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freedave
29th November 2024, 23:45
A fundamentally new and different software has been in development for more than 20 years. It is FAR closer to the true concept of AI. It will replace almost all existing software within a few years and provide an uncensored communications platform for vital data that has been suppressed. Very big players have recently committed to infusing billions into this VERY soon with money in transit as I write this. If you look into this you will discover that it is real. I have data for you and anyone who wishes to change the world . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Strat
29th November 2024, 23:56
Welcome to Avalon

Why not share your data here freely on the forum? It would be easier than individually emailing folks. We have a members only section that's not open to the public if you'd prefer to keep it under wraps for now.

What language is it written in? Which 'big players' are invested? Why is a billion dollar software taking 20 years? I'd like to change the world but I need to know more first. However with all due respect, I prefer to speak openly here, I'm not interested in an email exchange.

Matthew
30th November 2024, 00:20
Hi Dave, we are a highly suspicious group. Welcome nevertheless. So many red flags though, as well as basic questions that Strat asked. You should buy us dinner first, or laugh at our jokes a bit, before you try to lead us into your email. You come across as a clever bloke I have a feeling you could add to conversations in and around the forum. This might not be the social media campaign result you were looking for but stay a while and chat with us.

freedave
30th November 2024, 04:52
Thanks for your response, Strat. I'm a team member for this company, and I don't have authorization to use the company name broadly. And I suspect I might not have authorization to specify the "big players" in a forum like this. I'm new to this forum and don't know how to get to the members only section.

This was originally developed using Java but now has its own language (script). It has taken 20+ years to develop because it is a full revision of the basic structure of existing software, eliminating around 160 crucial irrationalities in computing going back decades to the early days. It is many times more powerful, flexible, user-friendly, and uses far fewer resources than current software.

Very good that you'd like to change the world. We have that in common. I understand your reluctance to engage in an email exchange, but I can answer almost any questions in this forum . . . davekushin@gmail.com

freedave
30th November 2024, 05:11
Hi Dave, we are a highly suspicious group. Welcome nevertheless. So many red flags though, as well as basic questions that Strat asked. You should buy us dinner first, or laugh at our jokes a bit, before you try to lead us into your email. You come across as a clever bloke I have a feeling you could add to conversations in and around the forum. This might not be the social media campaign result you were looking for but stay a while and chat with us.

Hi Matthew, I understand the suspicion, having researched conspiracy-related data for MANY years, I have found most of it to consist largely of misinformation, self promotion, and controlled opposition, to say nothing of the blatantly lying mainstream. Yes, I feel that I could add something of value, and I appreciate your welcome . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Harmony
30th November 2024, 05:51
Welcome to the forum freedave :stars: Take your time to familiarise yourself with the forum. The members only section can be found here. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?114-Members-Only) You can check out the forum thread index page using the second button along the toolbar at the top of each page. The FAQ's and help circular button is at the right hand top of each page and a place to practice or ask any questions you might have::sun:
Sandbox thread: OK to practice posting here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14962-Sandbox-thread-OK-to-practice-posting-here)


Let staff know if you would like this thread moved to the Members Only section.

Strat
30th November 2024, 06:20
Thanks for your response, Strat. I'm a team member for this company, and I don't have authorization to use the company name broadly. And I suspect I might not have authorization to specify the "big players" in a forum like this. I'm new to this forum and don't know how to get to the members only section.

This was originally developed using Java but now has its own language (script). It has taken 20+ years to develop because it is a full revision of the basic structure of existing software, eliminating around 160 crucial irrationalities in computing going back decades to the early days. It is many times more powerful, flexible, user-friendly, and uses far fewer resources than current software.

Very good that you'd like to change the world. We have that in common. I understand your reluctance to engage in an email exchange, but I can answer almost any questions in this forum . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Thank you for your reply.

May I ask what your role is in the company? Regardless, this certainly sounds revolutionary. Please keep me in mind if you wish (or get permission) to release information regarding the physical code, sponsors and the name of the company.

Maybe a silly question but in what way will this create a positive impact in the world? When you say 'change the world' what do you have in mind? That can be interpreted in different ways.

Hamish
30th November 2024, 13:04
A fundamentally new and different software has been in development for more than 20 years. It is FAR closer to the true concept of AI. It will replace almost all existing software within a few years and provide an uncensored communications platform for vital data that has been suppressed. Very big players have recently committed to infusing billions into this VERY soon with money in transit as I write this. If you look into this you will discover that it is real. I have data for you and anyone who wishes to change the world . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Hello,

Some questions if you do not mind me asking.

1) What makes this software fundamentally different from existing AI and software technologies?
2) How does it ensure data privacy and security, especially if it's aiming to be an uncensored platform?
3) What industries or sectors do you anticipate will be most affected by this software?
4) Have any pilot or beta tests been conducted? If yes, what were the results?
5) How is the funding being structured? Equity, debt, grants, or another form?
6) How will the transition or migration from current systems to this new software be managed?
7) Is there a way to witness a live demonstration or get hands-on experience with the software?

Kind regards,

freedave
30th November 2024, 18:06
Thanks for your response, Strat. I'm a team member for this company, and I don't have authorization to use the company name broadly. And I suspect I might not have authorization to specify the "big players" in a forum like this. I'm new to this forum and don't know how to get to the members only section.

This was originally developed using Java but now has its own language (script). It has taken 20+ years to develop because it is a full revision of the basic structure of existing software, eliminating around 160 crucial irrationalities in computing going back decades to the early days. It is many times more powerful, flexible, user-friendly, and uses far fewer resources than current software.

Very good that you'd like to change the world. We have that in common. I understand your reluctance to engage in an email exchange, but I can answer almost any questions in this forum . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Thank you for your reply.

May I ask what your role is in the company? Regardless, this certainly sounds revolutionary. Please keep me in mind if you wish (or get permission) to release information regarding the physical code, sponsors and the name of the company.

Maybe a silly question but in what way will this create a positive impact in the world? When you say 'change the world' what do you have in mind? That can be interpreted in different ways.

