I'm a visitor. In my home world, we only have one written law - balance

[stork]

Or you can use the word fairness, justice which all have similar meanings.
Our people is more like a human child. Our actions are guided by feelings there is very little or no thinking involved. Follow one instruction is probably going to use up all our thinking capacities. Clearly it is prone to mistakes but we welcome mistakes as long as it does not break the rule of balance since mistakes are the fastest way to learn. You are not free if you cannot freely make mistakes.

It operates somewhat like this:
If you are upholding the balance you are free to go ahead.
If you are upsetting the balance you are breaking the law and you will be stopped.
If it is unclear you are free to go ahead.
One simple example would be if a man beats a woman or a child he will be promptly stopped. However if a woman and a child beat a man they are free to do so. If one has more power, he's less protected and that is considered fair. Equal treatment of powerful and powerless people is considered unfair. Of course, privilege for powerful people is pure insanity because it always lead to chaos.
It is similar to the idea of rich people pay more tax. However tax itself is unfair because it is a powerful organization namely government siphoning energy from the people who are less powerful. As such unfair energy transfer continues government grows bigger and bigger while people become smaller and smaller in the end it will inevitably collapse like your history has repeatedly shown.

The downsides:
Compare to human our people are lazy and less productive because there is no pressure to climb the social ladder. We do have to go through intense military training because our race’s official role is guards of balance we have to defend the powerless a lot...and some activities are illegal by human standard because we consider robbing the rich fair business...We are not entirely anarchy though we put people who has less power in charge as a way of maintaining balance. So to us Matriarchy is a no-brainer.
And as I already mentioned we are not good at thinking/strategizing. You may think war need more strategizing but to us experience and creativity matter more. We do not shy away from confrontations as long as it is not against someone weaker than us...such attitude can be problematic sometimes. Or I should just admit, we have poor impulse control much like a human child.
Lower efficiency: It takes greater effort to maintain balance just like it takes extra efforts to balance a scale.

So I'm not sharing this to promote our way. Human are yet to discover their own role in the universe. Maybe your current way is okay because you certainly win when it comes to productivity. I'm sharing it as an alternative so you can have more freedom to choose. If all you have are bad choices like the US election, your options are too limited and we want freedom for everyone because we enjoy our freedom very much. It is like wanting to share with a friend what we enjoyed, but you are free to reject. I'd like to emphasize, we do not care about your growth, your enlightenment, your evolution, whatever goal you have is your business we only care about your freedom. Because anyone who is free will naturally become who they are and that is all we want. For everyone to be themselves.
If you have any questions please feel free to ask. Bear in mind thinking and reasoning is not my strong suit. And my memory is damaged what I remember about my home world is not 100% accurate. I can only share to the best of my knowledge. Human are great thinkers/architects so I'm fairly certain provided with an idea you can take care of the rest.
It is our sincere hope when your old world collapse again, maybe you can build a more balanced world this time so it does not collapse and wipe out all your hard efforts again. Construct a world is same as construct a building. A well balanced building/world does not collapse.

[gini]

Hello Stork ,nice to meet you.
Freedom.,no matter what you want to become.,freedom takes care for that ...this resonates deeply with my soul . Thank you for sharing!
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Beautyful in its simplicity,freedom is my religion too, not uncommon for someone coming from the Netherlands -wich is a country where tthe philosophy of freedom was probably inherited from the Frysians,where a similar rule about freedom & honesty were the foundation of their society,
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Later on The United States adopted this ideal of Freedom in their constitution.

Funny enough i found my home in Thailand ,and i found out that 'Thai' means free!Because the Thais were always moving away from the chinese to preserve their freedom up until today...
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Can you tell something about how the balance in your homeworld is made between free choice(with the possibilty to make mistakes and things can go 'wrong' & pre destination(where even a 'mistake' was meant to happen)?Thanx:sun:

[stork]

Hello Stork ,nice to meet you.

Can you tell something about how the balance in your homeworld is made between free choice(with the possibilty to make mistakes and things can go 'wrong' & pre destination(where even a 'mistake' was meant to happen)?Thanx:sun:

Thanks for the question. I did not know Thai means free. ;)
We do not differentiate.
On the surface. the preventable mistake seems worse.
However very few of us are chess masters who can think 100 steps ahead and thought of all the possible outcomes. And even great chess masters make mistakes.
Also a lot of times different people see differently. It can be avoidable/pre-written depends on who you ask. We like to respect everyone's own opinion if that happens. We believe we all hold unique perspectives that should be valued equally.
Instead of holding up an impossible standard that make everyone's life miserable, we much rather give one freedom to do wrong and correct it afterward.

