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thepainterdoug
26th November 2024, 14:41
Hi All An unusual heath symptom, need your help

I have a friend who has been suffering from something for years now without solution or relief. He has tried everything from diet to acupuncture and various meds like gabapentin . I helped him check his wifi and 5 g levels in his house as well and doesn't seem to be the cause

He best explains it as being electrocuted or burned with acid under his skin. It's not topical but underneath and his pain and frustration has him scratching his arms to the point of blood.
He recently said he could easily see someone taking their life from this.

Has anyone ever had or heard of this ?

thanks all, and Happy Thanksgiving

Casey Claar
26th November 2024, 16:11
Hello, Doug.. I am so sorry to hear what your friend is going through. Although I have not heard before of the symptom you are describing, for me step one in any healing crisis is to stop eating. I then begin to clean out the colon through large volume enemas and employing parasite protocols. I may then begin to add liver flushes and other system cleanses. When I begin to eat again I do so slowly, with various electrolyte-rich waters, herbal teas, broths, fruit juices, vegetable juices. The process(es) could last months, or even years, depending on the extent of what needs to be cleared. There are some neuropathy symptoms that involve heat in the body, but 'burned with acid' sounds more extreme that what I have heard. Does your friend feel this at all times no matter his location? Are there times of the day it is better than worse? Is the level of the symptom remaining the same or is it escalating? Was there a process to its onset? ( can your friend describe this? ). I am filled with questions.

Bill Ryan
26th November 2024, 16:17
Has anyone ever had or heard of this ?

Might this be a kind of peripheral neuropathy? (https://www.ninds.nih.gov/health-information/disorders/peripheral-neuropathy) (But I have no experience at all in this area. :flower:)

A very brief search suggests that quite a few neuropathy sufferers are also diabetic, and so there may be a poorly-understood connection. Is your friend by chance a diabetic?

Mark (Star Mariner)
26th November 2024, 16:23
I had a friend years ago who had something like this. If memory serves, he said it was like ants crawling under his skin. He was rotten for many days in a row and mostly confined to bed. After a battery of tests they narrowed it down to lactose intolerance, or something like that. He gave up all dairy products and that solved the problem. I assume your friend has considered this, and already been tested, but I thought it worth mentioning..

grapevine
26th November 2024, 16:28
Definitely sounds like nerve pain, which is notoriously difficult to alleviate.

DrEric Berg on YT has loads of videos on neuropathy and I recall some of the otc meds he recommends are:

Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA)
Benfotiamine (a form of vitamin B1)
Tocotrienols (Vitamin E but not to be taken with tocopherols)
Here's a link to the relevant section on Neuropathy, Wouldnt hurt to take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/@Drberg/search?query=neuropathy

lake
26th November 2024, 17:31
snip....


He best explains it as being electrocuted or burned with acid under his skin. It's not topical but underneath

Many years .... no actually decades ago .... I felt much the same pain.

I had used a "sun bed" for the first time (of course I NEVER used one again) and it left me feeling much as you state (there was nothing to see but damn if I didn't feel like I was burning all over)!

Only relief I could get was to lie submerged in a very cold bath of water!

Maybe completely different and unrelated to your mate but "just putting the experience out there" .... I hope you/he/her can find the cause

:sherlock:

Sunny
26th November 2024, 19:03
I used to have something happen about once a month for a long time, that I would suddenly feel an intense burning sensation in my chest and sometimes my throat and abdomen. I would feel great fear and feel like I was going to start vomiting. I would have vomited if I had not taken something to stop it. Afterwards I would feel tired and wounded inside my chest, but otherwise OK. It did not seem to be from an illness. I didn't think it was heartburn. My theory was that someone was beaming frequencies in my neighborhood for some reason.

I used to immediately take Bach Rescue Remedy (to calm down a bodily emergency) with Bach agrimony (for suffering and the feeling of being tortured) and Bach mimulus (because I felt so much fear).. Also homeopathic Aconite 200C (because it was an intense respiratory condition coming on suddenly) and homeopathic Arsenicum Album 200C (for burning sensation and to avoid vomiting). It usually worked. The Aconite tended to work quickly for me, most other remedies can take 1/2 hour to kick in.

I am not recommending the same remedies for your friend, as it does not sound the same, but I think they should look into homeopathy, as it may very well have remedies for the sensations they are describing. There are lot of homeopathic professionals online that you can book a video consultation with right away.

Ricker
27th November 2024, 00:10
My wife describes hers as hot needles piercing her skin from the inside. Recent theory is Ankelosing Spondylitus. A degenerative joint disease that messes with her nervous system. Nephropathy? I think. On Gabapentin right now. That's the only way she can sleep at night.

Ricker

Vangelo
27th November 2024, 14:48
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Might this be a kind of peripheral neuropathy? (https://www.ninds.nih.gov/health-information/disorders/peripheral-neuropathy) (But I have no experience at all in this area. :flower:)

A very brief search suggests that quite a few neuropathy sufferers are also diabetic, and so there may be a poorly-understood connection. Is your friend by chance a diabetic?
My wife and kids have peripheral neuropathy and they have described the same symptoms. My daughter is also on gabapentin.

They are not diabetic but were born with the condition. Many folks who develop neuropathy do so as a result of diabetes.

There are tests a doc can perform to determine if you have it. One of the tests is to send electrical impulses through your skin and muscles and measure the results. It is an uncomfortable/painful test.

Anecdotally, if your friend has a very high pain tolerance or the reverse, a very low pain tolerance, then they may have it (my son has high tolerance and my daughter has very low tolerance).

Lastly, my wife and daughter also have POTS (https://www.ninds.nih.gov/health-information/disorders/postural-tachycardia-syndrome-pots). It is somehow related to their condition.

I hope this helps with your friend's search for answers.

thepainterdoug
27th November 2024, 16:11
THANKS VERY MUCH EVERYONE. Has anyone ever used red light therapy. Infa red light?

im hearing more about it as a treatment for a variety of issues

Casey Claar
28th November 2024, 00:25
THANKS VERY MUCH EVERYONE. Has anyone ever used red light therapy. Infa red light?

im hearing more about it as a treatment for a variety of issues

I have used the infra red laser beam pens. I don't have a lot of experience with them but when I have used them they worked almost miraculously, generally for pain.

One of my last care clients who suffers with neuropathy has a laser kit. She is very much into alternative healing therapies ( but also allopathy and pharmaceuticals ), she says the laser therapy helps her for hours after using it but that it does not address her difficulties in full, or for long. This said, she was very irregular with its use, is more than 50 pounds overweight, over 80 years of age, gets no exercise and no outdoor time ( /sun ) and is incredibly hooked on refined sugar.

Bill Ryan
28th November 2024, 02:48
THANKS VERY MUCH EVERYONE. Has anyone ever used red light therapy. Infa red light?

im hearing more about it as a treatment for a variety of issues

I have used the infra red laser beam pens. I don't have a lot of experience with them but when I have used them they worked almost miraculously, generally for pain.

One of my last care clients who suffers with neuropathy has a laser kit. She is very much into alternative healing therapies ( but also allopathy and pharmaceuticals ), she says the laser therapy helps her for hours after using it but that it does not address her difficulties in full, or for long. This said, she was very irregular with its use, is more than 50 pounds overweight, over 80 years of age, gets no exercise and no outdoor time ( /sun ) and is incredibly hooked on refined sugar.This may not be relevant here. But I have a Vielight (https://www.vielight.com/de//wp-content/uploads/2020/02/633-655-info-sheet-2020-fin.pdf)655nm red light (https://www.vielight.com/de//wp-content/uploads/2020/02/633-655-info-sheet-2020-fin.pdf)nasal laser (https://www.vielight.com/de//wp-content/uploads/2020/02/633-655-info-sheet-2020-fin.pdf).

These days I only use it in my jeep when driving to and from the mountains. The red laser light oxygenates the blood, which (I think!) helps when I regularly go up to 14,000 ft. (I live at 9,000 ft, but the mountains I hike in are a whole mile higher.)

It doesn't seem to be just a placebo effect. I have a small finger oximeter, and my naturopath tells me that my blood oxygen level is higher than any other expat here that he knows of. And as best I understand, a high blood oxygen level can have all kinds of health-supporting effects.

:focus:

Mike Gorman
28th November 2024, 07:26
Inflammation in the general sense, if the nerves are excited they fire off - the trick is to reduce the inflammation across the whole body 300 mg of Aspirin daily, mega doses of Vitamin C (a cardinal anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory) try 5,000 IU's daily, this could also be an allergic response to some agency, people these days appear to be reacting to multiple irritants.
I have suffered from a 'numb patch' over my left scapula, the flesh in this area constantly feels as if Lidocaine has been applied, and occasionally it 'burns' with an intense flair-up for a few minutes: I think this is a damaged nerve group, or 'pinched' neural bunch from the spinal link - from your friend's description he is feeling this nerve-like burning/itching more broadly. It is always very difficult prescribe treatments at a distance, but I would seek to reduce this 'provoked' inflammation on a systemic level.

Rizotto
28th November 2024, 08:21
Perhaps electro-sensitivity? Some 20 years ago I went through a distressing 6-month episode where I had tingling, burning skin sensation, headaches, severe insomnia, a very disturbing rumbling vibration at night, etc.

One specific time I was sitting at a table reading a newspaper next to a fluorescent light. I had this increasing sensation of burning on my lips, but dismissed that at the time as my imagination. A few hours later I had to admit that my lips indeed showed signs of light burns!

After 3 months it dawned on me that the cordless phone I had sitting next to my bed could be the culprit. The bases of cordless phones emit microwave radiation 24/7, which does impact our bodies at a cellular level. So, I got rid of the cordless phone and all other wireless devices. Fluorescent lights emit a significant electromagnetic field, so I also avoided those. Only then did the symptoms gradually decrease over a period of 3 months to a tolerable level. Decades later, I only sense faint rumblings prior to earthquakes and during solar storms.

Here's the theory I intuitively developed: We are beings of electricity, our bodies have an electromagnetic field, and being regularly subjected to a wireless device's electromagnetic field entrains the cells of one's body to another abnormal frequency, or some resonance phenomenon takes over one's field causing all sorts of biological disturbances. Does it make sense? Probably not! But by now I'm used to most people not believing I went through this.

However the solution worked: I avoid all wireless devices and try to avoid prolonged exposure to microwave towers etc. I know, it's not easy to do this in today's world. At the end of the day it's a matter of choosing one's priorities. Fortunately, I never had to go totally 'off electricity', like some people I heard about that it was their only way to get relief.

Best wishes to your friend. Perhaps in his case it's a combination of factors, and this could be one of them.

jaybee
28th November 2024, 11:54
THANKS VERY MUCH EVERYONE. Has anyone ever used red light therapy. Infa red light?

im hearing more about it as a treatment for a variety of issues

I have used the infra red laser beam pens. I don't have a lot of experience with them but when I have used them they worked almost miraculously, generally for pain.

One of my last care clients who suffers with neuropathy has a laser kit. She is very much into alternative healing therapies ( but also allopathy and pharmaceuticals ), she says the laser therapy helps her for hours after using it but that it does not address her difficulties in full, or for long. This said, she was very irregular with its use, is more than 50 pounds overweight, over 80 years of age, gets no exercise and no outdoor time ( /sun ) and is incredibly hooked on refined sugar.This may not be relevant here. But I have a Vielight (https://www.vielight.com/de//wp-content/uploads/2020/02/633-655-info-sheet-2020-fin.pdf)655nm red light (https://www.vielight.com/de//wp-content/uploads/2020/02/633-655-info-sheet-2020-fin.pdf)nasal laser (https://www.vielight.com/de//wp-content/uploads/2020/02/633-655-info-sheet-2020-fin.pdf).

These days I only use it in my jeep when driving to and from the mountains. The red laser light oxygenates the blood, which (I think!) helps when I regularly go up to 14,000 ft. (I live at 9,000 ft, but the mountains I hike in are a whole mile higher.)

It doesn't seem to be just a placebo effect. I have a small finger oximeter, and my naturopath tells me that my blood oxygen level is higher than any other expat here that he knows of. And as best I understand, a high blood oxygen level can have all kinds of health-supporting effects.

:focus:


very interesting...thanks.... I hadn't thought of red light (+ infrared / near infrared) oxygenating the blood before and this sounds like a very promising DIY health aid....

I read the above post early this morning when it was still dark and as luck would have it I have recently bought this small red light torch...
Health Pain Relief Device Flashlight Red Light LED Infrared Lamp Body Therapy UK (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186475110624?_skw=Health+Pain+Relief+Device+Flashlight+Red+Light+LED+Infrared+Lamp+Body+Therapy+UK&itmmeta=01JDS5BV39A581JEKWYFJV3K4H&hash=item2b6ac860e0:g:QyAAAOSwSwNlr5cY&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAABMHoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlLfHRa06%2Fcha5YHVRAJQHqyHx%2BencRv5uT%2FsqdBDaB2Y2w%2B JdmlyCuDM6%2FiFYVNijOb2O5%2FnQkt%2BtwXjpUdRpaurt8Km8djRcpqiAbw6IL3VCG3JEMfMkBczR5CYAxQtDY5L%2BAR5g5M kCpOBO6XwYRCwFW5a5KxRtuh8RvG22ZdyT%2BBqThQpP2U3izuEHN983HQuGQfymSzXg1Rym2IqteplWlFLDzmB9MWQddXwRB47T tS6rBKZ0s55TqyYjBvXsf%2BXZvV3GRCvzK%2FNRLwjCj3usaUwKGYE7iPxJuxSjuEcPo16iTtu7eKj%2BCS1uzfKqsw8Z8QRuP1 8F6oPoWIEcXPdv8Bmh%2BvOiiQrXRRNDutWDUf1%2BxiRQ2%2Ftgc13W5VfM%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBM4rGvpe5k)....off ebay .... I've used it a bit - like on my thumb the other day when it suddenly developed arthritic (gouty) pain and it helped, I think - the pain had gone the next day...

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So anyway - back to this morning - when I read about the nasal 'Vielight' I thought about the little Red Light Torch I had and of course it's too big to put up your nose :) but working along the same principle of getting the red light to an area of blood capillaries that are closer to the surface and more accessible...I put it in my mouth and lifted my tongue to let it go there... substances put under the tongue go quicker into the system, I believe.... I had a bit of a tension headache building up and I do think it helped to get rid of it after about 3 - 5 minutes...

So now, in the dark of early morning (while also wearing my new Blue Light Blocking glasses, I might add :) ) I'm getting well into thoughts about the health benefits of using red light - to oxygenate the blood and I thought about how it could also help heal the nervous system as well ....this is connecting with the OP post ....

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Now I'm going to get into some far out speculation .... I've always suspected that the Ceremonial Beard used in Ancient Egypt (on statues and art work of deities and by Pharaohs) wasn't just cosmetic and decorative but had a practical purpose - a technological function.... I'm doing some research (on and off) into the subject and to cut it down for this post - the 'beard' contraption was made of metals like gold or silver and also semi precious (and precious??) stones.... there are major nerve endings in the area of the chin that come from deep in, and travel to and from the brain....

info on the Trigeminal nerve ( https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/21581-trigeminal-nerve).... that has 3 main branches.... illustration on link...

So after using the red light torch in my mouth (and shining it through my hands for a while -) I shine it on my chin - right on it, torch touching it - - - something different happened - it triggered something and I went into the 'zone' (the kundalini zone?).... I felt emotional and tears squeezed out of my eyes - it was like a release and I think the red light was doing something to the branch of the trigeminal nerve going into my brain and maybe into the Pineal Gland...

I think the 'false beard' or the 'ceremonial beard' that the Pharaohs (and Deities) wore was probably a contraption that communicated with another dimension (via the Pineal Gland?)..... I might do a thread on it soon....

But the long and the short of it for now is that shining red light deep into the chin area.... (and another main branch of the Trigeminal nerve goes around the nose area) - - - could help regulate and heal major nerve paths.... maybe that's something the subject of the OP could experiment with....?

arjunaloka_official
28th November 2024, 20:41
If I get it right, so far the suggested solutions mainly focussed on reliefing bodily symptoms, which of course is legitimate.

Regarding the root cause, I believe all diseases originate from the mind. There must be some conflict, argument, stress, missing job promotion, bad relationship or no relationship (but wanting one), fear or any other mental imbalance or negative emotion. Something that has been consistently around for years, but which is either consciously or unconsciously surpressed. Your friend could know what it is if you ask him directly, or your friend could meditate about it. Also praying for signs and pointers could help.
Identification of the root cause might bring relief, because then the issue moves from subconsciousness to consciousness, hence no more need to manifest bodily.
I hope your friend will get well soon!