What do you think about death?

[ebikethetransport]

I'm in agreement with the Dali Lama. That death is coming for us all and it doesn't really matter. It's unavoidable, so the only thing that matters is what we do with now, which determines our conscious-state when that dragon arrives.


What do you think? Watch this 3 minute video and post your reflections.


https://youtu.be/OIYMMfLEKY8?si=-0HPJrN0ReHD3Pho
OIYMMfLEKY8

[Michi]

I'm in agreement with the Dali Lama. That death is coming for us all and it doesn't really matter. It's unavoidable, so the only thing that matters is what we do with now, which determines our conscious-state when that dragon arrives.


What do you think? Watch this 3 minute video and post your reflections.


https://youtu.be/OIYMMfLEKY8?si=-0HPJrN0ReHD3Pho

Yes, agree and I would add, one can plan somewhat one's journey before leaving his body. It's like planning your next trip. There may be variations along the way but for the outcome, intention plays an important part.

[Mike Gorman]

Human life is marked out as consisting of Birth, which is a traumatic event for most, or at ;east a startling shift in states, we then of course go through childhood, puberty, adulthood and then the opposite of birth, Death. Dying is a very natural and expected event, nothing to be frightened of, it will occur inevitably, we take no money with us: the homeless person's grave is equal to the multi-billionaire's grave in containing no usable wealth. I have already lived nearly 67 years, I am ready to leave whenever I am called, no worries, it is going to be a struggle financially to live much beyond 70 as it is...nothing to be concerned about, it happens to us all.

[rgray222]

Death is simply part of life, it is nothing to be feared. The sadness surrounding death is only for those you are leaving behind, otherwise it is a wonderful and joyous event.

[ebikethetransport]

I agree with you. In fact, I believe intention is King. However, if you listen to the Dalai Lama, he clearly told us that Death comes with no formality. You can't apply or plan for it.

[Wind]

It's like taking off an old tight shoe.

[Mike]

Perhaps the moment of death (leaving the body) is wonderful and liberating. I hope it is. It's likely nothing to be feared.

But the dying part, fear that. We're foolish not to. And by fear, I mean respect it. I've worked in hospitals, I've seen how people die, and quite often there's nothing especially spiritual or even dignified about it. It's often some combination of intense physical suffering and madness.

By fearing and respecting that, maybe one will be motivated enough to live the type of healthy life that will allow for a dignified death, with a minimum of suffering

[rgray222]

Perhaps the moment of death (leaving the body) is wonderful and liberating. I hope it is. It's likely nothing to be feared.

But the dying part, fear that. We're foolish not to. And by fear, I mean respect it. I've worked in hospitals, I've seen how people die, and quite often there's nothing especially spiritual or even dignified about it. It's often some combination of intense physical suffering and madness.

By fearing and respecting that, maybe one will be motivated enough to live the type of healthy life that will allow for a dignified death, with a minimum of suffering

I wish I knew why suffering for so many (but not all) is part of the human experience but it certainly is. Without getting into a religious context or some type of existential reflection discussion I do think there 'can be dignity' in suffering. End-of-life suffering has meaning which I believe is very difficult for us to understand until we are going through the process. It is a very personal experience which goes with you when you pass.

[Mike]

Perhaps the moment of death (leaving the body) is wonderful and liberating. I hope it is. It's likely nothing to be feared.

But the dying part, fear that. We're foolish not to. And by fear, I mean respect it. I've worked in hospitals, I've seen how people die, and quite often there's nothing especially spiritual or even dignified about it. It's often some combination of intense physical suffering and madness.

By fearing and respecting that, maybe one will be motivated enough to live the type of healthy life that will allow for a dignified death, with a minimum of suffering

I wish I knew why suffering for so many (but not all) is part of the human experience but it certainly is. Without getting into a religious context or some type of existential reflection discussion I do think there 'can be dignity' in suffering. End-of-life suffering has meaning which I believe is very difficult for us to understand until we are going through the process. It is a very personal experience which goes with you when you pass.


I think I would agree with all that. In an abstract or spiritual way, the suffering has meaning or is somehow required for certain people while fulfilling their ..karma? Life contract? Oh hell if I know but you get the point.

But while we're in the body it's going to suck royally and feel undignified, particularly if you're on a bed pan and require assistance to wipe yourself etc, and are in agony due to bed sores, and so forth.

