Alien Implants - Dr. Roger Leir

[Swami]

A major development in Dr. Leir's research will be revealed for the first time in this Special Presentation.

Dr. Leir and his surgical team, have performed 11 surgeries on alleged alien abductees, resulting in the removal of twelve separate and distinct objects suspected of being [alien implants]. These objects have been scientifically investigated by some of the most prestigious laboratories in the world including Los Alamos National Labs, New Mexico Tech, and the University of California at San Diego. Their findings have been baffling and some comparisons have been made to Meteorite Samples. In addition, some of the tests show isotopic ratios not of this world. He anticipates performing more surgeries in the future and is investigating the physiological and biological aspects of the abduction phenomenon.

Dr. Leir is Board Certified in the following boards: The National College of Foot Surgeons The American Board of Podiatric Sports Medicine The American Board of Foot Surgery The American Circulatory Society and the Society for Non-Invasive Vascular Technology. He is licensed to practice in the states of California and Oregon and holds a certificate from the National Board of Podiatric Medicine.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybPaGerF0TU

[MariaDine]

Derrel Sims e Roger Leir - ADRESS

P. O. Box 60944, Houston, TX 77205, EUA.


http://www.facebook.com/people/Roger-Leir/100000857616369#!/profile.php?id=100000857616369&sk=wall

[Ria]

Alien Implants and Abductions Guest Dr. Roger Leir Explains!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thirdphaseofmoon-ufo-sightings/2013/07/16/alien-implants-and-abductions-guest-dr-roger-leir-explains
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thirdph...-leir-explains
Alien Implants and Abductions Guest Dr. Roger Leir Explains! Thirdphaseofmoon Blake Cousins with Dr. J Andy Ilias, and 15 year old Jack Graham Explore the Phenomenon and ask Roger Leir The Big Questions!
Click on the link above.

[ktlight]

This is exactly the stuff that Miles Johnston is dealing with.

[Globeflyer]

link not working for me.

[Jake]

Try this link. (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thirdphaseofmoon-ufo-sightings/2013/07/16/alien-implants-and-abductions-guest-dr-roger-leir-explains)

[Ria]

The link I have posted seems to be working for me, thank you Jake for the alternative.

Dr. Roger Leir is the most informed person on this subject Alien Implants out side government, global agencies.

He speaks about the different types of implants he has come across, intelligent organism in there own right.

The question how much control do they have over an individual or is it simply a tracking device?
Is the purpose to effect, activate some kind of event.

Sheldan Nidle said he has an implant for direct communication with his ship, this is considered suspect by many here, they may well be right. The only thing I can say, is that he appears to be happy with his implant.

Fortunately Dr. Roger Leir removes the unwonted ones he can find.

[mojo]

A great pioneer and helped to bring proof of the ET phenomenon through his research and removal of implants. Hopefully there will be another to help in implant removal and to continue the research he was doing.

http://www.alienscalpel.com/

Not a fan of thirdphaseofmoon although they occasional have a good interview such as this one of Dr Lier. He mentions some of his new discoveries such as ET handprints on the wall at an abductees home and strange magnetic anomolies. I hope these new discoveries will carry on for further results.


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edit: couldnt locate the longer interview among all of thirdphase uploads. (found it)

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[sigma6]

So sad to hear, I hope someone does a follow up Biography of his work in this field and points up about the anomalous deaths that he himself had reported in regard to the objects he had in his possession, and the work he was doing. He had the most scientific collection of data. It stood head and shoulders above anything anyone else could bring to the table in the field of "ufology" (although I don't think it was alien at all...)

Truly the best research. My only criticism was on how lighthearted he was about it, an almost laissez-fair approach. He would even joke about it, and seemed almost like he was required to defend it. But I could never imagine who could be skeptical given what he was reporting and sharing? What could be more concrete proof? If I was him and there was a critic, I would be so ripping into the idiot, it wouldn't be funny... (not that I know he had any critics, cause I never heard of any) But I don't know why he would joke about it, in such a light hearted manner either. Maybe just personality thing, nervousness, or maybe there was a hidden ridicule team of shills following him. His work was just too important to go mains stream. There wouldn't be any way to disprove it. And the evidence was just too overwhelming. The witnesses too credible. And no way to fake it.

Anyhow, I think he was being too, too modest. He seemed such a kindly, fatherly figure. And yet he was in a position of having to carry something so powerful in it's implications, so potentially dangerous too, especially if you just call it for what it really was most likely (BLACK OPS HIGH TECH MILITARY SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY) How could you dispute the finding. Namely victims coming forward with statements, eye witness accounts of blood stains, on their bodies and bedsheets, and actual object found in the same corresponding areas inside their bodies! Some of those objects giving off radio waves... How could you fake that!?

