To Bill and Charles...could this be it...

[East Sun]

Where to begin. I might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb, so here goes.
Edgar Cayce said in 'trance' that Adam was reincarnated many times and finally as Jesus. Jesus said he would come again. If I'm going to believe what we've been told about a 'guy' who's 5,000 years and is a Master it's easy for me to believe that Charles' Master could be the Second Coming of Jesus.
OK laugh, shake your head, throw your hands up in disbelief if you want.
I know there are lots of things anyone can come up with that would seem like it is not so. Since I've listened to every side of every belief and gave all of them some consideration I'm giving this consideration also.
ES

[Meesh]

Not laughing here. The same thought popped into my head, yesterday. And my next thought was, "Well, aren't we all the second coming of Jesus?"

[Dennis Jonathan]

Interesting thought. Dangerous, hopefull, intriguing, intimidating, and invigorating implications.

Of course, I can imagine Charles replying with something as simple as: "close" starting another thousand or so posts trying to decipher his meaning.

[Bill Ryan]

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I really absolutely doubt that. It's much more complex and multi-layered.

[Fredkc]

No.
No.
Probably not.
Hell no!
and of course...
No.
Fred

[bodixa]

Where to begin. I might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb, so here goes.
Edgar Cayce said in 'trance' that Adam was reincarnated many times and finally as Jesus. Jesus said he would come again. If I'm going to believe what we've been told about a 'guy' who's 5,000 years and is a Master it's easy for me to believe that Charles' Master could be the Second Coming of Jesus.
OK laugh, shake your head, throw your hands up in disbelief if you want.
I know there are lots of things anyone can come up with that would seem like it is not so. Since I've listened to every side of every belief and gave all of them some consideration I'm giving this consideration also.
ES

Well, hey, Even the wonderful Bob Dean believed we will see the Galilean again - I think he described him as the 'wonderful Galilean' or 'Nazarene' - something like that. And Bill Deagle too. He thinks Jesus is King of the Universe and Son of the most High and I believe expects him to return to deal with some stuff. I think Bob and Bill both see him as 'off planet' tho.
I don't think Charles' Master is that. Charles himself doesn't know about who Jesus was 'He wasn't there', he said. I don't know about that.

When Jesus talked about 'coming again' it was in the context of the end of days of some kind, a gathering of all things to him (in consciousness perhaps). His return was never described as being that of a man walking about on Earth doing people stuff. It was either as a ruler with great authority or to take us to a place where we can be with him.

There are very, very strong Jewish and political overtones to interpretations of the purpose of Christ's return in different parts of the NT. So it's almost impossible to say how that return might present itself, if at all.

[Rhiannon]

assuming jesus lived 2000 years ago approximately. how could a 5000 year old man be his second coming?

[Dennis Jonathan]

I think he was meaning in the sense of age on earth. The bible indicates approx 5000 years from Adam to us.

[ASIA]

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I really absolutely doubt that. It's much more complex and multi-layered.


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3e34c_kt-tunstall-hold-on_music



GYUS, ... HOLD ON COS THE WORLD WILL TURN IF YOU'RE READY OR NOT.
***
Say you to me
Youre a bird with an eye for anything shiny
Searching the land
For a hero of a man

You say I need
More than my fair share of attention
But I think you know
That just isnt so

Underneath
I felt the fire of a burning question
Tearing me apart
Right from the very start

And now I see
That it dont take a trick of the light to excite me
So strong, So long,
Youll see

Hold on to what youve been given lately
Hold on to what you know youve got
Hold on to what youve been given lately
Hold on cos the world will turn if youre ready or not

Simplicity
A heart of gold
An old head on young shoulders
Quiet and lovely
Becoming part of me
And now I see
From a handful of names and a thousand faces
One light, burning fiercely

I was tired of January
I was tired of June
I felt a change coming
I was tired of January
Tired of June
I felt a change a coming

I felt a change a coming
I felt a change a coming
I felt a change a coming
I felt a change a coming soon

Hold on to what youve been given lately
Hold on to what you know youve got
Hold on to what youve been given lately
Hold on cos the world will turn if youre ready or not

Hold on to what youve been given lately
Hold on to what you know youve got
Hold on to what youve been given lately
Hold on cos the world will turn if youre ready or not

Well the world will turn if youre ready or not
Yes the world will turn if youre ready or not

by KT TUNSTALL

* WITH INFINITE TRUST - ASIA ♥

[12gaugeangel]

I do not feel that the biblical Jesus and Adam are necessarily connected to the old friend of Charles. However, the thought has crossed my mind several times that the statement "he sheds his skin" is not intended to be taken literally. Reincarnation seems the correct interpretation, of course I have yet to read any confirmation of this.

I would think that a connection to Enoch is more likely than to Jesus, but neither is my guess for now.

In any event, open-minded thought is not in short supply around here. Thanks for raising this idea East Sun

[sygh]

I've told a few, and alluded to others but I really have to say, 18 years ago, when meditating, I was lifted up on a higher plane and the mark...

"These are the days of God" was put into my forehead. It was an experience I cannot express, except there was an intense amount of love and joy involved. Try to turn your back on that.

I don't think the master is Jesus; however, God, through Christ is my savior. I know this to be true because he literally saved me in the spirit several ties. None shall pass.

[Roman195]

I think that the "Domains of Knowing" created by Unified Masters are at critical mass. This means trouble for the old Domains..

[ArjunaArcana]

People often refer to the second coming of Jesus, but it begs the question: How can the world know, when Jesus comes that he is Jesus?.

No one has a picture of him nor anyone has seen him, how can we know?

No description of the man exist, isnt that strange?

This world is far more complex in all aspects than what we think, and Am glad for it.

[astrid]

And given also that the whole Jesus story is so polluted, i doubt we will ever know the true story, while in physical form....

Me thinks the whole "second coming" concept was more spin to keep the flock inline.

However, my personal take is there are many powerful beings here for this time,
either in the physical or in other dimensions, both as observers and as helpers.

If u need assistance, just ask.

Seriously, try it , it works,

We are in the physical plane of the "doing" it is us that is working through them.

When u find that connection to your higher helpers, everything sings,
and life is a very different experience.


update: just after writing this i have shivers, air moving all around me and im feeling a rush of love, so yes , we have help and they are just waiting for us to ask.

I suspect the master is one of the ETs that was connected to the original experiment.

Dolores Cannon talked about this in one of her interviews.
I will go off now and find this and make a new thread..
( it might be an important piece of the puzzle).

[slipknotted]

almost anything deserves a thought but i dont think a second coming would have charles as his PR man no offence to charles at all but with the fague ness of his answers if things ever do get reveled we will maybe see just how big this web is ....... we hope

[andrewgreen]

Adam is symbolic like most of what Charles is saying, I wouldn't take anything he says literally.

[EC1000]

Adam is symbolic like most of what Charles is saying, I wouldn't take anything he says literally.

yeah, i agree with the taking literally part except for when it is yes or no type answers. I think charles has to speak symbolically because if he does really know something "inside" (thinking more about spirituality stuff here, not the 33) he can't just spell it all out because it would be interfering with freewill situation and he would probably get in trouble. just a guess

[East Sun]

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I really absolutely doubt that. It's much more complex and multi-layered.

Complex and multi-layered than that gave me pause for thought, but now after going back and watching the Dave M video that Spirit Wolf put on here a while back and recalling some of the whistle-blowers you interviewed I now see what you mean. Thanks!

[Snowbird]

The 5,000 year old "Master" is most probably not human, although he may occasionally take human form. He is, very possibly, an off-planet being from the Moon.

[Kulapops]

Hmm, seems to be a lot of waiting involved in our modern lifestyle.

Waiting for alien invasions
Waiting for enlightenment
Waiting for Jesus
Waiting for the antichrist
Waiting to find out who gets booted off X-factor (don't you think they could expedite that section of the program? Apparently, in the last UK series, the 'winner' won the vote on every show except the first one. Where is the drama in that? You know who's going to win, but you spin it out for 12 weeks)
My conclusion?

Humans love waiting.
We wait for buses. We wait in traffic
We wait for promotion
We wait for praise
We wait for justice

"Living is what you do while you're waiting for your life to come along" - Kulapops TM...

We wait for the diabolical plans of tptb to manifest. We are often waiting 'for more details...'

There's only one alternative to waiting, and it's action. Quite, peaceful, get out of your chair and off your bottom action. Don't wait for life to come to you, go to it.

and Suddenly you forget that you were waiting....

Much love, and welcome to newbies wherever you are, may you bring fresh heart to the forum. But I warn you... it's addictive ;)

K

[Elve]

Everything about charles in my "perception" continues to promote fear and more confusion than is gleamed from his info. It still interests me to hear what he has to say , but I take it as more disinfo from the same so called "masters". Maybe the Galactic Federation, is hanging out ready for the tipping point of our consiousness to let go of fear and limitation and Charles is just another agent to keep that from happening. What hope does he offer? He said in his interview their is no hope for us? I Beleive their is not only hope ,but divine destiny.

[youenjoymself]

well if you're think along the line of Jesus and the Bible,

The bible indicates approx 5000 years from Adam to us + master + manipulator + sheds skin + well dressed man =

satan?

[East Sun]

If it were not for Bill's info. about Charles' Master (meeting him) I would be more skeptical. It's not just one persons word regarding the Master, but two, and that makes all the difference.

[East Sun]

well if you're think along the line of Jesus and the Bible,

The bible indicates approx 5000 years from Adam to us + master + manipulator + sheds skin + well dressed man =

satan?

What made me start this thread was my recalling the description of Jesus by Edgar Cayce and matching it to Bill's description of the Master. But as I keep saying, we still don't know.

[tank anu]

To either Bill or Charles:
Can Charles change his eye color at will? Apologies if that's an outlandish question.

[Kimberley]

I am struck by how many keep asking about Charles "Master" he already confirmed WHO the master is>>>>
Re: Charles' comments about a False Flag ET threat event: important new information

Originally Posted by T Smith
Reviewing the material, I would posit your Master is a higher aspect of your own consciousness, of which your "special abilities" allows full awareness/conscious interaction in a full cause-and-effect relationship. In other words, your master is real as far as his cause and effect on the world is concerned; he is both separate from you, but also integrated with your consciousness and being. You are aware of the history, because he has told you and he is you. You were bred as a vehicle (I'm not referring at all about channeling) but in an awareness sense of an expanded reality unknown to most humans -- to serve the agenda of your Master, but also to find resolution and synthesis of your Master's agenda with the free will of your own sentient being on an individual level of consciousness, at which most us humans function. This might be viewed as a microcosm of the drama unfolding at large, for the human race at large.

This is not meant to advance my own personal philosophy of the material I've processed thus far, but to frame a basis for the question: Is this an accurate assessment? If not entirely accurate, are we at least beginning to think about these issues along the right lines?:flypig:

Answer from Charles
Yes.....................

[youenjoymself]

To either Bill or Charles:
Can Charles change his eye color at will? Apologies if that's an outlandish question.

we all have this ability.

[Kimberley]

It is this topic of miss understanding about who Charles "master" is that compelled me to join in to this forum and help shed light on the facts as I see them :-) ... Much love to us ALL!!! Love is all there is!!! :o:angel::kiss3: