'Drones' EVERYWHERE, What's Going On?

[Tintin]

I'm not convinced that these IFOs, 'orbs', UAVs, whatever they purport to be that have been recorded have anything to do with what I'm about to share here, but, I'll pop this here so that it is recorded.

There seemed to have been an event, of a nuclear 'type', concerning material that had gone missing, according to the US NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission). The event recorded as 57455 occurred on December 5th in the New Jersey area. The link to their event report for December 13th is here: https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/2024/20241213en.html.No, that's not it. The missing 'radioactive material' was a very tiny thing only for medical use. Not like a dirty bomb! :)

Ah, right :)

HEGL-0132

https://www.sironacc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/GE-Medical-Sources-HEGL-0132.jpg

A Calibrator That Works with a PET Scanner is Missing
Although headlines might make you think that radioactive uranium for a dirty bomb is missing, that’s actually not the case at all. Instead, it’s a pin source that works with PET scanners.

Source: https://theverifiedreport.com/missing-radioactive-material-in-new-jersey/

[ExomatrixTV]

Investigating The New Jersey UAP "Drone" Crash Site (Pine Barrens) PART 1:

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Investigating The New Jersey UAP "Drone" Crash Site (Pine Barrens) forest part 1. The New Jersey drone crash that happened a few days ago supposedly was inside the Pine Barrens. These UAP sightings from New Jersey are becoming a very real thing and most citizens are worried.



"Drones A Psyop?” - Trump WARNS The Government KNOWS Origins Of MYSTERY New Jersey Drones:

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Patrick Bet-David analyzes President Trump's body language when questioned about drones near Bedminster. The discussion dives into drone sightings, government transparency, and potential military operations, raising questions about national security, public fear, and media narratives.


🔴 Trump Claims Military Knows What's Happening with Drones, Radioactive Material Lost - UWN 12/16/24:

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[grapevine]

Joe Asks Ex Navy Pilot (Ryan Graves) About Mysterious Drone Sightings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQMMtPKT5E&ab_channel=JREClips (15:10)
"They're coming from over the ocean" says Ryan Graves.
Interesting and relevant segment of Joe Rogan speaking with Ryan Graves but no defiitive information here. It cuts off a little abruptly so here's a link to the full interview which is 2 hours and 48 minutes and covers a lot more than the drone saga:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4t8UgcjKfM&ab_channel=PowerfulJRE

[ExomatrixTV]

Live New Jersey Drone Watch With Air Traffic Audio 12/17/2024:

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Seaside Park, NJ sunset is at 4:34 PM and partly cloudy weather is expected tonight, 12/17/2024. Both cameras are located in Seaside Park, Ocean County, NJ. 50 drones were reported coming ashore in this area. This is why I'm using them. They are remote cameras that I can't control. The views are fixed. One of the cameras is of lower quality and extremely light-sensitive. Moonlight can look like sunlight at times. If you know of a better light-sensitive camera on the Jersey coast, comment on this video and I'll add it to the feed (if it looks good and doesn't time out). The audio is live air traffic communications in the New Jersey area. If pilots see anything unusual (like the Oregon pilots on 12/8), we may hear them report it.


Live stream here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4z6bHpL7VQ)

https://imagedelivery.net/aeJ6ID7yrMczwy3WKNnwxg/a68fa090-abb3-48a8-4774-27edb34bdb00/w=800,h=600,format=webp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4z6bHpL7VQ)

[Inversion]

On 09/21/87 Ronald Reagan gave his famous alien threat speech to the 42nd session of the United Nations General Assembly in New York. They're now in the 79th session and their building is on 45th street (https://www.google.com/maps/place/United+Nations+Headquarters/@40.7489978,-73.9692221,205m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89c2591ce0874d11:0xc5fae28bdd3df635!8m2!3d40.7493281!4d-73.9679241!16zL20vMDE5dnNk?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) with 42nd next to it. The 42nd element is Molybdenum which was named after lead and the 79th is Gold. Using Logan (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119269-Logan-s-Insights-on-Decode-Your-Reality) Piette's logic of divining information it would be transmutation of lead to gold. Wernher von Braun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun) said the last card they'll play will be the alien one.

Google AI

Yes, the element molybdenum is named after lead because its name comes from the Greek word "molybdos" which means "lead" - essentially, early researchers mistook molybdenum minerals for lead ores, leading to its name being derived from the Greek word for lead.

Royal Society of Chemistry (https://www.rsc.org/periodic-table/)

M42 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118618-The-Washington-DC-Boundary-Stones-and-M42&p=1503907&viewfull=1#post1503907)

Who is running the United States? (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123367-Who-is-running-the-United-States&p=1625748&viewfull=1#post1625748)

John D. Rockefeller Jr. bought then donated the land where the UN building sits in 1946 and it's a stone's throw from Trump Tower. From what I heard they slaughtered animals on that land prior as if to prime the area in a sacrificial logic. I believe that came from a more recent Sean David Morton video possibly with Kerry Cassidy or Michael Salla.

The video happens to be 0:42/0:43 long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAAHgAuti84

[Mike]

I'm at work and I have not listened to this, but Tim Pool is a credible guy so I trust the headline..

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[ExomatrixTV]

"China is 10 Years Ahead" - Swarming Drones & Microwave Weapons | Official Preview:

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Joe Lonsdale (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Joe%20Lonsdale) dives deep into the groundbreaking technology shaping the future of warfare: Directed Energy Weapons (DEWs) (https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/directed-energy-weapons-maui/). He introduces Epirus and its revolutionary microwave weapon system, Leonidas, designed to neutralize drone swarms with unparalleled efficiency. Amid concerns surrounding recent drone activity in New Jersey, Joe discusses the critical role of electronic warfare and AI-powered defenses in securing borders, protecting infrastructure, and countering emerging threats. From cost-effective solutions to drone warfare to the challenges posed by global adversaries like China, this episode provides a compelling look at the next generation of military technology.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

I'm not convinced that these IFOs, 'orbs', UAVs, whatever they purport to be that have been recorded have anything to do with what I'm about to share here, but, I'll pop this here so that it is recorded.

There seemed to have been an event, of a nuclear 'type', concerning material that had gone missing, according to the US NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission). The event recorded as 57455 occurred on December 5th in the New Jersey area. The link to their event report for December 13th is here: https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/2024/20241213en.html.No, that's not it. The missing 'radioactive material' was a very tiny thing only for medical use. Not like a dirty bomb! :)

if these are drones trying to sniff out nuclear radiation (or what ever they were seeking) that was stolen/went missing, you wouldnt have 30 of em flying around willynilly and ****, i would imagine the drones would be set up, like 10 drones in a straight line 10 meters apart and sweeping over the land in a grid like approach.

I dont know if these are man made or off world, but ive not been this excited for yonks, one other thing, i videod a craft that flew upto me in my backyard and then did a U turn and flew away whence it come from, and NO NOISE at all.

This was over a yr ago and i posted my vid here, i think i called it "UFO from my backyard" or something like that, i said as i was actually filming that i reconed it was the size of a two seater Cessna, and it looked exactly like some of the drones we have seen with the lights flashing, the one i videoed only had white lights, no FAA red and green....... RRR

[norman]

I've only skimmed a few sections of this conversation so I don't know what they get into if anything. If that doesn't meet your criteria skip this post.

He seems quite knowledgeable about the practicalities of flight.

https://x.com/uncertainvector/status/1869084552037306462
1869084552037306462

[Eva2]

This is from James Corbett substack dated December 8. I did a search and didn't find it posted but if I missed it, please delete this post.

https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/the-drone-wars-you-are-not-prepared

'The Drone Wars: You Are Not Prepared

The Corbett Report
Dec 08, 2024

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49daa2e3-ff2e-4344-9c80-de9eeac43810_1920x1080.jpeg

by James Corbett
corbettreport.com
December 8, 2024

Do you wanna see the scariest sight in the world?

No, I'm not talking about terrorists or ninjas (or terrorist ninjas). I'm not talking about ghosts and goblins. I'm not even talking about Winnie the Pooh and Popeye.

I'm talking about this:

See link for video from the beginning of the Dragon Boat Festival in Shenzhen in June 2023

For those not in the know, that is a drone show put on by the Chicoms to mark the beginning of the Dragon Boat Festival in Shenzhen in June 2023. And your reaction to that scene says more about you than you may realize.

If you just had a shiver down your spine and you can taste that tang of existential dread in the back of your throat, then congratulations! You have your head screwed on straight.

But if you thought "oh, how pretty!" then it seems you are nowhere near prepared for what is coming.

Either way, you need to read about the coming drone wars and what they mean for the future of humanity.

THE TECH
By this point, we all know about Spot, the cute, dancing "agile mobile robot" from Boston Dynamics.

https://bostondynamics.com/products/spot/

And we've all witnessed Atlas—the slightly menacing, backflipping, bipedal "dynamic humanoid robot" (also from Boston Dynamics)—doing its gymnastics routine

https://bostondynamics.com/atlas/

And we've all been filled with joy at the sight of ONYX's amphibious-capable Ghost Robotics V60 robotic dog paddling around in the water.'

This longish "article" consists of a number of videos as well and I think instead of copying here, it is easier to read/watch the article directly from the link at the top. I thought it was interesting.

[Phoenix1304]

In one of the vids posted here someone made a very good point that if this was just a gov. psyop, orbs and drones wouldn’t have appeared all over the world at the same time. They’re not all in on it.

Here’s an orb vid. That looks nothing like a drone and I’m more convinced than ever that there’s several things going on at once here but the deep state have jumped on the opportunity to ramp up the alien invasion scenario and get everyone confused and frightened just b4 the inauguration and hopefully put a stop to it. They’re rushing and in a panic imo, so it’s all likely to backfire very badly for them. Aw shame.

1868847287117791548

[Tintin]

I'm not convinced that these IFOs, 'orbs', UAVs, whatever they purport to be that have been recorded have anything to do with what I'm about to share here, but, I'll pop this here so that it is recorded.

There seemed to have been an event, of a nuclear 'type', concerning material that had gone missing, according to the US NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission). The event recorded as 57455 occurred on December 5th in the New Jersey area. The link to their event report for December 13th is here: https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/2024/20241213en.html.No, that's not it. The missing 'radioactive material' was a very tiny thing only for medical use. Not like a dirty bomb! :)

Ah, right :)

HEGL-0132

https://www.sironacc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/GE-Medical-Sources-HEGL-0132.jpg

A Calibrator That Works with a PET Scanner is Missing
Although headlines might make you think that radioactive uranium for a dirty bomb is missing, that’s actually not the case at all. Instead, it’s a pin source that works with PET scanners.

Source: https://theverifiedreport.com/missing-radioactive-material-in-new-jersey/

And to further cement this, here's a clip from a Chris Martenson presentation. Hey, he used the exact same picture I did :p :bigsmile:

Anyway....

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1869034232250531840/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/2waH-Evo9Z8P5vKZ.mp4?tag=12

[pyrangello]

PLASMOID ORBS Take Down NEW JERSEY DRONES And Wright-Patterson Closes Due To Heavy UAP Activity - I highly recommend watching this , this is one of the most fascinating videos I've watched in a long time. 30 minutes, get some popcorn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvSxo-IsAbc&t=179s
pvSxo-IsAbc

[Bill Ryan]

I've only skimmed a few sections of this conversation so I don't know what they get into if anything. If that doesn't meet your criteria skip this post.

He seems quite knowledgeable about the practicalities of flight.

https://x.com/uncertainvector/status/1869084552037306462
1869084552037306462Here's the 15 minute extract which focuses on the 'drones'.

It's one of the saner and more grounded (and intelligent and well-informed!) discussions that I've heard. My own frustration, maybe shared by many readers here, is how ILL-informed the vast majority of the video commentaries are. :facepalm:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQMMtPKT5E

[T Smith]

I've only skimmed a few sections of this conversation so I don't know what they get into if anything. If that doesn't meet your criteria skip this post.

He seems quite knowledgeable about the practicalities of flight.

https://x.com/uncertainvector/status/1869084552037306462
1869084552037306462Here's the 15 minute extract which focuses on the 'drones'.

It's one of the saner and more grounded (and intelligent and well-informed!) discussions that I've heard. My own frustration, maybe shared by many readers here, is how ILL-informed the vast majority of the video commentaries are. :facepalm:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQMMtPKT5E

My impression is Ryan Graves is very well informed, but on a mid-level "need-to-know" basis... it's pretty laughable that the execuse not to engage is because the lack of a warrant? Or as Rogan would say, "... they don't even need a warrant to get into my phone..."

[Bill Ryan]

it's pretty laughable that the execuse not to engage is because the lack of a warrant? Or as Rogan would say, "... they don't even need a warrant to get into my phone..." There are so many silly excuses. Another we've heard is that they can't shoot these things down because someone on the ground might get hurt. (OMG!)

(It's rather like it being unsafe for the Secret Service to be stationed on a 1:12 sloping roof :ROFL:)

[Denise/Dizi]

Pardon me if someone has already posted this conclusion, because I haven't yet had the time to read the entire history of the thread, but I thought they finally admitted that the drones were not drones at all, but more, legal testing of individual flying vehicles?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQpnqGVDk_w

This news clip explains a lot. The drones, the location, the lights on many of them. The reason they have come out to say they're legally there and why they're not shooting them down....The air light markings on them, mimic the small plane requirements... It just makes sense.

Although there are other drones that are worthy of concern? I believe they're hyping these as something to be worried about.

[Did You See Them]

I could go with the above explanation except for the issue of the ones over military establishments in so many countries all at the same time.

All unknown.

That's what started this flap so to speak.

[Denise/Dizi]

I could go with the above explanation except for the issue of the ones over military establishments in so many countries all at the same time.

All unknown.

That's what started this flap so to speak.

Could it be that they're unrelated and those over bases belong to the bases, deployed for their own security, and being seen, so they have to make a story about how they're not ours?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Mind-Blowing NJ UFO Drone Footage—Within the Last 24 HOURS -

Short video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWPb_3L_-SE?si=Gq7KHP2EqaXDyaCE

Further info

Colonel Douglas MacGregor (Rtd) posted this explosive message. Note that he posted it on 17th December - and there are 17 words in the post. What is our favourite letter of the alphabet, again...??

https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1868733800072855633?t=Q_UlC-sRoqMSWIIHbuvpGQ&s=09

Two important posts from Ezra Cohen.

Post 1
December holds the answer.
Not all will celebrate. Eyes open.


Post 2
First, the drones. Next, the truth. This is just the beginning. Are you ready for what’s coming?

🤷‍♂️

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1869394178532364438

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"Elon is behind the drones. It will make him money somehow." 🤪

This is the level at which the Woke are capable of reasoning. 😅

— Emergent Perspective (@_emergent_) December 18, 2024



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfFuuDzWAAA_dwY?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Bill Ryan]

https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1869394178532364438

"Elon is behind the drones. It will make him money somehow." 🤪
This is the level at which the Woke are capable of reasoning. 😅

I wrote (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123945-Drones-EVERYWHERE-What-s-Going-On&p=1646604&viewfull=1#post1646604) a few days ago:


It's not an invasion. It's an IQ test.


A lot of people are failing! :ROFL:

[Did You See Them]

I could go with the above explanation except for the issue of the ones over military establishments in so many countries all at the same time.

All unknown.

That's what started this flap so to speak.

Could it be that they're unrelated and those over bases belong to the bases, deployed for their own security, and being seen, so they have to make a story about how they're not ours?

I think different militaries all reporting sightings of drones of unknown origin over bases within such a short space of time is highly unlikely to be a test or deployment of new equipment.
They may have then tried to intercept these "boggies" with some of their new drones to muddy the waters as to what was really happening, but I highly doubt they would deploy new security system at so many bases and then deny they are theirs.
A lot of what has been on the net seems like misidentifications of stuff since the initial sightings, adding a further complexity to the what was happening.

[Did You See Them]

Here is a vid of boomerang craft that is doing the rounds - real or not I don't know ?

https://youtu.be/rHbXf6cx7O8?si=E9famQJRM7UyjYVe


I'd like to put the below article from the November RCM&E magazine for people's consideration.

[OopsWrongPlanet?]

Richard Dolan has just posted a video update but (in my opinion) it's way too tentative and anodyne. (The link is here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3zwZHsfdQI) for anyone who wants to watch it.)

However, below that video is the best comment I've yet seen anywhere. :ROFL:

It's not an invasion. It's an IQ test.


"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."

:-)

[SilentFeathers]

it's pretty laughable that the excuse not to engage is because the lack of a warrant? Or as Rogan would say, "... they don't even need a warrant to get into my phone..."

I'm starting to think we are all being played....the master distracter has succeeded again!

[Dick]

Maybe it’s said here before, but the first thing popped up in my head was said by Werner von Braun:

The last card they draw is the alien card, and it’s all a lie…..

[Tintin]

Maybe it’s said here before, but the first thing popped up in my head was said by Werner von Braun:

The last card they draw is the alien card, and it’s all a lie…..

Yes :thumbsup: RatRodRob had mentioned this on the complementary 'POLL' thread, here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123951-POLL-Where-are-the-mystery-drones-coming-from.&p=1646942&viewfull=1#post1646942). There's a lot of murk around all this and at the moment I'm calling this an 'experiment' that is cloaking some other activity of what we call the 'Deep State', and reminiscent of Orson Welles and the Mercury Theatre War of the Worlds broadcast in 1938.

(This has been in our library for a number of years now and anyone interested in listening to this brilliant piece can hear that here: https://avalonlibrary.net/War_of_the_Worlds_Mercury_Theatre_1938.mp3)

Here's the post with Carol Roisin's citing of the quote you used, copied and pasted from the 'POLL' thread:

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2- These are part of TPTB that are getting us to be wary and eventually to be afraid of these "craft", so we will believe the "Fake UFO Invasion" that Carol Rosin learned about from Wernher Von Braun.

RRR

Yes, here's a clip to which you refer, here:

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1868148173732036608/pu/vid/avc1/820x536/BXERagSMSRTrinim.mp4?tag=12

[seehas]

In one of the vids posted here someone made a very good point that if this was just a gov. psyop, orbs and drones wouldn’t have appeared all over the world at the same time. They’re not all in on it.

Here’s an orb vid. That looks nothing like a drone and I’m more convinced than ever that there’s several things going on at once here but the deep state have jumped on the opportunity to ramp up the alien invasion scenario and get everyone confused and frightened just b4 the inauguration and hopefully put a stop to it. They’re rushing and in a panic imo, so it’s all likely to backfire very badly for them. Aw shame.

1868847287117791548

how do people respond when they experience this, with love or with fear this is part of the big test i guess. i have no doubt that there are actual "Drones" in the air that are controlled by the government but the phenomenon itself is something entirely different.

i wouldnt call it "IQ" test its more a spiritual test and the "IQ" mostly interfers with the heart/crown-chakra connection to the higher self.

[Mike]

When UFO researcher John Keel was observing these orbs in the sky in the 60's and 70's, he found ways to communicate with them. For instance, sometimes he'd use a powerful flashlight to signal Morse code, telling the orbs to descend, or blink on and off 5 times ..and sure enough the orbs would respond to the commands!

This is even crazier: he once invented his own form of Morse code, without telling anyone, and gave the orbs similar commands as he had before. And the orbs knew the damn made up code:). They responded exactly like they had when he used regular Morse code.

I've been taking walks at night armed with a flashlight hoping to get a glimpse at one of these orbs/drones/whatever, and I'm going to attempt some communication using my own made up form of Morse code. I have a few simple commands. Will let everyone know what happens if I'm fortunate enough to have an encounter.

[SilentFeathers]

When UFO researcher John Keel was observing these orbs in the sky in the 60's and 70's, he found ways to communicate with them. For instance, sometimes he'd use a powerful flashlight to signal Morse code, telling the orbs to descend, or blink on and off 5 times ..and sure enough the orbs would respond to the commands!

This is even crazier: he once invented his own form of Morse code, without telling anyone, and gave the orbs similar commands as he had before. And the orbs knew the damn made up code:). They responded exactly like they had when he used regular Morse code.

I've been taking walks at night armed with a flashlight hoping to get a glimpse at one of these orbs/drones/whatever, and I'm going to attempt some communication using my own made up form of Morse code. I have a few simple commands. Will let everyone know what happens if I'm fortunate enough to have an encounter.

Personally those orbs or other strange craft/phenomenon that may or may not be ET or off world is completely different from what these drones are. These drones in my opinion are obviously ours, almost certainly military.

[onawah]

There is a logical explanation for the drones here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122628-Transhumanism-Upgrade-Wireless-Body-Area-Network-Internet-of-Bodies-Behaviour&p=1647539&viewfull=1#post1647539
(...That being, they are monitoring the electrical activity of bodies as part of the technological transhumanist/depopulation agenda, though it is still in the initial stages.)

Update: There may be several agendas ongoing simultaneously, with some serving as coverups for others...

[Tintin]

Another report here from Project Constitution, who I know nothing about so I don't know how trustworthy they are. What I would say is that I'd much prefer that we have some reassuring proof of due diligence of some kind having been undertaken with these 'sources' or else it is yet another potential distraction. Still, it may have some value, we'll see. The video source - below - is credited to a Moe Sargi on YouTube.

Recording this here so we have another reference point, however valuable or not. Many of the comments below the post on X are calling 'BS', and this may just be exactly that. I'll let the hearer decide:

(We may also have a fair few candidates for the 'Known Hoax' thread as well after all this.)

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Summary text:



🚨 BREAKING: Anonymous Military Official Exposes Truth About Mysterious Drones

An anonymous military official with top-secret clearance from Fort Drum has come forward with explosive claims about the mysterious drones that have been spotted worldwide, including above U.S. military bases. According to this insider:

🛑 The Military is Lying to Us: These drones have been conducting recon missions at bases globally. Despite being labeled as harmless or unidentified, the military knows their purpose is nefarious.

✋ Strict Orders NOT to Engage: Soldiers have been explicitly told not to shoot them down, despite their clear threat. Military personnel are eager to act but are restrained by direct orders.

✈️ Unmatched Technology:
•These drones don’t emit heat signatures.
•They aren’t running on standard batteries or gasoline, given their ability to outlast military jets.
•One drone led a fighter jet on a 400-mile chase before the jet had to turn back due to fuel depletion.
•They appear to “scan” buildings, including munitions hangers, mapping out corners as if probing their contents.

⚠️ Preparing for a Larger Attack: The official believes these drones are conducting recon in preparation for a larger, coordinated strike. Their activity has already shut down Fort Drum several times, causing disruptions to operations.

This source is the most credible yet, with direct experience observing these drones and their alarming behavior. If true, this is a major national security issue that demands immediate transparency and action.

Why is our government keeping this from us? What’s the endgame here?

Source: https://x.com/ProjectConstitu/status/1869210052369793170

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1869209234253946880/vid/avc1/1280x720/hOjIXXJ5Ik7J_DDu.mp4?tag=16

[Mike]

When UFO researcher John Keel was observing these orbs in the sky in the 60's and 70's, he found ways to communicate with them. For instance, sometimes he'd use a powerful flashlight to signal Morse code, telling the orbs to descend, or blink on and off 5 times ..and sure enough the orbs would respond to the commands!

This is even crazier: he once invented his own form of Morse code, without telling anyone, and gave the orbs similar commands as he had before. And the orbs knew the damn made up code:). They responded exactly like they had when he used regular Morse code.

I've been taking walks at night armed with a flashlight hoping to get a glimpse at one of these orbs/drones/whatever, and I'm going to attempt some communication using my own made up form of Morse code. I have a few simple commands. Will let everyone know what happens if I'm fortunate enough to have an encounter.

Personally those orbs or other strange craft/phenomenon that may or may not be ET or off world is completely different from what these drones are. These drones in my opinion are obviously ours, almost certainly military.


I've been making the same case as you are here.

But what better way to find out than to offer verbal/telepathic or Morse code with a flashlight? Why the heck not? It would be interesting if we all took up this little experiment. I'd love to see the results it yields.

Most of what we're calling drones look like drones, but some of these objects look like orbs. Drones can look like orbs quite easily actually, so I'm not convinced the orb-like objects are indeed orbs ..but I'm willing to attempt some communication to find out. At the very least it's a proactive approach, more satisfying than sitting on our hands and waiting for an "official" explanation.

[SilentFeathers]

When UFO researcher John Keel was observing these orbs in the sky in the 60's and 70's, he found ways to communicate with them. For instance, sometimes he'd use a powerful flashlight to signal Morse code, telling the orbs to descend, or blink on and off 5 times ..and sure enough the orbs would respond to the commands!

This is even crazier: he once invented his own form of Morse code, without telling anyone, and gave the orbs similar commands as he had before. And the orbs knew the damn made up code:). They responded exactly like they had when he used regular Morse code.

I've been taking walks at night armed with a flashlight hoping to get a glimpse at one of these orbs/drones/whatever, and I'm going to attempt some communication using my own made up form of Morse code. I have a few simple commands. Will let everyone know what happens if I'm fortunate enough to have an encounter.

Personally those orbs or other strange craft/phenomenon that may or may not be ET or off world is completely different from what these drones are. These drones in my opinion are obviously ours, almost certainly military.


I've been making the same case as you are here.

But what better way to find out than to offer verbal/telepathic or Morse code with a flashlight? Why the heck not? It would be interesting if we all took up this little experiment. I'd love to see the results it yields.

Most of what we're calling drones look like drones, but some of these objects look like orbs. Drones can look like orbs quite easily actually, so I'm not convinced the orb-like objects are indeed orbs ..but I'm willing to attempt some communication to find out. At the very least it's a proactive approach, more satisfying than sitting on our hands and waiting for an "official" explanation.

I seen one (an orb) twice in two weeks about 15 years ago. It was extremely obvious to me that it was "paying attention" to me and completely aware of my thoughts to some degree. It was bright white and so bright I couldn't really make out its shape or the material it was made out of. For the most part it just appeared to be a ball/sphere of light.

I'm not crazy nor was I hallucinating as for some odd reason both of the sightings of this thing my ex wife and daughter were both with me and seen it just as clearly as I saw it. I also sensed it was "watching" my daughter closely too.

[ExomatrixTV]

3 Mins Ago: Joe Rogan EXPOSED? The Whole Secret About The U.S. "Drones":

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Joe Rogan EXPOSED? The Whole Secret About The U.S. "Drones" EVENTS WORLD EARTH SECRETS In New Jersey, a strikingly clear image of a "drone" (or more) has been discovered! A film crew for ABC news were shocked by the appearance of this glowing 'Energy Orb' of light in New Jersey. These are the ones that interest me more than the drones. Multiple witnesses are confirming this sighting what’s really happening in our skies?


Feds DISMISS mystery drones story DESPITE new evidence:

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Robby Soave and Amber Duke discuss the public's frustration over the mysterious drone sightings in northeast U.S.

