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Gone002
30th January 2011, 18:20
Hi guys and girls, im lactose intalerant(sorry for spelling) i used to by over the counter allergy tablets. as of recent they change the tablets, which now contain lactose. Have any of you come a cross an alternative which works and does not contain milk(lactose)


celt

thanks

Arrowwind
30th January 2011, 20:39
What type of allergy medicine that would be recommended is based on what kind of allergies you have.
What specifically are you allergic to? and how does that allergy manefest?
Pollens is not a good enough answer. Which pollens.

Gone002
30th January 2011, 20:45
Im allergic to lactose, as such i get a bad rash, sick, vomiting etc. theres no tablet to stop my reaction to milk, but the doctor told me to take general allergy tablets .

Arrowwind
30th January 2011, 21:08
Have you tried lactose enzyme supplements? Lactase its called. Most people are allergic to lactose because their body does not produce the correct enzyme to digest it properly, therefor the dairy causes a toxic state in the system.

Many people can eat some dairy if they take the enzymes with the meal.. just search for lactose enzymes.. You will have to play with it to figure out how many you need to take. Personally, if it were me I would not use them all that often, but rather respect my bodies natual ability or lack there of. Many black people have this "disorder", there is a genetic cause and is often racially linked so I do not consider it a real disorder.

Some lactose intoterant people can do well with yogurt as the lactose is predigested by the probiotic bacteria.

Arrowwind
30th January 2011, 21:13
I would also add that your doctor is a dim whit. Find another one. He is promoting you to eat a food that is toxic for you then promotes that you repress the symptoms that demonstrates that this food is no good for you with a drug. All drugs have toxic side effects.... poisoning effects. Just suggesting that it is OK to take a drug for this condition is very poor medicine. He has done nothing to address or remedy the cause. He is a fool.

Gone002
30th January 2011, 21:47
Cool thank you, just goes to show that the NHS is ****.

i wasn't always allergic to milk, a few years back i was in a critical condition in hospital, i had all sorts put into me and done to me. It’s a small price to pay but whatever. Whatever they did it must have triggered it. The doctors them self’s were even shocked by it.

Tyler Macmillan
30th January 2011, 22:17
I agree with Arrowwind - try lactase and probiotics, active yogurt cultures.

Also, here (http://www.colorcon.com/literature/marketing/ex/Starch 1500/Starting Formulations/fs_dc_loradatine_070406.pdf) is an interesting link re: lactose-free loratadine tabs - though it's more that you just raised an interesting question... What about lactose-intolerant people with say, seasonal allergies or cat allergies...

happyexpat
31st January 2011, 03:17
Raw honey that is from somewhere local to you.

Also, if you do meat, drink straight chicken broth. I had vicious allergies and someone told me to drink 1 can of chicken broth a week and they would stop. They also told me you couldn't get the lower fat chicken broth.

You can get boxes or cans of organic chicken broth like 99% fat free at most groceries and that worked great for me.

Janos
31st January 2011, 03:24
Mineral salt. Salt from Redmond, Utah, should do the trick. Real ancient sea salt.

Just incorporate it into your diet, and throw away that processed junk you have in your cupboard. Once your body re-mineralizes to what it should be, and is operating on a normal level, you should be fine. May take a few days, may take a few months, depending on the level of toxicity in your body.

I know this from personal use. And members of my family who used to practically LIVE on things such as Benadryl, haven't had to touch them in months.

That's for general allergies. But for the lactose intolerant thing, yes, lactase should help.

Adult mammals aren't built for dairy products, and as such, our bodies no longer produce the lactase required to properly digest such things.

But definitely start at the source, and start with the natural salt. Everyone's body can use a full natural detox and proper minerals that are missing from our food supply.

Dennis Leahy
31st January 2011, 04:13
Hi celt,

Hmmmmm, do I have it correctly that your body is screaming at you not to eat dairy, and you are looking for a way to circumvent the messages from your body, so that you can eat dairy products?

Pulitzer Prize nominee John Robbins was the heir to the Baskin-Robbins family fortune, and when he had come of age to step into the corporate offices, he said, "no thanks, dad." He then went to college and studied nutrition, earning a degree. He researched for about 5 years before writing his first book, Diet for a New America, (which is neither a "diet" book, nor are the implications restricted to America.) This book (as far as I know) was the first mainstream whistleblowing about the meat and dairy industries insane methods of production.

A 'down and dirty' synopsis of a few major points, about dairy, from Diet for a New America:
The "Four Food Groups" was the result of the dairy industry printing up a chart and giving it out (to schools, for example.) No nutritionist ever studied milk and came up with the conclusion that humans need it. This is the work of dairy lobbyists!

There is no need in human nutrition for milk, beyond human breast milk for human infants.

Not counting any of the other adverse effects of factory farming/ranching, if for you personal health alone you were going to stop eating either meat or stop eating dairy, stopping dairy would have the biggest positive effect.

It isn't enough to say "milk is not necessary for health"; the truth is, "milk causes health problems." This is not opinion, but rather scientific fact, proven in numerous studies.
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But, maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, and you're only looking for a dairy-free allergy pill, because you are trying to cut down on some other allergy symptoms, not related at all to dairy food intake. If this is the case, as Arrowwind said, there are probably strategies for different types of allergies, but if you have general allergies to pollen (and maybe mold, I'm not sure about that one!), you got a suggestion from KistheMum about raw LOCAL honey, and one step better is to find raw local bee pollen (sprinkle half a teaspoon on something like oatmeal - bee pollen is not sweet.)

I had never heard about sea salt, Janos, but have just purchased Himalayan Sea Salt Crystals, and have been using that in the kitchen and the bath. It would be cool if it also has that effect!

Dennis

Gone002
31st January 2011, 10:34
Your right dennis my body is telling me not to eat dairy, and im trying to force it. After arrowwind's information i have made a doctors apointment with a different doctor to find out what the problem is.

I would like to thank all of you for your help,time and effort. :)

Celt

ThePythonicCow
31st January 2011, 20:00
Your right dennis my body is telling me not to eat dairy, and im trying to force it. After arrowwind's information i have made a doctors appointment with a different doctor to find out what the problem is.
Just a thought ... make an appointment with the best doctor there is ... your body. Listen to it.

Arrowwind
31st January 2011, 20:44
I find it interesting that celts intolerance and allergy developed after medical treatments.
My homoepath always told me that drugs can cause genetic changes, just as disease can.
Something has stopped producing the enzyme that is needed.

For such conditions I recommend an Environmental Medicine specialist who has a bent for the alternative...
I know... hard to find. There are a couple in Dallas, Texas... Johnson is the name of one as well as an ace homoepath named Judith Pruzo.
Many allergies can be cured with homoeapthy.

I think they should be able to test you for lactose intolerance but really the only treatment is to take the enzyme for they have no way to make you produce what you no longer are producing... the only hope for that is in homepathy... and still it could take a while. I have seen a number of children who were allergic to milk loose the allergy after homeopathic treatment.

I suppose there is a possibility that some gut issues developed it you took a ton of antibiotics and or steroids. They will change the dynamics so drastically in the gut in some cases that some people can digest little without difficulty after such treatments. Working to re-establish noramal gut health would be requried and it is not easy, but there are protocols out there. One of the best written up in a book is called "The Makers Diet" find it on amazon. I don't know if something like this could restore your ability to eat dairy or not.

One of the best things you can do for your gut is to eat homemade yogurt. I use VSL#3 probioitics due to some of my own gut issues.. If you take one of these caps and add it to the yogurt you make into the culture you will have a very highpowered yogurt product. I always keep fresh homemade yogurt around, and like I said most lactose intolerate folks can eat it. Keifer, which can be made homemade is suppose to be even better for the gut.

Jean-Marie
2nd February 2011, 01:32
It sounds to me that you are Lactose Intolerant which is very different than an allergy to Milk.

A milk allergy is different from lactose intolerance. People can confuse Lactose intolerance with Cow Milk allerg. Milk Allergy is an allergic reaction to milk proteins usually discovered when you are a baby, definitely in the first year of your life. Milk allergy can be life threatening when just a small amount of milk or milk product is consumed. Lactose intolerance is a condition that is common to develop in adulthood and it is the inability to digest the lactose sugar found in milk. The symptoms of lactose intolerance are usually diarrhea, cramping, and gas. You need lactaid or a Lactase Enzyme Supplement. The lining of your small intestine is not making the enzyme Lactase.

Try Lactaid and if that doesn't help, then visit your local health food store or look online for a Lactase Enzyme Supplement.

Jean-Marie

TigaHawk
2nd February 2011, 04:54
You guys will love this one, i think.


I love cats. Absolutely, totaly, 100% adore them. Hasnt been much time in my life when i have been without them.


And we've just discoverd that i am allergic to them :)


Around new cats, my eyes will go red and puff up, and i'll look like a crying chinaman.

Around cats that ive been with for a few days - just a constant runny nose. Somethign im kidna accustomed too :P

One would have thought, that forcibly keeping myself around the thing im allergic too for 25 years would have gotten rid fo the allergy.


So.... Any ideas?

The cat is NOT going ANYWHERE!!

Jean-Marie
2nd February 2011, 06:11
Cats is a tough one. We have two cats at home. I have one son who has allergies to them. The cats are not allowed in his bedroom. Hot water based heating, Hardwood floors, help keep the cat dander from blowing around. Keep your house clean. No carpeting, Only small throw carpets that you can wash frequently. Keep the house clean and dust free. For you nose, how about rinsing your sinuses with a neti pot and saline solution once a day?

Jean-Marie

Arrowwind
2nd February 2011, 06:23
It sounds to me that you are Lactose Intolerant which is very different than an allergy to Milk.

A milk allergy is different from lactose intolerance. People can confuse Lactose intolerance with Cow Milk allerg. Milk Allergy is an allergic reaction to milk proteins usually discovered when you are a baby, definitely in the first year of your life. Milk allergy can be life threatening when just a small amount of milk or milk product is consumed. Lactose intolerance is a condition that is common to develop in adulthood and it is the inability to digest the lactose sugar found in milk. The symptoms of lactose intolerance are usually diarrhea, cramping, and gas. You need lactaid or a Lactase Enzyme Supplement. The lining of your small intestine is not making the enzyme Lactase.

Try Lactaid and if that doesn't help, then visit your local health food store or look online for a Lactase Enzyme Supplement.

Jean-Marie

You are right, Jean Marie... an allergic reaction is generally more than the need for lactase. If she takes lactase and the problem goes away then she will know it is an enzyme problem. Some people do have an allergic reaction becasue when the milk is not digested correctly due to lack of proper enzymes, incorrectly digested compounds enter the blood stream and allergy happens...

Im sure Celt will figure it out soon.

Milk allergy without a lactase issue can be cured with classical homeopathy. I have seen it a few times cured in small children.

Sowelu
2nd February 2011, 06:33
Why would you want to drink something your body doesn't want?
It would be better for you to try raw milk
than subject yourself to the harmful effects of taking pills to make your body accept something it doesn't want.
Also numorous studies have been done that conclude that we really shouldnt be drinking pasterized cows milk but instead raw organic
It's completely safe to drink, contains loads more enzymes normally killed in pasturizing (including lactase which helps your body to break it down),
tastes better, and lactose intolerants have been shown to be able to drink it!

heres a helpful article on rawmilk for l.t.i

http://www.organicpastures.com/faq.html

vibrations
2nd February 2011, 07:04
There is almost entire continent with a "lot" of people (Asia, Chineses) they do not use milk in their diet. And they are alive and steel there. So, belive me, we do not need any milk for our body. It is consumist fraud.

Ok, but this is steel nothing what can help you in your alergy. From the point of view of the medicine I am practicing, any alergy is a sign or better say message of your subconciousness that there are things in your life which you are not accepting as natural, so the reaction is an alergy at some natural substance.
What I would do, it would be taking out all chemical treatments, starting to clean my body of all kind of pills they told you that "helps" and after that start selective Homeopathic and acupuncture treatment as a base and then with some good psychosomatic terapeut tryed to find the cause of your alergy and delute this fals orders of your brain with maybe various sessions of regression or with EFT.

sister
3rd February 2011, 13:21
Raw honey that is from somewhere local to you.

Also, if you do meat, drink straight chicken broth. I had vicious allergies and someone told me to drink 1 can of chicken broth a week and they would stop. They also told me you couldn't get the lower fat chicken broth.

You can get boxes or cans of organic chicken broth like 99% fat free at most groceries and that worked great for me.

+1 on the raw local honey treatment
Worked wonders for my son's allergies and totally knocked the asthma out of his system.
Removing processed wheat products as well as most dairy helped ease the symptoms.
Our homeopathic practitioner recommended certain foods which apparently help release mucus from the system:
turnips, radishes, lemons and limes, garlic and onions. She also recommended adding cayenne and ginger to his diet.

witchy1
3rd February 2011, 13:41
Im allergic to lactose, as such i get a bad rash, sick, vomiting etc. theres no tablet to stop my reaction to milk, but the doctor told me to take general allergy tablets

Raw milk is what you need I agree with Sowelu.... (if indeed you do have a lactose allergy!)
If your going to do the raw honey thing - buy comb honey. Eat it all.
INHO over the counter (OTC) allergy products actually produce allergies. stay well away.

