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thepainterdoug
28th January 2025, 00:55
It takes a good deal for me to go to a doctor. I first turn over every stone, research and experiment , and eventually I figure it out. But so far , I cannot.

I have itching every night. No visible symptoms, no rash , nothing on the skin, its more right under the skin and primarily under arms, groin and back

It feels like microscopic bugs are crawling on me. It feels like a spider web falls over my face. So delicate, but it makes me scratch and rub my face. Then an itch on the scalp, then here than there.

Then under my arms, then groin, then on my back in a round robin that is disturbing my sleep.

Its well over a year this is happening and I have tried looking at supplements or the excess of , soy , sugar, nuts, peanut butter, candida, even popcorn I make with coconut oil on an almost nightly basis .
i have thought of wi fi as well.

I have recently changed laundry detergent to something free of chems in it.

I thought that solved it, but it continues. It ruins sleep. I usually get 4 to 5 hours tops broken up through the night, always waking at 3 am. Never fails. Then i need to fall back.

Add to this, occasional jabs in the feet, like an ice pic, electrical, so strange, only at night, only in bed and during the day it all subsides.

I have thought of the bio electrical field, what Sabrina Williams talks about. It not easy to fully grasp, but there are bio electrical fields that they can read and track. Been going on since the 70ies.


any thoughts friends ?
pd

Delight
28th January 2025, 01:23
The first thing I thought of is scabies.


Scabies is an itchy skin rash caused by a tiny burrowing mite called Sarcoptes scabiei. Intense itching occurs in the area where the mite burrows. The need to scratch may be stronger at night. (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/scabies/symptoms-causes/syc-20377378)

Scabies symptoms include:

Itching, often severe and usually worse at night
Thin, wavy tunnels made up of tiny blisters or bumps on the skin
Scabies is often found in the skin folds. But scabies can appear on many parts of the body. In adults and older children, scabies is most often found:

Between the fingers and toes
In the armpits
Around the waist
Along the insides of the wrists
On the inner elbows
On the soles of the feet
On the chest
Around the nipples
Around the belly button
Around the genitals
In the groin area
On the buttocks
In infants and young children, common sites of scabies usually include the:

Fingers
Face, scalp and neck
Palms of the hands
Soles of the feet
If you've had scabies before, symptoms may start within a few days of exposure. If you've never had scabies, it can take as long as six weeks for symptoms to start. You can still spread scabies even if you don't have any symptoms yet.

When to see a doctor
Talk to your health care provider if you have any symptoms of scabies.

Many skin conditions, such as dermatitis or eczema, also can cause itching and small bumps on the skin. Your health care provider can find the exact cause of your symptoms so that you receive the right treatment. Antihistamines or nonprescription lotions may ease itching. But they won't get rid of the mites or their eggs.

SilentFeathers
28th January 2025, 01:38
It does almost sound like an allergic reaction to something.

It sounds like you've tried about everything. Perhaps buy another mattress, and wash all your sheets and blankets. (start fresh!)

it may not be scabies but another type of mite or perhaps some type of mold or something in your mattress.

thepainterdoug
28th January 2025, 01:47
Delight. will look into it but not many of the symptoms. no tunneling, nothing visible, but ill look into it

Silent feathers, mattress is clean and in a mattress bag. Sheets washed etc who knows??

thanks. going to look into all

update/ looked up scabies. no, dont believe so. no visual indication at all. the pics shown are rather obvious

Sue (Ayt)
28th January 2025, 02:03
Doug - Some prescription medications can cause itching. If you are on any at all, do check each one and see if it could be a side effect. (My mother had itching from metoprolol.)

thepainterdoug
28th January 2025, 02:05
sue/ No I take no medications at all. Thanks

meat suit
28th January 2025, 02:43
Histamine is the word that first comes to me.
I always had this kind of thing years ago, and took antihistamines to help as prescribed by a dermatologist.
This was of course years before my awakening and figuring out what foods and other products I should avoid.

Histamine is naturally in many foods, like cinnamon is really high, so I avoid that.

You can probably get over the counter anti histamines if you want to check if thats it, also there are a bunch of herbs etc with anti histamines...

s7e6e
28th January 2025, 02:56
Have you tried sleeping in a different room of the house?

Flash
28th January 2025, 03:57
It takes a good deal for me to go to a doctor. I first turn over every stone, research and experiment , and eventually I figure it out. But so far , I cannot.

I have itching every night. No visible symptoms, no rash , nothing on the skin, its more right under the skin and primarily under arms, groin and back

It feels like microscopic bugs are crawling on me. It feels like a spider web falls over my face. So delicate, but it makes me scratch and rub my face. Then an itch on the scalp, then here than there.

Then under my arms, then groin, then on my back in a round robin that is disturbing my sleep.

Its well over a year this is happening and I have tried looking at supplements or the excess of , soy , sugar, nuts, peanut butter, candida, even popcorn I make with coconut oil on an almost nightly basis .
i have thought of wi fi as well.

I have recently changed laundry detergent to something free of chems in it.

I thought that solved it, but it continues. It ruins sleep. I usually get 4 to 5 hours tops broken up through the night, always waking at 3 am. Never fails. Then i need to fall back.

Add to this, occasional jabs in the feet, like an ice pic, electrical, so strange, only at night, only in bed and during the day it all subsides.

I have thought of the bio electrical field, what Sabrina Williams talks about. It not easy to fully grasp, but there are bio electrical fields that they can read and track. Been going on since the 70ies.


any thoughts friends ?
pd

The jab makes me think of neurological issue. When the tiny nerve ending we have die, there is lots of itch and jabs in the feet. Are you diabetic by any chance? If so it would mean you are going through neuropathy.

If you put yourself in a cold environment it should decrease in intensity - except for the jab. Check for neuropathy.

On the other hand, except fot the jab, it does look like scabies. Scabie is very easy to catch. Just a light rub on someone who has iton a bus and there it is for you. Or contact with clothing od an infectedperson would do it.

You will notice that hospital staff do not touch clothes or sheets of people who maybe beggars for that reason. My daughter did not know, touched the sheet on a stretcher of a homeless person and got scabies. She is very careful now.

onawah
28th January 2025, 03:58
I have itchy skin when my shower water is very hot, which opens the pores to let in the toxins that are in the tap water here--fluoride, chlorine, and whatever pharmaceuticals that people are flushing down their toilets and the community water filtration system is not capable of filtering out. :sick:
I stopped using any soap products for laundry and started using pure white vinegar instead.
(I just bought a new replacement shower filter, but getting fluoride out is very difficult and expensive, and I imagine that is one of the worst culprits.)
The itching doesn't happen when I consistently shower in warm water.
Winter leads to dry, itchy skin, so I moisturize with coconut oil and recently started using organic castor oil topically as well, which helps.
See the thread on DMSO, which might prove helpful: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74073-DMSO-Info
I've been using DMSO topically as well, but sparingly, as my skin is very sensitive and it burns and itches a lot for the first 10 minutes or so after application, but it helps with tendenitis, arthritis, muscular cramping, etc.
And it is reported to be effective for all kinds of other conditions as well, so it might treat what is ailing you, and probably can't hurt to try.
(Make sure you buy pure DMSO in a glass bottle as it is a solvent and will break down plastic.)
EMFs could certainly be the culprit, though, judging from the description of your symptoms.
If you can afford it (they are pricey), there are bed canopies, sheets, hats, clothing, pendants, etc. made with silver threads which are supposed to help block the EMFs.
I am EMF sensitive and recently bought a (modestly priced) hat and pendant, and they do seem to help.


Delight. will look into it but not many of the symptoms. no tunneling, nothing visible, but ill look into it

Silent feathers, mattress is clean and in a mattress bag. Sheets washed etc who knows??

thanks. going to look into all

update/ looked up scabies. no, dont believe so. no visual indication at all. the pics shown are rather obvious

Artemesia
28th January 2025, 07:26
So this might not be relevant but… have you done any liver or gall bladder cleanses to see if it helps? Bile salts from a sludgey build up in the gallbladder will emerge on the skin and activate ‘nociceptors’, which give the sensation of itching when triggered. The salts themselves dont cause hives but the sensation of itching can be intense and if you scratch all night you might rub your skin raw in places. It is really common for there to be gallbladder issues from blood breakdown, processing toxicity via the liver etc. Some simple naturopathic ways to gently clear out the gallbladder are to:
1) drink lemon water upon waking first thing in the morning
2) milk thistle tincture
3) dandelion tincture or tea (the tea is quite easy to find)
If you want a ‘blast’ for your gallbladder, a blend of grapefruit, lemon and orange in the blender and drink it all straight is really amazing.
There are also some gallbladder cleanses with changa piedra (stone breaker herb) that are helpful.

The gallbladder meridian is really commonly targeted for a lot of reasons due to its vital importance in overall health. Here is a link to some additional useful info about this which incorporates traditional Chinese medicine understandings of this energy meridian and why it is targeted.

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Gallbladder_Meridian

But the itchy skin, particularly at night, is often a key indicator that this is linked to the gall bladder via the excretion of bile salts via the skin (our largest detoxing organ in the body). Hot soaks in mustard bath (look for Dr. singha’s mustard bath, its an ayurvedic medicine product) can really help if you are up at night exasperated and want to just clear it out and go back to sleep. The hot bath will relax you, the mustard soak will detox and it also helps one to sleep really soundly as well.

Hope this helps!

Rizotto
28th January 2025, 11:15
It sounds like you might have Lyme disease, so you might want to get tested for that. I've experienced similar symptoms after I got an insect bite which didn't heal for months, most likely a tick bite.

Personally, I found that tea tree oil application on the itchy skin really helped decrease the itchy sensation to a tolerable level, or even eliminate it for the night. Test a small quantity on your skin first to see if you have an allergic reaction.

If the tea tree oil feels too 'hot' on the skin, try to lightly sprinkle it on your bed sheet or on the inner side of your pyjamas instead. Tea tree oil won't stain fabrics. But it has a strong smell which will dissipate after several hours.

Also, a nice warm cup of artemisia tea before going to bed will help. And/or have a bath with an infusion of artemisia before going to bed.

Avoid sugar as much as possible.

AxisMundi
28th January 2025, 12:50
It takes a good deal for me to go to a doctor. I first turn over every stone, research and experiment , and eventually I figure it out. But so far , I cannot.

I have itching every night. No visible symptoms, no rash , nothing on the skin, its more right under the skin and primarily under arms, groin and back

It feels like microscopic bugs are crawling on me. It feels like a spider web falls over my face. So delicate, but it makes me scratch and rub my face. Then an itch on the scalp, then here than there.

Then under my arms, then groin, then on my back in a round robin that is disturbing my sleep.

Its well over a year this is happening and I have tried looking at supplements or the excess of , soy , sugar, nuts, peanut butter, candida, even popcorn I make with coconut oil on an almost nightly basis .
i have thought of wi fi as well.

I have recently changed laundry detergent to something free of chems in it.

I thought that solved it, but it continues. It ruins sleep. I usually get 4 to 5 hours tops broken up through the night, always waking at 3 am. Never fails. Then i need to fall back.

Add to this, occasional jabs in the feet, like an ice pic, electrical, so strange, only at night, only in bed and during the day it all subsides.

I have thought of the bio electrical field, what Sabrina Williams talks about. It not easy to fully grasp, but there are bio electrical fields that they can read and track. Been going on since the 70ies.


any thoughts friends ?
pd

Hi Doug

I had an acute episode of something very similar about 18 months back. Lasted approximately 3 weeks and came in tandem with a numb right arm and vertigo. I've had a mammoth load of chronic health issues my entire life but these crawling sensations were driving me nuts and really didn't think I'd want to live if they continued for more than another few weeks.

Intuitively, I think this is something to do with HHV4 (Epstein Barr virus) in its most aggressive stage, possibly in tandem with flare-up of other hidden chronic infections (Lyme-related & possibly Bartonella as you mention the foot-stabbing).

I got rid of my mine by running a recently designed super-sweep on my Spooky 2 Rife Tech which hits all known frequencies where Rife himself found pathogenic material: about 140,000Hz to 18,000,000Hz. Crawling sensations were gone in 2 days. I know it's a bit of a mission but if you can find someone local-ish who has this tech, knows what they're doing and has this sweep installed (it's now known as Stu Tooley's Megawobble), it is all done remotely with your DNA (fingernails). There's a thread here on this forum on Spooky 2 and perhaps someone in the States would be prepared to have you send them your nails?

Other than that, it's imperative that you minimise all EMF as much as possible as this exacerbates everything and charges these viral expressions like a battery. I don't know what your financial situation is but the best option here is to sleep in a professionally crafted anti-EMF tent. I'm confident if you can do this then the symptoms should reduce after a few weeks.

Wishing you the best :angel:

ian33
28th January 2025, 14:37
i have the same...strict autoimmune diet helps....hard but worth it

thepainterdoug
28th January 2025, 14:41
THANK YOU EVERYONE!! Truly appreciate all your input

MEAT SUITE Histamine, I do use cinnamon, but very moderately in coffee. But will keep in mind

s7e6e / happens in every room and varying locations.

FLASH/ im non jabbed/ yes I have heard of the diabetic thing, but unaware I am. i have a good diet, little to no sugar. moderate keto. But will consider this. no visuals at all. No scabies evidence at all . my skin and body are very clean. heal well. toe nails, finger nails healthy. no tunneling, scarring, skin all good No visual evidence of being itchy.
i have considered neurological. iT SEEMS INTERNAL, but displayed in this symptom

Onawah/ I have dmso. have not tried it as of yet. I began creating a wifi free canopy to live and sleep under. but incomplete, a failure on my part. I have bad habits regarding computer in bed , cell phone etc. Mainly because when I slept in wi fi free situations, nothing changed.

Artemisia/. good point. I need to address some internal organ questions. I know liver can create itching, but i display no other symptoms . Will look into a cleanse. and can do the supplements

Rizotto/ interesting regarding lyme. Ill look it up and see. I have tea tree oil and will put into my hand cream. But again, I dont believe this is external in origin.

Axis Mundi/ I own a hulda clarke zapper. I wonder if i can find these frequencies and adapt? It has programmable frequencies. there are thousands of itimized lists. I wonder which set would be best? I think there is a lyme protocal

AxisMundi
28th January 2025, 15:29
THANK YOU EVERYONE!! Truly appreciate all your input

Axis Mundi/ I own a hulda clarke zapper. I wonder if i can find these frequencies and adapt? It has programmable frequencies. there are thousands of itimized lists. I wonder which set would be best? I think there is a lyme protocal

Maybe of some benefit but this sweep is a meticulously designed protocol by an engineer who's spent 18 months calibrating complex deep-level settings of the software so as to clean out the entire terrain and the latest version is run over a month long period. Maybe there's someone close to you who'd be prepared to run it for you if they have the tech?

You're welcome to send your nails here but I'm in the UK and I've had other people's nails go 'missing' just sending them from the other other side of the country. Technically, you're not supposed to send human body parts in the post! If you want to chance it, do message me :shooting star:

TrumanCash
28th January 2025, 15:44
It could be that your body is trying to detox something since the skin is the largest detox organ. Have you tried saunas to sweat it out?

I've even used saunas to sweat out graphene as well as other toxins. I use gradual increasing doses of niacin to facilitate the detoxing, starting with 50 to 100 mgs. It's also good to support the liver while detoxing, of course, so burdock root & seed, dandelion and milk thistle are good choices along with vitamin/mineral supplementation.

Artemesia
28th January 2025, 17:54
One additional resource for detoxing are these simple, free and easy to do Qi Gong exercises focused on Liver and Gallbladder Meridian Detoxification

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Michel Leclerc
28th January 2025, 21:01
Hello Doug – just one (somewhat expensive) experiment. Try a winter holiday of at least two weeks, possibly three, in a completely different environment. (Desert surroundings? Dry, hot.) See if and how it changes.

Additionally – or before. Do the one-week "cleanup" proposed by Andreas Kalcker (https://andreaskalcker.com/en/).

grapevine
29th January 2025, 00:55
Hi Doug - the areas you mention, ie armpits and groin, are sweaty ones and so is the back. Do you think you might get overhot and it could be prickly heat especially if you have overly dry skin? Do you put anything on it like calomine? The cream/ointment is better than the liquid . . .

It also seems (just a suggestion) that because you've had it for so long you might have created a neuro-path, so that it's now part of your regular sleep pattern. Try changing your habits, go to bed earlier, sleep with less covers, that sort of thing, to see if it makes any difference. You say you don't get it during the day, but do you ever take a nap during the day and if so does it happen then?

The jabs in the toes sound like neuropathy and might just be part of growing older (aging's a bitch regardless of health) especially if you've been a sportsman (wear and tear).

Irminsül
29th January 2025, 02:20
For some reason you quickly ruled out the scabies option. I don't know how you came to that conclusion because literally all the points you are describing match that condition.
I advise you not to be guided by the photos you see on the internet. The bumps are small at first. I know this because, unfortunately, a couple of years ago I contracted scabies from hugging a relative who had that problem (neither she nor I knew at the time, otherwise I wouldn't have hugged her haha).
When I identified that I clearly had scabies, I went to the doctor and they prescribed me ivermectin. I also had to wash all my clothes at a certain temperature. I was cured but the whole process was very cumbersome.
I would tell you not to rule out having the same problem before having checked that it really is not the case.

thepainterdoug
29th January 2025, 21:13
Thanks again everyone. At this point, I really dont think its scabies, no symptoms until night time. no visuals anywhere on my body at any time . just doesnt add up unless there is a form that does not show any symptoms at all?
Wifi related somehow speaks to me. But even that not sure

Im beginning Ivermectin today and will see what happens. 3 mg tab twice a day?? we shall see.

thepainterdoug
29th January 2025, 22:48
THIS SEEMS ACCURATE / Formacation

https://www.healthline.com/health/formication

If you feel like something is crawling on your skin without a physical cause, you may be experiencing a tactile hallucination. Certain health conditions, medications, and drugs may cause it.

What is formication?

Formication is the feeling of insects crawling across or underneath your skin. The name comes from the Latin word “formica,”which means ant.

Formication is known as a type of paresthesia. Paresthesia happen when you feel sensations on your skin that don’t have a physical cause. Paresthesia can take many forms. These can include burning, tingling, or numbness. With formication, you might also describe the “crawling” sensation as feeling like “pins and needles.” Formication is also called a tactile hallucination. This means that you’re feeling a sensation that has no physical cause.

