Wietrzychowice Poland Burial mounds from 4000 BC

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Wietrzychowice_groby_megalityczne_%286%29.jpg

A group of megalithic tombs called Polish Pyramids or Kuyavian Pyramids have been found in the adjacent forest. They are elongated mounds with a length of up to 150 metres (490 ft) and a height of 2–3 metres (7–10 ft), probably belonging to Funnelbeaker culture, 4000 years BC

More info HERE - https://medievalheritage.eu/en/main-page/heritage/poland/wietrzychowice-long-barrows/

[Rawhide68]

Wow that's amazing!
Whats a "Funnelbeaker culture" ? never heard about that before?

[shaberon]

Whats a "Funnelbeaker culture" ? never heard about that before?



It is an antecedent of Corded Ware culture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture):


c. 3000 BC – c. 2350 BC


which is notable due to its distribution across most of north Europe and western Russia, and was thought to be the crucible of Ur speak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_homeland).

Most archeological sites are simply named for a style of pottery, or graves, so it is nearly impossible to say anything about the languages. What I am finding is that recent genetic studies give much clearer information about "who is who". This is a bit weird, in the sense that no previously human-told story appears to be true.

For example, in their genetics:


Corded Ware culture samples were primarily from haplgroup R1a.


But those are very junior samples from:


...a split between the Indian and Caucasus/European R1a lineages occurring about 16,500 years ago.


That does not explain Indian origin, because on the maternal side:


The overall frequency of U2 in South Asia is largely accounted for by the group U2i in India whereas haplogroup U2e, common in Europe, is rare; given that these lineages diverged approximately 50,000-years-ago.

Then you will notice the closest thing to "ancient Sumerian genetics" is U4a2b, i. e. a late, minor split compared to the U4a1 of Corded Ware and Catacomb cultures, probably branched from:

U4a2a: found in Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Germany, Scandinavia, Iran (Qashqai) and Central Asia (Kyrgyzstan)



R1a is not found in ancient west Europe.

R1b is characteristic of Yamnaya culture, which shows a late, minor infusion to Corded Ware populations. The likely Corded Ware offshoot carrying R1a is Sintashta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture) slightly east of the Urals ca. 2,200 B. C. E.--and we can easily see where this goes:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Map_of_Mongolia_%28Early_Iron_Age%29.png/800px-Map_of_Mongolia_%28Early_Iron_Age%29.png




To describe India, it has certain R1a, and rare selections of mt U. The interesting story will probably be found in the travels of U4 (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U4_mtDNA.shtml)--if you look at that link, where do you find it accumulates in Europe, Poland and the Baltics.

So most likely in Asia, there were two competitive bands, one of the Sintashta mainly to the north, and the Yamnaya which entered Bactria. The two groups appear superficially similar, but they are really different, and have a lot to do with ensuing political developments. Such as Indians *are* derived from Sintashta, *not* Yamnaya. That is to say, around 2,000 B. C. E., the small bubble called Sintashta began trading with the massive civilization of India.


There are some surprising correlations between India, and, particularly northern Europeans. In the milder form of linguistic evidence, here is what we have for "swim":


Sanskrit: प्लवते (plavate)
Old Church Slavonic: плавати (plavati)
Slovene: plávati
Ukrainian: пла́вати (plávaty)
Russian: пла́вать (plávatʹ)
Old Polish: pławać, spławiać
Slovak: plávať


to which we might add Pali:

plavati : (plav + a) floats; moves quickly; swims.


So, when we take modern Poland as a Catholic country with a form of racism against eastern Slavs, I would say something has gone terribly wrong.