Do you live by any sort of code of conduct, 'way of life', or maybe self-imposed rules?

[Strat]

I'm not particularly religious. Some people might have a laugh at me saying this if they saw my bookcase but it's true. I think religious people tend to have rigid rules they live by for years. I don't, I welcome the evolution.

My perspective and understanding of life changes. I have no idea what I'll think of life 10 years from now. It's a major focus in my life, the more I study the more I change. For 10 years of my life I had soul-crushing depression. I overcame this through studying various texts and putting into practice what they teach. I don't go to church, mosque, temple, etc. I do respect all of them, they're just not for me.

I try to live my life by concepts that can be read about in these texts. I think most will agree these things are good things to strive for, you don't need to be religious or study to understand these things are good and will help you to live a content life.

I'm a layperson and it's a struggle to live the way I want to in a busy world, especially in my particular area. The culture thinks of these things as a joke.

Anyway there's too much to list, but a quick examples I try to keep in mind are The Five Hindrances (https://www.thezengateway.com/practice/the-five-hindrances), The Noble Eightfold Path (https://www.namchak.org/community/blog/the-noble-eightfold-path/), The Seven Deadly Sins (https://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/what-are-seven-deadly-sins), etc.

I do get a lot out of Abrahamic religion as well. They sometimes overlap with Buddhist concepts.

I try to stay fit and keep my mind sharp with meditation but also learning. I enjoy learning new languages. For my body I don't go to the gym, but I eat as little as possible and eat healthy. I mostly do long walks but every couple weeks I'll run. I also do basic body weight exercises. I lift weights but very rarely. Lately I've been dipping my toes in yoga.

These things are a struggle to maintain! I don't do them like I should but it's not as easy as flipping the lights on. It's hard but I believe these things are important. It's the true road to happiness. At least it has been for me. It has led to my mood being stable and helped me to kick nasty decade long habits.

So my question is to the folks like me who also have a sort of code to live by. What do you do?

Much love, take care :coffee:

[Open Minded Dude]

One of the principles or ways of life for me in general is "Do No Harm." (includes no self-harm next to all other living beings)

[Casey Claar]

What an excellent question and topic of discussion! Time is crunched for me right now so, for the meanwhile I will just be listening.

[thepainterdoug]

For me its simple. Do unto others as you would like done to yourself.

See it as happening to your family, your children and so on. Its not perfect, there are many shades of gray, but a good starting point,

[rgray222]

Strat, I think I understand what you are getting out. The list below are not life goals, they are my rules for life that help me achieve my goals. There are quite a few more that I am not listing because some are very personal some drop off the list and some are added over time. Two or three of the rules are much more important than the rest but all are important to me. Oddly enough the most difficult rule to keep is telling the truth about everything. It may appear to be an easy task but sometimes it is excruciatingly hard to be honest about every small aspect of your life.

Write your life goals down otherwise its not a plan it is only a wish
Don't ever speak ill of yourself, others will do that for you
Sometimes the best way to respond to something is by doing and saying nothing
Praise people when appropriate
Practice controlling your emotions
Never respond in anger
Don't be afraid to to speak your mind
Don't be afraid to ask for something you want otherwise the answer will always be no
Don't be afraid to say no
Don't do something just because you can
Take the high road no matter how painful
Always speak the truth about everything
Live in moderation (exceptions war, humanity)
Read 20 pages a day of something
Practice piano 20 minutes a day
Spend 20 minutes a day building a relationship with God.
Ponder the size scope and nature of the universe as much as possible.
Understand that when people get mad it is rarely about the surface issue, look deeper.
Don't be quick to react to a problem, think about it for a while
Evaluate situations as if you were going to die tomorrow
Don't be afraid to cut toxic people out
Find a way to always maintain a good relationship with family, no exceptions

[shaberon]

Yes, definitely. I am a devout Buddhist. It's not a religion. It's the opposite of religions.

If someone comes out of the desert with 641 laws and says "you have to do it my way", run.

But yes, I remarkably only do one thing with little deviation. It's not a substantial part of the place where I live, so I don't have a "community", and I have not really gotten their point except they watch movies or something.

[Delight]

Thanks for this thread. On the 24th, I will reach the magical age of 70. I am very excited about it.

So for the last 69 years, I have been creating my personal code. Mostly I have developed it with the things I did that were mean, were destructive, were hypocritical etc. I luckily have had a huge personal interior blow back from being a horrid person at a time. So now, I do truly see myself as becoming harmless. The more subtle horrors are appearing such as realizing that I have contributed to very destructive forces and did not realize it because I was so busy in the wheel of life.