Formication can be a symptom of several conditions. These conditions include fibromyalgia and Parkinson’s disease. Withdrawal from alcohol or drug use can also trigger formication.

RunningDeer
29th January 2025, 23:22
Im beginning Ivermectin today and will see what happens. 3 mg tab twice a day?? we shall see.



I’m half way through an Ivermectin protocol. I use the paste in a tube. It’s one application a day which is about 1/2” (1.25 cm). One complete treatment equals 6 days. Dr. Lee Merritt suggests 3 days on and 4 days off and repeat the second round. She also uses MMS to rid the dying parasites on the days off. Dr. Merritt treats herself every new and full moon. I don't have a set schedule. It comes out to about 2-3 times a year.

Here are a few of my notes:




Dr. Merritt recommends a parasite rotation protocol with such products as Ivermectin, Fenbendazole (benzimidazole anthelmintic) and MMS because there are different parasite treatments for specific parasites. (IIRC There was one more example mentioned.)

Dr. Lee Merritt DOES NOT recommend medicines that you pour on. For instance, pour on the skin of a hog because the medical complex adds other things to make it go through the hogs thick hide. Also do not purchase a knock off brand from China. Amazon or a tractor supply store provides these animal meds. (Ivermectin)




Hope you find the answer soon, Doug. https://i.imgur.com/BXLWrJV.gif

:heart:

RunningDeer
29th January 2025, 23:35
What is formication?

Formication is the feeling of insects crawling across or underneath your skin. The name comes from the Latin word “formica,”which means ant.



Ants crawling underneath the skin. That's how I've explained the sensation I get when I've eaten or come in contact with things I'm allergic to, such as mold, mildew, certain grasses, eggs. Also those healthy green juice powders have ingredients that make me itch big time.
................https://i.imgur.com/UGTAA9k.gif

I've also recently figured out that I get the crawly itch with some incense sticks and essential oils used for aromatherapy. I'm grateful to have figured it out. It's my understanding that as I heal my body, many of the above culprits will no longer be a problem. I'm in my fourth month of doing an elimination diet and can now eat eggs.

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30th January 2025, 00:11
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Casey Claar
30th January 2025, 00:54
Thanks again everyone. At this point, I really dont think its scabies, no symptoms until night time. no visuals anywhere on my body at any time . just doesnt add up unless there is a form that does not show any symptoms at all?
Wifi related somehow speaks to me. But even that not sure

Im beginning Ivermectin today and will see what happens. 3 mg tab twice a day?? we shall see.

Doug,

Because I have worked in the care industry for 3 decades and am, very much not to my delight, familiar with BUGS of all kinds ( including scabies, bed bugs, etc.. ), what you've said about your symptoms principally coming on at nighttime jumps out at me- notably in relation to mite-type bugs. Irminsul is correct, scabies is not often not seen for quite some time after contracting it - but it generally comes up under the nails, in the webs of the fingers and/or toes, in any bend, such as the crooks of the arms, behind the knees, groin and underarms. This said, surely after a whole year it would be very noticeable indeed. THIS SAID, some people are less 'alergic' to certain types of bites then some others. Some might get the itching but not visible bites, and/or vice versa. This can particularly be true with bed bugs ( something that, living in Los Angels for 12 years [bedbug capital of the world] I became very familiar with ) <-- also a large reason for my departure 5-6 years ago. Bed bugs, once they move in, find homes EVERYWHERE. Your body may get the creepy crawlies anytime you put yourself near them. Just to rule it out, have you taken your bed apart and thoroughly inspected it? the whole thing including the frame? Although after a year, if this were the problem, they would surely have made homes of more than just the bed, the bed itself surely would not be left out. I hope to high heaven this is not what the problem is, BB's can not be won against, a person literally has to move and get rid near everything they have (something I know from experience). I'd take scabies any day of the week -especially if caught early. I used to work in group care when I first entered the care industry, very common for residents to contract it after hospital stays, and the entire home, all residents and staff would have to be treated. It was almost a regular thing, twice annually (ack). - but at least it is just a topical treatment and you're done.

I sure hope you get this thing figured out soon.

Itching is no small matter, and loss of sleep is probably the most debilitating thing anyone can experience.

I'll be checking in here for any more reports from you.


Casey

syrwong
30th January 2025, 02:58
Hi Doug, did you take the vaccines? People have had all sorts of strange issues since the jabs. If so, you need to detox. I think a good start is Invermectin/Fenandazole. If there is no effect, use MMS. My friend who took the Chinese Sinovac jabs (yes, the Chinese vaccines were no better) was very weak when I met her 6 months ago, with insomnia, lack of appetite, itchy all over the body. Now these symptoms are all gone with the above medications.

