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T Smith
28th February 2025, 13:07
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I find it almost impossible to believe that Trump put this (Gaza video) on his, Truth Page (which I do not follow). I can only conclude it is a hoax which serves to vilify. ...umm...the bearded full breasted skirt wearing dancers were a give away, don't you think?. I also think this part of the world could readily be transformed with an injection of cash. A good or bad thing? Time will tell.

Also, what appears to be a cocktail--or pint of beer--Trump is enjoying: also a give away. Trump doesn't drink. Now, if it would have been a diet coke.... I would have issued a double take

Merkaba360
28th February 2025, 13:32
Yea Jaybee, its really a mind f. lol

On the one hand I see some of Hedges points. I don't doubt that Musk and Trump will profit much from their power, but if they are saving trillion per year, jesus how is that not way better than the dark occult ritual sickos stealing all the money to push weirdo chaos and plunge America as fast as possible.

what makes sense to me is that the Eugenicists and satanic death cults or whatever would be on the same team and dems make way more sense for their team and the pervert world they want. they hate humans and want death. Destroy America and people. Abuse them for their fun on their way out.

Thats why i'm wondering if this really is the "epstein, diddy" faction who want to take down america to bring in the 4th Industrialization Revolution (NWO), vs. a faction who appreciates their homeland and want a strong America during the transition. It sure doesn't seem like Trump and Elon are trafficking. Biden is definitely part of that group putting babies feet in his mouth and other creepy stuff.

Some pretty accurate seers are saying that the trafficking things must and will come to the surface in the not too far future. Not sure if they said Trump and team will trigger that. If so, then that could be the battle and this rich greedy Trump team arent cool with those who cross such dark forbidden lines (likely since his kids are not all screwed up like say bidens). A good way to win by exposing all that and watch the public go wild. Imagine the support then.

From this perspective, then I am thrilled to have greedy efficient corporate businessmen steering the ship if we can end the worst faction possible. They are targeting the cartels who are obviously involved in that market. Look what they do to people.

Musk is encouraging more breeding. That helps us get to space and explore the beyond. Even if he is super greedy and selfish and power hungry, he wants us to thrive for his scifi wonders. Unless he plans to replace us with robots completely, but Im not worried about that as I think the people, our spiritual awakening and ET's will deal with that. Once there are robots walking around or policing/soldiers, people are gonna be crapping their pants. That has to set off alarm bells for many to finally unplug from the matrix.

Even if the new guard is super greedy corporate goons, they are WAY more efficient and productive which would still create more wealth for all even if they get the biggest slices of the pie. Its the consciousness awakening that will fix the greed problem. I bet it will sneak in one day upon hitting critical mass and we will feel a bit more connected to Source and people will feel a bit more like we are all on an X pill or something. lol That state makes your heart feel warmer and want to give more.

Yea its annoying how one sided people are and don't weigh things properly in perspective. Its not even possible to be POTUS and deal with a million people from 100s of power groups full of selfish greedy and psycho people, and expect them to be squeaky clean. Literally impossible. You have to make a million decisions and many of them somebody will be harmed either choice. Debating people is annoying cuz they think like poor people that barely have truly hard decisions. Leaders are in a world we cant imagine and the pressures are insane and dangerous.

I try to zoom out and look at the overall picture of where things are heading. Zooming in on a few shady things doesn't mean you can conclude this leader is a bad man.

FWIW, the handful of the best seers ive boiled down are ALL skeptical of Trump and Elon and dont trust them. Yet, a few are calling Trump the great disruptor, not the true fix. And by 2030 -2032 things will be much better. They are all basically calling them Grey Jedis. Part of the "in crowd" but deviating from them in some ways. Perhaps , at the right moment Trump will back stab them in a huge way for some differing opinion. Afterall, if that bullet was real, then he probably does believe in a higher power. This couldve really changed him and one day compel him to do something heroic.

jaybee
28th February 2025, 16:29
Yea Jaybee, its really a mind f. lol


indeed :)

but satisfying - enjoyable even to try and work it all out....:sherlock:



I try to zoom out and look at the overall picture of where things are heading. Zooming in on a few shady things doesn't mean you can conclude this leader is a bad man.

{post snipped see #502}



Agreed - without a handle on the Big Picture the smaller pieces don't mean much....

SilentFeathers
28th February 2025, 17:44
Zelenski _Trump Meeting disaster

They are arguing beyond belief on national TV and this is spiraling out of control.
The arguing starts towards the end of this press meeting.
This is a disaster.

This is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

h3WD9CUNgEE

Eric J (Viking)
28th February 2025, 18:55
Yes Silentfeathers more here…I agree unbelievable… Zelensky IMO has fallen into a trap and exposed himself as an absolute scrounger.

As from now peace talks have now been cancelled… Zelensky… your move.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cdel2npwe50o


Donald Trump told Volodymyr Zelensky to “come back when he is ready for peace” after a White House meeting between the two leaders descended into a shouting match.

The two leaders were meant to have a bilateral meeting behind closed doors after their Oval Office exchange but the Ukrainian president left the White House after falling out with the US president in front of reporters.

A press conference between the two men has been cancelled.

Mr Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform: “I have determined that President Zelenskyy is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations.

“I don’t want advantage, I want PEACE. He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready for Peace.”

Tensions flared in the Oval Office after JD Vance, the vice president, and Mr Trump accused Mr Zelensky of being ungrateful for US military aid.

Mr Trump told the Ukrainian president he was “gambling with World War Three” as their meeting became heated. Meanwhile, Mr Vance asked: “have you said thank you once?”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/02/28/zelensky-trump-meeting-white-house-us/

SilentFeathers
28th February 2025, 19:42
Yes Silentfeathers more here…I agree unbelievable… Zelensky IMO has fallen into a trap and exposed himself as an absolute scrounger.

As from now peace talks have now been cancelled… Zelensky… your move.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cdel2npwe50o


Donald Trump told Volodymyr Zelensky to “come back when he is ready for peace” after a White House meeting between the two leaders descended into a shouting match.

The two leaders were meant to have a bilateral meeting behind closed doors after their Oval Office exchange but the Ukrainian president left the White House after falling out with the US president in front of reporters.

A press conference between the two men has been cancelled.

Mr Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform: “I have determined that President Zelenskyy is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations.

“I don’t want advantage, I want PEACE. He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready for Peace.”

Tensions flared in the Oval Office after JD Vance, the vice president, and Mr Trump accused Mr Zelensky of being ungrateful for US military aid.

Mr Trump told the Ukrainian president he was “gambling with World War Three” as their meeting became heated. Meanwhile, Mr Vance asked: “have you said thank you once?”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/02/28/zelensky-trump-meeting-white-house-us/

Yes, this is quite a disaster for sure, Zelensky will probably run straight to Macron and Starmer and try to get more money and weapons.

This is pretty bad for the people of Ukraine, Putin will likely ramp things up over there now.

This argument really shouldn't of happened the way it did in front of everyone but it did. Regardless, it did show the world that Zelensky is not serious about any kind of deal, that's what I took from it.

This is not good no matter what angle you view it from.....

Did You See Them
28th February 2025, 19:49
He wants nukes ?

Eric J (Viking)
28th February 2025, 19:52
Full exchange Trump/Zelenskyy here…


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch0q31cfEIQ?si=uQcsW5QW_CT-RajP

Eric J (Viking)
28th February 2025, 19:55
He wants nukes ?

Trump doesn’t want nukes…he’s playing the game.

Zelensky is playing draughts with a grand master at chess.

Mark (Star Mariner)
28th February 2025, 20:02
The grovelling has begun:

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https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1895555315716014324
Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
Thank you America, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit. Thank you @POTUS
, Congress, and the American people.
Ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that.

thepainterdoug
28th February 2025, 20:29
With the Biden one world gov nipple removed, Zelensky has to now catch himself and re calibrate to the realities of the Trump admin

lets see how this goes

SilentFeathers
28th February 2025, 20:31
The grovelling has begun:

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https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1895555315716014324
Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
Thank you America, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit. Thank you @POTUS
, Congress, and the American people.
Ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that.

The Biden Administration/Democrats (and several Republicans) and the woke idiots in the EU created a monster. Zelensky thinks he is absolutely entitled, he knows he will be totally irrelevant without this war continuing.

Eric J (Viking)
28th February 2025, 21:19
Looks like Zelenskyy on his way out…

BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.

https://x.com/CilComLFC/status/1895562770348982370
1895562770348982370

More here

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=251995

Rizotto
28th February 2025, 21:37
If this is what 7D chess looks like, I think the high road taken by Russian politicians is much preferable.

Considering that it was the USA deep state that started the Ukraine war in 2014, and continued it thanks to Boris Johnson's meddling in March 2022, it's fair to conclude that neither Zelensky nor Trump should be arguing about who's right or wrong. Trump should simply stop sending weapons to Ukraine, withdraw all USA troops from Europe, and get out of NATO. But instead he's trying to extract minerals from Ukraine, minerals which are now on Russia's side. Is Trump not aware that this would only inflame the war?

Jaak
28th February 2025, 23:02
If this is what 7D chess looks like, I think the high road taken by Russian politicians is much preferable.

Considering that it was the USA deep state that started the Ukraine war in 2014, and continued it thanks to Boris Johnson's meddling in March 2022, it's fair to conclude that neither Zelensky nor Trump should be arguing about who's right or wrong. Trump should simply stop sending weapons to Ukraine, withdraw all USA troops from Europe, and get out of NATO. But instead he's trying to extract minerals from Ukraine, minerals which are now on Russia's side. Is Trump not aware that this would only inflame the war?

Since USA started all this mess then they should pay to Ukraine for all the damages . Never going to happen ofc .
One of the reasons behind this war starting with Maidan coup was to take over the energy market of EU from which Russia was making more than Billion a day from selling energy to EU . In my country we aint allowed to use our own resources anymore because it aint ¨green¨ , some powerplants got dismantled and sent to Ukraine where they of course got blown up . Estonia built some new plants that run of liquid gas from USA . Not allowed to buy cheap energy from Russia . Instead what energy Estonia is generating gets sold cheaply to some neighbouring countries while they buy back expensive energy from them ( jew mafia runs Estonia and its energy sector ).
Right after Maidan Ukraines gas was all sold to Burisma (Hunter Biden and gang) who sold it back to Ukraine with double the price . It was one of the conditions of IMF 15 billion loan to Ukraine that was forced upon them.
Alot of their farmland and resources got sold or was given to US corporations during the war and now Trump demands more . Instead they should pay for the damages done to Ukraine but Trump aint here to do what is right but what profits most this international jewish mafia.
Both USA and Russia will walk out of this war with profit while Ukraine has lost millions of people (both dead and who ran away to other countries) and their resources ... Also most of this billions that USA had spent on Ukraine went probably straight to the bank accounts of Raytheon and other weapon manufacturers .

This whole Trumps tantrum that EU and NATO has to put more resources into this war = EU need to buy more weapons from USA , make more money for Black Rock and other jew mafia corporations.
Rebuilding Ukraine is also big business from which USA seeks to profit , just like they seem to be aiming to do with Gaza .

How much so called aid/money has USA given to Israel ? Why aint Trump demanding none of that back ?

thepainterdoug
1st March 2025, 00:05
After seeing Zelenski on Bret Baer this evening I actually saw him in better light than this afternoons dust up with DJT. He made his case and held his ground, not apologizing for his showing.
This is not saying I endorse him, but he remained consistent to his principals.

At the end of the day, the shame of it all is the number of young teenage boys who will never see their own realizations. This war is a crime and a disgrace and should be stopped asap.

SilentFeathers
1st March 2025, 00:16
After seeing Zelenski on Bret Baer this evening I actually saw him in better light than this afternoons dust up with DJT. He made his case and held his ground, not apologizing for his showing.
This is not saying I endorse him, but he remained consistent to his principals.

At the end of the day, the shame of it all is the number of young teenage boys who will never see their own realizations. This war is a crime and a disgrace and should be stopped asap.

I just watched that and he strangely seemed basically unaffected by what happened.

I still think he made a huge mistake today.

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bojancan
1st March 2025, 00:23
If I may... I already added the same video with The Duran/Alexsanders in other thread... Ukraine/Russia...
I added also few my notes there .. so here is a very interesting video...

The Duran: Zelensky HUMILIATED by Trump, Melts Down After TRAIN WRECK Deal Hands Putin Victory
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Satori
1st March 2025, 00:29
After seeing Zelenski on Bret Baer this evening I actually saw him in better light than this afternoons dust up with DJT. He made his case and held his ground, not apologizing for his showing.
This is not saying I endorse him, but he remained consistent to his principals.

At the end of the day, the shame of it all is the number of young teenage boys who will never see their own realizations. This war is a crime and a disgrace and should be stopped asap.

I just watched that and he strangely seemed basically unaffected by what happened.

I still think he made a huge mistake today.

GfqLcBwUT_E

Zelenskyy (however his name is spelled) is a coke head, demented, pissant tyrant.

bojancan
1st March 2025, 00:31
If this is what 7D chess looks like, I think the high road taken by Russian politicians is much preferable.

Considering that it was the USA deep state that started the Ukraine war in 2014, and continued it thanks to Boris Johnson's meddling in March 2022, it's fair to conclude that neither Zelensky nor Trump should be arguing about who's right or wrong. Trump should simply stop sending weapons to Ukraine, withdraw all USA troops from Europe, and get out of NATO. But instead he's trying to extract minerals from Ukraine, minerals which are now on Russia's side. Is Trump not aware that this would only inflame the war?

Since USA started all this mess then they should pay to Ukraine for all the damages . Never going to happen ofc .
One of the reasons behind this war starting with Maidan coup was to take over the energy market of EU from which Russia was making more than Billion a day from selling energy to EU . In my country we aint allowed to use our own resources anymore because it aint ¨green¨ , some powerplants got dismantled and sent to Ukraine where they of course got blown up . Estonia built some new plants that run of liquid gas from USA . Not allowed to buy cheap energy from Russia . Instead what energy Estonia is generating gets sold cheaply to some neighbouring countries while they buy back expensive energy from them ( jew mafia runs Estonia and its energy sector ).
Right after Maidan Ukraines gas was all sold to Burisma (Hunter Biden and gang) who sold it back to Ukraine with double the price . It was one of the conditions of IMF 15 billion loan to Ukraine that was forced upon them.
Alot of their farmland and resources got sold or was given to US corporations during the war and now Trump demands more . Instead they should pay for the damages done to Ukraine but Trump aint here to do what is right but what profits most this international jewish mafia.
Both USA and Russia will walk out of this war with profit while Ukraine has lost millions of people (both dead and who ran away to other countries) and their resources ... Also most of this billions that USA had spent on Ukraine went probably straight to the bank accounts of Raytheon and other weapon manufacturers .

This whole Trumps tantrum that EU and NATO has to put more resources into this war = EU need to buy more weapons from USA , make more money for Black Rock and other jew mafia corporations.
Rebuilding Ukraine is also big business from which USA seeks to profit , just like they seem to be aiming to do with Gaza .

How much so called aid/money has USA given to Israel ? Why aint Trump demanding none of that back ?

I utterly agree with your words above... If I may also add some words..
I am European.. living there for few months every year... and I am following some articles and channel there too... alternative too.
I remember, I red years years ago about making in the middle of EU New big Jerusalem... Israel... so.. in Ukraine.. I think it's not needed much more words here! Thank you!

Bill Ryan
1st March 2025, 00:34
If I may... I already added the same video with The Duran/Alexsanders in other thread... Ukraine/Russia...
I added also few my notes there .. so here is a very interesting video...

The Duran: Zelensky HUMILIATED by Trump, Melts Down After TRAIN WRECK Deal Hands Putin Victory
uBVAm2nnptUJust a helpful note here. Yes, it's excellent (as Duran videos always are), but it's a shortened/edited version of the same conversation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnP-oPF_TgM) that Danny Haiphong livestreamed a couple of days ago, an hour and a half long.

So the video title here — Zelensky HUMILIATED by Trump, Melts Down — is NOT about the catastrophic televised Oval Office meeting that happened today. It was recorded before that took place.

rgray222
1st March 2025, 02:04
Since USA started all this mess then they should pay to Ukraine for all the damages

There is so much blame to go around for this unholy war that if you throw a rock in any direction, it would hit a guilty party. If you don't think that China has a manipulative hand in this, then you are denying some of the hard facts staring you in the face. While Putin is a key player he is also a very guilty party. China is a principal, and Zelensky is nothing more than a pawn. This war could never have been sustained without China buying Russian goods and Russian oil at deep discounts and the EU and US feeding weapons and cash to Ukraine. Ultimately, you have to ask yourself who has the most to gain.

The ultimate goal here is to put Russia in decline, which is not going to happen through immigration, so the only avenue open is war. The other goal here is to destroy or put the USA in decline, and that may have already happened (we don't know yet) through unfettered immigration. The global one world game has been on for quite a few years now, and you have to view everything in that light and constantly ask yourself who has the most to gain.

norman
1st March 2025, 03:47
Alex Jones has a very illuminating ( and encouraging ) way of describing the situation.

I've only listened to 10 minutes of this so far and I recommend y'all do the same.

Alex Jones 2025-Feb-28 Friday (https://podbay.fm/p/the-alex-jones-show-infowarscom/e/1740780000)

Rawhide68
1st March 2025, 07:39
Clip of time that I found making sense

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Docim369
1st March 2025, 08:02
Clip of time that I found making sense

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This seems like acting to me. We know Zelensky was an actor in the past. Why could he not still be one?

jaybee
1st March 2025, 09:37
This seems like acting to me. We know Zelensky was an actor in the past. Why could he not still be one?

I'd say he is still one - there seems to be a pattern with this kind of thing - Emanuel Macron took drama classes when his future partner Brigitte was the teacher - and Justin Trudeau was a teacher and one of his main subjects was drama... that's just 3 of the installed Globalist 'leaders' .... Starmer, PM of the UK was a lawyer and lawyers have to act / perform in court - so there are similarities there...

wouldn't be surprised if more Western 'leaders' had past connections to drama, teaching and the law...

jaybee
1st March 2025, 09:44
Alex Jones has a very illuminating ( and encouraging ) way of describing the situation.

I've only listened to 10 minutes of this so far and I recommend y'all do the same.

Alex Jones 2025-Feb-28 Friday (https://podbay.fm/p/the-alex-jones-show-infowarscom/e/1740780000)


thanks for linking to that podcast - I was having a restless night and listened to it early morning -

it was good to share these latest developments with Alex.... a larger than life, force of nature :-)

his analysis and emotional responses were like something straight out of a Shakespeare Play - a mixture of pure theatre - highly intelligent analysis and heart felt joy at the events taking place -

great stuff...

:thumbsup:

Mikeyboy
1st March 2025, 15:39
Clip of time that I found making sense

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This seems like acting to me. We know Zelensky was an actor in the past. Why could he not still be one?

I totally agree with you. But they should have gone to better drama class as the acting was quite poor.

TrumanCash
1st March 2025, 16:52
Watch the Full 50-Minute Press Conference Video Featuring President Trump and Zelensky

Although many people have seen the contentious part of the Zelensky/Trump/Vance meeting in the Oval Office, here is the full video of the meeting:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe0ntgfpq4&t=687s

TrumanCash
1st March 2025, 17:04
These Red States Have All Launched Their Own DOGE Task Forces as Elon Musk’s Efficiency Drive Spreads Nationwide

Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is expanding beyond the federal government.

According to Newsmax, Republican governors and lawmakers in Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, and Wisconsin are following the lead of the federal government and set up their own efficiency taskforces aimed at cutting government waste.

Among those is Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who has set up a “DOGE task force” to audit spending, reduce bureaucracy, and eliminate any remaining diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs.

“I am requiring state agencies to utilize AI [artificial intelligence] as a way to supplement our ongoing efforts to produce streamlined and cost-effective government,” DeSantis wrote on X earlier this week.

“Federal DOGE efforts have demonstrated the power of cutting edge technology, and I look forward to Florida’s DOGE task force doing even more for taxpayers.”

Over in Texas, Republican lawmakers have established their own 13-member bipartisan Delivery of Government Efficiency, which will work to remove “inefficiencies” from across the state government.

In Iowa, Gov. Kim Reynolds has similarly confirmed the launch of her own DOGE committee.

Many other states have announced similar programs, all of which are intended to reduce waste and inefficiency in the use of public funds.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/these-red-states-have-all-launched-their-own/

bojancan
1st March 2025, 17:11
I was thinking quite a lot... about yesterday happening in WH.. also about all what was happening for ten years or more...
The insistence of Trump administration... to plan to acquire Ukrainian natural resources as such a way surprised me and saddened me a lot....sorry!
War with Russia was not just Ukrainian fault... but mostly western countries fault.. primarily US!!!!
They insisted for decades to expand NATO toward Russian border we know and US was/is with that... they were running over 40 laboratories in Ukraine... bioweapons.. child trafficking.. etc.. and not yet in public exposure... Trump and Co... why do not expose about that NOW????
US and allies.. / crazy Boris / also prevented Ukraine from signing already agreed peace treaty with Russia in Istanbul.... specially US kept loading Ukrainians as Israel with weapons and money so that they wouldn’t stop fighting Russians... etc.
Now that Ukraine is very much beaten and destroyed... I am so sad about average people... I know one Ukrainian opera singer, came in Slovenia with their family... mother and father are there...
Ukrainians alone are now in need of a lot of resources to rebuild... but US wants to come in... and steal those very much needed resources...
Am I wrong by calling this kind of behaviour satanic.... I really don’t think so!
Thank you for your attention...

-----


Here is Brian Berletič analyses of yesterday's meeting in White House...

"Brian Berletic" Kalibrated Live
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Rizotto
1st March 2025, 22:01
I completely agree with you Bojacan about your #531 post above. Also to be noted: Zelensky is a puppet hand-picked & trained by the western globalists to do the bidding of the cabal. They picked an actor for obvious reasons. None of them had any real concern for Ukrainians. Their country is now in ruins, half of the land handed over to Black Rock.

It's not only a tragedy, it's an ongoing extertion operation. The Zelensky smackdown by Trump isn't helping, when in the next sentence Trump claims that Ukraine owe $500 billions to USA, which is not true. Zelensky is correct when saying that the USA gave the funds to Ukraine, it wasn't a loan. Although Zelensky is a scoundrel, let's at least give him credit for the rare times he tells the truth. Somehow I got the feeling he may not be among us for much longer...

Here's George Galloway's take on Trump's mindset:

Mad in craft

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyAo11DULrE

Bill Ryan
1st March 2025, 22:18
The insistence of Trump administration... to plan to acquire Ukrainian natural resources as such a way surprised me and saddened me a lot....sorry!That's not correct: the entire proposal for a deal by which US would obtain Ukrainian mineral rights was first suggested by Zelensky. Not by the Trump administration.

SilentFeathers
1st March 2025, 22:27
More fallout from the Trump/Zelensky meeting yesterday. Probably not a smart move by this company.....

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1895896267269808193

SilentFeathers
2nd March 2025, 01:28
Sometimes things are not what they appear to be.

I'm really starting to think we all just witnessed the biggest sting in history and Trump out played everyone....

T Smith
2nd March 2025, 02:26
Sometimes things are not what they appear to be.

I'm really starting to think we all just witnessed the biggest sting in history and Trump out played everyone....

Also, I don't think it was "incidental" or accidental that J.D. Vance chimed in. Trump's message is, if you're thinking about taking out me (again) there is someone on deck--a younger even more articulate version of me--ready and willing to grab the baton to advance the anti-NWO, peace agenda.

SilentFeathers
2nd March 2025, 03:19
Sometimes things are not what they appear to be.

I'm really starting to think we all just witnessed the biggest sting in history and Trump out played everyone....

Also, I don't think it was "incidental" or accidental that J.D. Vance chimed in. Trump's message is, if you're thinking about taking out me (again) there is someone on deck--a younger even more articulate version of me--ready and willing to grab the baton to advance the anti-NWO, peace agenda.

With all this USAID stuff being shut down a bunch and now the Ukraine money laundering machine being turned off, these psychopaths money stream is being choked off.

Then Bondi and Patel are soon to be busting things wide open. This is so big it's hard to comprehend how deep this really is.

This is beyond serious and I'm surprised these criminal lunatics haven't retaliated yet.

I do believe something very ugly is going to happen soon.

Rizotto
2nd March 2025, 07:09
The Zelensky blow up on February 28 provided 100% distraction from the "Trump Gaza" video on Trump's own Truth Social account. Is anybody here aware of any update about that very weird video? (I haven't heard of any.) Is it still on Trump's account? Was Trump's account hacked?

There has been a whirlwind of incidents this week, it almost seems like planned upheaval.

Bill Ryan
2nd March 2025, 08:07
Zelensky is a puppet hand-picked & trained by the western globalists to do the bidding of the cabal. They picked an actor for obvious reasons. None of them had any real concern for Ukrainians.That's 100% correct. The whole Neocon strategy was about destroying Russia, not about supporting or protecting Ukraine.

If anyone in the western alliance cared anything at all about Ukraine and its people, they'd never have permitted this whole thing to start.

The entire thing was a pathological enterprise from the beginning, and it completely fell apart. Everyone in the Kremlin (and in BRICS!) understands this fully.

How much Trump understands is open for discussion, but Vance and others around Trump probably understand it very well. Their whole game plan now is to normalize relations with Russia (a wise move, long overdue). But Putin and his team won't be fooled by anything at all.

jaybee
2nd March 2025, 08:14
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Re the shouting match in the Oval Office - there was more to it than met the eye and when you find out more you can see how the whole thing went seriously pear shaped...


There was quite a long lead up to the meeting of Zelensky and Trump and the Mineral Rights deal that would get the US involved in Ukraine - without being aggressively and militarily involved...


Zelensky was there to sign a deal to do with the mineral rights... but....IMO..... I think the whole thing hit a 'Boris Johnson' moment - and those behind the scenes telling Zelensky what to do (Globalists, NATO, EU) said....NO....kill it off we don't want Peace we want the war to carry on... (with the hopes of somehow defeating Russia in the future?)

So Zelensky went in to stop the whole thing in it's tracks by provoking Trump + Vance and performing in front of the world's press... press who will gladly use it if they can to stoke up Trump Derangement Syndrome -

But Trump and Vance were having none of it and Zelensky was sent packing - but he achieved what he set out to do and scuppered the Peace Plan - kicked it as far into the long grass as he could knowing that he would be lauded and applauded by those who don't want Peace and don't want the killing to stop..... and indeed that's what happened - the warmonger's guy came through and avoided Peace... :/

Apparently he had a meeting with Democrats and others before going to the Oval Office - they were probably egging him on to try and get one over on Trump but he (Zelensky) was put in his place in no uncertain terms -

Maybe Lindsay Graham was part of a group of Globalist sympathizers persuading Zelensky to pull out of the Mineral Rights deal.... then he realised that Zelensky had blown it (even though he achieved what they wanted him to)... and to save his own skin went public praising Trump and criticizing Zelensky - ?

anyway - this is a good interview with Marco Rubio for anyone interested - the CNN interviewer was annoying - blinking away and oozing passive aggression - but he handled her well :)


'You Don't See All The Things That Led Up To This': Rubio Defends Trump After Clash With Zelensky (18:27)


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SilentFeathers
2nd March 2025, 13:11
We are absolutely witnessing a giant chunk of history being written right in front of our eyes right now.

It's truly amazing what just transpired relating to Ukraine and what is unfolding in other areas.

These anti-human global elites and deranged deep state operatives are so blinded by their hatred for Trump that they just continue to self destruct and spiral into the abyss.

I'm 99% certain Trump just out foxed and out played them all and those globalist dirtbags are too full of arrogance and hatred to ever see it or ever to admit to it.

Starmer is a perfect example of a psychotic duped fool. The EU is doomed. Orban and Meloni seem to be the only two in power over there that has a functioning brain in their head.

I hope Trump has everything in place and prepared for these lunatics to retaliate, they may be blinded by hatred but they remain extremely dangerous and capable of great evil.

Eric J (Viking)
2nd March 2025, 16:37
https://namastepublishing.co.uk/full-body-language-analysis-of-trump-and-zelenskyys-meltdown/

".......The following video provides background details to the meeting followed by an analysis ofthe body language of both Zelensky and Trump. This is both interesting and very revealing as it exposes Zelensky and completely vindicates Trump. It should serve as an eye opener to all sleep walkers and anyone who has doubts about the meeting at the White house.

The public are being played like a violin into accepting the possibility of a world war situation by the satanic deep state, using their puppeteer Zelensky in order to maintain control and stop the landslide of their demise into the abyss. The fire is raging, the temperature is about to escalate and they cannot stop it..."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLTvIEIPhiY

SilentFeathers
2nd March 2025, 17:45
https://namastepublishing.co.uk/full-body-language-analysis-of-trump-and-zelenskyys-meltdown/

".......The following video provides background details to the meeting followed by an analysis ofthe body language of both Zelensky and Trump. This is both interesting and very revealing as it exposes Zelensky and completely vindicates Trump. It should serve as an eye opener to all sleep walkers and anyone who has doubts about the meeting at the White house.
The public are being played like a violin into accepting the possibility of a world war situation by the satanic deep state, using their puppeteer Zelensky in order to maintain control and stop the landslide of their demise into the abyss. The fire is raging, the temperature is about to escalate and they cannot stop it..."

This video is a good breakdown of the whole Zelensky/Trump meeting.

It's so obvious to those without TDS and extreme hatred towards Trump that Zelensky derailed this whole event.

The unmasking of that demonic weasel was surreal. The whole world seen it!

Bill Ryan
2nd March 2025, 18:03
It's so obvious to those without TDS and extreme hatred towards Trump that Zelensky derailed this whole event.

The unmasking of that demonic weasel was surreal. The whole world seen it!There's also this: :)

https://rt.com/news/613507-vance-trump-zelensky-ukraine
(https://rt.com/news/613507-vance-trump-zelensky-ukraine)
Did Zelensky call Vance a ‘b*tch’?

The Ukrainian leader was caught on a hot mic apparently cursing at the US vice president

Multiple social media users have claimed that Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky was overheard swearing in Russian during a heated exchange with US President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance in the Oval Office.​

Zelensky’s visit to the White House on Friday was abruptly cut short after his meeting with Trump and Vance devolved into a shouting match in front of the media. The two US officials accused the Ukrainian leader of “gambling with World War III” due to his reluctance to negotiate peace with Russia, and of being disrespectful and ungrateful for the substantial military aid provided to Kiev by Washington.​

During the intense discussion, Vance highlighted Ukraine’s challenges in conscripting additional troops and suggested that Ukraine should be “thanking” Trump for efforts to resolve the conflict between Moscow and Kiev.​

In response, Zelensky questioned how the vice president could understand Ukraine’s issues without having visited the country.​

Vance replied that foreign leaders visiting Kiev are subjected to “propaganda tours” orchestrated by the government.​

Footage from the meeting shows Zelensky at one point looking away during Vance’s remarks and muttering a few words to himself, with his microphone still on.​

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1895558750502863031
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Although his words are not clearly audible, several Russian and Western social media accounts have suggested that Zelensky said, ‘suka, blyad’. This vulgar Russian phrase, popularized globally as ‘cyka blyat’ by gamers and internet users, can be roughly translated as ‘b*tch whore’ or ‘b*tch, f**king hell’.

The expression is often used not as a direct insult but to convey frustration or anger. It is also common in Ukrainian and sounds nearly identical.

Moemers
2nd March 2025, 18:19
Zelensky/Vance cagematch when?

SilentFeathers
2nd March 2025, 18:21
Although his words are not clearly audible, several Russian and Western social media accounts have suggested that Zelensky said, ‘suka, blyad’. This vulgar Russian phrase, popularized globally as ‘cyka blyat’ by gamers and internet users, can be roughly translated as ‘b*tch whore’ or ‘b*tch, f**king hell’.

The expression is often used not as a direct insult but to convey frustration or anger. It is also common in Ukrainian and sounds nearly identical.

If it's verified that Zelensky did mutter that I doubt he'll ever be allowed in the Whitehouse again. Trump may of already made that decision already regardless.

This was a true disaster, one more likely to happen between two enemies rather than a partner in a war that we've basically saved from annihilation.

It's amazing following this since this meeting and seeing Zelensky run directly to the UK and scooping up another 3 billion and a long term support contract and rambling on with his mouth like what happened in DC was no big deal. It's quite astonishing really. He then goes to an EU summit and is praised and showcased like a rock star and is all smiles and happy go lucky. It's absolutely insane from my perspective.

I think we may see the collapse of the EU.

onevoice
2nd March 2025, 20:47
Although his words are not clearly audible, several Russian and Western social media accounts have suggested that Zelensky said, ‘suka, blyad’. This vulgar Russian phrase, popularized globally as ‘cyka blyat’ by gamers and internet users, can be roughly translated as ‘b*tch whore’ or ‘b*tch, f**king hell’.

The expression is often used not as a direct insult but to convey frustration or anger. It is also common in Ukrainian and sounds nearly identical.

If it's verified that Zelensky did mutter that I doubt he'll ever be allowed in the Whitehouse again. Trump may of already made that decision already regardless.

This was a true disaster, one more likely to happen between two enemies rather than a partner in a war that we've basically saved from annihilation.

It's amazing following this since this meeting and seeing Zelensky run directly to the UK and scooping up another 3 billion and a long term support contract and rambling on with his mouth like what happened in DC was no big deal. It's quite astonishing really. He then goes to an EU summit and is praised and showcased like a rock star and is all smiles and happy go lucky. It's absolutely insane from my perspective.

I think we may see the collapse of the EU.

It is very obvious that the EU and the USA is on a strategically divergent path. Trump is pursuing strategic path to global peace, even at the risk of being assassinated. He already went through several attempts. Perhaps he is inspired by divine intervention and/or deep personal conviction to do whatever he can to advance global peace. He is a rare leader in our history.

Rizotto
2nd March 2025, 21:41
Isn't the USA distancing from Ukraine for the purpose of placing the focus on USA military assistance to Israel? Fact is, USA couldn't continue to supply both countries.

One of RT's headline today:

"US speeds up arms supplies to Israel"
https://www.rt.com/news/613566-israel-us-weapons-emergency/

Excertp:

"US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has signed a declaration to expedite the delivery of approximately $4 billion in military assistance to Israel, calling President Donald Trump the Jewish state’s great ally, according to a statement released on Saturday.
The move is part of the White House’s broader effort to bolster Israel’s military capabilities amid ongoing regional tensions. Since Trump took office on January 20, his administration has reportedly approved nearly $12 billion in major foreign military sales to West Jerusalem."

bojancan
3rd March 2025, 02:03
Just finished watching this video... I think, that trump do not understand half or quoter to his posts... it's all serious?


Trump PUMPS crypto strategic reserve
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T Smith
3rd March 2025, 02:51
Just finished watching this video... I think, that trump do not understand half or quoter to his posts... it's all serious?


Trump PUMPS crypto strategic reserve
jnGtfo_EPAc

"...if you're not familiar with crypto, consider yourself lucky. It's basically a digital ponzi scheme...."

This podcaster doesn't understanding cryptocurrency at all.

bojancan
3rd March 2025, 05:50
Just finished watching this video... I think, that trump do not understand half or quoter to his posts... it's all serious?


Trump PUMPS crypto strategic reserve
jnGtfo_EPAc

"...if you're not familiar with crypto, consider yourself lucky. It's basically a digital ponzi scheme...."

This podcaster doesn't understanding cryptocurrency at all.

Please tel me T Smith... does Trump understand???? Maybe you can enlighten me... all about these Trump coins too...

With all what is going on in these moments... this is nothing that should bother us the most... it's nothing compare what this man is doing to Palestinian ... I am angry and not respectful towards him... It's more dangerous what is happening these moments in the East now... more than in Ukraine...
I went through all new news yesterday and today... it's disgusting and I do not have the words... how can this happening in 21 century.. just listen, what they are saying those trump's puppets..
Rubio and others...

Following very carefully... what is happening in Gaza .. and what they are preparing for these human beings... Palestinians!
This have to be the biggest topic these days... not always giving some excuses for this crazy man... T and B too...

I added video above... because it's a lot of talking and wondering... what is going on with those billions... people lost with Trump meme coins... in my opinion... have to be really Ponzi scam...

I am upset... I went through latest posts in "Gaza Israel thread"... I am so sad ... so sad!!!! I am sorry...

Thank you for reading....

norman
3rd March 2025, 15:04
Alex Jones - Saturday Emergency Broadcast, Massive Developments Since Trump Publicly Destroyed Zelensky

https://rumble.com/v6pyvsu-alex-jones-full-show-saturday-03012025.html?start=58

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norman
3rd March 2025, 16:57
https://t.me/disclosetv/15437
disclosetv/15437

T Smith
3rd March 2025, 17:51
Just finished watching this video... I think, that trump do not understand half or quoter to his posts... it's all serious?


Trump PUMPS crypto strategic reserve
jnGtfo_EPAc

"...if you're not familiar with crypto, consider yourself lucky. It's basically a digital ponzi scheme...."

This podcaster doesn't understanding cryptocurrency at all.

Please tel me T Smith... does Trump understand???? Maybe you can enlighten me... all about these Trump coins too...

With all what is going on in these moments... this is nothing that should bother us the most... it's nothing compare what this man is doing to Palestinian ... I am angry and not respectful towards him... It's more dangerous what is happening these moments in the East now... more than in Ukraine...
I went through all new news yesterday and today... it's disgusting and I do not have the words... how can this happening in 21 century.. just listen, what they are saying those trump's puppets..
Rubio and others...

Following very carefully... what is happening in Gaza .. and what they are preparing for these human beings... Palestinians!
This have to be the biggest topic these days... not always giving some excuses for this crazy man... T and B too...

I added video above... because it's a lot of talking and wondering... what is going on with those billions... people lost with Trump meme coins... in my opinion... have to be really Ponzi scam...

I am upset... I went through latest posts in "Gaza Israel thread"... I am so sad ... so sad!!!! I am sorry...

Thank you for reading....

I can't speak to whether Trump understands crypto or not. A few years ago he himself was saying things similar to what the podcaster was saying. But very smart people in Trump's orbit got in his ear, including his son, Don Jr., and convinced him of the significance of the blockchain and the revolution afoot. This seems to be the trend. People don't seem to understand crypto, until they do. And remember, virtually everybody (who didn't understand it) was saying BTC was a ponzi scheme back in 2013 when it was priced at $75 per coin. One would think the "tulip mania" would have crashed by now, twelve years later, if Bitcoin was truly a ponzi scheme. Also, I'm not speaking about the "meme" coins and those who buy and sell them. One can think of meme/alt coins as "penny stocks." Buying penny stocks may make you rich--if you're a visionary or lucky or both--or it may wipe you out and take the shirt off your back. That's called gambling. But that fact doesn't make investments in stocks (to employ the analogy here) a ponzi scheme.

To each at their own pace of grasping what crypto is, including Wall Street, which is now securitizing cryptocurrency and as a legitimate investment. Next in line will be governments and their Treasuries, which the Trump administration recently announced. So yes, I stand by my statements. The podcaster simply doesn't understand crypto.

You are entitled to be angry and upset about Gaza, but that's an entirely different issue from what I was commenting on.

bojancan
3rd March 2025, 18:19
Just finished watching this video... I think, that trump do not understand half or quoter to his posts... it's all serious?


Trump PUMPS crypto strategic reserve
jnGtfo_EPAc

"...if you're not familiar with crypto, consider yourself lucky. It's basically a digital ponzi scheme...."

This podcaster doesn't understanding cryptocurrency at all.

Please tel me T Smith... does Trump understand???? Maybe you can enlighten me... all about these Trump coins too...

With all what is going on in these moments... this is nothing that should bother us the most... it's nothing compare what this man is doing to Palestinian ... I am angry and not respectful towards him... It's more dangerous what is happening these moments in the East now... more than in Ukraine...
I went through all new news yesterday and today... it's disgusting and I do not have the words... how can this happening in 21 century.. just listen, what they are saying those trump's puppets..
Rubio and others...

Following very carefully... what is happening in Gaza .. and what they are preparing for these human beings... Palestinians!
This have to be the biggest topic these days... not always giving some excuses for this crazy man... T and B too...

I added video above... because it's a lot of talking and wondering... what is going on with those billions... people lost with Trump meme coins... in my opinion... have to be really Ponzi scam...

I am upset... I went through latest posts in "Gaza Israel thread"... I am so sad ... so sad!!!! I am sorry...

Thank you for reading....

I can't speak to whether Trump understands crypto or not. A few years ago he himself was saying things similar to what the podcaster was saying. But very smart people in Trump's orbit got in his ear, including his son, Don Jr., and convinced him of the significance of the blockchain and the revolution afoot. This seems to be the trend. People don't seem to understand crypto, until they do. And remember, virtually everybody (who didn't understand it) was saying BTC was a ponzi scheme back in 2013 when it was priced at $75 per coin. One would think the "tulip mania" would have crashed by now, twelve years later, if Bitcoin was truly a ponzi scheme. Also, I'm not speaking about the "meme" coins and those who buy and sell them. One can think of meme/alt coins as "penny stocks." Buying penny stocks may make you rich--if you're a visionary or lucky or both--or it may wipe you out and take the shirt off your back. That's called gambling. But that fact doesn't make investments in stocks (to employ the analogy here) a ponzi scheme.

To each at their own pace of grasping what crypto is, including Wall Street, which is now securitizing cryptocurrency and as a legitimate investment. Next in line will be governments and their Treasuries, which the Trump administration recently announced. So yes, I stand by my statements. The podcaster simply doesn't understand crypto.

You are entitled to be angry and upset about Gaza, but that's an entirely different issue from what I was commenting on.

Thank you for your explanation T Smith..
I know, that Middle East is other topic than cryptos... so my apologies, that I mentioned it here.. in the same add as crypto...

In my opinion, we are in the thread about work by Trump administration...
I will add so... that everything what we are witnessing regarding Middle East ... is very dangerous.
Not many people are wondering what can happen... it can quickly come out of control... I see the whole situation, also with Trump's help ... deteriorate... towards war with Iran...
I smell it and see it!
Thanks for reading...

Eric J (Viking)
3rd March 2025, 20:02
🤷‍♂️. We’ll see.

BIG BOMBSHELL! TRUMP TEASES EARTH-SHATTERING ANNOUNCEMENT: “TOMORROW NIGHT WILL BE BIG. I WILL TELL IT LIKE IT IS!” GLOBALISTS IN FULL PANIC MODE!

BREAKING: TRUMP’S CRYPTIC MESSAGE SHAKES THE WORLD – “TOMORROW NIGHT WILL BE BIG!” WHAT IS HE ABOUT TO REVEAL?

March 3, 2025 | Washington, D.C. BOOM! President Donald J. Trump just set the world on fire with a mysterious, high-impact message on Truth Social—and the internet is in full meltdown mode.

“TOMORROW NIGHT WILL BE BIG. I WILL TELL IT LIKE IT IS!”
That’s it. That’s all it took for the speculation, theories, and excitement to explode across social media, news networks, and every corner of the internet. Because when Trump speaks, the world listens.

What is coming?

What will he say?

And why is this moment so critical for America and the world?
The Deep State, the media elites, and the globalist establishment are shaking in their boots. Because if Trump is about to drop the biggest truth bomb in modern history, the entire system could be about to change forever.

TRUTH BOMBS LOADING: STAY LOADED… MORE TRUTH BOMBS COMING SOON!

THE WORLD HOLDS ITS BREATH

We are one night away from a moment that could shake America to its core.

Epstein’s secrets revealed?
The dollar and the financial system flipped on its head?
The end of the Ukraine war machine?
**The IRS getting obliterated?
No one knows exactly what Trump will say. But one thing is certain:

WHEN TRUMP SAYS IT’S BIG, IT’S BIG.

Get ready, America. Tomorrow night, history will be made.

ARE YOU READY?

More here

https://amg-news.com/big-bombshell-trump-teases-earth-shattering-announcement-tomorrow-night-will-be-big-i-will-tell-it-like-it-is-globalists-in-full-panic-mode/

Rizotto
3rd March 2025, 20:55
Interesting. As for me, I wonder if Trump will ever provide an explanation for the "Trump Gaza" video posted on his TruthSocial account.

Trump stirs controversy after reposting AI video about Gaza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1cJLgKgEI

SilentFeathers
3rd March 2025, 21:01
Megyn Kelly gives a pretty good analysis on the Zelensky/Trump meeting disaster last Friday.
About 14 minutes into the video she also breaks down how the Democrats may of sabotaged the deal 1 hour before the meeting took place.
She's rather convincing.....

Megyn Kelly Breaks Down Exactly What Zelensky Did to Provoke the Reaction From Trump and Vance
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T Smith
3rd March 2025, 21:50
Interesting. As for me, I wonder if Trump will ever provide an explanation for the "Trump Gaza" video posted on his TruthSocial account.

Trump stirs controversy after reposting AI video about Gaza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1cJLgKgEI

Rizotto, the video was created as satire, by anti-Trump content creators. It was produced, at best, as a joke, or perhaps with a twinge of backhandedness to outrage (but certainly not to promote). I agree it was in bad taste to repost this on Truth Social, but IMO, those outraged by the repost are taking the bait, hook/line/sinker. They're taking the video way too seriously (and don't truly get the joke).

Simply, this video is not a serious vision or proposal.

And yes, it's petty and sophomoric of Trump; but it is what it is, not what it's not. In a typical Trump fashion, DJT has successfully flipped the trigger on those attempting to mock him...

SilentFeathers
4th March 2025, 01:10
This ought to get the Democrats and warmongers riled up!

BREAKING: U.S. pausing all military aid to Ukraine
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bojancan
4th March 2025, 01:13
I changed the video for this thread... it's much more interesting..

David Pakman is having intellectual and progressive topics on his channel... I was listening him for years..
I know, that in the circle around this administration when the conferences are happening... only loyal partisan reporters are welcome to attend..
Where is free speech.??


Trump's Dept of Defense BLOCKED MY SHOW
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Flash
4th March 2025, 04:09
in pounds: 0,03 pounds of fentanil have been caught crossing the Canadian border since early December 24, is Trump kidding, imposing 25% tarif for 0,03 pounds!!! Putin oops Trump could just stop lying. What he wants is to be the king of predators, taking everything for his gang of oligarch Silicon Valley babboons rubbing the regular folks in the US and in the rest of the planet.

And many completely brain washed Avalonians, incapable of changing their ingrained opinions despite blatant proofs, naming themselves awake, wow, I pity humanity.

So lets Putin get Ukraine, Putin share Northern Canada with Trump (yes Trump proposed it to Putin), and have US soldiers and money from Ukraine be diverted to Israel to ethnically kill all Palestinians while ordinary US folks shut their eyes and end up suffering as well in a diminushed war economy thanks to tarifs and war with their past best partner.

You are letting a dictature installed itself worst than the previous dirt, the rest of the world sees it. The only blinds are the Americans.

War, and not just economic one, is coming.

I never thought i would be sooooo disappointed by what is happening. I have a conservative bend to start with but yet, I cannot avert seeing what is going on.

And Ernie, who has emigrated to the deemed socialist Canada who now despised the help he received and behave as a traitor ready to give the country that helped him, as Musk is doing as well - it is Canadian welfare that allowed Musk’s mother to raise his siblings and Canada that help Musk going out of South Africa by giving him foid and lodgment - a traitor as well helping destroy a country he is a citizen of.

No forgiveness allowed here.

US will be destroyed as well, all under the blinding excuses of cleaning the swamp, petty discussions while people lives are literally destroyed on all sides.

T Smith
4th March 2025, 07:17
in pounds: 0,03 pounds of fentanil have been caught crossing the Canadian border since early December 24, is Trump kidding, imposing 25% tarif for 0,03 pounds!!! Putin oops Trump could just stop lying. What he wants is to be the king of predators, taking everything for his gang of oligarch Silicon Valley babboons rubbing the regular folks in the US and in the rest of the planet.

And many completely brain washed Avalonians, incapable of changing their ingrained opinions despite blatant proofs, naming themselves awake, wow, I pity humanity.

So lets Putin get Ukraine, Putin share Northern Canada with Trump (yes Trump proposed it to Putin), and have US soldiers and money from Ukraine be diverted to Israel to ethnically kill all Palestinians while ordinary US folks shut their eyes and end up suffering as well in a diminushed war economy thanks to tarifs and war with their past best partner.

You are letting a dictature installed itself worst than the previous dirt, the rest of the world sees it. The only blinds are the Americans.

War, and not just economic one, is coming.



The U.S. is already at war with China--as in, a clandestine, covert war where the enemy engages in business and diplomacy, with a duplicitous smile, while it secretly aims to destroy, destabilize, and conquer from the shadows.

Put in a more concrete way: China is deliberately flooding the U.S. with fentanyl via Mexico and Canada. This is not an accident. They are explicitly deploying a weapon against North America, and specifically against the population of United States. This fact cannot be understated, IMO.

It is true the majority of fentanyl comes into the United States via the Southern Border, but let's put this in perspective. 50 lbs of fentanyl were nonetheless seized in 2024 at the Canadian border, which is still potentially 11 million lethal doses coming in from the North.. That's just the quantity seized. Who knows how much is getting through? The point is, that number is hardly insignificant, and is only rendered to a convenient statistic by CNN et. al when compared to the fentanyl China is shipping in through Mexico.

The primary culprit/mastermind here is China. The deep-state globalist governments of Mexico and Canada (and United States) are facilitators, enablers, and foot soldiers of the mastermind, either wittingly or unwittingly. So if the agenda is to stop the flow of fentanyl from China--and that appears to be what these tariffs are about--I see policies (unpopular and seemingly unfair though they may be) aimed at checking the facilitators, enablers, and foot soldiers. Also, what good is plugging one hole if you don't plug all the holes--even the smaller ones? Just as with water leaking through a number of cracks in the hull of a boat, when you plug the biggest crack, more water pressure mounts at the smaller cracks. The only way to keep the boat from sinking is to plug all the holes.

So long as Canada maintains lax policies and regulations in regard to chemicals and fentanyl production imported from China (which I believe is the major impetus behind the imposed tariffs) building a fortress and closing the door on the Mexican border will do little good as long as the draft through the back door remains.

I don't want to see these tariffs happen, and yes, they are going to cause hardship and negatively affect innocent lives. And you are absolutely correct the majority of this problem flows from the South so it appears Trump is unfairly targeting Canada. But more to the topic of this thread, why are we not directing as much or more of the blame of this standoff on Trudeau's government for failing to plug its domestic fentanyl problem and production problem coming from China? I ask this sincerely, as it doesn't appear to me, in my limited understanding of the situation, that the government of Canada is doing its part--as an ally, or supposed ally of the United States--to stop the inflow of fentanyl to its own country, and by default, from spilling down into the United States.

In short, I think these tariffs would end immediately if Trudeau (or whoever his handlers are) were serious about erradicating Canada's own fentanyl problem.

SilentFeathers
4th March 2025, 12:29
These Tariffs will absolutely increase inflation. I'm already getting notices of price increases like this one below from several suppliers to my business.
I will have to pass these price increases off to my clients which causes them to have to pay more for my product.


Dear Valued Customer,

President Trump has recently implemented two additional tariff taxes on products entering the country. US businesses bear the costs of these tariffs. The tariffs are as follows:

An additional 10% tariff tax on goods from China, effective February 1, 2025.
An additional 25% tariff on steel and aluminum imports from any country, effective March 12, 2025.
In addition, as we write this note, the administration is considering additional tariffs. If those are implemented, we will incorporate their impact into our reaction.

These tariffs will affect many of the products you purchase from us and your other suppliers. Impacted categories include functional hardware, decorative hardware, organizers, sinks, lighting, and power solutions.

T Smith
4th March 2025, 12:49
These Tariffs will absolutely increase inflation. I'm already getting notices of price increases like this one below from several suppliers to my business.
I will have to pass these price increases off to my clients which causes them to have to pay more for my product.


Dear Valued Customer,

President Trump has recently implemented two additional tariff taxes on products entering the country. US businesses bear the costs of these tariffs. The tariffs are as follows:

An additional 10% tariff tax on goods from China, effective February 1, 2025.
An additional 25% tariff on steel and aluminum imports from any country, effective March 12, 2025.
In addition, as we write this note, the administration is considering additional tariffs. If those are implemented, we will incorporate their impact into our reaction.

These tariffs will affect many of the products you purchase from us and your other suppliers. Impacted categories include functional hardware, decorative hardware, organizers, sinks, lighting, and power solutions.

I'm guessing they will be short lived. The question is, what side caves first and what concessions are made? It feels like a game of chicken to me.

Flash
4th March 2025, 12:53
in pounds: 0,03 pounds of fentanil have been caught crossing the Canadian border since early December 24, is Trump kidding, imposing 25% tarif for 0,03 pounds!!! Putin oops Trump could just stop lying. What he wants is to be the king of predators, taking everything for his gang of oligarch Silicon Valley babboons rubbing the regular folks in the US and in the rest of the planet.

And many completely brain washed Avalonians, incapable of changing their ingrained opinions despite blatant proofs, naming themselves awake, wow, I pity humanity.

So lets Putin get Ukraine, Putin share Northern Canada with Trump (yes Trump proposed it to Putin), and have US soldiers and money from Ukraine be diverted to Israel to ethnically kill all Palestinians while ordinary US folks shut their eyes and end up suffering as well in a diminushed war economy thanks to tarifs and war with their past best partner.

You are letting a dictature installed itself worst than the previous dirt, the rest of the world sees it. The only blinds are the Americans.

War, and not just economic one, is coming.



The U.S. is already at war with China--as in, a clandestine, covert war where the enemy engages in business and diplomacy, with a duplicitous smile, while it secretly aims to destroy, destabilize, and conquer from the shadows.

Put in a more concrete way: China is deliberately flooding the U.S. with fentanyl via Mexico and Canada. This is not an accident. They are explicitly deploying a weapon against North America, and specifically against the population of United States. This fact cannot be understated, IMO.

It is true the majority of fentanyl comes into the United States via the Southern Border, but let's put this in perspective. 50 lbs of fentanyl were nonetheless seized in 2024 at the Canadian border, which is still potentially 11 million lethal doses coming in from the North.. That's just the quantity seized. Who knows how much is getting through? The point is, that number is hardly insignificant, and is only rendered to a convenient statistic by CNN et. al when compared to the fentanyl China is shipping in through Mexico.

The primary culprit/mastermind here is China. The deep-state globalist governments of Mexico and Canada (and United States) are facilitators, enablers, and foot soldiers of the mastermind, either wittingly or unwittingly. So if the agenda is to stop the flow of fentanyl from China--and that appears to be what these tariffs are about--I see policies (unpopular and seemingly unfair though they may be) aimed at checking the facilitators, enablers, and foot soldiers. Also, what good is plugging one hole if you don't plug all the holes--even the smaller ones? Just as with water leaking through a number of cracks in the hull of a boat, when you plug the biggest crack, more water pressure mounts at the smaller cracks. The only way to keep the boat from sinking is to plug all the holes.

So long as Canada maintains lax policies and regulations in regard to chemicals and fentanyl production imported from China (which I believe is the major impetus behind the imposed tariffs) building a fortress and closing the door on the Mexican border will do little good as long as the draft through the back door remains.

I don't want to see these tariffs happen, and yes, they are going to cause hardship and negatively affect innocent lives. And you are absolutely correct the majority of this problem flows from the South so it appears Trump is unfairly targeting Canada. But more to the topic of this thread, why are we not directing as much or more of the blame of this standoff on Trudeau's government for failing to plug its domestic fentanyl problem and production problem coming from China? I ask this sincerely, as it doesn't appear to me, in my limited understanding of the situation, that the government of Canada is doing its part--as an ally, or supposed ally of the United States--to stop the inflow of fentanyl to its own country, and by default, from spilling down into the United States.

In short, I think these tariffs would end immediately if Trudeau (or whoever his handlers are) were serious about erradicating Canada's own fentanyl problem.

There is NO fentanil from Canada (read my post)?and droplets of immigrants. You are drinking the lies and war cool aid. I cannot be louder here. NO ****zING FENTANIL. It is s lie.

Only predation from Trump-Putin.

Gosh when one does not want to change and still want to believe lies, imagine the rest of you. You lost your best allies. Forgive the Germans of last WW. They did what you are doing. Not saying that the left is better, just saying that Trump is a real predator.

gini
4th March 2025, 13:13
"No forgiveness allowed here." Flash post 562 --

-:shocked:
When i read this i wondered ;How will we ever have a peaceful world with that attitude?

How on earth can anyone feel entitled to make such a heartless condemnation and decide who or what is not allowed to be forgiven?

Please lets have some patience with eachother,nobody is perfect and we are all a work in progress.
Making mistakes is an essential part of the proces

Flash
4th March 2025, 13:24
"No forgiveness allowed here." Flash post 562 --

-:shocked:
When i read this i wondered ;How will we ever have a peaceful world with that attitude?

How on earth can anyone feel entitled to make such a heartless condemnation and decide who or what is not allowed to be forgiven?

Please lets have some patience with eachother,nobody is perfect and we are all a work in progress.
Making mistakes is an essential part of the proces

Do you know about the misuse of empathy by psychopaths? On one hand they imitated empathy, which they do not have, to make us cry and hesitate in front of their cruel but subdued behavior, and in the other hand they exploit our empathy to their end.

They are expert at it.

Our empathy is killing us - faced with predators.

This has to stop. Good people have to learn to say and act NO to predators. A very firm NO we will not submit to anything from predators.

FEAR - OBlIGATION - GUILT, FOG this is predator’s method.

SAY NO. No fear, no obligation towards them or imposed by them, no guilt pushed on us for not obeying or supplying them anything.

I did say no and you all can.

SilentFeathers
4th March 2025, 13:26
I don't want to see these tariffs happen, and yes, they are going to cause hardship and negatively affect innocent lives. And you are absolutely correct the majority of this problem flows from the South so it appears Trump is unfairly targeting Canada. But more to the topic of this thread, why are we not directing as much or more of the blame of this standoff on Trudeau's government for failing to plug its domestic fentanyl problem and production problem coming from China? I ask this sincerely, as it doesn't appear to me, in my limited understanding of the situation, that the government of Canada is doing its part--as an ally, or supposed ally of the United States--to stop the inflow of fentanyl to its own country, and by default, from spilling down into the United States.

In short, I think these tariffs would end immediately if Trudeau (or whoever his handlers are) were serious about erradicating Canada's own fentanyl problem.

I would argue that what Trump is doing has a lot more to do with the leaders of all these countries rather than what most people are complaining about, such as tariffs etc.

Canada and Mexico is only a small part of the dynamics in my opinion. Look what's happening to all the EU countries right now and look at their countries leaders.

They are all failed leaders when it comes to their common sense for doing what's best for their people's safety and security. The EU countries are all on the verge of economic and cultural collapse.

Vance just went over there and made speeches telling them all this and they all either laughed at him or got pissed off at him.

Trump is exposing all these failed leaders to their populations, Trump is in the process of dismantling the globalist cartel running these failing nations before these psychopaths completely destroy what's left of their countries.

Trump is choking off their money flow gravy train and now he's putting all these leaders in a position to either change or be run out of powerful positions and replaced by their own people.

I'm just speculating of course but in a way this is how I see things to a large degree.

T Smith
4th March 2025, 14:03
There is NO fentanil from Canada (read my post)?and droplets of immigrants. You are drinking the lies and war cool aid. I cannot be louder here. NO ****zING FENTANIL. It is s lie.

Only predation from Trump-Putin.



If there is a dispute about the quantity of fentanyl seized at the Canadian border, I'm not aware of it.

As far as I know, the official quantity seized at the border in 2024, depending on the source, was anywhere between 43 - 50 pounds. (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/drug-seizure-statistics) (I've seen both estimates from official statistics). The former quantity was published by the U.S. Customs and Borders Protections--and reported by multiple sources--and have nothing to do with Trump or his rhetoric. But if you believe these statistics are inaccurate, or false, or some kind of agenda-laden propaganda, please elaborate. I'm interested to learn.

In sum, I'm inclined to trust the fact that fentanyl coming from Canada via China is not only a talking point from Trump, but also a reality. I'm not saying this reality is anything near the crisis the United States is seeing at its Southern border; I'm just saying it's a reality. In other words, it's not a lie. If anything, the facts underlining this reality have been confirmed by numerous leftist sources and tend to emphasize (or attempt to emphasize) just how minuscule the problem is relative to the amounts that come in through Mexico.

My point is--the "official" amount seized from the Canadian border is still enough to kill up to 11 million people.

The second point is, Canada appears to have a serious Fentanyl problem of its own. Are we really just content to turn a blind eye to this and pretend it's all lies?

The way I'm seeing it, not everything is always about Trump (or Putin).

T Smith
4th March 2025, 14:05
I don't want to see these tariffs happen, and yes, they are going to cause hardship and negatively affect innocent lives. And you are absolutely correct the majority of this problem flows from the South so it appears Trump is unfairly targeting Canada. But more to the topic of this thread, why are we not directing as much or more of the blame of this standoff on Trudeau's government for failing to plug its domestic fentanyl problem and production problem coming from China? I ask this sincerely, as it doesn't appear to me, in my limited understanding of the situation, that the government of Canada is doing its part--as an ally, or supposed ally of the United States--to stop the inflow of fentanyl to its own country, and by default, from spilling down into the United States.

In short, I think these tariffs would end immediately if Trudeau (or whoever his handlers are) were serious about erradicating Canada's own fentanyl problem.

I would argue that what Trump is doing has a lot more to do with the leaders of all these countries rather than what most people are complaining about, such as tariffs etc.

Canada and Mexico is only a small part of the dynamics in my opinion. Look what's happening to all the EU countries right now and look at their countries leaders.

They are all failed leaders when it comes to their common sense for doing what's best for their people's safety and security. The EU countries are all on the verge of economic and cultural collapse.

Vance just went over there and made speeches telling them all this and they all either laughed at him or got pissed off at him.

Trump is exposing all these failed leaders to their populations, Trump is in the process of dismantling the globalist cartel running these failing nations before these psychopaths completely destroy what's left of their countries.

Trump is choking off their money flow gravy train and now he's putting all these leaders in a position to either change or be run out of powerful positions and replaced by their own people.

I'm just speculating of course but in a way this is how I see things to a large degree.

I think you've nailed it...

SilentFeathers
4th March 2025, 14:14
I don't want to see these tariffs happen, and yes, they are going to cause hardship and negatively affect innocent lives. And you are absolutely correct the majority of this problem flows from the South so it appears Trump is unfairly targeting Canada. But more to the topic of this thread, why are we not directing as much or more of the blame of this standoff on Trudeau's government for failing to plug its domestic fentanyl problem and production problem coming from China? I ask this sincerely, as it doesn't appear to me, in my limited understanding of the situation, that the government of Canada is doing its part--as an ally, or supposed ally of the United States--to stop the inflow of fentanyl to its own country, and by default, from spilling down into the United States.

In short, I think these tariffs would end immediately if Trudeau (or whoever his handlers are) were serious about erradicating Canada's own fentanyl problem.

I would argue that what Trump is doing has a lot more to do with the leaders of all these countries rather than what most people are complaining about, such as tariffs etc.

Canada and Mexico is only a small part of the dynamics in my opinion. Look what's happening to all the EU countries right now and look at their countries leaders.

They are all failed leaders when it comes to their common sense for doing what's best for their people's safety and security. The EU countries are all on the verge of economic and cultural collapse.

Vance just went over there and made speeches telling them all this and they all either laughed at him or got pissed off at him.

Trump is exposing all these failed leaders to their populations, Trump is in the process of dismantling the globalist cartel running these failing nations before these psychopaths completely destroy what's left of their countries.

Trump is choking off their money flow gravy train and now he's putting all these leaders in a position to either change or be run out of powerful positions and replaced by their own people.

I'm just speculating of course but in a way this is how I see things to a large degree.

I think you've nailed it...

I also won't be surprised at all if Trump announces at the speech to Congress that he's pulling out of NATO. This will likely collapse NATO and make it obsolete.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't already have a peace deal drafted out with Russia and Russia may be actually ready to disengage with Ukraine once this mess with Zelensky is straightened out. Zelensky likely won't even be in power in a week or so.

It's quite obvious the EU doesn't have any common sense as what to do about all of this, let alone the capability to really do anything lasting.

Big things are happening and Trump doesn't seem to be slowing down.

Merkaba360
4th March 2025, 14:17
https://namastepublishing.co.uk/full-body-language-analysis-of-trump-and-zelenskyys-meltdown/

".......The following video provides background details to the meeting followed by an analysis of the body language of both Zelensky and Trump. This is both interesting and very revealing as it exposes Zelensky and completely vindicates Trump. It should serve as an eye opener to all sleep walkers and anyone who has doubts about the meeting at the White house.
The public are being played like a violin into accepting the possibility of a world war situation by the satanic deep state, using their puppeteer Zelensky in order to maintain control and stop the landslide of their demise into the abyss. The fire is raging, the temperature is about to escalate and they cannot stop it..."

This video is a good breakdown of the whole Zelensky/Trump meeting.

It's so obvious to those without TDS and extreme hatred towards Trump that Zelensky derailed this whole event.

The unmasking of that demonic weasel was surreal. The whole world seen it!

And guess what.....its was predicted months ago that the economic unraveling will begin in Europe and China first. America and others of course soon after with the domino effect. Now looking like that makes some sense. Don't think a specific timeframe was given but I assume this year.

Also, has been predicted months ago that Russia will piss off China with some kind of 'backstab.' Making a lot more sense now if the US and Russia start making deals to peel Russia away from China.

Obviously there's a lot of fair criticisms to make against Trump. He can't go against every corruption, scam and evil all at once. but none of his harsh critics in this forum have given an alternative.

As if this massive shake up isn't better than the insane path the establishment was heading towards - wokism, insane logic, endless immigration and flooding the west with illegals and serial killer gangsters (not thugs) while refusing to enforce laws, insane woke judges, severe censorship and gaslighting, extreme wasteful fraud and accelerating spending, attacking the children , chemical and biological warfare on its own people, Warmongering, on and on. Literally everything was to cause more problems and chaos.
I didn't see a third option. So, Trump haters could please explain how Trump was not the better option for the short term. Even if its a trap, we still must take all the positive changes and the huge shake up as an opportunity for exposure and the people rising up to stop the malevolent secret society members.

So, anyone bashing Trump every chance they get and never admitting the positives or weighing it against the alternative (Dont know how any third alternative was possible ) can't be taken seriously in this debate.

Who is exposing more and waking up more people. Trump or his opponent team?

Lastly, whoever blamed the war all on USA and should pay reparations. Its a worldwide secret society faction. One could argue its more European bankers/vatican/Israel that are higher ranking and dictating USA policy. For all we know , its reptilians or aliens controlling these secret societies and possibly incarnating into human bodies and remembering who they beyond this realm. lol

Merkaba360
4th March 2025, 14:27
I also won't be surprised at all if Trump announces at the speech to Congress that he's pulling out of NATO. This will likely collapse NATO and make it obsolete.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't already have a peace deal drafted out with Russia and Russia may be actually ready to disengage with Ukraine once this mess with Zelensky is straightened out. Zelensky likely won't even be in power in a week or so.

It's quite obvious the EU doesn't have any common sense as what to do about all of this, let alone the capability to really do anything lasting.

Big things are happening and Trump doesn't seem to be slowing down.


Does Trump Need Congressional Approval to Pull Out of NATO?
Yes, Under Current Federal Law: As of March 2025, federal law requires congressional approval for the president to withdraw the United States from NATO. In 2023, Congress passed a provision in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2024, signed into law by President Joe Biden on December 22, 2023, that explicitly states, “The President shall not suspend, terminate, denounce, or withdraw the United States from the North Atlantic Treaty… except by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, provided that two-thirds of the Senators present concur, or pursuant to an Act of Congress.” This means Trump would need either a two-thirds Senate supermajority or a majority vote from both chambers of Congress to withdraw from NATO, per the law

Apparently, they could challenge this law as being unconstitutional, but there is no precedence.

They already planned to block him from doing this. lol To give them the option of creating a false flag on europe and force USA to defend NATO ?

The law, co-sponsored by Sens. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), was designed to prevent unilateral presidential withdrawal, particularly in response to Trump’s past criticisms and threats to exit NATO during his first term (2017–2021) and 2024 campaign.

WTH? Marco Rubio sponsored this. hmmm

Yea, don't think it will slow down , especially since he wants to get as much done as he can in case he doesn't survive. Trump doing a rapid fire, one thing after another was also predicted some months ago. lol

rgray222
4th March 2025, 14:38
I don't want to see these tariffs happen, and yes, they are going to cause hardship and negatively affect innocent lives. And you are absolutely correct the majority of this problem flows from the South so it appears Trump is unfairly targeting Canada. But more to the topic of this thread, why are we not directing as much or more of the blame of this standoff on Trudeau's government for failing to plug its domestic fentanyl problem and production problem coming from China? I ask this sincerely, as it doesn't appear to me, in my limited understanding of the situation, that the government of Canada is doing its part--as an ally, or supposed ally of the United States--to stop the inflow of fentanyl to its own country, and by default, from spilling down into the United States.

In short, I think these tariffs would end immediately if Trudeau (or whoever his handlers are) were serious about erradicating Canada's own fentanyl problem.

I would argue that what Trump is doing has a lot more to do with the leaders of all these countries rather than what most people are complaining about, such as tariffs etc.

Canada and Mexico is only a small part of the dynamics in my opinion. Look what's happening to all the EU countries right now and look at their countries leaders.

They are all failed leaders when it comes to their common sense for doing what's best for their people's safety and security. The EU countries are all on the verge of economic and cultural collapse.

Vance just went over there and made speeches telling them all this and they all either laughed at him or got pissed off at him.

Trump is exposing all these failed leaders to their populations, Trump is in the process of dismantling the globalist cartel running these failing nations before these psychopaths completely destroy what's left of their countries.

Trump is choking off their money flow gravy train and now he's putting all these leaders in a position to either change or be run out of powerful positions and replaced by their own people.

I'm just speculating of course but in a way this is how I see things to a large degree.

There are so many things going on with the Canada/USA relationship that need to be addressed that you can take your pick

According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), 85% of all suspected terrorists encountered at land border ports of entry have crossed into the United States along the Northern border with Canada

The USA is running a trade deficit with Canada, depending on the records you're checking and who you listen to, if runs from $45 Billion to $150 Billion

In 2023, only 2 lbs of fentanyl was seized coming into the USA from Canada; in 2024, that number jumped to 45 lbs. It does appear that the drug traffickers are establishing new routes across the northern border.

Because Biden restricted (by permits) drilling for oil and natural gas, Canada has become the largest producer of natural gas and crude oil to the USA. I think that the fact that the USA is getting so much energy from Canada is a difficult thing for Trump to accept

It has been my observation that Trump does not usually hold a grudge. Typically, he calls people out and bitterly complains about them, but rarely does he extract revenge. I don't think that is the case with Trudeau. As world leaders go, he has been one of the nastiest, cruel and dishonest people on the planet. I think a bit of the 51st state nonsense is directed at Trudeau, mostly to put his job in jeopardy. Trudeau preaches capitalism but has demonstrated that he is a socialist. Trudeau has been a Trump hater from day one and he is now paying a price for his actions and his words.

Even the current ambassador from Canada to the USA is an absolute Trump hater and is on record saying things that simply are not true.

The list goes on but I think I can see where Trump is coming from:

SilentFeathers
4th March 2025, 14:39
I also won't be surprised at all if Trump announces at the speech to Congress that he's pulling out of NATO. This will likely collapse NATO and make it obsolete.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't already have a peace deal drafted out with Russia and Russia may be actually ready to disengage with Ukraine once this mess with Zelensky is straightened out. Zelensky likely won't even be in power in a week or so.

It's quite obvious the EU doesn't have any common sense as what to do about all of this, let alone the capability to really do anything lasting.

Big things are happening and Trump doesn't seem to be slowing down.


Does Trump Need Congressional Approval to Pull Out of NATO?
Yes, Under Current Federal Law: As of March 2025, federal law requires congressional approval for the president to withdraw the United States from NATO. In 2023, Congress passed a provision in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2024, signed into law by President Joe Biden on December 22, 2023, that explicitly states, “The President shall not suspend, terminate, denounce, or withdraw the United States from the North Atlantic Treaty… except by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, provided that two-thirds of the Senators present concur, or pursuant to an Act of Congress.” This means Trump would need either a two-thirds Senate supermajority or a majority vote from both chambers of Congress to withdraw from NATO, per the law

Apparently, they could challenge this law as being unconstitutional, but there is no precedence.

They already planned to block him from doing this. lol To give them the option of creating a false flag on europe and force USA to defend NATO ?

The law, co-sponsored by Sens. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), was designed to prevent unilateral presidential withdrawal, particularly in response to Trump’s past criticisms and threats to exit NATO during his first term (2017–2021) and 2024 campaign.

WTH? Marco Rubio sponsored this. hmmm

Yea, don't think it will slow down , especially since he wants to get as much done as he can in case he doesn't survive. Trump doing a rapid fire, one thing after another was also predicted some months ago. lol

Even so, if Trump announces and demands Congress to act to withdraw from NATO, this will create such a panic in the EU and elsewhere it may be all Trump needs to do. Just the announcement alone may be enough to get these psychopaths to go along with this Russian peace deal no matter how they feel about it.

I fully expect another attempt to take Trump out. Especially after his speech to Congress. The attack will likely come from within, from someone who already has clearance to be in the Whitehouse/Congress/Senate. I suspect (and hope) Trump and his team are already aware of this plot and will thwart and expose it for all the world to see.

norman
4th March 2025, 14:53
Vance just went over there and made speeches telling them all this and they all either laughed at him or got pissed off at him.

Trump is exposing all these failed leaders to their populations, Trump is in the process of dismantling the globalist cartel running these failing nations before these psychopaths completely destroy what's left of their countries.

.

What's going on right now isn't even geopolitics because there are no legitimate governments to do geopolitics with. First things first. That's to out the imposters who were not voted into the positions they complain and shout from. They're pirates in a panic.

The gap opening up between Trump's America and the Euro group is a preamble to dropping the evidence that they're illegitimate with not a leg to stand on. Trump probably wants them to be pissed off and noisy and all the other fake indignancies because it sets a more perfect stage for the next move up his sleeve, the actual evidence.

I even wonder if his teasing and blag talk about making Canada another state of America is aimed at king Charlie sitting at home in his 4 bed Windsor cottage sweating cobs wondering if he's heading for gitmo too. "maybe we can do a deal" ;) Charlie sent postman Kier over last week with a crumpled letter. You never know.

Seriously tho', all those people who wilfully pulled the trigger on the monetized injection cull and blatant murderous forced re engineering of the world with fire and hurricane and regimental slaughter have a hell of a lot more than organised worldwide election fraud to answer for. That's only how they got their ducks in a row.

mountain_jim
4th March 2025, 15:56
In nearly every post in this thread, one Avalon member trashes many others (says 'brainwashed' or worse), decries the decline in quality of this forum, etc., because we in the US chose a nationalist leader focusing on trying to achieve Peace abroad and save our country, rather than a vacuous empty-headed female puppet with globalist/communists/ deep-state backing as our leader going forward?

You are entitled to your views of course, but I don't see how given choices we in the US were provided, we could have chosen any better.

To argue otherwise seems to me that you ignore or were unaware of the depths of decline that we in the US were experiencing via corrupt DemoRat and Uniparty leadership.

At least we don't now have to worry about lockdowns, Fema camps, poisonous vax mandates, censorship of our speech, and seizing of our bank accounts for protesting.

We in the US are now more free than we were and have a better chance of our country exposing corruption and not collapsing in debt - and to see things this way is not being brainwashed, in my humble opinion.

Rather it's seeing things quite clearly - and the revelations to come will make this even more obvious - deal with it, and stop with the insults to our intelligence/reality-awareness.

JackMcThorn
4th March 2025, 16:06
You know, even though Trump has a Republican congress and senate - the threat of leaving NATO might be enough to send the Continent into a tizzy. But I do not think that is going to happen and would be pleasantly surprised if it does. This pressure on Europe to be less dependent on America is ideal - I mean for allies and friends, they sure seem to bad-mouth America early and often.

The Continent is not your late 194o's era Continent and America is sort of leaning into a pre-world war era of semi-neutrality. Which I have been thinking about for the past decades that America should return to this more isolated entity as opposed to less. It is not necessarily exclusive to America first mentality. It is more of the calculated risk assessment mentality. The world and its idiosyncrasies are certainly high risk endeavors and the cost is ridiculous- financially and otherwise.

I mean, you might think that self-sufficiency in areas to include defense would be an element of liberty or freedom that democracies would want to enjoy; not this continual dependence on perceived powerful entities. This very liberty of America is indeed at stake.

norman
4th March 2025, 16:21
If America leaves NATO (early or first) it won't have a veto to keep Ukraine out of it. It may not matter tho' because NATO is unlikely to survive the big reveals coming up.

Eric J (Viking)
4th March 2025, 17:34
Trump to Announce the US Leaving NATO. (Unconfirmed as yet)

https://x.com/defense_civil25/status/1896717767853957342
1896717767853957342

rgray222
4th March 2025, 18:10
It is important to understand what NGOs are because they are influencing our world in ways we have never seen before, not just in the USA but NGOs are being used by governments all over the planet.

NGOs are responsible for:

Worldwide Immigration
Immigration at the Southern US border
Men in Women's Sports
Influencing Elections
Human Trafficking
Funding and Promoting Wars
Identity Politics
Paying for and organizing Violent Demonstrations
Gender Dysphoria
Lawfare Around the World
Corruption in Governments
Globalist Agenda being forced on society

What governments want you to believe about NGOs
NGOs are non-governmental organizations. They are civil society associations that ostensibly work independently from governments to provide and advance services in social and political fields. NGOs prefer to be seen as grassroots groups representing underprivileged and underserved populations. NGOs claim to work towards humanitarian ends, many, especially those involved in conflict zones.

The Truth about NGOs
Although NGOs prefer to be seen as grassroots groups, representing underprivileged and underserved populations and “speaking truth to power,” nothing could be further from the truth. NGOs have large budgets and are very powerful political actors that engage in globalist activities around the world. NGO are found being supported and subsized by virtually every government. They run expensive media campaigns, pay for lawfare around the world, have massive budgets that influence politics and elections, they wield tremendous influence at the United Nations with their primary objective being Global Government. They are highly paid lobbyists that no one really understands. Their true purpose has only recently been exposed by Elon Musk and Doge.

Elon Musk said that his team has found more than 55,000 NGOs, nongovernment organizations that are funded by the government that gave money back to political candidates, mostly Democrats. What an incredible oxymoron, a non-government organization funded by the government. NGOs utilize many different tactics to delegitimize and demonize anything that is even perceived to be a threat to their progressive globalist agenda. The reason for the incredible number of illegal immigrants coming across the border during the Biden years was that hundreds of government-funded NGOs were providing legal assistance on what the immigrants should say when stopped by the Border Patrol. The NGO were advising on how to access Biden-provided flights throughout the USA; the NGOs were even providing phones and cash. These NGO's were not working for the betterment of mankind; they were making a ton of money off the government. Biden was destroying the fabric of America with taxpayer money through the NGO network.


NGO should never be funded directly or indirectly by governments. Whenever we hear about NGOs, it should raise red flags; better yet, they should be removed and never used for any purposes whatsoever.

SilentFeathers
4th March 2025, 18:31
This is a good example of what I was talking about in an earlier post about these war-mongering globalist leaders not being capable of reason or common sense.

Trudeau disrespects the Office of the US Presidency by calling Trump "Donald" twice. He also tries to rally the US people against the Trump Administration/US Government.

Perhaps Trudeau didn't get the Zelensky memo.....

Trudeau calls out Trump, quoting WSJ | ‘Donald, this is a very dumb thing to do’
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Trump puts 'Governor Trudeau' on notice for criticizing tariffs
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T Smith
4th March 2025, 18:40
Trump to Announce the US Leaving NATO. (Unconfirmed as yet)

https://x.com/defense_civil25/status/1896717767853957342
1896717767853957342

If this is true, it's a chess move--an interesting one, I'd say. According to this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?124169-Day-1-of-Trump-s-Presidency...-and-all-the-days-that-follow&p=1658927&viewfull=1#post1658927) POTUS cannot withdraw unilaterally or by executive order from NATO--Trump surely knows and understands this--so there is no way--absolutely no chance at all--2/3rds of the Senate will vote to leave NATO. But Trump can announce in his address to Congress a directive to the effect that the US will only contribute "x" amount to NATO, proportionate to its "fair share", or alternatively, withdraw completely (placing the ball squarely in Europe's court--and ultimately in Congress's court if Europe won't comply) and then watch Congress hang itself by exposing all the war-mongering Globalists from the Nationalists who vote against the move.

One thing is for sure: every RINO that votes against such a move would surely be ousted at midterms.

bojancan
4th March 2025, 20:07
It's very interesting video... I was listening only small part of it... I will listen later at the evening...
Always like to listen Galloway ... so here is the latest one...

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In this week's episode of Have It Out With Galloway, George Galloway examines the future of Western hegemony and what it means for BRICS.

George is joined by Na'eem Jeenah (Senior Researcher at the Mapungubwe Institute) and a live audience for Q&A!

To become a live audience member in the next episode, apply on our website at: haveitoutwithgalloway.com

George welcomes any views and questions, so come and have a go if you think you're hard enough!

Have It Out With Galloway (Episode 45) Is Trump Dividing BRICS?

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SilentFeathers
4th March 2025, 20:09
If all the long term and high profile Democrat Elites get up and walk out of the speech tonight I hope the Secret Service instantly remove Trump and thoroughly search the building.

These psychopaths will sacrifice a few of their own lesser popular commies to get Trump.

This may sound far fetched and a bit off the wall, but, they are desperate and pissed and I wouldn't put anything past them.

bojancan
4th March 2025, 20:23
Please allow me to add this video by ZETEO... I respect Mehdi Hasan... I know, some of you will close the eyes... in US and around the world.. there are not only right wings people... here is one video from different point of view.. Do not be angry with me... you already know that I didn't have a good opinion on Biden or Kamal... nor I have about Trump now...

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“I think Americans are going to take to the streets. There's part of me that believes Trump wants Americans to take to the streets, because Trump wants to use the military.”

Ex-Republican Congressman and 'Never Trumper' Joe Walsh joins Mehdi Hasan in a two-part interview on ‘Mehdi Unfiltered.’ In Part One they discuss Donald Trump — the Democrats' failure to push back, whether the US is heading towards civil war, and Elon Musk’s ‘constitutional crisis.’

In PART TWO Mehdi and Walsh get into a HEATED debate about Israel and Gaza. Profanities were uttered, and, at one point, Walsh even grabbed Mehdi’s questions paper out of his hand! To watch it NOW at ZETEO.COM, become a paid subscriber: https://zeteo.com/p/israel-gaza-mehdi...

This interview was originally published on Zeteo.com last week. Subscribe and don’t miss out on access to exclusive content.


‘Hell Yes’ We Could See Civil War in the US
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I am adding quick post also...

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mountain_jim
4th March 2025, 20:35
There is NO fentanil from Canada (read my post)?and droplets of immigrants. You are drinking the lies and war cool aid. I cannot be louder here. NO ****zING FENTANIL. It is s lie.

Only predation from Trump-Putin.



If there is a dispute about the quantity of fentanyl seized at the Canadian border, I'm not aware of it.

As far as I know, the official quantity seized at the border in 2024, depending on the source, was anywhere between 43 - 50 pounds. (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/drug-seizure-statistics) (I've seen both estimates from official statistics). The former quantity was published by the U.S. Customs and Borders Protections--and reported by multiple sources--and have nothing to do with Trump or his rhetoric. But if you believe these statistics are inaccurate, or false, or some kind of agenda-laden propaganda, please elaborate. I'm interested to learn.

In sum, I'm inclined to trust the fact that fentanyl coming from Canada via China is not only a talking point from Trump, but also a reality. I'm not saying this reality is anything near the crisis the United States is seeing at its Southern border; I'm just saying it's a reality. In other words, it's not a lie. If anything, the facts underlining this reality have been confirmed by numerous leftist sources and tend to emphasize (or attempt to emphasize) just how minuscule the problem is relative to the amounts that come in through Mexico.

My point is--the "official" amount seized from the Canadian border is still enough to kill up to 11 million people.

The second point is, Canada appears to have a serious Fentanyl problem of its own. Are we really just content to turn a blind eye to this and pretend it's all lies?

The way I'm seeing it, not everything is always about Trump (or Putin).


"a lie" - really? These reports would seem to indicate otherwise.




https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1885925563036274790

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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
Every year, well over 300,000 Americans DIE from fentanyl and we’ve had enough of it.

Two smugglers were caught accidentally in Alberta, Canada this week with enough fentanyl to kill over 10 million people, and then there’s this fentanyl super lab in Vancouver BC busted five weeks ago only because of American law-enforcement.


https://x.com/ShaunRickard67/status/1886504110008180931

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Shaun Rickard
@ShaunRickard67
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Feb 3
From the horses mouth, for all those naïve enough to believe that fentanyl entering the US is not coming from Canada - The RCMP confirm that there are over 4,000 separate organized crime groups operating in Canada that are manufacturing & distributing huge amounts of fentanyl.



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Pamela
@pamihami
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Feb 2
According to the US Customs and Border Patrol, they stopped 19kg of fentanyl from entering the US through the Canadian border, while it's nothing compared to the southern border, the DEA says 1kg of fentanyl will kill 500K people.

Rizotto
4th March 2025, 21:14
On this fentanyl issue, as a Canadian I have two points or questions:

1- US is responsible for ensuring its OWN border security and detection of illicit substances at its border. No other country in the world can do that border security for US. It's the open border policy of the Biden administration which caused the calamitous spread of fentanyl in the US, along with millions of illegal migrants. Trump needs to fix the borders, and stop blaming the neighbours.

2- As for the underground labs producing fentanyl in Canada, we need to know how many of those labs are operated by illegal migrants, or legal immigrants. Canada is in a catastrophic housing shortage right now, much aggravated by mass immigration, mostly from India. House & rental prices have incredibly increased due to higher demand from all these newcomers. To the point that Canadians can't afford to buy houses. However, it is baffling that Indian newcomers are buying multiple houses and practically all the businesses on 'main street'. How can that be? Rumours are that drug trade is one of their sources of income. Does anyone know more about this?

mountain_jim
4th March 2025, 21:38
On this fentanyl issue, as a Canadian I have two points or questions:

1- US is responsible for ensuring its OWN border security and detection of illicit substances at its border. No other country in the world can do that border security for US. It's the open border policy of the Biden administration which caused the calamitous spread of fentanyl in the US, along with millions of illegal migrants. Trump needs to fix the borders, and stop blaming the neighbours.

2- As for the underground labs producing fentanyl in Canada, we need to know how many of those labs are operated by illegal migrants, or legal immigrants. Canada is in a catastrophic housing shortage right now, much aggravated by mass immigration, mostly from India. House & rental prices have incredibly increased due to higher demand from all these newcomers. To the point that Canadians can't afford to buy houses. However, it is baffling that Indian newcomers are buying multiple houses and practically all the businesses on 'main street'. How can that be? Rumours are that drug trade is one of their sources of income. Does anyone know more about this?

Good Points.

As I have said before in this thread, Trump says outrageous things to get better deals in negotiations.

I admit I don't quite know what the real reasons for his Canadian tariffs may be at this point, as it seems improvements in border issues are already happening - maybe he will clarify that tonight.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GlN3qMkXcAAdw7t?format=jpg&name=900x900




These links show Canada improvement efforts since he highlighted the border issues.



https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2025/01/canada-continues-to-strengthen-border-security-and-immigration-integrity.html

Canada continues to strengthen border security and immigration integrity
From: Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada

News release
January 15, 2025—Ottawa – Today, the Honourable David J. McGuinty, Minister of Public Safety, and the Honourable Marc Miller, Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship, provided key updates on the impacts of recent measures to reinforce the integrity of our shared border with the United-States (U.S.) and our immigration system. These ongoing efforts include Canada’s Border Plan (https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2024/12/government-of-canada-announces-its-plan-to-strengthen-border-security-and-our-immigration-system.html), released in December 2024.

Together, Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC), Public Safety, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), have taken concrete steps to minimize unnecessary border volumes, increase info-sharing, and reduce non-genuine visitors and illegal crossings at the border. These measures are already delivering results. The accompanying backgrounder outlines IRCC’s measures and key results, and provides an overview of actions taken to protect the border and prevent fraud.

Public Safety is coordinating the $1.3-billion effort to further strengthen the border, and disrupt illegal cross-border activity. In the coming weeks, the Government of Canada will further enhance real-time surveillance of Canada’s border and increase presence to support communities. We have already deployed 60 new drones along our border with the U.S., and will be deploying additional surveillance towers and purchasing new technology, such as x-rays, mobile x-rays and hand-held chemical analyzers.

Canada’s law enforcement agencies – the RCMP and the CBSA – are working together to ensure they have the officers they need in case there is a surge in the number of asylum seekers coming into Canada. Last year, the CBSA removed over 16,000 individuals from Canada. As committed to under the Border Plan, the CBSA is investing additional resources to further increase removals by another 25 percent this year. The Government of Canada has conducted joint planning sessions with all provinces and territories so that all orders of government work together to bolster border security.

Public Safety is also leading the establishment of a Joint Intelligence Group, which will expand the RCMP and the Communications Security Establishment’s intelligence collection capacity, enabling these agencies to target transnational organized crime and fentanyl trafficking more effectively. Finally, the RCMP will pull together resources from law enforcement and the financial sector and leverage existing activities, enhancing cooperation and information sharing on sophisticated money laundering schemes.

Since announcing the Border Plan, the Government of Canada has moved forward on a number of initiatives that will enhance security at the border. Securing the Canada-U.S. Border: Actions and Outcomes to Date (https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2024/12/government-of-canada-announces-its-plan-to-strengthen-border-security-and-our-immigration-system.html)demonstrates this progress.


https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2024/12/government-of-canada-announces-its-plan-to-strengthen-border-security-and-our-immigration-system.html


News release
December 17, 2024 – Ottawa, Canada

Today, the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, Minister of Finance and Intergovernmental Affairs, along with the Honourable Marc Miller, Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship and the Honourable Ya'ara Saks, Minister of Mental Health and Addictions and Associate Minister of Health, released Canada’s Border Plan. Backed by an investment of $1.3 billion and built around five pillars, this plan will bolster border security, strengthen our immigration system and contribute to ensuring Canada's future prosperity.

Detecting and disrupting the fentanyl trade

The Government of Canada will increase support to law enforcement agencies in detecting, intercepting and addressing fentanyl and precursor chemicals by adding artificial intelligence and imaging tools that will further help detect illegal drugs before they enter Canada.

As well, the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) will train and deploy new canine teams to intercept illegal drugs. The agency currently has over 80 detector dog teams located at various ports of entry across Canada. CBSA will also deploy new chemical detection tools at high-risk ports of entry.

Health Canada will create a new Canadian Drug Profiling Centre to support 2,000 investigations a year, and expand capacity at regional labs.

By launching a new Chemical Precursor Risk Management Unit, Health Canada will be able to provide better insight into precursor chemicals and distribution channels, enhance monitoring and surveillance and enable timely law enforcement action.

In addition, Health Canada will accelerate the regulatory process for banning precursors so that border and law enforcement can take swift action to prevent their illegal importation and use.

Introducing significant new tools for law enforcement

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) will deploy a new Aerial Intelligence Task Force comprised of helicopters, drones, and mobile surveillance towers. Counter-drone technology will support RCMP officers and provide 24/7 surveillance between ports of entry.

As well, new legislative requirements proposed in the Fall Economic Statement 2024 will expressly obligate port owners and operators to provide the CBSA, free of charge, with the space and facilities needed to conduct export inspections, just as they currently do for imports.

In addition, the Government will invest to expand the RCMP and the Communications Security Establishment (CSE)’s intelligence collection capacity, enabling these agencies to target transnational organized crime and fentanyl trafficking more effectively.

The Government also proposed, in the Fall Economic Statement 2024, a set of amendments to the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act (PCMLTFA), including increases to administrative and criminal penalties and other compliance tools, to ensure reporting entities under the PCMLTFA are effectively detecting, deterring, and disrupting financial crime and do not treat non-compliance as the cost of doing business.

As well, a new dedicated taskforce bringing together law enforcement and the financial sector will enhance cooperation and information sharing on sophisticated money laundering schemes.

Stronger measures against money laundering will further starve organized crime groups of profits stemming from drug and firearms trafficking, and human smuggling.

Enhancing operational coordination

Increased information sharing between Canadian and United States (U.S.) officials on each illegal border interception enables officials to target and take stronger action against those who abuse our system, allowing for enhanced intelligence sharing in real time, monitoring of illegal migration trends and hot spots, improved operational interoperability, proactive resource planning and deployment, and ultimately, the targeting and disruption of organized crime groups facilitating illegal border crossings.

Working with provinces, territories and local law enforcement, the Government will create three regional hubs that bring federal, provincial and local law enforcement officers together to support and focus enforcement capacity, and intercept organized crime and illegal drugs faster.

The Government will also propose to the U.S. the creation of a new North American Joint Strike Force to target transnational organized crime.

Increasing information sharing

The Government of Canada will build on our information and intelligence sharing between our federal, provincial, territorial authorities, the U.S. and other international partners.

Enhanced information sharing will allow authorities to identify, monitor and collaborate with partners to intercept high-risk individuals attempting to travel along with goods of interest attempting to move between countries.

Minimizing unnecessary border volumes

As part of our efforts to continue to build a strong and fair immigration and asylum system, the Government of Canada will:

Implement changes to end ‘flagpoling’, which happens when a temporary resident leaves Canada and immediately returns to a port of entry to get immigration services. This practice uses significant resources at the border, distracts border officers from enforcement activities, and slows cross-border traffic.
The Government also proposed, in the Fall Economic Statement 2024, to amend the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act to secure and extend new authorities to cancel, change or suspend immigration documents and to cancel, suspend or stop accepting new applications, which would give Canada greater control over its immigration documents to protect Canadians and public resources. These authorities could also help prevent those who may pose a risk to Canada from entering the country and prevent further southbound irregular migration.
Additional measures include imposing new restrictions on countries that do not rapidly facilitate the return of their citizens in the event of fraudulent entry or a removal order.
The Safe Third Country Agreement (STCA) and its Additional Protocol remain in place. People must claim asylum in the first country they enter – be it Canada or the U.S. This agreement mitigates against unlawful entry into either country, and maintains border integrity for both countries. Claimants that do not meet an exception or exemption to the STCA will be returned to the first safe country they entered, either Canada or the U.S.

Canada and the U.S. have one of the closest and strongest relationships in the world. Our two countries will continue to work together to protect the integrity of our shared border, combatting drug trafficking and illegal migration while facilitating the lawful free flow of people, services and goods that contributes to North American prosperity.

mountain_jim
4th March 2025, 22:03
concerning tariffs, saw this just now

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-canada-retaliate-against-trumps-tariff-war-global-stocks-slide

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick spoke on Fox Business, offering the dovish olive branch:

"Both the Mexicans and the Canadians were on the phone with me all day today trying to show that they’ll do better, and the president’s listening, because you know he’s very, very fair and very reasonable,” Lutnick said in an interview with Fox Business.

“So I think he’s going to work something out with them — it’s not going to be a pause, none of that pause stuff, but I think he’s going to figure out: you do more and I’ll meet you in the middle some way and we’re going to probably announcing that tomorrow.”

As Bloomberg reports, Lutnick did not explicitly say what President Donald Trump was considering after imposing an across-the-board tariff on all goods from Canada and Mexico that went into effect overnight.

Lutnick said that the tariffs would likely land “somewhere in the middle” with Trump “moving with the Canadians and Mexicans, but not all the way.”

Lutnick discounted the notion that the tariffs would be fully rolled back, pointing instead to the US-Mexico-Canada trade pact negotiated during Trump’s first term.

“If you live under those rules, then the president is considering giving you relief,” Lutnick said.

“If you haven’t lived under those rules, well, then you have to pay the tariff.”




a ZH commenter said this, I don/t know if true




6 hours ago
remove
Trump has offered to stop Tariffs/reduce if

1) China works to stop Fentanyl shipments to Mexico/Merika

china's response is - US Problem

2) Mexico - take back your ILLEGALS you allowed to pass thru

3) Canada - stop subsidizing Lumber/other industries then exporting cheap products to US

Rizotto
4th March 2025, 22:11
Sorry, but I just don't buy this "Jump!" "How high?" thing. All of these insults and irrational banter are only sowing unproductive chaos. You can't trust a thing that Canadian Liberal politicians say anyway. They said a while back they will reduce immigration to Canada, but it has only increased. Obviously, their agenda is the destruction of Canada.

If Trump really wanted to get Canadian politicians in line, all he would have to say is that the US won't do business with Canada until they hold a federal election.

rgray222
4th March 2025, 22:15
Trump to Announce the US Leaving NATO. (Unconfirmed as yet)

https://x.com/defense_civil25/status/1896717767853957342
1896717767853957342

I wouldn't get your hopes up; I doubt that Trump will pull the USA out of NATO, but I do think he will put NATO on notice to pay their fair share. I think that it is also unlikely but possible that Trump will say that Article 5 of the NATO treaty is no longer valid. "The idea behind it was this...... all for one and one for all belief – and that's been broken by the Europeans. America has been doing the heavy lifting in terms of personnel and financial resources for a long time. Most countries have never contributed the agreed-upon share, and other countries have only just started to put in the required 2.5% of GDP. For instance, the USA pays over $1 billion while Germany (2nd largest contributor) puts in just $68 million. I also think he will start pulling Troops out of Germany. The only question is how many and when. After all, the UK pulled all its troops out of Germany to save money back in 2015. There is no reason that the USA should bear the brunt of being the only peacekeeping force left in Germany.

Trump views the world (not always but for the most part) through an economic lens, so we can expect him to announce new investments in the USA.

bojancan
5th March 2025, 00:10
First Max... didn't the same thing happen to Blumenthal a few months ago? He was locked out of his X account... I am sorry to hear about what happened... this was not random for sure..
Let's ask Musk... Trump???? Yes, I am joking.. but it's happening not good stuff... free expressions!!!!

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If you follow Judge on X and his account @JudgeNap - this is an important message. Judge's X account has been compromised. The compromise happened on Feb 6, 2025 and that is the reason you've not seen any postings past that date.


We have exhausted all efforts to recover the compromised account, to no avail. This video is an appeal to @X & @ElonMusk to help us restore access.

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RunningDeer
5th March 2025, 00:32
Begins @ 9:00 (EST) - (1:30:00 from now)

LIVE: Donald Trump delivers speech to Congress

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Flash
5th March 2025, 00:35
There is NO fentanil from Canada (read my post)?and droplets of immigrants. You are drinking the lies and war cool aid. I cannot be louder here. NO ****zING FENTANIL. It is s lie.

Only predation from Trump-Putin.



If there is a dispute about the quantity of fentanyl seized at the Canadian border, I'm not aware of it.

As far as I know, the official quantity seized at the border in 2024, depending on the source, was anywhere between 43 - 50 pounds. (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/drug-seizure-statistics) (I've seen both estimates from official statistics). The former quantity was published by the U.S. Customs and Borders Protections--and reported by multiple sources--and have nothing to do with Trump or his rhetoric. But if you believe these statistics are inaccurate, or false, or some kind of agenda-laden propaganda, please elaborate. I'm interested to learn.

In sum, I'm inclined to trust the fact that fentanyl coming from Canada via China is not only a talking point from Trump, but also a reality. I'm not saying this reality is anything near the crisis the United States is seeing at its Southern border; I'm just saying it's a reality. In other words, it's not a lie. If anything, the facts underlining this reality have been confirmed by numerous leftist sources and tend to emphasize (or attempt to emphasize) just how minuscule the problem is relative to the amounts that come in through Mexico.

My point is--the "official" amount seized from the Canadian border is still enough to kill up to 11 million people.

The second point is, Canada appears to have a serious Fentanyl problem of its own. Are we really just content to turn a blind eye to this and pretend it's all lies?

The way I'm seeing it, not everything is always about Trump (or Putin).


"a lie" - really? These reports would seem to indicate otherwise.




https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1885925563036274790

1885925563036274790

Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
Every year, well over 300,000 Americans DIE from fentanyl and we’ve had enough of it.

Two smugglers were caught accidentally in Alberta, Canada this week with enough fentanyl to kill over 10 million people, and then there’s this fentanyl super lab in Vancouver BC busted five weeks ago only because of American law-enforcement.


https://x.com/ShaunRickard67/status/1886504110008180931

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Shaun Rickard
@ShaunRickard67
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Feb 3
From the horses mouth, for all those naïve enough to believe that fentanyl entering the US is not coming from Canada - The RCMP confirm that there are over 4,000 separate organized crime groups operating in Canada that are manufacturing & distributing huge amounts of fentanyl.



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Pamela
@pamihami
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Feb 2
According to the US Customs and Border Patrol, they stopped 19kg of fentanyl from entering the US through the Canadian border, while it's nothing compared to the southern border, the DEA says 1kg of fentanyl will kill 500K people.

I will not argue with stupidity. You talk in doses while we talk in weight. Of course a single grain can kill. How many grains in an ounce? But the sale is in weight, and there is almost nothing frim Canada. Trump confuses you, all the time. A recurrent tactic of sociopaths.

Also, this opioid crisis has been launched by an all American pharma selling opioids, are you forgetting? That pharma supported by your labs and your FDA snd most probably your CIA.

Support your Putin managed president, gosh Putin is bright creating division, go on. Or is it higher ups to which Trump complies in exchange to power thirst satisfaction and billions

Flash
5th March 2025, 00:37
Please Bill cancel my membership, I am not standing for a forum almost entirely American and furthermore Americans fully brainwashed by the extreme right of the political spectrum. They will support their crazy presudent even if he would nuclear bomb Canada. or others, with Putin satisfaction. .

RunningDeer
5th March 2025, 01:29
Please Bill cancel my membership, I am not standing for a forum almost entirely American and furthermore Americans fully brainwashed by the extreme right of the political spectrum. They will support their crazy presudent even if he would nuclear bomb Canada. or others, with Putin satisfaction. .




Dear Flash,

I’d encourage you to take a gone fishing break. These days, I find those breaks coming more frequently but I also bounce back faster. I've noticed that everything is speeding up for me.
.......................https://i.imgur.com/jVwsfPG.gif

https://i.imgur.com/RtehPAF.jpg

I vote for you to stay. https://i.imgur.com/1zXOufk.gif

Or how about before you decided to cancel your membership you can “Request a Sabbatical”? Go to your settings page and scroll down on the left side for link. But if your mind is made up then know that you'll be missed. I wish you continued health, joy and all else that's important to you along your journey.

Godspeed, C. https://i.imgur.com/pJjXOzt.gif

I also send along a hello to Mini-Flash/Zarema. https://i.imgur.com/LAk0Fum.gif

Paula :heart:

JackMcThorn
5th March 2025, 01:52
Please Bill cancel my membership, I am not standing for a forum almost entirely American and furthermore Americans fully brainwashed by the extreme right of the political spectrum. They will support their crazy presudent even if he would nuclear bomb Canada. or others, with Putin satisfaction. .

Do you really mean that? I mean, I read that and it is several blanket statements in basically one sentence. It appears emotionally charged rather than logically thought out. Why take your ball and go home? People disagree all the time.

Based on some of the discourse to-day, I asked myself the question - Is Canada a 'good friend' to the u.s. and I could not readily answer the question. I mean Canada seems more in tune with the Continent than with its close neighbor.

It made me think of a story though. I was a machinist working for a company that made parts for companies and some of them left the area to go to Canada because they thought they would improve their margins there. This one company was in the states over 5o years. They were a commercial bakery. Well, we found out after they moved all the way up there to Canada, they had to change their recipes because the law in Canada prohibited certain ingredients. Basically, they didn't do their due diligence and on top of it, our local area lost an iconic business where hundreds of people lost their jobs. One man was one month shy of 5o years with the company and they left before he hit his milestone. The grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.

In america, we have a ridiculous situation with our staunch two-party system. We have to pick the lessor of two evils and the person more likely to keep its promises. This is not an easy task especially since the rotten part of our government is decades old. Trump does some weird sh!t and says some strange things but he cannot be expected to be perfect and I think he was the better choice. I didn't vote because I had just returned to america after having been gone for over 6 years. I begrudgingly voted for him in 2o16 because Hillary was no where near the quality of character for the first woman president in my mind. But after seeing what is going on, america will be far better off considering this new team in the Executive. I'm not sorry that the emphasis is on america and its problems vice the world and its problems. But I often write about a need for a more isolated america, than a more involved one.

But I do think dissenting views are needed and I think you have a point regarding the drug problems.

thepainterdoug
5th March 2025, 01:56
Flash. not true, although I would not know how to prove that to you. its not true.
Speaking as an American , People want change. Change from what? Corruption and a rigged game, lying deceiving and evil.
Yet it's all rigged before we as souls arrived here. But not many can handle that concept.

People want change but when it arrives, they dont want discomfort. They want a comfortable change that works with thier ideals.
Ok I dont know how to change your mind, but recently I felt the same way. I thought of leaving PA as well . I even mentioned to Bill why, So if you stay I will stay. But if you leave, you wont know how to check if I stayed or not! lol

We are here for a reason and I say hang in there.
pd

ps and you have a hot avitar

Merkaba360
5th March 2025, 04:04
I don't know whether he will be able to pull out of NATO in the short term, but maybe can make it implode if congress isn't on board.

But im becoming more confident that they are planning a North American Union and it will happen eventually. We can no longer be using our military to police the whole world. They will be pulled back and police the NA Union. Gotta attack the cartels since they are controlling the mexican leaders. Help free them of the cartels and install a new leader if needed who wants the NA union.

Overthrow Trudeau (which is basically complete), the woke left to get in someone not aligned with Woke Europe. Not sure if Pierre would be down. USA will be the enforcer and high end tech and research driver as well as rich in resources. Canada will contribute a lot of resource manufacturing to send to USA for high tech manufacturing and Mexico as the new china low tech manufacturing.

This way they can secure all of NA. Oceans on 2 sides, Frozen tundra defending the north border, and a small border to defend south of mexico. Heck maybe they can get everyone down to panama on board and then the border is tiny.

Let Europe and Asia fight all their ancient never ending battles until they evolve out of it. But no chance in beating a NA Union on home turf in defense mode.

NA will be mostly self sufficient with 410 million population and slowly growing pulling in all the rich and smart people. brain drain. UK, Japan and Aussie will most likely be in too. Another 210 million people. A good number to oppose china domination, especially if India and/or Russia is supportive or joins.

It makes a lot of sense if the two factions are:
1. Destroy America and out of the ashes rebuild anew with the 4th industrial revolution (Europe bankers and oligrachs, china, etc. left)
2. Make a strong America to ride thru the 4th industrial rev. (Trump who lived his whole long great rich life in America likely wants this, etc.)

As if Americans choosing #2 are radical nuts wanting to nuke Canada or any other insanity. What was previously in power was pretty evil. Imagine wanting fake wars for profit. how extreme is that? Imagine believing that opposing warmonger human traffickers would look soft, kind, and sweet. smh.

Merkaba360
5th March 2025, 04:35
Please Bill cancel my membership, I am not standing for a forum almost entirely American and furthermore Americans fully brainwashed by the extreme right of the political spectrum. They will support their crazy presudent even if he would nuclear bomb Canada. or others, with Putin satisfaction. .

Extreme Right:

Ultra-nationalism - subjective but yea thats kinda needed now after decades of selling out our country from within as the founders predicted
White supremacy - Not the case, just look back in history to see what real racial supremacy movements did.
Neo-Nazism - Nazi/fascism made real hardcore moves to shut down opposition, so obviously isn't the case now. Most rights were non-existent
Neo-fascism - See above
Authoritarianism - See above
Nativism - Pretty much the whole world does this.
Xenophobia - This is a degree thing as all cultures have a bit of this. Japan and asia being FAR more extreme
Anti-immigration - Nothing burger here. Welcoming in smart and productive people who are vetted as well as some asylum seekers, etc.
Racial purity - LMAO , 0 chance in this, FAR too late in the game.
Anti-Semitism - The right isnt pushing to harm normal Jews. They may be anti cabal semitic or however u say it.
Anti-multiculturalism - Lol, go yell at asia and elsewhere for being extreme right for this.
Anti-government extremism - Not sure i understand this one. Isn't this good?
Chauvinism - Kinda need to be a bit extreme towards one's own cause since we were being sold out hard for decades. This is subjective
Theocracy - outdated
Reactionary conservatism -"opposes policies for the social transformation of society". Duh, we oppose the insane changes that were underway. But actually are now doing by far the most interesting changes.
Organicism - Organicism is the philosophical position that states that the universe and its various parts ought to be considered alive and naturally ordered, much like a living organism. (Kant?). Not sure how right wing extremists abuse this.
Ethnocentrism - Yawn....more like Nationalcentrism. Like every other nation has been doing except the accepting West
Populism (radical) - Yep, the elites have been radically disregarding our concerns for a long time.
Anti-democracy - the opposite of this. We want voter IDs and to secure fair elections and destroy NGO's and lobbyists corrupting democracy.
Hate-oriented ideology - There was far more hate when right wing attended left rallies vs left wing blacks being welcomed to right rallies.


I suppose the list may be longer but thats the Extreme Right terms AI listed for me.

onawah
5th March 2025, 05:16
Hey Flash, I've felt the way you are feeling now several times, and have gone on sabbatical a few times. It was usually over one particular issue (or another) that was bugging me. But I came back because there is still so much good information being shared on the forum, despite the imperfections.
I once tried to "cancel my membership" only to find that members are generally only unsubscribed if they are no longer welcome for some infraction of the rules, and the best I could hope for was to be "Retired", which I also did for a while.
I think you can go back and erase all your posts if you really feel so moved (but I don't know if they can be put back if your feelings change).
Anyway, you will be missed if you do Retire, and I hope you will give the forum a good once over to see if there aren't things worth staying for, and give it some more thought first.
In any case, you can still un-retire if you do decide to take that step.
Best wishes, :waving:
Natalie

Please Bill cancel my membership, I am not standing for a forum almost entirely American and furthermore Americans fully brainwashed by the extreme right of the political spectrum. They will support their crazy presudent even if he would nuclear bomb Canada. or others, with Putin satisfaction. .

kaiserschmarrn
5th March 2025, 05:38
Please Bill cancel my membership, I am not standing for a forum almost entirely American and furthermore Americans fully brainwashed by the extreme right of the political spectrum. They will support their crazy presudent even if he would nuclear bomb Canada. or others, with Putin satisfaction. .

please don't go. imho we all need to hear opposite thoughts. it's a necessity in democracies to hear what people with different mindsets say. we now have an unfortunate trend of people retreating into their own political bubbles, which is ultimately not good for us all.
i'm from austria and i voted left in my youth, now i vote far right - not because i don't like the basic ideas of the left anymore, but because i think they are deeply wrong about uncontrolled immigration and they support censorship (they call it protection from fake news, but that's not whats happening in reality) and they have temporarily taken away my civil rights during the covid crisis. i'm very rarely active in this forum, but what i learned is that, here at project avalon, people are treated with politeness and can speak their mind even if it sounds a bit crazy what they are talking about - that's a great feature. nobody is forced to believe anything, but everybody can speak his mind and can be heard - that's great and that's unfortunately not longer taken for granted in other online places. society used to be much more open in former times.

Johnnycomelately
5th March 2025, 07:49
Please Bill cancel my membership, I am not standing for a forum almost entirely American and furthermore Americans fully brainwashed by the extreme right of the political spectrum. They will support their crazy presudent even if he would nuclear bomb Canada. or others, with Putin satisfaction. .

Hi Flash. I don’t hope that you stay, when you say you want to part ways. I’ve read you enough, since your return, to know that your choices are informed by passion and powered by a deep resolve.

I do think that your stated reasons are wrong though. You can’t really believe that Trump would nuke Canada, that is just crazy talk. Same with singling out the American members as brainwashed. Heck, everybody here is a weirdo, from Bill on down.

I made friends last year with a man who quit PA, quit low-key and permanently. We emailed some, and talked a few times on the phone. I think he left because he was lonely at Avalon. I’ve felt loneliness here, when my occasional especially heartfelt posts have been ignored or misunderstood. I took it as a life lesson, decided to stop feeling sorry for myself, and began to select my engagements more carefully. I am less bothered by abrasive ideas or personalities, and am less moved by the gushy loviness common here. PA has become for me a kind of happy hunting ground, where I can find posts that make me happy, and where I can write words that make me happy.

Anyways, peace Sis.

norman
5th March 2025, 07:52
Why o why o why is it that common victimhood unifies us (people returned after years when the 2020-21 thing happened) but standing up resisting and fighting back splits us up again ?

At least, that's becoming the challenge to figure out and resolve. Isn't it ?

pyrangello
5th March 2025, 07:53
Life is like a pendulum, it swings far left, then far right but eventually comes back to center. The fentanyl issue here in the states is the number 1 killer in the age bracket for 19 thru 45 year olds, 1 American dies every 5 minutes in this bracket, my sis in law was on that list a few years ago, my friend who is a rspitory nurse of 40 years told me last month she has 1 patient a month she takes care of that come in and are brain dead from this drug, all they do is stare at the wall and get shipped to a nursing home .

In watching the address by Trump tonight I was stunned and embarrassed by the democrats sitting in that speech that refused to approve of anything Trump has suggested for the improvement of the American people. They just sat there with their phones looking down or raising their little ping pong paddles in opposition. It was disgusting, childish, immoral, and extremely disappointing of what they have become. And I'm an independent. But remember the pendulum and really it's all about the kids and us protecting them to pass the torch for a better society to manage. With over 300,000 children disappearing with this last administration in charge they failed miserably with that test.

jaybee
5th March 2025, 08:21
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well I think Trump's a bloody marvel, I really do...

all he's been through in the last 8 years - keeping his focus and yesterday delivering that long speech in the House - more or less word perfect with emotional balance -

I might even have popped over to Washington DC at the end... :) .... I went to sleep around 9 pm (UK time) then woke up in the night and thought I'd tune into the speech, live... it had already started and I watched till the end - - - as Trump was leaving and then the Democrat woman was starting her response I was getting tired and went into that drifting state -

Suddenly I was in a small, ordinary little side kitchen that I felt was somewhere near where the speech took place - standing in front of a sink looking for a spare mug to make tea - opening the cupboard underneath the sink, looking - but there were no cups or mugs they were all in use - a couple of people came over to help and were going to go off and find one for me but I smiled and said..... oh there's no need... I'm not really here - you'll never believe me but I'm in bed in England..... I sensed confusion and surprise and I woke up in my bed..... :-)

then drifted back to sleep again....

norman
5th March 2025, 08:36
President Trump Addresses Joint Session of Congress, March 4, 2025

https://rumble.com/v6q4sv6-president-trump-addresses-joint-session-of-congress-march-4-2025.html?start=2106

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bojancan
5th March 2025, 08:59
This man has never changed his principles... he has always stood up for the working class... what a difference he would have made as a president.. 2017

President Trump’s Congressional Address needs a response. Here’s mine.

QlrQKv1vN_4

jaybee
5th March 2025, 09:36
Life is like a pendulum, it swings far left, then far right but eventually comes back to center. The fentanyl issue here in the states is the number 1 killer in the age bracket for 19 thru 45 year olds, 1 American dies every 5 minutes in this bracket, my sis in law was on that list a few years ago, my friend who is a rspitory nurse of 40 years told me last month she has 1 patient a month she takes care of that come in and are brain dead from this drug, all they do is stare at the wall and get shipped to a nursing home .


I remember 30 years ago an astute friend of mine talking about drugs (the illegal variety) and especially heroin - how it was flooding countries like Britain, America, and Europe... deliberately to weaken the morale + the younger generation... + general population - - they were right and fentanyl looks like a very serious example of this -



In watching the address by Trump tonight I was stunned and embarrassed by the democrats sitting in that speech that refused to approve of anything Trump has suggested for the improvement of the American people. They just sat there with their phones looking down or raising their little ping pong paddles in opposition. It was disgusting, childish, immoral, and extremely disappointing of what they have become. And I'm an independent. But remember the pendulum and really it's all about the kids and us protecting them to pass the torch for a better society to manage. With over 300,000 children disappearing with this last administration in charge they failed miserably with that test.


perhaps the Democrat Party have taken the DEI thing far too far rather than selection by merit... and now they are paying the price...?

The tribalism is at ridiculous levels and none of them would dare show support for anything Trump promotes or does...no matter how worthy...

IMO (if left + right still has any meaning) Trump carries the 'centre right' and the 'centre left' with him - and some of the far left and far right are toning down their beliefs to become more populist.... those who earn a wage for opposing him - whether that be as a Politician or Internet Influencer aren't going to budge ... until the funds dry up or they get kicked out... :/

Rizotto
5th March 2025, 10:43
Very interesting analysis by economist Jeffrey Sachs on the implications of Trump's tariffs, foreign policy, potential NATO exit.

Prof. Jeffrey Sachs : Trump Saying Good Night to NATO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n0iD_xRFjg

SilentFeathers
5th March 2025, 11:50
In watching the address by Trump tonight I was stunned and embarrassed by the democrats sitting in that speech that refused to approve of anything Trump has suggested for the improvement of the American people. They just sat there with their phones looking down or raising their little ping pong paddles in opposition. It was disgusting, childish, immoral, and extremely disappointing of what they have become. And I'm an independent. But remember the pendulum and really it's all about the kids and us protecting them to pass the torch for a better society to manage. With over 300,000 children disappearing with this last administration in charge they failed miserably with that test.

The contempt and extreme hatred these Democrats displayed was beyond any kind of sane and humane behavior. It's beyond disgusting, it's demonic and evil.

The only one time they clapped was when Trump mentioned the US spending billions of dollars in support of the Ukraine war where death and carnage abounds.

The Democrats have really turned in to an insane hate and death cult in my opinion.

Tintin
5th March 2025, 13:33
"In October 2024, Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos posted on Musk’s “X” platform an alluring statement: “The Network State for Mars is being formed before our eyes.” Musk enthusiastically replied, “The Mars Technocracy.” To which Bezos responded, “Count me in.”

As he continues to dream about colonising Mars, Musk has made it abundantly clear which political system he prefers. In 2019, he wrote: “Accelerating Starship development to build the Martian Technocracy.” Note his use of the word “accelerating.” For Musk “accelerating” doesn’t simply mean an increase in velocity.

Musk has long advocated Universal Basic Income. Here’s one instance of his embrace of UBI: At the World Government Summit in 2017, Musk said, “We will have to have some kind of universal basic income.” Another example: In June 2024, speaking with then-Prime Minister Rishi Sunak at the UK-convened first global “AI Safety Summit,” Musk painted a Utopian vision of an artificial intelligence-dominated society and “an age of abundance” before adding, “We won’t have universal basic income, we’ll have universal high income.” In other words, he was suggesting that the masses would have perfect “lives of abundance” enabled by the ultimate AI-controlled distribution of UBI."

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In this most interesting of articles Iain Davis exhorts us to pay very careful attention to what is truly and incrementally (in fact now accelerating) being introduced via D.O.G.E and some of the influential billionaire figures now driving some of this new administration's policies.


"To appreciate why people like Musk and Bezos are so enthused by the prospect of Technocracy, we must understand the full extent of Technocracy. We must grasp not just what it is superficially portrayed to be, but also recognize its deep, dark, humanity-mutating, society-altering intentions and aims.

Technocracy does not merely call for technocratic governance—that is, a sociopolitical system where qualified experts, or “technocrats,” rather than politicians, set policy." - Iain Davis, March 2025


We may well end up referring back to pieces such as this as we follow the days along.....

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The Dark MAGA Gov-Corp Technate — Part 1
By Iain Davis
Published: March 4th, 2025
Publication: Unlimited Hangout (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/)


What does the title of this article—not to mention each unusual word in it — even mean? This is not a rhetorical question. We urgently need to understand each term. A precise political philosophy underpins each. A combination of these interrelated philosophies has been embraced — either in part or in their entirety — by some of the most powerful people on the planet. If we misapprehend how these controllers and influencers think, we risk blindly accepting whatever world order they wish to impose — and end up wondering how and why we find ourselves subjected to it.

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Related (by the same author): from October 6, 2024

The Dark Enlightenment (https://iaindavis.com/the-dark-enlightenment/)

mountain_jim
5th March 2025, 13:41
In watching the address by Trump tonight I was stunned and embarrassed by the democrats sitting in that speech that refused to approve of anything Trump has suggested for the improvement of the American people. They just sat there with their phones looking down or raising their little ping pong paddles in opposition. It was disgusting, childish, immoral, and extremely disappointing of what they have become. And I'm an independent. But remember the pendulum and really it's all about the kids and us protecting them to pass the torch for a better society to manage. With over 300,000 children disappearing with this last administration in charge they failed miserably with that test.

The contempt and extreme hatred these Democrats displayed was beyond any kind of sane and humane behavior. It's beyond disgusting, it's demonic and evil.

The only one time they clapped was when Trump mentioned the US spending billions of dollars in support of the Ukraine war where death and carnage abounds.

The Democrats have really turned in to an insane hate and death cult in my opinion.


Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
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10h
If you can't stand up and cheer for a kid with brain cancer being made an honorary member of the Secret Service, then you might be a deeply disturbed and ****ed up person!!!



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GlQgtUKX0AEt7qe?format=png&name=small

Mark (Star Mariner)
5th March 2025, 16:07
What a hilarious blunder.

The term "Freudian slip" was invented for this.

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"..and we are going to continue to speak lies to his truth..."
😂😂
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https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1897075216121257992
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Finally, some truth!

Democrat Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove:

"We are going to continue to fight back, and we are going to continue to speak lies to his truth, to his stealing and to his cheating."

TrumanCash
5th March 2025, 16:57
Gen. Flynn Names VICTORIA NULAND In Trump Assassination Plot, Says ‘Big Money Laundering Operation’ in Ukraine Will Be EXPOSED

https://twitter.com/i/status/1896864455083933704
1896864455083933704

bojancan
5th March 2025, 17:53
Just finished listening the interview with Ralf Nader... I always liked Nader... he was always for the people...
Yes... I guess... rich people, oligarchs and technocrats getting what they want... for sure at the expense of everyone else... and that is worth applauding if you happen to be rich... isn't it?????????

"A Declaration of War Against the American People": Ralph Nader on Trump's Address to Congress
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President Donald Trump delivered the longest presidential address to a joint session of Congress in modern history Tuesday night, laying out his vision for the next four years as he defended his many executive actions to dismantle large portions of the federal government.
For an hour and 40 minutes, Trump repeatedly lied and exaggerated his accomplishments and his opponents' failures, deploying racist and dehumanizing language to describe immigrants, LGBTQ people and his critics.
Trump heaped praise on billionaire Elon Musk and his efforts to slash entire government agencies.
The speech was "a declaration of war against the American people, including Trump voters, in favor of the super-rich and the giant corporations," says Ralph Nader, longtime consumer advocate, corporate critic and former presidential candidate.


This is also interesting... very interesting!!!!


Fact-Check: Juan González on Trump's "Outrageous" Lies About Panama Canal
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We speak with the acclaimed science fiction author, activist and journalist Cory Doctorow, who has spent decades writing and thinking about the impact of technology on our lives.

He coined the term "en****tification" to describe how online platforms degrade the user experience over time in search of profits, though it has been widely adopted to describe a larger sense of decline and decay across society. He discusses his new book "Picks and Shovels", Silicon Valley's big bet on artificial intelligence to discipline its workers, and billionaire Elon Musk's work in the Trump administration.

"The point of this chaotic blitz is to demoralize their opponents," Doctorow says of Musk's work through DOGE, which has gutted government agencies and wide swaths of the federal workforce. "In the reality-based world, even if you are worried about government waste, even if you want to make government smaller, you have to acknowledge the empirical fact that payroll accounts for 4% of the federal budget."

Eric J (Viking)
5th March 2025, 20:13
Fun and games……someone’s pulling his strings.


BREAKING:

🇺🇦🇺🇲🇷🇺 Zelensky has played Trump once again and announced that he would not negotiate with Russia

After Zelensky announced yesterday that he was ready to negotiate with Russia, he has changed his mind again today.

Zelensky does not want to discuss anything with Russians and make any concessions.

He apologizes to Trump, but has not changed his opinion nor approach.

https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1897262708011229490
1897262708011229490

Bill Ryan
5th March 2025, 20:32
In watching the address by Trump tonight I was stunned and embarrassed by the democrats sitting in that speech that refused to approve of anything Trump has suggested for the improvement of the American people. They just sat there with their phones looking down or raising their little ping pong paddles in opposition. It was disgusting, childish, immoral, and extremely disappointing of what they have become. And I'm an independent. But remember the pendulum and really it's all about the kids and us protecting them to pass the torch for a better society to manage. With over 300,000 children disappearing with this last administration in charge they failed miserably with that test.

The contempt and extreme hatred these Democrats displayed was beyond any kind of sane and humane behavior. It's beyond disgusting, it's demonic and evil.

The only one time they clapped was when Trump mentioned the US spending billions of dollars in support of the Ukraine war where death and carnage abounds.

The Democrats have really turned in to an insane hate and death cult in my opinion.I watched the whole thing — the first time I've ever done so.

I was surprised to be impressed, while the behavior of the attending Democrats in several instances almost lacked any humanity. This has been viewed and commented on by so many now that it's hard to see how they might recover from this.

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Of interest, and showing that these damaged people are well in the minority, here are the results from 3 YouGov polls, published (astonishingly) by CBS.

https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Trump's_speech_poll_1.jpg

https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Trump's_speech_poll_2.jpg

https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Trump's_speech_poll_3.jpg

Bill Ryan
5th March 2025, 20:40
This man has never changed his principles... he has always stood up for the working class... what a difference he would have made as a president.. 2017

President Trump’s Congressional Address needs a response. Here’s mine.

QlrQKv1vN_4@bojancan, did you watch the address? The whole thing?

I'd bet quite a lot that you didn't.

SilentFeathers
5th March 2025, 21:12
Fun and games……someone’s pulling his strings.


BREAKING:

🇺🇦🇺🇲🇷🇺 Zelensky has played Trump once again and announced that he would not negotiate with Russia

After Zelensky announced yesterday that he was ready to negotiate with Russia, he has changed his mind again today.

Zelensky does not want to discuss anything with Russians and make any concessions.

He apologizes to Trump, but has not changed his opinion nor approach.



Zelensky will derail and sabotage every step of the way when it comes to anyone trying to stop this war.

He will not agree to anything that doesn't include Ukraine becoming a member of NATO and Russia returning all occupied land, including Crimea.

Zelensky and almost every psychotic globalist in the EU, and now even Turkey are basically hellbent on starting WW3. No one's acting at all about peace except Trump. All these EU psychopaths and Turkey are only talking about sending billions of dollars to Ukraine, massive amounts of weapons and hardware, and thousands of troops. This is insane, Putin has to see this as an offensive military build up, not a gesture towards a cease fire and peace agreement.

Trump really stirred up a hornets nest of war-mongering psychopaths with peace being the last thing on their minds.

bojancan
5th March 2025, 21:19
This man has never changed his principles... he has always stood up for the working class... what a difference he would have made as a president.. 2017

President Trump’s Congressional Address needs a response. Here’s mine.

QlrQKv1vN_4@bojancan, did you watch the address? The whole thing?

I'd bet quite a lot that you didn't.

Hi Bill... I WAS watching the whole thing... Yes, with some part of his speech, I agree... but more than that.. I do not have a trust in him... many topics, he didn't touch at all, which are very important to acknowledge ... I still see in him a imperialistic kind of guy... hungry of intentions, money and self-serving human being... there were some lies very in open out he likes to do as always...
Yes, I am not in my mind and soul involve and occupied with this dem party in US... as always I was not... I am in my heart free of any partisan way of thinking...
For sure, I didn't like dems behaviour yesterday either..

With videos I added... I do not agree with everything Bernie stands... but, he is right regarding about those 60% unprivileged citizens .. what should have to be done for them... they didn't mentioned it at all... we know in what situation they are...

Regarding Ukraine... yes... Palestine... not mention either...
As I red Unlimited Hangout.. I am subscribed too as... Tin Tin added here... I see in this administration, that technocracy is really based on the belief... that there are technological solutions to all problems... as political.. social.. and economic ones...
Missing here is pursuit of spiritual and well being state of the people..
I was missing quite a lot in his speech yesterday...

Thank you..

Mike
5th March 2025, 22:20
I listened to the whole thing too. Trump was brilliant. He's just really evolved into this role beautifully I think. He's still combative and obnoxious at times but it's mostly charming and funny now while in the past it might have come off as puerile or bitter. He just looks totally comfortable now. He has the grace and ease of someone who knows he can't be beat. He's like Neo after he learned to dodge and then just stop the bullets. He's in the zone.

I loved the speech. It was historic, the best I've ever heard.

Bill Ryan
6th March 2025, 00:58
Regarding Ukraine... yes... Palestine... not mention either...He never mentioned Iran. And only briefly referred to China with respect to tariffs, not with respect to any possible future military conflict.

It was basically a State of the Union address. It was about America, not about geopolitics.

We're all assuming that had you been in the audience, you'd have sat there silently and refused to stand or clap at all at anything, whatever it was, even the genuinely heartwarming and touching personal moments. Because like the Democrat Members of Congress, you just deeply hate Trump so much whatever he actually does.

Are we correct?

Bluegreen
6th March 2025, 01:35
Dems at the speech

Possibly the greatest sin of the working world, of which we are all part of – unprofessional

SilentFeathers
6th March 2025, 01:56
I think I figured out why Trump dislikes Zelensky so much, he finally for the first time in his life met a better and more cunning deal maker than himself.

Some say Trump is worth several billion dollars over a lifetime of "deal making".

But, just in a few short years of "deal making" Zelensky got some say 300 billion from the USA and perhaps another 100 billion or so dollars from several other countries during that same 3 year period of time.

Zelensky also built up a whole military, got the US to pay for his countries pensions, social services, etc., all kinds of other humanitarian aid, bought personal homes and properties all over the world, etc etc etc.

Hell, Zelensky is challenging Musk's status of being the richest man on Earth!

Then, about a week ago Zelensky comes within micro seconds of securing another half a trillion dollar deal from the US but perturbs Trump and the deal gets delayed. Zelensky shrugs it off, does a few lines of coke, and within hours he is in the UK scooping up a few billion from Starmer. Within less than a week after his meeting with Starmer he's got numerous countries agreeing to send him hundreds of billions in cash, weapons, hardware, aid, well,,,,,really anything he wants or needs.

Zelensky needs to write a book and title it, "The Real Art of the Deal"

bojancan
6th March 2025, 02:16
Regarding Ukraine... yes... Palestine... not mention either...He never mentioned Iran. And only briefly referred to China with respect to tariffs, not with respect to any possible future military conflict.

It was basically a State of the Union address. It was about America, not about geopolitics.

We're all assuming that had you been in the audience, you'd have sat there silently and refused to stand or clap at all at anything, whatever it was, even the genuinely heartwarming and touching personal moments. Because like the Democrat Members of Congress, you just deeply hate Trump so much whatever he actually does.

Are we correct?

If is not about geopolitics... than, why he was talking about Panama and Greenland ...
in that way it is really grabbing foreign lands... one way or another.. he said!
I know about him a lot... his whole life was open book.. his businesses life and personal one was not so honest...
From woman's side.. view point of look at him as a man and businessman... he is small and I can not respect him...

Hate??? Why everyone is repeating so much this word hate??? I do not hate no-one... because hate is very dangerous feeling, you can get ill quick because of it... I do not want to cause damage to myself... I just want to understand, how this man with his past.. behaviour and stile of living get so many people on his side.... how could that kind of man, mind controlled and brainwashed so big audience...

If I would be in the room... already sitting there... and if I would be part of those democratic bunch of people there... I do not respect them... I would applause or stand up, if I would be in sync with Trump's topic...
It's silly.... who are you all... assuming that had I been in audience... I would just sit there silently etc... Bill... it's silly!!!
Have a nice evening... :waving:

One day, some secrets many people already know... may be exposed... and opinion about this man will be changed...

rgray222
6th March 2025, 03:50
The hubris and the hypocrisy of the democrats are beyond the pale. These people hate Trump with such ferocity that they are willing to destroy their own self-worth and their political party. Not to stand and applaud a child with brain cancer or the mothers of children who were murdered. I have never in my life witnessed such hideous behavior. The country was watching and once seen it can not be unseen.

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T Smith
6th March 2025, 04:12
The hubris and the hypocrisy of the democrats are beyond the pale. These people hate Trump with such ferocity that they are willing to destroy their own self-worth and their political party. Not to stand and applaud a child with brain cancer or the mothers of children who were murdered. I have never in my life witnessed such hideous behavior. The country was watching and once seen it can not be unseen.



I'm not making an excuse for it--or condoning the behavior we saw last night in any way. Just observing it clinically.

It's a sickness. It really is. These people aren't well--none of them.

The very alarming thing about this condition is--there are millions of millions of people walking the streets like this.

norman
6th March 2025, 07:53
The silence of the dems during Trump's speech looked, to me, as if someone behind their whole movement in the US has issued a decree (for now) of absolute defiance and resistance. Remember what we heard about the people at the FBI who were dead set on total resistance too.

What options do they have ?

They need a miracle from their god. Their god is not going to deliver one if they cave in. They absolutely have to show total commitment to their god, just like we have to do with our god (yes even the fence sitting atheists among us)

Seriously, do not under estimate how 'spiritual' this war is among the magicians running their side and some parts of 'our' side still.

BMJ
6th March 2025, 11:10
Sometimes things are not what they appear to be.

I'm really starting to think we all just witnessed the biggest sting in history and Trump out played everyone....

You think it might have something to do with Q and Patriots in the US and abroad, I wonder ???

SilentFeathers
6th March 2025, 11:59
Sometimes things are not what they appear to be.

I'm really starting to think we all just witnessed the biggest sting in history and Trump out played everyone....

You think it might have something to do with Q and Patriots in the US and abroad, I wonder ???

More so to do with Trumps foreign policy and strategy as to how he's going about it.

BMJ
6th March 2025, 12:24
President Trump Addresses Joint Session of Congress, March 4, 2025

I watched the address in its entirety and it was a beautiful thing to behold, and everytime the camera panned across to the dems and millions witnessed their stern defiance of every Team Trump achievement I thought weren't this guys in the dems elected by the people to serve the people and the country.

But they do everything but serve their country and people.

Once the winning is sooooo good it's undeniable I don't think dem's are going to exist as a party any more maybe as soon a the next election. Because its going to be in your face obvious that they do not work for the people (most definitely for AIPAC and other donors).

Then look across the pond to Europe/EU/NATO and the fact they want a proxy war any cost with a Russia, regardless of the peace the US and Russia want. Then i wonder how long is it going to be before the people of UK & Europe will have enough and may have their own civil war or revolution and do a bit of ethnic cleansing of the luciferian elite in NATO, EU and other halls of power.

I think there is a powder keg in Europe and it is going to explode and its just a matter of time.

mountain_jim
6th March 2025, 12:57
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GlUFh4uWcAEGLIu?format=jpg&name=900x900

Mark (Star Mariner)
6th March 2025, 13:06
It's a sickness. It really is. These people aren't well--none of them.

The very alarming thing about this condition is--there are millions of millions of people walking the streets like this.

But owing to the disgusting behaviour of their party some of them may just have had a small wake up call.

It's like the bubble cracked, the clouds parted, the curtain twitched for just an instant -- and they saw what was lurking behind it:

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https://x.com/KarluskaP/status/1897453387915878555
Karli Bonne’ 🇺🇸
@KarluskaP
The Democrat party turning off more and more people!

Bill Ryan
6th March 2025, 13:13
It's a sickness. It really is. These people aren't well--none of them.

The very alarming thing about this condition is--there are millions of millions of people walking the streets like this.Here's Megyn Kelly, just 7 minutes on exactly this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6v8Daqj2y8

Here's what she said, starting at 3:00. It's all spot-on correct. (Chris Martenson has pointed out the very same thing many times now.)

~~~
It's such a strange syndrome. TDS is a very strange syndrome. It really should be in the DSM-5. [The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Illnesses.]

And it's it's very unfortunate, because once afflicted you really cannot get out from under it. It's like a personality disorder. If you have a personality disorder, it's almost impossible to get out of it. Maybe it IS impossible.

My Mom's in the psychiatric field. Now she's retired, but she was telling me a lot of psychiatrists just won't even try to treat that same thing. Like with sociopaths, there's really no curing of sociopathy. And there's no curing you of TDS. Once you get it, it's a it's a lifelong affliction. And it really does warp the way you see everything around you.

Merkaba360
6th March 2025, 14:07
that is why I really hope he keeps accelerating things and exposing more huge truth bombs. It would be interesting to see the opposition get to be the vast minority.

Unconscious people really need the group think and being part of the majority. If those in your worldview shrink from 50% to 20% or lower then that becomes an increasing pressure on them and feeling of being more alone and powerless.

Trump exposing networks of underground facilities and tunnels involving 1000s of little ones would be my wish. That will be really hard to spin. This scenario might be the ultimate psych evaluation study. It would be something like your mortal enemy saving your sons life. Would that be enough to break their TDS. lol

Exposing big pharma and what other poisons do to us would also be a good one, but thats a bit easier to deny the evidence.

They tried to ruin his reputation and bankrupt him. I sure hope thats his plan to expose them enough to ruin many reputations and they already are stripping a lot of money from them. lol Unless putting him thru all that was a big plan and theatre, It is a genius orchestration by the universe to motivate him to enact revenge by reversing the same on all those scumbags.

Wasn't he supposed to make a huge announcement yesterday? Was it that event speech? Something he said (i havent watched it ) or just knew he was going to make them look bad?

SilentFeathers
6th March 2025, 14:13
It's a sickness. It really is. These people aren't well--none of them.

The very alarming thing about this condition is--there are millions of millions of people walking the streets like this.

But owing to the disgusting behaviour of their party some of them may just have had a small wake up call.

It's like the bubble cracked, the clouds parted, the curtain twitched for just an instant -- and they saw what was lurking behind it:

1897453387915878555
https://x.com/KarluskaP/status/1897453387915878555
Karli Bonne’ 🇺🇸
@KarluskaP
The Democrat party turning off more and more people!

In my opinion there are only a VERY small percentage of people that can actually snap out of this derangement syndrome, most have permanently broken brains and will never snap out it.

The extreme contempt, hatred, and hypocritical or illogical behavior is just a symptom of the true "syndrome or condition" that is devouring the spirit and soul. Once the spirit and soul is devoured, well, there's no coming back from that. This is really something demonic and evil in my opinion, beyond a mental illness or disorder. That's the way I see it through my own perspective, I personally can't explain it any other way. It's the true spiritual battle between good and evil our ancestors from all parts of the globe have warned us about since the beginning of time.

mountain_jim
6th March 2025, 14:29
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1897470032612851893

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Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

NEW: Astronaut says Elon Musk is “absolutely factual” after a WaPo reporter asked him about how Musk said his rescue efforts were denied for political reasons.

Musk was condemned by the media for making the comment but it appears the astronauts agree.

Reporter: “Elon Musk has said that he made the offer to bring you guys back earlier and that it was denied. My first question is, is that true?”

Barry Wilmore: “I can only say that Mr. Musk, what he says is absolutely factual…”

The astronauts were only supposed to be in space for 8 days. They have been there for 9 months.

Musk had offered to retrieve them on his SpaceX capsule after the Boeing one started having problems. He was denied by the Biden admin.

During his recent episode with Joe Rogan, Musk said the Biden admin denied his request for political reasons because they didn’t want to hurt Kamala’s campaign.

mountain_jim
6th March 2025, 14:33
https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1897649837970968944

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The Vigilant Fox 🦊

@VigilantFox
NEW: Bill O’Reilly says Donald Trump is bringing the Democratic Party “on the verge of COLLAPSE.”

He says it could take 20 years — an entire generation — for Democrats to recover.

It turns out, when your entire platform revolves around hating and opposing Trump, you no longer have a platform worth running on.

O’Reilly explains:

“I think the Democratic Party is on the verge of collapse. And I liken it to 1931, when Herbert Hoover and the Republican Party basically said to the very suffering American people in the Depression, ‘We’re not helping you. You got to do it on your own. It’s all about self-reliance. We’re not going to give you any safety nets.’ That led to five consecutive Democratic wins. Five. Not until Dwight Eisenhower, 20 years later, did the Republicans recover. I see the same scenario for the Democrats.”

“What happened [to the Democratic Party]? What happened was Trump hatred. And that’s what the headline is of the speech [Tuesday] night. When you are hating someone, you lose all perspective, you lose all feeling, you’re consumed. And I wrote a book, it’s going to be out in September, called Confronting Evil. And these people who did all these terrible things, they all had one thing in common. They hated. They were just haters across the board. That’s what you saw in that chamber last night.”

Mike
6th March 2025, 15:40
The hubris and the hypocrisy of the democrats are beyond the pale. These people hate Trump with such ferocity that they are willing to destroy their own self-worth and their political party. Not to stand and applaud a child with brain cancer or the mothers of children who were murdered. I have never in my life witnessed such hideous behavior. The country was watching and once seen it can not be unseen.



I'm not making an excuse for it--or condoning the behavior we saw last night in any way. Just observing it clinically.

It's a sickness. It really is. These people aren't well--none of them.

The very alarming thing about this condition is--there are millions of millions of people walking the streets like this.



Like SilentFeathers I'm of the mind that this sickness is an expression of something far deeper, something evil. Increasingly I'm viewing this TDS phenomenon (and all it's tentacles) in a religious or spiritual context. I think it's just good ol' fashioned good vs evil here.

I mentioned on a recent thread that I commented on my uncles's FB posts on the Ukraine war. The thread was filled with Trump deranged types, and I walked away from it thinking that these people would really rather see thousands more Ukrainians and Russians die in an endless war than see Trump get credit for ending the thing.

What they're doing by "defending Ukraine" is dressing up their hatred for Trump as a virtue. And it's not obvious to me that all of them are aware of it. There's a brainwashing or a possession of some sort in play here; I know we've discussed it on the forum but it's original cause remains elusive.

T Smith
6th March 2025, 15:46
Unconscious people really need the group think and being part of the majority. If those in your worldview shrink from 50% to 20% or lower then that becomes an increasing pressure on them and feeling of being more alone and powerless.



From a more humane perspective, we can hope a shrinking support group may trigger a wave of self-reflection and re-examination of the world, rather than a hopeless state of solitude and powerlessness (which can be a danger to society and to the social order in general). It's not hyperbolic to claim this condition should be in the DSM-5--it's a real thing, and as Chris Martenson and others point out, there may be no cure (at least for some). But I do reserve some hope that as the Trump administration continues to "pull back the curtain" we will have an opportunity to welcome some of those afflicted with TDS back to sane society.

To underscore your point, I think it's vital to continue to accelerate the truth bombs to have any hope at all of this, no matter how crazy the protestors get and whatever degree of resistance a certain demographic of society wages. As in, floor it. Any pulling back now or caving to crazy, e.g. capitulating to violence at Tesla dealerships, etc., will only empower those with TDS and will risk those who may have a chance to slipping back into derangement land.

We are rife for a paradigm shift of understanding--we can only hope this team of leaders have the courage to see it through.

T Smith
6th March 2025, 15:54
What they're doing by "defending Ukraine" is dressing up their hatred for Trump as a virtue. And it's not obvious to me that all of them are aware of it. There's a brainwashing or a possession of some sort in play here; I know we've discussed it on the forum but its original cause remains elusive.

One can only wonder if this (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129306-Self-replicating-mind-control-nanobots-in-vaccines-becoming-ubiquitous) has anything to do with the cause...

Mark (Star Mariner)
6th March 2025, 15:55
Oh God...looks like some of these people will be shipping over here. Like we don't have enough problems already!

Bizarrely, at the same time, some of us are looking to ship over to you. I guess you could call this a cultural exchange!

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SilentFeathers
6th March 2025, 16:03
The hubris and the hypocrisy of the democrats are beyond the pale. These people hate Trump with such ferocity that they are willing to destroy their own self-worth and their political party. Not to stand and applaud a child with brain cancer or the mothers of children who were murdered. I have never in my life witnessed such hideous behavior. The country was watching and once seen it can not be unseen.



I'm not making an excuse for it--or condoning the behavior we saw last night in any way. Just observing it clinically.

It's a sickness. It really is. These people aren't well--none of them.

The very alarming thing about this condition is--there are millions of millions of people walking the streets like this.



Like SilentFeathers I'm of the mind that this sickness is an expression of something far deeper, something evil. Increasingly I'm viewing this TDS phenomenon (and all it's tentacles) in a religious or spiritual context. I think it's just good ol' fashioned good vs evil here.

I mentioned on a recent thread that I commented on my uncles's FB posts on the Ukraine war. The thread was filled with Trump deranged types, and I walked away from it thinking that these people would really rather see thousands more Ukrainians and Russians die in an endless war than see Trump get credit for ending the thing.

What they're doing by "defending Ukraine" is dressing up their hatred for Trump as a virtue. And it's not obvious to me that all of them are aware of it. There's a brainwashing or a possession of some sort in play here; I know we've discussed it on the forum but it's original cause remains elusive.

That's what we are seeing right now, the UK, EU, and others are going on a total war footing and preparing for a full scale war with Russia. It's insane. They would rather see there countries totally collapse and all their people killed rather than listen to Trump and go towards the path of peace. The EU is toast, I think we will see most of these European countries totally collapse sooner than later, even if they do back down from full scale war with Russia.

Trump needs to completely scrape this mineral deal with Ukraine and get the hell out of suicidal Europe. These globalist psychopaths are spiraling out of control and are heading towards full scale war, not peace.

Mark (Star Mariner)
6th March 2025, 16:24
There's a brainwashing or a possession of some sort in play here; I know we've discussed it on the forum but it's original cause remains elusive.

All down to the media mate, all of it, literally all of it.

The media is the mouth of the Sarlacc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarlacc). Once you fall in, the only way is down into its guts to be slowly digested forever.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/OriginalCarkoonSkirmishSarlaac.jpg

To ever get out, it takes the intervention of a powerful catalysing force -- a slap to the consciousness, and one's eyes forced open with matchsticks. I guess it's rare, but it can and does happen.

Take this guy. It took Hurricane Helene to break the spell and shatter his media-induced delusions.


Matt Van Swol
@matt_vanswol
Growth Marketing | Former Nuclear Scientist for US Dept of Energy | Ex-Photographer for @apple

If me, one year ago, saw me now, he wouldn’t recognize me at all.

A year ago, I thought @libsoftiktok was a bigot and a racist.

I was unknowingly trapped inside a media ecosystem that told me what to believe and how to think.

I repeated these same lines to others too, without ANY research of my own.

I walked around believing I was morally superior, that I had the “truth” and the “experts” on my side.

I was wrong.

I didn’t see it until Hurricane Helene hit us in Western North Carolina.

I didn’t see it until I watched the ENTIRE media ecosystem I trusted, ignore us, while we were screaming for help.

It was so shocking, so unbelievable, some days I questioned my own reality…

I never thought the media I knew and trusted would turn on me like that, and for what? An election? For politics?

Surely not… surely people suffering would overrule any political decision these media outlets would make, right?

No. It was all a lie.

Everything I thought I knew about the media, about politics, it crashed to the ground and shattered.

I got on X and for the first time, I started seeing the truth, I started sharing my own reality in Western North Carolina…

Honestly, I owe so many people on the right SO many apologies.

Once you break out of the bubble, once you see the media turn on you, once you see the entire apparatus is set up to point you in one direction like a wind-up toy soldier…

You cannot unsee it.

Thank you for the follow, @libsoftiktok

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Mike
6th March 2025, 17:01
Hey Mark, I love reading those stories. That guy may be the exception rather than the rule, but it's evidence that some people can snap out of the spell (and I think we can all agree it truly is a spell of some sort).

I mentioned this somewhere else on the forum once: I was never "woke" and I've always considered myself to be at least pretty well informed (or red-pilled), with some gaps of knowledge of course but always trending in the direction of common sense along with a "big picture" mentality. That's all accelerated quite a bit since 2020, but in 2016 I was a little green. I'd been on the forum for years and was aware of Hillary Clinton's corruption and immorality, but I still had a fear of Trump being elected. I knew he was a disruptor, and I wasn't sure if I really wanted to know what was on the other side of that curtain.

I think most people are at least dimly aware of how sinister and evil it is on the other side of that curtain, and are just psychologically unwilling or unprepared to confront it. They sense that their very sanity is hanging in the balance, and will fight to the death to preserve the lie rather than risk the mental and emotional side effects of grappling with the truth. I think that's at least part of the TDS thing we're seeing now.

re media: absolutely. They're doing all the damage. But I guess what I'm wondering is: what exactly is the force behind the media? We've all played this game many times here, and no one really knows the answer. I think when we abstract backwards from woke and TDS etc, we'll eventually arrive at some horrific evil. We've hypothesized many times here as to what that evil may be specifically: A.I.? Archons? Demons? Satan himself?? My feeling is that this whole thing reaches the depths of hell.

JackMcThorn
6th March 2025, 17:39
I have a thought as to what the force is behind the media; it is not the powers that be but rather; I think it is the consumer, often driven by fear.

It would behoove the media to reflect on Damocles Sword but they do not have to because it would take the consumer(s) to place the sword; which they have not done. But if the consumer would indeed control itself better, then the media would have to change in order to survive. This would take the efforts of many. I do not suggest that the only change would be in the insistence of a political shift but rather of a return to the duty to inform rather than a duty to promote. This promotion is worth a fortune and this is why it persists. Even so, in the non-main stream- the alt stream, the participants err on the side of promotion disguised as a duty to inform. That what piques the consumers' interest must be at least controversial enough to gain traction, to gain viewership, to gain repeat access, and finally monetary reward. The competition may be fierce; however, money talks.

So how does the consumer install Damocles Sword on the main stream? PA is a start but not nearly enough and is indeed a little divided in it's perceptions and realities. The point of the Sword is to demonstrate the sensitive nature of the masses versus a monarchal ruler that is indeed by all accounts outnumbered. Until the public; while divided, can unite against these faux rulers of information; the media will never feel the pressure to return to duty.

In the early 199o's a superbowl commercial cost $1m per 3o seconds. At the last superbowl, it cost $8m per 3o seconds. Keep the public divided and consequently entertained and nothing changes.

It really is our fault the media is the way it is.

mountain_jim
6th March 2025, 17:54
I have a thought as to what the force is behind the media; it is not the powers that be but rather; I think it is the consumer, often driven by fear.

It would behoove the media to reflect on Damocles Sword but they do not have to because it would take the consumer(s) to place the sword; which they have not done. But if the consumer would indeed control itself better, then the media would have to change in order to survive. This would take the efforts of many. I do not suggest that the only change would be in the insistence of a political shift but rather of a return to the duty to inform rather than a duty to promote. This promotion is worth a fortune and this is why it persists. Even so, in the non-main stream- the alt stream, the participants err on the side of promotion disguised as a duty to inform. That what piques the consumers' interest must be at least controversial enough to gain traction, to gain viewership, to gain repeat access, and finally monetary reward. The competition may be fierce; however, money talks.

So how does the consumer install Damocles Sword on the main stream? PA is a start but not nearly enough and is indeed a little divided in it's perceptions and realities. The point of the Sword is to demonstrate the sensitive nature of the masses versus a monarchal ruler that is indeed by all accounts outnumbered. Until the public; while divided, can unite against these faux rulers of information; the media will never feel the pressure to return to duty.

In the early 199o's a superbowl commercial cost $1m per 3o seconds. At the last superbowl, it cost $8m per 3o seconds. Keep the public divided and consequently entertained and nothing changes.

It really is our fault the media is the way it is.

I largely disagree (at least for all the 'news' outlets) - it's CIA / deep state Project Mockingbird infiltration with additional hidden funding from our tax dollars to prop the worst of it all up, not economics until now as the hidden funds are drying up.

JackMcThorn
6th March 2025, 23:02
I largely disagree (at least for all the 'news' outlets) - it's CIA / deep state Project Mockingbird infiltration with additional hidden funding from our tax dollars to prop the worst of it all up, not economics until now as the hidden funds are drying up.

That's okay and your point is noted but it is not all about economics. For every message, you need a sender and a receiver otherwise there is no message. If the receivers refuse the message; the sender must change something or no longer be heard. [The refusal is indeed a sent message in return.] This happens on a small scale here. The senders and receivers are generally in flux; some get the message, some do not. Some posters have an uncanny knack for their efforts, some do not. I think at scale, the people of a place could shut the media down; at least enough for the media to have to pivot and change. Otherwise, all we are getting is the programming - designed to inflict emotion and discourage thinking. Are the spooks really that good at controlling all of this information? I cannot be sure. But I do think being selective in our information sources at scale could have an influence, CIA be damned. Even Trump is navigating the media differently than any POTUS prior. But that is just one person. I'm talking more in the millions - hang that sword strung only by a horse hair and see what happens. That's all I'm saying.

BMJ
7th March 2025, 01:19
It's a sickness. It really is. These people aren't well--none of them.

The very alarming thing about this condition is--there are millions of millions of people walking the streets like this.

But owing to the disgusting behaviour of their party some of them may just have had a small wake up call.

It's like the bubble cracked, the clouds parted, the curtain twitched for just an instant -- and they saw what was lurking behind it:

1897453387915878555
https://x.com/KarluskaP/status/1897453387915878555
Karli Bonne’ 🇺🇸
@KarluskaP
The Democrat party turning off more and more people!

And that little old man behind the curtain was George Soros.

bojancan
7th March 2025, 01:19
I am adding this video also here... it's in Palestine thread... it's good one! Yes, Owen is a liberal... very very strong warrior for Palestine!!!

Trump: ARREST Gaza Protesters - "FREE SPEECH" Lies Exposed
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rgray222
7th March 2025, 03:26
I am adding this video also here... it's in Palestine thread... it's good one! Yes, Owen is a liberal... very very strong warrior for Palestine!!!

Trump: ARREST Gaza Protesters - "FREE SPEECH" Lies Exposed
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I went down this road with a friend the other day. He maintained that Trump was going to arrest anybody on college campuses that protested Israel. After a lot of back and forth and looking at video clips and Trump quotes. He had to admit that Trump said he would have anyone "illegally" protesting on college campuses.

I understand that this would include preventing students from getting to class, preventing campus workers from doing their job, damaging property, setting off fire alarms, obstructing traffic and impeding or resisting the police, as well as other illegal activity.

The keyword which this guy and the mainstream media intentionally leave out is ILLEGALLY protesting. As long as protester abide by the law, they can protest to their hearts' content.

onawah
7th March 2025, 05:47
Matt Taibbi shares his views on Trump and the free speech issue on Jimmy Dore's show
Trump CRACKS DOWN On Free Speech! w/ Matt Taibbi
The Jimmy Dore Show
1.49M subscribers
Mar 6, 2025

"In what can only be described as a stunning reversal on a key political issues, Republicans have now seized the mantle of supporting free speech away from Democrats — mostly owing to Democrats’ support for efforts to counter what they call “misinformation” and “hate speech” online.
But now Donald Trump appears to be willing to crack down on speech he doesn’t like as well, in particular criticisms of Israel and support for Palestinians.

Jimmy and investigative journalist Matt Taibbi discuss just how much Trump’s proposed measures against protesters will undermine his free speech bona fides among the MAGA faithful.

Follow Matt Taibbi’’s Substack here: https://taibbi.substack.com/
Follow Matt Taibbi on Twitter: / mtaibbi "

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bojancan
7th March 2025, 06:27
3,151,726 views Mar 6, 2025 #CNN #News
Canadian Foreign Minister Mélanie Joly talks to CNN's Christiane Amanpour about Trump's ideas on trade, military cooperation, annexation and more.

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One of the Comments :

"I'm Canadian and I've been so scared and stressed out about the threat of annexation that I can't sleep. My mom has Alzheimer's Disease and I'm in the process of helping her transition to a nursing home while I pack up her home and this conflict is putting me over the edge. I can't believe that the country I used to love to visit, and whose anthem I would sing at sporting events out of respect, is now an existential threat to us. My husband keeps telling me, "If the US tried to annex us, the rest of the world would turn on them." Reading the comments of support from people in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and all over the world means so much to me in this moment. Thank you all!"

jaybee
7th March 2025, 07:41
I went down this road with a friend the other day. He maintained that Trump was going to arrest anybody on college campuses that protested Israel. After a lot of back and forth and looking at video clips and Trump quotes. He had to admit that Trump said he would have anyone "illegally" protesting on college campuses.

I understand that this would include preventing students from getting to class, preventing campus workers from doing their job, damaging property, setting off fire alarms, obstructing traffic and impeding or resisting the police, as well as other illegal activity.

The keyword which this guy and the mainstream media intentionally leave out is ILLEGALLY protesting. As long as protester abide by the law, they can protest to their hearts' content.


Thanks for that - clearly there is a difference between free speech / non violent protest and protests on University Campus's that spiral into mayhem - and potential violence + vandalism - coming from the students but also sometimes, fired up by political agitators...

Merkaba360
7th March 2025, 09:03
He knows that the protesting and woke and non-citizen left hears "dictator style clamp downs on protestors" and such. He may be goin a bit over the top on purpose to scare them of harsh consequences as a deterrence.

If he does try pushing the law too far , his supporters can push back as well as the sea of haters lol.

Rizotto
7th March 2025, 10:04
Matt Taibbi shares his views on Trump and the free speech issue on Jimmy Dore's show
Trump CRACKS DOWN On Free Speech! w/ Matt Taibbi
The Jimmy Dore Show
1.49M subscribers
Mar 6, 2025

"In what can only be described as a stunning reversal on a key political issues, Republicans have now seized the mantle of supporting free speech away from Democrats — mostly owing to Democrats’ support for efforts to counter what they call “misinformation” and “hate speech” online.
But now Donald Trump appears to be willing to crack down on speech he doesn’t like as well, in particular criticisms of Israel and support for Palestinians.

Jimmy and investigative journalist Matt Taibbi discuss just how much Trump’s proposed measures against protesters will undermine his free speech bona fides among the MAGA faithful.

Follow Matt Taibbi’’s Substack here: https://taibbi.substack.com/
Follow Matt Taibbi on Twitter: / mtaibbi "

TdnNYBapTF4

Bad move. In his own words in a post he made, as shown in the above video, Trump threatens to imprison 'agitators'. What's an agitator? I'm reminded of Trump himself on January 6, 2020 when he encouraged protesters to walk over to the Capitol. That could very well fall under the meaning of 'agitator'. Agitating for political reforms is not illegal, but it could be made so under this new Trump rule if it's pro-Palestine reforms. Trump needs to seriously backtrack on this. It's bad enough that Israel is literally in control of US foreign policy, it gets much worse when criticism of this is suppressed.

Rizotto
7th March 2025, 10:20
3,151,726 views Mar 6, 2025 #CNN #News
Canadian Foreign Minister Mélanie Joly talks to CNN's Christiane Amanpour about Trump's ideas on trade, military cooperation, annexation and more.

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One of the Comments :

"I'm Canadian and I've been so scared and stressed out about the threat of annexation that I can't sleep. My mom has Alzheimer's Disease and I'm in the process of helping her transition to a nursing home while I pack up her home and this conflict is putting me over the edge. I can't believe that the country I used to love to visit, and whose anthem I would sing at sporting events out of respect, is now an existential threat to us. My husband keeps telling me, "If the US tried to annex us, the rest of the world would turn on them." Reading the comments of support from people in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and all over the world means so much to me in this moment. Thank you all!"


I don't think much of Melanie Joly or CNN, but can certainly relate to the comment you quoted above. Trump's threat of annexation has caused tremendous stress and hysteria. What I really see happening on Canadian social media is a bizarre worship of Trump, praising him for pushing down Turdeau, and insisting that becoming the 51st state would be a good thing. I don't believe that the majority of Canadians feel that way. The majority want to be rid of the Turdeau regime, and we'd like to vote them out.

However, the Trump worshippers won't accept any critical comment about Trump, even when proven by facts. It's literally turned into a cult, and it reminds me of the covidian cult in some ways. It's about the use of social media to police others and to shape an outrageous narrative that's out of touch with reality in many ways.

Personally I see that this use of social media is an intentional set up by certain entities to sway large numbers of people towards a certain goal, and it is very frightening to see so many hypnotized people fall for it.

Ben
7th March 2025, 12:12
Bumping this!

Essential reading for anyone wishing to look beyond the Punch and Judy show, that has the vast majority of people so entranced. It's a long and dense piece, and to really grasp the complex machinations of the systems that are being put in place at an ever-increasing, and breathtaking, velocity, one really does have to spend a bit of time and mental energy familiarising themselves with the context, history and players in this deranged game.



"In October 2024, Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos posted on Musk’s “X” platform an alluring statement: “The Network State for Mars is being formed before our eyes.” Musk enthusiastically replied, “The Mars Technocracy.” To which Bezos responded, “Count me in.”

As he continues to dream about colonising Mars, Musk has made it abundantly clear which political system he prefers. In 2019, he wrote: “Accelerating Starship development to build the Martian Technocracy.” Note his use of the word “accelerating.” For Musk “accelerating” doesn’t simply mean an increase in velocity.

Musk has long advocated Universal Basic Income. Here’s one instance of his embrace of UBI: At the World Government Summit in 2017, Musk said, “We will have to have some kind of universal basic income.” Another example: In June 2024, speaking with then-Prime Minister Rishi Sunak at the UK-convened first global “AI Safety Summit,” Musk painted a Utopian vision of an artificial intelligence-dominated society and “an age of abundance” before adding, “We won’t have universal basic income, we’ll have universal high income.” In other words, he was suggesting that the masses would have perfect “lives of abundance” enabled by the ultimate AI-controlled distribution of UBI."

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In this most interesting of articles Iain Davis exhorts us to pay very careful attention to what is truly and incrementally (in fact now accelerating) being introduced via D.O.G.E and some of the influential billionaire figures now driving some of this new administration's policies.


"To appreciate why people like Musk and Bezos are so enthused by the prospect of Technocracy, we must understand the full extent of Technocracy. We must grasp not just what it is superficially portrayed to be, but also recognize its deep, dark, humanity-mutating, society-altering intentions and aims.

Technocracy does not merely call for technocratic governance—that is, a sociopolitical system where qualified experts, or “technocrats,” rather than politicians, set policy." - Iain Davis, March 2025


We may well end up referring back to pieces such as this as we follow the days along.....

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The Dark MAGA Gov-Corp Technate — Part 1
By Iain Davis
Published: March 4th, 2025
Publication: Unlimited Hangout (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/)


What does the title of this article—not to mention each unusual word in it — even mean? This is not a rhetorical question. We urgently need to understand each term. A precise political philosophy underpins each. A combination of these interrelated philosophies has been embraced — either in part or in their entirety — by some of the most powerful people on the planet. If we misapprehend how these controllers and influencers think, we risk blindly accepting whatever world order they wish to impose — and end up wondering how and why we find ourselves subjected to it.

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Related (by the same author): from October 6, 2024

The Dark Enlightenment (https://iaindavis.com/the-dark-enlightenment/)

Tintin
7th March 2025, 12:35
What they're doing by "defending Ukraine" is dressing up their hatred for Trump as a virtue. And it's not obvious to me that all of them are aware of it. There's a brainwashing or a possession of some sort in play here; I know we've discussed it on the forum but it's original cause remains elusive.

100% :handshake:

For anyone socially who will listen this has been my comment, and more than once. If there was any other incumbent holding this office there's every chance - maybe -that they'd all be rallying around for a peaceful resolution. It's because it's Donald Trump.

Posted over here earlier (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129324-This-DEEP-DIVISION-is-Very-troubling&p=1659350&viewfull=1#post1659350), but, I'll repost it here as it speaks to what you've written:


Again, referencing Rudolf Steiner via Bernhard Guenther (https://x.com/veilofreality/status/1897856521113137297), here:


Demonic entities are attracted to the spiritual "spiritual vacuum" we currently live in, caused by a materialistic worldview and mindset that denies the spiritual reality. It is reinforced by passive living and over-identification with the physical body.

In today's materialistic world, most people seek comfort and convenience without spiritual growth, leading to a loss of deeper connection to their true selves.

This lifestyle keeps people disconnected from their souls, creating a "spiritual vacuum" that serves as an entry point for hostile spirits.

Excessive media consumption, disembodiment, head-centric living, and dissociation weaken the soul connection, making individuals susceptible to external occult influences without their awareness.

As people withdraw from Divine aspiration and inspiration, their physical bodies become exposed to control by non-human occult hostile forces.

Rudolf Steiner warned that future generations would have weakened or absent souls because of this “spiritual vacuum”, making their bodies vulnerable to occupation by demonic entities.

He also emphasized the importance of learning how to deal with evil, which will inevitably lead to encountering one’s own inner shadow and evil within. It is the cure to eventually transmute and dissolve all evil.

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"In ancient Greece, the body was still filled out by the entire human soul. Nowadays, that is no longer the case.

Bodies remain empty to a certain extent. But in reality, nothing in the world remains empty.

With the human soul withdrawing more and more from the body [due to over-identification with the physical body and lack of soul embodiment], the body is increasingly in danger of being filled with something else.

And if human beings are not prepared to take up impulses which can only come from spiritual knowledge [and practice], the body will be filled with demonic powers.

Humanity is facing a destiny where the body may be filled with ahrimanic demonic powers.

This shows the complexity of life to come. It is reasonable to say that there will be situations in the future when it will be difficult to know who one is dealing with."

- Rudolf Steiner (1917)

T Smith
7th March 2025, 12:57
I am adding this video also here... it's in Palestine thread... it's good one! Yes, Owen is a liberal... very very strong warrior for Palestine!!!

Trump: ARREST Gaza Protesters - "FREE SPEECH" Lies Exposed
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I went down this road with a friend the other day. He maintained that Trump was going to arrest anybody on college campuses that protested Israel. After a lot of back and forth and looking at video clips and Trump quotes. He had to admit that Trump said he would have anyone "illegally" protesting on college campuses.

I understand that this would include preventing students from getting to class, preventing campus workers from doing their job, damaging property, setting off fire alarms, obstructing traffic and impeding or resisting the police, as well as other illegal activity.

The keyword which this guy and the mainstream media intentionally leave out is ILLEGALLY protesting. As long as protester abide by the law, they can protest to their hearts' content.


This is precisely how legacy media--and videos like the one Bojancan posted--mislead.

Those on to the modus operandi of the mockingbird media apply translating filters accordingly, but this is exactly the type of disinformation so many others are susceptible to. It feeds TDS and literally creates a false and damaging paradigm of understanding the world.

A more critical (and honest) assessment of this story would focus on whether the protests deemed illegal by the Trump administration are overreaching or subjective. But that would be an honest assessment of Trump and these kind of sources just can't go there.

Simply, the video is fear porn and utter garbage.

T Smith
7th March 2025, 13:40
I largely disagree (at least for all the 'news' outlets) - it's CIA / deep state Project Mockingbird infiltration with additional hidden funding from our tax dollars to prop the worst of it all up, not economics until now as the hidden funds are drying up.

That's okay and your point is noted but it is not all about economics. For every message, you need a sender and a receiver otherwise there is no message. If the receivers refuse the message; the sender must change something or no longer be heard. [The refusal is indeed a sent message in return.] This happens on a small scale here. The senders and receivers are generally in flux; some get the message, some do not. Some posters have an uncanny knack for their efforts, some do not. I think at scale, the people of a place could shut the media down; at least enough for the media to have to pivot and change. Otherwise, all we are getting is the programming - designed to inflict emotion and discourage thinking. Are the spooks really that good at controlling all of this information? I cannot be sure. But I do think being selective in our information sources at scale could have an influence, CIA be damned. Even Trump is navigating the media differently than any POTUS prior. But that is just one person. I'm talking more in the millions - hang that sword strung only by a horse hair and see what happens. That's all I'm saying.

I think it is both supply/demand economics and social-engineering manipulation. I would liken it to lacing an addictive chemical in food--say candy. Yes, the supply of candy sold requires consumer demand, just as mockingbird media requires an audience. But remove the addictive chemical--e.g. "fear porn", coupled with the removal of subsidies to keep the production line humming, and there will soon be no more addicts, only dealers. The legacy media would then have to pivot or collapse. Up until now, however, legacy media hasn't had to pivot because their operations have been subsidized largely by sponsors of social-engineering propaganda, and the dealers of this operation know exactly how to keep a certain demographic hooked. But I'm not sure the demographic currently addicted to disinformation could sustain the message without all the subsidies from spooks, even given ramped-up support from Big Pharma et. al, whose operations at the end of the day (unlike government) are dictated by a profit/loss balance sheet.

Time will tell how it all plays out from here. But it would seem we are moving in a positive direction.

onawah
7th March 2025, 14:08
Rudolf Steiner on "soulless" people & vaccines.
(It's ironic that Trump helped to create just the kind of "soulless", Vaxxed people who are now suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome with his Vaxx policy on "Warp Speed". )

The quote from Steiner I first saw posted on Project Avalon in various threads reads as follows:
"In the future, we will eliminate the soul with medicine. Under the pretext of a ‘healthy point of view’, there will be a vaccine by which the human body will be treated as soon as possible directly at birth, so that the human being cannot develop the thought of the existence of soul and Spirit.
To materialistic doctors, will be entrusted the task of removing the soul of humanity. As today, people are vaccinated against this disease or that disease, so in the future, children will be vaccinated with a substance that can be produced precisely in such a way that people, thanks to this vaccination, will be immune to being subjected to the “madness” of spiritual life. He would be extremely smart, but he would not develop a conscience, and that is the true goal of some materialistic circles.
With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric body loose in the physical body. Once the etheric body is detached, the relationship between the universe and the etheric body would become extremely unstable, and man would become an automaton, for the physical body of man must be polished on this Earth by spiritual will. So, the vaccine becomes a kind of arymanique force; man can no longer get rid of a given materialistic feeling. He becomes materialistic of constitution and can no longer rise to the spiritual."

(Ahriman is essentially another name for Satan. I've never seen that spelling with a "y" before --"arymanique". )
No book, essay or lecture source of that quote from Steiner was provided that I've seen, however I found this:
https://www.oom2.com/t73827-in-1917-rudolf-steiner-foresaw-a-vaccine-that-would-drive-all-inclination-toward-spirituality-out-of-peoples-souls#156436

Taken from the large archive of Steiner's work here:
https://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA177/English/RSP1993/FalDar_index.html

I haven't read it all, but I did find an excerpt about vaccines in lecture 13 at:
https://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA177/English/RSP1993/19171027p01.html

LECTURE 13 The Fallen Spirits' Influence in the World
"I have told you that the spirits of darkness are going to inspire their human hosts, in whom they will be dwelling, to find a vaccine that will drive all inclination towards spirituality out of people's souls when they are still very young, and this will happen in a roundabout way through the living body. Today, bodies are vaccinated against one thing and another; in future, children will be vaccinated with a substance which it will certainly be possible to produce, and this will make them immune, so that they do not develop foolish inclinations connected with spiritual life — ‘foolish’ here, of course, in the eyes of materialists."

The full series of 14 lectures (or essays) entitled Fall of the Spirits of Darkness can be purchased in book form from Amazon and other sources as well.

I contacted the facilitator of the archive at:e.Librarian <elibrarian@elib.com
...to see if he could tell me where to find that first quote.

He replied:"Translated text can be very difficult to find, as different translators express what Steiner said differently."
and
"While the RS Archive has quite a bit of material, it does not have ALL of the material! There are around 2000 lectures that remain untranslated into English and several hundred articles, essays, etc.. As I mentioned, different translators present what Steiner said in different ways. With that in mind, the exact quote you are looking for may be hard to find! I do know that unless a Steiner quote is cited, it is probably not real! There are those forces out there that want to present their own agenda, and will deliberately offer proof by creating something that Steiner might have said, or that puts a different slant on what was actually said.

When I started the RS Archive some 40+ years ago, three of the big names in Anthroposophy at that time encouraged me to create the initiative, but also cautioned me that there are forces that do not want me to succeed, nor do they want Anthroposophy to succeed, and they will come at you from places where you least expect it. This, in my experience, has come true over and over again! Each of us has to evaluate all things, of ourselves, through our own means. Steiner has said several times that we should not believe anything he says! We should, of ourselves, find the truth in everything. Biblical scholars have been predicting the second coming and the end of the Earth being eminent, for centuries. While this might happen, it probably will not, for quite some time, at least not on the physical plane.

That said, run an RS Archive search on the single word, "vaccine", or "vaccinate", and you will get a list of choices the Archive has on those subjects:
https://wn.rsarchive.org/search=mode?query=vaccine&mode=context
https://wn.rsarchive.org/search=mode?query=vaccinate&mode=context
And! Don't believe anything I say!! Find out, of yourself. The journey is the important thing."

Dark Journalist discusses Steiner , the Theosophists and Edgar Cayce's works in many of his online shows.

Here are some which have been posted on Project Avalon recently:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102135-Dark-Journalist-Joseph-Farrell-UFO-X-Factor-Black-Budget-Secret-Space-Network-16-March-2018&p=1415568&viewfull=1#post1415568

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102135-Dark-Journalist-Joseph-Farrell-UFO-X-Factor-Black-Budget-Secret-Space-Network-16-March-2018&p=1409422&viewfull=1#post1409422

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102135-Dark-Journalist-Joseph-Farrell-UFO-X-Factor-Black-Budget-Secret-Space-Network-16-March-2018&p=1409333&viewfull=1#post1409333

--These last two feature Gigi Young, a psychic who is well versed in Anthroposophy and Theosophy. She gives talks and does readings from her sites here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo_fdaL6nGtL3fjyP8NsNaw
and
https://gigiyoung.com/shop/?tx_product_cat=courses



What they're doing by "defending Ukraine" is dressing up their hatred for Trump as a virtue. And it's not obvious to me that all of them are aware of it. There's a brainwashing or a possession of some sort in play here; I know we've discussed it on the forum but it's original cause remains elusive.

100% :handshake:

For anyone socially who will listen this has been my comment, and more than once. If there was any other incumbent holding this office there's every chance - maybe -that they'd all be rallying around for a peaceful resolution. It's because it's Donald Trump.

Posted over here earlier (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129324-This-DEEP-DIVISION-is-Very-troubling&p=1659350&viewfull=1#post1659350), but, I'll repost it here as it speaks to what you've written:


Again, referencing Rudolf Steiner via Bernhard Guenther (https://x.com/veilofreality/status/1897856521113137297), here:


Demonic entities are attracted to the spiritual "spiritual vacuum" we currently live in, caused by a materialistic worldview and mindset that denies the spiritual reality. It is reinforced by passive living and over-identification with the physical body.

In today's materialistic world, most people seek comfort and convenience without spiritual growth, leading to a loss of deeper connection to their true selves.

This lifestyle keeps people disconnected from their souls, creating a "spiritual vacuum" that serves as an entry point for hostile spirits.

Excessive media consumption, disembodiment, head-centric living, and dissociation weaken the soul connection, making individuals susceptible to external occult influences without their awareness.

As people withdraw from Divine aspiration and inspiration, their physical bodies become exposed to control by non-human occult hostile forces.

Rudolf Steiner warned that future generations would have weakened or absent souls because of this “spiritual vacuum”, making their bodies vulnerable to occupation by demonic entities.

He also emphasized the importance of learning how to deal with evil, which will inevitably lead to encountering one’s own inner shadow and evil within. It is the cure to eventually transmute and dissolve all evil.

----------------


"In ancient Greece, the body was still filled out by the entire human soul. Nowadays, that is no longer the case.

Bodies remain empty to a certain extent. But in reality, nothing in the world remains empty.

With the human soul withdrawing more and more from the body [due to over-identification with the physical body and lack of soul embodiment], the body is increasingly in danger of being filled with something else.

And if human beings are not prepared to take up impulses which can only come from spiritual knowledge [and practice], the body will be filled with demonic powers.

Humanity is facing a destiny where the body may be filled with ahrimanic demonic powers.

This shows the complexity of life to come. It is reasonable to say that there will be situations in the future when it will be difficult to know who one is dealing with."

- Rudolf Steiner (1917)

T Smith
7th March 2025, 15:05
3,151,726 views Mar 6, 2025 #CNN #News
Canadian Foreign Minister Mélanie Joly talks to CNN's Christiane Amanpour about Trump's ideas on trade, military cooperation, annexation and more.

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One of the Comments :

"I'm Canadian and I've been so scared and stressed out about the threat of annexation that I can't sleep. My mom has Alzheimer's Disease and I'm in the process of helping her transition to a nursing home while I pack up her home and this conflict is putting me over the edge. I can't believe that the country I used to love to visit, and whose anthem I would sing at sporting events out of respect, is now an existential threat to us. My husband keeps telling me, "If the US tried to annex us, the rest of the world would turn on them." Reading the comments of support from people in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and all over the world means so much to me in this moment. Thank you all!"


I don't think much of Melanie Joly or CNN, but can certainly relate to the comment you quoted above. Trump's threat of annexation has caused tremendous stress and hysteria. What I really see happening on Canadian social media is a bizarre worship of Trump, praising him for pushing down Turdeau, and insisting that becoming the 51st state would be a good thing. I don't believe that the majority of Canadians feel that way. The majority want to be rid of the Turdeau regime, and we'd like to vote them out.

However, the Trump worshippers won't accept any critical comment about Trump, even when proven by facts. It's literally turned into a cult, and it reminds me of the covidian cult in some ways. It's about the use of social media to police others and to shape an outrageous narrative that's out of touch with reality in many ways.

Personally I see that this use of social media is an intentional set up by certain entities to sway large numbers of people towards a certain goal, and it is very frightening to see so many hypnotized people fall for it.

Here in the US many in the Trans community are so stressed with hysteria they honestly believe Trump is going to round them into camps, take away all their human rights, and ostracize them permanently from free society (if not euthanize them) because of their gender identity, simply because the new administration is removing the divisive practice of identity politics from the body politic. These are not hyperbolic assertions--these are valid fears some are truly experiencing.

Similarly, I don't discount any stress or hysteria some Canadians are feeling about the U.S. annexing Canada. But it falls into the same category as above. IT'S ABSURD.

THE U.S. IS NOT GOING TO ANNEX Canada. How would that even work? Or look like?

But, yes. If Trump were really rounding Trans into camps -- or attempting to annex Canada -- the person who pointed out "the rest of the world would turn on the US" is absolutely correct. It's absurd on its face.

Others have pointed this out a hundred times already, so I won't beat too much more on the drum. But what Trump is doing, in negotiations, is dealing with a globalist-run neighboring government hostile to its ally's NWO-breakaway nationalist agenda. Be assured the country of Canada will not be a causality of these negotiations--but perhaps some of their globalist policies will--if they wish to continue trade and mutually-beneficial relations with their nationalist friends in the south.

mountain_jim
7th March 2025, 15:47
copying here


https://x.com/_whitneywebb/status/1897781002799661500

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Whitney Webb
@_whitneywebb

I really appreciate the shout-outs and Ian’s kind words about my book, but there are some things I don’t think were portrayed necessarily accurately about my work, both regarding Epstein and otherwise, and I think I should take the time to clarify those things. I’m not looking to cast shade on anyone with this clarification, just that I think I am the most qualified person to represent my own work and when other people do it, not on my behalf but their own, it can sometimes lead to misconceptions.

My interest is ultimately in my work being accurately conveyed, particularly to large audiences. Obviously the best way to understand my book is to read it, but many who watch the Rogan podcast, for example, won’t. I would happily make these clarifications on Rogan’s platform or another platform of similar size if I ever got invited.

One thing I’d like to clarify is that my books do not make the claim that “Epstein was Mossad,” the book instead argues that Epstein was an important part of a network – though arguably middle management – for a group composed of transgenerational organized crime interests (most of whom are the remnant of the Jewish mob component of the National Crime Syndicate and who promote ethno-fascist policies including via their ethnically focused philanthropy, among other activities) and major factions within both American and Israeli intelligence. They are not synonymous with either intelligence agency but arguably dominate the leadership of those intelligence agencies.

Evidence for Epstein’s ties to Israeli intelligence links him with Israeli military intelligence as opposed to Mossad, which are different parts of the Israeli intelligence apparatus (For example, it would be like confusing the DIA with the CIA). However, as noted above, Epstein was ultimately working for a network that greatly influences and exerts significant control over both the US and Israel (among other places) and that network is more loyal to itself than any one nation and also involves multiple intelligence agencies. While many people do casually use Mossad as a catch-all term for Israeli intelligence, I don’t agree with that and not making the accurate distinction creates an opening for dishonest actors to discredit the work that I and others have done on this topic when not framed properly.

Another thing I’d like to clarify is the implication that my historical reporting on the Epstein case is commendable, while my more current reporting on technocracy is significantly less so. My book on Epstein concludes with an entire chapter discussing how Epstein became irrelevant and thus expendable because the union of Big Tech with the intelligence apparatus, particularly those intelligence agencies most corrupted by the “Epstein network”, with a major focus on the national security contractor Palantir and its co-founder Peter Thiel.

While Ian is an admitted fan of my book, the reporting on technocracy that he describes as more of a turn-off for most than my Epstein book is actually in the book on Epstein itself and is arguably the main conclusion as it related to the present, from the book. There, I note that Palantir is the privatization and recreation of a nefarious neocon project developed by top figures from the Iran-Contra scandal and how tools like it, and its Unit 8200-developed equivalents from Israel, have amassed so much information on us and can also plant false or incriminating evidence on one’s devices without their knowledge, have made the type of sex blackmail ops once practiced by Epstein and other figures mentioned in the book no longer needed or relevant.

I am not sure if Ian has discussed Thiel or Palantir very much (I don’t believe he has but may be wrong on that), but a lot of my concerns about technocracy and the current administration are intimately related to both and those concerns are very well documented in One Nation Under Blackmail (which was published even before the official confirmation of Thiel-Epstein meetings). Of course, Peter Thiel’s errand boy now being Vice President of the US and the many Thiel or Palantir-adjacent figures in this administration make this not politically expedient to point out, particularly if the views you publicly propagate involve claiming that the current administration is a major departure from the Epstein network, which I argue – in my book as well as today – that it is likely not.

In that same vein, I think it is important to push back as nicely as possible on Ian’s suggestion that the Erik Prince “unplugged” phone seems to be a good investment for those concerned about illegal surveillance. While Ian has since described that as an “off-handed” comment and that he hasn't researched the phone, I think both he and everyone should know the following.

Prince has a close relationship with and hired the Unit 8200 alumnus and co-founder of the Epstein and Thiel-funded (and Ehud Barak-chaired) Carbyne911, which seeks to harvest as much data off of your phone as possible when you call 911 and feed the same pre-crime paradigm with that data that Palantir is also seeking to develop (Carbyne is discussed in my book as well). With this woman (her name is Lital Leshem), Prince has developed a very suspect company to funnel technology and products developed by foreign military/intelligence (in this case, Israel) to the US military, creating a loophole for acquisition of what would normally be forbidden products for the US military. In addition, the “unplugged” phone itself was also developed by Unit 8200 almuni. This is significant as Israel has an admitted policy of using companies created by “former” Unit 8200 operatives as fronts for activities Unit 8200 and Mossad once conducted “in house”. For anyone concerned about sex blackmail, Israeli intelligence espionage and/or pre-crime, stay as far away from this phone as possible. Sources for some of the points made above are contained in reporting that I published after my book came out, so I will post those links below.

To conclude, I am more than happy to and very capable of representing my own work to any audience, and when other people try to represent my work instead of me, even if well-intentioned, it can lead to misconceptions about me, my work and my conclusions and I think it is well within reason for me to do my best to ensure that my work is portrayed as accurately as possible.



https://x.com/_whitneywebb/status/1897784104218984698

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Whitney Webb
@_whitneywebb
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link for the erik prince, lital leshem, unplugged claims made above:


Whitney Webb
@_whitneywebb
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link to read my books online for free:
https://archive.org/details/one-nation-under-blackmail-vol-1-2-whitney-alyse-webb_202401

updated

https://x.com/IanCarrollShow/status/1897870452887831029

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@_whitneywebb responded to me promoting her books on Rogan

And as usual- she dropped knowledge and details and facts. I aspire to be half as informed as Whitney before I die.

SilentFeathers
7th March 2025, 22:11
This should be interesting as to how it will play out. All Kristi Noem can do about this is to do a referral for prosecution to the Justice Department for these two leakers.

If Pam Bondi doesn't prosecute these two leakers it'll make a liar out of Kristi Noem as she already said leakers will be made an example of in her department.

This will be a good test to see if Bondi will play hardball and do the right thing. So far Bondi appears to be weak and not up to the task of being AG in my opinion. Yes, it's early in her job right now but she has already dropped the ball and looked like a fool with the Epstein files and I'm having second thoughts about her being the AG. I hope she proves me wrong but I'm guessing she may be the first to be replaced in the Trump Cabinet.

As for Kristi Noem, she's just getting warmed up. I really believe she is going to be a force to be reckoned with and feared by many, especially by many cartel members.

BREAKING NEWS: DHS Secretary Kristi Noem Says Two Leakers Have Been Identified, Will Be Prosecuted
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BMJ
8th March 2025, 00:30
BINGO
It's not rocket science simply put audits, accountability & tariffs the trifecta that will MAGA. Also, having President Trump running the country like a business instead of, as under previous administrations, a sheltered workshop for the incompetent, lazy and free loaders.

Transfer that formula to Australia, New Zealand, UK & Europe. Then suddenly they all have their M_GA moment and prosperity from there on in.

The knock on effect is that China begins to lose it industrial base.

Suddenly China will not be able to indulge in thoughts of taking Taiwan or flexing it muscle in the pacific. It will be to busy worrying about domestic matters such as feeding the population and avoiding civil war as the economy collapse.

Their massive naval fleet will be siting dock side rotting away, reminscent of the Soviet navy mid 1990's.

Sorry I have no pity for China they were happily willing to destroy western culture, murder millions via the COVID virus and take our countries by any every covert means from us.

( Maybe we should list Chinese companies operating within our respective borders as terrorists organisations and expel or charge employees for the economic, culture or otherwise act of terrorism and seize the assets of these terrorist organisations. )

China at that point in time maybe you can build a land bridge to Australia, Taiwan or Philippines using your excess to requirements naval fleet and conduct an invasion that way. You still gotta chance to rule the world China !!! Not !!!



Holy SH*T! Trump's Tariffs are Working Even Better Than Expected | Redacted w Clayton Morris

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Redacted
Mar 8, 2025
Under the threat of Trump's tariffs... First it was Apple set to build multiple new factories, hiring 20,000 Americans, spending 500 billion in investing in the united states then the list started growing.

ThePythonicCow
8th March 2025, 03:43
Trump needs to seriously backtrack on this.
No "public action" is necessarily sacrosanct, nor necessarily wrong; not protests, nor "foreign aid to less wealth nations", nor immigration, nor using your gun to blow someone's brains out.

Illegal protests done with the intent of creating chaos and overthrowing legitimate governments (e.g. 'Maidan Uprising', Kyiv, the Ukraine, in January and February 2014), or apparent foreign aid used to launder billions of dollars into criminal hands (e.g. USAID), or billions of dollars of fraudulent Social Security, Medicare and Disability payments ostensibly to long dead recipients ... these are not honorable. As an honest, still quite living, recipient of such Social Security payments, I wholeheartedly support cleaning up the Social Security (and voter) rolls.

Blowing out the brains of someone actively engaged in a mass shooting and killing of students in a school (*) may well be honorable, especially if no other more expedient, more immediate, more effective, less violent, remedy presents itself.

If one cannot distinguish which is which, and colors all such with a black brush, or with a white brush, one will be wrong half the time.

(and an argument of the form "If Trump, therefore bad" does not compel consent ... it only disrupts discussion)

===

(*) I write here of mass school shootings as typically reported in the main stream media, putting aside my substantial skepticism of the honesty of most such reports.

Rizotto
8th March 2025, 05:49
Trump needs to seriously backtrack on this.
No "public action" is necessarily sacrosanct, nor necessarily wrong; not protests, nor "foreign aid to less wealth nations", nor immigration, nor using your gun to blow someone's brains out.

Illegal protests done with the intent of creating chaos and overthrowing legitimate governments (e.g. 'Maidan Uprising', Kyiv, the Ukraine, in January and February 2014), or apparent foreign aid used to launder billions of dollars into criminal hands (e.g. USAID), or billions of dollars of fraudulent Social Security, Medicare and Disability payments ostensibly to long dead recipients ... these are not honorable. As an honest, still quite living, recipient of such Social Security payments, I wholeheartedly support cleaning up the Social Security (and voter) rolls.

Blowing out the brains of someone actively engaged in a mass shooting and killing of students in a school (*) may well be honorable, especially if no other more expedient, more immediate, more effective, less violent, remedy presents itself.

If one cannot distinguish which is which, and colors all such with a black brush, or with a white brush, one will be wrong half the time.

(and an argument of the form "If Trump, therefore bad" does not compel consent ... it only disrupts discussion)

===

(*) I write here of mass school shootings as typically reported in the main stream media, putting aside my substantial skepticism of the honesty of most such reports.

To Pythonic Cow: I just read your post twice (where you refer to my post #659) and still don't see how that's related to my post. My post had absolutely nothing to do with school shootings or any other act of violence, as you seem to infer. I don't support incitation to acts of violence.

So, I'll just summarize here what I meant in my post #659, which is that free speech is undermined by the new rule imposed by Trump with regards to banning pro-Palestinian protests, or threatening of imprisoning certain people as "agitators" if they make a pro-Palestinian speech.

This is a very important issue with deep ramifications. For example, in Canada, during the scamdemic, we've seen how censorship got us all down a very slippery slope, when we couldn't even question the covid mandates on social media, or when anti-mandate protests were deemed 'illegal' by the 'authorities. People were arrested and charged for doing things that were not violent nor fundamentally illegal.

ThePythonicCow
8th March 2025, 08:20
To Pythonic Cow: I just read your post twice (where you refer to my post #659) and still don't see how that's related to my post. My post had absolutely nothing to do with school shootings or any other act of violence, as you seem to infer. I don't support incitation to acts of violence.

The distinction between inciting violence and protests properly allowed as free speech is, as you observe in your post, second link below, an important and sometimes quite controversial, question, as any mention of "Jan 6" to someone active in American politics might evidence.

It seems that we (the two of us) have already continued this discussion elsewhere, to which I refer any readers interested in our considerations on these questions:


Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria -- Post #7874 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Palestine-Lebanon-Iran-Yemen-Syria-a-New-Middle-East-War&p=1659439&viewfull=1#post1659439)
Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria -- Post #7875 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Palestine-Lebanon-Iran-Yemen-Syria-a-New-Middle-East-War&p=1659449&viewfull=1#post1659449)
Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria -- Post #7878 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Palestine-Lebanon-Iran-Yemen-Syria-a-New-Middle-East-War&p=1659456&viewfull=1#post1659456)

Tintin
8th March 2025, 11:36
copying here


https://x.com/_whitneywebb/status/1897781002799661500

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Whitney Webb
@_whitneywebb

I really appreciate the shout-outs and Ian’s kind words about my book, but there are some things I don’t think were portrayed necessarily accurately about my work, both regarding Epstein and otherwise, and I think I should take the time to clarify those things. I’m not looking to cast shade on anyone with this clarification, just that I think I am the most qualified person to represent my own work and when other people do it, not on my behalf but their own, it can sometimes lead to misconceptions.

My interest is ultimately in my work being accurately conveyed, particularly to large audiences. Obviously the best way to understand my book is to read it, but many who watch the Rogan podcast, for example, won’t. I would happily make these clarifications on Rogan’s platform or another platform of similar size if I ever got invited.

One thing I’d like to clarify is that my books do not make the claim that “Epstein was Mossad,” the book instead argues that Epstein was an important part of a network – though arguably middle management – for a group composed of transgenerational organized crime interests (most of whom are the remnant of the Jewish mob component of the National Crime Syndicate and who promote ethno-fascist policies including via their ethnically focused philanthropy, among other activities) and major factions within both American and Israeli intelligence. They are not synonymous with either intelligence agency but arguably dominate the leadership of those intelligence agencies.

Evidence for Epstein’s ties to Israeli intelligence links him with Israeli military intelligence as opposed to Mossad, which are different parts of the Israeli intelligence apparatus (For example, it would be like confusing the DIA with the CIA). However, as noted above, Epstein was ultimately working for a network that greatly influences and exerts significant control over both the US and Israel (among other places) and that network is more loyal to itself than any one nation and also involves multiple intelligence agencies. While many people do casually use Mossad as a catch-all term for Israeli intelligence, I don’t agree with that and not making the accurate distinction creates an opening for dishonest actors to discredit the work that I and others have done on this topic when not framed properly.

Another thing I’d like to clarify is the implication that my historical reporting on the Epstein case is commendable, while my more current reporting on technocracy is significantly less so. My book on Epstein concludes with an entire chapter discussing how Epstein became irrelevant and thus expendable because the union of Big Tech with the intelligence apparatus, particularly those intelligence agencies most corrupted by the “Epstein network”, with a major focus on the national security contractor Palantir and its co-founder Peter Thiel.

While Ian is an admitted fan of my book, the reporting on technocracy that he describes as more of a turn-off for most than my Epstein book is actually in the book on Epstein itself and is arguably the main conclusion as it related to the present, from the book. There, I note that Palantir is the privatization and recreation of a nefarious neocon project developed by top figures from the Iran-Contra scandal and how tools like it, and its Unit 8200-developed equivalents from Israel, have amassed so much information on us and can also plant false or incriminating evidence on one’s devices without their knowledge, have made the type of sex blackmail ops once practiced by Epstein and other figures mentioned in the book no longer needed or relevant.

I am not sure if Ian has discussed Thiel or Palantir very much (I don’t believe he has but may be wrong on that), but a lot of my concerns about technocracy and the current administration are intimately related to both and those concerns are very well documented in One Nation Under Blackmail (which was published even before the official confirmation of Thiel-Epstein meetings). Of course, Peter Thiel’s errand boy now being Vice President of the US and the many Thiel or Palantir-adjacent figures in this administration make this not politically expedient to point out, particularly if the views you publicly propagate involve claiming that the current administration is a major departure from the Epstein network, which I argue – in my book as well as today – that it is likely not.

In that same vein, I think it is important to push back as nicely as possible on Ian’s suggestion that the Erik Prince “unplugged” phone seems to be a good investment for those concerned about illegal surveillance. While Ian has since described that as an “off-handed” comment and that he hasn't researched the phone, I think both he and everyone should know the following.

Prince has a close relationship with and hired the Unit 8200 alumnus and co-founder of the Epstein and Thiel-funded (and Ehud Barak-chaired) Carbyne911, which seeks to harvest as much data off of your phone as possible when you call 911 and feed the same pre-crime paradigm with that data that Palantir is also seeking to develop (Carbyne is discussed in my book as well). With this woman (her name is Lital Leshem), Prince has developed a very suspect company to funnel technology and products developed by foreign military/intelligence (in this case, Israel) to the US military, creating a loophole for acquisition of what would normally be forbidden products for the US military. In addition, the “unplugged” phone itself was also developed by Unit 8200 almuni. This is significant as Israel has an admitted policy of using companies created by “former” Unit 8200 operatives as fronts for activities Unit 8200 and Mossad once conducted “in house”. For anyone concerned about sex blackmail, Israeli intelligence espionage and/or pre-crime, stay as far away from this phone as possible. Sources for some of the points made above are contained in reporting that I published after my book came out, so I will post those links below.

To conclude, I am more than happy to and very capable of representing my own work to any audience, and when other people try to represent my work instead of me, even if well-intentioned, it can lead to misconceptions about me, my work and my conclusions and I think it is well within reason for me to do my best to ensure that my work is portrayed as accurately as possible.



https://x.com/_whitneywebb/status/1897784104218984698

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Whitney Webb
@_whitneywebb
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link for the erik prince, lital leshem, unplugged claims made above:


Whitney Webb
@_whitneywebb
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link to read my books online for free:
https://archive.org/details/one-nation-under-blackmail-vol-1-2-whitney-alyse-webb_202401

updated

https://x.com/IanCarrollShow/status/1897870452887831029

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Ian Carroll
@IanCarrollShow
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@_whitneywebb responded to me promoting her books on Rogan

And as usual- she dropped knowledge and details and facts. I aspire to be half as informed as Whitney before I die.

Good man Jim - well done :thumbsup:

"One Nation Under Blackmail" now downloaded and I'll get it into the library this weekend :sun:

SilentFeathers
8th March 2025, 14:06
This is a start in the right direction. Personally, I'd like to see all those involved in the assassination attempt of Trump in Butler, PA arrested.


Kash Patel’s FBI Arrests Three For Alleged Treason (https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/just-in-kash-patels-fbi-arrests-three-for-alleged-treason-mstef/?utm_source=Tkw&utm_medium=facebookcomment&fbclid=IwY2xjawI5LRpleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHW1Zp1qNbblfutWnljWDReEhw1lJpagj1H0Fc23LVR5XzCXTPD6VkB3Ltw_aem_ u15AraJamTBaGhGa9MgqKg)

The Federal Bureau of Investigation on Friday announced that three U.S. service members have been arrested and charged with treason, a significant win for new Director Kash Patel after less than two weeks on the job.

In a statement, the U.S. Department of Justice said that two active-duty U.S. Army soldiers and a veteran were in the process of attempting to sell national defense intelligence to Chinese agents when they were arrested.

“Jian Zhao, and Li Tian, active-duty U.S. Army soldiers stationed at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, along with Ruoyu Duan, a former U.S. Army soldier, were arrested today following indictments by federal grand juries in the District of Oregon and the Western District of Washington,” the DOJ said in a Thursday press release.

mountain_jim
8th March 2025, 15:31
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1898369343399899218

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Elon Musk

@elonmusk
An investigation has found 5 ActBlue-funded groups responsible for Tesla “protests”: Troublemakers, Disruption Project, Rise & Resist, Indivisible Project and Democratic Socialists of America.

ActBlue funders include George Soros, Reid Hoffman, Herbert Sandler, Patricia Bauman, and Leah Hunt-Hendrix.

ActBlue is currently under investigation for allowing foreign and illegal donations in criminal violation of campaign finance regulations. This week, 7 ActBlue senior officials resigned, including the associate general counsel.

If you know anything about this, please post in replies. Thanks, Elon.

mountain_jim
8th March 2025, 16:24
This article has many x posts and images concerning current events at Columbia University which resulted in the cancellation of government funding

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-admin-axes-400-million-grants-columbia-university-over-antisemitism-inaction



"Since October 7, Jewish students have faced relentless violence, intimidation, and anti-Semitic harassment on their campuses – only to be ignored by those who are supposed to protect them," stated Secretary of Education Linda McMahon.

BMJ
9th March 2025, 11:25
Trump’s Border Czar Marks Presidents’ Day With Statistic That Puts Biden Admin To Shame

Quote:
" President Donald Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, revealed a statistic on Presidents’ Day that indicates the United States is successfully cracking down on illegal crossings in a way not seen in decades.

“In the last 24 hours the US Border Patrol has encountered a total of 229 aliens across the entire southwest border. That is down from a high of over 11,000 a day under [President Joe] Biden,” Homan said in a post to X on Monday. “I started as a Border Patrol Agent in 1984 and I don’t remember the numbers ever being that low. President Trump promised a secure border and he is delivering.” "

Link: https://www.dailywire.com/news/trumps-border-czar-marks-presidents-day-with-statistic-that-puts-biden-admin-to-shame

As Posted On President Trump Truthsocial account: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114127520631511309

mountain_jim
9th March 2025, 14:00
https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1898586905035559053

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Emergent Perspective
@_emergent_
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UCLA Law Professor Peter Arenella (also a former ABC News "Law Analyst") just called for an armed coup by the U.S. Military, against the Trump Administration.

@FBIDirectorKash

"Tolerant Peaceful Liberalism"

(larger image)


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GlkWKumXwAAls__?format=jpg&name=large



https://x.com/catturd2/status/1898716413692428580

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Catturd ™
@catturd2
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The Left is becoming more unhinged by the day.
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DogeDesigner

@cb_doge
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🚨 BREAKING: U.S. Secret Service shot an armed man near the White House last night, as per Sky News.


https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1898715483437744219

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mountain_jim
10th March 2025, 18:48
https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1899117520889716989

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also Bernie




https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1898903558872829972

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Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck

I found the full video of the @BernieSanders rally performance of "Does your God have a big fat d*ck?" by transgender singer Laura Jane Grace and it’s somehow more evil than it sounds.

The song specifically attacks Christianity with mentions of Easter and God’s son.

Pure evil is what the Democrats stand for now. Make no mistake, this is a war of good vs. evil.

SilentFeathers
10th March 2025, 19:31
https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1899117520889716989

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also Bernie


https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1898903558872829972

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Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck

I found the full video of the @BernieSanders rally performance of "Does your God have a big fat d*ck?" by transgender singer Laura Jane Grace and it’s somehow more evil than it sounds.

The song specifically attacks Christianity with mentions of Easter and God’s son.

Pure evil is what the Democrats stand for now. Make no mistake, this is a war of good vs. evil.

Beyond disgusting and incredibly evil.

I looked everywhere trying to see if this is fake and BS to no avail, I'm having a hard time believing that this was actually allowed at Bernie's rally.

bojancan
10th March 2025, 19:52
In my opinion... this video also have a place here... Trump's administration! Added also in Palestine thread...

Columbia Palestine Protest Leader DISAPPEARED By Trump Admin

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mountain_jim
10th March 2025, 20:18
https://x.com/DNIGabbard/status/1899176257406857274

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DNI Tulsi Gabbard

@DNIGabbard
Per @POTUS directive, I have revoked security clearances and barred access to classified information for Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Lisa Monaco, Mark Zaid, Norman Eisen, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, and Andrew Weissman, along with the 51 signers of the Hunter Biden "disinformation" letter.

The President's Daily Brief is no longer being provided to former President Biden.

Rizotto
11th March 2025, 08:39
"The Trump administration is cracking down on protesters, deporting non-citizens for exercising free speech. Is this the beginning of a dangerous new precedent?"

Free Speech for Me, But Not for Thee: Trump Admin’s Protester Crackdown Sounds MAJOR Alarms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu5iiy22zHo

norman
11th March 2025, 09:42
Viva Frei (David Freiheit) spends some time with Alex Jones going through the hectic state of things in this ramped up fight back from the 'deep state'.

If you are having difficulty keeping up with it all, and now even not knowing there's more to keep up with that you haven't heard about yet, this conversation spans the battlefield of the moment. E.g. did you know the Ukraine peace dealing is hard on the pedal in Saudi Arabia this week. I had no idea until I listened to this conversation.

Audio
Alex Jones 2025-Mar-10 Monday - Viva Frei section (https://podbay.fm/p/the-alex-jones-show-infowarscom/e/1741644000?t=7655)

mountain_jim
11th March 2025, 15:17
I also recommend Viva (https://x.com/thevivafrei)for knowledgeable takes on the craptastic Canadian leadership changes, as I have several times in this thread in response to views of Avalon MAGA-movement supporters in the US as 'brainwashed' and 'stupid'.

(and yes I realize that the trade war of words and deeds between these 2 countries' leaders is really heating up today, escalating tensions all around)

https://x.com/thevivafrei/status/1899231780726599916

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Viva Frei

@thevivafrei
MUST WATCH: This is EVERYTHING you need to know about Canada's newest UNELECTED Prime Minster Mark Carney.

Why Carney is a bona-fide WEF, triple-passport-holder, Davos & Bilderberg frequenting globalist whore.

Why Jagmeet Singh is a scumbag.

Why the ENTIRE process is CORRUPT TO THE CORE.

This is Canada, folks.

Soviet Canada.



https://x.com/thevivafrei/status/1899468751180812481

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Viva Frei

@thevivafrei
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Just looking through the replies…

It seems the “elbows up” is the new face-mask emoji, syringe emoji, Ukrainian flag, BLM fist, virtue-signaling badge of honor of this iteration of mindless sheep.


Viva Frei

@thevivafrei
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25m
Liberals really did not think through this new “elbows up” political catchphrase.

Although I guess it is a more accurate representation of their government boot-licking than anything they’ve ever adopted before.

Elbows up, Liberals!

Gotta be governed harder!

TrumanCash
11th March 2025, 18:00
Trump Retaliates and Issues a Dire Warning to Canada After Ontario’s Premier Slaps 25% Electricity Surcharge on U.S. While Threatening to Cut Off Electricity to America Altogether

As The Gateway Pundit reported, Ford threatened last week to shut off electricity going into America, which would have horrific impacts on three states: New York, Michigan, and Minnesota. He also vowed to hit America with a 25% surcharge for the product.

“We keep the lights on for 1.5 million homes in manufacturing in New York, in Michigan, and in Minnesota,” Ford told NBC News. “If he wants to destroy our economy and our families, I will shut down the electricity going down to the U.S. And I’m telling you, we will do it.”

Ford kept his promise on tax on Monday while reiterating his threat to put potentially millions of Americans in the dark.

As expected, Trump punched back hard this morning on Truth Social. He announced that he would slap an additional 25% tariff on aluminum and steel from Canada beginning tomorrow morning, raising the total tariff to 50%. He then demanded Canada drop its outrageous dairy tariff on U.S. farmers.

“Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% Tariff on “Electricity” coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD,” an angry Trump wrote.

“This will go into effect TOMORROW MORNING, March 12th. Also, Canada must immediately drop their Anti-American Farmer Tariff of 250% to 390% on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous,” Trump added. “I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area.”

“This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada.”

Trump then issued a dire warning to Canada: If these long-time tariffs were not dropped, he would essentially shut down their auto industry and vowed to no longer protect them militarily. Canada as a country would be close to doomed if this happened.

“If other egregious, long time Tariffs are not likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase, on April 2nd, the Tariffs on Cars coming into the U.S. which will, essentially, permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada,” Trump warned. “Those cars can easily be made in the USA! Also, Canada pays very little for National Security, relying on the United States for military protection. We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than 200 Billion Dollars a year. WHY??? This cannot continue.”

Trump closed by once again calling for Canada to be admitted as America’s 51st state, saying that all tariffs would disappear and taxes would go down.

“The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State, Trump said. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear. Canadians’ taxes will be very substantially reduced, they will be more secure, militarily and otherwise, than ever before, there would no longer be a Northern Border problem, and the greatest and most powerful nation in the World will be bigger, better and stronger than ever — And Canada will be a big part of that.”

“The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful Nation anywhere in the World — And your brilliant anthem, “O Canada,” will continue to play, but now representing a GREAT and POWERFUL STATE within the greatest Nation that the World has ever seen!”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/trump-retaliates-issues-dire-warning-canada-after-ontarios/

mountain_jim
11th March 2025, 19:16
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/loonie-tumbles-trump-retaliates-against-ontarios-electricity-tariff

Stocks Jump As Ontario Folds, Suspends Electricity Surcharge After Talk With White House

by Tyler Durden
Tuesday, Mar 11, 2025 - 02:50 PM

Update (1445ET): After earlier responding to President Trump's threats with more sound and fury:

“I want to send more electricity” to the US, Ford said during an interview with CNBC, but cutting off power exports remains “a tool in our toolkit.”

Ontario Premier Doug Ford just folded like a broken deckchair and agreed to suspend its surcharge of 25% on exports of electricity to Michigan, New York and Minnesota, Ontario Premier Doug Ford says in a post on X.

Today, United States Secretary of Commerce and Premier of Ontario Doug Ford had a productive conversation about the economic relationship between the United States and Canada.

Secretary Lutnick agreed to officially meet with Premier Ford in Washington on Thursday, March 13 alongside the United States Trade Representative to discuss a renewed USMCA ahead of the April 2 reciprocal tariff deadline.

In response, Ontario agreed to suspend its 25 per cent surcharge on exports of electricity to Michigan, New York and Minnesota.

As a reminder, this was not earth-shattering as Minnesota and Michigan imported about 1% of its power from Canada in 2024, and less than half of that came from Ontario, according to the region’s grid operator, Midcontinent Independent System Operator. New York imported about 4.4% of its total electricity from the country in 2023, according to Bloomberg calculations.

The response in market was immediate with stocks ramping to the highs of the day...

< earlier news echoing post above at link >

TrumanCash
11th March 2025, 23:49
Biden Autopen Scandal Update: New Analysis on Biden’s Pardons For Family Members, Fauci, General Milley, J6 Committee and More

The Biden Autopen scandal is growing by the day.

The Oversight Project released new analysis of Biden’s pardons for family members, Dr. Tony Fauci, General Milley, J6 Committee members and Gerald Lundergan.

On January 19, 2025, just one day before Trump was set to be sworn in as the 47th US President, Joe Biden issued a flurry of pardons to his family members, Fauci and others.

The Oversight Project determined that all of the pardons issued on January 19 had the same exact Biden autopen signature.

Who was making the decisions?

Who was really running the country while Biden occupied the White House?

The Oversight Project has gathered every document they could find with Biden’s signature – ALL used the same autopen signature except for the announcement that he was dropping out of the 2024 election.

On Monday, the Oversight Project revealed six criminals were pardoned by Biden’s autopen on December 30, 2022 while Joe Biden was vacationing and golfing in St. Croix.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/biden-autopen-scandal-update-new-analysis-bidens-pardons/

THE OVERSIGHT PROJECT WEBSITE: https://www.heritage.org/oversight

The Oversight Project works for government that is responsible and accountable to its citizens. We use Freedom of Information Act requests and other means to make government more transparent to the public and to allow Congress to use its oversight authorities with maximum effectiveness. The requests and analysis of information are informed by Heritage’s deep policy expertise. By its nature, the Oversight Project primarily engages in disseminating information to the public.

bojancan
12th March 2025, 00:33
Saagar breaks down his appearance in the White House press briefing room where he asked questions about the economy and the attempted deportation of a Columbia student protestor.


BREAKING: Saagar REVEALS Backstory Behind Press Briefing RETURN
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mountain_jim
12th March 2025, 14:14
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1899534655088390631

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A fleet of Teslas is lined up outside the White House as President Trump prepares to make his pick.

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 11, 2025



https://x.com/catturd2/status/1899799861945360543

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Western Lensman
@WesternLensman

Democrats: OMG how dare Trump cheapen the White House by treating it like a car showroom!

Also Democrats:





https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1899583456050598202

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Elon Musk

@elonmusk
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In support of the policies of President @realDonaldTrump and to demonstrate our confidence in the future of the United States, @Tesla commits to doubling vehicle production in the US within 2 years!




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onawah
12th March 2025, 21:06
Karoline Levitt's STUNNING Announcement JUST MADE On White House Lawn!
The Next News Network
2.25M subscribers
3/12/24
Mar 12, 2025

"EXCLUSIVE: In a stunning revelation that's sending shockwaves through Washington, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt just announced that inflation has plummeted to its lowest level in four years—after just 52 days of President Trump's administration. This breaking footage, captured moments ago exclusively by Next News Network's White House correspondent Tom McCullagh, shows a confident Leavitt delivering economic news that has left mainstream media stunned and speechless.

"Despite all of the naysayers in the media and also all of the so-called experts," Leavitt declared in the impromptu press gaggle, "the CPI index report came out this morning and inflation is down, in fact, inflation is down to the lowest level it has been in four years." She emphasized this remarkable achievement has happened in "just 52 days of President Trump taking office," a direct rebuke to economic analysts who predicted economic disaster.

The economic renaissance doesn't stop there. Airline fares have fallen dramatically, gasoline costs are dropping nationwide, and major corporations are rushing to invest in America. GE Aerospace just announced a massive $1 billion investment, while Japanese beer giant Asahi is relocating manufacturing operations to Wisconsin—a direct response to President Trump's strategic 25% tariff on steel and aluminum that went into effect last night.

Our exclusive footage captures the exact moment when the establishment narrative about Trump's economic policies completely collapsed. After months of doom-and-gloom predictions, the reality is undeniable: Trump's America First approach is delivering immediate, measurable results for everyday Americans.

Perhaps most shocking is Leavitt's revelation that the administration has already slashed regulations saving American taxpayers a staggering $180 billion in just 52 days. "That comes out to about $2,000 per American household," she explained, demonstrating how these policies are directly benefiting families across the nation. This dramatic reduction in regulatory burden has freed businesses to expand operations and increase hiring.

On international affairs, Leavitt delivered major breaking news regarding the Ukraine conflict. Ukraine has agreed to a ceasefire and peace plan that was presented yesterday in Saudi Arabia by the Secretary of State and National Security Advisor. "We are at the 10th yard line," Leavitt stated confidently, adding that the President's team continues to be engaged with Russian counterparts to finalize the agreement.

The Press Secretary revealed that National Security Advisor has already spoken with his Russian counterpart today, and Mr. Whitkoff is preparing to travel to Moscow later this week to advance negotiations. When pressed about whether President Trump would personally call President Putin, Leavitt remained diplomatic but didn't rule out the possibility.

On education policy, Leavitt confirmed the administration's commitment to returning control to the states. "There is no reason that we should be spending more than most developed countries in the world and failing," she stated bluntly, pointing to dismal student performance metrics where "eighth graders are not reading at the rate that they should" and "fourth graders are not learning math at the rate that they should."

The Secretary of Education Lyndon McMahon was specifically praised as "doing a tremendous job" implementing the President's vision to "return education back to the states, empower those closest to the people to make these very important decisions for our children's lives."

The press gaggle also addressed the continuing resolution that passed in the House, with Leavitt confirming the President's strong support for the measure. "Now the ball is in Senate Democrats' court," she explained. "Do they want to shut down the government or do they want to keep it open and funded for the American people?"

When questioned about market reactions, Leavitt was unfazed. "It's a moment in time—there will be good and bad days, but ultimately, both Wall Street and Main Street will benefit, just as they did in the first term."

On NATO, she confirmed upcoming talks with the Secretary General, stressing Trump’s stance: "NATO nations must pay their fair share." She reaffirmed his support—contingent on alliance members meeting financial obligations.

This footage offers a rare glimpse into the administration's confidence and strategy across key policy areas. From economic growth to international diplomacy, from education reform to government efficiency, the administration is swiftly enacting the agenda voters endorsed in November.

The impact is clear in economic data, corporate investments, and diplomatic breakthroughs—facts the mainstream media distorts or ignores. As White House correspondent Tom McCullagh signed off, the contrast was undeniable: while some networks push speculation, Next News Network delivers direct, unfiltered news."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PzkjijMO10

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Authorities JUST Swooped In OVERNIGHT Without Warning! INSANE Numbers!
The Next News Network
2.25M subscribers
Mar 12, 2025

"In a massive enforcement operation that's sending shockwaves through border communities, ICE has just arrested 646 criminal illegal aliens in the Houston area alone. Gary Franchi delivers this explosive segment from Next News Network's RAW FEED, exposing the remarkable results of President Trump's zero-tolerance border security policy just 51 days into his administration.

The White House Press Secretary made it clear: "This administration will not tolerate individuals studying in our country and then siding with pro-terrorist organizations that have killed Americans." This firm stance marks a sharp departure from the previous administration’s approach to illegal immigration and terrorism.

The Houston ICE operation exposed shocking numbers the media won’t report. Of the 646 aliens detained, 543 had serious criminal charges or convictions, including 140 aggravated felons, 34 sex offenders, and 52 with drug-related charges. As Libs of TikTok noted, "This is the most arrests we've seen from a single operation under this administration."

FBI Director Kash Patel also confirmed multiple drug trafficker arrests in Florida, sharing images from raids where SWAT teams and local law enforcement took down a major trafficking ring. This coordination signals a new era of strict border and internal security enforcement.

A key development is the administration’s self-deportation initiative. The Customs and Border Protection agency launched an enhanced "HOME" mobile app with an "Intent to Depart" feature, allowing illegal aliens to notify the U.S. government of their intent to leave before facing harsher consequences.

The results are striking. According to a Bloomberg report, "the number of aliens trying to reach our country through the jungle to Central America dropped 99% last month." Illegal border crossings also plummeted—down 94% at our southern border from last February under Biden.

The administration is also cracking down on those supporting terrorism. A Columbia University graduate, Mahmoud Khalil, was detained and had his green card revoked after organizing campus protests that harassed Jewish students and distributed pro-Hamas flyers. The Press Secretary said she had these flyers on her desk but refused to bring them to the briefing.

Additionally, Secretary Kristi Noem announced that bureaucrats who leaked information about ICE raids to illegal aliens have been identified and referred for prosecution. These individuals endangered lives because they opposed Trump’s policies, preferring the status quo of no accountability.

The establishment is panicking. BlackRock CEO Larry Fink warned on CNBC that Trump’s deportation policies could harm the agricultural and construction sectors. However, his concerns fall flat, given the administration’s focus on criminal aliens, not legal immigrants or visa holders.

Next News Network brings you these critical stories while mainstream outlets ignore or downplay the dramatic improvements in American security. Your support is essential to continue this vital reporting. Please consider donating at https://www.givesendgo.com/Keep-Next-... or via PayPal at https://www.paypal.com/donate?campaig... to help us bring these crucial stories to millions of Americans who deserve to know what's really happening at our border.

For exclusive access to the Next News team and special acknowledgment in our comments section, become a channel member today at / @nextnewsnetwork . Your membership supports our continued efforts to expose the truth when other networks refuse.

The contrast is clear. For years, Democrats ignored the border crisis while communities suffered. Now, President Trump is taking action to protect citizens and restore order. Criminal aliens are being arrested, and terrorist sympathizers deported. Our immigration system is finally working for Americans.

But why did Democrats resist these security measures? Were they more focused on future voters than protecting lives? While the administration secures our borders, Americans must confront this reality.

With zero-tolerance policies in place, illegal crossings are down, fewer criminal aliens roam our streets, and the U.S. is enforcing its immigration laws. Catch-and-release is over, replaced by a system prioritizing safety and sovereignty."
NlriwTppxFM

jaybee
13th March 2025, 08:20
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I have been thinking this ever since Trump got the invitation to a 2nd State Visit........ I DON'T WANT TRUMP TO COME TO THE UK....

Like Andrew Bridgen I don't think he will be safe... although he would have his own security team around him - any security involving M16 etc cannot be trusted.... King Charles 111 is more or less at the heart of the Globalist plot - said to be the originator of the Great Reset, that was then taken up by Schwab and the WEF..... why would he be so keen to have Trump over on a State Visit...? said to be an unprecedented 2nd State Visit for a US President - I think Trump is being lured here.... the State Visit thing is probably to appeal to Trump's ego - but we can be sure that Starmer and the British Government - and behind the scenes character like Blair and Mandelson et al...... and King Charles...... all hate him because he is threatening all the work they have done over the years to create the One World Government Dictatorship....

Charles is even seriously proposed as the long awaited Antichrist... I kid you not... it's a 'thing' - there is a guy called Tim Cohen who researched and wrote a book - The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49439.The_Antichrist_and_a_Cup_of_Tea)


THE ANTICHRIST AND A CUP OF TEA presents the fascinating saga of the British Monarchy's centuries-long endeavor to establish a "New World Order," and for the first time, gives hard evidence to suggest the identity of the AntiChrist.

and has a Youtube Channel - Author Tim Cohen (https://www.youtube.com/@AuthorTimCohen) with very interesting videos on the subject....

Imagine how 'they' would love to kill Trump on British soil....away from the US.... for the Evil Ones it would be a badge of honour to pull something like that off... it's as if Trump's tenure as President is part of the American War of Independence and it's like the British Establishment/Monarchy (with the International Globalist Elite) was poised to take the USA back - after 250 years....they were almost there..... but at the eleventh hour along comes Trump .....

What's the point of coming here..? There's nothing to be gained ... the propaganda machine will sow hatred - TDS will go through the roof....

I totally agree with Andrew Bridgen -

Andrew Bridgen - Dire Warning To President Trump (1:42)

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12 Mar 2025
Trusted UK politician Andrew Bridgen issues dire warning for President Trump.

"I would advise... it's really not safe for President Trump to come to the UK at the moment."

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edit to add..... one of the comments under video....


My understanding is that … the kings letter should have been given privately not in front of everyone.

now this is a good point and a tell tale sign that something is afoot... the gleeful and dramatic way Starmer produced the letter and gushed about how historic it all was...

If Trump accepts the invitation his life is in serious danger - if he declines he will be accused of snubbing and insulting the King and Country -

a couple more comments...


"How slimy and patronising Starmer was when he got the letter out and then made that pathetic speech about it being unprecedented. But then again Trump's not stupid and can see right through him."

"I agree. Starmer draws that letter out like the fabled witch presenting the apple to Snow White."

TrumanCash
13th March 2025, 17:07
Breaking: Makary, Bhattacharya Nominations Move to Full Senate Vote, But Trump Pulls Weldon Nomination to Lead CDC -- Children's Health Defense

Dr. David Weldon’s hearing was to take place today before the U.S. Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. However, a White House official last night told Weldon “they didn’t have the votes to confirm” his nomination, according to The New York Times.

The U.S. Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions this morning canceled a scheduled hearing on the nomination of Dr. David Weldon, President Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Axios was the first to break the news, stating that Weldon’s “views questioning certain vaccines have garnered attention since he was nominated months ago and were sure to play a prominent role in questioning.”

The New York Times reached Weldon by phone. The former Florida congressman said he learned of the decision last night when a White House official told him that “they didn’t have the votes to confirm” his nomination.

In a statement posted on X, Weldon said, “The concern of many people is that Big Pharma was behind this, which is probably true. They are probably the most powerful lobbying organization in Washington DC giving millions of dollars to politicians on both sides of the aisle.”

Read complete article at https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/breaking-trump-pulls-weldon-cdc-nomination-makary-bhattacharya-senate-vote/?utm_source=luminate&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=defender&utm_id=20250313a

norman
13th March 2025, 18:12
Even if Trump's security on a visit to Charles wasn't an issue, he definitely shouldn't do any such stupid thing.

I'll be surprised and shocked if he does, and painfully disappointed.

If Trump is serious, he should never take up an invite from Charles. Let Charles come to him, and sit on those chairs in front of the fire like Zelensky did, and if Charles starts any lippy bullsht, kick him out too.

bojancan
13th March 2025, 18:57
The US and the UK specially… have allowed Israel basically to burn down the Geneva Conventions... with that international humanitarian law as we always knew it...
Seams to me that the response to that can not just be... it is okay... everyone gets to do that now... how I see it...

Trump's US now!

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“These disciplinary cases are designed to distract us from what the real issue is which is a genocide and a growing form of authoritarianism in Washington.”

Donald Trump cut $400 million of federal funding from Columbia University, citing antisemitism on campus, despite the school’s notorious crackdown on pro-Palestine protesters, and, recently, the pushing out of their very own professor.

In an EXCLUSIVE Zeteo Town Hall, Ex-Columbia Law Professor Katherine Franke joined Zeteo Political Correspondent Prem Thakker to discuss how she was pushed out by the university after standing up for pro-Palestine students.

This was a LIVE Q&A EXCLUSIVE to Zeteo paid subscribers. If you’d like to participate in the next one, and *get early access to important content, SUBSCRIBE to Zeteo.com here*: https://zeteo.com/subscribe

Watch the full video to hear Professor Franke speak out on how she was pushed into an early retirement, how Columbia’s approach to free speech has transformed, the double standards around pro-Israel speech, and Trump’s attempts to crackdown on college protests.

NOTE: This was recorded on Friday, March 7, before the arrest of Columbia graduate Mahmoud Khalil. You can read more about that story here: https://zeteo.com/p/marco-rubio-perso...


Columbia PUSHED OUT This Professor for Being Pro-Palestine

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Meanwhile... the other Trump's family is going around to searching around the world to make agreement of business deal... making Trump Tower in Belgrade...
Selves - serving family .. indeed!

DONALD TRUMP'S son visits Serbia, meets President Vucic, sparks DIPLOMATIC BUZZ
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Flash
13th March 2025, 20:15
Karoline Levitt's STUNNING Announcement JUST MADE On White House Lawn!
The Next News Network
2.25M subscribers
3/12/24
Mar 12, 2025

"EXCLUSIVE: In a stunning revelation that's sending shockwaves through Washington, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt just announced that inflation has plummeted to its lowest level in four years—after just 52 days of President Trump's administration. This breaking footage, captured moments ago exclusively by Next News Network's White House correspondent Tom McCullagh, shows a confident Leavitt delivering economic news that has left mainstream media stunned and speechless.

"Despite all of the naysayers in the media and also all of the so-called experts," Leavitt declared in the impromptu press gaggle, "the CPI index report came out this morning and inflation is down, in fact, inflation is down to the lowest level it has been in four years." She emphasized this remarkable achievement has happened in "just 52 days of President Trump taking office," a direct rebuke to economic analysts who predicted economic disaster.

The economic renaissance doesn't stop there. Airline fares have fallen dramatically, gasoline costs are dropping nationwide, and major corporations are rushing to invest in America. GE Aerospace just announced a massive $1 billion investment, while Japanese beer giant Asahi is relocating manufacturing operations to Wisconsin—a direct response to President Trump's strategic 25% tariff on steel and aluminum that went into effect last night.

Our exclusive footage captures the exact moment when the establishment narrative about Trump's economic policies completely collapsed. After months of doom-and-gloom predictions, the reality is undeniable: Trump's America First approach is delivering immediate, measurable results for everyday Americans.

Perhaps most shocking is Leavitt's revelation that the administration has already slashed regulations saving American taxpayers a staggering $180 billion in just 52 days. "That comes out to about $2,000 per American household," she explained, demonstrating how these policies are directly benefiting families across the nation. This dramatic reduction in regulatory burden has freed businesses to expand operations and increase hiring.

On international affairs, Leavitt delivered major breaking news regarding the Ukraine conflict. Ukraine has agreed to a ceasefire and peace plan that was presented yesterday in Saudi Arabia by the Secretary of State and National Security Advisor. "We are at the 10th yard line," Leavitt stated confidently, adding that the President's team continues to be engaged with Russian counterparts to finalize the agreement.

The Press Secretary revealed that National Security Advisor has already spoken with his Russian counterpart today, and Mr. Whitkoff is preparing to travel to Moscow later this week to advance negotiations. When pressed about whether President Trump would personally call President Putin, Leavitt remained diplomatic but didn't rule out the possibility.

On education policy, Leavitt confirmed the administration's commitment to returning control to the states. "There is no reason that we should be spending more than most developed countries in the world and failing," she stated bluntly, pointing to dismal student performance metrics where "eighth graders are not reading at the rate that they should" and "fourth graders are not learning math at the rate that they should."

The Secretary of Education Lyndon McMahon was specifically praised as "doing a tremendous job" implementing the President's vision to "return education back to the states, empower those closest to the people to make these very important decisions for our children's lives."

The press gaggle also addressed the continuing resolution that passed in the House, with Leavitt confirming the President's strong support for the measure. "Now the ball is in Senate Democrats' court," she explained. "Do they want to shut down the government or do they want to keep it open and funded for the American people?"

When questioned about market reactions, Leavitt was unfazed. "It's a moment in time—there will be good and bad days, but ultimately, both Wall Street and Main Street will benefit, just as they did in the first term."

On NATO, she confirmed upcoming talks with the Secretary General, stressing Trump’s stance: "NATO nations must pay their fair share." She reaffirmed his support—contingent on alliance members meeting financial obligations.

This footage offers a rare glimpse into the administration's confidence and strategy across key policy areas. From economic growth to international diplomacy, from education reform to government efficiency, the administration is swiftly enacting the agenda voters endorsed in November.

The impact is clear in economic data, corporate investments, and diplomatic breakthroughs—facts the mainstream media distorts or ignores. As White House correspondent Tom McCullagh signed off, the contrast was undeniable: while some networks push speculation, Next News Network delivers direct, unfiltered news."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PzkjijMO10

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Authorities JUST Swooped In OVERNIGHT Without Warning! INSANE Numbers!
The Next News Network
2.25M subscribers
Mar 12, 2025

"In a massive enforcement operation that's sending shockwaves through border communities, ICE has just arrested 646 criminal illegal aliens in the Houston area alone. Gary Franchi delivers this explosive segment from Next News Network's RAW FEED, exposing the remarkable results of President Trump's zero-tolerance border security policy just 51 days into his administration.

The White House Press Secretary made it clear: "This administration will not tolerate individuals studying in our country and then siding with pro-terrorist organizations that have killed Americans." This firm stance marks a sharp departure from the previous administration’s approach to illegal immigration and terrorism.

The Houston ICE operation exposed shocking numbers the media won’t report. Of the 646 aliens detained, 543 had serious criminal charges or convictions, including 140 aggravated felons, 34 sex offenders, and 52 with drug-related charges. As Libs of TikTok noted, "This is the most arrests we've seen from a single operation under this administration."

FBI Director Kash Patel also confirmed multiple drug trafficker arrests in Florida, sharing images from raids where SWAT teams and local law enforcement took down a major trafficking ring. This coordination signals a new era of strict border and internal security enforcement.

A key development is the administration’s self-deportation initiative. The Customs and Border Protection agency launched an enhanced "HOME" mobile app with an "Intent to Depart" feature, allowing illegal aliens to notify the U.S. government of their intent to leave before facing harsher consequences.

The results are striking. According to a Bloomberg report, "the number of aliens trying to reach our country through the jungle to Central America dropped 99% last month." Illegal border crossings also plummeted—down 94% at our southern border from last February under Biden.

The administration is also cracking down on those supporting terrorism. A Columbia University graduate, Mahmoud Khalil, was detained and had his green card revoked after organizing campus protests that harassed Jewish students and distributed pro-Hamas flyers. The Press Secretary said she had these flyers on her desk but refused to bring them to the briefing.

Additionally, Secretary Kristi Noem announced that bureaucrats who leaked information about ICE raids to illegal aliens have been identified and referred for prosecution. These individuals endangered lives because they opposed Trump’s policies, preferring the status quo of no accountability.

The establishment is panicking. BlackRock CEO Larry Fink warned on CNBC that Trump’s deportation policies could harm the agricultural and construction sectors. However, his concerns fall flat, given the administration’s focus on criminal aliens, not legal immigrants or visa holders.

Next News Network brings you these critical stories while mainstream outlets ignore or downplay the dramatic improvements in American security. Your support is essential to continue this vital reporting. Please consider donating at https://www.givesendgo.com/Keep-Next-... or via PayPal at https://www.paypal.com/donate?campaig... to help us bring these crucial stories to millions of Americans who deserve to know what's really happening at our border.

For exclusive access to the Next News team and special acknowledgment in our comments section, become a channel member today at / @nextnewsnetwork . Your membership supports our continued efforts to expose the truth when other networks refuse.

The contrast is clear. For years, Democrats ignored the border crisis while communities suffered. Now, President Trump is taking action to protect citizens and restore order. Criminal aliens are being arrested, and terrorist sympathizers deported. Our immigration system is finally working for Americans.

But why did Democrats resist these security measures? Were they more focused on future voters than protecting lives? While the administration secures our borders, Americans must confront this reality.

With zero-tolerance policies in place, illegal crossings are down, fewer criminal aliens roam our streets, and the U.S. is enforcing its immigration laws. Catch-and-release is over, replaced by a system prioritizing safety and sovereignty."
NlriwTppxFM

I have seen and read and heard soooooo much lies about Canada in these last 2 months, coming from your present administration in US, that I cannot rely anylonger on any report such as those above Onawah.

The lies and manipulations are sooooo widespread in your country, like in Russia or any other dictature, that nothing coming from government channels can be trusted.

I would strongly suggest that you read newspapers or listen to podcasts from other countries regarding what is happening is USA (not opinions but facts reports), you will be astounded, surprised.

What I do is read the english versions of Turkish newspapers for example, they view everything from a different angle, or read French newspapers in their English versions or plain Canadian newspapers and listen to plain Canadian podcasts. Although also sometimes biaised, enumeration of facts is usually quite fair (our press still have some counter checks)

I am soooo sorry this forum has tuned into a blind alley where mobs (your politicians) are free to act as mobs, with approval of members and no, none whatsoever, equilibrated analysis of what is.

bojancan
13th March 2025, 21:28
Yes, I agree with David ...
If Trump is not in content with money spending in NATO... please step out...
Millions of people in EU are in agreements.. that in EU are too many US bases around... please Trump... take them out!
It's annoying to listen and seeing this man... as a president... he is only self-serving in this position...
Following the other reporters around the world... family Trump is now running around the world to acquire business for themselves.. isn't this at list controversial???? If not illegitimate????


Trump FALLS APART on camera, "everybody is transgender"
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Rizotto
13th March 2025, 21:42
As a Canadian I feel sick to my stomach from Trump's constant threats of annexation and false accusations against Canada (and several other countries) over the past 3 months.

BE AWARE! It's all a PSYOP, their main motivator is the $37 trillions debt incurred by the USA feeding the bottomless pit of their military industrial complex, and the Israel lobby for endless wars of expansion in the middle east. Of course Trump & Co. are panicked by this unsolvable debt, and are now trying to rake in anything they can from abroad. Literally looting their allies. Canada, Greenland have rich resources that they badly want.

Even Trump family members are in on this psyop:
_________________________________________________________________________________

https://newrepublic.com/post/190070/donald-trump-jr-greenland-staged-homeless


January 9, 2025

Donald Trump Jr.’s Ridiculous Greenland Trip Just Took a Dark Turn
It appears the whole thing was staged.

A MAGA visit intended to make Greenland look pro–Donald Trump appears staged from the bottom up.

The so-called tourism trip saw Donald Trump Jr., far-right political pundit Charlie Kirk, and Trump administration staffer Sergio Gor visit the self-governing Danish territory at a time when the president-elect has made some odd jokes and eyebrow-raising militaristic threats about buying Greenland.

The trio’s presence on the island—and myriad photo ops with local residents—was not taken well by some of Greenland’s politicians, who slammed Don Jr.’s visit as a stunt to make the territory appear open to U.S. governance. Pipaluk Lynge, the chair of Greenland’s parliamentary foreign and security policy committee, told Politico that the territory wants its “own independence and democracy.” Lynge also warned the United States not to “invade” the nation, which is largely composed of Indigenous tribes, in light of its historical treatment of Alaska’s Indigenous population.

“Greenland is not for sale and will never be for sale,” Aaja Chemnitz, another member of Greenland’s Parliament, told NBC News.

But some of the behind-the-scenes details of the pro-Trump expedition are even worse.

Danish media reported Thursday that a series of photos featuring Kirk and Greenlandic residents in MAGA hats was staged. The MAGA cohort reportedly rounded up homeless people from the area—including one person from under a bridge—promising them a meal at the Hotel Hans Egede in exchange for their participation in the pro-Trump photo circuit.

Videos of the trip that circulated on X describe the Greenlandic participants as “the local community in Nuuk,” but several local sources that spoke with DR News described the photographed individuals as “homeless and socially disadvantaged” people who are often outside the supermarket directly across from the hotel where the Trump event was held.

“All they have to do is put on a cap and be in the Trump staff’s videos. They are being bribed, and it is deeply distasteful,” Tom Amtoft, a 28-year resident of Nuuk, told the Danish news outlet.

Amtoft reportedly witnessed the group’s attempts to get locals to wear the MAGA caps for the photos, describing the process as “very aggressive.” He said the Trump envoys chose a “selective” group of people “who could say that Greenland should be bought.”

Links to other articles on this event:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/16/homeless-people-given-free-lunch-to-attend-donald-trump-jr-event-in-greenland
https://www.arctictoday.com/donald-trump-jr-accused-of-paying-greenlands-homeless-to-appear-as-supporters/

Rizotto
13th March 2025, 22:02
Sorry if that was already posted above (can't keep up with all that's going on...) At any rate it's worth watching this important interview again.

Macgregor: 'if you want war to stop, then stop providing military aid'.

BREAKING: Tucker and Doug Macgregor React to Proposed Ceasefire Deal Between Ukraine and Russia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvbd6HAziaE

onawah
13th March 2025, 22:17
I am aware that there is a huge amount of disinformation out there, but it's coming from a lot of different quarters, not just the US press.
I don't generally post things like that, and I definitely wasn't sure about the info in the 2 stories I posted ( I'm not a fan of that particular news source) but I was hoping to hear back from other members if there were reports to the contrary that seemed reliable.

In any case, the content was more having to do with internal US issues than about anything to do with Canada.
I am not a Trump fan (or a fan of any politicans for the most part since the whole political game has become so corrupt everywhere, not just in the US) but I imagne that in many ways he is doing better than Kamala Harris would be doing at least, and I am trying to salvage any hope I still have that the US will benefit from some of his policies, the border issue and cutting wasteful spending being foremost, which is what those news stories are about.

But it looks like Canada might be having an even bigger problem than Trudeau now with Trudeau's new replacement. See:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113363-BREAKING-NEWS-Continuously-Updated&p=1659916&viewfull=1#post1659916

I can certainly understand your disappointment though, Flash.
I have had a hard time as well seeing all the division on the forum, but that's pretty much happening everywhere.
The whole planet is at a very critical juncture. See:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91348-Ang-Stoic-Astrological-Reports&p=1660142&viewfull=1#post1660142
...which I think is a good description of what everyone may be feeling from an astrological POV. (The astrologer is Australian, by the way...)
But at least on Avalon there is still an exchange of POVs taking place, and enough forum members left still coming up with some news worthy of consideration.
There is always the Ignore option when it comes to members whose POV you don't want to consider at all, and I've used that frequently enough to know it can help.
Finally, it's not ALL about politics, thank goodness! :facepalm: :nod:



I have seen and read and heard soooooo much lies about Canada in these last 2 months, coming from your present administration in US, that I cannot rely anylonger on any report such as those above Onawah.

The lies and manipulations are sooooo widespread in your country, like in Russia or any other dictature, that nothing coming from government channels can be trusted.

I would strongly suggest that you read newspapers or listen to podcasts from other countries regarding what is happening is USA (not opinions but facts reports), you will be astounded, surprised.

What I do is read the english versions of Turkish newspapers for example, they view everything from a different angle, or read French newspapers in their English versions or plain Canadian newspapers and listen to plain Canadian podcasts. Although also sometimes biaised, enumeration of facts is usually quite fair (our press still have some counter checks)

I am soooo sorry this forum has tuned into a blind alley where mobs (your politicians) are free to act as mobs, with approval of members and no, none whatsoever, equilibrated analysis of what is.

gini
13th March 2025, 22:59
dY8DTeOtrQI--4 min---14 /3/25--'JUST IN: President Trump Tells NATO Secretary General To His Face That The US Needs Greenland'

bojancan
13th March 2025, 23:07
these questions are important to consider... for looking forward.. what will be happening through this administration...

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Can Trump Legally Deport Mahmoud Khalil? What About Free Speech? Here’s What Experts Say

Everything you need to know about the Trump administration’s attempt to deport the Columbia student protest negotiator and what’s next.

The Trump administration's communication around the arrest of Columbia University student protest negotiator, Mahmoud Khalil, a green card holder, has brought more questions than answers. Not only is it unclear what evidence, if any, the administration is using to initiate deportation proceedings, but his arrest has also spurred questions about the rights of permanent residents and whether the administration can simply go after someone based on their speech.

Here’s what legal experts say about his arrest, the Trump administration’s actions so far, and what it could mean for other immigrants:

Can a green card holder even be deported? What authority is the Trump administration using to detain Khalil and possibly deport him?

Yes, a green card holder (or lawful permanent resident) can be deported. The most common way is if they committed a crime.

But in Khalil’s case, he has not been charged with any crime. Instead, Secretary of State Marco Rubio personally signed off on targeting Khalil using a narrow, little-used authority from the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), as Zeteo previously reported.

Under the provision – section 237(a)(4)(C)(i) – an immigrant who is not a citizen or US national, but “whose presence or activities in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States is deportable.”

While the provision has an exception for conduct deemed “lawful” in the US (such as free speech), the exception has an exception: if the secretary of state “personally determines that the alien's admission would compromise a compelling United States foreign policy interest.” That personal determination seems to be driving Rubio’s insistence that the Trump administration can deport legal permanent residents whom it deems to be “pro-Hamas.”


A screenshot from Khalil’s notice to appear.

A White House official told the Free Press that “the allegation here is not that [Khalil] was breaking the law,” but rather that he is a “threat to the foreign policy and national security interests of the United States.”

It’s worth mentioning that the Jewish publication Forward called the INA a “McCarthy-era antisemitic law” that was widely viewed at the time of its passage in 1952 as a way to target “Eastern European Jewish Holocaust survivors suspected of being Soviet agents.”

What constitutes someone having “potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States”? Is it constitutional?

The INA provision is extremely vague and doesn’t define any specific metrics the secretary of state must follow in determining whether someone has potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the country.

The provision is rarely used – “that’s how powerful it is,” said Charles Kuck, an immigration attorney and adjunct professor of law at Emory University and the University of Georgia.

The Department of Homeland Security on Saturday accused Khalil of leading “activities aligned to Hamas” and said authorities detained Khalil “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism.” The Trump administration has not provided any specific evidence on which it is basing its determination. Khalil’s legal team has rejected the Trump administration’s claim that Khalil supported a terrorist organization. Khalil himself emailed the university a day before his arrest, worried about his safety, saying he had been harrassed and attacked online by pro-Israel groups that had called for his deportation.

John Sandweg, former acting director for ICE, told CNN that provisions like the one the Trump administration is using to detain Khalil are typically cited if immigration authorities accuse someone of “providing direct financial or operational support to a terror organization.”

He added, “It is far less common for ICE to allege that political views or speech renders a green card holder deportable under the terrorism grounds as that raises significant First Amendment concerns.”

That said, immigration courts, more generally, are often given “wide discretion” in categorizing whether people are “engaging in terrorist activities,” according to Karla McKanders, the director of the NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund’s Thurgood Marshall Institute.

Because the INA provision is so rarely used, it’s hardly been tested in federal court.

It’s worth noting, however, that a district court in 1996 did find that the provision was “unconstitutionally vague,” said Lindsay Nash, an associate professor at Cardozo School of Law and co-director of the Kathryn O. Greenberg Immigration Justice Clinic.

According to Nash, the judge, who was none other than Donald Trump’s sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, essentially said that “providing the secretary of state [the ability] to determine deportability” deprives the court of the role it would “normally have in reviewing these types of determinations.” The law, the court said, also doesn’t give non-citizens a way to know what is prohibited, and it violated procedural due process because “it provides no opportunity to be heard on the charges against you before you're determined to be deportable,” Nash told Zeteo. Ultimately, the court found the provision was an “unconstitutional delegation of legislative power to the executive.”

However, that ruling was thrown out by an appeals court, which did not comment on the constitutionality of the provision but rather said the district court did not have jurisdiction in the case.

In 1999, the Board of Immigration Appeals, which did not address the constitutionality issues, said that under the INA provision, the letter from the secretary of state “conveying the Secretary’s determination that an alien’s presence in this country would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States, and stating facially reasonable and bona fide reasons for that determination, is presumptive and sufficient evidence that the alien is deportable.”

What about the First Amendment?

Courts have previously found that green card holders, who are lawful permanent residents, are protected by the Constitution, including First Amendment rights. “Technically, the text of the First Amendment does not distinguish between citizens and non-citizens – so all persons in the US should be entitled to First Amendment protections,” McKanders told Zeteo.

While Kuck said it’s unlikely an immigration judge would go against Rubio’s determination, Khalil likely has a strong case in federal court.

“It seems to me constitutionally suspect to simply be able to deport someone who is protected by every right of the US constitution without due process,” Kuck said. “I do not believe that when Congress created that provision, it was thinking about a student protesting at a college, and how that could possibly impact the actual foreign policy of the United States. And I think that's a determination that is absolutely subject to judicial review,” he added. “I think the First Amendment absolutely trumps the Immigration Nationality Act.”

For his part, Rubio has said that “this is not about free speech. This is about people that don’t have a right to be in the United States to begin with.”

Yet, when asked about Khalil’s case on Wednesday, Trump border czar Tom Homan said that there are “limits” to free speech.

What happens next in Khalil’s case?

For now, Khalil remains detained in an ICE facility in Louisiana. A federal judge in New York has ordered the government not to deport Khalil while a challenge to his detention is pending. Khalil’s legal team has asked for their client to be moved to New York and released. The government has argued the case should be moved to New Jersey or Louisiana.

Separately, Khalil is scheduled to appear before an immigration judge in Louisiana on March 27.

What could Khalil’s case mean for other green card holders or legal permanent residents? Or those with student visas?

Trump has said there are more arrests to come, and sources within the government told Zeteo there are “multiple targets” beyond Khalil who the administration plans to use the provision to deport. If the Trump administration successfully deports Khalil under the INA provision it is using, legal experts expect the government will continue to target immigrants over their speech.

“The Trump administration's message is clear that it will abuse the law in its racist targeting of immigrant Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, and others,” said Laila Ayub, immigration attorney and director of Project ANAR, an Afghan community immigration justice organization.

Sophie Dalsimer, an immigration attorney and co-director of Health Justice at New York Lawyers for the Public Interest, added: “The arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil represents an extremely disturbing weaponizing of federal law enforcement to punish and silence free speech.”

But she warned that while it may be easier for the Trump administration “to target visa holders, and then [lawful permanent residents], … it is not likely to stop there.”

McKanders agreed. “The topline is that this appears to be a retaliatory deportation for exercising First Amendment rights,” she said.

“The impact expands broader than one case. It is the chilling effect this executive action will have on curtailing both citizen and noncitizens speech as both groups will be afraid that their actions, although protected under the First Amendment, will be criminalized.”

https://zeteo.com/p/can-trump-legally-deport-mahmoud?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2325511&post_id=159004621&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=3y6lwd&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

bojancan
14th March 2025, 00:06
Several Jewish organisations are protesting at Trump Tower in New York - in support of detained Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil.
Police have arrested several protesters.
Dozens of Jewish demonstrators are inside the building - and chanting slogans in support of Palestine.
Mahmoud Khalil is a Columbia University student who remains in detention, as the US government tries to deport him, for his role in campus protests in support of Palestine.

Al Jazeera’s Kristen Saloomey joins us live from New York to discuss the latest developments.


Protesters from Jewish group storm Trump Tower in NYC demanding release of Mahmoud Khalil
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gini
14th March 2025, 03:08
I understood that the case of mn Khalil is not about free speech but about' promoting terrorism' because Hamas is -rightly or not-branded as a terrorist organization.

If mr Khalil as a Syrian on a Foreign visa ,is openly calling for supporting Hamas he is expelled for pro terrorism & anti semitism (sedition) .
Sedition is a crime in the US and most countries.


Lets do our best to keep the debate clean from the mr Globals' disinformation campaign by double check if its really true what is suggested by some (anttiTrump?) videos & articles.

There is a lot of panic & anger in the mainstream media all over the western crounties which are governed by the globalists,and they will spend & do anything to stop the MAGA movement before its spreading all over the world.
In the Netherlands(and most european countries)they not only block the Russian news but also the MAGA /Trump info is suppressed & twisted.
( If i see the emotional reactions from many Canadians here on the forum looks like that in Canada its probably the same constant anti MAGA retorics whats been broadcasted. )

Here we are not interested in superficial,overemotional or cynical opinions but are looking for the truth,the facts and the well thought through analysis from reporters with integrity & intelligence. -
Quality is what sets Project Avalon apart,thats our job as members, to keep ithe level high as possible!:muscle:

Flash
14th March 2025, 03:25
I understood that the case of mn Khalil is not about free speech but about' promoting terrorism' because Hamas is -rightly or not-branded as a terrorist organization.

If mr Khalil as a Syrian on a Foreign visa ,is openly calling for supporting Hamas he is expelled for pro terrorism & anti semitism (sedition) .
Sedition is a crime in the US and most countries.


Lets do our best to keep the debate clean from the mr Globals' disinformation campaign by double check if its really true what is suggested by some (anttiTrump?) videos & articles.

There is a lot of panic & anger in the mainstream media all over the western crounties which are governed by the globalists,and they will spend & do anything to stop the MAGA movement before its spreading all over the world.
In the Netherlands(and most european countries)they not only block the Russian news but also the MAGA /Trump info is suppressed & twisted.
( If i see the emotional reactions from many Canadians here on the forum looks like that in Canada its probably the same constant anti MAGA retorics whats been broadcasted. )

Here we are not interested in superficial,overemotional or cynical opinions but are looking for the truth,the facts and the well thought through analysis from reporters with integrity & intelligence. -
Quality is what sets Project Avalon apart,thats our job as members, to keep ithe level high as possible!:muscle:

Lets the Netherland be threatened in a daily basis, being played like a ping pong ball back and forth with tarifs - all this without their own government votes - and all kinds of lies being spread and then be taken over by big brother 10 times stronger.

Lets say by Germany, Netherland taken by Germany or better more equivalent in power and size, by Russia, like in the last World War, instead of Germany would be Russia, like it happened to Poland then, but this time the Netherland to be scavenged to the bone, and then dare to talk about Canadians.

It is people like you that promotes dictatorship and is blind to reality.

I have nothing against cleaning up, but have a lot against the mafia type of cleaning up.

I would not want you as a neighbour in troubled times, you must be a chicken that will quack to any master

gini
14th March 2025, 05:26
"It is people like you that promotes dictatorship and is blind to reality."Flash post705

No thats untrue,thats a false judgement of someone who apparenty did not read my posts or who knows me personally because i will and never did promote dictatorship,but i am an advocate for free speech,non violent protests and for maximum democracy (-power to the people)-by swiss model of referenda about anything the peeople demand.

Trump is not a dictator but chosen by the majority ,i might not like him ,but he has a mandate from the people.

Thats what is US democracy and that must be respected ,same for Putin ,most russians i met are happy with Potin as their leader-
The International Election Guide says Putin had 77%(!)of the votes in 2024.

By respecting their chosen leaders i respect the choice of the Russian & American voters
In contrast i do not respect Ursula vonder Leyen as a democratic chosen leader because she no mandate of the Europeans.

The thread of war and the growing totaltarianism in Europe are bringing enough worries and anxiety to us here,dont worry about that,we all suffer from the global tensions!

gini
14th March 2025, 05:30
In 38 minute Trump speaks again about the absolute nessecity for denucleararisation. RyM3uaymdW4

jaybee
14th March 2025, 08:41
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Understanding the details of economics + taxation isn't really my thing - but I can see how revolutionary Trumps proposals are in this area regarding Federal Income Tax..... and how uncomfortable it makes the Democrats feel because one of their big talking points that they try to bang home over and over again - and Chuck Schumer repeated it yesterday when climbing down from Government shutdown.... is that Trump is for the rich and reducing taxes for the rich - and isn't for the ordinary working man and woman...

So when it emerges that Trump wants to eliminate Federal Income Tax for anyone earning less than $150,000 a year - and instead raise the money through tariffs - well the Democrats and their backers will not know what to do - how to respond....because it would automatically put more money in the hands of the working class and middle class - as RJ explains in the first 5 minutes of the video below...

Trump Reveals NEW Tax Plan as Gavin Newsom EXILED From Dem Party!! (14:01)

RF-Kk8MpESc

SilentFeathers
14th March 2025, 11:36
Trump is not trying to start a trade war, he is trying to create a better trade balance and bring more industry and manufacturing back to the United States.

If Trump would just stop acting like a buffoon and talking in such an arrogant way about what he's doing, many wouldn't even be paying much attention to it or talking about it.

But he is who he is and it is what it is.....and TES rules the day (Trump Emotional Syndrome).

The same goes for the ridiculous call for Canada to be the 51st State. As the UK and EU pound their chests and march towards WW3 with Russia, perhaps Trump is trying to get Canada to separate themselves more so from the UK/EU than he is trying to get them to be the 51st state???? To be more in line with the US rather than the insane globalists of the UK/EU?????? In my opinion Trump is trying to save Canada more than trying to destroy Canada, especially due to it being a US border country.

In my opinion we are closer to WW3 right now than we were, say a year ago. The insane psychopath globalists see war as their only way to maintaining power and relevance. Trump is trying to stop this or at the very least distancing the US from being involved in such a catastrophic war in hopes of preventing it from happening. Without the backing of the US, the UK and EU are basically toothless in such an assault against Russia, Trump knows this.

The times we are in it's wiser to think with a critical mind rather than an erratic emotional mind.........

Flash
14th March 2025, 17:14
Trump is not trying to start a trade war, he is trying to create a better trade balance and bring more industry and manufacturing back to the United States.

If Trump would just stop acting like a buffoon and talking in such an arrogant way about what he's doing, many wouldn't even be paying much attention to it or talking about it.

But he is who he is and it is what it is.....and TES rules the day (Trump Emotional Syndrome).

The same goes for the ridiculous call for Canada to be the 51st State. As the UK and EU pound their chests and march towards WW3 with Russia, perhaps Trump is trying to get Canada to separate themselves more so from the UK/EU than he is trying to get them to be the 51st state???? To be more in line with the US rather than the insane globalists of the UK/EU?????? In my opinion Trump is trying to save Canada more than trying to destroy Canada, especially due to it being a US border country.

In my opinion we are closer to WW3 right now than we were, say a year ago. The insane psychopath globalists see war as their only way to maintaining power and relevance. Trump is trying to stop this or at the very least distancing the US from being involved in such a catastrophic war in hopes of preventing it from happening. Without the backing of the US, the UK and EU are basically toothless in such an assault against Russia, Trump knows this.

The times we are in it's wiser to think with a critical mind rather than an erratic emotional mind.........

Bon.... another blind forum member! open your eyes! you American have imposed on the whole world your war, you are rich because of taking from others and topling rightfully elected governments to do so, and the rest of the world was unfair to you!!!

F ck, you have never travel and talked to the rest of the 7 billions people that are not Americans.

This is a war, a trade war is a war. Trump is lying through his teeth, his whole mouth, daily. You will bite your fingers when Russia will take over most of the world or when you will receive bad news for your country, playing once again victim of the world.

Don't you know the DARVO method of pervert narcissists? Deny, argue, reverse victim and offender. This is precisely what he is doing.

Gosh, how can you tell Canada is with the EU. Trump is pushing us to be, thanks to Putin's influence most probably. We were your best and strongest allies and are now **** upon. Trump is not trying to stop ww3, he is pusing to have it. He is constantly threatening the world, changing his mind, threatening again,

You are soooooo blind that it is desperating. We have no choice, the rest of the world, but unite against you guys. And more when I see US population soooooooo uneducated, so closed minded to any fact that does not drive with their brainwashed paradigm.

The facts: USA is broke and will do anything to get the wealth and resources of other countries. Why broke? because of corruption and mismanagement, and it is still going on with the present administration.

SilentFeathers
14th March 2025, 18:02
Trump is not trying to start a trade war, he is trying to create a better trade balance and bring more industry and manufacturing back to the United States.

If Trump would just stop acting like a buffoon and talking in such an arrogant way about what he's doing, many wouldn't even be paying much attention to it or talking about it.

But he is who he is and it is what it is.....and TES rules the day (Trump Emotional Syndrome).

The same goes for the ridiculous call for Canada to be the 51st State. As the UK and EU pound their chests and march towards WW3 with Russia, perhaps Trump is trying to get Canada to separate themselves more so from the UK/EU than he is trying to get them to be the 51st state???? To be more in line with the US rather than the insane globalists of the UK/EU?????? In my opinion Trump is trying to save Canada more than trying to destroy Canada, especially due to it being a US border country.

In my opinion we are closer to WW3 right now than we were, say a year ago. The insane psychopath globalists see war as their only way to maintaining power and relevance. Trump is trying to stop this or at the very least distancing the US from being involved in such a catastrophic war in hopes of preventing it from happening. Without the backing of the US, the UK and EU are basically toothless in such an assault against Russia, Trump knows this.

The times we are in it's wiser to think with a critical mind rather than an erratic emotional mind.........

Bon.... another blind forum member! open your eyes! you American have imposed on the whole world your war, you are rich because of taking from others and topling rightfully elected governments to do so, and the rest of the world was unfair to you!!!

F ck, you have never travel and talked to the rest of the 7 billions people that are not Americans.

This is a war, a trade war is a war. Trump is lying through his teeth, his whole mouth, daily. You will bite your fingers when Russia will take over most of the world or when you will receive bad news for your country, playing once again victim of the world.

Don't you know the DARVO method of pervert narcissists? Deny, argue, reverse victim and offender. This is precisely what he is doing.

Gosh, how can you tell Canada is with the EU. Trump is pushing us to be, thanks to Putin's influence most probably. We were your best and strongest allies and are now **** upon. Trump is not trying to stop ww3, he is pusing to have it. He is constantly threatening the world, changing his mind, threatening again,

You are soooooo blind that it is desperating. We have no choice, the rest of the world, but unite against you guys. And more when I see US population soooooooo uneducated, so closed minded to any fact that does not drive with their brainwashed paradigm.

The facts: USA is broke and will do anything to get the wealth and resources of other countries. Why broke? because of corruption and mismanagement, and it is still going on with the present administration.

My eyes are wide open, obviously we see things differently. I didn't bash you, there's no need for you to bash me.

Time will tell how this will all play out.

mountain_jim
14th March 2025, 18:15
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1900587906042892429

1900587906042892429


Elon Musk

@elonmusk
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It was easy to predict. This is their standard playbook.

Look at what they did to President @realDonaldTrump. He was loved by democrats until he ran for president.

Now they call him Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, etc and try to kill him.



Western Lensman
@WesternLensman

2022: Elon predicts the left would launch a “dirty tricks campaign” once he decided to leave the party of “division and hate."

2025: Death threats, Tesla stores shot up, Superchargers firebombed, cyber attacks on 𝕏 and conservative 𝕏 users swatted.

They proved him right.

mountain_jim
14th March 2025, 18:29
So one member gets to repeatedly and personally insult other members in this thread ("brainwashed, blind, stupid, dictatorship-supporting"), with no ramifications?

I can recall in times past when such would generate a moderator response.

In any case, it's no way to win debates and change folks' points of view.

(and I agree the US has been historically responsible for great wrong in the world, but exposing and removing the corrupt globalists, warmongers in charge, going after the evil of human trafficking, exposing CIA MKUltra and Operation Mockingbird media operations, and fixing the spiraling debt in my country all have great appeal and that is what I voted for.)

These goals make one a dictator? - that's deep-state/DemoRat propaganda.

Tariffs to equal the economic playing field and trolling are not the same as war, and it was the corrupt Biden-supported US coup in 2014 in Ukraine that caused that war that our current president is trying to end.


(unverified by me, don't know source for this data)


https://x.com/WallStreetMav/status/1900622690718781831

1900622690718781831


Wall Street Mav
@WallStreetMav
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These are the tariffs Canada was charging the USA even BEFORE Trump.

All that Trump is doing is raising tariffs on Canada to match what they have been doing for many years.

Canada can't have it only their way, protecting their businesses. We want fair trade, not free trade.

7he5ource
14th March 2025, 18:35
they say when you die if honest you go to your honest ancestors
when ppl, talk of --- a speaCIAL place in hell they mean of course satan
who has no ancestors

trump betrayed his ancestors [extended family] when with drew protection from europe and canada
which upset king charles'

these arent just allies its one gene pool from north west Europe]\
its a family]\

if the queen were alive this news would kill her and the pope is dying cause he understands this is a prophesy

''he shall destroy many by peace''
''when they say peace the end shall come suddenly''

SilentFeathers
14th March 2025, 19:01
So one member gets to repeatedly and personally insult other members in this thread ("brainwashed, blind, stupid, dictatorship-supporting"), with no ramifications?

I can recall in times past when such would generate a moderator response.

In any case, it's no way to win debates and change folks' points of view.

(and I agree the US has been historically responsible for great wrong in the world, but exposing and removing the corrupt globalists, warmongers in charge, going after the evil of human trafficking, exposing CIA MKUltra and Operation Mockingbird media operations, and fixing the spiraling debt in my country all have great appeal and that is what I voted for.)

These goals make one a dictator? - that's deep-state/DemoRat propaganda.

Tariffs to equal the economic playing field and trolling are not the same as war, and it was the corrupt Biden-supported US coup in 2014 in Ukraine that caused that war that our current president is trying to end.

I'm honestly more disturbed by Flash's perspective of things rather than the insults hurled at me.

No one really knows what is exactly happening or exactly how things are going to end up (myself included). I just post things how I see it may be, I don't claim to be right or to know exactly what's truly going on.

I do think I'm more on target than Flash though (and less angry and hateful).

I do see Trump doing more positive than negative for the time being and am glad to see it. Those that disagree with me, so be it.

bojancan
14th March 2025, 22:29
It's a long and very very interesting article...

The Dark MAGA Gov-Corp Technate — Part 2

In continuing to unpack the ideologies of the oligarchs who are part of the new Trump administration, Iain Davis examines how their ideas are being translated into policy. He considers the consequent infrastructure rollout that is preparing the US and the world for an imminent Gov-corp Technate within a multipolar world.

In Part 1 (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/) of this series, we explored the political philosophies that have long been adopted and promoted by Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and considered the implications, given both men’s obvious influence on the Trump administration. Musk is a high-profile advocate of Technocracy, and Peter Thiel is an accelerationist neoreactionary who favours, in particular, the Dark Enlightenment. Before you read this article (Part 2), I urge you to familiarise yourself with the explanations of Technocracy and the NRx (the neoreactionary movement) provided in Part 1 (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/). Otherwise, many of the references here will lack context.

As we noted in Part 1 (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/), Thiel and Musk are part of the oligarchic class by virtue of being invited to join a network led by other oligarchs whose stratospheric wealth far surpasses that of the names published on the “richest people in the world” lists. Welcomed into their exclusive club, Thiel and Musk are made men. In Part 2, we will explore how the political philosophies and the associated economic theories of Thiel and Musk are shaping public policy. Keep in mind that these two men are far from alone in attempting to create an American gov-corp Technate.

Libertarian Technocrats?

Although they borrow some libertarian ideas, there is nothing truly “libertarian” about either technocrats or accelerationist neoreactionaries. Their convoluted theories, once applied, could not be more authoritarian, more anti-liberty. Just as it is an oxymoron to describe Musk as a “libertarian technocrat,” so is it absurd to think of Peter Thiel as an “anarcho-capitalist.” Yet propagandists persist in encouraging us to see them in these terms. Witness a 2014 article in The Atlantic titled “The Libertarian Capitalist’s Case for State Power and Making No Money.”

It is possible that people like Thiel and Musk self-identify as libertarians because they think “liberty” means freedom granted by — and to — the oligarchy.

In Part 1 (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/), we referenced the Venetian Republic. The Doge of Venice was the ruler of the banking, finance, and commercial empire of the Venetian Republic. That is to say, the Doge was given the liberty to rule by the oligarchs of the day. We might wonder if the naming of the Department of Government Efficiency (the DOGE) that Musk leads deliberately references the Venetian magistrate. Some say it does, while others suggest another possibility.

Created as a joke in 2013 by cryptographers Billy Markus and Jackson Palmer, the Dogecoin, a memecoin, has seen its price and market cap soar and fluctuate wildly thanks in no small measure to Elon Musk’s comments about it. Much of Musk’s talk about Dogecoin has been deliberately provocative. For example, in 2019 he declared himself the “former CEO of Dogecoin,” though that was never the case. His social media posts alone have provoked major changes in the price of Dogecoin. Musk has also aggressively hiked its value by, for instance, hinting it might become the basis of the proposed “X pay” payment system on his newly acquired ‘X’ platform — formerly Twitter.

Musk encouraged bullish investment in Dogecoin. Of course, just because someone encourages you to do something that doesn’t negate your personal responsibility to conduct due diligence. When some investors lost their shirts, as Dogecoin prices tumbled, they tried to sue Musk in 2022 with a potential $258 billion class action lawsuit. The case was dismissed last year. The judge ruled that Musk’s comments were just “aspirational and puffery, not factual and susceptible to being falsified.” Though it is worth noting the offhand comments of one man took the Dogecoin from a literal joke — a crypto parody — to achieving a market capitalisation of $14.5 billion in 2021.

If there is an in-joke to the naming of the DOGE, nominally led by Elon Musk, some argue it is Musk’s fondness for the Dogecoin that is reflected in the D.O.G.E acronym. Yet, the symbolism of “the Doge ”— one who is granted the liberty to rule by oligarchs — is perhaps more conspicuous. Just as with the term “Accelerator” — meaning high-impact investment to accelerate the growth of a startup — an obvious underpinning ideology is implied, even if rarely discussed.

In the introduction to his 2012 treatise, “The Dark Enlightenment,” political philosopher Nick Land highlighted the importance of an article written three years earlier by oligarch Thiel.

Land wrote:


One milestone was the April 2009 discussion hosted at Cato Unbound among libertarian thinkers (including Patri Friedman and Peter Thiel) in which disillusionment with the direction and possibilities of democratic politics was expressed with unusual forthrightness. Thiel summarized the trend bluntly: “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”
In a related article Thiel penned, titled “The Education of a Libertarian,” he was describing himself, and yet the personal philosophy he outlined in it was pure accelerationist neoreactionism.

Thiel opined that “the prospects for a libertarian politics appear grim indeed,” given that the government’s response to every crisis was “more government.” He also claimed that the post-WWI deflationary depression in Western nations was the last “sharp but short” shock to have allowed the alleged advantages of Schumpeterian “creative destruction” to flourish. After that depression, he said, so-called “democratic” politics had stifled the opportunities to capitalise on crises. As a result, Thiel said he no longer believed “that politics encompasses all possible futures of our world.”

Asserting, in so many words, that democracies were useless, Thiel announced he had found a new life goal:

In our time, the great task for libertarians is to find an escape from politics in all its forms — from the totalitarian and fundamentalist catastrophes to the unthinking demos that guides so-called “social democracy.” The critical question then becomes one of means, of how to escape not via politics but beyond it.
For Thiel, the “unthinking demos” is us: the holders of the “neo-puritan faith” in progressive “social democracy” — the acolytes of the Cathedral (and the people whom Nick Land considers “inarticulate proles”). In Thiel’s view, we must embrace our “technoplastic” future, become intelligible, move beyond politics, and liberate capitalist innovation by swearing fealty to the gov-corp model.

To this end, Thiel identified three “technological frontiers” upon which he could construct his darkly enlightened aristocracy.

[1] Cyberspace was the first frontier he identified. There, Thiel focused on creating “a new world currency, free from all government control and dilution.” Cyberspace would enable “new modes of dissent and new ways to form communities not bounded by historical nation-states” — and would result in a new world that would “force change on the existing social and political order.”
[2] Outer space would be another Thiel frontier, where the “libertarian future of classic science fiction” could be built.
[3] Seasteading would be his interim frontier, where the unclaimed oceans could be settled by humans. He called seasteading “more tentative than the Internet, but much more realistic than space travel.” Seasteading would at least give us the time to develop the outer-space ideas on earth, prior to colonising the stars.
These frontiers are necessary, Thiel insisted, because “we are in a deadly race between politics and technology.” He concluded:

We do not know exactly how close this race is, but I suspect that it may be very close, even down to the wire. Unlike the world of politics, in the world of technology the choices of individuals may still be paramount. The fate of our world may depend on the effort of a single person [Trump?] who builds or propagates the machinery of freedom that makes the world safe for capitalism. [Emphasis added.]
Between 2006 and 2012, Thiel was instrumental in organising the Singularity Summits convened by the Machine Intelligence Research Institute — originally the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence (SIAI) — in partnership with Stanford University. Thiel provided much of the funding.

Thiel cannot be both an advocate of accelerationist neoreaction and simultaneously an anarcho-capitalist — a libertarian. The two philosophies are mutually exclusive.

In Part 1 (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/), we noted the technocrats’ rejection of the notion that “all men are created equal.” In a similar vein, Land, Yarvin, Fisher, and other accelerationists consider it essential to have a ruling entity, which can only be comprised of a few human beings exercising an unequal, additional right to rule. Both the technocrats and the accelerationists fundamentally misunderstand, or misinterpret, what the Preamble to The Declaration of Independence means. They completely ignore the second clause of the relevant declaration — namely, “that they [human beings] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

“Equality,” in real libertarian thinking, does not infer a held belief that everyone is the same — though that is certainly how technocrats interpret the word.

Libertarian “equality” doesn’t deny that people have relative strengths and weaknesses. It is not a rejection of either leadership or possible forms of meritocracy. It self-evidently means that every human being has an equal right to “Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.” These rights are unalienable — or inalienable. Our rights are not decided for us by others or limited by others, and no one on earth has any more or any fewer “equal rights” than anyone else.

This idea is not difficult to grasp. It is central to the political philosophy of anarcho-capitalism, as clearly enunciated by Murray Rothbard (1926–1995):

[N]o man or group of men may aggress against the person or property of anyone else. This may be called the “nonaggression axiom.” “Aggression” is defined as the initiation of the use or threat of physical violence against the person or property of anyone else.
Anarcho-capitalism wholeheartedly rejects the initiation of the use of force — the aggressive imposition of claimed authority — by the state to coerce individual persons or seize their property. An example is the threat of fining or imprisoning someone who hasn’t paid taxes to the “proper” authorities. Anarcho-capitalism resoundingly rejects the state and all its dictatorial demands.

By contrast, the proponents of Technocracy and the proponents of the Dark Enlightenment, such as Musk and Thiel, are not interested in restricting state power, though they may say otherwise. Instead they wish to move the state from the public to the private sector and expand its power once sufficiently privatized. True, they oppose “representative democracy” and characterise it as both a “democracy” (which it isn’t) and a bureaucratic system riddled with problems (which it is), but the solutions they offer, to all intents and purposes, magnify the power of the very state they supposedly condemn.

What the believers in Technocracy and the believers in the Dark Enlightenment both propose are compartmentalised, hierarchical sociopolitical power structures that couldn’t be more state-like or more authoritarian. They seek to expand and maximise the power of the state, though in slightly different ways. Calling their new model of the state either a Technate (as technocrats do) or a gov-corp (as accelerationist neoreactionaries do) doesn’t change the nature of the tyrannical statism they desire to foist on the rest of us.

The Technopopulist Myth

The term “technopopulism,” coined by political theorists Christopher Bickerton and Carlo Accetti, has increasingly been bandied about. While the US voters who elected Trump were offered technopopulist promises, this was clearly a sales pitch to entice them to support a gov-corp Technate.

“Populism” can be broadly defined as a political attempt to “appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.” “Technocracy” is commonly said to mean “a government or social system that is controlled or influenced by experts in science or technology.”

Neither left-wing nor right-wing, technopopulism promises a new kind of politics based on the belief that the more limited role of elected politicians is to put the appropriate teams of experts together to guide policy and to find technological solutions to social and economic problems, thereby benefiting “ordinary people.” But the apparent technopopulist offer to retain democratic accountability in the US is a deceit.

The technopopulists say they want to unleash “technocracy” — with a small “t” — for the public good. But the new government system they propose is constructing “Technocracy” — with a big “T” — to serve the interests of the “American elites.”

This is evident from The Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 (aka The 2025 Presidential Transition Project), Promise to America. It claims its purpose is to “defang and defund the woke culture warriors who have infiltrated every last institution in America.” While defanging and defunding woke warriors holds allure for American voters, the Project 2025 methodology actually subverts US “representative democracy.”

The Trump administration is evidently closely allied with Project 2025 — denials notwithstanding. One such obvious tie: Trump has nominated Russell Vought to return to the post of director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), and, by no coincidence, Vought was a key figure in convening the Project 2025 initiative. Project 2025 contributors were influential in Trump’s first administration and are no less conspicuous in his current picks for office.

Project 2025 sets a presidential agenda for the first 180 days in office that seeks to empower the executive branch to meet these key goals: dramatically reduce the size of the public sector bureaucracy; privatise and deregulate the functions of the state; and liberate American technological innovation by “shuttering” it off from the China tech sector’s alleged infiltration.

Thus, according to Project 2025, US technology can, if applied properly, be used to resolve all manner of social problems—from anti-American inequality of opportunity in the education system to woke propaganda infesting the media. In other words, American technology produced by Americans and for Americans can supply every long-sought answer to America’s ills. The power of American AI can be set free to, for example, police social media and tackle abuses such as Medicare fraud. Project 2025 offers the additional justification that the US is in an AI arms race with China and, therefore, must invest in AI accordingly.

Trump issued a slew of executive orders following his inauguration. These days, this is not an unusual practice for an incoming US president. However, Trump’s EOs were clearly heavily influenced by Project 2025.

Ironically, The Heritage Foundation and its Project 2025 are bankrolled by some of the “elites” the project accuses of betraying Americans. The Coors, Koch, Uihlein, Barre Seid, Bradley, and Scaiffe families are among the financial backers of both the Foundation and Project 2025.

Rather than technopopulists it is the “TechnoKings” (see Part 1 (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/)) who have been “assisting” Trumps selection of his administration’s personnel. Musk’s influence is well known but Marc Andreessen, the venture capitalist co-founder of Andreessen Horowitz, is another influencer. Andreessen has not just been involved in making Trump’s picks for technology and economic related positions — areas where he perhaps has some expertise — but also for US defense and intelligence posts.

Andreessen’s Machiavellian reasons for supporting Trump are obvious. As reported by the Verge, in July 2024 Andreessen spelled out that he and his partners were backing Trump, not because they shared any of the concerns voiced by Republican voters, but because they could use the Trump administration to deliver the regulatory environment they wanted for their project to succeed.

That project is a gov-corp Technate. Not technopopulism but Techno-Optimism.

In 2023, Marc Andreessen published The Techno-Optimist Manifesto. He explained precisely why he and his TechKing partners have seized their opportunity:

We can advance to a far superior way of living, and of being. [. . .] We believe that there is no material problem – whether created by nature or by technology – that cannot be solved with more technology. [. . .] We have a problem of poverty, so we invent technology to create abundance. Give us a real world problem, and we can invent technology that will solve it.

[. . .] Combine technology and markets and you get what Nick Land has termed the techno-capital machine, the engine of perpetual material creation, growth, and abundance.[. . .] We believe in accelerationism – the conscious and deliberate propulsion of technological development – to [. . .] ensure the techno-capital upward spiral continues forever. [. . .]
We believe intelligence is in an upward spiral, [. . .] as people form symbiotic relationships with machines into new cybernetic systems. [. . .] We believe Artificial Intelligence is our alchemy, our Philosopher’s Stone. [. . .] We believe in Augmented Intelligence just as much as we believe in Artificial Intelligence. Intelligent machines augment intelligent humans, driving a geometric expansion of what humans can do. ....../continued/

MORE BELLOW:

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-reports/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-2/

bojancan
14th March 2025, 22:56
Here is ZETEO ... interesting talk!!!

https://zeteo.com/p/musk-vs-trump-team-who-will-come?utm_source=live-stream-redirect&triedRedirect=true

Musk vs Trump Team: Who Will Come Out On Top?
Tara Palmeri, author of 'The Red Letter,' gives Mehdi the inside scoop on how the White House is handling Musk's abrasive takeover.

Tensions in the White House are growing between billionaire Elon Musk and Trump’s cabinet, as Musk not only continues to fire thousands of federal employees, but also continues to treat the cabinet, “like messenger boys.”

That’s according to investigative political journalist Tara Palmeri, who recently launched her own Substack, ‘The Red Letter’. Palmeri joined Mehdi for a Substack Live to discuss President Donald Trump and Musk’s unusual relationship, as well as the cabinet’s tense relationship with the billionaire.

Palmeri tells Mehdi that there is a “myriad of feelings towards Elon Musk. They hate him, they loathe him, they think he’s a weirdo… and they’re also terrified of him.”

Watch the full conversation to hear Mehdi and Palmeri talk about Musk and Trump’s unusual relationship, how Musk’s cutting of government agencies is wreaking havoc, and whether or not Musk and Trump are bound to have a falling out.

Video below:

https://zeteo.com/p/musk-vs-trump-team-who-will-come?utm_source=live-stream-redirect&triedRedirect=true

East Sun
15th March 2025, 01:09
When you say TODAY all the time what DATE are you talking about???

onawah
15th March 2025, 02:58
INSIDE THREAT! Congressional Leader Drops DIRE Warning! Insiders Hiding Something w/BAD Consequences
Lisa Haven
504K subscribers
Mar 14, 2025

(The issue is the actual incapacity of many members of Congress to do their job due to advanced years, poor health and just plain mental ineptitude.
It's an incredibly important issue that has been ignored or put on the back burner far too much and for far too long.
It's unclear whether Trump becoming POTUS again is related to the issue coming to the fore now, but according to this story there is a lot of infighting presently in Congress over the issue.
It probably does lead back to Trump since his tendency is to stir things up so much, but he could also be impacted unfavorably himself due to his age.
In many cases the problems related to senility, poor health and advanced age have been blatantly obvious, such as with Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi.
In other cases the problems are just as bad but not as obvious, though it seems the number of incapacitated members has generally been greatly underestimated.
In any case, it's way past time to do something about it, and hopefully now something will.)

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ThePythonicCow
15th March 2025, 06:18
I can recall in times past when such would generate a moderator response.
Sometimes it's best to let each reader of a thread come to their own conclusions, rather than leaning in any more heavily than any other member might with our own views.

ThePythonicCow
15th March 2025, 06:32
In Part 1 (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/) of this series
I linkified these references to Part 1 (https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/) in this post, for the convenience of any readers wanting to read there.

Johnnycomelately
15th March 2025, 07:43
Hey what’s going on here?



I can recall in times past when such would generate a moderator response.
Sometimes it's best to let each reader of a thread come to their own conclusions, rather than leaning in any more heavily than any other member might with our own views.



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jaybee
15th March 2025, 09:38
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More no nonsense reporting from RJ Talks... on 14th March...

Dems CAVE to Trump go FULL CIVIL WAR to OUST Party Leadership!! (14:22)


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beginning - Government shutdown avoided - Chuck Schumer's vote - anger from Democrats -

@6:45 - autopen scandal - from Biden's time in the role of President -

@9.00 - Tesla attacks - Pam Bondi warning they are going after the billionaires funding it -

@10:20 - Epstein Files, Assassination attempts on Trump, Jan 6th investigation - RJ urges the release of files -

T Smith
15th March 2025, 12:08
Trump is not trying to start a trade war, he is trying to create a better trade balance and bring more industry and manufacturing back to the United States.

If Trump would just stop acting like a buffoon and talking in such an arrogant way about what he's doing, many wouldn't even be paying much attention to it or talking about it.

But he is who he is and it is what it is.....and TES rules the day (Trump Emotional Syndrome).

The same goes for the ridiculous call for Canada to be the 51st State. As the UK and EU pound their chests and march towards WW3 with Russia, perhaps Trump is trying to get Canada to separate themselves more so from the UK/EU than he is trying to get them to be the 51st state???? To be more in line with the US rather than the insane globalists of the UK/EU?????? In my opinion Trump is trying to save Canada more than trying to destroy Canada, especially due to it being a US border country.

In my opinion we are closer to WW3 right now than we were, say a year ago. The insane psychopath globalists see war as their only way to maintaining power and relevance. Trump is trying to stop this or at the very least distancing the US from being involved in such a catastrophic war in hopes of preventing it from happening. Without the backing of the US, the UK and EU are basically toothless in such an assault against Russia, Trump knows this.

The times we are in it's wiser to think with a critical mind rather than an erratic emotional mind.........

Bon.... another blind forum member! open your eyes! you American have imposed on the whole world your war, you are rich because of taking from others and topling rightfully elected governments to do so, and the rest of the world was unfair to you!!!

F ck, you have never travel and talked to the rest of the 7 billions people that are not Americans.

This is a war, a trade war is a war. Trump is lying through his teeth, his whole mouth, daily. You will bite your fingers when Russia will take over most of the world or when you will receive bad news for your country, playing once again victim of the world.

Don't you know the DARVO method of pervert narcissists? Deny, argue, reverse victim and offender. This is precisely what he is doing.

Gosh, how can you tell Canada is with the EU. Trump is pushing us to be, thanks to Putin's influence most probably. We were your best and strongest allies and are now **** upon. Trump is not trying to stop ww3, he is pusing to have it. He is constantly threatening the world, changing his mind, threatening again,

You are soooooo blind that it is desperating. We have no choice, the rest of the world, but unite against you guys. And more when I see US population soooooooo uneducated, so closed minded to any fact that does not drive with their brainwashed paradigm.

The facts: USA is broke and will do anything to get the wealth and resources of other countries. Why broke? because of corruption and mismanagement, and it is still going on with the present administration.

I'll give you points for provocation and passion, Flash. But these ad hominem rants you sometimes go on (throwing in allusions to Putin for good measure) do get the best of you. I would characterize only a very few members here on the forum who are blinded and uneducated, but those you have called out are most definitely not among them.

Looking past all that to give your views their due, I find some of your claims persistently lack follow through and support and leave me wanting:

What evidence do you have Trump is lying through his teeth, and specifically about what? I'm eager to consider. We all do understand Donald Trump has a grandiose communication style and often exaggerates, sometimes with hyperbole and a very broad brush, but this is hardly unique in politics. Contrarily, relative to every POTUS in my lifetime, Trump is by far the most genuine. In fact, to a fault. His very authenticity, i.e., he doesn't "hide" some of his personality shortcomings with polish and sheen (what you see and hear is what you get) is likely the very reason you and others despise him so and associate so many misnomers and falsehoods to his Man-of-the-Street demeanor.

We've already hashed out the fentanyl issue -- so we don't need to go there. Let's agree the Fentanyl issue is but a small part of the trade dispute. Specifically, given your many posts and views about the issue, why do you feel is it okay for Canada to levy 250% - 300% tariffs and duties on American farmers exporting dairy products into Canada without expecting reciprocal measures on Canadian exports to balance and level the playing field? Likewise with livestock, crops, and other natural resources? What justification do you give the Crown for subsidizing the stumpage fee on the Canadian lumber harvest exported to the United States, effectively squeezing out the domestic lumber industry in the United States, without expecting similar measures by the government of the United States? You escalate the trade dispute by bandying about terms like "war" -- which is my view is not only reckless, but incorrect -- I wouldn't go so far to say the Crown's stumpage subsidy on lumber, or on other tariffs imposed, is a "war" specially against the U.S., but it is most certainly a war against free markets.

I find many who are so passionate about these issues really do not have a solid grasp on the economic issues that underlie what is happening here. We can debate the virtues of free markets vs. socialism vs. communism all day long and forever until we all agree on Nirvana. But as I've said before (and will reiterate again) regardless of your ideological position on these issues, the United States is presently undergoing a radical breakaway from the globalist/crony socialist order with which it was previously entwined, and it is moving back to a system more resemblant of free markets and nationalist interests. Or simply (reducing that to the sixth-grade reading level the general population understands), MAGA. You may disagree with that, and many do. But that's what's happening here. None should be surprised that in the process of this breakaway, imposing a fair market trading system onto its globalist neighbors & trading partners by leveling the playing field is going to ruffle some feathers and will likely be a rocky transition.

TrumanCash
15th March 2025, 14:37
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Ends FDA Loophole Allowing Big Food to Sneak Harmful Chemicals Into U.S. Food Supply -- Video


https://x.com/i/status/1900299846025720019

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: “In the final months of the election, President Trump repeatedly called for removing toxins from our food supply. He added his voice to the millions of MAHA moms who were touting the Make America Healthy Again agenda.

The first step is radical transparency because, right now, not even the U.S. government knows what’s in our food. In 1958, the government created a designation called Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) so that common ingredients like salt and baking soda could be exempt from testing.

But today, it isn’t just salt and baking soda. Food companies and cooperative regulators have expanded the GRAS exemption, allowing these companies to decide for themselves whether a substance is generally recognized as safe. No FDA approval is needed.

European nations, on the other hand, require that a chemical be proven safe before it becomes a food ingredient. In our country, the GRAS standard means that every chemical is presumed safe until proven dangerous. That proof might not come until millions of Americans are suffering from chronic disease. This mass experiment on the American population with GRAS has, in short, been a catastrophe.

We now have around 10,000 chemicals in our food. Europe has only 400.

For example, titanium dioxide—potentially linked to DNA damage and cancer—is banned in the EU, but it’s in our children’s food. Potassium bromate, a suspected carcinogen, is banned in Europe and Japan. You guessed it—it’s in our children’s bread.

Food dyes such as Red Dye 40 and Yellow 5 and 6 come with warning labels in Europe. They’re linked to behavioral issues in children. But in the U.S., they are generally recognized as safe.

We can’t really blame the food companies. They’re just doing what we’ve allowed them to get away with in a system that has taken on a life of its own. We all agree now that it’s time to change the system—and that’s exactly what we’re going to do.

Today, I am directing the FDA Commissioner to start the process of changing the rules to eliminate the self-affirming GRAS pathway for new ingredients. I am also directing the FDA and NIH to ramp up post-market assessments of GRAS chemicals currently in our food so that we can rapidly identify the compounds making Americans sick and so that consumers and regulators can make informed decisions.

This issue isn’t going away. Moms aren’t going to go back to wanting chemicals in our food that are banned in other developed countries. Even the industry knows that we have to change.

So, I promise you, I am going to work with all parties—the companies, the moms, and the scientists—to make American food the healthiest in the world, just as it was when I was a child.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/health-secretary-robert-f-kennedy-jr-ends-fda/

Kryztian
15th March 2025, 15:25
The Division of Homeland Security in the Trump Administration demands that Columbia University comply with numerous demands, including putting their Middle East studies program into a receivership program for five years, suspending students for several years for participating in protests and revoking their diplomas. The Trump Administration is clearly trying to end the First Amendment to the U.S. constitution and bypassing the principle of Due Process.

I haven't found any other media coverage of this subject except this video by Glenn Greenwald. He starts at about 12:50 on the video and at 39:30 interviews Alex Abdo, who is the Litigation Director at the First Amendment institute at Columbia University.

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gini
15th March 2025, 20:07
Thanks Kryztian for posting the above video from Glenn Greenwald. i had not read yet or heard it explained clearly as in this video.
This is indeed alarming,and i cant comprehend the lack of logic to sacrifice the most essential freedom for protecting the obvious dirty lies about the genocide & the horrible Zionist's aggression against Palestinians. This will backfire big time! All hell will break lose and this prohibition wont work ofcourse , this is very sad and not even Israel will benefit from this.

bojancan
15th March 2025, 23:58
I am adding this video here too... it's in Palestine thread...

It's Getting Worse...
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gini
16th March 2025, 04:59
'Trump officials: 'Free speech has limits'' msbo0ybD6Ok. ---12 min-16 Mar 2025
The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate on the Trump administration's full bore war on the First Amendment, and the Israeli forces pulling its strings.'

ThePythonicCow
16th March 2025, 06:33
... the United States is presently undergoing a radical breakaway from the globalist/crony socialist order with which it was previously entwined, and it is moving back to a system more resemblant of free markets and nationalist interests.

Yes ... a major task ... that has taken deep planning and preparation.

Merkaba360
16th March 2025, 10:54
The main thing to remember is that Biden and that faction literally are pretty much intentionally doing everything wrong and harmful. So, as all of us 'blind' people have pointed out, we are glad to see Mr. T doing at least 50% positive and far far more honesty and transparency. Again we are comparing to the usual 90% lies.

Not to mention, I'm very confident it doesn't matter if he isn't purely good. He is waking up more than ever and shaking the scam system really hard. If that is the cabal's plan, I laugh at them. Awakening the masses with all kinds of revelations and just rattling everything, is what I want. I'd love for the awakening to be easy, but since the covid scandal wasn't even enough, I guess we need a harder shaking or at least a series of similar degree shakings.

The post on the canadian tariffs are apparently partly true, unless grok is wrong. Can anyone verify. Perhaps they are exaggerating to justify putting so many tariffs on canada. But really , they are going to do it to rebuild the American metal industries and what not, and/or put the heat on Canada to make them aligned with MAGA for the NA Union and crush their woke stupidity.


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TrumanCash
16th March 2025, 13:09
MAHA and Health Freedom are going to get a serious haircut

I’ve seen enough evidence. I’ve listened to the torch bearers of the Movement. I’m making the call.

By the time MAHA reaches its ultimate degree of influence, it will have lost of most of its hair in the process. And it will deliver very little.

Its whole basis has to change. Radically.

People can continue dreaming if they want to. They can continue to make a personal investment of faith in Robert Kennedy if they want to. But the intelligent thing to do is: separate personal faith and admiration for the man from what he will actually accomplish, given his approach to solving issues.

He shows no signs of knocking down walls. He’s not the extreme disruptor he needs to be.

Make no mistake about it, the entrenched medical/pharmaceutical establishment can only be toppled from its throne by massive popular revolt.

How that happens…this is what I’ve been writing and speaking about. Listen to my recent podcast here.

Very smart lawyers, who are dedicated to Health Freedom and who have worked cases with Kennedy, are thrilled by his confirmation as head of Health and Human Services. They’re clueless.

The deep ongoing crimes of the medical cartel aren’t going to be solved in the courts. Or on Capitol Hill. Or through reform at the FDA, CDC, and NIH.

MAHA, on its present course, will achieve some results at those federal agencies. But not enough. Celebrations will be delusional.

https://jonrappoport.substack.com/p/maha-and-health-freedom-are-going-to-get-a-serious-haircut?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=806546&post_id=158982591&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=bgzs1&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

ThePythonicCow
16th March 2025, 13:29
Make no mistake about it, the entrenched medical/pharmaceutical establishment can only be toppled from its throne by massive popular revolt.
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The deep ongoing crimes of the medical cartel aren’t going to be solved in the courts. Or on Capitol Hill. Or through reform at the FDA, CDC, and NIH.

MAHA, on its present course, will achieve some results at those federal agencies. But not enough. Celebrations will be delusional.
It's a multifront war.

The court battles are just one front.

More honest information on the consequences and effects of public health measures, heard by more who themselves or their children are being drastically harmed, sometimes highlighted by a court case, sometimes told through a main stream news media that has become a weaker, less omnipotent purveyor of the "main stream narrative", and sometimes from their personal doctors who feel less legally at risk when speaking the truth ... these are needed to fully energized the necessary public outrage.

The law, the legislation, the regulation, the medical "standards of care", the news reporting, the "government stats", ... all need to be attacked.

T Smith
16th March 2025, 15:03
The post on the canadian tariffs are apparently partly true, unless grok is wrong. Can anyone verify. Perhaps they are exaggerating to justify putting so many tariffs on canada. But really , they are going to do it to rebuild the American metal industries and what not, and/or put the heat on Canada to make them aligned with MAGA for the NA Union and crush their woke stupidity.



Exactly right. Call it exaggerating, hyperbole, whatever. The "tariff claims" widely touted as lies by legacy media (and others) are indeed true, but only after American dairy farmers exceed their quotas. The Trump administration's rhetoric conveying the restricted markets to the public (and which the legacy media ignores)--let's call it communication flourish--is something the general public understands well at the sixth-grade level. But the real issue is nuances and loopholes in the trade agreement at the collegiate level that effectively deny the US fair market access under USMCA, and which restrict US exporters from ever coming anywhere near their quotas. This is widely acknowledged and something even the Biden administration took issue with. But at the end of the day, the more-friendly (globalist/socialist) Biden administration looked past these loopholes and condoned Canada’s supply-management system that sets prices and controls on production and imports, stifling competition--namely exports from the United States.

What the Trump Administration is doing by calling out Canada on this, via his various communication flourishes, is informing his sixth-grade class that Canada is unfairly undermining--even breaking--their obligations under the USMCA trade agreement, and through executive action, announcing a leveling of the playing field. Or simply, putting our globalist friends in the North on notice that the modus operandi of this US administration is to rebuild American industry, effectively "putting the heat on" to align their nation into a MAGA-friendly North American Union.

TrumanCash
16th March 2025, 15:28
51st Staters: Canadians Who Want To Be Part of the US Are Swearing Allegiance to America (VIDEO)

Because the US is tired of subsidizing the Canadian economy while also guaranteeing their security, President Donald J. Trump has floated the shockingly unexpected idea of annexing Canada as ‘the 51st state’.

The idea fell like a bomb in the great white north, and in a first poll, more than 10% of the population is already behind it.

In some Canadian provinces like Alberta, the idea is gaining ground. Bison farmer Don Casselman worries that Canada is doomed and, if Alberta is to save itself, it must break away and become a US state.

After all, with just 63,000 military troops to defend over 10 million km2, it is powerless against incursions by Russia or China.

The Telegraph reported:

“The answer, to Mr Casselman, was obvious. ‘I want President Trump to come and visit us’, he said, referring to the bison ranch-turned-separatist hub that stretched out over the fields into the distance. Perhaps a plan could be hashed out with Danielle Smith, Alberta’s conservative premier, for the absorption of Alberta into the United States. ‘I want my children to understand what it means to be free’.”

Initially, most people imagined that Trump’s idea was nothing but a good old-fashioned troll, but ‘Governor’ Trudeau soon learnt to take the ‘threat’ seriously.

The secessionist provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan make up almost exactly 10 per cent of the country that was polled to be favorable to the 51st state idea.

If these provinces make a concerted effort to leave, it could ‘unravel the basis of the Canadian state.’.

“’I’m thinking of moving with my family to the US’, sighed Chris Hunter, a 40-year-old oil worker, over a pint of beer at the [Edmonton] bar. […] While Mr. Hunter was not an active supporter of secession, he said he would reconsider his decision to leave Alberta if Mr. Trump took over. ‘He’s a businessman’, Mr. Hunter said, ‘and so am I’.”

“Over a lunch of hot dogs, the separatists shared the beliefs that had steeled them to face public derision. Some mentioned vaccine mandates imposed by the federal government, others the harsh treatment of the 2022 ‘Freedom Convoy’ trucker protest, which snaked from Alberta to the capital.”

Albertan citizen James Goransrud talked about the imposition of a carbon tax: “It’s taxation without representation, and historically that’s a problem, right?”

Others complain that Alberta is ‘better at killing patients than treating them’, following the and wide popularization legalization of ‘assisted suicide’ (a.k.a. euthanasia).

“’All we’re doing is saying we want this, yeah, we accept President Trump’s offer’, [oil worker Peter] Downing said, while 18-wheeler trucks roared past on the snow-fringed highway outside the window. ‘We want lower taxes. And we want to never pay another dime to Ottawa through ‘equalization.” […] Moreover, if Mr Trump took power, ‘Drill, Baby, Drill’ would remove the shackles from Alberta’s oil industry.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/51st-staters-canadians-who-want-be-part-us/

mountain_jim
16th March 2025, 17:48
https://x.com/catturd2/status/1901309873578541501

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bojancan
17th March 2025, 00:04
Just watched this one below... Trump, president of peace... yes... all Trump supporters fell for his lies.. on and on...
Very interesting... only this country... Jemen oppose genocide so outspokenly... SAD!!!!

BREAKING: Trump Launches NEW WAR For Israel, STRIKES Yemen! w/ Mohammad Marandi
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bojancan
17th March 2025, 00:45
It's becoming crazy and crazier also in economy... I just listen this one!!! I am hoping, that trump will acknowledge what he is doing... talking like a moron... he is a flipping flopper too!!!
He is the best of giving people lies... lies and more lies...


Trump PANICS after Top Economist goes OFF SCRIPT, WRECKS him LIVE on AIR
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Rizotto
17th March 2025, 08:35
In response to Trumancash #735 post above, it needs to be said again: the Trump regime is doing a psyop on Canadians, by making a number of false claims, with the hope that social media will just run with it. That may be partly happening, but there's the strong possibility that much of the pro-Trump chatter is generated and distributed by AI bots. The Trump regime has shown itself to be sleazy enough for doing something like this.

In reality, Canada is not subsidized by the USA, never has been. The USA hasn't been protecting Canada militarily, on the contrary. The USA has made the world a more dangerous place with it numerous regime change operations that resulted in building up much hatred against it. USA has used Canada's airspace for military operations that potentially make Canada a target from some foreign power retaliating against USA. Once again, Trump's tariffs are nonsensical. They'll just end up harming ordinary citizens the most.

Looks more like the Trump regime's main intention is to keep on with chaotic announcements and flip-flops. It all appears to be an increasingly desperate attempt at maintaining global perception of the USA as the one and only superpower, that gets to create the rules and smash down anybody who objects. Just all show to remain in the limelight. If that's working at all, it's only with the gullible. Most folks with critical thinking skills see that it's all theatre, that soon will burn itself out. It's inevitable.

ThePythonicCow
17th March 2025, 10:14
Looks more like the Trump regime's main intention is to keep on with chaotic announcements and flip-flops. It all appears to be an increasingly desperate attempt at maintaining global perception of the USA as the one and only superpower, that gets to create the rules and smash down anybody who objects. Just all show to remain in the limelight. If that's working at all, it's only with the gullible. Most folks with critical thinking skills see that it's all theatre, that soon will burn itself out. It's inevitable.
Perhaps the chaos is not all theatre that will soon burn itself out.

Perhaps it's a necessary stage in weakening and fracturing the control grid that has gripped humanity for millenia.

Which it is depends on the real intent and capacity of the chaos provokers.

mountain_jim
17th March 2025, 12:06
I was waiting for him to say something about this..

Of course, now the Presidency and parts of the Judiciary are already in conflict until the Supreme Court rules on various things.

https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1901501176212079089

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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga

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“The “Pardons” that Sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs, and many others, are hereby declared VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT, because of the fact that they were done by Autopen. In other words, Joe Biden did not sign them but, more importantly, he did not know anything about them! The necessary Pardoning Documents were not explained to, or approved by, Biden. He knew nothing about them, and the people that did may have committed a crime. Therefore, those on the Unselect Committee, who destroyed and deleted ALL evidence obtained during their two year Witch Hunt of me, and many other innocent people, should fully understand that they are subject to investigation at the highest level. The fact is, they were probably responsible for the Documents that were signed on their behalf without the knowledge or consent of the Worst President in the History of our Country, Crooked Joe Biden!”


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🚨President Trump on Biden’s autopen:

“We had an autopen for a president... Did he authorize it or was this somebody in an office, maybe a Radical Left lunatic just signing whatever he wants?... To sign pardons with an autopen is disgraceful.

norman
17th March 2025, 13:12
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https://sarahwestall.substack.com/p/is-trump-bringing-the-us-through



On Friday Trump signed an executive order (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/continuing-the-reduction-of-the-federal-bureaucracy/) which names 7 federal agencies for elimination: the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, United States Agency for Global Media, Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, Institute of Museum and Library Services, United States Interagency Council on Homelessness, Community Development Financial Institutions Fund, and the Minority Business Development Agency.

On top of that, an eighth agency was name for elimination, the Arctic Research Commission, in the White House fact sheet (https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-continues-the-reduction-of-the-federal-bureaucracy/).

News like this has become almost common place and is very eerily familiar to what would be occurring if the business of the United States was being shored up during a bankruptcy.

To be fair, its what is needed whether the country is in bankruptcy or not. Today Kari Lake, who Trump recently appointed to lead the US Agency for Global Media has been posting today on X more examples of crime and corruption in another federal agency:

https://x.com/KariLake/status/1900652489063481500
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As someone who has gone through business reorganizations during bankruptcy, it does seem that this is what is going on here. But it is also what is needed. If the United States was not able to print money out of thin air this process would have been done decades ago.

Now that the dollar is faltering and an economic reset is in the air, the powers that be have decided its time for the United States to get its house in order. If this process continues, as I assume it will, we are in for many more surprises.

Sarah Westall

Rizotto
17th March 2025, 20:46
Looks more like the Trump regime's main intention is to keep on with chaotic announcements and flip-flops. It all appears to be an increasingly desperate attempt at maintaining global perception of the USA as the one and only superpower, that gets to create the rules and smash down anybody who objects. Just all show to remain in the limelight. If that's working at all, it's only with the gullible. Most folks with critical thinking skills see that it's all theatre, that soon will burn itself out. It's inevitable.
Perhaps the chaos is not all theatre that will soon burn itself out.

Perhaps it's a necessary stage in weakening and fracturing the control grid that has gripped humanity for millenia.

Which it is depends on the real intent and capacity of the chaos provokers.

Please clarify your "depends on the real intent and capacity of the chaos provokers." If you are referring to '5D' chess moves, I would argue that the world is way more complex than a chess board (even 5 of them). We're talking about major wars with the most devastating weapons, including nukes, and major die-off of populations on both sides of the planet.

Lies cannot be fought with more lies. How about shining a light on the 'thousand years old grid that controls humanity'. Or at least, stop going along with its deadly games, which have lately flared up again in the middle east, with USA's absurd attacks on Yemen.

Below is Scott Ritter's clear analysis of the problem, and straightforward solution. Must Watch!

Scott Ritter : How Foolish to Attack The Houthis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn3Bm1SgbmM

SilentFeathers
17th March 2025, 21:49
Well, we'll see tomorrow if this actually happens.
With Tulsi involved it is more likely to happen, I have more faith in Tulsi than I do Pam Bondi. (I'll believe it when I see it)
Perhaps Tulsi should take all the Epstein files from Bondi and release them too.


BREAKING: President Trump announces that 80,000 documents on the assassination of JFK will be released TOMORROW, as organized and coordinated by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard. President Trump has asked that the files not be redacted.

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1901736473012887567

ThePythonicCow
17th March 2025, 21:58
Please clarify your "depends on the real intent and capacity of the chaos provokers." If you are referring to '5D' chess moves, I would argue that the world is way more complex than a chess board (even 5 of them). We're talking about major wars with the most devastating weapons, including nukes, and major die-off of populations on both sides of the planet.

Lies cannot be fought with more lies. How about shining a light on the 'thousand years old grid that controls humanity'. Or at least, stop going along with its deadly games, which have lately flared up again in the middle east, with USA's absurd attacks on Yemen.


Perhaps neither of us yet know the "real intent and capacity of the chaos provokers."

Perhaps metaphors (e.g. referring to chess) are usually way less complicated than the reality they refer to. Is not that why we use them?

Perhaps a broad shotgun blast (no specific target) about lies and more lies does not advance understanding in this discussion.

Perhaps I doubt that this discussion between us provides a sufficiently deep and rich soil of thought to support a useful consideration of the 'thousand years old grid that controls humanity', which is not a simple, easy or non-controversial subject.

Perhaps one can only rule out any solution involving some death if one can show that there is some successful solution available that doesn't involve death.

Perhaps yet another shotgun blast about "going along with their deadly games" once again does not advance understanding in this discussion.

Perhaps Trump has a different objective in attacking the Houthis. Perhaps he is not trying to defeat them, but rather just offering a deal: Don't shoot our ships and we won't shoot your ship shooters.

Perhaps I am wasting my time making this response.

onawah
18th March 2025, 00:14
I think I would be about as suprised if that info on JFK actually came out tomorrow as I would be if the Internet goes down tomorrow.
Unless, of course, Trump's request that the info not be redacted is not honored, which I think is far more likely.
Or have I just become too cynical?

SilentFeathers
18th March 2025, 00:31
I think I would be about as suprised if that info on JFK actually came out tomorrow as I would be if the Internet goes down tomorrow.
Unless, of course, Trump's request that the info not be redacted is not honored, which I think is far more likely.
Or have I just become too cynical?

You're not being cynical. I'm not expecting anything, I'll only believe it when I see it.

If the JFK files ain't released for some reason tomorrow, I don't think Tulsi Gabbard will be such a push over and lie to the American people like Pam Bondi did with the Epstein files.

Tulsi will likely tell it like it is.

Yes these JFK files are important, but what's more important is the Epstein files and also the truth being covered up about the assassination attempt in Butler, PA.

Rizotto
18th March 2025, 09:03
Please clarify your "depends on the real intent and capacity of the chaos provokers." If you are referring to '5D' chess moves, I would argue that the world is way more complex than a chess board (even 5 of them). We're talking about major wars with the most devastating weapons, including nukes, and major die-off of populations on both sides of the planet.

Lies cannot be fought with more lies. How about shining a light on the 'thousand years old grid that controls humanity'. Or at least, stop going along with its deadly games, which have lately flared up again in the middle east, with USA's absurd attacks on Yemen.


Perhaps neither of us yet know the "real intent and capacity of the chaos provokers."

Perhaps metaphors (e.g. referring to chess) are usually way less complicated than the reality they refer to. Is not that why we use them?

Perhaps a broad shotgun blast (no specific target) about lies and more lies does not advance understanding in this discussion.

Perhaps I doubt that this discussion between us provides a sufficiently deep and rich soil of thought to support a useful consideration of the 'thousand years old grid that controls humanity', which is not a simple, easy or non-controversial subject.

Perhaps one can only rule out any solution involving some death if one can show that there is some successful solution available that doesn't involve death.

Perhaps yet another shotgun blast about "going along with their deadly games" once again does not advance understanding in this discussion.

Perhaps Trump has a different objective in attacking the Houthis. Perhaps he is not trying to defeat them, but rather just offering a deal: Don't shoot our ships and we won't shoot your ship shooters.

Perhaps I am wasting my time making this response.

Yes, there is a solution that does not involve death. USA could discontinue its uncritical support of Israel and stop the shipments of weapons now, as Israel is once again violating human rights of Palestinians and blocking the delivery of aid. That's why the Houtis are once again blocking Israeli ships in the Red Sea.

All that the Houtis are asking is this: resume the delivery of desperately needed aid supplies to a starving civilian population, and stop the genocide.

Instead, Trump is now whipping up WW3 not only with bombing Yemen, but also threatening Iran.

War With Iran: Trump Marches To Israel's Drumbeat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhfkNc7tUak

BMJ
18th March 2025, 23:02
About The Border

The Biden administration’s goal was to maximize the flow of illegals into the USA to ensure permanent one-party rule.

This will become increasingly obvious as time goes by.


Trump closing our border in 48 hours is not being discussed enough…

We are now on pace for the fewest illegal border crossings in 50+ years, immediately after 4 years of record breaking illegal immigration.

Biden could have done this at any time.
Where is the accountability?


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bojancan
18th March 2025, 23:34
Yes, I know that this video will not be welcomed to pro Trumpsters here... because is MTN... it's from today's Judge Roberts statements onTrump's statement on X...


MeidasTouch
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Chief Justice ISSUES SHOCK STATEMENT on Trump
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