[ExomatrixTV]

Joe Lonsdale - The AI-Driven EMP Weapon Built to Destroy New Jersey Drone Swarms:

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Joe Lonsdale is a technology entrepreneur and investor known for advancing defense technologies and national security innovations. As a co-founder of Palantir Technologies, he helped develop powerful data platforms to address global threats. Through his venture firm, 8VC, he has supported startups in AI, cybersecurity and battlefield intelligence, driving innovation at the intersection of technology and defense.

Lonsdale is a leading advocate for emerging military technologies, particularly directed energy weapons like high-energy lasers and microwave systems, which he sees as vital for missile defense and counter-drone operations. Committed to fostering public-private partnerships, he works to ensure the U.S. remains at the forefront of defense innovation while maintaining ethical oversight.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

When UFO researcher John Keel was observing these orbs in the sky in the 60's and 70's, he found ways to communicate with them. For instance, sometimes he'd use a powerful flashlight to signal Morse code, telling the orbs to descend, or blink on and off 5 times ..and sure enough the orbs would respond to the commands!

This is even crazier: he once invented his own form of Morse code, without telling anyone, and gave the orbs similar commands as he had before. And the orbs knew the damn made up code:). They responded exactly like they had when he used regular Morse code.

I've been taking walks at night armed with a flashlight hoping to get a glimpse at one of these orbs/drones/whatever, and I'm going to attempt some communication using my own made up form of Morse code. I have a few simple commands. Will let everyone know what happens if I'm fortunate enough to have an encounter.

Hi Mike, when you go for your nightly walks with your flashlight, do you walk the streets in your city/town, or are you out in the country.
What time do you take these walks...?
i go out at bout 7-8 pm and sometimes im up till 3am, its in the late hrs after midnight that i mostly see and video weird stuff, im in a small city of about 300,000 people. :thumbsup:

[RatRodRob...RRR]

When UFO researcher John Keel was observing these orbs in the sky in the 60's and 70's, he found ways to communicate with them. For instance, sometimes he'd use a powerful flashlight to signal Morse code, telling the orbs to descend, or blink on and off 5 times ..and sure enough the orbs would respond to the commands!

This is even crazier: he once invented his own form of Morse code, without telling anyone, and gave the orbs similar commands as he had before. And the orbs knew the damn made up code:). They responded exactly like they had when he used regular Morse code.

I've been taking walks at night armed with a flashlight hoping to get a glimpse at one of these orbs/drones/whatever, and I'm going to attempt some communication using my own made up form of Morse code. I have a few simple commands. Will let everyone know what happens if I'm fortunate enough to have an encounter.

Personally those orbs or other strange craft/phenomenon that may or may not be ET or off world is completely different from what these drones are. These drones in my opinion are obviously ours, almost certainly military.

Those car sized drones must be noisy, atleast the ones made by man, ive been with a mate with his little 12 x 12 inch drone and that can easily be heard in the dead of night, these car sized drones appear to be quite low and should be able to be heard, video should even pick up their whirring sound......unless they are off world and have some kind of noise cancelling tech.
If you are correct in saying they are "ours" then someone is obviously BSing, Trump said that the Gov knows exactly what they are but are keeping it secret, it worries me as to what could happen before Jan 20th, "they' will try and do whatever it takes to prevent Trumps inauguration......................... RRR

[s7e6e]

Nothing to do with Trump, he's part of the agenda. However it could be a distraction from the Epstein / Diddy's lists. If some of the filmed orbs are genuine, than the whole show is just damage control...which could be great news!

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Another report here from Project Constitution, who I know nothing about so I don't know how trustworthy they are. What I would say is that I'd much prefer that we have some reassuring proof of due diligence of some kind having been undertaken with these 'sources' or else it is yet another potential distraction. Still, it may have some value, we'll see. The video source - below - is credited to a Moe Sargi on YouTube.

Recording this here so we have another reference point, however valuable or not. Many of the comments below the post on X are calling 'BS', and this may just be exactly that. I'll let the hearer decide:

(We may also have a fair few candidates for the 'Known Hoax' thread as well after all this.)

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Summary text:



🚨 BREAKING: Anonymous Military Official Exposes Truth About Mysterious Drones

An anonymous military official with top-secret clearance from Fort Drum has come forward with explosive claims about the mysterious drones that have been spotted worldwide, including above U.S. military bases. According to this insider:

🛑 The Military is Lying to Us: These drones have been conducting recon missions at bases globally. Despite being labeled as harmless or unidentified, the military knows their purpose is nefarious.

✋ Strict Orders NOT to Engage: Soldiers have been explicitly told not to shoot them down, despite their clear threat. Military personnel are eager to act but are restrained by direct orders.

✈️ Unmatched Technology:
•These drones don’t emit heat signatures.
•They aren’t running on standard batteries or gasoline, given their ability to outlast military jets.
•One drone led a fighter jet on a 400-mile chase before the jet had to turn back due to fuel depletion.
•They appear to “scan” buildings, including munitions hangers, mapping out corners as if probing their contents.

⚠️ Preparing for a Larger Attack: The official believes these drones are conducting recon in preparation for a larger, coordinated strike. Their activity has already shut down Fort Drum several times, causing disruptions to operations.

This source is the most credible yet, with direct experience observing these drones and their alarming behavior. If true, this is a major national security issue that demands immediate transparency and action.

Why is our government keeping this from us? What’s the endgame here?

Source: https://x.com/ProjectConstitu/status/1869210052369793170

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1869209234253946880/vid/avc1/1280x720/hOjIXXJ5Ik7J_DDu.mp4?tag=16

One thing i dont understand is if they are "ours" , why do they fly around lit up like a xmas tree..?. thats not very inconspicuous, surly they can navigate at night, so why not fly around with NO lights, unless they want to be seen.
I wonder why they need drones for recon missions, there are prolly satellites that could do that, maybe.
Or maybe they use drones so they can be much closer to the subject matter, just like its said they could be tryin to detect some nuclear presence.

[Kryztian]

As Richard Dolan predicted, the drone issue would be used to take away civil rights and grant more power to the government. Apparently, the U.S. Federal government which has made the case that drones are no threat and doesn't feel it is their responsibilities to give us any answers about what these drones are, despite the one trillion dollar a year Defense Department budget. Yet they also feels that drones are a threat and they need to have more power and invade your privacy.

Senators Chuck Schumer (New York) and Gary Peters (Michigan) ramble on as if the current drone situation is all about amateur drone hobbyists who try and fly their drones over football stadiums and airports, while at the same time saying the situation is "urgent" and they need to rush through this bill really quickly without any debate. Then, Rand Paul comes and addresses at length, how their bill doesn't solve any of the real problems with the SUV size mystery drones shutting down military bases and it just takes away civil rights from U.S. citizens.

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[mojo]

Was out tonight with Gen3 night vision and thermal scope. Two nights before my friend and another witness spotted a very large multiple lit array orbiting stationary for a short period before it flew off and in the same location for two nights. This is over southern Oregon. Tonight I was hoping to film it but there was no sighting in that location but far off on the opposite direction were two smaller flashing objects tailing one another and moving slower than an airplane which did peak my interest.

[Abondance]

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This excellent video highlights phenomena related to the apparitions of drones and orbs. Especially massive movements of birds to the north which is completely contrary to the habits of birds in this season. Is it a consequence of the presence of drones or do the 2 phenomena have to do with preventing an important future event, of a natural order? Mass flight animals are always precursors of significant geological events.

[silver birch]

Unidentified objects are so 1950's and 1950.000 BC. No PUN intended.

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This painting is probably modern, as Worth1000dotCom is a design community.

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Unidentified broads.

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This is from an old cave, Sego Canyon Utah.

[Vicus]

In one of the vids posted here someone made a very good point that if this was just a gov. psyop, orbs and drones wouldn’t have appeared all over the world at the same time. They’re not all in on it.

Here’s an orb vid. That looks nothing like a drone and I’m more convinced than ever that there’s several things going on at once here but the deep state have jumped on the opportunity to ramp up the alien invasion scenario and get everyone confused and frightened just b4 the inauguration and hopefully put a stop to it. They’re rushing and in a panic imo, so it’s all likely to backfire very badly for them. Aw shame.

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how do people respond when they experience this, with love or with fear this is part of the big test i guess. i have no doubt that there are actual "Drones" in the air that are controlled by the government but the phenomenon itself is something entirely different.

i wouldnt call it "IQ" test its more a spiritual test and the "IQ" mostly interfers with the heart/crown-chakra connection to the higher self.



Yeah...after watching many videos it is clear for me that there are at least 2 drones types : "normal" mechanic human made, and another type like in this video, NOT mechanic ...(at least not "our" mechanic)

ONE interpretation from actual drone frenzy...

_ Maybe were first some "Alien" drones inspecting military compounds and to cover up later came the humans drones...to calm people ...maybe...and then wash their hands,

"we don't know what their are"... cashing fear and what not...no doubt "something" smell not kosha here...it stink!

[SilentFeathers]

Not sure if this is true or not....


FAA Issues Flight BAN Over Parts of New Jersey Until January 17th, All Are Listed As SECURITY Events
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And then there's this.....

FBI DRONE WARNING: More alerts for drone mystery in the sky, as public demands answers

Dec 18, 2024
The FBI field office in Newark urged New Jersey residents this week not to shoot down drones or point lasers at manned aircraft, taking to social media to warn against the dangerous — and possibly deadly — activity, which comes amid an uptick in reported drone sightings along the U.S. East Coast.

The drone sightings have prompted a collective sense of panic among residents, who have taken to social media to share photos and videos of believed drones captured in the darkened U.S. skies. The shared sense of fear-mongering has also prompted some vigilante-like responses, with some social media users documenting efforts to take matters into their own hands, including via laser beam.

In the statement, released by the FBI and New Jersey State Police, authorities expressly warned against such activities, citing an increase in pilots of manned aircraft in the area who have been hit in the eyes with lasers after being misidentified as a drone by someone on the ground.
Officials said there is also a concern that people on the ground could also mistakenly fire weapons at what they believe to be an Unmanned Aircraft Systems, or UAS, but is in fact a manned aircraft.

"FBI Newark, NJSP, and dozens of other agencies and law enforcement partners have been out every night for several weeks to legally track down operators acting illegally or with nefarious intent and using every available tool and piece of equipment to find the answers the public is seeking," the authorities said in the statement. "However, there could be dangerous and possibly deadly consequences if manned aircraft are targeted mistakenly as UAS."

They also noted how easy it can be for an individual on the ground to mistake a manned aircraft for a UAS.

"Misidentification often occurs when UAS are mistaken for more familiar objects such as manned aircraft, low-orbit satellites, or celestial bodies like planets or stars," they said.

"To improve accuracy and prevent false sightings, a variety of tools and techniques can be used to assist with the visual identification of suspected UAS. Accurate identification is critical for maintaining safety and ensuring appropriate responses to UAS activity."
The statement from the FBI field office and state police comes as New Jersey residents and lawmakers have voiced frustrations about the uptick in drone sightings and what they view as a lack of answers they have been given by the federal government in response.

Still, U.S. officials have sought to emphasize that the aircraft in question are not, in fact, a national security threat. Maj. Gen. Patrick S. Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, stressed to reporters during a briefing Tuesday that the drones are any sort of government asset, and ruled out the notion that they were any part of "experimental program" being tested by the U.S.

In a joint statement Monday, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, the Federal Aviation Administration and the Department of Defense said that, while they "recognize the concern" from the general public, there is no evidence that the drones are "anomalous" or a threat to public safety or to U.S. national security.

Separately, senior officials from the CIA, FBI, and DOD traveled to Capitol Hill Tuesday afternoon to brief lawmakers on the House Intelligence Committee on the uptick in drone sightings.
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[ClearWater]

Former CIA intelligence officer Andrew Bustamante talks about how the government benefits from lying to the public.

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"Andrew Bustamante breaks down the drone sightings that have been occurring in New York and New Jersey since 2019. From Chinese Spy balloons to UAPs, Andrew tells us what's really behind the drone sightings!"

[Dick]

How about this: interview from 1999

https://x.com/tntjohn1717/status/1869656523120476487
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[Eric J (Viking)]

Cheers Dick… interesting find….

I wonder what that is…George Lucas envious! 2025 just around the corner, 🤷‍♂️


How about this: intervieuw from 1999

https://x.com/tntjohn1717/status/1869656523120476487?s=61

[Moemers]

any RV people out there looking at this?

[Helvetic]

Joseph P. Farrell | News and Views from the Nefarium | Dec. 19, 2024

Source: gizadeathstar.com (http://gizadeathstar.com)

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Description:

Drones drones drones!!! Some are saying they're Chinese, and drones actually shut down Wright-Patterson Air Force Base... yea, that one...  AND, there's a bit of news coming out of the Bank of England that you may have missed while watching drones....

Articles:

Drones spotted near at least 17 military bases located next to Chinese-owned land in US (https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/us-news/drones-seen-by-17-military-bases-next-to-chinese-owned-us-land)

Drone Incursions Closed Wright-Patterson Air Force Base’s Airspace Friday Night (https://www.twz.com/air/drone-incursions-closed-wright-patterson-air-force-bases-airspace-friday-night)

[Bill Ryan]

I've NOT watched this yet, but I most certainly will: a two-and-a half hour livestream, which ended 6 hours ago. It featured:


Steve Bassett, Founder, Paradigm Research Group, co-Founder, Hollywood Disclosure Alliance
Chris Bledsoe, Experiencer, author, 'UFOs and God'
Georg Boch, ET Studies Course Facilitator, Ubiquity University
Richard Dolan, UFO historian, author, 'UFOs and the National Security State'
Richard Hoffman, Executive Director, Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies
Ron James, Director of Media, Mutual UFO Network (MUFON)
Birdie Jaworski, Remote Viewer, Founder, Albuquerque UFOs Network
Daniel Sheehan, President and General Counsel, New Paradigm Institute
Robert Searing, Director New Jersey MUFON
Kevin Wright, Press Officer, New Paradigm Institute



What’s happening with the “Drones” in our skies?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bun7tSE8n2E

Edit to add:
Just watch the first 3 minutes! :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

[SilentFeathers]

Joseph P. Farrell | News and Views from the Nefarium | Dec. 19, 2024

Source: gizadeathstar.com (http://gizadeathstar.com)

ZKMYBhFJJEU

Description:

Drones drones drones!!! Some are saying they're Chinese, and drones actually shut down Wright-Patterson Air Force Base... yea, that one...  AND, there's a bit of news coming out of the Bank of England that you may have missed while watching drones....

Articles:

Drones spotted near at least 17 military bases located next to Chinese-owned land in US (https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/us-news/drones-seen-by-17-military-bases-next-to-chinese-owned-us-land)

Drone Incursions Closed Wright-Patterson Air Force Base’s Airspace Friday Night (https://www.twz.com/air/drone-incursions-closed-wright-patterson-air-force-bases-airspace-friday-night)

I agree with Farrell that this is one huge distraction. I'll take it a step further though and add that it is also a "conditioning" tactic.

In my opinion, we are being played like fools right now, especially when it comes to everyone claiming they don't know what's going on or who is doing this.

In my opinion it's a huge distraction and conditioning operation being done by the alphabet agencies and deep state, likely preparing for a martial law scenario or something similar.

I believe we are about to see something huge go down and it will most likely not be very enjoyable for anyone.

[Raven]

Thanks for the edit :-)

[wondering]

About 2/3 through the video "what's happening with the drones in our skies"...a group of outstanding presenters, I'm so glad you posted it, Bill.

[Bill Ryan]

About 2/3 through the video "what's happening with the drones in our skies"...a group of outstanding presenters, I'm so glad you posted it, Bill.Yes, a world-class discussion, maybe the one we've been waiting patiently for. (World-class moderation too, from Jim Garrison.) I can't recommend this too highly. :stars:

[Mike]

any RV people out there looking at this?


At about the 1hr 8min mark in Bill's post above (#305) a remote viewer offers her interpretation.

[Mike]

When UFO researcher John Keel was observing these orbs in the sky in the 60's and 70's, he found ways to communicate with them. For instance, sometimes he'd use a powerful flashlight to signal Morse code, telling the orbs to descend, or blink on and off 5 times ..and sure enough the orbs would respond to the commands!

This is even crazier: he once invented his own form of Morse code, without telling anyone, and gave the orbs similar commands as he had before. And the orbs knew the damn made up code:). They responded exactly like they had when he used regular Morse code.

I've been taking walks at night armed with a flashlight hoping to get a glimpse at one of these orbs/drones/whatever, and I'm going to attempt some communication using my own made up form of Morse code. I have a few simple commands. Will let everyone know what happens if I'm fortunate enough to have an encounter.

Hi Mike, when you go for your nightly walks with your flashlight, do you walk the streets in your city/town, or are you out in the country.
What time do you take these walks...?
i go out at bout 7-8 pm and sometimes im up till 3am, its in the late hrs after midnight that i mostly see and video weird stuff, im in a small city of about 300,000 people. :thumbsup:


I'd love to hear about the weird stuff you're seeing!

I'm going out right now matter of fact. Normally I'll do this a little later between 11pm and midnight. I walk around my town, which is kinda dead by that hour.

[onawah]

Dr. Farrell's take makes a lot of sense to me, when connecting what seem to be very relevant dots.
The CCP is quite insane and is spending prodigous amounts of money on last ditch projects aimed at taking down the US in various ways, many focused on hacking, so it seems very likely they could have found new ways to spy on the US since the spy balloons didn't work out so well.
Considering the Biden Admin was in cahoots with the CCP it wouldn't surprise me if their handlers are permitting a new drone invasion during the last gasp of their rule.
And of course, it would be a great time for the Deep State to stage the first steps in their psyop phony ET invasion, allowing them to install COG and take over the government and cancel citizen's rights.
Though Dr. Farrell doesn't mention this and may not be aware of it yet, there also seems to be a new psyop involving using drones to monitor the health of private citizens to see how the transhumanist agenda is going, especially in relation to how well the self-replicating nanobots (that are inhabiting most if not all bodies by now) are working.
There is a great excuse for that psyop, as they can say that it is designed to intercept and prevent heart attacks, strokes, etc. before they happen (though of course it is often the nanotech that is causing such events).
See:https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/6g-control-grid-with-dr-robert-young?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1658626&post_id=153298517&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=p7227&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87731-EMFs-Are-Destroying-Our-Health&p=1647537&viewfull=1#post1647537
Finally, kudos to Daniel Sheehan in the compilation here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Bun7tSE8n2E
...for not displaying an agenda based on belief system, but for listing all the possibilities and admitting that there is too much info being withheld at this point to allow for any accurate conclusions that cover all the bases.
His honesty reveals the hypocrisy of those who want to appear so sure and knowledgable.

Joseph P. Farrell | News and Views from the Nefarium | Dec. 19, 2024

Source: gizadeathstar.com (http://gizadeathstar.com)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZKMYBhFJJEU

Description:

Drones drones drones!!! Some are saying they're Chinese, and drones actually shut down Wright-Patterson Air Force Base... yea, that one...  AND, there's a bit of news coming out of the Bank of England that you may have missed while watching drones....

Articles:

Drones spotted near at least 17 military bases located next to Chinese-owned land in US (https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/us-news/drones-seen-by-17-military-bases-next-to-chinese-owned-us-land)

Drone Incursions Closed Wright-Patterson Air Force Base’s Airspace Friday Night (https://www.twz.com/air/drone-incursions-closed-wright-patterson-air-force-bases-airspace-friday-night)

[SilentFeathers]

any RV people out there looking at this?


At about the 1hr 8min mark in Bill's post above (#305) a remote viewer offers her interpretation.

I just listened to the remote viewer "Birdie" in that video and what she said was extremely interesting and thought provoking. I'm not so sure I'm in complete agreement with her but what she said about this unknown intelligence being deeply concerned about the state of humanity and how humanity is so disconnected with the planet really made me think about several things. She basically validated a few things I've personally had on my mind lately.

Something is seriously wrong with so many things right now, I think most of us absolutely are sensing the same type of danger or concern. I've been calling it a feeling of "dread" but I'm not so sure that is the correct word. It may be more of what this remote viewer is calling it, an extreme feeling of concern, an extreme felling of being disconnected from what and who we are, and what our relationship to each other and this planet really means.

I've also been saying a lot lately that we are witnessing a collapse of civilization in real time, but, perhaps I am wrong about that to....perhaps we are actually witnessing a breakdown and collapse of humanity itself.

This breakdown of humanity and our connection to each other, the earth, the cosmos has been happening since the beginning of time to some degree or another, but, this last decade or so and especially these last few years the collapse of humanity has escalated so much and so fast reality itself seems to have fractured in to "incomplete" pieces. People seem to be grabbing whatever sections of these pieces of reality that are the most easiest to grab at the time....nothing can be complete or connected any more.

I hope I'm make sense to some degree, it's very hard to put my thoughts to words right now.

Regardless, I think most of us know with a great certainty that something is terribly wrong right now, more wrong than it ever has been, perhaps since the beginning of this age or cycle we are in. I'm wondering if our ancestors who were alive right before the last ELE type of event, the younger dryas, were feeling the same type of concern and sensing something big was about to happen?

I'm quite certain we are quickly reaching a major turning point that will affect all of humanity forever....

[Moemers]

any RV people out there looking at this?


At about the 1hr 8min mark in Bill's post above (#305) a remote viewer offers her interpretation.

thanks for the time stamp bud.

would obviously be better if she'd been blind to the target and you could tell the analytical overlay was probably splashed across her vision like spattered paint but she does say i dont know, i couldnt tell. i dont know her by name...anyone else have more experience with this woman?

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oh there were two of us typing a response at the same time specifically about the remote viewing section? spooky action at a distance bruh

[Mike Gorman]

Joseph P. Farrell | News and Views from the Nefarium | Dec. 19, 2024

Source: gizadeathstar.com (http://gizadeathstar.com)

ZKMYBhFJJEU

Description:

Drones drones drones!!! Some are saying they're Chinese, and drones actually shut down Wright-Patterson Air Force Base... yea, that one...  AND, there's a bit of news coming out of the Bank of England that you may have missed while watching drones....

Articles:

Drones spotted near at least 17 military bases located next to Chinese-owned land in US (https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/us-news/drones-seen-by-17-military-bases-next-to-chinese-owned-us-land)

Drone Incursions Closed Wright-Patterson Air Force Base’s Airspace Friday Night (https://www.twz.com/air/drone-incursions-closed-wright-patterson-air-force-bases-airspace-friday-night)

I agree with Farrell that this is one huge distraction. I'll take it a step further though and add that it is also a "conditioning" tactic.

In my opinion, we are being played like fools right now, especially when it comes to everyone claiming they don't know what's going on or who is doing this.

In my opinion it's a huge distraction and conditioning operation being done by the alphabet agencies and deep state, likely preparing for a martial law scenario or something similar.

I believe we are about to see something huge go down and it will most likely not be very enjoyable for anyone.

There is a report that the Kamala/Biden crew have been called to the Whitehouse - breaking their planned 'holidays scheduling', might be nothing, but suspicious

[Applesprig]

Read " UFO OF GOD". These orbs are benevolant, conscious, "angelic" plasma dimensional beings. The military industrial complex knows this and is conducting their own drone operation to confuse the people because some of these drones are ours and others are inter dimensional plasmoids. "UFO Disclosure" will not come from our governments but from these beings themselves, they will appear everywhere.... it will be the beginning of humanity's awakening. Earthlings ( and our planet) is in danger from ourselves, they are making themselves known to all mankind to WAKE THE F××K UP.

[wondering]

I have felt, like others, that we are just biding our time and are on the brink of something enormous. My sense is that it is something ultimately redemptive for our world. That doesn't mean it is not catastrophic for our way of life, but that it is the way through.

[Bill Ryan]

A two-and-a half hour livestream, which ended 6 hours ago. It featured:


Steve Bassett, Founder, Paradigm Research Group, co-Founder, Hollywood Disclosure Alliance
Chris Bledsoe, Experiencer, author, 'UFOs and God'
Georg Boch, ET Studies Course Facilitator, Ubiquity University
Richard Dolan, UFO historian, author, 'UFOs and the National Security State'
Richard Hoffman, Executive Director, Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies
Ron James, Director of Media, Mutual UFO Network (MUFON)
Birdie Jaworski, Remote Viewer, Founder, Albuquerque UFOs Network
Daniel Sheehan, President and General Counsel, New Paradigm Institute
Robert Searing, Director New Jersey MUFON
Kevin Wright, Press Officer, New Paradigm Institute

What’s happening with the “Drones” in our skies?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bun7tSE8n2E

Edit to add:
Just watch the first 3 minutes! :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:~~~

I'm bumping this already. It was superb from beginning to end. The comments are all eulogizing this.


Can we please have more of these intelligent conversations please?
Excellence. I feel SO FORTUNATE to have this on my YOUTUBE FEED. Such thoughtful conversation it feels like I should've paid for it!
Utterly outstanding presentation by intelligent, articulate and informed experts.
Wow wow wow! What a gathering! Dolan, Bassett, Sheehan and Bledsoe…all on the same livestream!!!??? Holy cow, dream come true for those of us closely following.
Absolutely fantastic.
Can't thank you all enough.
What a comprehensive analysis of this situation by such a knowledgeable group of people. Thank you all for taking the time to express your views and share this information with the public.
Wow...what a great group of knowledgeable people.
Richard and Honorable Guests, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. This IS THE BEST PRESENTATION OUT THERE!

[Tintin]

There is a report that the Kamala/Biden crew have been called to the Whitehouse - breaking their planned 'holidays scheduling', might be nothing, but suspicious

Yes, picked up on that via X earlier, and much speculation abounds as one might expect. Amusingly one wit commented on a thread that they've probably rushed back for, quote.."...maybe it's Drag story hour..." :ROFL:

On a more serious note it is probably more likely to do with the current situation in Ukraine and may be tied to the overnight attacks on Kiev; that's my best guess.

[norman]

There is a report that the Kamala/Biden crew have been called to the Whitehouse - breaking their planned 'holidays scheduling', might be nothing, but suspicious

Yes, picked up on that via X earlier, and much speculation abounds as one might expect. Amusingly one wit commented on a thread that they've probably rushed back for, quote.."...maybe it's Drag story hour..." :ROFL:

On a more serious note it is probably more likely to do with the current situation in Ukraine and may be tied to the overnight attacks on Kiev; that's my best guess.

I was thinking, a launch of a Bird Flue scare.

[Phoenix1304]

I could go with the above explanation except for the issue of the ones over military establishments in so many countries all at the same time.

All unknown.

That's what started this flap so to speak.

Could it be that they're unrelated and those over bases belong to the bases, deployed for their own security, and being seen, so they have to make a story about how they're not ours?

I think different militaries all reporting sightings of drones of unknown origin over bases within such a short space of time is highly unlikely to be a test or deployment of new equipment.
They may have then tried to intercept these "boggies" with some of their new drones to muddy the waters as to what was really happening, but I highly doubt they would deploy new security system at so many bases and then deny they are theirs.
A lot of what has been on the net seems like misidentifications of stuff since the initial sightings, adding a further complexity to the what was happening.

Perhaps the increased activity over nuclear facilities (because it’s not the first time) might be something to do with the madness occurring over Putin’s well-justified intervention in Ukraine. It really has upset the applecart for the psychos (exposure of gain of function bio labs, child trafficking et al). All attempts to broker a just peace for the people of the Donbas are scuppered continually because the puppets of Netanayhu in UK and US are trying to assist his insane desire to fulfil Zionist biblical prophecy. i.e. Armageddon.

We know they have disabled nuclear warheads in the past and imho they (meaning the good galactics) are on standby in case the lunatics try it. I don’t think the normies realise how very, very close we have been to a nuclear exchange. But I honestly believe it will not be allowed ever again. So we’re having weather wars instead.

I think Putin has shown extraordinary restraint in the face of the prolonged provocation by the West, he’s probably in contact with galactics as, rumour has it, is Trump. God I hope so.

This is why I’ve said repeatedly that I think there’s several things going on at once with this drone game and we must stay out of fear, I think the US drone swarms are indeed deep state activity but also the galactics want to be seen and this might augur a new dawn for all of us.

[Helvetic]

Source: x.com/JimFergusonUK (http://x.com/JimFergusonUK)

Description:

BREAKING: Dr. Steven Greer: The False Flag Is Coming

"this is a very dangerous situation."

Dr. Steven Greer warns of an impending government false flag operation designed to create chaos and deception. “They’re making it look like a false flag to conceal the truth,” he says.

In the next 30 days, whistleblowers from six black sites will come forward, exposing a secret program dating back to the late 1950s. Greer claims the globalist deep state is scrambling to maintain control, but defectors are blowing the whistle.

“They have electromagnetic pulse weapons and technology capable of shooting down UFOs,” he reveals, warning of a dangerous escalation planned between now and early January.

One marine allegedly encountered a man-made craft operated by humans, used for the transportation of civilians for horrific experimentation.

The stakes are higher than ever. Will the truth finally come out, or are we on the brink of something catastrophic?

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[grapevine]

WE FOUND OUT WHAT THE DRONES ARE!! ft. Dr. Steven Greer | Superfly with Dana Carvey and David Spade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JgoiP4QmQo&t=3s&ab_channel=FlyontheWallwithDanaCarveyandDavidSpade (1:06:48)

If you can get past the Beavis & Butthead element and just listen to Steven Greer, there's a lot of (very worrying) information here and he gives a timeline of between now and January 15th.

Steven Greer start from 5:10

[mountain_jim]

A two-and-a half hour livestream, which ended 6 hours ago. It featured:


Steve Bassett, Founder, Paradigm Research Group, co-Founder, Hollywood Disclosure Alliance
Chris Bledsoe, Experiencer, author, 'UFOs and God'
Georg Boch, ET Studies Course Facilitator, Ubiquity University
Richard Dolan, UFO historian, author, 'UFOs and the National Security State'
Richard Hoffman, Executive Director, Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies
Ron James, Director of Media, Mutual UFO Network (MUFON)
Birdie Jaworski, Remote Viewer, Founder, Albuquerque UFOs Network
Daniel Sheehan, President and General Counsel, New Paradigm Institute
Robert Searing, Director New Jersey MUFON
Kevin Wright, Press Officer, New Paradigm Institute

What’s happening with the “Drones” in our skies?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bun7tSE8n2E

Edit to add:
Just watch the first 3 minutes! :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:~~~

I'm bumping this already. It was superb from beginning to end. The comments are all eulogizing this.


Can we please have more of these intelligent conversations please?
Excellence. I feel SO FORTUNATE to have this on my YOUTUBE FEED. Such thoughtful conversation it feels like I should've paid for it!
Utterly outstanding presentation by intelligent, articulate and informed experts.
Wow wow wow! What a gathering! Dolan, Bassett, Sheehan and Bledsoe…all on the same livestream!!!??? Holy cow, dream come true for those of us closely following.
Absolutely fantastic.
Can't thank you all enough.
What a comprehensive analysis of this situation by such a knowledgeable group of people. Thank you all for taking the time to express your views and share this information with the public.
Wow...what a great group of knowledgeable people.
Richard and Honorable Guests, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. This IS THE BEST PRESENTATION OUT THERE!


I don't find time for most videos - but watched this completely today thanks to your evaluation and really appreciated this panel and the quality of this discussion.

[Abondance]

izEg_Xdr11w

If you only have 3mn to devote to this discussion between Luis Elizondo and Chris Cuomo, listen from 6'30.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

WE FOUND OUT WHAT THE DRONES ARE!! ft. Dr. Steven Greer | Superfly with Dana Carvey and David Spade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JgoiP4QmQo&t=3s&ab_channel=FlyontheWallwithDanaCarveyandDavidSpade (1:06:48)


Dana Carvey? -- wait, am I being mental, or is that Garth from Wayne's World? :wacko:

https://cdn.costumewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/garth-algar.jpg

[seehas]

Fresh Farsight view on the "Drones".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stKk4T6Mrfs&t=3876s

[SilentFeathers]

WE FOUND OUT WHAT THE DRONES ARE!! ft. Dr. Steven Greer | Superfly with Dana Carvey and David Spade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JgoiP4QmQo&t=3s&ab_channel=FlyontheWallwithDanaCarveyandDavidSpade (1:06:48)


Dana Carvey? -- wait, am I being mental, or is that Garth from Wayne's World? :wacko:

https://cdn.costumewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/garth-algar.jpg

It's hard to take this interview seriously with Garth involved! Plus I am no fan of Greer......

[Phoenix1304]

Fresh Farsight view on the "Drones".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stKk4T6Mrfs&t=3876s

This was quite powerful for me, repeatedly validating my own ‘impressions’ and hunches. e.g. I used the expression ‘there’s a new circus in town’ earlier in this thread and talking to a friend about it in recent days said ‘this is not an invasion - that already happened - just look at the state of the planet and you must know it’s been under very bad management for a very long time’…I have a sense of anticipation and excitement, no fear whatsoever and almost amusement at the absurd lies that are being woven around the whole thing. (Like the 9/11 official narrative) I keep wanting to burst out laughing at most of it.

I hoped this was the start of a rescue mission but didn’t want to say it. I feel like I’ve been waiting for this my whole life and ‘they have been waiting for a very long time’ for humanity to break out of the mind prison en masse. Maybe I’m having telepathic communication without realising it. I haven’t paid much attention to Farsight in the past, but I will be checking in on the monthly board meetings now, particularly if the next wave in the coming days and weeks is bigger ships! Thanks for posting.

[Kryztian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stKk4T6Mrfs&t=3876s

I got about 18 minutes into this before I started to asphyxiate from the over whelming smell of snake oil. In a nutshell:


The drones and everything else you are seeing around the world are mostly from beneficent E.T.s.


Last month they gave the Farsight Institute a head's up that they soon would be showing themselves.


The E.T.s hope you will not be frightened and they want you to understand what is going on so ....


They have designated the Farsight Institute as their official news outlet.


At that point, the web address for the Farsight Institute flashes. Have your credit cards ready folks!!! :facepalm:

BTW, if you want to know what a serious remote viewer has to say about the drone situation, I would recommend listening to Birdie Jaworski in this video posted above.

Bun7tSE8n2E

[Moemers]

ooooooof. to see Farsight hard on the grift like that is painful.

anything saying a conclusive answer to this and it's definitely benevolent aliens should probably be added to the compost pile

[4got2call]

I think this may be more about a massive mil-intelligence theater operation in progress now for years and entering a much more public phase. I think one of its multiple aims is to to wake a numbed population to the control structure on Earth & what was planned (7.5B killed) without enraging, frightening or despairing them. It can't go too fast or chaos ensues. Hence, you have these "drip-drip" disclosures of the UAP presence as you do the same with the Sean Combs arrest with the slowly increasing depravity in those reports on national news. If you recall when he was first "arrested", it was women abused, then a few days later men, then a 16 y/o, then a 14 y/o, all across a 10 day period. Finally it was revealed that a 9 y/o child was abused and that is the way that military intelligence (MI) is rolling this out to both inform AND calm the public. It's a staggeringly brilliant plan and it involves some several 100,000 participants under I believe the direction of these spectacularly skilled specialists:
https://www.soc.mil/4thPOG/4thPOGhome.html
And these guys got game. Ask if anyone has questions, but I would also start studying "cognitive dissonance" and "ontological shock" if you wanna help your family through what's likely close now. I'd do it fast too, so you can process your own first.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

I've NOT watched this yet, but I most certainly will: a two-and-a half hour livestream, which ended 6 hours ago. It featured:


Steve Bassett, Founder, Paradigm Research Group, co-Founder, Hollywood Disclosure Alliance
Chris Bledsoe, Experiencer, author, 'UFOs and God'
Georg Boch, ET Studies Course Facilitator, Ubiquity University
Richard Dolan, UFO historian, author, 'UFOs and the National Security State'
Richard Hoffman, Executive Director, Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies
Ron James, Director of Media, Mutual UFO Network (MUFON)
Birdie Jaworski, Remote Viewer, Founder, Albuquerque UFOs Network
Daniel Sheehan, President and General Counsel, New Paradigm Institute
Robert Searing, Director New Jersey MUFON
Kevin Wright, Press Officer, New Paradigm Institute



What’s happening with the “Drones” in our skies?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bun7tSE8n2E

Edit to add:
Just watch the first 3 minutes! :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

The best vid ive seen for yonks, lots of different opinions and aspects of the current and past UFO/UAP encounters.......................................R:alien:RR

[4got2call]

Not to be inflammatory but people in this community must know someone harmed by the CovVax shots. Maybe even - although I really hope not - lost someone to them. As such, it is a good reminder to point out that this Cuomo, much like his brother the other Cuomo is directly culpable for some of those harmed or dead people by knowingly making $$ in his former profession of delivering the now-well-known lies leading to 5.7 billion people on Earth tripping over each other to be poisoned - many multiple times.
I hope it is not disrespectful to point out that his "disclosure" present in anything he is doing now could be just as false, manipulative, coercive of fear and generally malevolent in the extreme as was his information during Covid.
Just a warning to use 10x discernment with anything a complicity-to-criminal-activity spokesman might be telling you to use to inform or protect your family. You'd be better off pulling a just dropped turd in a public toilet out and reading it for the truth.

[4got2call]

DPIA - Disclosure Project Intelligence Archive. 115 publicly named witnesses; testimony of 645 confidential witnesses; 136 crash retrieval cases; 151 secret facilities named; 747 documents and more:
https://x.com/DrStevenGreer/status/1797780691674906923

[Helvetic]

Source: Concerned Citizen on X (https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho)

🚨🇺🇸 New Jersey UAPS are now firing off powerful Lasers into Space


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Yes you read that correctly - watch.

🚨🇺🇸 St. Petersburg, FL, US

“WTF is this **** bro WTF is it? The cops are here telling us to go inside - y’all better get straight with God Bro”

Just in from Florida as the clips continue to get stranger stranger.


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[Bill Ryan]

Not to be inflammatory but people in this community must know someone harmed by the CovVax shots. Maybe even - although I really hope not - lost someone to them. Off-topic here, but yes, this has been frequently reported by members, and some very tragic stories have been shared. I don't have quite enough time right now to find the threads and link them (maybe others can?) but yes, this was a much-discussed topic a short while ago.

:flower::focus:

[Did You See Them]

Not sure how to embed this - but this looks like possibly the real deal.

Worth scrolling down to the pic and movie links.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ufo/comments/1hits74/photographer_captures_drone_orbs_with_highquality (https://www.reddit.com/r/ufo/comments/1hits74/photographer_captures_drone_orbs_with_highquality/)

https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/photographer-captures-drone-orbs-with-high-quality-v0-laen916fj28e1.jpg

[Kryztian]

Not to be inflammatory but people in this community must know someone harmed by the CovVax shots. Maybe even - although I really hope not - lost someone to them. Off-topic here, but yes, this has been frequently reported by members, and some very tragic stories have been shared. I don't have quite enough time right now to find the threads and link them (maybe others can?) but yes, this was a much-discussed topic a short while ago.

:flower:

Vaccination Injuries On Record for Covid19
(https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113668-Vaccination-Injuries-On-Record-for-Covid19)

This thread now has over 3000 posts.


:focus:

[silver birch]

Interesting view from former FBI agent John DeSouza on Redacted.
A little scary with his statement that the threat is real and to please avoid the inauguration ...

FE1iqDC6RN8

[s7e6e]

John DeSouza and Luis Elizondo are low IQ government actors. I wouldn't listen to these morons, even if they're right in their predictions.

[Phoenix1304]

1870445626997284884

Hmmm. Just like Farsight said they would. Bigger craft, the next wave in the ‘campaign’.

Note to Kryztian and others who trashed Farsight, I guess you have your reasons. I’d like to know what they are.

I’ve seen several members, including Bill, recommending the vid you posted in your response and gave it well over half an hour, a bit longer than you gave Farsight’s, and while there was no overwhelming stench, it was more zzzzzzzz for me, after Richard Dolan’s 15 mins of saying absolutely nothing new, I couldn’t face another other two hours of it. I might get round to it sometime, but I’m tired of hearing endless opinion and analysis, (albeit from well-informed stars of the UFO community) - that in the end amounts to ‘we haven’t got a clue what’s going on’. Please enlighten me if I’m missing something important, time stamps on two and half hour videos would be really helpful, like the ‘real’ remote viewer for example. Interested as I am, I simply don’t have the time or patience to listen to every lengthy video posted on this thread.

Also, I noted the numerous logos and brands at the top of the video and that these ‘professional’ UFO investigators make nice careers out of covering the subject, sell books and monetise all day long, so why this hard attitude to Farsight for flashing up their website? I wasn’t bludgeoned into getting out my credit card in the slightest. Though I grant you, I balked a bit at ‘we’re the only official outlet for what comes next’ smacks of self aggrandisement, but what if they actually are atm? It was the content itself that grabbed me and I have yet to write them off as purveyors of snake oil.

[SilentFeathers]

Interesting view from former FBI agent John DeSouza on Redacted.
A little scary with his statement that the threat is real and to please avoid the inauguration ...

FE1iqDC6RN8

I think this is one of the most important video's in this thread.

I don't agree with everything DeSouza says or claims but I absolutely sense, feel and just "know" he is spot on with many things he says and claims.

He makes a lot of sense and a lot of what he says and claims is extremely difficult to disagree with him in my opinion. I'm in agreement with DeSouza on many things he is saying in this video.

As I said in many posts over the last few months, we are in for a storm and a it won't be pretty, get prepared!

Time is short, if there's going to be a huge event and or false flag type of disaster, I'm absolutely convinced its most likely to happen any day now thru January 20th.

It likely just won't be one event in my opinion, but a series of events....it'll start out with a biggen though, to knock everyone into confusion, panic, and absolute fear and uncertainty.

I believe DeSouza is a part of the conditioning.....

[SilentFeathers]

Just to add, the word "Mothership" has already been mentioned a few times, but, it won't be an Iranian ship out in the Atlantic. (preconditioning the masses)

They are likely soon to produce one up in the sky soon somewhere. Mass deception at its finest!!!!!!

[Moemers]

https://x.com/maniaufo/status/1870514497083134019

happy solstice...

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[s7e6e]

I've gone through the "What's happening with the drones in our skies" and the "Farsight ET Board Meeting" videos and they are both a complete waste of time. First one is a rehash of the same old and brings absolutely nothing new to the table, while the Farsight is a straight asylum.

They do however, tell an interesting story about those endorsing it. :gossip:

[Delight]

"Larger 'Drones' The Next Month Will Prove ET Contact!"-Courtney Brown
12/21/2024

Dr. Courtney Brown, a university professor and creator of Farsight.org, boldly predicts that larger UAPs will show up over the next month in increasing waves. This will prove we are not alone in the universe and force disclosure. He details how the ETs he has been working with for years say this is "the time" when we are all unified through the internet, but it hasn't been locked down through unbreakable censorship. This is the first significant podcast to take him seriously. If he's wrong, it will be a blemish on my credibility, but this is more than worth the risk because if he is correct, we are on the cusp of the most historic events in human history. One way or another, we will know in the coming months!

i-_PvCDIRDk

[Moemers]

thanks for always editing my posts Bill lol I have no idea how to embed this stuff

[SilentFeathers]

It's rather suspicious that most of these drone/UFO sightings are clustered over the US and the UK....coincidence????????????

https://x.com/TNTJohn1717/status/1870389291848724526

[seehas]

I've gone through the "What's happening with the drones in our skies" and the "Farsight ET Board Meeting" videos and they are both a complete waste of time. First one is a rehash of the same old and brings absolutely nothing new to the table, while the Farsight is a straight asylum.

They do however, tell an interesting story about those endorsing it. :gossip:

Since Farsight announced the actual sightings it's worth to mention their update, I actually do not care if that tells anything about me not sure how ego suddenly got injected into a thread where we all collect Information about the topic.

[4got2call]

See this one going forward:
See him daily for military-authorized public info:
https://rumble.com/user/MartinBrodel
And see the first portions of today's update on specifically why the drones are there. It should help you prepare to inform, reassure and calm those around you as it unfolds:
https://rumble.com/v61kn05-122124-john-maddox-gives-updates-on-election-fraud-vaccines-q-posts.html
Ask if anyone wants more complete details about what this all is being done for as part of a much larger process involving all global governments, media and corporations. You should study cognitive dissonance and ontological shock first if you wish to avoid some discomfort as you learn of what you will learn from Martin's channel:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/7HDGVmj
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[s7e6e]

It's rather suspicious that most of these drone/UFO sightings are clustered over the US and the UK....coincidence????????????

Apparently, the rest of the world didn't get the fear porn memo.

[thepainterdoug]

One thing for sure is this entire thing has created so many new skywatchers. Video and pics are coming in from all over the place. There is a mix of what I believe to be drones along with mis identified air craft, fakes, cgi, and then the truly perplexing and unexplainable. its like a fishing troller pulling in a net of all sorts of sea life, with the occasional unexpected life form.
Where its all going is perplexing, but it has something to do with Trump and the inauguration in my opinion.

[Moemers]

KrTNrGFFXvw

im kind of struck at how the launches in the video look pretty similar to the "UFO attack" video i shared on the last page...


also im here for some hot saturday night speculation - air space shut down around Wright Patterson and now this crazy looking quasi shoot-out above (more like outside...) Vegas. Which as we all know is 83 miles from...

[4got2call]

I don't know if the host of this show is even aware of the larger military intelligence operation running and they are cooperating with the script or they are actively trying to create fear in the public, but I I think this could help greatly with the sense of confusion and uncertainty about all of this. See this one daily for military-authorized public info:
https://rumble.com/user/MartinBrodel
And see the first portions of today's update on specifically why the drones are there. It should help you prepare to inform, reassure and calm those around you as it unfolds:
https://rumble.com/v61kn05-122124-john-maddox-gives-updates-on-election-fraud-vaccines-q-posts.html?e9s=src_v1_upp
Ask if anyone wants more complete details about what this all is being done for as part of a much larger process involving all global governments, media and corporations. You should study cognitive dissonance and ontological shock first if you wish to avoid some discomfort as you learn of what you will learn from Martin's channel:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/7HDGVmj

[SilentFeathers]

One thing for sure is this entire thing has created so many new skywatchers. Video and pics are coming in from all over the place. There is a mix of what I believe to be drones along with mis identified air craft, fakes, cgi, and then the truly perplexing and unexplainable. its like a fishing troller pulling in a net of all sorts of sea life, with the occasional unexpected life form.
Where its all going is perplexing, but it has something to do with Trump and the inauguration in my opinion.

When "ET" nukes DC on January 20th, the first thing out of the Democrats mouth will be, "Well darn it!, we wanted a peaceful transfer of power". I'm pretty certain they are going to pull something to prevent Trump from entering office or cause so much chaos it'll severely kneecap him so much he won't be able to govern. I'm leaning more towards preventing him from taking office though.

They are doing this operation mostly under the cover of darkness, there must be an important reason for this. I'm not so convinced they are "sniffing" for something. If it was that serious they would be sniffing 24/7. I'm starting to wonder if they are spraying something under the cover of darkness. This is really so weird it just completely boggles the mind! Regardless of what they are doing it surely appears like a preparation for some type of an attack, I do believe these drones are weaponized somehow and absolutely not a bunch of ET's spying on humans under the cover of darkness. Whatever it is the deep state is allowing it to proceed.

Always in the back of my mind for more than two years now is the question, "Where did the 1 or 2 million fighting age male illegal invaders disappear to?" They've had plenty of time to be armed and well briefed for coordinated missions by now.

When it comes to all the new sky watchers, at least they are not glued to their phones so much now!

[Mike]

Like many others I thought the "drones" had arrived as a deep state op to prevent transfer of power to Trump. That was my first thought. Well, turns out the "drones" made an appearance last December too, putting some major holes in that theory.

This is what Google tells us:
Last December the drones flew over Langley Air Force Base for 17 days. The drones flew in a consistent pattern, arriving from the north around 6 PM, crossing the base, and heading south over Chesapeake Bay. They were estimated to be around 20 feet long, moving at over 100 miles per hour, and at altitudes of 3,000-4,000 feet.

Sound familiar?

Not only that, if this was a BlueBeam thing, why aren't they attacking? A fake alien invasion would hardly require weeks of silly foreplay; they'd simply attack. So I'm doubting that as well.

re the sniffing drone theory: I've nearly crossed this off my list as well, mainly for the reasons Silent Feathers articulated above. There's no "cover of darkness" if they're lit up like a Christmas tree at night.

I watched this 11 minute video of former CIA spy Andrew Bustamante, and learned a couple things about drones. Whatever you think about Bustamante or "ex" CIA spies in general (and it's likely justified), he does offer some intriguing info about "Reaper" drones, namely that they can travel at 300 mph and loiter in the sky indefinitely by charging themselves with sunlight. They operate by communicating with satellites.

Anyway, this 11 minute video is worth watching imo. I'm not in agreement with everything the man says necessarily, but you might learn a thing or two, as I did:
WhKn7-aFfcg

[4got2call]

I hope this might offer some reassurance on these mutts: AFAIK, military intelligence has legally seized control of ALL media on Earth under EO 13818 & 13848 - to include social media IIRC. As part of a larger 5th-generation warfare special op running for years, they monitor tightly the content as well as deploy some of the platforms as active elements in that operation. I think that those who intentionally gaslight or foment certain levels of fear-porn not founded in actual evidence should be held accountable later by military JAG under the U.C.M.J. and U.S.C. citations applicable. I think the specific channels engaging in those activities - especially those earning income based on the fear being fomented - could be pursued if it can be shown that they significantly cause or add to panic in the public. The information about what the military is actually doing - given to the public as part of that operation can be seen on multiple channels, but I only know of this one where the provider has been vetted by the military:
https://rumble.com/user/MartinBrodel
I believe that the intent of the operation is to alert a propagandized & numbed population to a control structure on Earth & what was planned without enraging, frightening or despairing them. As part of that operation, I think they will create a scripted event designed to "shake" people up without panicking them. I think it's an extremely delicate balance - made that way by a currently divided free nation that is armed - being carefully monitored by the specialists involved - JAG, military intelligence and the Fourth Army Psychological Group (4POG):
https://www.soc.mil/4thPOG/4thPOGhome.html
It can't go too fast or chaos can result, so I'm pretty sure that those who deliberately cause unrest or fear in the population in order to draw income by an audience will be held to a higher criteria during a wartime operation.
I think the best thing you can do for your circle of people is to closely follow the Brodel channel and follow their counsel, along with whatever other trusted channels you follow and develop your own discernment. It would also help greatly to study fully these psychological effects if you wish to avoid some discomfort as you learn of what you will learn from Martin's channel:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/7HDGVmj
The more you process the effects that you encounter, the better and sooner you will be prepared to shepherd people through the coming events with a minimum of fear, anger or other negative effects. It takes time to process them, so sooner is better.
I hope that all helps...

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Drones attacking buildings


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LC0wRLHHo

[Blastolabs]

It's rather suspicious that most of these drone/UFO sightings are clustered over the US and the UK....coincidence????????????

Apparently, the rest of the world didn't get the fear porn memo.

Your attitude tells me all I need to know.
Farsight Predicted this current situation, YEARS AGO. If their videos are too much for you to handle, don't watch them, they are not for you.
Enough said

The fact that both Clif and Farsight predicted these events months ago, and the fact that they both are essentially saying the same thing leads me to believe that is most likely true. The drones are being flown as a distraction from the real UFO who have made a decision to show themselves at this moment for some reason.
Seems worth pointing out that the drones may very well be man made advanced craft that are simply mimicking the look of those large drones, as they do seem to have a few anomalous characteristics such as no sound, extremely long flight times.

(Farsight predicted this increase in UFO activity around this time years ago, with the guy who runs Farsight claiming that he and his son made plans plans to incarnate on earth right now for this very situation before they were born.)

Also how many active disinfo agents are currently on avalon and should we call them out to their faces?

[s7e6e]

The drones are being flown as a distraction from the real UFO who have made a decision to show themselves at this moment for some reason.
Also how many active disinfo agents are currently on avalon and should we call them out to their faces?

I'm with you 100%. Maybe I need to take my sarcasm down a notch.

[Rizotto]

Thanks everybody for the information and videos. But for most of us it will be too time consuming to watch all this.

Could someone kindly post a brief summary or synthesis of the various claims. In point form.

Some of those videos with commentators that talk about "they" or "those that are doing this" kind of lost me at the start because I don't know who or what they're talking about. So, it would help to name the protagonists. For example, is it the 'deep state', the Biden administration, ETs, the US military, etc.

Just a short paragraph should do it. Thanks in advance.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Oooops sorry folks just noticed this was posted further up the thread…fast moving thread!


More from Farsight not sure if posted.

Well he’s got until next month.. 🤷‍♂️

Dr. Courtney Brown, a university professor and creator of Farsight.org, boldly predicts that larger UAPs will show up over the next month in increasing waves. This will prove we are not alone in the universe and force disclosure. He details how the ETs he has been working with for years say this is "the time" when we are all unified through the internet, but it hasn't been locked down through unbreakable censorship. This is the first significant podcast to take him seriously. If he's wrong, it will be a blemish on my credibility, but this is more than worth the risk because if he is correct, we are on the cusp of the most historic events in human history. One way or another, we will know in the coming months!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-_PvCDIRDk?si=mc0Noy5FmxrWDoK-

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

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I thought, just a reflection. Sure enough, reader note says:
This is not video of any UAP/UFO etc. This is a reflection/glare of the cars headlights that are passing by this stationary vehicle. This shows an illusion of entities in the sky.

And this one from a few pages back:

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Recognised this at once. This is a Cylon Raider from Battlestar Galactica.

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Lots of variety in these drone clips, some very compelling and interesting, but there are, unfortunately, hoaxes mixed among them, so be warned. :highfive:

[Vicus]

It's rather suspicious that most of these drone/UFO sightings are clustered over the US and the UK....coincidence????????????

https://x.com/TNTJohn1717/status/1870389291848724526

Well, where are the most condensate sightings ?

Over the top warmonger on the planet! USA and Britain first, second where USA got his military basis in Hawai and in the Pacific Ocean...,Germany...Japan...

what tell us that? prevention ?

Why not over Russia,China,Iran, India,Pakistan,France ,Israhell (the other NUCLEAR POWERS) ?

Food for think... :hmm:

correction: Israhell is full too! (so little that piece...and full of it) the third warmonger...

[SilentFeathers]

Like many others I thought the "drones" had arrived as a deep state op to prevent transfer of power to Trump. That was my first thought. Well, turns out the "drones" made an appearance last December too, putting some major holes in that theory.

This is what Google tells us:
Last December the drones flew over Langley Air Force Base for 17 days. The drones flew in a consistent pattern, arriving from the north around 6 PM, crossing the base, and heading south over Chesapeake Bay. They were estimated to be around 20 feet long, moving at over 100 miles per hour, and at altitudes of 3,000-4,000 feet.

Sound familiar?

Not only that, if this was a BlueBeam thing, why aren't they attacking? A fake alien invasion would hardly require weeks of silly foreplay; they'd simply attack. So I'm doubting that as well.

re the sniffing drone theory: I've nearly crossed this off my list as well, mainly for the reasons Silent Feathers articulated above. There's no "cover of darkness" if they're lit up like a Christmas tree at night.

I watched this 11 minute video of former CIA spy Andrew Bustamante, and learned a couple things about drones. Whatever you think about Bustamante or "ex" CIA spies in general (and it's likely justified), he does offer some intriguing info about "Reaper" drones, namely that they can travel at 300 mph and loiter in the sky indefinitely by charging themselves with sunlight. They operate by communicating with satellites.

Anyway, this 11 minute video is worth watching imo. I'm not in agreement with everything the man says necessarily, but you might learn a thing or two, as I did:
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I've always wondered why the CIA etc., allows these ex or retired operators to go on the MSM or all these podcasts and speak like they do about so many things. It's almost if they've been given permission to be somewhat controlled "soft whistleblowers".

This video is quite interesting, Bustamante is quite the character but I do believe most of what he says as quite accurate, although limited and or controlled to a large degree.

Personally I think preventing Trump from taking office is being bundled into the already long planned operation that we are seeing happening now. They are probably steam rolling this operation out now, before Trump takes office, because they know once he's in there they might not be able to do it so easily. Doing it now also allows them more of a success rate of preventing him from taking office all together. I truly believe this is more about the destruction of the USA and the western nations more so than the take down of Trump, but since he did win the election he is totally part of the takedown plan now.

(I'm just rambling thoughts).

These craft have been around for a while, but the amount we are hearing about now is something new. Something has changed and a whole new operation has started so to speak. The thing I seen about 15 years appears to be exactly like what many are claiming to see today, a bright plasma like ball of light object or craft. These light balls seem to be mixed in with obvious drones with lights regulated by the FAA. The one I seen though was solid bright white and had no other colors what so ever. I seen it in the daylight though.

The name Elon Musk keeps popping in to my mind. With all his connections and involvement in the high tech global community, he must know or have a good idea of what's going on. We've hardly heard a peep out of him or Trump about any of this. If they are serious about saving this country I hope they figure out way to prevent it's destruction.

[Phoenix1304]

Thanks everybody for the information and videos. But for most of us it will be too time consuming to watch all this.

Could someone kindly post a brief summary or synthesis of the various claims. In point form.

Some of those videos with commentators that talk about "they" or "those that are doing this" kind of lost me at the start because I don't know who or what they're talking about. So, it would help to name the protagonists. For example, is it the 'deep state', the Biden administration, ETs, the US military, etc.

Just a short paragraph should do it. Thanks in advance.

Hello Riz

I hear ya! Overwhelming amount of argy bargy going on, exhausting, especially if you have a busy life outside the computer screen…

My approach is to let my intuition draw me to certain things and repel me from others so my energy does not get sucked dry by pontificating left-brainers. Not that there’s anything wrong with left brainers, they have given us so much, but these times call for a blend of both and I’m more drawn to the right brained spiritual, creative, out of the box types. So bear this in mind when I give you my summary.

The uptick in aerial phenomena right now is a mix of deep state/elements of government sponsored drones and actual ET activity. The deep state, driven by dark entities that have ruled the planet for eons are under pressure as a global awakening occurs. Their power structures are crumbling as the people of earth wake up and look up. They had a ‘Trump’ card up their sleeves if all attempts to control the entire world population failed, the ‘fake alien invasion’. This is now in play.

There is very likely a ‘space’ war between the Draconian colonisers and a galactic federation of advanced ET races that responded to the requests from thousands of earthlings in a mass effort years ago, ‘yes please we do want you to show up’. This resulted (imo) in Clif High’s webot software accurately predicting this conflict 39 days after Joe Rogan’s interview with President Trump - 4th December 2024 would be the trigger. A prediction made in 2009 based on computer algorithms collating internet chatter.

Others have also predicted the appearance of orbs and galactic craft at this time, psychics, experiencers and remote viewers. The most recent being the Farsight group of telepaths who say they have long been in contact with ‘good’ ETs and will give us monthly updates as to what comes next.

Other claims that include government drones hunting for dirty bombs and covertly trying to engage a hostile ET threat don’t hold much water with me and smack of the fake narrative to promote maximum fear and control. Although it would appear that Orbs and ET ships are active around nuclear sites more than usual at this time as the geopolitical landscape sees the world on the brink of nuclear conflict.

Being a right-brained type myself, this was never going to be a neat bulleted list of the various claims, but more a synthesis of my own picks! Try a leisurely trawl of the thread yourself, stopping only when you feel ‘drawn’.

It is a wonderful time to be alive. All the season’s greetings,

Helen

[Phoenix1304]

Lots more activity today, there was one of these triangular craft over Norway. I had to laugh at the poster’s comment. Really, this is the biggest thing happening on earth right now, monumental, historic and we’re here for it, this extraordinary moment in humanity’s history and meh, everyone’s just a bit bored with it now because there’s no definitive explanation. Lol.

:lalala:

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I do think Clif was right and a battle rages unbeknown to most of us..

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It seems to me that to explain the Nevada one, already posted, as the reflection of car lights is a bit of a stretch. We don’t need to comfort ourselves with prosaic explanations, just watch and wonder..

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
"Multiple drones" affect aircraft takeoffs and landings at Iwakuni Kintaikyo Airport in Yamaguchi
December 23, 2024 1:02 AM Aviation

On the night of the 22nd, the Iwakuni Kintaikyo Airport, which is used by both the US military and civilians in Iwakuni, Yamaguchi Prefecture, received a report that "several drones had entered," temporarily blocking the runway. This resulted in the delay of an All Nippon Airways flight bound for the airport by about three hours.According to All Nippon Airways and other sources, at around 7pm on the 22nd, ANA received a call from the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism office informing them that "multiple drones had entered" Iwakuni Kintaikyo Airport, which is jointly used by the US military and civilians in Iwakuni City, and the runway was temporarily unavailable.

As a result, an All Nippon Airways flight heading to the airport from Haneda Airport was unable to land, and after waiting in the air, it changed its destination to refuel and landed at Hiroshima Airport.

from: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20241223/k10014675721000.html

https://x.com/RalphSpeedy/status/1870941041492390078

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https://x.com/MichaelSalla/status/1871003645250064465

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[NewEarthResearchInstitute]

Let us agree that the official statements from the pentagon and all the governement mignions all across the internet (the ex-CIA, ex-FBI, ex-Area51 low IQ assh*les) are full of sh*t? Whatever they say is 100% uncorrect. I think it is time to really call BS on anybody who speaks in the name of these corrupt institutions. They truly have no credibility.

It is very unlikely that the alien presence on earth that has been lurking in the backgrtound for hundreds or thousands of years ARE interested in disclosure: the whole game of control is about secrecy: hiding tech, the manufacturing of artificial scarcity, hybrid elites, human trafficking, corruption of history, information control, wars, lush trade and farming ... and so on.

Since 2020, the usual suspects (some random Israeli ex-official and a bunch of ex-US military/gov minions) started popping up and giving "vague credibility" to the UFO question. It seems that since 2020: the strategy has changed - now it is not about "uncondiitonal secrecy" anymore but more about "controlling the narrative". These past few months, the number of official hearings have been increasing talking about "retrieval of alien crafts" and "reverse engineering them".

For the moment we are dealing with a few competing narratives:
1- This is all part of a deep state operation and building up to the long awaited fake alien invasion ("fake" because we have been invaded by an alien invader for a long time already). Aka: rolling the new world order, yada, yada yada ... but still maintaining full control of the "truth" while drip feeding society some cool tech via the new management (Elon and Trump)
2- There is a new kid in town that bothers the powers that be: aka: the old alien invaders and their human power elite. There is a new actor that is attempting to make a coming out. We may witness a war in the skies of earth between these two factions: the winning side will be able to control the narrative around disclosure.

The Steven Greer propganda vs the Courtney Brown propaganda.

In the middle we have got Clif High and his timewave zero predictions, and to a lesser extent the Allgire/Daz Smith crew: both do not provide any concise narrative - they don't know **** themselves a part from outlandish theories and scribbles mascaraded as remote viewing that are subjected to retrospective confirmation bias.

Credit to Clif High nonetheless for his prediction.

Just my uncensored opinion on the current issue: we are flirting with some sort of open contact (insane time to be alive) and the US Gov is full of s*it, it is clear now more than ever.

[Dick]

This one is also interesting: drone without propellers
https://x.com/brianroemmele/status/1870583682169454929?s=61
Don’t know how to embed the video directly…..

http://https://x.com/brianroemmele/status/1870583682169454929?s=61




mod note: link: https://x.com/brianroemmele/status/1870583682169454929?s=61
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[Helvetic]

Source: https://x.com/RedPandaKoala

Description:

BREAKING: New Jersey Mayor leaks FBI's game plan🚨

Facebook thread by New Jersey Mayor Ryan Herd,

Herd had a plan to undertake an assessment of the drone situation. Including support from a private firm, free of charge. NJ governor seemingly cleared it, only for it to be blocked at federal level.

His position is that the feds are not interested in identifying the cause and are trying to cover it up,

They don't know who the drones belong to.

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[Helvetic]

The Corbett Report | How To Fake An Alien Invasion (2015)

Source: corbettreport.com (https://corbettreport.com/alieninvasion)

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FROM 2015: We all know about the crude pie-plate-on-string UFO hoaxes that have been perpetrated in the past. But what if I were to tell you the greatest UFO hoax of all time is being prepared right now, and it has Rockefeller backing and UN/Vatican/presidential support? Join us this week as we peek under the bluebeam curtain at the great alien invasion false flag.

TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: https://corbettreport.com/alieninvasion

[aoibhghaire]

Managed psychological operations of the ‘drones’

The current psychological groundwork appears to support many operations which I previously posted a few days ago, showing a sophisticated management system that has been in place for some time. There is no accident to the feedback from official messaging that process leads to some bigger event. It is expected that a pivotal moment in time is being prepared and it is at that culmination point of these unfolding psychological operations of the ‘drones’ that everybody should have a critical awareness.

There is every indication from different categories, the Congressional hearings, interviews with intelligence personal, e.g. Elizondo, Mellon and many others that there is a sophisticated unfoldment to leading to the threat scenario. This scenario in the operations of the ridicule process often precedes revelation by distracting people from the real goal, making people feel foolish whom should be watching the real threat scenario closely.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

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I thought, just a reflection. Sure enough, reader note says:
This is not video of any UAP/UFO etc. This is a reflection/glare of the cars headlights that are passing by this stationary vehicle. This shows an illusion of entities in the sky.

And this one from a few pages back:

54184


Recognised this at once. This is a Cylon Raider from Battlestar Galactica.

54185


Lots of variety in these drone clips, some very compelling and interesting, but there are, unfortunately, hoaxes mixed among them, so be warned. :highfive:

Im not convinced that the glare reflection of car lights explains that first one at all, having said that i think its atleast a couple of yrs old as im sure ive seen it before............RRR

[SilentFeathers]

1870514497083134019

I thought, just a reflection. Sure enough, reader note says:
This is not video of any UAP/UFO etc. This is a reflection/glare of the cars headlights that are passing by this stationary vehicle. This shows an illusion of entities in the sky.

And this one from a few pages back:

54184


Recognised this at once. This is a Cylon Raider from Battlestar Galactica.

54185


Lots of variety in these drone clips, some very compelling and interesting, but there are, unfortunately, hoaxes mixed among them, so be warned. :highfive:

I'm not convinced that the glare reflection of car lights explains that first one at all, having said that i think its at least a couple of yrs old as I'm sure I've seen it before............RRR

I've seen several clips on X etc that I know are old clips of UFO's and other weird sightings, the exaggerations and fakeries are getting a bit ridiculous.

Yes, many strange things are going on right now with drones and things, but, a lot of stuff on line right now is just plain fake and BS.

[thepainterdoug]

Regarding the drone vid by Krystian above. And not directed to you my friend. But again as long as I have been saying, I am so turned off and sick of the music, sounds , effects , booms , swishes ,theatrics and sensationalism connected to this info. Thank God I don't have to hear some english accent Kings english drawl narration , always associated with a respectable legitimate report. B S.
This material and info if truthful and credible needs no accessorizing.
Hey video people, you dont need to entertain!

[RatRodRob...RRR]

1870514497083134019

I thought, just a reflection. Sure enough, reader note says:
This is not video of any UAP/UFO etc. This is a reflection/glare of the cars headlights that are passing by this stationary vehicle. This shows an illusion of entities in the sky.

And this one from a few pages back:

54184


Recognised this at once. This is a Cylon Raider from Battlestar Galactica.

54185


Lots of variety in these drone clips, some very compelling and interesting, but there are, unfortunately, hoaxes mixed among them, so be warned. :highfive:

I'm not convinced that the glare reflection of car lights explains that first one at all, having said that i think its at least a couple of yrs old as I'm sure I've seen it before............RRR

I've seen several clips on X etc that I know are old clips of UFO's and other weird sightings, the exaggerations and fakeries are getting a bit ridiculous.

Yes, many strange things are going on right now with drones and things, but, a lot of stuff on line right now is just plain fake and BS.

Yeah lotta BS thats for sure, but i havnt felt this much anticipation and hope for yrs, ive never seen sooo much chatter about UAPs ever, whether it be from our governments, armed forces, UFO investigators, public, whistle blowers, police and others, thigs are heating up and i want answers damn it, been waiting for ova 50yrs for absolute proof of UFOs and there occupants and orbs, but we gotta get through 3 time dates that often see/reveal sightings of UAPs.
1.....Xmas day
2......New years day
3......Jan 20th
If we get passed those 3 events without any action/Major true sightings and reports, ill be pissed...lol...RRR

[Kryztian]

Regarding the drone vid by Krystian above. And not directed to you my friend. But again as long as I have been saying, I am so turned off and sick of the music, sounds , effects , booms , swishes ,theatrics and sensationalism connected to this info. Thank God I don't have to hear some english accent Kings english drawl narration , always associated with a respectable legitimate report. B S.
This material and info if truthful and credible needs no accessorizing.
Hey video people, you dont need to entertain!

Hi Doug,

I also find added sound effects truly annoying on UFO and other videos. But I don't think that I posted anything with such effects. Can you let me know where this is so I can manage this?

One time recently I did enjoy hearing some added music with drone videos: there was a documentary and the first 3 minutes they played "The Blue Danube" - it was perfect - the same music Kubrick used in his "2001: A Space Odyssey" movie, as if to say, we have entered the space age.

[thepainterdoug]

I know this is preference, but anytime i hear dramatic music, effectual's etc along with ufo or serious questioning regarding important info, it so moves it into the "entertainment" category and just another thing to eat your popcorn with .
I say let the info , its truth and content substantiate itself. This is not entertainment in my view. I best like ufo footage without music at all, just the facts.

Sure, harmless drone videos flying over landscape can be enhanced with music, but thats different context all together.You are correct regarding Kubrik, but that was a movie and exactly my point. we end up seeing vital documented info in a entertainment context.
why not have the world trade centers fall to King Kongs music? lol

[Helvetic]

Source: https://x.com/ShadowofEzra

Description:

UFO researcher Dr. Steven Greer has issued a chilling warning, claiming a major government false flag operation is imminent, designed to sow chaos and conceal the truth.

He describes the situation as "very dangerous" and alleges that efforts are being made to stage events to distract from reality.

Greer predicts that within the next 30 days, whistleblowers from six secretive black sites will come forward, unveiling a covert program dating back to the late 1950s.

According to him, the globalist deep state is scrambling to maintain its grip on power as insiders expose their secrets.

He also claims the government possesses advanced electromagnetic pulse weapons and technology capable of downing UFOs, cautioning that a dangerous escalation is planned between now and early January—just before Trump could take office.

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[edina]

Evidently, we got droned during the night.
I didn't hear it, I slept through it, but my husband did.
He said it circled our house two times, he could hear where it was in the direction of two different neighbors, each who are 1/4 to 1/2 mile away from us, in opposite directions.
When it left from circling our house, it went back east over the ridge of our canyon.

He said it didn't sound like normal drones. He makes the sound to me, which I'll describe as a steady deep-toned humming. He said it took about a minute to go around our house two times.

Last winter, we had a series of nights spread over a month or so's time where we had light here in the back canyon, between us and one of our neighbors. I was up a during a couple of those times. I had the window blinds in house down, and it looked like someone was flashing a light toward our house. I didn't hear anything just saw the light. We live in an isolated area, I would have heard any vehicle approaching our place. There was no sound.

I call it the mystery of the lights in our canyon.

The last time (that I am aware of), our neighbor's game camera picked up the light. It was almost as light as day for a few seconds. And lit up an area that was too huge for any lights that we know to have lit it up. It seemed to me that it was like the area was being scanned, more lower to the ground, in the area between our two places. No sound.

And in all cases, our dogs didn't bark.

[mountain_jim]

copying here


https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1871285539229618386

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Chief Nerd
@TheChiefNerd
NEW — Tucker Carlson on the Drone Sightings Over New Jersey: “Something Big is Happening”

“Here's what I know. I know that something actually big is happening. I think we can deduce that. I know that the coverup is bipartisan. That always makes me uncomfortable when both sides are in on something. And I know that I don't know what it really is. I've never had this experience before.”

Full Episode:

@eduneret@TuckerCarlson

[Moemers]

anyone getting sick from any of this?

[RunningDeer]

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[ErtheVessel]

I don't know if anyone else has posted this guy, maybe on another thread? It's from a YouTube channel called Homesteading Off The Grid. He's had his channel for eight years, and as far as I can tell, it's not typically been about drone/UFO stuff, so it looks like this topic is new for him.

Here are three of his recent videos, which are kind of long-winded, but may be interesting to someone.

This first one is about two sightings of drones while on his property, one with his wife and one when he was alone. In both cases, they, and then he, experienced three days of sickness and then felt well. He has talked to others who have also fallen ill after a drone sighting.

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This second one is about comments he received on the first video above, that YouTube was censoring. He reads those censored comments here.

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This third video is about the possibility that abductions are also happening with the drone/plasmoid sightings.

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This guy lives in central Virginia with his wife and son on about six acres of land and is a vet (ex-military). Don't know how credible he is, as I've never watched him before, but I thought it was an interesting addition to the narrative.

[Delight]

orbs drones plasmoids compendium

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[onevoice]

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Dr. Steven Greer is best known for his dedication to disclosing classified UFO and extraterrestrial information. Over the past 30 years, he has briefed senior government officials worldwide, conducted hundreds of interviews, press conferences, and lectures. As the author of five books and the producer of documentaries seen by millions, he continues to educate people on peaceful contact with interstellar civilizations, the world of UFOs and UAPs, CE5 contact protocols, meditation techniques, and the transformative power of free energy.


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[mojo]

Hi all,
Made this analysis and the video stills at the end are interesting especially at 5:31. I can see a shadow of a bigger object above and on the right hand side of the lights. When watching the slow motion part 2 of the video it looks to be one large object with lights shinning on two areas of the craft. Sharing this because most of the recent drone footage isnt in night vision but they do show blinking lights like this video. If I filmed this today dollars to donuts people would be saying its a drone. So in closing perhaps some of those drone videos are in fact a UFO.

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[Johnnycomelately]

Drone story of a different type. More mundane, but still somewhat scary. Vid is embedded; should be clips up on YouTube, will edit to add if I find something. Edit, done.

Spectacles of dozens or hundreds of lit drones performing a choreographed big image in the night sky, are a thing now. There was a discussion last year here at PA, forget what thread and it was off topic for that thread. Mentioned was their apparent vulnerability to GPS disruption, but I don’t think that was the cause here. The engineering model for this sort of thing, relies on that many consumer gizmos not failing. This is like Boeing, but instead of the top management being bean counters, it’s artists.

7-year-old injured in drone accident

The U.S. FAA is investigating a drone show malfunction in Florida that seriously injured a 7-year-old child.
Dec. 23, 2024 2:18 p.m. MST

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video/c3052263-7-year-old-injured-in-drone-accident

Edit, found the same vid clips, on a news show called Good Morning America.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYL4x2xOpxU

[QueenRia]

This is a great conversation with Gregg Braden, John Petersen & Penny Kelly. They take the bird's eye view and try to identify
- what aspect could be an 'op',
- what aspect is real,
- what does it mean,
- and what is going to happen next

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[QueenRia]

I don't know if anyone else has posted this guy, maybe on another thread? It's from a YouTube channel called Homesteading Off The Grid. He's had his channel for eight years, and as far as I can tell, it's not typically been about drone/UFO stuff, so it looks like this topic is new for him.


This guy got recommended to me several times by the Youtube algorithm. He's playing nicely into the fear-based narrative that I suspect is part of whatever psy-op is currently being run, so I'm not surprised his videos are being pushed by the algorithm. He doesn't seem well-informed to me though.

[rgray222]

This is the first serious mainstream story I have seen that starts pointing the finger at otherworldly beings as the primary cause of the drone event. I can't help but think that this is intentional.

Former defense official makes earth-shattering UFO revelation as unexplained drones leave millions on edge

A man camping alone in California reported bright, white oval light, completely silent, hovering above trees

Video: https://www.foxnews.com/video/6366201454112

Testimony and several reports have exposed unidentified flying object (UFO) sightings across the country amid the national attention on apparent drone observations over recent weeks.

Luiz Elizondo, the former head of the Defense Department's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, and other witnesses testified before Congress last month about an alleged government group "hid[ing] the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos."

"I believe that we as Americans can handle the truth. And I also believe the world deserves the truth," Elizondo said, urging Congress to enact legislation protecting whistleblowers too afraid to come forward.

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This UFO was photographed when it hovered for 15 minutes near the Holloman Air Development Center in Alamogordo, N.M., on Dec. 16, 1957. (Bettmann/Aerial Phenomena Research Organization/Getty Images)

The hearing was part of a larger effort by lawmakers to investigate UFOs, or unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAPs), and determine whether elements within the government are unlawfully withholding evidence from Congress.

Meanwhile, UFO sightings have been reported in every U.S. state, according to the National UFO Reporting Center, the largest independently collected set of UFO/UAP sighting reports online.

A military-trained observer reported that he was camping alone in Mountain Center, California, in October when suddenly all natural outdoor-related noises went silent and the entire area "lit up brighter than the brightest full moon he’d ever seen," according to the UFO reporting site.

The man said he saw a bright, white oval light that was about 20 to 30 feet long and hovering at treetop level, adding that the light remained completely still and noiseless, emitted no heat and resembled a large helicopter.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/01/720/405/GettyImages-1378994527.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Several pilots also reported seeing three or four UFOs in the sky over Oregon, flying at different altitudes, just a few weeks ago, KPTV reported.

The pilots reported seeing strange, red circular lights zipping around at night, and a United Airlines pilot contacted the control tower to talk about moving lights seen over western Oregon, the outlet reported.

In April 2022, a witness said she noticed a light in the sky over a reservoir in Connecticut, believing it was potentially an unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP/UFO), according to NewsNation.

"I’m always a sky watcher, so I was wondering if it was a plane," the woman told the outlet. "But the way it was moving, there’s no way it was a plane."

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/09/720/405/ufo-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

While recent sightings of drones or mysterious aircraft are not exactly UFO observations, they have, nonetheless, raised concerns and have even attracted the attention of the FBI, sparking conversation about the possibility of other unidentified flying objects in the sky.

"The FBI Newark, NJ State Police, and NJ Office of Homeland Security and Preparedness are asking for the public to report any information related to the recent sightings of possible drones flying in several areas along the Raritan River," a Dec. 3 FBI statement noted.

Last week, the Federal Aviation Administration issued temporary flight restrictions, which expire Jan. 17, 2025, prohibiting drone flights over parts of New Jersey after the influx of sightings, excluding drone operations in support of national defense, homeland security, law enforcement, firefighting, search and rescue or disaster response missions.

However, White House National Security Communications Adviser John Kirby recently told Fox News the mysterious drones flying over the country are in fact "legal" and "lawful."

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/12/720/405/drones-new-jersey-faa-sightings_03.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

The White House, in coordination with the FBI and state and local officials, examined roughly 5,000 sightings, and their analysis concludes that "lawful, legal, commercial hobbyist and even law enforcement aircraft activity" is responsible for the sightings, Kirby said about the assessment.

In a recent statement by the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, the Federal Aviation Administration and the Department of Defense, the agencies said that while they "recognize the concern," there is no evidence that the drones are "anomalous" or a threat to national security or public safety.

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-defense-official-makes-earth-shattering-ufo-prediction-unexplained-drones-leave-millions-edge

[norman]

Happy Christmas

https://rumble.com/v60nt7k-idiots-panicking-about-the-drones-over-new-jersey.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

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[QueenRia]

This second one is about comments he received on the first video above, that YouTube was censoring. He reads those censored comments here.

By the way, he is not reading CENSORED comments. He's reading "comments held for review". When Youtube censors a comment, it gets deleted instantly, so the channel owner never even sees it. A lot of my own comments get censored that way, it's very frustrating. When a comment gets "held for review", the comment only got flagged for whatever reason (might even have to do with the channel's settings) and Youtube lets the channel owner decide.

[norman]

In my own mind, I can well imagine that the black underbelly of government has been playing with antigravity for many decades and so very likely has stored specimens/production-runs of much older technological applications of antigravity science they were doing as far back as the 50s.

Grabbing such old stock out of underground facilities/storage to put to use in an event like this would probably require a lot of Calibration Flights and general deployment capability testing here and now at the end of 2024. Would that explain the variability of the sightings ? . . I think it very well could. When it's "all hands on deck" that includes old and maybe even very old hands that have not seen the light of day/night since I was born.

In this video Courtenay Turner looks at plenty of interesting data/documentation, joins a few interesting dots and has plenty of interesting comments to make about the 'Drones'. Even though there seems to be video evidence of unusually fast and "physics" defying elements to the story, I think she's ploughing in the right direction.

I recommend diving into this video at around 12 minutes and I suggest keeping in mind that Trump probably knows a LOT more than he's letting on.

https://rumble.com/v62l2rw-is-there-a-technocracy-andor-psyop-behind-the-drones-mystery-courtenay-turn.html?start=721

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[Denise/Dizi]

Whether or not the drone issue is being used to create fear, or a psyop, is what the viewers make of it, and how they allow themselves at an individual level, to perceive such things... A psyop won't work if the public spends a bit of time doing their own homework or really thinking something through.

If a psyop, the reason for such things, is for an adversary to believe WE BELIEVE that we have something to fear.

The ones we really should be paying attention to, are the ones that we know the military are observing... Those are being tested, scanned, and examined, while still in the air, to see what they really are... And if the military is examining them while they're still in the air, they're doing so because they want to know what they're dealing with.

Which means, they may not just be someone's backyard toy. It could be the military trying to disarm something they sent up, or examining something that shouldn't be there.

Those are the drones we really should focus on, the rest? Not worthy of the effort in my opinion. But a psyop? I would be concerned if I was given the task of protecting our airspace at all times, and a rouge unknown drone appeared in our skies...

But rest assured, they know what they're looking for... They get the patent requests long before these things hit the skies... It's those they have no record of they're really looking at in a serious manner.

It could be we sent them up, to then "FAKE EXAMINE THEM".. And then use outdated technology to give the illusion we do not have more advanced technologies to do such things.. It's a shell game, as you do not want to tip your hand. Usually the psyop isn't to fool Americans, but rather our adversaries, and or to paint an illusion for them... And the media wouldn't be told which is which, in which case the media themselves would hype it up for ratings...

The news thrives when hype is created... But the individuals shouldn't worry... Unless they see military involvement.

[SilentFeathers]

Whether or not the drone issue is being used to create fear, or a psyop, is what the viewers make of it, and how they allow themselves at an individual level, to perceive such things... A psyop won't work if the public spends a bit of time doing their own homework or really thinking something through.

If a psyop, the reason for such things, is for an adversary to believe WE BELIEVE that we have something to fear.

The ones we really should be paying attention to, are the ones that we know the military are observing... Those are being tested, scanned, and examined, while still in the air, to see what they really are... And if the military is examining them while they're still in the air, they're doing so because they want to know what they're dealing with.

Which means, they may not just be someone's backyard toy. It could be the military trying to disarm something they sent up, or examining something that shouldn't be there.

Those are the drones we really should focus on, the rest? Not worthy of the effort in my opinion. But a psyop? I would be concerned if I was given the task of protecting our airspace at all times, and a rouge unknown drone appeared in our skies...

But rest assured, they know what they're looking for... They get the patent requests long before these things hit the skies... It's those they have no record of they're really looking at in a serious manner.

It could be we sent them up, to then "FAKE EXAMINE THEM".. And then use outdated technology to give the illusion we do not have more advanced technologies to do such things.. It's a shell game, as you do not want to tip your hand. Usually the psyop isn't to fool Americans, but rather our adversaries, and or to paint an illusion for them... And the media wouldn't be told which is which, in which case the media themselves would hype it up for ratings...

The news thrives when hype is created... But the individuals shouldn't worry... Unless they see military involvement.

Many are already losing interest as these drone things are becoming boring and aren't blowing up buildings or targeting and killing people. The conditioning and new normal is to have things flying around overhead now all the time.

Regardless, I still suspect these things are weapons to be used against us during a martial law type of situation or if we are just simply misbehaving. We're likely to see how nasty these things are if they pull out the rug from under Trump on January 20th and people start "protesting" and or rioting because of it.

[Mike]

Whether or not the drone issue is being used to create fear, or a psyop, is what the viewers make of it, and how they allow themselves at an individual level, to perceive such things... A psyop won't work if the public spends a bit of time doing their own homework or really thinking something through.

If a psyop, the reason for such things, is for an adversary to believe WE BELIEVE that we have something to fear.

The ones we really should be paying attention to, are the ones that we know the military are observing... Those are being tested, scanned, and examined, while still in the air, to see what they really are... And if the military is examining them while they're still in the air, they're doing so because they want to know what they're dealing with.

Which means, they may not just be someone's backyard toy. It could be the military trying to disarm something they sent up, or examining something that shouldn't be there.

Those are the drones we really should focus on, the rest? Not worthy of the effort in my opinion. But a psyop? I would be concerned if I was given the task of protecting our airspace at all times, and a rouge unknown drone appeared in our skies...

But rest assured, they know what they're looking for... They get the patent requests long before these things hit the skies... It's those they have no record of they're really looking at in a serious manner.

It could be we sent them up, to then "FAKE EXAMINE THEM".. And then use outdated technology to give the illusion we do not have more advanced technologies to do such things.. It's a shell game, as you do not want to tip your hand. Usually the psyop isn't to fool Americans, but rather our adversaries, and or to paint an illusion for them... And the media wouldn't be told which is which, in which case the media themselves would hype it up for ratings...

The news thrives when hype is created... But the individuals shouldn't worry... Unless they see military involvement.

Many are already losing interest as these drone things are becoming boring and aren't blowing up buildings or targeting and killing people. The conditioning and new normal is to have things flying around overhead now all the time.

Regardless, I still suspect these things are weapons to be used against us during a martial law type of situation or if we are just simply misbehaving. We're likely to see how nasty these things are if they pull out the rug from under Trump on January 20th and people start "protesting" and or rioting because of it.


Well said.

I'll admit: I'm getting bored with it too! The human mind can only remain in a state of suspense for so long before it finally exhausts itself, shrugs, and resumes whatever it was doing before.

I recall experiencing this phenomena when I was a kid, lying in bed, terrified after waking from a nightmare or whatever. I'd remain in a heightened state of stress and fear and suspense for quite a while before my body and mind just couldn't maintain it anymore. And then I'd either fall back asleep or get up and distract myself by reading or playing video games or something. And I'm doing the equivalent as an adult now. I'm just back to thinking and doing all my normal stuff, and could hardly give a sh!t about the "drones".

Maybe I've fallen victim to the psy op that you've described above. Maybe it's some form of demoralization at knowing we'll never get an honest answer anyway. Or maybe I've been so neck deep in UFO and paranormal stuff over the years that I'm just not too surprised by it all, and therefore not all that interested. All the above? Hard to say.

I'd like to know what the heck is going on! But I think I already know. And I think that's the main reason behind my indifference actually. I think it's a classic UFO "flap", and the military sent up drones as a kind of misdirection/distraction. I feel pretty confident in that theory.

[SilentFeathers]

Whether or not the drone issue is being used to create fear, or a psyop, is what the viewers make of it, and how they allow themselves at an individual level, to perceive such things... A psyop won't work if the public spends a bit of time doing their own homework or really thinking something through.

If a psyop, the reason for such things, is for an adversary to believe WE BELIEVE that we have something to fear.

The ones we really should be paying attention to, are the ones that we know the military are observing... Those are being tested, scanned, and examined, while still in the air, to see what they really are... And if the military is examining them while they're still in the air, they're doing so because they want to know what they're dealing with.

Which means, they may not just be someone's backyard toy. It could be the military trying to disarm something they sent up, or examining something that shouldn't be there.

Those are the drones we really should focus on, the rest? Not worthy of the effort in my opinion. But a psyop? I would be concerned if I was given the task of protecting our airspace at all times, and a rouge unknown drone appeared in our skies...

But rest assured, they know what they're looking for... They get the patent requests long before these things hit the skies... It's those they have no record of they're really looking at in a serious manner.

It could be we sent them up, to then "FAKE EXAMINE THEM".. And then use outdated technology to give the illusion we do not have more advanced technologies to do such things.. It's a shell game, as you do not want to tip your hand. Usually the psyop isn't to fool Americans, but rather our adversaries, and or to paint an illusion for them... And the media wouldn't be told which is which, in which case the media themselves would hype it up for ratings...

The news thrives when hype is created... But the individuals shouldn't worry... Unless they see military involvement.

Many are already losing interest as these drone things are becoming boring and aren't blowing up buildings or targeting and killing people. The conditioning and new normal is to have things flying around overhead now all the time.

Regardless, I still suspect these things are weapons to be used against us during a martial law type of situation or if we are just simply misbehaving. We're likely to see how nasty these things are if they pull out the rug from under Trump on January 20th and people start "protesting" and or rioting because of it.


Well said.

I'll admit: I'm getting bored with it too! The human mind can only remain in a state of suspense for so long before it finally exhausts itself, shrugs, and resumes whatever it was doing before.

I recall experiencing this phenomena when I was a kid, lying in bed, terrified after waking from a nightmare or whatever. I'd remain in a heightened state of stress and fear and suspense for quite a while before my body and mind just couldn't maintain it anymore. And then I'd either fall back asleep or get up and distract myself by reading or playing video games or something. And I'm doing the equivalent as an adult now. I'm just back to thinking and doing all my normal stuff, and could hardly give a sh!t about the "drones".

Maybe I've fallen victim to the psy op that you've described above. Maybe it's some form of demoralization at knowing we'll never get an honest answer anyway. Or maybe I've been so neck deep in UFO and paranormal stuff over the years that I'm just not too surprised by it all, and therefore not all that interested. All the above? Hard to say.

I'd like to know what the heck is going on! But I think I already know. And I think that's the main reason behind my indifference actually. I think it's a classic UFO "flap", and the military sent up drones as a kind of misdirection/distraction. I feel pretty confident in that theory.

I think we've reached a point that if they came clean and actually did come out and tell us the truth, we wouldn't believe them anyways!

I've kind of decided to go with my theory until I see something different to change my mind. All I know for sure is that things are getting really weird!

[SilentFeathers]

Here's a post I made on March 6th, 2013 in the thread: Brainwave and Thought Pattern Manipulation - AI Technology And The Invasion Of Our Minds (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55549-Brainwave-and-Thought-Pattern-Manipulation-AI-Technology-And-The-Invasion-Of-Our-Minds) Post #119 in thread.

Just think what they can do with any kind of drone now-a-days....


Another "leg" of this technology....more evidence most of the technology in todays world is being weaponized one way or another, whether its to spy on people or to kill people, either way it's a weapon....


Recently uncovered government documents reveal that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) unmanned Predator B drone fleet has been customize designed to identify civilians carrying guns and track cell phone signals.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/05/Homeland-Security-Drones-Designed-To-Identify-Civilians-Carrying-Guns

also this....


Eric Holder: Drone strikes against Americans on U.S. soil are legal
March 5, 2013
http://washingtonexaminer.com/eric-holder-drone-strikes-against-americans-on-u.s.-soil-are-legal/article/2523319


DHS built domestic surveillance tech into Predator drones
Homeland Security's specifications say drones must be able to detect whether a civilian is armed. Also specified: "signals interception" and "direction finding" for electronic surveillance.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has customized its Predator drones, originally built for overseas military operations, to carry out at-home surveillance tasks that have civil libertarians worried: identifying civilians carrying guns and tracking their cell phones, government documents show.
The documents provide more details about the surveillance capabilities of the department's unmanned Predator B drones, which are primarily used to patrol the United States' northern and southern borders but have been pressed into service on behalf of a growing number of law enforcement agencies including the FBI, the Secret Service, the Texas Rangers, and local police.
Homeland Security's specifications for its drones, built by San Diego-based General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, say they "shall be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not," meaning carrying a shotgun or rifle. They also specify "signals interception" technology that can capture communications in the frequency ranges used by mobile phones, and "direction finding" technology that can identify the locations of mobile devices or two-way radios.
MORE: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57572207-38/dhs-built-domestic-surveillance-tech-into-predator-drones/

ADDED: 2 links are broken and no longer work but I assure you they were working in 2013 when I made this post.

[Delight]

Ashton Forbes and Tom Montalk talking plasma physics and more...


Ashton Forbes
Dec 8, 2024
Tom Montalk Hard Truths - The Physics of UFOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3H4-qh6ys0
Welcome to the Hard Truths Podcast. Today's guest is Tom Montalk, electrical engineer and physicist.

We discuss UFO disclosure, aliens, scalar physics, and plasma orbs.

Find Tom on X or his website

https://montalk.net/
https://x.com/TomMontalk

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[Artemesia]

Ok this is not specifically related to the recent plethora of ‘drone’ sightings. It is instead about a possible recently taken alien photo? I mean we have all heard of the ol’ M.I.B. Movie joke that people who work in the post office are aliens but… did I just accidentally capture evidence of that being potentially accurate? You can decide for yourself.

As for calling these current sightings ‘drones’ … can we please just use the old term that made sense to everyone … UFOs? At least here on Avalon which is ‘polite and awakened’ company, right?

James Bartley recently pointed out on his Cosmic Switchboard talk with Dan Armstrong that when there is a Mars opposition, there is typically an uptick in sightings of craft. Mars went retrograde on Dec 9, right about when the New Jersey sightings took off.

ANYWAYS, since this currently seems to be the fastest moving thread on Avalon related to UFO and alien sightings, I felt I should put this here.

So here is my story about these images. On Dec 23 (Monday this week) I had to go in person to the post office to ask the postmaster a question about my mail service. The person behind the counter said he was around somewhere and he was just there but he would ‘pop up’ sometime soon. His words, exactly. So I am asked to step aside and wait on the other side of the counter. There was a door to my left. I had to wait awhile and there was a cute Christmas stocking on the wall with an owl on it and a nice idea for a felt envelope above that I thought might be something I myself might make. Also, owl and aliens. Some of my owl/contactee stories are in Mike Clelland’s book:

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Anyways, I snapped a picture with my phone of the stocking. Later that night I cropped the photo to zoom in on the felt envelope on the stocking as my template for something I ended up making as a Christmas ‘gift wrap’ holder with supplies I had at home. Well tonight I ‘hear’ … revert to the original image, look closely at it there’s something ELSE to see. Outta the blue. Completely normal for me by the way, I get this all the time.

Anyways I look again at the image. There is a mirror that allows the person inside the office, accessed by the lobby door on my left as I took the photo, to look out and see what is happening at the counter. When I took the picture the postmaster had just come back inside and entered the door on my left with a broom in his hand. I snapped the image. And… what I want to know from other Avalonians is… who exactly do you think is sitting at the postmaster’s desk when the postmaster entered the door with the broom in his hand, per the reversed fish eye mirror image in this photo, when zoomed in?54207

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[Ratszinger]

Remember when the Military wanted and was actively looking for a small utility vehicle light in weight that would carry soldiers and supplies in the roughest terrain? They called out all the companies making them and had them perform and they watched and graded from afar the performance of the Jeep like vehicles. In the end Bantum's design was chosen but being it was government property and Willy's could make more and faster they got the contract.

Same thing going on now only with military drones. This is the performance. They are being graded and one or more will be chosen as will some of the components from some but not the entire drone and so on just like with the Jeeps. No different really. Same zoo, different animals.

[Moemers]

Remember when the Military wanted and was actively looking for a small utility vehicle light in weight that would carry soldiers and supplies in the roughest terrain? They called out all the companies making them and had them perform and they watched and graded from afar the performance of the Jeep like vehicles. In the end Bantum's design was chosen but being it was government property and Willy's could make more and faster they got the contract.

Same thing going on now only with military drones. This is the performance. They are being graded and one or more will be chosen as will some of the components from some but not the entire drone and so on just like with the Jeeps. No different really. Same zoo, different animals.

i like this theory

[Marianne]

Ross Coulthart of Reality Check on UAPs, drones, US legacy program/ Immaculate constellation
“We are being misled and lied to.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sucrnlxq8CA&list=PL6PrA6lo8rJLRExhMvX6wKyNzy0hr_QM3&index=7
This video is from three weeks ago. Ross says he will have more information forthcoming. On the News Nation website he has posted more videos but I haven’t viewed them yet.

At the 30 minute mark, it was interesting to listen to his opinion on the consciousness connection and psyonic abilities in operating these crafts. To paraphrase, these non-human intelligences may be here to slowly tweak our awareness and encourage us to develop and use abilities we didn’t know we possessed.

He went on to discuss:
UAPs over atomic energy facilities worldwide
Religion/the Vatican
The experimentation on children by the U.S. deep state
Portals
Bigfoot
Skinwalker Ranch

[mountain_jim]

:)

https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1872701308983230875

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[rgray222]

I wrote this article for my website back in 2014, it may have more relevance today than it did back then. I believe the drones are tied into the much larger UFO/UAP issue. I am fortunate that this article survived because the website was taken down and the name sold off without my knowledge or approval.


UFOs Have Been Visiting Earth For a Long Time, Why?
While many acknowledge the presence of extraterrestrials in our world they are at a complete loss to explain why they are here. As with most things in life, the explanation is fairly straightforward and not that difficult to comprehend. Understanding the primary motive of extraterrestrial visits will help explain the UFO phenomenon.

Most people believe that extraterrestrials are visiting Earth to monitor the progress and behavior of humanity. To a certain extent that might be true, but it is much more likely that they are periodically coming here to examine the health of Planet Earth. After all, even our scientists are beginning to come around to the idea that Planet Earth is a living sentient being. In the greater cosmos, human and extraterrestrial life may be fairly common. On the other hand, what little we know about other planets, and the universe at large, indicates that our home planet is an extremely desirable and rare occurrence within the cosmos.

People have wondered for a long time why ET has not made their presence known. If we are not the primary reason why they are here, why would they disclose their existence? The survival of mankind is probably very far down their list of priorities. For that matter, the survival of humanity may not even be on their list of priorities. Have you ever stopped to consider that Planet Earth would have more value to an alien race if there were no humans inhabiting the planet?

Everything we need to sustain life has been provided for us on Planet Earth. We are blessed with an abundance of water, sunshine, breathable air, enough land and food to house and feed 7 billion people. We share Earth with millions of species of plant, animal and insect life, each playing an important role in the ecosystem, that in itself is remarkable. It makes our planet an astonishing place, a very rare and unusual gem among the stars.

Those who follow UFOs closely know the largest wave of UFO sightings in modern times coincided with the discovery of splitting the atom and the use of Atomic Energy during WWII. In other words, when we discovered how to manipulate nuclear energy we triggered an unprecedented wave of UFO sightings.

There are well-documented cases of UFOs hovering over nuclear military facilities in both the United States and Russia. Reliable witnesses state that the craft were tampering with the nuclear armament control systems. This behavior by UFOs and their occupants was not an accident and it was clearly a message to humanity.

Many people 'want' to believe that if things get out of control and WWIII gets under way our extraterrestrial brethren will step in and save humanity, nothing could be further from the truth. ET may step in and save Planet Earth, but they will have little time and no admiration for a species that never understood how good they had it in the first place.

There is little doubt that Earth's oceans, forests and species of plants and animals are worth saving. The living, breathing, self-regulating sentient being that we are living on is at the core of their mission.

UFOs have a long and documented history of appearing just after natural or man-made catastrophic events. There is not much question that they are keeping their eye on the prize we call Earth.

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[NancyV]

I saw a few of the videos where people talked to the "UFO"s and they seemed to respond by flashing a light. It wouldn't surprise me if they hear people's thoughts or words, if they are non terrestrial "vehicles" or orbs. It seems like there are a combination of advanced US vehicles and possibly some non terrestrial vehicles.

I think it was in about 1990 that I was driving to New Mexico alone, from California. I stopped at about 11 pm by the side of the road, looked up into the sky and saw maybe 4-5 vehicles/orbs up in the sky. They were pretty high up. I thought at them "how about coming closer so I can see you better". They began to descend and came a lot closer but I then thought at them "Okay, that's close enough! Go away!". They immediately reversed direction and began to ascend again. I knew it wasn't a coincidence but they could "hear" what I was thinking. That was fun. :)

[Did You See Them]

Quite a decent account of one of the Orbs.

https://x.com/jcutillo/status/1872388988751028230
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[thepainterdoug]

Thanks Did you see them.
will the recent drone craze make more sky watchers from those who never had interest? I think so.

[RunningDeer]

Not sure this will embed but quiet a decent account of one of the Orbs.
https://x.com/jcutillo/status/1872388988751028230?t=jMEj52MKiuD8FHBcwpYH7w&s=19





Source (https://x.com/jcutillo/status/1872388988751028230)


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[SilentFeathers]

Being scientific about this, here's a hypothesis.


These are non-human artifacts that have been deployed to attract our attention. The intention is that they should be widely noticed. (Just maybe to raise the level of public discussion, and/or government 'disclosure'.)

If this is correct, it's tested with the prediction that if they're NOT being noticed (and discussed) enough, the non-humans will up the ante and the 'drones' (i.e. UFOs, as per definition!) will become more and more visible in prominent locations all over the world.

So let's see if that starts to happen. :)

I'm not sure what to think of this yet.

The thought did cross my mind that perhaps they were also actually up in the sky during the day, but at a higher altitude and with some type of mirroring or cloaking device, making them extremely hard to see.

Considering that they have the FAA required lighting on them they most likely are ours, almost certainly military.

A theory I've been rattling in my brain is that this may be a whole new type of missile defense system being implemented. With everything going on right now and a very likely strike pending on Iran, I'm wondering if "they" thought the time was now to activate this new missile defense system. These drones seem to be "monitoring" the NYC area and are quite within range of DC and other high value enemy targets.

This would in a way explain why no one is saying what they are or what they are doing. Telling the public that they are a missile defense system and that there has been threats against NYC etc., surly would cause panic.

At 4 minutes into this video, this guy Clayton is interviewing mentions that his strongest theory about these drones is that they are a new type of missile defense system. Hmmm, I haven't heard many at all go in this direction with this theory about these drones.

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NOTE: There's also a lot of good information in this video about plasma and orbs, etc.

[Moemers]

i had that thought today too, weird...maybe this is the deployment of some missile defense system? or a test?

[SilentFeathers]

i had that thought today too, weird...maybe this is the deployment of some missile defense system? or a test?

It's possible these things may be armed with some mind-blowing laser technology that can actually take down these new missiles Russia just introduced to the world stage.

[Moemers]

would you flex them like this though? wouldnt you just wait til the missile was coming, then hit the alert (the one they tested in Hawaii...) so people could watch as a staggeringly advanced team of AI missile killer drones suddenly netted the US like a warm blanket?

thats what i would do. also, 101 level conspiracy philosophy here but if it can keep them out...it can keep you in...

[Olaf]

The team of Laura Knight-Jadczyk had a session about the UFO/drone sightings on 21 December 2024.
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/threads/session-21-december-2024.55396/.

Her Cassiopeian contacts claim that the UFOs are part of an ongoing alien invasion designed to frighten people and prepare them for an open transfer of power to our alien overlords.
The Prime Directive does not allow for open invasion, so it is more like psychologic warfare.

On the other hand, they claim that the man-made drones are a counter-measure by the powers that be to declare everything as man-made and normal to prevent mass panic.

[Flash]

The team of Laura Knight-Jadczyk had a session about the UFO/drone sightings on 21 December 2024.
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/threads/session-21-december-2024.55396/.

Her Cassiopeian contacts claim that the UFOs are part of an ongoing alien invasion designed to frighten people and prepare them for an open transfer of power to our alien overlords.
The First Directive does not allow for open invasion, so it is more like psycholigical warfare.

On the other hand, they claim that the man-made drones are a counter-measure by the powers that be to declare everything as man-made and normal to prevent mass panic.

Although the Cassiopean contact and Laura Knight have been on my falsehood list for yeaaars, that the cabal could try to make us believe every drone is human in order to avoid fear in us is the first good thing they would have done for us. Fear is always the path taken to control us, the ‘Elite’ knows it very well.

I hope that we won’t fall for fear, that is Alians or Cabal Elite.

[Blastolabs]

The team of Laura Knight-Jadczyk had a session about the UFO/drone sightings on 21 December 2024.
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/threads/session-21-december-2024.55396/.


From that channeling above, "Closest description is human origin drones are meant to distract from "alien" drones and probes."

This is what I've been saying all along.
In the days before the "drones" we saw a HUGE increase in UFO sightings, along with what I would say are a few of the best photos ever to make it into the public of UFOs, all within about 3 days.

[Phoenix1304]

If you’ve seen my posts on this thread you’ll know what I think is going on, so I won’t repeat myself. But I wanted to share what felt to me like a special Christmas gift.

I was talking to a friend on Christmas Eve about the whole thing and said a bit peeved, ‘yet I haven’t had a sighting and I’m a believer!’.

So I woke at 03.30ish on Christmas Day and couldn’t get back to sleep, went into kitchen to make some tea, after an hour or so I opened the back door for a breath of fresh and looked out into the misty night, (there has been blanket fog and mist over the whole of the UK until today actually). Lo! there in the northwest was a very bright light in the otherwise black night, it was clearly not a star as nothing else was visible and it was not round but more elongated, so I got my phone and tried to zoom in on it.

New phone, I fumbled with the new camera button and thought I’d taken numerous shots. It didn’t move for the few minutes I watched it so it didn’t occur to me to shoot video. I mentally said ‘if you hear me, give me a single flash’, a second later flashed off, like a light going out, there were no moving clouds or anything like that, just blanket fog, and in an instant it was gone as if in response to my thought.

I hate to post one of those fuzzy amateur zoomed photos, but this was my very own UFO sighting and I felt it was a validation for me that at least some of these sightings are actual ET craft that we might communicate with telepathically. I think the shadowy stuff around the light itself in the first one is the aerial on my neighbour’s roof, it was a very dark sky except for this bright, bright light.

Now to add further mystery, someone might be able to explain, is that when I looked, there were only two shots on the camera and I simply cannot fathom the second one (which is marked as taken a minute after the first). It is a shot of a starry night yet the cloud cover was solid and it never looked that way to the naked eye for a moment. Could the camera have readjusted somehow and seen through all that fog? If you zoom in on it, you can see two sets of two lights and possibly part of a constellation. How can this be?

