Complete list of all of Bashar al Assad's crimes

[Dennis Leahy]

Opposed Zionist Israel

[haroldsails]

Check the comments on Moon of Alabama today. I think we can expect the unexpected. The fat lady has yet to sing.

Syria - Winners and Losers or Both

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/12/syria-winner-and-losers-or-both.html

[rgray222]

Dennis, are you saying that Bashar al-Assad's reign in Syria would be going along fine if he did not oppose Zionist Israel? It seemed to me that Assad had a very harsh authoritarian rule and a violent response to the opposition, which greatly contributed to the start of the civil war in 2011. No matter how you slice and dice it he simply was not a good guy.

[Bill Ryan]

Dennis, are you saying that Bashar al-Assad's reign in Syria would be going along fine if he did not oppose Zionist Israel? It seemed to me that Assad had a very harsh authoritarian rule and a violent response to the opposition, which greatly contributed to the start of the civil war in 2011. No matter how you slice and dice it he simply was not a good guy.Richard, many thanks as always, but from where I sit here just now I've been speed-learning as much as I can about Syria, Assad, and the entire complex situation, and I'm not yet sure that what you say about Assad is true.

[SilentFeathers]

If Assad/Syria wasn't focused on, manipulated, and targeted for destruction like Libya and Iraq almost everyone wouldn't even know who he was.

I'm sure Assad wasn't perfect and likely committed several crimes, but I would bet he pales in comparison to many other leaders when it comes to the amount of crimes he committed.

[rgray222]

Dennis/Bill
The complexities of the conflict in the Middle East particularly in Syria mean that interpretations of events can enormously vary based on political, ideological, and geopolitical lense that each of us looks through. My personal lens tells me that nobody is innocent in the modern-day Middle East. There are only different levels of guilt and there is enough arrogance on all sides of the equation that it smothers peace before it has a chance to take root.

I am not posting here to defend Israel or to debate Assad's guilt or innocence, that truly is a no-win situation but I am seeing a metamorphosis in the Middle East. I think most of the Middle East is ready for peace and they are fast approaching change. I also believe the dirty little secret in the Middle East is that most of the key players, such as Saudi, the Emirates and Qatar have had enough of the Palestinian problems. They have had enough of the eternal struggle. This relentless never-ending conflict is now a detriment to their economic and long-term plans. Make no mistake, I am not taking sides here I just saying change is imminent. I also believe that the key players in the Middle East will move the Abrahams Accord forward for a much more economically beneficial and peaceful life for all parties.

I believe Bashar al-Assad was an obstacle to peace and his removal was necessary and unavoidable.

[norman]

Opposed Zionist Israel

That may be true, or not, I don't know.

What I do know is that he opposed freemasonry control in the apparatus of the country.

In my estimation, Zionism is too young for it to be the end of the truth seeking trail. There were secret societies (wealthy and powerful) long before the world encountered Zionism. I cannot believe Zionism popped up and took over those any more than I can believe Hitler popped up and took over the Vatican and the City of London, who helped and financed the 3rd Reich.

Israel in not, by itself, a wealthy nation. Ok, we can jump to an assumption that worldwide Zionism takes care of that problem but Zionism is just a fat bouncing baby in the big house of 'upside down world' history.

[Dennis Leahy]

Our opinion of Assad was handed to us by the greatest propaganda machine ever, Israel. 99.99999% of everything we ever were told or read about the Middle East was composed and spun by the metastasized Israeli propaganda machine, Mossad, AIPAC, ADL, and major media, film, TV, newspapers, magazines that have Jewish ownership, Zionist ownership, Zionist sympathy. Over and over and over... and over and over... and over... for decades and decades and decades.

Unless you have made a herculean effort to find out the truth about the Middle East and ALL its nations, you are much worse than clueless - you are programmed. You think you know something - and you know nothing, nothing resembling the truth.

The "civil war" in Syria was the Mossad and CIA's hired mercenaries. They staged protests, Assad knew it was Mossad/CIA mercenaries, and he ordered the protests to be smashed. That was the biggest "dirt" that the Mossad/CIA had on him, but it wasn't enough, so they hired a choreographer and make-up artists and director to present The White Helmets and The Fake Gas Attack.

So, the "White Helmets" dance troupe, a Mossad/CIA production, enacted a fake gas attack in Syria during the reign of Trump I. The Mossad/CIA needed to brand Assad as a monster who uses chemical weapons - "against his own people!" (shades of Saddam) It was quickly and convincingly debunked as a fake gas attack (even comedian Jimmy Dore did a show on it), but there were a few USA, Inc. officials that simply ignored the embarrassingly inept and so easily debunked fake "gas attack", and acted on it as ordered by Israel: Then president Trump sent a cadre of warships and fired a number of missiles into Syria (the way a dog pees on a tree to mark its territory, I guess) Then Trump sent enough US soldiers to guard the Syrian oilfields so Israel could continue stealing Syria's oil and Syria couldn't meet its own energy needs, or export oil to help pay for rebuilding the country that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Satan Yahoo just destroyed. Trumps troops are still there - and they also control the Syrian agricultural breadbasket, so it has been 100% impossible for Syria to rebuild. This may be the one example of the often tried technique for regime change by the CIA, piss off the population by starvation and sanctions, that worked on some of the population. Israel and the US made damn sure Assad couldn't help the people of Syria. And, as soon as Damascus fell, Israel bombed (with bombs I paid part of) every military area they could find - so Syria will never be able to defend itself again.

Netflix did a bogus documentary extolling the virtues of the White Helmets. Every "news" organization in the West proclaimed Assad was a dictator and gassed his own people.

Why the fake gas attack? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY GOOD BLACKMAIL ON ASSAD. He wasn't a dictator and wasn't hated by his people. That was 95% bullsh!t (I'm sure 5% of a population hates or strongly dislikes its chief executive, but Assad was overwhelmingly appreciated by the people of Syria. Maybe his dad was a dictator - I haven't looked into his story - but Bashar al Assad was trained as a physician in the US and was asked and answered the call to come back to Syria after his father was dead. When Vanessa Beeley went over to Syria and interviewed Assad, Assad took her on a walk through Damascus, unafraid of the Syrian people. Beeley said virtually everyone she spoke with was glad Assad was president. Assad's wife also walked among the people, and reportedly is loved by Syrians.

Here's Vanessa Beeley's viewpoint on what is happening in Syria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RughpYQdnss

[O Donna]

I'm sure Assad wasn't perfect and likely committed several crimes, but I would bet he pales in comparison to many other leaders when it comes to the amount of crimes he committed.

That is quite possibly based entirely upon means. If Assad possessed a super power nation to control, who is to say his crimes against humanity could rival anyone in history?

https://www.johnlocke.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Acton.jpg

Believe most people have seen this ideology play out on some scale in their life.

*just a drop of consideration in the bucket*

[jaybee]

*

to pick up on a couple of points.....



Our opinion of Assad was handed to us by the greatest propaganda machine ever, Israel. 99.99999% of everything we ever we told or read about the Middle East was composed and spun by the metastasized Israeli propaganda machine, Mossad, AIPAC, ADL, and major media, film, TV, newspaers, magazines that have Jewish ownership, Zionist ownership, Zionist sympathy. Over and over and over... and over and over... and over... for decades and decades and decades.

agreed - - - - but could we acknowledge that Zionism and Israeli expansion is an aspect, albeit an important aspect, of the NWO take over and establishment of a One World Government aka dictatorship...? A very long term (undemocratic) project plotted + headed by the richest people on the planet - and Jerusalem is thought to be the favoured Headquarters for said Global Government....

