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Mike
25th April 2025, 16:13
Bret and Heather break it all down. 14 mins:

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Bret is a little behind the 8 ball (he kind of poo pah's chem trails) but is as appalled as any of us with this impending experiment (which as far as I'm concerned has been going on for a long while now and is only going public now).

I have great admiration for many of these mainstream intellectuals, but it often takes them a while to fully come around to what we here in the alt space have known for some time.

Anyway, "they" are making their move now openly, only cloaking it all in deceptive language of course. Frightening.

I chuckled at the title of the video. The UK is the last place that needs sun dimming...but okay:). I s'pose it's viewed as a good place to begin the experiment due to it's relatively small numbers and softened up citizenry. It'll be interesting to see what kind of fight they put up. I'll be cheering them on from the cheap seats.

jaybee
25th April 2025, 17:10
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thanks for starting the thread, Mike..... I was thinking one was needed -

oh dear, oh dear, oh cor blimey, lawks a mercy .....what fiendish plans are afoot (or have been in progress secretly for a while and are NOW being publically wheeled out to get a gage on public reaction etc etc....)

Imagine us Brits - as you say - one of the last places to actually need sun dimming - having what (relatively few?) good sunny days we have - f**ked up, good and proper by the Evil {cough} Climate Change {cough} Scientists....


We have had some summers in recent years that were decidedly lacking in sun.... now we have to consider if it was :shocked: 'THEM':shocked: doing it.....

I had a thought when I read your opening post..... remember Wilhelm Reich's 'Cloudbuster' ....

just sayin'...... :eyebrows:


How To Make Your Own Wilhelm Reich Cloudbuster (4:22)


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this is the only video on this subject I've looked at so far... not sure if I could make it myself - but there are going to be lots of practical clever people who will be able to - would the sunlight blocking layers be bustable...?...... dunno...... and what would come down if they were....?

going to stop there, for now.....

bojancan
25th April 2025, 17:26
We all know... who is behind this.. and decades for "chemtrailing" above us too... specially is happening in US Canada and EU...
Where are those in Trump circle now... in RFKj circle... Gates told us all, how he visited few times Trump...
I am expecting some feedback on this dimming stuff...:worried:

Mike
25th April 2025, 17:33
We all know... who is behind this.. and decades for "chemtrailing" above us too... specially is happening in US Canada and EU...
Where are those in Trump circle now... in RFKj circle... Gates told us all, how he visited few times Trump...
I am expecting some feedback on this dimming stuff...:worried:

They're implementing the same plan here in the US by using a combination of Trump's hair dye and Gates' semen particles to block out the sun. Or at least so says the title of your next video, no doubt.

Strat
25th April 2025, 17:43
Mr Burns did this
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Can someone post an article or something? I'm not a fan of youtube videos (yes I see the irony of this post lol). I can post an article later tonight, I'm just a bit busy at the moment.

Bill Ryan
25th April 2025, 19:09
Can someone post an article or something? Here's one of many, this from Newsweek who (to their credit!) are skeptical, even citing The Simpsons. :)

https://newsweek.com/experiment-dim-sun-uk-sparks-alarm-2063537

Reported Experiments to 'Dim the Sun' Spark Alarm: 'Never Seen a Film?'

The U.K. government's reported plans to allow experiments that could "dim the sun" has sparked comparisons to apocalyptic action film plots and villainous schemes cooked up by cartoon characters.

While some see the initiative as a desperate but necessary step amid rising global temperatures, others express alarm at the prospect of interfering with natural systems.

Why It Matters

As scientists and political leaders say climate change is intensifying and pushing the planet toward dangerous thresholds, innovative approaches to cooling the Earth gain heightened significance.

Researchers suggest that dimming the sun's rays by reflecting a fraction of solar radiation could potentially help lower surface temperatures and potentially mitigate extreme heat events.

In the U.S., for example, NASA warns (https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/effects/) that warming temperatures could mean the amount of land consumed by wildfires in Western states is projected to increase by two to six times by the year 2050.

Such geoengineering methods are viewed as tools that might buy time for societies to scale up carbon reduction efforts.

Climate change has also proved a divisive political issue. Whilst there is a broad scientific consensus on the issue, climate skepticism is still prevalent in some quarters.
In the U.S., President Donald Trump (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/donald-trump)'s administration have ushered in major rollbacks of environmental regulations (https://www.newsweek.com/epa-rollbacks-trump-administration-climate-change-clean-air-rules-2044415).

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2632402/sun.jpg?w=1200&f=926645d15caf7106a47876df202ec19b
The sun rises behind the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge on April 09, 2024 in San Francisco, California.

What To Know

According to a report from The Daily Telegraph (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/22/experiments-to-dim-the-sun-get-green-light/?msockid=0d4cac23e7b86a221b65b876e6036b9a), the U.K. government is poised to authorize small-scale outdoor trials aimed at reducing solar radiation and its Advanced Research and Invention Agency (ARIA) has set aside $66.5 million (£50 million) for the endeavor.

The experiments could involve the controlled release of reflective substances—designed to mimic natural aerosols—into the atmosphere. This method is intended to decrease the amount of solar energy reaching the surface, potentially easing heat extremes in a warming climate.

