Riots Explode in Egypt As People Protest Against The Government!!!

[AlkaMyst]

More than 90,000 Egyptians agreed on Facebook to turn out for a "day of revolution" to mark Police Day, a national holiday. Hundreds of thousands turned out for the protests around the country.

As reported here! (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/world/middleeast/26egypt.html?_r=1&src=twrhp)


3 Reported Dead as Egyptians Protest to End Mubarak’s Rule


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CAIRO — Thousands of people calling for the end of the 30-year rule of President Hosni Mubarak clashed with riot police officers here in the capital and in other Egyptian cities on Tuesday, on a day of some of the most serious civil unrest in recent memory.

Three people were reported killed, two protesters in the port town of Suez and a soldier who died of injuries sustained during the protests in Cairo.

The protesters, mobilized largely on the Internet and energized by recent events in Tunisia, occupied one of the city’s most famous squares for hours, beating back attempts to dislodge them by police officers wielding tear gas and water cannons.

“Freedom, freedom, freedom,” they chanted. “Where are the Egyptian people?”

Security officials said several thousand people demonstrated in Alexandria, and there were reports of large demonstrations in other cities, including Mansoura and Mahalla al-Kobra. There, a video posted on the Internet showed people tearing up a large portrait of Mr. Mubarak — an act whose boldness here is hard to overstate.

State television made no mention of the protests, and sporadically through the afternoon, cellphone networks were interrupted or unavailable.

There was no immediate count of arrests or injuries, but the clashes in Cairo left dozens of people bleeding in Tahrir Square, one of Cairo’s best-known settings, near the Egyptian Museum and a Ritz-Carlton Hotel under construction. Tourists gawked, and older protesters said they had never seen anything like the defiant demonstration.

Just blocks away, in sharp contrast, calm prevailed and traffic was light for Police Day, the national holiday the protesters co-opted for their campaign against the government.

Mohammed Ashraf, a 22-year-old law student, said the blood drenching his white sweater was that of a police officer. Like other protesters, he echoed the deep-seated frustrations of an enduring, repressive government that drove Tunisians to revolt: rampant corruption, injustice, high unemployment and the simple lack of dignity accorded them by the state.

“Our government is unjust,” Mr. Ashraf said. “I’m not happy. The state is very aggressive with people.”

At least six young Egyptians have set themselves on fire in recent weeks, in an imitation of the self-immolation that set off the Tunisian unrest. Egypt has forbidden gas stations to sell to people who are not in cars and placed security agents wielding fire extinguishers outside government offices.

Facebook and other social networking media played a large role in the Tunisian uprising, and seemed primed to play a role in Egypt as well. More than 90,000 people signed up on a Facebook page for the Tuesday protests, framed by the organizers as a stand against torture, poverty, corruption and unemployment. But the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s most powerful opposition movement, said it would not officially participate, though some of its members joined the protesters in Cairo.

A small demonstration began sometime after noon but quickly swelled, with hundreds marching through winding streets as security officers formed a moving cordon. Scuffles broke out as the officers tried to halt the march by linking arms and forming lines.

One woman was injured when the officers pushed protesters against a wall near an entrance ramp to a bridge over the Nile River. But the demonstrators quickly escaped the cordon and marched down the riverside corniche, snarling traffic.

By the mid-afternoon, groups of people had converged in Tahrir Square, where they met security forces in full riot gear and a water cannon truck. Several people said the clashes began in earnest after protesters jumped on the truck and tried to take control of the water cannon.

Thousands occupied the square, including young men who threw rocks at the police. Some in the security force stooped to pick up the rocks and hurl them back at the protesters.

The marchers included young people documenting the clashes with cellphone cameras and middle-aged people carrying flags of the Wafd party, one of Egypt’s opposition groups. A young doctor, Wissam Abdulaziz, said she had traveled two hours to join the protest. She said she had been to one protest before, after the police were accused of fatally beating a young man in Alexandria to death last year.

“I came to change the government,” she said. “I came to change the entire regime.”

Liam Stack and Dawlat Magdy contributed.


Here are a couple videos......



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WNTE_uqHqw&feature=player_embedded#t=58s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GC528nK8O2w

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

[witchy1]

Thanks Alk, these outbreaks seem to be gaining momentum - meaning people are waking up and reacting the best way they know how

[AlkaMyst]

You're welcome witchy1, I know what you mean but I have a funny feeling that this is just the beginning and that we are going to see stuff like this all year round, including the US.

PS
Anyone interested, you can go to http://www.wwwpropheticseercom.blogspot.com/ for a live stream show right now talking about the upcoming events regarding the New Madrid Faulk

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

[witchy1]

Hmmm, clearly they are preparing for a major earthquake with the govt requesting contracts for prepackaged food and blankets (to last 3 years) on another thread.

[AlkaMyst]

witchy1

Hmmm, clearly they are preparing for a major earthquake with the govt requesting contracts for prepackaged food and blankets (to last 3 years) on another thread.

I read that.....and they are also trying to buy up all the survival food from companies so we can't get any, they really want to get rid of us!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

[irishspirit]

Mubarak's defense minister bids for US backing in Washington

US (http://www.debka.com/search/tag/US/) http://www.debka.com/static/images/tag_arrow.gif http://www.debka.com/dynmedia/photos/2011/01/27/big/Tantawi_Mohamed_Hussein.jpg

Egyptian Defense Minister Field Marshal Mohamed Tantawi



Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has sent his defense minister Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi to Washington with an urgent request for US backing for his embattled regime against the street protest movement which gained in violence on its second day, Wednesday, Jan. 26. debkafile's Washington sources report that in secret meetings, the Egyptian defense minister put the situation before President Barack Obama and a row of top US political, military and intelligence officials. He warned them that by advocating a soft hand with the demonstrators and responsiveness to their demands, American officials were doing more harm than good. Without a crackdown, he said, the regime was doomed.


Tantawi also warned that the radical Muslim Brotherhood, which has stood aside from the opposition protests, was merely biding its time for the right moment to step in and take over. He asked the Obama administration for an urgent airlift of advanced riot control equipment.