Arrowwind is correct - your GP is not helpful

Sorry Tigahawk, nothing up my sleeve for cat allergies. Wonder why that is. Have you got flea collars on or used a flea product recently????? Might be that. Maybe something else on their body, have they been playing in the neighbours sandpit and caught some parasite that you are sensing????

Gone002
4th February 2011, 14:46
After going to a new doctor the news is one of incompetence and strangeness. Around 7 months ago I had stomach injures, after being stitched up etc i was then discharged from hospital with a doctor’s note. In the letter was a prescription for a course of antibiotics followed by a second course after that had finished. Neither was given to me, it turns out the rashes; sickness when eating food, diarrhea etc has been cause by an infection in the wound which the antibiotics were meant to have sorted. ( there were no outward signs on the wound)

So in note my old doctor was an incompetent berk, i have been taking allergy tablets when there was no need populating my body. i am on a course of antibiotics until the infection has passed, then surgery if that fails.

Sowelu
8th February 2011, 04:49
Generally cat allergies have more to do with the cat's saliva or dander than their fur.
Unfortunatly they lick themselves frequently, so you can get cat "bath" wipes that will help to remove some of the allergens and they won't get as vicious about it.
There are also anti-allergen pet shampoos that help, and brushing frequently also cuts back allergens)

Air purifiers also help to keep their cat esscense out of the air. I heard also that females produce less allergens..not sure how that one works lol.
If it is an allergy to fur you can have the cat shaved at your local pet groomer but if you do, don't keep them outside when its cold.
Supposedly there are pills you can give your cat to make them produce less allergens,
but i personally would not trust drugging my kitty...
there's also a "vaccine...but i wouldn't trust drugging myself either. Lol..

Lumial8
8th February 2011, 12:25
I find it interesting that celts intolerance and allergy developed after medical treatments.
My homoepath always told me that drugs can cause genetic changes, just as disease can.
Something has stopped producing the enzyme that is needed.

For such conditions I recommend an Environmental Medicine specialist who has a bent for the alternative...
I know... hard to find. There are a couple in Dallas, Texas... Johnson is the name of one as well as an ace homoepath named Judith Pruzo.
Many allergies can be cured with homoeapthy.

I think they should be able to test you for lactose intolerance but really the only treatment is to take the enzyme for they have no way to make you produce what you no longer are producing... the only hope for that is in homepathy... and still it could take a while. I have seen a number of children who were allergic to milk loose the allergy after homeopathic treatment.

I suppose there is a possibility that some gut issues developed it you took a ton of antibiotics and or steroids. They will change the dynamics so drastically in the gut in some cases that some people can digest little without difficulty after such treatments. Working to re-establish noramal gut health would be requried and it is not easy, but there are protocols out there. One of the best written up in a book is called "The Makers Diet" find it on amazon. I don't know if something like this could restore your ability to eat dairy or not.

One of the best things you can do for your gut is to eat homemade yogurt. I use VSL#3 probioitics due to some of my own gut issues.. If you take one of these caps and add it to the yogurt you make into the culture you will have a very highpowered yogurt product. I always keep fresh homemade yogurt around, and like I said most lactose intolerate folks can eat it. Keifer, which can be made homemade is suppose to be even better for the gut.

Hi - homoeopathy works well for allergies for most people but not everyone is susceptible - just make sure you don't take the lactose tablet version - you have to ask for the vegan homoeopathic tablets - most over-the-counter hom. tablets are not vegan - you often have to order them in.

Also, lactose sensitivites can be attributed to faulty protein synthesis in the body and when that function is restored, then people are often no longer lactose intolerant - I have more info on this in a book I own, the Calcium factor by Robert Barefoot but don't have it handy just now. I also suspect that very good nutrition as found in superfoods such as barley grass, for e.g. can help heal the faulty protein sysnthesis - but just my opinion. If you're interested, I could look out the info in the Calcium Factor for you and type it up. i'm not an expert I just happened to have read that part of the book again fairly recently. I agree with the enzymes advice - Good luck, often exploring these things leads us to interesting place sin our lives..xxx