Casey Claar
30th January 2025, 03:05
Hi Doug, did you take the vaccines? People have had all sorts of strange issues since the jabs. If so, you need to detox. I think a good start is Invermectin/Fenandazole. If there is no effect, use MMS. My friend who took the Chinese Sinovac jabs (yes, the Chinese vaccines were no better) was very weak when I met her 6 months ago, with insomnia, lack of appetite, itchy all over the body. Now these symptoms are all gone with the above medications.

If I might speak for him, no, he didn't take those, (along with most of us gathered here).

Satori
30th January 2025, 03:21
It takes a good deal for me to go to a doctor. I first turn over every stone, research and experiment , and eventually I figure it out. But so far , I cannot.

I have itching every night. No visible symptoms, no rash , nothing on the skin, its more right under the skin and primarily under arms, groin and back

It feels like microscopic bugs are crawling on me. It feels like a spider web falls over my face. So delicate, but it makes me scratch and rub my face. Then an itch on the scalp, then here than there.

Then under my arms, then groin, then on my back in a round robin that is disturbing my sleep.

Its well over a year this is happening and I have tried looking at supplements or the excess of , soy , sugar, nuts, peanut butter, candida, even popcorn I make with coconut oil on an almost nightly basis .
i have thought of wi fi as well.

I have recently changed laundry detergent to something free of chems in it.

I thought that solved it, but it continues. It ruins sleep. I usually get 4 to 5 hours tops broken up through the night, always waking at 3 am. Never fails. Then i need to fall back.

Add to this, occasional jabs in the feet, like an ice pic, electrical, so strange, only at night, only in bed and during the day it all subsides.

I have thought of the bio electrical field, what Sabrina Williams talks about. It not easy to fully grasp, but there are bio electrical fields that they can read and track. Been going on since the 70ies.


any thoughts friends ?
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I cannot recall exactly, but I believe it was Dr Lee Merritt who described something very much like what you describe, but she described the sensation as like ants walking on or under the skin. Who ever it was, and I believe it was Merritt or someone in an interview with her, believe based on their research, that it is parasites. If so, the solution they agreed upon was to treat for parasites.

For what it’s worth.

Sue (Ayt)
30th January 2025, 03:38
Doug,
Here is a link to an article covering possible causes of itching without a rash:
8 causes of itchy skin without a rash (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325706#faq)

Sometimes a nutritional deficiency could be the cause. I remember having itchy skin years ago, before I started taking any vitamins. It resolved at that time, simply by my taking a good multi-vitamin. I also have heard that an excess of certain vitamins can also cause an itch. That usually is resolved simply by stopping a particular supplement that is not needed.

RatRodRob...RRR
30th January 2025, 06:21
Hi Doug

Im largely undiagnosed, even after more than 7 yrs of testing.

They do know i have small fiber neuropathy and large fiber neuropathy, and your symptoms match mine.

I live with "burning" and "stinging" all over but mainly feet hands head and face.
Its like sunburn.
Then i get these random strong pricks, like someone sticking a pin in me and happens everywhere on my body.

You mentioned having feelings like a bug crawling across your skin, i get this every day, its because of "Fasciculations"(spelling?), and feels like some spider/bug crawling under or on top of your skin, i have a video of fasciculations in my legs, mainly calf muscles, ill try post this vid for you, .

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I pray that you dont see this fasciculations or muscle twitching anywhere on you mate.

Hi mods, can someone please embed these two vids...^^^... (edited to ask this)
Done ~Sue

RunningDeer
30th January 2025, 12:30
Hi mods, can someone please embed these two vids...^^^... (edited to ask this)



RatRodRob, the links didn't work for me so I took these off your Youtube channel. https://i.imgur.com/gXR1YbU.gif

That looks like when I get leg cramps. I'm not suggesting that's what you have. I use Hi-Lyte (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MXDAHIB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A2YBUKGVC3GJ20&th=1) mineral drops which is an electrolyte supplement. Drinking more water with a pinch of REDMOND Real Sea Salt (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000R5PKD0?psc=1&smid=A1OCG57QS7KOY5&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp) also helps. Strenuous exercise without time for muscle recovery is another cause for leg cramps.

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thepainterdoug
30th January 2025, 17:28
running deer/ im taking the ivermectin on speculation. A 3mg tab morning and night. Where are you buying the Ivermectin. Im sorry if you already posted it??