And as usual not a peep from MSM (maybe one... lol) He wasn't getting the attention he deserved imo. And now he is gone. That is the saddest thing in the world. For him and the world. May we should keep his memory. I suggest we use this thread as a memoriam of his Youtube videos of his research and presentations. Of course whether it was alien of black ops military, is another question. But the facts and observations I think are undeniable. Personally I think it was high tech military, based on the background of many of the victims...

Thank you Mr Lier for you contribution to the awakening of mankind.

Alien Implant Removals Update - Dr. Roger Leir
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[Bill Ryan]

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From my friend Steve Bassett (Paradigm Research Group (http://paradigmresearchgroup.org)), today:

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The Passing of Dr. Roger Leir



Once again I am both sad and angry that another researcher, who devoted his life to seeking truths the government has denied, has passed before his government acknowledged those truths - Disclosure. Roger Leir was a friend and colleague and an inspiration. He sought the truth to the very end, never gave up, had more projects in the works. It is of some comfort to me that Roger was part of the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure and his testimony there will be spread around the world.

We have lost a pioneer who deserves to be and will be in the pantheon with John Mack, Budd Hopkins, Jesse Marcel, Jr., Donald Keyhoe, James McDonald, J. Allen Hynek and many more. How do we honor such men and women? Step forward and press for Disclosure with more determination, more commitment, and more resources. In every way make it clear to your government you will never relent until the lie is ended - never. http://alienscalpel.com (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dbHprH4NosiO0AYflTubp_BfeDy_ACpP3w76uBNOw7_GLHek24Ums344Ut8bhRMjZ3ncA33dOkQUDf991e7db2lE AD7okDJiOuy-rp_iou6moTFGUYlVmsJTswWeGP0CfIKNIT6LrD8GYbhUEb03da8OZyG23o2ggjVKcq80vPL8myoCHgTKRA==&c=AdblzFQF2oeWAF-xgwcIaXmI9LHJyQcexELKP2E5xX9zEMbO0LyhcQ==&ch=hd4cq5LGsFZhtVPIFiG5ZGJvqwL7ePgSyQo1w80y0aJSDPw5PzrsAA==)


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[HaveBlue]

Roger Leir = The elite of credibility. Hands down.
A truly great man.

[uclock]

Hi all

When a scientist analyses an implant and states that the object is 'extra terrestrial' and it is 'manufactured' but goes even further by stating that the device probably comes from outside this solar system, you think the main stream media would report such a thing. Well at least in a world that was truly free!

Read the analysis and make up your own mind as to whether or not the implant is from another world outside our solar system.

http://www.alienscalpel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Analysis-of-Object-Taken-from-Patient-John-Smithv51.pdf

It is interesting that a scientist would go that far.

[Milneman]

Dr. Leir will be missed.

[ceetee9]

Dr. Leir will be missed.I wasn't aware that Dr. Leir had passed (March 14, 2014). RIP Dr. Leir and thank you for being one of the true pioneers for truth and heroes of this world. You will most definitely be missed.

[ThePythonicCow]

Dr. Leir will be missed.

For those who don't recognize the name, there are more details in this thread: The passing of Dr Roger K Leir (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69533-The-passing-of-Dr-Roger-K-Leir).

[Luciano]

There is a new DVD set coming up as a TRIBUTE to Dr. Roger Leir´s work.

[Milneman]

The reason this man's work is so important to the alt community is because he was a scientist at heart, and he used the scientific method to study the phenomenon. We need to take a page from Dr. Leir. He's another one I would've loved to have had dinner with. Him, Bob Dean, and a few others of the old guard around a campfire I think would make a very interesting evening.

[mojo]

-Paul thanks for linking the past thread above...
- Wonder why there is no monitoring of the freguency range that some implants will give off, ~ 54 gigaherz? Dr. Leir had a device to detect the signal, SETI should be all over this information if they were really looking.
-Curious... would anyone else choose to leave the implant in? That is if you had any recall on the abduction. Perhaps if it was from a Mi-lab or negative experience than it would make sense to definitely remove it, but if it was from a species interested in us or helping me in some way, maybe not...

[Milneman]

Mojo,

More interesting! What would happen if you put it back in? I'll volunteer as a guinea pig!

[uclock]

I think if I found I had an implant (the likelihood is 2% of the population have one and they don't know it), I think I would like it removed. If it is attached to the nervous system as the analysis indicates, then what sort of information is it sending?
We can only speculate.
Are they able to see and hear what you see and hear? or can they read what is going on in your mind?
We just don't know. What I do know is the authorities tag certain people so they know where they are or is it that they want to keep a check on their health, then you have to ask why?
The more you look into it, the more perplexing it becomes, until you find the next piece of information, and so on and on it goes.

[Gil Carlson]

Mojo,

No offense to the folks at SETI, but in my opinion they are trying as hard as they can to make sure they don't run into an alien!

Why send radio signals halfway across the galaxy when there may be some aliens working under a government installation a hundred miles from them. Maybe they should aim their antenna there. Or check with the NSA and see if they have recorded any conversations between extraterrestrials or just pick up the phone and call them, there must be some phones beneath Dulce Base!

blue-planet-project.com Secrets-of-Dulce-Base

[Gil Carlson]

Uclock, Great info supplied.

You may find this interesting, this is from page 73 of the Blue Planet Project, since the govt scientist is claimed to have disappeared after releasing info from his notebooks in 1990, this info that the govt had goes back beyond 1990.

SBMCD Alien Implant: The Spherical Biological Monitoring and Control Device (SBMCD) is a techno-organic enhanced synapitid processor powered by a micro-positron flow that controls or mimics the functions of the human nervous system with micro-relay's duplicating the operations of brain engrain patterns. Normally the Greys during an abduction make an insertion of a 3mm device (SBMCD) through the nasal cavity into more dose proximity to the brain of the abductee and after implementing subliminal post hypnotic suggestions that could compel the abductee to perform some specific act within the next two (2) to five (5) years.

blue-planet-project.com

[naste.de.lumina]

My friends.

Yesterday after I read this great thread started by a friend uclock, I was doing some research on the work of DR. Leir and came across a story of a Brazilian site about ufology to a recent report, referencing it (http://ufosonline.blogspot.com.br/2014/03/dr-roger-leir-evidencia-fisica-de.html).

Also, I found this other case that occurred yesterday.

UFOS ONLINE - Alien Implant, Taken from the Ufologist Richard Foot, May 28, 2014.

Is shaped like a pyramid.
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Report in Portuguese (http://ufosonline.blogspot.com.br/2014/05/ufos-online-implante-alienigena.html)

He basically talks that he working with radiesthesia and placing a crystal pendulum over the object, this by capturing the energy of the object shall rotate counterclockwise.

It starts with the pendulum upon the object, then he removes the pendulum to capture the ambient energy and again puts the pendulum on the object removed from his foot.

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This format is very interesting and can leave people more suspicious with details of your body.

Not surprising this tiny object have that powerful electromagnetic field.

My comrades, everything, everything, everything is a single wave of electromagnetic energy with infinite potential and latency. As it is holographic, the smallest particle has the potential and the latency of the whole. It only decreases in size but the potential remains the same. My friends, we are the universe.

Individuals who do this kind of thing, also know that we know.

Hugs.

Naste.

[uclock]

The problem with any analysis is, unless it has been peer reviewed no one will ever take it seriously enough.

[mojo]

Sadly to say there is still a big gap in research with the passing of Dr Leir. Its been a while now and wonder where all his files are and what is being done to further his work?

I just shared this video in another thread. He was getting close for sure to the truth. Im pretty sure the government did not like his analysis and results.

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[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
It was a tragedy when Dr. Leir was taken from us all. He was a very respected Doctor who cared for everyone and did not judge anyone. He believed that there are implants put into people who are unwilling recipients. He believed that government and aliens are putting implants into enormous amounts of people on this planet.
I had the priviledge to talked to him by phone and this was a great pleasure to hear from a man with so much knowledge. We also exchanged emails and I was very appreciative of us advice.
Dr. Roger Leir was helping mankind more than any of us will know. He was one of a kind and no words can express this enough
chancy

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Does anyone have personal experience with unwanted implants? Methods for detection and implant removal is a topic I wish to learn about.

[Bill Ryan]

Physical implants, or non-physical mental/spiritual ones?

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Physical implants, or non-physical mental/spiritual ones?

It would be good to address any type of unwanted implant used for manipulation or monitoring by negative energies and/or control freaks.

To avoid confusion it is a good idea to address what type of implant is being addressed by each post.

[mojo]

Hi, I have the impression you ask because of a personal reason? If so hopefully your experience has been positive. In John Macks book 'Abduction,' it was a surprise to learn John stated abductees may have a positive or negative abduction. That was eye opener in a sense the meaning of the word abduction could mean that.

I took the new rigid bump on my left wrist with a bit of concern, and showed it to a few trusted friends as it was easy to spot. It was stationary in the spot. My suspicion was a monitoring device because of medical situation made it go off. At least that is how it appeared with what could be described as a faint beeping sound that brought attention. The visuals after the sound are the basis for the hypothesis. That they were coming to investigate and it was in 2012 this happened. I always meant to show a doctor if there was going to be a visit to them. But the bump didn't cause any pain and strangely one day it was gone and didn't realize when it happened.

[Noelle]

My sister told me a few months ago that she thought she may have an etheric implant. She was interested in paying someone to remove it. I did not know much about them, but I told her to learn how to remove it herself.

[Callista]

I dont think there are many people on the planet who dont have implants or attachments of one form or another. Some of which were brought forth from 'previous' or other lives. Etheric implants/attachments are not difficult to remove - a lot depends on the will of the person involved, because many are attached via energy through physical contact (ie sexual relationships, hands-on-healing, etc), and you have to really want the connection to be severed.

We also need to remember that not all implants are detrimental, just as not all 'abductions' are detrimental.

This is all my opinion and based on my experiences. Its a huge and complex topic and very much subjective.

[NeedleThreader]

Hi Ron,

Thanks for the thread.

I have had a small pea-size chip in the high arch of my left ear since as long as I remember. I have asked friends to carve it out but they don't want to. This may sound extreme or made up but they freak out too when they feel it in-between their fingers when they touch my ear. They can't explain it. Its not cartilage because a freakin magnet will stick to it, perpendicular to gravity.

Some people complain about extreme tinitus. Or how sometimes their ears will pop, or all sound will stop for a moment and then resume. I experience something MUCH more noticeable in my left ear - a very high pitched ringing is produced maybe once or twice a week, sometimes three times in one day, it doesn't feel normal.

I was born in the Princeton, NJ hospital here in the states. A perfect place for a social experiment on newborns. Princeton University was renowned for its great academics and psychology program. Einstein lived and taught here, the astropsyisicist Niel DeGrasse Tyson. My family friend, was and still is the head of the school of economics and tenured professor. He attended Bohemian Grove Regularly. Princeton is also home to The Global Consciousness Project, which is tapping into the noosphere with certain instruments of measurementation they can literally chart when the entire human population is feeling certain emotions. --Perhaps aliens have this tech too and feed off of our negative emotions? http://noosphere.princeton.edu

I also have O- blood and have been paranoid to a point sometimes where I thought maybe I was tagged for 'research'.

If I went off topic it is because I wanted it all laid out so someone other than me might be able to make sense of it.

Thanks for the Thread Ron!

[Lifebringer]

Go to another doctor, preferably in Mexico, and see a plastic surgeon. They know how to take even a piece of the ear, to remove it and sew it up, almost where you don't have a visible scar. That's what I would do, then I would tell them to shield it in LEAD and throw it in the ocean. Pay them well to take it away, right away as you don't want to alert, whoever put it there in the 1st place. You may have to have someone explain the proceedure you want done in their language "away from the chip picking up the decision to remove it/receiver?" JMO, but lead shield the radio active frequency, like when you have an x-ray, therefore, treat it as such when removing it. They can locally numb you, remove it, take it away, and give you antibiotics. Change your doctors after that and be careful. Any proceedure they anesthesize you, they can implant without your knowledge, even tattoo parlors.

[Spiral]

Does anyone have personal experience with unwanted implants? Methods for detection and implant removal is a topic I wish to learn about.

Not all implants are detectable, even if they are physical !

They are not necessarily ferrous, react to or emit radio waves or show on x-rays.

The obvious ones could also be a psychological meme, I mean it has an impact knowing (or strongly suspecting) that someone or something has put some kind of device inside your body with out your consent or knowledge !

I had some in my spine (between the shoulder blades) that came out over a period of weeks, they emerged like tiny pieces of steel wire ( I used a venom pump to remove them when they broke through my skin ) they each dissolved into the blood that came out with them, leaving no trace.

Their purpose seemed to be to stimulate horrific & agonising emotional states during the period between them being inserted (very painful) & their emergence.

There are tiny hard things under my skin on my left calf, forehead & something on the back of my head at the base of the skull that has a small scab that has been there for years.

Where's Roger Leir when you need him lol.

[turiya]

Alien energy implants cannot be detected using physical means via X-Rays or using a metal detector. Only Man-Made implants can show up through this kind of human technology. Energy implants can be detected through the sensitivity of psychic means.

Roger Leir had claimed to have removed 17 physical alien implants, and through his investigation, one of these objects had been determined to have been made of a small run of ceramic type glass made by Dow Corning Industries.

I don't agree much with Steven Greer, but on this particular subject matter I do tend to agree with him. With the number of abductions that have taken place, resulting in millions of individuals having been implanted with so-called physical "Alien implants", this is being done by the Deep State cabal... wanting it to be blamed on ETs. As, there is a plan to create a false-flag Alien invasion scenario. With a global economic collapse coming on the horizon, one can make a pretty good guess as to why they would be wanting to have this kind of thing to occur.


Chris Thomas on Alien Implants

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtmf6ezTyTQ__________________________

Alien Implants are all MAN-MADE
(Published on Jun 25, 2013)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORBJUD0Z3Fc

[Eagle Eye]

The manipulation has reached a higher level don't think they will let find the implants so easily unless they are ment to be found. To all the TI who are dealing heavy attacks : Try to keep your balance in everyday action and dont loose your strenght. Also be careful about your thoughts ( not every thought comes from you).

[Limor Wolf]

Hello Ron, coming to visit for a little while, when I inquired within myself a few years ago, this is what came up - I am copying these understandings here from a note I scrambled on -



"Something came up, something that referred to the potential elimination that can not be done from the usual point of view of being inside ourself while doing things Astraly like when removing etheric implants or doing any other energy work,

The essential starting point that comes to mind for such a release is the knowing of yourself as a multidimensional being who is equal or more to the other Beings/ Entities despite their status (from our human point of view) of thousand of years of advancement technologically, scientifically and mentally. Our energy level must be adapted to their own, at least, not in a way of matching their frequency, but with the thorough knowledge of our 'self' being a multidimensional being and connected in spirit to source. Their ability to do things to us lies in our perception of ourselves as being of a less value.

What I gathered from this is -

In order to break the program/ neutralize the implant it should be done from a place of expended state of existence - a one that is greater in energy than those who put those implants, with this deep spiritual knowing expanded state, it's possible to dismantle the situation, when connecting to roots of wisdom.

Everything that the Dracos, Archons have built - programs etc, can be deactivated by being in the state of knowing and of the extended identity"

Mojo, there is no positive abduction, abduction is a taking of an individual against their will. High benevolence would not apply such actions that defy universal law. What may play sometimes is the giving of perception to the human being that they were treated nicely, that evidently serves well, to keep the polarities going (see as well 'laws of opposites') while in truth the human being is a source spirit creator who is IN CHARGE of the 'dream', however, not knowing themselves

I hope that helps,

All the good blessings ~

Limor

[Praxis]

I had forgotten that Jimmy introduced CG at the Conscious Life Expo. Man that is a well produced presentation.

I really appreciate that Steven Greer Interview about the implants. I am not speaking about the quality of evidence he presents, which I would like to see some documentation of the things he speaks about.

But his analogy of the four horsemen is very useful, even with the christian baggage that will come with it when used.

They are all bad in their own way, and they all have similar goals so they often work together, which only lasts for as long as they benefit. If one benefits but the other benefits more then the first would cease for example.

But it is another way of describing the power structure of the planet.

The four horsemen in their general order are: War, Conquest, Famine, and Death

War takes Peace
Conquest take Freedom
Famine takes Satiation
Death takes Life

[onawah]

Anytime someone says something like "All implants are manmade" or "All ETs are friendly" I wonder how they can think only they can see the big picture, and that it's impossible they could have missed something.



Alien Implants are all MAN-MADE
(Published on Jun 25, 2013)

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[shadowstalker]

Does anyone have personal experience with unwanted implants? Methods for detection and implant removal is a topic I wish to learn about.

For a starter look up Steve Colbern

[mojo]

Hi Limor Wolf,
I thought that as well until reading John Macks book abduction. In that book he documents a fair number of both types. Also we have the words of folks like Betty Hill in her last interview mentions how positive the contact Barney and her had.

[Michi]

Some time ago I came across a revocation technique by Cameron Day which has one of it's steps to remove "non-physical mental/spiritual" implants.

It's about half way down in his article at: http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/11/21/tell-the-lords-of-karma-that-you-are-sovereign-no-longer-a-lightworker-part-2/

Cameron explains in his article that a being after departing his body at death is tricked by archons to redress mostly for "invented" wrong-doings in his next live.
Hence, the archons are a primary source of implants which influences ones "fate" in the current live.
The underlying mechanism is that one is conned and that one agrees to adversity.

Rich West (http://www.richwest.net) offers at his website the same procedure as a course including how to locate such agreements in detail.

[onawah]

I remember Cameron Day's article "Why I am no Longer a Lightworker' and it was helpful. After just taking a cursory look at part 2, I think this will be too.
It's a good explanation of why "going into the light" can be a trick.
Contrary to what many people seem to believe, this information is not contrary to classic teachings such as those in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, it is just couched in somewhat different terminology.
Thanks for posting! :thumbsup:


Some time I came across a revocation technique by Cameron Day which has one of it's steps to remove "non-physical mental/spiritual" implants.

It's about half way down in his article at: http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/11/21/tell-the-lords-of-karma-that-you-are-sovereign-no-longer-a-lightworker-part-2/

Cameron explains in his article that a being after departing his body at death is tricked by archons to redress mostly for "invented" wrong-doings in his next live.
Hence, the archons are a primary source of implants which influences ones "fate" in the current live.
The underlying mechanism is that one is conned and that one agrees to adversity.

Rich West offers at his website the same procedure as a course including how to locate such agreements in detail.

[TrumanCash]

I remember Cameron Day's article "Why I am no Longer a Lightworker' and it was helpful. After just taking a cursory look at part 2, I think this will be too.
It's a good explanation of why "going into the light" can be a trick.
Contrary to what many people seem to believe, this information is not contrary to classic teachings such as those in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, it is just couched in somewhat different terminology.
Thanks for posting! :thumbsup:


Some time I came across a revocation technique by Cameron Day which has one of it's steps to remove "non-physical mental/spiritual" implants.

It's about half way down in his article at: http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/11/21/tell-the-lords-of-karma-that-you-are-sovereign-no-longer-a-lightworker-part-2/

Cameron explains in his article that a being after departing his body at death is tricked by archons to redress mostly for "invented" wrong-doings in his next live.
Hence, the archons are a primary source of implants which influences ones "fate" in the current live.
The underlying mechanism is that one is conned and that one agrees to adversity.

Rich West offers at his website the same procedure as a course including how to locate such agreements in detail.

I scanned through Cameron Day's article "Why I am no Longer a Lightworker" and I was pleasantly surprised to see that he really hit the mark on that one. He gets it.

Regarding "going to the light" the actual pulling of the being into an implanting mothership (as in my case) or other "processing" ship/facility is accomplished with technology. This is the "tunnel".

The actual implanting occurs in the ship and is done not by "light beings" but by Mantids disguised as "light beings". Through telepathic hypnosis they can implant ideas and images in one's mind, so to speak, (even though one is out of body at the time). This is where near death experiencers see their relatives, etc.

Mantids and Grays have implanted me with physical implants as well which I cover in THE EYE OF RA. The most harmful one is the brain implant.

The other type with which I am familiar is a rectal implant. The last one I had was removed by tall Grays in a DUMB in the Pacific Northwest. I had once told my doctor about it and invited him to check it out when he was examining me for an asthmatic condition that had been triggered by Grays. He said he was well aware of these ET implants but declined to check mine out. I can't blame him. Ha, ha, ha

[ichingcarpenter]

I always thought he was credible since he dealt with physical evidence and science.
I remember he had other doctors and scientists on his team but is no one carrying on his legacy and investigations of implants?

Generally, foreign bodies incorporated into tissues cause an acute or chronic inflammatory reaction and may include fibrosis and cyst formation. That was not the case here of the implants he found. The pathological reports of the first two surgeries revealed that the metal objects were enclosed in a very dense and resistant grey membrane composed of protein coagulum, haemosteridine and pure keratin. More directly: blood proteins and skin cells that are usually found in the surface layer of the skin.

These biological “cocoons” that surround implants also contain nerve proprioceptors (nerve cells and pressure cells). These implanted cocoons also fluoresced bright green in the presence of an ultraviolet light source.


The alleged implants removed from the first set of surgeries were studied by two different pathologists and then sent to various independent laboratories for further scientific analysis. The tests performed on these suspected foreign implants included pathologic/tissue evaluation, laser-induced decomposition spectroscopy (LIBS), extensive metallurgical tests including density immersion testing, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy, scanning electron microscopy, X-ray diffraction pattern analysis, and electronic/magnetic and fluorescence properties analysis. Isotopic range tests are also underway. The tests were conducted by the National Institute of Discovery of Science (NIDS), New Mexico Tech and other independent sources.

https://www.hellystar.com/en/alien-implants-myth-or-reality/

I bring this up because of the skinwalker film maker who did a documentary on him and how Bigalow's team helped fund his research.

Where are the samples now?....... where do people go now?

[Deux Corbeaux]

Dr. Roger Leir testified at the 2013 “Citizen's Hearing on Disclosure” at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. along with a number of scientific and academic experts, former government officials, retired military personnel and pilots.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/29/citizen-hearing-on-disclo_0_n_3175272.html

At this hearing, 05/03/2013 4:39 PM EDT :
Technology Panel Features Dr. Roger Leir’s Implant Surgery And Its Alleged Relationship To The UFO Subject


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPOQi8n_XuE

I also found a documentary on him, his surgery and patients, which I will post here, although the terrible music that was put over the interview almost drove me mad.
Well, see if you can stand it :Music: :angry:

ps. When you take your right phone off, or out of your ear, the music will be less distracting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wifuvvUKbf0

[ichingcarpenter]

DEUX.............I wish there was another timeline because

Right after he died the UFO community
GOT THE COREY GOODE/WILCOCK/EMERY........space fantasy

[Deux Corbeaux]

DEUX.............I wish there was another timeline because

Right after he died the UFO community
GOT THE COREY GOODE/WILCOCK/EMERY........space fantasy

Does that discredit Dr. Leir´s work in this timeline then ?

[Foxie Loxie]

Not to my way of thinking! If I remember correctly, some of those implants had names of some of OUR companies on them!

Which, in turn, made me think of Charles Hall & the Tall Whites....members of the U.S. military would supply these beings with "parts" their ships needed!

We who are uninformed have been living in a bubble imposed upon us by all the secrecy! :caked:

[Deux Corbeaux]

Not to my way of thinking! If I remember correctly, some of those implants had names of some of OUR companies on them!


Really ? On those tiny objects?

Wiki says this.....


At a MUFON conference in 1995, Leir examined X-rays from a woman who believed she was an abductee. He later extracted two small metallic foreign objects from her, and also from a second patient. The objects were analyzed by the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, which determined that they were "composed of commonly found elements", such as iron or aluminum. In describing some of these elements, the lab report made reference to the composition of meteors. Leir interpreted this to mean that the objects removed from his patients were "of extraterrestrial origin". He came to believe the objects were devices implanted by aliens and "scientific proof of non-terrestrial experimentation on man". Leir soon became prominent in the alien abduction and UFO communities. He hired a dentist, a radiologist and a general surgeon to assist him in his practice. Leir claimed the objects he removed from patients emitted “deep space frequency radio waves", had strange magnetic properties, or contained odd crystalline structures.[2] According to skeptical investigator Joe Nickell, the "implants" Leir claimed to have discovered were most likely ordinary objects such as shards of glass or fragments of metal that become lodged in arms, hands, legs and feet due to accidental falls or barefoot walking. When asked to provide a forensic medical institute with specimens or photos for analysis, Leir's associate, Derrel Sims, refused.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Leir

Wiki.... Who is/are Wiki ? :silent:

[ichingcarpenter]

Deux: No , Its that the UFO field is going in the wrong direction with it being dominated by fantasy, caring only about youtube hits and not facts nor evidence which I think people like Lier, Dr. Mack, Bud Hopkins, Robert Hastings and others were advancing and researching and showing us where we should go

I do want to know what happened to the 17 samples and the data reports which were real. I suspect the Bigalow industries has it and its part of RTS claims of having alien artifacts. Also why nobody in the UFO field is asking questions about what happened to Leir's work.

Leir won the MUFON award right before he died then MUFON in 17 let the goofballs have a table at the conference and the kid who witnessed Abe Lincoln at the Gettysburg address

Maybe I will e mail George Knapp and see what he knows. He has a professional contact with Bigalow.

[ichingcarpenter]

Not to my way of thinking! If I remember correctly, some of those implants had names of some of OUR companies on them!
:caked:

LINK PLEASE because I don't recall that statement of the findings of Dr Leir.

ON EDIT found it

X files Duane Berry episodes.. implants made by Japanese company

[hermit]

Sidebar: Patient 17, if you haven't seen it, is worth the watch. Available on Netflix.

[Foxie Loxie]

Sorry, ichingcarpenter....I don't even know how to do links!! :waving: It was from the first conference that Steven Greer organized years ago...I was just rummaging through my mind. You know...how something rings a bell & dots start to connect! :idea:

That's all folks.....

[hermit]

Easy Peasy.

Find the information on the internet, or in print.

Either copy/paste the link *here* or site the written material so we can find it and check it out.

I've listened to quite a few of Dr. Lier's talks out there and although I've heard him reference that there are 'black budget labs' that do analysis of the objects, the conclusion always comes out that the substances within the object are anomalous.

But I'd love to see the info regarding trademarks on teenie tiny implants. Who prints that stuff? ;)

[Denise/Dizi]

I have come to the conclusion that the implants were a precursor, to what Elon Musk is now working on.. Neural Lace and such. It seems to me, if I remember properly, if one could gain access to any part of the systems of the body, it can indeed affect the mind of a human. For example, I watched a few videos where they were able to implant chips into the arm or hand, that could indeed, interact with the mind of the individual.

(The hand chips people are making videos about)... I however, did far more research than just a few youtube videos because I have MS, and have been in some really involved clinical research studies for "new treatments".. I noticed a few trends and followed up on them.. I noticed a few other conditions I had, seemed more a spin off of something else, than just a random condition I also ended up experiencing.. I didn't think it was coincidence at all...

While my conclusions are just that, conclusions.... I think that what is happening, is that most, if not all the species we are now dealing with, or will be in the near future, are HIGHLY evolved... Extremely telepathic, etc.. and they HAVE all in some way, either some hive mind capabilities, or they're telepathic, whether naturally or artificially...

If we merge our AI with US, rather than just developing it aside us... it would add a SOUL to the technology, AND it would also extremely elevate our own intelligence. Once you become more intelligent, and telepathic, they're unfair advantage disappears.. and we are left with only the differences in technology advancements... I think the et saw that we were very vulnerable, and they're trying to level the field for our own benefit. Whether we want it or not..

I can't imagine our governments would allow them to do these things to us, unless they really felt it was NECESSARY.. SOMETHING bigger happened.. Either they lost a fight they're not telling us about, or they absolutely see the GOOD in such things, but they felt telling us, wouldn't benefit them, because we would say NO..

The case of Dan Sherman comes to mind. Where he was told that his mother was abducted and his genetics altered in some way... And this "Enhancement... " allows him to interact with the LITERAL COMPUTER that he was using.. Once he was able to concentrate properly, he was able to "Receive" information directly to his mind... telepathically... NO PHONE NEEDED... IF we lost our technology, this would be one way to never lose our KNOWLEDGE.. AND it would allow for us to always be able to communicate to one another. This would be an EXTREMELY valuable tool in a war like scenerio, or a survival situation. And it would seem to be the next step in our evolution as a species..

One big rock hitting our planet can send us back to the stone ages. Those who COULD save our tech, would be too busy trying to just rebuild.. Eventually they would try to write down what they know, and eventually, we would try to recapture that. BUT if we had it all downloaded directly to the mind of every individual, we would never lose it again..

While I am aware this is off topic, I think THAT is what those implants were, and WHY they're so important... I think eventually they will be able to develop this to the pint, where it is completely biological in nature.. A virus of sorts.. One that rewrites telepathy back into our dna code directly.. Our bodies are the most advanced AI their is, we're just not plugged into each other yet.. it's coming...

People Like LEIR.. were on the forefront of discovering that this has been happening for a very long time. The question is, how far has this developed and how many of us already have this, growing inside us.. those having "NEW DISEASES" that apparently GROW OVER, or intrude into the neural systems.. MOST IMPORTANTLY into the brain, like MS and such.. I think that is exactly what these "Conditions" are... biological tech... Those who get sick, their bodies are trying to fight off this intrusion... But how many have this happening that AREN'T showing signs of this "nervous system take over"?

We're cutting and pasting DNA now... we're printing DNA now, and adding it to people using biological "Envelopes".. I have done a lot of research into these theories because I HAVE MS.. I wanted to know what I was really dealing with.. It didn't take long before someone began "Telepathically" speaking to me, furthering my suspicions, that I was absolutely on the right track! Giving me a sample of what this stuff can do.. They didn't have to say I was right, they SHOWED ME...

I think we ALL have this in us now, and someone is trying to "Take it live"...

[Spiral]

If Derrel Simms refused to have things analysed he will have had good reason to do so, I think he is above board as I believe was the late Dr Leir.

The strange thing with implants is that they seem to have changed down the years just like the craft & occupants that abductees have reported.

I have had implants come out of my spine (with the aid of a venom sucker) that were like tiny pieces of wire (if you have used a wire brush on an angle grinder they were like the bits that break off & stick in you) but these implants "dissolved" into the blood that came with them after a matter of seconds.

PS Derrel Sims is setting up some new websites atm & is looking for funds to do tests on a chupacabra he has in his freezer (one of those freaky hairless dog like critters).

[Foxie Loxie]

Just wondering if anyone else here on Avalon has had implants removed? :confused:

[Rawhide68]

I was happy to find this clip from a Greek investigator/researcher. I have not heard much about implants for quite a while.

The second half of the clip focuses mainly on orbs and a possible connection.

UFO Wreckage & Implant Sample Analysis | Orestis Lazanakis

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