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Swami

29th January 2011, 21:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ

davyj0nes

29th January 2011, 21:48

that wasn't a ufo, that was yahweh hanging out in jerusalem.

smig

29th January 2011, 22:01

WoW! Thanks for posting

Artemesia

29th January 2011, 22:06

Best UFO vid I've seen in awhile. As Charles' points out, 'disclosure' has already happened. I don't need some suit to tell me there are 'others' here watching. Videos like this say it all. The next question is, how do we honor their presence and make contact, show that we've put down our 'pitchforks and torches' so to speak, and invite them in for a cup of tea?

stomy

29th January 2011, 22:09

gigawatt

29th January 2011, 22:10

307 You Tube views when I first looked at this. Wonder how many hits it will get.

Intraphase

30th January 2011, 02:31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ

Thank You Swami, your Nick is appropriate.
(Retro-causal) Moving backward effect precedes cause.
This is a good example of an upstream delivery of raw pure power as TRUTH.
This gives me the confidence required to know the Egyptians shall set themselves free.
That representative government of the people shall triumph and the army and people shall unite and prevail.This is a good and powerful omen.

Lima Peru had magor sightings on 01-03 & 01-07.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0di9zOmYjTs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q84roHFWyns#!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caral
Caral Peru is the first magor Americas city area circa 3000BC.
I track UFO'S as eternal spirit transporters that use time-space corridors as a mobile barrier systems.

That video of the dome is spectacular in its clarity and action sequences.
:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::horn:

TWINNICK

30th January 2011, 04:29

that was spectacular ! thanks for that, pitty it didn't show an extreme close up.

Me thinks they dropped something/someone off or picked someone/something up.

More please !!!

..Nick..

Lost Soul

30th January 2011, 05:12

Shoot. Why didn't they do that when I was there in Jerusalem?

The Arthen

30th January 2011, 12:17

Looks exciting. Then again...could be a false flag alien conditioning takin place....still I enjoyed it.

bluestflame

30th January 2011, 12:40

see the flash just before it took off ? ...seems like someone on the ground might have got a very good closeup of the craft , lets see what turns up in the next few days

Swami

30th January 2011, 12:51

Looks exciting. Then again...could be a false flag alien conditioning takin place....still I enjoyed it.

Ive been having the same thoughts......

TWINNICK

30th January 2011, 12:59

I also think that flash was bigger than a camera flash.

..Nick..

Swami

30th January 2011, 13:06

I also think that flash was bigger than a camera flash.

..Nick..

Question is:
Where did that flash come from.....?

bluestflame

30th January 2011, 13:16

if the flash was a gunshot, would tie into the retalitory "et invasion"

though no sound of it

The Arthen

30th January 2011, 14:48

http://imageupload.org/?di=4129639898910

during flash

http://imageupload.org/?di=6129639881413

snapshot contrast increase

bluestflame

30th January 2011, 15:01

maybe the ets were taking photos

anthony

30th January 2011, 17:19

307 You Tube views when I first looked at this. Wonder how many hits it will get.

over 3000 today

Billy

30th January 2011, 17:29

great shot, just after the flash and the light whizzzes up, there is another light rising slowly below.

Swami

30th January 2011, 22:03

Looks like something simular happened here........:noidea:

Residents of a town in northeastern Colombia say about 2,000 fish have been found dead since last week after a strange object flying and flashing light was seen for a few seconds on a slew of the region.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11701-Full-Disclosure-%21&p=113962&viewfull=1#post113962

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQw8c7XFHQw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwp_WHFhA4A

Harley

30th January 2011, 22:54

Jerusalem UFO: Second Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a89NLhHS7Mw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page1199999...

Second video of UFO over Jerusalem holy sites surfaces

Michael Cohen

On Saturday All News Web reported on a UFO video taken from the Armon Hanatziv panoramic lookout.
The UFO is seen descending almost to the level of the Dome of the Rock/Temple Mount, the spot where the Al Aksa Mosque stands and the Jewish Holy of Holies is believed to have been located once.
Since then this UFO video has spread like wildfire across the net; Hailed as proof of alien visitation.
In the video a second witness was seen filming the UFO event and now it seems that witness has uploaded his video online (see below).
We are now waiting for more witnesses to come forward claiming to have also seen the UFO.
We have had one email from one Jerusalemite, Mr Menachem Ben David, a resident of the Talpiot. Mr Ben David on seeing the video himself, claims that he was walking back from late night prayers at the Western Wall when he did notice an unusual flash of light: however he did not see any UFOs.
Interestingly, ancient Jewish texts talk of a ball of light that would descend to the Temple to ignite the sacrificial altar in days gone by. Was this ball of light being sent down by aliens?

bluestflame

30th January 2011, 23:14

remember the updated movie "war of the worlds"? where there were flashes to activate something that had been dormant beneath the ground ....I'm not saying this is what is happening , but considering the popularity of the movie and the amount of people that had seen it , it's plausible that the movies remake could be an upgraded version of the original exercise that inspired it

video seems could have been made to access the conditioning of that movie ( i'm not saying the video is fake , just questioning the origin of the "et" craft and the motive for allowing themselves to be filmed )

Axman

30th January 2011, 23:16

looks like something else up there on the second video.

The Axman

Swami

30th January 2011, 23:26

Jerusalem UFO: Second Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a89NLhHS7Mw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page1199999...

On second 39, left side of the screen, just before the flash above Dome.....; Is there another flash....?

Harley

30th January 2011, 23:26

looks like something else up there on the second video.

The Axman

Yes. And THAT'S what should be focused on.

And what a location to kick-off international attention!

Axman

30th January 2011, 23:30

Amen :cool:

Heartsong

30th January 2011, 23:38

Harley

30th January 2011, 23:47

Swami

30th January 2011, 23:52

But for me the most interesting thing was what appeared to be a hovering craft, which possibly could have been huge and very high up, in the darkness.

The "UFO" a Hologram.....?

EasternViolet

30th January 2011, 23:58

Beautiful! I stare at the sky all the time, and all I see are stars... lovely just the same. But...

Hard to claim this was a chinese lantern or weather balloon...

Harley

31st January 2011, 00:17

The "UFO" a Hologram.....?

The orb very well may (possibly) have been.

But the "ship" way up high definitely was not.

If it were a hologram they would've had the whole thing lit-up and shining brightly for all to see. Just like some of the so-called "Light Ships" that we've seen videos of. See what I mean?

Swami

31st January 2011, 00:26

The orb very well may (possibly) have been.

But the "ship" way up high definitely was not.

If it were a hologram they would've had the whole thing lit-up and shining brightly for all to see. Just like some of the so-called "Light Ships" that we've seen videos of. See what I mean?

Antigravity wing with holographic projectiontools...?

Tuza

31st January 2011, 00:28

:llama:Tptw and the black ops are sitting there looking at this and not saying much but trying to get experts in now, (ha, ha) to find out why that specific course of action was taken over the dome by the benevolents.

You will see a lot more amazing stuff around the world, but a lot where there are certain objects within.

Also over water.

(Barry please note that down hon). xo

Swami, sweetie pie, just mho but I am certain these are not back engineered craft of ours....you keep coming up with stuff...............but it aint and that's it, in mho ofcourse.

rgray222

31st January 2011, 03:24

John White

31st January 2011, 03:33

Well I've come on just to share something about this

It's funny, you never know what each day might bring

You see, I've seen this exact type of UFO before, 16 years ago

I won't give full details, but I observed one of these for 20 minutes, a white pulsing centre light and 6 or so rotating red balls

This footage is identical in terms of size, luminosity, colour, movement

Wow!

Well ofc some people are going to jump on this footage try n rip it to shreds, but frankly its amazing, 2 independent video sources of the same incident

Has there ever been better footage in the history of ufology?

And my personal experience ties in as well

If it is ours, as in secret tech, well its at least 16 years old, but no, it really feels like visitors

We enter unknown territory

:)

Norsec

31st January 2011, 03:43

What about this one:

http://slumz.boxden.com/f5/jan-30-jerusalem-ufo-vid-hoax-1487109/

Lets see what's coming up next. :)

Lord Sidious

31st January 2011, 03:47

This may be fake but it is highly entertaining, that being said the upward trajectory is too fast for a human to survive. Once again we are not talking about humans! The sporadic and unusual behaviors of UFOs has always been a mystery.

You might be correct, but only if you are talking about the current tech in widespread use.
If antigrav units exist, then what?

shiva777

31st January 2011, 03:57

Is UFO orb over Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem a context communication by ET?

Continue reading on Examiner.com: Is UFO orb over Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem a context communication by ET? - Seattle exopolitics | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/is-ufo-orb-over-dome-of-the-rock-jerusalem-a-context-communication-by-et?CID=examiner_alerts_article#ixzz1Ca8hz27J

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/is-ufo-orb-over-dome-of-the-rock-jerusalem-a-context-communication-by-et?CID=examiner_alerts_article

fifi

31st January 2011, 04:03

I don't know what this is. UFO?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsuyNw1MH-g&feature=player_embedded

omeriko

31st January 2011, 04:46

looks like something else up there on the second video.

Yes. And THAT'S what should be focused on.

Yes. The guys on the first video see it too.
The one holding the camera says "Ah, There's a whole group there, look.", after he shifts the camera up.

Maybe his camera didn't get it because the street lamp was blinding it.
The street lamp is absent on the second video, maybe that's why we can see it there.

Harley

31st January 2011, 05:36

Yes. The guys on the first video see it too.
The one holding the camera says "Ah, There's a whole group there, look.", after he shifts the camera up.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't a group, but was in-fact ONE LARGE OBJECT.

Notice how the red lights at first appeared to be blinking? Watch closer. Either the lights are sequentially blinking, or the entire object is actually rotating, in a counter-clockwise rotation from the cameras pov.

That debunking video sure didn't say anything about that, did they?

slipknotted

31st January 2011, 06:24

cool for sure discloser is vids like this they are everywhere all over the world the goverments of the world have their own agenda not yours not mine.

The Arthen

31st January 2011, 09:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY

3RD VIDEO SURFACES. Weird though, there's no flash before it flew up like in the original video

Lord Sidious

31st January 2011, 09:21

I'm pretty sure that wasn't a group, but was in-fact ONE LARGE OBJECT.

Notice how the red lights at first appeared to be blinking? Watch closer. Either the lights are sequentially blinking, or the entire object is actually rotating, in a counter-clockwise rotation from the cameras pov.

That debunking video sure didn't say anything about that, did they?

I think you are right, it is one large ship and it is in the process of changing it's heading.

Harley

31st January 2011, 09:31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY

3RD VIDEO SURFACES. Weird though, there's no flash before it flew up like in the original video

Thanks Arthen!

Well guys. The debunkers now have three videos of the same event at three different angles. And this one is a close-up!

Sure wish someone could've caught the craft above.

Harley

31st January 2011, 09:42

Oh, and I also can't help thinking that there's something significant with this occurring virtually right on top of the Temple Mount.

Everyone wants disclosure? Well it's happening now.

But I still say BEWARE! Because it just may not turn out to be the kind of disclosure we're looking for!

I'm just saying, be cautious.

Chakra

31st January 2011, 09:52

Gee, I hope when I see a UFO I happen to have my camera mounted on a tripod and have it materialize in the center of the frame. For perspective and balance it was convenient that the male was positioned at 2/3's right.
If it weren't for these issues, I'd love to believe that the sighting was for real and wasn't anticipated.
Am I being too cynical?

Here are two video's to explain why your gut is right and your eyes are not playing tricks on you... it is a fake. Some other clues - blue flash below the orb did not happen on the video where the girls said - I wonder if it is a UFO...

I posted back in October about a craigslist request for people around the world to send in video's of the sky pointing and saying 'OMG is that UFO' it was to be a feature length scifi project... it's also called film school project 101 the green screen class. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=cHOc35nmUDk&annotation_id=annotation_848905

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=nXZ5Ou867dw&annotation_id=annotation_816030

vibrations

31st January 2011, 10:02

As I know, the flashes are very common when there is some kind of interdimensional shift involved. have a loy of friends who presenced a serie of flashes before the opening of some kind of "stargate".

Swami

31st January 2011, 10:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSmdhQ88Ts

vibrations

31st January 2011, 10:22

[QUOTE=Renee;115477]Here are two video's to explain why your gut is right and your eyes are not playing tricks on you... it is a fake. Some other clues - blue flash below the orb did not happen on the video where the girls said - I wonder if it is a UFO...

I posted back in October about a craigslist request for people around the world to send in video's of the sky pointing and saying 'OMG is that UFO' it was to be a feature length scifi project... it's also called film school project 101 the green screen class. :)/QUOTE]

Looking like this it appears like a fake. It looks like they used wiggle expression to mimic unstable han shaking but the speed of shaking is a bit too slow, the shake of the hand is sometimes faster than slower and here everything is the same speed, as you would put some not very good formula in yhe expression field to mimic shake.I wasn't put enough attention before, but now whoever is in video editing to some point can start to see the obvious.

watchZEITGEISTnow

31st January 2011, 10:22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY

3RD VIDEO SURFACES. Weird though, there's no flash before it flew up like in the original video

:neo:

Just saw this one - wow! What are we gonna manifest with this i wonder?

vibrations

31st January 2011, 10:25

sorry for bed edited quote

¤=[Post Update]=¤

This one does not contain the flash. So which one is real.

watchZEITGEISTnow

31st January 2011, 10:28

Which direction would the flash be seen from the one you don't see it in be?

Perhaps it's from the direction they have their backs to ? I dunno ?

Swami

31st January 2011, 10:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqzeed-Iv5E

SKIBADABOMSKI

31st January 2011, 10:41

Swami

31st January 2011, 10:44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E55j1iY_PEs

vibrations

31st January 2011, 10:53

excelen comparation, something is certanly wrong, let's say someone is feeding YouTube little by little to gain the attention. Agenda rolling on.

Swami

31st January 2011, 10:56

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSkvUxi4CHE

Madhouse on Youtube....:becky:

Gajanana

31st January 2011, 11:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqzeed-Iv5E

Quite brilliant! :cool:

Swami

31st January 2011, 11:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSDmhytIPoA

vibrations

31st January 2011, 11:01

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSkvUxi4CHE

Madhouse on Youtube....:becky:

Yes, the flash has different origin point than the orb, but please explain what you wanted to show here apart of that.

Swami

31st January 2011, 11:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwdN7DyNAbU

What do you think, is this gonne hit MSM...?

modwiz

31st January 2011, 11:08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwdN7DyNAbU

What do you think, is this gonne hit MSM...?

Being called a fake is a sure way to get some MSM air time. I think there is still some schizo behavior on TV. Old school it's fake mentality with new school getting us ready for disclosure thinking.

That reverse exposure added another dimension to it in the sky shot after it reascended.

Swami

31st January 2011, 11:10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqSINih4924

modwiz

31st January 2011, 11:18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqSINih4924

I am stuck with the impression that something is being pointed out there. A sort of "pay attention" vibe to it.

Swami

31st January 2011, 11:20

I am stuck with the impression that something is being pointed out there. A sort of "pay attention" vibe to it.

Attention it gets....
I'm curious what will become of this one.....
Ive seen hypes before but this one is still gathering speed.....

Harley

31st January 2011, 11:23

Hi!

I was just looking at all three more closely. I'm no video expert.

1. Camera is far from target. The foreground movement definitely doesn't match the background movement. Could this mis-match have been an optical illusion in itself? I don't know. There appeared to be multiple flashes starting from left.

2. Camera is slightly closer to target and from different angle. I see no foreground to compare to background. I seen two distinct flashes starting from the left. In this vid these flashes almost appeared to be like reflections on a window. Possibly this camera was inside and filming through a window and the flashes we see here were reflections. If true this would indicate to me that the flashes did not originate near the Temple itself, otherwise they would have appeared as direct flashes and not reflections on a window.

In both 1. and 2. The videos appear to be pretty much the same. They both start out with the orb high in the sky, the orb descends, you see the flashes and the orb shoots up, and then both videos follow it up and show the lights up above. It IS slightly curious to me that both operators seemed to start, follow, and stop there recordings so similarly. However THEY WERE OBVIOUSLY at different angles and distances from the target.

3. Camera is MUCH closer. May be notable that they are English-Speaking American tourists. The conversation sounded very normal to me for an exciting event such as this. I couldn't detect anything odd comparing foreground to background. And finally, the lack of flashes in this vid might indicate to me that the flashes may have originated somewhere further out from the Temple, possibly even somewhere behind the camera, and that might explain why the other two cameras picked them up and this one did not. And did you see the way that orb was pulsating? One woman said "It's hard to look at"!

Like I said, it's just my simple, layman's observation.

And don't forget, I'm human too! :)

Harley

yaksuit

31st January 2011, 11:26

Regardless of this being a fake or not. This is nothing to whats coming soon. Wait till some school gets zapped or something and filmed by several cameras as the news shows clips of screaming mothers pointing up to the sky. Sorry just had that vision but thats when you'll see how only a small minority will believe that the government are behind it.

Harley your predictions are looking more and more likely. This could very well be just man made orbs that can be controlled and can inflict waves of (lets say curiousness) for now but if the people around that sighting start getting injuries and the media have a free path to display it then I guess it's time and The false flagging of ETs really has started.

A thought came to mind:

In regards to a false Flag alien/ET attack (Harleys thread on this is closed or I would have posted there), Do you think any potential sun "activity" which could affect say power grid failures would be potentially used as part of a false flag alien/ET threat?

If the MSM and the "mainstream" "buys" into something like this I can imagine everything from earthquakes to floods being part of the "attack".

It seems that if we share as to what "could" happen intuitively (cheers Harley), then a different course of action and subsequent "events" may or may not result.

Flash Gordon 1980, seems apt ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo19dW27B0s

Harley

31st January 2011, 11:39

A thought came to mind:

In regards to a false Flag alien/ET attack (Harleys thread on this is closed or I would have posted there)

Hey Everyone!

My False Flag thread is still open and as far as I know will remain so:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9653-False-Flag-Alien-Threat-To-Frame-The-ETs-As-Enemies

The one that is closed (but is still viewable) is the one that Bill posted which included Charles' comments on my article:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11154-Charles-comments-about-a-False-Flag-ET-threat-event-important-new-information

Thanks!

bluestflame

31st January 2011, 11:51

conceivably they could put HAARP into overdrive( finally acknowledge the technology exists) and blame it on the "ets" appearing to be using some form of (detected through "our own"instruments) scalar technology to cause localised and intense , etc. , etc.,

I guess we'l see how this plays out in the media , then we'll have a better idea about what's actually going on , by how they "market " it

watchZEITGEISTnow

31st January 2011, 11:54

Isn't the 2nd one (same view as the 1st) the guy IN the 1st one being filmed - whilst he is filming the same event?

That's what made me look twice - and then the 3rd from close up i was like wow!

yaksuit

31st January 2011, 11:58

John White

31st January 2011, 12:10

Well it all looks legit enough to me

We have Vid one with the high quality distance view, vid 2 which I would speculate is the mobile footage from the guy in the foreground in vid 1, and vid 3 which looks to be on the other side of the UFO close up to the dome itself... on vid 3 the flash source is out of view.

The flash source looks to me like ground based fire at the object, and I think there is some kind of echo from that, especially in vid 2

¤=[Post Update]=¤

And as mentioned, I've seen one of these myself 16 year ago... so if the vid's are fakes they are fakes of something I've seen, and to get it so accurate, the vid makers must have some hard intel. So a highly organised hoax.... starting to stretch credulity

bluestflame

31st January 2011, 12:24

gigawatt

31st January 2011, 12:29

A 3rd video has surfaced

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY

Close up. The reaction of the crowd is convincing enough for me.

watchZEITGEISTnow

31st January 2011, 12:36

the people who are in all these videos should come forward now i feel...
:)

yaksuit

31st January 2011, 12:39

i've actually seen them like the one shown ( minus the flash) hovered same about 25-20 sec , then took off like a shooting star like a ball of light but the light was sorta self contained

¤=[Post Update]=¤

☼ yaksuit: , i'll correct it., H.A.A.R.P

cheers Bluestflame ;)

As you mentioned that you have seen "them" like the ones shown in the clip minus the flash. I will have to concur, I have seen quite a few dating back to the early 90's.

I have not always been alone when I have witnessed "them" which was initially the case and therefore harder to describe let alone make sense to someone who hasn't seen something of this nature. Since about Nov 2009 I have been seeing "them" more frequently and often there are multiples of "them" that are visible at anyone one time. I am in western Australia, where in Australia are you if that's okay with you Bluestflame.
cheers
yak

bluestflame

31st January 2011, 12:40

i remember Uri Geller claimed to have worked with ets , maybe we'll see him on tv again , he's an Isralie (remember the spoon bending and watch stopping )

☼Yaksuit: Ballarat , I seen them about 15 years ago also , seen a cigar shaped one about 8-10 ft long with two lights either end of it , orange and blue one end , then blue and orange the other ( like diagonally the colours were same , lights were blinking slowly and it flew biggest side forwards , not the pointy end .

it was dull silvery colour and i could see like a blue squarish panel on the underside , it was about 25-30ft off the ground and flew slow and steady about fast walking pace , i got the sense it was like a probe or scanner , though what it was scanning for i do not now

there was another one a few weeks earlier that made the streets go out as it was going over a power line , whole street lost power , that was a lot higher in the air

yaksuit

31st January 2011, 12:48

i remember Uri Geller claimed to have worked with ets , maybe we'll see him on tv again , he's an Isralie (remember the spoon bending and watch stopping )

I emailed Uri Geller a couple of times about ten years ago. I asked him did he see 11:11 on the clock much.
He was polite with his reply. I checked his website again a year later and he had included a lot of ideas regarding 11:11.
Trivial story but I did found it interesting at the "time". :)

bluestflame

31st January 2011, 12:57

be interesting to start a thread on the history of the temple mount , dome rock , mt sinnai , i get the feeling there's gunna be a lot of press not just about the "cellestial navigational craft "

gigawatt

31st January 2011, 13:08

I went through the posts - perhaps I missed the comment I am about to post.

In the original video, after the flash and the UFO leaves the frame. The guy filming moves his camera towards the sjy for a few seconds.

If you notice, there is a triangular object with red flashing lights which then begins to swirl.

Have any of you noticed? Most of the attention is on the the "orb" object.

If my reading through PA&PC are correct, the triangular obect/craft is already to be known technology within our Military ( our Militray = human militray regardless of country)

modwiz

31st January 2011, 13:17

Limor Wolf

31st January 2011, 14:41

i am having problems writing this message..twice i've been thrown out from the computure.so i will do this one quick.
this post went unnoticed by me untill Lord sidious turned my attention to it by asking me to translate what's being said.for me this seems real and the conversation sounds natural according to
the circumstances.here is the translated video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0lEqR1Oy3I&feature=player_embedded

what they are saying is as follows:
"i dont know,its forbidden to fly over there,unless its a police helicopter over there on the mountain"
"no,there was nothing over there before,its not a helicopter,no way,look what a strange light it has"
"what is it?"
"it looks like a ball of light"
"what is this crazy thing?"
"Ron,do you believe it? what is this thing?"
"look,its moving,its moving,its going down"
"whow"
"have you seen this?"
"there is a whole group of them now,look"
"what is it?"

funny, about two month ago i saw this and wrote about it here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6530-How-many-of-you-see-UFO-s&p=98005#post98005

it seems white sepherical ufo's apears in israel, but also very simiar to the ones that been seen in manhattan-NYC on december 2010 and in other places.

Nortreb

31st January 2011, 14:52

Great post! Thanks

bilko

31st January 2011, 15:26

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY

3RD VIDEO SURFACES. Weird though, there's no flash before it flew up like in the original video

I think its a voiceover.
Why would she say" is that a ufo?" and then they all act like its the fourth of July fireworks when it flies off? There was no fear .
Also the light is a different colour to the one in the first vid. Also it moves in initially too fast ( trying to over compensate for the distance).

Also it slips off the dome on its descent, not in the first vid and it flies off at the wrong angle.
Also there are no flashes as in the second vid.

Also the orb just looks like something white that has been copied and pasted into the frame, it looks like an animation.
Also i'm sure it stays there for a longer amount of time in the first video.

Wouldn't the light be fired upon immediately by guards?