The American response to the case presented by Tantawi is not known. Disclosure of his trip to Washington might well add fuel to the fires of disaffection burning in cities across Egypt. The protests are spearheaded by a youth opposition coalition whose members are proud of their Arab and Egyptian identity. Evidence of the regime's collaboration with a foreign power may well heighten their resolve to battle the regime and the million security services agents which Mubarak put on the streets Wednesday.


http://www.debka.com/article/20590/

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Reports of ‘massacre’ in Suez as protests in Egypt move into third day


Anti-government protests in Egypt moved into their third day early Thursday, with unconfirmed reports of police "massacres" of civilians in the port city of Suez.
In Cairo, protesters "played cat and mouse with police" into the early hours of Thursday, Reuters reported (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70O3UW20110127). Opposition groups reported on their websites that electronic communications had been cut off in the city center, and parts of the city were experiencing blackouts.


The official death toll stood at six over the first two days of protests, but social networks were abuzz with claims of police shooting at protesters, many of those reports focusing on the city of Suez, where protesters torched a government building on Wednesday.
"Security forces are committing heinous massacres and there is zero media coverage," read an update on the web page of Suez from Egyptian Association for Change - USA (http://www.facebook.com/eacusa), an opposition group that had joined the call (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/electrified-arab-world-revolt-egypt/) for an uprising starting on January 25.


"Government is trying to cover up what happened in city of Suez. Media banned from entry," read another update. "Reporters from Suez, Al Jazeerah, Dream and Al Mehwar were prohibited from entering Suez to enforce a media blackout on the subject."

Others reported on the web page that a curfew was placed on the city and police were using "live ammunition."


Yet another update asserted that communications and electricity in Suez had been completely cut off, something also asserted by the We Are All Khaled Said (http://www.facebook.com/elshaheeed.co.uk) protest group, which didn't report a "massacre" but did warn of an impending one.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/reports-massacre-suez-protests-egypt/

[irishspirit]

Yemeni protesters rally against long-time ruler

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Yemeni protesters inspired by recent events in Tunisia rallied in the streets of Sanaa on Thursday to call for the departure of President Ali Abdullah Saleh, who has been in power since 1978.
By News Wires (http://www.france24.com/en/category/tags-auteurs/news-wires) (text)

AFP - Thousands of Yemenis demonstrated in the capital on Thursday, calling on President Ali Abdullah Saleh to depart after being in power since 1978, AFP correspondents reported.
"Enough being in power for (over) 30 years," chanted protesters in demonstrations staged by the Common Forum opposition in four different locations in Sanaa.
They also referred to the ouster of Tunisian president Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, saying he was "gone in just (over) 20 years."
"No to extending (presidential tenure). No to bequeathing (the presidency)," they chanted, insisting that it was "time for change."

http://www.france24.com/en/20110127-yemen-protesters-take-streets-call-president-step-down-tunisia

[irishspirit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgTsASj2agc

[AlkaMyst]

irishspirit

Thanks for this info, much appreciated! :yo:

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

[jackovesk]

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NOBEL Peace Prize laureate and dissident leader Mohamed ElBaradei last night took to the front line of Egypt's fledgling democracy movement, as police beat his supporters, doused him with water cannon and trapped him inside a mosque in central Cairo.

The Egyptian capital was the scene of violent chaos, when tens of thousands of anti-government protesters stoned and confronted police, who fired back with rubber bullets, teargas and water cannons at the end of Friday prayers.

It was a major escalation in what was already the biggest challenge to authoritarian President Hosni Mubarak's 30-year rule.

On the fourth day of nationwide protests, police used batons to beat some of Dr ElBaradei's supporters, who surrounded him to protect him.

A soaked Dr ElBaradei, the former head of the UN Atomic Energy Agency who flew back to join the protests for the first time earlier yesterday, was trapped inside the al-Istiqama mosque in Giza while hundreds of riot police laid siege to it, firing teargas in the streets so no one could leave.

Groups of protesters, in their thousands, gathered at at least six Cairo venues, many marching towards major squares.

They are demanding Mr Mubarak's ouster and venting their rage at years of government neglect that has led to rampant poverty, unemployment and rising food prices.

There were clashes between thousands of demonstrators and police in the Mediterranean port city of Alexandria and Minya, south of Cairo. There were smaller protests in Assiut, south of Cairo, and al-Arish on the Sinai peninsula. Authorities cut most mobile phone and internet services in an attempt to thwart the growing protests, but the April 6 movement spearheading the demonstrations vowed to keep calling for street protests.

In the Mohandiseen district, at least 10,000 people were marching towards the city centre chanting "down, down with Mubarak". The crowd swelled to about 20,000 as they made their way through residential areas. At Ramsis Square, in the heart of the city, thousands clashed with police as they left the al-Nur mosque after prayers. Police used teargas and rubber bullets and some of the teargas was fired inside the mosque.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/nobel-peace-prize-winner-mohamed-elbaradei-spearheads-egypt-uprising/story-e6frg6so-1225996466724

[TheCougarandEagle]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6165

Alot of chaos happening.

John

[stomy]

Economy is the source of problems. Prepare to put food and water aside for a rainy day. believe strongly in creating a garden:)

[Arrowwind]

I had put this in Living off The Grid forum under Food and Water but will put it here too.


I listened to an NPR radio interview last night regarding Egypt and Tunesias riots over the past week.

The person being interviewed was one of the protestor coordinators in Egypt.

He said that the main reason for the protests had not only do do with tyranny, but due to the upward spiral of the cost of food and lack of availablity as well as unemployment.

He said the protestors were of all ages and soical classes. Families were bringing their children out into the streets to protest with them as the situation is so urgent..

In Egypt:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...438179651.html (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/03/2008525133438179651.html)

http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/...shortage_N.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2008-04-29-egypt-food-shortage_N.htm)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/baby...xport-ban.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2010/08/egypt-fears-of-a-crisis-after-russias-wheat-export-ban.html)

In Tunesia a few people set themselves on fire as a protest regarding the cost of food.

http://www.afrik-news.com/article18703.html (http://www.afrik-news.com/article18703.html)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41101655...east/n_africa/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41101655/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/)

Now, not to harp, but have you started your food storage plan yet?

[mondaze]

hyper inflation on the breadline just means starvation. you either watch your kids slowly starve to death or you stand up whilst you still can. prepare for this effect to grow exponentially. tunisian outcome represents hope. hope is addictive. send love to all these poor people.

[rosie]

Facebook can be for the people, if you know how to use it, as these students have.
I do believe they shutdown the internet a little too late, way too many people are now connected instantly, all it takes is one........


On Egypt's streets, Facebook protests spawn a mass revolt
The atmosphere in Cairo is tense: Anti-riot vans patrol the boulevards, armored trucks are parked near flashpoints and plain clothes officers are everywhere.

quote from article:
By Tuesday, over 90,000 people had signed up to the Facebook event. This time around it looks set to be much bigger. ‘One social media outlet rallying people to the street has 381,000 supporters at the last count,” says Hisham Kassem, a respected independent editor.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/on-egypt-s-streets-facebook-protests-spawn-a-mass-revolt-1.339800

[Heartsong]

From CNN
Egyptian protesters chant 'Freedom!'
By the CNN Wire Staff
January 28, 2011 -- Updated 2051 GMT (0451 HKT)

Cairo, Egypt (CNN) -- "Freedom!" the crowds chanted along the banks of the Nile River in Cairo after dark Friday, defying a curfew being enforced by troops with armored personnel carriers and tear gas.

The demonstrators had been out on the street all day, not just in the capital, but in Alexandria and Suez as well, prompting President Hosni Mubarak to send troops out onto the streets for the first time in a generation.

The demonstrators surrounded a military vehicle, even climbing on top of it -- and the military did not respond.

But when the protesters circled the Ministry of Information, they were greeted by police, who responded with sharp cracks of gunfire.

It's not clear whether police shot at protesters or into the air, whether their bullets were rubber or steel, whether anyone was wounded or killed.

As the night wore on, however, police appeared to retreat to their stations, leaving the streets to the military.

In both Cairo and Alexandria, protesters greeted the troops with embraces and cheers. Demonstrators shook hands with soldiers, members of an army that is widely respected in Egypt.

The army isn't the only side exercising restraint.

The Muslim Brotherhood sent its followers onto the streets after Friday prayers, the first time Egypt's large and venerable -- but illegal -- Islamic opposition called for protest during this round of demonstrations.

And when younger Muslim Brotherhood protesters seemed ready to hurl rocks at the police in Alexandria, Egypt's second-largest city, older men put their arms around the shoulders of the hotheads, calming them down.

Four days into unprecedented protests that have shaken Egypt, both sides seem to be holding back from the brink. How long that restraint last may determine the course of Egypt's future.

CNN's Ben Wedeman in Cairo and Nic Robertson in Alexandria contributed to this report.
(Emphasis mine - Heartsong)

[Shairia]

The demonstrators had been out on the street all day, not just in the capital, but in Alexandria and Suez as well, prompting President Hosni Mubarak to send troops out onto the streets for the first time in a generation.


This is not true, when I was there in the mid 80's to early 90's there were several times troops were called onto the streets. The first time was when the luxury hotels were burned to the ground in Giza and martial law was declared. Tanks rolled down the streets and curfews were in place. The rioting at that time was by mandatory military recruits who were literally starving to death on the wages they received to live on. The second time was about 18 months later when heavy protesting about Mubarek's absense from his troubled country were taking place during elections of minor offices at which the president was in attendence of.

[jackovesk]

Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising

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By Tim Ross, Matthew Moore and Steven Swinford 9:23PM GMT 28 Jan 2011

The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/01/29/1225996/534569-cairo.jpg

The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police.

On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011.

The secret document in full...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289698/Egypt-protests-secret-US-document-discloses-support-for-protesters.html

He has already been arrested by Egyptian security in connection with the demonstrations and his identity is being protected by The Daily Telegraph.

The crisis in Egypt follows the toppling of Tunisian president Zine al-Abedine Ben Ali, who fled the country after widespread protests forced him from office.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html

PS - Don't know whether this is Dis-Info or not? If true looks like the Corrupt American Govt. have their Puppet Ready to Go!

............

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Mubarak orders Egyptian government to resign as death toll rises

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PRESIDENT Hosni Mubarak has ordered Egypt's government to resign and vowed to bring in democratic reforms, in a televised address to the nation after several days of deadly anti-regime protests.
"I have asked the government to resign and tomorrow there will be a new government," a stoney-faced Mubarak said early today after four days of protests demanding his resignation in which at least 27 people have been killed.

Mubarak, in power for three decades, vowed to bring in "new measures" for democracy and justice without giving any indication of other changes, even as protests raged in Cairo and other cities despite a night-time curfew.

US President Barack Obama called on Mubarak to take concrete steps towards political reform and to refrain from using violence against protesters.

"I want to be very clear in calling upon the Egyptian authorities to refrain from any violence against peaceful protesters," Obama said in a statement shortly after speaking with Mubarak by telephone for 30 minutes. "The people of Egypt have rights that are universal. That includes the right to peaceful assembly and association. The right to free speech and the ability to determine their own destiny. These are human rights."

Protests in Egypt yesterday entered their fourth day, with demonstrators calling for the ouster of Mubarak, who called out the army and declared a 6pm to 7am curfew in Cairo, Alexandria and Suez be extended nationwide, as tens of thousands of protesters rampaged through the streets.

With street battles raging, key allies the US, Britain and Germany expressed concern about the violence, with Britain noting the protesters had "legitimate grievances".

Mubarak "has asked the armed forces, in cooperation with the police, to implement the decision, and maintain security and secure public establishments and private property," state television said yesterday.

Two hours after the curfew went into effect, people were still on the streets of Cairo and Alexandria, with protesters urging the army to join them.

Rest of the story here...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/eqypt-death-toll-rises-as-curfew-enforced/story-e6frg6so-1225996533476

PS - "PRESIDENT Hosni Mubarak has ordered Egypt's government to resign and vowed to bring in democratic reforms," Yeah Right, you've been in Power for 30 years Overseeing this Corruption and I've got a Bridge in Sydney I want to sell you!!!

[TheCougarandEagle]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6173

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6173

Let me check these first, they should not be to of the same links.
But the pictures in one is just incredible, the protestors are actually surrounding the police almost like the directing them

[TheCougarandEagle]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6182


This is the proper second link

[shiva777]

Like An Egyptian
Posted On January 29th, 2011 by Stewart
As I mentioned on a radio show Thursday that will be broadcast this week, Tunisia was just the beginning of a change in the Arab/ Islamic world. I mentioned that others would soon fall, now Egypt is among the list. It is only the beginning.

On the show, I mentioned that it seemed to me that the Mossad and American intelligence services had a hand in the uprisings. Now I see a report in a UK newspaper confirming that Wikileaks had released documents showing that an overthrow of the Egyptian government has been in the works for at least 3 years, backed by American intelligence agencies.

In order to facilitate the Staged Alien Invasion and Staged Second Coming, all governments must be in alignment with the program. The Arab/ Islamic world has always sought their own, fundamentalist New World Order. Therefore, we are seeing the quick overthrow of many Arab governments that are either too Muslim in direction or too old school with nepotism and totalitarianism. President Mubarak of Egypt wanted to relinquish his office to his son, without voting or due process.

Already, Iraq and Afghanistan are in American hands. Tunisia has been converted. Now Egypt. Today, there are riots and protests in Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Algeria and Yemen. The population of southern Sudan has voted to split the country in half and form a new nation. Who is next?

Keep your eyes on Syria, Libya, United Arab Emirates and even Saudi Arabia. The Saudi king condemned the rioting in Egypt and blamed it on “infiltrators”. He is correct.

The maniac president of Iran said that the Egyptian president should listen to his Muslim people and leave office. Funny, the protests in iran asking for the same thing were met with gunfire and beatings. Perhaps the Iranian president should “walk like an Egyptian.”

Air travel is stopping to Egypt and Tunisia. Governments are issuing warnings. But, the protests will not last long. They will jump from country to country until all the Muslim governments are inline with the NWO of the US/ UK and Germany. Israel watches and waits. Gaza protests. The pot is
Stuart Swerdlow

[Etherios]

first EU had economic crisis... now arab countries are having social crisis... why i keep thinking this is all planned?

[oldeyes]

Going to try this again - every time I try to post on this website, I get kicked off. Frustrating! Anyway, I've been feeling my way around this news. My intuition tells me that the Middle East as it is presently would never topple from protests. My intuition is screaming: This is not happening, per se, but it is being played out. Eyes open, ears perked, y'all. ;) Peace and love.

[Beth]

I've merged several threads, lets try and keep everything Egypt related here. No need for multiple. Thanks.

[pinkfrost]

well, i got a call from a mutual friend. my friends stuck in a "western complex" in cairo that are being protected by "military" outside their building are probably leaving in the next couple of days. they are kinda in a wait and watch mode. they haven't had cell service, internet service, or tv since this whole things started. they were only able to get through using a land line. watching cnn international, i am hoping they can get safe passage out of there if that is their choice. so hard to watch knowing my friend is stuck in it.

[eaglespirit]

These are powerful world-wide 'now' happenings going on Folks!

For those just tuning in...prompted to post this link to give a pin-pointed overview of what was and is happening in Egypt on how important and powerful it is at setting a precedent for change to more right instead of all wrong.
This IS World-Wide, Folks...sooo important!

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/01/whats-happening-egypt-explained

Thoughts of Protection to those People directly/indirectly involved in this... exposing the darker government ties in Egypt and around the World.

...if someone here has already done this, all the better.
just needed to bring the story to the forefront because it is a catalyst of powerful change and key countries are involved that are the prime manipulators.

[Gaia]

This does not sound like the typical "Islamic Revolution" this sounds like the fight for freedom and liberty !
The Internet blackout in Egypt illustrates an important lesson.

[bluestflame]

in thier panic they went to pull the plug , not realizing it was already too late

[Etherios]

Some info that feels weird... from 29 this month...

This :
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And this: About those Looters (http://allisonkilkenny.com/2011/01/about-those-looters/)

[bennycog]

it has spread frum tunisia to egypt.. i guess starting in the countries that have lost their value in the world market. it is very important. but i am hoping the peaceful protests will prevail.
on the other hand it does not not help while someone is killed doing a peacefull protest because the mainstream media will focus on the retaliation of that death and mark the protesters as vile and unproductive.

[bennycog]

http://twitter.com/sultanalqassemi


to keep well updated on these events follow this twitter link.. and i am exstatic that the army is calling for the police to lower their weapons on the egyption people.
good on you guys.. now there is something very productive :)

[Swami]

Protests Spread To Saudi Arabia
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12555-Centralised-world-in-revolt-thread&p=114316&viewfull=1#post114316

[Ramdass528]

http://twitter.com/sultanalqassemi


to keep well updated on these events follow this twitter link.. and i am exstatic that the army is calling for the police to lower their weapons on the egyption people.
good on you guys.. now there is something very productive :)

Wait isn't this the new prime ministers twitter that Mubarak but in order in response to the ptb to just "reform" the government? And I thought most of the police went 'underground' so more chaos would spread trying to destroy the protests? I just woke up so I am trying to find out what happen. I am behind the Egyptians protesters and it's very telling hearing which gov don't want the dictator to be removed. That said the protesters are doing a great job dispite all the setbacks they are having to face. It's insprirational and beautiful how much unity their has been. They cannot be ignored. Aljazeera's stream is what I am using to stay on top of what's happening http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Edit: Now airforce is flying low roaring over Tahrir square trying to scare the protesters, constantly right now since curfew is about to start at least that's my guess, but each time theirs a defening roar by the protesters of "Go away!".

[Lifesong]

I have been watching Al Jazeera's english stream for going on 3 days now. My heart is with the inspiring Egyptian people, while still I hope they are not being manipulated.

Stories of the American intelligentsia's meddling - planting and training core political dissidents back in 2008, coupled with the statement that Obama had been telling Mubarak "for two years" to get ahead of this situation, reeks of mere manipulation of the hearts and dreams of the common citizen.

I'll continue to will success, whatever form that may take, to the protestors - all the while knowing this may be just another trap to put in place a regime that will not hold peace with Israel, raising tensions and leading onward to the "anglo-saxon" mission.

It is difficult to find the words. May the people overcome all nefarious plans for them from any direction.

(As I've been typing this, the Egyptian fighter jets are now flying low over the people in Tahrir square.)

[slvrfx]

Yup. I believe this is all happening to destroy very important evidence of SOMETHING HUGE that is in the process of being disclosed.

(See the thread I started today called "The REAL Disclosure".)

[Zook]

Good Morning Good Avalon!

MOD hat off

Webster Tarpley, IMO, has the best analysis of what is going on in Egypt right now. To everything he offers in the RT clip above, I would add that Egypt's internet off-switch may perhaps be the largest piece of this puzzle. Egypt could be a test-case for the larger operation planned for the western industrialized countries. Remember, Hurricane Katrina was used to gauge the parameters of urban disaster (a few years ago) ... from microcosm to the global macroscopic arena when the time is ripe. All the modules must be tested for functionality before that.

To wit, how will the masses respond when one of their key weapons (e.g. lightning communication) is removed. HOAA.

:smow::typing:

[Lost Soul]

It's reached Saudi Arabia now? Well then, the Islamic movement towards restoring the caliphate has begun. It does not fare well for those who would prefer peace and quiet.

[goldmother]

This does not sound like the typical "Islamic Revolution" this sounds like the fight for freedom and liberty !
The Internet blackout in Egypt illustrates an important lesson.

This only my second post so be gentle with me

While i to think its a strike for freedom i cant help being a bit uneasy about this just who they guna bring in to rule as David Icke says Problem Reaction Solution

[eaglespirit]

Hi All,
I understand most all of you here know there will be alot of outside noise and analyzation with all these current going ons
...but...
I personally 'feel' these current happenings are going to energize the rhythm of 'good' people world-wide as never before...to make CHANGE..."good", regular, honest, intelligent, hard working people, everywhere!

[JoshERTW]

Egypt's internet off-switch[/B] may perhaps be the largest piece of this puzzle. Egypt could be a test-case for the larger operation planned for the western industrialized countries. Remember, Hurricane Katrina was used to gauge the parameters of urban disaster (a few years ago) ... from microcosm to the global macroscopic arena when the time is ripe. All the modules must be tested for functionality before that.


Zook - I was just thinking the same thing.

I also think there may be some merit to other comments re: the movement or destruction of artifacts - this MSM piece even talks about the effects of the protests and riots on museums:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/01/30/cairo-museum.html

[Billy]

Maybe this has been posted already, if not take a look and Sign if it feels right. look at the names and numbers of souls around the world signing. Blessings

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/democracy_for_egypt/?rc=fb

[Ramdass528]

It's reached Saudi Arabia now? Well then, the Islamic movement towards restoring the caliphate has begun. It does not fare well for those who would prefer peace and quiet.

The people of Egypt are demanding bread, freedom, and social justice. So no fear there. I think that is just paronia, no offense, but if they do go that way let us hope it'll be like Andulsia in Spain or like a great Caliphate of the past that followed the Sufi Islam religous zeal vs having an idea that that means this is the end for us, when this is at very least one step in the right direction.

[bashi]

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[TheCougarandEagle]

http://cpj.org/2011/01/egypt-blocks-al-jazeera-transmissions-orders-burea.php

[jcocks]

Yup. I believe this is all happening to destroy very important evidence of SOMETHING HUGE that is in the process of being disclosed.

(See the thread I started today called "The REAL Disclosure".)

I concur. As soon as I read that the presidents' wife, children, grand-children, along with all the countrys' richest most infuential families have all fled the country on their private jets for places such as the US and UK, the hairs on my back stood up. I believe this is something *MUCH LARGER* than just a nations' people who are fighting for freedom. Those in the know obviously think this is going to be a MAJOR, LONG TERM thing that is not going to just peter out after a few weeks.... At least, thats the feeling I get from all this. I don't know, there may be something regarding the pyramids involved......

[Ramdass528]

...........nm will try and make this post beneficial with any recent updates
Edit: At least over 150 have been killed in protests so far in Egypt
People are calling for an international strike today in order to help topple regime.
And the sun is rising on Egypt still defying 8AM curfew:hippie:
April 6th movement calls for a million to protesters to demonstrate on Tuesday
Security forces to be redeployed on monday except in Tahrir square
Army to begin errecting barricades in central Egypt. Right now trying to stop the cars by using a tank to allow only one lane access.
Support for the Egyptian protesters is being demonstrated in Turkey and many around the world.
People in countries such as the US are trying to be flown out of Egypt
Germany, UK, US, and France leaders appear to be tiptoeing on this issue or the only ones I know of who at first wanted reform in the government, but after that failed. They probably realize it is better to go with movement and try and turn it in their favor as far as I can tell.
Will we allow that to happen? the ball is in our court so to speak imo. But only time will tell

[jcocks]

If this were simple riots and protests it would die down after a few days, amybe weeks...... the rich & famous could go to the countryside and be safe until it had dies down.....

What I'd really like to know now is what is *REALLY* happening in Egypt for the rich and famous to not just be going to safety within their country, but EVACUATING overseas to western countries..... For that to happen, surely they must know of a LONG AND PROTRACTED PERIOD OF REAL DANGER coming?? Not just riots, but REAL danger...

(Unless they are really that scared of the masses waking up???)

[Ramdass528]

If this were simple riots and protests it would die down after a few days, amybe weeks...... the rich & famous could go to the countryside and be safe until it had dies down.....

What I'd really like to know now is what is *REALLY* happening in Egypt for the rich and famous to not just be going to safety within their country, but EVACUATING overseas to western countries..... For that to happen, surely they must know of a LONG AND PROTRACTED PERIOD OF REAL DANGER coming?? Not just riots, but REAL danger...

(Unless they are really that scared of the masses waking up???)

It's uncertainty they fear. They have really never seen the masses waking up as whole like this as globally as it has. Or they have and seen just what extremes planning how to put the masses back to sleep. My guess probably both or in the middle in between is what's happening. But I am praying that this is helping create a larger precedent of what is considered it means to be a democracy. I am only 19 wishful and naive as hell but hoping for the best right now and consider it possible.
Also with what we seen in Egypt it can be learned that the PTB won't give up the fight without die trying. And only unity can mitigate this.

[Ramdass528]

Egyptian Police Kill Teen Protestor in the Street on video
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[bennycog]

Wait isn't this the new prime ministers twitter that Mubarak but in order in response to the ptb to just "reform" the government? And I thought most of the police went 'underground' so more chaos would spread trying to destroy the protests? I just woke up so I am trying to find out what happen. I am behind the Egyptians protesters and it's very telling hearing which gov don't want the dictator to be removed. That said the protesters are doing a great job dispite all the setbacks they are having to face. It's insprirational and beautiful how much unity their has been. They cannot be ignored. Aljazeera's stream is what I am using to stay on top of what's happening http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Edit: Now airforce is flying low roaring over Tahrir square trying to scare the protesters, constantly right now since curfew is about to start at least that's my guess, but each time theirs a defening roar by the protesters of "Go away!".

i believe it is yes..
we can only guess how they have used the police to try and make the protestors to look like "the bad guys" as has been done in just about any uprising in humanity. and if this spreads into something the whole world can follow or join in on i would be happy to, but i would only join if i knew in my heart that the majority are there for their own feeling of the state of the world. i would be disheartened to see protestors around me destroying property that they will only have to rebuild themselves and at their own expense (taxes). a protest group is a very fine line thing, they can be turned into a monster if the group does not maintain the integrity of what they are originally there for. i fear so much that and uprising like this can imprison us deeper. but ialso want it to happen so badly the world needs it.
what the world needs to see alongside these protests is history and the story that has led them there. the true story, the research behind it and no added MSG by the mainstream :)

[muxfolder]

Food staples starting to run out in Egypt
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/01/30/egypt.protests.food/index.html?hpt=T2

[Gaia]

This only my second post so be gentle with me

While i to think its a strike for freedom i cant help being a bit uneasy about this just who they guna bring in to rule as David Icke says Problem Reaction Solution

If you look at the Tunisian uprising, it's a youth uprising. It is the youth that knows how to use the media, Internet, Facebook, so there are other players. And I do not believe that the US or Israel will set the tone. There's no way a foreign agency could or would be involved. Governments never engage in regime change especially with the the Egyptian youth.