No vaccines!

the feeling of a bug is so subtle. like a hair slipping down my face which then causes me to try to brush it off or itch it.

thanks Sue, will look at the link

t y all

I had bed bugs 5 years ago from allowing someone in my house I shouldnt have. Thats me, Mr Liberal lol When it come to treating people. Was beyond a nightmare, cost me well over $1000 to get rid of. So in NOOO way these are bed bugs.

RRR, I get on calf muscle cramp and tremor, usually after playing ice hockey and not enough electrolytes.

Im going to give the Ivermectin a week or two. maybe it will hit the mark in some way.

Delight
30th January 2025, 17:50
running deer/ im taking the ivermectin on speculation. A 3mg tab morning and night. Where are you buying the Ivermectin. Im sorry if you already posted it??

No vaccines!

the feeling of a bug is so subtle. like a hair slipping down my face which then causes me to try to brush it off or itch it.

thanks Sue, will look at the link

t y all

I had bed bugs 5 years ago from allowing someone in my house I shouldnt have. Thats me, Mr Liberal lol When it come to treating people. Was beyond a nightmare, cost me well over $1000 to get rid of. So in NOOO way these are bed bugs.

RRR, I get on calf muscle cramp and tremor, usually after playing ice hockey and not enough electrolytes.

Im going to give the Ivermectin a week or two. maybe it will hit the mark in some way.

The reason I thought of scabies is because a friend had itching (severe at night) and no rash. She had a skin scraping, I think, that diagnosed the scabies. Ozone treatment of belongings may be helpful but laundering all cloth related items is important.

Symptoms take a few days to weeks to resolve. Since you are entertaining the idea of ivermectin, here is an article you (and others) might like to read.....

The Treatment of Scabies with Ivermectin
Authors: Terri L. Meinking, David Taplin, Jorge L. Herminda, Rube Pardo, and Francisco A. KerdelAuthor Info & Affiliations
Published July 6, 1995
N Engl J Med 1995;333:26-30
DOI: 10.1056/NEJM199507063330105
VOL. 333 NO. 1
Copyright © 1995 (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199507063330105)

RunningDeer
30th January 2025, 20:48
running deer/ im taking the ivermectin on speculation. A 3mg tab morning and night. Where are you buying the Ivermectin.


Dr. Group (drgroup.com (https://drgroup.com/)) takes Ivermectin once or twice a week for maintenance. He goes on to say purchase the animal paste: Ivermectin Paste (https://www.amazon.com/Durvet-Ivermectin-Ounces-Flavored-Wormer/dp/B00OC4X0JI/ref=sr_1_4?content-id=amzn1.sym.3e23f907-b859-4094-8b45-cf96f8c9286b:amzn1.sym.3e23f907-b859-4094-8b45-cf96f8c9286b&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HYfauzUv-AR5jNx0p6vMgcVdQ1mZ8iJvCsrYLYM1KHnvhr_T3kKBI6Sz7wwxQeJh4xVg28KVnO_6xFcK1QGRNnHP33fO_ECzK3DX-HxIc23fQUauQxcRDFdNmD0UiPrjGwK8_oEwgy2xND35UapCVuzWZi3iWxGvOKfZsj4pMd0nNALkcD_QnSjteD9PYcU4e4D3HPLVW FvXpcM6xdbPnTZYlz_YE43kRo0oi3K4lC4.omHNl8OUJqbiUk__b3XVBLdDOOPpaiu6QLZseNkW3iQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=ivermectin+pills+for+personal+care&pd_rd_r=fb6d3cbc-9a6b-4cef-9986-30ff2f91f5d5&pd_rd_w=IbGxL&pd_rd_wg=siy8j&pf_rd_p=3e23f907-b859-4094-8b45-cf96f8c9286b&pf_rd_r=9G69VTYZ8BNQBETAW9BN&qid=1711472395&sr=8-4) (apple flavored). It’s the safest because you don’t know what’s in the capsules. He recommends a half inch of the gel once or twice a week for maintenance because we’re being attack with parasites.

Two other products he suggests as part of the protocol are: Paratrex (https://globalhealing.com/products/paratrex) which eliminates/cleanses the toxic & harmful organisms in stomach and intestinal track & Oxy-Power (https://globalhealing.com/collections/supplements/products/oxy-powder?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAACi8PU1xWuOWGPtQZ2hSG94Nbj1yd&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4-y8BhC3ARIsAHmjC_HtJ1siPwQj-i2MOoF1XcMRckPVDpJNxGWkVp9ABp7oQWXjxBuwI80aAvm3EALw_wcB) which I forgot to mention that I take Oxy-Power on the third day for both rounds of Ivermectin.

Dr. Group of Global Healing (https://globalhealing.com/pages/dr-group?srsltid=AfmBOoqsufueLQj-8YR2NL6C2MLu562hh8OEYe1mAsT39YOy5TiJ7JvD) also sells these products on Amazon.