I don't write all this to be the party pooper or fear mongerer, but just to introduce a little reality into these types of discussions. Death itself is likely a beautiful thing, but dying can be a brutal game.

[Sue (Ayt)]

It has been interesting to me to ponder the various deaths of friends and loved ones, and sometimes feeling like they actually choose their way of death.
Like, some go hard, clinging to their last ounce of life even when it includes great pain. Others leave more gently, even serenely, like they are so ready for their journey. And a few exit doing what they love.

Like my father-in-law. He was a long-time over-the-road trucker. A true road warrior, always ready to help out anyone in trouble on the road. He also was always the first to freely offer help or charity to anyone needing it. That was his nature, and he died at an older age, when he was helping an even older man to change his tire. He died instantly of a heart attack, while changing the tire, and he died doing what he loved.

[rgray222]

Perhaps the moment of death (leaving the body) is wonderful and liberating. I hope it is. It's likely nothing to be feared.

But the dying part, fear that. We're foolish not to. And by fear, I mean respect it. I've worked in hospitals, I've seen how people die, and quite often there's nothing especially spiritual or even dignified about it. It's often some combination of intense physical suffering and madness.

By fearing and respecting that, maybe one will be motivated enough to live the type of healthy life that will allow for a dignified death, with a minimum of suffering

I wish I knew why suffering for so many (but not all) is part of the human experience but it certainly is. Without getting into a religious context or some type of existential reflection discussion I do think there 'can be dignity' in suffering. End-of-life suffering has meaning which I believe is very difficult for us to understand until we are going through the process. It is a very personal experience which goes with you when you pass.


I think I would agree with all that. In an abstract or spiritual way, the suffering has meaning or is somehow required for certain people while fulfilling their ..karma? Life contract? Oh hell if I know but you get the point.

But while we're in the body it's going to suck royally and feel undignified, particularly if you're on a bed pan and require assistance to wipe yourself etc, and are in agony due to bed sores, and so forth.

I don't write all this to be the party pooper or fear mongerer, but just to introduce a little reality into these types of discussions. Death itself is likely a beautiful thing, but dying can be a brutal game.

Well aren't you a bubble bursting fear-mongering party pooper ~ may you experience a swift and speedy death sans bed pan. lol

[Mike]

Perhaps the moment of death (leaving the body) is wonderful and liberating. I hope it is. It's likely nothing to be feared.

But the dying part, fear that. We're foolish not to. And by fear, I mean respect it. I've worked in hospitals, I've seen how people die, and quite often there's nothing especially spiritual or even dignified about it. It's often some combination of intense physical suffering and madness.

By fearing and respecting that, maybe one will be motivated enough to live the type of healthy life that will allow for a dignified death, with a minimum of suffering

I wish I knew why suffering for so many (but not all) is part of the human experience but it certainly is. Without getting into a religious context or some type of existential reflection discussion I do think there 'can be dignity' in suffering. End-of-life suffering has meaning which I believe is very difficult for us to understand until we are going through the process. It is a very personal experience which goes with you when you pass.


I think I would agree with all that. In an abstract or spiritual way, the suffering has meaning or is somehow required for certain people while fulfilling their ..karma? Life contract? Oh hell if I know but you get the point.

But while we're in the body it's going to suck royally and feel undignified, particularly if you're on a bed pan and require assistance to wipe yourself etc, and are in agony due to bed sores, and so forth.

I don't write all this to be the party pooper or fear mongerer, but just to introduce a little reality into these types of discussions. Death itself is likely a beautiful thing, but dying can be a brutal game.

Well aren't you a bubble bursting fear-mongering party pooper ~ may you experience a swift and speedy death sans bed pan. lol


My dad told me he was almost hit in the head by a falling coconut from a very big tree last week. Imagine that.. death by coconut:) We had a pretty good laugh over that.

My dad's dad (my grandfather) died during his morning bowel movement lol. This is kinda amusing, and seems like an undignified way to go, but like death by coconut it was a pretty swift and merciful way actually. We should all be so lucky.

I was just telling a friend: I expect to go in a similarly undignified but merciful way.. likely in a Walmart, slumped over some cat food or something when my heart finally quits on me. It'll be caught on video and all kinds of internet memes will be created as a result of it.

[Mike]

It has been interesting to me to ponder the various deaths of friends and loved ones, and sometimes feeling like they actually choose their way of death.
Like, some go hard, clinging to their last ounce of life even when it includes great pain. Others leave more gently, even serenely, like they are so ready for their journey. And a few exit doing what they love.

Like my father-in-law. He was a long-time over-the-road trucker. A true road warrior, always ready to help out anyone in trouble on the road. He also was always the first to freely offer help or charity to anyone needing it. That was his nature, and he died at an older age, when he was helping an even older man to change his tire. He died instantly of a heart attack, while changing the tire, and he died doing what he loved.


That was a really poignant post, Sue:heart: The way your father in law passed seems kinda perfect and poetic.

[Brigantia]

My dad told me he was almost hit in the head by a falling coconut from a very big tree last week. Imagine that.. death by coconut:) We had a pretty good laugh over that.

My dad's dad (my grandfather) died during his morning bowel movement lol. This is kinda amusing, and seems like an undignified way to go, but like death by coconut it was a pretty swift and merciful way actually. We should all be so lucky.

I was just telling a friend: I expect to go in a similarly undignified but merciful way.. likely in a Walmart, slumped over some cat food or something when my heart finally quits on me. It'll be caught on video and all kinds of internet memes will be created as a result of it.

A brilliant post Mike - a host of memes as your epitaph! :lol:

My dad's dad also departed in the same manner as yours - he was the owner of a factory and it happened as he was at work one morning and they had to break the door down, imagine the indignity of all your employees knowing that. I guess by then he was beyond caring.

For me, as it is for all - it's inevitable. I believe in a return to spirit with joyful reunions, something to look forward to as there are many in spirit that I miss terribly. It's interesting that I once learned, when learning about the metaphysical causes of illness, that dementia is a fear of dying. It seems to be a more common condition in this age where many more people in the West are atheists and therefore don't believe that they will pass into another form of life.

I know that there is a belief that 'going into the light' is a reincarnation trap but nobody knows that until they get there, so it's a chance I'm prepared to take in order to see my loved ones again.

[onevoice]

It has been interesting to me to ponder the various deaths of friends and loved ones, and sometimes feeling like they actually choose their way of death.
Like, some go hard, clinging to their last ounce of life even when it includes great pain. Others leave more gently, even serenely, like they are so ready for their journey. And a few exit doing what they love.

Like my father-in-law. He was a long-time over-the-road trucker. A true road warrior, always ready to help out anyone in trouble on the road. He also was always the first to freely offer help or charity to anyone needing it. That was his nature, and he died at an older age, when he was helping an even older man to change his tire. He died instantly of a heart attack, while changing the tire, and he died doing what he loved.

We see full spectrum of death experiences - from peaceful transition to very painful experiences. My own grandmother passed peacefully at night at our home one night when she was 92. Next morning we discovered she had passed. She never spent a day in the hospital her whole life. She was always active her whole life, helping out in whatever way she could contribute. All day long, she was always chuckling at everything. I wish I could be like her at times.

Our former neighbor across the street died of heart attack while playing Golf, which he loved. His wife died years later. She was weary at the end and chose not to eat anything and gave up on life. So she was taken to a hospice care and passed eventually after more than 2 weeks without food.

I've experienced what it is to live without any nourishment for over a week at a hospital over 8 years ago. I've also experienced extreme pain. The inner cells of my gallbladder was sloughing into the bile duct and clogging it up causing extreme pain off the scale. Toward the end I was receiving Dilaudid (Hydromorphone) every 2 hours around the clock and a Fentanyl patch. Dilaudid is several times stronger than morphine. and Fentanyl is up to 100 times stronger than morphine. Since the specialist had to be on call to operate at any time, I was not given any nourishment for 7 days. I was only allowed some ice slivers occasionally and IV maintained normal fluids in my bloodstream. Toward the end of my hospital stay, two specialist surgeons removed my gallbladder. I'm fairly healthy now.

My mother clung to life to the end and in the years her health slowly declined. In the end years, my sister stayed with her and cared for her 24/7 until the very end.

My foster Dad died of severe pneumonia years ago. He was on breathing machine and feeding tubes. He was a horrible man to me and my sister our whole time we were with him. I forgave him for all the bad things he did to me before he passed. He never acknowledged all the horrible things he did to me and my sister. He was pretty horrible individual, always having mistresses throughout the years.

