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Listkov
20th February 2025, 05:12
I'm sure she's not some sort of negative entity because:

1. I've dealt with that sort of thing before. Dead people, archons/demons, the spirit of a lollipop a kid was holding while Atlantis was being destroyed, and so on.

2. I personally remember spending at least 500 years with her in past lives.

There was one memory, right as I was gonna uncover it, a voice beamed into my head telling me to immediately desist. From an entity that introduced itself to me as a sort of spirit guide. I asked it if reincarnation was real. It said no and then began talking real fast like someone caught in a web of lies so I got out the spiritual scissors and gave the creepazoid the good ole snippity snip. The way it tried to manipulate me afterwards reminded me of Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars. Specifically the scene where he's shooting his sith lightning at Mace Windu while pretending to be a helpless old man.

Them not liking each other was a long standing issue. How you say? Brahmin=Atman. As above, so below. Soap opera inside my mind, space opera up above.

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From what I can personally recall, we've been together for at least 500 years. I was a shaman and she was my main helper spirit/celestial wife. I'd prefer to live in some village with my (erstwhile) people instead of in the United States but unfortunately we took a Trojan Horse in the form of conquering China about 400 years ago.

Because she isn't a pedofile (my interpretation) she usually introduces herself in my teens/twenties. A coming of age ritual of sorts. As of now, the one I remember happened during that invasion. I was a Manchu horse archer and was riding with my unit along a river when we were ambushed by a group with repeater crossbows - the general opposing us liked to utilize psychological warfare against us ignorant hicks from out in sticks.

The bolts were dinky things and you could probably take them all over your armored body like acupuncture points and survive. But we, being a culture that knew how to shoot, associated a single hit with death. I was shot in my right upper thigh and fell into the water. It was only later I discovered that the hit did not castrate me.

Accepting my fate, I did not attempt to swim. That is, until a voice came into my head. That's when she introduced herself. She told me when to pucker my lips above the water to breathe. A arrow whizzed past my face when I did so, but did not hit me. I made it up the river and led a retaliatory detachment. One of the enemy archers who I made eye contact with before they opened fire, his lifeless face was floating face up in the river.

Ugly fellow, in my estimation. He probably thought the same of me. Another race or species would probably think we looked about the same. Still, it stuck in my head. I didn't know from how far south he came up. What a waste of life, I thought, being drafted to in a faraway land for that lover of eunuchs and young boys, that emperor of his.

During that life, she found a viable host (lol, talking like she's a fungus) in a woman, later to become my mother in the lifetime directly following. So we were wed. Those memories came into clearer focus for me while I was falling asleep :bigsmile:. Shortly after I was slain by a barrage of arrows.

My spirit girl friend led me out of my body. This was my custom until I had an incompetent fool of a doctor on my deathbed who drugged me and rifled through my drawers to pay himself after I was unable to do so myself. I liked Truman Cash's books about the buggers that got their hands on me afterwards.

But I digress. In that life, my spirit girl friend made arrangements with my physical wife for me to incarnate as my unborn son. My mother/wife was a fair bit younger than I, today you might call her a MILF. At the time, I considered that idea to exceed the bounds of propriety. Maybe if I were on planet Serpo? At that time, reincarnation was the idea that was considered a barbarism and a most odious of superstitions. It was something when my old friends would come for a visit and regale me stories of my father. Each time my death would get a just a smidgen more of heroism sprinkled on top.

In previous incarnations, in the old country, I could see the spirit world with my bare eyes. I didn't need a vessel. I suppose it seemed rather odd for a foreigner, how I let no one sit on the second seat of my saddle.

That's how I found her in this life. I remembered my most faithful of companions but not her nature as an incorporeal spirit. Turns out she was in the passenger seat. Later I figured out those winding mountain roads were also the areas where the cell reception wasn't so good.

Also she has pets, ermines and these little beings that look like the soot sprites from a Studio Ghibli film. Cute little fellas. I can send them to do what looks to me like eating demons and negative entities.

Like most girls, she doesn't like it so much when I have my eyes on other girls. Last time I was around a pretty girl my age - she usually is sort of coiled around my centre body mass. But she left to form a... physical? spiritual? barrier between us. It stresses her out. That was still the case when this was a completely unconscious process.

