The Book of Judas

[ebikethetransport]

What do you think of this? (I'm a busy researchers. This wasn't written by me, but I agree.)



The relevant passage from the Gospel of Judas can be found in the translation by Marvin Meyer or in the critical edition edited by Rodolphe Kasser, Marvin Meyer, and Gregor Wurst.

Specific Passage:

In the Gospel of Judas, Jesus criticizes the disciples’ misunderstanding of true spirituality and their practices of prayer and sacrifice. A notable passage occurs in Codex Tchacos, Section 40-41, where Jesus says:
"Stop sacrificing... to your god. You do not know the one who made you, and you are worshiping your god as if he is the true God."
This critique is part of a larger rebuke in which Jesus suggests that their worship practices serve a lesser, ignorant deity (interpreted in Gnostic thought as the demiurge) rather than the transcendent God.

[He also busted out laughing at them.]


The text emphasizes that spiritual insight (gnosis), rather than traditional religious practices, is the path to salvation. I put forth that whomever prays is damned. (I do so because prayer is based on faith and not mindfulness.)


What do you think?

[Johan (Keyholder)]

Welcome to the Avalon Forum Ebike!

It is a very good quote and I would say "essential knowledge" to get out of this BIP (Black Iron Prison) as P K Dick named it.

All information found in the Nag Hammadi is very well worth reading and studying.
PK Dick and CG Jung were a few of the last real gnostics (though they would possibly not admit that very easily).
When you read Jung's "Seven Sermons to the Dead" it becomes very obvious that Jung was indeed a gnostic.

Besides the Gospel of Judas, there also are:

Gospel of Philip
Gospel of Thomas
Gospel of Mary Magdalene
Gospel of Truth

and also the Apocryphon of John.

These all were "removed" from biblical texts through the Church. Gnostics were considered heretics... and persecuted.

Personally I consider these gospels and gnosticism in general, one of the best sources of spiritual information.
There are however hundreds types of gnosticism; not all are original in my opinion.
Not always easy to read or study, it certainly requires some effort.
But when you do, it will give positive results.

Glad that you brought this subject up Ebike!

[norman]

What do you think?

I think the first step towards salvation, for a Gnostic, might be to contemplate what the word repentance really means.

I think gnosis, as in the way Gnostics expound on it at least, is a defiance of repentance and a slightly sneaky under the radar form of self godhood Luciferianism.

I sense you didn't have that intention tho' but words are sticky and they can mess us up.

[ebikethetransport]

Hi. Could you be more specific? What are you referencing exactly?
I'm asking for people's opinion.

[arjunaloka_official]

What do you think?
I think the first step towards salvation, for a Gnostic, might be to contemplate what the word repentance really means.


Fully right norman! Many gnostics outsource responsibility to an external force, the Demiurge. This is one step towards the right direction, but it takes more steps: they identify that there is a problem in the world - that part of the analysis is correct. What then needs to follow is the insight that nobody but you created that problem - this is very hard to accept for most people. You then need to heal and redeem it by accepting that you caused it and change your way of life.

[Docim369]

What do you think?
I think the first step towards salvation, for a Gnostic, might be to contemplate what the word repentance really means.


Fully right norman! Many gnostics outsource responsibility to an external force, the Demiurge. This is one step towards the right direction, but it takes more steps: they identify that there is a problem in the world - that part of the analysis is correct. What then needs to follow is the insight that nobody but you created that problem - this is very hard to accept for most people. You then need to heal and redeem it by accepting that you caused it and change your way of life.

I believe this is going in the right direction.
From the book Christ the Eternal Tao it is written: "Repentance means much more than regret. In it's original Greek form - metanoia it literaly means to change the spirit (nous), to purify the eye of the soul."

[ebikethetransport]

Yes. I've understood it as doing a 180 degree turn.

[RickSyzer]

Yes. This is how Jesus and Juda, get ok each other's so one betray the other. The duality seems "omni-present" between evil and light. The test was : Betray me and a test might begin : Will humanity follow the real god, or will it follow the Evil god, which is the demiurge creator in my own opinion (Draconis, fallen elohim and many others species)

We would spend time on altered texts religions and would avoid spirituality. If avoiding spirituality, we dodge about how to set the humanity free.. They did create Nephilim who led to Noé flood's, and Jesus already knows he is also Lucifer..
Simply because if we follow the law of "One", We are both Jesus and Lucifer in the futur.

Lucifer name provides from the fact he were still angel, and Satan could be related in my own opinion to the fact he was then fallen and sendt into Hades Pit, to rule on it.

This is a question of physic and parallel universes, where we have a version of ourself but different each times. (Note this is only my opinion)

I love how "Thecosmosdawn" with Thuban elder councils members did try to explain the ultimate truth however, there is also manipulation from draconis entities that could set-up fake avatars or fake explainations.. sadly