View Full Version : Hacking the Mind - a thread of evidence
JackMcThorn
2nd February 2025, 19:14
This thread should follow a path a little less traveled and point to evidence of mind control. Evidence that, short of personal experiences, is elusive. Finding software and hardware is impossible but I think it will be found at some point, someone is going to make a mistake and let it slip and I want to be there when it happens for the protection of myself and others; and, posted on Avalon for many reasons. So this thread is not intended for first person explanations of experiences but sourcing or discovery of devices and software that conduct mind control. Not including propaganda, media, books or other more analog conveyors of mind control but rather the digital evidence, evidence we need for many people's stories to be vindicated.
This article appeared in Popular Communications in 1985:
https://ia601808.us.archive.org/11/items/nano-vna/Soviet%20Mind-Control%20Radio.pdf
This article appeared in Defense News in 1993:
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000600150003-3.pdf
This site covers the gamut:
https://sites.google.com/site/mcrais/home
These points of interest above are not exactly the evidence I am looking for but I think they need to be documented on Avalon.
Some might argue mind control and psychology is as old as MKULTRA of the 197o's. Some might argue it is as old as WWII.
I would argue that it is much, much older. The posture of rulers and management of territory runs its course for thousands of years.
And I think with more people actively searching, the more likely we will find it.
Artemesia
3rd February 2025, 03:17
So this thread is not intended for first person explanations of experiences but sourcing or discovery of devices and software that conduct mind control. Not including propaganda, media, books or other more analog conveyors of mind control but rather the digital evidence, evidence we need for many people's stories to be vindicated.
This article appeared in Popular Communications in 1985:
https://ia601808.us.archive.org/11/items/nano-vna/Soviet%20Mind-Control%20Radio.pdf
This article appeared in Defense News in 1993:
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000600150003-3.pdf
This site covers the gamut:
https://sites.google.com/site/mcrais/home
These points of interest above are not exactly the evidence I am looking for but I think they need to be documented on Avalon.
Some might argue mind control and psychology is as old as MKULTRA of the 197o's.
And I think with more people actively searching, the more likely we will find it.
Finding internal multiples is evidence. Finding internal programs is evidence. Here is an amazing article about the politics of mind controland why
Dissociative identities ARE themselves evidence of high level mind control that can only be done in labs over many years with access to high grade medical equipment. It didn’t get much interest previously so I will link to that thread, where the article appears in its entirety along with links to its presence online elsewhere on the web.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123151-Dissociative-Identity-Disorder--IS--evidence-of-Mind-Control&p=1616037&viewfull=1#post1616037
https://didiva.com/2013/06/disinformation-and-did-the-politics-of-memory-2/
And another article about how
To work through mind control dissociative states:
https://ritualabuse.us/research/did/interview-with-brian-moss-qualities-and-information-useful-for-a-therapist-and-a-client-working-with-dissociative-identity-disorder-did/
And some other very up to date information about the mind control and eugenics interface being done on INFANTS 3 months of age and TODDLERS under age 3 by the Wellcome Trust and their new ‘Wellcome LEAP” program is here:
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/investigative-reports/a-leap-toward-humanitys-destruction/
JackMcThorn
3rd February 2025, 03:53
Hi Artemesia,
Your contribution is noteworthy but not in the spirit of the thread which is about locating the technology. The psychology has been beaten to a pulp but the hardware - the software - the machine is for some reason remaining to be a secret. The psychology and the personal experiences are well known. This is a pandora's box that must be opened sooner than later. Especially with the threat of AI.
It was important to me to begin a thread that provides a trail of discovery focused on the tools and my search for these tools is ongoing.
These types of threads [mine and yours and many others] do tend to get less traction. Why? I see many dead ends in the mind control arena. I am hoping a collection of sharp minds can ignite a fire of interest in these topics but get some tangible results - to unlock these deep secrets.
Keeping secrets is hard work. There is a quote - "Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead" and is attributed to Benjamin Franklin. If that were true, and the hundreds if not thousands of experiencers can provide discourse on the topic, where are the thousands of operators, coders, and handlers?
How do these secrets die?
There are answers and we are going to find them.
Mike Gorman
3rd February 2025, 04:39
Mass media is of course an obvious location for this mind control technology, this might not manifest as being a specific mechanism of specific control but works over vast swathes of time to alter and direct our thinking: consider the overall world view of a member of the British/American/Australian Et Al public in 1953, immersed as we all were in a one-directional media dynamic - narratives and content were produced intentionally and delivered via Radio/Television/Newspapers/Magazines to be consumed and digested by this public. A distinctively one-directional model - those who sceptically refer to the Internet/WWW as being an agency of more control fail to grasp the revolutionary opening of another channel
It is my personal compulsion to study this development of the World Wide Web as being essentially a liberation of publishing - if we disregard the superficial layers of hysteria and commercial hyperbole, what we see is the outstanding opportunity to 'talk back' at the ruling 'elites': hence their desperation to tame this new channel of discourse, labelling it 'disinformation' and so forth, beyond the overtly undisciplined 'toilet wall' waffling of the immature and hostile among us, is an entire opening and liberation of actual science and knowledge - our capacity to learn from one another is too often dismissed, this is truly the technology of human liberation.