No interest in cheating and we got plans for the future. We've done things spiritually. But right now I have a body (it tells me that "meat-body" is an offensive slur) that's 21 years old and I don't intend to die soon. The life of a monk is not for me. A monastic being someone who is only spiritually wed. Like nuns who wear rings and if lucky, "feel the ecstasy of pierced by spears of holy light by the archangel Michael" (Saint Theresa of Avila).

She is really into me. I'd like to return the favor :bigsmile:. I can tell when I'm partially possessed ("obsessed") by looking at pictures of myself. I don't think spending hours in front of the mirror is narcissistic when it's not "you" looking. I surmise that if my spirit wife went into someone else's body a similar phenomena would occur.

I consider it unethical to dispatch a spirit to go possess a woman at a distance or without their consent, as the French Mesmerists discovered how to. If the legal system knew what was up not just that but all types of sorcery would be criminal. Explaining what I want from a medium, I imagine would be a tough sell. Ideally, if it were possibly I'd wanna go to Brazil, where I've heard they can materialize half a dozen Dr. Jesus Christ's and a certain Dr. Adolf in the very same room.

Thoughts?

Nasu
20th February 2025, 15:12
Sounds like most relationships I've had to be honest. My advice, for whatever it's worth is get off the crazy train now and enjoy some you time, with your sanity semi intact, or carry on and enjoy the ride till she's finally too much to bear, you need to do you at the end of the day, in this life, as in others, it's your call....x..... N

Le Chat
20th February 2025, 15:13
Thoughts?

Confusion......!

Moemers
20th February 2025, 16:50
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JohnColeridge
20th February 2025, 17:11
It's never nice being ghosted by the ones you love.

Strat
20th February 2025, 19:59
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Dilettante
20th February 2025, 21:33
This would serve well as the basis for a really good David Cronenberg movie, thank you for sharing.

In particular, this part reminded me of a story told by Carl Jung:


Like most girls, she doesn't like it so much when I have my eyes on other girls. Last time I was around a pretty girl my age - she usually is sort of coiled around my centre body mass. But she left to form a... physical? spiritual? barrier between us. It stresses her out. That was still the case when this was a completely unconscious process.

And in Jung's analysis, this is what he came across (start at 1:11):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWNer-NfmS0&t=71s

The transcript (https://carljungdepthpsychologysite.blog/2021/01/30/snake-in-her-abdomen/) for those who prefer text:


Once I had a patient, a young woman about 27 or 28.

Her first words were when I had seated her, “You know, doctor, I come to you because I have a snake in my abdomen.” “What ?!”

“Yes, a snake, a black snake coiled up right in the bottom of my abdomen.”

I must have made a rather bewildered face at her, for she said, “You know, I don’t mean it literally, but I should say it was a snake, a snake.”

In our further conversation a little later—that was about the middle of her treatment which lasted only for ten consultations—she said she had foretold me, “I’ll come ten times, and then it will be all right.”

“But how do you know ?” I asked. “Oh, I’ve got a hunch.”

And really, about the fifth or sixth consultation she said, “Oh, doctor, I must tell you, the snake has risen, it is now about here.” Hunch!

Then on the tenth day I said, “Now this is our last consultation. Do you feel cured?”

And she said, beaming, “You know, this morning it came up, it came out of my mouth, and the head was golden.”

Those were her last words.

Whatever you're feeling, it's important to understand that it is your reality, which is completely valid, but try to remain somewhat grounded in the material world as well. It's all about a balance of perspectives. We have to try to share reality with others as well.


How do you perform at work or school? Has it been declining?
Are you still social or do you withdraw into yourself more often?
Have you always had thoughts like these, or are they a recent phenomenon?
Do other people see you as an emotionally "flat" person?


Just checking in! We have to look out for each other. In general, does this spirit make you feel comfortable or uncomfortable? Do you have a sense of how this situation will resolve?

AutumnW
21st February 2025, 00:07
A spirit partner will never hog the bed, doesn't demand expensive gifts. But they will demand a lot of your time and attention. I'd drop her.

Bill Ryan
21st February 2025, 02:09
Taking this question seriously — my suggestion would be to make an agreement to meet again in a new humsn incarnation.