Therefore mistakes are looked into and corrected, the reward is experience. It is not that serious. You are punished for your sin is BS to us. Generally I consider human mistakes/crimes somewhat pre-destined because injustices breed chaos. I do not see anyone purposefully making a mistake. Therefore a mistake/unbalanced situation is to be corrected but after that we just move on. There is no point dwelling on a mistake or holding it against anyone.
Of course there are serious crimes here. In a lot of cases anger and punishment seems justified. But when I look into perpetrators here all of them are deeply traumatized too. Most are repeating what they were taught as a child. So I personally will try to heal them instead of punishing them. But I’m only a visitor. It is ultimately your own decision to make. Everyone is free to learn from their decisions good or bad as long as it upholds the balance.

[ExomatrixTV]

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quote: "In my home world"

@stork (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?52751-stork) you did not mention what kind of home world ... Is it a country? (which one?) ... A different realm? ... Other planet? ... An independent, self-supporting (religious) community?

quote: "For everyone to be themselves" ...

Some may say: when you have a huge build up of rage ... that eventually will find a way to "blow off some steam" >>> that can be done in 1000s of ways no matter how it is done: good or bad, constructive or destructive, logical or illogical, rational or irrational, justified or unjustified, wise or unwise etc. etc. Because IF people assume it is "what they truly are" or "who they truly are" ... "being themselves" ... giving expression of that "being" in the heat of the moment" ... Looking back, knowing the history of the long journey of agony, anger, deep sorrow, pain, suffering, humiliation, being victim of all kinds of abuse, trauma(s) >>> there comes a point where people DO NOT CARE ANYMORE if they make mistakes or make the wrong (judgment) calls, or make it much worse, or hurting the wrong people, or face huge consequences etc. etc.


So my question would be: If "for everyone to be themselves" can lead to extremely dangerous situations ... can it not be said differently, that is not dangerous?

If so many people do not know how to live in self-honesty (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123347-Why-So-Many-Good-People-Comply-With-Evil-And-Become-Complicit&p=1624880&viewfull=1#post1624880), they are surrounded (mirrored) by other people doing the same: "not living in self-honesty" ... all to "fit in" whatever that is: like belief-systems, "new normal" behavior, (religious) cults, hive mind, group think, collectivism, neo-marxism (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115763-American-Marxism), societal (tunnel vision) mass conditioning etc. etc.).

So in essance so many people are conditioned in a specific way that deprives them finding out who they truly are >>> all done to "fit in" and become a copy of someone else! ... No wonder so many Souls are lost here on Earth!


And welcome to our forum where everybody has a chance to learn from (hopefully) constructive feedback :)

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

related issue/topic:


Why So Many Good People Comply With Evil And Become Complicit (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123347-Why-So-Many-Good-People-Comply-With-Evil-And-Become-Complicit)

[Denise/Dizi]

Have we heard of your home world Stork? Do you mind if I ask which it is?

[stork]

you did not mention what kind of home world ... Is it a country? (which one?) ... A different realm? ... Other planet? ... An independent, self-supporting (religious) community?
Hi John, nice to meet you and thank you for replying it helps my thinking process.
An independent community would be the closest description. We move from worlds to worlds because we do have some powerful enemies. It is much easier than human think. The situation here is close to North Korea. North Korean cannot leave North Korea just like human cannot leave Earth. Your leader has the technology to go into space but your people are locked in here because once you are shown the outside world, you will not tolerate anything here. I’m sure you’ve heard the idea before. Earth is under total lockdown not even information is allowed to flow in because information infects peoples mind.



So my question would be: If "for everyone to be themselves" can lead to extremely dangerous situations ... can it not be said differently, that is not dangerous?
Great question. A lot of human think this way. They think they need more control otherwise things will go wrong. It is the opposite. It is the suppression that drives everyone crazy.
In my world, with as little interference as possible, everyone falls into their places naturally. Sort of like the theory of "inaction brings the most desired result" from Taoism. Contrast to here most are forced into someone they are not and all hell break lose.
If people are simply allowed to be who they are they will learn to love themselves and as a result they will love everyone around them. If you try to restrict someone, that anger will manifest into self-hatred, that hate will then turn towards everyone surrounding them or towards themselves. As you can see happening everyday in your world. I would like to make a hypothesis. All human babies, if properly cared for (by this I mean they are provided with protection not restriction, are allowed to freely explore their own identity, are not forced into someone their caregivers have in mind), will grow into great and loving adults. I have not yet seen an exception.
Same could be said for the entire human race. Human race obviously has many issues. But that is because you were abandoned and was never properly looked after. And I am so sorry this happened to your race. It breaks my heart human seems to think it is their fault they were abandoned and have been torturing/harming themselves ever since. Essentially you are all one and all these in-fightings are harming yourself. Like an abandoned child turned to self-harm trying to soothe their pain. I’m unclear why it happened originally, maybe it will come to me later. But needless to say, the fault is entirely on the race who abandoned you. Human did nothing wrong.

[Isserley]

They think they need more control otherwise things will go wrong.

Hi, welcome to the forum :)

So, is there any case at all where you allow some form of control? Like for example type of control where you won't allow your 2 yo child to run off under a car or something similar which will result in fatal injury or death?
I can not agree that phrase "learn from mistakes" can apply here.. but that is just me.

and one more question - do you have a mission here on Earth and what is it?

thanks

[ExomatrixTV]

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One strong thing I have learned being on this Planet Earth is: trying (or forcing) to have a "100% risk-free" life 24/7, is like committing "spiritual suicide" to me.