But of course what can be used to inform, and liberate can also be used for more effective propaganda and 'mind control' - this is your hardware and software for mental control, Networks and the World Wide Web - we all take it for granted already, but consider all this has taken place within 40 years.
JackMcThorn
3rd February 2025, 22:39
Not including propaganda, media, books or other more analog conveyors of mind control but rather the digital evidence, evidence we need for many people's stories to be vindicated.
I'm not overlooking the mass media, the original experts in mind control - controlled by government entities historically. However, that is not the focus of the thread either. The www and networks is a tool for mass and possibly individual control. You are not wrong.
I am looking for the needle in the haystack, the focus is on the individual, not the group. A mass media group example might be the buyer's remorse of some britons that voted for Brexit and had cold feet after the fact. But this is not the thread for that discourse. Many other threads have exhausted the discussion.
Who: Governments - Business - Wealthy Individuals - all with motivations to control a person or group and looking for the path of least resistance.
What: Control the mind or nervous system for personal gain - to sway decision-makers, to close deals, to render someone incompetent.
When: Possibly for decades - using technology, centuries using analog methods
Where: Worldwide
How: This is the question I seek to find the answers to.
I just want to make sure I am clear on the intention of the thread, this evidence is crucial to the protection of the individual, and a detriment to the controller.
Artemesia
4th February 2025, 13:32
Hi Artemesia,
Your contribution is not in the spirit of the thread
The psychology has been beaten to a pulp
but the hardware - the software - the machine is for some reason remaining to be a secret.
The psychology and the personal experiences are well known.
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You are likely to say I am 'trying' to derail your thread. I think you already did this yourself, and its why I am taking you to task on this with continually including an angle you refuse to include.
If you are focusing solely on sourcing 'the technology' ....then you have already lost yourself into the matrix.
If you delete the human experience, if you negate the relevance of the organic, felt, empathic knowing in navigating the 'research' into mind control... .then you will never understand when it is you actually have found a 'solution' to your 'problem' with mind control.
To quote myself from my interview with Richard Willett, discussing the issue of why the researchers who do the mind control, the programmer/abusers and how they are able to do their scientific study at all, here is what I said:
"So any discussion with these people, and them saying they’re an outlier, and they’re maintaining that society has to dictate what counts as bioethics, has no understanding of Deep Ecology. And there’s a very important reason for this, ok. Because these people cannot see the forest for the trees, ok? They have no access to their heart. They have taken the key and thrown it out, and they have no empathic [capacity].... anyone who has had that experience, the deep reverence for all of life, the automaticity of awareness that come from the value in that. You have to live that. But if you have no heart intelligence, and you ‘need answers’, and you want to ‘solve the problem’, you are going to sit on an ethics board and look at the relevance to society and ‘how is this exploitable?’ You know, you have lost the plot already. "
I would say that in your expression of this, as evidenced by the phrases you used above which I quoted, I think you misunderstood the folly of a single-minded focus on the technology as somehow leading you to 'solve' what you see as a pandora's box problem.
I can tell you this: you will never find your way 'out' of that box with single minded focus. That is itself the illusion of the mind control doing its best work, as intended.
You will need to integrate the masculine skillset of single-minded focus with the feminine capacity for empathic awareness of both your own and others' felt experiences in order to form a unified organic compass from which to navigate a pathway 'out' of the mind control. If that is truly what you seek.
This is what I have emphasized from the beginning of trying to discuss this here, and why it is SO hard to reach people, because the mind control itself, the cultural conditioning that is the bulk of the mind control -- which is ingrained misogyny and dismissive of any kind of integrated divine masculine and divine feminine way of being in the world -- is what I have found to be essential to a healing path back to wholeness.
Its why I include the 'hopi prophecy rock' glyph here in the start of my reply to you.
Those people knew this truth since way back when. And STILL people are not listening even with "the threat of AI", as you put it, right in our faces now. Stand by your corn! Walk the organic flow! You will NOT find answers in the technology, set that broken path down!
So you can go ahead and dismiss what I said above as not relevant or 'not in the spirit of your thread', as you are right, it is obviously not. It is NOT the technology path, at all. The sole focus on technology is what created the mind control mess.