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[Mike]

Coincidentally I had my first commercial drone sighting about a week ago. This was truly a drone.

I was taking a walk during a work break, and suddenly it sounded as if I had a swarm of bees in my ears. It startled me, and I began looking around for the source and noticed this drone flying no more than 50 feet above my head. A small square-shaped drone with 4 propellers on each corner.

I lost track of it as it zoomed over some trees, and resumed my walk. I saw it again about 5 mins later, hovering over an adjacent highway, maybe 150 yards off the ground. It was a windy day but it remained eerily motionless. I watched it for a few mins and walked off.

It was a traffic drone, which I guess is kinda common around here but it was the first time I'd ever seen one, which seemed like an odd coincidence at the time

[seehas]

If you’ve seen my posts on this thread you’ll know what I think is going on, so I won’t repeat myself. But I wanted to share what felt to me like a special Christmas gift.

I was talking to a friend on Christmas Eve about the whole thing and said a bit peeved, ‘yet I haven’t had a sighting and I’m a believer!’.

So I woke at 03.30ish on Christmas Day and couldn’t get back to sleep, went into kitchen to make some tea, after an hour or so I opened the back door for a breath of fresh and looked out into the misty night, (there has been blanket fog and mist over the whole of the UK until today actually). Lo! there in the northwest was a very bright light in the otherwise black night, it was clearly not a star as nothing else was visible and it was not round but more elongated, so I got my phone and tried to zoom in on it.

New phone, I fumbled with the new camera button and thought I’d taken numerous shots. It didn’t move for the few minutes I watched it so it didn’t occur to me to shoot video. I mentally said ‘if you hear me, give me a single flash’, a second later flashed off, like a light going out, there were no moving clouds or anything like that, just blanket fog, and in an instant it was gone as if in response to my thought.

I hate to post one of those fuzzy amateur zoomed photos, but this was my very own UFO sighting and I felt it was a validation for me that at least some of these sightings are actual ET craft that we might communicate with telepathically. I think the shadowy stuff around the light itself in the first one is the aerial on my neighbour’s roof, it was a very dark sky except for this bright, bright light.

Now to add further mystery, someone might be able to explain, is that when I looked, there were only two shots on the camera and I simply cannot fathom the second one (which is marked as taken a minute after the first). It is a shot of a starry night yet the cloud cover was solid and it never looked that way to the naked eye for a moment. Could the camera have readjusted somehow and seen through all that fog? If you zoom in on it, you can see two sets of two lights and possibly part of a constellation. How can this be?

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amazing sight! :heart: what was your heart feeling during the communication? did you feel you had a connection to it?

[Tintin]

Something for consideration, maybe, shared by Chris Martenson on X (https://x.com/chrismartenson/status/1873050899880526268). Although I'm not convinced these multiple sightings are being created this way, it appears doable, to create something similar very cheaply, as per:

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[TrumanCash]

The Dark Journalist, Daniel Liszt, said that there were "missing time" incidents reported in relation to the New Jersey drone sightings on Alex Jones recently. Has anyone else here seen or heard of reports of "missing time" in relation to drones from any other source?

Of course that could be disinformation from the CIA or other "intelligence" source, which I would suspect it to be. But it is curious.

Of course, as I stated in my books nearly thirty years ago that "missing time" is a misnomer. Abductees are not missing "time"--they are missing memory.

However, in all my many experiences with being abducted I've never seen an alien ship that looked like a modern human-made drone with propellers, which would be rather absurd, IMO, since I've only seen alien craft that looked like typical "flying saucers", which actually don't "fly" in the usual definition of the word.

There was one exception to that when I was abducted into a different looking craft that took me to a huge Grays mothership. The abducting craft in that particular abduction was very small and it had long landing gear that held it about eight to ten feet off the ground and I had to climb a ladder to get into it. It had a window in it where I could see the huge mothership. It reminded me more of the shape of the US-made space capsule that landed on the moon (allegedly).

My wife said she saw the imprints of the landing gear in the grass outside our home the next day after seeing the craft the night before. I covered this abduction in my second book, THE EYE OF RA, when I was shown my hybrid children on the mothership.

A friend just sent me videos that he took of three drones in the Las Vegas area that looked like the New Jersey drones. I'm waiting for more information about them from him.

I once saw what I think was a drone about eighteen years ago. It was daytime and I was driving my van with my son in the passenger seat. I saw a small, shiny metallic disk-shaped object zip across the sky at a low altitude and disappear into some low altitude clouds. I asked my son "Did you see that!?" He said "Yes!"

It did not look like modern drones with propellers but it was too small to be a typical Grays ship (unless there were tiny aliens inside). However, I was more inclined to think it was a military drone that looked like a typical "flying saucer". Both my son and I were abductees during that time period. In spite that I still thought it was not alien even though I had been abducted into a Deep Underground Military Base in north central Washington State where I witnessed Grays working with military people in 1994.

I have no doubt that the US military has back-engineered alien craft that look and maneuver like actual alien-made craft.

For those who have not read about my D.U.M.B. experience, you can read about it here on Avalon: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113494-My-underground-base-experience&p=1400388&viewfull=1#post1400388

[Phoenix1304]

If you’ve seen my posts on this thread you’ll know what I think is going on, so I won’t repeat myself. But I wanted to share what felt to me like a special Christmas gift.

I was talking to a friend on Christmas Eve about the whole thing and said a bit peeved, ‘yet I haven’t had a sighting and I’m a believer!’.

So I woke at 03.30ish on Christmas Day and couldn’t get back to sleep, went into kitchen to make some tea, after an hour or so I opened the back door for a breath of fresh and looked out into the misty night, (there has been blanket fog and mist over the whole of the UK until today actually). Lo! there in the northwest was a very bright light in the otherwise black night, it was clearly not a star as nothing else was visible and it was not round but more elongated, so I got my phone and tried to zoom in on it.

New phone, I fumbled with the new camera button and thought I’d taken numerous shots. It didn’t move for the few minutes I watched it so it didn’t occur to me to shoot video. I mentally said ‘if you hear me, give me a single flash’, a second later flashed off, like a light going out, there were no moving clouds or anything like that, just blanket fog, and in an instant it was gone as if in response to my thought.

I hate to post one of those fuzzy amateur zoomed photos, but this was my very own UFO sighting and I felt it was a validation for me that at least some of these sightings are actual ET craft that we might communicate with telepathically. I think the shadowy stuff around the light itself in the first one is the aerial on my neighbour’s roof, it was a very dark sky except for this bright, bright light.

Now to add further mystery, someone might be able to explain, is that when I looked, there were only two shots on the camera and I simply cannot fathom the second one (which is marked as taken a minute after the first). It is a shot of a starry night yet the cloud cover was solid and it never looked that way to the naked eye for a moment. Could the camera have readjusted somehow and seen through all that fog? If you zoom in on it, you can see two sets of two lights and possibly part of a constellation. How can this be?

54222

amazing sight! :heart: what was your heart feeling during the communication? did you feel you had a connection to it?

Hi Seehas. Thanks for your response. I was a bit overexcited actually, hence the camera fumbling, I did feel it was ‘just for me’ following the conversation I’d had the previous night, when I finally thought of trying to communicate the only thing I could come up with was the rather pathetic ‘flash once if you hear me’, when it flashed off I was delighted but felt it was over and didn’t invite any more communication by coming back on. Can’t say I really felt any ‘connection’.

Like others here, no doubt, I’ve had a few unforgettable dreams, one of going onto a large craft with a bunch of other ‘wowies’ as I felt a grumpy old grey sitting there thought rather contemptuously of us, there were several different species of ET in that one, we were ‘visiting’, not abducted. In another I was being shown around by a light being an exquisite, intensely colourful world with the music of the spheres playing, people dancing, high culture, and another I was flying in a small silent triangular car in a high tec city and enquiring of the guide who was showing me round, what kind of energy powered the cars and was told ‘air’. These are lovely, out of the ordinary dreams, but dreams nonetheless.

Did you have any thoughts about that second picture? On reflection, I wondered if it was a cosmic location, until a camera expert tells me different, I’ll go with that…

[Phoenix1304]

Ok this is not specifically related to the recent plethora of ‘drone’ sightings. It is instead about a possible recently taken alien photo? I mean we have all heard of the ol’ M.I.B. Movie joke that people who work in the post office are aliens but… did I just accidentally capture evidence of that being potentially accurate? You can decide for yourself.

As for calling these current sightings ‘drones’ … can we please just use the old term that made sense to everyone … UFOs? At least here on Avalon which is ‘polite and awakened’ company, right?

James Bartley recently pointed out on his Cosmic Switchboard talk with Dan Armstrong that when there is a Mars opposition, there is typically an uptick in sightings of craft. Mars went retrograde on Dec 9, right about when the New Jersey sightings took off.

ANYWAYS, since this currently seems to be the fastest moving thread on Avalon related to UFO and alien sightings, I felt I should put this here.

So here is my story about these images. On Dec 23 (Monday this week) I had to go in person to the post office to ask the postmaster a question about my mail service. The person behind the counter said he was around somewhere and he was just there but he would ‘pop up’ sometime soon. His words, exactly. So I am asked to step aside and wait on the other side of the counter. There was a door to my left. I had to wait awhile and there was a cute Christmas stocking on the wall with an owl on it and a nice idea for a felt envelope above that I thought might be something I myself might make. Also, owl and aliens. Some of my owl/contactee stories are in Mike Clelland’s book:

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Anyways, I snapped a picture with my phone of the stocking. Later that night I cropped the photo to zoom in on the felt envelope on the stocking as my template for something I ended up making as a Christmas ‘gift wrap’ holder with supplies I had at home. Well tonight I ‘hear’ … revert to the original image, look closely at it there’s something ELSE to see. Outta the blue. Completely normal for me by the way, I get this all the time.

Anyways I look again at the image. There is a mirror that allows the person inside the office, accessed by the lobby door on my left as I took the photo, to look out and see what is happening at the counter. When I took the picture the postmaster had just come back inside and entered the door on my left with a broom in his hand. I snapped the image. And… what I want to know from other Avalonians is… who exactly do you think is sitting at the postmaster’s desk when the postmaster entered the door with the broom in his hand, per the reversed fish eye mirror image in this photo, when zoomed in?54207

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Hello Artemesia,

I don’t think your post is entirely unrelated to this thread, or maybe we need a new one ‘current phenomena’…

I am now certain there is ET activity going on and the drones are a separate man made spectacle, so to your picture, are you saying the person in the white cap at the desk was not there to the naked eye? You say this happens to you all the time, is that unexpected figures in photos?

[WhiteFeather]

I'm not sure if this was posted to this thread yet if so, mods can remove it. Another credible person I resonate with as a UFOlogist in the ET Spectrum Richard Dolan.
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[Phoenix1304]

I wrote this article for my website back in 2014, it may have more relevance today than it did back then. I believe the drones are tied into the much larger UFO/UAP issue. I am fortunate that this article survived because the website was taken down and the name sold off without my knowledge or approval.


UFOs Have Been Visiting Earth For a Long Time, Why?
While many acknowledge the presence of extraterrestrials in our world they are at a complete loss to explain why they are here. As with most things in life, the explanation is fairly straightforward and not that difficult to comprehend. Understanding the primary motive of extraterrestrial visits will help explain the UFO phenomenon.

Most people believe that extraterrestrials are visiting Earth to monitor the progress and behavior of humanity. To a certain extent that might be true, but it is much more likely that they are periodically coming here to examine the health of Planet Earth. After all, even our scientists are beginning to come around to the idea that Planet Earth is a living sentient being. In the greater cosmos, human and extraterrestrial life may be fairly common. On the other hand, what little we know about other planets, and the universe at large, indicates that our home planet is an extremely desirable and rare occurrence within the cosmos.

People have wondered for a long time why ET has not made their presence known. If we are not the primary reason why they are here, why would they disclose their existence? The survival of mankind is probably very far down their list of priorities. For that matter, the survival of humanity may not even be on their list of priorities. Have you ever stopped to consider that Planet Earth would have more value to an alien race if there were no humans inhabiting the planet?

Everything we need to sustain life has been provided for us on Planet Earth. We are blessed with an abundance of water, sunshine, breathable air, enough land and food to house and feed 7 billion people. We share Earth with millions of species of plant, animal and insect life, each playing an important role in the ecosystem, that in itself is remarkable. It makes our planet an astonishing place, a very rare and unusual gem among the stars.

Those who follow UFOs closely know the largest wave of UFO sightings in modern times coincided with the discovery of splitting the atom and the use of Atomic Energy during WWII. In other words, when we discovered how to manipulate nuclear energy we triggered an unprecedented wave of UFO sightings.

There are well-documented cases of UFOs hovering over nuclear military facilities in both the United States and Russia. Reliable witnesses state that the craft were tampering with the nuclear armament control systems. This behavior by UFOs and their occupants was not an accident and it was clearly a message to humanity.

Many people 'want' to believe that if things get out of control and WWIII gets under way our extraterrestrial brethren will step in and save humanity, nothing could be further from the truth. ET may step in and save Planet Earth, but they will have little time and no admiration for a species that never understood how good they had it in the first place.

There is little doubt that Earth's oceans, forests and species of plants and animals are worth saving. The living, breathing, self-regulating sentient being that we are living on is at the core of their mission.

UFOs have a long and documented history of appearing just after natural or man-made catastrophic events. There is not much question that they are keeping their eye on the prize we call Earth.

fzvwBBSmWYA

I read a book many years ago called the Only Planet of Choice, I think it was, I only remember one line from it ‘the earth is a prime piece of real estate in this corner of the Universe’. Something like that. Sure it’s been fought over, colonised and humans are disgraceful stewards of it, if indeed they are. Suppose the actual stewards are Draconians whose mindset is manifest in the rape and pillage of the planet and humans who are just their pathetic manipulated pawns. Suppose there are highly advanced species of ET that actually do care about saving these humans and all sentient beings on this beautiful planet, as we care about preserving the last of the blue whales or snow leopards.

I don’t think I can really know how highly advanced beings might think, but I imagine that Love is one of the great universal forces of energy we barely understand. I like to think it’s a driving force for the highest cosmic consciousness. Am I being naive?

[Artemesia]

Hello Artemesia,

I don’t think your post is entirely unrelated to this thread, or maybe we need a new one ‘current phenomena’…

I am now certain there is ET activity going on and the drones are a separate man made spectacle, so to your picture, are you saying the person in the white cap at the desk was not there to the naked eye? You say this happens to you all the time, is that unexpected figures in photos?

Well so, technically I could not actually see the desk or the side office at all that appears in the mirror, because it was off to the side and a wall was there, hence the need for the postmaster to have a mirror placed so he could watch the front counter from the desk in the office. So I never saw ANY of what the mirror ‘captured’ in this photo myself.

To clarify, a few things happen to me often. One, that I will HEAR a statement that I need to go back and review something, this might be a photo or it might be a location (usually out in the forest areas I regularly visit, or sometimes just my garden, or places in the local community). Generally when I do that I will notice something significant, there will be an interesting sign from nature or sighting of some kind, or something ‘interesting’ will happen. The thing with photos has happened before, usually I will see some kind of anomaly or secondary image in it if I zoom in, which I did not notice before or have ANY idea was even there at the time of the event, but I ALWAYS know that the event itself was significant, just not ‘why’. But I have known I have been having paranormal experiences since about age 7 when I ‘put it together’ that other people didnt experience these things or at least recognize them as significant the way I did. As I have slowly put together my memories of use in the mind control projects, some of these memories which never really were disappeared were useful places to ‘go looking’ for clues as to what had been happening to me all these years.

But yeah, I agree that the E.T. Contact experiences are on a profound increase.

To me what is more noticeable than actual encounters with individual or groups of beings, is the profound DIMENSIONAL STACKING that is occuring. This is when it is very palpable and evidenced by phenomena happening in the 3D scenes of events around me, wherever I am in the landscape when these moments occur in the time field/quantic field, that there is MoRE THAN ONE dimension interfacing simultaneously. Its a bit hard to explain but if you have lived it beleive me, its unforgettable. Notice one’s body awareness, little tics or itches or what feels like muscle twitches, or pains, and if beings with more profound psy abilities are around you will notice the way your mind floats or slides between ideas is more fluid. They seem to like word play and also using lines from books or movies, media etc that is readily accessible to view (for them, and of course for us over the years have been a part of our cultural experience/enculturation and entrainment by hollywood media). So watch for that combination of feeling like more than one scene or scenario or set of events are stacked or are sliding past one another in a very delicate and intricate play of steps and events, combined with strange bodily sensations and the way your mind may be moving in ideas or thought patterns with quotes or well known film phrases all at the same time. Its a good indicator that contact is happening. Dont fear it, but pay attention and be aware that micro-sized changes or gestures or offerings and interactions in that field of awareness/quantic field can be VERY potent so move softly and gently and slide skillfully between those dimensions.

Here is a post

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121578-Who-has-seen-AND-photographed-a-UFO&p=1569514&viewfull=1#post1569514


from another thread that shows another example of what I mean by other beings appearing in photos I have taken that I only realize much later (in this case over 10 years later!!) see the post a few above this one for a more zoomed out version and some other anomalous photos… its from the ‘Who has Seen and Photographed a UFO thread’

[Richter]

China's So-Called Sixth-Generation Fighter Jet Makes Maiden Flight, But It’s Still Ridiculed (18:35)
On the afternoon of December 26, 2024, two "giants" appeared in the sky over Chengdu: one was the debut of the twin-seat J-20S, and the other was an oversized triangular flying wing aircraft. The triangular design resembled a J-20 with its canards removed, forming a large integrated flying wing at the rear. While some have speculated that this marks the maiden flight of China's sixth-generation fighter jet, such claims appear to be exaggerated.

Start at 10:00 to see the U.S. drone part...
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[grapevine]

🔴 BREAKING NEWS! WHAT THE DRONES REALLY ARE! Dr. Steven Greer FULL DISCLOSURE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXSJmtOUGJM&ab_channel=MichaelSandler%27sInspireNation (1:31:38)
I'm 31 minutes in and Steven Greer is repeating what he said in earlier videos but with more clarity. He's talking disclosure, but not the disclosure we're all expecting. This is purely about Black Ops and their intentions. A group of whistleblowers who are behind the "drones" will be coming forward very soon in the New Year. Steven Greer has prepared presentations/hand-outs for all world governments which lays out all that is in the video but, he says, the outcome will be dependent upon our leaders' reaction to this information. I feel if enough of the public is made aware of the situation the leaders won't have an opportuity to cover it up for their own advantage. Personally, I think Steven Greer and his whistleblowers have no idea of the lengths our leaders will go to keep us in the dark and under their control.

Just to add, Greer talks about psionic abilities (esp) which relates directly to another recent video by Ross Coulthart, where he talks about experiments with children and psionics (I took to mean communicating directly with the craft)

PS:
Steven Greer's website has 35 years worth of information on it. Can I ask whether anyone here on the forum has searched it and can recommend which areas to research?

https://drstevengreer.com/dpia/

[TrumanCash]

The Dark Journalist, Daniel Liszt, said that there were "missing time" incidents reported in relation to the New Jersey drone sightings on Alex Jones recently. Has anyone else here seen or heard of reports of "missing time" in relation to drones from any other source?

Of course that could be disinformation from the CIA or other "intelligence" source, which I would suspect it to be. But it is curious.

Of course, as I stated in my books nearly thirty years ago that "missing time" is a misnomer. Abductees are not missing "time"--they are missing memory.

However, in all my many experiences with being abducted I've never seen an alien ship that looked like a modern human-made drone with propellers, which would be rather absurd, IMO, since I've only seen alien craft that looked like typical "flying saucers", which actually don't "fly" in the usual definition of the word.

There was one exception to that when I was abducted into a different looking craft that took me to a huge Grays mothership. The abducting craft in that particular abduction was very small and it had long landing gear that held it about eight to ten feet off the ground and I had to climb a ladder to get into it. It had a window in it where I could see the huge mothership. It reminded me more of the shape of the US-made space capsule that landed on the moon (allegedly).

My wife said she saw the imprints of the landing gear in the grass outside our home the next day after seeing the craft the night before. I covered this abduction in my second book, THE EYE OF RA, when I was shown my hybrid children on the mothership.

A friend just sent me videos that he took of three drones in the Las Vegas area that looked like the New Jersey drones. I'm waiting for more information about them from him.

I once saw what I think was a drone about eighteen years ago. It was daytime and I was driving my van with my son in the passenger seat. I saw a small, shiny metallic disk-shaped object zip across the sky at a low altitude and disappear into some low altitude clouds. I asked my son "Did you see that!?" He said "Yes!"

It did not look like modern drones with propellers but it was too small to be a typical Grays ship (unless there were tiny aliens inside). However, I was more inclined to think it was a military drone that looked like a typical "flying saucer". Both my son and I were abductees during that time period. In spite that I still thought it was not alien even though I had been abducted into a Deep Underground Military Base in north central Washington State where I witnessed Grays working with military people in 1994.

I have no doubt that the US military has back-engineered alien craft that look and maneuver like actual alien-made craft.

For those who have not read about my D.U.M.B. experience, you can read about it here on Avalon: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113494-My-underground-base-experience&p=1400388&viewfull=1#post1400388

I have received more details about the videos my friend from Las Vegas sent to me which he described as "drones" and "UFOs". When I think of drones I think of flying machines with propellers that make sound as they fly. What my friend saw was not that.

My friend is a snowbird who lives in the Las Vegas suburbs in winter and near the Canadian border in summer. He has seen unidentified objects in the sky both in Vegas and up north. He has also seen unidentified aerial objects when drives through the desert near Area 51.

I tried to attach the videos he sent me from his cell phone but it appears that I can only attach pictures, not videos. I don't know how to attach these cell phones videos or if there is a way to do so.

While he was observing and video-recording three identical, big colored objects high in the sky above Vegas in early morning of December 27th an "orb" the size of a basketball flew about ten feet right in front of him:

Here is his description of what he saw:

"....no sound and the orb that came in front of me was the size of a basket ball and looked smokey ..the big ufos above me looked like a small sun and was pulsating different colors … mainly orange to white and green … those were not close but up in the sky above the house … been looking overnight since and have not seen them."

When I first heard about the "drones" over New Jersey I just thought it was the human-made propeller-driven drones. But now I get the spooky feeling we're getting close to or at the beginning of the "alien invasion false flag" that was allegedly reported by Werner von Braun to Carol Rosin in the mid-70s.

Since I experienced tall and short Grays working side by side with US military personnel in a D.U.M.B in north central Washington State in 1994, I think that the purported "false flag" may be orchestrated by both the US military and ETs. I don't know this for certain and being a truth seeker, researcher and experiencer I always keep an open mind about such things.

Because I was threatened in the D.U.M.B. to keep my mouth shut, so to speak, and because I've been reporting my underground military/Grays experience for the past thirty years, I was targeted and am still recovering from that. So I try to fly low under the radar as possible and do not publicly identify myself. (Although Bill Ryan knows me.) I also knew Phil Schneider so I know that the military and "intelligence" agencies take this subject very seriously when you expose the military cahooting with ETs.

Again, here is my underground base experience: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113494-My-underground-base-experience&p=1400388&viewfull=1#post1400388

[Casey Claar]

JJRiBl-kyFE

Another ( /the next ) new phenomena sweeping the globe -- mysterious fog.

This may be a thread subject of its own, but some people are asking, wondering, if the fog is to help hide the drone activity.

I am in Southern California, the fog has been here for multiple days and today it never burned off, the way fog/the marine layer generally does by 9-10am. I didn't realize it was sweeping the country until my mom texted me and brought it to my attention, asking if I had any information on this. The videos out there are pretty crazy, with some people reporting a chemical smell, and others reporting becoming sick. Just noting this here for everyone for the moment. I will begin looking more into the matter, and reporting what is happening here.

[Bluegreen]

Unusual and remarkable 'pea soup' fog around Lake Michigan last few days.

[DNA]

JJRiBl-kyFE

Another ( /the next ) new phenomena sweeping the globe -- mysterious fog.

This may be a thread subject of its own, but some people are asking, wondering, if the fog is to help hide the drone activity.

I am in Southern California, the fog has been here for multiple days and today it never burned off, the way fog/the marine layer generally does by 9-10am. I didn't realize it was sweeping the country until my mom texted me and brought it to my attention, asking if I had any information on this. The videos out there are pretty crazy, with some people reporting a chemical smell, and others reporting becoming sick. Just noting this here for everyone for the moment. I will begin looking more into the matter, and reporting what is happening here.

I've already been wondering to myself if the drones weren't some kind of delivery system for a sickness. And then hearing of these fog outbreaks reminds me of William Bramley's book, where robed figures are seen emitting green gasses from scythe like tools...

It's been insanely foggy in my area and those drones have been seen in these parts. There are also folks suffering from coughs that just won't go away.

It's weird

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Something for consideration, maybe, shared by Chris Martenson on X (https://x.com/chrismartenson/status/1873050899880526268). Although I'm not convinced these multiple sightings are being created this way, it appears doable, to create something similar very cheaply, as per:

1873050899880526268

Wow thats awesome

[Tintin]

JJRiBl-kyFE

Another ( /the next ) new phenomena sweeping the globe -- mysterious fog.

This may be a thread subject of its own, but some people are asking, wondering, if the fog is to help hide the drone activity.

I am in Southern California, the fog has been here for multiple days and today it never burned off, the way fog/the marine layer generally does by 9-10am. I didn't realize it was sweeping the country until my mom texted me and brought it to my attention, asking if I had any information on this. The videos out there are pretty crazy, with some people reporting a chemical smell, and others reporting becoming sick. Just noting this here for everyone for the moment. I will begin looking more into the matter, and reporting what is happening here.

We had fog over England as well for nearly a week Casey, over the Christmas period. I think the whole country was covered in it although I didn't detect any chemical smell. I was travelling as well at that time so it definitely wasn't just confined to a particular area; the football (soccer) highlights programmes also provided some evidence of that, and up to this point at least I didn't notice anyone becoming unusually unwell.

[Tintin]

JJRiBl-kyFE

Another ( /the next ) new phenomena sweeping the globe -- mysterious fog.

This may be a thread subject of its own, but some people are asking, wondering, if the fog is to help hide the drone activity.

I am in Southern California, the fog has been here for multiple days and today it never burned off, the way fog/the marine layer generally does by 9-10am. I didn't realize it was sweeping the country until my mom texted me and brought it to my attention, asking if I had any information on this. The videos out there are pretty crazy, with some people reporting a chemical smell, and others reporting becoming sick. Just noting this here for everyone for the moment. I will begin looking more into the matter, and reporting what is happening here.

We had fog over England as well for nearly a week Casey, over the Christmas period. I think the whole country was covered in it although I didn't detect any chemical smell. I was travelling as well at that time so it definitely wasn't just confined to a particular area; the football (soccer) highlights programmes also provided some evidence of that, and up to this point at least I didn't notice anyone becoming unusually unwell.

Perhaps we do need a specific thread for this phenomenon after all.

I'm just scrolling through this interesting thread on X (https://x.com/ni_skies/status/1874028512509911066) right now:

1874028512509911066

[Ratszinger]

The fog is fake and it's being proven as big chunks of 'cloud' with a chemical man made smell is falling from the sky so whatever they used is failing to hold up in some climates and showing their hand.
Regardless some of the replies here are surprising These are man made and the military is testing all the manufacturers of drones that is why there are so many and they are so varied for looks. There are silent helicopters and silent drones by the way. The tech has been out and there are cloak devices being tested and probably all manner of other things we haven't seen including but not limited to his fake fog they can throw up and use as a cover do their dirty deeds unseen. This is all to keep us from seeing what is going on in our skies and we are at least 50 if not more years ahead of anything we know about in the civililian market so I would suggest giving up on the aliens idea. These are all from right here. The didn't fly across the galaxy for the last several thousand years just to cross the milky way and show up here now using propellers. And I know what you are going to say there are also orbs and my response is BS you are seeing drones then too. Bright lights and out of focus cameras equate to an orb every time. I can do that with my camera with any plane for crying out loud. The miiitary wants these and in the end they'll pick a couple that do the best in the performance tests and next war that is the ones that they will deploy against an enemy.
If nothing else they have sure proven that they can get you guys convinced of an alien invasion using propeller technology. Please stop embarrassing yourselves. It's man made drones not UFOS. And I don't believe there are any aliens there is life here so whatever really exists out there that is ahead of us is from right here just like us. The data that we have available concludes all of these are military intelligence drones DARPA authorized defense projects and the gov. obviously thought it was time for a serious upgrade.

[Did You See Them]

I do believe that some of the orb sightings are the real deal - probably because more people where looking than usual just to catch a sight of these drones making the news.

[John Hilton]

Phoenix posted:
Now to add further mystery, someone might be able to explain, is that when I looked, there were only two shots on the camera and I simply cannot fathom the second one (which is marked as taken a minute after the first). It is a shot of a starry night yet the cloud cover was solid and it never looked that way to the naked eye for a moment. Could the camera have readjusted somehow and seen through all that fog? If you zoom in on it, you can see two sets of two lights and possibly part of a constellation. How can this be?

As an electronics engineer, I have had to test many remote control handsets. The simplest test is to point the handset towards a camera lens and press a button. A human can't see the flashing of the infra-red LED but a camera sees it (and displays it) as white. Try it!

As a consequence of the fact that most cameras "see" infra-red, any photo taken will include part of the infra-red spectrum - the nearest infra-red to visible. Maybe some cameras even "see" deep infra-red (heat). Maybe that would appear as a white glow around a hot object.

I haven't personally experimented with this but you might like to. It might explain why a camera sees things that you don't.

[Blastolabs]

. There are silent helicopters and silent drones by the way. The tech has been out and there are cloak devices being tested and probably all manner of other things we haven't seen including but not limited to his fake fog they can throw up and use as a cover do their dirty deeds unseen. This is all to keep us from seeing what is going on in our skies and we are at least 50 if not more years ahead of anything we know about in the civililian market

"Silent helicopter" technology claims to provide (https://www.zdnet.com/article/silent-rotor-blades-could-lead-to-true-stealth-helicopters/)3-4 db reduction in sound pressure. https://i0.wp.com/simplehomecinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/dc-scale3.png
Lets assume that in reality they can reduce the sound pressure 5x more than claimed.
That would still be louder than any car and louder than your home stereo system (unless you went to raves in the 1990's)

I've seen hundreds of UFO in the sky over the past 10 years that are clearly far more than 50 years more advanced than unclassified human technology. A craft that can make 90 degree turns at high speeds must have some sort of inertial reduction technology ("antigravity").
Ignoring my personal experience, what about the hundreds of whistleblowers who have seen this technology in classified projects? See Stephen Greer's new database (https://www.dpiarchive.com/) ( he claims to have spent $0.5 million on this thing?!) Are they all lying?

[Satori]

. There are silent helicopters and silent drones by the way. The tech has been out and there are cloak devices being tested and probably all manner of other things we haven't seen including but not limited to his fake fog they can throw up and use as a cover do their dirty deeds unseen. This is all to keep us from seeing what is going on in our skies and we are at least 50 if not more years ahead of anything we know about in the civililian market

"Silent helicopter" technology claims to provide (https://www.zdnet.com/article/silent-rotor-blades-could-lead-to-true-stealth-helicopters/)3-4 db reduction in sound pressure. https://i0.wp.com/simplehomecinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/dc-scale3.png
Lets assume that in reality they can reduce the sound pressure 5x more than claimed.
That would still be louder than any car and louder than your home stereo system (unless you went to raves in the 1990's)

I've seen hundreds of UFO in the sky over the past 10 years that are clearly far more than 50 years more advanced than unclassified human technology. A craft that can make 90 degree turns at high speeds must have some sort of inertial reduction technology ("antigravity").
Ignoring my personal experience, what about the hundreds of whistleblowers who have seen this technology in classified projects? See Stephen Greer's new database (https://www.dpiarchive.com/) ( he claims to have spent $0.5 million on this thing?!) Are they all lying?

This data neglects to account for the distance between the transmitter, i. e., the source of the sound, and the receiver, i.e., (in this case) the human ear. The distance factor affects and effects the apparent volume of the sound.

[Blastolabs]

Not sure where to put this, but this is allegedly written by the guy who was found dead in the Tesla CyberTruck.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgZOi6OXEAEDkM9?format=jpg&name=900x900
source https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1875272661057913280

edit: Wow must watch, sounds like the guy found in the Tesla started whistleblowing about on the 31st
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[Moemers]

dollars to donuts Shawn Ryan served at Fort Bragg.

dropping this on his doorstep is very fishy and now we have attacks or the threat of them via various propaganda from every major country or org the US is looking down the barrel of war with?

that lines up pretty nicely, huh?

[TrumanCash]

The Gateway Pundit just posted this story with the text of Livelsberger's alleged email: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/report-retired-intelligence-officer-sam-shoemate-received-email/

Below is the email purportedly sent by Livelsberger from a ProtonMail account (dabergmlb@protonmail.com) on December 31, 2024:

“In case I do not make it to my decision point or on to the Mexico border I am sending this now. Please do not release this until 1JAN and keep my identity private until then.

First off I am not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was a 2006 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification.

What we have been seeing with “drones” is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast, but throughout history, the US. Only we and China have this capability. Our OPEN location for this activity in the box is below.

China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they used the balloon for sigint and isr, which are also part of the integrated comms system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time.

The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC, they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the WH if they wanted. It’s checkmate.

US needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the east coast

I’ve been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI, and they are looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won’t because they know i am armed and I have a massive VBIED.

I’ve been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me. I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in Nimruz province Afghanistan in 2019 by the admin, DoD, DEA and CIA.

I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings (65 were struck because of CIVCAS) that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. USFORA continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR, it was supposed to take 6 minutes and scramble all aircraft in CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes, but the administration made them disappear.

I was part of that cover-up with USFORA and Agent [redacted] of the DEA. So I don’t know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with GEN Millers 10 staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murghab. AOB-S Commander at the time [redacted] can validate this.

You need to elevate this to the media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation. For vetting my Linkedin is Matt Berg or Matthew Livelsberger, an active duty 18Z out of 1-10 my profile is public. I have an active TSSCI with UAP USAP access.” https://x.com/ShawnRyan762/status/18...635341/photo/1

Full story at The Gateway Pundit, link at top of post.

After being abducted into a deep underground military/Gray base thirty years ago, I have no doubt that the secret US military/corporate government has "gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft".

[Blastolabs]

"gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft" often called electro-gravitics
https://ia601507.us.archive.org/6/items/thomas-valone-electrogravitics-systems/Thomas%20Valone%20-%20Electrogravitics%20Systems_text.pdf

[SilentFeathers]

The Gateway Pundit just posted this story with the text of Livelsberger's alleged email: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/report-retired-intelligence-officer-sam-shoemate-received-email/

Below is the email purportedly sent by Livelsberger from a ProtonMail account (dabergmlb@protonmail.com) on December 31, 2024:

“In case I do not make it to my decision point or on to the Mexico border I am sending this now. Please do not release this until 1JAN and keep my identity private until then.

First off I am not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was a 2006 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification.

What we have been seeing with “drones” is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast, but throughout history, the US. Only we and China have this capability. Our OPEN location for this activity in the box is below.

China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they used the balloon for sigint and isr, which are also part of the integrated comms system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time.

The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC, they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the WH if they wanted. It’s checkmate.

US needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the east coast

I’ve been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI, and they are looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won’t because they know i am armed and I have a massive VBIED.

I’ve been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me. I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in Nimruz province Afghanistan in 2019 by the admin, DoD, DEA and CIA.

I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings (65 were struck because of CIVCAS) that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. USFORA continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR, it was supposed to take 6 minutes and scramble all aircraft in CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes, but the administration made them disappear.

I was part of that cover-up with USFORA and Agent [redacted] of the DEA. So I don’t know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with GEN Millers 10 staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murghab. AOB-S Commander at the time [redacted] can validate this.

You need to elevate this to the media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation. For vetting my Linkedin is Matt Berg or Matthew Livelsberger, an active duty 18Z out of 1-10 my profile is public. I have an active TSSCI with UAP USAP access.” https://x.com/ShawnRyan762/status/18...635341/photo/1

Full story at The Gateway Pundit, link at top of post.

After being abducted into a deep underground military/Gray base thirty years ago, I have no doubt that the secret US military/corporate government has "gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft".

If most of these drones are if fact Chinese, well, that is quite troubling to say the least. It's been rather obvious the Chinese have been paying the Bidens (and many others) for some years now....paying them for what?

If these drones are weapons and actually have the ability to cloak during the daytime, they may actually be doing a "checkmate" move on the US. China may be preparing to make a major move on Taiwan before Trump gets in office. This would be quite serious as Taiwan does almost all the worlds semiconductor production. China would basically control most of the worlds economy if they just quickly took over Taiwan.

These drones may be putting the US in a stand down position.

I'm just speculating, but, we are in WW3 in my opinion, it is just not an all out slaughter yet.

[onawah]

Dark Journalist's current episode starts off with the topic being the current drone phenomena as a psyop and false flag event, which could be used to create the switch to COG (Continuation of Government) and which could mean a military takeover of the US government.
Also how that could be connected to the recent explosions and shootings.
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Also, DJ is referencing the related whistleblower info from recent Shawn Ryan podcasts, and connecting those dots:
https://www.youtube.com/@ShawnRyanShow

[s7e6e]

If the truck explosion moment is CGI, then the email must be BS is well. The motive? Pushing the idea the US has insane military tech and also seeding division between Russia and China.

When you have anti-gravitic propulsion, would you still use balloons? Sure, for distraction.
When you have internet broadcasting satellites, would you still use internet broadcasting balloons?

[John Hilton]

Another discussion about the Tesla explosion:

A Green Beret Used A Tesla To Expose Government Secrets Today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjfIdNt8bmA

Or skip to the discussion about antigravity craft:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjfIdNt8bmA&t=27m30s

[TrumanCash]

To add to the mix, Matthew Livelsberger specifically stated "gravitic propulsion", not "anti-gravitic propulsion". This is a point that most people do not understand. The ET technology is not "anti-gravity". If anything it is "pro-gravity" in that their craft generates its own gravitic field. Therefore, the terms "flying saucers" or "Unidentified Flying Objects", aka, "UFOs", are not accurate terms because they do not "fly" in Earthling terms.

In other words if the floor of their craft were perpendicular to the ground on Earth or at a 45 degree angle to the Earth, which they sometimes are, the occupants inside would not fall to the side of the craft closest to the ground due to Earth's gravity. I've always felt like I was on a level floor in an ET craft.

I know this firsthand due to having been abducted aboard so many different ET craft so many times. Not only do these craft create their own gravity field, they can also alter space. Some abductees (including myself) and other firsthand experiencers have noticed that the inside of their craft is bigger than the outside. Weird, eh? It also appears that their technology can allow them to travel through time as well. Of course, from our dumbed-down version of physics this would be perceived as a paradox.

I would also say that "propulsion" is not an applicable term for this kind of technology. Modern rockets, jets and fireworks use propulsion but that does not apply to ET craft. However, I can understand why someone like Matthew Livelsberger would use the term simply because it's difficult for uninformed people to understand the technology. For the same reason I still use the term "flying saucer" or "UFO" sometimes because that's what most people understand.

If you research an electronic device called a caduceus coil it can (allegedly) levitate and create a time shift depending upon the microwave frequency pulsed through it. I had a scientist friend who worked for a government (space-related) contractor and he was building a caduceus coil by taking parts from a microwave oven.

A caduceus coil works on the principle of combining two opposing forces which creates a tertiary effect or multiple effects. It is what the Hegelian dialectic is based upon in quite a different application and it is symbolized by and derived from the Anunnaki symbol of Thoth, Quetzalcoatl, Hermes, Mercury and many other names. The caduceus is sometimes represented with wings since prior civilizations on Earth also thought they were "flying" like birds.

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CADUCEUS COIL: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/caduceus3.htm

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Since I have seen and experienced US-made, back-engineered ET technology in a D.U.M.B. thirty years ago and since I worked with another abductee that was also abducted into a US military/Grays underground base in 1971 and also witnessed ET technology, I have no doubt that the US military would have silent gravitic drones developed from back-engineered ET technology.

If the writings that I've read so far attributed to Matthew Livelsberger are genuine and if he was indeed a genuine whistleblower, I would say that it appears credible and understandable to me. However, I have absolutely no knowledge of the military acronyms he used or of his military experience.

Setting off his fireworks display in a Tesla outside a Trump hotel in Vegas seems logical if he were wanting to get Trump's and Elon's attention. After all, Musk seems stuck in out-of-date rocketry instead of ET technology. But maybe he knows a lot more than he is saying.

[norman]

Another discussion about the Tesla explosion:

A Green Beret Used A Tesla To Expose Government Secrets Today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjfIdNt8bmA

Or skip to the discussion about antigravity craft:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjfIdNt8bmA&t=27m30s

Here's the interview with Shawn Ryan.

Shawn Ryan: Vegas Cyber Truck Bomber "Manifesto"

https://rumble.com/v65s3a4-shawn-ryan-vegas-cyber-truck-bomber-manifesto.html?e9s=src_v1_upp

v63jo9a/?pub=1yatds

[Moemers]

https://x.com/ryanmcbeth/status/1875340720091099139?s=42

that Shawn Ryan interview and the "Manifesto" is bull**** according to this guy. Which I'm inclined to agree with.

Also, Shawn Ryan's father and uncle were both special forces instructors on Fort Bragg, so...

[RunningDeer]

Another discussion about the Tesla explosion:

A Green Beret Used A Tesla To Expose Government Secrets Today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjfIdNt8bmA

Or skip to the discussion about antigravity craft:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjfIdNt8bmA&t=27m30s

Here's the interview with Shawn Ryan.

Shawn Ryan: Vegas Cyber Truck Bomber "Manifesto"

https://rumble.com/v65s3a4-shawn-ryan-vegas-cyber-truck-bomber-manifesto.html?e9s=src_v1_upp


xglaXVtQcis


2,659,703 YouTube views
Jan 3, 2025
Shawn Ryan Show Podcast (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pqo9Uoh0WuUKxw0BmaK1yrg9Kd7E4lk)

Sam Shoemate is an intelligence officer and Chief Warrant Officer 2 (US Army, Retired). On December 31st, Sam received an email allegedly from Matthew Livelsberger - who would be named as the perpetrator in the detonation of a Tesla Cybertruck at Trump Tower the following day. In this episode of the Shawn Ryan Show, Shoemate brings forward critical information and allegations that cast doubt on the “mainstream” narratives surrounding this event - and many others - if true.



00:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=0s) Introduction and Gifts

05:26 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=326s) The Shocking Email

09:49 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=589s) The Manifesto

15:10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=910s) Unveiling the Gravitic Propulsion System

20:17 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=1217s) Connecting the Dots

28:25 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=1705s) FBI and CID Involvement

35:28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=2128s) Tesla Incident Theory

40:18 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=2418s) Drone and UAP Concerns

52:32 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=3152s) Iranian Missiles and Border Security

58:43 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglaXVtQcis&t=3523s) Call to Action for Community Safety

[Bill Ryan]

https://x.com/ryanmcbeth/status/1875340720091099139?s=42

that Shawn Ryan interview and the "Manifesto" is bull**** according to this guy. Which I'm inclined to agree with.

Also, Shawn Ryan's father and uncle were both special forces instructors on Fort Bragg, so...I have to step in here. (Do forgive me! :))

Ryan McBeth's Twitter/X account (https://x.com/RyanMcbeth) is full of anti-Russia, pro-Israel, anti-Tucker-Carlson, anti-'Conspiracy-Theory' posts. And check out his YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@RyanMcBethProgramming/videos), too; I took a good close look at both. It's clear what his political and ideological stance is, and how little he actually really seems to know about most things.

But that doesn't mean that the manifesto (which may be real) contains accurate information about the 'drones' being Chinese. My understanding is that is not the case — and there are pretty strong common-sense geopolitical arguments why that wouldn't be the case as well.

[Moemers]

i'd 1000 times rather have people step in with info like that then have a million posts with just a spread of useless/superfluous info. thanks. i post stuff here hoping for just what you did BR. wide discussion and sorting through all this.

[norman]

My big takeaway from the Shawn Ryan interview is that the Tesla truck was capable of driving itself to the Trump hotel entrance with a dead body in the driving seat.

According to a military source who spoke to Shawn's lawyer, the DNA of the body didn't match his son's DNA.

That's probably nothing to do with the topic of this thread, but just saying.

[rgray222]

https://x.com/ryanmcbeth/status/1875340720091099139?s=42

that Shawn Ryan interview and the "Manifesto" is bull**** according to this guy. Which I'm inclined to agree with.

Also, Shawn Ryan's father and uncle were both special forces instructors on Fort Bragg, so...

I am not intimately familiar with Ryan McBeth but what I have seen of him leads me to believe that he is just another talking head that wants to keep the world at war. He is saying that if the United States stops supporting Ukraine it will lead to a hot war with China. He has even forecasted that the USA will be at war with China in two to three years.

Anyone who advocates for war without putting diplomacy on the table is extremely suspect of being in the pockets of government contractors such as Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, Raytheon Technologies and the big pharma companies who support war for obvious reasons. These government contracts were literally and figuratively rolling in money for the twenty years+ that they kept the American government at war in Afghanistan. Once that war ended they determined that the good times could roll on by intimidating Russia with NATO. Mission accomplished, so far the USA has poured so much money into these contractors by way of Ukraine that it makes WWI and WWII seem like child's play.

Anytime you see someone campaigning for war without even discussing peace the red flags should be hoisted all over the place.

[SilentFeathers]

I tend to think Shawn Ryan is quite careful as to what info he is willing to share with others. He's not immune to making mistakes but he seems quite sure this is reliable and truthful information.

Here's a fresh video with Larry Johnson about this drone stuff and some other things. he makes a few interesting points.

Was There Someone BIG Behind The Las Vegas Cybertruck Attack?
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[Mike]

I tend to think Shawn Ryan is quite careful as to what info he is willing to share with others. He's not immune to making mistakes but he seems quite sure this is reliable and truthful information.

Here's a fresh video with Larry Johnson about this drone stuff and some other things. he makes a few interesting points.

Was There Someone BIG Behind The Las Vegas Cybertruck Attack?
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I agree - I think Shawn Ryan is quite careful and also a deeply honorable man. He would never recklessly spread poorly vetted info. On the flip side, I think Shawn is often way out over his skis with some of this "conspiracy" stuff. Not because he's unintelligent, just because he's relatively new to it all. So I usually watch him with this in mind.

As far as anti-grav or "gravitic" (gravitic? is that a word?:)): I still haven't seen a single video where these "drones" defy gravity in any way. I haven't seen any of those otherworldly 90 degree turns at high speeds and so forth. It looks like an impressive show at times, but not otherworldly.

I remain pretty confident that there is an alien technology at play in these sightings (whether it's actual aliens or reverse engineered ET tech, I dunno), but it's the plasma orbs that lead me to believe this, not the drones. Greer claims even the orbs are mostly ours, but who the hell knows?

[TrumanCash]

In case anyone is interested Alex Jones is presently doing a Saturday broadcast to cover the Livelsberger Las Vegas event, etc, and is giving his viewpoint on it. He said he's talked with friends of Livelsberger and they said Livelsberger wouldn't have done this. He also said that the Livelsberger event was "100% a set up".

Anyway, we'll see how this story develops and we can try separate fact from fiction (if possible). I am hoping that this will at least result in the truth coming out that the secret government has back-engineered the technology for gravitic craft and other technologies from ETs. So if there is indeed a false flag alien invasion the public can see it as a deception. Of course, such a false flag would be a deception because the US government already made an agreement with ETs and have been working side by side with ETs for decades, so it never was an "invasion" per se.

[SilentFeathers]

I tend to think Shawn Ryan is quite careful as to what info he is willing to share with others. He's not immune to making mistakes but he seems quite sure this is reliable and truthful information.

Here's a fresh video with Larry Johnson about this drone stuff and some other things. he makes a few interesting points.

Was There Someone BIG Behind The Las Vegas Cybertruck Attack?
E20BCsHCCjE


I agree - I think Shawn Ryan is quite careful and also a deeply honorable man. He would never recklessly spread poorly vetted info. On the flip side, I think Shawn is often way out over his skis with some of this "conspiracy" stuff. Not because he's unintelligent, just because he's relatively new to it all. So I usually watch him with this in mind.

As far as anti-grav or "gravitic" (gravitic? is that a word?:)): I still haven't seen a single video where these "drones" defy gravity in any way. I haven't seen any of those otherworldly 90 degree turns at high speeds and so forth. It looks like an impressive show at times, but not otherworldly.

I remain pretty confident that there is an alien technology at play in these sightings (whether it's actual aliens or reverse engineered ET tech, I dunno), but it's the plasma orbs that lead me to believe this, not the drones. Greer claims even the orbs are mostly ours, but who the hell knows?

The post Blastolabs posted with the PDF (post #446) has a bunch in it about gravitics (electrogravitics). It's from 1993, mostly documents stuff from the 1950's. This technology could be "hyper-advanced" by now though.

I wouldn't be surprised if Shawn Ryan is soon targeted and shut down. He touches on subjects that picks a lot of scabs that irritate the elites and digs in to the establishments file cabinets so to speak. They'll likely be going after him soon and do their best to make his life miserable to say the least.

Personally, I don't think these drones are Chinese, but I haven't completely written that off yet. I'm still pretty certain they are military and weapons these scumbags plan on using against us.

[Blastolabs]

I would also say that "propulsion" is not an applicable term for this kind of technology.


Inertial reduction is the phrase I've heard scientists like Bob Greenyer use. It would make sense to have a "local" gravity onboard the craft, while the craft itself is free from inertia which would mean that a small amount of energy would send the craft flying, and the lack of inertia for the craft would allow right angle turns and near instant acceleration without crushing the material of the craft

[onawah]

China is already at war with the US if you count the many devious new ways with which the CCP is attacking (which we should), from Fentanyl to online hacking, which can enable them to cause all kinds of harm to the infrastructure and more, to buying up farmland and businesses in the US to be used for various nefarious purposes, to widespread propaganda used to discredit the US and make China look good.
Not to mention buying off political figures like the Bidens to do their will...


I am not intimately familiar with Ryan McBeth but what I have seen of him leads me to believe that he is just another talking head that wants to keep the world at war. He is saying that if the United States stops supporting Ukraine it will lead to a hot war with China. He has even forecasted that the USA will be at war with China in two to three years.

[mountain_jim]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ggc0XrVXcAApcUz?format=jpg&name=small

[Vangelo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ggc0XrVXcAApcUz?format=jpg&name=small

Here you go...

Ian Carroll Suggests Reports of the Las Vegas Bomber Psyop . . . ARE the Psyop
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[norman]

I'm sure Musk knows a lot more than he's said so far ( all the vehicle's meta data ).

If he does, so does Trump.

[sunwings]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ggc0XrVXcAApcUz?format=jpg&name=small

Here you go...

Ian Carroll Suggests Reports of the Las Vegas Bomber Psyop . . . ARE the Psyop
v63sm7p

The photo of Elon's truck burning in front of Trump's Hotel screams PSYOP!

There are too many grey parts to this story. However, the only truth may be Chinese involvement or whichever Reptoid has that country on LOCKDOWN.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/WorldNews_X_/status/1875625750776443202

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[RatRodRob...RRR]

https://x.com/WorldNews_X_/status/1875625750776443202

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Not sure what to make of this.
The first thing i thought was that the top circular object with the 6 or so green lights was a Drone, and the thing under it looks like a mountain lion/cat thats suspended under the drone by a tether.

Could this mountain lion/cat be a teams mascot.....?
If you look in the background you can see a section of "goal posts" that look exactly like Rugby goal posts. (i didnt think rugby was a thing in the USA), So it appears that there is a game of rugby in progress when these objects flew over the sports field.

What im thinking is that one of the teams is possibly called something like the "Washington mountain lions" , or something like that.

Where i live we have our football team (AFL) called the "Geelong cats", and our teams mascot is that of a big angry cat, so the thing suspended under the round object with the green lights could well be a teams mascot.

Funny thing is that everyone in that vid (at very beginning) is staring at these objects and these people seem to act like they have never seen these objects/mascots before.
Even all the people ON the Field are staring at these objects, but.....none of the people on the field are wearing sports gear, there are 5 or so people on the far left about an inch above the dude in the yellow jumper that are all wearing the same outfits, like a team would wear, but their outfits are not what they would wear to play the game, could be after game team outfits or something like that.

So is this a Rugby game in the USA, with people on a rugby field all staring at the objects, but none of them are wearing sports attire, and all the crowd are staring at these objects too, and goin by the audible comments made by dudes in the crowd, noone seems to know WTF is goin on.

If it is a drone with a Mascot, then there in NO mystery .(except that the crowd seem puzzled by it)
If its not a Mascot, then what the heck is goin on here.............?

RRR

[mountain_jim]

Since this thread appears to be the main place for Avalon discussion of the Las Vegas Cybertruck explosion apparent psyop, will add this deep dive here

https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957218958614896

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The main piece of information that does not fit into any plausible explanation of the Las Vegas Bombing, allegedly by Matthew Livelsberger, is this email.

