The Magenta Protocol - Why the First Known “Crash” May Have Been No Accident

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should never have posted to this site.


darn.

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the mind wanders

factions in time
temporal cold/hot wars

we sit on an island of time aghast

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https://x.com/pavelibarrameda/status/1915480031331311713

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On the latest Psicoactivo, we have UFO researchers Craig Oliver and Michael Armentor reacting to Harald Malmgren's confirmation of their Magenta UFO Crash retrieval investigation from 1933. An event that could be considered the first UFO Crash Retrieval in history, that has OG spook Allen Dulles right in the middle of it.

Timestamps.

00:00 Intro
01:02 What is The Magenta Project?
03:08 How did Craig & Michael meet?
04:51 The first UFO Crash Retrieval in history.
08:29 Could UFO’s be reverse-engineered tech?
14:48 Operation Paperclip reimagined & Operation Sunrise.
20:10 Secret Societies.
22:24 Would Craig and Michael keep the secrecy too?
38:39 Miscellaneous break.
39:22 Slide on the shape of the crashed UFO.
49:18 Mussolini’s family involvement in Magenta.
01:18:55 Knights of Malta & The Vatican.
01:22:57 Potential NAZI influence in today’s world thanks to Dulles.
01:27:04 Mussolini memo.
01:36:29 Chris Sharp & Geoff Cruickshank.
01:36:53 Too soon to talk about the McGregor Project.
01:39:18 Glenn Gaffney.
01:42:29 Where the Deep State originated.
01:47:19 The Magenta Project announcement.
01:57:28 Outro.


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https://x.com/UAPJames/status/1914839220226597298

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https://x.com/UfoBloke/status/1904433687732891803

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In 1933 a cylindrical UFO crashed near Milan, Italy. Inside were two human bodies around 1.80m long with blond hair/blue eyes. After the war all the debris and bodies were sent to the US.

And now we we have corroboration of this event from UFO whistleblower David Grusch, who described this UFO crash retrieval which preceded Roswell. Here are source documents from the case, in Italian.

https://reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/ppmghk/in_1933_a_cilindrical_ufo_crashed_near_milan/

Being type: Nordics... #ufotwitter #uaptwitter

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Donovan carried out retrieval of Magenta craft, Angleton made deals with Vatican. Making a doc on Magenta after working with my research partner and Geoff Cruikshank putting it together.

https://youtu.be/FlxB2SzXYks?si=A6ZQWfWN92KPQuqz

Went long on US power structure after:


https://x.com/MagentaUFOUAP/status/1915295008028336617

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A couple new statements from UFO whistleblower Grusch via a new article on Blendle (a Dutch mag) where
@MaxMoszkowicz
got to interview Grusch and also some see of the Italy 1933 UFO crash docs. The part about Russia... reminded me of DeLonge's General: "And somewhere in those years, we found a life form."

Are only America and Italy involved?
Grusch: "No, there are also known cases in Russia, for example. It even resulted in a race with the Russians to see who could master the UAP technology first."

Has anyone tried to address this before?
Grusch: "Yes, but they have disappeared, or have been silenced with serious threats. This is life-threatening knowledge."

Link to source article from Blendle: https://shorturl.at/mrIY9

H/T:
@MetaStudioLogic
for this find.

#ufotwitter #uaptwitter


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https://x.com/robertsepehr/status/1666466277395927041

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A good description from
@LiberationTimes
of the alleged Nordic ETs that were recovered in the 1933 UFO crash in Italy (as discussed by UFO whistleblower David Grusch).

Two males, very tall (around 7ft), long blonde hair, very high and spacious foreheads, clear blue eyes that look somewhat Asiatic, small noses, small mouths, small chins, thin lips, very clear pale skin, but no signs of facial hair. Their hands, although slender are human-like, their toes are small and their feet flat.

Pretty much, could "walk among us."

https://liberationtimes.com/home/disclosure-road-leads-to-rome

#ufotwitter #uaptwitter

https://x.com/planethunter56/status/1667326299944423424

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Extratempestrial Visitors. Adds up.

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A good description from
@LiberationTimes
of the alleged Nordic ETs that were recovered in the 1933 UFO crash in Italy (as discussed by UFO whistleblower David Grusch).

Two males, very tall (around 7ft), long blonde hair, very high and spacious foreheads, clear blue eyes that look somewhat Asiatic, small noses, small mouths, small chins, thin lips, very clear pale skin, but no signs of facial hair. Their hands, although slender are human-like, their toes are small and their feet flat.

Pretty much, could "walk among us."

https://liberationtimes.com/home/disclosure-road-leads-to-rome

#ufotwitter #uaptwitter

https://x.com/planethunter56/status/1667326299944423424

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there's our time travelers

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kinda fun to think they could be from somewhere silly like ... Delaware, just Delaware in the year 10,042.

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i'd be remiss to not say discuss further ideas on this subject. though it also will involve an assumption or two, please bear in mind.

Lue. Elizondo. plus Randall. Carlson. plus. Jacques. Vallee.

Particularly Elizondo has made comments of feeling very somber around this subject. If we are on to something with the time travelers, we might be on to something else.

Elizondo suggests that UFOs are not just passive observers of human progress—they are actively managing or intervening at key moments to ensure we don’t spiral out of control.

We are not in control. - Vallee

Elizondo knows we’ve been watched, nudged, warned.

Our leaders made tacit agreements with an intelligence they didn’t fully understand.

A reset has happened before.

Ancient collapse myths. Civilizational resets. Time travel elements. - Carlson, among many others.

These may not be folklore. They may be protocol.

They may not allow us to proceed unchecked.

Our nukes, tech, and behavior are being graded, not just watched.

The Magenta beacon may’ve been a last chance alert to someone.

Time travel introduces causal responsibility.

If they’re future humans—or future versions of us—they're not just watchers.

The public isn’t prepared.

Disclosure isn’t just about “aliens exist.”

If they are already here and interacting with us in a big way I have some worries of where we may be in a reset cycle

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the real trick is getting a computer from just close enough in time that we can still read and possibly interface with to "see" what might be coming. biff giving Marty the sports book. only biff didn't give Marty anything.

we took it.

if I've thought of it in the last few years, I'm sure it's already been done:
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today's actual journaled thoughts:

A computer or database from the future could already be sitting somewhere on Earth.

As our tech improves, it becomes more readable — maybe now. Or more nuanced, future humans may send back a craft or computer from only 100 years into the future, one we may be able to manipulate.

Whoever gets it, if not carefully managed, could destroy the timeline through sheer greed or shortsightedness and could control it forever...

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when I think too much about time travel, I literally lose sleep. also, when I think about it too much the synchronicities in my life get ... uncomfortable. it USUALLY means I'm on to something. taking a break to keep it from you all, if you know what I mean. but I always coming crawling back.

[Open Minded Dude]

Aren't there any other explanations than time travel(lers)?
For me they could also seem like interdimensional travellers, leaving open if they are 'also' from another physical star system of this universe. To me the notion of "ETs/Aliens" is always depending on how you define it in the first place (wide or narrow).
Just saying - and yes I admit, I am not a 'fan' or believer of the time travel explanations at all. Too much of a typical sci-fi trope for me.
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Aren't there any other explanations than time travel(lers)?
For me they could also seem like interdimensional travellers, leaving open if they are 'also' from another physical star system of this universe. To me the notion of "ETs/Aliens" is always depending on how you define it in the first place (wide or narrow).
Just saying - and yes I admit, I am not a 'fan' or believer of the time travel explanations at all. Too much of a typical sci-fi trope for me.
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100% i'm just stuck hard on this one! if it's only time travelers, i think that'd be weird, too!

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final one then break incoming:


at 19 i was convinced, pretty much certainly there is something else.

a check in occurred at 29.

not once in there was time travel a thought.

i think a sliver of the ufo file can be attributed to time travel. a really fascinating, dare i say INEVITABLE small, tiny piece of this thing.

if it's time travel i think it's also by nature interdimensional.
i really, really hope there is a sliver set aside for inter-planetary.
its also 100 things we've not thought up yet.

but time travel is in there - if there is anything going on at all. I'm still skeptical when our governance is involved. THESE ARE ALL STORIES TO ME.

what I bumped up against at 19 and 29?

NO idea. But time travel became a part of it somewhere along the line. it feels involved. that might fade.

midlifey now and no real experiences to speak of.

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If you can, do yourself a favor and enjoy this book. Just came out:

They Built the Earth:

In "Who Built the Moon?" and "Civilization One" (as well as "They Built the Earth"), Christopher Knight and Alan Butler propose that an advanced civilization—possibly from the future—designed key aspects of Earth, the Moon, and human civilization using the megalithic yard as a universal measuring standard. Their overarching thesis is that time travelers seeded or engineered elements of our reality, using precise mathematics and astronomy as fingerprints.

Fun to piece together this book with the work of Randall Carlson. I really think there is something here.

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bumping my own thread, because it's where i'll dump these thoughts instead of flooding the ufo forum with my BS.

time travel and Gaia:

if earth has what we'd call the great spirit, mother spirit, etc., i think you know what i mean and IF time travel happens/exists:

I don't think you're navigating only a space-time calendar.
I think you're also navigating a living being with moods, memory, and maybe even a sense of vengeance.

[Mark]

None of it is impossible. All of it is possible. And, possibly, quite possibly, all occurring, together, simultaneously. Angels, Demons, Djinns, the Sidhe, gods and goddesses, time travel, star travel, infinite dimensions, infinite universes.

I see the imagination as a portal. If we can imagine it, it exists, somewhere, somewhen, considering the initial conditions of each universe within the multiverse. There is a Disney universe. There is a Marvel universe. We just tap into these stories and bring them here, for amusement but, also, for edification.