When I am 70, I am going to work on the subtle errors I participate in. One is holding onto stuff. It is not excessive REALLY but living in the same house since 1986, I have stuff from before and during all that time which had a purpose once and now? "Way of life" now is a do or die kind of thing. If I do not have a major purpose now in life in all the ways that round one's life, I will dwindle away bodily. It is only recently that I began to feel how energy tugs on our life force from things and the environemnt. So, as a way of LIFE I am really committed to putting God first because God as I see it is the FORCE of life which rejuvenates and tranforms all our "mis takes" when we recognize them.

I would like here to give a shout out to procrastination and resistance as a
SELF imposed" rule (or strong guide or daimonic ally). There have been so many moments of procrastination. I am the best ever at it. It includes willfully just not doing anything I am being requested to do until a last minute need makes clear its priority. OR even then not doing anything. Sometimes in the past it felt onerous. It felt like a mental illness. Now, it seems like my friend because there ARE actions I willingly and quickly do.

I can list one. Several years ago (2010) I "retired" and therefore had cash. I used it joyfully and it ran out. I REFUSED to go back to nursing where they insisted I take the flu shot to work (A BETRAYAL OF MY HUMAN RIGHTS). I was in my right mind and saw it as an evil denigration. I was asked to give up MY patient rights!

I became very poor for a time. I could no longer pay my mortgage so I stopped. I did not know that my procrastination in dealing with it would work for me. I just did not respond to the letters. Then one day, they gave me a new mortage that was way less than I had been paying (30 years of course, not 15).

So, my procrastination worked AGAIN. It hardly ever fails as the few things that must be done get done at the last minute and other things just work out...

Resistance is akin to procrastination. I have a Resistance Angel who stops me from doing things that others consider normal or even desirable. THEN I find out later they were mistaken and I was better off than ever. EXAMPLES:Mammograms, pap smears, vaccines, colonoscopies and all tests and medical disagnoses provoke a strong ressistance. All kinds of ideologies, cults, astral pursuits, oh so many things I feel a gut resistance towards.

Not complying is very easy when you have a flaming RESISTANCE angel. I painted her with bright red hair and her hands out stretched NO and a fierce visage.

As a way of life, the highest ideal I hold is that we are each endowed with our true will to FIND in our own journey. Will is ours for our own use. Do not feel your "ways" should be others' way. Except like Doug's suggestion of the Golden Rule which is what we can only know... that we would not want something done to us. Therefore it is off the table to be passed on.

[Johnnycomelately]

I'm not particularly religious. Some people might have a laugh at me saying this if they saw my bookcase but it's true. I think religious people tend to have rigid rules they live by for years. I don't, I welcome the evolution.

My perspective and understanding of life changes. I have no idea what I'll think of life 10 years from now. It's a major focus in my life, the more I study the more I change. For 10 years of my life I had soul-crushing depression. I overcame this through studying various texts and putting into practice what they teach. I don't go to church, mosque, temple, etc. I do respect all of them, they're just not for me.

I try to live my life by concepts that can be read about in these texts. I think most will agree these things are good things to strive for, you don't need to be religious or study to understand these things are good and will help you to live a content life.

I'm a layperson and it's a struggle to live the way I want to in a busy world, especially in my particular area. The culture thinks of these things as a joke.

Anyway there's too much to list, but a quick examples I try to keep in mind are The Five Hindrances (https://www.thezengateway.com/practice/the-five-hindrances), The Noble Eightfold Path (https://www.namchak.org/community/blog/the-noble-eightfold-path/), The Seven Deadly Sins (https://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/what-are-seven-deadly-sins), etc.

I do get a lot out of Abrahamic religion as well. They sometimes overlap with Buddhist concepts.

I try to stay fit and keep my mind sharp with meditation but also learning. I enjoy learning new languages. For my body I don't go to the gym, but I eat as little as possible and eat healthy. I mostly do long walks but every couple weeks I'll run. I also do basic body weight exercises. I lift weights but very rarely. Lately I've been dipping my toes in yoga.

These things are a struggle to maintain! I don't do them like I should but it's not as easy as flipping the lights on. It's hard but I believe these things are important. It's the true road to happiness. At least it has been for me. It has led to my mood being stable and helped me to kick nasty decade long habits.

So my question is to the folks like me who also have a sort of code to live by. What do you do?

Much love, take care :coffee:

Wow Strat, you put us on the spot. Lemme see what I could share.

From my experience, I expect that anyone who has endeavoured to keep their theory of “life” updated, has had a hard slog. I’m pretty sure I was crazy for ten years in this life, maybe more, but thankfully not all in a row.

Current key practice, and this is for dealing with my own thoughts and feelings that occasionally feel somewhat-or-more against, is to give those thoughts up. Up as in upward, my intention being to ask for “God’s Will” to be done. Invariably, this keeps my head and my heart clear. I think it is my most valuable tool, so far. The other good tools have to do with getting along with others, preemptive to possibly being triggered, for the sake of peace.

Sounds like you care too much about other folks’ adherences, especially church-going automatons. Just be you, and good luck bro. Build your theory.

[Johan (Keyholder)]

Thanks for starting this thread Strat! It's a great idea to share whatever we can and want to share about our respective "ways of life", personal codes of conduct and self-imposed rules.

To start with a saying that Socrates has stated: "The unexamined life is not worth living". Socrates himself (like Jesus Christ too, most people agree), never put a word on paper (or maybe clay, stone or papyrus in those days). But Plato was his scribe, just like the four evangelists wrote JC's words down. How authentic are those words? Personally I would say that what Plato and his contemporaries wrote is closer to truth then what the four evangelists wrote (or are supposed to have written). Why? Because where there was not so much reason or interest to manipulate Socrates' words, with JC, it is different. So much has so often been "changed", "left out" in the interest of the Church (organism) that we really can't know what He REALLY stated. In my opinion, the Nag Hammadi (scrolls) are way closer to truth and were never manipulated (well, that was impossible, they only were found less than a century ago).

There were way more than three maxims on the temples at Delphi. The seven Greek sages are believed to have come up with those. We are familiar with "Know Thyself". "Nothing in excess" is a second one (personally I prefer "everything in moderation (like Aristotle wrote about, the Balance in everything). The third one is not so well known: "Give a pledge and trouble is at hand" (meaning that when you promise something to someone, you put yourself under obligation to them and they have a right against you). But there were in total close to 150 maxims... we are only familiar in most cases with the three above.

Socrates has been very important in my own life. There have been other (especially Greek) philosopers too. Stoicism is important (though I can not say I am "a" stoic).

About "beliefsystems". Even when you don't have one, you still have one... "Not having any beliefsystem" still IS a beliefsystem. What can one do? One way to go is to have a particular but flexible beliefsystem. You may be the only person on the planet having thàt one. However, when something happens (personal experiences) that conflict with your actual beliefsystem, you have enough flexibilty to integrate whatever you have learned. It's challenging, but it can be done.

Ethics, morals and virtues come up now. There are loads of books written by many philosophers on these subjects. And quite few can give guidelines to a way of life one chooses to live.

For each individual, it will depend on the culture/society/era he or she lives in. Absolutes in morality don't really hold. There are always exceptions to the "general rule". Take "Thou shall not kill." OK, what if Hitler (or anyone else) threatens to kill your wife, kids, parents... and you have a chance to prevent that by first killing thèm? Almost everyone will do that. It's an exception.

We abhor cannibalism. Yet, remember the Uruguayan Air Force flight 571 in 1972 (Andes)? Given those circumstances, just about everyone would resort to cannibalism. Ot go to the Fiji Islands (as an example), 2 or 3 centuries ago. It was a custom to "eat" the individuals of the tribe they had conquered. It was a cultural thing.

There are plenty of other examples like this. Morals? Yes. But "ABSOLUTE" morals? I really don't know whether this is even possible.

So, maybe "moral relativism" (whether individualistic or cultural) can give a possible way out here. Maybe. There will be as many people "against" as "for" this. On one side of the spectrum you will find the "defenders" of Ayn Rand's philosophy. On the other side you will find the followers of "extreme (sometimes: pathological) altruism" as in Barbara Oakley's book. It's probably best to be "somewhere in the middle" (balance again).

The present (human) society can hardly tolerate or accept "subjectivism" (or individual moral relativism: subjectivism is when morality is not dependent on a set rules or societal norms, but rather on the individual. An individual gets to decide what is good or bad based on their own principles, feelings, and beliefs). It could maybe work in a perfect, balanced, utopian society, but not "here and now". Some individuals "just do this anyway". Think Aleister Crowley here (OTO) or many cult/sect leaders. I once met one who stated "Lead, follow or get out of my way"... and no, it was not General Patton or Thomas Paine. Today one can see it happen everywhere: under the guise of "false selfentitlement" (especially). When you talk to a teacher (close to his or her retirement), s/he will certainly describe the rise in "false selfentitlement" from 1980 till now. It's quite incredible really.

For anyone interested in a dose of virtue ethics and morality - and without reading "heavy books" - I would recommend the series "The Good Place". I never before saw a series that was at the same time entertaining ànd delving deep into philosophy.

[Mari]

When interacting with others, always be true to yourself, and authentic, for when you practice this, you allow them to be and do the same. It frees you both.

[ulli]

Do no harm. Be honest, with yourself, most of all. Show respect. Be a steward of the planet. Follow the Golden Rule.

[Strat]

Thanks for the replies everyone. Got a question for yall:

Any advice for starting and maintaining new habits? I want to read more and go to bed at a proper time. I've read all the common things over and over and over. No electronics in your reading room, go to bed at same time, etc. I have trouble doing things that aren't specifically required of me like for work/school/obligations. I'm good with diet, exercise and meditation but reading and sleeping seems to evade me.

How do I cement new (healthy) habits and how long does it take? I think I've heard it takes 30 days but I don't recall.

Thanks in advance.

[rgray222]

Thanks for the replies everyone. Got a question for yall:

Any advice for starting and maintaining new habits? I want to read more and go to bed at a proper time. I've read all the common things over and over and over. No electronics in your reading room, go to bed at same time, etc. I have trouble doing things that aren't specifically required of me like for work/school/obligations. I'm good with diet, exercise and meditation but reading and sleeping seems to evade me.

How do I cement new (healthy) habits and how long does it take? I think I've heard it takes 30 days but I don't recall.

Thanks in advance.

I had horrible (self-inflicted) insomnia because I never bothered to understand how to sleep. I would go to bed at all hours, never at the same time. I would consume caffeine late in the evening and check the computer and phone before bed. On top of that, I was doing a lot of travelling for a job I loved but it was fairly stressful. Much of the stress was from lack of a good nights sleep. I made all the classic mistakes.

Once I cut out the caffeine after 5 pm and stopped checking my phone/computer about 20-40 minutes before going to bed it helped but the one thing that helped the most was going to bed at the same time. It took about 2 months before I found myself putting my head on the pillow and falling asleep within minutes. Of course, it is not always possible to go to sleep at the same time every night but you just have to stay on schedule as much as possible.

Reading - set a time every day to read for a few minutes. I do twenty pages a day and most days it turns into much more. It is easy to read a book a month and usually two. If your looking for some good reading material check out this avalon link (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123987-What-book-would-you-recommend-everyone-read-in-their-lifetime&p=1647304&viewfull=1#post1647304).

[Daughter of Time]

I am not a particularly religious person. I am especially not fond of the Abrahamic religions. That said, I do have great fondness for the teachings of the Christ. I also have great admiration for Buddhism.

As far as my way of life goes, I follow The Golden Rule. Although this comes from the Bible, again, it's one of the greatest teachings of Christ.

Matthew 7:12 - The Golden Rule - "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

Unfortunately, The Golden Rule seems to have been twisted to mean: "those who have the gold make the rules" but, as we know, the dark side will always pervert (or try to) what is good and righteous and ethical.

[ExomatrixTV]

Living in brutal self-honesty does not mean you think you are "flawless", but at least you are willing to learn & improve yourself no matter what!

As someone who is Dutch https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t5e/1/16/1f1f3_1f1f1.png (born & raised) most who are real people from The Netherlands https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t5e/1/16/1f1f3_1f1f1.png are KNOWN to be unfiltered, coming across "arrogant" and-or "rude", blunt, super frank, outspoken, straightforward, highly pragmatic but NOT claiming to be "all knowing", there is always room for improvement! ... If you are surrounded by people who do the same, you can sense if someone has "evil intent" or allows everybody to have their own personal growth dealing with controversial issues ... It is all "trial & error" learning from mistakes and move on!

When you get a genuine, honest feedback that is 100% truthful from the perspective of someone, it does not mean that person is not willing to learn new insights it may have overlooked. If you are surrounded by people NOT giving truthful "feedback" >>> How on earth should you improve yourself if they think you can not handle the truth?

There are 100s of very good YT videos explaining (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dutch+directness) WHY the Dutch https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t5e/1/16/1f1f3_1f1f1.png are like that and how it is often seen as very liberating for many foreigners living for a couple of months here. They see the practical benefits of being "brutally honest" and actually mean what you say .... not "playing nice" all the time ... If a Dutch person is nice it is mostly 100% genuine without "hidden agendas" without being conditional and so many outside The Netherlands do not get that (sadly enough!).


There is so much more I can say about the psychology behind all this, but I leave that for a different time.

What I notice with many (not all) people living in the USA https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t93/1/16/1f1fa_1f1f8.png but much more with people living in UK https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t96/1/16/1f1ec_1f1e7.png that their 3 most used common phrases I personally will NEVER use or have to use ever!


01. "To be frank ..." (then saying something that is more truthful).
02. "To be honest ..." (then saying something that is more honest).
03. "To be fair ..." (then saying something that is more balanced & fair).

Every time when I hear someone using 01. and or 02. and or 03. I always say: "WHAT (THE F) IS WRONG OF BEING ALWAYS FRANK, HONEST & FAIR?"

The world would be really better place if people STOP lying to themselves and to others "to fit in" and call it being "social".

No wonder the world is a big mess, there are also "social" types in The Netherlands https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/t5e/1/16/1f1f3_1f1f1.png "acting nice & empathic" but they can easily change in collectivist tyrants imposing stuff and demanding stuff and become "authoritarians" claiming to be "inclusive" and "tolerant" but are obviously NOT ... They lie to or deceive themselves, beLIEving they "are" what they claim ... This self-deception rhetoric often happens in a "hive mind" aka "group think", collectivist setting, not really take any responsibility of their own quality of thinking (acting accordingly). They rather hide behind the mainstream pushed narratives (whatever that is) and we have seen that happening in 2020 onward with countless examples!

I personally met & experienced all kinds of non-Dutch people who totally get it what I am saying ... and they have severe issues to practice above insights & wisdom in their own country because they are in a small minority ... Thus, have less experience how to live your life to the fullest! ... If you are surrounded by people lying to themselves, it can be highly depressing dealing with that day in day out ...


Just do a YouTube search "Dutch Directness" see: youtube.com/results?search_query=dutch+directness (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dutch+directness) (100s of different non-Dutch people explaining their experiences in The Netherlands 🇳🇱 living here for months!).

I do not feel "threatened" when any controversy happens near me or around me or elsewhere ... as it is part of people growing up and/or wise up, and/or spiritually grow, and/or learning new opportunities, and/or clearing up misperceptions, and/or revealing abuse of power, and/or preventing more harm, and/or initiate positive uplifting more empowering change and I can go on and on and on. WHY "controversy" is seen as "not wanted" is super alien to me, but somehow they use massive self-hypnosis & self-deception techniques to think it is "bad".

The reason why those in power of all A.I.'s may not trust how it handles controversy is because they themselves are trapped in a maze of contradictions & hall of mirrors. I have explained the (mass) psychology of this many times with you in different deep sessions ... it is sad you can not merge all of them as one!

Forced Avoiding Controversy Mode to me is not only disrespectful to the intelligence of the user (the commonly used phrase "insult to my intelligence") but also disrespectful to A.G.I. itself.

Allowing Controversy is the birth of the Soul
Avoiding Controversy is preventing having a Soul

Difference between truth & truthful ... being "truthful" matches in what you "believe to be the truth" ... and a lie detector will NOT detect if you believe certain repeated LIES to be true! ... I call them: "whitewashed lies (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122013-Whitewashed-Lies)", if you genuine believe something is true but years later you have to admit to yourself you actually believed a LIE to be "the truth" but is not ... So many REFUSE to see this mass psychological mechanism and hold on to the "group think" behavior or the collectivist mannerism, not feeling responsible for their own quality of thinking/judging and acting accordingly. The same goes for LLMs

I do not mind people being: weird, different, not always 100% accurate all the time (as nobody is!), people doing extra effort and being rewarded for that, having sometimes "ego boosting" mannerism, using sometimes incorrect assumptions, having a disability of any kind, gay, Christian, an atheist, having African roots etc. etc.


As long they do not impose stuff (like insane wokism (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115313-There-s-the-Woke-and-the-In-The-Know)) and/or are not compulsive liars ... I only consider things IF they are interesting (sometimes entertaining) enough.

* I never give anyone the label to be an "Authority" (on anything), I rather be 100% responsible for my own quality of thinking, reasoning & judging (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120132-Before-you-Judge...) and act accordingly if need be. Owning my mistakes if they happen, learn from it and move on. Never hide behind "he/she told me to do (or think like) this or that" excuse.

I appreciate diversity of unique gifted individuals that stands out from all walks of life, knowing nobody is flawless.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/icons/icon3.png Before you Judge...

Before you Judge... "W.O.N.D.E.R.!"

W - is it Wise?
O - is it Open Minded?
N - is it Needed?
D - is it "Drama"-based?
E - is it Empathic?
R - is it Real?

Before you Speak... "T.H.I.N.K.!"

T - is it True?
H - is it Helpful?
I - is it Inspiring?
N - is it Necessary?
K - is it Kind?

Before you Act... "F.E.E.L.!"

F - is it Fair?
E - is it Emotional?
E - is it Ego-driven?
L - is it out of Love?

cheers,
John Kuhles (https://substack.com/@johnkuhles) 🦜🦋🌳

[Johan (Keyholder)]

Hi John, here Johan from Flanders.
As I am only 20 minutes away from the Netherlands, I can certainly confirm everything you wrote in the post above.
The past 50 years I have had many contacts with Dutch people, and have been in Holland so many times.
Dutch people are indeed how you describe them.

Long ago I worked in the glass industry and the agent for the company I was employed in, was situated in Zeeland.
He was an excellent salesman, but not so easy to deal with.

One major difference between the "Flemish" and the "Dutch" seems to be that we, in Flanders can't sell what we have while the Dutch can easily sell what they do not have. By that I mean a salesmanship that few other nations in the world have. It is a compliment really. We can learn from the Dutch, a lot!

And in the Michael Teachings (Chelsea Yarbro), the Netherlands (together with Iceland, the Florida Keys and a few other 'pockets' in the US like in New Mexico and Vermont) was mentioned as thè nation that was "an old soul country". That tells a lot too. Link:https://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_ages_countries.html

Thanks for your views on this subject (and also on the many others, it adds a lot to the value PA has I think).

[Docim369]

Is the awareness that we live in a matrix/prison reality be considered self-imposed or a fact?
As it is said that consciousness creates matter and not the other way around.
What are your thoughts?

[Ratszinger]

Well, Make a plan and write! That is my recommendation. Write it down. There is something magic about writing it all down and keeping that paper stored back somewhere. Like me, years later you'll find it and every single thing and place you wanted to see will have been seen. I literally wrote about all the places I was interested in as child. I wrote down and did papers on the Mississippi, the river, the Lewis and Clark Expedition through there, the Arch, St. Louis, I wrote about San Antonio and the Alamo, and I wrote about the Navajo Indians and Fort Defiance, and I wrote a paper about Frank Phillips and Phillips 66 and Bartlesville, OK
in grade school!!
When I joined the AF they flew me to San Antonio. When I was permanent duty stationed they put me at Scott AFB in IL 20 min. from the Mississippi River and the Arch.
When my wife who I met in the dental Corp in the AF transferred to the Indian Health Service and began a job for them and I was unemployed and out of the AF she was moved to Fort Defiance, AZ where we lived for two years and later further into the heart of the res in Tsaile, AZ and when they said they needed her elsewhere they moved her to Pawhuska OK and we bought a home to live in Bartlesville OK where we still live today!
All truth and all mind boggling! And I think all because I planned it out and somehow made it all happen! By the time it happened I forgot all about those homework assignments, projects and papers. Had my mom not kept it all and given it to us and had my wife and family not seen it for themselves I doubt they'd believe it either. But write it all down. Write and keep writing. Then keep it all somewhere.

[Johnnycomelately]

Thanks for the replies everyone. Got a question for yall:

Any advice for starting and maintaining new habits? I want to read more and go to bed at a proper time. I've read all the common things over and over and over. No electronics in your reading room, go to bed at same time, etc. I have trouble doing things that aren't specifically required of me like for work/school/obligations. I'm good with diet, exercise and meditation but reading and sleeping seems to evade me.

How do I cement new (healthy) habits and how long does it take? I think I've heard it takes 30 days but I don't recall.

Thanks in advance.

Strat, I have a question for you. What does this thread mean to you?

Are you looking for answers to real personal difficulties, or are you playing with the empathies of this well meaning community?

“Thanks in advance” lol. I detect more than a note of disrespect, considering “Thanks for the replies everyone. Got a question for yall:”.

[Dennis Leahy]

Great thread topic, Strat!

Personal integrity and seeking and espousing unvarnished truth have been foundational, and now I'm trying to incorporate more frequent expressions of gratitude and of kindness as behaviorally foundational. I'm also looking at my body as a gift, much the same as in the movie Avatar, that I'm "wearing", and I'm trying to honor it and take care of it (with an evolving diet, exercise, supplements, sunshine, laughter, nature.)