Syria, like Iraq and Libya were earmarked decades ago to be destroyed and regime changed... using fake civil war fomented from the outside - where terrorist groups were/are proxy armies for Western Globalist forces... (behind closed doors they have probably been promised an Islamic State - whether they get one remains to be seen... )




Why the fake gas attack? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY GOOD BLACKMAIL ON ASSAD.

From memory.... I recall that when Trump was on the brink of withdrawing US forces from Syria - something he said he was going to do.....the fake gas attack was quickly got together to put extreme pressure on Trump to not withdraw troops from Syria and to DO SOMETHING... the Globalists didn't want their long term plans for Syria wrecked by a businessman, an outsider, coming into office...

Trump - new to the job and probably largely unaware of the extent of the skilful manipulation being used on him... went on the media outlets calling Assad a monster and talked about beautiful babies being gassed..... in reality it turned out (as suspected ) it was all a put up job.... and the poor little kids who we saw crying and scared being dramatically hosed down because they'd supposedly been gassed by the 'terrible dictator Assad'....... were in fact being shamelessly used for the fake media production....

Trump ordered a bit of bombing on Syria in response but there was minimal damage and few deaths (if I remember right)

Alex Jones actually cried live on air .. over it all...

Not surprisingly US (aka Globalist) military then stayed in Syria in preparation for what happened the other day - it will be interesting how Trump responds to what's going on because he was always pleased to say he had got rid of...beaten... ISIS in Syria - and now ISIS, Al Qaeda etc are back + in control - with another name, endorsed (for now) by Israel and the West - which is to say..... endorsed by the Globalist Cabal who always covertly planned to rearrange the Middle East - it's governments and borders...

that's my take on it, anyway....

[Blastolabs]

I believe Bashar al-Assad was an obstacle to peace and his removal was necessary and unavoidable.
From https://cnewa.org/
"But Ellwood told the meeting that Assad was an obstacle to peace because no ”inclusive government” could ever be formed under his rule." (https://cnewa.org/melkite-archbishop-urges-british-not-to-support-militants-in-syria/)

Are you aware of propaganda in general? I noticed a very obvious well funded anti Assad PR wave hit twitter a week or so ago, I'm sure others noticed it, suddenly everyone was talking exactly like you have been on this thread.
"Assad needs to go, it is needs to happen, Trust me, but I can't say anymore" ;):sherlock::ROFL:

[Bill Ryan]

Some history, although most readers will already know this. Bashar el-Assad never wanted to be a politician. He was a medical doctor, an ophthalmologist trained in London.

His father, Hafez al-Assad, the former President of Syria from 1971 until his death in 2000, really was a 'strong man', formerly in the military and a career politician. The plan was always for Hafaz's elder son Bassel to inherit the presidency, but he died in a car accident in 1994. So Bashar tumbled into the role.

Recently, all reports from everywhere suggest that Bashar had internally pretty much given up the fight for Syria. He appeared (maybe understandably) to be most concerned about his wife's battle with cancer. By all accounts he is truly devoted to her, and her condition was becoming increasingly serious.

He was invited to (and was expected to attend) the recent BRICS meeting in Kazan, but never went — which surprised and disappointed everyone. It's widely suggested that the reason he never went was that he just didn't want to engage with Turkey's Erdogan, with whom he had political issues going back years and whom he disliked intensely.

If he had attended, a meeting with Erdogan might have been difficult, but they would have been surrounded by highly able diplomats (including giants such as Lavrov) and despite Assad's reluctance and personal discomfort, it's entirely likely that the current events (precipitated by Erdogan himself, but with the backchannel involvement, support and encouragement of the US and Israel) would not have happened.

There are also reports, which may well be credible, that Assad had sent his family to Russia before the Jihadi insurrection began on 27 November. He may well have known that all this would surely and unavoidably happen.

He'd appeared fatalistic about Syria's fate for several months prior, and both Iran and Russia have stated on record that for quite a period before all this they were continually supplying Assad with intelligence, and offering military support in a whole bunch of ways — but that Assad had refused all assistance. There was really nothing further that Iran or Russia could do.

Whether Assad's many recent mistakes were gross errors of judgement, or whether he was just kind of committing a slow-motion 'suicide' (as if he were clinically depressed, which seems very possible but which I'm not aware anyone has suggested), is unknown. Now he's in Russia with his family, it has to be possible that some kind of high-level formal interview will take place, but maybe not for a month or two, or longer.

My guess is that if he were ever in a position sometime to tell the whole personal truth on record, he might reveal that he never wanted to be president, he had never really been interested in politics, he held it all together as long as he could as a matter of family honor, but that in the end it was all too much and he ceased being able to cope.

Alexander Mercouris, himself a Greek and classically trained, has pointed out that in the true Ancient Greek tradition Assad is a tragic hero that all the great Greek philosophers (and maybe also Shakespeare) would have completely understood.

All he had ever really wanted was to be a good eye doctor, and to live a peaceful and happy life with his beautiful wife.

:flower:

[grapevine]

Opposed Zionist Israel


Second Son Syndrome . . .

And because of that, Bashar al-Assad was doomed from the very beginning. (William and Harry, Edward VIII and George VI - are there similarities? Second Son Syndrome is a known condition, the same as Middle Child, but in high profile families these conditions and traits will be magnified considerably). Whether Bashar was a weak leader or pragmatist depends on your own viewpoints, but he's survived nevertheless.

There are some great observations about Assad and Syria both here and on the Israel/etc war thread and perhaps this next comment would be better there but as an observer, Syria is a strategic/pivotal country for anyone with interests in the Middle East, and I just can't see Russia/BRICS letting it go in this manner, can you? It's extremely likely also that any number of strategies and outcomes have been put into AI and although "The only winning move is not to play" may be appropriate, it will nevertheless be ignored. Like the oreshnik missile, there needs to be something else which hasn't yet been considered.

PS: Interestingly, Donald Trump is also a Second Son.

[Bill Ryan]

Some history, although most readers will already know this. Bashar el-Assad never wanted to be a politician. He was a medical doctor, an ophthalmologist trained in London.

His father, Hafez al-Assad, the former President of Syria from 1971 until his death in 2000, really was a 'strong man', formerly in the military and a career politician. The plan was always for Hafaz's elder son Bassel to inherit the presidency, but he died in a car accident in 1994. So Bashar tumbled into the role.

Recently, all reports from everywhere suggest that Bashar had internally pretty much given up the fight for Syria. He appeared (maybe understandably) to be most concerned about his wife's battle with cancer. By all accounts he is truly devoted to her, and her condition was becoming increasingly serious.

He was invited to (and was expected to attend) the recent BRICS meeting in Kazan, but never went — which surprised and disappointed everyone. It's widely suggested that the reason he never went was that he just didn't want to engage with Turkey's Erdogan, with whom he had political issues going back years and whom he disliked intensely.

If he had attended, a meeting with Erdogan might have been difficult, but they would have been surrounded by highly able diplomats (including giants such as Lavrov) and despite Assad's reluctance and personal discomfort, it's entirely likely that the current events (precipitated by Erdogan himself, but with the backchannel involvement, support and encouragement of the US and Israel) would not have happened.

There are also reports, which may well be credible, that Assad had sent his family to Russia before the Jihadi insurrection began on 27 November. He may well have known that all this would surely and unavoidably happen.

He'd appeared fatalistic about Syria's fate for several months prior, and both Iran and Russia have stated on record that for quite a period before all this they were continually supplying Assad with intelligence, and offering military support in a whole bunch of ways — but that Assad had refused all assistance. There was really nothing further that Iran or Russia could do.

Whether Assad's many recent mistakes were gross errors of judgement, or whether he was just kind of committing a slow-motion 'suicide' (as if he were clinically depressed, which seems very possible but which I'm not aware anyone has suggested), is unknown. Now he's in Russia with his family, it has to be possible that some kind of high-level formal interview will take place, but maybe not for a month or two, or longer.

My guess is that if he were ever in a position sometime to tell the whole personal truth on record, he might reveal that he never wanted to be president, he had never really been interested in politics, he held it all together as long as he could as a matter of family honor, but that in the end it was all too much and he ceased being able to cope.

Alexander Mercouris, himself a Greek and classically trained, has pointed out that in the true Ancient Greek tradition Assad is a tragic hero that all the great Greek philosophers (and maybe also Shakespeare) would have completely understood.

All he had ever really wanted was to be a good eye doctor, and to live a peaceful and happy life with his beautiful wife.

:flower:~~~

I'm bumping my own post (already!) with this extract from Simplicius the Thinker's long and in-depth piece on this. His entire analysis is well worth reading.


https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/syrias-fall-in-depth-analysis

I hadn't read this when I made my post above. :flower: Simplicius says all this rather better, and in more detail, than I had in my post.

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I consider Assad a kind of tragic figure because it appears now in retrospect that while he was a good man and kind leader, he may not have been an effective leader. The reality is that he was never meant to become ruler. He was a simple doctor-in-training while his older, firmer brother Bassel al-Assad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassel_al-Assad), elder son of Hafez, was meant to inherit the throne until he tragically died in a car accident in 1994:
Bashar al-Assad was not initially destined to become the president of Syria. His older brother, Basil al-Assad, was being groomed for this role by their father, Hafez al-Assad. Basil was seen as the preferred successor and had been prepared for leadership from a young age. However, his life took a tragic turn when he died in a car accident in 1994, which drastically altered the succession plan.

Following Basil's death, Bashar, who was studying ophthalmology in London at the time, was recalled to Syria. He had to abandon his medical career and quickly adapt to a political and military role. Hafez al-Assad then began to prepare Bashar for leadership by enrolling him in military training and positioning him within the government. Despite his lack of political experience, Bashar eventually succeeded his father as president after Hafez's death in 2000.
Just look at the eldest son’s training — that’s who was meant to lead Syria:
Trained in parachuting, he was commissioned in the Special Forces and later switched to the armoured corps after training in the Soviet military academies. He rapidly rose through the ranks, becoming a major and then commander of a brigade in the Republican Guard.
It can be inferred that Bashar’s lack of training for the role, and his incompatible disposition likely led to his not being a good military commander-in-chief. By all accounts, Assad appeared aloof when it came to the running of his army, leaving everything to his generals which — according to some — resulted in the slow degradation and corruption of many high level military officials. We can never know quite for certain how much blame rests with him, but these are educated deductions based on both sides’ accounts.

The soft-spoken, mild-mannered, intelligent ruler may not have had the required gravitas to properly thrive in a barbarous region overrun with vicious enemies on all sides. This, along with the many native traitors now condemning him, has led some to express the sentiment that: “Syria did not deserve Assad.” In some ways it feels like no country deserves his kind of thoughtful, temperate leader with such an exemplary and graceful first wife and family.

[DustOff72]

It seems a first step to Greater Israel has now been taken.

[Jaak]

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[Dennis Leahy]

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Jaak, I was able to see the tweets you included on my phone, but on my computer, your post is completely blank. The TWEET tags just do not work for some of us on the forum.

I broke up the tags in your post, quoted above, to show what is in your post. It would be great if you'd use the full URL to each tweet, and don't use the forum's "TWEET" tags, so others can see your posts. I thought all 3 of the videos you included were pertinent, and didn't want to just ignore (and not 'thank') your post.

[Dennis Leahy]

Bill, thanks for the clarification in your posts. I was operating 'off the top of my head' with Bashar al Assad's story, (and misremembered his medical specialty and where he trained), and I appreciate the clarifications.

[Kryztian]

Complete list of all of Bashar al Assad's crimes

Opposed Zionist Israel

Dennis, If your name didn't appear on the post and instead it was posted by a new member, I would have probably thought this person was a Mossad asset.

I think the easy, but erroneous logic you might be using here is:

Putin is an ally of the Assad and the United States hates him, therefore he must be good.


Israel says bad things about Assad, therefore he must be a big threat to them.



I don't believe that are more people imprisoned and tortured for their dissent in the Middle East than there are in Syria. There may be more repressive people in the Middle East (e.g. Mohammed bin Salman, Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia) however, most of the peoples in those nations know that they have to keep in line, do and think as they are told, or they will be crushed by a pile of rocks, so they just STFU.) I don't think any other nation in the Middle East has over a hundred detention centers (kind of like what Alex Jones once claimed Walmarts were going to be used for :bigsmile:) where people are tortured and held for decades without allowing them to communicate to the outside world.

From the reality of what is going on in Syria, we should be able to see that:


Putin is just as much as a carnivorous creature as Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Hilary Clinton, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, Lindsey Graham, Antony Blinken and Jake Sullivan. Just like his counterparts in the NATO mafia, he is acting on behalf of the oligarchs that got him into power and keep him there, and to a lesser extent, to the people of his nation that fund the war machines (both military and policy making machines) that he operates. The only real difference, is that he is part of a much smaller mafia, although it is gaining more influence in the global neighborhood.


Israel loves Assad. He makes some token anti-Israeli statements, but he is happy to let them have the Golan Heights, isn't doing anything to stop their genocide or West Bank land expansion and I think in the coming months we will find our just how much intelligence on Hamas he has given to Israel.


The other false narrative that I hope will crumble is that Assad was the only one who could unite his country. As with the Zionist narrative, the assumption is that Arabs are all Moslems who would have murdered all the Christians and Jews (as if there are no Christian and Jewish arabs :facepalm:) except the Sunnis are so busy killing the Shia and vice versa. I am pretty sure that as things regroup in Syria, the country which has Shia, Sunni, Christians, and Alawites will peacefully come together with one unifying agenda: anti-Zionism.


Here's a great summary of what the Assad regime really was:

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[grapevine]

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Jaak, I was able to see the tweets you included on my phone, but on my computer, your post is completely blank. The TWEET tags just do not work for some of us on the forum.

I broke up the tags in your post, quoted above, to show what is in your post. It would be great if you'd use the full URL to each tweet, and don't use the forum's "TWEET" tags, so others can see your posts. I thought all 3 of the videos you included were pertinent, and didn't want to just ignore (and not 'thank') your post.[/QUOTE]

Same here, but not just Jaak's. And not Jaak's all the time either. Mystifying . . . .

[Kryztian]

Note: follow links for original article which contains several videos I was not able to include here.