Like: —> Let's meet on a dance floor in Vegas. I'll be 21 and you'll be 19 or 20. I'm intending to be tall and thin with dark hair and blue eyes. I'll be an undergrad in the sciences by then. We'll immediately recognize each other. If you're happy to be a cute smart blonde also at uni, that'll do it for me. :)

(This post is not a joke)

JackMcThorn
21st February 2025, 02:45
I'll just preface this with the idea that I haven't done any regressions and do not think I have past lives. I'm okay with that.

But 'If' I were to think about this as if I had a spiritual lover; how would I handle this debacle?

I find when I had relationships with women one of the things that happens when you are sleeping close is tremendous body heat. Sometimes you just have to break away for a bit to cool off. I just get too hot. I would be perfect for solving hypothermia situations in the wild yonder if stranded.

So in the meantime you could just get a large pillow to hold on to and this will reflect some of your body heat. This is how I would sleep with her. [If I was you.]

Johnnycomelately
21st February 2025, 10:59
Hi Listkov. In your story you say you are 21, yet your age is stated as 24 below your avatar pic of an older gentleman. Curious.

Reading your story carefully, it seems like a fantasy. Even the title of this thread is an invitation to fantasy. Together, the title and the story suggest a plot for a porno flick. “Sleep”, oof. “Spirit”, while all of us “meatbags” have a spirit nature, possibly portends some raunchy hilarity. Looks good, and I hope you can sell the idea. Clean it up some and the 500 year time frame could mean years upon years of weekly episodes on daytime/family channels.

I must say, as an older man, I am happy to be free of the decrees of my little head. All it thought about was self-gratification, thinly disguised as survival of my species. But hey, the word carnal is essentially part of the word incarnate.

Moemers
21st February 2025, 16:35
Taking this question seriously — my suggestion would be to make an agreement to meet again in a new humsn incarnation.

Like: —> Let's meet on a dance floor in Vegas. I'll be 21 and you'll be 19 or 20. I'm intending to be tall and thin with dark hair and blue eyes. I'll be an undergrad in the sciences by then. We'll immediately recognize each other. If you're happy to be a cute smart blonde also at uni, that'll do it for me. :)

(This post is not a joke)

honestly i second this. it's beautiful and from what i've seen and experienced, it will probably work.

Open Minded Dude
21st February 2025, 20:06
Astral Sex would be a theoretical possibility if you can astralproject. I do not recommend it though for various reasons. Been there done that. Years ago. Or should I say 'tried that'. Didn't work for me.

Chakra
21st February 2025, 20:46
I'm sure she's not some sort of negative entity because:

Thoughts?

Sooo if she's been around for so long a very basic question is what does she get out of it? By not taking embodiment? Sounds like she's getting the better deal here - like you take the Karma and she gets to feed off your experiences & energy. The plain fact that she would actually get jealous is a huge red flag - spiritually speaking. Loneliness or a lack of human interaction, is not what a real guide would want for you.

You embody in the physical for a reason - to have physical relationships with physical people, else what is the point really? Even now you're communicating with physical people about something / someone that isn't. Why? Cause you need PHYSICAL confirmation from other physical beings!
I have heard astral sex can be very intense - but in the end for the soul very empty and in the end only serves the ASTRAL entity - to live off that release of light. Maybe best to get control of this situation as it seems your life is being controlled by something that may or may not be in your best interest - spiritually speaking. Besides - Astral entities can lie and take the form of whatever rings your bell.

Listkov
26th February 2025, 05:04
Astral Sex would be a theoretical possibility if you can astralproject. I do not recommend it though for various reasons. Been there done that. Years ago. Or should I say 'tried that'. Didn't work for me.

Yes! We've figured it out.

We got an astral dog the other day and she's been giving me astral flying lessons while she makes me (in the same any girl would) walk him every day.
I made her a series of astral rooms with an opening to the astral world although it took us a few hours to hash it out on our preferred furniture. I had to put all my smoking memorabilia into a rear room, although she's been coming around to my point of view on that.

