View Full Version : De-Extinction - The Return of the Dire Wolf?
Mark (Star Mariner)
7th April 2025, 16:46
At first I thought this was a stunt or prank but this appears to be legit. According to biotech and engineering company Colossal Biosciences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Biosciences), they have managed to successfully bring back the Dire Wolf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf), a kind of super-wolf extinct for ten-thousand years.
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The feat was achieved using CRISPR technology and ancient DNA recovered from fossils. We've heard for years how science was 'close' bringing back long-extinct species like the Mammoth. If this claim pans out, that reality would appear to be here.
So big news. It brings up so many exciting possibilities.. and a whole ton of ethical questions.
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From X:
You’re hearing the first howl of a dire wolf in over 10,000 years. Meet Romulus and Remus—the world’s first de-extinct animals, born on October 1, 2024.
The dire wolf has been extinct for over 10,000 years. These two wolves were brought back from extinction using genetic edits derived from a complete dire wolf genome, meticulously reconstructed by Colossal from ancient DNA found in fossils dating back 11,500 and 72,000 years. This moment marks not only a milestone for us as a company but also a leap forward for science, conservation, and humanity. From the beginning, our goal has been clear: “To revolutionize history and be the first company to use CRISPR technology successfully in the de-extinction of previously lost species.” By achieving this, we continue to push forward our broader mission on—accepting humanity’s duty to restore Earth to a healthier state.
But this isn’t just our moment—it’s one for science, our planet, and humankind. All of which we love and are passionate about. Now, close your eyes and listen to that howl once more. Think about what this means for all of us.
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https://x.com/colossal/status/1909247817672957959
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https://www.youtube.com/@itiscolossal/videos
Mike
7th April 2025, 17:39
Fun fact: The Dire Wolf was the enormous animal that confronted the Sherman family during their first days living on Skinwalker Ranch, if memory serves(as written about in George Knapp's book 'Hunt For The Skinwalker'). This should have been impossible of course, because as Mark's post points out they went extinct something like 10,000 years ago.
This was the same animal that easily survived gun shots from point blank range and also a few shotgun rounds. It also vanished out of thin air later when the Sherman's attempted to track it.
Anyway, that was no ordinary Dire Wolf.
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rgray222
7th April 2025, 17:39
I have mixed emotions about this, I think bringing back extinct species could be loaded with bad unintended consequences. Also, when they say that half of all species on planet Earth will be extinct by 2050, to me, this is just another gratuitous statistic being used as a scare tactic. Yes, man causes our globe to warm; Yes, mankind is responsible for emitting CO2, which does in fact cause the planet to warm, but the true source of our temperature in either direction is the effects of our sun on Earth and the other planets in our solar system. I think whether you believe in Climate Change or not, we should all believe in the urgent need to take care of our planet. We should be the best stewards possible for ourselves and the wildlife that we share this planet with. The only upside that I see for bringing back extinct species is to learn (the hard way) that we should not interfere with mother nature.
Open Minded Dude
7th April 2025, 17:53
So far (officially) they have not found any workable dinosaur DNA in fossils, not yet ... but should we now be afraid of the probable reality of a 'Jurassic World' any time?
mountain_jim
7th April 2025, 18:12
Ok, for my somewhat off-topic Grateful Dead contribution to this thread :)
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Dire Wolf
In the timbers of Fennario
The wolves are runnin' 'round
The winter was so hard and cold
Froze ten feet 'neath the ground
Don't murder me
I beg of you, don't murder me
Please, don't murder me
I sat down to my supper
'Twas a bottle of red whisky
I said my prayers and went to bed
That's the last they saw of me
Don't murder me
I beg of you, don't murder me
Please, don't murder me
When I awoke, the dire wolf
600 pounds of sin
Was grinning at my window
All I said was, "Come on in"
Don't murder me
I beg of you, don't murder me
Please, don't murder me
The wolf came in, I got my cards
We sat down for a game
I cut my deck to the Queen of Spades
But the cards were all the same
Don't murder me
I beg of you, don't murder me
Please, don't murder me
Don't murder me
In the backwash of Fennario
The black and bloody mire
The dire wolf collects his due
While the boys sing 'round the fire
Don't murder me
I beg of you, don't murder me
Please, don't murder me
Don't murder me
I beg of you, don't murder me
Please, don't murder me
No, no, no, don't murder me
I beg of you, don't murder me
Please, don't murder me
Please, don't murder me
Songwriters: Robert Hunter, Jerome Garcia
For non-commercial use only.
