped there would be a measured and really intelligent exploration of the larger picture and motivations behind the entire Trump rally drama.
Just as throughout the world, however, something on Avalon seems to be steering us in a different direction. Any true exploration, such as yours, is ignored or even ridiculed.
I've read through almost every post in this thread. Who is ridiculing? I, for one, will consider any perspective or larger picture. Let's bring on the measured and intelligent conversations... .:)
I believe Trump is a dangerous narcissistic psychopath, but so is everyone else in politics right now. Would I vote for him? I might - that is not the point of my post at the moment.
I have said many times, in many conversations, that Trump is a narcissist. That is obvious. But I do not see any evidence he is a psychopath. If I am wrong, or misconstrued in my observations, what am I missing? Specifics would help to convince me. Being a narcissist and psychopath are vastly different psychological profiles. On the other hand, there are many examples he is not a psychopath.
The point is that there is something larger going on, not who did what to whom or how incompetent any particular person/people were or how many guns there were or who his parents are, etc. Real people got killed and wounded. That is a fact. Psychopaths truly do not care who gets killed collaterally when they have an agenda.
Another accusation frequently ascribed to Trump--and I agree with this observation: psychopaths truly do not care who gets killed when they have an agenda. That said, and I'll bite (and I am sincerely interested). What do you think Trump's agenda is that would warrant the sacrifice of Corey Comperatore (and other innocents)? To win the election? (Cuz he already has the votes to win--are you thinking he needed to kill some innocent people to get even more votes he doesn't need?). Or is there some other objective? Whatever it is, it's antithetical to the Deep State/ anti-human/ eugenics agenda (that much is obvious, right?). But if I'm mistaken on that point--if Trump and Deep State are really in league working together--or if there is truly something we need be weary of, what is it? Why does no one do a deeper dive on this?
As far as I'm concerned, they are all in this together. There is a larger end game that we are not seeing. We need to look. What is a possible intention of this whole drama? Is it to win the election for Trump? I don't think that's the simple answer. I think the globalists have a much bigger picture in mind)
It could be. But it certainly doesn't appear to be. The "bad guys" (to simplify) and Trump are not playing nice together in the sandbox. But even if not a ruse, this doesn't necessarily make Trump a good guy--I get it. Although it doesn't necessarily make him a bad buy either, just someone vehemently opposed to those we know for sure are bad guys (apologies for speaking in such generic, simplistic terms, but I trust you get the point I'm making).
To speak directly to your concerns, Trump may disappoint and Trump will certainly become subject to criticism and ire from most of us here should he win the election, but if what we are seeing now is all just theater in some grand ruse to deceive we the people into picking sides, i.e., a "fake" production for some higher objective to dupe, then it has me fooled.
My take? Why enact such an elaborate psyop-- the people are already fooled....
The intent of the globalists, the Satanists, the Illuminati, whatever you want to call them, is, as far as I'm concerned, to destroy the U.S. from the inside. To destroy the heart of the American people.
This is precisely the intent.
This is my question and my concern. How did what happened at the Trump rally further that goal? This is what I would like to explore because there are no good guys or bad guys in current politics anymore. They are all bad guys.
I'm honestly not discounting your concerns. A staged assassination, to make a martyr of Trump, might serve to blindfully astray anti-establishment followers--and specifically those already "on to" the enslavement program afoot on our planet. But my question is, again, given the degree of awareness of this dynamic--or lack thereof--why would such a sophisticated psyop even be necessary?
Tintin
18th July 2024, 10:27
More data points here concerning trading anomalies......
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Text:
I may have found something potentially important.
Can someone please explain to me the extreme disparity between trade Volume and the Day High for Trump’s stock #DJT for Thursday, July 11th and Friday, July 12th (the day before the assassination attempt).
This is directly from TMTG Corp. Look.
Thursday Volume: 3,956,160
Friday Volume: 35,643,508
Thursday Day High: $30.31
Friday Day High: $15,638.32!!!!
That Friday High has to be a mistake right?
Even it is, the extreme swing in volume should definitely warrant further investigation. That is an 801% increase in one day. The day before the attempt on Trumps life.
If that Friday High is real, hold onto your boots my friends I may have discovered something huge.
mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 11:49
more from that source ^
This is a very important string to pull on - but what investigative authority will?
A real investigation would prove the conspiracy and knowledge of the planned event, I suspect.
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1813741190791196826
1813741190791196826
Champagne Joshi
@JoshWalkos
BREAKING🚨🚨
A company called Austin Private Wealth LLC shorted 12,000,000 shares of $DJT via a put option. The filing date is July 12th, the day before the assassination attempt.
They have around $1 Billion in assets under management and this is by far the largest put placed. According to a source the trade represents 6% of total shares and over 16%! of the float of the stock given the fact that Trump owns 60% of the company.
This is a giant bet when you consider their total AUM but wait there’s more…
http://fintel.io/sosh/us/djt
https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1813697570461593859
1813697570461593859
Champagne Joshi
@JoshWalkos
To make things even more interesting, my source tipped me off with the following two images from their Bloomberg terminal.
The screenshot on the left shows the Put by Austin Private Wealth LLC, that was taken earlier this morning. It shows the 120,000 puts.
As you can see their position is by far the largest, the next closest is Citadel Advisors with 16,770.
Here is where it gets interesting, the screenshot to the right was taken later in the day and poof, Austin Private Wealth LLC is nowhere to be found. Why?
https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1813721863736160729
1813721863736160729
Champagne Joshi
@JoshWalkos
·
12h
Austin Private Wealth amended their filing on 7/16 and removed their put option on TMGT 👀
https://sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=1800328&owner=exclude
Champagne Joshi
@JoshWalkos
·
10h
Another interesting thing about the amendment filed on 7/16 is that it is the only one they have ever had. I searched and their first filing was on 2-12-2020.
https://sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=1800328&owner=exclude
Tintin
18th July 2024, 12:13
more from that source ^
This is a very important string to pull on - but what investigative authority will?
A real investigation would prove the conspiracy and knowledge of the planned event, I suspect.
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1813741190791196826
1813741190791196826
Champagne Joshi
@JoshWalkos
BREAKING🚨🚨
A company called Austin Private Wealth LLC shorted 12,000,000 shares of $DJT via a put option. The filing date is July 12th, the day before the assassination attempt.
They have around $1 Billion in assets under management and this is by far the largest put placed. According to a source the trade represents 6% of total shares and over 16%! of the float of the stock given the fact that Trump owns 60% of the company.
This is a giant bet when you consider their total AUM but wait there’s more…
http://fintel.io/sosh/us/djt
https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1813697570461593859
1813697570461593859
Champagne Joshi
@JoshWalkos
To make things even more interesting, my source tipped me off with the following two images from their Bloomberg terminal.
The screenshot on the left shows the Put by Austin Private Wealth LLC, that was taken earlier this morning. It shows the 120,000 puts.
As you can see their position is by far the largest, the next closest is Citadel Advisors with 16,770.
Here is where it gets interesting, the screenshot to the right was taken later in the day and poof, Austin Private Wealth LLC is nowhere to be found. Why?
https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1813721863736160729
1813721863736160729
Champagne Joshi
@JoshWalkos
·
12h
Austin Private Wealth amended their filing on 7/16 and removed their put option on TMGT 👀
https://sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=1800328&owner=exclude
Champagne Joshi
@JoshWalkos
·
10h
Another interesting thing about the amendment filed on 7/16 is that it is the only one they have ever had. I searched and their first filing was on 2-12-2020.
https://sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=1800328&owner=exclude
:clapping: :thumbsup: on the data Jim
"Just like old times, huh?" (muses the late Jack Kennedy, and 3000+ 911 victims >>>:facepalm: )
Bill Ryan
18th July 2024, 12:23
More information continues to accumulate. Here's a new article on Infowars. I don't know how accurate this is, but it once again raises eyebrows high. My own bold emphasis below.
https://infowars.com/posts/snipers-inside-building-used-by-failed-trump-assassin-did-nothing-to-stop-the-attack-says-local-cop
Snipers INSIDE Building Used by Failed Trump Assassin did Nothing to Stop the Attack, says Local Cop
A local law enforcement officer with “direct knowledge” of the situation told CBS News anchor Anna Schecter this week that not one, not two, but three snipers from Beaver County, Penn., were present inside the building (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/snipers-were-inside-building-used-trump-failed-assassin-reported-him-using-range-finder) where shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks reportedly tried to assassinate Donald Trump.
One of the snipers who was stationed on the second floor of the American Glass Research building saw Crooks standing outside and looking up at the roof before climbing to the top to do the deed. Crooks reportedly walked away, returned, and “whipped out his phone” after the sniper snapped a couple pictures of him.
Crooks then proceeded to take out a rangefinder, prompting the sniper to radio a command post. Crooks disappeared after that only to return a third time with a backpack in tow, prompting the snipers to call the command post a second time to report what they saw.
By the time local law enforcement arrived on the scene for backup, Crooks had already climbed to the top of the building where he positioned himself behind the view of the snipers inside the building.
“Two other officers who heard the sniper’s call tried to get onto the roof,” CBS News reported, “but by that time, a Secret Service sniper had already killed Crooks,” according to the officer on scene.
What really happened in Butler?
Take note of the fact that local law enforcement snipers had their eyes on Crooks the entire time, having taken pictures of him and even notifying their command post of his movements. And yet they did nothing about it, allowing Crooks to shoot at Trump, “at which point Secret Service snipers returned fire and killed him,” to quote one media source.
It almost seems as though Beaver County’s police officers were told to stand down while Crooks positioned himself and opened fire. Then and only then did anyone intervene, and at that point it was federal Secret Service rather than the snipers who were inside the building to keep an eye on the situation.
(...the article continues (https://infowars.com/posts/snipers-inside-building-used-by-failed-trump-assassin-did-nothing-to-stop-the-attack-says-local-cop))
Tintin
18th July 2024, 12:34
Concerning Austin Private Wealth LLC, Jason Goodman from CrowdSourceTheTruth speaks to MD, Alex Wagner on the phone.
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Various_%28of_interest%29/2024-07-17_Jason_Goodman_%28CrowdSourceTheTruth%29_phone-call_to_Alex_Wagner_Austin_Private_Wealth_LLC_concerning_Put_filing_ahead_of_assassination_attempt_o n_DJ_Trump.mp4
Mark (Star Mariner)
18th July 2024, 12:40
Its the globalist psycho lib dems or TRUMP! THATS IT!
That's pretty much what it reduces down to. "They" -- the Deep State if you want to call them that, the Elite Class, the Globalist Power-base -- see Trump as a threat to their agendas, and they're using everything in their arsenal to neutralize him. First they tried to cancel him, then impeach him, then indict him. In a bid to squeeze him out of a second term they rigged a national election. But he kept on coming, and coming. They manufactured a series of trumped up charges and tried to put him away (again). They mobilised their propaganda arm - the mainstream media - to attack him, besmirch him and tell lies 24/7 to manipulate public opinion. Didn't work, didn't work. And now, I think, they're down to their last card: they've tried to kill him.
I believe that's exactly what happened at the rally last weekend.
The Office of the President is a middle-management position that takes its orders from higher-up. I strongly suspect that's been the case since Kennedy. No one's saying Trump is a paragon of virtue, but he's no one's puppet either. With him in the hotseat he's a threat to Their authority. And that they cannot allow.
They're pulling out all the stops to prevent him winning another term -- and in doing that defy them for another four years -- and that right there, right there, is why, for all our sakes, he must win.
norman
18th July 2024, 13:13
More information continues to accumulate. Here's a new article on Infowars. I don't know how accurate this is, but it once again raises eyebrows high. My own bold emphasis below.
https://infowars.com/posts/snipers-inside-building-used-by-failed-trump-assassin-did-nothing-to-stop-the-attack-says-local-cop
Snipers INSIDE Building Used by Failed Trump Assassin did Nothing to Stop the Attack, says Local Cop
A local law enforcement officer with “direct knowledge” of the situation told CBS News anchor Anna Schecter this week that not one, not two, but three snipers from Beaver County, Penn., were present inside the building (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/snipers-were-inside-building-used-trump-failed-assassin-reported-him-using-range-finder) where shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks reportedly tried to assassinate Donald Trump.
One of the snipers who was stationed on the second floor of the American Glass Research building saw Crooks standing outside and looking up at the roof before climbing to the top to do the deed. Crooks reportedly walked away, returned, and “whipped out his phone” after the sniper snapped a couple pictures of him.
Crooks then proceeded to take out a rangefinder, prompting the sniper to radio a command post. Crooks disappeared after that only to return a third time with a backpack in tow, prompting the snipers to call the command post a second time to report what they saw.
By the time local law enforcement arrived on the scene for backup, Crooks had already climbed to the top of the building where he positioned himself behind the view of the snipers inside the building.
“Two other officers who heard the sniper’s call tried to get onto the roof,” CBS News reported, “but by that time, a Secret Service sniper had already killed Crooks,” according to the officer on scene.
What really happened in Butler?
Take note of the fact that local law enforcement snipers had their eyes on Crooks the entire time, having taken pictures of him and even notifying their command post of his movements. And yet they did nothing about it, allowing Crooks to shoot at Trump, “at which point Secret Service snipers returned fire and killed him,” to quote one media source.
It almost seems as though Beaver County’s police officers were told to stand down while Crooks positioned himself and opened fire. Then and only then did anyone intervene, and at that point it was federal Secret Service rather than the snipers who were inside the building to keep an eye on the situation.
(...the article continues (https://infowars.com/posts/snipers-inside-building-used-by-failed-trump-assassin-did-nothing-to-stop-the-attack-says-local-cop))
That's a very interesting development and if we get all the matching radio coms to back it up I'll take it as truth.
But . . . .
1) it was CBS.
2) If Crooks was a willing assassin wannabe who thought he was working with networked conspirators within the corrupt police department ( his boldness even knowing people were watching him is indicative that was the case ) those networked conspirators would need to fabricate a complete story to explain why at least one of them was seen WITH Crooks. We were told days ago that a cop 'tackled' him on the roof, but was that cop actually assisting him to get into position, and told a lie to explain his proximity.
Even so, if what I'm suggesting were true, they knew they were only positioning a patsy while the real sniper was inside the building. The Crooks positioning on the roof was a secondary op to the serious business being set up inside so their less stealthy behavior with Crooks was kinda on purpose maybe? . . . .but now they need to wrap up their story and stick to it.
Tintin
18th July 2024, 13:21
Concerning Austin Private Wealth LLC, Jason Goodman from CrowdSourceTheTruth speaks to MD, Alex Wagner on the phone.
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Various_%28of_interest%29/2024-07-17_Jason_Goodman_%28CrowdSourceTheTruth%29_phone-call_to_Alex_Wagner_Austin_Private_Wealth_LLC_concerning_Put_filing_ahead_of_assassination_attempt_o n_DJ_Trump.mp4
...and associated information concerning their donees here. The image scrolls through about 4 pages or so. An interesting roll of recipients...
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Image 1: https://x.com/karitsis78/status/1813755744149463434/photo/1
Image 2: https://x.com/karitsis78/status/1813755744149463434/photo/2
Image 3: https://x.com/karitsis78/status/1813755744149463434/photo/3
Image 4: https://x.com/karitsis78/status/1813755744149463434/photo/4
Bill Ryan
18th July 2024, 13:24
This was streamed yesterday, and I missed it — so I'm just about to watch it now. But while I can't yet comment myself, here's Larry Johnson's own summary posted on his website, https://sonar21.com. Johnson, who is vastly experienced and is nobody's fool, continues to be (rightly!) highly suspicious. It's had 136,000 views already.
~~~
Judge Napolitano is having trouble enjoying his vacation. The fallout surrounding the Secret Service failure to protect Donald Trump is on his mind and he invited me to discuss the latest developments.
I have learned a couple of new things. First, there were two Secret Service counter sniper teams, not one. And it was the second team — one that was not widely photographed — that killed the shooter.
Second, we have learned that Secret Service management pulled Donald Trump’s regular Secret Service detail off for Saturday and replaced them with what can charitably be called, “the third team.” Coincidence? Or deliberate?
~~~
SPECIAL: with Larry Johnson: Trump Assassination Attempt: Incompetence or Complicity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fff-h8Fhhuk
Mark (Star Mariner)
18th July 2024, 13:26
At the 25:12 mark Melody Hooks then asks the question (pleadingly), "...I want answers. I want to know why we all put in such danger?"
Huh? (And I mean no disrespect) But that's your question? Really? You want to know why? If so, I'll tell you why. Because they all wanted to kill Donald Trump
I think what she means by asking this question -- "why were they put in such danger?", was aimed at the Secret Service and Police. If it wasn't for their gross incompetence (or collusion) there would've been no shots, no danger. Crooks would've apprehended long before he climbed out on that roof.
SilentFeathers
18th July 2024, 13:28
Its the globalist psycho lib dems or TRUMP! THATS IT!
That's pretty much what it reduces down to. "They" -- the Deep State if you want to call them that, the Elite Class, the Globalist Power-base -- see Trump as a threat to their agendas, and they're using everything in their arsenal to neutralize him. First they tried to cancel him, then impeach him, then indict him. In a bid to squeeze him out of a second term they rigged a national election. But he kept on coming, and coming. They manufactured a series of trumped up charges and tried to put him away (again). They mobilised their propaganda arm - the mainstream media - to attack him, besmirch him and tell lies 24/7 to manipulate public opinion. Didn't work, didn't work. And now, I think, they're down to their last card: they've tried to kill him.
I believe that's exactly what happened at the rally last weekend.
The Office of the President is a middle-management position that takes its orders from higher-up. I strongly suspect that's been the case since Kennedy. No one's saying Trump is a paragon of virtue, but he's no one's puppet either. With him in the hotseat he's a threat to Their authority. And that they cannot allow.
They're pulling out all the stops to prevent him winning another term -- and in doing that defy them for another four years -- and that right there, right there, is why, for all our sakes, he must win.
The master demon has given the green light to permanently eliminate him and it appears like they don't even care how obvious their intentions are.
They are not going to stop and I feel his whole family is in EXTREME DANGER.
mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 13:34
https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1813906157385523443
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mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 13:41
Matt Walsh also posted, Clif retweeted, but I have not verified accuracy..
later update: X readers added context now added, maybe not valid)
https://x.com/PaulHook_em/status/1813784250032005376
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Anyone wondering why they aren't using this photo of the shooter?
— Paul Hookem 🇺🇸 (@PaulHook_em) July 18, 2024
full image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSvbKcgWYAAl-pG?format=jpg&name=medium
mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 13:48
https://x.com/DiedSuddenly_/status/1813766972720484764
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@DiedSuddenly_
REVEALED: The firm that took the suspicious and enormous bet against President Trump’s Truth Social stock ($DJT) ONE DAY before the assassination attempt is Austin Private Wealth LLC, majority held by George Soros’ Vanguard and BlackRock.
Coincidentally, BlackRock, the party that would have greatly profited from President Trump’s death, included the shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks, in a 2022 promotional video.
Alex Soros infamously shared an Atlantic Magazine cover image which featured a bullet hole in glass, followed by a picture of cash which added up to the number 47, a message some interpreted as a cryptic death threat against President Trump.
Austin Private Wealth LLC is also connected to the late-President George H.W. Bush, who was a client, and through his son, President George W. Bush, who attended events and was involved in the company's charitable initiatives.
Bush family close associate James A. Baker III, a former Secretary of State and H.W.’s White House Chief of Staff, has served as the firms Senior Policy Director since its inception in 2006. Being that this was the largest bet the firm has ever taken, it’s fair to presume Baker had a role in making it.
It’s also important to remember the moment H.W. made a Sicilian style death motion toward a tv showing President Trump decimating his son Jeb during the 2016 Presidential primary.
Lastly, Austin Private Wealth LLC, according to their website, directly supports the ACLU, ADL Austin, Shalom Austin, Jewish Community Center, Camp Young Judaea, Congregation Beth Israel, Austin Jewish Academy, and Hadassah.
https://x.com/catturd2/status/1813921861194911798
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Matt Kohrs
@matt_kohrs
So now the fund betting against $DJT & $RUM before the assassination attempt is saying it was a filing error and it never really happened??? 🤔
Will cover on today's show.
thepainterdoug
18th July 2024, 13:50
Yaybee/ you said-
"I presume that the rock bottom basis of the vicious Anti Trump PSYOP is to mold perception so that people think that they have formulated their own opinion - not had that opinion formulated for them" -
This is great and I agree. People actually believe these are their own thoughts. In fact its perplexing to think, what are my own thoughts? Is it our own thoughts to wear blue jeans? To speak slang the way we do, We since children are influenced the entire way. holidays, movies movies , everything!
And yet, I still believe we can distill down a sense of our own thoughts to some degree. And why I keep pounding the question, give me evidence, show me how Trump, this or that etc
I dont think people can even get to this level of discussion. this is far too nuanced and insightful. i think we have to accept that this is how it is and its going to be an imperfect ride, much like a cross country road race.
and let me say, I don't dislike anyone here on the forum no matter what they say, yes some things irritating, but I'm friends with all that you are even here.
pd
thepainterdoug
18th July 2024, 13:53
Mountain Jim, wow ! now he is a doll!! rawwwrrrr...
Tintin
18th July 2024, 14:24
Okay, so.....bonafide, or no?
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSxqkKWWQAAqO6B?format=jpg&name=medium
Bill Ryan
18th July 2024, 14:33
Okay, so.....bonafide, or no?
1813816175656058955That's VERY hard to see, so I enlarged it and enhanced it by increasing the contrast. Sure enough, there's a figure on the water tower. (On the "after' images he's no longer there.)
https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/water_tower.jpg
The implied question there is that if someone was shot dead on the water tower, that body would be very unlikely to stay in place, and would surely fall to the ground way below.
mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 15:16
Here's another enlargement video (I confess I am not sure what I am seeing here, the shape on top right of the tower center?)
update: would think it would have to be from the walkway with railing around the tower below half-way up.
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1813953734768214241
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🚨🇺🇸 Trump Assassination attempt
Multiple eye witness reports suggest a second shooter atop the water tower.
Footage has now emerged from audience member who spotted assailant & filmed shooting.
— Concerned Citizen (@BGatesIsaPyscho) July 18, 2024
Bill Ryan
18th July 2024, 15:20
Here's another enlargement video
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1813953734768214241
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🚨🇺🇸 Trump Assassination attempt
Multiple eye witness reports suggest a second shooter atop the water tower.
Footage has now emerged from audience member who spotted assailant & filmed shooting.
— Concerned Citizen (@BGatesIsaPyscho) July 18, 2024I have to say, what seems anomalous here is that
It's not prone (i,e. in sniping position), and appears to be standing.
If you enlarge the video, the figure barely seems to move before or after (just a tiny bit, but that might be camera shake or hot air refraction), and certainly doesn't seem to have been shot.
norman
18th July 2024, 15:22
Okay, so.....bonafide, or no?
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That white blob ( water tower) doesn't look like it's in a line of sight with where Trump's head was. It's very much further to the rear of the stage too.
So far, I think that is a photoshop job and "Flat Earth" conspiracy grenade drop.
I'm fine with being proven wrong, but that's my initial response.
mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 15:31
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1813950148415787380
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Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
BREAKING.🚨
Austin Private Wealth, LLC., reported as having "shorted" Truth Social stock prior to Saturday's assassination attempt on the former president, has released a statement.
"The SEC filing which that that Austin Private Wealth shorted a large number of shares of Trump Media & Technology Group Corp (DJT) was incorrect and we immediately amended it as soon as we learned of the error."
"No client of APW holds, or has ever held, a put on DJT in the quantity initially reported. The correct holding amount was 12 contracts, or 1,200 shares — not 12 million shares, as we filed in error. In submitting the required report for the second quarter of 2024, a multiplier was applied by a third-party vendor that increased the number of shares by a multiple of 10,000 for all option contracts (not just DJT). We did not catch the error before approving the filing."
"We filed the report on July 12 to reflect our positions on June 28. We amended it on July 16."
"We deeply regret this error and the concern it has caused, especially at such a fraught moment for our nation. We are committed to full transparency and maintaining the trust of of our clients. As such, we are reviewing our processes with the third-party vendor that assists with SEC filings to better understand how this happened and avoid similar issues moving forward."
This explanation appears to square with prior reporting from @JoshWalkos
that the $DJT Put option was suddenly removed from a Bloomberg terminal list shortly before the Trump shooting.
The "BlackRock connection" mystery appears to be solved.
Gwin Ru
18th July 2024, 15:31
...
... "There's something in them Thar Hills..."
https://i.vgy.me/E5UvS4.jpg
Mark (Star Mariner)
18th July 2024, 15:59
Here's another enlargement video (I confess I am not sure what I am seeing here, the shape on top right of the tower center?)
update: would think it would have to be from the walkway with railing around the tower below half-way up.
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1813953734768214241
1813953734768214241
🚨🇺🇸 Trump Assassination attempt
Multiple eye witness reports suggest a second shooter atop the water tower.
Footage has now emerged from audience member who spotted assailant & filmed shooting.
— Concerned Citizen (@BGatesIsaPyscho) July 18, 2024
Don't think there's anything to see in this water tower footage. The dark speck half way up the dome cannot be a person -- that surface really is too sloped to safely stand on. It appears to be a star decal as seen in the image Gwin Ru shared above. As for a sniper positioned on the lower walkway or gantry...to me it doesn't look like they have line of sight.
Bill Ryan
18th July 2024, 16:00
... "There's something in them Thar Hills..."
https://i.vgy.me/E5UvS4.jpg
There has to be a way up there, as there's a ladder at the left of the very top (curved) section, and a railing round the circumference of the thing.
(Note: that flat circular platform would be a far easier, safer and more logical place to take up a sniper position than the exposed very top.)
But the way to reach that can't be seen on the photo. Assuming there's a large external ladder out of view (behind one of the legs?), anyone climbing that, with a rifle as well, would surely have been seen by someone.
Even for an agile person in good shape (with no fear of heights!!), it might take a good several minutes to get up there — and almost as long to get down, assuming he wasn't shot and fell to the ground. It's another riddle that seems to raise more questions than answers.
Edit to add:
At a rough guess, the platform round the circumference is something like 120 ft (35m) high. That's quite some climb up an exposed vertical metal ladder. I'm increasingly doubting the water tower shooter can be very likely... though of course it has to remain a possibility to be definitively ruled out.
SilentFeathers
18th July 2024, 16:01
... "There's something in them Thar Hills..."
https://i.vgy.me/E5UvS4.jpg
There has to be a way up there, as there's a ladder at the left of the very top (curved) section, and a railing round the circumference of the thing.
But the way to reach that can't be seen on the photo. Assuming there's a large external ladder out of view (behind one of the legs?), anyone climbing that, with a rifle as well, would surely have been seen by someone.
Even for an agile person in good shape (with no fear of heights!!), it might take a good several minutes to get up there — and almost as long to get down, assuming he wasn't shot and fell to the ground. It's another riddle that seems to raise more questions than answers.
I'm not quite buying this (yet). I'm thinking that the 2nd shooter was shooting out the window underneath the 20yr old on the roof. (if there was a second shooter).
They are already saying "a team" were in the building watching through the window (which makes no sense).
There were too many people there with eyes and phones, a single video from one person seeing this makes me suspicious that it's fake.
Never know though, anything is possible.....
mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 16:06
Chris Martenson pointed out that with no evidence of spent shells shown on the roof, and roof hosed down, and no trajectory analysis performed on the shots and victims yet, it all looks like a coverup of What Really Happened.
His team still performing audio analysis to try and prove multiple shooters (or not), he said in yesterday's video.
The Evidence Points To Widespread Insider Pre-Knowledge - Peak Prosperity
7/17
Peak Prosperity
Z3DtFpmHRWs
norman
18th July 2024, 16:31
The location of the water tower is my biggest issue with the 'shooter on the water tower' claim.
https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1813816175656058955
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https://i.vgy.me/WS03NL.jpg
norman
18th July 2024, 17:51
I assume this is a real Trump tweet that Donaldo has dug up.
I don't think the current head of SS has been in the job that long.
https://t.me/RealDonaldoTrumpo/23547
RealDonaldoTrumpo/23547
mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 17:53
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1813983688050544901
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Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
"There is an actual text record that this threat may have been recognized at about 5:01 PM an hour before Donald Trump got on stage."
NEW: @Dbongino with more critical insight on the Trump assassination attempt
Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
Bongino adds: "There are some people telling me that there was a failure in the beginning to properly get that information out."
"The locals and some of the Butler County officials are disputing that saying: 'Hey, we told the Secret Service about the threat and they didn't do anything.'"
The FBI is investigating this attack on Donald Trump's life, so it better produce the communication records in full or it will fuel people's belief in the worst case scenario.
mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 18:13
I assume this is a real Trump tweet that Donaldo has dug up.
I don't think the current head of SS has been in the job that long.
https://t.me/RealDonaldoTrumpo/23547
RealDonaldoTrumpo/23547
Yes it is real
https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1813795565102383461
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full image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSvldHXWsAAKIFg?format=jpg&name=medium
T Smith
18th July 2024, 18:37
Here's another enlargement video (I confess I am not sure what I am seeing here, the shape on top right of the tower center?)
update: would think it would have to be from the walkway with railing around the tower below half-way up.
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1813953734768214241
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🚨🇺🇸 Trump Assassination attempt
Multiple eye witness reports suggest a second shooter atop the water tower.
Footage has now emerged from audience member who spotted assailant & filmed shooting.
— Concerned Citizen (@BGatesIsaPyscho) July 18, 2024
If you were a in the audience, attending the rally, and began filming what looked like a person on the water tower off in the distance (assuming the tower was too far away to discern the person also was carrying a rifle?), and assuming the video and the timeline of the President's speech are in sync, it would take tremendous discipline to keep filming the water tower after--and during the entire time--shots begin popping. It's almost as if the person taking the video has foreknowledge of what's about to happen? But if this is just a spontaneous video of what looks like a person perched on the water tower, at the very least one might expect the person recording to turn the video toward the President at that moment the shots ring out (which seems like the second most logical and spontaneous action to take next to taking cover on the ground?)
But it is very curious. Whenever I see a video like this that emerges, it's always helpful to hear from the person who took the video, to get inside their head to discern motives for filming the tower, etc., to help determine if this real or a distraction/disinformation.
T Smith
18th July 2024, 18:42
I assume this is a real Trump tweet that Donaldo has dug up.
I don't think the current head of SS has been in the job that long.
https://t.me/RealDonaldoTrumpo/23547
RealDonaldoTrumpo/23547
Kimberly Cheatle was appointed in 2022... this tweet, if real, is about Julia Pierson
Mark (Star Mariner)
18th July 2024, 19:00
If
This really was a conspiracy
was orchestrated behind the scenes by black hat actors
and Trump wins in November
then uses his executive powers to appoint a special commission to investigate
...and that commission gets to the bottom of this
Then Treason may well be exposed -
- at the very highest level of power
unmasking the swamp for the whole world to see
proving all the conspiracy theories were right
...that a Deep State DOES exist.
And then the floodgates will open
For a new investigation into the murder of JFK
A new investigation into 9/11
And into all the black money, all the black projects
Which could bring down the entire house of cards.
The motive for killing Trump is, in my opinion, infinitely deeper than just politics. Because he knows all about the black projects from his uncle, physicist John Trump who, allegedly, belonged to the same camp as friend James Forrestal, Secretary of Defence, who was pressing hard for disclosure (and to share all the hidden tech with the world)...before they suicided him by tossing him out of a 16th storey window at Bethesda hospital in 1949.
Trump has also seen the UFO file.
Bill Ryan
18th July 2024, 19:16
If
This really was a conspiracy
was orchestrated behind the scenes by black hat actors
and Trump wins in November
then uses his executive powers to appoint a special commission to investigate
...and that commission gets to the bottom of this
Then Treason may well be exposed -
- at the very highest level of power
unmasking the swamp for the whole world to see
proving all the conspiracy theories were right
...that a Deep State DOES exist.Treason, yes. (At least! Straight-up conspiracy to murder, too, as at least one other person was killed.)
What that means, of course, is that the next 6 months, all the way to January 20, will be increasingly dangerous for Trump. (And of course maybe for Vance as well.) But for sure, he and all around him know that very clearly indeed.
onevoice
18th July 2024, 19:19
I assume this is a real Trump tweet that Donaldo has dug up.
I don't think the current head of SS has been in the job that long.
https://t.me/RealDonaldoTrumpo/23547
RealDonaldoTrumpo/23547
Kimberly Cheatle was appointed in 2022... this tweet, if real, is about Julia Pierson
On October 1, 2014 Julia Pierson was pressured to resign (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/01/secret-service-director-resigns-white-house-security-lapses):
Secret service director Julie Pierson resigns after series of security lapses
First female secret service chief bows to pressure to quit after House hearing revealed evidence chronicling security failures
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/10/1/1412191295046/f9d1e3e5-7e27-4421-808f-e603ec8d1993-2060x1236.jpeg?width=620&dpr=2&s=none
The secret service director, Julia Pierson, testifies before the House oversight and government reform committee on Tuesday. Photograph: Greg E Mathieson, Sr/Rex
The director of the US secret service has resigned amid mounting criticism of her handling of security breaches at the White House and allegations of misleading public statements.
Hours after an unconvincing appearance before the House of Representatives government oversight committee, Julia Pierson tendered her resignation to the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the elite agency.
“Today Julia Pierson, the director of the United States secret service, offered her resignation, and I accepted it. I salute her 30 years of distinguished service to the secret service and the nation,” said the Homeland Security secretary, Jeh Johnson.
Johnson said he was appointing Joseph Clancy, who retired from the secret service in 2011, as interim acting director. “I appreciate his willingness to leave his position in the private sector on very short notice and return to public service for a period,” Johnson said. Clancy, who had worked at Comcast after his retirement, was previously the special agent in charge of the secret service’s presidential protective division.
Johnson also ordered Alejandro Mayorkas, deputy secretary of Homeland Security, to assume control of the inquiry into the fence-jumping incident on 19 September that triggered the latest crisis. According to the White House, the investigation will also examine whether a broader review of the secret service is necessary.
“The president concluded that new leadership of the agency was required,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest said at a press briefing on Wednesday. “In the light of reports ... legitimate questions were raised.” Earnest said Clancy had the confidence of President Obama and the first lady, Michelle Obama, who was reportedly angered by earlier security lapses at the White House, one of which took place while her daughter and mother were in the residence.
The final straw appears to have come from a revelation that Obama was allowed to enter an elevator with an armed man during a trip to Atlanta on September 16 – something White House officials were not told about until minutes before press reports about the incident appeared on Tuesday.
“You can assume that is part of the recent and accumulating reports to which I am referring,” Earnest said when asked if this was the decisive factor in the president withdrawing his previous support for Pierson.
Earnest confirmed that White House officials were not previously told of the security lapse, which involved a security contractor with a criminal record who reportedly behaved oddly, and said such a lapse in normal vetting procedures would be “unacceptable” if true.
“I think it’s in the best interest of the Secret Service and the American public if I step down,” Pierson said in an interview with Bloomberg News. “Congress has lost confidence in my ability to run the agency. The media has made it clear that this is what they expected.”
...
mountain_jim
18th July 2024, 19:51
I was surprised what I posted did not show the tweet with the original Oct 1, 2014 timestamp, as I viewed it at link.
This article shows the original tweet with timestamp
https://headlineusa.com/trump-predicted-secret-service-dei-disaster-10-years-ago/
Trump Predicted Secret Service DEI Disaster 10 Years Ago
'The woman who is the Secret Service Director looks like she is way over her head...'
Posted by
Ken Silva
July 18, 2024
https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/517254712618672128
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(Ken Silva, Headline USA) Saturday’s bumbling performance by Donald Trump’s Secret Service detail would have been comical if it didn’t result in the death of a firefighter, the hospitalization of two others and the near death of the presidential frontrunner.
Nevertheless, the female Secret Service agents have been particularly panned for their Keystone Cop-like performance. One woman agent appeared to have trouble even holstering her gun, while another was pictured seemingly hiding behind Trump when other agents were shielding him.
< snip >
It turns out, Trump predicated such a situation 10 years ago on Twitter.
“The woman who is the Secret Service Director looks like she is way over her head. Why can’t the president appoint the best and the brightest?” Trump tweeted on Oct. 1, 2014, referring to then-director Julia Pierson—who was replaced on the day of Trump’s tweet by Joseph Clancy, according to Wikipedia.
Trump’s 10-year-old post recirculated Thursday, the same day Yahoo News reported more details of the Secret Service’s DEI policies.
According to Yahoo, the executive director of the Secret Services’ Office of Equity, Loucious Hires III, on the official government podcast “Standing Post” in February 2023. The agency said at the time that it was striving to be the “gold standard” of DEI in a recruitment brochure that same year.
meat suit
18th July 2024, 19:58
Here's another enlargement video (I confess I am not sure what I am seeing here, the shape on top right of the tower center?)
update: would think it would have to be from the walkway with railing around the tower below half-way up.
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1813953734768214241
1813953734768214241
🚨🇺🇸 Trump Assassination attempt
Multiple eye witness reports suggest a second shooter atop the water tower.
Footage has now emerged from audience member who spotted assailant & filmed shooting.
— Concerned Citizen (@BGatesIsaPyscho) July 18, 2024
If you were a in the audience, attending the rally, and began filming what looked like a person on the water tower off in the distance (assuming the tower was too far away to discern the person also was carrying a rifle?), and assuming the video and the timeline of the President's speech are in sync, it would take tremendous discipline to keep filming the water tower after--and during the entire time--shots begin popping. It's almost as if the person taking the video has foreknowledge of what's about to happen? But if this is just a spontaneous video of what looks like a person perched on the water tower, at the very least one might expect the person recording to turn the video toward the President at that moment the shots ring out (which seems like the second most logical and spontaneous action to take next to taking cover on the ground?)
But it is very curious. Whenever I see a video like this that emerges, it's always helpful to hear from the person who took the video, to get inside their head to discern motives for filming the tower, etc., to help determine if this real or a distraction/disinformation.
I guess this video may well have been fabricated after the event to muddy the waters re. The 3 snipers in the building underneath Crooks.
Most likely those snipers were supposed to take out Trump with Crooks being the patsy.
Casey Claar
18th July 2024, 20:35
delight/ forgive my impatience but i only watched half. I get what hes saying, its the wwwrestling show, and so on. they are all in on it etc
but heres my issue, THERE IS NO SOLUTION! it cannot be voted out, it cannot even be rebellion'd out. It all what we have. Thats it
Nothing actionable.
So again, Ill take a return to the fake WWf previous Trump term of no wars, no inflation and cheap gas, so we can live our fake ****ing lives of slavery.
Knowing your under a slave system, does not help you find a way out of it.
and sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar
Doug,
I had to stop and reply to this/you. ( everyone else just ignore me because this is spiritual not political related )
There IS a solution and way out of this. It is what most people are not yet fully realizing.
All of the gobbledygook is happening in THREE D, the 3D program is what it is and it is this to help people work through what they personally must in order to navigate further into the dimensions. People tend to think it is the 3D system that has to be changed. It is not -as you are noticing it is not possible to change something outside the self ( not really ). The way through/out is to change ourself. As some might say, to successfully polarize either + or - to a degree in which we make the proverbial grade. This is what creates the leap in paradigms into the next gradient out --> 4D. Which is very similar in appearance indeed to what we are already accustomed to. If done while in the body, one might not even realize right away. The really big difference is that 4D ( through 5-6D ) is galactic space. There is not a confinement to the planet, and of course therefore the awareness of and interaction with extraterrestrial species and races. We have to learn to stop trying to change what is outside of us and bring the attention inward. If we are ( + ) we grow ourselves through love and acceptance ( while the ( - ) grow through fear and resistance ). Growing along the ( + ) bent, requires attention in mind, energy, body, behavior, tendency and action. <-- This is the real work. And it is what in truth changes not just our own inner landscape but the world/environment all around us. The way out is IN. Many of us realize this to a degree but the task at hand is to realize it more. While interfacing and engaging with, in part, the gobbledygook. Watching the mind, the thoughts, where the energy is let to go, the words we speak, etc.. Being in command of it all, and keeping them in ( + ) frequency range. The more we do it, the more we are bound to getter better at it. Onward HO.
SilentFeathers
18th July 2024, 21:36
I can't believe Kim Cheatle showed up at the Republican National Convention. The arrogance is astonishing!
You can't understand much of what is being said in this video but what is she thinking?
She had to know it would be like walking in to a hornets nest!
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I can't confirm this but Trump may have met with Cheatle at the RNC. That would explain why she was there.
norman
18th July 2024, 21:38
The most logical and certain theory of what happened is that the expendable kid providing gun shot noises and bullets from a spot a few feet above the actually killer assassin ( had he not missed ) was a perfect plan.
It would be nuts to have the real assassin coming at it from a significantly different angle. Nothing short of high speed and high definition photography, well set up nearby, would be able to prove that the bullets from a small hole in the wall of the building didn't come from the expendable kid on the roof above.
Why would anyone go running off in the direction the shooting came from when they already had a dead kid on the roof 'where the bullets came from'. ? They wouldn't.
You may wonder why the real shooter didn't have another pop after he missed. Perhaps he did and missed again, but, the important factor is that once the kid on the roof was dead and silent there was no more gunfire cover for him to continue shooting. That raises a question about that generally debunked claim that the protection unit sniper claimed he was told to not shoot the kid. A very good reason to not shoot the kid was because he was the cover for the real assassin who would only be able to shoot while the kid was still alive and popping off his shots.
The pro shooter below may have stipulated that he would only fire while the kid on the roof was firing, or even if he didn't, he would have, for his own sake, not fired without the cover shooting. He was expecting to get paid and walk out of there with another job under his belt, not get snatched by honest cops and spend the next 20 years on death row.
onevoice
18th July 2024, 21:41
Here's another enlargement video (I confess I am not sure what I am seeing here, the shape on top right of the tower center?)
update: would think it would have to be from the walkway with railing around the tower below half-way up.
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1813953734768214241
1813953734768214241
🚨🇺🇸 Trump Assassination attempt
Multiple eye witness reports suggest a second shooter atop the water tower.
Footage has now emerged from audience member who spotted assailant & filmed shooting.
— Concerned Citizen (@BGatesIsaPyscho) July 18, 2024
Don't think there's anything to see in this water tower footage. The dark speck half way up the dome cannot be a person -- that surface really is too sloped to safely stand on. It appears to be a star decal as seen in the image Gwin Ru shared above. As for a sniper positioned on the lower walkway or gantry...to me it doesn't look like they have line of sight.
I added a bold yellow line to show the angle from the water tower to where Trump stood, and it is obvious the angle didn't match what was recorded. Chris Martenson stated in one of his videos that the counter snipers that most people saw did not kill Thomas Crooks. It was the other counter sniper team located in the building to the left of where Trump stood since they had better line of sight that was not interrupted by trees.
https://i.imgur.com/ObxPLmI.jpg
Not only in terms of the compass direction, but also the bullet would be travelling in a substantial downward slope if it was fired from the water tower, which again doesn't match the nearly horizontal track of the bullet trajectory that was captured.
https://i.imgur.com/rQGEtdu.jpg
SilentFeathers
18th July 2024, 21:55
Here's another enlargement video (I confess I am not sure what I am seeing here, the shape on top right of the tower center?)
update: would think it would have to be from the walkway with railing around the tower below half-way up.
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1813953734768214241
1813953734768214241
🚨🇺🇸 Trump Assassination attempt
Multiple eye witness reports suggest a second shooter atop the water tower.
Footage has now emerged from audience member who spotted assailant & filmed shooting.
— Concerned Citizen (@BGatesIsaPyscho) July 18, 2024
Don't think there's anything to see in this water tower footage. The dark speck half way up the dome cannot be a person -- that surface really is too sloped to safely stand on. It appears to be a star decal as seen in the image Gwin Ru shared above. As for a sniper positioned on the lower walkway or gantry...to me it doesn't look like they have line of sight.
I added a bold yellow line to show the angle from the water tower to where Trump stood, and it is obvious the angle didn't match what was recorded. Chris Martenson stated in one of his videos that the counter snipers that most people saw did not kill Thomas Crooks. It was the other counter sniper team located in the building to the left of where Trump stood since they had better line of sight that was not interrupted by trees.
https://i.imgur.com/ObxPLmI.jpg
Not only in terms of the compass direction, but also the bullet would be travelling in a substantial downward slope if it was fired from the water tower, which again doesn't match the nearly horizontal track of the bullet trajectory that was captured.
https://i.imgur.com/rQGEtdu.jpg
This is what I was talking about in a previous post about all these diagrams placing the shooter in the wrong spot on that roof. Its misleading and causes every single angle line to and from him wrong.
Bill Ryan
18th July 2024, 22:50
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Delight
18th July 2024, 22:58
As I have said before, I am on team Humanity in the boat of the Self organizing Collective. This is a different boat than the Ship of Fools. I feel the Presence of an energy at our backs and every time a move is made to squelch the journey, MORE people swim to climb on the boat. I think people of good will are NUMEROUS. This latest murderous act will not be memory holed.
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norman
18th July 2024, 23:06
A document to go digging for.
https://t.me/ShadowofEzra/711
ShadowofEzra/711
onevoice
18th July 2024, 23:42
A document to go digging for.
https://t.me/ShadowofEzra/711
ShadowofEzra/711
Here is the letter to the FBI director Christopher Wray that you referenced:
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2024-07-18%20JDJ%20to%20FBI%20re%20assasination%20attempt.pdf
Jamie
18th July 2024, 23:42
Not sure if this clip has been shown before.
It's of the woman directly behind Trump during the assassination attempt.
She seems so unfazed, as if she knew what was coming. She even seems to give a little smile as Trump drops to the floor and then films.
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Vangelo
18th July 2024, 23:50
I typically do not respond to posts that dehumanize Trump, or anyone else, for that matter. But I believe statements like the following foster the cycle of division and are themselves dangerous:
... I believe Trump is a dangerous narcissistic psychopath ...
I am hoping this post will shed some light on the impact these kinds of words MAY have on those people who support Trump.
Before I begin however, I want to make it perfectly clear that the intent of this post is NOT to suggest the following conclusions and/or implications are attributable to any particular Avalonian in any way. I am simply using that quote as a means to make the following point.
The implications of the quoted statement above is that Trump is a horrific, unredeemable, threatening, person. I don't believe it is a stretch, of any kind, to say that phrase is simply another way of saying he is a Hitler reincarnate. As a matter of fact I have been at many social gatherings over the past 8 years where this was said word for word. Additionally, a quick search of social media will find many examples of this as well.
What does a civilized society do with people like that? Well, if Hitler survived, he would have been tried at Nuremberg and executed. This weekend's events, and the many calls for the next person to "not miss" illustrate this desire from SOME anti-Trump people.
But there is something much more sinister about making declarations like that. And that is the implied beliefs that people who support Trump must also be dangerous, narcissistic, psychopaths who should also be removed from society. A quick search of social media will find many examples of this as well.
So, imagine being a Trump supporter, and you are having a discussion with someone who says "Trump is a dangerous narcissistic psychopath". Well, the natural, normal, emotional response of the Trump supporter would be to feel threatened by what was just said.
The next logical question is ... Who really is the dangerous person?
norman
18th July 2024, 23:52
Not sure if this clip has been showed before.
It's of the woman directly behind Trump during the assassination attempt.
She seems so unfazed, as if she knew what was coming. She even seems to give a little smile as Trump drops to the floor and then films.
eZqsvV8-2yM
If I didn't know better, I swear she was a laser targetter.
There's no such thing as a laser guided bullet, right ?
SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 00:03
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511
From post #511
What if???????????? (PURE SPECULATION)
What if that first kill shot actually came from inside the building through one of the windows directly below the shooter, likely the window to his left? Perhaps it was the first 2 or 3 shots. Trump got his ear clipped and the crane also got hit.
What if the quick burst of shots actually came from the shooter on the roof and were the bullets that hit the people in the stands?
Last shot was from the sniper on the "south roof" behind Trump that took the shooter on the roof out?
Yes, my mind is probably over-thinking this and probably quite scrambled after so many hours of studying this whole event. But, at this point and after so many completely insane and ridiculous developments, I honestly believe anything is possible.
Bill Ryan
19th July 2024, 00:08
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623452&viewfull=1#post1623452)Yes. For anyone following this closely, I'd suggest this new video may be mandatory viewing. (Chris Martenson mentioned he was worried about his own safety, and he said it quite seriously. :flower:)
Satori
19th July 2024, 00:09
Not sure if this clip has been showed before.
It's of the woman directly behind Trump during the assassination attempt.
She seems so unfazed, as if she knew what was coming. She even seems to give a little smile as Trump drops to the floor and then films.
eZqsvV8-2yM
If I didn't know better, I swear she was a laser targetter.
There's no such thing as a laser guided bullet, right ?
It is not my intent to provide more fuel for the this-was-staged theories, but I always found it interesting that Trump said the following just before what seemed to be shots were heard “…if you want to look at something that’s sad take a look at what happens.” Then the crack of gunfire. (That’s an accurate quote or very close to it.)
Bright Skies
19th July 2024, 00:24
Bright Skies, I appreciate your posts (#437, 470) and your willingness to bring attention so eloquently to the current state of the Avalon forum.
I had hoped there would be a measured and really intelligent exploration of the larger picture and motivations behind the entire Trump rally drama.
Just as throughout the world, however, something on Avalon seems to be steering us in a different direction. Any true exploration, such as yours, is ignored or even ridiculed.
Thank you ErtheVessel. Your post is excellent and I thank you for having the courage to post it since your point of view, perhaps like my point of view, is not the most popular at this point in time.
As for this thread I have already shared my point of view and explained myself enough (#437 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News- Channels&p=1623274&viewfull=1#post1623274), #470 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News- Channels&p=1623356&viewfull=1#post1623356) and #501 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News- Channels&p=1623423&viewfull=1#post1623423)) therefore I don't have too much else to add at this point.
I have made an observation and I have shared my observation. I don't think stating "so many have been sucked right back into the left-right paradigm of control" is really all that radical.
I have also received private messages from other users regarding this matter and they are of the opinion that my posts and the points that I have made have been balanced and diplomatic. Thank you to those users – you know who you are.
As for the pushback I received from my posts, pushback is fine, but I'm not interested in interacting with any member who engages in bully tactics and resorts to personal remarks against someone's character simply because they don't agree with someone's point of view. A basic standard of respect and civility must be maintained.
I appreciate everyone's point of view and once again if I do not agree with a point of view I can at least appreciate and understand why a person would come to such a conclusion.
Exiled Australian researcher Brendon O'Connell (https://www.patreon.com/talpiot) who I have recently been in contact with (who has paid a price more than most for expressing points of views – including mysterious deaths of friends and family members) includes the following quote at the end of some of his videos:
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. One should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless yet be determined to make them otherwise." – F. Scott Fitzgerald
(For anyone interested in exploring his research, his current publicly accessible YouTube channel is here (https://www.youtube.com/@Talpiot_Program/videos) – his channels are often wiped.)
The point is that there is something larger going on, not who did what to whom or how incompetent any particular person/people were or how many guns there were or who his parents are, etc. Real people got killed and wounded. That is a fact. Psychopaths truly do not care who gets killed collaterally when they have an agenda.
As far as I'm concerned, they are all in this together. There is a larger end game that we are not seeing. We need to look.
What is a possible intention of this whole drama? Is it to win the election for Trump? I don't think that's the simple answer. I think the globalists have a much bigger picture in mind.
The intent of the globalists, the Satanists, the Illuminati, whatever you want to call them, is, as far as I'm concerned, to destroy the U.S. from the inside. To destroy the heart of the American people.
This is my question and my concern. How did what happened at the Trump rally further that goal? This is what I would like to explore because there are no good guys or bad guys in current politics anymore. They are all bad guys.
This is my current theory:
Hear, hear. You have put it better than I ever could.
You are also located in the US and are on the ground experiencing this right now and your words carry extra weight (and indeed so too the words of other Project Avalon members in the US who are currently in the thick of it).
I hope you keep participating! I disagree with you on a few things, but I'm pleased we have a space where we can disagree. That's a real blessing.
It's true that emotions are thru the roof, but sometimes it's the appropriate response. Being dispassionate certainly has its merits sometimes, but to be frank often sounds like an excuse to avoid the fight in favor of fence-sitting moralizing.
The war has already begun. The flood gates have been flung open. No amount of dispassionate restraint will stop that now. Now is the time to act. And having witnessed not just the last few days but the last few presidential cycles, it should be obvious where our support should go (speaking of the situation in America here). I don't view Trump as a savior, but he's a crucial component - among many - towards saving the country. It all begins with his election.
To declare support is not to offer worship. And it needn't make one a Republican or a Democrat necessarily. The fight is neither for candidate nor party, but for country. Even if you don't believe there is a right side and a wrong side in all this, surely you believe there is a better side and a worse side. And when the sh!t is hitting the fan and literally everything is on the line, you're obliged to choose. Me, I'm not going to go down dispassionately. If I go down, I'm going down passionately.. all guns blazing.
I've spent the last few years exhaustively parsing all this out intellectually, and I've reached the limits of my abilities there. I'm not abandoning my mind, but at this point it's going to be energy, passion, faith, and a willingness to fight that will get us past the finish line.
Thanks a lot Mike. I very much appreciate your post.
Even though I have big questions about Trump and about those he allows to influence him I absolutely understand, on the surface at least, why patriots would be putting their support behind Trump as opposed to the alternative at this critical juncture. I f**king get it. I really do.
Indeed politically, the only option available is to work within the current system even though that system is corrupt and broken at every level. From a left-right perspective, another four years of wokeshevist tyranny will be a disaster and if this occurs their 'long march through the institutions' will be complete and there may be no possible way of rolling it back. (And of course this is not the only thing at stake at this time – perpetual war and the current trajectory of nuclear showdown comes to mind.)
On the matter of wokeshevist tyranny, the following is a presentation from last year given by my colleagues here in Australia that I filmed:
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Be safe and keep on guard from deception from whatever side it may come.
SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 00:28
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623452&viewfull=1#post1623452)Yes. For anyone following this closely, I'd suggest this new video may be mandatory viewing. (Chris Martenson mentioned he was worried about his own safety, and he said it quite seriously. :flower:)
Hell, I better be careful what I say, I've been pretty close with my "guesses" from day one! LOL
The only thing I can really think of though at the moment right now is what a miracle it is for Trump to be alive. This was a kill shot by a pro that at the same time he was squeezing the trigger Trumps head was slowly in motion turning, that first shot for sure missed by micro seconds and just a few millimeters just clipping his ear!
Bill Ryan
19th July 2024, 00:39
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623452&viewfull=1#post1623452)Yes. For anyone following this closely, I'd suggest this new video may be mandatory viewing. (Chris Martenson mentioned he was worried about his own safety, and he said it quite seriously. :flower:)
Hell, I better be careful what I say, I've been pretty close with my "guesses" from day one! LOL
The only thing I can really think of though at the moment right now is what a miracle it is for Trump to be alive. This was a kill shot by a pro that at the same time he was squeezing the trigger Trumps head was slowly in motion turning, that first shot for sure missed by micro seconds and just a few millimeters just clipping his ear!It's all extremely dangerous right now, whether one likes (or supports) Trump or not. That's not what this is about.
When JFK was shot, that changed the nation, whether people voted for or liked JFK or not. It affected everyone. This was intended to have the same result. But this time, it didn't work.
They're not likely to try to take Trump out again. They'll switch tactics. My first guess would be something to trigger WWIII, and my second guess is a covid-style pandemic, but this time far more genuinely lethal. We really do need to be on very high alert.
onevoice
19th July 2024, 00:47
Not sure if this clip has been shown before.
It's of the woman directly behind Trump during the assassination attempt.
She seems so unfazed, as if she knew what was coming. She even seems to give a little smile as Trump drops to the floor and then films.
eZqsvV8-2yM
Chris Martenson addressed this issue. Many people there were saying how thihngs were so loud and many people said that when they heard the gunshots,they thought it was fireworks.
The following is a snapshot of the time mark 28:49 of the YT below it:
https://i.imgur.com/vc4x1c9.jpg
In the following video at time mark: 28:49, notice the man directly behind Trump with his mouth open in shock. There were few others also were in shock when they realized what was happening, but most of the folks were not really paying attention and just enjoying the event.
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kfm27917
19th July 2024, 00:49
And HERE is the background for what we've been watching these last few years.
1) "By any means necessary" get Trump convicted.
2) Pass a law removing Secret Service protection from "disgraced" former protectees.
3) Attempt Trumps assassination.
THIS is the “smoking gun”:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8081/text
H.R. 8081: the DISGRACED Former Protectees Act – or the Denying Infinite Security and
Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely Dishonorable Former
Protectees Act
Fact Sheet
The United States government has long recognized the need to protect Presidents, former Presidents, other high-level officials, and select family members of those officials from harm. Since 1901, that protective mission has been fulfilled by the U.S. Secret Service. Periodically, Congress has reformed the Secret Service’s protective mission, often in response to exigent circumstances. For example, protection was expanded to major party presidential nominees following the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy in 1968. Former President Donald J. Trump’s unprecedented 91 felony charges in Federal and State courts across the country have created a new exigency that Congress must address to ensure Secret Service protection does not interfere with the criminal judicial process and the administration of justice.
The DISGRACED Former Protectees Act would terminate Secret Service protection for individuals who otherwise qualify for it upon sentencing following conviction for a Federal or State felony.
Under current law, Secret Service protection is authorized for some current and former high-level officials and their immediate families. Current law does not contemplate how such protection would occur—or whether it should occur—if a protectee is sentenced to prison following conviction for a felony. As a result, current law may serve as an impediment to the equal administration of justice and present logistical difficulties for both the Secret Service and prison authorities at the Federal and State levels.
This bill would remove the potential for conflicting lines of authority within prisons and allow judges to weigh the sentencing of individuals without having to factor in the logistical concerns of convicts with Secret Service protection.
Is this bill ex post facto and therefore in violation of the Constitution?
No. The Supreme Court in Flemming v. Nestor suggested that there could be situations where the
termination of a benefit may raise ex post facto concerns. However, such a law would have to be shown to have an unlawful, punitive purpose.3 This bill raises no punitive concern. The purpose of this bill is to hand off inmate protection to relevant prison authorities rather than involve the Secret Service. Further, the removal of Secret Service protection does not change the criminal statutes or alter the penalty for crimes. Will this bill apply to former President Trump if he is convicted of a felony?
This measure would apply to former President Trump. It also would apply to all Secret Service protectees convicted and sentenced under felony charges.
1 Spencer S. Hsu, Carol D. Leonnig & Tom Jackman, If Trump is convicted, Secret Service protection may be obstacle to imprisonment,
W ASH . P OST , Aug. 4, 2023, https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/04/trump-criminal-cases-prison-secret-service/.
2 363 U.S. 603 (1960).
3 Id. at 616–17.
What do you think they hoped would happen with this bill?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/script-trumps-assassination-plot-needs-rewriting
thepainterdoug
19th July 2024, 00:56
I am present and awake to the very possibility that it is ALL WWWrestling stuff, all working together, all in concert for a grand illusion, and all with the end game already worked out.
Trump has been pointing to and saying CENTRAL CASTING, CENTRAL CASTING, for a long time. Court cases looming, prison time etc, and yet no fear, no outward concern, and now we see charges being dropped, things falling into place. Was this event and all related a stunt? i have no idea but wouldnt be surprised.
My disgust with the Biden lib commie woke agenda has so angered me that there was no other option then to back the DJT horse. But is it all the same? Was this part of the show, the movie, as my Derek Johnson post showed and stated, that its all a movie, all a show.
So is everything, and I mean EVERYTHING fake? Sports too? Why not? We here at Avalon have certainly looked at the idea that Hitler and Eva Brown were body doubles, Hitler went to Argentina. Add the moon landing , Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing and well all the rest and its quite possible this is some of the same in an amazing slight of hand we are all subject too.
And if so and there is no real way out and no real option or choice,then Ill still go with DJT.
In two weeks there will be another version of this story and what we believed happened. And wait for the DNC and the fireworks that will bring
So buckle up everyone and lets see what happens.
SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 00:57
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623452&viewfull=1#post1623452)Yes. For anyone following this closely, I'd suggest this new video may be mandatory viewing. (Chris Martenson mentioned he was worried about his own safety, and he said it quite seriously. :flower:)
Hell, I better be careful what I say, I've been pretty close with my "guesses" from day one! LOL
The only thing I can really think of though at the moment right now is what a miracle it is for Trump to be alive. This was a kill shot by a pro that at the same time he was squeezing the trigger Trumps head was slowly in motion turning, that first shot for sure missed by micro seconds and just a few millimeters just clipping his ear!It's all extremely dangerous right now, whether one likes (or supports) Trump or not. That's not what this is about.
When JFK was shot, that changed the nation, whether people voted for or liked JFK or not. It affected everyone. This was intended to have the same result. But this time, it didn't work.
They're not likely to try to take Trump out again. They'll switch tactics. My first guess would be something to trigger WWIII, and my second guess is a covid-style pandemic, but this time far more genuinely lethal. We really do need to be on very high alert.
I totally agree, they've just proven to those that are paying attention that it's "game on time". They are not going quietly into the night so to speak. We are about to see angry demons get even more angry.
I think a good thing to take from this event is that regardless of how dark and demonic it seems to be that there is also the other end of the spectrum. It was almost as if some sort of angel slightly pushed Trumps head out of the way. He's suppose to be here for some reason, I have no doubt about that.
norman
19th July 2024, 00:58
They're not likely to try to take Trump out again. They'll switch tactics. My first guess would be something to trigger WWIII, and my second guess is a covid-style pandemic, but this time far more genuinely lethal. We really do need to be on very high alert.
They can up the anti. Lahaina shows us that.
Blue tarp may only be the old version of protection. What's the new safe color going to be ?
onevoice
19th July 2024, 01:12
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623452&viewfull=1#post1623452)Yes. For anyone following this closely, I'd suggest this new video may be mandatory viewing. (Chris Martenson mentioned he was worried about his own safety, and he said it quite seriously. :flower:)
Hell, I better be careful what I say, I've been pretty close with my "guesses" from day one! LOL
The only thing I can really think of though at the moment right now is what a miracle it is for Trump to be alive. This was a kill shot by a pro that at the same time he was squeezing the trigger Trumps head was slowly in motion turning, that first shot for sure missed by micro seconds and just a few millimeters just clipping his ear!It's all extremely dangerous right now, whether one likes (or supports) Trump or not. That's not what this is about.
When JFK was shot, that changed the nation, whether people voted for or liked JFK or not. It affected everyone. This was intended to have the same result. But this time, it didn't work.
They're not likely to try to take Trump out again. They'll switch tactics. My first guess would be something to trigger WWIII, and my second guess is a covid-style pandemic, but this time far more genuinely lethal. We really do need to be on very high alert.
I totally agree, they've just proven to those that are paying attention that it's "game on time". They are not going quietly into the night so to speak. We are about to see angry demons get even more angry.
I think a good thing to take from this event is that regardless of how dark and demonic it seems to be that there is also the other end of the spectrum. It was almost as if some sort of angel slightly pushed Trumps head out of the way. He's suppose to be here for some reason, I have no doubt about that.
I saw a video of one of the attendee, who said that at one point a gust of wind furled the flag to look like an Angel. He saw it as a sign of divine providence. I agree with him.
https://i.imgur.com/uEyhkyc.jpg
ExomatrixTV
19th July 2024, 01:16
Someone Shorted Trump’s Stock Just Before The Assassination Attempt!:
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Following the recent assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump, reports emerged that many unnamed individuals had “shorted” the stock of Trump Media. The suggestion from some quarters has been that at least some of these investors knew in advance that Trump would be assassinated, and as a result the price of his company’s stock would collapse.
After Trump survived the shooting, however, Trump Media’s stock price soared, leaving the shorters holding the bag and presumably losing a sizable amount of money as a consequence.
SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 01:21
I am present and awake to the very possibility that it is ALL WWWrestling stuff, all working together, all in concert for a grand illusion, and all with the end game already worked out.
Trump has been pointing to and saying CENTRAL CASTING, CENTRAL CASTING, for a long time. Court cases looming, prison time etc, and yet no fear, no outward concern, and now we see charges being dropped, things falling into place. Was this event and all related a stunt? i have no idea but wouldnt be surprised.
My disgust with the Biden lib commie woke agenda has so angered me that there was no other option then to back the DJT horse. But is it all the same? Was this part of the show, the movie, as my Derek Johnson post showed and stated, that its all a movie, all a show.
So is everything, and I mean EVERYTHING fake? Sports too? Why not? We here at Avalon have certainly looked at the idea that Hitler and Eva Brown were body doubles, Hitler went to Argentina. Add the moon landing , Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing and well all the rest and its quite possible this is some of the same in an amazing slight of hand we are all subject too.
And if so and there is no real way out and no real option or choice,then Ill still go with DJT.
In two weeks there will be another version of this story and what we believed happened. And wait for the DNC and the fireworks that will bring
So buckle up everyone and lets see what happens.
It's all VERY real, lies are real, deception is real, illusions are real. In my opinion all of this is VERY real.
The unseen realm that has been with us from the beginning is becoming more active, sadly many are drawn to the demonic or negative aspect of it right now.
ExomatrixTV
19th July 2024, 02:08
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Gwin Ru
19th July 2024, 02:21
...
... Ooookkkkaaayyyy... now, one is faced with an extra special magic bullet:
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... see? In that segment, one sees a ricochet quasi simultaneously with body/ies falling... when one listens carefully, this happens with the first of three "Click- Kloks (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623360&viewfull=1#post1623360)" sound sets of bullets flying... that same first "Click-Klok (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623360&viewfull=1#post1623360)" which prompted Trump to swat that bee in his right bonnet... something has to give here because Trump wasn't located between the falling body/ies and the ricochet spot.
Moreover, that trajectory is sub-parallel to the upper edge of the (Trump's) stage right bleacher, below the giant screen Trump is talking about.... maybe one can now get somewhere?
https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Trump_assassination_attempt_ground_plan.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ObxPLmI.jpg
palehorse
19th July 2024, 03:06
3 scenarios that possible happened with Trump, nothing new of course.
from 11:12 to 11:42 one can see clearly the dude rolling in the roof. So the cia agents didn't do anything about that? This whole thing Trump smells like BS to me, bunch of clowns all of them.
https://vigilante.tv/w/gESVZ1qkzoSe4uPaBkK2df
sorry folks I can't embed vigilante videos here, so just click on it to go to their website to watch it.
I am B
19th July 2024, 07:24
I think this hasn't been posted here yet.
Company in Texas shorts a big ammount on Trump's Media Company the day before the attempt, and then blames it on a Clerk who commited a "critical mistake".
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norman
19th July 2024, 07:47
New Footage Shows Complete SS & Law Enforcement Failure to Get Past a Measly Fence
https://rumble.com/v577rdv-new-footage-shows-complete-ss-and-law-enforcement-failure-to-get-past-a-mea.html
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Mark (Star Mariner)
19th July 2024, 13:02
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https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Trump_assassination_attempt_ground_plan.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ObxPLmI.jpg
^^ Both these graphics above are inaccurate in relation to the assassin's position. He was located at the other end of the building - which alters the presumed path of the bullet(s) significantly.
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mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 13:15
Don't know if this is verified or what it may mean. First I have seen this proposed/stated.
https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1814265535200219559
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@TheWakeninq
Breaking: New information reveals the woman in the photo behind Trump, who calmly recorded the shots fired, is Janeen Diguiseppi, assistant Director of the FBI.
updated
https://x.com/nickybateleur/status/1814298182202876127
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Crimea River 🇰🇪🇬🇧
@nickybateleur
These are clearly two completely different women - yet judge, jury, and executioner have already been wheeled out for both of them across the board on social media. The mass hysteria is beyond insane.
mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 13:23
https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1814176870427975999
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full image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS1AP-tW4AA267H?format=jpg&name=medium
Mark (Star Mariner)
19th July 2024, 14:13
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511
From post #511
What if???????????? (PURE SPECULATION)
What if that first kill shot actually came from inside the building through one of the windows directly below the shooter, likely the window to his left? Perhaps it was the first 2 or 3 shots. Trump got his ear clipped and the crane also got hit.
What if the quick burst of shots actually came from the shooter on the roof and were the bullets that hit the people in the stands?
Last shot was from the sniper on the "south roof" behind Trump that took the shooter on the roof out?
Yes, my mind is probably over-thinking this and probably quite scrambled after so many hours of studying this whole event. But, at this point and after so many completely insane and ridiculous developments, I honestly believe anything is possible.
It's a very good suggestion, and a highly plausible one. I managed to find a large, high quality image of the area, and with it created the graphic below depicting a scenario where the second shooter may, hypothetically, have been located -- in the window at the far end of the building.
The sight-line matches up closely with the bullet that struck Trump's ear, and the spectators in the bleachers who were, with fine margins, right on that line.
Link for larger: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53403&d=1721398288
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53403&d=1721398288
Insider Trading In Regards To the Assassination Attempt.
Which suggests some people had a forewarning of the CIC Trump assassination attempt and sought to profit from the event.
The Short- Traitors On Stocks In The Wrong Position:
Donald Trump reaffirmed one main point I have been telling you all. All the wonderful things you are waiting for can happen in earnest. But until we do a mass immigration sweep we will be in this indefinite lull period. But fortunately due to the new security briefings he will be receiving he has those players involved on their backfoot.
By receiving these briefings, Trump can learn about the motives, methods, and identities of those who have tried to harm him in the past. This information can help him identify patterns, track down leads, and potentially prevent future assassination attempts.
Moreover, the security briefings can also provide Trump with insights into the broader geopolitical landscape, including the activities of foreign actors who may be involved in such attempts. This info is invaluable in formulating a comprehensive strategy to counter and uncover what happened.
There was a significant increase in short positions on Trump Media stock (NASDAQ: DJT) in the days leading up to the assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. This surge in short positions indicates that some individuals or organizations had foreknowledge of the plot against Trump's life and sought to profit from the expected turmoil.
Austin Private Wealth LLC, which reportedly shorted 12,000,000 shares of $DJT on July 12, 2024, the day before the assassination attempt on D. Trump.
Millenium, Wolverine Trading, Goldman, Citadel Advisors, Susquehanna, BofA, and Hudson Bay, which are listed as shorting or buying put options in $DJT stock in the weeks and months before the assassination attempt.
Looking at you Mr. Michael O'Brien of Stainless Inc. We know what you did and said. And we didn't forget about Jared Golden, Katie Porter, Angie Craig, Matt Cartwright, Dusty Johnson, Seth Magaziner, Brian Fitzpatrick, Abigail Davis, Dean Phillips, Seth Moulton, etc. These are the individuals who have been mentioned in the context of shorting stocks or having insider knowledge about the assassination. (Allegedly)
These are said to be traders who took out massive short positions against Truth Social in the days leading up to the assassination attempt. Michael McCall, who is mentioned as one of the best insider stock traders in Congress. Who has always been under scrutiny for his side gig in office.
People if I know this information what makes you think D. Trump will not be making a list? And I do not even have security briefings. In general Devin Nunes, the CEO of Trump Media, has penned letters to Congress and the Nasdaq Exchange, calling for probes into suspected illegal short selling activities by several financial firms.
These firms include Apex Clearing, Clear Street, Cobra Trading, Cowen and Company, Curvature Securities, StoneX Securities, TradePro, and Velocity Clearing. The company alleges that these entities may be engaging in "naked" short selling, which is illegal and involves selling shares that have not been borrowed.
But on July 12, 2024, Austin Private Wealth, a $1 billion asset manager, took a substantial short position against Trump Media & Technology Group's stock (DJT). This move was notable not only for its size representing the largest short position the firm had ever taken but also for its timing, just one day before the assassination attempt on D. Trump. This short position amounted to 6% of the total shares and over 16% of the stock's float, making it highly conspicuous.
But these individuals are less than important simply because those on the alphabet agencies have way more to worry about that have stakes in removing D. Trump from political office for various reasons and one of them is avoiding Gitmo. So the incentive is definitely there. And I think D. Trump is going on the offense now that he is getting those security briefings to find out who was behind the assassination attempt.
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SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 14:40
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511
From post #511
What if???????????? (PURE SPECULATION)
What if that first kill shot actually came from inside the building through one of the windows directly below the shooter, likely the window to his left? Perhaps it was the first 2 or 3 shots. Trump got his ear clipped and the crane also got hit.
What if the quick burst of shots actually came from the shooter on the roof and were the bullets that hit the people in the stands?
Last shot was from the sniper on the "south roof" behind Trump that took the shooter on the roof out?
Yes, my mind is probably over-thinking this and probably quite scrambled after so many hours of studying this whole event. But, at this point and after so many completely insane and ridiculous developments, I honestly believe anything is possible.
It's a very good suggestion, and a highly plausible one. I managed to find a large, high quality image of the area, and with it created the graphic below depicting a scenario where the second shooter may, hypothetically, have been located -- in the window at the far end of the building.
The sight-line matches up closely with the bullet that struck Trump's ear, and the spectators in the bleachers who were, with fine margins, right on that line.
Link for larger: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53403&d=1721398288
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53403&d=1721398288
Thanks for posting this photo.
The first bullet or 2 that clipped Trumps ear also hit a bystander and railing in the bleachers possibly ricocheting and blowing the hydraulics in the crane in the 6 o'clock position of the photo.
If you lay a straight edge on the photo lining up with the 3rd window from the right of the building, well, it lines up better in my mind.
If there was a second shooter my guess would be that he was shooting from the second or third window from the right, likely the third, which is also more in alignment with the shooter on the roof, Trump, and Crane area.
I think the kid on the roof is the one that hit those high in the bleachers where to my knowledge Cory was. The 1st 3 shots were more spaced and controlled it seems, the shot burst after sounded more sporadic IMO.
mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 15:07
https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1814302174484320390
1814302174484320390
MJTruthUltra
@MJTruthUltra
🚨 UPDATE: Trump Assassination Attempt— It’s So bad…. Wow
Whistleblowers have come forward stating MOST of Donald Trump's Security on the day of the Assassination Attempt, were NOT Secret Service
The DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel… specifically FOR THIS DAY..
Holy crap… that is suspicious as hell…
SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 15:08
The story gets even more ridiculous!
BREAKING: Whistleblowers allege hardly any Secret Service agents at Trump rally during shooting
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mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 15:12
The short positions were well covered earlier in the thread with more details and screenshots - along with a company-released statement which may have explained it - I am not going to search and repost now
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1813950956972986797
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norman
19th July 2024, 15:14
Whistleblowers have come forward stating MOST of Donald Trump's Security on the day of the Assassination Attempt, were NOT Secret Service
The DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel… specifically FOR THIS DAY..
Holy crap… that is suspicious as hell…
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSh1ccCa8AEBJ0T?format=jpg&name=small
I'm going to go out on a limb (again) and suggest that the reason the head of SS went to the RNC was to meet Trump and brief him on what she now knows about what happened that was under her own nose that she was shut out of. Something similar to when the head of the NSA visited Trump in Trump Tower during the transition.
Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle gets cornered by US Senators demanding answers
https://rumble.com/v57fe0d-secret-se...l?e9s=rel_v1_b
v5535d9/?pub=1yatds
SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 15:22
The whole narrative is collapsing pointing to an obvious and nefarious engineered event. Will anyone be held accountable? I doubt it.
Somethings likely about to happen to draw everyone's attention away from this.....
mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 16:17
https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1814327651982528738
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Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle will appear before the House Oversight Committee on Monday.
This should be fun to watch…
— MJTruthUltra (@MJTruthUltra) July 19, 2024
https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1814315185126944874
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The Vigilant Fox 🦊
@VigilantFox
The Trump assassination attempt reeks of foul play, and now Senator Ron Johnson is getting angry.
In an “infuriating” briefing, Director Kimberly Cheatle revealed that the Secret Service became aware of the shooter over an HOUR before he opened fire.
Ron Johnson is now demanding answers: “How long were the sniper team aware of this individual? How long did they have him in their sights? Did they ask for permission, was permission not granted for them to take out this threat before he opened fire?”
The “mistakes” and “gaffes” made that day led to “an American hero who died protecting his family, two other Americans grievously wounded, and a former president [and] presidential candidate almost assassinated.”
Video:
@SenRonJohnson
Gwin Ru
19th July 2024, 16:20
[...]
It is not my intent to provide more fuel for the this-was-staged theories, but I always found it interesting that Trump said the following just before what seemed to be shots were heard “…if you want to look at something that’s sad take a look at what happens.” Then the crack of gunfire. (That’s an accurate quote or very close to it.)Thank you, Satori, for providing a clue to the major split between "all fake" and "all miraculous" as far as I am concerned: if fake, how was it all synchronized?
Answer: the whole thing was performed as with a classic theatre "cue" for the next line of the script to be enacted:
Romeo:
“…if you want to look at something that’s sad take a look at what happens.”
Juliet:
"Pa-Paw!"
Romeo:
"What's that bee doing here?"
Juliet:
"Pa-Paw!"
"Pa-Paw!"
... in which case, the real miracle is that someone took that video (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623706&viewfull=1#post1623706) and posted it since it represents a tangible evidence for the trajectory of real lead flying around with deadly consequence to make things realer than real.
A final thing to take into account is that a trace of a trajectory is bi-directional... both directions have to be taken into account... not just one that's assumed because of some guy on a roof... welcome to hypernovelty...
mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 16:28
The X Truth engine (narrative evaluation engine) now activated and spreading this
This account has 1 million followers, and he has it pinned to top.
https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1814333797535780960
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The Vigilant Fox 🦊
@VigilantFox
“The Official Story of a Lone Gunman Is COMPLETE BUNK”
Dr. Chris Martenson presents “rock solid audio proof that there were at least two shooters targeting Trump and the crowd.”
Even CNN has acknowledged the presence of gunfire from three distinct weapons: Three shots from Crooks (A), one from the countersniper (C), and five from the mysterious “Weapon B.”
Watch as @ChrisMartenson meticulously breaks down the audio evidence.
Here are his conclusions:
• There were at least two distinctly different [unfriendly] weapons being fired.
• First three shots were further away than the weapon(s) that fired the next 5-7 shots.
• Sonic cracks tell us that they were also fired at Trump’s & audience’s direction (and weren’t taking out Crooks, eg).
• This means that the “lone shooter” story is 100% false.
https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1814335274140283116
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onevoice
19th July 2024, 16:53
Deleted post. It looks more like the Dom Lucre might have been wrong about identifying the woman behind Trump as Janeen DiGuiseppi.
mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 17:08
^ already stated a few posts above, then supposedly debunked as not the FBI person earlier on this page (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623760&viewfull=1#post1623760)
(well to be fair it was said to be not accurate in my update, not original post)
Crimea River 🇰🇪🇬🇧
@nickybateleur
These are clearly two completely different women - yet judge, jury, and executioner have already been wheeled out for both of them across the board on social media. The mass hysteria is beyond insane.
onevoice
19th July 2024, 17:36
Not sure if this clip has been showed before.
It's of the woman directly behind Trump during the assassination attempt.
She seems so unfazed, as if she knew what was coming. She even seems to give a little smile as Trump drops to the floor and then films.
eZqsvV8-2yM
If I didn't know better, I swear she was a laser targetter.
There's no such thing as a laser guided bullet, right ?
Apparently, there is a laser guided bullet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_bullet).
In 2012 Sandia National Laboratories announced a self-guided bullet prototype that could track a target illuminated with a laser designator. The bullet is capable of updating its position 30 times a second and hitting targets over a mile away.
Inversion
19th July 2024, 18:07
Not sure if this clip has been shown before.
It's of the woman directly behind Trump during the assassination attempt.
She seems so unfazed, as if she knew what was coming. She even seems to give a little smile as Trump drops to the floor and then films.
eZqsvV8-2yM
According to this it's Janeen Diguiseppi Assistant Director of the FBI.
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mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 18:31
^ according to others, it is not.
^ already stated a few posts above, then supposedly debunked as not the FBI person earlier on this page (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623760&viewfull=1#post1623760)
(well to be fair it was said to be not accurate in my update, not original post)
Crimea River 🇰🇪🇬🇧
@nickybateleur
These are clearly two completely different women - yet judge, jury, and executioner have already been wheeled out for both of them across the board on social media. The mass hysteria is beyond insane.
update
https://x.com/KyleSeraphin/status/1814319472427086132
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Kyle Seraphin
@KyleSeraphin
All of you people who are so ridiculous that you jump ANY story despite having zero confirmation - Shame on you.
I hate the @FBI more than ANY of you. And the woman on the right is NOT the lady at the rally. Unless she got chin implants, a face lift, a nose job and ear work.
mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 18:41
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1814321622137909606
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Susan Crabtree
@susancrabtree
I reported this a few days ago and the Secret Service denied it publicly -- but not directly to me, trying to discredit my reporting.
I'm told by an exceptional source within the Secret Service community that the Secret Service site agent for the event is a brand new agent out of the Pittsburg Field Office with very little experience.
Also, as I reported on Sunday, the regular Secret Service protective team assigned to Trump was mostly either taking a day off after working seven-day shifts for weeks or were assigned to other events -- either the Jill Biden dinner, the NATO summit, or the RNC convention.
So they filled out a hodge-podge team of agents from different field offices who have either never or rarely work together. Only a handful (I'm hearing very few to one -- SAIC Curran) are regularly assigned to Trump's detail. All others were temps.
"Pittsburg Secret Service field office had a Jill Biden visit, and designated a lot of resources to her -- f-ing unbelievable," one Secret Service source told me.
Jill Biden was headlining the annual dinner of the Italian Sons and Daughters of America at Rivers Casino in Pittsburg.
Protected whistleblowers (that means they are likely current Secret Service agents or UD officers) who talked to Rep. Jim Jordan @JudiciaryGOP appear to have told the panel the same thing from a letter FBI Director Wray the panel put out yesterday (Thurs.).
A site agent, btw, is in charge of putting all security measures in place -- inner perimeter, middle perimeter, above and below. Prioir to the day of the visit, the lead advance agent (a different position) does at least one walk through of each site (if there are several) and approves or fine-tunes it.
Brian Cates - Political Columnist & Pundit
@drawandstrike
Crabtree doesn’t say “HSI” even once in this post.
Why?
The main thrust of the post she’s commenting on is many of the agents In Trump’s security detail that day WERE NOT SECRET SERVICE.
The whistleblowers are telling Senator Hawley agents from DHS’s investigative service were temp assigned to Trump’s security detail that day.
Why is Crabtree studiously avoiding asking her exceptional source if this is true?
ExomatrixTV
19th July 2024, 18:44
Joe Rogan Raises SERIOUS Questions About the Trump Assassination Attempt
"They have organized assassinations before. And when they organize assassinations, it looks just like that. And when they organize assassinations, one of the things they like to do is have some f*cking loser kill the president and then they kill the f*cking loser, and that's a wrap."
Joe Rogan questions why:
• “They saw him on the ****ing roof, and they didn't engage. They saw him on the roof with a rifle.”
• “They wouldn't put Secret Service agents on the roof” because the “sloped roof” thing is not a legitimate excuse.
• “They let him [Crooks] get off three shots.”
• “They had such poor security guarding him [Trump].”
• “[They] can not get in that kid's phone” when “I know you read my text messages.”
With all these anomalies unfolding, @JoeRogan
concludes, “They definitely wanted him [Crooks] to k*ll Trump.”
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ExomatrixTV
19th July 2024, 18:51
Not sure if this clip has been shown before.
It's of the woman directly behind Trump during the assassination attempt.
She seems so unfazed, as if she knew what was coming. She even seems to give a little smile as Trump drops to the floor and then films.
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According to this it's Janeen Diguiseppi Assistant Director of the FBI.
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Notice how it looks like she was also smiling ...
Mark (Star Mariner)
19th July 2024, 18:56
Will anyone be held accountable? I doubt it.
Not only those involved in the shooting, or the security failure, but those who deliberately and aggressively chummed the waters from which this evil purportedly sprung...
At the very least, the Mainstream Media are responsible for much of the hatred that's been levelled against Trump, and have been for the last eight years. They have a lot to answer for.
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SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 19:06
Will anyone be held accountable? I doubt it.
Not only those involved in the shooting, or the security failure, but those who deliberately and aggressively chummed the waters from which this evil purportedly sprung...
At the very least, the Mainstream Media are responsible for much of the hatred that's been levelled against Trump, and have been for the last eight years. They have a lot to answer for.
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No worries, they will get to the bottom of this at the Congressional Hearings Monday!!!! Kim Cheatle will spill the beans! LOL (if she shows up)
ExomatrixTV
19th July 2024, 19:51
Donald Trump Speaks For The 1St Time On The Assassination Attempt:
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ExomatrixTV
19th July 2024, 20:19
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twitter.com/ClownWorld_ (https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_) << (2.5 Million Followers!)
mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 20:53
https://x.com/wendyp4545/status/1814327398738825399
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Wendy Patterson
@wendyp4545
An assasination attempt was made on President Trump. One man died, 2 were in Critical Condition and:
No FBI Press Breifing
No DOJ Press Briefing
The House of Representatives doesn't reconvene back in Session
The US Senate doesn't reconvine back in Session
Oversight sends out Invitations to appear not subpoena's
FBI Director refuses the invitation to appear
Cable Media refuses to call it an assasination attempt for several hours
Secret Service Director refuses to resign
Mayorkas says he has confidence in the SS Director
We learn DHS replaces Secret Service advanced team with DHS employees
PA Police agencies ignore their jurisdiction blame Secret Service
Secret Service can't define their jurisdiction and balme PA Police
We were told 2 snipers learned there were 4 snipers. 2 Pa Police 2 Secret Service
Jill Biden, Antony Blinken and Austin are unusually silent
None of this is normal unless they knew in advance because these are not appropriate reactions to an attempted assasination attempt.
mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 21:01
This is the CNN article shown in the latest Chris video
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-rally-shooting-07-14-24#h_e3b77ce122987eb5d2059a2dff21a270
The below account has another 500,000 followers, post has 50,000 views already, Vigilant Fox (https://x.com/VigilantFox) has 130,000 views already from his 1,000,000 followers.
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1814391997068935557
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The CNN report is real, by the way
— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) July 19, 2024
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1814382812046471577
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Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
Drop what you're doing *right now* and watch this *entire* video from start to finish. It will *shock* you.
Clif has it also
https://x.com/clif_high/status/1814377127967596684
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https://x.com/clif_high/status/1814370726671163805
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onevoice
19th July 2024, 21:05
The "Illegal Immigration into the US" chart that saved Trump's life:
https://i.imgur.com/KNIZOLw.jpg
Mark (Star Mariner)
19th July 2024, 21:25
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1814382812046471577
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Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
Drop what you're doing *right now* and watch this *entire* video from start to finish. It will *shock* you.
It's a solid overview, but falls short of a professional and comprehensive analysis. That would require experts, state-of-the-art tools, and a great deal of time. Also (I imagine) repeated experiments, on location, testing distances, different weapons and different audio signatures, to prove or disprove a hypothesis.
Also, according to some of the feedback I've read (of the above video) he hasn't accounted for at least two important data-points.
The audio is derived from two different locations, which would skew the timing of the sound as it reached the camera. Different sample rates would also offset timing.
Trump's microphone was being projected over speakers, which could account for some of the echo effects.
norman
19th July 2024, 21:38
Juan O'Savin said recently that the whole irrefutable ugly truth is about to come out about the 2020 election steal. ( in the same interview he said there are 70 something countries in the world where the same thing is happening )
He emphasized that the biggest shocker of all is going to be when the American people find out which US Government agency the foreign doctored data was returned into the country through.
The latest twists in this story have got me to wondering if that agency could be the Secret Service.
ExomatrixTV
19th July 2024, 21:41
Trump SURGES to new highs in every poll after attempt on his LIFE!:
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Mark (Star Mariner)
19th July 2024, 21:45
BREAKING:
Trump shooter had 3 overseas encrypted accounts, says congressman
Former DOD counterterrorism analyst Kara Frederick joined 'The Faulkner Focus' to discuss security failures stemming from the Trump assassination attempt and new details revealed about the shooter's actions leading up to the shooting. #FoxNews
[My comment]
Question: What would a "lone wolf" be doing with ENCRYPTED COMMS? I'm no intelligence expert, but it stands to reason, at least in my mind, that encrypted communications would only be needed when liaising -- in secret -- with OTHER parties.
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SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 21:47
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1814382812046471577
1814382812046471577
Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
Drop what you're doing *right now* and watch this *entire* video from start to finish. It will *shock* you.
It's a solid overview, but falls short of a professional and comprehensive analysis. That would require experts, state-of-the-art tools, and a great deal of time. Also (I imagine) repeated experiments, on location, testing distances, different weapons and different audio signatures, to prove or disprove a hypothesis.
Also, according to some of the feedback I've read (of the above video) he hasn't accounted for at least two important data-points.
The audio is derived from two different locations, which would skew the timing of the sound as it reached the camera. Different sample rates would also offset timing.
Trump's microphone was being projected over speakers, which could account for some of the echo effects.
Personally I think Chris on to something solid and may be rather quite accurate with a good portion of his analysis.
We've reached the age of actually needing to mostly rely on independent researchers and intelligent critical thinkers for information to consider as potentially accurate or mostly reliable.
In this specific case I'm sure the "experts" would conclude that their was only one shooter using one gun even if they found two different caliber bullets embedded in the platform Trump was standing on.
mountain_jim
19th July 2024, 22:02
It's a solid overview, but falls short of a professional and comprehensive analysis. That would require experts, state-of-the-art tools, and a great deal of time. Also (I imagine) repeated experiments, on location, testing distances, different weapons and different audio signatures, to prove or disprove a hypothesis.
Also, according to some of the feedback I've read (of the above video) he hasn't accounted for at least two important data-points.
The audio is derived from two different locations, which would skew the timing of the sound as it reached the camera. Different sample rates would also offset timing.
Trump's microphone was being projected over speakers, which could account for some of the echo effects.
Well this was from the CCN article on 7/15, comes pretty close to what Chris is stating, while citing 3 different researchers, 2 of which appear to confirm the multiple shooters from their analysis.
Not comprehensive but professional per credentials, it appears to me.
Now we wait for a deeper dive by experts to prove or disprove this great start.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-rally-shooting-07-14-24#h_e3b77ce122987eb5d2059a2dff21a270
5:10 a.m. EDT, July 15, 2024
Audio forensics suggest as many as three weapons fired at Trump rally
From CNN’s Gianluca Mezzofiore and Avery Schmitz
Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.
The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.
The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.
Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.
This conclusion aligns with CNN’s analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.
The shots exemplify a “crack-pop” sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the “arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound,” Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.
The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second.
CNN’s Hannah Rabinowitz, Evan Perez, and Ryan Young contributed reporting.
SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 22:06
BREAKING:
Trump shooter had 3 overseas encrypted accounts, says congressman
Former DOD counterterrorism analyst Kara Frederick joined 'The Faulkner Focus' to discuss security failures stemming from the Trump assassination attempt and new details revealed about the shooter's actions leading up to the shooting. #FoxNews
[My comment]
Question: What would a "lone wolf" be doing with ENCRYPTED COMMS? I'm no intelligence expert, but it stands to reason, at least in my mind, that encrypted communications would only be needed when liaising -- in secret -- with OTHER parties.
TEStUyUSv74
didn't you hear? Iran was plotting to assassinate Trump. I'm sure the kid was a highly trained and professional Iranian Guard Assassin and used his phone for top secret Iranian communications.
Trump was suppose to be dead Saturday, Sunday morning the Iranian connection was suppose to be made, leveling Iran was probably suppose to start by Sunday evening.
Explains why Lindsey Graham looked like he was depressed and had been crying Monday evening at the RNC.
SilentFeathers
19th July 2024, 22:57
This guy places the second shooter in the 2nd story window in the building behind the roof Crooks was on. This window was actually open on the day of the shooting.
It also makes sense why some of the "experts" were placing crooks in the wrong spot on the roof in several diagrams.
Also many of the news reports were stating that the sniper team was in the building on the second floor. The building Crooks was on doesn't have a second floor.
This whole thing is going down the rabbit hole but this is a theory to consider for sure, the angles seem to somewhat work out.
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Bill Ryan
19th July 2024, 23:00
Chris Martenson's new update will stream live 30 minutes from now. :thumbsup:
Crooks’ Unbelievable Path to the Roof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9F7EweGE8I
jaybee
19th July 2024, 23:21
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This is an angle re motivation worth considering....
The video simplifies the basic info... and if the background noise is annoying it can be clicked off...
Trump Shot For 'Pro-Peace' Stand On Ukraine: EU Leader; Zelensky Rival Vindicated? | US Election(3:54)
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19 Jul 2024 #orban #trumpassassination #robertfico
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has reacted to the assassination attempt on former US President Donald Trump on July 19. Speaking with Kossuth radio station, Orban said that Trump was attacked by 'pro-war' forces. He also spoke about Slovakia's Prime Minister, Robert Fico, who was hit by four bullets from point-blank range on May 15.
lightpotential
19th July 2024, 23:24
Hello Everybody,
I realise so many people are trying to analyse the flight of the bullet to try to trace it to a point of origin. I too am looking at his most closely and am going to present my own analysis very shortly. Hopefully in the next day or two. If it is what I think it is, it is something I have not seen anybody else say so far. I will post the video analysis in this thread once I have the mathematics worked out.
Keith
Gwin Ru
19th July 2024, 23:33
This guy places the second shooter in the 2nd story window in the building behind the roof Crooks was on. This window was actually open on the day of the shooting.
It also makes sense why some of the "experts" were placing crooks in the wrong spot on the roof in several diagrams.
Also many of the news reports were stating that the sniper team was in the building on the second floor. The building Crooks was on doesn't have a second floor.
This whole thing is going down the rabbit hole but this is a theory to consider for sure, the angles seem to somewhat work out.
[...]Indeed, as it is more in alignment with the upper edge of the stage-right bleacher (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623706&viewfull=1#post1623706):
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53403&d=1721398288
Satori
20th July 2024, 00:02
It's a solid overview, but falls short of a professional and comprehensive analysis. That would require experts, state-of-the-art tools, and a great deal of time. Also (I imagine) repeated experiments, on location, testing distances, different weapons and different audio signatures, to prove or disprove a hypothesis.
Also, according to some of the feedback I've read (of the above video) he hasn't accounted for at least two important data-points.
The audio is derived from two different locations, which would skew the timing of the sound as it reached the camera. Different sample rates would also offset timing.
Trump's microphone was being projected over speakers, which could account for some of the echo effects.
Well this was from the CCN article on 7/15, comes pretty close to what Chris is stating, while citing 3 different researchers, 2 of which appear to confirm the multiple shooters from their analysis.
Not comprehensive but professional per credentials, it appears to me.
Now we wait for a deeper dive by experts to prove or disprove this great start.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-rally-shooting-07-14-24#h_e3b77ce122987eb5d2059a2dff21a270
5:10 a.m. EDT, July 15, 2024
Audio forensics suggest as many as three weapons fired at Trump rally
From CNN’s Gianluca Mezzofiore and Avery Schmitz
Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.
The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.
The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.
Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.
This conclusion aligns with CNN’s analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.
The shots exemplify a “crack-pop” sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the “arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound,” Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.
The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second.
CNN’s Hannah Rabinowitz, Evan Perez, and Ryan Young contributed reporting.
Mike Adams does a very good forensic acoustic analysis of, by his reckoning, the 7 incoming shots. That is, the incoming rounds. “Crack-boom.” The bullets intended for the target are well within the range of all three locations and the bullets are traveling much faster than the speed of sound. Thus , the bullets pass by some, and arrive somewhere else for others, in the target area and make the “crack” sound followed immediately by the “report” sound. That is, the “boom” sound from the barrel of the weapon. You can hear this in the audio.
He concludes that shots were fired from three different locations.
I do recommend listening to Adam’s analysis on his programs. Brighteon is typically a good place to visit.
norman
20th July 2024, 00:41
https://t.me/disclosetv/14119
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SilentFeathers
20th July 2024, 01:08
I'm bumping this post because I think I found something unbelievable and rather beyond coincidence......see below
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511
From post #511
What if???????????? (PURE SPECULATION)
What if that first kill shot actually came from inside the building through one of the windows directly below the shooter, likely the window to his left? Perhaps it was the first 2 or 3 shots. Trump got his ear clipped and the crane also got hit.
What if the quick burst of shots actually came from the shooter on the roof and were the bullets that hit the people in the stands?
Last shot was from the sniper on the "south roof" behind Trump that took the shooter on the roof out?
Yes, my mind is probably over-thinking this and probably quite scrambled after so many hours of studying this whole event. But, at this point and after so many completely insane and ridiculous developments, I honestly believe anything is possible.
It's a very good suggestion, and a highly plausible one. I managed to find a large, high quality image of the area, and with it created the graphic below depicting a scenario where the second shooter may, hypothetically, have been located -- in the window at the far end of the building.
The sight-line matches up closely with the bullet that struck Trump's ear, and the spectators in the bleachers who were, with fine margins, right on that line.
Link for larger: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53403&d=1721398288
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53403&d=1721398288
Thanks for posting this photo.
The first bullet or 2 that clipped Trumps ear also hit a bystander and railing in the bleachers possibly ricocheting and blowing the hydraulics in the crane in the 6 o'clock position of the photo.
If you lay a straight edge on the photo lining up with the 3rd window from the right of the building, well, it lines up better in my mind.
If there was a second shooter my guess would be that he was shooting from the second or third window from the right, likely the third, which is also more in alignment with the shooter on the roof, Trump, and Crane area.
I think the kid on the roof is the one that hit those high in the bleachers where to my knowledge Cory was. The 1st 3 shots were more spaced and controlled it seems, the shot burst after sounded more sporadic IMO.
See where I wrote in my earlier post highlighted in red? about a second shooter being in the 3rd window from the right directly below where Crooks was up on the roof?????
Well, I found a video clip of Crooks walking directly to that 3rd window and basically looking right into it! The window actually appears to be cracked open towards the inside. It appears then he stands there for a very short period like he's waiting for something (like instructions/orders?) and then walks off. It wasn't long after that that he was next seen up on the roof.
Is this just a coincidence???????????????????????????????
The section in this video showing Crooks walk directly to this window is in the video below during the time 24:11 thru 25:23 in the video.
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ExomatrixTV
20th July 2024, 02:04
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We were told Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone—that was a lie.
We were told Sirhan Sirhan acted alone—that was a lie.
We were told James Earl Ray acted alone—that was a lie.
Now we are being told Thomas Matthew Crooks acted alone.
Do you believe them? Here’s why you shouldn't.
The Trump assassination attempt reeks of foul play, and the world can smell it.
Dr. Chris Martenson (https://twitter.com/chrismartenson) has recently presented “rock solid audio proof that there were AT LEAST TWO shooters targeting Trump and the crowd.”
This is no longer a fringe “conspiracy theory” because even CNN has acknowledged the presence of gunfire from three distinct weapons: Three shots from Crooks (A), one from the countersniper (C), and five from the mysterious “Weapon B.”
Watch this nine-minute video as @chrismartenson
meticulously breaks down the audio evidence. The following is a summary of Dr. Martenson (https://twitter.com/chrismartenson)’s findings:
There were at least two distinctly different [unfriendly] weapons being fired.
• First three shots were further away than the weapon(s) that fired the next 5-7 shots.
• Sonic cracks tell us that they were also fired at Trump’s & audience’s direction (and weren’t taking out Crooks, eg).
• This means that the “lone shooter” story is 100% false.
As such, Dr. Martenson (https://twitter.com/chrismartenson) concludes, “So this tells us that this was a full-on operation.”
“These are the questions that need to be asked. I fear for my safety and everybody else’s safety for coming out with this stuff because one thing we know is they don’t like loose ends in these stories. But man, they bollocksed this operation up really badly. Whoever was in charge of it is probably already floating in a river. I don’t know what’s going to happen to them because they really messed this operation up.”
source (https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1814420611776819214)
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ExomatrixTV
20th July 2024, 02:17
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20th July 2024, 02:33
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mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 02:46
:)
https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1814383669114708241
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ThePythonicCow
20th July 2024, 03:14
But the way to reach that can't be seen on the photo.
If you go to these coordinates in Google Map, 40.85918083715413, -79.969816963291, in the northeast corner of the AGR parking lot just south of Whitestown Rd, you can see a ladder up to the platform around the circumference, on the north, outside edge, of the northern most of the four main legs. The water tower will be 300 feet southeast of this parking lot location, at these Google Map coordinates.
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SilentFeathers
20th July 2024, 03:34
Senator Josh Hawley went to the Butler rally site today and said the FBI has the place locked down and more secure right now than it was when Trump was there. They told him he couldn't be there and made him leave!
The cover up is in full swing!
They are basically sending a message that it's open season on Trump and no one can do a damn thing about it......
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CIC Trump, " I'LL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED "
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Some entertaining thoughts from the one and only Hulk Hogan, I think Hulk Hogan is is going to do a Rambo and single handedly take down the deep state.
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Dana Whites thoughts on CIC Trump, .
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CIC Trump final thoughts on the assassination attempt.
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ExomatrixTV
20th July 2024, 04:25
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Bill Maher Confronts Pete Buttigieg on Massive Security Failure in Trump Shooting
“Should Joe Biden have fired the Secret Service head? ... I’ve seen people fired for less, and it just looks bad.”
“It looks like, ‘Well, the other guy from the other party got shot. We’ll look into it if we have time.’”
PETE BUTTIGIEG: “Everything that led up to that moment, that horrible moment, is under a microscope. And I believe that President Biden and the administration will do the right thing.”
BILL MAHER: “But you didn’t need a microscope to see it. The guy was on the roof, like, not that far away with a rifle for a long time.”
norman
20th July 2024, 10:47
The FBI is crooked, right ?
Crooks is a deep state greenhouse variety patsy, probably ?
We don't yet have his history of being built into what he is now but we are likely to end up finding influences and handlers over a lengthy period.
We're getting the crooked FBI's "look what we just found" drip drip drip . . . . .
First it was an Iranian connection. Not really, but they name drop Iran into the story of his unusual low social media use but foreign encrypted comms instead.
Now they are dropping the use of a drone into their drip feed to the public.
At this rate, you can pick anything the power grabbers of the world want to demonize and you can predict they are going to weave it into this Crooks story even if it wasn't already in his greenhouse plant food.
The use of drones by the public is a huge concern to them. I've recently been following a youtube channel all about the legislative landscape and fast moving restrictive clampdowns on drone use even for such innocent things as making amazing video footage for travel and hobby videos. In a nutshell, "Drones Are Bad" is on a par with "Orange Man Bad".
So they found a drone in Crooks' car/van and say he flew it over the rally site to scope it out.
Already we have 'guns bad', 'Iran bad', 'drones bad'. What's coming next ?
The FBI has already taken over control of all future press conferences from the Butler police.
https://t.me/candlesinthenight/73562
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Tintin
20th July 2024, 11:12
But the way to reach that can't be seen on the photo.
If you go to these coordinates in Google Map, 40.85918083715413, -79.969816963291, in the northeast corner of the AGR parking lot just south of Whitestown Rd, you can see a ladder up to the platform around the circumference, on the north, outside edge, of the northern most of the four main legs. The water tower will be 300 feet southeast of this parking lot location, at these Google Map coordinates.
53410
I still am not quite convinced on the water tower angle as part of the plot but am not entirely ruling it out.
This footage shot from the bleacher behind Trump shows the tower at around 24 seconds in at 6.10 PM and I suppose could be used as a reference although there aren't sufficient frames there to be certain of any human activity. May be worth a look? Still, the 'tower' maybe a distraction...
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1814374020403392512/pu/vid/avc1/576x1024/h0q1OmvV2FnFCXEx.mp4?tag=12
Having said that someone has shared what purports to be a 'X' (?) account user, posting the following:
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mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 12:03
This account has a lot of interesting posts about the attempt (as well as Jan 6th pipe bomber, Las Vegas FBI involvement with Haddock, ATT data wipes/restores) but I have not seen this one yet - just now looking
but I have not had time to evaluate to what degree this guy is real vs larper - this link indicates issues with past claims (2023)
https://opoyi.com/usa/who-is-tony-seruga-intelligence-analyst-trolled-after-claiming-his-clients-include-dutch-east-india-company/
update - found the X post from above (he claims a level of access to current cell-phone and vehicle data that I have to wonder whether its real or not)
https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1814294910339895401
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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
We have tracked the black SUV that had picked up our phantom water tower sniper that escaped using a zip line via the backside of the water tower into the trees and then on foot a short jaunt to Meridian Road. With 💯 confidence, based on cell phone data, that particular sniper was FBI and the SUV was registered to the Department of Agriculture.
https://x.com/TonySeruga
Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
Investor | Board Member | Big Data Pioneer | Intel Ops | CIA/NSA Contractor/Whistleblower | CRE | Philanthropist | Healthcare M&A @ Greenlaw
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My partners and I have been lifetime data scientists. We own the digital ID of every mobile device/computer in the U.S. and have indexed and archived every IP address in the world. Our extensive experience in big and deep data, including geotracking and geolocation makes our dozens of data companies the top authority for providing data to corporations, law enforcement and U.S. government agencies like the CIA, NSA, DoD, DIA, NGA, NRO, FBI, as well as Interpol and foreign intelligence organizations.
There are a number of videos documenting these ghost buses as well as a number of mostly nondescript DOJ vans that dropped off ninja wearing individuals that appear in other videos to have breached the Capitol cutting fencing, removing barricades, opening doors, and other nefarious behaviors.
We also tracked the infamous J6 ‘pipe bomber’ from one of these vans. Later, we eventually tracked them to a Virginia Metro station where a perfect capture of their vehicle license plate was made.
The FBI has ALL of this information. Shortly after they were alerted, however, AT&T mysteriously ‘accidentally’ corrupted that and only that particular cell phone user’s data.
Additionally, their mobile device was used hundreds of times before and after J6 accessing keycard required DOJ/FBI parking garages and buildings.
https://x.com/pepesgrandma/s/pepesgrandma/status/1724823369260867953
https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1814322120094278080
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Tony Seruga
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Confirming the 3 individuals the ‘shooter’ was communicating with via text using one of his two devices, were not only in the crowd but appear to be in the bleachers behind President Trump. AT&T corrupted, deleted and then restored the corrupt data of these contacts approximately 30 minutes before the FBI accessed the data. Like J6 ‘pipe bomber’ was AT&T directed by DIA? FYI—and any reference to offshore encrypted accounts are likely a diversion and an attempt to manufacture motive/evidence?
https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1814329742268760328
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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
The shooter visited the rally location five times in the week leading up to the rally. Three times exiting his Hyundai Sonata and walking the area, even on one visit entering the American Glass Research corporate offices located at 603 Evans City Rd, for approximately 6 minutes, and then walking to the American Glass Research building located at 615 Whitestown Rd, where it appears he went into the building spending approximately 12 minutes there, departing and immediately driving to Meridian Lanes bowling alley where the data indicates he spent 97 minutes at the Bullseye Sports Bar & Kitchen. Lastly, we are analyzing two devices located within a meter of his device for most of that 97 minutes.
https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1814336835285626972
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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
Who drove the van with Arizona license plates? Is it just a coincidence the shooter took a quick turnaround trip to Arizona on the same date as the retired FBI SA was there? The same retired FBI SA who met Las Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock in a Pakistan café just before the massacre.
norman
20th July 2024, 12:13
Not like we didn't already have this figured
https://t.me/maddogholland/80297
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Tintin
20th July 2024, 12:42
..and just when things couldn't get even stranger now there's a claim a UFO was seen, and recorded, at the Butler rally.......
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Tintin
20th July 2024, 13:40
..and just when things couldn't get even stranger now there's a claim a UFO was seen, and recorded, at the Butler rally.......
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Something can most certainly be seen looking very much like a UFO flying in right > left at the 44 second mark. Focus on the cloud to the right of the flag:
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Butler_UFO_1.png
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Butler_UFO_2.png
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 14:25
copying here
If I was advising Trump I would advise don't go anywhere in public until the attempt to assassinate him is better understood - and the Secret Service and FBI possible involvement is also.
He does not need these rallies right now.
https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1814665352741060659
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Trump Rally! Grand Rapids Michigan Crowd! He speaks around 5PM ET.
Let’s goooo MAGA!
— MJTruthUltra (@MJTruthUltra) July 20, 2024
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 14:33
more from Tony Seruga where he claims a connection to Gary Webb, who I was researching/following back before there was a Project Avalon.
Still don't know what to make of this person - certainly posting a lot on X right now, maybe capitalizing on the current conspiracy interest to build page views and income?
https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1814668556598190253
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It’s times like these when I sure miss my friend Gary Webb.
I joined him on trips to Panama, Nicaragua, Columbia, Arkansas, when he was the journalist who first covered the government’s connection in his series “Dark Alliance” who died under mysterious circumstances, shooting himself twice in the head. And just like Epstein’s murder, Barr lied then too.
Gary was receiving death threats, being regularly followed by people he referred to as government operatives, and that he was concerned about strange individuals dresses in ninja like outfits who were seen on multiple occasions breaking into and leaving his house climbing drainpipes.
Gary told me multiple times they were trying to kill him, in fact, my last text message with Gary, was on December 5th, 2004 at 1:15 pm PT, just days before his ‘suicide’, Gary joked “Just for the record, I am not suicidal!”
Authorities in Sacramento never even contacted any of us after we came forward.
https://youtu.be/FS-oNTe9kwE?si=bLEXjqrBF_wPwNFg
Gary’s most famous work, the "Dark Alliance" series, remains a significant moment in the annals of American journalism, both for its audacity in alleging connections between the CIA, Nicaraguan contra rebels, and the crack cocaine epidemic in Los Angeles during the 1980s, and for the fierce backlash and scrutiny it invoked. When I first met Gary, I thought he was insane but looking at what was happening on the streets of South Central Los Angeles, I finally realized he was right. We flew to Panama, Columbia, Arkansas connecting dots.
The 'Dark Alliance' Series
In 1996, Gary Webb, then a reporter for the San Jose Mercury News, published a three-part series titled "Dark Alliance," which outlined a labyrinthine network that purportedly funneled profits from drug trafficking to support the CIA-backed Contras in Nicaragua. At the heart of Webb's narrative was the claim that this drug trade had contributed significantly to the crack cocaine epidemic that ravaged urban communities, particularly in Los Angeles.
Webb's reporting drew upon court documents, DEA records, and direct interviews with key players involved in the drug trade and the anti-Sandinista efforts. The series immediately sparked outrage and a nationwide conversation, largely because it highlighted the plight of African-American communities and suggested that the U.S. government had, at least indirectly, contributed to their distress.
The Backlash and Professional Toll
However, the "Dark Alliance" series was met with intense scrutiny from the outset. Major newspapers like The New York Times, The Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times with CIA influence embarked on a zealous campaign to discredit Webb’s work, poking holes in the series' more sensational claims and discrediting Webb's sources. The backlash was formidable, and Webb’s own newspaper eventually backed away from the story, leading to his resignation.
The criticism hinged on the assertion that Webb had overstepped the evidence, drawing connections that, while suggestive, were not conclusively proven. Webb's career never recovered from the controversy, and he faced a storm of personal and professional challenges until his tragic death in 2004, which was ruled a suicide, shooting himself twice in the head!
Gary’s work was seen by many as vindicated when, in 1998, CIA Inspector General Frederick Hitz testified before Congress, admitting that the CIA had maintained relationships with individuals involved in the drug trade. This partial acknowledgment served to restore some of Webb’s credibility among his supporters.
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 14:41
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Did any other reps in Congress take it upon themselves to visit the site of the Trump rally shooting in Butler, Pennsylvania this week?
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Ahead of Senate hearings on the attempt to assassinate President Trump, I went to site of the shooting in Butler County myself today to ask questions and get facts.
https://x.com/HawleyMO/status/1814657791774036032
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Here’s my view of the scene where President Trump was shot. Big question: why wasn’t the building where the shooter fired from included in the security perimeter? It’s incredibly close, with a clear line of sight
— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) July 20, 2024
https://x.com/HawleyMO/status/1814439607557337388
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Based on what I saw today in Butler County, can’t emphasize enough how important whistleblowers are. Please keep reaching out with any information on last Saturday
— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) July 19, 2024
https://x.com/HawleyMO/status/1814352388385546325
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Majority of Trump security detail were not Secret Service, whistleblowers tell Sen. Hawley
— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) July 19, 2024
ExomatrixTV
20th July 2024, 14:45
..and just when things couldn't get even stranger now there's a claim a UFO was seen, and recorded, at the Butler rally.......
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Depending on the FPS settings (https://freeflysystems.com/knowledge-base/resolution-and-frame-rate-fps) of the used camera ... you most likely witnessed someone filming a bug (insect), everybody can test for themselves and compare the results in super slow-motion especially 60FPS or higher!
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
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mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 14:47
https://x.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1814637430110077194
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For those readers who don't already Follow Mr. @TonySeruga perhaps you should.
He and his team have been about a mile ahead of legacy media on the PA shooter and they specialize in mobile data analysis.
A 97 minute meeting at a place called the Bullseye ...
— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) July 20, 2024
Tintin
20th July 2024, 14:59
..and just when things couldn't get even stranger now there's a claim a UFO was seen, and recorded, at the Butler rally.......
1814631101765214370
Depending on the FPS settings (https://freeflysystems.com/knowledge-base/resolution-and-frame-rate-fps) of the used camera ... you most likely witnessed someone filming a bug (insect), everybody can test for themselves and compare the results in super slow-motion especially 60FPS or higher!
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
I doubt it John. It flies behind the flag. It'd have to be bloody large insect!! :)
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Reposting from here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1624036&viewfull=1#post1624036):
Something can most certainly be seen looking very much like a UFO flying in right > left at the 44 second mark. Focus on the cloud to the right of the flag:
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Butler_UFO_1.png
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Butler_UFO_2.png
ExomatrixTV
20th July 2024, 15:13
It'd have to be bloody large insect!! :)
You can throw a small marble from left to right (or right to left) in front of your camera and then watch it in slow motion, looking like (appearing) like a bowling ball in size (or bigger). A bird could appear to have the same size as a airplane on a 2D screen ... does not mean they are the same size!
Anything that moves (depending on the speed shutter) can look stretched too, when watching in slow-motion!
Believe it or not, I studied 1000s of UFO footages last 34 years using all kinds of software & hardware, having used all kinds of cameras too. (over 7!) only a tiny few are super fasictaing! ... Maybe I sould make a special on that topic alone.
BEST UFO FOOTAGES ARE THOSE WHO ARE RECORDED BY MULTIPLE DIFFERENT CAMERAS FROM MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ANGLES!
Like: doorbell cameras, body cam cameras, security camers, sattelte cameras, dashboard cameras, professional tv cameras and on and on and on ...
Mexico Live UFO Footages from July 11, 1991 short before, during and after solar eclipse (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=mexico%20solar%20eclipse%201991%20ufo), is a beautiful example.
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
norman
20th July 2024, 15:17
Unless something is original live footage I'm not messing with the bottom feeder stuff. It's blatantly obvious to me now that the scramble and chaos squad is diving in hard.
Remember the old wisdom from the Ufology world when it was still the real thing?;
There are two ways to keep a secret.
1) if you control all the parameters you can put a lid over it and tell no one anything.
2) if you DON'T control all the parameters, you generate a huge amount similar looking noise in the truthersphere to camouflage the truth.
Tintin
20th July 2024, 15:18
It'd have to be bloody large insect!! :)
You can throw a small marble from left to right (or right to left) in front of your camera and then watch it in slow motion, looking like (appearing) like a bowling ball in size (or bigger). A bird could appear to have the same size as a airplane on a 2D screen ... does not mean they are the same size!
Anything that moves (depending on the speed shutter) can look stretched too, when watching in slow-motion!
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
Blimey, okay, and I don't really want to be labouring a point here. Be that as it may, I simply want folks to watch the video very closely. That isn't an insect in the video :)
:handshake:
Bill Ryan
20th July 2024, 15:31
I don't think this audio analysis by Mike Adams has been posted yet. It's a follow-up to Chris Martenson's already well-circulated video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc&t=1s) (which has now had over 460k views). Mike does a good job, explaining his calculations very clearly.
His logic is hard to refute, and I can see that this is pretty straightforward for anyone with experience of analyzing the audio of any kind of gunshot. And this must now be known, probably as early as Sunday or Monday, by any 'official' investigators.
https://brighteon.com/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09
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mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 15:45
I don't think this audio analysis by Mike Adams has been posted yet.
Satori commented (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623961&viewfull=1#post1623961) on one of my posts but did not post link to video
Mike Adams does a very good forensic acoustic analysis of, by his reckoning, the 7 incoming shots. That is, the incoming rounds. “Crack-boom.” The bullets intended for the target are well within the range of all three locations and the bullets are traveling much faster than the speed of sound. Thus , the bullets pass by some, and arrive somewhere else for others, in the target area and make the “crack” sound followed immediately by the “report” sound. That is, the “boom” sound from the barrel of the weapon. You can hear this in the audio.
He concludes that shots were fired from three different locations.
I do recommend listening to Adam’s analysis on his programs. Brighteon is typically a good place to visit.
Tintin
20th July 2024, 15:54
This might be useful as a visual of the rally site at Butler filmed by an AP (Associated Press) drone while what looks like the clean-up (cover-up) is still ongoing.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1814461571474866176/vid/avc1/1280x720/OG_Lt2gwdpIgfw0N.mp4?tag=14
Sourced from Collin Rugg on X (https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1814462080793358344)
Bill Ryan
20th July 2024, 15:56
I don't think this audio analysis by Mike Adams has been posted yet. It's a follow-up to Chris Martenson's already well-circulated video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc&t=1s) (which has now had over 460k views). Mike does a good job, explaining his calculations very clearly.
His logic is hard to refute, and I can see that this is pretty straightforward for anyone with experience of analyzing the audio of any kind of gunshot. And this must now be known, probably as early as Sunday or Monday, by any 'official' investigators.
https://brighteon.com/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09
a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09Here's a follow-up Tweet from Mike Adams, now having measured the water tower distance. He concludes that shot #6 could indeed have come from the water tower, but that shot #7 was from almost twice as far away.
The text:
I am measuring the water tower at approx. 760 feet from Trump's podium. This distance could be consistent with the audio forensics signature of round #6, which has a snap/boom delay of 0.366 seconds. But it also means that round #7 was fired from BEYOND the water tower distance.~~~
https://x.com/HealthRanger/status/1814365747751333924
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mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 15:57
https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1814525297900790219
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Sen Josh Hawley: “Today when I went to that site, the FBI had more security on that site now than they did the night Trump was shot.”
“They tried to kick me off of the site.”
They don't need that many to investigate, but they do to prevent anyone else from doing so.
— Emergent Perspective (@_emergent_) July 20, 2024
Bill Ryan
20th July 2024, 16:07
I don't think this audio analysis by Mike Adams has been posted yet. It's a follow-up to Chris Martenson's already well-circulated video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc&t=1s) (which has now had over 460k views). Mike does a good job, explaining his calculations very clearly.
His logic is hard to refute, and I can see that this is pretty straightforward for anyone with experience of analyzing the audio of any kind of gunshot. And this must now be known, probably as early as Sunday or Monday, by any 'official' investigators.
https://brighteon.com/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09
a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09Here's a follow-up Tweet from Mike Adams, now having measured the water tower distance. He concludes that shot #6 could indeed have come from the water tower, but that shot #7 was from almost twice as far away.
The text:
I am measuring the water tower at approx. 760 feet from Trump's podium. This distance could be consistent with the audio forensics signature of round #6, which has a snap/boom delay of 0.366 seconds. But it also means that round #7 was fired from BEYOND the water tower distance.~~~
https://x.com/HealthRanger/status/1814365747751333924A reasonable hypothesis:
Crooks was compelled to start shooting as soon as he realized he'd been spotted face-to-face by the officer who looked over the roof at him before he dropped back down again.
The other two shooters (shots #6 and #7) then had to take their quick chance as well, when they saw the consternation and SS action on the stage.
It's possible (as Mike Adams notes) that shots #4 and #5 came from a similar distance as Crooks, but from a slightly different angle and with a different gun, maybe from an open window in one of the nearby buildings. (If so, that means four shooters.)
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 16:13
https://x.com/catturd2/status/1814612151388004400
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Just when you think you can hate this little evil demon more.
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) July 20, 2024
Tintin
20th July 2024, 16:18
I don't think this audio analysis by Mike Adams has been posted yet. It's a follow-up to Chris Martenson's already well-circulated video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc&t=1s) (which has now had over 460k views). Mike does a good job, explaining his calculations very clearly.
His logic is hard to refute, and I can see that this is pretty straightforward for anyone with experience of analyzing the audio of any kind of gunshot. And this must now be known, probably as early as Sunday or Monday, by any 'official' investigators.
https://brighteon.com/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09
a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09Here's a follow-up Tweet from Mike Adams, now having measured the water tower distance. He concludes that shot #6 could indeed have come from the water tower, but that shot #7 was from almost twice as far away.
The text:
I am measuring the water tower at approx. 760 feet from Trump's podium. This distance could be consistent with the audio forensics signature of round #6, which has a snap/boom delay of 0.366 seconds. But it also means that round #7 was fired from BEYOND the water tower distance.~~~
https://x.com/HealthRanger/status/1814365747751333924A reasonable hypothesis:
Crooks was compelled to start shooting as soon as he realized he'd been spotted face-to-face by the officer who looked over the roof at him before he dropped back down again.
The other two shooters (shots #6 and #7) then had to take their quick chance as well, when they saw the consternation and SS action on the stage.
It's possible (as Mike Adams notes) that shots #4 and #5 came from a similar distance as Crooks, but from a slightly different angle and with a different gun, maybe from an open window in one of the nearby buildings. (If so, that means four shooters.)
Bill: does Mike make any mention of elevation/s at all as Chris Martenson did? That is, CM had suggested that from the suspected shooter 1 (and 2) vantage points the projectile/bullet would have to have travelled upwards? So wouldn't have been fired from an elevation above the furthest back row of the bleacher behind Trump.
I haven't had a chance to check Mike out, yet (and will)
norman
20th July 2024, 16:20
No that's not making sense, about Crooks starting the shooting.
The sound from the recorder position in line of sight ( and sound ) of Crooks on the roof was duller for the first 2 or 3 shots than the shots that started later.
The direct line to the recorder ( from Crooks on the roof to the recorder ) made his recorded shots sound contain more high frequencies ( brighter sound ). They came after the Pro shooter's shots that had less high frequencies in the sound because of being out of straight line transmission ( either sticking out of a window on a wall not facing the recorder or more likely back inside the building a little and firing through the window in front of it.
The brighter sounding shots came in after the duller sounding shots.
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 16:31
Greg Reese reporting on Mike Adams research
https://gregreese.substack.com/p/evidence-of-multiple-shooters-at?publication_id=706779&utm_content=watch_now_gif&triedRedirect=true
Evidence of Multiple Shooters at Trump Assassination Attempt
More questions and no official answers
GREG REESE
JUL 20, 2024
Historically, government assassinations are often carried out with a patsy to take the fall and a professional, or team of professionals, to execute the target. This ensures success and gives the appearance that there was no conspiracy. It all gets blamed on a mentally disturbed lone gunman.
But the alleged would-be Trump assassin was willing to go on a suicide mission. It was an easy shot and he had at least five years of marksmanship training. The independent work of Azget Industries shows how our young suicide assassin could have been the lone gunman. But she is restricted to using the limited information we have gotten.
According to the sound analysis of Mike Adams (https://www.brighteon.com/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09), there were at least three shooters.
“I think round one is probably Crooks. Round two is Crooks. Round three is Crooks. I think these three rounds are Crooks. It's my guess. Rounds four and five are from the same distance as Crooks but they are not Crooks. I think rounds four and five, right here, I think rounds four and five are from a rogue Secret Service team in the building that Crooks was on top of. So that's my guess. Round six is from medium range sniper, round seven is long range sniper.”
~ Mike Adams
Several witnesses that day claimed that there was a second shooter in the water tower. FOX News live-streamed the following testimony, but omitted it from final edits.
“that's where the other shooter was. There was one I heard in the water tower, there was one by the fence.”
~ witness
NBC live-streamed the following testimony of a woman who was in the front row
“He could see the sharpshooter behind Trump. He said the sharpshooter shot to the left. He killed the gentleman in the water tower here.”
~ witness
And omitted the following from the final edit.
“Now they feel that there was two shooters on both sides, so they got the one on the tower on this side, but the one on the right side, they never got. So that's why they wanted us to leave immediately because they thought there's still a shooter out there somewhere. I'm glad that guy's no longer with us any more in that tower. And I hope they get the other one, too.”
~ witness
Images of the water tower show a shadow at the very top. Frame by frame analysis shows what could be described as muzzle flash or the reflection of a scope lens.
Before any shots were fired, police were seen running towards the water tower.
Multiple shooters makes more sense. But then, how did they miss? Many are insisting that it was a staged event to inflame Trump’s popularity.
“We still don't know for sure whether Donald Trump was hit by a bullet, whether he was hit by glass fragments, whether he was hit by shrapnel. We don't have those details. We actually have no details from his physician, even though this man is still a secret service protected, you know, and, presidential candidate, We know almost nothing. Why? Why don't we know that much? We don't know why for nine full seconds, Donald Trump was allowed to stand back up during an active shooting, an active shooter situation. Even though they at that point had said the shooter, the shooter was down, how would have they known? How would they have known if there were more shooters or not? Nobody knew that. There could have been five shooters for all they knew. Yet they allowed him to stand up in the middle of that, you know, crisis and pose for a photo, and fist pump the air so he could get the iconic photo. And then they allowed him to stand up again outside of the SUV instead of just shoving him into the SUV. That seems really unusual. What is the actual injury to Donald Trump's ear that's under that bandage? Shouldn't we know that by now?”
~ Joy Reid
If it was fake, it was a flawless performance. And if it was authentic, it was not only sloppy, it was a millimeter away from Chaos. Either way, Trump is now seen by many religious people as being ordained by god, and others as being the Anti-Christ. Who believers have been expecting to survive an assassination attempt.
A ZH commenter
UPDATED FORENSIC AUDIO ANALYSIS OF TRUMP SHOOTING
(Updated July 19th, 2024, with most current analysis by Mike Adams)
(Seconds indicate INCOMING arrival time of rounds / sonic crack)
0 seconds: Round 1: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Crooks on roof? 400ft - 450ft away
0.8 seconds: Round 2: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Crooks on roof? 400ft - 450ft away
1.5 seconds: Round 3: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Crooks on roof? 400ft - 450ft away
(roughly 2 second pause, during which actual snipers are likely ordered to commence kill shots on Trump)
4.3 seconds: Round 4: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Assassination sniper inside building? 400ft - 450ft away
4.6 seconds: Round 5: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Assassination sniper inside building? 400ft - 450ft away
4.9 seconds: Round 6: 0.366s snap/boom gap - Medium-range sniper at unknown location (water tower?) 600ft - 700ft away
5.1 seconds: Round 7: 0.714s snap/boom gap - Long-range sniper at unknown location (farther than water tower) 1100ft - 1500ft away
ANALYSIS: Rounds 6 and 7 fired from bolt-action rifles. Single shots only. Likely higher caliber: 308 Win or 300 Win Mag
SilentFeathers
20th July 2024, 16:36
I don't think this audio analysis by Mike Adams has been posted yet. It's a follow-up to Chris Martenson's already well-circulated video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc&t=1s) (which has now had over 460k views). Mike does a good job, explaining his calculations very clearly.
His logic is hard to refute, and I can see that this is pretty straightforward for anyone with experience of analyzing the audio of any kind of gunshot. And this must now be known, probably as early as Sunday or Monday, by any 'official' investigators.
https://brighteon.com/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09
a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09Here's a follow-up Tweet from Mike Adams, now having measured the water tower distance. He concludes that shot #6 could indeed have come from the water tower, but that shot #7 was from almost twice as far away.
The text:
I am measuring the water tower at approx. 760 feet from Trump's podium. This distance could be consistent with the audio forensics signature of round #6, which has a snap/boom delay of 0.366 seconds. But it also means that round #7 was fired from BEYOND the water tower distance.~~~
https://x.com/HealthRanger/status/1814365747751333924A reasonable hypothesis:
Crooks was compelled to start shooting as soon as he realized he'd been spotted face-to-face by the officer who looked over the roof at him before he dropped back down again.
The other two shooters (shots #6 and #7) then had to take their quick chance as well, when they saw the consternation and SS action on the stage.
It's possible (as Mike Adams notes) that shots #4 and #5 came from a similar distance as Crooks, but from a slightly different angle and with a different gun, maybe from an open window in one of the nearby buildings. (If so, that means four shooters.)
I would bet anything Crooks had more than one hole in him......
Bill Ryan
20th July 2024, 16:45
Greg Reese reporting on Mike Adams research
https://gregreese.substack.com/p/evidence-of-multiple-shooters-at?publication_id=706779&utm_content=watch_now_gif&triedRedirect=true
Evidence of Multiple Shooters at Trump Assassination Attempt
More questions and no official answers
GREG REESE
JUL 20, 2024
Historically, government assassinations are often carried out with a patsy to take the fall and a professional, or team of professionals, to execute the target. This ensures success and gives the appearance that there was no conspiracy. It all gets blamed on a mentally disturbed lone gunman.
But the alleged would-be Trump assassin was willing to go on a suicide mission. It was an easy shot and he had at least five years of marksmanship training. The independent work of Azget Industries shows how our young suicide assassin could have been the lone gunman. But she is restricted to using the limited information we have gotten.
According to the sound analysis of Mike Adams (https://www.brighteon.com/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09), there were at least three shooters.
“I think round one is probably Crooks. Round two is Crooks. Round three is Crooks. I think these three rounds are Crooks. It's my guess. Rounds four and five are from the same distance as Crooks but they are not Crooks. I think rounds four and five, right here, I think rounds four and five are from a rogue Secret Service team in the building that Crooks was on top of. So that's my guess. Round six is from medium range sniper, round seven is long range sniper.”
~ Mike Adams
Several witnesses that day claimed that there was a second shooter in the water tower. FOX News live-streamed the following testimony, but omitted it from final edits.
“that's where the other shooter was. There was one I heard in the water tower, there was one by the fence.”
~ witness
NBC live-streamed the following testimony of a woman who was in the front row
“He could see the sharpshooter behind Trump. He said the sharpshooter shot to the left. He killed the gentleman in the water tower here.”
~ witness
And omitted the following from the final edit.
“Now they feel that there was two shooters on both sides, so they got the one on the tower on this side, but the one on the right side, they never got. So that's why they wanted us to leave immediately because they thought there's still a shooter out there somewhere. I'm glad that guy's no longer with us any more in that tower. And I hope they get the other one, too.”
~ witness
Images of the water tower show a shadow at the very top. Frame by frame analysis shows what could be described as muzzle flash or the reflection of a scope lens.
Before any shots were fired, police were seen running towards the water tower.
Multiple shooters makes more sense. But then, how did they miss? Many are insisting that it was a staged event to inflame Trump’s popularity.
“We still don't know for sure whether Donald Trump was hit by a bullet, whether he was hit by glass fragments, whether he was hit by shrapnel. We don't have those details. We actually have no details from his physician, even though this man is still a secret service protected, you know, and, presidential candidate, We know almost nothing. Why? Why don't we know that much? We don't know why for nine full seconds, Donald Trump was allowed to stand back up during an active shooting, an active shooter situation. Even though they at that point had said the shooter, the shooter was down, how would have they known? How would they have known if there were more shooters or not? Nobody knew that. There could have been five shooters for all they knew. Yet they allowed him to stand up in the middle of that, you know, crisis and pose for a photo, and fist pump the air so he could get the iconic photo. And then they allowed him to stand up again outside of the SUV instead of just shoving him into the SUV. That seems really unusual. What is the actual injury to Donald Trump's ear that's under that bandage? Shouldn't we know that by now?”
~ Joy Reid
If it was fake, it was a flawless performance. And if it was authentic, it was not only sloppy, it was a millimeter away from Chaos. Either way, Trump is now seen by many religious people as being ordained by god, and others as being the Anti-Christ. Who believers have been expecting to survive an assassination attempt.
A ZH commenter
UPDATED FORENSIC AUDIO ANALYSIS OF TRUMP SHOOTING
(Updated July 19th, 2024, with most current analysis by Mike Adams)
(Seconds indicate INCOMING arrival time of rounds / sonic crack)
0 seconds: Round 1: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Crooks on roof? 400ft - 450ft away
0.8 seconds: Round 2: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Crooks on roof? 400ft - 450ft away
1.5 seconds: Round 3: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Crooks on roof? 400ft - 450ft away
(roughly 2 second pause, during which actual snipers are likely ordered to commence kill shots on Trump)
4.3 seconds: Round 4: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Assassination sniper inside building? 400ft - 450ft away
4.6 seconds: Round 5: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Assassination sniper inside building? 400ft - 450ft away
4.9 seconds: Round 6: 0.366s snap/boom gap - Medium-range sniper at unknown location (water tower?) 600ft - 700ft away
5.1 seconds: Round 7: 0.714s snap/boom gap - Long-range sniper at unknown location (farther than water tower) 1100ft - 1500ft away
ANALYSIS: Rounds 6 and 7 fired from bolt-action rifles. Single shots only. Likely higher caliber: 308 Win or 300 Win Mag
Here's Greg Reese's video (with the same commentary):
https://banned.video/watch?id=669bb930259706ea0f94d004
669bb930259706ea0f94d004
SilentFeathers
20th July 2024, 17:19
UPDATED FORENSIC AUDIO ANALYSIS OF TRUMP SHOOTING
(Updated July 19th, 2024, with most current analysis by Mike Adams)
(Seconds indicate INCOMING arrival time of rounds / sonic crack)
0 seconds: Round 1: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Crooks on roof? 400ft - 450ft away
0.8 seconds: Round 2: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Crooks on roof? 400ft - 450ft away
1.5 seconds: Round 3: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Crooks on roof? 400ft - 450ft away
(roughly 2 second pause, during which actual snipers are likely ordered to commence kill shots on Trump)
4.3 seconds: Round 4: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Assassination sniper inside building? 400ft - 450ft away
4.6 seconds: Round 5: 0.22s snap/boom gap - Assassination sniper inside building? 400ft - 450ft away
4.9 seconds: Round 6: 0.366s snap/boom gap - Medium-range sniper at unknown location (water tower?) 600ft - 700ft away
5.1 seconds: Round 7: 0.714s snap/boom gap - Long-range sniper at unknown location (farther than water tower) 1100ft - 1500ft away
ANALYSIS: Rounds 6 and 7 fired from bolt-action rifles. Single shots only. Likely higher caliber: 308 Win or 300 Win Mag
I don't agree with this....
My theory or gut felt guess: If this was a multi-shooter event (looks like it was)
The kill shot(s), the first 3 shots, 99.9% sure would eliminate Trump came from the 3rd window from the right beneath Crooks.
When the shot burst happened after the first 3 shots, Trump was already on his way down grabbing his head, then was out of view by SS agents covering him. There's no way anyone could be absolutely certain he wasn't bleeding out.
Shots 4 and 5 actually came from Crooks himself.
"Mystery Shooters", shots 6 and 7, I would guess their bullets went directly in to Crooks as they were not about to let him escape alive.
Shot 8, sniper behind Trump, they probably ordered him to put a bullet in Crooks to make sure he was dead. (plus they needed at least one shot from that area)
Regardless if I'm right or wrong, by the way this all went down, Trump was supposed to be killed in my opinion. Simply put, he miraculously dodge a bullet (or 3).
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 17:29
this guys videos from later on show the upper ladder to top of water tower from main ladder
https://x.com/mariagrasmick/status/1814693439662858534
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7/20/24 BUTLER FARM SHOW GROUNDS!!!! CRAZY!!
— HorseDickTheatre (@HorseDckTheatre) July 20, 2024
https://x.com/SMattingly_1221/status/1814696244306161974
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Sara Mattingly
@SMattingly_1221
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@HorseDckTheatre
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@I_Am_JohnCullen
Also notice the little cleared path that comes up along the tree line to the back of the water tower. Someone could have easily accessed the water tower without being spotted.
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 18:46
https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1814708336878895261
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Bret Weinstein
@BretWeinstein
Am I missing something, or has the usual series of post-shooting press conferences simply not materialized?
It seems we don’t even know the basics. How many of these questions have a satisfactory/confirmed answer?
Beyond ‘AR-15’ what weapon, exactly? How was it equipped? What type of ammunition, exactly? How many shots? How many unfired rounds left in the magazine? In the backpack? How many people were hit/grazed? Who are they and what are their injuries. What are President Trump’s injuries? How many fired rounds have been recovered? From where? Is the venue still an active crime scene, and if so, why was the roof being washed? What was the presumptive shooter doing over the several days prior? What was the transmitter for? What else was in the car? Was the shooter in contact with anyone by phone or other device while at the rally? Was the water tower covered? If so, how? If not, why not?
Feel free to provide any answers you think we have official confirmation of. And please suggest other questions that should be readily answerable.
@dbongino
Bret Weinstein
@BretWeinstein
Our lack of factual information about this shooting (ex: how many shell casings were on the roof) is highly irregular. A coverup would, by withholding basic facts, retain flexibility to avoid or explain away anomalies. We should demand a full accounting of the basics. Now.
Inversion
20th July 2024, 19:52
DHS was created after the false flag event 9/11 by the son of a man referred to as the Fuhrer or Poppy in reference to opium. Kent Dunn said the LAPD found out all gang stalking activities are orchestrated through DHS fusion centers. The author (https://projectcamelotportal.com/2018/07/20/michael-fitzhugh-bell-human-targeting-edited-for-picture/) of The Invisible Crime Michael Bell said his problems started just after 9/11. Did the Patriot Act & National Defense Authorization Act facilitate that? The rally would have been street theater. I suspect there was a micro squib in Trump's ear for effect. The story of David & Goliath around 1012 BC plays-out in a similar way. If he missed all of history would have changed. Some group must have installed a micro-charge in his helmet or behind his forehead to steer the timeline to their desire. What if one of the shooters at the rally also shot Goliath.
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 20:31
I suspect there was a micro squib in Trump's ear for effect.
:facepalm:
update: Trump just said from the stage this was the White House Doctor for Obama, Bush, and Trump.
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1814744990998016015
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Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
JUST IN:
@RonnyJacksonTX
just released this letter about how he has been providing medical care to President Trump since the President was shot at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania one week ago.
Dr. Jackson says he’s been personally applying the bandages to President Trump’s ear daily, and that he will be conducting a hearing exam on President Trump as well, but expects him to make a full recovery! He also said he’s been by the President’s side all week long and will be traveling with him to Michigan as well to take care of him as long as he needs to be taken care of.
Thank you,
@RonnyJacksonTX
full image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS9E8kCXoAARLJX?format=jpg&name=medium
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 21:04
copying here
Live now (5pm EDT) (deeply hoping they have security corrected)
sBY8xOgWMXI
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 21:12
https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1814769549360968037
1814769549360968037
For those following the "Water Tower Second Shooter" Theory, this is a really good enhancement of one of the key pieces of footage. 💥
Credit to @maga_juice1776 - give them a follow! #TrumpAssasinationAttempt
— Emergent Perspective (@_emergent_) July 20, 2024
Emergent Perspective reposted
John Cullen 🐓
@I_Am_JohnCullen
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I've got new hero for America.
@maga_juice1776 did the work.
#DoTheWork #CrowdsourceTheTruth #WeDontStop #WeAreJohnCullen
ThePythonicCow
20th July 2024, 21:17
No that's not making sense, about Crooks starting the shooting.
The sound from the recorder position in line of sight ( and sound ) of Crooks on the roof was duller for the first 2 or 3 shots than the shots that started later.
Perhaps those other snipers, not Crooks, started the shooting, when they heard the cops who had just spotted Crooks on the roof, up close, rifle in hand, send out a warning over the radio.
The other snipers would have known that their remaining time to shoot an exposed Trump was down to seconds.
ExomatrixTV
20th July 2024, 21:22
How Law Enforcement Failed to Protect Trump from an Assassination Attempt:
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"Liberal Left Leaning Mainstream Media" New York Times having a YT Channel with 4.5 Million Subscribers
This NYT Video Report may have left out so many other prudent LEGIT questions ... this video is what you are "allowed" to consider ... so much they won't touch.
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
ThePythonicCow
20th July 2024, 21:32
The other snipers would have known that their remaining time to shoot an exposed Trump was down to seconds.
Then, to continue that thought, the first sniper to then get off a round felt in a hurry, so didn't wait until Trump's head seemed to be in a stable, unmoving, position.
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 21:58
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1814780395969520005
1814780395969520005
“They keep saying he’s (Donald Trump) a threat to Democracy. I’m thinking what the hell did I do for Democracy? Last week I took a bullet for Democracy.” — President Trump speaking in Michigan today
— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) July 20, 2024
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1814778951123849564
1814778951123849564
Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
“I owe immigration my life.” — President Trump speaking in Michigan about how the immigration statistic on the screen at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania saved his life.
He jokes that he’s going to sleep with the sign tonight.
Bill Ryan
20th July 2024, 22:00
I'd not been aware so far of Scott Ritter's view on all this. Here he is (with Larry Johnson, too) talking yesterday with Ania K, who asks all the right questions. Ritter is no Trump supporter, not at all. But he's 100% sure this was allowed to happen.
That part of the conversation is only at the start. The rest of the interview is about Israel, Ukraine, Putin, Orban, systemic Russophobia, arms control, and Trump's likely foreign policy.
(Btw, Larry Johnson believes Crooks was the lone gunman. But it's crystal clear that he's unaware of the audio analysis.)
Is DHS Responsible for Assassination Attempt on Trump?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ayh3RyYUWw
Hermoor
20th July 2024, 22:09
I don't trust a word coming out of the mainstream media about this. Unfortunately the alternative media is replete with compromised characters too. But we're at where we're at and it's still early days for figuring this one out as best we can.
This will probably be worth my time and maybe your time too:
https://lightonconspiracies.com/live-webinar-was-donald-trump-shot-or-not/
Footage from the RNC had me furrowing my brow and I switched off when Terry Bollea appeared in character and showcased a number of his polished gimmicks. I still enjoy a good sporting match at the Olympics, but I pretty much gave up on the entertainment branch of grappling when they lowered the theatrics into a moral sewer for kids and adults alike. It just wasn't fun any more. It was primetime utter filth straight from the playbook Yuri Bezmenov warned us all about in the early 1980s.
Bollea and Drumpf go back a long way. Almost as long as Drumpf and Vince McMahon.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GM8AAOSwxdVepcUA/s-l400.jpg
Does anyone else remember the New World Order stable of headlining wrestlers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(professional_wrestling)
The leader was stated as being Kevin "Big Sexy" Nash, but Terry "Hulk Hogan/ Hollywood Hogan" Bollea was always the stable's biggest draw. The NWO started wrasslin' in 1996 to add their considerable public sell to the propaganda that Bush the father started in 1991. Bush's birthing of the NWO into the public lexicon was during his State Of The Union address a mere twelve days after mobilising coalition forces to stop Saddam Hussein's despicable minions from throwing babies out of incubators.
For the more forensically minded amongst us, the photo I really want to see is the one of Drumpf's ear as soon as it emerges from his splendid choice of gimmick currently overselling it.
https://www.outoftownforum.com/data/attachments/2/2780-1f1918a82cd389a3d6ea31c4b4dfaf47.jpg
There is no better composition than this. They got the photo they wanted.
https://www.grapheine.com/en/graphic-design-en/donald-trump-semiology-image
I flagged this up earlier on in the thread. These pesky shoes just keep on defying all manner of (im)probabilities to just keep on showing up in the aftermath of so many pesky goings on. Hint: they are a ritualistic calling card.
https://thefulcrum.us/election-2024/trump-assassination-attempt-reflections
In a way this is the best photo I've seen yet.
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2024-07/240713-donald-trump-rally-violence-11-se-834p-cd7cb7.jpg
GTFOOH. :ROFL:
Professional bodyguards all over the world are either belly laughing at it or facepalming for all they are worth.
There might still be an active shooter or active shooters about to squeeze the trigger due to the opportunity that's just been handed to them on a golden platter. Then again, why do you need to squeeze a trigger if you're close enough to pull a pin instead?
"My gun hand is saving Donald's baseball cap. When TSHTF I was always trained to waste valuable split seconds on rescuing baseball caps in distress. And restrict my gun hand plenty more than necessary. Clouseau taught me everything I know. :sherlock:"
"But Hermoor!" I hear you retort. "Uh, uh.... he's actually a leftie! That's not his gun hand!!"
Then why has he got a frickin' towel in his gun hand to waste even more time with a little scratch?!
When TSHTF you treat the principal like a sack of potatos and manhandle him with as much force as required to get him to a safe place as quickly as possible. Nothing else matters. Zip. Nada. That goes double for lonely baseball caps and pfaffing about with silly f*cking towels.
Oh my days. GTFOOH! :ROFL:
Brace yourself folks. We've been through the Nederlands of peak retard here and the Himalayas are still to come.
Great evil is relying on us to be divided, distracted and deceived. Don't give the Fokkers what they want.
Love and blessings to you all.
ThePythonicCow
20th July 2024, 23:03
Mike Adams does a very good forensic acoustic analysis of, by his reckoning, the 7 incoming shots.
I don't think this audio analysis by Mike Adams has been posted yet. It's a follow-up to Chris Martenson's already well-circulated video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc&t=1s) (which has now had over 460k views). Mike does a good job, explaining his calculations very clearly.
Then, to continue that thought, the first sniper to then get off a round felt in a hurry, so didn't wait until Trump's head seemed to be in a stable, unmoving, position.
Now that I've listened to that recommended analysis from Mike Adams (better late than never), "the first sniper" is indeed likely Thomas Matthew Crooks, on the roof. Since it was likely Crooks himself who started the shooting, there would have been no need for the other snipers to have learned over the radio of Crooks being spotted on the roof by the two policeman. Furthermore, since by Mike Adams further analysis, the next shots, after Crooks initial volley, also came from the same distance, and quite possibly from a rogue sniper in the building beneath Crooks, that sniper could have known from hearing Crooks fire, as well as seeing Trump start to duck, that the shooting had begun.
Once Crooks started shooting, and Trump ducking, the other snipers had little better odds than to start shooting too.
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On another detail - I measure about 840+ feet from the podium at about < 40.85701714634482, -79.97103688007017 > (Google Maps < latitude, longitude > coordinates) to the water tower at < 40.858690414503435, -79.96896243565621 >. So when Mike Adams gets about 1100 to 1500 feet, as amended at the end of Mike Adams' video, distance for the last shot, that is not from the water tower, but from some other high point, further away. It would take a careful analysis, that I am not equipped to do, of lines of site and elevations to determine what location(s) that might be from.
mountain_jim
20th July 2024, 23:29
https://x.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1814785435895292325
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Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
It’s been exactly 1 week since the assassination attempt on my father’s life.
No one has been fired, no answers to the obvious & ridiculous failures have been explained, no committees have been formed to investigate.
The people below and tens of millions more want answers now!
ThePythonicCow
21st July 2024, 00:22
I still am not quite convinced on the water tower angle as part of the plot but am not entirely ruling it out.
Given that none of Mike Adams calculated shot distances are in the 800 to 900 foot range, and given my above Google maps based measurement of about 840 feet from the podium to the water tower, I agree that the water tower is not part of the plot ... at least not to the point that we have evidence of an incoming shot from that distance.
SilentFeathers
21st July 2024, 00:23
I'd not been aware so far of Scott Ritter's view on all this. Here he is (with Larry Johnson, too) talking yesterday with Ania K, who asks all the right questions. Ritter is no Trump supporter, not at all. But he's 100% sure this was allowed to happen.
That part of the conversation is only at the start. The rest of the interview is about Israel, Ukraine, Putin, Orban, systemic Russophobia, arms control, and Trump's likely foreign policy.
(Btw, Larry Johnson believes Crooks was the lone gunman. But it's crystal clear that he's unaware of the audio analysis.)
Is DHS Responsible for Assassination Attempt on Trump?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ayh3RyYUWw
I found it quite strange and was surprised how adamant Larry is about even considering that there may of been a second shooter. He almost sounded like he was angry to even consider the possibility.
A strange and odd position to take considering how ridiculous the whole situation is and that it hasn't been positively ruled out.
SilentFeathers
21st July 2024, 01:29
Too many of us "researchers" are talking about a second shooter so now it is being reported on Fox News that there was indeed a second shooter. A Butler Co. sniper team took a shot from the second story window of the building behind Crooks and missed and it was the sniper team on the roof behind Trump that killed him. (even this makes no sense as this Butler Co. sniper was basically right on top of Crooks)
I had the video up but accidently closed the tab and now can't find it. When I find it I'll embed it in this post.
The Gateway Pundit is also reporting on this:
THEY KEEP CHANGING THEIR STORY: Feds Now Say a Local Sniper Also Shot at Crooks After He Started Firing on President Trump — This Only Took a Week to Report? (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/they-keep-changing-their-story-feds-now-say/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=they-keep-changing-their-story-feds-now-say)
ADDED: There's also rumor/chatter that Kimberly Cheatle will resign by Monday. (unconfirmed)
Moemers
21st July 2024, 02:34
it's quite fascinating to watch the way MSM and "alt researchers" are grooving and shaping this narrative together in real time, watching them bounce off and dance with each other to try and get this to coalesce. this is like watching all 60 years of the JFK shooting research in real time and whatever the actuality i hope that you all are quite grateful to be incarnated here at this current time to witness this.
mythic ****, no matter where you stand on it
thepainterdoug
21st July 2024, 02:43
Moemers, funny I was actually just thinking its quite a time to be alive.
And tonight, I was just hearing once again, low rumbling explosions in the lower Manhatten direction, similar to what I heard on april 29th. Like low underground explosions , continual.and I have been also hearing reports sent to me by a friend of national guard being out in places in the country and some saying, have cash and gas up the vehicles.
Stange stuff in the air, who knows what tomorrow has in store for us?
mountain_jim
21st July 2024, 03:21
https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1814843658849423624
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MJTruthUltra
@MJTruthUltra
Sneak Peak at Interview with Trump
🚨 Despite there being a Credible Threat, Trump says no one Warned Him
• No one told me anything
• I would have waited for 15, 20, 5 minutes
• How did somebody get on that roof?
• Why wasn’t he reported despite people seeing him on the roof?
—— “You had people screaming, “there’s a man on the roof who’s got a gun. That was quite a bit before I walked into the stage. So you woulda thought somebody would have done something about it,”
The full interview airs Monday.
https://x.com/TruthHammer4EVA/status/1814815681910874605
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TruthHammer4EVA
@TruthHammer4EVA
The Office of Inspector General (OIG) can't compel testimony from former employees, including those who resign or retire during an investigation.
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BREAKING: Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle will be resigning as soon as MONDAY after massive pressure following Trump's assassination attempt that God foiled
https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1814838051262046630
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Brian Cates - Political Columnist & Pundit
@drawandstrike
This is, in fact, very true.
Something I learned during the RussiaGate scandal.
One of the biggest hurdle's IG Michael Horowitz faced in investigating how the FBI took the Steele Dossier seriously, and how it conducted it's role in the investigation of General Flynn is that many of the major players had been FIRED from the FBI, or had resigned.
1. Comey
2. Strzok
3. McCabe
4. Lisa Page
Horowitz was reduced to **politely asking** these people to come in for a VOLUNTARY INTERVIEW with his investigators.
Guess how that went.
ThePythonicCow
21st July 2024, 03:38
If you go to these coordinates in Google Map, 40.85918083715413, -79.969816963291, in the northeast corner of the AGR parking lot just south of Whitestown Rd, you can see a ladder up to the platform around the circumference,
Hah - Google is blurring out a key part of the Butler water tower.
The image of the water tower that I included in my post quoted just above, the tower that was near Trump's rally and that might have been a sniper position, is not taken from the ideal angle to see the ladder needed to climb up to, at least, the walkway around the circumference of the water tower.
Substack author ArnGrimR (https://substack.com/@arngrimr), who has had some good insights into this attempted assassination, also has an image of that water tower, from a slightly different angle, taken from a position in the same parking lot, just north of the image in my quoted post above.
The water tower image that ArnGrimR provides in his Substack article Single Shooter, after all! (https://substack.com/home/post/p-146811052) shows the ladder from a better angle than the image I posted.
Here's what ArnGrimR posted:
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Here's what Google Maps now shows of that same image:
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I do however disagree with ArnGrimR that there was a Single Shooter.
If you read ArnGrimR's Substack, he shows that all shots that caused other noticed damage or injuries on the ground came from about the direction of shooter Crooks on the roof.
ArnGrimR does not show that there weren't multiple shooters all from that same direction.
There could have been snipers below Crooks, within the one story building below Crooks, and there could have been snipers in the second story of another two story building, behind and above Crooks.
ArnGrimR is clear enough in his substack article, but apparently couldn't resist the temptation for a good click bait title.
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So ... why in the heck has Google Maps just started blurring that ladder?
ThePythonicCow
21st July 2024, 05:08
Jeffrey Prather spells out the nine (9) assassination attempts against Donald Trump, so far.
Start at the 23:52 mark:
FAGA! FAKE AMERICA GREATLY AGAIN! (The Prather Point; Rumble) (https://rumble.com/v5774lw-faga-fake-america-greatly-again.html)
norman
21st July 2024, 05:44
How rapidly can a single rifle user fire single shots ?
How can a none gun expert like me identify automatic fire ?
Was there any automatic fire ?
norman
21st July 2024, 06:02
If this is a true statement, it explains why someone was shooting high speed bullet capturing photography, which was odd.
https://t.me/candlesinthenight/73600
candlesinthenight/73600
https://t.me/candlesinthenight/73598
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lunaflare
21st July 2024, 06:10
I don't have any further information to add to this thread. It's heartening to read--the care and concern and willingness to problem solve.
I'm simply, wildly, relieved. I can barely imagine the shattering to the collective if the assassination attempt was successfully implemented. I am so grateful to be on this timeline where Trump survives to continue his mission to drive out the dark ways. He has courage and determination. He's eloquent, insightful, funny. He's a man of faith who believes in miracles. Like him or not, he has tremendous support in his country.
norman
21st July 2024, 07:24
Crooks' parents must know a whole shed load of stuff.
I've been thinking Crooks was an integrated 'team' member (but too young and stupid to realize he was the patsy in the pack) for several days. This little piece from George Webb adds some meat to that thought.
I'll need hard evidence that Crooks went out and bought a ladder and ammo etc on the day, and same with the drone recci too.
https://x.com/jcf527/status/1814414443788546216
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norman
21st July 2024, 08:02
This is an interesting twist.
4 Pittsburgh cops joined the event without clear authorization ? . . . .and were the officers who escorted the wounded away, leaving the scene early by doing so.
https://t.me/GeorgeWebb/11491
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Bruce G Charlton
21st July 2024, 09:43
I don't believe that this kind of crime can be solved remotely, by relying on public and hearsay evidence.
Unless an honest and competent investigator, who wants the truth and will tell it, is able and willing to investigate this - it will be one of those many things that we never know who specifically is responsible.
Of course, we already know what happened in broad terms, and broadly who was responsible. But in our corrupt totalitarian society (as with many of the worst evils of the USSR) that may be as much as is realistically likely.
mountain_jim
21st July 2024, 12:16
Not saying I agree with all she says here, but her strong views and Brian Case's point that it's hard to investigate official acts from a person now resigned show that just resignations accomplished little towards getting the truth.
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1814816914490753170
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Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Every single conservative who is saying @SecretService Director Kim Cheatle should simply “resign” is LOW IQ.
We now know she and DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas @AliMayorkas intentionally denied President Trump more security resources when his campaign asked.
We also know that they identified a shooter at least 30 minutes before shots were fired, which was 10 minutes BEFORE President Trump took the stage at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
This means Cheatle and Mayorkas are both now accessories to the MURDER of Corey Comperatore, and accessories to the attempted murder of President Trump, because they, along with other agents on the ground, had knowledge of a plot to kill Donald Trump since they admitted they identified a shooter before Trump took the stage but still allowed him to take the stage and didn’t warn him or the attendees.
We need to be talking about CRIMINAL CHARGES AND PROSECUTIONS.
So many low IQ conservative influencers push weak messaging by simply setting the standards so low.
A resignation won’t do ****. We have enough evidence for CRIMINAL CHARGES AND PROSECUTIONS.
Time for @HouseGOP @SenateGOP to take action and get to work. Vacation time and letter writing time is over.
mountain_jim
21st July 2024, 12:21
If you go to these coordinates in Google Map, 40.85918083715413, -79.969816963291, in the northeast corner of the AGR parking lot just south of Whitestown Rd, you can see a ladder up to the platform around the circumference,
Hah - Google is blurring out a key part of the Butler water tower.
The image of the water tower that I included in my post quoted just above, the tower that was near Trump's rally and that might have been a sniper position, is not taken from the ideal angle to see the ladder needed to climb up to, at least, the walkway around the circumference of the water tower.
Substack author ArnGrimR (https://substack.com/@arngrimr), who has had some good insights into this attempted assassination, also has an image of that water tower, from a slightly different angle, taken from a position in the same parking lot, just north of the image in my quoted post above.
The water tower image that ArnGrimR provides in his Substack article Single Shooter, after all! (https://substack.com/home/post/p-146811052) shows the ladder from a better angle than the image I posted.
Here's what ArnGrimR posted:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53415&d=1721532168&thumb=1Here's what Google Maps now shows of that same image:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53416&d=1721532206&thumb=1===
I do however disagree with ArnGrimR that there was a Single Shooter.
If you read ArnGrimR's Substack, he shows that all shots that caused other noticed damage or injuries on the ground came from about the direction of shooter Crooks on the roof.
ArnGrimR does not show that there weren't multiple shooters all from that same direction.
There could have been snipers below Crooks, within the one story building below Crooks, and there could have been snipers in the second story of another two story building, behind and above Crooks.
ArnGrimR is clear enough in his substack article, but apparently couldn't resist the temptation for a good click bait title.
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So ... why in the heck has Google Maps just started blurring that ladder?
Good question - this video (lower right of my post) from afterwards shows the upper ladder to left of main ladder to use for getting to the top.
also
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1814879696020005009
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MRC report confirms Google is blacklisting Trump's campaign site.
Google is run by the kind of left-wing elites who lecture Americans about "democracy."
https://mrcfreespeechamerica.org/blogs/free-speech/gabriela-pariseau/2024/07/17/google-buries-trump-campaign-website-even-thick
https://x.com/HorseDckTheatre/status/1814682870574628999
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mountain_jim
21st July 2024, 12:26
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1814881737551307037
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Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Now that President Trump has officially secured and confirmed the nomination as the Republican candidate for President, he will start receiving intelligence briefings.
Obviously, there were and still are a lot of people in our intelligence agencies and the Deep State who wanted Donald Trump eliminated before he had access to these intel briefings.
It wasn’t a coincidence that he was almost shot in the head and nearly Assassinated on LIVE television one day before the RNC Convention.
It’s worth noting that vocal opposition by the US intel agencies against President Trump receiving intel briefings began in March of this year.
Ironically, AGR International, the building Thomas Matthew Crooks shot from when he tried to assassinate President Trump last Saturday, was just sold in March of this year to a Clayton, Dubilier and Rice (CD&R) @CDRBuilds subsidiary called INDICOR.
Interesting timing to say the least…
As I said before in my exclusive report below, it is very important for people to understand how the DEEP STATE has a history of using proprietary companies as cutouts.
You can’t provide intelligence briefings to a dead man….
SilentFeathers
21st July 2024, 13:07
A good interview with Larry Cunningham.
BUT,
Once again Larry Johnson goes out of his way and makes another strong point to advocate against the possibility of there being a second shooter. Why???? It hasn't been ruled out.
When Johnson advocates there is no second shooter Cunningham seems confused for a split second and them somewhat agrees with him under his breath and moves on.
In my opinion Larry Johnson is either being bullheaded and blind or someone is telling him to say this.
I like Larry Johnson but this automatically ruling out a second shooter this early when things are so chaotic in the investigation etc throws up a red flag about him in my mind.
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T Smith
21st July 2024, 14:32
Not saying I agree with all she says here, but her strong views and Brian Case's point that it's hard to investigate official acts from a person now resigned show that just resignations accomplished little towards getting the truth.
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1814816914490753170
1814816914490753170
Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Every single conservative who is saying @SecretService Director Kim Cheatle should simply “resign” is LOW IQ.
We now know she and DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas @AliMayorkas intentionally denied President Trump more security resources when his campaign asked.
We also know that they identified a shooter at least 30 minutes before shots were fired, which was 10 minutes BEFORE President Trump took the stage at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
This means Cheatle and Mayorkas are both now accessories to the MURDER of Corey Comperatore, and accessories to the attempted murder of President Trump, because they, along with other agents on the ground, had knowledge of a plot to kill Donald Trump since they admitted they identified a shooter before Trump took the stage but still allowed him to take the stage and didn’t warn him or the attendees.
We need to be talking about CRIMINAL CHARGES AND PROSECUTIONS.
So many low IQ conservative influencers push weak messaging by simply setting the standards so low.
A resignation won’t do ****. We have enough evidence for CRIMINAL CHARGES AND PROSECUTIONS.
Time for @HouseGOP @SenateGOP to take action and get to work. Vacation time and letter writing time is over.
Ahh, my response to this statement is, anyone who believes criminal charges or prosecutions are on the table against Cheatle and Mayorkas is low IQ. The specific charge should be treason.
But until such time of a revolutionary realignment in the United States, there will be no resignations, prosecutions, or criminal indictments, let alone official charges as benign as incompetence.
My guess is both Cheatle and Mayorkas are now due for promotions.
norman
21st July 2024, 14:39
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Speaking of American Glass Research, I saw this reminder of a Jan 2024 tweet by Alex Soros a few days ago on Telegram and considered it for a moment but moved on.
It means nothing if the Butler rally didn't even exist in a planning diary at that time, but if it DID . . . .
A very worthwhile question to get answered right now is, exactly WHEN was the rally date and location made a solid fixture in the Trump campaign diary ?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSZ8T7yXYAAjPnq.jpg
2 days before the shooting CNN published THIS ! ( the wannabe King and Queen of the new post Trump America ? )
Huma Abedin is engaged to George Soros’ son Alex
Thu July 11, 2024
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/11/business/huma-abedin-alex-soros-engagement/index.html
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CNN Thu July 11, 2024
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Huma Abedin, former aide to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, is engaged to Alex Soros, son of billionaire liberal donor George Soros.
The duo revealed the news Wednesday on Instagram, writing: “This happened…we couldn’t be happier, more grateful, or more in love.” Soros proposed to Abedin in late May after less than a year of dating, according to Vogue.
Abedin, 47, and Soros, 38, are both familiar names to anyone who follows politics and business.
Abedin has worked with Hillary Clinton at the White House, Senate, State Department and in her private life for several years. She was previously married to Anthony Weiner, the former Democratic congressman who went to prison for sexting with a minor in 2017, the same year Abedin filed for divorce.
Meanwhile, Soros leads the Open Society Foundations and political action committee, a charitable organization that donates to liberal causes. His father, George, is worth an estimated $6.7 billion, according to Forbes and has given more than $30 billion to his foundation.
The pair met last fall at a “mutual friend’s birthday party, where they quickly discovered their mutual interests in politics and public service,” Vogue reported. They’ve made several public appearances, including this year’s Met Gala and at a White House state dinner.
Vogue notes that Soros will be stepfather to Abedin’s son from her marriage to Weiner. A wedding date wasn’t announced.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/11/business/huma-abedin-alex-soros-engagement/index.html#:~:text=Huma%20Abedin%2C%20former%20aide%20to,%2C%20or%20more%20in%20love.”
SilentFeathers
21st July 2024, 15:08
Bumping Post to add information. (See bottom of post in red)
I'm bumping this post because I think I found something unbelievable and rather beyond coincidence......see below
Chris Martenson has a new daily update coming up 40 minutes from now. (He's doing just what he did at the start of the Covid outbreak in Jan 2020, with information-rich daily reports, and he's deservedly getting a LOT of views.)
Audio Analysis is 100% Clear: Trump & Crowd Were Shot at by Two Separate People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc
Holy crap! This is exactly what I said yesterday in post #511
From post #511
What if???????????? (PURE SPECULATION)
What if that first kill shot actually came from inside the building through one of the windows directly below the shooter, likely the window to his left? Perhaps it was the first 2 or 3 shots. Trump got his ear clipped and the crane also got hit.
What if the quick burst of shots actually came from the shooter on the roof and were the bullets that hit the people in the stands?
Last shot was from the sniper on the "south roof" behind Trump that took the shooter on the roof out?
Yes, my mind is probably over-thinking this and probably quite scrambled after so many hours of studying this whole event. But, at this point and after so many completely insane and ridiculous developments, I honestly believe anything is possible.
It's a very good suggestion, and a highly plausible one. I managed to find a large, high quality image of the area, and with it created the graphic below depicting a scenario where the second shooter may, hypothetically, have been located -- in the window at the far end of the building.
The sight-line matches up closely with the bullet that struck Trump's ear, and the spectators in the bleachers who were, with fine margins, right on that line.
Link for larger: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53403&d=1721398288
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=53403&d=1721398288
Thanks for posting this photo.
The first bullet or 2 that clipped Trumps ear also hit a bystander and railing in the bleachers possibly ricocheting and blowing the hydraulics in the crane in the 6 o'clock position of the photo.
If you lay a straight edge on the photo lining up with the 3rd window from the right of the building, well, it lines up better in my mind.
If there was a second shooter my guess would be that he was shooting from the second or third window from the right, likely the third, which is also more in alignment with the shooter on the roof, Trump, and Crane area.
I think the kid on the roof is the one that hit those high in the bleachers where to my knowledge Cory was. The 1st 3 shots were more spaced and controlled it seems, the shot burst after sounded more sporadic IMO.
See where I wrote in my earlier post highlighted in red? about a second shooter being in the 3rd window from the right directly below where Crooks was up on the roof?????
Well, I found a video clip of Crooks walking directly to that 3rd window and basically looking right into it! The window actually appears to be cracked open towards the inside. It appears then he stands there for a very short period like he's waiting for something (like instructions/orders?) and then walks off. It wasn't long after that that he was next seen up on the roof.
Is this just a coincidence???????????????????????????????
The section in this video showing Crooks walk directly to this window is in the video below during the time 24:11 thru 25:23 in the video.
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Time stamp of the video clip showing Crooks in front of window #3 of the building he shot from is 5:06pm, (approx. 1 hour and 5 minutes before the first shot being fired at Trump.)
Source starting at 13:57 in video:
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Note: This video also shows a photo taken the Wednesday before the rally of the female SS agent who couldn't holster her pistol right after the shooting; so this implies she was part of the advance team.....
onevoice
21st July 2024, 15:23
Ironically, AGR International, the building Thomas Matthew Crooks shot from when he tried to assassinate President Trump last Saturday, was just sold in March of this year to a Clayton, Dubilier and Rice (CD&R) @CDRBuilds subsidiary called Indicor.
As I said before in my exclusive report below, it is very important for people to understand how the DEEP STATE has a history of using proprietary companies as cutouts.
I've seen videos that documented Thomas Crooks visiting at least two of the AGR International buildings days before the rally, so clearly there was major effort for Thomas Crooks to be the central focus in the assassination attempt.
Joseph L. Rice is a founder of the Clayton, Dubilier & Rice (CDR). He has spent the major portion of his business career in private equity and is one of the founders of the industry. Mr. Rice is trustee emeritus of Williams College and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Brookings Institution. He is also a co-founder of the Private Capital Research Institute.
We know that Council on Foreign Relations and the Brookings Institution are both thinktanks of the Deep State, which have been designing its various nefarious projects. Larry Fink (CEO of BlackRock) is a member of the board of director for CFR. Both Bill and Chelsea Clinton are members of the CFR, and Hillary Clinton of course has strong ties to the CFR. George Clooney is a member of CFR, who recently called for Biden to step down. George Clooney recently helped to raise over $20M for Biden campaign.
The following YouTube video explains why it's important to note that George Clooney is calling for Biden to step down.
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mountain_jim
21st July 2024, 16:04
This ZH coverage summarizes the lies and reporting calling out the lies about protection requests denials
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/liar-secret-service-busted-repeatedly-denied-trump-security-requests
"Liar": Secret Service Busted, "Repeatedly" Denied Trump Security Requests
BY TYLER DURDEN
SUNDAY, JUL 21, 2024 - 11:05 AM
The Secret Service has been caught in a lie.
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/imrs.php%283%29.jpg?itok=pU3sAQ4g
Last Sunday, one day after the Trump assassination attempt, Secret Service spox Anthony Guglielmi insisted that it was an "untrue assertion" that Trump's campaign was denied additional security resources, calling it "absolutely false."
"In fact, we added protective resources & technology & capabilities as part of the increased campaign travel tempo," he continued in a post on X.
https://x.com/SecretSvcSpox/status/1812451649387933912
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Guglielmi doubled down three hours later, telling RealClearPolitics' White House correspondent Susan Crabtree that her report on diverted resources was "very wrong." (https://x.com/SecretSvcSpox/status/1812676305860645158)
What's more, "Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle, who has been under pressure to resign over security lapses at the rally, repeated that denial in a meeting with Trump campaign leadership in Wisconsin on Monday," according to the Washington Post.
Fast forward to Saturday, and the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/07/20/trump-secret-service-security-attempted-assassination/) reveals that they lied.
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/wapo%20ss.PNG?itok=1OTE1ZoR
https://x.com/themarketswork/status/1814802177111843014
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According to the new report, "Top officials at the U.S. Secret Service repeatedly denied requests for additional resources and personnel sought by Donald Trump’s security detail in the two years leading up to his attempted assassination at a rally in Pennsylvania last Saturday, according to four people familiar with the requests."
Agents charged with protecting the former president requested magnetometers and more agents to screen attendees at sporting events and other large public gatherings Trump attended, as well as additional snipers and specialty teams at other outdoor events, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive security discussions. The requests, which have not been previously reported, were sometimes denied by senior officials at the agency, who cited various reasons, including a lack of resources at an agency that has long struggled with staffing shortages, they said.
Those rejections — in response to requests that were several times made in writing — led to long-standing tensions that pitted Trump, his top aides and his security detail against Secret Service leadership, as Trump advisers privately fretted that the vaunted security agency was not doing enough to protect the former president.
The Secret Service, after initially denying turning down requests for additional security, is now acknowledging some may have been rejected. The revelation comes as agency veterans say the organization has been forced to make difficult decisions amid competing demands, a growing list of protectees and limited funding. -WaPo
After WaPo confronted Guglielmi, he said that the agency 'had learned new information indicating the agency’s headquarters may have in fact denied some requests for additional security from Trump’s detail," something he should have probably checked before be lied.
https://x.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1814824429475467724
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Meanwhile, the Secret Service tried to block a Trump team request for metal detectors at his son Barron's high school graduation, according to the NY Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/20/us/politics/secret-service-trump-shooting.html).
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/669ce7282d66759f66fcb034.jpg?itok=ptr4oP0u
According to the WaPo report, a Secret Service official who spoke on the condition of anonymity said that the agency has finite resources, and has to juggle competing demands - particularly for countersnipers, counterassault teams, and teams of uniformed division officers.
So - it appears they gave Trump the Temu team because they were spread too thin.
https://x.com/themarketswork/status/1814999136334172605
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Butler Township calls BS
In response to the Secret Service trying to pin the blame on local PD, Butler Township commissioner Edward Natali said that the Butler Township Pollice Department had no security responsibility at the event - and that there were just seven officers, all assigned to traffic detail.
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/GS9eY6bXAAAhSo2.jpg?itok=RG5Gt8h1
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As The Conservative Treehouse (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/07/20/officials-admit-the-biden-administration-denied-security-requests-by-agents-assigned-to-protect-donald-trump/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=officials-admit-the-biden-administration-denied-security-requests-by-agents-assigned-to-protect-donald-trump) points out, the silence here is deafening...
The biggest question inside the investigation of the Trump assassination attempt, is the thing no one has mentioned. Why have there been no daily press briefings?
Where are the official 10:00am press briefing updates every day on the investigation?
Where are the official press conferences from the Secret Service, FBI and law enforcement answering questions and providing information from the prior days investigative results?
Where are the organized and official updates to let the American people know what has been found out about the assassination attempt on President Donald Trump?
Continued...
The absence of official press briefings has been the dog that didn’t bark.
Instead, the Secret Service, FBI and Law Enforcement have been selectively leaking details, testing what would be and would not be accepted, and we have only seen controlled snippets of information.
Much of the information within those leaks has been lies, sometimes absurd in their construct, pushed through a generally incurious media.
Smart people have noted the absence of the official public information process indicates something very sketchy in the background. [ie. the dog that didn’t bark]
The attempted assassination of President Trump is a big deal; perhaps one of the biggest events in recent history. There is massive public interest.
If ordinary procedures and protocols were being followed, we would have official daily updates at scheduled press conferences, and the media would be able to present questions based on presented information. The absence of these press briefings told us something that is not good. But perhaps today, we find out why.
And what's this now?
https://x.com/_johnnymaga/status/1815029307397296418
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Maria Bartiromo says a man in a grey suit climbed the ladder while police were taking pics of Thomas Crooks’ body & gave them a number to send the pics to
Police thought the man was Secret Service, but he wasn’t
This story keeps getting more unbelievable
ExomatrixTV
21st July 2024, 16:26
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mountain_jim
21st July 2024, 16:33
https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1815055060906266868
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MJTruthUltra
@MJTruthUltra
HOLY SMOKES! Trump Assassination Attempt — It’s all about to Blow UP!!
🚨Senator Ron Johnson: A SECOND SHOOTER — And a Mystery ATF Agent that’s Now Gone Dark!
• July 13, Secret Service did not attend the 9am Security meeting with Local Law Enforcement
—— Law Enforcement wasn’t even on the same security channel
—— The Sniper and Swat teams weren’t on the same channels as patrol officers, or Secret Service
• At 10:30am in the morning, the local PD team told to secure the perimeter of the AGR building.
—— no one told them where to go, so they set up on the 2nd floor.
• At 5:14pm ET, The Local Sniper Team took photos of the Shooter, Crooks, in the AGR building.
—— why wasn’t he intercepted?
—— the photo(s) were taken at 5:14pm ET, and Trump was shot at 6:11pm ET
• A Preliminary report will be released to solicit more eye witness testimony.
— if you have any videos, save it!
🔴 A SECOND SHOOTER?
— Was it one rifle? Was it more than one?
— there were three distinct shots early on, followed by another five more rapidly five… how do explain that?
“I’ve seen things from experts that cause us to question the FBI saying there was a single shooter.”
🔴 A MYSTERY ATF AGENT THAT’S GONE DARK!
• The Sniper team was the first to go on the roof and began taken pictures of the dead body.
— Someone in a suit approached them and told them to send those photos to an ATF Agent…
— “I thought this was very strange.”
— No one even asked him for credentials. They thought it was Secret Service
— They tried to call the ATF Agent, BUT NOW HE’S GONE DARK!!!!! They cannot find him. WTF!!!!
Why in the hell was the Local Law Enforcement being told to send photos to the Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms Agency?
Why has the ATF Agent gone Dark??
#InsideJob Job
mountain_jim
21st July 2024, 16:36
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1815057551068729393
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Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Did someone from a US intelligence agency hide a rifle for Thomas Matthew Crooks to use to try to assassinate President Trump?
I’m willing to bet it will come out eventually.
A lot of people in our government need to be charged and sent to jail over this obvious inside job and plot to kill President Trump 5 days before Donald Trump was set to start receiving classified intelligence briefings again…
This was planned.
A lot of people didn’t want Trump having access to intel briefings again.
Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
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The rifle used by Thomas Matthew Crooks to try to assassinate President Trump was HIDDEN next to the building he used to carry out the shooting. Crooks retrieved the rifle when he walked across the field, as opposed to carrying the gun like we were originally told.
Who hid the rifle for Crooks that he used to try to assassinate President Trump?
Secret Service swept the building that Crooks climbed on top of the day before the shooting, according to the CEO of Indicor, which is the company that owns the building via CD&R.
How did they miss a hidden rifle?
Looks like it was planted for Crooks by someone on site the day of the shooting.
INSIDE JOB!
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ZNO 🇺🇸
@therealZNO
To be clear: just because SS swept the building doesn’t mean they missed seeing the rifle—read that again.
update to post - sounded like an official said 'shot fired towards the blue water tower' on this recording
https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1815059704143647021
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Emergent Perspective
Evidence of a 2nd co-conspirator is stacking up...
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𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆: 911 recording reveals a person at the water tower despite ZERO coverage on that there was more than one shooter.…
jaybee
21st July 2024, 18:09
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Don't think we've had this video yet....
It's 41:55 mins long but the time slips by and I found it engaging - and educational - they are taking a detailed look at the woman behind Trump who instantly starts filming and who's body language (and facial expression with the little smile - if it was a little smile).... is a bit incongruous ....
I would expect there to be a few plain clothes security people and body guards in the crowd close to Trump - and the behavior of a couple (some) of them - like the man with the hat who scans the surrounding area straight after the shots ... would be on alert for attacks coming from the close crowd.... perhaps all those really close are security of some kind..?
Now the woman in question, IMO... was either official security tasked with being at the ready with her phone - or - if she was part of a group working with the assassin(s) she would be there to record the (death?) scene from close by - at that moment she starts recording the scene close up - it can't have been clear whether Trump has suffered a fatal shot..... or what damage the gunshots had done -
DID THIS WOMAN KNOW?! Military Body Language Expert Reacts to Suspicious Woman at Trump Rally!
fE9qHlke_E8
20 Jul 2024
Donald Trump's assassination attempt made news all over the world. But shortly after the video was released, viewers started to get very suspicious of a woman sitting behind the presidential candidate due to her strange body language. But is her non-verbal communication REALLY a concern and what can her facial expressions and body language actually reveal? Join my guest, Chase Hughes (from The Behavior Panel) and I to find out now!
SilentFeathers
21st July 2024, 18:20
Biden stepped down and rumor has it Kim Cheatle will likely resign tomorrow. I bet the assassin that fired those first 3 shots and missed Trump is floating in a river somewhere......
Gwin Ru
21st July 2024, 18:24
...
... hmmmm... audio analysis... audio analysis... what if... all these sounds are from a prerecorded audio soundtrack plugged into the microphone feed following Trump's cue line:
“…if you want to look at something that’s sad take a look at what happen”
"pa-paw"?
That would mean that "all of 'em were in on it" and it becomes then obvious that the whole thing was "allowed to happen".
If, however, really real bullets from real guns were flying around, then, one of the following is a fake":
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On the top one, I don't see a 2cm wide gap (as describe by the White House physician (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1624116&viewfull=1#post1624116) that needed no sutures) nor blood pissing on the shirt collar... just a bloodied, waxed ear.
In the video, a projectile trajectory can be approximated as sub-parallel to the upper edge of the stage left bleacher (I mistakenly identified it as the stage right bleacher in post #596 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623706&viewfull=1#post1623706)).
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So, that makes it a bi-locating magic bullet or Donald faked it and that makes it a false flag.
Now, "who" was/is the intended culprit for this outrageous display of "incompetence"?
Now it is very interesting that the graphics from this video [now yanked - see screen shot] gives a line of sight to the stage-left bleacher and the SS snipers on the roof... which corroborates with that other video of these same SS snipers getting spooked (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1623432&viewfull=1#post1623432) on that other video mentioning they were shot at... woo-woo...
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All these misdirections gives me the impression of playing a giant game of billiard/pool with constant bouncing around zillion balls...
Delight
21st July 2024, 19:05
Senator Ron Johnson
Preliminary findings in my investigation into the attempted assassination of President Trump:
Full report including time line
(https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/services/files/4E6577F1-8AD2-4CB9-9FC7-5896C27A9647)https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/services/files/4E6577F1-8AD2-4CB9-9FC7-5896C27A9647.pdf
Delight
21st July 2024, 19:56
I really appreciate Greg Reese. This is his Sunday podcast and he rambles a bit and shares his mental processes. I hope some will enjoy thinking about how OUR confirmation bias does shape our perceptions. He talks about the conclusion he has that Trump did not fake this attempt.
He mentions the antiChrist/ordained by God split that some have developed. Trump is a HUGE character. If he had been assassinated, Reese thinks a conflagration would have occurred (Spontaneous and Natural... ?????).There is a huge mystery and seems enormous and we do not know the outcome. Apparently this is a way to mitigate "confirmation" bias.
Confirmation Bias
The Sunday afternoon podcast with Greg Reese
JUL 21, 2024 (https://gregreese.substack.com/p/confirmation-bias?publication_id=706779&post_id=146852098&r=4hu4r&triedRedirect=true)
ThePythonicCow
21st July 2024, 20:25
MRC report confirms Google is blacklisting Trump's campaign site.
I don't have the list of the corporations donating to Trump's campaign ... but I'm willing to hazard a guess, in public no less:
Alphabet/Google is not on that list.
mountain_jim
21st July 2024, 21:24
Gwin Ru - your post and video asserting it was all fake (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123316-----Trump-Shot--but-safe------Live-Now-on-all-News-Channels&p=1624273&viewfull=1#post1624273)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iVtzRnMHFVU9/
is in my view so much less professional and well documented as to sources, audio controls, and distance to shot sources than Chris Martenson (https://peakprosperity.com/audio-analysis-is-100-clear-trump-crowd-were-shot-at-by-two-separate-people/) and Mike Adam's (https://www.brighteon.com/embed/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09/) analysis videos, with details explaining angle of trajectory, triangulation to likely sources, which bullet source pierced the hydraulic line and killed or injured the people, etc.
Following are some comments with that BitChute video you posted (https://www.bitchute.com/video/iVtzRnMHFVU9/):
IRHologram
None of your thesis works out with auditory analysis that's now been released by several labs. I feel Chris Martinson's Peak Prosperity's lab consultant has done the most thorough explanation of distance and trajectory as synched with videos of multi-views on the platform . And BTW the SS Sniper didn't even have his finger on the trigger at the interval you state.
There WERE shots coming from both sides...from the building where Crooks was on the roof, and from the other side of the platform where at virtually the same instant, the hydraulic line on a piece of equipment was shot through, puffs of gunsmoke were seen, and 2 folks on the platform simultaneously dropped shot. [show less]
rgcdeerhunter@gmail.com
Nice explanation but one major problem the snipers on roof are not the ones firing because they are using bolt action rifles and the shots were from a semi automatic rifle . As you can easily see he doesn’t even move the bolt and it was the sniper on an adjacent building that took the one shot at the shooter.
Republics-Last-Stand
Sorry, I don't see what you are saying. That SS sniper was off the scope, on the scope, did not even have the weapon shouldered part of the time, was pointing it down, then up... Sorry, interesting observations, but I completely disagree with your conclusions.
rgcdeerhunter@gmail.com
Not to mention the snipers use bolt action rifles and the shots heard were from a semi automatic plus those weren’t even the snipers that took the shot to neutralize the assassin as they were on an adjacent building. Debunked
steamship
Around the 2:55 mark, the secret service sniper takes his eye away from his sight and looks in the direction of the other building. He seems to have better eyesight than with the scope as he then seems to realise that the other person has a rifle. He reacts to this by going back to the scope and in the process the rifle moves up slightly before he fires. He then takes his eye away from the sight again and fires two more times without the scope, and with his rifle pointed downwards. How did you miss this in your description? If anything, that would mean the secret service sniper was firing blanks, as those three shots would have gone anywhere but the target! [show less]
rgcdeerhunter@gmail.compissedoffben
Unfortunately they are using bolt action rifles and the shots came from a semi automatic rifle. Bolt actions can’t fire that fast so this explanation is easily debunked
@Sebastian
Perhaps you are right.
However, you cannot bleed to death from cutting your ear. It is not possible. The ear is mostly cartilage. Cartilage has little vascularization. The skin on the head, does have a good blood supply. Anywhere's on the head or scalp will bleed profusely.
That’s why there wasn’t a lot of blood seen.
Why is there a dead person and what about the two wounded people found behind Trump?
I just want to know
Sondermüll
Has to be bull****. There were at least 5 shots and having your ears pieced neverr bleed any pieced persob to death. In fact, they barely bleed at all.
So here is a really interesting and excellently researched analysis: https://youtu.be/P6hTbo6IKSI?si=MXWO8uXFLiTqr469 It was not staged.
Here's another analysis video (maybe posted previously and I missed, saw link elsewhere) asserting multiple shooters, with more evidence, showing the elevated 2nd floor open window, that lines up with the trajectory they calculated based on Trumps head position at strike time.
16:50 - video from audio back near buildings - first 3 shots distinctly different - not sound from speakers either - do not have echo - likely fired from inside of building
- other shots do have echo - close to where video shot (out in audience)
says other videos support sound analysis that distance 70' apart from sources of the first 3 and other shots
"we should not be guessing about caliber and round count at this point"
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ThePythonicCow
21st July 2024, 22:28
So ... why in the heck has Google Maps just started blurring that ladder?
They are now blocking off that water tower from traffic.
https://x.com/legislationpage/status/1814017254364704901
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Satori
21st July 2024, 22:34
They’re securing a potential crime scene, they will say. More like sanitizing a crime scene of global implications. Some will say.
Plausible deniability. I say.
ThePythonicCow
21st July 2024, 22:58
So when Mike Adams gets about 1100 to 1500 feet, as amended at the end of Mike Adams' video, distance for the last shot, that is not from the water tower, but from some other high point, further away. It would take a careful analysis, that I am not equipped to do, of lines of site and elevations to determine what location(s) that might be from.
Also, around the 17 minute mark of Mike Adams' video, he notices what appear to be a couple of echo's of the rifle report sound, which would have come from other large surfaces nearer to the shooter, as the sound of him shooting his rifle echo'd off near (to him) by walls.
There are no walls near the top of the water tower.
This suggests that that last threat sniper shot came from a taller, or higher elevation, building, near one or more other such buildings, at that 1100 to 1500 ft distance from Trump's podium.
ThePythonicCow
21st July 2024, 23:01
More like sanitizing a crime scene
Isn't that the FBI's job ;)
ExomatrixTV
21st July 2024, 23:01
I'd not been aware so far of Scott Ritter's view on all this. Here he is (with Larry Johnson, too) talking yesterday with Ania K, who asks all the right questions. Ritter is no Trump supporter, not at all. But he's 100% sure this was allowed to happen.
That part of the conversation is only at the start. The rest of the interview is about Israel, Ukraine, Putin, Orban, systemic Russophobia, arms control, and Trump's likely foreign policy.
(Btw, Larry Johnson believes Crooks was the lone gunman. But it's crystal clear that he's unaware of the audio analysis.)
Is DHS Responsible for Assassination Attempt on Trump?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ayh3RyYUWw
Scott Ritter REVEALS: The Truth Behind Assassination of Donald Trump:
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norman
21st July 2024, 23:15
So ... why in the heck has Google Maps just started blurring that ladder?
They are now blocking off that water tower from traffic.
https://x.com/legislationpage/status/1814017254364704901
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Google Street View hasn't blurred the ladder (yet) (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@40.8587293,-79.9699676,3a,15y,93.13h,97.48t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sdS7-twnMcmWOgSo1zFUn5w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DdS7-twnMcmWOgSo1zFUn5w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D93.1258186747714%26pitch% 3D-7.480503277228777%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu)
Keep in mind that people are hard at work misdirecting us.
ThePythonicCow
22nd July 2024, 00:01
Google Street View hasn't blurred the ladder (yet)
Hmmm ... maybe we're both right.
In Google Maps street view, travel south within the parking lot to the northwest of the water tower, looking up to the water tower 300+ feet to your southeast, along the following three locations, that are about two parking spaces each apart (each 0.1 seconds of latitude arc is about 3 meters or 10 feet).
40°51'33.1"N 79°58'11.3"W -- ladder on tower clear
40°51'32.9"N 79°58'11.3"W -- ladder on tower blurred
40°51'32.7"N 79°58'11.3"W -- ladder on tower clear
Gwin Ru
22nd July 2024, 00:41
[...]
... showing the elevated 2nd floor open window, that lines up with the trajectory they calculated based on Trumps head position at strike time.
[...]
That extrapolation assumes that Trump was hit by a bullet... that very magic bullet which bi-located between Trump and the upper edge of the stage-left bleacher. Which of those two events displays the best evidence of being the effect of a bullet? Both events occurring right along with the first "Pa-Paw" heard through the speakers.
Therefore I contend that one of these two events was a simulation because two bullets fired at the same time with a single sound track can hardly be achieved unless triggered by computer.
Now, the Mockingbird press has been very good at hammering the Trump turning his head video, worldwide, instead of this other short snippet:
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The above video provides a lot more firmer ground and premise for extrapolations than taking for granted that Trump's bloody ear is due to a bullet and start building a house of cards on that unproven automatic assumption...
If the snipers whose shots we can hear had the Donald in their crosshair, he would have been a dead duck.
SilentFeathers
22nd July 2024, 01:38
An excellent compilation of what is known so far 7-21-2024 - Several bits of info I haven't heard yet and I've been following all of this closely.
Trump Assassination Attempt Breakdown: What We Know & What We DON'T Know
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SilentFeathers
22nd July 2024, 02:13
This video is rather interesting. We've reached a point where we should be trying to prove this wasn't an inside job rather than it was one.
It also shows the Keystone Cop SS advance team walking the grounds a few days before the event which were a couple men and the 3 women who looked confused and scared s**tless when they were putting Trump in the beast after he was shot.
Trump shooter and DHS trained at same PA gun range
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Vangelo
22nd July 2024, 02:17
Interesting 3D model of the bullets, the shooting of the 3 victims (including Trump) and the forklift hose. This model presumes a lone gunman (Note: I believe Chris Martenson and Greg Reese work is compelling and therefore believe there was more than one shooter)
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Vangelo
22nd July 2024, 02:37
Was There A Second Shooter? Owen Shroyer And John Cullen Debate
source: (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/was-there-a-2nd-shooter-owen-shroyer-and-john-cullen-debate/)
This is a well argued video presenting multiple shooters.
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mountain_jim
22nd July 2024, 13:03
https://x.com/tristanleavitt/status/1815156758782062811
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Tristan Leavitt
@tristanleavitt
🚨🚨 BREAKING: Whistleblower documents provided to Congress by @EMPOWR_us
show the Secret Service assigned only 3 Secret Service post standers to Trump’s July 13 rally—and 12 to Jill Biden’s dinner the same day: https://realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/07/21/grassley_letter_to_secret_service_director_highlights_major_security_lapses.html.
Senator @ChuckGrassley wrote to Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle about the disparity.
This follows reports from @SenRonJohnson’s staff that the Secret Service allegedly only assigned counter-snipers one day before the event, after initially planning to send none, and from Senator @HawleyMO that the Secret Service considered this a “loose security” event.
SilentFeathers
22nd July 2024, 14:18
The democrat ranking member opening statement starts out immediately about gun control and banning weapons, nothing hardly at all about the security failures and Trump getting shot in the face.
This is beyond pathetic, but not surprising.
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Nasu
22nd July 2024, 14:43
So after action analyses and conspiracies aside, let’s get this timeline as close as we can, according to the so called official narrative and reports..
The day before the assassination attempt, Crooks visits a local shooting range, which he was a member of for the previous year, the Clairton Sportsmen’s Club, also used by the Department of Homeland Security.
Crooks had no social media accounts but did have three encrypted overseas accounts which are not yet decoded. He left a message on the gaming platform Steam, in which he said that "July 13 will be my premiere, watch as it unfolds.”
In an unclassified briefing on Wednesday the 17th, law enforcement officials said 20 minutes passed between when Secret Service snipers first spotted Crooks on the roof and when he opened fire on Trump. He was identified as a person of interest 62 minutes before the shooting.
Just before Crooks opened fire, rally-goers spotted him on the roof and tried to alert the police and Secret Service, but Trump was not pulled from the stage at any time in the 20 minutes since Crooks had being spotted on the roof by Secret Service snipers or the 62 minutes before, that he was identified as a person of interest..
A Butler Township police officer attempted to stop the shooter, climbing up the roof to approach him, but Crooks pointed his gun at the officer, prompting the officer to retreat, according to Butler County Sheriff.
It was at this point that Crooks fired his weapon eight times toward Trump, who at that moment turned to look at a Jumbotron, saving his life.
Corey Comparatore, a 50 year-old former volunteer fire chief died while trying to protect his family during the attempted assassination - he dived onto them to shield them from the bullets, but was fatally shot.
David Dutch, a 57 year-old long-time employee of the technology company Siemens, suffered damage to his liver and broken ribs in the shooting and has had to have more than one operation.
James Copenhaver, a 74 year-old, retired man from Moon Township, Pennsylvania, was also wounded in the shoulder.
A Secret Service sniper shot back at Crooks, fatally shooting him in the head 26 seconds after Crooks first opened fire.
The FBI said that, after the assassin was killed he was searched for ID but had none, he was instead dentified by facial recognition and DNA by the local authorities within an hour. When the FBI searched Crooks’ home and vehicle to collect additional evidence, suspicious devices were found and have since been “rendered safe” by bomb technicians.
Investigators found a bulletproof vest, three fully loaded magazines, and two remote-controlled explosives in his car, which was parked near the rally. Crooks was found with a detonator next to his body, and his car’s trunk contained a metal box of explosives connected with wires to a receiver.
He also had a drone, which, he used to aerially scout the site of the rally just hours before the shooting.
So in conclusion:
Despite the Secret Service adding protective resources and technology and capabilities as part of the increased campaign travel tempo, the assassin, Crooks, a 20 yo working in a nursing home, on the day of the shooting takes the day off work, buys a five foot ladder from home depot and fifty rounds of ammo, borrows a rifle from his dad, then is seen using a range finder, but evades capture by the police and Secret Service for over an hour. He is then spotted by the public on a nearby unsecured building only a hundred and fifty yards away from Trump, then is able to get 8 shots off before being shot by a counter sniper team.
In short he completely evades the highest trained security organization on earth. But to be fair, he was a fully trained dietary aid, a lone wolf and a member of a rifle club for over a year.
Have I missed anything according to the official narrative?
It all sounds pretty legit to me, clearly nothing else to see here, case closed, move along…..x…. N
Updated timeline:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7l83idKgso
Mark (Star Mariner)
22nd July 2024, 16:13
She wriggles from these questions with the skill of a politician. She should run for office.
BREAKING NEWS: Jim Jordan Goes Absolutely Nuclear On Secret Service Director Over Trump Shooting
At today's House Oversight Committee hearing, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) tore into Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle over her handling of former President Trump's security.
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Gwin Ru
22nd July 2024, 16:45
Was There A Second Shooter? Owen Shroyer And John Cullen Debate
source: (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/was-there-a-2nd-shooter-owen-shroyer-and-john-cullen-debate/)
This is a well argued video presenting multiple shooters.
[...]It seems like John Cullen is having as much of a hard time as I have, to get it across that Trump couldn't have been hit by that first shot...
Yet, Trump, at the moment that first shot was heard, started lifting his right hand towards his ear (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo1ZAQ8M2Fg)... not possible with the constraints imposed on the trajectory of that first shot by the evidence occurring at that same moment along the upper edge of the stage-left bleacher! Yet Trump already had his hand to his ear by the time of the second shot and was ducking at the time of the third shot.
That's why I am calling Trump's bloodied ear a simulation.
SilentFeathers
22nd July 2024, 17:05
She wriggles from these questions with the skill of a politician. She should run for office.
BREAKING NEWS: Jim Jordan Goes Absolutely Nuclear On Secret Service Director Over Trump Shooting
At today's House Oversight Committee hearing, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) tore into Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle over her handling of former President Trump's security.
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Same ole song and dance as usual. The left filibusters for gun control and the right yells about how naughty she is.
thepainterdoug
22nd July 2024, 17:24
She answers all question as if schooled in the; take no responsibility , remain vague , we've got your back, you are protected, corrupt ,lefty democrat Soros funded, this will all blow over, school of total lies and evasion,
All while the country, under crippling inflation and the high costs of everything is rocked to sleep by a bought and criminally owned MSMedia to disorient the people.
So far its been working.
Up next, The Cackling Camel, perhaps the emptiest vessel in this surreal sketch so far.
hold on friends
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Nasu
22nd July 2024, 17:24
Was There A Second Shooter? Owen Shroyer And John Cullen Debate
source: (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/was-there-a-2nd-shooter-owen-shroyer-and-john-cullen-debate/)
This is a well argued video presenting multiple shooters.
[...]It seems like John Cullen is having as much of a hard time as I have, to get it across that Trump couldn't have been hit by that first shot...
Yet, Trump, at the moment that first shot was heard, started lifting his right hand towards his ear (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo1ZAQ8M2Fg)... not possible with the constraints imposed on the trajectory of that first shot by the evidence occurring at that same moment along the upper edge of the stage-left bleacher! Yet Trump already had his hand to his ear by the time of the second shot and was ducking at the time of the third shot.
That's why I am calling Trump's bloodied ear a simulation.
So to be clear, as I understand you, please correct me if I’ve got this wrong in any way. Your saying that this was a staged event by the Trump team to boost his ratings in the run up to the election, right?
So THEY, being the Trump team, would have had to in some way hire Crooks to be the patsy for this, a big ask, to say the least.
THEY must have conspired to make sure that elements of Homeland Security, local law enforcement and Secret Service were in on it, in order to seem like they performed so poorly that day, allowing the patsy to be able able to mount the unsecured roof top.
THEY must have instructed one or more shooters to wound and kill the other rally goers, to make it seem more real.
THEY must have killed their patsy, who apparently wasn’t a stupid person and presumably would have known his demise was included in the plan.
THEY must have put fake blood on his ear after the shots were fired and then in some way forced a doctor to lie about his wounds.
THEY would have to have to include many many individuals into this conspiracy, thereby creating tens or hundreds of weak links, that would need to be cleaned up after the event.
THEY would have to believe that not one of those weak links would ever talk.
THEY would take that chance, given Trump’s lead in the poles before this event and seemingly inevitable presidential win.
It seems like a lot to stage, given the obvious potential for failure and to be found out with so many loose ends and therefore lose ANY chance to become president. How are you imagining that these problems were overcome in your scenario?
Occam’s razor suggests that for problem-solving principles it is recommended to search for explanations that are constructed with the smallest possible set of elements. To me, your explanation suggest the largest amount of possible elements, rather than the contrary.
Have I missed something?…….x…… N
ThePythonicCow
22nd July 2024, 17:24
Yet, Trump, at the moment that first shot was heard, started lifting his right hand towards his ear...
That's because the second shot was made within milliseconds of the first shot, as John Cullen shows us when he points out that just a few video frames _after_ all the "kinetic reactions" to the first shot passing along the upper row of the stage left (most southern) bleacher, one more man (white shirt, black pants) standing in the second row from the top, but in line with Crookes on the AGR roof, and Trump, is also hit.
That evidence, which I found to be quite persuasive, is somewhere in the 2.5 hours interview linked below. Bret Weinstein takes a long time to say nearly the same things over and over, and John Cullen builds slowly to his key observations.
I'll need to have some coffee and properly index this interview. It's unfair of me to ask others to listen to it end to end to find the key nuggets. On my first listen, last night, I found Cullen's evidence to be very persuasive.
There were two nearly simultaneous opening shots. One shot came from the direction of the water tower, which startled the (likely intended target) Secret Service snipers on the roof of the northern most building of the three buildings behind Trump, and the other shot came from the direction of the AGR roofs, presumably shot by Crookes, that lines up with Trump and the one additional man (white shirt, black pants) who was hit, standing in the second row from the top of that same bleacher, stage left, south of Trump.
So if Cullen's observations are accurate, Trump did start to flinch at almost exactly the same time as the first shot, even though that first shot went nowhere near him. The second shot did go near him, and was shot at almost the same time. Those, such as Chris Martenson and Mike Adam, who have analyzed the "krack-boom" time deltas for each gun shot, using the public audio from Trump's microphone, would not notice two shots, because the two boom's would have reached Trump's microphone at practically the same time, and the first shot's krack (from its supersonic flight path) was too far away from Trump's microphone to show up on that audio track.
(I might have glitched a detail or two in the previous two paragraphs - typing from memory here.)
How Many Shooters? John Cullen on the Trump Assassination Attempt (The Darkhorse Podcast) (https://x.com/thedarkhorsepod/status/1815166848176099783)
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P.S. -- Ah - good - someone has already posted a follow-up tweet (https://x.com/thedarkhorsepod/status/1815290227059310640) to the above Darkhorse Podcast, giving some timestamps of topics covered in the interview:
Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(03:50) Las Vegas shooting, COVID, and inductive reasoning
(10:00) Asperger's as a tool
(15:50) Sponsors
(18:00) John's background
(23:35) First look at the attempted Trump assassination
(28:15) Eye witness accounts
(35:10) Journalists as disinformation spreaders
(38:02) Second shooter on water tower
(52:10) First shot at Trump
(01:19:30) Trajectory of first and second bullets
(01:31:30) Lack of disclosure at press conferences
(01:36:10) A third shooter?
(01:45:00) Trump's head position and the water tower
(01:50:20) Indirect communication with Trump around 1917 flu
(01:56:05) Water tower shooter
(02:09:00) Chris Martenson's audio analysis
(02:20:00) Was somebody killed on the water tower?
(02:22:40) Las Vegas shooting
(02:24:10) Suspect on the run
(02:28:30) Back to Vegas shooting
(02:32:25) Back to audio analysis
(02:43:40) Wrap up
ThePythonicCow
22nd July 2024, 17:37
THEY must have instructed one or more shooters to wound and kill the other rally goers, to make it seem more real.
A couple of days ago, I would have more or less agreed with Gwin Ru, albeit with a twist. I was figuring (though not posting in public, as I sensed my "figuring" was too far freakin out to be credible) that the (D) team really did set out to assassinate Trump (hence the woeful lack of adequate Secret Service protection), but that the (Trump) team got wind of the assassination plot and turned it against the (D) team.
However now that I am learning what a bloody (*) shooting gallery this event was, I have changed my mind. No way would Trump or his key staff put him in the midst of such a shooting gallery, trusting on a gust of wind and a turn of the head to avoid having Trump's brains blown out in full public view. No way.
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(*) "bloody" in the red blooded Yankee sense, not in the British dark humor sense.
ThePythonicCow
22nd July 2024, 18:25
... and the other shot came from the direction of the AGR roofs, presumably shot by Crookes, that lines up with Trump and the one additional man (white shirt, black pants) who was hit, standing in the second row from the top of that same bleacher, stage left, south of Trump.
John Cullen starts his commentary on this second shot hitting the man in the white shirt, black pants, at about the 1:09:30 mark in this Dark Horse podcast (https://x.com/thedarkhorsepod/status/1815166848176099783).
Cullen is clearly not a hardcore computer hardware engineer. When he says "a millisecond", he uses that word in a way closer to the more common sense of "a small fraction of a second", rather than in the more technical sense of "1000 microseconds, plus or minus 500 microseconds." After I listened to enough of his explanations in this podcast, I learned to "translate" his "millisecond" to "just a few video frames", which at 60 frames per second would be perhaps 16 to 64 milliseconds, plus or minus some fuzz.
Gwin Ru
22nd July 2024, 18:26
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Have I missed something?…….x…… NIt couldn't have been the result of the first shot heard and Trump already had his hand over his right ear at the time of the second shot (https://youtu.be/mo1ZAQ8M2Fg?t=73)... all these are constraints as to which element to seriously take into consideration.
Then, one has to explain the staggering sequence of chains of incompetence before, during and after and which are getting a majority of people lost in the mazes of smoke and mirrors which all point to a single blanket statement: It was allowed to happen.
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