The Soul's Journey

[onawah]

I just stumbled upon a newish youtube channel with interesting takes on the journey of the soul. I've known quite a few people who have committed suicide, so this particular entry captured my attention.

Spiritual Doc "A channel that explores the teachings of Carl Jung and his contributions to neuroscience and consciousness. We analyze altered states, combining science and spirituality in a unique approach."
(But so far, what is appearing there is largely referenced from Edgar Cayce material.
https://www.youtube.com/@SpiritualDoc0 )

WHAT IS THE PATH OF SUICIDAL SOULS IN THE AFTERLIFE | EDGAR CAYCE
Spiritual Doc
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Mar 2, 2025

"Have you ever wondered what happens to the soul after suicide? The journey does not end with death – it only transforms. In this eye-opening video, we explore the spiritual transition of souls who departed this way, the different paths they may take, and how spiritual guides assist in the process. We also discuss healing places in the afterlife and how the connection between the living and the deceased remains strong.

If you have ever felt signs from departed loved ones, questioned spiritual learning after death, or wish to better understand the soul’s journey, this video is for you. With a deep and thought-provoking narrative, we bring reflections and knowledge based on spiritual accounts and mediumistic experiences."

-Y589OKC_YQ

[Delight]

This was a lovely video, very encouraging, relieving and uplifting. I am sure it has truth in it. Suicide has been a choice of some close people. It is a simply horrific experience IMO. What LEADS to this choice? That is something I contemplate.

A person in my life who was very psychic was convinced that most "people" are not truly souls. He was a brooding kind of person, very deep. He may have been very convinced that life was not worth it. He did not leave a note. He overdosed on Insulin. My behavior toward him before his suicide (or accident?) had been very poor and I was overwhelmed with regret about being left with my actions which could not be remedied. I honestly think I saw his spirit below my window looking up from the stoop soon after he left life here. This freaked me out and I ran to my friends apartment across the hall. I think it was him though I was afraid to allow the scene to unfold.

IMO we are seeing many MORE souls whio have been murdered than suicides. I don't have the statistics... this is just an intuition. Any abrupt exit is potentially leaving alot of unresolved debris for survivors but I do hear that what exiting people experience in the death does not have huge trauma.

I have strong sense that these images of the after life may be used to actually create an after life. This one is quite pleasant. However, from where are these messages coming? I am familiar with the concept that disinforming can happen when 80% of something is true. The other 20% becomes a twisting.

I listened lately to Chuck Swindall who was once indoctrinated in fundamental ideas of Christianity. He said something so important. We are Primarily in a deep and basic MADE BY SOCIETY to see ourselves as Sinner, needing improvement, never able to learn enough, do enough. Because we are programmed, we behave almost reflexively "sinful". We need middle men and saviors because we are so deficient. The Body is deficient. The Life we lead is deficient. Striving is exhausting and what IF we reach some point we "won" but it is "not enough". One is so tired, one may have neglected oneself. One may have inculcated nihilsim. Exit seems the option BECAUSE we see oursemlves as SINNERS" (and that is a place holder for much subtlety.

He goes into a theory in which the Savior myth we believe means we create it. We are sinners, needing a savior, inherantly "full of sin". A sacrifice is needed of one who dies for us so we can live. It identifies the soul as always incomplete. It justifies the earth "suffering".

I have the POV that we are immortal beings of frequency and resonance (translated into materium) who may or may not DO anything at all and still be whole and complete NOW. People DIE violently. This is NOT normal. It starts with a willingness to accept this is "normaL" or reasonable based on a "soul" contract from elsewhere. The wreckage of all the suffering and death depends on an agreement we make with this contract. We have many traps asking agreement.

IMO "I don't know" the particulars at all but I exist. I KNOW WE ARE NOT sinners/incomplete souls needing lessons. This idea is a heart KNOWING. WE ARE ALREADY PERFECT and nature is NOT what we believe and the Body is a temporary but FABULOUS vehicle. .

How I live knowing I am PURE and have all needed for this journey Does depend on a relationship with an Unknown but loving Presence. IMO knowing this makes suicide a ridiculous notion. IMO is where the focus gets juicy. This is the Apocalypse revealing the underpinnings of a soul journey.

[Johan (Keyholder)]

Some years ago I read a couple books authored by Jozef Rulof, a Dutch channel who died in 1952.
Many of his books are quite interesting and have been translated into English.
They can be read, for free, here: https://rulof.org/Read-online.html

He has written quite a bit about people that have committed suicide and what happens with them in the afterlife;

[onawah]

My older brother committed suicide, and several years afterward, I had a reading from a medium during which he "came through" and apologized to me for not being the kind of brother I had hoped he would be.
I was very surprised to learn that he was still on the "other side" and had not incarnated again.
He said he was being intensely schooled and apparently that was a requirement before he would be moving on.
I suppose I was surprised because I was assuming that somene who committed suicide would have to reincarnate at once under similar circumstances in order to have another go at whatever lesson had not been learned, which had led to the suicide.
(But I suppose that the passage of time may be quite a relative experience when one is out of body, and perhaps the wait was also due to the exactly right circumstances not yet having materialized for his next incarnation. )

My brother was the first one to come through during the session and there was an urgency that the medium was obviously feeling; she was overwhelmed by his energy until he had succeeded in delivering his message.
I'm sure that was because right after he committed suicide, a negative entity that was attached to him was inherited by me, whereupon I became suicidal as well.
I was told by two different psychic healers that negative entities are frequently passed on to family members, usually from the parent to the oldest child, and then from the oldest child to the next oldest sibling.
Fortunately, I was able to resist and dissipate the energy from that entity that came through from my brother, and so I was its last victim, or so I was told by one of those psychics, who also told me that I had incarnated into that family in part because I had committed suicide in a past life, as had my other family members, and that I had chosen that family in order to work on some lingering karma from that past suicidal act.

One of my other siblings, the eldest sister, also committed suicide (she was the first to do so).
The next eldest sister appeared to have committed suicide, but I learned much later from her son that she had actually been murdered by her husband when she confronted him about his criminal activities.
(Which could be considered a rather suicidal act in itself, as he turned out to be quite a ruthless character.)
My mother had attempted suicide when I was 9 years old, so suicide became an issue for me at quite a young age.

I had no reason to disbelieve what the medium was relaying, since there were several other people who came through during the reading whom I had known well.
The messages that were being relayed were all so genuine, and I could feel the presence of each personality as they spoke.
Including one that recounted in detail a particular conversation I had had with that friend who had recently passed, which dissipated any doubts I might have had about the medium being genuine.
She was genuinely talented!

[Delight]

My older brother committed suicide, and several years afterward, I had a reading from a medium during which he "came through" and apologized to me for not being the kind of brother I had hoped he would be.
I was very surprised to learn that he was still on the "other side" and had not incarnated again.
He said he was being intensely schooled and apparently that was a requirement before he would be moving on.
I suppose I was surprised because I was assuming that somene who committed suicide would have to reincarnate at once under similar circumstances in order to have another go at whatever lesson had not been learned, which had led to the suicide.
(But I suppose that the passage of time may be quite a relative experience when one is out of body, and perhaps the wait was also due to the exactly right circumstances not yet having materialized for his next incarnation. )

My brother was the first one to come through during the session and there was an urgency that the medium was obviously feeling; she was overwhelmed by his energy until he had succeeded in delivering his message.
I'm sure that was because right after he committed suicide, a negative entity that was attached to him was inherited by me, whereupon I became suicidal as well.
I was told by two different psychic healers that negative entities are frequently passed on to family members, usually from the parent to the oldest child, and then from the oldest child to the next oldest sibling.
Fortunately, I was able to resist and dissipate the energy from that entity that came through from my brother, and so I was its last victim, or so I was told by one of those psychics, who also told me that I had incarnated into that family in part because I had committed suicide in a past life, as had my other family members, and that I had chosen that family in order to work on some lingering karma from that past suicidal act.

One of my other siblings, the eldest sister, also committed suicide (she was the first to do so).
The next eldest sister appeared to have committed suicide, but I learned much later from her son that she had actually been murdered by her husband when she confronted him about his criminal activities.
(Which could be considered a rather suicidal act in itself, as he turned out to be quite a ruthless character.)
My mother had attempted suicide when I was 9 years old, so suicide became an issue for me at quite a young age.

I had no reason to disbelieve what the medium was relaying, since there were several other people who came through during the reading whom I had known well.
The messages that were being relayed were all so genuine, and I could feel the presence of each personality as they spoke.
Including one that recounted in detail a particular conversation I had had with that friend who had recently passed, which dissipated any doubts I might have had about the medium being genuine.
She was genuinely talented!

Your family members were terribly treated by the System in some way or other or would not have suicided. People talk about the "matrix" which IMO overlays as an intricate "mechanical" program. Lately I feel drawn to listen to people talk about a realm that interpenetrates our realm and in the penetration, harm is done to us. IMO the avenue is through the mind. I now consider this a truth to guide me. We are manipulated in anti-humane mind games. I am of the POV now that there are "demonic" entities who hate humans, who seek an energy of horror, destruction and shame.

Jerry Marzinski PhD in clinical psychiatry now knows through his experience with schizophenics that the voices are not hallucinations. There are patterns of contact and common features. His days in mental institutions and prisons showed him that there are NHI who parasitize the humans for food. His work is to assist people in liberating themselves. ONE TIME, a patient approached him and said that the voices wanted to speak to him directly. A gutteral voice demanded. "Who are YOU to interfere with OUR WAY OF LIFE". This shocked him and was when he realized these were entities apart from the schizophrenic sufferer.

It saddens me so much to hear how many people in your family were captured by the familiar demon. In a family line, apparently demons ARE passed generationally. So many are trying to discover how to liberate the demons.

Jerry Marzinski thinks that the demons we face are privates in a hierarchical army. They are told they must torment people or they will be punished, maybe become "nothing". they are told they have no light and will cease to exist unless they further the demands made. When Marzinski told some "voices" that they do have light of their own (however dim it may become), they became so ANGRY at having been deceived.

Interesting stories EVERYWHERE now of people and their contact with that nonphysical realm. I have already said I am very dubious about deliberately seeking any contact. However, I am also sure we must CONTEND with whatever we meet that is interfering. YES, I absoluetly feel I am protected and IMO we each can choose to release whatever would keep us separatedfrom SOURCE by whatever name. IMO there is a vast difference between that "spiritual hierarchy" at all levels and a relationship with God direct. IMO people who cave in to the pressure to be become unalive would never take that step IF they were in a relationship which FED THEM enough energy so they could withstand assault. Depleted energy is a hallmark of contact with NHI.

IMO knowing there is a way to access protection, sustenance and healing of our being changes everything. We don't have to use our MIND to know and receive what is needed to thrive IMO! IMO the endless modeling of ideas of the meaning of our "life" and "the afterlife" have been fed us so we will be the creators of Inversion. Example, no hierarchy as TRUTH becomes multiple mechanical system HIERARCHIES in our realm because we recreate the hierarchies WE believe exist. The real world is spiritual and IMO it is NOT in the astral. That IMO is the source of the overlay of mind created thought form.