There are no limits. No tropes.

All is possible, all is real. Somewhere, somewhen.

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SO: THE PYRAMID!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwK3XIxTvzU&t=6533s

allegedly, a 40 foot, metallic tic-tac shaped ... something MIGHT be under the great pyramid.

food for thought:
The Great Pyramid might be a vault built by a highly advanced earlier civilization, not a tomb. this is nothing new.

The tic-tac craft beneath it, if real, could be a buried time ship, energy device, or data capsule. OR a version of the sign post: LEAVE THIS PLACE ALONE - THEY ARE OURS. THIS IS OURS. It could be a tomb, nothing, or anything. I get that.

The Temple of Hathor shows strong hints of technological and space-faring themes — possibly recording a migration or escape.

The time travel loop? We’re already in it.

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i'm not saying its a time travel device.


yes. yes, i am.

[CaptnNemo]

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i'm not saying its a time travel device.


yes. yes, i am.


Again...A whole lot of nothing as usual. People that claim they know stuff but can't talk about it. I'm kind of fed up with these individuals. You either tell what you know or just stfu! loll

I've been seeing these kinds of "Non revelations" for decades now....Yeah I'm 50 years old...and still we know jack squat!

I'm at a point of just letting stuff happen and will deal with it when it does if it does.

Let's just enjoy every day's life as it goes and be happy in the present moment!

Sorry about the mini rant!

P.s. Nothing against you Peace! :)

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SOOOOOOO much of that, and i get it!

very frustrating. I trust the astronomer here, i think with time something will come of this.

(probably not a time travel device - but SOMEthing).

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HEY!!

Not a long wait:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/394040040_Aligned_multiple-transient_events_in_the_First_Palomar_Sky_Survey_Spanish_Virtual_Observatory

Abstract
Old, digitized astronomical images taken before the human spacefaring age offer a rare glimpse of the sky before the era of artificial satellites. In this paper, we present the first optical searches for artificial objects with high specular reflections near the Earth. We follow the method proposed in Villarroel et al. (2022) and use a transient sample drawn from (Solano et al. 2022). We use images from the First Palomar Sky Survey to search for multiple (within a plate exposure) transients that, in addition to being point-like, are aligned along a narrow band. We provide a shortlist of the most promising candidates, including one with ∼3.9σ statistical significance. As in previous cases (Villarroel et al. 2021, Solano et al. 2023), no known astrophysical or instrumental explanations fully account for these events. We explore remaining possibilities, including fast reflections from highly reflective objects in geosynchronous orbit, or emissions from artificial sources high above Earth's atmosphere. Notably, the ∼3.9σ candidate coincides in time with the Washington D.C. 1952 UFO flyover, and another (a ∼2.0
σ candidate) falls within a day of the peak of the 1954 UFO wave (Figuet 1980). We also find a highly significant (∼22σ) deficit of transients from Solano et al. 2022 within Earth's shadow, supporting the interpretation that sunlight reflection plays a key role in producing these events. This study should be viewed as an initial exploration into the potential of archival photographic surveys to reveal transient phenomena, and we hope it motivates more systematic searches across historical datasets.

THIS is why i was hyped: Villarroel is the real deal!

Conclusions: 11. CONCLUSIONS:
This paper presents a first systematic search for multiple, simultaneously appearing and vanishing optical point588sources on long-exposure photographic plates that also exhibit spatial alignment. We focus on the red POSS-I plates,589and present five top candidate events with three or more transients aligned along a narrow band. The most statistically590significant case (Candidate 5) coincides in time with the well-documented Washington D.C. 1952 UFO flap—one of591the most prominent mass sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) in recorded history. A separate study592(Bruehl & Villarroel 2025) confirms a statistically significant (>3) temporal correlation between VASCO transients593and independent historical UAP reports.594The origin of the transients remains unknown. One plausible explanation is that they are caused by brief light595emissions from artificial objects in orbit or by objects with anomalous movements in Earth’s atmosphere—emissions596so brief that they appear as point sources rather than streaks, despite the telescope tracking the stars. Alternatively,597they could arise from solar reflections o↵flat, highly reflective surfaces at geosynchronous altitudes. The latter598interpretation is further supported by our shadow test in Section 8, which reveals a significant deficit of such events599within the Earth’s umbra, consistent with a solar reflection origin and difficult to reconcile with many explanations,600including photographic plate defects.601Our results motivate continued investigation of historical sky surveys and the application of similar alignment-based602detection methods to modern deep-sky imaging. Whether or not these events ultimately point to the existence of603NTAs, the identification of statistically improbable, spatially aligned transients in pre-satellite data represents a novel604observational anomaly deserving of further scientific attention. Future work may help clarify whether these transients605constitute a new class of astronomical phenomena—or represent the first hints of artificial activity near our planet.606


TL:DR: evidence of something(s) orbiting/transiting our planet well before manmade objects were up

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a little easier to digest