They could also involve brightening clouds to reflect sunshine, the Telegraph reported. This could be accomplished by spraying sea salt in the lower atmosphere to increase the reflectivity of clouds over the ocean.

Clouds form when water vapor condenses around tiny particles like dust or salt. Adding more particles creates more, smaller droplets, which reflect sunlight more effectively.

The trials will reportedly be conducted with strict safety protocols.

"Everything we do is going to be safe by design," professor Mark Symes, the program director for ARIA, told the Telegraph. "We're absolutely committed to responsible research, including responsible outdoor research.

"We have strong requirements around the length of time experiments can run for and their reversibility and we won't be funding the release of any toxic substances to the environment."

The proposed experiment has been met with mixed reactions.

"Montgomery Burns approves," wrote one X user in response to an article about the plans, a reference to the unscrupulous billionaire businessman in The Simpsons, who in one famous episode of the animated comedy, attempts to block out the sun.

What People Are Saying

Reacting to the story on GB News, comedian Steve Allen said: "I love science... but have they never seen a film?...'I know what we'll do, we'll just scorch out the sun'—Matrix! You're 20 minutes in, that's how it happens."

Utah Senator Mike Lee said on X: "On a scale of one to ten, how much do you trust the UK to 'dim the Sun' without causing problems?"

In a statement shared with Newsweek, Mike Hulme, professor of human geography at the University of Cambridge said: "This program is consuming a large amount—£50m plus—of scarce U.K. public research funding that should be much better invested into technologies to accelerate next generation clean energy technologies and also unto advancing technologies for removing CO2 from the air. It is illusory to think that deliberate manipulation of clouds and of the atmosphere's composition to create a sun-screen for the planet is a safe, governable and desirable form of environmental management.

"It holds out a false promise that climate change risks can be defused in this way; the naivety of it is breathtaking."

Matthew Henry, postdoctoral research fellow at the University of Exeter's College of Engineering, Mathematics, and Physical Sciences told Newsweek: "It is important to note that injecting aerosols to cool the planet would only work for as long as the injection occurs. If, for any reason, we suddenly stop, all the masked warming from aerosol injection would occur quite suddenly. Hence, we certainly should not use solar geoengineering as an excuse to not cut emissions.

"However, I believe we need to study solar geoengineering as it is the only potential tool we have to reduce temperatures on a short timescale. Once we reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions, global temperatures only stabilize (they don't go back down), and the melting of glaciers and sea level rise will continue

"While it is possible to remove carbon from the atmosphere, it remains slow and expensive for now. We are currently on track for, at least, two degrees of warming, which already might have devastating impacts."

Henry added that climate models used to study climate change can also assess geoengineering interventions, but they have significant uncertainties. Small-scale experiments funded by ARIA could help refine these models by providing real-world data to better represent localized processes, Henry said.

An ARIA spokesperson told Newsweek: "These approaches are not a substitute for decarbonization, which is the only long-term and sustainable way to reduce the risk of encountering climate tipping points.

"The projects in the program are designed to explore potential approaches to actively reduce global temperatures in the immediate term, to act in conjunction with long-term decarbonization efforts."

What Happens Next

Full details on the activities and timelines for funded projects will be announced in the coming weeks, the ARIA spokesperson said.

jaybee
28th April 2025, 21:51
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I just made a post on the UK Politics thread about all this....

post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129515-UK-politics-2025-and-beyond.....&p=1666036&viewfull=1#post1666036)

I won't be making light of the situation any more - I'm really upset about it - having witnessed the reality of the new insanity over the last 2 days....

They are saying about it getting approval soon....BUT.... the sky where I live in the West Midlands, UK has been covered with God knows what for the last 2 days.... so it's already up and running - what would have been a lovely sunny April day with a beautiful blue sky was ruined by the evil project ..... the ridiculous project....

There's something very sinister about it - and it gives you a helpless, abused feeling.... but I said how I felt in my other post - that I linked to -

This is to share Dr John Campbell's video about it.... thank god for John and the work he does...bless his heart a thousand times and more...

High risk British research (10:13)

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GOVERNMENT PETITION for UK CITIZENS (https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701963)


Make all forms of 'geo-engineering' affecting the environment illegal

We want all forms of geo-engineering to be illegal in the UK. We do not want any use of technologies to intervene in the Earth's natural systems.

jaybee
29th April 2025, 08:16
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The planes have been out again today, since very early morning.... making a ugly mess of would have been a beautiful blue sky....

I think they must be military planes OR private contractors? OR I read somewhere that planes and equipment are being specially made for the job.... :-(

Now I know how the people who have lived with Chem Trails all these years feel.... it's a feeling of helplessness and vulnerability - anger and fear - this whole thing is real and it, more than likely, isn't being done for the reasons they say - the 'climate warming' excuse could be just a cover for something MUCH more sinister - if it was for what they say it would still be dangerous (aka NOT safe and effective).... but ..... we must remember that the 'Elite's' population reduction agenda is a real thing -

In 'real' life how do you talk about all this....? I've tried it out on a few people and it's not easy - you soon get to the point where you can sound like a raving paranoid nutcase :-) ..... and THAT'S just sticking to the 'Climate Warming' geoengineering angle..... best not to wander into the area of speculation about population control and dramatically announce that we are at war and 'they' are trying to kill most of us and destroy our culture and even the environment (make it sterile...like the people...?) - to keep the human population RIGHT down permanently......people who have no idea what's going on back right off thinking you're a crazy paranoid person - just on the geoengineering angle !!! you can see their face looking blank and then confused about what you are trying to share with them.......