An interesting portrayal of the Egyptian youth is provided in the The Egypt Human Development Report 2010, published by the UN Development Programme and the Ministry of Economic Development.

Although Egypt is a middle-income developing country, it has a relatively high poverty rate which has agone up from 19.6% to 21.6% between 2008 and 2010. Unem­ployment is also high, being near to 10%, an increase from 8.4% in 2008.

What is worse, the unemployment among young males (aged 15 to 29 years) was 32% in 2009, meaning that one in three young men was out of a job. And many more were affected by underemployment.

“Many respondents said that growing unemployment has led to insecurity over the future,” according to the Egypt Human Develop­ment Report, giving details of a survey it carried out.

“It leaves them with time on their hands, little to do and frustrated.

“Unemployment also affects allegiance to the state, which is perceived as a root cause of the lack of work. This, potentially, could intensify the rebellion against what is perceived as a dysfunctional system of governance, expressed either through violence against that reality or by withdrawal into a ‘purer’ spiritual sphere.”

This analysis of the state of mind of young Egyptians had actually forecast the “rebellion” against the regime that has now taken place.

The report also pinpointed the perceived weakness of the state’s developmental role as a reason for disillusionment among the youth. They are further alienated by having no channel of communication to the ruling elite.

“The youth do not feel the state extends services to them,” said the report. “The quality of education is poor, employment opportunities modest to non-existent, and this reduces their attachment to the state and its regime.”

The report added that the youth fear that the only means for social mobility is bribery, favouritism or bypassing the law, which breeds a feeling of hopelessness.

As a result, there is low interest among the youth for formal politics, with only 6% strongly interested, while 84% strongly support further democracy in the country.

Last week, this combination of frustration with the system and the desire for “more democracy” must have contributed to the outpouring of feelings in the streets in many parts of Egypt.

How these dramatic events will lead may be determined this week. Veteran journalist and specialist in Middle East affairs, Robert Fisk, covering the Cairo events, wrote: “It might be the end. It is certainly the beginning of the end.”

An important lesson from this crisis is that political stability in any country can be threatened if the interests of the young are not taken care of, especially their having enough job opportunities, participation in decision making, and their yearning for democracy.

Source: http://thestar.com.my/

I think the median age of 24 is the key. Young people are interested in the world and engaged in social media. One thing young people are really good at is only touching things once.They are young, street smart and their pride at being Egyptian.

[Ramdass528]

A lot is still happening within Egypt. Aljazeera camera equipment has been siezed, and 6 are under arrest in Cario by security forces.
Regime is still trying to ignore the people and electing new people in office

[Billy]

An Interesting article, " Are We Witnessing the start of a Global Revolution" http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22963

[Muzz]

Tribes Threaten to Attack Suez Canal if Mubarak Does Not Step Down
http://www.worldthreats.com/?p=5659

[pinkfrost]

listening to last nights coast to coast am (at least i think it's last night's) and the first guest had a good idea for everyone to keep an old dial up modum and the software to run it for communicating in an emergency, ()if you ever come across a digital unplugging, like in egypt.) he said it's a lot harder to unplug telephone lines than digital and that made a lot of sense to me. however, i am no internet expert. thought i would pass that along.

[granny]

first EU had economic crisis... now arab countries are having social crisis... why i keep thinking this is all planned?

Yes ... anytime any story (and admittedly this is big) is covered nonstop by the MSN one has to wonder what they do not want us to look at ... move along, nothing to see here.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hi All,
I understand most all of you here know there will be alot of outside noise and analyzation with all these current going ons
...but...
I personally 'feel' these current happenings are going to energize the rhythm of 'good' people world-wide as never before...to make CHANGE..."good", regular, honest, intelligent, hard working people, everywhere!

I thought this says a lot for what is happening right now in Egypt...


“Here you will see extremists, moderates, Christians, Muslims, all kinds of people. It is the first time that we are all together since the revolution of Saad Zaghloul,” said Naguib, another demonstrator, referring to the leader of the 1919 revolution against the British occupation.

“On American television, they won’t stop saying that if Mubarak steps down, the Muslim Brotherhood will take over. But this is not the case. It is really the people who are coming together for their rights,” said Tamer, an American-Egyptian.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle09.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2011/January/middleeast_January711.xml&section=middleeast

[Etherios]

listening to last nights coast to coast am (at least i think it's last night's) and the first guest had a good idea for everyone to keep an old dial up modum and the software to run it for communicating in an emergency, ()if you ever come across a digital unplugging, like in egypt.) he said it's a lot harder to unplug telephone lines than digital and that made a lot of sense to me. however, i am no internet expert. thought i would pass that along.

well old dial up modem will only work in an established network... they wont cut our home net line they will cut the ISPs ... so using dial up doesnt change the fact that isp will be dead. Dial up will only work if we know ip addresses of site etc and IF they dont block the DNS servers that relay the infos.

So dial up is not a good solution to the "net cut". Tho telnet connections or mircs that run on private server "might" run. For many years now all internet is rooted/given from isp with out them ... there should be private ppl with knowledge and equipment... and courage to oppose the "net cut"

[pinkfrost]

well old dial up modem will only work in an established network... they wont cut our home net line they will cut the ISPs ... so using dial up doesnt change the fact that isp will be dead. Dial up will only work if we know ip addresses of site etc and IF they dont block the DNS servers that relay the infos.

So dial up is not a good solution to the "net cut". Tho telnet connections or mircs that run on private server "might" run. For many years now all internet is rooted/given from isp with out them ... there should be private ppl with knowledge and equipment... and courage to oppose the "net cut"

awesome! my first use of quotes! :lever:

thanks for explaining those details. is there any reason a dial-up modem might be helpful in america to communicate messages? like say...solar flares or something not "cutting off"?

[Rocky_Shorz]

I concur. As soon as I read that the presidents' wife, children, grand-children, along with all the countrys' richest most infuential families have all fled the country on their private jets for places such as the US and UK, the hairs on my back stood up. I believe this is something *MUCH LARGER* than just a nations' people who are fighting for freedom.

don't forget massive gatherings with Swine and Bird Flu human cases...

[RedeZra]

Mubarak has been Washington's man in Egypt for 3 decades

It's high time that the Egyptians kick out the minions of TPTB

[NinjaPhil]

I'd definitely agree that there is more going on here than the surface level. Jcocks, you've hit the nail on the head as far as noting the top class fleeing the country, this IMO is a clear indicator that something else is happening here. I wonder what the real story is?

[bodixa]

Did anyone else catch this - the Leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt just said LIVE in a TV interview with Sky news "We believe that Jews have the same human rights as us - they are our cousins."
He also said a bunch of stuff about Sharia law, women and was generally very moderate.

I'm off to eat my hat.

That was probably the most important thing I have heard in a loooong time. I know it's Sky, but he said that. And the mad thing was, the news interviewer didn't draw out its sigificance at all.

What's happening here???

[Adrian86]

As a result of not paying much attention (if at all) to the news media as of recent, I have seemed to evade understanding the underlying reasons for the Egyptian riots and would like to know more.

Would some sort of 'problem, reaction, solution' type scenario be playing out before us? for example: would the violent nature of such protests lend energy towards implementing 'unforeseen' political schemes by hidden intelligences? if so, what? and what other implications may come to mind?

Stepping to the side somewhat, From viewing a selection of various videos on the topic, I only managed to see the violent nature that many individuals possess, and that such violence proliferates like a contagious mob mentality disease.

Why do people feel so inclined to strike out violently towards their fellow man? What is the goal or the end game in the minds of the protesters? and why did many feel it was necessary to attain such goals by throwing rocks at each other?

I'm sorry if these questions have been covered in other parts of the Forum and if my inquiry comes across as ignorant as a result.

~Adrian

[ThePythonicCow]

well old dial up modem will only work in an established network... they wont cut our home net line they will cut the ISPs ... so using dial up doesnt change the fact that isp will be dead. Dial up will only work if we know ip addresses of site etc and IF they dont block the DNS servers that relay the infos.

So dial up is not a good solution to the "net cut". Tho telnet connections or mircs that run on private server "might" run. For many years now all internet is rooted/given from isp with out them ... there should be private ppl with knowledge and equipment... and courage to oppose the "net cut"

This analysis seems confused to me. Dial-up replaces the link layer; so long as you have a dial-up ISP still in operation and still connected to the rest of the world's Internet, then you can use it in place of your current high speed ISP. They will provide routing and DNS as do any ISP.

The key, in Egypt's case anyway, was having the long distance number of a dial-up ISP in some other country that was still on the air.

From what I read, this was indeed working for some people in Egypt, demonstrating that it was a solution to their "net cut." Slow and expensive, but works, if you can get a land line connection to a working provider and pay for it all.

[ThePythonicCow]

If you look at the Tunisian uprising, it's a youth uprising. It is the youth that knows how to use the media, Internet, Facebook, so there are other players. And I do not believe that the US or Israel will set the tone. There's no way a foreign agency could or would be involved. Governments never engage in regime change especially with the the Egyptian youth.I don't see a useful way to persuade anyone here to change their view on this, but I did want to register my disagreement with your statement that: "There's no way a foreign agency could or would be involved."

My understanding is that there is a long history of "foreign agency" involvement in such matters. I'd wager they are involved here as well, in substantial ways.

[TheCougarandEagle]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6196

john

[modwiz]

Did anyone else catch this - the Leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt just said LIVE in a TV interview with Sky news "We believe that Jews have the same human rights as us - they are our cousins."
He also said a bunch of stuff about Sharia law, women and was generally very moderate.

I'm off to eat my hat.

That was probably the most important thing I have heard in a loooong time. I know it's Sky, but he said that. And the mad thing was, the news interviewer didn't draw out its sigificance at all.

What's happening here???

Jews and Muslims have a long history of peaceful, respectful coexistence. Cousins who started out as half-brothers. It is the zionists that the Muslims do not like and vice versa.

Some people think this is splitting hairs. Wrong, not getting it splits people who are not natural enemies. This is the old divide and conquer crap at work.

Muslim Brotherhood would like to lead a faithful but modern Egypt.

That the media let this little bit of truth out is what is amazing.

If that was your point all along........................Nevermind!

[pinkfrost]

so mubarak is not running again. my friend is safe and sound, but is a little wigged out. it was pretty hectic getting out, they ended up in dubai instead of the uk...and had to leave her cat in egypt...

[TheCougarandEagle]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6207

[TheCougarandEagle]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6202

[Gone001]

Not going so well....

Egypt crisis: protesters killed as gunfire breaks out in Cairo
At least five people have been killed in violence that erupted in Cairo's Tahrir Square overnight, with supporters of Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak opening fire on anti-government protesters.
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The Egyptian military has had the square ringed with tank squads to try to keep order, but the troops did not intervene to prevent the deadly shootings.

"Most of the casualties were the result of stone throwing and attacks with metal rods and sticks," Egypt's health minister said.

"At dawn today there were gunshots. The real casualties taken to hospital were 836, of which 86 are still in hospital and there are five dead," Ahmed Samih Farid told state television.

"People are too tired to be terrified," Al Jazeera television quoted a 33-year-old woman in the square as saying.

But she said protesters who launched an unprecedented challenge to Mr Mubarak's 30-year-rule last week would not give up. "We cannot go back at this point."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8300072/Egypt-crisis-protesters-killed-as-gunfire-breaks-out-in-Cairo.html

So far casualties are pretty low but this represents an escalation. Hopefully it gets better; we should send our support so that it DOES get better :). Just visualize:P

Cheers,

Aldous

[ponda]

Adrian86 said
Stepping to the side somewhat, From viewing a selection of various videos on the topic, I only managed to see the violent nature that many individuals possess, and that such violence proliferates like a contagious mob mentality disease.

Why do people feel so inclined to strike out violently towards their fellow man? What is the goal or the end game in the minds of the protesters? and why did many feel it was necessary to attain such goals by throwing rocks at each other?

The protest had been peaceful right up until the pro government supporters organized themselves and charged at the anti government protesters.

It was reported on Al Jazeera that police id's had been found on some of the pro government supporters.