His wife (our foster mom) died early yesterday morning (12/14/2024) of congestive heart failure and lung failure. She had malignant mass in her lungs as well. She was never nice to us either, always scolding us for one thing or another. Her most frequent admonishment was "Keep quiet!" which we heard almost daily.

My wife's father was bedridden the last few months of his life. He suffered a stroke and after that he had to wear diaper which someone else needed to change. He needed 24 hour care which my wife provided for him by herself. He was a mayor of his town at one time, but he wasn't faithful to his wife, having several mistresses over the years.

My wife's mother was a very peaceful and caring person. She never complained and never gossiped about anyone else. She passed peacefully and she's now residing in a Buddhist Pureland (there are many of these), which is similar to Christian heaven. The main difference is that once in the Pureland, the reincarnation process is over. However, residents of Heaven are reincarnated again after their good karma has been used up.

So now that both of our foster parents and biological parents have passed on, perhaps I can start healing my broken heart. My sister has gone through years of psychiatric therapy.

I realize that life is always about choices, and the death is a cumulative result of all our choices. For me, I see living a selfish life leads to varying degrees of suffering at the end, while living an caring un-selfish life leads to peaceful experience of varying degrees at the end.

[Heart to heart]

Death will be my next great adventure, meanwhile I shall enjoy the one I am experiencing in the NOW 🌈

[wondering]

I'm not sure I think someone's manner of death is a direct result of the way they lived their life. My father had quite a peaceful death, but he was a harsh and distant father, although he mellowed in his later years. I think this issue, like many in our lives, is not always knowable. To my thinking, it may have more to do with our life plan and/or agreements.

[Satori]

It is inevitable and unavoidable. It is a great and ineffable mystery. It is what we all face. It is the ultimate equalizer. It is something that happens sooner, and sometimes faster, than one expects. It is a highly personal experience. It is something that enters my thoughts a bit more lately. It is not to be feared.

[arjunaloka_official]

I could be completely wrong, however I would guess that

almost all people will die and be reborn;
some will die and then enter heaven;
very few will enter heaven alive without death, examples from the scripture include the Virgin Mary, Jesus, the prophets Enoch and Elijah, and a few others
ascension to heaven might also be possible through transfiguration; this might be even rarer then "normal" ascension, where the water-dominated body changes directly into light/plasma, as Jesus did on the mountain (Jesus then changed/came back for additional teaching)
death is most likely like birth; during birth you enter the waking state of the new incarnation for the first time; when dying, you will leave waking state for the last time in the current incarnation
some say you die every night a little bit, and you return each morning; just that in the "final night", you don´t return to the current incarnation;
death is probably like waking state and like sleep state, there are 3 cases: unaware, dreaming, lucid; simply put:

if you die unaware, it is like sleeping without dreaming - you will die, experience nothing, and enter the next incarnation, covering any karma (which could not be balanced during the last incarnation) in the next incarnation, and be born unaware, i.e. sleepwalking
if you die dreaming, you will enter a death experience and it will feel real as per scripture - most will NOT have a hell experience, because in most cases karma can be balanced during lifetime already, so there is nothing to balance after life; few will have a temporary hell experience because karma could not be fully balanced during lifetime; you will then be reborn dreaming - thinking reality is real
if you die lucid or enlightened, you will know that reality is not "real" and determined, you will know that dreams are not real/determined, and you will know that "death" is not real/determined - rather, waking state, sleep state and death will merge into permanent present consciousness where you can pretty much do exactly what you want to do - under the condition of responsibility for each action; I suppose if you die lucid, chances might be higher that you don´t return to this level of reality, but reach at least some state of "moksha", i.e. you move up to the oversoul level, where you will oversee and guide multiple human incarnations as a guardian angel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entering_heaven_alive

[Agape]

What do I think of "untimely death" is that it happens, due to negligence , chronic ailments involving all kinds of pollutants also known as poisons and specifically "poisons of mind" in Buddhist philosophy , chronic anger, envy, jealousy , insatiated desires and cravings and attachment to own ignorance and sluggish nature,
untimely deaths happen due to collective karma of nations and other human groups and collectively poisonous emotions they chronically experience, in case of nations and tribes for centuries or even longer,
some collective mental conditions outlast millenia.

In fact, accidental and untimely deaths usually bring on just more confusion hence suffering of ignorance instead of just plain "nothing" on to those left behind

hence they should not be seen as a "normal" way to go in advanced thinkers , modern and future humans.


The institution of Dalailamas ( Considered the Ocean of Wisdom among other lamas and teachers of philosophy) now exists only thanks to the fact that advanced yogis and jnanis ( knowers) of past, presence and future were able to choose the time of their passing .

So in turn it can be said that while we are intellectually and spiritually evolving beyond the versions of our previous ignorant selves,
many other individuals should be able to pick the right time of their "soul transference"

unless they suffer accident or unless they insist on prolonging their life artificially.

There is a guiding intelligence in almost everything we naturally experience including pain , chronic pain and other signs of energetic degradation of biological processes we may experience for years before our time is over.

They are here to remind us that we have better plan for future.

They are here to remind us of whatever is or was important to us - our body vessel - is times more pertinent and important to us than "all the rest of the news" and "fashionable portfolios" we tried to paint of self to feel better than our selves did feel, actually.

All the mishap and physical and spiritual suffering is here to help us to think deeper , bigger , out of the box.

No matter what type of suffering did ancient masters experience they would not, did not choose to terminate it or terminate life by force especially not in Indo-Tibetan-Chinese traditions of Dharma practice but on the other hand,
built enough inner strength : allowing them to leave the mortal remain behind by free will.

That said I believe, I've given you a "secret" hint or two and how to look at your own experience from many sides and angles before concluding it.

Passing of Soul ..can also be rather advanced , uplifting experience for an individual and their surroundings provided there's cognitive resonance , understanding and state of grace present .
Such a passage is rarely really painful or traumatic or traumatizing to others and it's neither truly a death or dirty event.


Colophon: While people of today invented many methods on how to live and die cleanly , in sterile environments etc.,

fewer people seem to have the courage to last and learn
whatever we came to learn here.

While every form of emotion including exalted and spiritual consciousnesses can be replicated , their effect on individuals true causality is minute compared to the depth of own experience, wisdom learned from within and power of Soul decisions about selves, life and guiding moments ( tho the latter can be misguiding they too are "part of us" and our free will ).

In short , don't give your life n passing to someone else. Don't throw it all to one bin.

Enjoy being different, and unique. Find why did you came here and where "you" want to go next despite all the other people believing differently.

And so forth.

🙏

[Heart to heart]

This morning while reading through my journal of information received by Robin, who you may have seen on my shared videos, I came across these words on the subject of DEATH.

“At the point of death you do not discard what it is you have become. At the point of death you become unique in the perspective that you remember EVERYTHING that you have been. You may not remember at that point but you have ACCESS to everything you have been.”

“You are blessed my children with so many ASSETS: the gift of LIFE, the gift of LOVE, and .the gift of DEATH strangely enough.
The realisation that all things do not stop at that point, it is the START of something else. As you stop here you find yourself suddenly with so many different ASSETS outside of this domain. You will see many people, touch many things, yet you still do not have the full picture at that point.”

“In between lives we become a spectrum of our former selves. Yes, indeed we are trapped in a single episode called LIFE, but that is not all the story. When we gain perspective once again a further picture will appear and our mastery will come to the fore. You, we, us, are all ONE and nobody or nothing has the right to remove that perspective and rite of passage.
Untold episodes conclude as the clock strikes midnight, but this time THE HANDS STAY STILL and the conclusion to your journey is assessed at this point.

You are NOT examined, prodded or poked, but your CONSCIOUSNESS will beam out your exact location in linear time, and your state of CONSCIOUS AWARENESS at that point. Nothing will be removed, taken away or added, you will be YOURSELF and your STARLIGHT will reflect this fact.”

[rgray222]

When someone is reaching the end of their life, the discussion generally involves stabilizing their physical condition and alleviating pain. So frequently the most important end-of-life discussion is completely forgotten or avoided, which is giving your loved one permission to let go or to leave. The medical staff won't bring this up and families resist this discussion because it is too painful. It is truly the last act of love you can bestow upon your loved one, and it also acknowledges the fact that life goes on.

[ebikethetransport]

Yeah. I agree, but I wouldn't be flippant about it. In actuality, it's a very painful process. I hope I get hit by a bullet.

[ebikethetransport]

Right. Well, we've all got to go out some way, and I hope it's not long and painful for me. Point taken.

[rgray222]

Here is a thread that people might find interesting, What Happens After You Die and Before You Reincarnate, Between Lives (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114257-What-Happens-After-You-Die-And-Before-You-Reincarnate-Between-Lives)

[Strat]

Not much, I think more about life than I do death. I'm a flawed person and I've got a lot of work to do before my number is called. I remind myself that it's coming to keep me in check so to speak, but I don't dwell on it by any means.

[Agape]

Yeah. I agree, but I wouldn't be flippant about it. In actuality, it's a very painful process. I hope I get hit by a bullet.

Most peaceful deaths occur during sleep , with active peaks around midnight , after 2 AM and between 4 to 5 AM, last option at 7 AM ,
before the alarm clock starts ringing again.

Todays human society cultivates new idea of love n die where like in accelerated video game, everything happens very fast , human status is mistaken for that of "social care number" , worker and a burden to the state ,
much less than sovereign thinking, feeling, breathing entity

so also people now cherish "honorable death from overwork" above other forms of human sacrifice.


By that time you may discover that "death is not death" but a passage and you will move further on your way in an instant.


In either case, our brains learn faster than an AI so there's always better answer to life coming through tomorrow.

[ebikethetransport]

That's really great and positive. I guess I'm worried about it. I'm not worried about my destination, but rather I'm not sure about the process. I don't consider myself a particularly good person. For example, I eat the flesh of other beings. But I do my best to bless whatever shows up in my path. Even animals. I feed them whenever I can.


The truth is, I remember the days when I was a whole light being: photosynthetic. I guess I miss those days.


(I'm tryin' to get back home.)

[DustOff72]

In 2007 due to a motorcycle accident I spent 30+ days in a coma and had what I consider to have been a near death experience. When it came time to come back to this world, a part of me did not want to. I wanted to move on to the next level. The lesson for me is that whatever is next, it is better than this we're in.

[HopSan]

In 2007 due to a motorcycle accident I spent 30+ days in a coma and had what I consider to have been a near death experience. When it came time to come back to this world, a part of me did not want to. I wanted to move on to the next level. The lesson for me is that whatever is next, it is better than this we're in.

Thanks Dustoff, really interesting!

My wife (died a year ago) was a bit as you described. Did not seem to want to live, although not at all depressed, weak or old. Knew that I understood. As if her job was done.

My job, on the other hand, is not done -- at all. I have prepared for this phase for decades.

I don't know what follows -- but it is not my time.

[Craig]

I lost a very very dear friend at the start of the month, still at times find myself forgetting that and then hits me again, I feel I have lost part of my spark of life, everything seems darker now, I take offense that the world keeps turning and forcing me to join it, he was an extraordinary man, didn't explore the esoteric like me and I guess that is why I am feeling the way i am currently, death doesn't scare me, the act of dying does especially if drawn out and painful. I have read many things on what happens afterwards from soul traps, instant reincarnation and so on, and prior to this month I was adamant that I hated the very idea of coming back here again, now I have resigned myself to having no input and I am merely a speck of nothingness in an even larger sea of nothing, a plaything for those more powerful and hidden than I

I'm tired

[HopSan]

I lost a very very dear friend at the start of the month, still at times find myself forgetting that and then hits me again, I feel I have lost part of my spark of life, everything seems darker now, I take offense that the world keeps turning and forcing me to join it, he was an extraordinary man, didn't explore the esoteric like me and I guess that is why I am feeling the way i am currently, death doesn't scare me, the act of dying does especially if drawn out and painful. I have read many things on what happens afterwards from soul traps, instant reincarnation and so on, and prior to this month I was adamant that I hated the very idea of coming back here again, now I have resigned myself to having no input and I am merely a speck of nothingness in an even larger sea of nothing, a plaything for those more powerful and hidden than I

I'm tired

Craig, here something positive, my current understanding-by-pain:

1. As you say, we seem to be a play-thing in a humongous game.

2. I was born here as 'me', and I still recognize the earliest memories as me. I know now more, but that's it. I am continuing a 'project' before my current life.

3. Seems like we come here from somewhere, fully formed, live a short life, and go back 'there'. Nothing valuable ever disappears.

4. The shortness of life -- makes it 'unforgivable' to delve too long in sadness. I have done it many times, and most of it seems now like wasted time. Instead, every laugh ever seems to be a win, worth remembering.

5. The most valuable thing that we can do is learn and grow. That is an achievement, and stays with us -- forever.

[Frankie Pancakes]

I don't care for it and hope the feeling is mutual.