BTW: The 5 Docs of Critical Thinking (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117611-Critically-Thinking-with-Dr.-Tenpenny-and-Dr.-Palevski-and-the-5-Doctors&p=1477603&viewfull=1#post1477603) agree with his POV about Ivermectin.

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Dennis Leahy
30th January 2025, 22:39
Doug, anything new in your B vitamin protocol? Vitamin B-12 and Niacin (B-3) can cause prickly and itchy skin. (As an aside, there are new forms of B-1 (thiamine) and B-6 that are far superior to the 'old' ones: Benfotiamine is your new B1, and P-5-P is your new B6.) You might try mega-dosing benfotiamine for a while - it's supposed to help with neuropathy.

If it's happening only at night, then I'd think about what body chemistry normally changes in our day/night cycle. Like melatonin and cortisol.

The "electric ice pick" sounds like a nerve issue in your feet. I suspect most Americanos that are not on a carnivore diet are pre-diabetic - we eat about a trillion pounds of sugar and hidden sugar (starch, carbs). With diabetic leg issues, peripheral neuropathy is typical, and it can be numbness or surprise ice pick electrical stabs, or both.

[ The leg nerves are the longest in the body, and the first to start to de-myelinate and fail. If you try to solve the nerve issue directly, (like with lion's mane mushroom powder), you'll find little relief. If this is an issue, you have to repair the circulatory system first, specifically the capillaries that feed the leg nerves. Dr. Gundry reports that another piece of the issue is that many plants contain compounds to try to stop insects from eating them. Many of those are "lectins", which are undigestable proteins that are also physically damaging to the gut lining or other tissues, and if they escape into the blood stream (via "leaky gut") then those nasty lectin proteins are free to roam around and cause damage. Worse, lectin molecules are attracted to glucose molecules. Excess sugar in the blood is problematic, damaging, kinda caustic - but add lectins to the glucose and you're sending a ninja squad down to your capillaries to do big damage.

A strict carnivore diet has almost no lectins (egg whites do contain some.) Millet and sorghum are the only 2 grains that don't have lectins (but of course, they are carbs. I mention those grains because I didn't know any better and thought I was eating a neutral diet when consuming just brown rice or oats (both of which contain lectins.) ]

Cold plunge shock is supposed to help with nerve repair - if you've got the cajones to do it (of course, guys with cajones hit that ice water and instantly have something closer to ovaries!) Maybe ending a warm shower with some cold water is more doable (for cold wimps like me.)

Aloe vera is a miracle substance for many skin issues - if this is a skin issue (though it sounds like a nerve issue.) If it doesn't help, it certainly won't hurt.

A day or two of a water fast might help clean out some gunk, but then, you're having trouble sleeping, and the sleep cycle is where autophagy occurs.

An epsom salt soak would get magnesium into your skin, and into your body. Along with your daily vitamins D-3 and K-2, make sure you are also taking magnesium (like 500mg minimum, Mg glycinate or bisglycinate.)

Hope something helps!

RatRodRob...RRR
30th January 2025, 23:41
Hi Doug

Im largely undiagnosed, even after more than 7 yrs of testing.

They do know i have small fiber neuropathy and large fiber neuropathy, and your symptoms match mine.

I live with "burning" and "stinging" all over but mainly feet hands head and face.
Its like sunburn.
Then i get these random strong pricks, like someone sticking a pin in me and happens everywhere on my body.

You mentioned having feelings like a bug crawling across your skin, i get this every day, its because of "Fasciculations"(spelling?), and feels like some spider/bug crawling under or on top of your skin, i have a video of fasciculations in my legs, mainly calf muscles, ill try post this vid for you, .

adtj45wZsTg

RLxNg907V3c Yes this is me as you can see.

I pray that you dont see this fasciculations or muscle twitching anywhere on you mate.

Hi mods, can someone please embed these two vids...^^^... (edited to ask this)
Done ~Sue

Thank you Sue, much obliged............... RRR

RatRodRob...RRR
30th January 2025, 23:44
Hi mods, can someone please embed these two vids...^^^... (edited to ask this)



RatRodRob, the links didn't work for me so I took these off your Youtube channel. https://i.imgur.com/gXR1YbU.gif

That looks like when I get leg cramps. I'm not suggesting that's what you have. I use Hi-Lyte (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MXDAHIB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A2YBUKGVC3GJ20&th=1) mineral drops which is an electrolyte supplement. Drinking more water with a pinch of REDMOND Real Sea Salt (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000R5PKD0?psc=1&smid=A1OCG57QS7KOY5&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp) also helps. Strenuous exercise without time for muscle recovery is another cause for leg cramps.

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