Let's do a deep dive, a thread:


https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957221823037616

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Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
The first and most important reason is that the bona fides used in the email are incorrect. The entire purpose of bona fides is to prove you are who you say you are, so using fake or wrong bona fides literally implies that nothing in this email can be trusted.

Matthew Livelsberger never owned a 06 Mustang, as you can see in the vehicle registration report below provided by @Landryy22
.

This also coincides with source information I have received from people that knew Matt in High School and claimed his first vehicle was a 1998 Mustang, not a 2006 Mustang.

The models of these Mustangs are also entirely different, so there is no confusing them, and a person with the experience of Matt would not have messed up this very important aspect of bona fides in what is essentially his final attempt to get his story out.

— Green Beret Nap Time (@GBNT1952) January 5, 2025


https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957224683511916

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Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
The second reason is that a career Green Beret with the experience and training Matt received, would not have the second line of the email state that he was "not under duress or hostile influence or control."

He was a Jedburgh, meaning he went through highly specified training in HUMINT, tradecraft, and Psychological Operations. He would know that making such a statement would raise red flags such as the following:

1. It raises unnecessary suspicion and inadvertently draws attention to the possibility that you actually are under duress or operating under influence.

2. It is considered overcompensation by volunteering information that was unprompted or not requested and would imply that you are not in a competent mental state, making your follow-on statement seem unconvincing.

3. This statement could also be considered as a way to create a paper trail that fits in with a specified narrative.

Matt would know this and would not have wanted to make his attempted whistle blowing seem crazy or made up.

https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957227011678463

Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
The third reason is that he was, by all accounts, not in an Unacknowledged Special Access Program (USAP) related to the drones he speaks of in line three according to team members and others that operated with him, despite him saying so at the end of the email.

He claims to have Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (SUAS) qualifications in his LinkedIn, which is a team or operational unit level drone training qualification for drones that are under 55lbs with limited capabilities.

Many teams train with drones that would fall under a SUAS qualification, as they are used for battlefield reconnoitering or even for target acquisitions and kinetic strikes with small explosive payloads.

None of this would imply that he was read on to a Top-Secret government program that would be researching and developing gravitic propulsion systems, as stated in the email.

In fact, such a program would be so heavily compartmentalized that only people directly involved with the specific Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) USAP project would be read on and able to access information about this, if it even exists.

So, where did this come from and why add this in if it only makes you look crazy and uninformed? Suspect for sure.

https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957229188186468

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Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
The fourth reason is that the next three lines read like something straight out of anti-China MSM talking points, rambling about the east coast drones and Chinese submarines by someone who clearly has no information or expertise on the subject.

For one, the drones being Chinese launched from Chinese submarines is highly unlikely. The U.S. Navy has sophisticated submarine detection systems that include Long Range Acoustic Detection Systems (LRADS) that utilize hydrophones to detect anomalous incursions by submerged vehicles, satellite surveillance, advanced sonar, and underwater drones.

Not to mention, if China were to fly drones openly in America, that would be an actual act of war, and I just find it hard to believe that they would take that step.

For an example of catching some of these drones, a Chinese drone was just recently detected and recovered in Philippine water by their Navy which is far less advanced than our own.

If Chinese subs or underwater drones were operating along our east coast, the USG would undoubtedly be aware of this, and Matt would know and understand that stating this seems crazy.

Underwater drone recovered in Masbate | http://Philstar.com

https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957231629316287

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Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
The fifth reason is the following line states: "I have been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI, and they are looking to move on me...I have a massive VBIED. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me."

If you are this concerned about being tracked by homeland or the FBI (which are the same federal entities at this point and can badge however they want depending on the purpose), why would you do the following, which are clear breaches of Survive Evade Resist Escape (SERE), a course he would have taken, and tradecraft 101?

1. Why would you keep your phone on you and continue to allow them to track you, especially if you had a "massive VBIED" (which obviously he did not have, he had a two-bit redneck conglomeration of mortar fireworks, gas, and campfire fueling canisters put together as if he were a child). This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

2. Why would you rent a rolling, live-streaming, trackable computer such as a Tesla Cybertruck to begin your evasion on a digital site such as Turo?

Matt was a highly trained SF operator and a Jed. He would know and understand what a Surveillance Detection Route (SDR) was and how to use one effectively.

He would also not use a vehicle that needed to be recharged at continuously video monitored recharging stations multiple times along his route.

And lastly, he would not have used a service tied to his own name to rent the vehicle that could easily be tracked and monitored if he were genuinely concerned that the FBI and Homeland were on him.

3. Why would you make initial contact with all of these people on your personal Instagram (IG) account if you were worried about surveillance and monitoring, and then why would you switch to a Proton Mail (PM) account (which would be used for anonymity) that used a name you have previously used on IG?

This page has recently been deleted, but
@GrokstarXai
found the post below with some digging.

As you can see, @dabergmlb was the username used which matches his PM account.

An operator with the training that Matt received would know better than to do anything while in evasion mode that would link his current clean evasion state to any profile that identifies him. It simply makes no sense.


Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
The sixth reason is that the email itself contains a ton of misnomers or flat-out wrong information. For instance, the email states "USFORA" which is an acronym for United States Forces Afghanistan.

Someone at his level, especially as an ODA member in 2019, would have been working under the Special Operations Joint Task Force-Afghanistan (SOJTF-A) at the highest level, and he would have known this.

USFORA would be used by conventional forces, but the more well-known and common name would have been Resolute Support Mission (RSM) or Operation Resolute Support.

Again, weird word usage to come from a Special Operations guy.

Check out http://arsof-history.org for more information:

Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan (CJSOTF-A) Timeline

https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957237295775943

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Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
The seventh reason is that the entire paragraph about war crimes in 2019 is absolutely bonkers. Even if he was doing targeting (which he probably was not as an 18E or 18F on an ODA, depending on which he was at the time), this information is already known public news.

It is common knowledge that the United States dropped a record number of bombs in 2019 in Afghanistan, and it is also already public knowledge that civilian casualties exceeded those caused by the Taliban during the first six months of 2019.

Matt would have known this and alluding to this being some smoking gun that would get him in contact with higher is to put it mildly, laughable.

https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875957240143753453

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Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
The eighth reason is that there are formatting inconsistencies in the email and despite numerous requests, @samosaur has yet to provide a view of the email with technical data from Proton Mail outside of a text editor.

For an example of a formatting inconsistency, if you look at the bottom of the email posted, there is a space between < dabergmlb@protonmail.com>, where there should not be a space. It should look like the one at the top of the email.

Also, Sam posted the header as shown below, but again, he posted it from a text editor and not attached to the actual email he received.

We have asked multiple times for either a video of him opening the email with the technical data visible to see, or for a PDF of the email with all of the technical data available. He could still redact the names from this email with either of those options, yet he has continuously refused or ignored requests to do so.

Another weird thing is that AI is saying the images provided about the IG messages have been digitally altered as pointed out by
@boneGPT
.

Some answers about this are necessary.



Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
So, where do we go from here? I honestly do not know. I do not know what happened to Matt, just like I do not know if he had a mental break and did this or if he was an unwilling participant or patsy (though I still lean towards the latter, especially after seeing the video where whoever was in that truck before the explosion was clearly alive, unlike what was previously reported to us by the FBI), but what I am quite sure of is that he did not write that email.

Do with this information what you will.

Trust but verify.

DOL

[Phoenix1304]

Phoenix posted:
Now to add further mystery, someone might be able to explain, is that when I looked, there were only two shots on the camera and I simply cannot fathom the second one (which is marked as taken a minute after the first). It is a shot of a starry night yet the cloud cover was solid and it never looked that way to the naked eye for a moment. Could the camera have readjusted somehow and seen through all that fog? If you zoom in on it, you can see two sets of two lights and possibly part of a constellation. How can this be?

As an electronics engineer, I have had to test many remote control handsets. The simplest test is to point the handset towards a camera lens and press a button. A human can't see the flashing of the infra-red LED but a camera sees it (and displays it) as white. Try it!

As a consequence of the fact that most cameras "see" infra-red, any photo taken will include part of the infra-red spectrum - the nearest infra-red to visible. Maybe some cameras even "see" deep infra-red (heat). Maybe that would appear as a white glow around a hot object.

I haven't personally experimented with this but you might like to. It might explain why a camera sees things that you don't.

Thanks John, interesting. I did test it on a remote with a black window and saw the white light you speak of. It doesn’t explain why I got a whole star map though. The camera just bypassed all the cloud cover and registered infrared planets?

In any case, here’s a further development tonight. Pointing the camera again at another light I was curious about since nothing else was visible in the dark and cloudy night…I shot a quick video and took a photo. Imagine my surprise when I put it on my iPad instead of squinting at my phone and saw this…

…pause while I figure out how to post a short vid from my phone…can anyone help please?

[rgray222]

This image was recently taken by a very close friend of mine who wishes to remain anonymous. He is a professional photographer and has taught photography at the University level. He was driving when he pulled over to take this pic with his iPhone 15. The image was taken in the USA where a lot of drone activity has been reported. Hate to be so vague but it is the only way he would allow me to publish the image.

https://i.imgur.com/PXY7XgR.jpeg

[Phoenix1304]

https://x.com/ryanmcbeth/status/1875340720091099139?s=42

that Shawn Ryan interview and the "Manifesto" is bull**** according to this guy. Which I'm inclined to agree with.

Also, Shawn Ryan's father and uncle were both special forces instructors on Fort Bragg, so...

You know, I only watched a few minutes of the Shawn Ryan stuff and just switched off, I don’t know if he’s a schemer, scammer or click-baiter because they’re all out in force on this subject, I’m not really interested, I’m just feeling this is all part of the circus to keep us busy and addled while avoiding the fact that contact is being made with anyone that wants it. People are having experiences that are making them ask the big questions like can we communicate directly, telepathically with advanced intelligence currently very present in our skies in mysterious craft?

Whatever games are being played politically and militarily with their fancy reverse engineered toys seem rather irrelevant to me, although I do understand that for many, being fed and seeking prosaic explanations is more comforting than confronting the great mystery and/or acknowledging that not only are we not the only species of conscious being in the universe, we are not the most advanced or the most intelligent.

If China or Russia have designs to take over the US or the Muslims to take over Europe, they actually pale into insignificance if the Galactic Federation is here, tired of our leaders’ failures to heed guidance, tired of their squabbles and lies, out of patience. Time’s up. Now communicate directly with the people. This bypass would shatter the ruling elite eventually.

Meanwhile, it’s also a very human thing to imagine there’s wars in space between good and bad et’s, it’s disappointing for me to think this duality of good and evil would pertain to the entire universe. In any case, it does seem that in our little corner of it something big is happening…

[Artemesia]

Hello Artemesia,

I don’t think your post is entirely unrelated to this thread, or maybe we need a new one ‘current phenomena’…

I am now certain there is ET activity going on and the drones are a separate man made spectacle, so to your picture, are you saying the person in the white cap at the desk was not there to the naked eye? You say this happens to you all the time, is that unexpected figures in photos?’

Sharing some photos here for SilentFeathers. I had another strange owl incident occur (involving a vision of an owl and then finding a REAL owl that had been hit by a car on the side of the road when I was heading to town, driving rural forest roads). I buried the beautiful creature in my own forest land and some feathers now adorn my Earth medicine ‘protection’ pole on my land. I had just done some plant medicine work for someone and was paid for that work with a large selenite spiral crystal and put it in the crystal tower holder on the post, and snapped a pic. My camera powered down immediately after this image was taken. There is a light anomaly of some
kind in the picture off in the woods to the left of the post (where there is nothing but a ravine with a waterfall in it, no lights, no structures there whatsoever) and a close up zoom of the or reveals … something. There are little ‘sparkles’ all around the post if you zoom in, but these are likely flash shine on raindrops. I live in the Dagoba system (a temperate rainforest) and it always pours prodigious amounts of water this time of year. But the larger light anomaly (some call these orbs, some feel they are the conveyance vehicle of the interdimensional beings themselves) is up high, off to the left of the post. You decide what you see.

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[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1877679865782018209

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Trump War Room

@TrumpWarRoom
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PRESIDENT TRUMP: "I'm going to give you a report on drones about one day into the administration because I think it's ridiculous that they're not telling you about what's going on with the drones."

[SilentFeathers]

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1877679865782018209

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Trump War Room

@TrumpWarRoom
·
15h
PRESIDENT TRUMP: "I'm going to give you a report on drones about one day into the administration because I think it's ridiculous that they're not telling you about what's going on with the drones."

I'll believe it when I "hear" it, I'm not holding my breath.

If it was that simple why not just say what's going on today???????????

[Rawhide68]

Some of our brave UFO oflogists have spoke out about the lights in the sky starting from November and continnuing worldwide.


There wil be light shed on this matter before January runs out acording to Dr S Greer.

Mr Bledsoe who says he has it all, tells us its comming, and soon.

And dont forget "All hell will break out i JAN 2025" was stated in from Ross Coulthart in the show "Need to Know" from December (If anyone can find a clip of that*^`?= to me)

Stephen Basset said - They are fed up with us, now its time fore disclossure

"Richard Dolan" = ? dunno

Feel free to add to the list!

What are your thoughts?

[Artemesia]

Some of our brave UFO oflogists have spoke out about the lights in the sky starting from November and continnuing worldwide.


There wil be light shed on this matter before January runs out acording to Dr S Greer.

Mr Bledsoe who says he has it all, tells us its comming, and soon.

And dont forget "All hell will break out i JAN 2025" was stated in from Ross Coulthart in the show "Need to Know" from December (If anyone can find a clip of that*^`?= to me)

Stephen Basset said - They are fed up with us, now its time fore disclossure

"Richard Dolan" = ? dunno

Feel free to add to the list!

What are your thoughts?

I think an important question to ask oneself in all this is, "do I really want someone else's STORY on this?" real disclosure happens within. yes, some external information is useful, but its clear that no one who is given a platform on the world stage has an ounce of truth to share that isnt tied into a monetary system or kickback or some kind of agenda motivation at its core. Real contact is simple, silent and obtuse. It comes in strange messages and hints from the infinite that are difficult to decipher until the moment when their meaning is completely obvious, and it was only ever meant for the one who experienced it first hand in the first place. If you remember the nature of the contact Jodi Foster's character made in the film Contact, which has a long and interesting thread discussing the nature of that interaction as presented in the film here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121667-Movie-Contact-Hidden-Gem&p=1571785&viewfull=1#post1571785

then that is more like what real contact actually is. and outside of a movie from over 30 years ago.... its unlikely that the chaotic node that is digital media of the current timeline will present anything remotely accurate or free of manipulation in terms of outlining the truth of what is actually happening. it has to be lived. on an individual level. whatever that is for you.

As for a disclosure? from someone who has a global media megaphone? its sure to be a telephone game of distorted conversations. disclosure is letting yourself experience contact, and being brave enough to admit that that is what is happening, and that no one else can 'be there' in that moment but you.

this is probably not the information or response that most want to hear. most are still looking outside themselves to something perceived as an 'authority' or 'in the know' for corroboration or answers. personally, I have decided that 'they', in any form of that posturing, have exactly nothing to offer. in any way whatsoever. as such, per usual, i am guessing there will be some angry rebukes to this reply of mine. its just what I have concluded after a lot of personal experience, and contact with something largely unknown and otherworldly. in the end, the journey is basically an entirely solitary one. its why the other dimensional contact being in the film 'Contact' that i mentioned above says to Ellie, "we take one step, and then another, its how contact always happens. and what we've found is that in all this space, in all its vastness, the only thing that makes it bearable.... is each other.' its a vastness of solitude with some remarkable moments of companionship along the way. if you let it be that.

it doesn't have to be that solitary, but most people fear the alone-ness that is a hallmark of that level of existential awareness. its the aloneness that Ellie faced upon her 'return' that probably underscored just how profound 'contact' truly was for her.

I posted a cool video about what that feels like, from a more philosophical perspective, over on the Negative time thread, if you want a more eloquent and pictorial description of that kind of moment:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123671-Negative-Time&p=1650020&viewfull=1#post1650020

anyways, those are my thoughts, since you asked.

[thepainterdoug]

rawhide. I have from my intel agency friend/ contact that there will be a significant event coming around the time of the inauguration regarding this topic.

[mountain_jim]

copying here (for segment later in interview)


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1878956242418168193

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Tucker Carlson

@TuckerCarlson

Michael Shellenberger may be the best reporter in America. Here’s what he’s learned about the fires in Los Angeles — and about UFOs.

(0:00) How Many Fires Are There? Where Did They Come From?
(3:03) Are Meth Heads Lighting the Fires?
(14:56) DEI Fire Departments
(34:44) Leftists Blame Climate Change Yet Again
(36:47) Gavin Newsom Is Too Busy Hating Trump to Fight Fires
(48:30) The Golden Age of Journalism
(51:34) California Homelessness and Drug Addiction
(1:02:54) Why Wasn’t California Prepared?
(1:24:00) Mass Looting
(1:26:41) The Future of California
(1:31:00) The Intel Agencies Are Losing Control
(1:37:03) Drones, UAPs, and Anti-Gravity Tech
(2:11:02) Shawn Ryan’s Coverage of the Cybertruck Explosion

Includes paid partnerships.

[TrumanCash]

Chinese Drone Firm DJI Eliminates Automatic No-Fly Zones One Week Before Trump's Inauguration -- Zerohedge

DJI, the world's largest civilian drone manufacturer and a Chinese-owned company, has reportedly announced it will replace its geofencing system with official Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) data for all flight operations in the US. The changes, which took effect on Monday, come just one week before President Trump's inauguration in Washington, D.C, as well as concerns about drones across US cities and hovering near US military installations.

The official DJI blog, "ViewPoints," provided more color on the geofencing policy change, which will now allow drone operators to fly in previously restricted 'No-Fly Zones':

With this update, DJI's Fly and Pilot flight app operators will see prior DJI geofencing datasets replaced to display official Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) data. Areas previously defined as Restricted Zones (also known as No-Fly Zones) will be displayed as Enhanced Warning Zones, aligning with the FAA's designated areas. In these zones, in-app alerts will notify operators flying near FAA designated controlled airspace, placing control back in the hands of the drone operators, in line with regulatory principles of the operator bearing final responsibility.

Read more at https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/chinese-drone-firm-dji-eliminates-automatic-no-fly-zones-one-week-trumps-inauguration

[SilentFeathers]

Trump was asked about the drones today and said he would reveal what's going on January 21st.
At around 18:30 in this video asked if these drones are dangerous, Trump did not say a word but looked to others to respond to the question. He absolutely knew not to make a response to this question.
Something very weird about his behavior for sure as I think this is the first time I've ever seen Trump keep his mouth shut when asked about anything!
I honestly don't think we are going to get a clear explanation about these drones from Trump on January 21st. He'll likely tell the American people it's classified but will assure everyone there is absolutely no danger.

'Any Questions?': Trump Takes Question After Question From Peter Doocy | FULL
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[SilentFeathers]

This video highly likely belongs in this thread in my opinion.
It's one of the best explained video's I've ever seen on how to spot a psyops and or how people are manipulated.


Manipulation Playbook: The 20 Indicators of Reality Control
Are you being manipulated without even realizing it? In this video, we unveil the Manipulation Playbook—a detailed guide to recognizing the 20 indicators of reality control used by media, corporations, and even governments to shape what you think, feel, and do.

From fear tactics and emotional scripts to the overuse of authority and timing tricks, we break down how these strategies work and how you can spot them in real-time. Using the F.A.T.E. Model, we’ll show you actionable steps to resist manipulation, think critically, and stay in control of your perspective.

This isn’t just about uncovering the lies—it’s about empowering yourself with tools to stay grounded in a world full of noise and hidden agendas.
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[Frankie Pancakes]

The former governor of New Jersey
Chris Christie

[Eric J (Viking)]

PRESIDENT TRUMP: "I'm going to give you a report on drones about one day into the administration because I think it's ridiculous that they're not telling you about what's going on with the drones."

https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1877521790920020281 (https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1877521790920020281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1877521790920020281%7Ctwgr% 5Eddcb32b92671b63ce8eeb72577fbefca730d20b1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rumormillnews.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fforum.cgi%3Fread%3D250423)
1877521790920020281

[Artemesia]

PRESIDENT TRUMP: "I'm going to give you a report on drones about one day into the administration because I think it's ridiculous that they're not telling you about what's going on with the drones."

https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1877521790920020281 (https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1877521790920020281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1877521790920020281%7Ctwgr% 5Eddcb32b92671b63ce8eeb72577fbefca730d20b1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rumormillnews.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fforum.cgi%3Fread%3D250423)
1877521790920020281

its the week when everything is about to get real weird. I look forward to Tuesday when the new episode of ‘what’s up with the drones’ comes out. It will be like the Quantum Leap reboot meets Resident Alien. All New Season! But… “for reals”.

[Helvetic]

Former NASA Scientist Richard Lighthouse Claims the Drones are Ours but the Orbs are Not | Jan. 21, 2025

Source: Sarah Westall bitchute (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/1Ez5eVnVz1yY)

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[SilentFeathers]

Trump was asked about the drones today and said he would reveal what's going on January 21st.
At around 18:30 in this video asked if these drones are dangerous, Trump did not say a word but looked to others to respond to the question. He absolutely knew not to make a response to this question.
Something very weird about his behavior for sure as I think this is the first time I've ever seen Trump keep his mouth shut when asked about anything!
I honestly don't think we are going to get a clear explanation about these drones from Trump on January 21st. He'll likely tell the American people it's classified but will assure everyone there is absolutely no danger.

'Any Questions?': Trump Takes Question After Question From Peter Doocy | FULL
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Exactly, go back to sleep.....

Trump's White House finally gives answer to drones that flew over NJ
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[Satori]

The real story here is not that these were manmade drones “authorized by the FAA”, but that the legacy media and alt media got right on the band wagon with the UFO/UAP angle and some other clickbait, titillation and fear mongering. And, from another angle, a US Congressman looked right in the camera and said it was an Iranian mothership releasing Drones.

Why?

I’ve seen or heard very little about Drones since November 5, 2024.

[thepainterdoug]

the explanation and all surrounding this smells . i dont buy it. Hobbyists adding to it? why the craze, and why now its absence

doesnt wash

[SilentFeathers]

the explanation and all surrounding this smells . i dont buy it. Hobbyists adding to it? why the craze, and why now its absence

doesnt wash

Personally I think there was a huge operation in action that was called off and aborted for some reason. Perhaps a false flag disaster event, a coup d'é·tat against Trump, or assassination of Trump. Probably all of the above.

Something HUGE happened and this operation halted.

I never bought in to the alien invasion or disclosure thing, that would be done in a more convincing way than a bunch of drones with FAA regulation lights on them.

[Helvetic]

They talk about drones but not about the orbs, not even the CIA knows what the orbs are. They don't know anything.

Even Mr. Bledsoe knows nothing about the orbs, for him as a religious person they are angels like for many people in the past history because they are not involved.

Many know a lot more and perhaps the time will come when the truth will be revealed. But I can tell you one thing, they are not extraterrestrial. Those who have read my posts can guess where they come from.

[Blastolabs]

The drones have not gone away or died down according to people all over the country.
Seems like the media just stopped covering it.
A few hours ago there were 10 "drones" over Portland Oregon being live streamed on YouTube
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[Helvetic]

https://i.ibb.co/LdsTdV9F/jake-barber.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Bill Ryan]

https://i.ibb.co/LdsTdV9F/jake-barber.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)That's true. Trump (and his new press secretary Karoline Leavitt) are doubtless faithfully reporting what they've been told in answers to their own questions, but they're being gaslit as well.

[grapevine]

Trump on Jersey Drones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RruzCFUrOyk&ab_channel=CBSNews (0:43)
What Karoline Leavitt says is very ambiguous anyway

"The drones that were flying over Jersey . . . . for research and various other reasons. . . ." I mean, wtf?

It's disappointing that Trump isn't better informed, especally given the Cabinet he's chosen. We can only hope there's more going on behind the scenes.

[Baby Steps]

Greetings

The scenario was that all kinds of drones were present over built up areas and military bases. Sightings that people mentioned were in part of things most probably NOT common or garden Drones. Therefore if they were from earth, they were exotic deep state tech or indigenous earth advanced civilisations. So , say the deep state deployed all kinds of exotic flying machines - why would they - its hard not to conclude that it was a strategy to hide, confuse or otherwise obfuscate the presence of off world vehicles.

If these are part of what we are seeing why did they appear and risk causing public disclosure? It can only be that they had decided that the time had arrived for these moves, and that ethically they had calculated that needs outweighed risks.

It appears now that this has greatly reduced.

Throw some more data into the mix - Trump was not briefed when he said that the Military know exactly what is going on. Now he's briefed, he is trying to pass it off as just hobbyists. This of course does not cut it, as no military base would remain passive if hobbyists flow drones into their vicinity. They would blow them out of the sky.

The UK situation is that they were noted above Bases, where USA Military are located. No action taken or threat indicated. Its largely ended here too.

The timing is important. In the build u to the transition of power in the USA, this activity was extensive, but now he's established its all fading away.

What do these observations imply?

Its not the first time 'they' have taken an interest in our military bases. It suggests to me that something that 'they' would wish to prevent, was a danger in the run up to the transition. Something associated with the US Military.

That shouts to me 'nuclear false flag to take down Trump' or 'strike on Russia for the same reason'

Maybe.

[Bill Ryan]

https://i.ibb.co/LdsTdV9F/jake-barber.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)That's true. Trump (and his new press secretary Karoline Leavitt) are doubtless faithfully reporting what they've been told in answers to their own questions, but they're being gaslit as well.Richard Dolan agrees. His summary: "They can't not know how lame that was." :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl7rq6A10OA

[SilentFeathers]

https://i.ibb.co/LdsTdV9F/jake-barber.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)That's true. Trump (and his new press secretary Karoline Leavitt) are doubtless faithfully reporting what they've been told in answers to their own questions, but they're being gaslit as well.Richard Dolan agrees. His summary: "They can't not know how lame that was." :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl7rq6A10OA

She may of actually been telling a partial truth when she said most were legal FAA registered drones doing research.

The question is now, what were they researching? Alien orbs, ships, and plasma balls???????

Personally I think the deep state and globalists were going to do a huge false flag disaster type of event, cause chaos beyond belief and do a coup against Trump to keep power etc etc etc.

Somehow someway the operation was aborted IMO.

Perhaps ET or some other type of force said no to this operation and coup and put their "airborne" advanced technology in the skies to take action if these lunatic globalist didn't abort.

Once these orbs and alien ships and plasma balls all were deployed our military had no choice but to fill the skies with our drones etc as cover and to confuse the public of all these alien high technology weapons.

I'm just speculating and rambling on but with all the insanity going on now a days anything is possible......