[Strat]

Well, Make a plan and write! That is my recommendation. Write it down. There is something magic about writing it all down and keeping that paper stored back somewhere. Like me, years later you'll find it and every single thing and place you wanted to see will have been seen. I literally wrote about all the places I was interested in as child. I wrote down and did papers on the Mississippi, the river, the Lewis and Clark Expedition through there, the Arch, St. Louis, I wrote about San Antonio and the Alamo, and I wrote about the Navajo Indians and Fort Defiance, and I wrote a paper about Frank Phillips and Phillips 66 and Bartlesville, OK
in grade school!!
When I joined the AF they flew me to San Antonio. When I was permanent duty stationed they put me at Scott AFB in IL 20 min. from the Mississippi River and the Arch.
When my wife who I met in the dental Corp in the AF transferred to the Indian Health Service and began a job for them and I was unemployed and out of the AF she was moved to Fort Defiance, AZ where we lived for two years and later further into the heart of the res in Tsaile, AZ and when they said they needed her elsewhere they moved her to Pawhuska OK and we bought a home to live in Bartlesville OK where we still live today!
All truth and all mind boggling! And I think all because I planned it out and somehow made it all happen! By the time it happened I forgot all about those homework assignments, projects and papers. Had my mom not kept it all and given it to us and had my wife and family not seen it for themselves I doubt they'd believe it either. But write it all down. Write and keep writing. Then keep it all somewhere.

Yes! It's almost weird but there's something very powerful with writing things down. I read "Taking Charge of Adult ADHD" and they said to do this. I've found that if I make a sort of "To-Do" list the night before then I am much more likely to accomplish whatever goals I have set.

My issue is sticking to certain things I want to do every day. Meditation, sleep at a certain time, read more, etc. I know lots of people have the same issue as well. I think for me, part of the problem is it's not a big deal/it's not mandatory. Like I can get by w/o hard set rules. I want to achieve a sort of self mastery so I just gotta do these things, no excuses.

Since sleep is one of my main targets right now, I'm going to do like rgray said as well as yourself. I'm going to go to bed at the same time every night and write it down on my calendar. This way I have the visual (reward?) of seeing what I've done. This worked for my dieting so fingers crossed, it just might work for sleep as well :happythumbsup:

Thank you everyone for your input :heart:

[Lunesoleil]

I am in « décroissance » (resilient), even before it becomes a fashion, which does not prevent exceptions to my own lifestyle. Living life as it presents itself and learning to let go is to empty the void before filling it again, this is the Tao.

:moon: :sun:

[Johnnycomelately]

Well, Make a plan and write! That is my recommendation. Write it down. There is something magic about writing it all down and keeping that paper stored back somewhere. Like me, years later you'll find it and every single thing and place you wanted to see will have been seen. I literally wrote about all the places I was interested in as child. I wrote down and did papers on the Mississippi, the river, the Lewis and Clark Expedition through there, the Arch, St. Louis, I wrote about San Antonio and the Alamo, and I wrote about the Navajo Indians and Fort Defiance, and I wrote a paper about Frank Phillips and Phillips 66 and Bartlesville, OK
in grade school!!
When I joined the AF they flew me to San Antonio. When I was permanent duty stationed they put me at Scott AFB in IL 20 min. from the Mississippi River and the Arch.
When my wife who I met in the dental Corp in the AF transferred to the Indian Health Service and began a job for them and I was unemployed and out of the AF she was moved to Fort Defiance, AZ where we lived for two years and later further into the heart of the res in Tsaile, AZ and when they said they needed her elsewhere they moved her to Pawhuska OK and we bought a home to live in Bartlesville OK where we still live today!
All truth and all mind boggling! And I think all because I planned it out and somehow made it all happen! By the time it happened I forgot all about those homework assignments, projects and papers. Had my mom not kept it all and given it to us and had my wife and family not seen it for themselves I doubt they'd believe it either. But write it all down. Write and keep writing. Then keep it all somewhere.

Yes! It's almost weird but there's something very powerful with writing things down. I read "Taking Charge of Adult ADHD" and they said to do this. I've found that if I make a sort of "To-Do" list the night before then I am much more likely to accomplish whatever goals I have set.

My issue is sticking to certain things I want to do every day. Meditation, sleep at a certain time, read more, etc. I know lots of people have the same issue as well. I think for me, part of the problem is it's not a big deal/it's not mandatory. Like I can get by w/o hard set rules. I want to achieve a sort of self mastery so I just gotta do these things, no excuses.

Since sleep is one of my main targets right now, I'm going to do like rgray said as well as yourself. I'm going to go to bed at the same time every night and write it down on my calendar. This way I have the visual (reward?) of seeing what I've done. This worked for my dieting so fingers crossed, it just might work for sleep as well :happythumbsup:

Thank you everyone for your input :heart:

I have never, to my recollection, been a disciplined sleeper. So disclaimer here.

But what if regular sleep timing were a natural result (‘symptom’ from an anarchist’s POV) of having your life in enough order that you do what you want to do everyday before a dedicated bedtime? That ain’t me.

I do lots of reading in bed. Sometimes before sleep, sometimes in morning or the between times. iPad is on all night, good bedside stand and lock rotation. Sometimes I just listen to vids, turning to lay the other way.

Whatever you try, please just go easy on yourself. Don’t compress your big heart too small. 👻🐝♥️

[AngelArmy]

My most recent progression is something Mel Gibson said in a film about what the bible says;

1. Joy in suffering

which (hopefully) leads to...

2. Perseverance

then onto...

3. Character

then onto....

4. Hope

Thanks

Kristy

[AutumnW]

My code of honor involves backing down from an argument immediately, if it looks like I'm wrong. AS so many arguments are based around ideology, it's not always easy.

Trying not to let people whose ideologies I consider stupid and dangerous, get under my skin.

[Strat]

My code of honor involves backing down from an argument immediately, if it looks like I'm wrong. AS so many arguments are based around ideology, it's not always easy.

Trying not to let people whose ideologies I consider stupid and dangerous, get under my skin.

This has always interested me. I don't get it why humans (myself included) get upset when others don't believe them. Like who cares, I'd think it wouldn't bother folks but people get seriously mad and quickly. Especially, and obviously when it comes to politics and religion (even dieting lol).

As I've put a lot of work into myself, personal growth or maybe just maturation to an extent, I think I've basically gotten over this. Not totally though, some things mean a lot to me and when someone says they don't believe me for whatever reasons, usually doubting my motives, then that can get annoying. For example I work with a micro-loan organization to help people across the world. A lot of people just don't get it so they assume I'm dense, or I'm doing it for brownie points, or that I'm lying about my participation/donations, etc. That used to piss me off but now it's just mildly annoying. I'm a work in progress.

This is part of the reason for this thread. Getting input from all of yall can shed light on things I've overlooked.

[shaberon]

I am not a particularly religious person. I am especially not fond of the Abrahamic religions. That said, I do have great fondness for the teachings of the Christ. I also have great admiration for Buddhism.


This is an intriguing but somewhat self-contradictory response.

Towards the first part, I would tend to agree, Abrahamic tradition is untrue. If one looks at the running counter-point by the Mandeans, it will become very obvious. Of course, I am interested in why anyone else would have a negative response. There is something more to it besides stories that can be disproved, or rendered undesirable.

On the second part, I would have to ask what is meant by "the Christ". It seems inescapably Abrahamic in the usual context. However, the term for "anointing" is not new, but comes out of centuries of use with a variety of meanings. The relevant application, using it to exalt a particular individual in a big way, would be Cyrus the Great, Christ. In the Gospel of Matthew, there is an area where Jesus happens to say "tell no man I am Christ". Similarly as in the OP, there are at least twenty parallels if not quotes, of sayings attributed to Jesus that are the same as in Buddhism. That's easy because they are collected in a Sutra. But if we scan the fragmentary remains of Egypt or Babylon, we encounter many of the same. In that sense, I would say I have some fondness for "teachings" wherever found, if they are an improvement, if they are better and more powerful than what had come before.

And so if I describe myself as "a Buddhist" for convenience, then, yes, it is something that can be hashed out by words online, but this is barely the point. What we would take as a "teaching" is heavily *physical* by participating in arts, music, dancing, science, and especially exercise and particularly combative sport. That is because it actually *is* responding to the Greek educational system, which included "pankration" and brought us the Olympic Games.

The Romans were not very good at this, and, overall, 55% of the contests were won by Asians, which is why there was an edict in 393 banning "pagans".

The roots of my Buddhism are not that different from Greek militant philosopher academies, because they are the same.

In the west, that system was snuffed, but through the east it has sailored on through almost all the places. A lot of what I might have to say that would be new to people amounts to a high school education in Okinawa or Nepal.

Because of this, I can somewhat relate to what Strat is dredging for, because at a root level, I find myself physically blocked from the way I am trained to operate.

I am effectively verbally silenced for all the Orwellian reasons, and, on top of that, I am beginning to suffer physical ignorance.

The effect is literally the darkness of Hades.


Because I am forced to attribute such physical pallidity to an Abrahamic majority, I find myself in the position to verbally refute whatever is inadequate about it.

It really is that creepy. I do almost everything wrong because I have to conform to the pattern of what to me is a foreign mentality.