[Nortreb]

[B][SIZE="3"]PS - "PRESIDENT Hosni Mubarak has ordered Egypt's government to resign and vowed to bring in democratic reforms," Yeah Right, you've been in Power for 30 years Overseeing this Corruption and I've got a Bridge in Sydney I want to sell you!!!
I feel ya on this! I was finishing my study at the University when the clown took office 8 days after President Sadat was assasinated on October 14, 1981! This brings back bitter memories as I remember seeing the news clip of the assasination. It was clearly as setup from this clown's handlers. Another puppet of the hidden hand like his friend Sadamn! This guy has been in power under Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and now Obama. This should be interesting how this plays out on the stage.

Peace

[Richard]

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[witchy1]

Mubarak's "Security" Forces Drive Through the Crowd = From about 40 thru to 60.
Not for the sensitive

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[Zepheriah]

Mubarak's "Security" Forces Drive Through the Crowd = From about 40 thru to 60.
Not for the sensitive

i5APaDE6ja8

Truly pitiful behaviour.

[bodixa]

There's a fascinating row on BBC news 24 right now over the fact that some of those stirring up the trouble were found with military and police ID cards on them. The BBC seem certain this is true, but the interviewee is insisting he needs to check his sources...

the plot thickens...

David Cameron knew something when he made that statement at No. 10 with Ban Ki Moon (probably dodgy)

(Ok the interviewee is Dr Ibrahim Kamel, he's a Mubarak supporter.. Gen sec of NDP - he is claiming it is a conspiracy driven by the West and western media)

[The One]

http://cryptome.org/info/egypt-fights/egypt-fights5.htm

this needs to stop now before more suffering

[TheCougarandEagle]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6221

[TheCougarandEagle]

Also

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6219

[delaware]

thanks, I didn´t know of that news provider

[Ramdass528]

thanks, I didn´t know of that news provider

Yeah the real news is pretty good. Here's a link to alot of news channels http://freetubetv.net/index.php?view=1cHJlc3N0dg . Russia Today is another good one.

[Shairia]

Something has to break soon. Mubarak has closed all banks and shops are locked tight preventing people from purchasing food and accessing funds. Farmers are not able to bring their crops into the city without security from the army and those with food are jacking up prices to a level where only the rich can afford to purchase it. I was not surprised at the government pro-Mubarak forces and their actions. Even if Mubarak is forced to stepdown, his ego will not allow him to stand by and watch outside forces gain control of Egypt without a last hurrah. I fear what this might be.

[Ramdass528]

Young Christian and atheist Egyptians form a human chain around their Muslim countrymen praying during the siege from the pro-Mubarak thugs.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/FeaturedImagePost/images/pray.jpg

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/blogpostFeaturedImage/images/maghrib.jpg
Edit: Updates
Protests in support of the Egyptian people all around the world.
EU working closely with VP Sulieman to resolve situation.
Indefinite prostest until Moubarak steps down.

[Gone001]

Ok heres an interesting one for you; first the article:

Ghost Horse Caught on Tape During Egypt Protests Sparks Theories of Biblical Proportions
February 4, 2011 by Bruce Wilson

In the shortest amount of time, the ghost horse video began to spread like a wildfire, accompanied by religious-based theories. The most heard theory, other than the lens flare theory, is the one of ‘The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse’, an apocalyptic vision predicted for the future in the Book of Revelation of Saint John the Evangelist.

Chapter 6 tells of a scroll held by God that is sealed with seven seals. The first four are opened by Jesus Christ – The Four Horsemen – four riders on white, red, black and pale horses which symbolize Conquest, War, Famine and Death.

Revelation 6:8
“I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.”

A lot of people now think they have seen the Pale Horseman or the Fourth Horseman in the middle of the Egypt clashes. The ghost horse certainly has a pale color…

Other more technical-oriented people claim CGI (Computer-Generated Imagery) software was used, but then you have to ask yourself why a television network would do such a thing.

To me it looks clear that due to an incredible coincidence, an astonishing lens flare occurred at a most unfortunate moment. We DO live in “interesting” times, but I don’t think MSNBC caught the Fourth Horseman on tape.

Watch the original video here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41400327#41400327

http://www.usnewssource.com/headlines/ghost-horse-caught-on-tape-during-egypt-protests-sparks-theories-of-biblical-proportions_190926.html

Here is the vid. It shows the horse at the end:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UKz3GVrHI8&feature=player_embedded#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UKz3GVrHI8&feature=player_embedded#

Here is some background on the 4th horse of the apocalypse haha:

Pale Horse
The fourth horseman as depicted in the Bamberg Apocalypse (1000-1020)

When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hell was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

— Revelation 6:7-8˄ NIV

The fourth and final horseman is named Death. Of all the riders, he is the only one to whom the text itself explicitly gives a name. Still others apply the names "Pestilence"[9] or "Plague" to this horseman, based on alternative translations of the Bible (such as the Jerusalem Bible). Unlike the other three, he is not described carrying a weapon/object, instead he is followed by Hades. However, illustrations—like those above—commonly depict him carrying a scythe (like the Grim Reaper) or a sword.

The color of Death's horse is written as khlôros (χλωρóς) in the original Koine Greek, which is often translated as "pale", though "ashen", "pale green", and "yellowish green"[8] are other possible interpretations. The color suggests the sickly pallor of a corpse.[4][10] The natural colors of horse coats that could be indicated include dun, palomino, buckskin, or one of several color variants with dilution genes.[citation needed]

The verse beginning "they were given power over a fourth of the earth" may refer solely to Death and Hades, or it may summarize the roles of all four horsemen; scholars disagree on this point.

Here is the main Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse

Cheers,

Aldous

[Muzz]

President Hosni Mubarak resigns as head of Egypt's ruling party, according to state TV - Sky News

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Its all over BBc and Twitter.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Egypt-Hosni-Mubarak-Stands-Firm-After-Day-Of-Departure-Protests-As-Britons-Head-Home-From-Cairo/Article/201102115923449

[Shairia]

He quit the ruling party as their leader, not the presidency. He still is holding on as acting dictator. I don't see how this changes anything.

[E.Yes]

Slavoj Zizek articulates the situation in Egypt beautifully in this Al Jazeera interview.
He even compares world leaders to Tom and Jerry cartoons, wonderful.

http://motherboard.tv/2011/2/4/slavoj-zizek-gives-us-the-maddest-and-loudest-opinion-on-egypt-video

[mcaballero]

I find this quite interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheTruthIsFromGod#p/p

With best wishes,

[heyokah]

How about this one :"Spoof on US State Departments Position on Egypt"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBuMuzhvYeA



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBuMuzhvYeA

[TheCougarandEagle]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=6251

John