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apollobeatz
14th August 2024, 04:15
Hi to everyone! It's great to be on this forum! My name is Anatoly, from Russia.
I think the most here heard at least one time about the Younger Dryas Hypothesis and the comet impact that happened 12,800 years ago!
Some saw may be Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson talking about these events, while the academic science already tries to refute this hypothesis.
Well, at least none argues about the existence of the Younger Dryas Boundary (YDB) that dates back to 12+ thousand years.
So the facts are there that something big happened to our planet back then, and not that far ago, in planetary scale!
We already know some more facts that can be dated roughly at the same time: Extinction of mammoths, end of the Ice age, rapid climb in temperature by about +10 celsius in Greenland, and the flooding of the mythical Atlantis... Are they somehow related to eachother?
The answer is YES! And that is only a small part of the whole picture!
You see, we in Russia got many respected researchers that go their own way, not known to the west and western public in general.
And if you combine their knowledge together with western Younger Dryas Hypothesis you can get the whole picture of what had happened there.
I added to the whole picture my own discovery and research and best possible precision. And believe me, I know something about precision,
as I lived and grew up in Germany for 15 years. Furthermore I will bring up new theories, and cast doubt on existing ones, with what I will face heavy resistance in the west, and in Russia aswell, as the official academic science is mostly the same here and there, and that community won't agree that it made some mistakes in the past, and continues to do so.
But if you want to look on the whole and clear picture of the events that were caused all together by one sudden strike, I made a whole one hour long video,
I worked on for 2 years!
I gotta say sorry for not having a proper english version of it, as my spoken English is way to bad to make it by myself, but I did my best with the proper subs.
So you can watch the video with translated subs into your language, that will be up to 90% accurate.
If someone will want to voice over it in english or any other language, you can contact me for a clean version without my russian voice over.
Hope you will enjoy watching!
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mod note: scroll down to post #6 for instructions to enable auto translate in your preferred language for this video, Thank you jaybee:shooting star:
apollobeatz
14th August 2024, 04:25
As I am about to stay on this awesome forum and discuss this topic (and join other ones), here is a short summery of what you will see in my video:
The reason all these events happened is a pole shift, or to be more precise, earth's crust displacement by 15 degrees, that was caused by a massive impact 12 thousand years ago. And everything is there, the evidence for the catastrophic pole shift, and the massive impact crater that could cause all that, and even better, it is just in plain sight! But the (not entirely) wrong theory of Alfred Wegener with his continental drift and explanation of the origin of the Himalayas are in the way to see and explain the real thing that happened there.
Furthermore, I come to the conclusion that the Earth is actually expanding/growing! And there is for a long time already a nice theory by an russian scientist, to give the mechanisms needed for this model to work and be proved! His model gets more and more proves with time. In his model all the water on our planet comes out of the bowels of the earth, but not only that. The Earth's core is not only out of iron, but also includes Hydrogen which it releases by the time! And so, we get not only water out of the depths of the Earth but also resources like oil and gas, which include Hydrogen, and in his model got nothing to do with ancient fossils! And by all of that process connected with release of Hydrogen out of the inner core, the Earth gets it's expansion, spreading of the ocean's floor etc.!
Harmony
14th August 2024, 06:19
A warm welcome to the forum Anatoly, :sun: I look forward to watchig your video. :stars:
Johnnycomelately
14th August 2024, 08:04
Wow, mate. You set a high bar for yourself. Good luck.
Plus, I would love to hear those stories.
Cheers.
apollobeatz
14th August 2024, 08:08
Thank you very much! Glad to be here with you!
As it will be not obvious, and many questions may arise, I would like to introduce myself, and give some more info about me and that video!
Actually I was born to a science family, but am a professional audio engineer now, recording singers in my home studio! Beside that, I do some music aswell, and wrote 3 tracks for that video-presentation!
The whole rest of the video was made all by myself in 2 years without any help, including 3D-modeling and animation. No one paid me for that, and I still got not a single cent for making last 2 videos on this subject!
It's all done in the name of God and science. For me spirituality and believes in God stand on the first place, and then the love for science and God's creation and Mother nature. So far, that is the result I share with you!
If it was an other science forum I wouldn't introduce me that way or anyway! I am here on the side of science, and on the side of believers in God and spirituality, both of them. As for me, they can and do go together and complement eachother, but that's not clear to everyone in our modern society.
I will talk just about science next in this topic, and spirituality in other.
jaybee
14th August 2024, 08:26
I gotta say sorry for not having a proper english version of it, as my spoken English is way to bad to make it by myself, but I did my best with the proper subs.
So you can watch the video with translated subs into your language, that will be up to 90% accurate.
{see Opening Post for video}
Thanks and welcome... I will watch your video later or tomorrow....
Just to go through what I did to get the English subtitles up, in case it's useful for anyone...
1. turn subtitles on - (click little white square on bottom tab) a red line comes on underneath...
2.click on 'settings' (little wheel on bottom tab..)
3.click on subtitles - goes to a list -
4. click on 'auto translate' - list of languages - click on one wanted...
By the way I love the sound of the Russian Language but I don't understand any of it :)
:thumbsup:
apollobeatz
14th August 2024, 11:19
May be half of my video is in many ways the same as the incredible book "Pole Shift that sank Atlantis", by John Gagnon and Derek Cromie, that I am reading right now, that was released back in 2014.
I found the free PDF of it on the net last week here: https://zlibrary.to/dl/the-pole-shift-that-sank-atlantis-message-from-the-ancients
But actually I didn't know about it at all, and learned about things like Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis just about 2 years ago, after releasing my first video.
What led me to this point is the discovery I did back in 2016, what I believe is an immense crater of a comet impact striked China that caused all the deformation of the Eurasian plate! What is believed to be a consequence of India colliding with Eurasia in official point of view! After that I started digging, made the first video, and now the second, where I see such things like the earth's crust displacement as a proved thing with so much evidence by the end of the ice age you simply can't ignore!
And of course, I see that this theory of A. Wegerner that India collided with Eurasia to form the Himalayas doesn't add up at all. Yes, there are tectonic plates, there is ocean spreading, but it's not quite that as said in the theory of Continental Drift, that the pates just move chaotically in all kind of directions during time. Many things do not add up here, and many arguments can be brought to cast a shadow on this.
So the main discussion subjects are: 1 - The unusual impact crater in China under the Taklamakan desert, 2 - Earth's crust displacement that followed and ended the ice age, 3 - The floodings all over the world, that wiped out the mammoths, caused the permafrost regions, and sank civilisations like Atlantis... 4 - Expanding Earth, and the mechanisms that drive it
For the hypothesis of possible crater in China there is an article by a german researcher of impact structures: https://www.impact-structures.com/2020/09/to-play-with-google-earth/
Orph
14th August 2024, 13:49
I followed jaybee's instructions above to get the English translation. (Thank you jaybee). But at normal speed it was going too fast to keep up with reading the subtitles. So I slowed the video speed down to .5, turned the sound down a bit which made it a lot easier to follow along.
Just mentioning this in case anyone else may wish to do the same.
Welcome to the forum apollobeatz.
apollobeatz
14th August 2024, 15:54
Yeah I was talking fast ;) Even russians said I was too fast with all the information there to follow! Well, yea, that might be the case, but I hope that someone who is interested in our history and that theory will watch it may be twice or with using the pause option where it's needed. I hoped to do a video where people don't get asleep as it's the case with many other science videos on YouTube :laughs: But I am sorry that it doesn't fit for you all with the subs! The main thing is to get the idea, but in detail we can dive right in that discussion if you want!
Orph
14th August 2024, 17:01
Apollobeatz, I didn't mean to make it sound as if I was being critical of the video. I think it's fine just the way it is. I actually prefer the speed at which you talk. In fact, for most videos I watch I have to speed up the video to 1.5, or even faster because the people talk too slow. Please don't change the way you make videos.
It's just that for reading purposes, I have to slow it down a bit.
:thumbsup: :yo:
shaberon
14th August 2024, 20:40
Hi and welcome,
you've chosen a tough course.
The most difficult part is the origin of the hypothesis on Younger Dryas Impact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas_impact_hypothesis):
The idea that a comet struck North America at the end of the last ice age was first proposed as a speculative premise by the American congressman and pseudohistorian Ignatius Donnelly in 1883, who suggested it formed the Great Lakes and caused a sudden extreme cold period, which devastated animal and human populations.
There are heaps of studies refuting all of its points, such as "Greenland nanodiamonds". I won't go through all of this, but, it does not appear that any impact is a satisfactory, wholistic answer.
But on the other hand, you also questioned Tectonic Plate Drift, and...even though this did not originate in fiction, there is also not much evidence, and certainly no direct observation of this happening.
What perhaps is more likely is that the "plates" are "pegs", that move up and down like the keys of a piano.
Whereas Poseidonis "sunk", Dwarka sunk twice.
The Ice Age is intriguing. There is not any dispute that about 12,900-12,800 years ago, there was an unusually cold period, slightly before the ice began to melt down to the conditions we see today.
There are only a few things that appear consistent about this. First of all, compared to anywhere else at the time, Central Asia was a vast inland paradise. Secondly, the Horse did not do very well in this epoch, and is found domesticated first in the Botai or Kazakh region ca. 5,500 B. C. E. as a milk animal. These are still "wild" horses with bristled manes--it was "bred" around the same time, ca. 2,200 B. C. E., by both the Yamnaya and Nabathean cultures, which eventually completed the terrific reduction of wild horses.
So, in terms of the human story, I would say that horseless central Asians were extremely significant towards the beginning of civilization, but I would hesitate to say that "cataclysms" can be found. Least of all, I don't think they have been carried as "racial memory". In fact, if we look at the latest one that almost certainly *did* happen, to Santorini/Crete, and try to find this in human records...good luck on that. Similarly, Black Sea Deluge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis) is a hypothesis with more contrary points than support. So there is not much on "flooding".
Yes, the overall sea level rose by about 120m, over hundreds of years, however one of the most important players appears to be the jet stream and convection currents that determine rainfall. After the Ice Age, they left the Gobi and Taklamakan regions; in the latter, the steady disintegration of habitable areas lasted until about the year 600, leaving a tiny few oases, making this link of the Silk Road far less attractive.
I am a terrible skeptic, not easily convinced about anything, and a large part of what that comes down to is that a Biblical Flood with Noah never happened.
When we find solid evidence, then of course that should be used. Relevant to these times, what has been traced is that Indians left Central Asia right around the Younger Dryas--and more bewilderingly, Native Americans came from there about 20,000 years ago. That means that both the Americans and Indians are both relatively recent cousins of Europeans, and it is not for thousands of years after these waves that there is admixture of oriental or other DNA.
apollobeatz
15th August 2024, 13:49
Thank you!
Yes, I will agree on that is a tough course! But I might be already over the toughest part in that tough course, may be, with getting to the point where I am right now.
The modern Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis is based on the YD-boundary layer found in 2007. And no one can refute this fact. That we got the same like layer as the K-T (K-Pg) layer referred to the extinction of dinosaurs, but that dates to 12 thousand years!
For me, that's basically the only evidence that I take from that hypothesis, I didn't know before 2 years ago. I started to build my own hypothesis/theory, how you like, after my own discovery of the impact crater in China under the desert Taklamakan. For long I felt like I was alone in the whole world while working on my material and diggin deeper. And I came to the conclusion that this impact happened 12 thousand years ago, without any knowledge of the YD-boundary layer! And you can laugh about how I did it! As it looks like kinda stupid and non-scientific! Just by looking on the Himalayas, which I am sure about their origin is directly connected to the gigantic comet impact into Eurasia. Almost the same tells us academic science with India colliding into Eurasia to form the Himalayas and other deformations of Eurasia. So, by looking at the Himalaya range I found the mountains fresh looking with their sharp edges and peaks! You can have a laugh here, but wouldn't they erode over millions of years? Official science knows about the weathering process, but they tell us, that the Himalayas are still rising, by about 1 cm a year, and to the same time they erode by almost the same 1 cm / year. OK! let's assume that it is so! But there is no way that they will keep it's sharpness over millions and tens of millions of years!!!
Do some simple math by yourself with the erosion of 1 cm per year! Over just one million of years, that will mean 10 kilometers of erosion, and the highest mountain on Earth would be gone, completely! But okay, it's in no way possible that it will disappear completely, but over tens of millions of years the mount Everest would become a hill-shaped (round top) mountain for sure, and with it all the other mountains in the Himalayas range. So these official numbers together with the age of the Himalayas make no sense! If the Tibetan plateau is also rising by 1 cm a year, that would be already over 500 km into the space! As the Himalayas are dated to 50+ millions of years. But it's about 5 km above sea level in real life. Did the 495 kilometers of it just erode? That makes no sense. The same non-sense I saw with the official theory of India colliding with Eurasia to form the round shaped Hamalaya range, not into Eurasia, but sticking out on India, with it's almost unison height stretched all over 2,500 km of it's length!
So that is how I came to the conclusion that this impact may have been just about 12 thousand years ago! That's how it started, that simple, and now I see and know much more about it!
You see, my hypothesis/theory isn't based on the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis at all! I just found out that there are people that dig in the same direction, 2 years ago, and they search for the crater that I found back in 2016. Well, I am even not the first to hypothesise that Taklamakan desert could be a location of an asteroid impact. But I discovered (to myself back then) that it very well formed all the deformation of the Eurasian plate, and the Taklamakan desert itself, that can't be explained by the collision of India and Eurasia! I saw how all the earth masses moved after the comet impact to form exactly what we see today! And India has nothing to do with this at all in my view!
Till today I am pretty sure that this hypothesised impact crater can be proved in just few years, if there will be the will and action with some people and official science working together. They got the access to the super-computers to simulate the impact into Eurasia, and they can get permission of Chinese government and foundings to take samples in the Taklamakan region in search for impact rocks and more evidence.
But as I see, the earth's crust shift by 15 degrees, that fit's to the trajectory of the comet impact into Taklamakan, can be seen as good as a proved one, for having a lot of evidence I will bring later in this topic.
Ah, almost forgot to reply on that, the floodings I talk about, that were caused by the impact and the following earth's crust displacement, I do not refer to the biblical one. I do not use the Bible as an argument of my hypothesis/theory. But why not bringing some nice additions to the whole picture in form of legends, oral or written ones like with the Plato's Atlantis. They are interesting in that case, as there were humans all over the continents that experienced that catastrophe! That was not the case with the extinction of dinosaurs 65 millions years ago, so we have to stick only to the scientific facts, but 12 thousand years ago we can, and should have a look at least on these additions we can get with Indian legends and Plato's works.
DNA
15th August 2024, 19:22
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This Randolph Winters series is the best single source of information I've gotten for Billy, it has to do with his detailed explanation of the Younger-Dryass theory..
In it Randolph states that according to Billy
- A huge hit for me. 🔥
That the destruction of Atlantis was caused by the losing side in an act of revenge going out in orbit and dragging a asteroid into earth orbit and flinging it at their adversaries.
This being Mu vs Atlantis and the asteroid being flung at Atlantis.
Meier gives the date im pretty sure was 10,700 B.C.
The date matters.
Meier states this is what happened to the Megafauna.
Meier first stated this in 78', it was repeated in this Randolph Winters video series in 95'.
The younger dryass theory didn't come out till 03".
Even then the younger dryass wasn't accepted until the finding of the impact crater in like 2020 under the greenland Hiawatha glacier.
And the time of impact given to that asteroid impact was around 100-200 years different than the Meier date.
Meier beat everyone on this.
He bested the entire field of Anthropology.
He bested the entire field of geology.
He bested evolutionary biologists.
Not just a generations worth but about 200 years worth of cross speciality scientists got their asses handed to them by a one armed security guard in Switzerland.
Billy Meier being a UFO contactee.
Allegedly speaking to Nordic human looking beings from another part of the Universe.
Baby Steps
19th August 2024, 12:57
Thanks for starting this discussion.
What piques the interest is that there are many elements to this story that all have one thing in common - within Academia and the mainstream media there appears to be organized obfuscation of these various elements. If you mention Atlantis to an Archaeologist, its not that the poo poo it - its that they give you that look - its the same look you get if you are exhibiting behaviours associated with mental illness.
Yet the accumulation of data and evidence continues like a tsunami.
So many elements:
- We are now seeing pictures of the totally different way of stone building all over the globe, these are irregularly shaped large rocks that fit together to very tiny tolerances, producing extremely durable and earthquake resistant structures.
- Lots of articles from North America describing and picturing giant skeletons >7ft, most of the physical evidence then disappears
- Paracas skulls, stories of the red haired giants. Referenced in the Bible, and north american native folklore among others
- Depictions of unusually large humans in ancient carvings etc in Egypt and Sumeria, these are the rulers or gods
- Flood legends exist in most ancient writings
- The oldest constructions so far dated, such as Golbekle Tepe, that were subsequently Buried (why?)
- There is no clear evidence connecting the Great Pyramid to the Ancient Egyptian civilisation
- Evidence of use of stone cutting technology superior to the best we have today. Check out the drill holes
- The Piri Reis Map
- Evidence for catastrophic flows of melt water about 12,000 years ago
- The Sphynx was probably a big cat, with the head re-carved much later as a King, but the proportions look wrong.
- The Sphynx has physical evidence of being partially inundated
- These ancient structures in Egypt cannot be accurately dated, and could be much older than the orthodoxy we are fed.
- Graham Hancock has uncovered very impressive evidence of ancient structures around the globe including underwater
- A friend once told me that the plains of Arkansas are strewn with ancient carved stone columns and other structures, suggesting another ancient civilisation there
- Huge rocks being moved - up to 1,000 tonnes, but no idea of how
- No archaeological evidence for the kind of tools that could work super hard rock like granite into such accurate shapes. Copper tools seem to be inadequate.
It all points to a global pre flood civilisation as Hancock states, and in a normal world this area of research would be a great adventure and explosion of knowledge & research, however what we are seeing is an inexplicable level of suppression. Where is the harm in this?
There must be something in this material that threatens the current planetary managers.
Could this be:
a) Its not convenient for us to realise that there have been other humanoids on earth that do not fit the progression of the fossil evidence and who's DNA is very different. Are we being genetically manipulated?
b) Its not convenient for us to realise that there WERE previous technologies, maybe sound based or crystal based that gave our forbears amazing capabilities. Would this tech break our current control structures?
I have pondered how it is that civilizations can regress and seemingly lose technologies. It seems nuts. Why throw away such precious assets? Maybe what happens is that when the darkside gain control of a society, they rapidly demonise any technology that they cannot control or exploit. Maybe these capabilities make those societies more resistant to control. So they get destroyed or hidden.
A more modern example might be the Herbalism, spiritual gifts, midwifery capabilities of the 'wise women', or witches. Their wisdom challenged the church, and the Church's control of the masses. So they got bloodily suppressed. This is awful, but in that process untold knowledge was lost to us.
We regressed. But it will be rediscovered.
Mari
19th August 2024, 19:02
It all points to a global pre flood civilisation as Hancock states, and in a normal world this area of research would be a great adventure and explosion of knowledge & research, however what we are seeing is an inexplicable level of suppression. Where is the harm in this?
There must be something in this material that threatens the current planetary managers.
Could this be:
a) Its not convenient for us to realise that there have been other humanoids on earth that do not fit the progression of the fossil evidence and who's DNA is very different. Are we being genetically manipulated?
b) Its not convenient for us to realise that there WERE previous technologies, maybe sound based or crystal based that gave our forbears amazing capabilities. Would this tech break our current control structures?
I have pondered how it is that civilizations can regress and seemingly lose technologies. It seems nuts. Why throw away such precious assets? Maybe what happens is that when the darkside gain control of a society, they rapidly demonise any technology that they cannot control or exploit. Maybe these capabilities make those societies more resistant to control. So they get destroyed or hidden.
A more modern example might be the Herbalism, spiritual gifts, midwifery capabilities of the 'wise women', or witches. Their wisdom challenged the church, and the Church's control of the masses. So they got bloodily suppressed. This is awful, but in that process untold knowledge was lost to us.
We regressed. But it will be rediscovered.
a) and b) 100% correct. And yes - all will be rediscovered.
onawah
19th August 2024, 20:28
Welcome to Project Avalon, Anatoly.
If you have not already seen it, you may find the information on this thread to be of interest, starting here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1302710&viewfull=1#post1302710
apollobeatz
25th September 2024, 21:56
Welcome to Project Avalon, Anatoly.
If you have not already seen it, you may find the information on this thread to be of interest, starting here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1302710&viewfull=1#post1302710
Well that could be the case for the rest of the ice ages, as we had em, according to the academics, 5 or 6 times in history... But in case of the last ice age, and the date of 12 thousand years, my claim is that it was purely up to an gigantic comet strike and the following earth's crust shift, that explains many things we know. Including the extinction of mammoths, the permafrost regions, sinking of the Atlantis and so on... Beside that, I go in detail with the wrong theory of the formation of the Himalayas! They were not formed, like academics say, with the collision of India into Eurasia - that is just impossible with the real resulting form of the Himalaya belt we see on the globe. I claim the Himalayas were formed 12 thousand years ago, the same as the Mariana Tench and the lake Baikal, due to a gigantic comet impact into Eurasia (and now China). The latest datings of the lake Baikal, by official russian scientists show results that it can be just around 8 thousand years old, and with it the theory of Alfred Wegener starts already to crumble, as he claimed all the deformations of Eurasia, including the resulting lake Baikal, were formed by the collision of India into it. And thus geologists claim, that lake Baikal may be 25-35 millions of years old, what is totally wrong!
So I focus just on the events happened 12 thousand years ago, and that looks to me very obvious was an earth's crust shift! For which we got even proof today as I see it. I will show it in a new next post.
May the magnetic poles switch caused deglaciation and ice ages? May be, but what happened 12 thousand years ago has a different print and history, in my view, we should and could restore within a few years if we want.
apollobeatz
26th September 2024, 01:27
So the following 2018 article and study is like the last missing scientific proof for the theory of earth's crust shift 12 thousand years ago! Well at least for me... I dunno how much more evidence is needed to take this theory seriously.
If the old geographical north pole was in Greenland, then the old south pole and it's polar circle were way more to the east of Antarctica! (See my 3D-Render)
https://i.ibb.co/X3Hp026/Pole-Shift-South0120.jpg (https://ibb.co/F0pJZxc)
Now here's that article that claims that west Antarctica was free of ice 10 to 12 thousand years ago!
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-climate-change
Quote 1: Scientists have discovered that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet underwent a major retreat between 10,000 and 12,000 years ago, at a time when the world was actually cooler than it is today.
Quote 2: Torsten Albrecht of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany estimated that the retreat happened 10 to 12 thousand years ago.
Still, academic science talks about the temperature rise all over the world 12 thousand years back... but how's that? Did they really gather that evidence all over the planet? NO! It was mainly up to the ice probes they took in Greenland, that showed the abrupt +10 degrees Celsius increase 12 thousand years ago... Where are the evidences of the same increase from all other continents??? Can they show us?
With the earth's crust shift we got regions that became abruptly warmer, and regions that got colder, no major changes in climate, just a pole shift.... That is exactly what happened there. And the dead mammoths tell us the same, that Siberia was prior to that catastrophe way more south then today, as there were plants found in their stomach, that grow in warmer regions, not where the dead body was found and excavated from permafrost...
When academic science would agree it was not an overall abrupt increase in temperature all over the world, but a partial increase, and partial decrease... then we would have a free way to consider the earth's crust shift as an obvious end for the last ice age.
onawah
26th September 2024, 03:04
I think if you watch SuspicousObservers' playlists and movies (a new one is in the works now that will include all the most current data), you may find that there is ample evidence which refutes your theory, and there is a fair amount of discussion about that from various angles on the thread entitled "Geomagnetic Reversals and Ice Ages".
Although that is just one of the threads on which that information has been discussed at length, and there has come to be a lot of general agreement on the forum from those who have focused on the subject over the years, including that of Bill Ryan's.
Not that comets don't cause damage, of course, but the explanation and conclusions drawn resulting from data collated and corroborated regarding the regular solar cycles, resulting in geomagnetic pole reversal, crustal migration and micronovas is much more inclusive and conclusive, including evidence that it is not just Earth which is affected but all the planets in the solar system and beyond.
Welcome to Project Avalon, Anatoly.
If you have not already seen it, you may find the information on this thread to be of interest, starting here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1302710&viewfull=1#post1302710
Well that could be the case for the rest of the ice ages, as we had em, according to the academics, 5 or 6 times in history... But in case of the last ice age, and the date of 12 thousand years, my claim is that it was purely up to an gigantic comet strike and the following earth's crust shift, that explains many things we know. Including the extinction of mammoths, the permafrost regions, sinking of the Atlantis and so on... Beside that, I go in detail with the wrong theory of the formation of the Himalayas! They were not formed, like academics say, with the collision of India into Eurasia - that is just impossible with the real resulting form of the Himalaya belt we see on the globe. I claim the Himalayas were formed 12 thousand years ago, the same as the Mariana Tench and the lake Baikal, due to a gigantic comet impact into Eurasia (and now China). The latest datings of the lake Baikal, by official russian scientists show results that it can be just around 8 thousand years old, and with it the theory of Alfred Wegener starts already to crumble, as he claimed all the deformations of Eurasia, including the resulting lake Baikal, were formed by the collision of India into it. And thus geologists claim, that lake Baikal may be 25-35 millions of years old, what is totally wrong!
So I focus just on the events happened 12 thousand years ago, and that looks to me very obvious was an earth's crust shift! For which we got even proof today as I see it. I will show it in a new next post.
May the magnetic poles switch caused deglaciation and ice ages? May be, but what happened 12 thousand years ago has a different print and history, in my view, we should and could restore within a few years if we want.
apollobeatz
26th September 2024, 04:27
Well, the geomagnetic pole reversal wouldn't cause the YD-Boundary layer (YDB) found 2007, that dates back to 12 thousand years, would it? What you think?
It wouldn't cause the deserts to appear out of nowhere, like Sahara, Arabian desert and Taklamakan...
Some floodings all over the place it could do, here I will agree with you, but surely not with the things above.
Again, if it turns out that the Himalayas are just about 12 thousand years old, like the newest datings of the lake Baikal, then my theory turns out to be right, in regard of the events that happened 12 thousand years ago!
In other cases and dates in history, your research might be the most accurate.
onawah
26th September 2024, 06:16
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Well, the geomagnetic pole reversal wouldn't cause the YD-Boundary layer (YDB) found 2007, that dates back to 12 thousand years, would it? What you think?
It wouldn't cause the deserts to appear out of nowhere, like Sahara, Arabian desert and Taklamakan...
Some floodings all over the place it could do, here I will agree with you, but surely not with the things above.
Again, if it turns out that the Himalayas are just about 12 thousand years old, like the newest datings of the lake Baikal, then my theory turns out to be right, in regard of the events that happened 12 thousand years ago!
In other cases and dates in history, your research might be the most accurate.
apollobeatz
26th September 2024, 07:18
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That looks somewhat confusing to me, as I get all these links but no quick answer here. If we want a discussion here, please clarify your point of view for me and all. Your point is that 12 thousand years ago, it was only the geomagnetic pole reversal that ended the ice age? It was no comet event, but with all the resulting consequences we know and talk about in this topic of discussion, right? All that happened due to a geomagnetic pole reversal, including the earth's crust shift, did I understand you right?
If so, I still got my research about the Himalayas, the deformation of Eurasia, lake Baikal, the Mariana Trench, the biggest deserts on our planet, that all together I date to 12 thousand years! Sure, that goes against the academic datings, except the newest dating of the lake Baikal, but I got some arguments, about Wegerner's continental drift theory being (not entirely) wrong, which is used for these datings, specially with the India collision, which is the most obvious and impossible thing. Later in topic I would like to discuss the precise GPS satellite data we got on this, that India like all other continents still move in their directions and so on... Sure, there is movement, on a solid Earth with continental drift, and on an expanding Earth with its expansion, so what model will be more precise for that? You see, math is so universal, that it works almost on any model, by ignoring a few things, if they are already known. So the math worked just fine on a geocentric model back then, and was same precise as today with the heliocentric model, but one model was wrong, and didn't explain all the things we discovered with time.
And I would discuss and doubt "NASA's" proof that the Earth isn't expanding - https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasa-research-confirms-its-a-small-world-after-all/
That whole research has actually nothing to do with NASA, but one chinese professor out of a Californian University who led his group of a few people, to process various satellite data, including GPS ones. And their official result contains very suspicious results that indicate that there went something wrong. I saw their officially published papers by myself, and listened to other scientists debunking it.
Yea, I go the hard way, against many things that science presents to us as verified and granted. But there are also many ways to get some minor proves here and there, that will change our view on our planet.
Still, where does the YDB-layer come from, if not an asteroid/comet impact on Earth 12 thousand years ago? ))
onawah
26th September 2024, 17:37
As stated, comet impacts also occur, of course, and cause great damage but don't fully explain all the damage that the micronova events create.
And as stated, best to direct your questions to Ben Davidson or just watch the playlists on his youtube channel, which are quite thorough.
shaberon
26th September 2024, 19:22
This is kind of all over the place. I am having a hard time following it.
I am going to try to extract some points. The reason is that post-Ice Age, there is more ability to track migrations and the onset of human works. It is relevant and informative to the shape of today. In the other direction, pre-Ice Age, nothing really.
"Younger Dryas" refers to a period of about a 1,000 years, when the Ice Age had been vanishing, but, then, particularly in the northern hemisphere, temperatures dropped abruptly.
Here are things that have been aimed at this time:
the Himalayas, the deformation of Eurasia, lake Baikal, the Mariana Trench, the biggest deserts on our planet, that all together I date to 12 thousand years!
Still, where does the YDB-layer come from, if not an asteroid/comet impact on Earth 12 thousand years ago? ))
1 - The unusual impact crater in China under the Taklamakan desert, 2 - Earth's crust displacement that followed and ended the ice age, 3 - The floodings all over the world, that wiped out the mammoths, caused the permafrost regions, and sank civilisations like Atlantis...
A "pole reversal" is another contender.
All of this is based on Tectonic Plate Drift.
Because I question plate drift, then, I would have to parse out how any of these phenomena may be possible.
It tends to be a lot of work for one thing at a time. This is difficult.
onawah
26th September 2024, 20:56
It's the planet's magnetic field that holds the plates in place, but during the 12,000 year solar cycle the poles reverse and the magnetic field diminishes to the point where the plates finally move very abruptly, so huge tsunamis are the result, lots of space dust and debris fall to Earth, and areas which were once arctic become warm and vice versa.
"Fire from the Sky" spoken of in various prophecies and records is from the recurring micronovas, part of the same cycle.
Once again, I advise watching the playlists on the SuspiciousObservers site, which are quite thorough. See:
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