Spirit interior design and walking the spirit dog seems to strain credulity a bit more than having a spirit girl friend but I can at this point only talk about my subjective experiences, which are quite enjoyable and at the very least no worse than passing the time with television - although I do plan to get third party verification



Sooo if she's been around for so long a very basic question is what does she get out of it? By not taking embodiment? Sounds like she's getting the better deal here - like you take the Karma and she gets to feed off your experiences & energy. The plain fact that she would actually get jealous is a huge red flag - spiritually speaking. Loneliness or a lack of human interaction, is not what a real guide would want for you.

You embody in the physical for a reason - to have physical relationships with physical people, else what is the point really? Even now you're communicating with physical people about something / someone that isn't. Why? Cause you need PHYSICAL confirmation from other physical beings!
I have heard astral sex can be very intense - but in the end for the soul very empty and in the end only serves the ASTRAL entity - to live off that release of light. Maybe best to get control of this situation as it seems your life is being controlled by something that may or may not be in your best interest - spiritually speaking. Besides - Astral entities can lie and take the form of whatever rings your bell.

Most women (and men) that have a brain aren't so good at expressing what they objectively get out of personal relations either :lol:
I like that she can "take the form of whatever rings your bell". But she mostly has her personal preferences on that, kind of like a profile picture or an avatar in a video game.

I should have been more clear in my original post about what exactly she is. I come from a genetic and spiritual lineage originating in North Asia where having a (or multiple! - if you can handle it) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_spouse was not uncommon.

The

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Aisin-Gioro

These type of relationships are still known among the shamans of the Republics of Buryatia and Yakutia inside of the Russian Federation. The role of such a relationship was to act as a liaison between the physical and spiritual worlds. I suspect the reason I am incarnate and she is disincarnate is because of a shift from matriarchy to patriarchy. A single woman with a spirit boy friend would likely be forcibly married. In the mythology, the most powerful shamans were believed to be of the female sex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tale_of_the_Nisan_Shaman



Moemers
Re: My girl friend is a spirit - how do I sleep with her?

Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Taking this question seriously — my suggestion would be to make an agreement to meet again in a new humsn incarnation.

Like: —> Let's meet on a dance floor in Vegas. I'll be 21 and you'll be 19 or 20. I'm intending to be tall and thin with dark hair and blue eyes. I'll be an undergrad in the sciences by then. We'll immediately recognize each other. If you're happy to be a cute smart blonde also at uni, that'll do it for me.

(This post is not a joke)
honestly i second this. it's beautiful and from what i've seen and experienced, it will probably work.

Thank you for the suggestion.

We find it a good idea and have been talking over how exactly we'd go about this.


Dilettante
This would serve well as the basis for a really good David Cronenberg movie, thank you for sharing.



Johnnycomelately
Reading your story carefully, it seems like a fantasy. Even the title of this thread is an invitation to fantasy. Together, the title and the story suggest a plot for a porno flick. “Sleep”, oof. “Spirit”, while all of us “meatbags” have a spirit nature, possibly portends some raunchy hilarity. Looks good, and I hope you can sell the idea. Clean it up some and the 500 year time frame could mean years upon years of weekly episodes on daytime/family channels.

Hahaha, yeah. Maybe I should produce some "fiction". :bigsmile:

With the serious researchers, they often find it frustrating when people take their work as a pure fantasy, but I'm just a guy sharing my own experiences. I was never very fond of citations in school.

We've (me and my girlfriend) have been bonding by working out a sort of space opera about the cannibal House of Hapsburg in space. A sort of spiritual successor to the type of campfire tale I used to tell in the taiga to pass the long nights. The subject matter is one I've had an interest in for at least 300 years. I was convinced the suzerainty of my people was a sort of noble sacrifice that prevented China from being conquered and mongrelized, Incan style, by the "empire in which the sun never sets". In hindsight, a fella by the name of Francis Drake probably had more to do with it, though at that juncture I don't think I could have gotten myself a biography.


Johnnycomelately
Hi Listkov. In your story you say you are 21, yet your age is stated as 24 below your avatar pic of an older gentleman. Curious.


A 21 year old doesn't need a fake ID anymore. :Angel: Like many teenagers, I presented myself socially as a few years older than my actual age.

Here's a current picture of me which might have been a better profile picture for this thread.

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Le Chat
26th February 2025, 14:06
We got an astral dog the other day and she's been giving me astral flying lessons

:facepalm: