China and the Moon [Archive] - The Project Avalon Community Forum

Vicus

19th May 2025, 10:51

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY9dnrbQano

What China Found on The Moon : very important NEW minerals...

Vicus

19th May 2025, 10:56

Russia and China To Build a Power Plant on the Moon May 17, 2025

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Bolivia, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Egypt, Ethiopia, and South Africa will also participate in this international space project.

On Thursday, the Russian State Corporation for Space Activities (Roscosmos) and the China National Space Administration (CNSA) signed a memorandum for the construction of a power plant on the Moon.

“The Russian power plant will become an important contribution to the International Scientific Station on the Moon project, which is planned to be established by 2036,” the Russian space agency stated.

This memorandum is part of the package of documents signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping, following a meeting held during the Chinese leader’s visit to Moscow, where he will participate in the celebrations for the 80th anniversary of the Red Army’s victory over Nazi Germany.

At the future lunar station, scientists from Russia, China, and other countries will conduct research and test innovative space technologies. In April, Roscosmos Director Dmitry Bakanov informed that 13 countries have confirmed their interest in participating in this international space project. Among them are Bolivia, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Egypt, Ethiopia and South Africa.

“The moon experiences two-week-long nights – meaning there’s two weeks of continuous sunlight followed by two weeks of continuous darkness. The nuclear power plant will be essential for providing reliable energy during the Moon’s two-week-long nights,” explained Matt McCall in an article published in Centurion.

“The collaboration between China and Russia signifies a strategic move to establish a foothold in lunar exploration and utilization. By combining their expertise, the two nations plan to construct the ILRS at the Moon’s south pole, a region that’s rich in water-based ice and other valuable resources,” he added.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/russia-and-china-to-build-a-power-plant-on-the-moon/

Bill Ryan

19th May 2025, 12:34

Bill Ryan

19th May 2025, 12:56

Vicus

19th May 2025, 13:04

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weNPd3mmIl0

Vicus

19th May 2025, 13:08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWZTUiP6XiQ

Orph

19th May 2025, 15:32

It's 2035 and the USA has just made its first manned lunar landing since the '60s. The astronauts are out and about doing a quick survey of the lunar landscape around the local area. One of them notices something odd off in the distance. It appears to have a bit of a shine to it, but also a bit weathered. He ambles over to have a closer look. He sees a small rectangular metal object anchored into the lunar surface. He leans over to brush off some of the dirt and dust and he sees the words:

Made in China

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Ravenlocke

19th May 2025, 17:32

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China is planning an exciting step toward building a base on the moon by 3D-printing bricks from lunar soil.
The mission, part of China's Chang'e 8 spacecraft, is set to launch in 2028. It's designed to pave the way for the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS) and could revolutionize how we explore and potentially live on the moon.
Instead of sending materials from Earth, which is extremely costly, China aims to use lunar resources, a process known as in-situ resource utilization.

https://x.com/thinking_panda/status/1923688630717198534

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Researchers have developed a "Lunar Soil Brick Machine" for building on the moon. It uses lunar soil in-situ 3D printing system with fiber guided solar powered melting. Chang'e 8 may use this technology as one of its missions. Full HD:https://youtu.be/QhngNrQ80ag

https://x.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1914968515909480782

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Ravenlocke

19th May 2025, 17:46

From the Chinese ambassador to the UK,
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Congratulations to Professor Mahesh Anand of the UK
@OpenUniversity
! You are the only scientist in UK who has been loaned the extremely rare material, the #MOON dust from China. Science can only make progress through international exchanges and collaboration. Look forward to more collaboration between #China and the #UK!

https://x.com/AmbZhengZeguang/status/1920973611784900665

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Ravenlocke

19th May 2025, 17:56

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China is preparing to build its base on the moon. 🇨🇳🌖🏠

"Lunar soil bricks" are the future material that could be used to build houses on the moon. They are made by Chinese researchers simulating the composition of lunar soil.

The "lunar soil bricks" will be sent to China's space station aboard the Tianzhou-8 cargo spacecraft to test their mechanical and thermal properties, as well as their resistance to cosmic radiation. The first "lunar soil brick" is expected to return to Earth by the end of 2025.

These "lunar soil bricks" have a compressive strength of over 3 times that of ordinary red bricks and concrete bricks. This means an area of just 1 square centimeter can withstand a weight of over 10 tons.

https://x.com/XH_Lee23/status/1847950789924548738

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Simulated moon soil bricks, stronger than concrete, may be used for moon houses and soon will be tested in space exposure experiments in Tiangong Space Station (CSS) delivered by Tianzhou-8 cargo spacecraft. Full HD:https://youtu.be/MD3XHM3u9zI

https://x.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1830507907730833480

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Chinese scientists have unveiled the prototype of a device capable of melting lunar soil at temperatures of over 1,300℃ to produce "lunar soil bricks" of any shape through in-situ 3D printing, expected to provide vital support during the Chang'e-8 mission around 2028, as part of the country's plan to build an international research station on the moon.

https://x.com/ChinaScience/status/1914602575980322833

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leavesoftrees

20th May 2025, 11:30

Bill Ryan

21st May 2025, 11:55

Johnnycomelately

22nd May 2025, 10:05

Thanks for the new thread! :thumbsup:

Of interest, possibly, is part of this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-&p=1643336&viewfull=1#post1643336) of mine on the More predictions (maybe) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-) thread.
China will land men on the moon. I think (but feel I do not know for sure) that they will do this before the US. My personal guess about this is that serious problems with cost for the US will lead them to delay or cancel their own current moon program.
As a follow-up comment, this does appear more and more likely. The timescale for a Chinese manned moon landing seems to be sometime round about 2028-29. And sure enough, here we go. :)

China's Plan for a CREWED Lunar Landing in 2029

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-KrMfIkDdg

Thanks for this, Bill. The vid is well done, I enjoyed it and was able to learn a lot. I also scanned the channel, Dongfang Hour.

The chan is mysterious to me. All the vids are about Chinese space flight, and all the thumbnails are cheap artificial graphics. From your vid, I expect that all their vids are similarly artificial, and have not looked further.

“Dongfang” can mean east, or oriental, but another search gave “square; quadrilateral; place; region; direction; side; method; way; prescription; power;
upright; just”.

If I look at this with one eye covered, I see a brother of the darkness that trades in bother (propaganda).

Irminsül

22nd May 2025, 10:26

Here I’m sharing what I know about this place, along with images that support what is being presented.

For decades, numerous unofficial sources—including whistleblowers, insiders connected to secret programs, and independent ufologists—have claimed that the Moon is not merely a barren natural satellite, but rather a strategic outpost used by various extraterrestrial races, and even by human factions operating beyond public knowledge. According to these testimonies, there are underground bases, concealed structures on the far side of the Moon, and active non-human technology in operation. It’s also suggested that Earth is under constant surveillance and influence from the Moon, which itself may be an artificial or at least heavily modified structure.
Key informants include figures like Corey Goode, William Tompkins, Randy Cramer, and British hacker Gary McKinnon, who have disclosed the existence of installations such as the Lunar Operations Command (LOC). This base is allegedly managed by a coalition between secret Earth-based military groups and extraterrestrial beings. These operations, they say, have been active since at least the 1950s, with personnel recruited through programs like Operation Paperclip. Additionally, it is said that certain regions—especially the Moon’s far side—are off-limits to public space missions, which would explain the lack of transparent exploration there.
Independent researchers such as Richard Hoagland, a former NASA consultant, have analyzed lunar images that appear to show artificial structures—images which, he claims, were later censored or altered by NASA. It’s even been suggested that Apollo 11 encountered alien structures or craft on the Moon, a discovery Neil Armstrong was allegedly forbidden from discussing publicly. Others, like José Escamilla, have circulated images showing what appear to be towers, artificial shadows, and geometric formations inconsistent with natural geology.
On top of that, multiple anomalies have been observed in official NASA photos, including obviously blurred or edited regions. One of the most famous incidents involves a supposed censored audio recording from the Apollo 11 mission, in which Armstrong is heard saying, “There are other spacecraft here. They are watching us”—a line allegedly intercepted and leaked by civilian radio operators. Skeptics have also pointed to the lack of blast craters beneath the lunar modules as further evidence that something about the official narrative doesn’t add up.
As for the extraterrestrial races believed to be involved, insiders and ufologists most commonly refer to four main types. The Greys are said to maintain logistical and experimental bases on the Moon, particularly connected to human abduction and genetic manipulation programs. The Reptilians or Dracos are described as a hierarchical, militarized species that allegedly occupy ancient underground structures and exert indirect control over human covert operations. The Nordic or Pleiadian beings are portrayed as more benevolent observers with only a temporary presence on the Moon. Some theories also mention the existence of ancient non-biological entities or artificial intelligences that may be managing advanced lunar technologies.
The Moon’s functions are thought to be multi-layered. Its synchronous rotation—always showing the same face to Earth—makes it an ideal surveillance platform. From there, various operations could be coordinated, including energetic manipulation, genetic monitoring, and societal control. The Moon may also serve as a laboratory for studying human DNA, zero-gravity biology, free energy, and other advanced sciences. According to more esoteric theories, the Moon functions as a dimensional gateway, or even as a consciousness-modulating device that subtly influences human perception.
One of the more radical hypotheses is that the Moon is not a natural object at all, but a hollowed-out spacecraft placed into orbit. This idea was supported in the 1960s by Soviet scientists Michael Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov. They noted that when Apollo mission modules were deliberately crashed into the lunar surface, the Moon rang like a bell for over an hour—implying a hollow or resonant internal structure. Its density doesn’t align with what would be expected from a natural formation, and its size and precise orbital distance allow for perfect total eclipses, which some interpret as evidence of intelligent design.
On the geopolitical front, major powers like the United States, China, and Russia are accelerating their lunar missions, likely for reasons beyond scientific curiosity or resource extraction. China, for instance, has sent rovers to the far side of the Moon—precisely where many believe the hidden structures are located. The recent establishment of the U.S. Space Force and Space Command suggests that control over the Moon is becoming a top strategic priority. Far from being a lifeless rock, the Moon may in fact be one of the most active, contested, and surveilled locations in our entire solar system

"Black Moon: The Reich's Legacy"
In the final, desperate days of the Third Reich, as Berlin crumbled under Allied bombardment, a secret faction of SS officers and elite Nazi scientists enacted Operation Morgenstern — Morning Star — a last-resort plan that defied imagination: escape to space.
Using experimental propulsion — including the legendary anti-gravity device known as Die Glocke (“The Bell”) — and ancient occult knowledge preserved by the Ahnenerbe, these engineers had spent years developing spacecraft in hidden underground facilities in Bavaria, the Austrian Alps, and the icy void of Neuschwabenland in Antarctica.
Then, in May 1945, when all seemed lost, they launched. Several craft vanished from the Earth’s radar — not to Argentina, as many thought, but far beyond. To the Moon.
The Schwarzschild Base
On the dark side of the Moon — forever hidden from Earth's gaze — the Nazis founded Base 211-B, codenamed Schwarzschild. There, deep in lunar tunnels beneath a massive crater, they built a new society. Generation after generation, isolated from Earth, continued their mission: to refine Nazi ideology into something more... transcendent.
They developed cold fusion, quantum drives, and cybernetic AI modeled after an ancient “Aryan machine intelligence” they believed predated humanity itself. By the 1960s, they were more advanced than any nation on Earth.
The Great Cover-Up
In 1958, the CIA’s Corona satellite program picked up strange thermal signatures on the Moon’s far side. Alarmed, the U.S. quietly contacted top scientists at NASA and convened a classified meeting with the United Nations Security Council. What they found shocked them:
Massive structures.
Controlled radiation fields.
Complex electromagnetic signals.
They enacted the Lunar Vienna Protocol in 1961 — a secret international agreement to suppress all evidence of the Nazi lunar base. Apollo 11? It wasn't the first manned mission — just the first public one. Real contact had already occurred… under deep secrecy.
Every lunar mission since then — even modern probes like China's Chang’e or private efforts like SpaceX — is monitored. Any approach to the Moon’s far side is redirected or data is “scrubbed.”
And Now...
In 2025, leaked intelligence suggests that the "Children of the Reich" are ready to return. With tech decades ahead of Earth's — including quantum gravity engines, sentient AI, and zero-point energy — they plan not to invade, but to offer salvation: solutions to climate change, energy, and even disease... at the price of total submission.
Some within the CIA, NASA, and the UN oppose this. Whistleblowers have tried to speak out. Some have vanished. Others are watching the skies.
The Black Moon rises.

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Vicus

22nd May 2025, 13:21

Irminsül

22nd May 2025, 22:05

The Jewish people are the cancer of humanity, and the only ones who in 4,000 years dared to confront them were the Nazis. and to believe that the winning side (the Anglo Zionists), who have been told their version of history through ideological propaganda, the entertainment industry and sustained lies (such as the number of dead Jews which was luckily 600,000 instead of 6,000,000; is from someone totally asleep, narrow-minded and just another sheep of the flock who does not see that the Jews are the ones who devour humanity (literally in the synagogue of Satan and in ritual sacrifices of children to Baal, Moloch and the spawn of the underworld that these nefarious beings (Talmudist Jews) kill and devour in ritual sacrifices that they make to Satan: their god. Do I need to quote all the filth that the Talmud says about the rest of humanity? Did you know that according to them Jesus is eternally drowning in a cauldron of boiling semen? What a Can you rape the goyim's wife? Do you want me to quote the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Do you think what the Jews did to the Palestinian people is right? Do you think what the Rothschild family is doing to the planet is right? Do you think Soros is carrying out the Kalergi Plan against humanity?

Irminsül

22nd May 2025, 22:40

To explain myself better: I don't believe that ALL Jews are a cancer for humanity, far from it. Many of them probably haven't even read the Torah, much less the Talmud or anything else it says. I'm referring to the Judeo-Masonic-Reptilian-Satanic group, the cancer of humanity. The great families that hold the power and consider humanity to be their slaves and serve them, and who want to found a new world order.

Jaak

22nd May 2025, 23:10

Thanks Irminsül for the summary...

99,99% is all already know and disperse everywhere in this forum from day 1...

Now, the "news" are that "The Children of the Reich" will come now as SAVIORS of planet Earth...

History tell us that Nazism is a Death cult...metatheses like the cancer it is all over the world ... we can see today their effect in Ukraine and all their supporters...

There is no such thing as a"good Nazi"

What made nazis a death cult ? Give me some examples .
Bolsheviks killed tens of millions before nazis even existed . Was that also a death cult ? Who funded and founded it ?

During the time of the first Trotskyist collectivisation policy, between 1929 and 1932, not only human beings were destroyed but also 17.7 million horses, 29.8 million cattle (of which 10 million milk cows), 14.4 million pigs and 93.9 million sheep and goats. There were 19.6 million horses, just 40.7 million cattle, 11 million pigs and 32.1 million goats left in 1932. A total of 159.4 million farm animals vanished between 1929 and 1934.

How did the German ¨death cult ¨ treat animals ?

On August 28, 1933, at seven o'clock in the evening, the German people gathered around their radio receivers.

Six months of National Socialist rule had shown the entire nation the manners of the new leadership.

It had become clear to the people that the new leadership stood by its words and principles, and important speeches were carefully monitored.

It was known that today, the Minister of the Prussian Territories, Hermann Göring, would give his state policy speech to the people.

There was one overarching idea in the speech delivered by the Minister's radio voice.

The decree banning vivisection, passed two weeks ago.
Vivisection meant animal experiments, specifically painful surgeries performed without anesthesia or anesthesia, live dissection.

The Minister justified his decree by referring to the unique historical brotherhood of the German race with animals.

He emphasized how the ancient Aryan race has shared its home, fields, difficult battles, victories and defeats with animals for thousands of years.
Always together, as befits partners-brothers in arms.

At the end of the speech, Göring made it clear what awaited violators of the regulation.
Those people who in the future intend to treat animals as inanimate objects must be immediately isolated in concentration camps, among their own perverted brutes, away from animals.

Göring's harsh political initiative was not an extraordinary message.

This vision was not political rhetoric, but the cemented essence of National Socialism, the idea of the unity of the Aryan race and nature.

Thus, immediately after coming to power in Germany, the new National Socialist government established the strictest nature and animal protection laws in history.

Comprehensive nature reserves were established throughout the country to protect endangered animal species and natural communities.

When World War II began, at its initial stage, the German high command planned the establishment of extensive nature reserves in the conquered territories of Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine.

It was decided to cover large areas of the territory of these countries with planted forests, while the Slavic population would be deported beyond the Urals and into the steppe zone.

The new National Socialist United States of Europe needed "green lungs" for its existence.

Thus, the SS special-purpose sapper division planted forests throughout Belarus during the entire period of its presence in the Third Reich's sphere of influence! Thousands of hectares of forest culture! And this during the harshest wartime!

It is interesting to note that the Third Reich was the first in the world to declare the wolf a protected species, a fact that was incomprehensible and strange according to the prevailing mindset everywhere else at that time.

Even the treatment of fish, shellfish, crabs, and lobsters was regulated with great precision by the new law.

The implementation of the newly introduced regulations was closely monitored, and of all the authorities in Germany, the National Socialist Party had the largest number of veterinarians.

The German Animal Protection Act (Tierschutzgesetz), which came into force at the end of 1933, was the first in world history to define animal rights as such (um ihrer selbst wille), independent of human needs/wishes and feelings.

It was also the first law to eliminate the distinction between domestic and wild animals.

Literally, the law defined as the subject of the law ... "all living creatures in nature that are considered animals in common language and in natural science.

In the criminal law sense, there is no difference between domestic animals and other animals, higher or lower, or useful or harmful to humans".

Today, the wording is slightly different, but the animal protection laws of all developed countries are based on these principles.

The highest echelons of National Socialist Germany, such as Hitler and Himmler, were vegetarians and "conservatives" due to their ideological foundation. Of course, it was whispered in the top leadership that sometimes, in moments of weakness, Hitler had given in to childhood memories, swallowed and sadly recalled the delicacies of the Austrian Alps - thin lamb and garlic smoked sausages and heavily salted high-altitude ham dried on the log of a mountain hut...

In any case, the plans of the Third Reich leadership were to gradually introduce vegetarianism throughout the future Aryan Europe.

Heinrich Himmler stood for this idea with particular zeal.

Numerous experiments were carried out in the apparatus under his command, all of which were supposed to prove the extreme harmfulness of meat-eating.

The all-powerful leader of the SS was most hostile to culinary delicacies that used raw, uncooked meat.

...The consumption of bloody meat destroys the spirituality and pure independent intelligence of man... the Reichsführer often repeated,
...We have conducted relevant studies in our SS medical institutes, which clearly show the destructive consequences of the consumption of bloody meat for human intelligence and judgment!...

The one who, of course, blew the whistle on the antics of the Third Reich's top leadership was Hermann Göring, later Marshal of the German Luftwaffe. He had nothing against animal protection, but sausage, ham and Göring's favorite, the famous Freiburg roulade, he was never ready to give up for the sake of any ideology, despite his great weight and developing diabetes...

The animal rights part of Nazi ideology was based on a solid ideological heritage.
Already in the 1800s, during the development of the Romantic world of thought in the German cultural space, works were created in which the underlying idea was the mystical connection of the ancient Germans with nature and the animal kingdom.
Similar ideas also permeated the works of the composer Richard Wagner.
The vegetarianism and animal protection ideas that can be seen in his work are imbued with obvious anti-Semitism.
Wagner considered the cruel treatment of animals and meat-eating customs originating from the Jews to be a factor that had corrupted the pure German race throughout history. He equated animal experiments with the kosher ritual slaughter of animals in Jewish holidays and the sacred rites of ritual bloodletting from live animals.
The National Socialists took over these thoughts and visions that were the reason for direct actions against vivisection laboratories and their workers directly from him.
Even anti-Semitic policies were partly justified by animal protection: Jews are "animal oppressors" and all attacks against them are justified by the moral demands of Western culture.
Such ideological background makes it difficult to understand the progressive ideas of National Socialists today.

When the Third Reich disappeared from the world map, all Nazi animal and nature conservation laws also disappeared.
The wolf was killed to the last, nature reserves were cut down and plowed into fields.
Lakes were polluted with artificial fertilizers and overgrown.
Children could only admire the famous German red deer in picture books.
Polluting rivers and land became normal again.
Germany's "historical burden" inhibited local nature conservation, animal protection and even everything related to vegetarianism until the mid-1970s.
Even today, older Germans tend to think of Hitler first when they hear the word vegetarianism...

Patient

23rd May 2025, 01:05

seehas

23rd May 2025, 01:32

Well, I didn't expect when I started reading this thread that it would turn into a discussion about jews and nazis.

But at the same time, considering things that I have experienced and seen lately, this is in line with how so many things in our world's society is crumbling right now.

I would like to get back on topic because I have a question pertaining to the thread's title.

I was just watching a Shawn Ryan interview with Steve Kwast - the CEO and founder of SpaceBilt. (Basically building crafts in space.) He is claiming that China is already on the far side of the moon. But the U.S. does not know what China is doing there. Steve Kwast believes that China is wanting to mine Helium-3 on the moon.

If the U.S. has some "space force" and has been flying around for years then wouldn't they know about this? If Steve Kwast is the CEO of a company that is trying to build satellites and crafts in space, then wouldn't he be privy to some intel about the status of U.S. in space? Wouldn't they have contacted him themselves therefore he wouldn't be on the Shawn Ryan show talking about this?

Ok, now people will say - "Well, he is there to get the public on board with the U.S. spending more on space exploration." If that is the case - what's the point? Why not just show people that the U.S. has this under control?

I am being led to question so many things lately (I have a large list) - mind blown!

Just one sentence regarding the Jews and Nazi comment: Divide and Conquer.

There is more than one offspring civilisation right now. There are many different splinter groups, and some of these groups try to get the human slaves that have been left alone in Disneyland on planet Earth back into the loop, so to speak. Maybe they reached a point where they found out that they need us to progress further, whatever this would imply.

Of course, it is nonsense to build a "nuclear" power plant on the moon, but it seems to be important for them to get into the people's heads that we have a base there.

There seems to be a force that is driving a soft disclosure agenda for quite some years and this fits perfectly into the picture.

Ravenlocke

23rd May 2025, 01:53

In searching for answers to the question, whether the US Artemis program is the rival to the China’s objective for a lunar outpost, I found Artaud Bertrand’s X lengthy comment on the topic.

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I’m seeing a lot of questions on the launch of China’s Chang’e 6 mission yesterday to get samples - for the first time - from the far side of the moon.

We don’t know (afaik) why specifically they’re doing that, but we have a pretty good idea what grand vision China is working towards with their space program.

How? From this 2022 video by Chas Freeman (former Assistant Secretary of Defense and Nixon's interpreter during his era-defining 1972 China visit), who imho is undoubtedly one of the most knowledgeable former US officials on China.

He says that according to his own discussions with people running China’s space program, they’re following the vision described in the book "The high frontier" by Gerard K. O'Neill, which Freeman says has "become the bible of the Chinese space program".

I read the book. So what vision does it describe?

The book was written in 1976 by O'Neill who was a professor of physics at Princeton University. He also founded the Space Studies Institute, an organization devoted to funding research into space manufacturing and colonization. In other words, he knew his stuff.

The book makes the very fair point that we have massive resource constraints on earth, especially given the growing population. He estimated in 1976 that we should be "about six and a half billion people in the year 2000", and we were 6.114 billion back then so he was pretty prescient. He estimates that these constraints will progressively give rise to more and more social tensions as the growing earth population competes for our limited resources as well as faces global problems like climate change. In his view, dealing with this will either require "an authoritarian regime capable of mounting the immense task of social reorganization needed to escape catastrophe" or, alternatively, “mankind would [need to adopt] a static society [that would be] forced in self-defense to suppress new ideas". The 3rd alternative is of course the colonization of space.

The most interesting aspect of the book is that he claims everything he writes is feasible with knowledge and technology that already existed in the late 70s. In short he calls for the establishment of large human habitats in the Earth-Moon system, located at stable Lagrange points ("parking spots" in space where gravity from different spatial bodies cancel each other out).

In particular he developed the concept of what's known today as the "O'Neill cylinder" which he says "could support quite easily a population of ten million people, growing its food in agricultural cylinders near but outside the main habitat".

Energy-wise, it'd simply make use of solar energy via a system of mirrors. As he describes it: "the concentration of the unvarying, intense sunlight of space by very lightweight, inexpensive mirrors can provide all the energy that industry will ever need [...] at a fraction of a cent per kilowatt-hour".

He envisages building these habitats with material from the moon, shot into space via "mass drivers", a form of electromagnetic catapult. Also "the habitats would have artificial gravity similar as that of earth by rotating about twenty-eight times an hour”, but he also envisages low-gravity areas, especially for recreational activities such as swimming pools or dancing representations.

To trade with earth, he develops the idea of beaming solar power back to earth via "microwave from solar power stations in orbit". As he describes it "the microwave beam would arrive at Earth with a beam width of about seven kilometers. Its intensity would be modest, less than half that of sunlight. In contrast to sunlight, though, it would be there all the time, even at night or in clouds or rain, and it would be in a form ready for conversion to DC current with a loss of only 10 percent. The areas receiving these beams’ output on Earth would be fenced, and outside the fence the intensity of microwave radiation would be no higher than outside a microwave oven with the door closed.

He estimates that if "Satellite Solar Power Stations (SSPS) were to become the sole source of electric energy in the United States in the year 2000, the land area necessary for the SSPS antennas would still be only 0.2 percent of that of the continental United States". In short, the establishment of space colonies could lead to the fulfillment of a good share of Earth's energy needs.

Last but not least he describes life in space habitats as better than that of earth, largely thanks to the level of control we'd have over the environment (total climate control which would enable an abundance of food and no natural disaster) as well as unlimited cheap energy.

To conclude, Chas Freeman typically really knows his stuff when it comes to China and he’s very intellectually honest (a rare trait among US officials) so I have no doubt he tells the truth when he says the Chinese told him that was the vision. And China famously thinks very big and very long term so it would be quite like them to go for something like this.

There are also quite a few tangible signs that China is working towards that vision. See for instance this November 2022 news where “China’s space station will join a project to collect solar power from space and send it to Earth in a high-energy microwave beam”: https://scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3200819/chinas-space-station-will-run-high-energy-beam-experiment-controversial-solar-power-plant-chief That’s exactly O’Neill’s vision!

Or check this October 2022 news that says China is developing new "electromagnetic sledges" that can propel a carriage weighing a few tonnes to a record speed, with a key application for this being “aerospace”: https://scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3196667/hurry-chinas-electromagnetic-sledge-cruises-nearly-speed-sound Remember: O’Neill’s vision is to build his habitats with material from the moon, shot into space via "mass drivers", a form of electromagnetic catapult. So there you go…

Or also the fact that the Chinese will build, together with the Russians, a moon base - planned for 2028 - powered by a “space nuclear reactor” that’s already been developed (on Earth) and has passed review by China’s Ministry of Science: https://scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3200569/china-developing-new-nuclear-system-power-moon-base-expected-be-and-running-2028 The space nuclear reactor can generate 1MW of electricity, enough to power 10 International Space Stations. Enough power, maybe, to undertake mining activity and power an electromagnetic catapult…

After visions change, the world changes, so it’s also possible that China’s view on what they want to do has evolved. In any case, Chas Freeman is right that China’s motivation for all its initiatives in space can’t just be to “boldly explore where no-one has been before”, they have to be working towards something.

And Freeman is also absolutely right to lament that the U.S. decided to ban any cooperation in space with the Chinese. Those endeavors are something that could have been jointly developed as a multilateral effort to unite us all as a species… Instead China is now forced to go at it alone with Russia and we face a future where our petty divisions on Earth will be carried with us to space…

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Ravenlocke

23rd May 2025, 01:59

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In less than 1 hour, China's Chang'e 6 will head to the moon, and it's not going alone! Instruments from France🇫🇷, Italy🇮🇹, Pakistan🇵🇰, and the European Space Agency🇪🇺 are hitching a ride too.

The US has long been stirring up the "China Space Threat" narrative. Of course, China is a threat. A threat to US hegemony in the space.

To maintain its space hegemony, the US Congress even passed the Wolf Amendment in 2011 to ban NASA's future collaboration with China.

But it can't slow China's pace.

In 2019, Chang'e 4 achieved a historic touchdown on the moon's far side. Germany🇩🇪, Sweden🇸🇪, Netherlands🇳🇱, and Saudi Arabia🇸🇦 were already partners in the mission.

In 2020, Chang'e 5 achieved a major milestone by successfully returning soil samples from the moon.

This time, Chang'e 6 will bring back samples from the moon's far side, an unprecedented mission.

Space is not a domain owned by a single nation. International cooperation is essential for lunar exploration, and China is doing so!

In the latest disclosure, China involves more countries in its lunar exploration project.

Chang'e 7, scheduled to launch around 2026, will carry instruments from Egypt🇪🇬, Bahrain🇧🇭, Italy🇮🇹, Russia🇷🇺, Switzerland🇨🇭, Thailand🇹🇭, and the International Lunar Observatory Association🌖, for joint lunar research activities.

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🚀 U.S. Policy Backfires in Space Race

Did you know the U.S. barred China from joining the International Space Station (ISS)? In 2011, the U.S. enacted the Wolf Amendment, prohibiting NASA from collaborating with China in space endeavours. This move excluded China from the ISS program.

In response, China launched its own space station, Tiangong, in 2021. Now, as the ISS approaches decommissioning around 2030, Tiangong is set to be the sole operational space station, welcoming international partners.

Ironically, the Wolf Amendment aimed to hinder China's space progress but inadvertently propelled it forward, leaving the U.S. sidelined in collaborative space exploration.

China is and always has been about global collaboration, which is more than can be said about the U.S.

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There used to be no competition in the moon landing between China and the United States. China's moon landing plan was made a long time ago and will be completed before 2030. The American plan was approved in 2017 by Trump:

Artemis 1 (2021, unmanned in orbit flight test);
Artemis 2 (2023, manned in orbit flight test);
Artemis 3 (2024, manned moon landing).

However, after several delays, Artemis 1 was not completed until December 2022, so NASA announced that the moon landing would be postponed until 2025; On January 2024, NASA announced another postponement until September 2026.

if Americans keep delaying like this, there will be suspense over who will land on the moon first, China and the United States? Especially in the context where many people question the authenticity of American moon landings in last century, this competition is going to be very interesting.

https://x.com/BeijingDai/status/1791323669211566240

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Patient

23rd May 2025, 02:05

And Freeman is also absolutely right to lament that the U.S. decided to ban any cooperation in space with the Chinese. Those endeavors are something that could have been jointly developed as a multilateral effort to unite us all as a species… Instead China is now forced to go at it alone with Russia and we face a future where our petty divisions on Earth will be carried with us to space…

Thank you for that! I have not followed the "space race" topic for a long time and would not have seen that if you didn't post it.

And I was just thinking about how much we might progress as a unified species if the U.S. would partner in some way. ( I am not a globalist - just human.) And there was that last paragraph...perfect!

Ravenlocke

23rd May 2025, 02:05

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/china-led-lunar-base-include-nuclear-power-plant-moons-surface-space-official-2025-04-23/

China, Russia may build nuclear plant on moon to power lunar station, official says

SHANGHAI, April 23 (Reuters) - China is considering building a nuclear plant on the moon to power the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS) it is planning with Russia, a presentation by a senior official showed on Wednesday.

China aims to become a major space power and land astronauts on the moon by 2030, and its planned Chang’e-8 mission for 2028 would lay the groundwork for constructing a permanent, manned lunar base.

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In a presentation in Shanghai, the 2028 mission's Chief Engineer Pei Zhaoyu showed that the lunar base’s energy supply could also depend on large-scale solar arrays, and pipelines and cables for heating and electricity built on the moon's surface.

Russia’s space agency Roscosmos said last year it planned to build a nuclear reactor on the moon’s surface with the China National Space Administration (CNSA) by 2035 to power the ILRS.
The inclusion of the nuclear power unit in a Chinese space official’s presentation at a conference for officials from the 17 countries and international organisations that make up the ILRS suggests Beijing supports the idea, although it has never formally announced it.

"An important question for the ILRS is power supply, and in this Russia has a natural advantage, when it comes to nuclear power plants, especially sending them into space, it leads the world, it is ahead of the United States," Wu Weiren, chief designer of China’s lunar exploration program, told Reuters on the sidelines of the conference.

After little progress on talks over a space-based reactor in the past, "I hope this time both countries can send a nuclear reactor to the moon," Wu said.

China's timeline to build an outpost on the moon's south pole coincides with NASA's more ambitious and advanced Artemis programme, which aims to put U.S. astronauts back on the lunar surface in December 2025.
Wu said last year that a "basic model" of the ILRS, with the Moon's south pole as its core, would be built by 2035.

In the future, China will create the "555 Project," inviting 50 countries, 500 international scientific research institutions, and 5,000 overseas researchers to join the ILRS.

Researchers from Roscosmos also presented at the conference in Shanghai, sharing details about plans to look for mineral and water resources, including possibly using lunar material as fuel.

The ILRS preceded Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022 but incentives for cooperation between Roscosmos and CNSA have increased since the outbreak of the war, according to Chinese analysts.

With China's rapid technological advances and lunar achievements, and as Western sanctions prevent Roscosmos from many imports of space technology and equipment, China can now "alleviate the pressure" on Russia and help it "achieve new breakthroughs in satellite launches, lunar exploration, and space stations," Liu Ying, a researcher at the Chinese foreign ministry's diplomatic academy, wrote in a journal article last year.

Ravenlocke

23rd May 2025, 02:19

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Just in - the Trump administration proposes the cancellation of NASA’s SLS rocket after Artemis III and the Lunar Gateway space station.

To transition the Artemis Program to have more sustainable lunar exploration, commercial entities will now take over NASA crewed lunar missions and Gateway hardware will be repurposed for other missions.

This is all in an effort for NASA to beat China back to the Moon as the nation is preparing to land astronauts on the Moon before 2030.

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The Artemis Program & China’s lunar EVA spacesuit, compared side by side.

NASA aims to land crew on the Moon in 2026, China is pushing to do the same before 2030. The race is certainly on.

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Ravenlocke

23rd May 2025, 02:36

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What's behind ambitious Russo-Chines Moon station program?

Russia is pushing ahead with plans to install a nuclear power plant on the surface of the Moon for a joint Russo-Chinese lunar project.

Roscosmos General Director Yuri Borisov has flown to the People's Republic, where he is due to discuss with the endeavor with the Chinese space agency.

🔸 Roscosmos, Russia’s State Corporation for Space Activities, announced a joint scientific lunar station project with China in March 2023. In 2021 Moscow and Beijing signed an intergovernmental agreement on joint lunar exploration.

🔸 To ensure the uninterrupted functioning of the station, the sides decided to use nuclear energy. A lunar day lasts 27 Earth days, and for half of this time sunlight does not reach the surface of the Moon, maing solar panels unviable.

🔸 A nuclear reactor designed to power the international lunar station would be initially tested on Earth, Borisov told reporters in May.

🔸 Russia is planning to install the reactor on the Moon in the 2030s. The mission will be unmanned and automated, using robots to avoid radiation risks, according to Roscosmos.

🔸 "The lunar station's task… would be to conduct multidisciplinary, multi-purpose research work to study the Moon and to use it," Deputy General Director of Roscosmos Sergei Savelyev told the Federation Council Committee meeting in June.

🔸 On June 25, China's Chang'e-6 robotic lunar (https://t.me/SputnikInt/58350) exploration lander returned to Earth with the first samples of Moon rock, marking the successful completion of its 53-day mission. The Chinese Lunar Exploration Program was founded in January 2004.

🔸 The Russian Moon Exploration Program dates back to the Soviet era. The Soviet Luna 16 was the first robotic mission that returned a sample of lunar soil to Earth in 1970. Despite the Russian Luna-25 entering to an unplanned orbit last year, Roscosmos' lunar exploration effort is developing full-throttle.

*the pic is AI-generated

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1811061849657397676

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leavesoftrees

23rd May 2025, 09:03

Irminsül

23rd May 2025, 10:10

Excellent answer, Jaak. Many people speak without knowing the truth. All because the "winners" of World War II are in charge of telling everyone all the time: there are literally hundreds of films against German National Socialism (Nazi is a pejorative term) showing them as cold and inhuman beings. In Dune 2, even, which came out in 2024, they are once again shown as the absolute order that leads to evil. That's not true. In many aspects (human virtues), they were and are superior to most Jews: they shake your hand and, behind your back, turn around and speak ill of you, conspire to betray you, or believe themselves to be a superior race (goyim) and that you don't even deserve their pity. People believe otherwise, but Jewish rabbis are as much, if not more, pedophiles than Catholic priests or Islamic imams. And I repeat that many people have no idea and the true Talmudic Jews continue sacrificing humans, both children and adults, to their true gods: Satan, Baal, Moloch, Asmodeus, etc.

Irminsül

23rd May 2025, 10:28

Hi Seehas, I agree that there is a group of beings (the satanic reptilians) who benefit from humans killing or fighting each other. Meanwhile, they benefit from rapes, whether in a synagogue, a mosque, or a church. They take advantage of the evil they do to us by parasitizing us on a planetary level in every way. They are beings from the negative 4th dimension who eat humans, both figuratively and literally. In that sense, ufologists like Salvador Freixedo, who said that we are a human farm and that we must defend ourselves from the "gods," did make sense.

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Bill Ryan

23rd May 2025, 13:17

Mod note from Bill:

Um... isn't this thread about China and the Moon?

:ROFL:

Irminsül

23rd May 2025, 15:05

Good day, Bill! Yes, sorry. I’m not continuing with the topic of National Socialism vs. Jews anymore. What happened is that after putting so much effort into making the report I did and creating those image collages, Vicus told me that everyone here already knew 99.9% of what I shared (which I doubt is actually the case, by the way). I even included some pretty hard-to-find photos of Nazi craft made with reverse engineering. I even found a real photo of a Nazi base in a crater on the dark side of the Moon. What did you think of my contribution? I remembered you when you said that once someone from Europe showed you dozens or even hundreds of photos of Nazi craft, but didn’t allow the material to be shared. :smash:

Applesprig

23rd May 2025, 18:49

You are brave to speak where few dare to go.

Irminsül

23rd May 2025, 19:02

Thank you, Applesprig! The thing is, I believe one cannot live in fear of whether the Mossad, the CIA, or the lizards from Zeta Reticuli are listening to or reading you when you express yourself in this plane.

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Michi

23rd May 2025, 21:30

I am sure that I remember reading on this forum that the people who live on the moon don’t like humans from earth encroaching on their territory and that is one of the reasons that there hasn’t been a manned moon landing for many decades. It will be interesting to see What the Chinese encounter in establishing a Moonbase.That made me laugh. :) ("The people who live on the moon.") They may not be human 'people' exactly as we know them!

But the point is 100% valid. There are widespread reports that the US was 'warned off ' returning to the moon by one or more ET factions who have their own bases and activities there.

I tend to believe that's exactly what occurred. So yes, for sure, it'll be interesting to see how the Chinese mission fares, and whether it'll be 'permitted' to be successful.

An interesting part out of Dany Jones interview with Jason Jorjani, titled "Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse" (https://youtu.be/N8ishaUps9E?si=t3SEtoTET97UHtFf&t=3822) is the following related thing:

There was a we watched this interview multiple times on previous podcasts where there is
I think it's the head of NASA is being talked.
He's being interviewed in front of the Senate.
And they're talking about China.
How they had a plan to map or explore the dark side of the moon or whatever.
And they asked him, like, if they if we plan on doing it, too, and he goes, no,
we're not interested in doing that.
We have no interest in the dark side.
What I find profoundly disturbing about that is that humiliation is the worst thing in
Chinese culture.
The worst thing.
OK, so the Chinese are not about to go up to the moon and have their asses handed to
them.
Moreover, the Chinese are going to the moon in collaboration and cooperation with the
Russians.
The Chinese and the Russians plan to build a space station that orbits the moon and then
send astronauts from the space station down to the surface of the moon.
Right.
If there's that degree of cooperation between Russia and China on the moon, it means the
Soviet dossier has been handed over to the Chinese and Soviet dossier, the Soviet dossier
on the moon.
Oh, OK.
OK.
What's in that?
Right.
Everything the Americans encountered on the moon, which is why the Soviets never went
to the moon.
Remember, we were competing with the Soviet Union to go to the moon.
Yeah.
Why is it that we went up there and then all the Soviets just decided to cancel their moon
program?
No, they knew.
Of course they knew.
They knew.
And also there were discussions in the Soviet Union at that time that, OK, if America makes
it to the moon first, we'll go to Mars first.
They figured it out.
Neither are for the taking.
Neither the moon nor Mars.
So what's really disturbing about the Chinese initiative is that if the Chinese of all
people are planning to go up there and I don't know, if not colonize, at least do some
scientific research or whatever.
Right.
It means they've gotten clearance.
From the people that are there.
That's right.
That's right.
Now, what?
And notice how the balance of power is shifting in the world toward China.
Is it really?
It is.
People have different opinions online.
I don't know what to believe.
Look, I mean, it has been.
Now, whether that can be reversed is another question.
But.
If you wanted to manage a global totalitarian state.
Yes.
With ubiquitous surveillance and an extremely technocratic form of government with little
personal freedom.
Right.
A control society on a global scale.
The Chinese will be the optimal people to put in charge for that.
Yeah.
Because it fits the values of Confucianism.
Yes.
OK, so if someone on the moon, potentially also on Mars, wants to impose a totalitarian
world government on Earth, they're not going to make a deal with the United States.
They're going to make a deal with China.
That's what I find most disturbing about Chinese plans to go to the moon.
I actually don't think we would even be going back there if it weren't for the fact
that Chinese already are.
Yeah, but.
OK, maybe.
But who would they who would they make the deal with in the United States?
That's the thing.
There's there's two parts of the United States.
There's the idealistic view of the United States, and then there's the real people
who are running the show behind the scenes in United States.
And they probably are very envious of China's totalitarian surveillance state that they
live under.
So.
You know, I'm not sure it's very easy to make these kinds of moral judgments.
If I were in Lockheed.
At a high level with security clearance to the special programs that are dealing with
zero point energy, electro-gravitic drives.
Yeah.
I'm not so sure that considering the kind of society we have in this country, let alone
in the world at large, I would publicly disclose that technology.
I mean, we talked we talked about this last time, I think the weaponization implications
implications and dual use potential of such technology is extremely socially destabilizing.
So the thing is, with China, you can manage technology and control information in that
way.
Yes, totally.
Based on the ideals of the Bill of Rights and the United States Constitution, you can't.
It makes it way harder.
Right.
So they have a good negotiating partner in China.
Oh, yes, that that makes a ton of sense.
So even if you're in Lockheed, you're you know, you're stuck behind all these walls of
classification and these security oaths that you've taken.
You might still believe in the ideals of the Bill of Rights, and you might not be ready
to sell out, you know, at least the American citizenry to a foreign power or an alien power
that intends to subjugate the planet and, you know, subject us to a global tyranny.
So, yeah, I'm not convinced that even people in the deepest strata of the deep state
are so, how can I put it, callous and nihilistic and self-serving that they would make a deal
with people who want tyranny over to the planet.
In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if for a long time they've kept these technologies
close to the chest in order to develop some kind of a deterrence capability or to approach
parity, technological and military parity.
With what?
With them?
With, yeah, with the people on the moon.

Ravenlocke

23rd May 2025, 22:24

Russia is pushing ahead with plans to install a nuclear power plant on the surface of the Moon for a joint Russo-Chinese lunar project

I thought NPPs need an enormous quantity of water. Where is that going to come from?

Recently according to chinese news media China has come up with and built a thorium generator that doesn’t use Uranium nor require water for cooling, and also much less waste.

https://futurism.com/china-thorium-nuclear-power

China Fires Up World's First Thorium-Powered Nuclear Reactor
“Rabbits sometimes make mistakes or grow lazy. That’s when the tortoise seizes its chance.”

Months after satellites picked up a massive nuclear fusion facility in China's Sichuan province, the country's nuclear industry has blown the lid off fission tech.

During a private meeting earlier this month, researchers at the Chinese Academy of Sciences revealed the successful operation of a thorium-powered nuclear reactor located in the Gobi Desert. The team had achieved "full-power operation" last June, according to South China Morning Post, and recently succeeded in reloading the reactor while it was powered up — a world first.

It's a major milestone for nuclear power. Thorium offers a more accessible but less weaponizable alternative to uranium, according to the World Nuclear Association, which notes that "thorium-based power reactor fuels would be a poor source for fissile material usable in the illicit manufacture of an explosive device."

The Gobi Desert reactor is a two megawatt research unit engineered to use molten salt as fuel carrier and coolant. A molten salt reactor (MSR) theoretically carries far less risk in the event of a meltdown compared to water-based systems, as salts can carry greater loads of thermal energy at much lower pressure.

In fact, a "meltdown" is basically a non-factor for these systems — the fuel is already molten.

A report sponsored by the US government on MSRs notes that a "possible advantage of the MSR is that the fuel is subject to freezing," so "upon breach of a vessel or pipe... the fuel will disperse, and thus increase its cooling geometry, until it reaches a freezing configuration and thus will be confined to that location and configuration." Basically, imagine lava rolling slowly down a mountain as the air cools it back into rock, compared to a spectacular steam explosion like the incident at Chernobyl.

Curiously, MSRs are nothing new. They had their day in the US back in the late 1940s and early 50s, when American cold warriors dumped nearly $1 billion into developing a nuclear-powered stealth bomber. Congress halted research on thorium-fueled airplanes back in 1961, and uranium more or less became the gold standard, due in no small part to its military potential.

Assumed obsolete, the US' MSR research has since been made public, forming the foundation of the Gobi Desert team's work.

"The US left its research publicly available, waiting for the right successor," said the project's chief scientist Xu Hongjie. "Rabbits sometimes make mistakes or grow lazy. That’s when the tortoise seizes its chance."

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We are on the brink of limitless energy supply >

China’s vast thorium reserves could unlock nearly unlimited nuclear energy, according to a declassified report. Thorium, a silver-colored metal, produces 200 times more energy than uranium and could power ships and nations without refueling. China’s thorium reserves, found in mining waste and rich zones across the country, far exceed previous estimates. For instance, five years of mining waste from Inner Mongolia’s Bayan Obo complex could meet U.S. household energy needs for over 1,000 years.

Thorium molten-salt reactors (TMSRs) are compact, meltdown-proof, and produce minimal long-lived radioactive waste. China is building the world’s first TMSR power plant in the Gobi Desert, set to generate 10 megawatts by 2029. Thorium’s potential extends to nuclear-powered ships and lunar bases, with China already designing a thorium-powered container ship.

However, challenges remain, including energy-intensive extraction processes and concerns about weaponization. Despite these hurdles, thorium could revolutionize global energy, reduce fossil fuel reliance, and position China as a leader in clean energy innovation. The exact size of China’s thorium reserves remains classified, but the findings suggest a transformative energy future.

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Ravenlocke

23rd May 2025, 22:29

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China discovers enough thorium reserves to power the country for 60,000 years — South China Morning Post

The Inner Mongolia region is estimated to have one million tons of thorium, vastly exceeding China's current uranium reserves

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CONFIRMED: China built and has brought to full power the world's first-ever thorium-containing molten salt reactor, the TMSR-LF1. Initial criticality occurred on Oct 11, 2023. Full power on June 17, 2024. Pa-233 from thorium was detected Oct 8, 2024.

It's the first MSR to run since the US shut down its MSRE in 1969, which ran on enriched U-235 and then later on thorium-derived U-233.

Commercial-scale thorium-fueled reactors have run in the past, (Indian Point 1, Shippingport, THTR), but this is the first MSR to do so.

(I had heard rumors that it ran already but haven't seen it confirmed until now)

https://x.com/whatisnuclear/status/1903067742934069614

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Vicus

24th May 2025, 13:22

Chinese Astronauts Perform First Spacewalk of Shenzhou-20 Mission _ yesterday

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The crew was launched into space in April and will remain in orbit for about six months.

On Thursday, astronauts from China’s Shenzhou-20 mission conducted their first extravehicular activity outside the Tiangong space station.

During the eight-hour operation, crewmembers Chen Dong and Chen Zhongrui exited the station via the Tianhe core module, while their teammate Wang Jie assisted from inside the station.

With the support of the station’s robotic arm and ground-based experts, the two astronauts installed a space debris shielding device that had previously been transferred via the cargo airlock. They also performed inspection and maintenance tasks on external equipment.

This marked the first time since the start of Tiangong’s application and development phase that astronauts exited through the core module’s node port. It was also the first instance in which a crewed spacewalk was directly coordinated with a prior cargo delivery.

Veteran astronaut Chen Dong, who previously took part in the Shenzhou-11 and Shenzhou-14 missions, returned to spacewalking after a two-year hiatus. For Chen Zhongrui, a first-time astronaut, it was his debut extravehicular activity.

The Shenzhou-20 crew was launched into space in April from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center and will remain in orbit for about six months. During their mission, the three astronauts will conduct scientific experiments, technical tests and additional spacewalks.

The Tiangong space station orbits Earth at an altitude of about 400 kilometers and is designed to operate for at least 10 years. It is likely to become the only functioning space station in orbit if the U.S.-led International Space Station — which remains off-limits to China due to military restrictions — is retired as planned.

China has invested heavily in its space program, successfully landing the Chang’e 4 probe on the far side of the Moon for the first time. It is also working with Russia and other countries to build a scientific research base at the Moon’s south pole.

China successfully launched the manned spacecraft Shenzhou-20 on its way to the Tiangong station, a key mission of its space program. The Great March 2F carrier rocket was launched from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center, northwest of the Asian giant.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/chinese-astronauts-perform-first-spacewalk-of-shenzhou-20-mission/

Ravenlocke

15th June 2025, 18:46

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🇷🇺🇨🇳⚛️ Russia and China Commit to Building the First Nuclear Power Plant on the Moon

On Thursday, barely noticed in the United States, the Russian space agency Roscosmos director Dmitry Bakanov and China's National Space Administration chief Zhang Ke jian released a technical protocol that would place a 50 MW fission-powered space station at the south-polar rim of Shackleton Crater by 2035.

The facility, financed jointly by Rosatom and China’s CNNC, is designed to provide uninterrupted power for the Sino-Russian International Lunar Research Station (ILRS) and, in later phases, for industrial processing of water ice into oxygen, hydrogen, and rocket propellant.

Bakanov’s Russia Day address said: “The Moon will host the first nuclear plant off Earth; it is the foundation for future bases.” Moscow and Beijing are not asking whether humanity should leave low-Earth orbit; they are publishing the construction schedule.

Why nuclear? Why can't humanity's expansion into the cosmos be supported just by solar panels and batteries?

The answer shatters decades of NGO-funded environmentalist sabotage. As Space Commune has reported: renewables are for show, but nuclear is for dough. Nuclear energy is a building block of the sovereign nation state.

No combination of solar arrays and batteries can bridge the 354-hour lunar night, let alone power electrolysis plants, regolith foundries, and pressurized habitats.
A compact fast-neutron reactor can. Rosatom will supply a modular sodium-cooled core derived from its RITM-200 marine units; CNNC will integrate Stirling generators developed for China’s Chang’e robotic program.

The project vindicates the thesis advanced half a century ago by Krafft Ehricke, the celebrated German-American engineer. His “Extraterrestrial Imperative” laid down three fundamental laws of astronautics:

1. Nobody and nothing under the natural laws of this universe impose any limitations on man except man himself.
2. Not only the Earth, but the entire Solar system, and as much of the universe as he can reach under the laws of nature, are man’s rightful field of activity.
3. By expanding through the Universe, man fulfills his destiny as an element of life, endowed with the power of reason and the wisdom of the moral law within himself.

To Ehricke, the Moon was “Earth’s seventh continent,” providentially placed three days away and rich in helium-3 for future fusion plants. A permanent, high-energy foothold there is not a curiosity; it is the moral pre-condition for moving industry off-planet and lifting material limits at home.

Predictably, the narrative against the peaceful use of nuclear energy in space has been written by Malthusian western environmental NGOs. Since at least 1989, Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace and Earth First all protested against various American initiatives to use nuclear energy to get into space and power various modules and landers.

Russia and China propose a different outcome: use advanced technology to expand the human domain and, in doing so, raise the floor for everyone—the very definition of classical “common aims of mankind.”

For the United States and Europe the message is plain. Either re-embrace the Extraterrestrial Imperative that sent Apollo 17 to on the last crewed moon mission 1972, or watch the next great chapter of exploration as spectators.

https://x.com/SpaceCommune/status/1934296089047314792

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Jaak

15th June 2025, 20:24

Ravenlocke

29th July 2025, 01:04

🇷🇺🇨🇳🏗️🌕The lunar project of Russia and China is open for international participation - thirteen countries will take part in it - the head of Rosskosmos Dmitry Baklanov.

The strategic goal includes the creation of a nuclear power plant with continuous energy supply, built using innovative technologies.
The nuclear power plant should be built by 2030-2032.

https://x.com/Hawkeye1745/status/1949920119792054484

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Ravenlocke

29th July 2025, 01:17

August 2023, Director General of Roscosmos Yuri Borisov spoke about the future of the Russian lunar program

🌑🚀In the future, the Moon will become a launching pad for exploration of deep space and distant planets.

Director General of Roscosmos Yuri Borisov spoke about the future of the Russian lunar program - the launch of Luna-25 was the first step.

▪️Luna-25 will enter the circumlunar orbit on August 16. A soft landing is scheduled for 21 August.

▪️The station will conduct a range of studies - first of all, the search for water. If successful, the prospect of building a lunar base and industrial use opens up.

▪️The complex of studies is designed for a year. The station will take lunar soil, study it and transmit data to Earth.

▪️In 2027, we should launch Luna-26, in 2028 - Luna-27, and somewhere after 2030 - Luna-28. These missions will be phase one.

▪️After that, Russia, together with China, will move on to the next phase - the possibility of a manned visit to the moon and the construction of a lunar base.

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From RT,

Putin orders funding increase for space-based nuclear energy

Roscosmos is investigating the possibility of building a nuclear power plant on the Moon in cooperation with China

https://on.rt.com/crpw

https://www.rt.com/russia/595796-russia-nuclear-energy-space/

Putin orders funding increase for space-based nuclear energy
Russian President Vladimir Putin has instructed the country’s authorities to allocate funds for projects that would allow the country to create nuclear energy facilities in space.

In a statement on Wednesday, the Kremlin said Putin had ordered the national government to provide funding for the implementation of a project called the Development of Russia’s Space Nuclear Energy Field.

The funding campaign should start as early as this year, and the overall effort would be supported by Roscosmos, the national space agency, and Rosatom, the state energy corporation.

Putin has also urged the government to pay special attention to “measures to further advance the already existing scientific and technological capabilities in the field of space nuclear energy.” The deadline for completing the task has been set for mid-June.

In March, Putin told government officials to prioritize the space sphere, especially when it comes to building a nuclear power plant, noting that Moscow has “good competencies” in this area, of which it can be truly proud.

Earlier that month, the head of Roscosmos, Yury Borisov, said Russia and China had been looking into the possibility of deploying a nuclear power unit to the Moon by 2035. He added that scientists had solved almost all of the technical challenges involved in this feat.

In December, Borisov also claimed that Russia had “a head start” in relation to the development of a nuclear-powered space transport module, describing the project as “groundbreaking.”

Moscow and Beijing have intensified space cooperation in recent years. In December 2022, the two powers prepared an agreement on building the International Lunar Research Station, a project open to other countries and expected to be launched in the early 2030s.

Meanwhile, the head of the US Space Command, General Stephen Whiting, warned earlier this week that Russia and China were rapidly developing space capabilities that could pose a significant threat to Western assets in orbit.

It came after the US accused Russia of having plans to deploy anti-satellite nuclear capabilities in space. Moscow has dismissed these allegations as “unfounded,” suggesting that they had sought to lure Russia into arms-control talks on Washington’s terms.

🇷🇺🇨🇳‼️BRICS nations, have already joined the International Scientific Lunar Station being developed by Russia and China‼️

This was announced by Dmitry Bakanov, Director General of Roscosmos, on Monday during a meeting of the heads of BRICS space agencies.

“Our joint initiative with China to create the International Scientific Lunar Station is actively progressing. Thirteen countries have already joined (Belarus, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Venezuela, South Africa, Egypt, Thailand, Serbia, Nicaragua, Senegal, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Bolivia), including BRICS members (Egypt, Ethiopia, South Africa),” noted Bakanov. 👇

https://x.com/onlydjole/status/1919175127063007505

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#Roscosmos confirms #Luna25 (Luna-Glob) failure scenario, adds some details: https://russianspaceweb.com/luna-glob-flight.html#

https://x.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1709181767217762447

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https://www.russianspaceweb.com/luna-glob-flight.html#1003

Luna-Glob mission
Nearly half a century after the last Soviet probe visited the Moon, a new-generation lunar lander launched from the Russian Far East with a destination in the southern polar region of the Earth's natural satellite. Originally dubbed Luna-Glob, the new spacecraft was publicly renamed Luna-25 to symbolize its historical connection to the Luna-24 mission in 1976, which effectively concluded the Soviet robotic lunar program.

Liftoff and ascent to orbit

A Soyuz-2-1b/Fregat rocket, carrying the Luna-Glob (Luna-25) lander, lifted off from Pad 1S in Vostochny on Aug. 11, 2023, at 02:10:57.189 Moscow Time (08:10 Local time at the launch site). It was 23:10 UTC and 7:10 p.m. EDT on August 10.

After a few seconds of vertical ascent under the simultaneous thrust of the four RD-107 engines of the first stage and the single RD-108 engine of the second stage, the Soyuz steered due east so that its ground track matched an orbit with an inclination 51.7 degrees toward the Equator. It was the first mission from Vostochny heading in a strictly eastern direction, instead of flying along a north-northwest corridor as did all previous launches from the site targeting near-polar orbits.

(By entering orbit with the lowest possible orbital inclination accessible from Vostochny, the launch vehicle preserved the maximum payload available for the subsequent insertion into a trans-lunar trajectory.)

The first stage of the rocket separated 1 minute and 59 seconds into the flight (L+118.93 seconds), leaving it to the second (core) stage of the Soyuz rocket to continue accelerating the vehicle. The four boosters of the first stage were to impact the ground at Drop Zone No. 511 around 340 kilometers downrange from the launch site. Local authorities later confirmed that three of four boosters were discovered 28 kilometers from the town of Shakhtinsky, between rivers Desh and Tastakh. All 18 residents of Shakhtinsky were evacuated an hour before launch and "were returned to their homes at 10:30" a local official said.

The payload fairing protecting the lander then split into two segments and separated as well 3 minutes and 32 seconds after liftoff (L+211.95 seconds). Its remnants were projected to fall at Drop Zone No. 513 extending across the Verkhnebureinsky, Ulchsky and Vaninsky districts in the Khabarovsk Region on Russia's Pacific Coast.

In the meantime, the propulsion system of the third stage was pressurized, and just moments before the scheduled separation of the second stage, the RD-0124 engine of the third stage ignited and fired through a lattice structure connecting the boosters. The empty second stage separated 4 minutes and 48 seconds into the flight (L+287.86 seconds) and seconds later, the aft skirt of the third stage split into three segments and fell off (at L+292.46 seconds). All these fragments were to splash down in the Sea of Okhotsk at Drop Zone No. 515.

The third stage continued firing until around nine minutes into the flight (until L+560.64 seconds), followed by the separation of the Fregat upper stage with the lander over the Pacific Ocean 9 minutes and 24 seconds after liftoff (L+563.94 seconds). Just short of orbital velocity, the third stage quickly reentered the atmosphere and splashed down in the Pacific.

Upper stage maneuvers

Just five seconds after parting ways with the third stage, Fregat was to fire its main propulsion system to enter an initial parking orbit around the Earth at 02:22 Moscow Time or around 11 minutes after liftoff from Vostochny. The US Space Force later reported an object associated with the Luna-Glob launch in a 267 by 281-kilometer orbit with an inclination 51.73 degrees toward the Equator.

Then, after a period of passive flight, 59 minutes 52 seconds into the flight (at 03:07:52 Moscow Time on Aug. 11, 2023), Fregat was programmed to restart its engine to enter a trans-lunar trajectory exactly an hour after reaching the initial orbit. If everything went as planned, the Luna-Glob lander would be ready for separation from the Fregat 1 hour 19 minutes 47 seconds after liftoff (03:30:44 Moscow Time on August 11) and for autonomous flight into the vicinity of the Moon (INSIDER CONTENT) along a 350 by 400,000-kilometer elliptical orbit around the Earth. Fregat's second maneuver was also designed to reduce the orbital inclination of the mission by 0.8 degree.

Another eight minutes later, at 03:38 Moscow Time, the near-empty Fregat was scheduled to perform its final maneuver to enter a safe trajectory away from its former passengers.

Minutes after the planned separation time, Roskosmos confirmed that the spacecraft had been on the trans-lunar trajectory with the lunar orbit insertion scheduled for August 16, at 12:03:30 Moscow Time, followed by a landing attempt on the surface of the Moon on Aug. 21, 2023.

After separation from Fregat, the mass of the Luna-Glob spacecraft was reported to be 1,648 kilograms.

According to the operator of the Luch data-relay satellite system, Luch-5A and Luch-5B satellites were used to transmit telemetry from the Fregat upper stage after the mission had left the communications range of the ground stations on the Russian territory. A total 115 minutes of transmission time had been provided by Luch satellites, according to the provider.

Trans-lunar flight

During the day on Aug. 11, 2023, Roskosmos said that Luna-25 had maintained stable communications with ground control and its telemetry confirmed that all systems aboard the spacecraft had functioned normally.

Industry sources also confirmed that an optional orbit correction on the second day of the mission to adjust possible inaccuracies in trans-lunar injection would indeed be required, using DKS engines (INSIDER CONTENT) and delivering six meters per second in velocity change. The lander's engine firing was scheduled for 16:00 Moscow Time on Aug. 12, 2023.

Also, the Fregat upper stage was confirmed performing a maneuver that precluded its crash into the Moon. According to the estimates based on tracking data by the US Space Force, Fregat was expected to pass between 10,000 and 6,000 kilometers from the center of the Moon on Feb. 22, 2024.

Roskosmos then announced that Luna-25 had fired its propulsion system as planned for 46 seconds on Aug. 12, 2023. At the time, the spacecraft was 230,000 kilometers from Earth.

Roskosmos also said that the first activation of the science complex (INSIDER CONTENT) aboard Luna-25 had been successfully performed on August 13 and that the service telemetry from all the instruments had shown their good operation. First measurement data (from the instruments) during a cruise to the Moon had also been received and the scientific team had began its processing, Roskosmos said. According to the Space Research Institute, IKI, the ADRON-LR instrument (INSIDER CONTENT) had been used to measure the radiation environment around the spacecraft.

Luna-25 performed its second trajectory correction maneuver on Aug. 14, 2023, at 06:40 Moscow Time (11:40 p.m. EDT on August 13). This time, the lander's propulsion system fired for 24.3 seconds, according to Roskosmos.

Luna-Glob enters lunar orbit

According to unofficial reports, the Luna-25 (Luna-Glob) spacecraft was expected to enter an initial orbit around the Moon at noon Moscow Time (5 a.m. EDT) on Aug. 16, 2023. According to an unofficial report on the Novosti Kosmonavtiki web forum, posted around 1.5 hour after the expected lunar orbit insertion maneuver and citing available telemetry, the probe's engine fired as scheduled and the spacecraft maintained correct attitude during the maneuver.

Around two hours after the event, Roskosmos confirmed that two engine firings starting 11:57 Moscow Time (4:57 a.m. EDT) had successfully put Luna-25 into orbit around the Moon by 12:03 Moscow Time (5:03 a.m. EDT). The first maneuver was performed with the KTD engine (INSIDER CONTENT) and lasted 243 seconds. The second firing used soft landing engines and lasted 76 seconds.

According to Roskosmos, all systems aboard the spacecraft were functioning normally. The spacecraft was reported to be in the 91.4 by 112.6-kilometer orbit around the Moon with an inclination 82.087 degrees toward the lunar Equator and the ascending angle of 270.53 degrees longitude (a point where the spacecraft's ground track crosses from the sourthern to the northern hemisphere).

The mass of the spacecraft after reaching lunar orbit was reported to be 1,237 kilograms.

The first lunar orbit correction was expected to be performed two days after entering the initial lunar orbit and upon exact calculation of orbital parameters.

Also, on August 17, the Space Research Institute, IKI, released first image of the lunar surface produced by Luna-Glob's STS-L TV system (INSIDER CONTENT) at 08:23 Moscow Time (1:23 a.m. EDT). According to IKI, aboard the spacecraft, instruments ADRON-LR (INSIDER CONTENT), PmL and ARIES-L (INSIDER CONTENT) conducted test observations. In particular, they registered gamma-ray and neutron flows from the lunar surface and measured parameters of space plasma, gas and dust content in the lunar exosphere.

As of August 17, Luna-Glob was scheduled to perform a correction of its lunar orbit on August 18, at 13:00 Moscow Time (6 a.m. EDT), followed by another maneuver to form the landing orbit on August 19, at 14:18 Moscow Time (7:18 a.m. EDT), a poster on the Novosti Kosmonavtiki forum said.

On August 18, Roskosmos confirmed that the 40-second orbit correction maneuver had been performed, but with the engine firing starting at 09:20 Moscow Time (2:20 a.m. EDT). The State Corporation also said that all systems aboard Luna-25 had functioned well, but no orbital parameters or any details on the timeline of the mission had been released.

Luna-Glob crashes

The rest here,

https://www.russianspaceweb.com/luna-glob-flight.html#1003

Ravenlocke

29th July 2025, 01:43

From RT,

🇷🇺🇺🇸 HISTORIC: Roscosmos chief Bakanov in Houston for NASA talks

First meeting of space agency heads in EIGHT YEARS

https://x.com/RT_com/status/1949942465617596513

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Ravenlocke

29th July 2025, 15:41

Russian Lunar Nuclear Power Plant Expected To Be Delivered By 2030-2032

https://russiaspivottoasia.com/russian-lunar-nuclear-power-plant-expected-to-be-delivered-by-2030-2032/

Russia is working on a nuclear power plant suitable for use and installation on the Lunar South pole by 2032.

https://x.com/RussiasPivot/status/1949855355430928594

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https://russiaspivottoasia.com/russian-lunar-nuclear-power-plant-expected-to-be-delivered-by-2030-2032/

Russian Lunar Nuclear Power Plant Expected To Be Delivered By 2030-2032

July 28, 2025 China, Energy, Infrastructure By Russia's Pivot to Asia

A nuclear power plant that is needed for lunar expeditions may appear in 2030-2032, Roscosmos General Director Dmitry Bakakov has stated, saying, “The horizon is 2030-2032. It is important to practice everything on Earth so that there is no risk in space. The nuclear power plant that can be landed on the Moon will give power to those infrastructure models that can work independently and wait for human arrival.”

This work is being conducted under the federal project Space Atom jointly by Roscosmos, the Kurchatov Institute, and Rosatom.

According to Pei Zhaoyu, the chief engineer of China’s Chang’e-8 mission, China and Russia are planning to build a nuclear power plant on the Moon to power the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS), a project they are developing together starting with the Chang’e-8 mission.

The Chang’e-8 mission, set to launch in 2029, will help prepare for a permanently staffed lunar base by 2030 and explore how to generate energy on the Moon. Although nuclear power is a strong option, other energy alternatives are being considered for the station as well.

Energy is one of the biggest challenges for the ILRS. “An important question for the ILRS is power supply,” said Wu Weiren, chief designer of China’s lunar exploration program. “In this Russia has a natural advantage; when it comes to nuclear power plants, especially sending them into space, it leads the world; it is ahead of the United States.”

The ILRS will need reliable, long-term energy source(s) to survive the extreme conditions on the Moon. Russia’s expertise with space-based nuclear technology will play a key role in planning.

In 2024, Russia’s space agency, Roscosmos, said it aimed to build a nuclear reactor on the Moon with China by 2035. This collaboration is intended to provide the ILRS with consistent power and to enable long-term lunar exploration missions.

While China has yet to officially announce its approval of the plan, Pei’s inclusion of the nuclear option in his talk to officials from the 17 countries and international organizations that support the ILRS suggests strong backing from Beijing.

While China and Russia are moving forward with the ILRS, the U.S. is also working on its return to the Moon through NASA’s Artemis program. America, the only country to have landed astronauts on the Moon, hasn’t returned since the final Apollo mission back in 1972. Now, NASA aims to land two astronauts on the lunar surface again in 2027 and then build a moon base.

NASA’s energy plans for its base include setting up large solar arrays on the lunar surface. The energy will then be distributed across the base using a network of pipelines and cables. The U.S. is also considering nuclear power for the Moon amid a global race for energy independence in space.

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China’s schedule for building its moon base around the lunar south pole matches NASA’s timeline. Wu Weiren stated last year that a “basic model” of the ILRS, centered on the Moon’s south pole, would be completed by 2035.

Chang’e-8 and its related missions are part of this roadmap. In addition, China plans to launch the “555 Project,” an initiative to invite 50 countries, 500 international scientific institutions, and 5,000 overseas researchers to participate in the ILRS project.

China’s space program has dynamically developed over the past 20 years. After becoming the third country to launch a human into space in 2003 with the Shenzhou 5 mission, China landed its Chang’e 3 robotic rover on the Moon a decade later. It also became the second nation to land a Mars rover and plans to send humans to Mars by 2033.

If Russia and China successfully build a nuclear power plant on the Moon, it could change the future of space exploration. It would open possibilities for large-scale space operations, including energy generation and cargo transport.

The Moon’s natural resources are another major reason for the race to establish a foothold there. The Moon has valuable metal oxides, silicon, titanium, rare earth metals, and aluminum deposits. Even more exciting is the presence of helium-3, a rare isotope not found on Earth that could, according to Chinese scientist Ouyang Ziyuan, “solve humanity’s energy demand for around 10,000 years.”

Further Reading

China Expected To Join Russia In Building The World’s Largest Fast Neutron Nuclear Reactor

https://russiaspivottoasia.com/china-expected-to-join-russia-in-building-the-worlds-largest-fast-neutron-nuclear-reactor/

China Expected To Join Russia In Building The World’s Largest Fast Neutron Nuclear Reactor
September 10, 2024 China, Energy, Infrastructure, Investment By Russia's Pivot to Asia

China is expected to join the consortium formed to build a multipurpose fast neutron experimental reactor (MBIR) in Dimitrovgrad, Russia’s Ulyanovsk Region before the end of this year, according to Vasily Konstantinov, a director of international scientific and technical projects at Russian SOE Rosatom Group. Konstantinov is also the CEO of the IRC MBIR Consortium. He was speaking at the Tekhnoprom 2024 forum in Novosibirsk.

Konstantinov said “China is now at an advanced point of the negotiation process. We signed a term sheet last year – the main technical, legal and financial conditions – and we are now essentially polishing the documents on accession. We have the Chinese’ accession to our consortium planned for the end of December this year. This will provide us with substantial financial resources. “

A fast-neutron reactor (FNR) is a category of nuclear reactor in which the fission chain reaction is sustained by fast neutrons, as opposed to slow thermal neutrons used in thermal-neutron reactors. They are a technological step beyond conventional power reactors, but are poised to become mainstream, offering the prospect of vastly more efficient use of uranium resources and the ability to burn actinides which are otherwise the long-lived component of high-level nuclear waste. They have the potential to extract 60 times more energy from uranium compared to existing thermal reactors.

Just over 50% of the reactor resources will be used by Russian industry organizations, giving a huge boost to Russian industrial productivity. In 2025, the reactor’s turbine should be completed, with a physical start up set for 2027, and the power start-up and operation from 2028. The reactor is expected to operate for 50 years.

In general, the reactor will offer the opportunity for research in nuclear medicine and radiation technology, and it will also generate electricity.

MBIR project director Alexander Zagornov has said that the overall estimated cost of the project is ₽150 billion (US$1.65 billion). The MBIR will be more powerful than any other existing or planned reactor in the world. The thermal power of the sodium cooled reactor will be 150 MW, while its unique technical characteristics will make it possible to tackle a wide range of research problems to develop new competitive and safe nuclear power plants, including fast neutron reactors with a closed nuclear fuel cycle. Russian state expert review office Glavgosexpertiza approved the design documentation for the MBIR reactor in August 2020.

Further Reading

https://russiaspivottoasia.com/russia-leads-the-way-in-global-small-nuclear-power-reactor-exports/

Bill Ryan

29th July 2025, 16:07

Tried to research it but could not find any details .
What kind of reactor they want to build on moon ? Tokamak ? Molten salt ? Thorium ? Boron-Hydrogen ? Plutonium ?
How they plan to relay the energy created there and to where and in what wavelength ? X-ray, microwave , UV or something else ?
How they are going to cool the reactor ? ( it is very hard to cool things in out of space ) . Maybe they want to direct the thermal energy to the moon ? Use the moon as heat conductor/radiator ?
Interesting stuff , would like to know more about it but cant find nothing.A late reply here, with my apologies!

Google (AI) responded with the following when I searched for ["China thorium reactor on the moon"]. It doesn't answer all your good questions, can only be derived from other online posts (accurate or otherwise), and I'm well-aware that Google gets things completely wrong sometimes.

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China is actively developing a thorium-fueled molten salt reactor (MSR) for potential use on the Moon, primarily to power the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS). This initiative is part of a broader effort with Russia to establish a long-term lunar base and conduct scientific research. The reactor, designed for autonomous operation and long-term power generation, aims to provide a reliable energy source during the challenging lunar environment, particularly the two-week-long lunar nights.

Here's a more detailed look:

Thorium-fueled Molten Salt Reactor:
China is developing a portable, modular MSR that uses molten thorium salts as fuel, which is considered safer and more abundant than uranium.

Lunar Power Source:
The reactor is designed to provide a reliable and long-lasting energy source for the ILRS, a joint project between China and Russia, potentially enabling extended lunar exploration and research.

Autonomous Operation:
The reactor is intended to operate autonomously, minimizing human intervention and maximizing efficiency in the lunar environment.

Safety Features:
Molten salt reactors offer inherent safety advantages, including a lower risk of meltdown due to the solidification of the molten salts in case of overheating.

Beyond the Moon:
While initially intended for lunar use, the technology could also be applied to other extreme environments on Earth, such as Antarctic research stations or deep-sea platforms.

Ravenlocke

3rd August 2025, 01:18

🇨🇳 China says it has found a way to produce oxygen, water, and rocket fuel from Moon dust using lunar materials.

If true, it could reshape the future of space travel and Moon missions.

https://x.com/Defence_Index/status/1951677850198687837

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🚨MOON DIRT MAGIC: BREATHABLE AIR AND FUEL FROM LUNAR DUST

Scientists in China have discovered a way to pull water from Moon soil and use sunlight to turn astronaut CO₂ into oxygen and fuel.

Lu Wang:

“We never fully imagined the ‘magic’ that the lunar soil possessed.”

No resupply rockets. No hauling water.

Just a handful of space dust, some sunlight, and chemistry that sounds straight out of sci-fi.

It all works thanks to ilmenite - a gritty black mineral hiding inside lunar soil - and a photothermal reactor that literally cooks it into giving up water and energy.

Sure, the Moon’s still a brutal place with killer temps, radiation, and uneven soil… but this is the first real spellbook for surviving it.

Source: SciTechDaily

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1949442143015358964

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Ravenlocke

9th August 2025, 17:28

‼️🇨🇳🚀A small step for the lunar rover, a big one for #China: the lunar module "Lanyue" has successfully completed test landing and takeoff trials — the first manned expedition is getting closer!

https://x.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1953908719214801368

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Vicus

10th August 2025, 15:39

Preparations for the Moon and...beyond...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d94G_s41P4c

Well, naturally the U.S part comments try to minimize China experiments and blah,blah...

But time will tell...if supposedly space exploration will be a Humanity endeavor or we go to take our petty nations differences with us in space...

Ravenlocke

21st August 2025, 00:36

Posting this here but Mods please remove if it belongs elsewhere, Thank you.

Filmed entirely at China’s #Tiangong Space Station, this groundbreaking documentary shows the real-life story of the #Shenzhou13 crew, through the perspective of Wang Yaping - China's first female taikonaut to complete a spacewalk.

https://x.com/wulei2020/status/1957700041138643385

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