People are down on 'The People's Voice Channel' but this video is of interest especially the interview with Kristen Meghan - a whistleblower - Former US Army environmental specialist... the part with her interview starts in section beginning just after 12 mins....


how accurate the bit about the arrest is I don't know yet.....but I believe that RFK Jr is looking into Chem Trails so..?

Trump's Chemtrails Task Force Makes First Major Geoengineering Arrest in U.S. (20:28)

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For decades, they told us we were crazy. They said those grid-like streaks in the sky were just condensation… nothing more than harmless trails left by passing jets.

But behind the ridicule, behind the denial, something sinister was taking shape, hidden in plain sight. Now, the walls are finally starting to crack.

The Chemtrails Task Force, a covert, cross-agency unit activated just weeks ago, has already sent shockwaves through the highest levels of power. Rogue agencies have been shut down. Financial networks frozen. And in a stunning turn of events… the Task Force has made its first arrests.

Ewan
29th April 2025, 11:45
Fingers crossed it is true.

:fingers crossed:

avid
29th April 2025, 12:33
Sun dimmed all day since sunrise, hundreds of chemtrails spread across the sky. North west England. Ghastly coughing due to fallout.

Bill Ryan
29th April 2025, 13:15
Sun dimmed all day since sunrise, hundreds of chemtrails spread across the sky. North west England. Ghastly coughing due to fallout.I literally can't find adequate words to comment on this. Criminally irresponsible, mind-numbingly stupid, yet more authoritarian destruction of everything that Britain ever had to love, value and protect.

And prevailing weather patterns will (of course!!! :facepalm:) blow all this eastwards to mainland Europe. Particles seeded in the sky don't just stay stationary as if they were magically anchored there. Are there no sane meteorologists advising the UK government about this??

meat suit
29th April 2025, 14:08
Maybe the power outage in Spain etc has something to do with this..
As best I know, the sprayed particles are conductive, so a combo of that and what Ben Davidson thinks has caused the outage might be at play.

Harald Kautz (sorry habent got a link) has explained that the particles are actually formed by a furnace blasting process using the planes turnines, which are fed with powder. The purpose is really military radar surveilance stuff, probably UFO related too..

norman
30th April 2025, 06:06
I've listened to Jim Lee talk about chemtrails etc several times. To my surprise, because this is a Jaco podcast, he excelled himself in this one.

After a brief self introduction he describes a very layered field of atmospheric manipulation. For example, he explains how even a "no spray day" can have a sky that is very artificial and reflecting a lot of light back into space. He explains a lot of things and manages to do it mostly without getting too nerdy for an average listener.

He claims NATO has the last word on what the chemical content of aviation fuel is.

This was uploaded a month ago and has nothing directly newsy to do with the recent news about a UK policy but it will make anyone who listens to this a lot 'smarter' about what's going around in the social media on this general topic.

Chemtrails, who's involved, what are they doing and why, is it harming us, can we stop them and how?

Jim Lee
https://climateviewer.com

https://rumble.com/v6rdxl2-chemtrails-whos-involved-what-are-they-doing-and-why-is-it-harming-us-can-w.html?start=400

v6p71c8/?pub=4&start=400

jaybee
30th April 2025, 08:11
Fingers crossed it is true.

:fingers crossed:


Yes let's hope it is..... I haven't had a proper look to check it out yet....

I had a thought about the reported arrest and Bobby Kennedy taking a look at the Chem Trail business... - and I wonder if this is what has prompted the British establishment/government to go public and get Parliamentary approval...... approval for something they have been doing in varying degrees anyway........?

To give legal protection to the individuals involved in it all.... from the instigators, planners to the pilots - in case a Kennedy like figure happens to pop up in the UK in the next few years................?

???

For the record...after what I said in my previous post when it was really getting to me... I'm calming down now :) - I'm still concerned about it all but not letting it affect my day to day equilibrium - obviously the content of what they are spreading around is of major concern for life on earth and the environment but now they have 'gone public' more people will become aware...

I also think that the Sun is winning this battle - the last 3 days have started with the planes laying their trails and the sky being messed up with them - the sky has still been a pale bluer than it should be as the day goes on - but the day has eventually been nice and sunny and the sky has dispersed most (a lot of) of the 'trails' - as I type now, through the window, I can see thick trails in direction of the ever rising sun and a plane laying out a fresh one - but I'm feeling ok because I can't let 'them' ruin my day...... (*shakes fist at the invisible foe*)

onward ever onward.... :)

avid
30th April 2025, 11:29
Same today in NW England as yesterday, heavy chemtrailing and blurry sky. However, absolutely no wind, even near the sea where there should be tidal breezes. Stifling for time of year, birds desperately thirsty so have upturned a plastic table and filled the structural pockets with fresh water for drinking and bathing. A very busy place atm! Even sounds not carrying. All very strange…. Neighbours line of washing totally static. Weird environmental manipulation.

Bill Ryan
30th April 2025, 12:34
A question for British members: what is Piers Corbyn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Corbyn#Party_politics) saying about this?

Ernie Nemeth
30th April 2025, 16:19
Gateway Pundit headline:
"RFK Jr. Names Government Agency Behind America's Geoengineering Nightmare"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/rfk-jr-names-government-agency-behind-americas-geoengineering/

avid
30th April 2025, 16:35
Nothing atm, but looking up to my sky, just a fog of chemtrails. No wind. No sound. An horrendous mess. Not natural at all..

jaybee
30th April 2025, 16:46
I've listened to Jim Lee talk about chemtrails etc several times. To my surprise, because this is a Jaco podcast, he excelled himself in this one.

After a brief self introduction he describes a very layered field of atmospheric manipulation. For example, he explains how even a "no spray day" can have a sky that is very artificial and reflecting a lot of light back into space. He explains a lot of things and manages to do it mostly without getting too nerdy for an average listener.

He claims NATO has the last word on what the chemical content of aviation fuel is.

This was uploaded a month ago and has nothing directly newsy to do with the recent news about a UK policy but it will make anyone who listens to this a lot 'smarter' about what's going around in the social media on this general topic.

Chemtrails, who's involved, what are they doing and why, is it harming us, can we stop them and how?

Jim Lee
https://climateviewer.com

https://rumble.com/v6rdxl2-chemtrails-whos-involved-what-are-they-doing-and-why-is-it-harming-us-can-w.html?start=400

v6p71c8/?pub=4&start=400


thanks


wow.... I'm stunned by the information in this video - going to watch it all again soon -

a short quote from Jim Lee.... who does a great job educating everyone on the subject.... and there's so much more to it than I could ever have imagined -

@1:09:19 - - - - "We're focusing on the needle in the haystack and ignoring the haystack..."

Did You See Them
30th April 2025, 20:23
UK being used for experimental milk additives with no choice unless your very discerning about what dairy it comes from - most supermarkets are NO GO for Arla free milk !

Now this in your face (if you listen to what's going on from alternative sources other than MSN ( btw - on the MSN - someone from some film wore a skimpy dress at some award ceremony).

I wonder how the government grants for solar panels are going ?
Are you doing your bit ?

Sign up here:

https://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/solar-panels/government-grants

Strat
30th April 2025, 22:54
Any UK gardeners in here? I'm curious how the plants are reacting to this.

bobme
1st May 2025, 01:47
I Do agree with this thread in a Factual way, but what I do not get is the " coming soon " thingy. They started this many years ago. When they first started spaying the sky.

That has been the plan all along. I see nothing new here.no offense meant.

norman
2nd May 2025, 13:03
Turns out the UK announcement is probably part of a game of 'Whack-a-Mole'. It's popped up because the same thing was shut down in America and Ba'al Gates isn't on Trump's favourites list so he's given up on doing it from America and somehow swung a deal with UK, bet ya.

Also (and more importantly) pay close attention to what David Keith said [in this clip] about geoengineering, in August 2013.

Reckless Climate Science Whack-A-Mole

https://rumble.com/v6sv26v-reckless-climate-science-whack-a-mole.html

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Ravenlocke
3rd May 2025, 23:25
I Do agree with this thread in a Factual way, but what I do not get is the " coming soon " thingy. They started this many years ago. When they first started spaying the sky.

That has been the plan all along. I see nothing new here.no offense meant.

Agreed! If I remember correctly it started in the 40’s I think after WW2.

And associated with the arial spraying/geoengineering I remember many years ago, reading about so many incident reports of Morgellon’s disease, and in Western Canada a high rise in MS disease. I don’t think those have stopped.

If they are spraying all the time without the public consent, without telling us what they spray what difference does it make to publicly declare it on the news now?
Just to get the funding?
Is it a Scare tactic?
What are they expecting to come out of this?

Ankle Biter
4th May 2025, 00:37
Sun dimmed all day since sunrise, hundreds of chemtrails spread across the sky. North west England. Ghastly coughing due to fallout.I literally can't find adequate words to comment on this. Criminally irresponsible, mind-numbingly stupid, yet more authoritarian destruction of everything that Britain ever had to love, value and protect.

And prevailing weather patterns will (of course!!! :facepalm:) blow all this eastwards to mainland Europe. Particles seeded in the sky don't just stay stationary as if they were magically anchored there. Are there no sane meteorologists advising the UK government about this??

Precisely what first came to mind for me when first seeing this story. It's an apparent exercise in futility, no dimming will be achieved and any particles released will dilute as they disperse. Surely this hasn't been overlooked by the 'scientists' behind this mission, I wouldn't assume so that was the case. So I'm left wondering then, what's the real objective?

... or is it simply that they're just that stupid and unhinged?

Tintin
4th May 2025, 12:17
I Do agree with this thread in a Factual way, but what I do not get is the " coming soon " thingy. They started this many years ago. When they first started spaying the sky.

Yes, this has all been going on for a very long time: I've tweaked the thread title a little reflecting that.


If I remember correctly it started in the 40’s I think after WW2

There have been weather modification patents of course going way back even as far as the 1920s. Over a hundred of them can be found here in the library (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=US_Patents_issued_1920-2003_relating_to_weather_modification_%28Geoengineering%29).

https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=US_Patents_issued_1920-2003_relating_to_weather_modification_%28Geoengineering%29

Mike
4th May 2025, 13:26
I Do agree with this thread in a Factual way, but what I do not get is the " coming soon " thingy. They started this many years ago. When they first started spaying the sky.

That has been the plan all along. I see nothing new here.no offense meant.

The 'coming soon' was included because that's the way it's being presented to the public. In my original post I mentioned that, like you and most here, I believe it's been happening for some time now.

What's new and different is that it's being acknowledged officially. The reason for that eludes me.

ExomatrixTV
4th May 2025, 14:48
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I respect Jim Lee (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=%22Jim%20Lee%22) WAY more than Dane Wigington (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Dane%20Wigington) for multiple reasons, and BOTH have flaws ... I had multiple direct contact with both in the past (late 2000s/early 2010s) ... and I noticed both do not want to listen to any form of clarifications/nuances ... I interviewed Jim and Dane for my "Untold Mysteries" Live Radio show separately, way back ... And was attacked by both side's FAN BASE! ... The difference between Jim & Dane ... is ... that Jim at least (as far as I am aware) does not block/censor/ignore etc. as Jim Lee thrives on having debates anytime, anywhere with anyone ... Both accuses each other on multiple fronts, and both fan bases make it worse to the extreme ... I tend to lean more on Jim's take when it comes to accuracy of his accusations, but not from his "followers" clan.

The biggest flaw of Dane Wigington being FULL ON with the Climate Scare Hysteria Agenda (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?96561-Climate-Change--AKA-Global-Warming--...-is-it-a-scam) ("Global Warming"/Climate Change "Crisis") of the left and uses way to many unchallenged NeoLib/Left MSM sources ad nauseam is WHY I can not stand him anymore, even so, I still respect PART of his long term efforts, but certainly not all of it. So I am used to hearing & seeing his "shadow side" many times and use my own "filter" to only seek THAT what I found useful for my own quest for the truth and the REST of his work I just "let it be" .... Why? ... Because I do not feel the need to be neutral life-long arbiter for them both >>> I COULD, I REALLY DO >>> But no, thank you! ... I studied (NATO) Chemtrails/GeoEngeneering since 1996 onward and have tons of knowledge from my "Asperger Brain Mind" I accumulated between 1996 and 2006 (20 years!) BEFORE Jim Lee started!

Cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳


youtube.com/@ChemTruthers/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@ChemTruthers/videos) (one of my channels)
Weaponising the Weather (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99671-Weaponising-the-Weather)

Ben
4th May 2025, 20:34
I'm a gardener, and the plants are all fine, apart from needing a good watering due to it being so unseasonally dry for the past couple of months.


As others have mentioned, there's no change on the chemtrails front - it's been going on most days for many years now. They definitely dim the sun though, due to the haze. The planes tend to spray around the area where the sun is, all day.


That being said, there's been more proper clear blue skies days in the last two months than I can remember seeing for at least the last 10 years. A neighbour told me it coincided with loads of people being fired from NOAA, which seems to be the big player in geoengineering.



I suspect the mini drought is engineered too, as the UK is full on with the agenda to eradicate natural food growing.






Nature has the final say though. Hopefully she won't have to be too severe in her cleansing of the situation.

Patient
5th May 2025, 05:00
People keep asking "Why would they do it in the fist place? They are doing it to themselves."

I understand that this is a far stretch for most people, but consider that this could be part of a bigger picture - a proxy war - where we (the human race) are in the middle. They are using the UK to come forward about it because people are learning the truth about chemtrails.They have to start somewhere to openly talk about it. By the time the world talks and talks about it, the bees could be gone, the trees falling apart, farm fields are poisoned and useless. ETC.

The spraying has been going on for a long time. It is used as a weather modification tool so that it makes sense to us to have the military doing it (an excuse). Yet it is global and could be used by every major power. It could be utilized for advancing communication and advance missile control - again to make sense to the people.

If there are warring extraterrestrials, this could be one side's effort to attack us (while the other side is trying to defend us).

Long term it is killing the plant life (the soil), mammals (including us) and the oceans. It causes wild fires to burn faster and hotter.

So when you think, "Who is doing this and why would they do it to themselves?" Well, perhaps we are not doing it to ourselves. Someone else might be doing it to us.

Sure, perhaps it is a stretch, a woo woo theory. (i dislike the term woo woo. To me it is the new term to upgrade conspiracy theory.)

norman
19th May 2025, 21:51
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Stop World Control - 7 months ago


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John Hilton
2nd June 2025, 19:17
Coffee & Covid:

"Good morning, C&C, it’s Wednesday! In today’s astonishing roundup: despite lying media’s best efforts to cover for it, for some reason, weather modification shenanigans are finally getting their pants pulled down; EPA chief strikes at the heart of chemtrail denialism; Florida surgeon general piles on with diatribe about sneaky weather modifiers."
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/forked-redux-wednesday-april-16-2025

Here on Crete, I haven't seen a streak in the sky for over a week. A temporary lull in the poisoning? Maybe my daily phlegm will go away.

Thu, Jul 17, 2025. Still no streaks in the sky but a brown mist out at sea and now over the mountains as well.

jaybee
3rd September 2025, 08:49
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This is the Big One isn't it....the one that cannot be avoided

for example...

Contaminated tap water....(ie fluoride etc being added..)....you can buy spring water and hope for the best that that isn't deliberately tampered with...

Contaminated food with harmful additives or lack of nutrition - you can try and stick to a few safer options -

Radiowave etc pollution from Smart Phone masts etc and Smart Meters and Wifi.... you can try and minimize the exposure... but this is another Big One that is hard to avoid.... remember the days when lots of moths would fly into a room at night attracted to the light coming from electric bulbs....not any more - or driving there would be lots of insects hit and stuck on the windscreen...not any more...

But when the very air we breath and the environmental system that supports all life on earth (as we know it)....is deliberately made harmful for reasons of depopulation ....we are in trouble - deep trouble...

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and so it is with 'chem trails' and the 'dimming the sun' attacks...deep trouble that cannot be avoided... it drives me nuts to see the (probably unmanned) planes criss crossing around and filling the sky with God only knows what - that will fall to earth - it's like F**k You graffiti covering the sky, out of reach...

I believe RFK Jr is trying to tackle the problem in America and there are objections in the UK....but it's still going on - part of the covert culling....


following extract from - Chemtrails Task Force: Bill Gates’ Sun Dimming Experiment is Reducing Lifespans By 20 Years (https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/chemtrails-task-force-bill-gates-sun-dimming-experiment-is-reducing-lifespans-by-20-years/)


Dimming the sun itself should be the breaking point — the final straw. Are we truly going to sit back and allow a tiny elite to shut down the source of all life on Earth?

All of it built on a lie, a lie that crumbles the moment you look at the actual evidence.

Imagine a world stripped of its breath — no crops, no trees, no life-giving air. That’s not a distant dystopia. That’s Bill Gates’ dream, and the road we’re on right now, as carbon dioxide is being deliberately sucked out of the atmosphere.

The Chemtrails Task Force has uncovered the horrifying details of Bill Gates’ plan to engineer this collapse, using sun-dimming aerosols and atmospheric manipulation to choke nature itself.

This isn’t about cooling the planet. This is about control. And if it isn’t stopped, the Earth will be left gasping — and so will we.

They want you to believe this sun-dimming scheme is some brand-new, cutting-edge response to climate change — a bold experiment born of urgent necessity. But that’s just the cover story. The truth? This plan has been on the table for decades, rooted in the twisted ideology of the elite and their occult obsession with controlling nature itself.

:mmph:

Mari
3rd September 2025, 10:46
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This is the Big One isn't it....the one that cannot be avoided

for example...

Contaminated tap water....(ie fluoride etc being added..)....you can buy spring water and hope for the best that that isn't deliberately tampered with...

Contaminated food with harmful additives or lack of nutrition - you can try and stick to a few safer options -

Radiowave etc pollution from Smart Phone masts etc and Smart Meters and Wifi.... you can try and minimize the exposure... but this is another Big One that is hard to avoid.... remember the days when lots of moths would fly into a room at night attracted to the light coming from electric bulbs....not any more - or driving there would be lots of insects hit and stuck on the windscreen...not any more...

But when the very air we breath and the environmental system that supports all life on earth (as we know it)....is deliberately made harmful for reasons of depopulation ....we are in trouble - deep trouble...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

and so it is with 'chem trails' and the 'dimming the sun' attacks...deep trouble that cannot be avoided... it drives me nuts to see the (probably unmanned) planes criss crossing around and filling the sky with God only knows what - that will fall to earth - it's like F**k You graffiti covering the sky, out of reach...

I believe RFK Jr is trying to tackle the problem in America and there are objections in the UK....but it's still going on - part of the covert culling....


following extract from - Chemtrails Task Force: Bill Gates’ Sun Dimming Experiment is Reducing Lifespans By 20 Years (https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/chemtrails-task-force-bill-gates-sun-dimming-experiment-is-reducing-lifespans-by-20-years/)


Dimming the sun itself should be the breaking point — the final straw. Are we truly going to sit back and allow a tiny elite to shut down the source of all life on Earth?

All of it built on a lie, a lie that crumbles the moment you look at the actual evidence.

Imagine a world stripped of its breath — no crops, no trees, no life-giving air. That’s not a distant dystopia. That’s Bill Gates’ dream, and the road we’re on right now, as carbon dioxide is being deliberately sucked out of the atmosphere.

The Chemtrails Task Force has uncovered the horrifying details of Bill Gates’ plan to engineer this collapse, using sun-dimming aerosols and atmospheric manipulation to choke nature itself.

This isn’t about cooling the planet. This is about control. And if it isn’t stopped, the Earth will be left gasping — and so will we.

They want you to believe this sun-dimming scheme is some brand-new, cutting-edge response to climate change — a bold experiment born of urgent necessity. But that’s just the cover story. The truth? This plan has been on the table for decades, rooted in the twisted ideology of the elite and their occult obsession with controlling nature itself.

:mmph:

On the face of it, its pretty terrifying and we're all doomed....if you choose to see it that way. In my heart I know that 'they' wont get away with this - they're not getting away with it. There are 'forces' -indigenous and off-world who have been watching our backs and imv, largely negating the effects, which by now, were supposed to be much more obvious than they already are.
Sure - some damage has to be seen to be done to Earth and humankind, for us to wake up, so yes, the elites are getting away with only so much, for the moment.

Even as a child, I knew that Earth wasn't ours to mess with and I feel that even stronger now - NO nuclear wars and vast man-made global terrain damage is ever going to be 'allowed' - save what Nature herself chooses to do in her periodic 'Cleansing' exercises and we all know what they are and have been.

Earth/Gaia is a living entity in her own right and she is allowing this abuse to go only so far, to give us the chance of waking up to the Darkness. I'm quite optimistic we will, in time, but if not, then maybe she'll do what some creatures do when the parasites infesting them become just too much and head for the water or some lovely deep mud to wallow in...:ohwell: Implementing her own Great Reset.

jaybee
3rd September 2025, 12:18
On the face of it, its pretty terrifying and we're all doomed....if you choose to see it that way. In my heart I know that 'they' wont get away with this - they're not getting away with it. There are 'forces' -indigenous and off-world who have been watching our backs and imv, largely negating the effects, which by now, were supposed to be much more obvious than they already are.
Sure - some damage has to be seen to be done to Earth and humankind, for us to wake up, so yes, the elites are getting away with only so much, for the moment.

Even as a child, I knew that Earth wasn't ours to mess with and I feel that even stronger now - NO nuclear wars and vast man-made global terrain damage is ever going to be 'allowed' - save what Nature herself chooses to do in her periodic 'Cleansing' exercises and we all know what they are and have been.

Earth/Gaia is a living entity in her own right and she is allowing this abuse to go only so far, to give us the chance of waking up to the Darkness. I'm quite optimistic we will, in time, but if not, then maybe she'll do what some creatures do when the parasites infesting them become just too much and head for the water or some lovely deep mud to wallow in...:ohwell: Implementing her own Great Reset.


well said Mari..... I haven't given in and I haven't given up hope for the future - in fact the more they try to kill me (us) the more determined I am to carry on - it almost feels like a duty to dodge all the bullets and the 'slings and arrows of outrageous fortune ...' and survive it all.... (even though I'm a believer in reincarnation...)

thanks for your thoughts on the matter... :thumbsup:

Mari
3rd September 2025, 18:59
On the face of it, its pretty terrifying and we're all doomed....if you choose to see it that way. In my heart I know that 'they' wont get away with this - they're not getting away with it. There are 'forces' -indigenous and off-world who have been watching our backs and imv, largely negating the effects, which by now, were supposed to be much more obvious than they already are.
Sure - some damage has to be seen to be done to Earth and humankind, for us to wake up, so yes, the elites are getting away with only so much, for the moment.

Even as a child, I knew that Earth wasn't ours to mess with and I feel that even stronger now - NO nuclear wars and vast man-made global terrain damage is ever going to be 'allowed' - save what Nature herself chooses to do in her periodic 'Cleansing' exercises and we all know what they are and have been.

Earth/Gaia is a living entity in her own right and she is allowing this abuse to go only so far, to give us the chance of waking up to the Darkness. I'm quite optimistic we will, in time, but if not, then maybe she'll do what some creatures do when the parasites infesting them become just too much and head for the water or some lovely deep mud to wallow in...:ohwell: Implementing her own Great Reset.


well said Mari..... I haven't given in and I haven't given up hope for the future - in fact the more they try to kill me (us) the more determined I am to carry on - it almost feels like a duty to dodge all the bullets and the 'slings and arrows of outrageous fortune ...' and survive it all.... (even though I'm a believer in reincarnation...)

thanks for your thoughts on the matter... :thumbsup:

Its what we came here for, Jaybee, to dodge those slings and arrows....and launch a few catapults of our own while we're at it

grapevine
19th October 2025, 14:26
Doctor Reveals The Most Overlooked Medicine on Earth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ksPzKMJgXs&t=5s
You don’t need to spend a fortune on infrared devices to get plenty of infrared light. Check out this fascinating interview from Dr Eric Berg with Dr. Roger Seheult, an expert on sunlight and vitamin D, as we discuss the powerful health benefits of sunlight


0:00 Welcome, Dr. Roger Seheult
4:05 The abscopal effect of light
4:58 What does light do in the body?
10:24 Infrared light and nature
12:06 The Green Heart study
13:45 Infrared light and sleep
21:24 Indoor lighting and your health

Please join me in welcoming Dr. Roger Shelly, quadruple board-certified in internal medicine, pulmonary diseases, critical care medicine, and sleep medicine.

Dr. Seheult shares some fascinating new research about the ability of sunlight to penetrate the human body. It’s been previously thought that the sun could only penetrate a few centimeters into our bodies, but recent research has shown that it can penetrate the entire body and can even be measured on the other side.

Surprisingly, randomized, placebo-controlled studies have shown that light can affect parts of the body that were not exposed to sunlight. This phenomenon is known as the abscopal effect. This means that mitochondria from one part of the body can communicate with each other and upregulate, even if they are not directly exposed to light.

Infrared light can stimulate the mitochondria to produce more melatonin, which can reduce oxidative stress. It’s not significantly affected by the atmosphere, so you can get it almost any time of the day. UVB light, which you need to make vitamin D, is more abundant when the sun is at its highest.