Al-Assad’s ‘human slaughterhouses’: What to know about Syria’s prisons

Bashar al-Assad’s apparatus ran more than 100 detention facilities where it tortured indiscriminately.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/9/assads-human-slaughterhouses-what-to-know-about-syrias-prisons#ixzz8u1p7lLjb

By Al Jazeera Staff
Published On 9 Dec 20249 Dec 2024


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Teams investigate allegations of a secret compartment in Sednaya Prison after opposition groups took control of Damascus, December 9, 2024 [Bekir Kasım/Anadolu Agency]

During a lightning offensive to capture Syria, opposition fighters have freed thousands of people from a network of terrifying prisons that characterised the repressive al-Assad regime that they eventually ousted.

Coming from the north, they took Aleppo first, then Hama, Homs and Damascus.

Along the way, they busted open central prisons and reassured those stumbling out – frail and confused – that they were safe.

They told them the regime of President Bashar al-Assad was on the verge of – or had already – fallen, and showed the world the conditions that untold thousands of people had been held in for ages.

The work has continued, as fighters and relief workers scramble to find prisoners left behind, open secret cells, and even find the locations of secret facilities.

Their efforts offer faint hope to countless Syrian families whose loved ones “disappeared” into a prison system many describe as dungeons or death camps.

Here’s all you need to know about Syria’s prisons under al-Assad’s rule:

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How many prisons were there in Syria?

More than 100 detention facilities – according to a United Nations report – and an unknown number of secret facilities.

Two of the most notorious prisons were Tadmor and Sednaya.

They were in the desert of the ancient city of Palmyra and just outside Damascus, respectively.

https://i.imgur.com/9we15er.png

What were conditions like in Syria’s prisons?

Horrific.

In 2014, a regime defector, who went by the name “Caesar”, fled Syria with tens of thousands of images showing the mutilated bodies of detainees who were killed or tortured in Syrian prisons.

He passed on about 53,276 files to Syrian and international rights groups and activists.

Human Rights Watch (HRW) extrapolated that the photographs proved at least 6,786 people had died in the government’s custody.

Amnesty International further referred to Sadnaya Prison as a “slaughterhouse” in 2017 after finding that thousands of people had been executed there.

They were killed in mass hangings or tortured to death, including by being deprived of food, water and medicine.

Syrian authorities would then dump them in mass graves.

Amnesty said the killings amount to crimes against humanity.

How many people languished in prison?

About 157,634 Syrians were arrested between March 2011 and August 2024.

Of this number, 5,274 were children and 10,221 women.

Thousands more were abducted by Syria’s feared security services during the reign of Bashar al-Assad’s father, Hafez, who came to power in 1971.

His son assumed control of the country after Hafez died in 2000.

Are there still Syrians in prison?

There are countless people still trapped in underground dungeons, according to relief groups.

Authorities have called on former soldiers and prison guards to provide opposition forces with the passwords to unlock underground electronic doors, claiming that thousands of detainees were still trapped in these dungeons, according to CCTV images.

Syria’s White Helmets have also offered a monetary reward to anyone coming forward with information that helps uncover a secret facility.


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Translation: A financial reward for anyone who provides information that helps find the locations of secret prisons and detention centres where detainees are being held. The Syria Civil Defence (White Helmets) announces a financial reward of $3,000 to anyone who provides direct information leading to the identification of secret prisons in Syria where detainees are being held.

It’s unclear who exactly is still behind bars, yet rebels have so far released thousands of women, as well as elderly and middle-aged men – some of whom spent the majority of their lives in prison.

Rebels also discovered small children in the regime’s custody

How were people tortured?

In unimaginable ways.

The Syrian regime used several techniques to punish real and perceived opponents. They would whip detainees, deprive them of sleep and electrocute them.

Women and men were routinely stripped naked, blindfolded and even raped.

On top of that, three particular torture methods became notorious in Syria for literally snapping a detainee’s back.

The first was known as the “German chair” and saw prison guards sit detainees on a chair and bend them backwards until their spines snapped.

A second was called the “flying carpet,” whereby victims were placed on a foldable wooden board.

Guards would then elevate the two sides of the board, bringing the victim’s knees and chest together, until the position caused immense back pain.

Finally, prison guards often tied detainees to a ladder and then would push the ladder over and watch the victim fall on their back – again and again.

Why did the regime arrest and torture so many Syrians?

Short answer: To terrorise and scare them into submission.

Prior to the 2011 Syrian uprising, people in the country used to say “the walls have ears” to refer to the regime’s sprawling intelligence surveillance system and network of spies, the dreaded Mukhabarat.

Anyone who made a critical comment about the regime risked disappearing into one of its dungeons.


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Qais Murad, a 36-year-old former inmate at Sednaya Prison, re-enacts an episode from his prison treatment at his house in Gaziantep in southeastern Turkiye on August 11, 2022 [Omar Haj Kadour/AFP]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/9/assads-human-slaughterhouses-what-to-know-about-syrias-prisons#ixzz8u1p7lLjb

[Dennis Leahy]

Complete list of all of Bashar al Assad's crimes

Opposed Zionist Israel

Dennis, If your name didn't appear on the post and instead it was posted by a new member, I would have probably thought this person was a Mossad asset.

I think the easy, but erroneous logic you might be using here is:



Putin is an ally of the Assad and the United States hates him, therefore he must be good.
Israel says bad things about Assad, therefore he must be a big threat to them.





I don't believe that are more people imprisoned and tortured for their dissent in the Middle East than there are in Syria. There may be more repressive people in the Middle East (e.g. Mohammed bin Salman, Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia) however, most of the peoples in those nations know that they have to keep in line, do and think as they are told, or they will be crushed by a pile of rocks, so they just STFU.) I don't think any other nation in the Middle East has over a hundred detention centers (kind of like what Alex Jones once claimed Walmarts were going to be used for :bigsmile:) where people are tortured and held for decades without allowing them to communicate to the outside world.

From the reality of what is going on in Syria, we should be able to see that:



Putin is just as much as a carnivorous creature as Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Hilary Clinton, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, Lindsey Graham, Antony Blinken and Jake Sullivan. Just like his counterparts in the NATO mafia, he is acting on behalf of the oligarchs that got him into power and keep him there, and to a lesser extent, to the people of his nation that fund the war machines (both military and policy making machines) that he operates. The only real difference, is that he is part of a much smaller mafia, although it is gaining more influence in the global neighborhood.
Israel loves Assad. He makes some token anti-Israeli statements, but he is happy to let them have the Golan Heights, isn't doing anything to stop their genocide or West Bank land expansion and I think in the coming months we will find our just how much intelligence on Hamas he has given to Israel.
The other false narrative that I hope will crumble is that Assad was the only one who could unite his country. As with the Zionist narrative, the assumption is that Arabs are all Moslems who would have murdered all the Christians and Jews (as if there are no Christian and Jewish arabs :facepalm:) except the Sunnis are so busy killing the Shia and vice versa. I am pretty sure that as things regroup in Syria, the country which has Shia, Sunni, Christians, and Alawites will peacefully come together with one unifying agenda: anti-Zionism.



Here's a great summary of what the Assad regime really was:

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I listened to the first 57 seconds. Proof that most people believe what Israel told them was the truth. I listened to a few more seconds and hear the "sins of the father" cast upon the son - not about Bashar but about his father. I think Satanyahoo may have written this guy's hit piece - it's the same old sh!t that Israel has been spewing for decades.

I have to nominate your comment, "Israel loves Assad" as that of a smart member saying dumb things. Israel loves Israel, no other nation or people. They hijacked the Jew's "God's chosen people" concept and conflated it to be about the state of Israel. Also, this thread isn't about Putin, who only serves a role in this discussion similar to Bashar's father, as negative associations for piling on the guilt by association narrative. It appears to me that the Zionist Israeli propaganda machine got you so good that you don't even realize it was they who fed all of the "data" to you, and all of us.

"100 detention centers" - no, I think you are confusing all of the USA, Inc. detention/torture centers around the world, or maybe the IDF/Israeli prison/torture system. Are you awaiting the news of the liberation of hundreds of innocent Syrian men from Syrian detention centers? hahahahahaha First of all, "100 detention centers" is about as believable as the Israeli's saying 100 babies were raped and beheaded. I expect this kind of sh!t from Rachel Maddow. Secondly, there probably are a number of alQaeda, ISIS, ISIL, alNusra, HTS, Mossad/CIA trained and funded mercenaries in Syrian prisons. Innocent? They are far from innocent. HTS mercenaries will probably let some of their compatriots out of prison, and Satanyahoo will give a nod. "Liberation?" Ha! The "liberators" first act was to stand down and let Israel fly in and destroy the country's military defensive capabilities. There ya go, people of Syria! You're now defenseless against foreign or domestic terrorists (with the world's second biggest terrorist nation next door.)

Assad has been neutered for a decade. He couldn't do anything to help Syrians, or take back the Golan Heights, or make the US soldiers leave his country, or help Palestinians, or help Yemenis, or help the Lebanese. The USA/Israel/Mossad/CIA did everything but kill him - they didn't kill him because he had been effectively neutralized and was somehow useful as a neutered head of state.

This isn't about the coronation of Assad as a saint, or a brilliant strategist, or great statesman, or even a great eye doctor. He's obviously none of the above. Please don't confuse my statements with someone trying to whitewash history and give a monster a pass. Bashar al Assad wasn't taken out of power because of anything he did or didn't do to the people of Syria, but because it is part of the Greater Israel Zionist expansion plan and agenda. Period.

[Dennis Leahy]

Oh cool, some White Helmets! hahahahahahahaa

Krystian, you could fill pages with the accusations echoed by the mainstream press, US State Department, and Israeli Department of Propaganda. Please don't.

My point is that Syria was just taken by "the West" for Greater Israel or even just Israel. It was not taken and Assad deposed due to Assad being a bad guy to Syrians (that point is actually moot here.) This wasn't a rescue.

Rachel Maddow and all of the other mercenary teleprompter readers are reading scripts prepared by Israel/AIPAC/ADL and the compliant USA, Inc. press corps. Trump and his Christian Zionist cabal are all on-board with the Greater Israel project, so (though it won't matter for Syria any more), Israel can now direct the USA, Inc.'s compliant Zionists to take out Iran.

I am sympathetic to those of you who are confused, or who believe ANYTHING that Israel says about anything. You are confused on purpose, by the greatest propaganda machine ever, Israel. If you believe ANYTHING that Israel says, you're not a dumbass or ignorant, no, you are the victim of a sophisticated propaganda program your entire life telling you that Israel are the good guys and the only good guys in the Middle East, and trusted US allies.

The standing wall of propaganda is that ("dictator") Assad himself was the problem in the Middle East in general and particularly in Syria, and that Syria was just liberated. This is a giant steaming pile of bullsh!t and is drawing flies.

[Akasha]

Here (https://odysee.com/@RyanDawson:6/RyPatrickHenningsenSyria:6) is Ryan Dawson and Patrick Henningsen on the topic. For those wanting a summary, sorry but it's 80 minutes long and I haven't finished watching it yet. However, it's pretty clear from what I've seen so far that they take a very similar position to Dennis.

[Kryztian]

I listened to the first 57 seconds. Proof that most people believe what Israel told them was the truth. I listened to a few more seconds and hear the "sins of the father" cast upon the son - not about Bashar but about his father. I think Satanyahoo may have written this guy's hit piece - it's the same old sh!t that Israel has been spewing for decades.


Wow Dennis. You challenged yourself there for 57 whole seconds on this matter! Amazing. I have had a lot of wrong ideas I embraced during my life before I went down the rabbit hole and I have to say, it took a lot, lot longer than 57 seconds of reading, listening and searching to convince me otherwise! Yes, the first 3 minutes of this video or so are introduction and some general conclusions, but after that it is some chock full of information coming at you at a rapid pace, and supported by clips from Al Jazeera and many Middle Eastern sources for news and analysis, who are neutral to anti-Zionist in their outlook! It's information, which doesn't mean you have to believe it, but you do have to examine it before you condemn it.

Dennis, I think you are seeing the world in terms of simple dualities: "if it opposes NATO or Israel, it is necessarily good" or "If Rachel Maddow said it, it must be wrong." or "It the news is anti-Assad, then it is globalist propaganda". There really are about a hundred prisons filled mostly with political prisoners, there really are a lot of Syrians who are seeing imprisoned family members who they weren't even sure were still living and have not seen in over a decade. And there are not crowds at the borders of Syria waiting to get back in, where at one time, the crowds were going in the other direction. The entire country has been liberated, and most places without a single gun shot, how did that happen without even a bullet being fired?

CJ Werleman has an excellent Youtube channel with videos focusing on the injustices that are happening in the Islamic world. He has done excellent exposes on the evil crimes of Israel. I imagine most of his videos would get your approval and appreciation instead of your 57 seconds of condemnation.

And I think Al Jazeera has a pretty good track record of reporting on Israel and the countries that surround it to.

[Michel Leclerc]

As a form of mild eulogy for President Assad.

He was wise enough to escape in time before a peculiar kind of ophthalmological surgery was performed on his anus, the way it was done by the French secret service on Muammar Khaddafi. Deadly destruction of the prostate pleasure centres is something psychopathic killers love – as evidenced repeatedly and successfully also by the “most humane” soldiery employed by the Zionist Atisemitic Colonialist entity.

The parallel with Khaddafi extends quite far. At a recent convention of Arabic leaders to stem the genocidal spree visited on the Palestinians, Assad’s address was quite eloquent: it criticised the "words and no actions" stand that "we" (he included himself among the accused) were again taking as always, whereas it were the Palestinians, the Yemenites and the Lebanese who were victims and defenders. One of Kaddafi’s later speeches had lambasted the same cowardice and venality.

I tend to believe that the Alawite denomination of Islam Assad belongs to had indeed managed to keep together the many forms of Islam, Christianity and other sects Syria boasts – as it had lived quite well with the fact that three languages are spoken: Arabic, Aramaic and Kurdish.

At least until — and then we have this lengthy civil war which is nothing more than a relentless and alas successful "divide and rule" strategy – successful because the country’s erstwhile clans and tribal components could always be and were bought. The Mastermind to carry those programs out on behalf of the “Hegemon” lived next door – and possessed all the keys of the propaganda organ to play sweet music to Western ears.

We’ll soon see how this "freedom" unwraps. Comical it was, that the proclamation of the Kurdish woman fighters sounded stating in one sentence and without fear of creating confusion, that now the time was ready for "free Syria" and "free Kurdistan", by which they seemed to mean the same thing.

[Michel Leclerc]

I wish to add, Kryztian, that yes, I think and fear that there were many prisons, and many prisoners.

But oddly, when I used to live in Brussels and concerned myself with the refugees from the civil war, there was one thing that struck me. There were not so much "refugees" away from Assad, as "refugees" away from each other. They had stories about their villages, neighbourhoods, family properties destroyed and families, village and neighboourhood populations killed — by other refugees’ ransackers and killers. The impression was that of a warlord-torn country, destroyed by civil war.

President Assad must have been quite a powerless man.

[Dennis Leahy]

I listened to the first 57 seconds. Proof that most people believe what Israel told them was the truth. I listened to a few more seconds and hear the "sins of the father" cast upon the son - not about Bashar but about his father. I think Satanyahoo may have written this guy's hit piece - it's the same old sh!t that Israel has been spewing for decades.


Wow Dennis. You challenged yourself there for 57 whole seconds on this matter! Amazing. I have had a lot of wrong ideas I embraced during my life before I went down the rabbit hole and I have to say, it took a lot, lot longer than 57 seconds of reading, listening and searching to convince me otherwise! Yes, the first 3 minutes of this video or so are introduction and some general conclusions, but after that it is some chock full of information coming at you at a rapid pace, and supported by clips from Al Jazeera and many Middle Eastern sources for news and analysis, who are neutral to anti-Zionist in their outlook! It's information, which doesn't mean you have to believe it, but you do have to examine it before you condemn it.

Dennis, I think you are seeing the world in terms of simple dualities: "if it opposes NATO or Israel, it is necessarily good" or "If Rachel Maddow said it, it must be wrong." or "It the news is anti-Assad, then it is globalist propaganda". There really are about a hundred prisons filled mostly with political prisoners, there really are a lot of Syrians who are seeing imprisoned family members who they weren't even sure were still living and have not seen in over a decade. And there are not crowds at the borders of Syria waiting to get back in, where at one time, the crowds were going in the other direction. The entire country has been liberated, and most places without a single gun shot, how did that happen without even a bullet being fired?

CJ Werleman has an excellent Youtube channel with videos focusing on the injustices that are happening in the Islamic world. He has done excellent exposes on the evil crimes of Israel. I imagine most of his videos would get your approval and appreciation instead of your 57 seconds of condemnation.

And I think Al Jazeera has a pretty good track record of reporting on Israel and the countries that surround it to.

I gave an initial reaction after 57 seconds. It only took a few seconds to know that I have heard this stuff before. Like I said, you can find volumes of anti-Syrian and anti-Assad material, I'm not impressed. (I did end up watching most of the hit piece.)

So, the famous General Wesley Clark reveal a quarter of a century ago, listing Syria as one of the 7 countries in 5 years the Pentagon was targeting for destruction - does that ring a bell? Were the warmongers wrong about 6 out of 7 countries, and right to target Syria for destruction? I don't remember hearing about a mission to rescue the poor, innocent political prisoners that Assad had chained to a wall.

When Obama and Clinton directed the US military to shoot missiles and bombs into Syria, were they careful not to bomb the 100 prisons? (They weren't very good at missing a Doctors Without Borders hospital with Hellfire missiles, repeatedly.)

AlJazerra is not a truthful news source - I'll bet a pocketful of shekels that the Mossad/CIA is fully embedded within it. Like the US corporate "news", AlJazerra probably gets the high school football scores right, but everything else is massaged to someone behind the curtain's agenda. Sorry, but "AlJazeera said so" holds little weight to me.

"Dennis, I think you are seeing the world in terms of simple dualities: "if it opposes NATO or Israel, it is necessarily good" or "If Rachel Maddow said it, it must be wrong." or "It the news is anti-Assad, then it is globalist propaganda". There really are about a hundred prisons filled mostly with political prisoners, there really are a lot of Syrians who are seeing imprisoned family members who they weren't even sure were still living and have not seen in over a decade."

I say SO MUCH! Why do you need to put words in my mouth? :ROFL: The number of prisons/jails isn't the real point here, and why these people are in prison isn't the real point here. (Do you really think Assad and his boys rounded up hundreds or thousands of butchers, bakers, and candlestick makers, or do you think maybe they are virtually ALL mercenaries that attacked Syria? ) Assad and company couldn't do a goddamned thing to help the Syrian people, but yet they managed to maintain 100 prisons full of innocent Syrians and kept them alive for years. Right.

My point remains: Assad was NOT deposed because he was a dictator, or for jailing "political prisoners", he was deposed and Syria was taken by the West for the Greater Israel Project, because the US Deep State is and has been aligned with that goal for many decades. (Why the US Deep State aligned with Zionism and Israel is a separate discussion, but it wasn't because the Deep State operatives bowed down to this hijacked abomination of Judaism called Zionism.)

[4got2call]

Likely absolutely nothing 45 did or 47 will do is an accident. Find the 20Jan2017 inauguration speech. Watch closely the covers on the officers on the podium when they assemble behind him at precisely the time when he speaks of what his presidency is going to do. Then look up the cover bands and what service they represent. Listen to what he said during that time when the officers assembled and then disbanded and find your clue to what has been in play now 8 years and is poised to enter a much more public and visible phase. If you have kids or grandkids, rejoice to the ends of the Earth for what the finest military ever to exist has done to free every one of those innocents from the potential for harm that is nearly incomprehensible to 90% of parents & grandparents. Then, as you give those precious ones a hug for a few extra seconds, whisper a soft prayer of thanks for all those who gave their lives over the past several years to establish a world with no more wars, poverty or chronic illness forever. And most important: to ensure that everyone of those loved innocents will make it to their adulthood safe, healthy and unchanged by horrible dark intent. Many who provided that assurance were lost in kinetic covert subterranean ops to ensure that gift to those children & their families.
I imagine their souls will hear that soft whisper louder than most.

[Kryztian]

As a form of mild eulogy for President Assad.

He was wise enough to escape in time before a peculiar kind of ophthalmological surgery was performed on his anus, the way it was done by the French secret service on Muammar Khaddafi. Deadly destruction of the prostate pleasure centres is something psychopathic killers love – as evidenced repeatedly and successfully also by the “most humane” soldiery employed by the Zionist Atisemitic Colonialist entity.

The parallel with Khaddafi extends quite far.

Despite the parallels, there are also some 180-degree differences between the Khaddafi/Libya situation and the Assad/Syria situation. Libya had boomed economically during Khaddafi's decades of power, everyone had housing and healthcare and there were no taxes and no national debt. Before the NATO invasion of Libya, there was a demonstration of 2 million persons (about a quarter of the nation) in Tripoli to protest the NATO planned regime change. The fall of Khaddafi's regime was almost entirely because of Nicholas Sarkozy and Hillary Clinton, and not because of some very minuscule group of disgruntled Libyans.

The Assad regime fell quickly and almost without violence almost entirely because of internal reasons and because the economy collapsed and Assad could no longer pay generously the pit bills that kept him in power by torturing the populace and running the detention centers. Except for the ones along the Turkish border, most village fell instantly and without any blood shed, and yet somehow we are all supposed to believe that this happened because of Israeli or globalist intervention. :facepalm:

It will be interesting to see who is at the top of the new government and who they make alliances with. Will they try and throw out the Russian bases in Lebanon? That might open them up to more interference from Israel and it's backers. They have an interesting predicament because they are caught between the devil that supported Assad (Russia) and the devils that support Israel (NATO and friends). Perhaps Xi Jinping is receiving collect calls from Damascus as we speak? :bigsmile:

[Kryztian]

So, the famous General Wesley Clark reveal a quarter of a century ago, listing Syria as one of the 7 countries in 5 years the Pentagon was targeting for destruction - does that ring a bell? Were the warmongers wrong about 6 out of 7 countries, and right to target Syria for destruction? I don't remember hearing about a mission to rescue the poor, innocent political prisoners that Assad had chained to a wall.


One of those seven countries was Iraq, led by Saddam Hussein. Hussein created a terrifying system of government to extort the countries wealth for himself. He used chemical weapons on Kurds and on Iranians. He killed about a quarter million of his own people (a lot less than the 2 million who died when USA, UK and friends invaded) and used torture on everyone from political dissidents to athletes who did not perform well. And then the U.S. invaded his country. And they used the information about Saddam, and his brutality to justify the war. But it wasn't enough. So they had to invent fake news to scare Americans - to say Hussein still had chemical weapons in 2003 (he didn't) and that he was trying to buy uranium for Niger (also a lie.) The information that Tony Blair and the Bush Administration used to sell the war was a mix of true information and false/falsified information. The fact that they propagandized the true information doesn't make it any less true.

It is the same here. Whether or not the globalists want to overthrow Syria, this does not automatically make the information about Assad's human rights abuses any less true or not, what really matters is the evidence.



probably gets the high school football scores right, but everything else is massaged to someone behind the curtain's agenda. Sorry, but "AlJazeera said so" holds little weight to me.


It doesn't sound like any information or any evidence is going to hold any weight with you Dennis. Your mind is made up and we shouldn't bother you with the facts because the source is automatically invalidated by you if it doesn't tell you what you want to know. It only takes you 57 seconds to determine what kind of information is placed before you so you can toss it aside as quickly as possible. It's kind of ironic that you coined the clever term "Trump Deification Syndrome" recently, only to show us by example what "Anti-Globalist Derangement Syndrome" is. They are really are the same thing: you have a pre-existing narrative in your head and you manage to reject any information, within a 57 second period, because it does not fit in.

[Bruce G Charlton]

The very sudden and complete collapse of Syria into destructive chaos is (I believe) a reminder that it is much easier to destroy than to create, and to induce chaos rather than sustain good order.

This is why The West has become so dangerous, despite its weakness and decline. More and more of its residual know-how, resources and effort are being expended on destruction.

The West has a value system, an ideology, that actually inverts traditional values that aimed at virtue, beauty and truth. So our leadership class are keen, and able, purposively to destroy and make chaos in a nation, and yet believe it is A Good Thing for that nation. This, for the same reason that they perceive a world of escalating sin, ugliness and lies - and believe this is Good.

And it is terribly easy for "them" to get away with this strategy of destruction, and effortlessly depict the annihilation of a nation and the gross torment of its people as a positive step; since the Western masses are so corrupted by the same ideology of inversion.

[Dennis Leahy]

So, the famous General Wesley Clark reveal a quarter of a century ago, listing Syria as one of the 7 countries in 5 years the Pentagon was targeting for destruction - does that ring a bell? Were the warmongers wrong about 6 out of 7 countries, and right to target Syria for destruction? I don't remember hearing about a mission to rescue the poor, innocent political prisoners that Assad had chained to a wall.


One of those seven countries was Iraq, led by Saddam Hussein. Hussein created a terrifying system of government to extort the countries wealth for himself. He used chemical weapons on Kurds and on Iranians. He killed about a quarter million of his own people (a lot less than the 2 million who died when USA, UK and friends invaded) and used torture on everyone from political dissidents to athletes who did not perform well. And then the U.S. invaded his country. And they used the information about Saddam, and his brutality to justify the war. But it wasn't enough. So they had to invent fake news to scare Americans - to say Hussein still had chemical weapons in 2003 (he didn't) and that he was trying to buy uranium for Niger (also a lie.) The information that Tony Blair and the Bush Administration used to sell the war was a mix of true information and false/falsified information. The fact that they propagandized the true information doesn't make it any less true.

It is the same here. Whether or not the globalists want to overthrow Syria, this does not automatically make the information about Assad's human rights abuses any less true or not, what really matters is the evidence.



probably gets the high school football scores right, but everything else is massaged to someone behind the curtain's agenda. Sorry, but "AlJazeera said so" holds little weight to me.
It doesn't sound like any information or any evidence is going to hold any weight with you Dennis. Your mind is made up and we shouldn't bother you with the facts because the source is automatically invalidated by you if it doesn't tell you what you want to know. It only takes you 57 seconds to determine what kind of information is placed before you so you can toss it aside as quickly as possible. It's kind of ironic that you coined the clever term "Trump Deification Syndrome" recently, only to show us by example what "Anti-Globalist Derangement Syndrome" is. They are really are the same thing: you have a pre-existing narrative in your head and you manage to reject any information, within a 57 second period, because it does not fit in.
C'mon, man, don't lower the discussion down to ad hominem. So, I have Globalist Derangement Syndrome? No discernment? Pre-existing narrative?

57 seconds was incorrect after all - it didn't take that long to realize that your source is Israel and the US State department. It's also disingenuous of you to keep playing that off as me being dismissive of inconvenient truth - I've paid attention to Syria for decades, in real time. My point, as you well know, was that it only took a few seconds to recognize that the source is tainted, biased, and from well-known liars (well known to researchers that value truth over all.) There is almost no source for unbiased truth from independent investigative reporters about any Middle Eastern country.

Vanessa Beeley

Vanessa Beeley went to Syria, spent time, interviewed Syrian citizens, and interviewed Assad - as an independent, investigative journalist. Gee I wonder what the mainstream corporate CIA-controlled American "news" outlets and Wikipedia have to say about this independent investigative journalist:

Wikipedia: Vanessa Beeley, blogger, writer, photographer

"Vanessa Beeley is a British activist and blogger known for sharing conspiracy theories and disinformation about the Syrian civil war and about the Syrian volunteer organisation ..."
and here you see the search results (Startpage uses the Google engine) from "beeley assad" search:

54151


I'm not sure why you are invoking Saddam Hussein into a discussion about Assad. Guilt by association? Or, guilt by associative comparison? (I'd have to visit a list of logical fallacies to refresh my memory as to which logical fallacy that represents.) You outline Saddam's crimes, then switching to Assad, you say: " It is the same here." No, it's not the same. That's an intellectually stunted, false comparison. (It's kind of a variant of Godwin's Law, too.)

AJazeera:
Please check out this article from 2015: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/8/22/how-barack-obama-betrayed-the-syrian-people and read AlJazeera's statements about Assad using chemical weapons. The article could have been written by the New York Times (the author went to Yale, by the way.) Notably missing in this article: Bashar al Assad's 100 prisons full of thousands of innocent Syrian civilians. They also call the attacks on Syria as coming from insurgency (denoting participants as Syrians, not the alQaeda/ISIS/ISIL/alNusra CIA/Mossad-trained, armed and supported mercenaries that we know they were), and mocked Assad calling them "terrorists." (How dare Assad call the Mossad/CIA-backed mercenaries trying to take Syria, as terrorists! Has he no decency!)

Nice reporting, AlJazeera! :bigsmile:

The article states that 2011 was the beginning of "the uprising", again promoting the "conflict" as being between Syria's citizens and the Syrian government under Assad, like it was a version of democrats and republicans arguing over tax percentages. There is no hint that what was really happening was exactly the M.O. of the CIA and Mossad fomenting a fake 'protest' with CIA/Mossad-trained, armed and supported mercenaries.

By extension, then who did the Syrian Army arrest and incarcerate? (Yes, I do believe that Syria did have some prisoners locked up. However, "100 prisons" with "thousands of prisoners" is as believable as "6 million Jews" or "40 beheaded babies.") In the USA, some innocent people do get put in prison, so I would say it is likely that some prisoner or prisoners in Syrian jails were 100% innocent of any crime against the State of Syria. But "thousands?" Why in Allah's name would Assad want to incarcerate thousands of innocent civilians, while fighting for his country's very existence?

"Between August 2011 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/assad-must-go-obama-says/2011/08/18/gIQAelheOJ_story.html), when President Obama first called on Assad to step down, and August 2014 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/world/middleeast/obama-weighs-military-strikes-to-aid-trapped-iraqis-officials-say.html), when the US intervened to bomb the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), Assad had used chemical weapons against thousands of civilians."
So, there it is. Proof undeniable! In writing! Published! AlJazeera's Yale graduate writer has stated that Assad used chemical weapons on thousands of civilians! Holy sh!t! It must be true, because AlJazeera printed it! Assad was fighting off Israel, in the form of alQaeda/ISIS/ISIL/alNusra, but Assad also decided to use chemical weapons against thousands of innocent Syrian civilians. Yeah, that's probably what happened.

(I wonder if our illustrious YaleJazeera writer is a Skull & Bonesman, like W Bush and John Kerry.)

As I said, you can find MOUNTAINS of bullsh!t propaganda, lies, spin about any and all Middle Eastern countries, including Israel itself. You could overwhelm me with "evidence" that Assad was indeed a dictator, was hated by the majority of Syrians, robbed the country's resources, drank the blood of beheaded babies, and had thousands of innocent Syrians imprisoned in 100 prisons around Syria. Go to CNN, NBC, MSNBC, Fox, ABC, New York Times, (now archived) major US magazines, or go directly to AIPAC and get all the "evidence" that Israel are the good guys in the Middle East.

...but, Syria was just overthrown by CIA/Mossad-trained, armed and supported mercenaries, for Israel and the Greater Israel Project. Syria was NOT overthrown as a rescue mission for innocent incarcerated Syrian citizens, nor to topple a dictator (that old, tired trope of the US State Department that should make you roll your eyes every time they roll it out.)

Like the subtitle of the movie PsyWar (https://metanoia-films.org/psywar/) says, the real battlefield is the mind. Narrative control. If ever you find yourself repeating ANYTHING that the US State Department, White House press corps, the Israeli government, or the corporate media are promoting, stop, drop and roll: you're on fire!

[Eric J (Viking)]

This is fast becoming a playground for the murderous henchmen, whoever they might be…🤔

SYRIAN SLAUGHTER-HOUSE: Behold What We Have Done by Overthrowing Assad in Syria

(Videos: WARNING-Graphic!)

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/behold-what-we-have-done-by-overthrowing-assad-in-syria

[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you Eric. That is what is being done. Intentionally, by “the West”.

That is why the author’s insistence upon "look at what you have done”, “that is the result of your vote” is so justified, so right. Wilful total destruction and scorched earth, it is revealed everywhere. Out of politeness I say to people where I live – most everything in them is pulped, so only "shock and awe" utterances can still get some vibration into the pudding – “what is happening is what we have wanted and wished for, what we continue to want and wish for, what we will never stop wanting and wishing for”. (We want these soldiers to be machine-gunned, we want those Palestinians to get their innards scrambled.) And then they look or walk away as of I had burped while swallowing down a glass of mousseux. What I, more brutally, mean however, is: “what is happening is what you have wanted and wished for (...) what you will never stop wishing for“.

But honestly, every time I feel the upsurge in me of indignation, disgust, wrath – which, if I had been living in the "theatre of war", had long since led to a suicidal act of attacking the evil – I am mortified and wonder at Life itself which certainly helps me finding the way to truthfullness, care, cherishing but also buys it at the price of evil allowed and done – by myself.

I am grateful for the factualities discovered and relayed on this forum, but the mostly ideological or political justifications of (the hypothesised reasons for) what is happening I feel to be callous, shallow against the hard facts of cruelty – our cruelty, delegated to the small-fry psychopaths who execute so well.

[Akasha]

Jeffrey Sachs on the Duran (https://odysee.com/@theduran:e/syria-power-vacuum-w-jeffrey-sachs:1) talking about Netanyahu and Pearle’s Clean Break policy document (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm), as well as the infamous “seven countries in five years” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Knt3rKTqCk) plan, and how all this has culminated with the fall of Syria.

[Michel Leclerc]

Opposed Zionist Israel


Second Son Syndrome . . .

And because of that, Bashar al-Assad was doomed from the very beginning. (William and Harry, Edward VIII and George VI - are there similarities? Second Son Syndrome is a known condition, the same as Middle Child, but in high profile families these conditions and traits will be magnified considerably). Whether Bashar was a weak leader or pragmatist depends on your own viewpoints, but he's survived nevertheless.

There are some great observations about Assad and Syria both here and on the Israel/etc war thread and perhaps this next comment would be better there but as an observer, Syria is a strategic/pivotal country for anyone with interests in the Middle East, and I just can't see Russia/BRICS letting it go in this manner, can you? It's extremely likely also that any number of strategies and outcomes have been put into AI and although "The only winning move is not to play" may be appropriate, it will nevertheless be ignored. Like the oreshnik missile, there needs to be something else which hasn't yet been considered.

PS: Interestingly, Donald Trump is also a Second Son.

And John Fitzgerald Kennedy..

[Eric J (Viking)]

This is why the Neocon Zionists hate Assad so much!

Exactly why are the Zio-Anglo-American perps so determined to wreck and ruin Assad’s reputation forever?

Because it’s those real bad guys who are doing all the mass murdering in Syria right now, especially committing a highly organized genocide against the Christian communities throughout the entire Levant, that’s why! As follows:

Khazarian Cabal lets loose ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusraand a whole
host of other murderous terrorist organizations in Syria to wipe
out the Christian, Alawite and Shiite communities
across the war-torn nation.

What follows is the well concealed back story that will never appear in the CIA’s Mockingbird Media.

Historical record tells the true story

The Assad government has a well established history of treating the Syrian people well. To hear the Syrians tell their story, Bashar al-Assad is nothing short of a living saint. In fact, the effusive adulations of his presidency are as common as the accolades from those who know him personally.

Al-Assad’s wife Asma — who was once called “A Rose in the Desert” — is equally lauded for her noble leadership and virtuous qualities. She is not only the beloved first wife of Assad, she’s also considered the mother of the Syrian people. The following revealing article was written about her just before the Arab Spring was carried out by the Zio-Anglo-American Axis.

Further reading. Excellent info below.

https://stateofthenation.info/?p=8528

[DustOff72]

It seems to me that in the early days of Bush's Global War Of Terror, the CIA shipped some prisoners to Syria to be tortured.

[Akasha]

.....it’s those real bad guys who are doing all the mass murdering in Syria right now, especially committing a highly organized genocide against the Christian communities throughout the entire Levant.....

Syrian born self-identifying Christian, middle east commentator and journalist (cynically arrested under zio-backed anti-terror laws in the UK last year), Richard Medhurst, shares his perspective on the current state of Syria.....and why that might be:


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[Thevortexpurple]

Bashar Al Assad has engaged in treason against the Syrian Arab Republic. The Syrian Arab Republic does not have a president anymore. The former president's house is under military occupation. I am a citizen of the United Arab Republic.