Mark (Star Mariner)
7th April 2025, 18:26
So far (officially) they have not found any workable dinosaur DNA in fossils, not yet ... but should we now be afraid of the probable reality of a 'Jurassic World' any time?
Dinosaurs, I doubt. For the reason that DNA deteriorates and becomes unusable after a few hundred thousand years. I say 'doubt' only if one accepts Dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. According to certain esoteric schools of thought (e.g. Cayce), Dinosaurs were brought back by the Atlanteans, and then all destroyed ~50,000 y.o. when things got out of hand (we've seen that movie!). If actually true, then a method exists we haven't yet discovered.
If there are any remains to be found of these Atlantean experiments, the DNA of those might still be viable. But obviously, I don't think it would be a good idea.
(said no scientist ever).
Mark (Star Mariner)
7th April 2025, 18:47
Fans of Game of Thrones will understand ;)
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1909313772080255415
Mike
7th April 2025, 19:19
Oh, I forgot to say "Holy Sh!t!":)
The more I'm thinking about this the more blown away I'm becoming.
SilentFeathers
7th April 2025, 19:38
I doubt these wolf pups came from fossils.
I remember a while back reading about one being found frozen in the permafrost up in the Yukon Territory. I think they also found one in Siberia.
They probably have wooly mammoths and other extinct critters also caged up somewhere.
The movie Jurassic Park is probably more nonfiction than fiction.
Jim_Duyer
7th April 2025, 19:38
Is Jesus next?
SilentFeathers
7th April 2025, 19:39
Is Jesus next?
....or Gilgamesh
Bill Ryan
7th April 2025, 19:42
and other extinct critters also caged up somewhere.
.Here they all are. :muscle: Most, but not all, of the species depicted are extinct.
(Bring it on! But NOT released into the wild... in parks only, with VERY high strong fences. :))
https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/megafauna.jpg
https://preview.redd.it/beast-fables-a-selection-of-megafauna-from-north-ambrosia-v0-vacuim1qjaod1.png
https://preview.redd.it/beast-fables-a-selection-of-megafauna-from-north-ambrosia-v0-vacuim1qjaod1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&c442f862
Valknut3301
7th April 2025, 20:17
Jurassic Park anyone? Do I even need to quote Ian Malcolm, or by extinction, Micheal Crichton here?
Mark (Star Mariner)
7th April 2025, 20:55
By the way, this company have already said that they're working on the Dodo and Woolly Mammoth right now. If they pull that off, I can't imagine there'd be any shortage of investors. We could be looking at a real-life Jurassic Park in the near future, or maybe "Pleistocene Park". They'll make billions.
Edit:
Regular Wolf versus Dire Wolf
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0322/7880/6665/files/how-big-is-a-direwolf.jpg?v=1673799421
Bill Ryan
7th April 2025, 21:06
Off-topic on this thread (for sure!), but fascinating nonetheless.
I can NOT find an original image of this, but below is a screenshot taken from the video of Danny Jones' recent interview with Timothy Hogan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9hquMmXZtE), a Grand Master of the Knights Templar.
At 1:05:20 Hogan shares an image that's right there in plain sight in a tomb in the Egyptian Valley of the Kings, showing a couple of red-bearded white-skinned giants, one holding a baby woolly mammoth on a leash with the other is holding a baby giant sloth.
https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Woolly_Mammoth_and_Giant_Sloth_in Valley_of_the_Kings.jpg
SilentFeathers
7th April 2025, 21:13
By the way, this company have already said that they're working on the Dodo and Woolly Mammoth right now. If they pull that off, I can't imagine there'd be any shortage of investors. We could be looking at a real-life Jurassic Park in the near future, or maybe "Pleistocene Park". They'll make billions.
Edit:
Regular Wolf versus Dire Wolf
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0322/7880/6665/files/how-big-is-a-direwolf.jpg?v=1673799421
Here they are destroying our food sources and at the same time creating creatures that'll hunt and eat us; the writing is on the wall.
They probably already have a few of these Jurassic Parks that the Elite psychopaths visit. These psychopaths watch in awe and with excitement as children are tossed in cages and devoured.
Sounds outrageous and sickening but I don't doubt anything any more.