And it is not the path that will lead to solutions or explanations or constructive healing for humans.
The understanding of mind control from a purely technological 'research' path will only lead you to more misery and woe. I know another well known public MK survivor who took this route and it clearly does not go well.
An integrated, empathic approach, with both the capacity to be masculine in focus and also feminine in scope will be the pathway to a sustainable solution.
I will continue to 'derail' your thread to point this truth out because the mistake you are making to dismiss me and demand single minded focus on technology by 'brilliant minds' (your subtle derision unmasked) is not one that people interested in understanding and more importantly healing from mind control can afford to make.
I would suggest to you to use my repost of your own quotes as a divine mirror of introspection to understand that maybe you have some arenas for self growth in which to see your own truncated view as obscuring the more obvious wholistic path to healing. Look at your own mind control artefacts, they are laid bare in your own words! The 'devices' are staring right at you.
You were both rude and dismissive of me and frankly that behavior has no place in navigating mind control. It is itself an artefact of the misogyny programs of mind control. Look there, look with your heart, and then begin to navigate your 'research' into the 'tech.' All the artifacts *you* personally CAN and WILL, in the scope and capability of one individual human being, ever need to identify, locate, remove and repair are located WITHIN YOURSELF. You have everything you need to heal inside yourself already. An outward focus on errata controlled by others and out of your reach is only the deceptive distraction of an imposter spirit tricking you into its own mindspace of control which will keep you lost from your own healing. Your own healing is all you or any one of us needs to do.
JackMcThorn
4th February 2025, 14:39
Hi Artemesia,
Your contribution is not in the spirit of the thread
The psychology has been beaten to a pulp
but the hardware - the software - the machine is for some reason remaining to be a secret.
The psychology and the personal experiences are well known.
54395
You are likely to say I am 'trying' to derail your thread. I think you already did this yourself, and its why I am taking you to task on this with continually including an angle you refuse to include.
If you are focusing solely on sourcing 'the technology' ....then you have already lost yourself into the matrix.
If you delete the human experience, if you negate the relevance of the organic, felt, empathic knowing in navigating the 'research' into mind control... .then you will never understand when it is you actually have found a 'solution' to your 'problem' with mind control.
To quote myself from my interview with Richard Willett, discussing the issue of why the researchers who do the mind control, the programmer/abusers and how they are able to do their scientific study at all, here is what I said:
"So any discussion with these people, and them saying they’re an outlier, and they’re maintaining that society has to dictate what counts as bioethics, has no understanding of Deep Ecology. And there’s a very important reason for this, ok. Because these people cannot see the forest for the trees, ok? They have no access to their heart. They have taken the key and thrown it out, and they have no empathic [capacity].... anyone who has had that experience, the deep reverence for all of life, the automaticity of awareness that come from the value in that. You have to live that. But if you have no heart intelligence, and you ‘need answers’, and you want to ‘solve the problem’, you are going to sit on an ethics board and look at the relevance to society and ‘how is this exploitable?’ You know, you have lost the plot already. "
I would say that in your expression of this, as evidenced by the phrases you used above which I quoted, I think you misunderstood the folly of a single-minded focus on the technology as somehow leading you to 'solve' what you see as a pandora's box problem.
I can tell you this: you will never find your way 'out' of that box with single minded focus. That is itself the illusion of the mind control doing its best work, as intended.
You will need to integrate the masculine skillset of single-minded focus with the feminine capacity for empathic awareness of both your own and others' felt experiences in order to form a unified organic compass from which to navigate a pathway 'out' of the mind control. If that is truly what you seek.
This is what I have emphasized from the beginning of trying to discuss this here, and why it is SO hard to reach people, because the mind control itself, the cultural conditioning that is the bulk of the mind control -- which is ingrained misogyny and dismissive of any kind of integrated divine masculine and divine feminine way of being in the world -- is what I have found to be essential to a healing path back to wholeness.
Its why I include the 'hopi prophecy rock' glyph here in the start of my reply to you.
Those people knew this truth since way back when. And STILL people are not listening even with "the threat of AI", as you put it, right in our faces now. Stand by your corn! Walk the organic flow! You will NOT find answers in the technology, set that broken path down!
So you can go ahead and dismiss what I said above as not relevant or 'not in the spirit of your thread', as you are right, it is obviously not. It is NOT the technology path, at all. The sole focus on technology is what created the mind control mess.
And it is not the path that will lead to solutions or explanations or constructive healing for humans.
The understanding of mind control from a purely technological 'research' path will only lead you to more misery and woe. I know another well known public MK survivor who took this route and it clearly does not go well.
An integrated, empathic approach, with both the capacity to be masculine in focus and also feminine in scope will be the pathway to a sustainable solution.
I will continue to 'derail' your thread to point this truth out because the mistake you are making to dismiss me and demand single minded focus on technology by 'brilliant minds' (your subtle derision unmasked) is not one that people interested in understanding and more importantly healing from mind control can afford to make.
I would suggest to you to use my repost of your own quotes as a divine mirror of introspection to understand that maybe you have some arenas for self growth in which to see your own truncated view as obscuring the more obvious wholistic path to healing. Look at your own mind control artefacts, they are laid bare in your own words! The 'devices' are staring right at you.
You were both rude and dismissive of me and frankly that behavior has no place in navigating mind control. It is itself an artefact of the misogyny programs of mind control. Look there, look with your heart, and then begin to navigate your 'research' into the 'tech.' All the artifacts *you* personally CAN and WILL, in the scope and capability of one individual human being, ever need to identify, locate, remove and repair are located WITHIN YOURSELF. You have everything you need to heal inside yourself already. An outward focus on errata controlled by others and out of your reach is only the deceptive distraction of an imposter spirit tricking you into its own mindspace of control which will keep you lost from your own healing. Your own healing is all you or any one of us needs to do.
I'm sorry I was not rude to you at all. [I've touched a nerve by accident.] Your perspective is noted in hundreds of threads. This is my thread, a rare thing for me to begin with and has a singular focus for a reason [and can be focused and does not need to blanket statement all aspects of mind control.]. It does not reflect on my studies of other aspects of mind control. Please move your debate to an appropriate thread.
Artemesia
4th February 2025, 15:43
Ok thanks for the apology, I appreciate that. Its not a debate though. The reality is humans cannot survive without a masculine feminine balance, its not nature, its not us. The ‘technology’ source for the problem is rooted in splitting that.
All the best,
Artemesia
Delight
4th February 2025, 15:56
Fyi...
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Delight
5th February 2025, 16:20
Fyi
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Art Bell and Nick Begich - HAARP 1990's
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JackMcThorn
5th February 2025, 19:58
National Telecommunications and Information Administration
United States Frequencies Allocation - The Radio Spectrum [Hasn't been updated since 2oo3 and I cannot source another copy.]
Full Spectrum .pdf:
https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/2003-allochrt.pdf
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JackMcThorn
7th February 2025, 20:27
Wifi - transmits up to 1 watt.
Cellular - transmits up to 2 watts - sometimes at a distance to 3 watts.
The human brain operates on average around 2o watts.
Noted for future discovery.
JackMcThorn
9th February 2025, 23:19
Why is a machine to person electric wireless connection of mind control so dangerous?
Think that you can see the thoughts, images, words, hear what is being heard and see what is being seen. All at the merry low wattage of conventional digital devices.
During 9/11 tptb said terrorist cells were operating without conventional means of traceable communication. That narrative died without any explanation. Do you remember?
If you skip the analog methods of mind control - the media, the written or spoken word, visual or audible transmission - you have a tool by which to persuade which lacks some traceability. But does it? Mobile phones, tablets, and pc's are all traceable. The one that isn't is radio. I had accidently turned on a guitar amp with the cord in the amp but not in the guitar. This created a sort of antenna and I listened to a cell phone conversation through the amp speaker. There is so much wireless communication going on right now it is literally amazing.
What can you do if you could pierce the silence of the mind?
1. Close a business deal. A large multinational acquisition that is being held up by a few decision-makers on the fence. To be a fly on that meeting's wall.
a. Or something smaller like a car deal.
b. Or prevent a salesman from closing a certain deal.
2. Reward and punishment based on reasons of the mind intruder.
3. Government - motivate a few minds to get a bill passed into law
a. motivate a President to move toward military action when this decision is unpopular.
b. change policy or regulations
c. cover up bad actions
d. leniency in the law or severity
e. Or impressing on the minds of voters - group action vs. individual action - Brexit had some buyer's remorse which was a little weird.
4. Terror - minimize traceability in conducting these actions
a. Counter-terror activities
5. Intelligence - be somewhere impossible to penetrate with actual officers - Think of the Stuxnet worm that attacked Iran in 2oo7.
a. data acquisition without a physical machine breach.
6. Sex - closing a deal that would otherwise not have happened - otherwise use your imagination
7. Blackmail - Doxing - Extortion
8. Reversing punishment or reward
9. Anything to do with money.
a. Gaining funds, losing funds.
b. Gaining advantages in stock markets
c. Gaining advantages in customer base
b. Gambling
10. Hurting people psychologically or physically - impressing mental illness or pain upon them
11. Convincing people of doing or not doing an action through reason or repetition
Think of the worst possible things in this situation and you are probably right. Not to say some good could come from it, but it is probably the bad that will prevail.
In any event; personal Liberty is at stake here.
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