Pineal Gland

[witchy1]

I thought this tiny pea sized gland (that is alluded to in many posts) deserved a thread of its own.

I came across an excellent article on the Pineal gland that describes just how long humanity has known about its amazing properties and also provides a resource for us that describes how to activate it. Many will no doubt be aware of this information, for those that do not...... From the article - (cut and pasted bits and pieces):

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The pineal gland is bio-luminescent and sensitive to light.

Awakening this gland can speed up our learning, improve our memory ability, enhance our intuition, wisdom and creativity, trigger our psychic healing abilities and experience bliss.

The Pineal Gland resonates to the frequency of the B tone, musically. It emits a violet or white color (frequency) and thus is stimulated by these colors or frequencies. Therefore, violet (and purple and indigo) crystals (e.g. Amethyst, Charoite, Dumortierite, Purple Lepidolite, etc.) and clear/translucent crystals (e.g. Opal Aura Quartz, Clear Quartz, Herkimer Quartz, Selenite, etc.) greatly stimulate this gland and help to open it if it is closed.

Saying the word or thinking the word ‘Love’ from the heart activates this gland as well. If you are saying the word out loud use a drawn out pitch until you feel it resonate within your brain. When we say the meditative word AH.. or God, Buhdda, Allah, Jehovah, Krishna, Shiva, Ra etc… we are saying this eternal word that stimulates the pineal and connects us with all that is.


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The pineal gland is shaped like a tiny pine cone, hence its name. The symbol of the pineal gland is the pine cone.

It is so revered by the Vatican that a special Vatican court was built called the ‘Court of the Pine Cone’ where the world’s largest pineal gland symbol is on display! The symbol is also found on the staff of the Pope and the Egyptian god Osiris.


http://www.cuttingedge.org/articles/cone6.jpg
Next to the Vatican Museums is a large courtyard called the Courtyard of the Pine because of the enormous bronze pine cone situated in it. It isn’t a statue.

Apparently it dates from around the 1st century BC and was likely to have been used as a fountain in the baths of Agrippa which stood just behind the Pantheon.


It was moved in the early Middle Ages and placed in front of the original Basilica of St. Peter built by the Emperor Constantine where it was used as a fountain.

The bronze pine cone is one of only a handful of spolia preserved from the original St. Peter’s.

http://www.traveljournals.net/pictures/l/15/156093-famous-pinecone-statue-created-in-the-1st-century-in-the-courtyard-of-the-vatican-museum-rome-italy.jpg


http://www.cuttingedge.org/articles/cone7.jpgThis is a picture of candles used in Catholic masses. This is typical in Roman Catholic services and ornaments.

http://www.michaeljaco.com/2010/07/pineal-gland-and-intuition/


Here is an interesting article from the web site Energy Fanatics (http://energyfanatics.com/2009/10/28/pineal-gland-gateway-higher-dimensions/) on the subject.

"...The secrets of the pineal gland lies within its interior. The pineal gland looks like a pine cone from the outside, but if we cut it open and look inside, it looks somewhat similar to an eye. Its interior wall is filled with rods and cones similar to the retina in our eyes....

The pineal gland is one of the smallest glands in the body but has more blood flow per a cubic volume than any other gland. It also has one of the highest concentration of energy and is filled with specialized water. ...."

[AlkaMyst]

Thanks witchy1, great info for those new to this...... have lots of material on this. The pineal gland is what people call the 3rd eye and has been proven medically to have a lens and a retina.....it it the most sacred part of the body and if one really understands it's benefits then one really comes into what many call true esoteric knowledge. By the way, it is the gland that activates the visions when one takes hallucinogens....the same visions that can be achieved through meditations by activating the third eye chakra!

Just though I add my 2 cents. :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

[Nortreb]

Thanks also Witchy1 for this post. It is important at this time. I will add a peanut of information:
The Pineal Gland becomes CALCIFIED due to the Standard American Diet. Meat, dairy products, and refined starches all break down into caustic and corrosive acids that cause calcification of the Pineal Gland. When the Pineal Gland becomes calcified and the secretory duct becomes obstructed, Melatonin cannot be secreted into the bloodstream. Nor can Serotonin.

Peace an

[witchy1]

Hence the importance of eliminating flouride from the diet, including toothpaste. The pineal apparently concentrates this poison specifically.

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Studies done mostly with birds strongly suggest that the pineal gland is a center for navigation. Scientists believe that the pineal body is a magnetoreceptor, capable of monitoring magnetic fields, and helping to align the body in space. Changing the direction of magnetic fields around the heads of birds alters their ability to orient.

Electromagnetic fields (EMF) suppress the activity of the pineal gland and reduce melatonin production. EMF activity therefore disrupts the bodies circadian rhythms.

In lower vertebrates, the pineal gland has an eye like structure and it functions as a light receptor. The pineal gland may be the evolutionary forerunner of the modern eye. It is located within the third ventricle. It is large in children, but shrinks at puberty. It appears to play a major role in sexual development, hibernation in animals, metabolism, and seasonal breeding. In humans it affects circadian rhythms, sleep patterns (melatonin levels increase at night), and is implicated in seasonal affective disorder. The abundant melatonin levels in children is believed to inhibit sexual development. When puberty arrives, melatonin production is reduced
http://higherbalance.wordpress.com/2009/02/21/keep-the-pineal-gland-operating-and-you-wont-grow-old-you-will-always-be-young/

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The frequencies that ELF AC systems use are very close to the natural brain rhythms of cerebrate creatures such as man. The pineal gland is the principal structure in the brain that is directly sensitive to the earth's magnetic field.

As a result it functions abnormally when exposed to abnormal fields close to its own. Because the pineal gland produces a host of psychoactive chemicals (such as melatonin, dopamine, serotonin and others) its abnormal functioning can cause neurological and behavioural problems.

http://www.geomancygroup.org/geopathic%20stress/richard_gs_03.htm

[Rocketman]

Fluoridated water causes impairment of pineal gland function: http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pineal/

Sunlight exposure mitigates fluoride damage to the pineal gland: http://www.naturalnews.com/026364_fluoride_pineal_gland_sodium.html

[Nortreb]

Thanks alot for this, Rocketman! This adds a piece to the puzzle fo the push to avoid the sun and wear sunglasses.

Peace to you.

Fluoridated water causes impairment of pineal gland function: http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pineal/

Sunlight exposure mitigates fluoride damage to the pineal gland: http://www.naturalnews.com/026364_fluoride_pineal_gland_sodium.html

[plumr2007]

Thanks for this thread witchy. I read once that ancient civilizations believed that the pineal gland was our means to see and communicate with God and that our rulers placed the moon in its position to block that vibrational tone and frequency to keep us separate from God and under their control.

[Gajanana]

Thank you a thousand times over... I knew most of this, but a penny just dropped (fort knox really). When I was given my spiritual name (6 years ago)- Gajanana, I was told to use it as a mantra and that it was for my prtection. I now understand why... the vibration of the sound. I'm telling myself "DUH!!" :o :hug: :peace:

[Connecting with Sauce]

I read in thecodetothematrix e-book that the best thing for the pineal gland and brain health is Gotu Kola.

[divine_moments_of_truth]

The pineal is extraordinary, I've smoked the DMT it excretes but hope to activate it in the way you described.

[9eagle9]

Saying the word or thinking the word ‘Love’ from the heart activates this gland as well. If you are saying the word out loud use a drawn out pitch until you feel it resonate within your brain. When we say the meditative word AH.. or God, Buhdda, Allah, Jehovah, Krishna, Shiva, Ra etc… we are saying this eternal word that stimulates the pineal and connects us with all that is.

This is funny. I was reading your post and got to this part and just starting singing' love.' The cats all jumped up and stared at me. Then sat back and started twitching and rearranging themselves .After a minute they calmed down, crept closer and gathered round staring at me on full cat alert waiting for me to do it again. Then I started singing something a little more mundane "bad company'. The all got the' cat bored' look on their face till I started singing love again. Now they are waiting for me to do it again.

[modwiz]

Thanks also Witchy1 for this post. It is important at this time. I will add a peanut of information:
The Pineal Gland becomes CALCIFIED due to the Standard American Diet. Meat, dairy products, and refined starches all break down into caustic and corrosive acids that cause calcification of the Pineal Gland. When the Pineal Gland becomes calcified and the secretory duct becomes obstructed, Melatonin cannot be secreted into the bloodstream. Nor can Serotonin.

Peace an

Standard American Diet = SAD

[Arrowwind]

Fluoridated water causes impairment of pineal gland function: http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pineal/

Sunlight exposure mitigates fluoride damage to the pineal gland: http://www.naturalnews.com/026364_fluoride_pineal_gland_sodium.html

Supplementing with Lugol's iodine will displace the fluroide from the pineal gland. Fluoride attaches to the gland because it is similar in structure to iodine, both being halogens, along with bromide. It is iodine that should be there in the gland. If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then fluroide will attach. This is one of the many reasons we are not educated to the use or ingestion of iodine and why iodine was taken out of bread products and replaced with bromide, a totally worthless substance for the body.... its all part of the campaign to dumb us down.

[edina]

Supplementing with Lugol's iodine will displace the fluroide from the pineal gland. Fluoride attaches to the gland because it is similar in structure to iodine, both being halogens, along with bromide. It is iodine that should be there in the gland. If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then fluroide will attach. This is one of the many reasons we are not educated to the use or ingestion of iodine and why iodine was taken out of bread products and replaced with bromide, a totally worthless substance for the body.... its all part of the campaign to dumb us down.


Thanks Arrowwind, I have been using the Lugol's because I was internally led to this, and had not known about this connection to the pineal. Iodine has so many positive affects on our bodies. A clean pineal may be as important as a pure heart....

[9eagle9]

COINCIDENTALLY....(Lol) Lugols the last time I checked cannot be easily purchased in the US like it used to. At least not here in Michigan. Granted I haven't checked in a while since I just give up and order from Canada. I've poked around to get a MD to write me a script for it and they won't even though its not a medicine or pharmaceutical per say.



Supplementing with Lugol's iodine will displace the fluroide from the pineal gland. Fluoride attaches to the gland because it is similar in structure to iodine, both being halogens, along with bromide. It is iodine that should be there in the gland. If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then fluroide will attach. This is one of the many reasons we are not educated to the use or ingestion of iodine and why iodine was taken out of bread products and replaced with bromide, a totally worthless substance for the body.... its all part of the campaign to dumb us down.

[TWINNICK]

G'day, I went looking and asked around my local area in health food shops and was told by some it is dangerous LOL.

But some others told me that you can buy iodized salt.. so I got me some.

One bloke told me seaweed or kelp was good for iodine....so I got me some of that as well, 3-4 tabs a day, have run out now , have to get some more.

No shortage of sunlight here at the moment LOL it was 42 deg c here today.

..Nick..

[aikya]

Thanks everyone for all this information. It's filled out my understanding of the importance of this gland.

You can also stimulate the reflexology point for the pineal gland. It's on the inside of the big toe - diagram here:
http://www.squidoo.com/5-power-points-in-reflexology

It's free and you will always have it with you!

[Arrowwind]

You can purchase lugols iodine at a site called crows google crows iodine
You need the 5% solution for oral intake.. 2% is better for topical

But I purchase my iodine from Ecuador. I purchase the 15% solution and cut it to make 3 one ounce bottles of 5%. It is much more cost effective this way! I also like supporting this company, who was run out of the country for curing cancer, and th owner, I think still sits in jail. His wife is a naturopath and she is running the company last time I checked. In the literature you will find that 7% is often recommended but I have found that the 5% does all I need it to.
http://www.herbhealers.com/store/

for further info on lugols Iodine visit my blog and serach Iodine and there are a number of articles there. To orally supplement there is a learning curve, and if you are hypothryoid it could cure your problem. You will need thyroid levels checked as you go about it, because your thyroid medicine will end up needing to be reduced. It can prevent and in some cases cure breast cancer.
www.healthsalon.org (http://www.healthsalon.org)

[pinkfrost]

if i look back on my "alternative lifestyle" i believe it was "activation of my pineal gland" that i fell into the whole that is fluoride. i already try to incorporate some of things you suggest witchy...but look forward to addressing the B tone you suggested. it's an inspiring subject, me thinks.

[passiglight]

Hi folks,,

Vit C Vit D3 and Melatonin supplements help as well i believe

[witchy1]

Supplementing with Lugol's iodine will displace the fluroide from the pineal gland. Fluoride attaches to the gland because it is similar in structure to iodine, both being halogens, along with bromide. It is iodine that should be there in the gland. If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then fluroide will attach. This is one of the many reasons we are not educated to the use or ingestion of iodine and why iodine was taken out of bread products and replaced with bromide, a totally worthless substance for the body.... its all part of the campaign to dumb us down.

Hi all, please be aware to exercise some caution with self administration of iodine. It can result in "iodine goitre" (as opposed to goitre resutling from insufficient iodine) and Iodine excess can also cause thyroid underactivity, because large amounts of iodine block the thyroid's ability to make hormones. Of course there is Thorotoxicosis that can lead to a Thyroid Storm with a mortality rate of only 50% http://www.surgical-tutor.org.uk/def...osis.htm~right (http://www.surgical-tutor.org.uk/default-home.htm?system/hnep/thyrotoxicosis.htm~right). I have nursed a patient with this - pretty scary stuff

I do have a certain well earned respect for iodine and its not something we should be taking without proper caution and preferrably not without serum levels being initially taken.

Thanks all

[witchy1]

All due respect Arrowwind - I understand that Flouride does accumulate in the pineal glad however there appears to be little evidence to support Iodine as being able to displace it.

From this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10692-Too-much-fluoride-in-the-water-government-says.&p=91920#post91920

The following article explains why iodine cannot displace fluoride, chlorine or bromine:

http://www.palett.co.uk/energiodine.html (http://www.palett.co.uk/energiodine.html)

The mechanism behind "halogen displacement" was probably best described by J.C. Jarvis, M.D. ( Folk Medicine, Henry Holt & Co., 1958, HB, p. 136), who wrote:
"The clinical activity of any one of these four halogens is in inverse proportion to its atomic weight.

This means that any one of the four can displace the element with a higher atomic weight, but cannot displace an element with a lower atomic weight.

For example, fluorine can displace chlorine, bromine and iodine because fluorine has a lower atomic weight than the other three.
Similarly, chlorine can displace bromine and iodine because they both have a higher atomic weight.
Likewise, bromine can displace iodine from the body because iodine has a higher atomic weight.
But a reverse order is not possible."

The atomic weights are:
Fluorine 18.99
Chlorine 35.45
Bromine 79.90
Iodine 126.70

Therefore, any "halogen detox" symptoms one experiences with iodine are likely to be either from the iodine killing off bacteria, pathogens and/or viruses, and consequently the liver, etc, having to deal with this toxic dump. Or it could also be from mercury being mobilised in the body.

Mercury has a heavier atomic weight than iodine (200.59 to be exact), so maybe this is why iodine can displace it. Not sure if it forms to become mercury Iodide (http://curezone.com/c/?http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962&q=579) if iodiDe is present (Here is interesting link about mercury iodide, presenting even more interesting implications for thyroid http://www.contech.com/Mercuric_Iodide_Detectors.htm). (http://www.contech.com/Mercuric_Iodide_Detectors.htm).)

Trust this assist in making informed decisions - Bit off Topic, sorry

[The One]

For each important subtle centre in the body there is at equivalent gross manifestation. With ajna chakra the physica equivalent is the pineal gland, which has long baffled doctors anc scientists as to it precise function. For more than 2000 years the pineal gland has been the subject of intense philosophical speculation. Now however, in the light of the most recent medical discoveries there is no doubt about the role the pineal gland plays in the psychic faculties of man. Of all the organs in the body, no other organ has been subject to as many changes and developments in the course of evolution as the pineal gland. Research on fossil~ from previous eras have revealed it acted as a 3rd physical ey which was sensitive to light and dark. This is evident in extinc species such as the brontosauras and other ancient amphibiat vertebrates. Even in the lower animals of today such as the frol the pineal gland senses light. In the course of evolution fron reptiles to birds, to animals and finally to man the eight sensor cells of the pineal have been replaced by a much more functionalll intricate cell (parenchyma cell), and in the highest vertebrates such as man no light receptive cells remain in the pineal gland.The pineal gland is to be found buried nearly in the centre of the brain of any mammal. It is a white structure shaped like pine cone. In man it is roughly long and weighs about 100 mgm It is the only unpaired organ in the brain. After puberty this gland hardens by a process of calcification which does not affect its functioning.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.beezone.com/AjnaChakra/chapter_2.htm&ei=AR1ITaXSHNXF4gaw4biCBg&sa=X&oi=unauthorizedredirect&ct=targetlink&ust=1296573449471883&usg=AFQjCNEiint_gS1RPrzrhc8HA-SRPkfGFQ

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhyansanjivani.org%2Fpineal_gland_chakra.asp&ei=7hxITeinEc6JhQe4z7GnBQ&usg=AFQjCNEQNIjIWDKQp0K9BplA0J0aVRoK8g

[Setras]

Hi all, please be aware to exercise some caution with self administration of iodine. It can result in "iodine goitre" (as opposed to goitre resutling from insufficient iodine) and Iodine excess can also cause thyroid underactivity, because large amounts of iodine block the thyroid's ability to make hormones. Of course there is Thorotoxicosis that can lead to a Thyroid Storm with a mortality rate of only 50% http://www.surgical-tutor.org.uk/def...osis.htm~right (http://www.surgical-tutor.org.uk/default-home.htm?system/hnep/thyrotoxicosis.htm~right). I have nursed a patient with this - pretty scary stuff

I do have a certain well earned respect for iodine and its not something we should be taking without proper caution and preferrably not without serum levels being initially taken.

Thanks all

I can not agree more with this, My mother in the 80s had problem with an under active thyroid. The local hospital decided to use radioactive Iodine to treat the problem. However the treatment was conducted just before Chernobyl blew and sent a cloud of radioactive particles including Iodine over Europe 2, years later Bone marrow cancer and elevated radio iodine in the bones.....died in 1994. Please be carefull with iodine

Flourine is the most active element and no amount of iodine will replace it. It is so active that as a free gas it will explode or ignite on contact with hydrogen (in the dark, other halogens require light to start the reaction such as H and Cl need UV light). I think one of the only ways is to use water that is not flouridated and toothpaste that has no flouride. You need to flush the system in order to purge the flouride. Calcification is a problem for the pineal gland, however I have been looking at the actions of Vit K2mk4. is anybody using suppliments of this, I have switched to organic butters as they are ment to contain this, but have found that I have had no deteration of psychic abilities, Fortunately I found at an early age I could not tolerate toothpaste, it burnt my cheek lining and gums, I switched to the old tooth powders used in early part of the 20th century which are flourde free. I filter all of my water and asked my provider whether they are flouridating and they are not....

A product from Norway Rat Fish oil is said to be good for the Pineal gland, does anybody use this?

[vibrations]

What if we focus not only on phisical caracteristics of pineal gland but also on energetic ones.
The medicine students are learning that pineal gland is atrophied and in reality is something which has no sense beside small hormonal activity.
Well, it looks like the pineal gland together with a pytuitarian gland is in reality a mental device which alows us to receive and emit the mind energy (thoughts). And it looks it is in a "prenatal stage" wakening up with every brain activity conected with an attempt to telephatic communication. It is also "guilty" for all the creative ideas flashing in our head.
It receives high frequency mind energy, which is than transmuted by hypothalamus to the level that we vcan understan it.
So all the ancient manifestations of the pineal gland through the art etc is some kind of reminder of it's importance. In India they call it third eye and when you dissect it you can see the same kind of receptors also found in the eye, just that this ones are sensitive on higher frquencies.

[witchy1]

A product from Norway Rat Fish oil is said to be good for the Pineal gland, does anybody use this?
There was some discussion on this very subject following the pete peterson interview. It is worth a look.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4417-The-Saga-of-Dr.-Pete-Peterson&highlight=rat+fish+oil

[Arrowwind]

[I can not agree more with this, My mother in the 80s had problem with an under active thyroid. The local hospital decided to use radioactive Iodine to treat the problem. However the treatment was conducted just before Chernobyl blew and sent a cloud of radioactive particles including Iodine over Europe 2, years later Bone marrow cancer and elevated radio iodine in the bones.....died in 1994. Please be carefull with iodine

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What you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Radio active iodine will cause cancer, iodine does not. When radioactivity is released there is radio active iodine present.To prevent radiation poisoning to the thyroid potassium iodide is presccribed... thats the same a lugols iodine and it is ancient knowledge and application for all military near or using radio active materials. They use radio active iodine to kill thyroid tissue when it is hyperactive, not hypoactive.

Witchy1 - I wonder if your patient was on amiodarone, which can cause amiodarone-induced thyrotoxicosis, one of the things that needs to be watched out for with this drug... it is a very dangerous drug and a toxic application of iodine and this article explains it all if you care to look at it.
http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/pdfs/IOD07.pdf (http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/pdfs/IOD07.pdf)

I read you're link provided and I found it interesting that lugols iodine is part of the treatment for this storm. Here is a quote from the link

Thyroid storm


Uncommon life-threatening exacerbation of thyrotoxicosis
Has a mortality of 50%
Precipitating factors


Thyroid surgery
Radioiodine
Withdrawal of antithyroid drugs
Iodinated contrast agents
Acute illness (e.g. stoke, infection, trauma)
Clinical features


Severe thyrotoxicosis
Fever
Delirium
Seizure or coma
Jaundice
Treatment


Propylthiouracil 600mg loading dose
Lugol's iodine at least one hour later
Beta-blocker
Supportive measures
Treatment of precipitating cause
In japan the people there if still on a traditional japanese diet, eat an average of 12.5 mg of iodine a day. Breast cancer is very rare there. When Japanese women come to the US and adopt a S.A.D. diet their breast cancer rates equal US women.

12.5. mg. The typical US person gets 0.05 to 2mg a day. 0.5 is what is found in iodized salt for a serving.

I have known several people who have reduced their thryoid medication or eliminated it by using lugols iodine. If you have thyroid issues you must supplement with the assist of a doctor... but granted many people do not. You need your thyroid hormone levels checked at 6 weeks of supplementation because you will likely need your meds reduced.

A few people have difficulty in their metabolic pathways with iodine and they are not good candidates for supplementation. A skin rash with supplementing is not necessarily an allergic reaction but a bromide detox, as bromide has an affinity for skin tissues and it will come out the skin. The rash goes after a while.

Most people know fairly soon in life if they have an allergy to iodine and they should not supplement.

I use to have thryoid cysts and I eliminated them with supplementation of lugols iodine, even after my thryoid specialist said the would never go away. He was wrong.

I eliminated fibrocystic breast disease with iodine. Fibrocystic breast disease is a factor for increased risk of breast cancer.

I ve seen several cases of sebaious cysts cured with topical applications of lugols

I have cured urinary tract infections with it including one case of interstitial cystitis.

No one should supplement with iodine without understanding what they are doing.
I have about 10 articles on it on my blog. www.healthsalon.org (http://www.healthsalon.org) just search iodine.

If there is thyroid disease seek an iodine literate doctor, one who knows how to supplement with it.

I recently did an interview with Dr Alexander Haskell who treats Hashimotos dieasee with iodine as part of the protocol and he has excellent results. He has a book on the topic and you can view many of the chapers on amazon and there is enough info to get the gist of what he is doing. Hashimotos no less with iodine!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Dr.+alexander+haskell&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3ADr.+alexander+haskell&ajr=3 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Dr.+alexander+haskell&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3ADr.+alexander+haskell&ajr=3)

Please be aware that the medical community has greatly deceived us. There is little that they do in medicine that is right... including iodine. They are out to get us and control us, disempower us make us chronically ill, so we spend our lifes savings on trying to save our sorry hides. It is no different when it comes to iodine and thyroid disease. I hope some of you will take the time to learn about this most serious topic. Hypothyroidism is an epidemic in this country! and the cure is ignored and blackballed.

[modwiz]

[I can not agree more with this, My mother in the 80s had problem with an under active thyroid. The local hospital decided to use radioactive Iodine to treat the problem. However the treatment was conducted just before Chernobyl blew and sent a cloud of radioactive particles including Iodine over Europe 2, years later Bone marrow cancer and elevated radio iodine in the bones.....died in 1994. Please be carefull with iodine

?


What you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Radio active iodine will cause cancer, iodine does not. When radioactivity is relese there is radio active iodine present.To prevent radiation poisoning to the thyroid potassium iodide is presccribed... thats the same a lugols iodine and it is ancient knowledge and application for all military near or using radio active materials. They use radio active iodine to kill thyroid tissue when it is hyperactive, not hypoactive.

Witchy1 - I wonder if your patient was on amiodarone, which can cause amiodarone-induced thyrotoxicosis, one of the things that needs to be watched out for with this drug... it is a very dangerous drug and a toxic application of iodine and this article explains it all if you care to look at it.
http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/pdfs/IOD07.pdf (http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/pdfs/IOD07.pdf)

I read you're link provided and I found it interesting that lugols iodine is part of the treatment for this storm. Here is a quote from the link

Thyroid storm


Uncommon life-threatening exacerbation of thyrotoxicosis
Has a mortality of 50%
Precipitating factors


Thyroid surgery
Radioiodine
Withdrawal of antithyroid drugs
Iodinated contrast agents
Acute illness (e.g. stoke, infection, trauma)
Clinical features


Severe thyrotoxicosis
Fever
Delirium
Seizure or coma
Jaundice
Treatment


Propylthiouracil 600mg loading dose
Lugol's iodine at least one hour later
Beta-blocker
Supportive measures
Treatment of precipitating cause
In japan the people there if still on a traditional japanese diet, eat an average of 12.5 mg of iodine a day. Breast cancer is very rare there. When Japanese women come to the US and adopt a S.A.D. diet their breast cancer rates equal US women.

12.5. mg. The typical US person gets 0.05 to 2mg a day. 0.5 is what is found in iodized salt for a serving.

I have known several people who have reduced their thryoid medication or eliminated it by using lugols iodine. If you have thyroid issues you must supplement with the assist of a doctor... but granted many people do not. You need your thyroid hormone levels checked at 6 weeks of supplementation because you will likely need your meds reduced.

A few people have difficulty in their metabolic pathways with iodine and they are not good candidates for supplementation. A skin rash with supplementing is not necessarily an allergic reaction but a bromide detox, as bromide has an affinity for skin tissues and it will come out the skin. The rash goes after a while.

Most people know fairly soon in life if they have an allergy to iodine and they should not supplement.

I use to have thryoid cysts and I eliminated them with supplementation of lugols iodine, even after my thryoid specialist said the would never go away. He was wrong.

I eliminated fibrocystic breast disease with iodine. Fibrocystic breast disease is a factor for increased risk of breast cancer.

I ve seen several cases of sebaious cysts cured with topical applications of lugols

I have cured urinary tract infections with it including one case of interstitial cystitis.

No one should supplement with iodine without understanding what they are doing.
I have about 10 articles on it on my blog. www.healthsalon.org (http://www.healthsalon.org) just search iodine.

If there is thyroid disease seek an iodine literate doctor, one who knows how to supplement with it.

I recently did an interview with Dr Alexander Haskell who treats Hashimotos dieasee with iodine as part of the protocol and he has excellent results. His has a book on and you can view many of the chapers on amazon. Hashimotos no less with iodine!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Dr.+alexander+haskell&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3ADr.+alexander+haskell&ajr=3 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Dr.+alexander+haskell&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3ADr.+alexander+haskell&ajr=3)

Please be aware that the medical community has greatly deceived us. There is little that they do in medicine that is right... including iodine. They are out to get us and control us, disempower us make us chronically ill, so we spend our lifes savings on trying to save our sorry hides. It is no different when it comes to iodine and thyroid disease. I hope some of you will take the time to learn about this most serious topic. Hypothyroidism is an epidemic in this country! and the cure is ignored and blackballed.

Very informative post, thank you. I know I read on the web that Lugol's solition has been banned in the USA by the FDA. Do you know the facts on this? I would like to obtain some as it is also good for making suspect water safe..
As I write this I am eating my usual grain and vegetable/legume mix with about 2 tablespoons of dulse flakes for iodine. I love sea vegetables.

[witchy1]

I dont belive it....... arrggghhh I just did this great post with lots of links, then downloaded the spellchecker and now its all gone....... hmph. So this one will be much briefer.

I might start a thread for Iodine, we may have veered off topic a bit. I will put up an easy way to see if you are iodine deficient. However as a health professional I must advocate serum levels as first port of call. Also, just a FYI - some people are allergic to iodine. Always exercise caution with it.

Lugols certainly has its place, Arrowwind makes valid points regarding its use.

However I am not yet convinced it will displace flouride on the pineal gland (see above post). I have to go with the chemistry on this. There are many places on the internet saying it will, but I cannot find one reference to validate the statement. Maybe its an urban legend? I dont know - however if anyone at all has a reference I would be delighted to read it.

Setras, I was sad to read about your Mum. I hope that you and your family are recovering well. I know time doesn't diminish the loss from your life:hug:

[gigawatt]

[/COLOR]
Thanks alot for this, Rocketman! This adds a piece to the puzzle fo the push to avoid the sun and wear sunglasses.

Peace to you.

Fluoridated water causes impairment of pineal gland function: http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pineal/

Sunlight exposure mitigates fluoride damage to the pineal gland: http://www.naturalnews.com/026364_fluoride_pineal_gland_sodium.html

You want to get MORE sun and not avoid it

Frequent exposure to outdoor sunshine, 20 minutes or so at a time, will help stimulate a fluoride calcified pineal gland. Just make sure you take off your hat. This is more important than most realize, because the pineal gland affects so much other enzyme and endocrine activity, including melatonin production.

[passenger1147]

I wonder if flourosis has an affect on psychic abilities/function of the pineal gland... and if there's ways of undoing that possible damage.

[Connecting with Sauce]

I'm Alkalising my body, using Gotu Kola, using clays and super greens and spirulina daily... with Iodine and distill my water.

[Arrowwind]

I wonder if flourosis has an affect on psychic abilities/function of the pineal gland... and if there's ways of undoing that possible damage.

I would have to assume that it does. Anytime a tissue is congested with a toxic material you need to assume that it is not going to function correctly. The pineal is our doorway to psychic awareness. It also regulates all the other hormonal functionings in the body. They dont call it the master gland for nothing.

Regarding the displacement of fluroide by iodine.. I cannot say if this displacement is an active or passive event. I have read so much literature and studies on iodine I can't keep track of it all in my head and where I read what and when. I will keep my eye out for it though as it seem to be of concern.

witchy1 - the last post I wrote last night got dumped too.. so I was up past midnight trying to rewrite it. Second time around never seems to be a good as frustration sets in..

withcy1- here is my question for you. If iodine is not needed in greater amounts then what is the cause of the hypothryoid epidemic in the US and many other countries as well? What is the etiology of the disease?

Have you ever heard of hypthyroidism referred to as an epidemic? if not why not? how many does it take to be an epidemic?

I think we need to move beyond belief and look at the studies as well as the clinical facts.
The doctors who have done much of the research on iodine supplementation are Drs Abraham, Flechas, Bernstein... but there are quite a few others. The iodine movement is spreading amongst naturopaths as well as medical doctors.

Now Dr Haskell ND writes in his book how to expertly treat and cure Hasimotos disease. Part of the program includes iodine supplementation but it is not just thrown at the patient willy nilly. A very careful protocol is desiged to bring the disease under control and to heal the thyroid. Link provided in my previous post.

They have proved that excess iodine is readily dumped by the kidneys. It is very difficult to over dose to a toxic level unless there are other metabolic factors that are signficantly abnormal..which is not the case for the vast majority of people. One would have to agressively dose with iodine for a while which is unlikely. I read a case where pyroderma grangrenosa was cured with upwards of 900mg of lugols a day... I have unfortuantely helped to bury a few of these patients with conventional medicine.. such a shame.

many tissues require iodine aside from the thyroid and if you ask your doctor he will be unaware. Aside from brain tissue, most importantly the pineal, breast tissue craves iodine, ovaries and prostate and many proponents of iodine therapy are suggesting that its lack is a pre-condtioning risk factor for breast cancer. My personal doctor says she knows of some breast cancer cases cured with lugols iodine alone... although I do not think I would leave such a condition to just this single therapy.

Please note that those women who are hypothyroid are at greater risk for developing breast cancer as well as women with fibrocystic breast disease., which lugols readily cures.

I do want to stress that there is a difference between iodine, lugols iodine and the trash you purchase in the drug store that should never be taken orally. Lugols iodine is a combination of iodine and potassium iodide. Different parts of the body require one or the other. Some people have a hard time taking it orally as it is hard on a delicate stomach. For these people lugols can be applied topically with good results.

Lugols is now controlled by the FDA. It is an ingredient used to make Meth. so thats why they got on it. You can still purcahse it in 1 ounce bottles only. When i first purchased I got a 16 oucne bottle from a lab. I cant do that any longer without a doctors RX.

I purchase mine now from Ecuador at http://www.herbhealers.com/store/ (http://www.herbhealers.com/store/)
I get the 15% solution in a one ounce bottle. I dilute it with water to make 3 one ounce bottles of 5% Lugol's. It is very cost effective even with the shipping. This was an American company that was run out because they were helping people to cure cancer.

Be aware that Lugols is an important ingredient in the Hoxey formula. Some "Hoxey" formulas do not contain the lugols and they are inferior products. Some companies sell the herbal part and the iodine parts separately which is ok but both are needed.

The use of Lugols iodine should be separated from the use of vitamin c by a few hours as vitamin c will oxidize iodine and render it ineffective. If you spill lugols do not worry. Make a slurry of vitamin c and put it on the stain. It will vanish instantly.

[Eva2]

The pineal is extraordinary, I've smoked the DMT it excretes but hope to activate it in the way you described.

Ditto this. I had a truly wonderful "activation" of this gland with DMT.

[Wiley]

Amazon Sales It If Anyone's Interested In The Lugol's Solution. No I Don't Make Money Off This Link.. Lol NC Residents Aren't Allowed To Have An Amazon Affiliate Account Anyway, For Some Strange Reason. Lugol"s Iodine Solution 5% ("http://www.amazon.com/J-Crows-1-oz-Lugols-Solution/dp/B001PN3BUW)

[witchy1]

withcy1- here is my question for you. If iodine is not needed in greater amounts then what is the cause of the hypothryoid epidemic in the US and many other countries as well? What is the etiology of the disease?
Have you ever heard of hypthyroidism referred to as an epidemic? if not why not? how many does it take to be an epidemic?

Responding over at the Iodine thread so not to clog up this one and remain on topic - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13307-Iodine-Lugols-Solution

[witchy1]

Supplementing with Lugol's iodine will displace the fluroide from the pineal gland. Fluoride attaches to the gland because it is similar in structure to iodine, both being halogens, along with bromide. It is iodine that should be there in the gland. If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then fluroide will attach.

Arrowwind you have stated "with Lugol's iodine will displace fluroide from the pineal gland." There is much "opinion" supporting that theory. However there is no scientific evidece to support this that I can find and can only find verifiable evidence to the contrary.

This statement may well be correct and I am completely open to the theory plus it would prove science wrong. If you can point me to the verifiable evidence I would be most grateful

You have also stated that "If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then flouride will attach." Again happy to prove science wrong. Can you please supply the verifiable evidence.

My understanding is that flouride will DISPLACE iodine due to the halogen displacement science.

This then implies that no matter how much iodine you have in your body, and still have a flouride intake that will always displace iodine. Hence perhaps is one of the many reasons for eliminating flouride from the diet and perhaps why those on iodine supplements are not relieved of symptoms of iodine deficiency

Also my understanding is that one needs to have selenium in the diet at sufficent and correct quantities to "activate" the iodine. There is a reaction that occurs, a symbiotic relationship if you will. Therefore taking Iodine on its own may be ineffective.

I think that this is vital to mention, as if we follow the prescriptions as given above - you may well be wasting your money on taking iodine, plus it may be accumulating in the tissues and over time creating toxicity. There are some that would suggest that it does in fact accumulate in the tissues creating toxicity.
I cannot find the half life of Lugol's despite some searching! If we have a chemist here that could assit that would be great. Maybe it needs to be broken down to its basic elements first. I did find this one.

As follows:
The metabolism of iodine by an adult according to the ICRP (ICRP 1989) is that 0.3 of the initial intake is taken up by the thyroid and 20% goes to faecal excretion, the biological half times are:
blood - 0.25 days;
thyroid - 80 days;
rest of the body - 12 days.
http://www.lanl.gov/BAER-Conference/BAERCon-46p027.htm

Again I excercise caution taking any Iodine product.

I cannot say this loud enough.

[Connecting with Sauce]

As we are all interested in the PINEAL because it is the 3rd EYE key, this link on activating the 3rd eye with attached pdf book is worth a read.

http://www.resistance2010.com/forum/topics/awakening-the-third-eye-rated

[brotybro]

I have recently become interested in the pineal gland, And all the info surrounding it.

I am so impressed with the information I am getting here.

Just wanted to say thank-you for dedicating what appears to be an incredible amount of time and effort to help us.

[shybastid]

I read somewhere that MMS can "burn" the pineal glan and dull it, and can't find the source now. Anyone else read or see that? Can we get a confirmation or a denial on it? Sorry.. I should have printed it and asked when I saw it.
Thank you
I still use MMS. Sparingly.
Melatonin? I have extreme reactions to this product in pill form. That is the ONE product that when I take it,I can NOT wake from my dreams or wake up. At all.
Almost a forced interdimentional thing. I wake up more tired then going to sleep.
Without melatonin,dreams are safe and fun. And wierd. But never scary.
I use that supplement sparingly. Hope it's not related to taking MMS is why I was asking. Kinda BURNING my pineal,then REFRESHING it?
Thought I'd share.
Even in small doses.

[Lifebringer]

"Indwelling spiritual gland" Doctors on PBS special on NDE Near Death Experience, say this gland flashes like a camera flash bulb, when a person physically dies. When the patient is brought back to life, they usually say they have seen a light and were in a tunnel.

Is this our own interdemensional ascensional gate to the kingdom? According to Jesus teaching: "Least ye see with the eye, not eyes, then you shall see God.
Death is but the birth of the spirit from it's material caccoon of life experience, before passage is you live in the light and believe in God.

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What about when you give at the blood bank twice weekly?

Curious donor.

[shybastid]

Oh.. I've never taken either supplement within 30 days of each other. I have'nt taken Meletonin in over 3 years. Stuff is pretty potent to me. Strongest sleeping pill I've ever had.. So, If it's a deficency,and I'm reacting to it...then.. I'm needing more of this natual brain product.
I'm getting ready to take it again for other reasons.
Just curious if there is a counter active reaction before I take BOTH. Or an opinion.
Thanks guys.
I understand this is not medical advice. Just opinions.

[Lifebringer]

Use bicarbonated soda on your teeth. cleans and whitens.
A little dab will do ya.


Also trying that honey and bicarbonated soda to treat diseased cells, since I dont have high blood pressure. So far two days and my diverticulitis pain in the lower right center of gut, isn't as painful.
1 part baking soda
3 parts honey mixed and warm.

[golden wonder]

As a new forum user I find it difficult to follow all the threads.
I was reading this one and found it useful to many questions asked on this one.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13469-The-Pineal-Gland-and-its-decalcification

From a personal experience it's a good idea to get to know the pea in your brain, regardless..

[the_flyingboy]

very nice!

[witchy1]

Hi all, I found some information while reading posts on the ORMUS yahoo forum and thought it might be of use in regards decalcification.

DMT is produced in the pineal gland nightly and seems to be our dreaming enabler. A doctoral study in England by Jennifer Luke in the late 90's of pineal glands. 11 cadavers available in Surrey university had the pineal glands extracted and analysed as part of the doctoral thesis. They were found to contain an average of 9,000 parts per million of Floride in both the soft tissue and hard tissue parts. One gland had 21,000 parts per million. (no reference)

The Pineal gland can be decalcified with Butter Oil at a dosage of 2 tablespoons twice a day for 14 weeks. The main artery to the brain goes through the pineal gland and appears to be redeemable. This gland is the third eye and the controller of our circadium rhythm, our melatonin seratonin balance. (no reference)

I apologize that I have no reference for this information regarding the tests undertaken or the reference to the butter oil. Perhaps someone else has information in this regard. I will start a search for it regardless and edit if I find more informaton

You can purchase organic butter, put it on the stove, melt it and filter out the white casein and you have butter oil, without anything nasty!

On the queston re: Is butter oil Ghee. I worked in the NZ dairy industry and they make a fine Ghee. It is simply clarified butter. I love butter (and like to see my teeth marks in it - typical diary farmers daughter). The best butter is from 100% grass fed cows and apparently from milk gown in the spring with fast growing grass to get the best fo the x-factor - which apparently has been identified as K-2. http://www.westonaprice.org/abcs-of-nutrition/175-x-factor-is-vitamin-k2.html (http://www.westonaprice.org/abcs-of-nutrition/175-x-factor-is-vitamin-k2.html). You would think that butter alone would do the same thing??????????

In Canada the product code for Butter oil is 100-009. In Canada this also qualifies to be sold as ghee. Traditional indian ghee can be rancid butter oil that has a flavouring added. Dont use this.

Trust this assists.

(PS: I put this here because I have discovered I am somehwat terratorial - not a good trait. Feel free to c&p to the other thread as desired, I wonder if thread should be merged - Mods?????)

[Arrowwind]

My understanding after my visit to the Weston Price website is that Activator X is vitamin K2 not K1. It is found abundantly in butter.

[9eagle9]

One wonders if that's why I go through periodic fits of craving butter.

[Arrowwind]

One wonders if that's why I go through periodic fits of craving butter.

my husband says I crave bread too much.. but I say, no dear, bread is merely a butter delivery system

[witchy1]

Hi Arrowwind, typo changed. Excellent article here http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16485

On rare occassions both my boys when real little ran to the fridge, grabed the butter and ate a huge bite from it- maybe this explains it. (they had butter in their diet as well)

I love butter - preferrably like to see teeth marks in it :-) I like bread with my butter

[Budaheart]

You can also tone (find intuitively the tone that will help your pineal gland)...focus on the 3rd eye while toning...

Hugs
Barbara

[Rozzy]

edit post :cool:

[AlexanderLight]

The pineal gland is our connection to the Universal Matrix. We must become aware of this connection and start working in awareness with the Matrix. Together we can change the world.

Learn what it is and activation technique here:
http://humansarefree.com/2011/01/pineal-gland-your-connection-to.html

[omeriko]

"...The secrets of the pineal gland lies within its interior. The pineal gland looks like a pine cone from the outside, but if we cut it open and look inside, it looks somewhat similar to an eye. Its interior wall is filled with rods and cones similar to the retina in our eyes....

Hey guys,

This one is for skeptic folks like me.

A friend of mine, who is a student of medicine, overheard me talking about the Pineal Gland. When I said that the Pineal has rods and cones like the retina of the eye, he said that when he learned about the Pineal in class, they didn't tell him there were rods and cones in it.

Naturally, I told him that I'll find him a proof of that and email him, to which he had agreed (he's not as close minded as some). As I thought about it afterward, I realized I took it for granted that it's true and never spent the time to validate these claims made by David Wilcock and spiritual sites.

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland#Miscellaneous_anatomy) doesn't provide a convincing argument. It doesn't refer to the shape of the Pineal receptors (Pinealocytes). It only alludes to a similarity.


Pinealocytes in many non-mammalian vertebrates have a strong resemblance to the photoreceptor cells of the eye. Some evolutionary biologists believe that the vertebrate pineal cells share a common evolutionary ancestor with retinal cells.

This didn't convince me, and I knew it wouldn't convince my friend, so I set out to find reference of it in scientific literature.

I can only present the abstracts of the papers because the full text version costs a lot of money.

The first one (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2510798) I've found states:

The pinealocytes--the main cellular elements of the pineal organ--are polarized, displaying a (photo)receptor and an axonic effector cell pole. The receptor endings are of two main types: they bear rod-type or cone-type outer segments characterized by the presence of immunoreactive opsin-, S-antigen- and vitamin A-binding sites.

And the second (http://www.springerlink.com/content/r0841387185t6038/), while referring to the pineal of a frog, states:

The pineal organ of the frog, Rana esculenta, was studied by use of light- and electron-microscopic methods including immunoreaction against opsin. Most of the morphologically classified cone-type outer segments of the pineal photoreceptors reacted with antisera against opsin of the bovine retina that is dominated by rods. Some of the outer segments of pineal photoreceptor cells remained unstained in accord with the reference tissue, the frog retina, where generally the rods were opsin-positive and most of the cones opsin-negative.

I stopped looking after these two, they were proof enough for me.

I sent my friend an email with this information. I'm waiting for an answer.

[robert]

The pineal is extraordinary, I've smoked the DMT it excretes but hope to activate it in the way you described.

Ditto this. I had a truly wonderful "activation" of this gland with DMT.

HI, May i ask what DMT means?
Just curious.
Very interesting thread BTW, lot's of good information.
I really appreciate that.

Thank you

Robert

[robert]

As we are all interested in the PINEAL because it is the 3rd EYE key, this link on activating the 3rd eye with attached pdf book is worth a read.

http://www.resistance2010.com/forum/topics/awakening-the-third-eye-rated

Thx for the link, i'll have a very close look at it.
Much appreciated.

Robert

[Carmody]

When in my teens-early teens, I used to drink raw milk. Lots of it. Takes a few seconds to get used to it but it's pretty addicting. Not to mention fattening. These were field grazing cows. Alfalfa etc, feed.

I lived on a ley line area, next to a grave yard, which had become a Christan grave yard, next to a stream we got our water from, and in the stream was a environmentally protected Sturgeon (fish) breeding/spawning ground. The government told us to be quiet about the breeding pool (which was right at the grave yard, basically, the exact spot we pulled our water from.)

Lots of 'iron' in the water as well. After moving away...It took about 10 years for the intensity of iron to decrease in my bloodstream. It was high in monatomics, it seems. The odd dimensional creature sighting. They'd do things like get stuck inside the house, and stuff. Materialize, dematerialize, etc.

[Carmody]

The pineal is extraordinary, I've smoked the DMT it excretes but hope to activate it in the way you described.

Ditto this. I had a truly wonderful "activation" of this gland with DMT.

HI, May i ask what DMT means?
Just curious.
Very interesting thread BTW, lot's of good information.
I really appreciate that.

Thank you

Robert

http://www.rickstrassman.com/

[robert]

The pineal is extraordinary, I've smoked the DMT it excretes but hope to activate it in the way you described.

Ditto this. I had a truly wonderful "activation" of this gland with DMT.

HI, May i ask what DMT means?
Just curious.
Very interesting thread BTW, lot's of good information.
I really appreciate that.

Thank you

Robert

http://www.rickstrassman.com/

Thank you Carmody, i am looking into this, i'm the curious type!

Robert

[Carmody]

The pineal is extraordinary, I've smoked the DMT it excretes but hope to activate it in the way you described.

Ditto this. I had a truly wonderful "activation" of this gland with DMT.

HI, May i ask what DMT means?
Just curious.
Very interesting thread BTW, lot's of good information.
I really appreciate that.

Thank you

Robert

http://www.rickstrassman.com/

Thank you Carmody, i am looking into this, I'm the curious type!

Robert

watch this
http://theavalonfiles.com/secret/secure/Whos_Driving_The_Dreambus/index.html

[nearing]

The Pineal Gland becomes CALCIFIED due to the Standard American Diet. Meat, dairy products, and refined starches all break down into caustic and corrosive acids that cause calcification of the Pineal Gland.

I would like to agree with most of this statement. Yes, the Standard American Diet does contribute to the calcification of the Pineal gland. But it's not the meat and dairy products (which are full of fat-soluable vitamins that are keep your brain and Pineal gland in working condition, BTW) that are the culprits. It is the starches and sugars, all processed foods, and all of the metals and other contaminants in our water and air that do it.

[The Lawnman]

I have purchased Lugols Iodine from Dr. Helda Clark for several years now. She has since passed away, but her daughter is continuing her mother's work. This product is very pure and of good quality. Cheers

http://www.drhuldaclarksupplies.com/

[trenairio]

How does one activate this gland?

[omeriko]

How does one activate this gland?

You should really try to read the whole thread before posting, to see if your question was already answered.
In this case it was, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12511-Pineal-Gland&p=135188&viewfull=1#post135188).

I wasn't referring to one of the 'Charles' threads, but this one isn't that long.

[Shelltower]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5b-kLvppdg

David WIlcock has an interesting presentation on it in this video throughout......

[Nortreb]

How does one activate this gland?

Imagination! Seeing!

It is a right brain function.

Talking and distinguishing parts.

This is a left brain function.

[ace]

How does one activate this gland?

iowaska plant (Ayahuasca)


Ace

(I am not in any way promoting or suporting the use of Iowaska)

[humanalien]

OK. I've read through this thread and i do agree with most of it.

I do have a question though. I can accept that our governments are
putting fluoride in our drinking water and food to dumb us down and
also to calcify the pineal gland but what about the people way back
starting from adam and eve to about, lets say the 1700's.

None of these people had fluoride in their food and water, so what was
stopping them from using their pineal gland? I'm sure most, if not all
of them people even realized they had a pineal gland to begin with but
i figure that at least by chance that some of them would finally realize
that they had some kind of special powers and use them.

[nearing]

OK. I've read through this thread and i do agree with most of it.

I do have a question though. I can accept that our governments are
putting fluoride in our drinking water and food to dumb us down and
also to calcify the pineal gland but what about the people way back
starting from adam and eve to about, lets say the 1700's.

None of these people had fluoride in their food and water, so what was
stopping them from using their pineal gland? I'm sure most, if not all
of them people even realized they had a pineal gland to begin with but
i figure that at least by chance that some of them would finally realize
that they had some kind of special powers and use them.

Are we assuming they didn't use their pineal glands?

[humanalien]

I guess we really don't know the answer to that one.

[Rozzy]

I bet they used their Pineal just fine, why do you suppose that so many MSS, books and whole libraries have been banned and burned?
Way back when, people had what was known as intuition, this socalled intuition was powerful and used on an ongoing basis everyday. Now people in general are dumb and getting dumber, it is time to wake up if that is at all possible

[witchy1]

Hi Rozzy, what is MSS.

[CdnSirian]

COINCIDENTALLY....(Lol) Lugols the last time I checked cannot be easily purchased in the US like it used to. At least not here in Michigan. Granted I haven't checked in a while since I just give up and order from Canada. I've poked around to get a MD to write me a script for it and they won't even though its not a medicine or pharmaceutical per say.





Supplementing with Lugol's iodine will displace the fluroide from the pineal gland. Fluoride attaches to the gland because it is similar in structure to iodine, both being halogens, along with bromide. It is iodine that should be there in the gland. If there is insufficient iodine in the diet then fluroide will attach. This is one of the many reasons we are not educated to the use or ingestion of iodine and why iodine was taken out of bread products and replaced with bromide, a totally worthless substance for the body.... its all part of the campaign to dumb us down.


Try amazon.com

[baddbob]

Animal studies of pineal function indicate that fluoride exposure results in altered melatonin production and altered timing of sexual maturity. Whether fluoride affects pineal function in humans remains to be demonstrated. The two studies of menarcheal age in humans show the possibility of earlier menarche in some individuals exposed to fluoride, but no definitive statement can be made. Recent information on the role of the pineal organ in humans suggests that any agent that affects pineal function could affect human health in a variety of ways, including effects on sexual maturation, calcium metabolism, parathyroid function, postmenopausal osteoporosis, cancer, and psychiatric disease.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XSZQ3ixu7a4

[Unified Serenity]

The simplest way to help your pineal gland to work is to use it. Focus on grounding yourself, going within, sensing the energy around you, working with energy, and letting yourself settle there for a while. Your body will feel heavy and yet floating at the same time. As your heart and mind connect you will sense this increasing flow of energy throughout. In my work with others in soul healing, teaching the grounding methods to get them to feel the energy around and within them and creating a circuit with the earth and then doing the energetics of creation helps them to become more intune with themselves, the world, and keeps the pineal active and communicating. For most we get the inclinations as a still small voice many will call intuition.

[mahalall]

Reading Swami Muktibodhananda, Hatha Yoga Pradipika, has shined a new perspective on the pineal gland.

Is the Hindu Yogi's use of the Lingam an ancient depiction and of working the pineal gland?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingam
Many will dismiss it as some strange expression of sexuality.

Muktibodhananada asserts that "It is not a phallic symbol, but it is called Shivalinga. Shiva means absolute, ultimate, total, cosmic, or universal consciousness. Shivalingam is representative or symbol of that cosmic one. Shivalingam is not a God. It has nothing to do with ritualistic worship. It is a very ancient replica of an event which triggered man into conscious awareness and brought him from the state of apeman to man. In the depth of human consciousness and in the centre of the brain there is an unseen force, an invisible power or an invisible substance without which you are not human. It is said that the real shivalingam is made from crystal and finest consciousness resides in the shape of an illuminated shivalingam"

VVP0skierZo

Swami Muktibodhananda (1993) Hatha Yoga Pradipika. Yoga Publications Trust, Mungar, Bihar,India.

[Eagle Eye]

I have tried to concentrate all my energy to the center of the brain in a almost dark room and after 30 min of trying I had lots of images flashing on my brain and after that I saw green energy showing and fading in front of my eyes. All this lasted for 15 minutes. Did I activate it or was something else

[witchy1]

This is a cross section of the brain showing the human Pineal Gland and the eye of Horus - I think the resemblance is amazing.........

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=16792&d=1339163963&thumb=1 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=16792&d=1339163963)
http://www.encephalous.com/post/1515...-cross-section (http://www.encephalous.com/post/15153316302/eye-of-horus-and-pineal-gland-cross-section)

[nearing]

Dr. Claude Swanson on Conscious Media Network TV recently stated that there have been studies proving that if one places the south pole of a magnet over the third eye (pineal gland) for 10 minutes a day for a certain amount of time, the subject will experience increased psychic abilities.

Apparently it's in his latest book (LIFE FORCE, THE SCIENTIFIC BASIS) as well. I am waiting of fit it arrive in the mail, so I will let you know.

The table of contents from his website. (http://synchronizeduniverse.com/more_pagesVOLII.htm)

[ThePythonicCow]

Apparently it's in his latest book (LIFE FORCE, THE SCIENTIFIC BASIS) as well. I am waiting of fit it arrive in the mail, so I will let you know.I look forward to hearing your comments on this book. It looks a bit expensive, in both dollars and time (lotsa pages), so I am hesitating to get it myself, but it looks very interesting.

[evancruz1]

Great info! Thank you all!

[eileenrose]

I have remote viewed my own pineal gland.

It was green - a vibratory color....usually I associate that color with healing, but hard to say exactly what it was this time. Perhaps it was green as in fluoride toxins/body attacking phages.

And it had ragged pieces of stuff (green also...so ....my sense is fluoride toxins) attached.

I just pictured it healing and the extra fluff floating off of it (all I got).

And I started filtering my water and I stopped using fluoride toothpaste (last year). Might take awhile to detox is all.

[nearing]

Apparently it's in his latest book (LIFE FORCE, THE SCIENTIFIC BASIS) as well. I am waiting of fit it arrive in the mail, so I will let you know.I look forward to hearing your comments on this book. It looks a bit expensive, in both dollars and time (lotsa pages), so I am hesitating to get it myself, but it looks very interesting.

I know, Pau! I had to save up a little to take the plunge on this one but I had heard an intriguing interview with him by Walter Cruttendon:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/radio/shows/2006/WC101606-CSwanson.mp3

The 'torsion field' or life force, chi, prana, etc. explained by a highly credentialed physicist is just the thing I can sink my teeth into.

I will keep you in the loop!

[Youniverse]

I love this topic folks! Thank-you so much to all the contributors, many blessings!!! I picked up some new tips! Ok here goes my two cents now. I'll try to throw in some info. that hasn't already been posted here. What lead me to Project Avalon was a discussion about Fermented Ratfish or Skate Liver Oil which is supposed to be effective in decalcifying the Pineal Gland. David Wilcock uses this apparently. You can also use fermented cod liver oil for this purpose as well, but, as David Wilcock says, "Ratfish Liver Oil, even better." I order some from a company called greenpasture.org, out of Nebraska, U.S. I ordered it two weeks ago but it's probably still sitting at customs at the U.S./Canada borger, even though Nebraska is probably only a days drive away from me. Anyhew, I digress. The Pineal Gland actually contains crystals within it(according to DW) that pick up some sort of cosmic signal and forms visions we see in dreams, psychedelic drug use, etc. DMT is made by the Pineal Gland using melatonin and some other molecules, I forget which. I just finished reading DMT-The Spirit Molecule by Richard Strassman, and started a thread about it under General Discussion., so check it out if you want. It taught me alot more about the Pineal Gland and how it works. Strassman says that DMT is the only "drug" or hallucigen that the brain actively seeks out and draws in as if it craves it! More studies may be required but it appears DMT is an active agent during many kinds of spiritual/profound experiences with the divine, such as NDE's, out-of-body experience, deep meditation, and even alien abduction memories. The Pineal Gland was called "the seat of the soul" by Descartes, and to some is believed to be the actual physical part of the body where the soul leaves the body to return to it's source or creator. It seems to me the Pineal was revered by many ancient cultures for good reason. I'm trying to learn as much as I can about it.

[witchy1]

Not sure about this???

16921

Overlapping the Creation of Adam with a diagram of the human brain, one can see that the curtain surrounding the angels coincides precisely with the outline of the brain, and the position of the wisdom eye is just about the spot where God's letf hip is located.
http://godsdirectcontact.us/sm21/enews/www/123/as.htm

[Straker]

For those who haven't seen it:

http://www.egyptmysteries.org/

The section on the All-Seeing Eye relates to this thread on the Pineal Gland.

Straker

[Sunlite]

Great Thread! Thank you everyone for your contributions as I am following advice from Andrew Webber on urine therapy and distilled water to de-calcify the pineal gland.....think how life would be if we all had this gland working properly!

All the Best,

Sunlite

[Connecting with Sauce]

Dr. Claude Swanson on Conscious Media Network TV recently stated that there have been studies proving that if one places the south pole of a magnet over the third eye (pineal gland) for 10 minutes a day for a certain amount of time, the subject will experience increased psychic abilities.

Apparently it's in his latest book (LIFE FORCE, THE SCIENTIFIC BASIS) as well. I am waiting of fit it arrive in the mail, so I will let you know.

The table of contents from his website. (http://synchronizeduniverse.com/more_pagesVOLII.htm)

Could you just tape a small magnet there and go to sleep? ...Be interesting if nothing else :)



Great Thread! Thank you everyone for your contributions as I am following advice from Andrew Webber on urine therapy and distilled water to de-calcify the pineal gland.....think how life would be if we all had this gland working properly!

All the Best,

Sunlite

I'm on week number 5 now of >5Litre per day of mainly urine therapy :) based on the thread I started here on distilled water and awakening (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44959-Distilled-water-for-health-and-awakening...) My water source is a water distiller and I now add the bare minimal of organic minerals and have stopped adding in-organic salts.

[nearing]

CWSauce, if you were certain I get the poles correct, I dOnt think it could hurt. My concern would be that a small magnet migt be too weak? The Pineal is pretty deep in the brain.

[Connecting with Sauce]

CWSauce, if you were certain I get the poles correct, I dOnt think it could hurt. My concern would be that a small magnet migt be too weak? The Pineal is pretty deep in the brain.

Nearing,
I have some magnets like these...

http://www.amazon.com/Neodymium-Magnets-Coated-Magnetic-Therapy/dp/B00129I7TY

mine are smaller with a dot on the north face and I have 10.

1 is stuck to my 3rd eye with tape :)

[nearing]

CWSauce, if you were certain I get the poles correct, I dOnt think it could hurt. My concern would be that a small magnet migt be too weak? The Pineal is pretty deep in the brain.

Nearing,
I have some magnets like these...

http://www.amazon.com/Neodymium-Magnets-Coated-Magnetic-Therapy/dp/B00129I7TY

mine are smaller with a dot on the north face and I have 10.

1 is stuck to my 3rd eye with tape :)

It is recommended that you check th magnet for pole instead of taking their word for it. Hang it from a string and see what side turns toward north - that is the north pole of the magnet. Use the south for your third eye. Please let us know!!!

[Connecting with Sauce]

CWSauce, if you were certain I get the poles correct, I dOnt think it could hurt. My concern would be that a small magnet migt be too weak? The Pineal is pretty deep in the brain.

Nearing,
I have some magnets like these...

http://www.amazon.com/Neodymium-Magnets-Coated-Magnetic-Therapy/dp/B00129I7TY

mine are smaller with a dot on the north face and I have 10.

1 is stuck to my 3rd eye with tape :)

It is recommended that you check th magnet for pole instead of taking their word for it. Hang it from a string and see what side turns toward north - that is the north pole of the magnet. Use the south for your third eye. Please let us know!!!

Yesterday when I wrote that I placed a second magnet on the rear of my head in the same orientation... Yesterday evening when I returned home I had a huge spot at the back of my head under the skin :) ... Glad I didn't have it on the front! Nothing else to report other than the spot...