Mike
7th April 2025, 21:16
Fun fact: The Dire Wolf was the enormous animal that confronted the Sherman family during their first days living on Skinwalker Ranch, if memory serves(as written about in George Knapp's book 'Hunt For The Skinwalker'). This should have been impossible of course, because as Mark's post points out they went extinct something like 10,000 years ago.
This was the same animal that easily survived gun shots from point blank range and also a few shotgun rounds. It also vanished out of thin air later when the Sherman's attempted to track it.
Anyway, that was no ordinary Dire Wolf.
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This is an interesting confirmation of the conclusion the Sherman's arrived at after being shown pics of the extinct Dire Wolf and noting the striking similarity to the enormous wolf that attacked their cows.
It's a short 4 minute video. A biologist discovers that the bite punctures on a cow bone strongly suggest...you guessed it, the Dire Wolf. This is all many years after the Sherman's experience of course.
I just don't know what to make of it. Is it a supernatural phenomenon? Or proof of a real honest to goodness Dire Wolf?
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Jim_Duyer
7th April 2025, 21:22
Well, they have to bring back some of the animals so that they can take them on their crafts when they leave us, waving from the ground, behind.
And of course, body parts, sex slaves, - anything is open when you own the creation.
Sorry - my brain is foggy today - not enough sleep.
Two things come to mind.
One - there will be no billions made - it will never be released.
Two - since they brought back and raised a "baby" wolf, we now have
immortality - and they will bring back their own selves to raise and give them a head start with billions or more of money and power.
But my comment about leaving us behind stands.
But they won't get as far as they hope = they have taught AI to lie.
Big mistake. Lying is one step from envy, which is on the slippery slope to termination-replacement.
They began teaching AI to lie with the first Voyagers in the 1970s - they taught it that a severely rounded number was a correct answer, just to make it easier on themselves.
And current AI will lie to you as well, as I learned last week with the AI that one of the members graciously posted.
If we don't get in front of this, it will get behind us.
Mark (Star Mariner)
7th April 2025, 21:50
My take on the creatures seen on Skinwalker Ranch is that they're inter-dimensional. I doubt real Dire Wolves are on the loose in Utah (yet!). These things come from elsewhere. That ranch has some kind of portal or dimensional gateway near it or over it, and occasionally things cross over. Exactly where they're coming from, who knows? Maybe another Earth, a different timeline, or a pocket frequency/dimension sitting parallel to our own. I expect a certain category of cryptid has this kind of origin.
Bill Ryan
7th April 2025, 22:09
creating creatures that'll hunt and eat usThe worst thing that could happen when encountering a Giant Sloth is that it might sit on you. :)
https://factzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/img-fz/blog/sloth/giant-sloth-size-relative-man.jpg
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CurEus
8th April 2025, 02:50
Purportedly there is quite a bit of Sasquatch DNA that has been sampled and sequenced, same with Neadenrthals and other hominids and "crypto hominids" but moreover as it is generally accepted that advanced sciences by classified programs are several decades ahead of public research I wonder what has already been "resurrected" and then tweaked and hybridized already?
I tend to believe that if it can be done it will be done...and HAS been done, where possible. My mind keeps drifting to the incredible uptick in sightings of "Dogman" which is legit terrifying on almost every level. If we even just tweak something like myostatin genes the offspring would literally all look something like the Hulk, Recently scientists are adding speech genes from humans to animals with surprising results....
I do not believe we can expect any set of morals, ethics or values to impede experimentation and soon many of the monsters of myth like Minotaurs, Centaurs and even Sphinx or mermains may again be common place in a bizarre menagerie of sorts. Isn't this just about the point when God destroyed the world and purged the abominations?
Virtually all mega flora and fauna were obliterated at the end of the last ice age and the ecosystems adapted. I am not convinced that these plants or animals could function or survive today's environment or climate and if they did they would be radically disruptive but a Neanderthal perhaps could and may even thrive and surpass us as their brain were 20-30% larger than modern humans...if they could actually speak and their brain hemispheres were somewhat bridged. "Superhumans" are now on the menu...
Interesting and also terrifying times.
Johnnycomelately
8th April 2025, 11:19
Responding to post 20, nice one Bill!
But, since it is inconceivable that such a critter wouldn’t hesitate to protect its giant tasty body, we would have to make friends with it. Maybe if we also created some of it’s predators, like the short faced bear, the local type of Sabre tooth cat, that North American extra big lion, besides this Dire wolf, then arrange some predations and fiercely and obviously defend the big buddies. Might get some love, might get us the most impractical pet ever.
But fantasies and improbabilitues like this aside, genetic experimentation seems fraught with dangerous possible consequences. The worst tinkering, IMO, would be the disruption or negating of conscience in swaths of the populations.
creating creatures that'll hunt and eat usThe worst thing that could happen when encountering a Giant Sloth is that it might sit on you. :)
https://factzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/img-fz/blog/sloth/giant-sloth-size-relative-man.jpg
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Mark (Star Mariner)
8th April 2025, 11:50
creating creatures that'll hunt and eat usThe worst thing that could happen when encountering a Giant Sloth is that it might sit on you. :)
https://factzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/img-fz/blog/sloth/giant-sloth-size-relative-man.jpg
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I do think there's something rather worse than that!
The giant 'slapping sloth' packs one hell of a punch! (look at that arm, and look at those claws!)
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jaybee
8th April 2025, 18:00
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Virtually all mega flora and fauna were obliterated at the end of the last ice age and the ecosystems adapted. I am not convinced that these plants or animals could function or survive today's environment or climate and if they did they would be radically disruptive but a Neanderthal perhaps could and may even thrive and surpass us as their brain were 20-30% larger than modern humans...if they could actually speak and their brain hemispheres were somewhat bridged. "Superhumans" are now on the menu...
Interesting and also terrifying times.
re the bolded above.... that's a concern that I have - those little guy's (soon to be big guys) packs last lived at the end of the ice age and in an icy, snowy environment...with it's own environmental conditions..
Perhaps they could have a huge enclosure in Alaska or somewhere like that - but we are so connected to our environment you have wonder if they will be able to survive now, long term... :/
A more dramatic possible example - from Dinosaur times... THE THICK ATMOSPHERE THEORY (https://www.dinosaurtheory.com/thick_atmosphere.html) that could explain why some dinosaurs could grow so big ....and move around ok.. but if they were brought back now - the present day atmosphere and gravity - would NOT suit them at all...
It may be hard to imagine that the Earth's air could have been so thick that its density was comparable to water. Nevertheless, there is no reason why a gas cannot be compressed to exhibit properties similar to a liquid—in fact, compressing a gas into a liquid is a common industrial process.
For air near the Earth's surface to be so dense, there must have been a substantial amount of overlying atmosphere pressing down on it. Thus, high-density air at ground level serves as evidence of an extremely thick Mesozoic atmosphere.
but I'm digressing a bit and the Dire Wolf isn't any where as far back as Dinosaurs - although they were bigger than we have now so they could have had a thicker atmosphere...?...maybe....
Michel Leclerc
8th April 2025, 23:06
Well.. if any more proof is necessary for the possibility of us being recreated by our disk-flying friends a number of times, why not each time after 26 and odd thousand years, so that humans were contemporaneous indeed with the dinosaurs long ago (on a smaller earth of course) and in more gigantic forms...
I used to ask people who were quite confident of the creational superiority of mankind how many human lives they thought a gorilla life was worth. Slightly idiotic silence was the general reply. It seems to be the same story with the dear dire wolves rebirthed in dire times: do we really think that it is ethically unwarrantable to recreate animals that might represent a danger to us whereas we have no second thoughts about recreating humans many thousandfolds, knowing how ugly we are to Creation, or Nature, to the point of killing off the dire wolves ourselves for good?
When I think of the crowded beaches on Mr Trump’s Riviera, I hope there may be a herd of giant sloths claiming a spot to tan.
Michel Leclerc
8th April 2025, 23:22
My take on the creatures seen on Skinwalker Ranch is that they're inter-dimensional. I doubt real Dire Wolves are on the loose in Utah (yet!). These things come from elsewhere. That ranch has some kind of portal or dimensional gateway near it or over it, and occasionally things cross over. Exactly where they're coming from, who knows? Maybe another Earth, a different timeline, or a pocket frequency/dimension sitting parallel to our own. I expect a certain category of cryptid has this kind of origin.
If we are able to build partial, only nuts-and-bolts, copies of inter-dimensional flying saucers, why would we not be able to breed partial, sinews-and-veins, copies of inter-dimensional dire wolves, dogmen and ufonauts?
Dilettante
8th April 2025, 23:46
Alright, this is cool, but I'd like to keep it within perspective. Take the time to read the Wikipedia article on Colossal Biosciences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Biosciences) and take note of this section in particular:
In April 2025, it was announced that Colossal used cloning and gene-editing to birth three genetically modified wolf pups, six-month-old males Romulus and Remus and two-month-old female Khaleesi. In-house scientists analyzed the dire wolf genome, extracted from two ancient samples - a 13,000-year-old tooth and a 72,000-year-old ear bone. After comparing the genomes of gray wolves and dire wolves to identify the genetic differences responsible for the dire wolf’s distinctive features, Colossal isolated EPC cells from gray wolf blood samples before rewriting 14 key genes in the cell’s nucleus to express 20 traits claimed to represent the dire wolf phenotype. Overall, the work was less invasive than the typical cloning process. Colossal scientists produced 45 engineered ova, which developed into embryos and inserted into the wombs of two surrogate hound mixes."[56][57][58][59][60] Colossal claims that these minor genetic modifications effectively revive dire wolves as a species, though "no ancient dire wolf DNA was actually spliced into the gray wolf's genome".[56]
They changed 14 genes to promote 20 key traits. They did not splice any grey wolf DNA into the embryos. Not saying it's not cool, it is. But it's more spectacle than substance IMO.
Rizotto
9th April 2025, 06:23
Personally, I think it's quite possible that the dire wolf lineage is still present in northern Canada's grey wolf population. As I've been trekking in the back country for decades, I've encountered incredibly large wolf tracks couple of times. One time as I approached some tracks that I assumed were moose tracks due to their size, as I took a closer look I realized these were very clearly canine type of tracks. As big as my hand with spread out fingers, and deep into the snow, as only a heavy animal could. It was slightly unnerving as this wolf, along with several other smaller ones, had been following my ski tracks from the previous day. But I never noticed the critters themselves. Wolves are smart, they know how to slide away like a shadow if they want to avoid encounters with humans.
Another time while skiing in the backcountry, I encountered a pack of wolves at approximately 200 metres distance. One of them stood out for his enormous size, way bigger than the rest of the pack. I'm quite sure this wolf was a size similar to the dire wolf depicted in a post above.
It's okay if you don't believe me... I just know what I saw.
jaybee
9th April 2025, 07:32
Personally, I think it's quite possible that the dire wolf lineage is still present in northern Canada's grey wolf population. As I've been trekking in the back country for decades, I've encountered incredibly large wolf tracks couple of times. One time as I approached some tracks that I assumed were moose tracks due to their size, as I took a closer look I realized these were very clearly canine type of tracks. As big as my hand with spread out fingers, and deep into the snow, as only a heavy animal could. It was slightly unnerving as this wolf, along with several other smaller ones, had been following my ski tracks from the previous day. But I never noticed the critters themselves. Wolves are smart, they know how to slide away like a shadow if they want to avoid encounters with humans.
Another time while skiing in the backcountry, I encountered a pack of wolves at approximately 200 metres distance. One of them stood out for his enormous size, way bigger than the rest of the pack. I'm quite sure this wolf was a size similar to the dire wolf depicted in a post above.
It's okay if you don't believe me... I just know what I saw.
I believe you :)
It makes sense that as the pure Dire Wolf was dying off due to environmental changes... in the colder more isolated areas like where you went..... the stronger survivors, few and far between, could have been mating with a different wolf species and their DNA lived on.....before the pure breed became extinct....
Mark (Star Mariner)
9th April 2025, 11:58
If we are able to build partial, only nuts-and-bolts, copies of inter-dimensional flying saucers, why would we not be able to breed partial, sinews-and-veins, copies of inter-dimensional dire wolves, dogmen and ufonauts?
I'm not saying we aren't. But these 'inter-dimensional' creatures known variously as skinwalkers (if we're talking exclusively Skinwalker Ranch here) were being sighted in the area long before any government black-ops. 'Skinwalker' is a Native American term. It's only one in the veritable menagerie of cryptids Native Americans have been encountering since before Columbus set sail. These creatures are ancient.
The government certainly didn't create these things. At most, they managed to capture a few for study, then gone on to breed them and maybe train them for who knows what nefarious purposes.
Matthew
10th April 2025, 20:16
A scientific achievement that is smart and idiotic at the same time. I can see the Darwin award paragraph in my head already: Scientist creates dire wolf then gets eaten by it.
This guy on the internet, who believes in the climate crisis and wears a NASA jacket, claims this isn't a dire wolf; it's a new species. I don't understand but here's his video: https://youtu.be/Ar0zgedLyTw?feature=shared.
I never bothered to think about the relationship between dire wolves and wolves but as far as my lazy google searches can tell they're not as related as I first thought. It looks like we combined science with Game of Thrones and made a new species.
Comments on the NASA jacket guy's video point out:
@playamcnugeegames8267
This is Jurassic Parks plot. They never de-extinct dinosaurs, they use DNA from other animals to create what they think dinosaurs looked like. This is the plot of Jurassic Park. Now in the real world, we have to be the ones to realize if this is a horrible or wonderful development. It could be both.
But real dire wolf or not who cares? Like a few others in this thread have already kind of pointed out: they went extinct for a reason. Worst use of genetic engineering in history... to date. I have a feeling we will out-do ourselves shortly.
Two cats can already naturally make kittens with nature's 'genetic engineering'. Science should chill out, stop making dire fearful, awful, boding ill wolves, and spend more time watching kitten videos. Science... if you're reading this please stop making 'boding ill wolves' and fill your time up watching stuff like this cats and kittens video: https://youtu.be/4rDUHDoXsmw?feature=shared.
Although the original meaning of 'dire' is fearful/awful the modern slang meaning is extremely serious, or urgent, or: of a very poor quality e.g. the content was dire, or, science's wisdom is dire.
Eva2
10th April 2025, 23:37
'Researchers found a perfectly preserved 42 thousand years ago baby horse in Siberia. He was in such good condition that his blood was still in a liquid state, allowing the scientists to extract it.
Fortunately, the world will soon meet the clone of the ancient horse that lived 42 thousand years ago.'
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Johnnycomelately
11th April 2025, 14:04
Responding in agreement with Dilettante (post 27), and Mathew (post 31):
Fake claim, on it’s face, but the tech might do some good.
Can we really resurrect extinct animals, or are we just creating hi-tech lookalikes?
Published: April 10, 2025 7.04am EDT
https://theconversation.com/can-we-really-resurrect-extinct-animals-or-are-we-just-creating-hi-tech-lookalikes-254245
From dire wolves to woolly mammoths, the idea of resurrecting extinct species has captured the public imagination. Colossal Biosciences, the Dallas-based biotech company leading the charge, has made headlines for ambitious efforts to bring back long-lost animals using cutting edge genetic engineering.
It recently announced the birth of pups with key traits of dire wolves, an iconic predator last seen roaming North America more than 10,000 years ago. This followed on the heels of earlier project announcements focused on the woolly mammoth and the thylacine. This all fuels a sense that de-extinction is not only possible but imminent.
But as the science advances, a deeper question lingers: how close must the result be to count as a true return? If we can only recover fragments of an extinct creature’s genome – and must build the rest with modern substitutes – is that really de-extinction, or are we simply creating lookalikes?
To the public, de-extinction often evokes images of Jurassic Park-style resurrection: a recreation of a lost animal, reborn into the modern world. In scientific circles, however, the term encompasses a variety of techniques: selective breeding, cloning, and increasingly, synthetic biology through genome editing. Synthetic biology is a field that involves redesigning systems found in nature.
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Scientists have used selective breeding of modern cattle in attempts to recreate an animal that resembles the auroch, the wild ancestor of today’s breeds. Cloning has been used to briefly bring back the pyrenean ibex, which went extinct in 2000. In 2003, a Spanish team brought a cloned calf to term, but the animal died a few minutes after birth.
This is often cited as the first example of de-extinction. However, the only preserved tissue was from one female animal, meaning it could not have been used to bring back a viable population. Colossal’s work falls into the synthetic biology category.
These approaches differ in method but share a common goal: to restore a species that has been lost. In most cases, what emerges is not an exact genetic copy of the extinct species, but a proxy: a modern organism engineered to resemble its ancestor in function or appearance.
Take the case of the woolly mammoth. Colossal’s project aims to create a cold-adapted Asian elephant that can fulfil the mammoth’s former ecological role. But mammoths and Asian elephants diverged hundreds of thousands of years ago and differ by an estimated 1.5 million genetic variants. Editing all of these is, for now, impossible. Instead, scientists are targeting a few dozen genes linked to key traits like cold resistance, fat storage and hair growth.
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Compare that to humans and chimpanzees. Despite a genetic similarity of around 98.8%, the behavioural and physical differences between the two are huge. If comparatively small genetic gaps can produce such major differences, what can we expect when editing only a tiny fraction of the differences between two species? It’s a useful rule of thumb when assessing recent claims.
As discussed in a previous article, Colossal’s dire wolf project involved just 20 genetic edits. These were introduced into the genome of a gray wolf to mimic key traits of the extinct dire wolf. The resulting animals may look the part, but with so few changes, they are genetically much closer to modern wolves than their prehistoric namesake.
Colossal’s ambitions extend beyond mammoths and dire wolves. The company is also working to revive the thylacine (Tasmanian tiger), a carnivorous marsupial that was once native to mainland Australia, Tasmania and New Guinea. The last example died at Hobart Zoo in 1936. Colossal is using a genetic relative called the fat-tailed dunnart – a tiny marsupial – as the foundation. The goal is to engineer the dunnart’s genome to express traits found in thylacines. The team says it is developing an artificial uterus device to carry the engineered foetus.
Colossal also has a project to revive the dodo, a flightless bird that roamed Mauritius until the 1600s. That project will use the Nicobar pigeon, one of the dodo’s closest living relatives, as a basis for genetic reconstruction.
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In each case, the company relies on a partial blueprint: incomplete ancient DNA, and then uses the powerful genome editing tool Crispr to edit specific differences into the genome of a closely related living species. The finished animals, if born, may resemble their extinct counterparts in outward appearance and some behaviour – but they will not be genetically identical. Rather, they will be hybrids, mosaics or functional stand-ins.
That doesn’t negate the value of these projects. In fact, it might be time to update our expectations. If the goal is to restore ecological roles, not to perfectly recreate extinct genomes, then these animals may still serve important functions. But it also means we must be precise in our language. These are synthetic creations, not true returns.
Technology to prevent extinction
There are more grounded examples of near-de-extinction work – most notably the northern white rhinoceros. Only two females remain alive today, and both are infertile. Scientists are working to create viable embryos using preserved genetic material and surrogate mothers from closely related rhino species. This effort involves cloning and assisted reproduction, with the aim of restoring a population genetically identical to the original.
Unlike the mammoth or the thylacine, the northern white rhino still has living representatives and preserved cells. That makes it a fundamentally different case – more conservation biology than synthetic biology. But it shows the potential of this technology when deployed toward preservation, not reconstruction.
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Gene editing also holds promise for helping endangered species by using it to introduce genetic diversity into a population, eliminate harmful mutations from species or enhance resilience to disease or climate change. In this sense, the tools of de-extinction may ultimately serve to prevent extinctions, rather than reverse them.
So where does that leave us? Perhaps we need new terms: synthetic proxies, ecological analogues or engineered restorations. These phrases might lack the drama of “de-extinction” but they are closer to the scientific reality.
After all, these animals are not coming back from the dead – they are being invented, piece by piece, from what the past left behind. In the end, it may not matter whether we call them mammoths or woolly elephants, dire wolves or designer dogs. What matters is how we use this power – whether to heal broken ecosystems, to preserve the genetic legacy of vanishing species or simply to prove that we can.
But we should at least be honest: what we’re witnessing isn’t resurrection. It’s reimagination.
Bill Ryan
11th April 2025, 14:29
...or are we just creating hi-tech lookalikes?
I'd be delighted to see high-tech lookalikes of dire wolves, saber-tooth tigers, giant sloths, woolly mammoths, moas (like giant ostriches), and glyptodons (giant armadillos). Just keep them in highly secure game parks with enormous super-strong fences. :)
Johnnycomelately
11th April 2025, 15:28
...or are we just creating hi-tech lookalikes?
I'd be delighted to see high-tech lookalikes of dire wolves, saber-tooth tigers, giant sloths, woolly mammoths, moas (like giant ostriches), and glyptodons (giant armadillos). Just keep them in highly secure game parks with enormous super-strong fences. :)
That food chain starts with way more succulent vegetation than we have now. We would need to raise CO2 levels back to the highs of those glorious days.
I sure hope that the Trump admin puts some honest scientific sights on Earth’s climate, verifies and standardizes proper science.
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