Thanks again for your interest, Strat. I am a part-time volunteer team member, which means I don't get paid in money, but I have earned shares and share options for my contributions. I have written many articles which have gone out to the hundreds of team members (mostly also volunteer). I have also brought in several other volunteer team members and have helped in other ways. I normally spend around five hours a week on this.

Yes, it will be revolutionary. I have emailed someone in the company to find out what data I can give you regarding your points of inquiry.

There are several ways this will this create a positive impact in the world. Current technology is increasingly computer-driven, so making that more efficient will result in far more production of things of value. Creating a censorship-free platform will help expose the powers that shouldn't be and enable the release of suppressed technology. This will be affordable and very user-friendly for impoverished peoples and will even enable many of them to create and sell their own apps.

Of course, 'change the world' means bettering conditions in all areas . . .

I hope that helps . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Hamish
30th November 2024, 18:37
Hello,

Further to my post above, I have a further question, is your comments relating to https://exotech.bm?

Kinf regards,

freedave
30th November 2024, 19:18
Thank you, Harmony. I appreciate your help . . . freedave

freedave
30th November 2024, 19:24
I will try to find out if I authorized to respond to that . . . davekushin@gmail.com

HopSan
30th November 2024, 20:00
A fundamentally new and different software has been in development for more than 20 years. It is FAR closer to the true concept of AI. It will replace almost all existing software within a few years and provide an uncensored communications platform for vital data that has been suppressed. Very big players have recently committed to infusing billions into this VERY soon with money in transit as I write this. If you look into this you will discover that it is real. I have data for you and anyone who wishes to change the world . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Thanks Dave, I have a short 'opinion'.

You have been fooled, completely.

AI in any form is not happening -- at all.

If it were, military would have it, no one would talk about it, and we would be slaves.

HopSan
30th November 2024, 20:12
Thanks Dave, I have a short 'opinion'.

You have been fooled, completely.

AI in any form is not happening -- at all.

If it were, military would have it, no one would talk about it, and we would be slaves.

A stronger version of that thought:

If any alien group in the whole universe had AI, we would already be slaves. We are not.

Point: If one had it, many would have it, and one of many would be evil.

Point 2: And the most evil would be most motivated to advance 'AI'.

freedave
30th November 2024, 20:42
A fundamentally new and different software has been in development for more than 20 years. It is FAR closer to the true concept of AI. It will replace almost all existing software within a few years and provide an uncensored communications platform for vital data that has been suppressed. Very big players have recently committed to infusing billions into this VERY soon with money in transit as I write this. If you look into this you will discover that it is real. I have data for you and anyone who wishes to change the world . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Hello,

Some questions if you do not mind me asking.

1) What makes this software fundamentally different from existing AI and software technologies?
2) How does it ensure data privacy and security, especially if it's aiming to be an uncensored platform?
3) What industries or sectors do you anticipate will be most affected by this software?
4) Have any pilot or beta tests been conducted? If yes, what were the results?
5) How is the funding being structured? Equity, debt, grants, or another form?
6) How will the transition or migration from current systems to this new software be managed?
7) Is there a way to witness a live demonstration or get hands-on experience with the software?

Kind regards,

Hello Hamish,

1) Current AI and software group data together and manipulate date illogically and robotically. This is a whole new way of categorizing and handling data intelligently the way a human does.
2) I don't have the details, but I understand it will be far less hackable.
3) Those that are most computerized. The capability of dealing with invoices has been extremely attractive to the big investors.
4) A small test of an earlier version produced very good results. An even earlier rudimentary version produced dramatic business results.
5) Mainly equity and bonds.
6) I don't have the details, but I understand it will not be difficult.
7) If you submit a non-disclosure agreement you can receive a VIDEO demonstration. No hands-on experience until it is released or you become a member of the team.

I hope that helps . . . davekushin@gmail.com

freedave
30th November 2024, 20:46
Thank you, HopSan.

This is the solution to the evil use of AI . . .

davekushin@gmail.com

Listkov
30th November 2024, 20:53
Hello,

Further to my post above, I have a further question, is your comments relating to https://exotech.bm?

Kinf regards,

54112

looks like something from 1997

Strat
1st December 2024, 07:14
Thanks for your response, Strat. I'm a team member for this company, and I don't have authorization to use the company name broadly. And I suspect I might not have authorization to specify the "big players" in a forum like this. I'm new to this forum and don't know how to get to the members only section.

This was originally developed using Java but now has its own language (script). It has taken 20+ years to develop because it is a full revision of the basic structure of existing software, eliminating around 160 crucial irrationalities in computing going back decades to the early days. It is many times more powerful, flexible, user-friendly, and uses far fewer resources than current software.

Very good that you'd like to change the world. We have that in common. I understand your reluctance to engage in an email exchange, but I can answer almost any questions in this forum . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Thank you for your reply.

May I ask what your role is in the company? Regardless, this certainly sounds revolutionary. Please keep me in mind if you wish (or get permission) to release information regarding the physical code, sponsors and the name of the company.

Maybe a silly question but in what way will this create a positive impact in the world? When you say 'change the world' what do you have in mind? That can be interpreted in different ways.

Thanks again for your interest, Strat. I am a part-time volunteer team member, which means I don't get paid in money, but I have earned shares and share options for my contributions. I have written many articles which have gone out to the hundreds of team members (mostly also volunteer). I have also brought in several other volunteer team members and have helped in other ways. I normally spend around five hours a week on this.

Yes, it will be revolutionary. I have emailed someone in the company to find out what data I can give you regarding your points of inquiry.

There are several ways this will this create a positive impact in the world. Current technology is increasingly computer-driven, so making that more efficient will result in far more production of things of value. Creating a censorship-free platform will help expose the powers that shouldn't be and enable the release of suppressed technology. This will be affordable and very user-friendly for impoverished peoples and will even enable many of them to create and sell their own apps.

Of course, 'change the world' means bettering conditions in all areas . . .

I hope that helps . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Thank you for emailing the company regarding my questions, I appreciate that.

Do you ever physically go to their offices? How did you find out about this? How many people are employed by this company, how many volunteers?

Why did you come to Avalon to speak about this? What other forums have you gone to to do the same?

You mentioned earlier no hands on use until youre a team member. What do people have to do to become a team member?

Hamish
1st December 2024, 12:01
A fundamentally new and different software has been in development for more than 20 years. It is FAR closer to the true concept of AI. It will replace almost all existing software within a few years and provide an uncensored communications platform for vital data that has been suppressed. Very big players have recently committed to infusing billions into this VERY soon with money in transit as I write this. If you look into this you will discover that it is real. I have data for you and anyone who wishes to change the world . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Hello,

Some questions if you do not mind me asking.

1) What makes this software fundamentally different from existing AI and software technologies?
2) How does it ensure data privacy and security, especially if it's aiming to be an uncensored platform?
3) What industries or sectors do you anticipate will be most affected by this software?
4) Have any pilot or beta tests been conducted? If yes, what were the results?
5) How is the funding being structured? Equity, debt, grants, or another form?
6) How will the transition or migration from current systems to this new software be managed?
7) Is there a way to witness a live demonstration or get hands-on experience with the software?

Kind regards,

Hello Hamish,

1) Current AI and software group data together and manipulate date illogically and robotically. This is a whole new way of categorizing and handling data intelligently the way a human does.
2) I don't have the details, but I understand it will be far less hackable.
3) Those that are most computerized. The capability of dealing with invoices has been extremely attractive to the big investors.
4) A small test of an earlier version produced very good results. An even earlier rudimentary version produced dramatic business results.
5) Mainly equity and bonds.
6) I don't have the details, but I understand it will not be difficult.
7) If you submit a non-disclosure agreement you can receive a VIDEO demonstration. No hands-on experience until it is released or you become a member of the team.

I hope that helps . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Hello,

Thanks for responding. Looking at this so far, alot is being said about capabilities without showing what the company has. This in a time when every company who is dealing with anything stamped with "AI" is throwing it out to the public, via their own sites, like ChatGPT, Co-Pilot, Claude, to Huggingface, in which people can download models and use them on their own machine. Even if they still in the alpha/beta/ stage, we at least see via Youtube or their own sites, demostrations, such as Claude recent demonstraton attempting to control your computer, and or famous Neurallink.

If we are talking about Exotech, their page claims various capabilities but I see no video demontrations, despite the claim under their product sections "It would only take us a few months to launch ExoBrain II as a commercial product. We are not doing so for strategic reasons."


The Testimonials page reads like the rest of the site, alot of talk about capabilities but lack of any demonreations and details of the AI/software.

If the company could release a commerical product, why have they not? What is the stragetic reasons? And why can't they show the demontrations/Testimonials and why on earth would anyone need to sign a NDA to view a video?

As someone who is interested in tech and AI, Exo makes it very difficult just to understand what exactly they have that would make my life easier.

Kind regards,

freedave
1st December 2024, 20:29
You're welcome, Strat.

No, I do not physically go to their offices. I found out about this from a friend. I think there are somewhere around 20 paid people employed by the company and perhaps one hundred active volunteers. The number of paid employees is expected to expand dramatically when the investment funds I mentioned arrive at our bank, possibly within the next two weeks.

Since I'm a very long-time "conspiracy researcher," this new technology interested me as a way to expose the powers that shouldn't be and release suppressed technologies. This forum seems to align with that, especially the goal of changing the world. I've looked at several other forums but didn't do much with them. I did post to a Facebook group, promote your heart out or some such title.

To become a team member, one has to view a few short videos, be connected with a particular person within the company, submit a non-disclosure agreement, and get briefed on the technology.

I hope I am answering your questions . . . davekushin@gmail.com

freedave
1st December 2024, 20:52
A fundamentally new and different software has been in development for more than 20 years. It is FAR closer to the true concept of AI. It will replace almost all existing software within a few years and provide an uncensored communications platform for vital data that has been suppressed. Very big players have recently committed to infusing billions into this VERY soon with money in transit as I write this. If you look into this you will discover that it is real. I have data for you and anyone who wishes to change the world . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Hello,

Some questions if you do not mind me asking.

1) What makes this software fundamentally different from existing AI and software technologies?
2) How does it ensure data privacy and security, especially if it's aiming to be an uncensored platform?
3) What industries or sectors do you anticipate will be most affected by this software?
4) Have any pilot or beta tests been conducted? If yes, what were the results?
5) How is the funding being structured? Equity, debt, grants, or another form?
6) How will the transition or migration from current systems to this new software be managed?
7) Is there a way to witness a live demonstration or get hands-on experience with the software?

Kind regards,

Hello Hamish,

1) Current AI and software group data together and manipulate date illogically and robotically. This is a whole new way of categorizing and handling data intelligently the way a human does.
2) I don't have the details, but I understand it will be far less hackable.
3) Those that are most computerized. The capability of dealing with invoices has been extremely attractive to the big investors.
4) A small test of an earlier version produced very good results. An even earlier rudimentary version produced dramatic business results.
5) Mainly equity and bonds.
6) I don't have the details, but I understand it will not be difficult.
7) If you submit a non-disclosure agreement you can receive a VIDEO demonstration. No hands-on experience until it is released or you become a member of the team.

I hope that helps . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Hello,

Thanks for responding. Looking at this so far, alot is being said about capabilities without showing what the company has. This in a time when every company who is dealing with anything stamped with "AI" is throwing it out to the public, via their own sites, like ChatGPT, Co-Pilot, Claude, to Huggingface, in which people can download models and use them on their own machine. Even if they still in the alpha/beta/ stage, we at least see via Youtube or their own sites, demostrations, such as Claude recent demonstraton attempting to control your computer, and or famous Neurallink.

If we are talking about Exotech, their page claims various capabilities but I see no video demontrations, despite the claim under their product sections "It would only take us a few months to launch ExoBrain II as a commercial product. We are not doing so for strategic reasons."


The Testimonials page reads like the rest of the site, alot of talk about capabilities but lack of any demonreations and details of the AI/software.

If the company could release a commerical product, why have they not? What is the stragetic reasons? And why can't they show the demontrations/Testimonials and why on earth would anyone need to sign a NDA to view a video?

As someone who is interested in tech and AI, Exo makes it very difficult just to understand what exactly they have that would make my life easier.

Kind regards,

Hello again, Hamish.

I understand your concerns.

This is fundamentally different from current AI, which, contrary to its name. is not really intelligent. The strategy is not to release a product that is better than what is currently available but to release something that will sweep the market.

There are testimonials available but not on a public forum like this. Signing a NDA grants one much more than viewing a video.

We want people who really want to change the world . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Jim_Duyer
1st December 2024, 21:27
Hello,

Further to my post above, I have a further question, is your comments relating to https://exotech.bm?

Kinf regards,

54112

looks like something from 1997

And why is a smiling Carl Sagan depicted there? One of the founding members of the psy-ops club, in addition to being an esoteric atheist and a scientist like Tyson.

Jim_Duyer
1st December 2024, 21:29
A fundamentally new and different software has been in development for more than 20 years. It is FAR closer to the true concept of AI. It will replace almost all existing software within a few years and provide an uncensored communications platform for vital data that has been suppressed. Very big players have recently committed to infusing billions into this VERY soon with money in transit as I write this. If you look into this you will discover that it is real. I have data for you and anyone who wishes to change the world . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Hello,

Some questions if you do not mind me asking.

1) What makes this software fundamentally different from existing AI and software technologies?
2) How does it ensure data privacy and security, especially if it's aiming to be an uncensored platform?
3) What industries or sectors do you anticipate will be most affected by this software?
4) Have any pilot or beta tests been conducted? If yes, what were the results?
5) How is the funding being structured? Equity, debt, grants, or another form?
6) How will the transition or migration from current systems to this new software be managed?
7) Is there a way to witness a live demonstration or get hands-on experience with the software?

Kind regards,

Hello Hamish,

1) Current AI and software group data together and manipulate date illogically and robotically. This is a whole new way of categorizing and handling data intelligently the way a human does.
2) I don't have the details, but I understand it will be far less hackable.
3) Those that are most computerized. The capability of dealing with invoices has been extremely attractive to the big investors.
4) A small test of an earlier version produced very good results. An even earlier rudimentary version produced dramatic business results.
5) Mainly equity and bonds.
6) I don't have the details, but I understand it will not be difficult.
7) If you submit a non-disclosure agreement you can receive a VIDEO demonstration. No hands-on experience until it is released or you become a member of the team.

I hope that helps . . . davekushin@gmail.com

Hello,

Thanks for responding. Looking at this so far, alot is being said about capabilities without showing what the company has. This in a time when every company who is dealing with anything stamped with "AI" is throwing it out to the public, via their own sites, like ChatGPT, Co-Pilot, Claude, to Huggingface, in which people can download models and use them on their own machine. Even if they still in the alpha/beta/ stage, we at least see via Youtube or their own sites, demostrations, such as Claude recent demonstraton attempting to control your computer, and or famous Neurallink.

If we are talking about Exotech, their page claims various capabilities but I see no video demontrations, despite the claim under their product sections "It would only take us a few months to launch ExoBrain II as a commercial product. We are not doing so for strategic reasons."


The Testimonials page reads like the rest of the site, alot of talk about capabilities but lack of any demonreations and details of the AI/software.

If the company could release a commerical product, why have they not? What is the stragetic reasons? And why can't they show the demontrations/Testimonials and why on earth would anyone need to sign a NDA to view a video?

As someone who is interested in tech and AI, Exo makes it very difficult just to understand what exactly they have that would make my life easier.

Kind regards,

Hello again, Hamish.

I understand your concerns.

This is fundamentally different from current AI, which, contrary to its name. is not really intelligent. The strategy is not to release a product that is better than what is currently available but to release something that will sweep the market.

There are testimonials available but not on a public forum like this. Signing a NDA grants one much more than viewing a video.

We want people who really want to change the world . . . davekushin@gmail.com

What you describe sounds vaguely like what we call "fuzzy-logic". It can help to bring up seemingly disassociated topics and bring them into play, but an expansion of that train of thought is, indeed, a form of AI itself.

Strat
1st December 2024, 22:05
lC5lsemxaJo

Blastolabs
2nd December 2024, 00:24
Sounds like something that needs funding

freedave
2nd December 2024, 02:03
lC5lsemxaJo

Strat -- Is this supposed to imply that what I've been posting relates to a pyramid scheme?

freedave
2nd December 2024, 02:07
Sounds like something that needs funding

Not at all . . .

Strat
2nd December 2024, 02:15
lC5lsemxaJo

Strat -- Is this supposed to imply that what I've been posting relates to a pyramid scheme?

A bit of ribbing, don't take it personally.

I think you genuinely mean well but sir can you appreciate all the red flags? Lemme guess, there's someone wealthy at the top?

I know how annoying it is to have a stranger on the internet (me) say these things but I'm saying this from one human to another: I think you're being scammed. I know I come across like a jerk but I'm trying to help you get out now. Phase these people out of your life ASAP. They're dangling a carrot at the end of a stick for you and however many others believe what they're promising. The way the information is being presented is cookie-cutter, carbon copy scam or even cult like.

Maybe I'm wrong but I'll bet I'm right. I wish you well in your endeavors. :handshake:

freedave
2nd December 2024, 02:18
Jim_Duyer -- cleverly critical posts with no real substance . . .

freedave
2nd December 2024, 02:30
lC5lsemxaJo

Strat -- Is this supposed to imply that what I've been posting relates to a pyramid scheme?

A bit of ribbing, don't take it personally.

I think you genuinely mean well but sir can you appreciate all the red flags? Lemme guess, there's someone wealthy at the top?

I know how annoying it is to have a stranger on the internet (me) say these things but I'm saying this from one human to another: I think you're being scammed. I know I come across like a jerk but I'm trying to help you get out now. Phase these people out of your life ASAP. They're dangling a carrot at the end of a stick for you and however many others believe what they're promising. The way the information is being presented is cookie-cutter, carbon copy scam or even cult like.

Maybe I'm wrong but I'll bet I'm right. I wish you well in your endeavors. :handshake:

No -- No red flags. You changed your tune FAST. I have the data -- you don't have a clue . . . freedave

Strat
2nd December 2024, 03:34
My mind isn't closed or made up. Go ahead a post the data, if I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it.

Can you answer my guess? Is there a wealthy person running the show? A president of the company or CEO or something? And do you truly not see the pattern I'm talking about, and how it's consistent with a kind of 'culty' sort of MO? I say cult gently, I'm not stamping a label here that's not my opinion, just that it's swaying in that direction.

Hamish
2nd December 2024, 13:34
Hello,

Thanks for responding freedave, I think i would need to sign a NDA for any further questions I have, and at this time, i don't feel comfortable for this.

All the best and I hope it future, EXCOTech is open to giving the public further details of their software/hardware.

Kind regards,

Jim_Duyer
2nd December 2024, 15:30
Jim_Duyer -- cleverly critical posts with no real substance . . .

That's because you have the kinder, gentler Jim Duyer, who is trying to walk softly around someone that is new and should be welcomed as much as possible. If you request it, I will roll out the other version of Jim Duyer. I was merely pointing out that Sagan is not always the poster child that one might wish to put at the top of his advertising materials - unless, of course, that's the group that are behind this. I suspect that, most of the members mean well. And I do wish that your dreams become reality.

freedave
2nd December 2024, 16:26
My mind isn't closed or made up. Go ahead a post the data, if I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it.

Can you answer my guess? Is there a wealthy person running the show? A president of the company or CEO or something? And do you truly not see the pattern I'm talking about, and how it's consistent with a kind of 'culty' sort of MO? I say cult gently, I'm not stamping a label here that's not my opinion, just that it's swaying in that direction.

I don't see that your posts of yesterday and today are truly relevant. You posted a video implying that this is a pyramid scheme, but we would not accept money from anyone here even if offered. You posted about "red flags" without asking specifically about any specific "red flag." What difference does it make if there is there a wealthy person running the show? You write about an undefined "pattern" but present no real evidence for this "pattern." You use the vaguely derogatory term "cult" without specific definition or evidence. You advised me to stay away from a group of which you have no first-hand knowledge while I have years of first-hand knowledge.

Because of this, I would prefer that any further communication between you and I be done via email. If you are not willing to do this, so be it . . . . davekushin@gmail.com

freedave
2nd December 2024, 16:33
Hello,

Thanks for responding freedave, I think i would need to sign a NDA for any further questions I have, and at this time, i don't feel comfortable for this.

All the best and I hope it future, EXCOTech is open to giving the public further details of their software/hardware.

Kind regards,

OK, no problem, Hamish . . . davekushin@gmail.com

freedave
2nd December 2024, 16:36
Jim_Duyer -- cleverly critical posts with no real substance . . .

That's because you have the kinder, gentler Jim Duyer, who is trying to walk softly around someone that is new and should be welcomed as much as possible. If you request it, I will roll out the other version of Jim Duyer. I was merely pointing out that Sagan is not always the poster child that one might wish to put at the top of his advertising materials - unless, of course, that's the group that are behind this. I suspect that, most of the members mean well. And I do wish that your dreams become reality.

No disagreement about Sagan. And thank you for the good wishes . . . freedave

Strat
2nd December 2024, 21:14
I don't see that your posts of yesterday and today are truly relevant.
You're making bold claims and when bold claims are made they need to stand up to criticism.


You posted a video implying that this is a pyramid scheme, but we would not accept money from anyone here even if offered. You posted about "red flags" without asking specifically about any specific "red flag."
So you accept money elsewhere? Like the billions of dollars your company will be accepting shortly? You said there are hundreds of volunteers. You're working 5 hours per week (for years?), are they as well? How much do you figure you make working 5 hours at your job? Multiply that X however many volunteers you have and that's lots. Someone is making a lot of money and it's the head honcho.


You use the vaguely derogatory term "cult" without specific definition or evidence. You advised me to stay away from a group of which you have no first-hand knowledge while I have years of first-hand knowledge.
Like I said, I'm not totally labeling this a cult. I feel it's more just raw scam than anything else but like you said I have no first-hand knowledge. But I know **** when I smell it. Regarding my advice, fair enough. What you do is none of my business. I just strongly feel like you're getting the shaft and as a person who cares about others I think I should at least bring it up.

I told you I want to change the world for the better and I mean that. Is this company truly trying to do that? It smells to me like a business venture more so than a tool to help people. I personally like helping with micro loans for start up businesses in Africa. How will this help me? Efficient software already does this. You should just spill the beans but you're not. You're asking for private emails. You say you have data but you are giving us gibberish. I don't want to embarrass or fight with you, I'm telling you how this looks to me. I assume I'm not alone. When you say there's no red flags that throws me off. I would have expected you to say something like, "I can understand it looks that way but ______" But you didn't take this approach.



Because of this, I would prefer that any further communication between you and I be done via email. If you are not willing to do this, so be it . . . .
See what I mean? You don't wanna speak openly but privately. That's fishy to me. I can understand though, and I wont bug you if you don't want to engage. I will put in my input though as I see fit. If you don't want to deal with me (or others) you can block my messages. Click 'Settings' on the top right, then on the panel on the list you'll see an 'Ignore' list where you will have to add me. I hope you don't block me, I wont block you. Choice is yours.

Best of luck, I legit mean that.

Jim_Duyer
2nd December 2024, 21:16
Exotech.bm seems to extol, on various posts, the South African homelands, and speaks fondly of Elon Musk as well.
Stephen Ford of Exotec, in his "On The Future Of Robotics Over the Next ..." agrees with Elon Musk's fears about some forms of artificial intelligence advances - those that could eventually take over the world of humanity.

Elon Musk's AI company xAI has launched its application programming interface (API), officially letting developers integrate Grok into other applications. Musk announced the API launch on Monday, in addition to posting a link to the interface on the xAI website.

I went to X this morning and it has several, front-page advertisements concerning this new API and how developers should consider getting behind it.

Perhaps he is also, as normal, placing bets with other horses in the race, in this case an investment in Exotech? I wonder if we can connect that dot to the wealthy founder?

freedave
2nd December 2024, 23:04
I don't see that your posts of yesterday and today are truly relevant.
You're making bold claims and when bold claims are made they need to stand up to criticism.


You posted a video implying that this is a pyramid scheme, but we would not accept money from anyone here even if offered. You posted about "red flags" without asking specifically about any specific "red flag."
So you accept money elsewhere? Like the billions of dollars your company will be accepting shortly? You said there are hundreds of volunteers. You're working 5 hours per week (for years?), are they as well? How much do you figure you make working 5 hours at your job? Multiply that X however many volunteers you have and that's lots. Someone is making a lot of money and it's the head honcho.


You use the vaguely derogatory term "cult" without specific definition or evidence. You advised me to stay away from a group of which you have no first-hand knowledge while I have years of first-hand knowledge.
Like I said, I'm not totally labeling this a cult. I feel it's more just raw scam than anything else but like you said I have no first-hand knowledge. But I know **** when I smell it. Regarding my advice, fair enough. What you do is none of my business. I just strongly feel like you're getting the shaft and as a person who cares about others I think I should at least bring it up.

I told you I want to change the world for the better and I mean that. Is this company truly trying to do that? It smells to me like a business venture more so than a tool to help people. I personally like helping with micro loans for start up businesses in Africa. How will this help me? Efficient software already does this. You should just spill the beans but you're not. You're asking for private emails. You say you have data but you are giving us gibberish. I don't want to embarrass or fight with you, I'm telling you how this looks to me. I assume I'm not alone. When you say there's no red flags that throws me off. I would have expected you to say something like, "I can understand it looks that way but ______" But you didn't take this approach.



Because of this, I would prefer that any further communication between you and I be done via email. If you are not willing to do this, so be it . . . .
See what I mean? You don't wanna speak openly but privately. That's fishy to me. I can understand though, and I wont bug you if you don't want to engage. I will put in my input though as I see fit. If you don't want to deal with me (or others) you can block my messages. Click 'Settings' on the top right, then on the panel on the list you'll see an 'Ignore' list where you will have to add me. I hope you don't block me, I wont block you. Choice is yours.

Best of luck, I legit mean that.

If you REALLY want to change the world for the better, you will communicate to me via email . . . davekushin@gmail.com

freedave
2nd December 2024, 23:15
Exotech.bm seems to extol, on various posts, the South African homelands, and speaks fondly of Elon Musk as well.
Stephen Ford of Exotec, in his "On The Future Of Robotics Over the Next ..." agrees with Elon Musk's fears about some forms of artificial intelligence advances - those that could eventually take over the world of humanity.

Elon Musk's AI company xAI has launched its application programming interface (API), officially letting developers integrate Grok into other applications. Musk announced the API launch on Monday, in addition to posting a link to the interface on the xAI website.

I went to X this morning and it has several, front-page advertisements concerning this new API and how developers should consider getting behind it.

Perhaps he is also, as normal, placing bets with other horses in the race, in this case an investment in Exotech? I wonder if we can connect that dot to the wealthy founder?

I can't comment on those speculations. There are people who can but not on a forum like this. First step would be to communicate with me by email. That's the way it has to be . . . davekushin@gmail.com

freedave
3rd December 2024, 16:09
I don't see that your posts of yesterday and today are truly relevant.
You're making bold claims and when bold claims are made they need to stand up to criticism.


You posted a video implying that this is a pyramid scheme, but we would not accept money from anyone here even if offered. You posted about "red flags" without asking specifically about any specific "red flag."
So you accept money elsewhere? Like the billions of dollars your company will be accepting shortly? You said there are hundreds of volunteers. You're working 5 hours per week (for years?), are they as well? How much do you figure you make working 5 hours at your job? Multiply that X however many volunteers you have and that's lots. Someone is making a lot of money and it's the head honcho.


You use the vaguely derogatory term "cult" without specific definition or evidence. You advised me to stay away from a group of which you have no first-hand knowledge while I have years of first-hand knowledge.
Like I said, I'm not totally labeling this a cult. I feel it's more just raw scam than anything else but like you said I have no first-hand knowledge. But I know **** when I smell it. Regarding my advice, fair enough. What you do is none of my business. I just strongly feel like you're getting the shaft and as a person who cares about others I think I should at least bring it up.

I told you I want to change the world for the better and I mean that. Is this company truly trying to do that? It smells to me like a business venture more so than a tool to help people. I personally like helping with micro loans for start up businesses in Africa. How will this help me? Efficient software already does this. You should just spill the beans but you're not. You're asking for private emails. You say you have data but you are giving us gibberish. I don't want to embarrass or fight with you, I'm telling you how this looks to me. I assume I'm not alone. When you say there's no red flags that throws me off. I would have expected you to say something like, "I can understand it looks that way but ______" But you didn't take this approach.



Because of this, I would prefer that any further communication between you and I be done via email. If you are not willing to do this, so be it . . . .
See what I mean? You don't wanna speak openly but privately. That's fishy to me. I can understand though, and I wont bug you if you don't want to engage. I will put in my input though as I see fit. If you don't want to deal with me (or others) you can block my messages. Click 'Settings' on the top right, then on the panel on the list you'll see an 'Ignore' list where you will have to add me. I hope you don't block me, I wont block you. Choice is yours.

Best of luck, I legit mean that.

Late yesterday I received an email giving me permission to post this link:
https://exotech.bm/find-out-more-about-exotech/

This means I can be more open in my postings on this forum and not necessarily require communication via email.

Possibly this might help towards resolving some of your questions and concerns?

freedave
3rd December 2024, 16:21
Exotech.bm seems to extol, on various posts, the South African homelands, and speaks fondly of Elon Musk as well.
Stephen Ford of Exotec, in his "On The Future Of Robotics Over the Next ..." agrees with Elon Musk's fears about some forms of artificial intelligence advances - those that could eventually take over the world of humanity.

Elon Musk's AI company xAI has launched its application programming interface (API), officially letting developers integrate Grok into other applications. Musk announced the API launch on Monday, in addition to posting a link to the interface on the xAI website.

I went to X this morning and it has several, front-page advertisements concerning this new API and how developers should consider getting behind it.

Perhaps he is also, as normal, placing bets with other horses in the race, in this case an investment in Exotech? I wonder if we can connect that dot to the wealthy founder?

Again, late yesterday I received an email giving me permission to post this link:
https://exotech.bm/find-out-more-about-exotech/

This means I can be more open in my postings on this forum and not necessarily require communication via email.

Possibly it might be best to first look this over, and then I might be able to address your speculations or questions?

freedave
3rd December 2024, 16:28
Hello,

Thanks for responding freedave, I think i would need to sign a NDA for any further questions I have, and at this time, i don't feel comfortable for this.

All the best and I hope it future, EXCOTech is open to giving the public further details of their software/hardware.

Kind regards,

Hello again, Hamish.

Again, late yesterday I received an email giving me permission to post this link:
https://exotech.bm/find-out-more-about-exotech/

This means I can be more open in my postings on this forum and not necessarily require communication via email.

Possibly this might help towards resolving some of your questions or concerns.

And I can get answers to specific questions that I am not fully able to answer . . .

Hamish
3rd December 2024, 18:25
Hello,

Thanks for the link.

There is numerous videos on that page and I was hoping one would show me the demonstration of the software/hardware. Even a short clip of it. But I can't find any. It looks like these videos was creating using Stock videos and or using sites like https://invideo.io/

When i first found this site, it did not sit with me. Why the high secret attempts, contact via email, get a NDA and when once reviewed the videos, a Management Director of ExoTech will schedule a personal video meeting with Peter Warren using Zoom video conferencing technology, which requires a computer with audio and video capability.

This also raised my eyebrow:

https://i.ibb.co/1G2Nf84/Screenshot-2024-12-03-at-18-12-05-Introduction-to-the-CTB-on-Exo-Tech-mp4.png (https://ibb.co/WvKXWgR)

Something just not sit right with me.

Dennis Leahy
3rd December 2024, 19:27
Garbage-In = TRUE;

WHILE
Garbage-In = TRUE;
Garbage-Out = Garbage-In;
LOOP


It doesn't matter what programming language is used.

I think a much, much bigger problem in this instance is that if a benevolent, loving, high-integrity crew of programmers write a new AI scripting language and its AI algorithms, how in the hell are they going to get the Bad Guys to switch from using the AI that the Bad Guy programmers wrote?

I had a "conversation" with Microsoft's Bing AI, and it told me to check Snopes to verify the "info" I was given. Garbage!

AI can mean different things - all the way from a HAL 9000-like control of all processes, to a very limited scope software feature, like the ability to erase and replace objects in a photographic application. Why would Alphabet, Inc. (Google/CIA) use this new benevolent and truthful AI when they spent the time to write and deploy a Bad Guy empire-enriching AI? I can't even see the Bad Guys allowing an online AI platform to exist that yields the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Why would they? Further, the AI would need to be "intelligent" enough to filter through and reject all of the lies published as the truth - which may well be the lion's share of data published on a subject.

Strat
3rd December 2024, 20:21
Hello,

Thanks for the link.

There is numerous videos on that page and I was hoping one would show me the demonstration of the software/hardware. Even a short clip of it. But I can't find any. It looks like these videos was creating using Stock videos and or using sites like https://invideo.io/

When i first found this site, it did not sit with me. Why the high secret attempts, contact via email, get a NDA and when once reviewed the videos, a Management Director of ExoTech will schedule a personal video meeting with Peter Warren using Zoom video conferencing technology, which requires a computer with audio and video capability.

This also raised my eyebrow:

https://i.ibb.co/1G2Nf84/Screenshot-2024-12-03-at-18-12-05-Introduction-to-the-CTB-on-Exo-Tech-mp4.png (https://ibb.co/WvKXWgR)

Something just not sit right with me.

yikes

Respectfully, I'm out. I'll leave you to it freedave, after this post I wont be a bother anymore.

Here's my opinion: Peter Warren was a Scientologist for 15 years. He was sued by the SEC and had to pay $6 million for fraud. He 'exaggerated' his previous product like he is this one. His previous company was Exo-Brain, now it's ExoTech. I believe it's the same scam, he's just more careful now. And he's using what he learned in Scientology to scam people. He's making millions off of other people, he's a great speaker and salesman, but also a bs artist.

The product ExoTech is pushing sounds more or less like Siri. There's nothing revolutionary about it. And regarding it's coding or whatever it doesn't matter, it must conform to the CPU and every CPU does the same thing. It's like page 1 of any computing course that a computer isn't 'smart' it can only do certain things:
read data from memory, add two numbers, subtract one number from another, multiply two numbers, divide one number by another, move data from one memory location to another, determine if one value is equal to another, etc

I'm not a computer guru but I am a programmer. I am good with Java and while not the best I can at least understand what's going on when I see other code. I use C when I build the circuits I work with when I build my own projects at home. So when I hear you explaining what ExoTech does.... I don't really hear anything being said. That's why I said earlier it sounds like a sales pitch gibberish. Even when I ask how it'll change the world, no real specifics. I'm confused...but not really.

Take care. I'm out.

Michi
3rd December 2024, 20:36
Hello,

Thanks for the link.

There is numerous videos on that page and I was hoping one would show me the demonstration of the software/hardware. Even a short clip of it. But I can't find any. It looks like these videos was creating using Stock videos and or using sites like https://invideo.io/

When i first found this site, it did not sit with me. Why the high secret attempts, contact via email, get a NDA and when once reviewed the videos, a Management Director of ExoTech will schedule a personal video meeting with Peter Warren using Zoom video conferencing technology, which requires a computer with audio and video capability.

This also raised my eyebrow:

https://i.ibb.co/1G2Nf84/Screenshot-2024-12-03-at-18-12-05-Introduction-to-the-CTB-on-Exo-Tech-mp4.png (https://ibb.co/WvKXWgR)

Something just not sit right with me.

I also checked their Team (https://exotech.bm/the-exotech-team/) sub page and it resembles somewhat a Church of Scientology organizing board.
(funny - their Quality Division 5 is empty)

Perhaps, they are a WISE (https://wise.org/) company (World Institute of Scientology Enterprise)?

freedave
3rd December 2024, 21:06
Hello,

Thanks for the link.

There is numerous videos on that page and I was hoping one would show me the demonstration of the software/hardware. Even a short clip of it. But I can't find any. It looks like these videos was creating using Stock videos and or using sites like https://invideo.io/

When i first found this site, it did not sit with me. Why the high secret attempts, contact via email, get a NDA and when once reviewed the videos, a Management Director of ExoTech will schedule a personal video meeting with Peter Warren using Zoom video conferencing technology, which requires a computer with audio and video capability.

This also raised my eyebrow:

https://i.ibb.co/1G2Nf84/Screenshot-2024-12-03-at-18-12-05-Introduction-to-the-CTB-on-Exo-Tech-mp4.png (https://ibb.co/WvKXWgR)

Something just not sit right with me.

OK, Hamish -- I understand . . . freedave

freedave
3rd December 2024, 21:14
Garbage-In = TRUE;

WHILE
Garbage-In = TRUE;
Garbage-Out = Garbage-In;
LOOP


It doesn't matter what programming language is used.

I think a much, much bigger problem in this instance is that if a benevolent, loving, high-integrity crew of programmers write a new AI scripting language and its AI algorithms, how in the hell are they going to get the Bad Guys to switch from using the AI that the Bad Guy programmers wrote?

I had a "conversation" with Microsoft's Bing AI, and it told me to check Snopes to verify the "info" I was given. Garbage!

AI can mean different things - all the way from a HAL 9000-like control of all processes, to a very limited scope software feature, like the ability to erase and replace objects in a photographic application. Why would Alphabet, Inc. (Google/CIA) use this new benevolent and truthful AI when they spent the time to write and deploy a Bad Guy empire-enriching AI? I can't even see the Bad Guys allowing an online AI platform to exist that yields the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Why would they? Further, the AI would need to be "intelligent" enough to filter through and reject all of the lies published as the truth - which may well be the lion's share of data published on a subject.
,
The "Bad Guys" will not switch, but they are a small minority. They are not all-powerful. There can be strategies in place to reach the majority who are not "Bad Guys" . . .

freedave
3rd December 2024, 22:39
Hello,

Thanks for the link.

There is numerous videos on that page and I was hoping one would show me the demonstration of the software/hardware. Even a short clip of it. But I can't find any. It looks like these videos was creating using Stock videos and or using sites like https://invideo.io/

When i first found this site, it did not sit with me. Why the high secret attempts, contact via email, get a NDA and when once reviewed the videos, a Management Director of ExoTech will schedule a personal video meeting with Peter Warren using Zoom video conferencing technology, which requires a computer with audio and video capability.

This also raised my eyebrow:

https://i.ibb.co/1G2Nf84/Screenshot-2024-12-03-at-18-12-05-Introduction-to-the-CTB-on-Exo-Tech-mp4.png (https://ibb.co/WvKXWgR)

Something just not sit right with me.

yikes

Respectfully, I'm out. I'll leave you to it freedave, after this post I wont be a bother anymore.

Here's my opinion: Peter Warren was a Scientologist for 15 years. He was sued by the SEC and had to pay $6 million for fraud. He 'exaggerated' his previous product like he is this one. His previous company was Exo-Brain, now it's ExoTech. I believe it's the same scam, he's just more careful now. And he's using what he learned in Scientology to scam people. He's making millions off of other people, he's a great speaker and salesman, but also a bs artist.

The product ExoTech is pushing sounds more or less like Siri. There's nothing revolutionary about it. And regarding it's coding or whatever it doesn't matter, it must conform to the CPU and every CPU does the same thing. It's like page 1 of any computing course that a computer isn't 'smart' it can only do certain things:
read data from memory, add two numbers, subtract one number from another, multiply two numbers, divide one number by another, move data from one memory location to another, determine if one value is equal to another, etc

I'm not a computer guru but I am a programmer. I am good with Java and while not the best I can at least understand what's going on when I see other code. I use C when I build the circuits I work with when I build my own projects at home. So when I hear you explaining what ExoTech does.... I don't really hear anything being said. That's why I said earlier it sounds like a sales pitch gibberish. Even when I ask how it'll change the world, no real specifics. I'm confused...but not really.

Take care. I'm out.

This is not a reply to Strat. It is only written for others who might view his posts. What Strat has written is full of false assumptions and statements. He has mostly negative comments based upon no fiirst-hand knowledge. I can be more specific to any others who might read this.. . .

Hamish
4th December 2024, 13:23
Hello,

The following links and files may be of value to anyone looking into this.

https://exotech.bm/tech-team-videos/

https://www.exotech.bm/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/ExoTech-Intro.pdf
https://www.exotech.bm/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/The-Users-View-of-ExoTech.pdf
https://exotech.bm/wp-content/ExoBrain-Conversations-Brochure.pdf

freedave
4th December 2024, 15:37
Thank you, Hamish . . . freedave

freedave
5th December 2024, 18:20
Hello,

Thanks for the link.

There is numerous videos on that page and I was hoping one would show me the demonstration of the software/hardware. Even a short clip of it. But I can't find any. It looks like these videos was creating using Stock videos and or using sites like https://invideo.io/

When i first found this site, it did not sit with me. Why the high secret attempts, contact via email, get a NDA and when once reviewed the videos, a Management Director of ExoTech will schedule a personal video meeting with Peter Warren using Zoom video conferencing technology, which requires a computer with audio and video capability.

This also raised my eyebrow:

https://i.ibb.co/1G2Nf84/Screenshot-2024-12-03-at-18-12-05-Introduction-to-the-CTB-on-Exo-Tech-mp4.png (https://ibb.co/WvKXWgR)

Something just not sit right with me.

I also checked their Team (https://exotech.bm/the-exotech-team/) sub page and it resembles somewhat a Church of Scientology organizing board.
(funny - their Quality Division 5 is empty)

Perhaps, they are a WISE (https://wise.org/) company (World Institute of Scientology Enterprise)?

I think they ARE a WISE company. But I don't think any prejudice towards L. Ron Hubbard or Scientology should prevent anyone from looking into a technology that can dramatically change the world for the better . . .