Green trees, leaves, and grass reflect infrared light. To maximize infrared light absorption, head to green spaces where nature can reflect infrared light back to you!

The Green Heart Study measured the HSCRP, which correlates with the risk of stroke or heart attack, in residents of South Louisville, Kentucky —a region characterized by concrete and a lack of greenery. Approximately 8,000 trees were planted in a 4-square-mile area, and the HSCRP was remeasured. This resulted in a 13% to 20% average drop in HSCRP, which correlates to a 10% to 15% reduction in stroke and heart attack risk, without any changes in diet or exercise.

Dr. Seheult also explains that daytime light exposure helps with sleep by supporting the circadian rhythm, while nighttime light exposure can have an opposite effect.

Reaching for the Vitamind D3 supplements. Actually I'm using Better You F3/L2which is a spray and thought to have better absorption as it misses the digestive system.

Mari
20th October 2025, 12:03
Doctor Reveals The Most Overlooked Medicine on Earth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ksPzKMJgXs&t=5s
You don’t need to spend a fortune on infrared devices to get plenty of infrared light. Check out this fascinating interview from Dr Eric Berg with Dr. Roger Seheult, an expert on sunlight and vitamin D, as we discuss the powerful health benefits of sunlight


0:00 Welcome, Dr. Roger Seheult
4:05 The abscopal effect of light
4:58 What does light do in the body?
10:24 Infrared light and nature
12:06 The Green Heart study
13:45 Infrared light and sleep
21:24 Indoor lighting and your health

Please join me in welcoming Dr. Roger Shelly, quadruple board-certified in internal medicine, pulmonary diseases, critical care medicine, and sleep medicine.

Dr. Seheult shares some fascinating new research about the ability of sunlight to penetrate the human body. It’s been previously thought that the sun could only penetrate a few centimeters into our bodies, but recent research has shown that it can penetrate the entire body and can even be measured on the other side.

Surprisingly, randomized, placebo-controlled studies have shown that light can affect parts of the body that were not exposed to sunlight. This phenomenon is known as the abscopal effect. This means that mitochondria from one part of the body can communicate with each other and upregulate, even if they are not directly exposed to light.

Infrared light can stimulate the mitochondria to produce more melatonin, which can reduce oxidative stress. It’s not significantly affected by the atmosphere, so you can get it almost any time of the day. UVB light, which you need to make vitamin D, is more abundant when the sun is at its highest.

Green trees, leaves, and grass reflect infrared light. To maximize infrared light absorption, head to green spaces where nature can reflect infrared light back to you!

The Green Heart Study measured the HSCRP, which correlates with the risk of stroke or heart attack, in residents of South Louisville, Kentucky —a region characterized by concrete and a lack of greenery. Approximately 8,000 trees were planted in a 4-square-mile area, and the HSCRP was remeasured. This resulted in a 13% to 20% average drop in HSCRP, which correlates to a 10% to 15% reduction in stroke and heart attack risk, without any changes in diet or exercise.

Dr. Seheult also explains that daytime light exposure helps with sleep by supporting the circadian rhythm, while nighttime light exposure can have an opposite effect.

Reaching for the Vitamind D3 supplements. Actually I'm using Better You F3/L2which is a spray and thought to have better absorption as it misses the digestive system.


I'll try not to go too far off topic here, but you don't need to wonder why the benefits of Sunshine are rarely discussed on mainstream media, but its a no-brainer when you realise that the elites need to keep us ignorant of that which would keep us healthy...if it doesn't generated a profit for big pharma.

I found it ironic that during the first 'covid' Lockdown in the UK in March, when, from day one of this 'mandate', the sun :sun: came out, stayed out and we had uninterrupted blue skies for many many, weeks thereafter, that our Govt only allowed us one hour of 'exercise', for 'essential' trips only. Not one single mention of the health benefits of Vitamin D or of sun exposure was mentioned at all, on the fear-driven media (and, it was that, and that fact alone that was the trigger to wake me and my family up to the Lie that the 'pandemic' truly was)

Aside to this, I stopped using sunscreen for myself or my children many years ago when data began to come out about its carcinogenic properties, then suppressed. The sudden rise of skin 'cancers' were blamed on sun exposure, so they upped the 'factor' of the product and taught us to be afraid of the Sun. You'd be hard pressed to find unbiased research during online searches for the cancer causing properties of sunscreen, as all the major institutes have demonized this information, although some 'research' does allow that Benzene, an ingredient in sunscreen is a carcinogen.

And surprise...the body cannot make Vit D3 effectively (or at all) when the skin is lathered with sunscreen. Go figure! I'm pretty sure this is well known by the manufacturers.

There's no way they will allow the true toxicity of sunscreen to see the light of day because of the uproar and millions of lawsuits that will occur from damaged individuals. So our dear old Sun continues to get the blame

There is a reason why we get sunburn - its nature's way of telling us our skin has had its share of sun and we need to cover up before damage is done, but the damage is not of 'cancer' but simple burning of our skin. world of

Finally - from a spiritual pov, I've always felt that the Creator, the entity who made this marvellous pristine world of ours would not include a star which - along with its many life-giving properties, would also give us 'skin cancer'. :nono::