Transdimensional Bean Pod

31st January 2011, 15:30

I can't speak to the authenticity of the video, but I CAN say that this is pretty much what the UFO's I saw looked like.

To me, this falls into the 'organic entity' category.

Then again, when I described what I saw to a guy I know 'on the inside', he assured me this is man made.

I think he's full of it, but that's what I got to offer.

bilko

31st January 2011, 15:32

SKIBADABOMSKI

31st January 2011, 15:42

I think its a voiceover.
Why would she say" is that a ufo?" and then they all act like its the fourth of July fireworks when it flies off? There was no fear .
Also the light is a different colour to the one in the first vid. Also it moves in initially too fast ( trying to over compensate for the distance).

Also it slips off the dome on its descent, not in the first vid and it flies off at the wrong angle.

Also there are no flashes as in the second vid.

Also the orb just looks like something white that has been copied and pasted into the frame, it looks like an animation.
Also i'm sure it stays there for a longer amount of time in the first video.

Wouldn't the light be fired upon immediately by guards?

It's only an orb of light. I wouldn't run screaming would you? I'd think it was a display of some sort and maybe a UFO but only maybe. Yeah later on I'd be like " wow you should of seen it I was freaked man and then it shot up and it was massive and and and... see where am going here.

vbt

31st January 2011, 15:56

Yes, thank you for the translation. I was wondering what they were saying as they saw something of this nature. At first I thought, wow, best footage ever. Then I thought of the Australian wave of a few years ago. It turned out to be a film maker testing people's gullibility. His videos were so convincing, well most of them.

I'm pretty sure this is restricted air space. Do we know if the Israeli military sent out jets up there?

Swami

31st January 2011, 16:56

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MuMoJrR6F4

......."Weve seen 'm in Mississippi like this..."......................:twitch:

Transdimensional Bean Pod

31st January 2011, 17:01

I think its a voiceover.
Why would she say" is that a ufo?" and then they all act like its the fourth of July fireworks when it flies off? There was no fear .
Also the light is a different colour to the one in the first vid. Also it moves in initially too fast ( trying to over compensate for the distance).

Also it slips off the dome on its descent, not in the first vid and it flies off at the wrong angle.
Also there are no flashes as in the second vid.

Also the orb just looks like something white that has been copied and pasted into the frame, it looks like an animation.
Also i'm sure it stays there for a longer amount of time in the first video.

Wouldn't the light be fired upon immediately by guards?

That's similar to what I saw, and I didn't feel fear. Just, disbelief. I'm uncertain why this is a lynchpin to you.

bilko

31st January 2011, 19:27

TBP - Hi
I can't give exact examples and my off the wall comparisons seem rather vague i'll admit.
I guess it just doesn't feel right to me, something seems fishy to me i don't know what.

That was my first instinct with the first and third video. If i'd have seen the second without the other two i wouldn't even be questioning it.
I'm going with my gut on this until convinced otherwise.

NinjaPhil

1st February 2011, 00:15

Living near to a UK M.O.D. site that had a runway many years ago, I saw many interesting types of craft... no doubt that there are things out there that are Alien in origin and also human and way above the tech level of what we know about. I find it interesting how many sightings there have been since the new year however...

Studeo

1st February 2011, 00:30

romina

1st February 2011, 01:02

My contribution to this thread....

I saw this minus flash this summer at 3 am chilling on my balcony. Ball of light stopped in the sky (didn't come down on anything)....that caught my eye so I watched...it was rather big, bigger then any star in the sky and then it shot off at a speed just like this.
Now, this was over my city which has a population of one NY building and at 3 am nobody saw it but me (people go to sleep here with the chickens) ...so it was not for the show or for purposes of a hoax....but this event I witnessed does not prove it was ET...it might have been terrestrial as much as extraterrestrial.

John White

1st February 2011, 02:30

Motion tracked the horizon so that it stays in one spot. Notice how the angle of the edge of the wall changes, but the angle of the horizon stays the same, THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. Unless he is on a boat, or is in a super large Earthquake, the angle of the horizon and the edge of the wall should remain locked together. Because they don't, this means the entire horizon is fake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHOc35nmUDk

Not too convinced by this explanation.... respiration accounts for the lower wobble and the slight rotate, but the relative change in the Horizon is going to be far less, certainly not overly noticable... also the movement of the lower red line is being exaggerated. With someone calling themeselves "Hoaxkiller" some objectivity questions should be asked

Here's the source vid again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ

I see plenty of Horizon wobble... is "hoaxkiller" gaming the evidence for his own ends? Its been known to happen... critics aren't always the most honest people, they have a paradigm to defend....

But then I do concur I am having to check my own objectivity having seen one of these 16 years ago... patience will reveal all

dadoffourkids

1st February 2011, 03:04

Link to one of the Lima videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXRPzPKD4Zk

dadoffourkids

1st February 2011, 03:08

It helps to view the orginal video in 720p and then in full screen. Otherwise, its hard to see the triangle craft at the end when the camera pans toward the sky. This may be why some persons never see the craft only focus on the white round ball probe.

shiva777

1st February 2011, 03:26

ANOTHER VERY SIMILAR SIGHTING IN uTAH ON JAN 28..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyWd6wZw6c

LM-R

1st February 2011, 15:29

Very similar indeed.

58andfixed

2nd February 2011, 02:56

[CENTER]

There is a 2nd separate source of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2FFEufsuY

48s 231,799 views

Posted January 30, 2011.

- 58

guayabal

2nd February 2011, 05:15

Here is the 4th:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYEOLwgGzPg

E.Yes

2nd February 2011, 06:17

I think its a voiceover.
Why would she say" is that a ufo?" and then they all act like its the fourth of July fireworks when it flies off? There was no fear .
Also the light is a different colour to the one in the first vid. Also it moves in initially too fast ( trying to over compensate for the distance).

Also it slips off the dome on its descent, not in the first vid and it flies off at the wrong angle.
Also there are no flashes as in the second vid.

Also the orb just looks like something white that has been copied and pasted into the frame, it looks like an animation.
Also i'm sure it stays there for a longer amount of time in the first video.

Wouldn't the light be fired upon immediately by guards?

This video is made from a still, flat image with an animated craft. Seen at 1080p, the image is clearly not live. There is no movement in the city lights--the lens flares should follow the lens, not the city itself. And the surface of the screen the still image was shot from is visible.

Lord Sidious

2nd February 2011, 09:06

This video is made from a still, flat image with an animated craft. Seen at 1080p, the image is clearly not live. There is no movement in the city lights--the lens flares should follow the lens, not the city itself. And the surface of the screen the still image was shot from is visible.

I had a look at the fourth one in the post above and yes, there is no lens flare.
That in itself is interesting.

bluestflame

2nd February 2011, 11:16

Limor Wolf

2nd February 2011, 17:18

Hey all,
a news item yesterday (http://net.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=777326 )on one of the main news channels internet websight in israel supposedly made a photoshop check for the "jerusalem-temple mound ufo" video,their claims is its absolutly fake.they started with something like this:
"Three different testimonies! this time it will be hard to argue that this is fake.."

their conclusions were as follows-
the sound was convincing(checking the background voices),if its an act,its a very good one.
however:
if compering the two videos -there is no match! the duration of time the ufo is hovering over the temple mound is shorter in one of them.also,no flash of light on the second video (the tourist one) and there are other reliability problems:the camera is moving,also the ufo,but nothing else does! no cars are moving,no flashlight,no other things that by 'optical law' are suppose to move.
another thing:at the 28 second of the first video(the guys) the image looks pixeled,like a computure screen and a photo of jerusalem.
and this is exactly what can be found on Wikimedia commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jerusalem_night_7088.JPG)the angle of this photo and the video one are exactly accurate.this specific photo was probably used to fake the video.

i do not know if this so called photoshop check is reliable enough ,but they sure had some convincing point!

i,myself do not get excited too much over you tubes showing hovering "crafts" or even by seeing those exceptional things with my own eyes.(i did lately)
i am for the real contact

modwiz

2nd February 2011, 17:27

LunarCrystal

2nd February 2011, 17:48

So, have we concluded that this video is fake or real?

I personally like to keep an open mind, while still being skeptical of anything put in front of me. The fourth video of the close up shot was exciting and convincing to me, but I am not necessarily a video expert (amateur video editor is all).

If it's real, well, I can't wait to see what happens next. If it's fake, then I guess I'll just wait for the next sensational UFO video.

Peace. Namaste. :)

kooky

3rd February 2011, 02:20

If it is a fake then they have obviously went to a lot of effort to make it look convincing.

LM-R

3rd February 2011, 03:49

A SHINING ball of light has been filmed hovering above a Jerusalem shrine, in footage which UFO enthusiasts say could finally prove aliens exist.

The clips show the pulsating orb descend and hover above the Dome of the Rock, an ancient Islamic shrine, before shooting up into the night sky. It then descends again and disappears.

Unusually, the sighting has been filmed from different viewpoints, meaning it has been more difficult to dismiss than most.

The footage was taken in Jerusalem at 1am on Saturday morning and has spread like wildfire on the internet.

It has been viewed by hundreds of thousands of people and prompted fierce debate among UFO enthusiasts and sceptics.

Former Ministry of Defence UFO investigator Nick Pope told The Sun: 'If these are real, they are some of the most incredible videos ever shot.

'If they are not, then this is a very well-planned and co-ordinated hoax designed to eliminate elements of doubt.'

He said the way the object shoots up suggests it is unmanned: 'We know the Israeli army has some very high-tech drones at its disposal.

'If this is one, it is one of the most advanced pieces of technology created by man.'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/shining-light-proof-aliens-are-on-earth/story-e6frev00-1225999404555

The daily telegraph is probably the most bought newspaper in Sydney.
A very interesting statement by Nick Pope about the Israeli military.

mcaballero

3rd February 2011, 04:00

I'd like to repost this:

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I'd like to tell you some technical details of how a fake alien spaceship (or fake deity) can be projected in space. I'd also like to tell you what peculiarities these projections have, so it is easy to recognize them.

In order to produce a projection in 3D space one needs to control the photon density. There have been several public attempts of doing so (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volumetric_display), the military recognizes how important such a projection is (from air traffic control to "denial and deception"), but the holy grail for achieving this is not publicly available.

I suppose you are all acquainted with x-ray tomography. This technology works by combining a large number of 2D x-ray images into a 3D representation. Some details of how this works are explained here (the maths are not simple): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomographic_reconstruction

It happens that the principle of tomographic reconstruction also works the other way: it is possible to project a 3D image by using a large number of 2D projectors. This is the principle of volumetric projection.

For the projection to work, a contrast medium is required. This can be smoke or steam.

What do these projections look like? They are not opaque, as the principle of volumetric projection uses 2D projectors. They have a ghostly aspect, similar to what a laser show looks like, except that in this case you don't get to see where the lasers come from. These projections are transparent, it is possible to see through them. Depending on the number of projectors, the image quality can be very high. Objects with rotational symmetry tend to be easier to project than irregular shapes. They can be in full color. They are much more visible during the night. Their brightness depends on the density of the contrast medium. It is relatively cheap to produce them. And they don't show up on radars, as photon density is the only thing being controlled.

I hope you find this information valuable.

theguardian

3rd February 2011, 04:22

I have the Feeling that this could be our own Technology, Perhaps 3d Projection, who knows

bilko

3rd February 2011, 04:25

mrmalco

3rd February 2011, 14:29

I also think that flash was bigger than a camera flash.

..Nick..

So did I - and is there a tiny up-down judder in the light before it shoots upwards?

mrmalco

3rd February 2011, 14:42

On second 39, left side of the screen, just before the flash above Dome.....; Is there another flash....?

Second 40 - there's a glow to the left. Immediately thereafter a flash in the centre.

John White

3rd February 2011, 15:34

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1353047/UFOs-Shining-white-ball-spotted-Jerusalem-shrine.html

The story made it to the national press in my country too

Interesting to have comments from Nick Pope, who was part of the plenary session at global competitiveness forum http://www.gcf.org.sa/en/Program/Program/Welcoming--Networking--0800---900112112/ on sunday Jan 23rd 2011

John White

3rd February 2011, 15:39

Just observing that there is a definite break in the film before the ufo shot which seems odd as there are no other breaks in the film. Around 4.32 i think.

I agree. Bizarely enough its always possible the filmer turned his camcorder OFF then turned it back on... people do this kind of thing. Hes filming his friends mucking about in their car... not something outside... then he turns it back on. But yes, its going to raise issues about this film

Still 4 films now... only 1 need not be faked :P I feel the credibility rests on the original cam footage and the cell phone footage from the phone seen held in the foreground in can 1... the 3rd and 4th films could be supporting evidence, or could be "cashing" in

Sadly it's easy to mess about and fake things... especially when you know what to fake (original footage as reference)... equally all four films could be on the level

The crucial thing for me remains having seen this myself 16 years ago

Was it ET? Was it one of ours? Was it bluebeam? Is bluebeam faking "real" ET's? etc

highvoltage

3rd February 2011, 17:01

I have watched three of the videos, to me they all three look like the same event filmed at different locations. I hope this is the start of a even larger increase in sightings!

Kulapops

3rd February 2011, 17:16

Someone said...'unusually, this event was shot from two perspectives...'

And that's what you notice about hoaxes, there's always something 'unusual' or unique about them. This is the USP (unique selling point) that is so bright, so vivid , that it allows you to suspend rational thought long enough to believe in it.

So this is real genius, it's the first time I've heard of one event shot from two places - and it gets around the usual 'that could have been photoshopped'...when we see just one amazing video, because we say to ourselves ' how can it be fake if TWO people have filmed it ?!!!'

Well, stare at the magician long enough and you'll think of something.

Like for example... how many people are looking at the temple mount at one time on average? In a city ?? In the Holy City??? Well, surely that must be hundreds if not thousands?

And if you'd taken the trouble to make such an important trip, surely you'd take your camera with you?

And in this day and age of our Big Brother existence, just how many CCTV cameras do you suppose are pointed on the Temple mount 24/7 ?

So realistically, I'd say for this one, if it really happened, you'd be looking at hundreds of films and stills, which all map from a hundred different directions.

Not four or five.

And what about eye witness accounts from those who saw, but didn't snap?

K

P.S. Other 'unique hoaxes'... alien craft that dive into water (cool), a pyramid hanging over the Kremlin (oh yeah... they spend all their timejust chillin' over important sites of national security, yeah!) twig like aliens - in a forest !! (also cool) Now twig aliens in a city would be even better, surely ?! ;)

Lefty Dave

3rd February 2011, 19:17

Greetings
Saw a post at ATS that points out that the video appears to be that of a picture of Jerusalem...with video overdub...lights on the ground seem fixed...before object appears..
your thoughts please
Blessings

p.s. a few days have passed...seen several versions of the same event...and in one of them...everything looks as live footage... car lights moving on the street, etc..so now, I am at a loss as to what to think...WHICH IS JUST WHERE THEY WANT ME !!LOL...:help:

Lord Sidious

3rd February 2011, 19:39

muxfolder

3rd February 2011, 21:07

So it's likely this is made by a group of people who are trying to get publicity with this video? I think this is very similar to the video which was filmed in Utah.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13117-UFO-Filmed-Over-Utah-military-base-closed-after-UFO-is-spotted

Lifebringer

3rd February 2011, 21:14

Someone needs to drop it on the facebook to help with disclosure.

Any takers?

That's if this is about letting people know. Seeing is believing, eh?

guayabal

3rd February 2011, 23:10

An interesting analysis of the 4th video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKR1OIQFsFg

John White

4th February 2011, 02:35

Another example of "hoax killer" trying really hard... sadly it can't come down to whether something could be faked

Of the four films that have come to light, the close up view with the tourists voice is the weakest however

Little Ishta

4th February 2011, 04:45

I came across this video, shown zoomed in and slowed down, it looks real enough to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4xpG88jMOU&feature=related

AlexanderLight

4th February 2011, 15:25

All four videos + synchronization here:
http://humansarefree.com/2011/02/ufo-over-jerusalem-january-28th-2011-4.html

Swami

4th February 2011, 16:28

All four videos + synchronization here:
http://humansarefree.com/2011/02/ufo-over-jerusalem-january-28th-2011-4.html

Thx ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jslV3Vj0PbM

dreldas

4th February 2011, 19:34

I am wondering if anyone else finds this odd....I have just become a member of Avalon, I started watching this video at 6:50AM EST. Just before the sphere shoots skyward, my television turns on by itself...The movie Taken had just begun....the television has never spontaneously turned on before...it is only 4 months old, so there should not be any kind of malfunction. I felt that this was an interesting development...any thoughts?

One

4th February 2011, 20:19

An interesting analysis of the 4th video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKR1OIQFsFg Please! If I dismissed this on the basis of this video I really would be a sheep.

Firstly it could have been a digital zoom anyway. Secondly they had to move the position and size of that red circle when the camera zoomed in and out (or didn't). I hope that was correct. Thirdly the camera may be trying to correct shake using image stabilization. Not that any of that matters given this evidence.

You will notice that the wolf in the film at the end looks slightly unatural. It also goes straight past a cat you can just see 10 miles away in the background. I think with further analysis it will be proved it is a cleverly designed automaton. This is obviously a 100% fake debunking video created by a dog (hence no commentry).

modwiz

4th February 2011, 20:27

guayabal

4th February 2011, 20:44

If the ufo is the source of the big light flashes then why do the city lights appear brighter during them? I would expect the city lights to be less visible during the flashes. I'm not an expert, what do you think?
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4756/noflash.png
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5976/flashqk.png

One

4th February 2011, 21:01

If the ufo is the source of the big light flashes then why do the city lights appear brighter during them? I would expect the city lights to be less visible during the flashes. I'm not an expert, what do you think?

I'm no expert either but it looks natural enough to me. The lights below the craft (fake or otherwise) would be adding to the light produced by the object and merging into one and producing the effect seen in the photo. I'm not explaining what I mean very well. I think you would see the effect in other photos perhaps? The increase in the average amount of light in the area is increasing the intensity of the other lights perhaps is what I mean.

guayabal

5th February 2011, 00:30

I think you would see the effect in other photos perhaps?
That's my point... I think I won't see the same effect on other videos ;-)
I also think that such a powerful flash should have brought a lot of extra detail not visible when the flash wasn't present. I don't see that extra detail.

Etherios

5th February 2011, 00:34

i still cant see the fake part some here keep repeating. we have many videos from different point of views and so far we have found no link between them. So is it possible for different ppl to coordinate and make several fake videos just to do what?

Anyway 1 step closer to enough ppl realizing we are not alone in the universe. Who cares if it s fake or not.

modwiz

5th February 2011, 00:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH_eUxwe1DI&feature=player_embedded

skip past the first four minutes where they are playing car games on a night out

.......................

and this observation from Whitley Streiber in reference to yet another video

http://www.unknowncountry.com/out-there/another-video-jerusalem-ufo-dramatic

I like this video for a unique view. Doesn't appear like a hoax to me. I am no expert though.

The flashes happen right after 4:47 on this video. Play it a few times and the first flash happens in the foreground and the second one in the distance a bit.

It almost seems like a beam that fires in the foreground and then finds some coherence at a set point in the not so distant background.

It is best to look into the background only to see it. You can watch it multiple times. Just pull the timer back to 4:47 and watch for a few seconds.

fifi

5th February 2011, 01:18

Another UFO news on mainstream media

http://oddnews.yahoo.com/video-odd-news-24057563

Is the disclosure starting?

fifi

5th February 2011, 01:28

More UFO news. This time in India.

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/02/india-ufo-sighting-airlines-pilots.html

Five different airlines flight pilots confirm UFO sighting over India on 26 January, 2011

According to media reports A glowing round object making a speedy descent near the West Bengal-Bihar border early on January 26 left pilots of five aircraft baffled, triggering widespread speculation about UFO.

The first person to sight the object was a senior Air India pilot who was navigating the aircraft at a height of 34,000 ft during its flight from Kolkata to New Delhi.

“The plane was just entering the airspace of Gaya, close to Bengal-Bihar border, when I first noticed the glowing object, below the aircraft, hurtling down at a very high speed,” Captain Rishi was quoted as saying by the Air Traffic Control (ATC) Tower here at Dum Dum International Airport.

The Air India pilot initially didn’t pay much attention as it is customary for the pilots to notice several such things midair. But when the aircraft was close to Varanasi, the object was still brightly visible.

Without wasting time, he informed the Varanasi Air Traffic Control from where ATC, Kolkata, was alerted.

The officials at ATC pondered over whether pilots of other international flights that might have crossed the Kolkata-Bihar-Varanasi route, had also observed the glowing object reported by Capt Rishi.

Accordingly, the ATC, Kolkata, beamed asking signals for other international flights that flew the same airspace during the period concerned.

To their utter surprise, the air traffic control officials were told by as many as four foreign airlines flight pilots that they had seen the same object and all of them reiterated that it was falling down at a great speed!

FinAir of Finland and Novou Air of Sweden were flying from the West to East while a couple of flights of Cathay Pacific and Dynasty Airways of China were moving in the opposite direction at an altitude between 34,000 and 37,000 ft over the airspace supposed to be in the trajectory of the object.

Once the foreign airlines pilots radioed back the ATC tower here, confirming their sighting of the object, ATC engineers immediately got in touch with the Indian Air Force. However, the IAF engineers pointed out that their powerful radar had failed to track or notice any unusual object.

_M_

5th February 2011, 09:30

Motion tracked the horizon so that it stays in one spot. Notice how the angle of the edge of the wall changes, but the angle of the horizon stays the same, THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. Unless he is on a boat, or is in a super large Earthquake, the angle of the horizon and the edge of the wall should remain locked together. Because they don't, this means the entire horizon is fake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHOc35nmUDk

Ok - I am a video camera expert.

The warping lines suggest more that this camera probably has a CMOS sensor.

CMOS sensors employ what is known as a "ROLLING SHUTTER."

(A sensor is pretty much the retina of the camera.)

When the camera READS the information off a CMOS sensor it reads that information SEQUENTIALLY from the top of the image down. In other words the pixels at the TOP of the picture happened earlier in time than the pixels at the BOTTOM of the picture. Depending on how fast or slow the CMOS chip is you can get some HUGE picture warpings. (A lot of people call it Jello cam, because the image can look like wobbling jelly).

So, if its a hoax, that's not necessarily where to find it

(Oh, and pretty much ALL handicams and small devices are CMOS based these days - the other sensor type you'd come across are CCD's, which are on more expensive cameras, or older DV cameras (unless it says CMOS). CCD's don't do wobble cam because they have a GLOBAL SHUTTER - they sample the chip all at once - no time distorted movements)

loveandgratitude

5th February 2011, 11:59

UFO DISABLING A NUKE IN THE MOSQUE.....

Feb. 3, 2011: I and ZS Livingstone were part of Don Nicoloff's Evident Footprints internet radio show last night on BBS Radio. Don happened to come across this video clip a couple of days ago and told me that he recognized that the UFO seen over the Temple Mount mosque was the type of craft used by General Jeremiah and the United Galactic Federation, Galaxy of Hendon. Don talked with General Jeremiah on the phone about the incident and the general confirmed that he was in the ship and that he and his co-pilot had undertaken a mission to disable and destroy a nuclear device which had been secreted in the basement of the mosque by fanatical moslem individuals about 15 years ago (according to Don) and not Israeli agents, as one might suspect. Don wanted to explain to his radio audience what happened at the Temple Mount mosque and General Jeremiah told him that it was OK if he wanted to go public with the story.

According to Don, the motivation of the fanatical moslem group who had planted the suitcase nuclear bomb (which Don suspects might be Russian in origin) was a Doomsday revenge weapon in the event that Israel would take over the mosque and set the stage for the rebuilding of Solomon's temple, a long time 'prophecy' of the Zionist-concocted Armageddon scenario.

The details of the Temple Mount event are explained by Don Nicoloff during our Feb. 2, 2011 radio show which you can access from this link:

Ken Adachi, ZS Livingstone, & Don Nicoloff in Conversation Feb. 2, 2011
http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/KenAdachiZSL02feb11interview.mp3

During the second half of the above radio show, Don Nicoloff refers to his Feb. 1, 2011 radio show in which he highlights interviews with two former KGB agents. That show can be heard at this link:

modwiz

5th February 2011, 12:08

I will not question the veracity of the report or the good intentions of the poster, but this story elicits a feeling of vertigo for me.

take

5th February 2011, 12:21

Any witnesses here? Anyone who was there and saw/didn't see anything?
If it's real, then it's IMO classic conditioning, regardless of who performed it and how. If it's fake, could be just for gags, to get publicity, or again conditioning (or at least an attempt).
Juts sharing my random thoughts.
Take care.

math330

5th February 2011, 17:42

It'll probably turn out to be an ad campaign from Coke :p

For what it's worth, there was a comment on the 4th video that made me think - maybe one of the clips is planted and can be easily 'debunked' to sow doubt.. just a thought

Leon

5th February 2011, 22:37

Hard to say what it is, but there seem to be 4 different cameras looking at this and it is hard to tell from the positions the relationship of the object. the closest with the American tourist may not see the flash due to their location.
I did find this on a Swiss site: http://www.20min.ch/news/kreuz_und_quer/story/15620199

vbt

6th February 2011, 18:43

There is another video of the same event on youtube, a video that is obviously a hoax. So now people will say that the two first ones were hoaxes too. I am not into video editing but wouldn't it be extra hard to coordinate these two videos that precisely? The flash is not directly under the ball of light. I would love to know what that was.

Lefty Dave

6th February 2011, 23:06

dreldas.......you probably sat on the 'clicker' !!!

Psychonautilus

6th February 2011, 23:23

This is indeed a very interesting series of videos. When I first saw them I was really impressed, and along with the other videos and similar events (such as the one in Utah on the same night) it seemed that something pretty remarkable was happening. Such a marked event could be very significant in a number of ways, making it all the more sensitive and subject to controversy.

Most of the controversy and suspicion is centered around the ''fourth video''. This is the dramatic, close up footage which originally had american voices in the background, but has been duplicated and edited a number of times by people who claim it's a fake. I can no longer locate the 'original' video that I saw, but upon closer inspection of this footage and the evidence put forth, this video does appear to have had its audio dubbed on, with video that appears illegitimate and is inconsistent with the original footage.

This could mean a number of things, but in keeping with my skeptical yet optimistic outlook, and considering all of the possibilities, I propose the following:

A real UFO sighting occurred over the Temple Mount, as is depicted in the first video. This video was clear, convincing, dramatic and compelling. Soon after, another video from a different source and a slightly different perspective surfaced, corroborating the first and giving credibility to the event as a whole.

At this point in time, the videos began to garner widespread publicity due to their clarity and the unique nature of the event. Soon after, it 'arrived on someone's desk' on the 'problems to be solved' pile. Given the viral and unique nature of the videos, and their (assumed) legitimacy, it was decided that trying to simply debunk and discredit the originals was not going to sell.

Therefore, the aim was to contaminate the issue by associating it with manufactured and questionable material. Stills or sections from one of the original videos were taken, re-framed and overlaid with a digitally created object, audio samples are dubbed on - thus creating a very similar scenario. At first glance the video appears to be a convincing close up of the same event, but contains minor yet discernible inconsistencies: the shape of the craft is more elliptical than spherical, it appears to pulsate more than the original/s, there is no flash before the craft shoots away, the vista appears pixelated and static (as if taken from a still) - and the audio appears to have been overdubbed at a later date.

What better way to discredit legitimate UFO footage? Simply use the original source material to construct sensational but inherently flawed copies, then publicize them as the same event. There is no requirement for all the material to be definitively discredited; As long as the term 'debunked' has been associated with the event as a whole, most people will choose to feel satisfied that it's a hoax, or at the very least will doubt its authenticity.

An event that might have conveyed a clear and striking message to the whole of humanity will now be relegated to the ranks of speculation and argumentative review.

If this was indeed the case, as I tend to think it might have been given that the original video appears to be solid and untouched by the analysts, it would follow that the event itself was something quite real and quite out of their control - hence this desperate bid to muddy the waters and throw people off the trail.

JohnBlues

7th February 2011, 00:03

I was leaning towards the same conclusions as you Psychonautilus, I saw the original two "un-tainted" videos first when I found out about this, then all these debunking videos came out and they didn't even look the same (everything you stated above).

IMO it's real

Sir Eltor

7th February 2011, 01:35

Real or not , many of us have seen objects in the sky which we can't explain.If they're human technologies, still they were blueprinted from the E.T.s

Lancelot

7th February 2011, 02:59

What the wise men saw?

vbt

7th February 2011, 03:25

Do you remember the Australian wave a few years back? A film maker admitted making them to test people's gullibility. I have developed a healthy skepticism because I know they can do marvels with CGI. Still, I have seen too many unusual objects in the sky since I was a kid to not believe they are real. We even saw the perfect triangle with a dark red light on each point fly over our house. I know it wasn't the stealth bomber.

Australian wave: http://www.christopherkenworthy.com/ufo.html

This one is not good quality but the object looks similar to the Jerusalem object: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1G1yra18I4&feature=watch_response

So for now I'm on the fence about the Jerusalem video.

Ontarioguy

7th February 2011, 03:33

I have noticed a BIG difference in the speed at which the object shoots upward in the two videos. In the first one that surfaced, the object looks to be clearly spherical, and after the flash, it shoots up into the sky at an INCREDIBLE rate of speed!!!!! Whereas, the footage that surfaced a few days later with the American tourist heard speaking in it, the object shoots upward at a noticeably much slower rate of speed. IMO

bluestflame

7th February 2011, 03:37

if an agency wanted to discredit a genuine video, would be easy enough to manufacture a very similar one and add a few details that can be explained away , therefore due to similarity to original genuine footage, they are viewed with the same scepticism

view each on a case by case basis

kouby

7th February 2011, 13:09

If I'm not mistaken all the Jerusalem videos were taken on mobile phones, the mere difference in lens quality and chip processing power/speed could explain some differences between different takes.
Then again I haven't taken the time to check the videos closely and compare the time lines. This stuff is so easy to fake there's no real point in debating whether it is real or not any more. As said earlier if someone wants to discredit a sincere video, all they need is a computer and a bit too much time on their hands...
Even though I am persuaded that UFOs exist, and I'm about 95% convinced that most were/are of alien nature, I still wouldn't believe any 30sec video from youtube unless I was the one filming it, and even then I'd still wonder if it wasn't some holographic experiment from those nutters in the black budget business.

Psychonautilus

7th February 2011, 17:24

There have been a few more articles around the place toying with the notion that this may indeed be a promo for 'The Battle of LA:2011'. Most of the focus however, seems to be directed toward the 'fourth video' which is the one that appears to be contrived or faked in comparison to the former videos, and I haven't seen anyone pick apart the first video where people can be seen in the foreground and the whole thing looks pretty solid.

It's really difficult to say, as if this is in fact a viral promo - the resources of a big budget film studio could easily account for the type of convincing 'reality footage' we've seen here. I suppose, like many other controversial UFO videos, we're not ever going to be able to tell, unless someone steps forward and provides proof of how they've created this video. If it was real though, I would still stand by my initial hypothesis - which proposes that the first (and perhaps second) video to surface was legitimate, and the following videos were deliberately flawed copies created to discredit the event as a whole.

fradda

9th February 2011, 07:47

I think that this could be a government one being place on the dome and all such religious significance could be the start of government op' they seem to have allowed UFO disclosure to take its natural course and they have already acclimated the populos through media and movies to accept the notion of ET's.

horishi

9th February 2011, 16:04

The videos were real, however the UFO itself was a hoax...a sophisticated HOLOGRAM...all part of the elite's alien invasion agenda...the TPTB haven't given up yet.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/22105.asp

They installed power generators to create the hologram at the temple mount days before the UFO siting:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/141937

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWl4NyZzcA

Swami

9th February 2011, 16:35

Jerusalem UFO witness report: Michael Cohen interviewed by Iain Lee

Michael Cohen who first reported on the footage managed to speak to Eligael Gedalyovich shortly after the event. In the interview Michael demonstrates that the event could not have been a co-ordinated hoax nor a viral marketing plan as well as reveas what the first witness told him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZwOBl_JDxE

horishi

9th February 2011, 18:48

HOLOGRAM :israel:

tkh123186

9th February 2011, 19:06

In my opinion this is either the best UFO sighting I have seen to date or its part of the beginning of there plan for a false flag alien attack. 3 out of 4 videos are indeed 100% legit, I think the video that is an obvious fake was put out to try and debunk this sighting.

Gypsy Woman

10th February 2011, 10:03

kouby

10th February 2011, 12:44

False flag or the start of interplanetary contact... Either way I'm getting the popcorn ready for the show!

jackovesk

10th February 2011, 16:32

This is the latest You Tube posting, which debunks the debunking video (which stated the videos were hoaxes, showing how the "background" in the videos was a "stillframe" and the UFO inserted, etc...)

This video shows video footage of that event where the background of the city shows moving cars...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jczjyV4v3i0

If its Fake? So be it!

If it's Real, then it is 'Definately One of Ours'...Have a look at the classic 'Triangle' formation when the Bright Light returns to the Craft!

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=418025443014&id=315079534b91e758a6b74159be6414a5&url=http%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f_8RLOdlrA7l4%2fS5EMdmZQIKI%2fAAAAAAAABxw%2fvgCHWFscx9g%2fs1600% 2fTriangle%2bUFO%2bBelgium%2b1990.jpg

These Psyops are becoming really boring and tedious!

guayabal

10th February 2011, 16:53

Swami

10th February 2011, 17:26

This is the latest You Tube posting, which debunks the debunking video (which stated the videos were hoaxes, showing how the "background" in the videos was a "stillframe" and the UFO inserted, etc...)

This video shows video footage of that event where the background of the city shows moving cars...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jczjyV4v3i0

If its Fake? So be it!

If it's Real, then it is 'Definately One of Ours'...Have a look at the classic 'Triangle' formation when the Bright Light returns the Craft!

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=418025443014&id=315079534b91e758a6b74159be6414a5&url=http%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f_8RLOdlrA7l4%2fS5EMdmZQIKI%2fAAAAAAAABxw%2fvgCHWFscx9g%2fs1600% 2fTriangle%2bUFO%2bBelgium%2b1990.jpg

These Psyops are becoming really boring and tedious!

How come those red lights move in a weird way...?

Around/from sec. 34.

loveandgratitude

11th February 2011, 09:33

Dome of the Rock Video Clip Showing UFO Event

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/domeofrockvideo02feb11.shtml

[Editor's Note: Update, Feb. 10. 2011. The implications of this story are rapidly widening and will soon gather greater momentum in both mainstream and alternative media outlets. This event is likely to receive enormous media exposure in the coming days and weeks. The story explained below is now being manipulated by unseen intelligence operatives (likely Mossad agents) by altering the text in e-mails sent to and from Dr. A True Ott concerning a detailed account of the Jan. 28 event which Dr. True Ott received from General Jeremiah on either Jan, 29 or Jan. 30, 2011. The information presented to Dr,. Ott by General Jeremiah in his original e-mail to sent to Dr. Ott, parallels EXACTLY the info presented below by Don Nicoloff during our Feb. 2, 2011 radio show with ZS Livingstone. Listen to the audio link found below to hear the entire show and Don's explanation of the Jan. 28 event.

The altered text e-mail, originally sent by General Jeremiah to True Ott, was unwittingly posted by True Ott to his web site a few days ago. General Jeremiah read the altered text and contacted Dr Ott, asking him about the altered text. It was only then that True Ott became aware of the alteration and took steps to explain the snafu to his readers. Dr Ott then began to re-trace his steps to try to determine when and how the General Jeremiah text was altered (I'll provide details as they become known). I'll be posting the original text from General Jeremiah, as well as the altered text so you will know exactly how the text was changed in a separate article or I will add it to this article, or both.

The ludicrous attempt to label the Jan. 28 event as a "hoax" by low level disinformation operative posting to Youtube has now fallen to the wayside. An article printed in Hebrew in a mainstream Israeli newspaper (I'll post it) on Feb. 1, 2011 gives full credence to the event and goes into a speculative explanation that the Jan. 28 event, along with another UFO sighting event over the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem around mid December 2010, may both be part of a larger ET disclosure agenda predicted by a former NORAD chief, the late Stanley Fulham (Canadian) in his last communique sent on Dec. 3, 2010. I'll be posting this additional info as well

I have complete faith in the honesty of Don Nicoloff and General Jeremiah. I don't have any first hand visual confirmation of any of the things that Don has seen or talked about about concerning General Jeremiah, but there is no reason to doubt Don's word. We've been talking nearly everyday for the past 4 years. If I had any inkling that Don or the General were not legit, then I would not be posting this information. It's too bad that a majority of people, including people who run big name conspiracy/alternative web sites, simply dismiss this information out of hand, rather then reserve judgment and keep an open mind. It's especially infuriating when known provocateurs and unknown disinformation agents are given greater credence and believability than established researcher/writers such as myself or Don Nicoloff in assessing the validity of this event or other startling information relayed by General Jeremiah to Don Nicoloff. .Ken Adachi]
I have no desire to engage in deception. I'm sure Don Nicoloff is also interested in being honest and not to deceive anyone about anything. Unlike Don, I've never met the general in peson, nor have I seen his ships, but I did speak to him once over Don's radio show on July 28. 2009. I am open to what the general has to say and I can decide for myself whether his info seems legit or not. You can do the same thing. It's always a mistake to prejudge and give way to knee jeark skepticism without fully examining the information being presented and see if it corroborates with your other avenues of perception.

Readers should also note that General Jeremiah prefers to accomplish his work without publicity or fanfare. The event on Jan. 28 was caputed by locals with cell phone cameras who recorded the event and posted it to YouTube. In this instance, since the video was already made public, the general was willing to explain the circumstances of the visit (to disarm the nuke) so the public would know what happened and understand the grave danger that was neutralized in that part of the world on Janauary 28.

It also serves as public notice to the psychopaths working for the Dark Side that the jig is now up and it's no longer a safe bet to continue to play nuclear bomb handler and terrorist, since you might be the one who gets vaporized, and not millions of innocent victims.

I bet you the scum bags never considered that possibility, now did they?

Ken Adachi

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/domeofrockvideo02feb11.shtml
Feberuary 2, 2011

Debunking these videos as a "hoax"

Feb. 5, 2011. There is a strong effort underway on the internet to convince people that the above videos were hoaxed. Today I found that the debunker, who uses the name "HOAXKiller1 ", registered 142,000 views of his debunking video while the original video itself only registered 33,000 views. That tells me that there's a very big push by unseen hands to get this debunking video promoted on blogs and UFO/conspiracy type web sites. Someone is very anxious to see this story go away. I wonder who?

I will present a separate article which will deal with the hoax promoter's claims and Don Nicoloff will reveal some very interesting information about the hoax promoter's background: what he does, what he's been caught doing, and more important, who he works for.

Ken Adachi

Etherios

11th February 2011, 12:46

what happened in this event...

Dome of the Rock Video Clip Showing UFO Event (Feb. 2, 2011)

This is the short video clip revealing the visit and events that took place over the Dome of the Rock, Temple Mount mosque in Jerusalem on January 28, 2011.

Feb. 3, 2011: I and ZS Livingstone were part of Don Nicoloff's Evident Footprints internet radio show last night on BBS Radio. Don happened to come across this video clip a couple of days ago and told me that he recognized that the UFO seen over the Temple Mount mosque was the type of craft used by General Jeremiah and the United Galactic Federation (UGF), Galaxy of Hendon. Don talked with General Jeremiah on the phone about the incident and the general confirmed that he was in the ship and that he and his co-pilot had undertaken a mission to disable and destroy a nuclear device which had been secreted in the basement of the mosque by fanatical moslem individuals about 15 years ago (according to Don) and not Israeli agents, as one might suspect. Don wanted to explain to his radio audience what happened at the Temple Mount mosque and General Jeremiah told him that it was OK if he wanted to go public with the story.

According to Don, the motivation of the fanatical moslem group who had planted the suitcase nuclear bomb (which Don suspects might be Russian in origin) was a Doomsday revenge weapon in the event that Israel would take over the mosque and set the stage for the rebuilding of Solomon's temple, a long time 'prophecy' of the Zionist-concocted Armageddon scenario.

The details of the Temple Mount event are explained by Don Nicoloff during our Feb. 2, 2011 radio show which you can access from this link:

Ken Adachi, ZS Livingstone, & Don Nicoloff in Conversation Feb. 2, 2011
http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/KenAdachiZSL02feb11interview.mp3

Anyone have followed this Jeremiah guy to see what he is talking about? He was piloting the UFO... he is from United Galactic Federation (UGF), Galaxy of Hendon !!! first time i hear of him.

jackovesk

11th February 2011, 16:25

Swami

11th February 2011, 16:48

jackovesk

11th February 2011, 17:34

If it's Real, then it is 'Definately One of Ours'...Have a look at the classic 'Triangle' formation when the Bright Light returns to the Craft!

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=418025443014&id=315079534b91e758a6b74159be6414a5&url=http%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f_8RLOdlrA7l4%2fS5EMdmZQIKI%2fAAAAAAAABxw%2fvgCHWFscx9g%2fs1600% 2fTriangle%2bUFO%2bBelgium%2b1990.jpg

These Psyops are becoming really boring and tedious!

How come those red lights move in a weird way...?

Around/from sec. 34.

Look at where the lights start when stationary, when the craft mobilises so too do the lights.

Somehow it looks to me that those lights are "walking" on the base of the 'mothership'.
It has some kind of organic touch to it...
David Adair (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9740-David-Adair-at-Area-51-Advanced-Symbiotic-Technology&highlight=adair) is walking around in my head since this hype started...

Btw, those processors he talks about in the/his video, could they have something to with the Arc of the Covenant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant), could the Arc be the giant CPU for planet Earth...?
What are your thoughts on this jackovesk..:confused:
I know........:offtopic:

:amen:

Qu: "could the Arc be the giant CPU for planet Earth...?" Would'nt have a cluue Swami...

I will list what I think of this Excellent Video...

1. Project Blue Beam
2. Our Techology - Black Triangle IFO
3. We know that our current technology has the ability to knock-out UFO's
4. The "Temple Dome" is one of the most treasured sites on the planet
5. Israel has 'State of The Art' Anti-Missile & Aircraft Tracking (Incoming & Outgoing) and radar technology
6. The "Temple Dome" is monitored 24/7, No-One, even ET could'nt get close to it for that long a period if Israel/USA did'nt let them
7. One of the most popular tourist destinations in the world, constantly being filmed by both tourists and CCTV
8. Summation - Perfect place for a 'False Flag' Op don't you think? A perfect place for Maximum exposure

Swami, I honestly believe this was yet another staged lead-up type event to 'Project Blue Beam' which was going to implemented someways down the track. But now with the TPTW plans coming unstuck and exposed the real event could happen any day now!

Swami

11th February 2011, 17:42

If it's Real, then it is 'Definately One of Ours'...Have a look at the classic 'Triangle' formation when the Bright Light returns to the Craft!

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=418025443014&id=315079534b91e758a6b74159be6414a5&url=http%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f_8RLOdlrA7l4%2fS5EMdmZQIKI%2fAAAAAAAABxw%2fvgCHWFscx9g%2fs1600% 2fTriangle%2bUFO%2bBelgium%2b1990.jpg

These Psyops are becoming really boring and tedious!

How come those red lights move in a weird way...?

Around/from sec. 34.

Look at where the lights start when stationary, when the craft mobilises so too do the lights.

Somehow it looks to me that those lights are "walking" on the base of the 'mothership'.
It has some kind of organic touch to it...
David Adair (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9740-David-Adair-at-Area-51-Advanced-Symbiotic-Technology&highlight=adair) is walking around in my head since this hype started...

Btw, those processors he talks about in the/his video, could they have something to with the Arc of the Covenant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant), could the Arc be the giant CPU for planet Earth...?
What are your thoughts on this jackovesk..:confused:
I know........:offtopic:

:amen:

Qu: "could the Arc be the giant CPU for planet Earth...?" Would'nt have a cluue Swami...

I will list what I think of this Excellent Video...

1. Project Blue Beam
2. Our Techology - Black Triangle IFO
3. We know that our current technology has the ability to knock-out UFO's
4. The "Temple Dome" is one of the most treasured sites on the planet
5. Israel has 'State of The Art' Anti-Missile & Aircraft Tracking (Incoming & Outgoing) and radar technology
6. The "Temple Dome" is monitored 24/7, No-One, even ET could'nt get close to it for that long a period if Israel/USA did'nt let them
7. One of the most popular tourist destinations in the world, constantly being filmed by both tourists and CCTV
8. Summation - Perfect place for a 'False Flag' Op don't you think? A perfect place for Maximmumm exposure

Swami, I honestly believe this was yet another staged lead-up type event to 'Project Blue Beam' which was going to implemented someways down the track. But now with the TPTW plans coming unstuck and exposed the real event could happen any day now!

I think its falseflag also, but what faction is playing around overthere, Zionists...?

Got the beer and popcorn ready for the big one. Gonne sit back and enjoy it....
I just cant wait to see those faces, the biblebelt I live, when this goes MSM....
I already can smell some faint and wierd odeurs..........

Sunny d

11th February 2011, 19:08

http://www.news.com.au/technology/jerusalem-ufo-footage-could-be-marketing-stunt-for-upcoming-battle-los-angeles-film/story-e6frfro0-1226001218068#ixzz1DFxGhbmz

:nono:

Etherios

11th February 2011, 19:29

http://www.news.com.au/technology/jerusalem-ufo-footage-could-be-marketing-stunt-for-upcoming-battle-los-angeles-film/story-e6frfro0-1226001218068#ixzz1DFxGhbmz

:nono:

End your point being? As many here have said at least 1 video is fake. We are not sure that all are fake tho and even if ONE is real then... Also it doesnt matter if its fake or not or if its marketing stunt. It makes the ppl more awaken to the fact Aliens are here ...

loveandgratitude

12th February 2011, 09:07

Anyone have followed this Jeremiah guy to see what he is talking about? He was piloting the UFO... he is from United Galactic Federation (UGF), Galaxy of Hendon !!! first time i hear of him.[/QUOTE]

Below are the two links from the radio show of Don Nicoloff when he was interviewing Ken Adachi. Both of these two people are the leaders in the alternative radio information education. I have a high regard for Ken Adachi in particular. He has done an amazing job on his website -
Educate-yourself.org and has interviewed many interesting whistleblowers over the years.

During one of these shows (see links below) out of nowhere a person came on line and claimed to be General Jeremiah representing the Galactic Federation. He has taken a human form and lives as a human on this planet but is one of the spokespersons for the United Galactic Federation.
He phones in regularly to give updates. These phone calls cannot be traced and he just interrupts the show out of nowhere. The phone line he uses is very clear unlike other callers. I have listened to him on many occassions and love what he has to say.

Yes, it is out there, same as other material presented by Project Camelot. The important thing is to keep your mind open. What I like about GJ is that he is always bringing good news. You can listen for yourselves the show on the links below. Getting interesting.

May 29 2009
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/unitedgalacticfederationcontact07jun09.shtm

July 28 2009
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/generaljeremiahcallsagain29jul09.shtml

noxon medem

12th February 2011, 09:11

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jackovesk

12th February 2011, 12:58

http://www.news.com.au/technology/jerusalem-ufo-footage-could-be-marketing-stunt-for-upcoming-battle-los-angeles-film/story-e6frfro0-1226001218068#ixzz1DFxGhbmz

:nono:

Anyone have followed this Jeremiah guy to see what he is talking about? He was piloting the UFO... he is from United Galactic Federation (UGF), Galaxy of Hendon !!! first time i hear of him.

Anyone have followed this Jeremiah guy to see what he is talking about? He was piloting the UFO... he is from United Galactic Federation (UGF), Galaxy of Hendon !!! first time i hear of him.

Below are the two links from the radio show of Don Nicoloff when he was interviewing Ken Adachi. Both of these two people are the leaders in the alternative radio information education. I have a high regard for Ken Adachi in particular. He has done an amazing job on his website -
Educate-yourself.org and has interviewed many interesting whistleblowers over the years.

During one of these shows (see links below) out of nowhere a person came on line and claimed to be General Jeremiah representing the Galactic Federation. He has taken a human form and lives as a human on this planet but is one of the spokespersons for the United Galactic Federation.
He phones in regularly to give updates. These phone calls cannot be traced and he just interrupts the show out of nowhere. The phone line he uses is very clear unlike other callers. I have listened to him on many occassions and love what he has to say.

Yes, it is out there, same as other material presented by Project Camelot. The important thing is to keep your mind open. What I like about GJ is that he is always bringing good news. You can listen for yourselves the show on the links below. Getting interesting.

May 29 2009
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/unitedgalacticfederationcontact07jun09.shtm

July 28 2009
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/generaljeremiahcallsagain29jul09.shtml

It's Fake...It' Not Fake...It's Fake...It' Not Fake...It's Fake...It's Not Fake...!

The Murdoch News.com.au ( Who the F#$%K do think Controls the Worlds Media)? article says it's some kind of Huge Puclicity Stunt for a New Hollywood Movie!

Which also managed to Fool some people partying on @ 1am in the morning!

I ask All of you who think this video is a Beat Up/Fake, so what if it is? Where do they get this type of technolgy from in the 1st place? Certainly not off Adobe Photoshop?

Cut it Out with the..."He Said, She Said CRAP!" Even if it was Photoshopped? You can bet your botton $Dollar that it wasn't done by some kid on his computer!

Geezus, Enough Already! Like I said before I'm Sick 'n' Tired of this He Said, She Said CRAP!

Calz

12th February 2011, 13:45

If anyone is interested ... here is Dr Boylan's take on what happened (from mailing list with his permission):

Friends,

There is a video circulating on the Internet purporting to show one and then more "UFOs" floating over the Dome of the Rock/Solomon's Temple/Western Wailing Wall at Jerusalem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyCPzXICRc4

This video of supposed "UFOs" floating over the sacred site and then descending or rapidly ascending is in fact a deceptive Cabal "light show". It was done with advanced technology, involving the projection of three-dimensional quasi-solid holograms in the sky.

The Cabal's basic purpose is to confuse people into thinking that they have seen a genuine starcraft - when they have not.

But the Cabal's selection of the holiest site to Islam and Judaism as the location to perpetrate their fraud troubles me, and I can only surmise their motives for an additional "follow-up", given their ultimate plot to conduct a fake "Alien Invasion".

in the light,

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.

Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC
drboylan@sbcglobal.net
www.drboylan.com
President, Star Kids Project, Ltd
Diamond Springs, CA 95619-1009 USA

Etherios

12th February 2011, 13:49

This is totally 1 more step closer to disclosure ( i wanted to say lol) erm i mean false flag. Then again even with false flag all humanity will wake up to the new reality. Then it will be our job to wake them up to see the flase falg as it is ... not to mention that they WILL have to disclose some of the high tech they have. I hope we see free energy at last ...

AlexanderLight

18th February 2011, 09:00

1. Regarding the black triangle UFO...
The entire triangle looks like "Element 115" itself. Please notice the "nose".
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/PU/Uup_element115fuelcell.jpg
Also, the black color and the lights beneath look totally Earthly. It's one of ours.
More to the point, all the benevolent races have shiny UFOs with friendly shapes...everything is harmonious and have nothing to hide. Our leaders, together, form a malevolent Terran group and their UFOs are black with unfriendly looks. This is not a friendly recon flying craft, it looks menacing.

Please take a look at this video of Reticulan greys over Istanbul:
http://humansarefree.com/2011/02/aliens-over-istanbul.html
Their flying craft is also black with an odd, unfriendly shape. We have to relay a lot on our instincts and emotions in these matters as we don't have solid proofs of who is positive and who is negative.

2. Regarding the Jerusalem UFO.
I don't understand why people need to watch "debunking" videos. Trust your heart, we already have all the answers inside.
And one more thing...even if this was a hoax, why does it matter? We know that flying discs exist, we know extraterrestrial species exists, so does it really matter if one video is fake or not?

Love and Light to all! <3

loveandgratitude

19th February 2011, 08:00

General Jeremiah's E-mail to Dr A. True Ott re. The Dome of Rock Event on Jan. 28, 2011 (Feb. 13, 2011)

From Ken Adachi, Editor
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/trueott09feb11.shtml
February 9, 2011

I did a radio show with Don Nicoloff and ZS Livingstone on Feb. 2, 2011,

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/domeofrockvideo02feb11.shtml

in which Don Nicoloff explained the events that transpired above the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem on Jan. 28, 2011. After talking with Dr. A. True on Feb. 9, 2011 by phone, I found out that General Jeremiah of the United Galactic Federation, had sent an e-mail to Dr. Ott on either Jan. 31, 2011 or Feb. 1 explaining the events that took place over the Dome on Jan. 28.

Dr. Ott did not immediately publish General Jeremiah's note on his web site when received. Instead, he sent it around to a few individuals including Israeli/Canadian writer Barry Chamish. Barry replied to the e-mail sent to him by True Ott with some additional comments of his own and additional info from a Hebrew newspaper in Israel which covered the Jan. 28 Dome event. True Ott copied and pasted General Jeremiah's text from Barry's reply e-mail and posted that text to his web site. Dr. Ott posted the General Jeremiah text on his web site for the first time on Feb. 8, 2011

In reading the text posted to True Ott's web site, General Jeremiah had noticed that some ADDITIONAL words were INSERTED into his original text explaining the Jan. 28 event. He contacted True Ott and asked him about the inserted words. Dr. Ott was not aware that these words were inserted into the general's text, but he posted an explanation to his readers as soon as he found out about the surreptitious insertions.

I re-posted below the entire e-mail text sent by General Jeremiah to Dr. A. True Ott AND the additional words which were INSERTED, by unknown agents, into the general's explanation. The inserted words are shown in RED.

You will notice that the INSERTED words change the political implications of what General Jeremiah is relaying in his e-mail to True Ott by assigning GUILT and PARTICIPATION to parties who were NOT mentioned at all by General Jeremiah.

The inserting of words such as the Islamic Brotherhood or the Vatican serves the propaganda/disinformation agenda of hidden interlopers. I intend to explore this issue more with Don Nicoloff and Dr. Ott and see if we can determine when the text was altered and if possible, by whom.

[The text seen below was obtained from Dr. Ott's web site. It includes the original text which General Jeremiah had sent to True Ott on Jan. 29, 2011 plus the inserted words which were contained in the e-mail reply that Dr. Ott had received back from Barry Chamish. The short note seen immediately below was written by Dr. A. True Ott. ]

The alterations/additions are shown in red.

The question is, can intelligence agencies alter e-mail texts after being sent to a specific address?? I don’t know if this is even possible – but it seems somebody wants to implicate “The Islamic Brotherhood” and/or the Vatican.

True

This is in response to the video.

I took it upon myself to accomplish something that should have been done a long time ago. I had hoped that it would not get captured on film, but as you can see it was filmed. I had forewarned two Israel government officials whom I trust, so they could be prepared in case we failed. There has been a mini doomsday devise (nuclear) planted under the edifice that houses the dome. It had been placed there about 15 years ago by radical Moslem/Vatican forces in the event that Israel ever decided to claim the territory and take it away from the Moslem powers.

It was a suicide bomb that would have destroyed most of Jerusalem and the surrounding country. It should have been disarmed several years ago, but no one ventured to do it. Several of my crews had volunteered to do the dirty work, but it was quite risky, even with our advanced electronic equipment. I decided to do it myself with the help of David, my copilot and no other crew members, at his insistence. If the bomb had exploded we would have been history, but we trained on the equipment for several weeks to make sure we knew the correct procedures, which were many.

I kept all other craft away, except for some back up drone crafts, which were the red lights that were seen. I will not explain their purpose for reasons of security. As we disarmed the bomb electronically, the flash of light that was seen was the frying of the firing mechanism and the arcing of electrical panels. I got out of there in a hurry and put the “pedal to the metal.” We were several thousand miles away in seconds. I think David and I were both sweating profusely. Our squadron was waiting at a rendezvous point, and we proceeded to the Alliance, which as you know, is in orbit around a neutral planet. We had a celebration with all of our crews upon arrival!!!
Israeli forces then immediately stormed the Dome and captured the device. There was no resistance. It was “hushed up” to prevent another war, especially with the CFR induced tensions in Cairo happening simultaneously as this event. You are the only one I have confided in on this matter. I surely do not want to start a Middle Eastern war, only to help prevent it. I will probably tell Don today.

A few weeks ago, 23 of my crews and I disarmed 23 suitcase nukes that were hidden in this country in various locations. Unfortunately we had to eliminate over 100 people (mostly members of the Islamic Brotherhood and rogue CIA) in the operation. They had planned to explode them remotely, all at the same time to coincide with the Egyptian protests happening now. They were much simpler to defuse.

We captured the devices and transported them to an uninhabited planet and hid them. We did not want to risk the handling of the nuclear material, and the contamination. I advised the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs after we had finished our task. They were extremely grateful. They were shocked to learn that all of the perpetrators we eliminated were Israeli Mossad agents posing as Islamic Brotherhood. They sent in Delta Force to clean up the mess.

There were no bodies, only dust, and few articles of clothing and weapons left, and the electronic equipment and communication devices that they left in the locations. I am sure there are some very angry illuminati devils, that are fuming over the disruption of their plans. Our next move needs to target some of them, personally. I am still praying about how to handle that problem. The Elders left it to my discretion. I had never intended to get this involved in the affairs of the planet, but I cannot sit by and watch the destruction of our nation and planet. I warned Mr. Obama, a few days after he took office, that we would not tolerate the destruction of this Republic. He has refused to listen.

This information is for your discretion. My life is already in jeopardy, so “que sera, sera.” My security team caught two more assassins with sniper rifles, in the woods behind my house last week. Fortunately they no longer exist. I am sure there will be other attempts, as there will be on you as well. I looked at the bullet scar on the oak tree in my back yard just yesterday. That happened last winter. I had bent over to pick up a leaf rake, just as they fired. The bullet missed my head probably by only six inches. Karen was beside me. I knocked her to the ground and fell on top of her.

My security team had observed the late model Cadillac go down the road in front of my house, but had no reason to suspect it. They abruptly stopped past my house and took the shot when they saw us in the back yard. The security craft guarding me immediately melted that car into a block of molten steel with the men inside. I personally transported it to the White House the next morning, and dropped it on the front steps. I am sure it cracked the steps and sidewalk. I had taped a note addressed to Mr. Obama to it saying. “Nice try. Next time it could happen to your car.” There was no response.

That is my story. There will probably be more. Got to get some sleep. I got home early tonight. It has been a busy day. God Bless. Keep in touch.”

[end of altered e-mail text]

You will notice that the above explanation from General Jeremiah of the Jan. 28 Dome event matches the verbal explanation given by Don Nicoloff during our Feb. 2 radio show. You will also note that the words seen in RED were NOT part of Don Nicoloff's Feb. 2 explanation.

Here is a summary of the disinformation which the interloper(s) had inserted into General Jeremiah's text:

1. It was a "mini" nuke (General Jeremiah confined in a separate conversation that the device was much larger than a mini nuke)

2. The "Vatican" was involved (not true)

3. The General's ship Alliance went into orbit around a "neutral planet" (this is not what was reported to Dr. Ott)

4. "CFR induced tensions in Cairo" (General Jeremiah did not mention the CFR, or the Council on Foreign Relations)

5. General Jeremiah did not say " only to help prevent it." when he referred to averting war in the Middle East.

6. General Jeremiah did not say: "mostly members of the Islamic Brotherhood and rogue CIA) "when he referred to the 100+ Israeli Mossad agents resposible for the 23 nukes he had seized.

7. General Jeremiah did not include the phrase "to coincide with the Egyptian protests happening now" when he said that the nukes were intended to be exploded simultaneously.

8. General Jeremiah did not say that the 100 + Mossad agents were " posing as Islamic Brotherhood".

9. General Jeremiah did not say that angry Illuminati devils were fuming " over the disruption of their plans". He merely said they were fuming.

10. He did not say that his next move was to target some of them " personally".

11. General Jeremiah told True Ott that the insertion of the phrase "as there will be on you as well.", when the general referred to 'other attempts' in his original e-mail, may in fact be a threat against Dr. Ott.

12. Finally, General Jeremiah did not add the word "personally" when describing how he had transported the melted assassin's car to the front steps of the Whie House.

It may seem like a trivial matter that I took the time to emphasize the words which were inserted into General Jeremiah's e-mail text, but I thought that it's a good idea to isolate and categorize them since they reveal the dinformation or deception intentions of the interlopers who added these words. We might assume that wherever these same words or phases are used to describe behind-the-scenes intrigue surrounding the events that occured in Egypt in the past two weeks, that the same spin artists may be at work.

OR the deception could run even deeper. It's possible that the insertions were intended to be noticed and then used as a gimmick to get you to back track and assign guilt to a targeted individual.

Stay tuned.

Ken Adachi

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/trueott09feb11.shtml

tkh123186

19th February 2011, 16:36

Eligael, who filmed the original UFO Over the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem speaks out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOjdAIWbVlE

kaatje

19th February 2011, 18:05

Wow this is Great.!!!

Gr Karin. :cool:

Arrowwind

19th February 2011, 18:32

This was sent to me last week. These videos give multiple accounts and viewings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9yFu4OorU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9yFu4OorU&feature=related)

You have to click on this one. I couldn't get the screen to come up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jczjyV4v3i0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AHgYvfp3GE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AHgYvfp3GE)

linz2d

22nd February 2011, 16:49

I don't know if this has been suggested but I believe that the first video at the distance is real, with the man standing in the foreground holding the mobile/cell phone in the air.

However the video which is closer to the UFO with that old lady saying she sees them all the time and all those idiotic reactions in background, is fake. The main reason why I say it's fake is that there was no flash seen coming from the UFO, added to that UFO is not moving which I will discuss about in a little bit. Given also any sane person would if filming the UFO shooting up into the sky would try and follow it with their camera but why don't they?

I believe the one which shows the UFO moving forward is genuine, I had to end up using Google maps to determine where this image was taken based on the street light and the roads. I believe is the "Arches Hotel". The flash is the important thing and is common in many genuine UFO sightings, sometimes it looks like a puff of air surrounding a UFO during the day before it vanishes. As for the first video the location that was given is "Armon HaNatsiv" by the original poster on youtube. Now if you connect the dots from "Armon HaNatsiv" to the "Dome of the Rock" and then to "Arches Hotel" an L shape is formed. Interestingly enough that distance and perspective, viewing from "Armon HaNatsiv" would have made the UFO appear still while it was actually moving foward.

Now I honestly belief that the second video is a Hoax or misinformation as to try dis-credit all the videos, The speed however at which this hoax UFO video appeared is interesting. :rolleyes:

Arrowwind

23rd February 2011, 22:57

IHowever the video which is closer to the UFO with that old lady saying she sees them all the time and all those idiotic reactions in background, is fake. The main reason why I say it's fake is that there was no flash seen coming from the UFO, added to that UFO is not moving which I will discuss about in a little bit. Given also any sane person would if filming the UFO shooting up into the sky would try and follow it with their camera but why don't they?

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First I will ask you just how sane most people remain while they are viewing a UFO? Just consider that. Many would photograph differently if given the opportunity to be prepared for what they were seeing.
I think these films are accurate. they were shot from different perspectives with different ambient light.
Since there are two threads on this topic I thought I would bring my post over here too.

I have a friend, Helios, who has been seeing and contacting UFO's for many years and he has actively taken people to see ships for along time... He took me to see them in the Jemez mountains in 1983. After a long separation from him, having lost contact with him just due to the course of life I have found him again about a year and a half ago. A couple of weeks ago he sent me video links for these dome of the rock sitings, and there have been more than one recorded and you will find them at the end of the letter. Some videos are clearly better than others.

To understand a little more about Helios you can read my account of my journey to see the ships and my meeting of Helios on this blog. It is a 6 part story and the links to each following part is found at the end of the page.
http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/17-ships-part-1.html (http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/17-ships-part-1.html)

Meanwhile I asked Helios if I could post his letter to me here as he tells his impression of these videos and he agreed. Clearly the lesson here is that one has to energetically discern how to tell the different types of ships apart. After my experience in seeing ships, what Helios calls, Merkaba ships, it was clear to me on first sight that these vidoes, that was actually presented to me though this forum first, that these videos have captured Merkaba ships.. I was very excited to see them, especially connected to such a power point for humanity. I cannot explain to you all the Helios says... his path is complex and he has language/terms that I do not fully understand. The bold emphasis is added by me.

Hye Folks!

O.K.. Here is a fairly comprehensive overview of the footage from Yerushalim of the Elohim Flagship, "Operation Victory Appearance" occuring on Jan. 28th! NOT A HOAX.. NOT A FALSE FLAG EMULATION!.. NOT AN "ALIEN INVASION".. This is Revelation at its best..

The attachment (at bottom) shows one event that is not the same as you will see in the other films of a "second event". . The third link is a version that does justice to the rotating field of lights filmed with nice close up after the "ascent" of the vehicle. You have to watch to the end of that film to see the event up in the sky after the ascent.

You get something different out of each film. I repeat, there are two events filmed here! The signature of the appearance is unique to the true Living Host Command's appearance analogue and is not the kind of false flag appearnce the cabal would project. They would not employ such otherwordly dramatization when they are interested in taking people in a different direction entirely as far as this goes. Although, they would try to adapt and simulate certain elements, the specific distinctions are all important here and hence, I will be sending a commentary on soon to follow this advisement. The ability to differentiate is the most important cosmic survival skill available to human emobodiments at this time along with that of orchestrating direct contact with the true angelics. False flag will be staged with more hostility in mind at first followed by the false flag messianic appearance to "save us" from the "hostiles" (synthetic event) first making their presence known. It cannot work any other way. This is merely a small part of the vast number of considerations in contemplating such things, however.

However, one needs an in depth dissection here and I will be working on that. Please watch this cross section of footage closely. More coming from the Heart of Aleph soon on this event putting those on notice whom hath eyes to see! ... Helios

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AHgYvfp3GE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9yF...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9yFu4OorU&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jczjyV4v3i0

linz2d

24th February 2011, 00:02

Hmmm did you notice on the video where the UFO moves forwards the light actually reflects off the dome(I only noticed this now), When the UFO is directly above the dome this means you should see this reflection on all sides at that time, when it moves forward the orientation of the reflection changes as we would expect it to. Where is the reflection of light on top of the dome in that video with the elderly lady? Where is the burst of light which fills the area?

Believe what you will though, and I will believe that there is only the "one" video which is a hoax and that is with the stupid english commentary in it. The other two I consider real.

stomy

15th March 2011, 14:26

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7TYArffsGE

New footage of the Jerusalem UFO with a new angle of the sighting, this one is like most of the others it has the two flashes before shooting up in the sky, I believe this is just another video giving evidence and credit that this sighting is very much real. There is also security cam footage of the sighting that helps prove this sighting.

UFO hovers over Temple Mount Jerusalem. Then in a flash of light shoots up into space!

Jean-Luc

24th November 2012, 15:26

UPDATE :

Based on the non vertical angle (5-15°) of the takeoff of the craft, Merhan Keshe explains in details how in his view this man-made event uses MAGRAV-type technology.
Fascinating.

If one goes over some of my writings in the past and the ones in the NASA forum and in some of my papers, I have always said straight vertical takeoff with these crafts is like jumping from the top of the Eiffel tower without a parachute and hoping to survive the experience.

Therefore in these flights for rapid descend and ascend, you always chose an angle between 5- 15 degree from the vertical or horizontal line for drop and entry from the reference point of origin for safety reasons.

These angles of trajectory allows certain magnetic field’s interlaying gap between the craft Magravs and the earth Magravs fields.

In these fast motions one does not choose full head-on friction course , but sliding effects, and this gives a better safety margin factor if any rapid field changes in either system occurs during the decent or ascend of the system at high speeds.

Thus; when you see videos like this with taking off, landing and rapid changes in space during flight, these degree of these trajectory angles should give you the indication if you are observing areal Magravs system or not.

This applies even for elevation in midair from one height to another or for side motion.

Circular and 180 degree turns and motions are created in different ways of using the reactors of the systems.

Please note that I frequently use the term “reactors”, as single reactor combination is literally not very good for use in these systems.

This range of angles( 5-15) of descend and ascend is one of the indications of real systems and of course not the only one, when one is observing videos or 3 dimensional effect recordings of these types of flights.

In the Jerusalem case there are certain activities in the background with military forces and the system rapidly takes off for higher altitude for safety and hovers for its time of departure.

The sequential lights at higher altitude with flickering lights are indication of formation and waiting for a play with forces on the ground.

The sudden change of bright light at ground level to dark light at higher altitude is just when the system at higher altitude changes its Magravs strength of its outer core reactors to equal strength as the earth atmosphere Magravs strength and this creates literally no light and so the system appears to be switched off its light or just flickering of systems reactors in rotation mode are observable.

At one point in every recording on the net these all show two flashes of lights appearing and then immediately upwards motion by the system (for example at 1-15 seconds in the video blow).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ZitlrR ... re=related

This is a correct behavior for these systems, as the system is changing from hold to lift.

At this point the multiple reactor setting of the motion configuration, transfers its Magravs to extremity system reactors to protect the system during the change of the central core configuration, and then once the protection is in place and the system is supported by the outer cores for hold, these outer cores systems create their own Magravs field’s strength, and the interaction of these new Magravs in exchange with central core Magravs creates the change of field strength from center to boundary reactors, and this is the time when one observes the first light flash, as the boundary reactors create their own Magravs interaction with the atmospheric Magravs of the earth and the sudden friction of four field forces creates this flashing light.

Then at the same time the central core goes into Magnetic increase and Gravitational decrease field’s strength to create the repulsion of the craft upwards.

Then you have a second flash as the boundary reactors reduce their Magravs and the central core takes over the system.

The time lapse between the two flashes of lights and then move up is the time laps needed for change of the central core inner strength from hold to repulsion (Magnetic fields) strength and pre-planning the height to achieve once moving upwards, this takes about less than a fraction of a second.

Thus the whole motion on top of the Jerusalem is a real system and is a manmade system. And there is NO doubt about this.

Apparently there is somewhere on the net video about the recent volcano incident showing that the same light exited from the same place and about the same time, which I have not seen this second video as of yet but seen the reference on this link with exit and entry pictures.

This is what I wrote in the original section of the link that the system has to come out somewhere, and what I read indicates that the system has achieved its goal and left the area afterwards from the same porthole.

In volcanic systems one finds rare materials in principal matter strength, which are hard to produce, but easy to capture for deep space travels, these are like rare earth materials and have a huge source base strength, which these become handy for one-off loadings for food supply in deep space.

These materials are the same as those which at the moment scientists by mistake think that the heavy materials are only create in supernova condition, and I have explained in the book 4 to be published soon that production of heavy materials in matter and principal matter strength are naturally produced and occurring processes in the inner cores during the normal life of the stars and planets and not during the supernova state of the system as has been imagined up to now.

I will teach how to capture and use these principal matter field’s strength entities for production of food and fuel on earth and in deep-space in the coming times.

Thus with certainty we can say that both cases are real systems and in the Jerusalem case the source is manmade as it is not as sophisticated as the volcanic one.

My personal knowledge is that the Jerusalem flight is a Magravs system and the source known and the show had a specific purpose for it to be on a given place and time as I talked about it at the time to others around me.

We have advanced version of this system on trial at this moment and we are going through thought control development testing at the present rather than using computer control systems, which are too slow to respond for such motions in these systems.

This lift over the holy place is a real system and is and has its origin in the Middle East.

We welcome the man to the world the real spaceship technology now that we all possess the technology to develop our own flavors and systems of it to take mankind into a new dimensions of maturity.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3077&start=20

Spellbound

9th February 2014, 21:02

Chakra

12th February 2014, 01:03

Bump...

OK, so nearest I can tell, some say it's a fake...some say it's real. No definitive proof either way.

I'd like to see more discussion on this topic. If the Mods could merge both the threads together we could invite more interest and input.

Dave - Toronto

Hi Dave

I posted back in 2011 the video to show why it is a hoax as well as the Craigslist request for these sort of videos to be made from people around the world.

It is Post #47 of this thread. Faking these sort of things is easy, if you wonder how see the program Avid. Since these programs exist and are easy to use, nothing in film / video can be seen as being authentic.

Cheers

MorningFox

12th February 2014, 11:57

This is not fake. There are multiple videos of the same event from multiple angles taken by multiple sources.

The time for denial has long passed.