But not being on high alert when necessary and not having legit concerns (for yourself & your loved ones or even humanity as a whole) is also a form of "spiritual suicide" too ... So indeed there is need for balance with (almost) all things.

As a wise person once said, "You can choose to ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality".

A "wannabe wiseguy" like me, once said in the early & mid 1990s on Dutch 🇳🇱 National Radio & TV: "You can perfume reality, so that you (temporary) can feel comfortable when the sh!t is rising everywhere (metaphorically speaking (https://www.quora.com/What-does-metaphorically-speaking-mean)) ... there comes a point that we all may drown in the smelly sh!t we ignored for so long ... sometimes feeling uncomfortable is necessary for our survival on the long run ... Acting upon the signals, that are dozens of willfully ignored "elephants in the room" (https://substack.com/@johnkuhles/p-140848836) right now!

So many are sleepwalking in to full-blown tyranny, having (intellectual) "Stockholm Syndrome (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Stockholm%20Syndrome)", and/or having a "Bystander Effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect)" and/or acting like "The Milgram Experiment (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+Milgram+Experiment)" connected to being trapped in a severe "Confirmation Bias Feedback Loop (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias)" >> and if that is not enough, you have deepstate/shadow government (https://substack.com/@johnkuhles/p-140848836)/megacorporations/mass media inducing "Mass Formation Psychosis (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119992-The-Psychology-of-Totalitarianism)". https://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0406%20Facepalm.gif

cheers,
John Kuhles (https://substack.com/@johnkuhles) 🦜🦋🌳


Why So Many Good People Comply With Evil And Become Complicit (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123347-Why-So-Many-Good-People-Comply-With-Evil-And-Become-Complicit)

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ef2daf1-e8ee-4d7f-9fae-04e819bb6fd9_600x600.png (https://substack.com/@johnkuhles)

[Denise/Dizi]

I hope you don't mind me asking, but why would you come to a world that is alienated from the others, if you are aware we are fairly stuck here, and defenseless (For the most part) against very hostile adversaries? It would seem that this would put the humans on this planet at great risk of being harmed merely because you are among us on our planet?

[stork]

Have we heard of your home world Stork? Do you mind if I ask which it is?
Honestly I don't remember. I don't even remember my own name. And what I want to remember the most are my friends' names cuz I miss them so so much.
Here grew up in a cult I was taught if you love someone s/he becomes your weakness. It is the cult's way of making sure everyone is divided and easily conquered. But back in my world, I remember I was surrounded by friends and families that loved me wholeheartedly. I was so happy I laughed everyday not understanding what real suffering means. For us sufferings are from textbooks we read.
It is devastating to lose all the treasured memories of those who I deeply love and care about. And that happens to every human when they die/reborn. I have no words to even begin to describe how I feel about such enormous pain. I have a hard time wrapping my mind around how such crime is allowed to happen. Because we do not go to the easy answer 'xxx is evil'. We respect everyone as our equal and try very hard to understand the logic behind their actions. We believe that approach has a higher probability to achieve fairness. Sorry for the lengthy reply as I try to remember a name other memories got brought up.

Please note my replies maybe very slow as I notice it is easier to wait for the answers to form natually in my head instead of trying to form it myself. I apologize for the delays.

[Denise/Dizi]

I think your thoughts are much the same as many on this planet who do not believe this is the world in which they came from originally. I personally can not make that claim, but many do. We do appreciate that you are sharing your feelings and thoughts with us here.. And take your time, we're all hopefully going to be here awhile!

[stork]

Hi, welcome to the forum :)

So, is there any case at all where you allow some form of control? Like for example type of control where you won't allow your 2 yo child to run off under a car or something similar which will result in fatal injury or death?
I can not agree that phrase "learn from mistakes" can apply here.. but that is just me.

Thank you and nice to meet you Isserley :)
For example, a 2 yr old wants to run into a fire. We bring him very close to a fire but not too close to be harmed by it so he can learn from his pain. We do not just tell him you are not allowed to do this or that. That just confuses a child. Of course it takes great time and efforts to explain or try to persuade or make sense to any child, but we often enjoy the process. Human mostly do not have such time or energy and that is a shame.
So rule of thumb make sure they do not get hurt. A child is to be protected at all cost but also respected as an individual being. For us happy children = happy future. Abused children = painful future. It is common sense but not many human seems to realize that. How many of you remember being respected as a child instead of being told what to do like a little slave? A child slave will grow into an adult slave because his mind is imprisoned. Your education system mass produce slaves because students are almost never respected by their teachers.



and one more question - do you have a mission here on Earth and what is it?

I have missions. It did took forever to remember though lol.
This world is a huge cult built on many toxic beliefs. And a cult is supported by all of its loyal believers.
The main one being a society always needs to have a hierarchy. But how do you have any equality/freedom if you always have someone standing on top of you? It makes no sense. Only a cult will promote hierarchy to siphon all power to its leader. A cult leader is stealing energy from everyone under him. Most of you feel drained because of that.
I and many like me are here to dismantle the beliefs gently hoping to slowly bring the believers out of their own prison. It is sad the people we want to help the most will fight us the most. Although it seems to contradict our way of letting them harm themselves and learn from their mistakes. But human are clearly mind controlled so they are not even allowed enough thinking space to learn from their mistakes. Many almost never have a quite moment during their days to think about anything. Therefore we are free to intervene.


I hope you don't mind me asking, but why would you come to a world that is alienated from the others, if you are aware we are fairly stuck here, and defenseless (For the most part) against very hostile adversaries? It would seem that this would put the humans on this planet at great risk of being harmed merely because you are among us on our planet?

This is partially answered above. Your concern is right. An outsider may destabilize the system and cause pain to the locals. Although I do not think I have that much impact. Nevertheless I waited till now to speak out because the old system is due to crash again anyway. I merely hope to prevent human to build a doomed system again. I do not ask anyone to get into any harms way. Our advice is similar to the Chinese lying flat movement. Do the bare minimum to survive and let the machine go down on its own. We are fighting over beliefs there is no need for a rifle since you cannot shoot someone’s belief to death. This is proceeding extremely slowly and I’m sure most awakened ones are frustrated/exhausted by now. Again it is a balance thing, safety vs speed. However I do not want to offer any false hope. Human’s mind are quite powerful and stubborn. I can only try my best and hope for the best.

[gini]

What about God?Any need for religion ,spiritual hierarchy like angels,messiah's,saints..?.

[stork]

What about God?Any need for religion ,spiritual hierarchy like angels,messiah's,saints..?.

When you have a master, you are a slave. The concept of god is a huge problem. Because when it comes to god, I notice human throw away all their boundaries/dignities/self-respects. Such pattern is repeated everywhere in their life. They do not respect boundary of others when they believe they themselves are in an authority position. No one should ever follow someone unconditionally. You are never free if you must obey god or whoever happens to be wearing a similar hat. For us God/spiritual hierarchy is a mind control program.

We understand spiritual beliefs offer hope when someone is in distress and is powerless to fight back. However worshiping/obeying some deity does not help. If someone cares they will help without you begging/losing your dignity in the process. Equal exchange is fair. If someone more powerful helped, you can offer something in return but it should never be blind obedience.

Also the god thing works terribly on an energetic level. If you believe someone has more power than you. You are empowering them. If you believe you yourself has power, you are empowering yourself. And when energy flow from someone with lower power to someone with higher power, it is an inverted energy flow that corrupts their core. In the long run, both the worshipers and the worshiped will be corrupted. That is why some religious fanatics are seemingly out of their mind. And a lot of gurus turned into cult leaders in the end because they are slowly and inevitably corrupted by their followers. They may started as an enlightened person but if they are not careful and receiving energy/money/resources from people weaker than them more than their fair share, they will be corrupted. We treat everyone equally not because we are noble but because we do not want to be corrupted by the inverted power. The energy flow from powerful to powerless is natural power and will uplift both. So helping human helps us too. We are not in the business of charity but advocates of freedom, boundaries, and self-respect. The only thing a slave with an imprisoned mind need to learn to liberate themselves is self-respect. However I realize self-respect is a privilege not everyone can afford it so any tiny step towards more freedom is good enough.
I suspect human's god started as a kind and helping spirit but was slowly corrupted by the inverted energy. And this world is obviously created by the inverted energy because everything seems upside down.
Feel free to verify and test if it is true when people in religions/spiritual relationships are not setup as equals it will cause more damage than good.. We do not care which deity/guru you go to for comfort all we ask is for you to hold on to your own power do not feed/admire/worship/follow/obey them it is bad for both of you.

[Isserley]

So rule of thumb make sure they do not get hurt. A child is to be protected at all cost but also respected as an individual being. For us happy children = happy future. Abused children = painful future. It is common sense but not many human seems to realize that. How many of you remember being respected as a child instead of being told what to do like a little slave? A child slave will grow into an adult slave because his mind is imprisoned. Your education system mass produce slaves because students are almost never respected by their teachers.

Very smart and meaningful answer.. it is the truth - many parents / teachers do not have the knowledge or time for such education of children and it is certainly a fact that we have all more or less been brought up in the wrong way.
Now we have a difficult task to correct this.

If you don't have a religion formed as a cult, do you have any other kind of spirituality - faith in a higher realm of existence, a source that created all this?

[grapevine]

Hi stork - a warm welcome to the forum!

I'm a visitor here too; I guess we all are . . . In my home world, there's no written law but experience has shown me that the one word which describes life here on Earth is - Overcoming.

From the time we're born until the time we die here we're all required to overcome an exhaustive number of problems, pitfalls, obstacles, dead-ends, etc. which is very difficult to maintain equilibrium or balance for any length of time. I'd grade my life to date (loosely) as:

50% aggravation, 20% frustration, 20% wonderful and 10% ecstatic - and I've had a pretty good life compared to many others.

But the oddest thing is that nearly all of life's experiences revolve around other human beings, which perhaps says everything . . .
:laughs:

[Bill Ryan]

Hi stork - a warm welcome to the forum! Yes indeed — a very warm welcome to you. :highfive:

I wonder if you (@stork) might take a quick look at this thread of mine:


Two ET civilizations: speculations to consider (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120829-Two-ET-civilizations-speculations-to-consider)

The first of those, very much a utopian society but one that's still 'human enough' for us to understand, might bear some similarities to the one you've been describing.

[stork]

If you don't have a religion formed as a cult, do you have any other kind of spirituality - faith in a higher realm of existence, a source that created all this?

I assume by spirituality you means something above and beyond.
Human lives in an illusion. They're confused therefore they often look up searching for answers, mainly who they are, and why they are here.
We know our role and are already doing it. We mostly spend our energy looking at lower existences to see if we can do anything to support them. Since it is very important for us that energy flows naturally from high to low or between equal forces, never from low to high as it breaks the balance. Our strength grow with experiences we do not go out of our way to seek power/knowledge. If we have extra time we do nothing or play.

We have faith in human and in each other. Our faith goes down/around not up.

All human come from the same source. The one. It splits into many many parts probably as a way of knowing oneself. As the little ones gain more awareness so does the big one. The one is more or less synced with the collective. We view the Bigger source the same, it is not all knowing all powerful it evolves with us simultaneously. As above so below. The one is created for a purpose, just like all of us. As you search for your individual purposes and evolve as one, your collective purpose will be revealed. I am excited to see what it is.

Overall we care very little and know very little about spirituality as we focus more on our reality. I think many human turn to spirituality because their reality is difficult and they'd rather not to focus on it. There are exceptions such as shamans/psychics who acts as bridges of worlds. For them spirituality is a means to an end. But for many others it is a painkiller that won't solve any of their real problems. Many seem use it to escape to a fairyland and refuse to come back. However that’s okay you are free to do anything you feel is right for you. Other's opinions, our opinion don't matter. You do not need anyone's approval. Of course if you are already too self-centered you need to care about other's opinions more. We do not promote one way or another we promote balance.

Thank you all for the great questions. Many are key matters I wanted to express but unclear how to start since I'm not good at organizing my thoughts. You all helped the message to flow more easily and for that I'm utterly grateful. Collaboration is key. We cannot help you without you helping us. They cannot harm you without you helping them. But whatever happens do not blame yourself it takes two to dance and you have done your best.

[stork]

You are not the first that expressed that to me similarly. My default questions I have (so please do not this personally) are:

A. you do not want to remember
B. you really do not remember (How so? ... What happened?)
C. maybe multiple personality disorder aka dissociative identity disorder
after experiencing severe trauma that can explain memory loss of part of a personality that is active right now.
D. or is it something else?
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

Do you remember your other lifetimes? Every human has amnesia many just do not know it.
But how it is done I’m not 100% certain. Memories are linked, if a certain link is severed that portion of memory is seemingly lost, however it is still there waiting to be reconnected. There are many ways to sever the link such as electroshock/torture/drugs, but generally memory loss is for mind control. Once you lost your identity you will be whoever they told you to be.



Hi stork - a warm welcome to the forum! Yes indeed — a very warm welcome to you. :highfive:

I wonder if you (@stork) might take a quick look at this thread of mine:


Two ET civilizations: speculations to consider (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120829-Two-ET-civilizations-speculations-to-consider)

The first of those, very much a utopian society but one that's still 'human enough' for us to understand, might bear some similarities to the one you've been describing.
Thank you. I'm highly sensitive to energies and I truly feel safe and welcomed here.:o

There is no such thing as Utopia. It maybe hard to believe but for us all civilization are equal. Yours is no worse/better than ours. It is impossible not to be. All creations are equal.
I’m embarrassed to say our kind are actually quite violent, short fused and impatient. We have strong emotions that could sometimes be disastrous. A perfect world is a red flag to us because they are hiding their shadow side.
Balance is not our invention. It is how things are we simply try to go with the flow to meet the least amount of resistance because we are also lazy and love to just lay back and watch other interesting lifeforms. Human are interesting too. One of the most interesting and we do not judge your civilization in any way. You are not primitive, chaotic beings. You were severely abused and you tried everything in your power to survive. In fact we consider ourselves more primitive since we usually act instinctively rather than rationally. We can be quite unpredictable/boundless at times. You have a great civilization that have achieved countless miracles. Compare to that we are far far behind. You do not need to admire other civilizations you need to give yourself more credit.
There are many details to look into when you try to improve your world, my only advice is to make sure all great things can be accessed by people who need it the most. Not behind a pay-wall or some special privileges. The rest is entirely your decision human are much greater creator than us.

The entire universe knows human is the most resilient race with no one will ever even come remotely close. Your reputation precedes you and everyone out there is rooting for your freedom and they can't wait to come here to visit you. You should be very proud instead of doubting yourself.


I hope you don't mind me asking, but why would you come to a world that is alienated from the others, if you are aware we are fairly stuck here, and defenseless (For the most part) against very hostile adversaries?

I’d like to add more to this question since it is not entirely because I have a mission to help. Everything we do there is something in it for us as we firmly believe in fairness and mutual benefits.
One personal reason is I have human friends in my world and I had a hard time connecting to them because I do not comprehend the depth of their pain.
Another personal reason is certain faction took something important from me and use it as an leverage to force me into this mess. I love to help but I’m scared of this place too. I’m compassionate but not suicidal. Earth is too overwhelming/limiting for us. In fact I’m not even suitable for this mission but others who are much smarter than me have a much lower chance of surviving the harsh condition here so I got the short end of the stick.
So do not divide other races into benevolent/malevolent. Every race has two sides just like you. Be aware of races who only show you their good side. They are lying or lacking ability to self-reflect.

[gini]

Thanks Stork for your uplifting answers,they sound logical & selfexplainatory. -

How do you live? tribally in villages ,dwellings,cities ?

How you make sure everybody has all its basic needs sorted.?

Do you have shortages or abundance ?Do you have money?

[stork]

Thanks Stork for your uplifting answers,they sound logical & selfexplainatory. -

How do you live? tribally in villages ,dwellings,cities ?
I live in a major city. Retired.


How you make sure everybody has all its basic needs sorted.?

Do you have shortages or abundance ?Do you have money?
Do you mean everybody around me? No one is under my care and I need very little to get by. I never started a family here since it complicates things too much. For me everything is quite abundant. I participate very little in the slave system with a small passive income. Kind of like a hermit.:o

The inverted energy flow creates shortage/poverty. And the natural energy flow creates abundance.
When one feel restricted there is usually inverted energy transfer going on. Because natural energy flow feel safe and relaxed. This simple rule can be used to check the energy flow of all relationships. 
Some may ask an obvious question why rich people are receiving inverted energy and having abundance.
In an inverted power transfer, the one receiving power is rapidly corrupted by it. They become the ones you called "evil". No one is evil by nature. The word evil is the word live reversed. It implies they live in an inverted way. And if they continue, they become more and more corrupted/evil. All abusive relationships escalate because of the inverted energy flow from the abused to the abuser. It is a lose lose game even the abuser is seemingly gaining power from the abused.
The one losing power is also corrupted by it but at a much slower pace. It is more likely for them to develop physical/mental illness. The law of Balance dictates the giving/receiving side will be affected differently. For the rich poverty happens spiritually. However poor people can also be spiritually poor if they try to compensate their shortage with inverted energy.
With that being said, evil can be cured by the natural energy flow. It is my hope all can be helped and no one is left behind.

You can be both spiritually and physically abundant if you practice the natural energy flow.
Someone more powerful offers to empower you, you empowering someone equal or someone less powerful (without self-sacrificing). These are all examples of natural energy flows that uplift both participants. However do not try to help more than you are capable of. Self-sacrificing is an injustice towards oneself. As many of you may have noticed, being nice does not always pay off.
I personally have already received a small amount of unexpected cash as I'm sharing these messages with you on this forum.

Sorry for my frequent edits, sometimes additional message came in at a much later time. Some messages even surprise myself because I didn't know those before. I'm glad I made this post that received these thoughtful or casual questions. And it shows how the natural energy flow works, as I share more I receive more. Feel free to test it and see if you receive good results. The problem is it is unlike a scale, energy transfer cannot be measured precisely. It takes lots of diligence to make sure it is fair and beneficial for all parties involved. True abundance both spiritually and physically is not an easy practice. And rich does not always mean financially. Everyone is rich in something and can share something that is uniquely theirs. We are all created equal.

[ExomatrixTV]

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I assumed you are talking about our current physical earth based lifetime, that is what almost all new people tend to talk about first ... not past life times.

So I misunderstood your writings, sorry for that.

In your introductory text, you did not allude to your past live(s) in specific terms.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[RunningDeer]

Welcome to Avalon, stork. https://i.imgur.com/LAk0Fum.gif

I’m enjoying the information and Q&A’s.

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[stork]

I assumed you are talking about our current physical earth based lifetime, that is what almost all new people tend to talk about first ... not past life times.

So I misunderstood your writings, sorry for that.

In your introductory text, you did not allude to your past live(s) in specific terms.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

I have amnesia of both.
In my current life. It would be your option C. I have DID with missing memories. So you are not mistaken at all. :bigsmile:
And I consider my home life a distant past life.

[Arcturian108]

Have we heard of your home world Stork? Do you mind if I ask which it is?
Honestly I don't remember. I don't even remember my own name. And what I want to remember the most are my friends' names cuz I miss them so so much.
Here grew up in a cult I was taught if you love someone s/he becomes your weakness. It is the cult's way of making sure everyone is divided and easily conquered. But back in my world, I remember I was surrounded by friends and families that loved me wholeheartedly. I was so happy I laughed everyday not understanding what real suffering means. For us sufferings are from textbooks we read.
It is devastating to lose all the treasured memories of those who I deeply love and care about. And that happens to every human when they die/reborn. I have no words to even begin to describe how I feel about such enormous pain. I have a hard time wrapping my mind around how such crime is allowed to happen. Because we do not go to the easy answer 'xxx is evil'. We respect everyone as our equal and try very hard to understand the logic behind their actions. We believe that approach has a higher probability to achieve fairness. Sorry for the lengthy reply as I try to remember a name other memories got brought up.

Please note my replies maybe very slow as I notice it is easier to wait for the answers to form natually in my head instead of trying to form it myself. I apologize for the delays.

Welcome to the Avalon Forum! I am just seeing your thread for the first time today, and am reviewing the whole thread to get a sense of who you are.
Since you mention that you cannot recall the names of your closest friends and relatives from your home world, have you thought to see a past-life regressionist? Beverly Cannon, now deceased, trained many people to do this work (me included), so you might be surprised at the results of experiencing a past-life regression. I am no longer practicing that gift, but I do recommend the experience highly. Through such work you might remember more about your home world, your own name, and the names of those important to you from there.

[Bill Ryan]

Have we heard of your home world Stork? Do you mind if I ask which it is?
Honestly I don't remember. I don't even remember my own name. And what I want to remember the most are my friends' names cuz I miss them so so much. It's very hard to remember personal names (especially those in an unfamiliar or unknown language!). Most past-life recollection is in the form of imagery and incidents with strong emotional impact or connection.

(For the same reason, in Remote Viewing it's almost impossible to read distant documents — Pat Price was the one celebrated exception that I know of — while perceiving details of images, events, what people look like, and big-picture generalities, is all far easier.)

:flower::focus:

[Isserley]

What is your view on the ideological divisions that have infested the Earth ("Western world")? I'm especially interested in your opinion on woke ideologies..

Earlier you wrote that the Earth is a prison and that essentially we are all here in N.Korea.
Do you mean the current physical body or do you think that when we die, the soul cannot go anywhere, but is trapped and forced to return indefinitely?

[wegge]

Have we heard of your home world Stork? Do you mind if I ask which it is?
Honestly I don't remember. I don't even remember my own name. And what I want to remember the most are my friends' names cuz I miss them so so much. It's very hard to remember personal names (especially those in an unfamiliar or unknown language!). Most past-life recollection is in the form of imagery and incidents with strong emotional impact or connection.

(For the same reason, in Remote Viewing it's almost impossible to read distant documents — Pat Price was the one celebrated exception that I know of — while perceiving details of images, events, what people look like, and big-picture generalities, is all far easier.)

:flower::focus:

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interesting insights from Tony Rodrigues and Dan Winter on remote viewing/getting downloads, it seems to happen in a very compressed manner and you slowly have to unpack it then with your conscious mind/intuition.

[stork]

have you thought to see a past-life regressionist? Beverly Cannon, now deceased, trained many people to do this work (me included), so you might be surprised at the results of experiencing a past-life regression. I am no longer practicing that gift, but I do recommend the experience highly. Through such work you might remember more about your home world, your own name, and the names of those important to you from there.
I had actually although I did not get a very clear past life. It was hard for me to go full into trance with someone I barely knew. But the result still fascinated me and offered quite a lot of insights.


What is your view on the ideological divisions that have infested the Earth ("Western world")? I'm especially interested in your opinion on woke ideologies..
I did not follow it that much. Usually I agree with the younger generation because they are psychically linked to the future. Their ideas may seem radical now but may become normal 10 years down the line. Of course it does not all come true. They are free to test it out and see what sticks. Time will show. The only measurement I would use is justice/balance.
Because each individual mind is divided, it will manifest everywhere on the outside world. Try to be as inclusive as possible is probably the best approach one can do.



Earlier you wrote that the Earth is a prison and that essentially we are all here in N.Korea.
Do you mean the current physical body or do you think that when we die, the soul cannot go anywhere, but is trapped and forced to return indefinitely?

I’m not sure if it is still the case. But many souls had been trapped here for many many lifetimes. They probably do not know they can leave because human are very trusting. Having whatever religious figures showing up to greet them after death they will probably follow them...That said their main methods are lies and manipulations. It is not that hard to see through if you are vigilant.

[Isserley]

Usually I agree with the younger generation because they are psychically linked to the future. Their ideas may seem radical now but...

And therein lies the problem - these are not their ideas, but they do embrace them in some capacity so there is that. Manipulation on every level.
But that is a completely different topic.
I truly hope that if something is out of balance, it'll fail eventually.

[stork]

Usually I agree with the younger generation because they are psychically linked to the future. Their ideas may seem radical now but...

And therein lies the problem - these are not their ideas, but they do embrace them in some capacity so there is that. Manipulation on every level.
But that is a completely different topic.
I truly hope that if something is out of balance, it'll fail eventually.
Yes I agree. ie having a trans woman in woman sports is obviously unfair (is that a woke ideology?). Any ideology that promotes unfair advantage over another group I'm always against it even it benefits me directly. I will gladly sacrifice my own interest for fairness. Not because I am selfless but because I know we are a collective such advantage is an illusion. In the long run injustice always fail both sides. While fairness will bring abundance to everyone including me. We do it because it benefits us, not because we are nice.;)
You should never be taught to be nice and kind. You should only be taught to be fair and just.
Most of your religious texts are toxic because it is against human nature to be all good. Being bad protects us. A person without a bad side is a nation without an army. She will be invaded and taken over.
Everything we do we have a good reason, not because we are trying to be good/evil. And you too should learn to look beyond that in all your conflicts. Focus on who benefits from it vs who gets hurt and try to reach a fair resolution. Not who's right vs who's wrong which will get nowhere because everyone is right in their own perspective.

[stork]

I would like to add something else that is obvious to us but may not be so obvious to human.
For a society, patriarchy is always doomed and matriarchy is the only way.

Men are the natural protectors and providers. This is their true calling. They enjoy war, conflict, fighting and sports. And there is nothing wrong with that. Such activities improve their ability to protect. However if put in charge, they will turn everything into a competition, make everyone feels they live in a rat race. A society is a big family, a family is about supporting each other not about out-performing each other. That is why a society run by men will fail everyone including men themselves.
Women are the natural care takers. They enjoy taking care of everyone that is why we always put women in charge. Of course this is not entirely gender specific. There are masculine woman and feminine man. But needless to say someone who does not enjoy taking care of people, no matter how intelligent, should never be put in charge of a society.

To have a perfect world is simple, everyone falls into their place like a jigsaw. To have a chaotic world is also simple, everyone falls into a place that is not designed for them. Although it is entirely possible humanity chose to experience chaos instead of harmony, I'm merely pointing out there could be another way. After that you are free to continue or change course. You should to be informed about the decisions you are making, which seems to be lacking on this planet.

[sunwings]

What are some tools you have used on your journey? meditation, visualisation, manifesting...etc

Do many people outside of this forum know about your understanding of the world?

[stork]

What are some tools you have used on your journey? meditation, visualisation, manifesting...etc
I cannot visualize or manifest. I don’t think I meditate either but I'm in my head a lot...
The tools helped me the most are skepticism and logic. I'm a rat in a maze. I'm searching for a way out not personal growth or becoming a better rat or whatever nonsense they taught me to believe. Many things human consider normal do not make any sense to me. But it may come from an internal memory of how it was done differently where I came from. Human have such memories too, it is an inner knowing that something is wrong. They just cannot pinpoint what it is.
I question a lot and search for the answers no matter where it leads me. A lot of times the truth hurts much more than the lies. So another great tool is courage.

I think by design I try not to have any advantage compare to a normal person so I can understand their struggles. A simulation can only generate useful results when all parameters are set as a close match as to the reality. However no matter how close a simulation is it is not the same as reality. I unconsciously operates in a more balanced way it does make life easier. So if you are asking what tool can make things easier for you. It is fairness. Do not try to gain advantage over anyone, do not let anyone taking advantage of you, just try to be fair to yourself and everyone else. Offer more if you are rich, take more if you are poor. The middle way is the easiest way. But then, finding balance itself is difficult. Life is a struggle one way or another.

At my current stage, what I consider most important for me to learn are 3 things - cult, hypnosis and healing.
Cult - the more I learn about any cult, the better I understand how this world works.
Hypnosis - the mass mind control are mostly done by hypnosis, the subliminal messages are everywhere. ie you have to be rich/famous/beautiful/successful/recognized/etc none of these are true. The more you understand hypnosis, specifically conversational hypnosis, the more you can arm yourself against the toxic subliminal suggestions.
Healing - that is a must for all human because all human are deeply traumatized to a level beyond my comprehension.


Do many people outside of this forum know about your understanding of the world?
No. This is the first time I try to share it and I am very grateful for this forum and its members. It offered a safe and inclusive space to express some of my radical views. And it had elevated my own understandings in a way I did not anticipate. At other places, usually thoughts do not flow in so I am quite surprised by how far our communication has went. It seems “they” like it here more than I do. I typically try to avoid human interactions because it is difficult and draining for me.
Again thank you all for the collaborations in this post.:highfive:

Everyone has tools that are uniquely theirs for them to discover. Stop believing what the programming told you to believe and start believing what it told you not to believe. You are all unique, you are all special and you are all incredibly valuable. These are not positive affirmations but solid facts as I'm only interested in speaking the truth. Every one of you is a unique piece of a grand jigsaw. Even with one piece missing it cannot be completed. And here I am offering my small piece.:flower: