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Dumpster Diver
11th June 2025, 21:44
I’ve been following Ben for 10+ years but lately he is:

Angry all the time (his divorce and steroids may be behind this)
- lashes out at posters for petty things
- has little patience with questions about his “science” (“do the homework!”)
- has fantasies about “teal pears”

Pushes his money-maker “Observers Ranch” (OR) on every post (but will not take questions about it, typically)
- my analysis shows the OR location is not as safe as Ben claims (better locations in the interior of Colorado)
- seems the location is really Public relations and making money, not the ultimate “safe” location (which I think is hidden)

Ben seems to have gone full-on Christian Radical: wearing prominent crosses, wife-beater undershirts, ranting about “Denver sucking” and its Satanic tendencies, adopting a crazy-eye “Rasputin” stare into the camera.

I used to think this guy was the real deal…not so sure anymore.

…I still listen to almost every short video he posts, tho. The long ones are too irritating, so no, not watching.

I’d appreciate any feedback from the forum.

dim
11th June 2025, 22:58
spotlight anyone human for long enough and you'll see schizophrenia

onawah
11th June 2025, 22:59
I was having very similar concerns until just the last few weeks.
I think the conflict going on behind the scenes with his wife (who was unfaithful) was really getting to him.
But I get the feeling now that the divorce has taken a huge load off his mind.
His diet of lots of red meat/high protein is probably wrong for his body type, and leads to anger, tension and hyper behavior.
Hopefully some of the more enlightened visitors to Observer Ranch will show him a better way.
In any case, a good, practical menu of survivor foods will need to include lots of seeds, nuts, legumes that can be sprouted for high enzymatic content and lots of cultured and fermented foods.
I can understand his desire to keep his private community private, but as for the location, I think it's going to be safe enough from the coming changes, and no doubt finances were a concern when it was being purchased.
Things are really getting underway now at the Ranch and with the new documentary coming out soon, activity at the Ranch is sure to be on the upswing and he will be able to relax more. See:

Anything Goes Live - No Homework Required
SpaceWeatherNews (S0)
818K subscribers
6/10/25

(If anyone saw Ben's activity on X yesterday and can tell us what happened that Ben is referring to in this video, please clue the rest of us in.
In any case, he is refreshingly, positively mellow (almost) all through this Q.&A.:highfive: and he corrects his course toward the end when he starts going off on a Q about ADHD. :chuckle:)
Some hints here in the first part of the Transcript about yesterday on X:

"So I've had an interesting 24 hours.
Those of you who follow me on X already know that let's hold up on the questions.
Real quick, this will be a beginner's questions allowed. no homework required.
Um, if it's something that can be answered in the homework I will do my best to answer your question short form, desalinated of course.
And then direct you to go do the homework which you really should be doing if you have enough care to be here and be asking a question.
Um, trust me it'll answer your next 500 questions so um but first...
So yesterday on X I probably went a little too far I was a little curious to see what the line was considering how outlandish.
I have been on X from time to time and how outlandish I see other people being on X fairly regularly.
Um, yeah, my buddy from uh well you know what i won't even say where he lives here, but uh Ranger RRD scariest person I've ever seen in my life um and I'm not exactly scared by a lot.
Um I'm sitting on the couch, I get up, I go to the bathroom, I'm in there maybe 25 seconds, I come out and
he's on my couch.
"Take a seat Ben we need to talk." Colorado Springs' finest came to visit me at about 11:30 last night and then this morning the Federal Bureau of Investigation decided to come pay me a visit, so that was fun.
Um I will say this, the ghost Colorado Springs' finest and the people that visited me this morning, they seemed very professional and as concerned and caring about me as they were anything else.
Uh I thank them for that and I respect them hugely and if you guys could have been there I think you would too.
This is how these are good members of law enforcement.
I mean that.
Anyway, ask me anything; here we go, what do we got?
Stop asking me what I did or what I said and I'm not going to not going to go into it."

ltN6seFbF3A


I’ve been following Ben for 10+ years but lately he is:

Angry all the time (his divorce and steroids may be behind this)
- lashes out at posters for petty things
- has little patience with questions about his “science” (“do the homework!”)
- has fantasies about “teal pears”

Pushes his money-maker “Observers Ranch” (OR) on every post (but will not take questions about it, typically)
- my analysis shows the OR location is not as safe as Ben claims (better locations in the interior of Colorado)
- seems the location is really Public relations and making money, not the ultimate “safe” location (which I think is hidden)

Ben seems to have gone full-on Christian Radical: wearing prominent crosses, wife-beater undershirts, ranting about “Denver sucking” and its Satanic tendencies, adopting a crazy-eye “Rasputin” stare into the camera.

I used to think this guy was the real deal…not so sure anymore.

…I still listen to almost every short video he posts, tho. The long ones are too irritating, so no, not watching.

I’d appreciate any feedback from the forum.

Jaak
11th June 2025, 23:12
Suspicious observers has indeed ended up a bit... suspicious.
I dont know much about prices in USA but 65-100 dollars to sleep one night in a caravan seems a bit much for me .
Starts to give Harold Camping vibes who endlessly kept predicting when the world will end and made millions while doing so from the poor suckers who believed him.
Information he gives is certainly interesting but that he tries to sell some merchandise etc while doing it is a bit off putting.

And some have called him a cult leader a long time ago . (im not a big fan of that professor dave ,he seems like a gatekeeper but he does make a couple of good points in this video ).
3fTLZTEE7mU

Casey Claar
11th June 2025, 23:23
He has a skill, for sure. I intersected with him way back in 2010 and have been following right along. He's young. I feel a bit sorry for those who develop a large following while still so young -most are not able to successfully navigate this. There is almost always a rocky "middle". He has a lot on plate relative to ego, which is clear. Like the rest of us, he will grow and develop and improve. Only in his case, in front of millions of sets of eyes. We should probably all send him a compassionate wave of "all in the highest light and for the greatest good." We need for those of us with skills to continue them.

onawah
12th June 2025, 17:10
I believe the price of camping includes a lot more at Observer Ranch than simple accommodations, such as access to an extensive library and to other facilities, to the staff who are very knowledgable, classes and seminars with expert speakers, gatherings with other Preppers, etc.
Davidson is very bright and very dedicated to his studies, devoting hours daily to studying the latest scientific data.
If you listen to his daily updates, it becomes quite obvious that he knows his field very thoroughly.
I think he is sincere about wanting to help Preppers survive and feels the weight of resonsibility keenly.
People like to remain in denial about what's coming and anyone like Ben who rocks their boat is sure to be under frequent attack, which can only be stressful even for the most stoic individuals.
Given how quiet the puppet masters have wanted to keep information about how much destruction solar cycles regularly cause, and in particular, how very vulnerable the electric grid is rapidly becoming, it's a no brainer as to how much they would like for Ben to keep silent, and I'm sure he is keenly aware of how dangerous that can be.
His competitors like Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock are going to look very bad indeed once it becomes obvious Ben has been right all along, though they are certainly capitalizing on the widespread denial as much as they can now; I imagine they are well prepared for their retirement.
The real scholars who don't dedicate themselves to creating a following and being a media star are much more in alignment with Ben as far as the real data is concerned.
So he's taken on a task that is extremely stressful and it's no wonder that he flies off the handle sometimes.
I think a change in diet and more meditation practive would do wonders for him, and I hope he realizes that soon.
Now that the divorce is finalized, he will probably be much more relaxed and happy.
His last Q&A showed a calmer and more peaceful Ben than I have ever seen.
It seems the visits from the local authorities actually showed him that he has their support, and that must have been encouraging.
When the documentary he is working on now comes out this Fall, I imagine he will be experiencing a lot more vindication, since the data that has been coming out over the last couple of years is much more conclusive than before, and so his detractors will have to back off a lot more.


Suspicious observers has indeed ended up a bit... suspicious.
I dont know much about prices in USA but 65-100 dollars to sleep one night in a caravan seems a bit much for me .
Starts to give Harold Camping vibes who endlessly kept predicting when the world will end and made millions while doing so from the poor suckers who believed him.
Information he gives is certainly interesting but that he tries to sell some merchandise etc while doing it is a bit off putting.

And some have called him a cult leader a long time ago . (im not a big fan of that professor dave ,he seems like a gatekeeper but he does make a couple of good points in this video ).
3fTLZTEE7mU

Arcturian108
12th June 2025, 19:12
I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.

Jaak
12th June 2025, 19:32
I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.

Indeed for him it is a business. He has made hundreds of thousands of dollars with it while he has been caught misinterpret data on many occasions .
All the money donated over the years for different causes always just ended up in his pocket and the causes never happened , like his doomsday APP etc.
I do suggest people to watch the video i posted . Some of the things he has done is rather shady ..
He might be genuine with his beliefs but turning his beliefs into business just adds a bad taste to it. Im skeptical of everyone these days

onawah
12th June 2025, 21:17
He is an attorney, but not a practicing one. He says he realized that he was more interested in science early on, and so his minor was in science, but he finished his studies in law as he thought practicing law would be a more lucrative profession than his scientific studies would provide.
I'm not sure if his main focus was astrophysics, but that certainly must have been part of it.
"Misinterpreting data" would certainly be the main accusation of detractors who are being paid to support what the puppet masters want the public to believe.
Just as Dutchsinse's detractors were--those in high academic positions--and all proven in time to be absolutely wrong and looking very foolish for not seeing the clear evidence that Dutch has been presenting for years.

Building a successful Prepper community and the education center like Observer Ranch are both very expensive projects so I don't think that acquiring funds can be held against him, or changing his mind about what projects were most important as time passed.
If he kept the funds under his name it's probably a good thing since his ex-wife probably challenged him for part of those funds during the divorce proceedings.
He has most certainly had a lot of detractors but it's not terribly hard to understand why (see my post #6 above).
He is Christian and I think the prophecies in the Book of Revelations and other prophecies about the "End Times" as well as info from "forbidden archeologists" such as Robert Schoch and Brian Foerster work have probably had a profound impact on him.
I would say that all three are very good dot connectors, especially when studied in combination.
I just hope that if he buckles under the pressure or is "suicided" there will be supporters who will be able to continue his work.
I think he is providing an invaluable service to humanity.
Bill Ryan has said he thinks Ben is no fool; perhaps he will offer more of his views here and his reasons for them.


I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.


Indeed for him it is a business. He has made hundreds of thousands of dollars with it while he has been caught misinterpret data on many occasions .
All the money donated over the years for different causes always just ended up in his pocket and the causes never happened , like his doomsday APP etc.
I do suggest people to watch the video i posted . Some of the things he has done is rather shady ..
He might be genuine with his beliefs but turning his beliefs into business just adds a bad taste to it. Im skeptical of everyone these days

Ben
12th June 2025, 23:16
The first time I watched one on his videos, a couple of years ago, I was immediately turned off by his use of fear language relating to the sun. That was enough for me to discard him as a credible source.

onawah
12th June 2025, 23:25
See the newly released documentary The Agenda https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129815-DOCU-The-Agenda-Their-Vision-Your-Future-Oracle-Films--2025--Full-documentary&p=1672124#post1672124
...which makes it VERY clear as to just why the Globalist controllers desperately need the lie of global warming to be believed by the public in order to continue with their oligarchal plans.
Anyone like Davidson who is publicly disproving that hollow theory is most certainly going to be a target of their attacks, and they have no problem paying shills to attack on their behalf.
Still no mention of the 12,000 solar cycle in "The Agenda", but that's not too surprising either.
Not many are willing to go any further than they have to to expose the Controller's plans, as they will then be subject to the same kinds of attacks.
It's no fun coming up against the psychological desire to remain in denial about such terrifying realities as the failing of the electric grid which could happen now at any time, and the cataclysmic effects of the coming micronova.


He is an attorney, but not a practicing one. He says he realized that he was more interested in science early on, and so his minor was in science, but he finished his studies in law as he thought practicing law would be a more lucrative profession than his scientific studies would provide.
I'm not sure if his main focus was astrophysics, but that certainly must have been part of it.
"Misinterpreting data" would certainly be the main accusation of detractors who are being paid to support what the puppet masters want the public to believe.
Just as Dutchsinse's detractors were--those in high academic positions--and all proven in time to be absolutely wrong and looking very foolish for not seeing the clear evidence that Dutch has been presenting for years.

He has most certainly had a lot of detractors but it's not terribly hard to understand why (see my post #6 above).
He is Christian and I think the prophecies in the Book of Revelations and other prophecies about the "End Times" as well as info from "forbidden archeologists" such as Robert Schoch and Brian Foerster work have probably had a profound impact on him.
I would say that all three are very good dot connectors, especially when studied in combination.
I just hope that if he buckles under the pressure or is "suicided" there will be supporters who will be able to continue his work.
I think he is providing an invaluable service to humanity.
Bill Ryan has said he thinks Ben is no fool; perhaps he will offer more of his views here and his reasons for them.


I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.


Indeed for him it is a business. He has made hundreds of thousands of dollars with it while he has been caught misinterpret data on many occasions .
All the money donated over the years for different causes always just ended up in his pocket and the causes never happened , like his doomsday APP etc.
I do suggest people to watch the video i posted . Some of the things he has done is rather shady ..
He might be genuine with his beliefs but turning his beliefs into business just adds a bad taste to it. Im skeptical of everyone these days

Mike
12th June 2025, 23:28
This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

onawah
12th June 2025, 23:32
Denial is easy (for a while at least), facing the truth is not, but fear is a double edged sword.
It can be a life-saving motivator as well as a killer.


The first time I watched one on his videos, a couple of years ago, I was immediately turned off by his use of fear language relating to the sun. That was enough for me to discard him as a credible source.

onawah
12th June 2025, 23:36
Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.


This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

Mike
13th June 2025, 00:37
Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.


This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

I already admitted it's not much of a contribution!:)

Delight
13th June 2025, 01:05
Maybe he is right, but he is miserable and angry and driven. I do not accept these events in my own reality. It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in. The more I see the coagulating of POV to form connected beliefs, the more I realize that CULT-URE is fracturing at a great rate and there are multitudes of potentials based on what we accept and anticipate. Everything we perceive is the after effect of what we have decided is true. It trickles "down' from the nonphysical through US.

IMO the spiritual world has many intelligences that influence us to desire our demise. In every case of collective attention to these prophesized events, they do not occur for me. It is as valid for me to continue expecting my own "realm" bumps along with no horrific disaster as it is for him (and all who agree) to have the worst case scenarios. This world really is one where our committment and attention creates. That is the big secret IMO.

I choose expectation that "all is well" day by day moving into a place of regeneration of the right side up shift to the real. IMO the real is that I as a spiritual being IN THIS EXPERIENCE may have what I most value. LOTS of people value wholesale destruction and doom.

Because we are all going to exit this world, IMO it is actually inability to face the loss of "this life" that subconsciously cultivates "everyone is doomed". Maybe I am mistaken about the solar flash and grid down? I however THOROUGHLY dimiss it. There is no fear for me or draw towards collecting stuff to survive it at any rate.

Time will tell. I really prefer what some may call denial and I won't back down. the good news for all is that we reap what we sow. YOUR opinion does not change my experience or vice versa. ONLY when I take your opinion and make it mine does it appear in my field of experience.

Casey Claar
13th June 2025, 01:34
Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.


This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

It is opportune to say something at this point.

Ben began reporting daily, and I want to emphasize this - DAILY - in roughly 2008.

Back in the beginning, it was just REPORTING, no live-streaming or "salt". No-one really knew who Ben was, his age, or what he looked like, he was just a voice, - a voice reporting HIGHLY INTERESTING things about the sun's daily activity. He had his eye on something, but I couldn't say for sure when the moment came that even he knew exactly what that was. But when he was sure, when he felt certain, he stepped out in front of camera and began to let everyone know. Goodness -he is barely 40 now, to think he was in his very early 20s when he began his daily reports (which used to be much longer and pure raw data) it blows my mind. Anyone with this kind of discipline has my genuine respect. When, just recently in the last year or two Ben started the live-streams, and people SO easily began donating to him I felt he had earned this, every single penny. Again, I will say, he has a decidedly certain skill. He observed the patterns religiously, hours on end, day in and day out for decades and a potential, and even probability presented to him. He has honed his skill for decades, his dedication to collecting incoming data consistently in real time is to me quite clear (regardless of the in front of the camera persona he also began sharing). His work had at this point gained a foothold of deep appreciation in me. I am far more alert to the sun, the magnetic poles and magnetosphere than I ever would have been otherwise. I have been able to use this data to quite successfully help myself, as I age, and also my elderly care clients. I won't go into details, but what the sun is doing is very important to our health, notably our heart health and increased incidence of stroke (all highly important to those I care for).

The entire body of Ben's work is online and on his youtube channel. If it were not important, this work, I would not point this out. Like the man or not what he is doing is important. He is young, and like the rest of us he will make mistakes. The most beneficial thing any one of us can do for him, our fellow man, is see him in the highest light, for the greatest good of one and all. This is what will bring just this more out of him. It is not an easy experience, being known to millions of people, his life experience is now connected to everything we think and feel of him. Help him be more successful/beneficial than not, while lifting yourself in the process by sending nothing but the best in thought-streams out into the ocean in which we all swim.

I am sending my advance gratitude out to you all :heart:


Casey

onawah
13th June 2025, 02:51
Lots of gratitude back to you, Casey! :heart:
I have copied your post to the thread here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1672247&viewfull=1#post1672247

onawah
13th June 2025, 04:37
Ben has definitely been angry and miserable for a while, and from what he said recently on one of his updates, the divorce has been dragging on and on, tearing him apart all the while, but has finally been settled, and his late Q&A session showed quite a different Ben.
Drained no doubt, but more relaxed at least.
He is a dedicated father with little kids caught in the crossfire of the divorce, which no doubt has been the cause of a lot of misery for him as well, plus the fact that his wife was being unfaithful with one of the resident Preppers for quite a while before it all came to a head.
As if he didn't have enough to deal with, and all that going on in the intentional community Ben started, where everyone must have been aware of it, no doubt causing a lot of unrest community-wide.

I don't doubt for a minute that he was reluctant to arrive at the conclusions that he has after all those years of concentrated study and research, but at least it didn't shut him down, quite the opposite.
And the projects he took on would have been daunting even for someone with huge resources, which he clearly didn't have. He started with nothing, as Casey has pointed out.


Maybe he is right, but he is miserable and angry and driven.
I do not accept these events in my own reality. It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in. The more I see the coagulating of POV to form connected beliefs, the more I realize that CULT-URE is fracturing at a great rate and there are multitudes of potentials based on what we accept and anticipate. Everything we perceive is the after effect of what we have decided is true. It trickles "down' from the nonphysical through US.

IMO the spiritual world has many intelligences that influence us to desire our demise. In every case of collective attention to these prophesized events, they do not occur for me. It is as valid for me to continue expecting my own "realm" bumps along with no horrific disaster as it is for him (and all who agree) to have the worst case scenarios. This world really is one where our committment and attention creates. That is the big secret IMO.

I choose expectation that "all is well" day by day moving into a place of regeneration of the right side up shift to the real. IMO the real is that I as a spiritual being IN THIS EXPERIENCE may have what I most value. LOTS of people value wholesale destruction and doom.

Because we are all going to exit this world, IMO it is actually inability to face the loss of "this life" that subconsciously cultivates "everyone is doomed". Maybe I am mistaken about the solar flash and grid down? I however THOROUGHLY dimiss it. There is no fear for me or draw towards collecting stuff to survive it at any rate.

Time will tell. I really prefer what some may call denial and I won't back down. the good news for all is that we reap what we sow. YOUR opinion does not change my experience or vice versa. ONLY when I take your opinion and make it mine does it appear in my field of experience.

It would be difficult to find any threads on the forum these days that aren't part of what you seem to be unwilling to admit to your reality, Delight.
It makes me wonder why you haven't abandoned Avalon for some much more New Agey venue.
The news from around the world is hardly blissful these days, at least not what Avalon members are looking at for the most part.

I used to try to live in a kind of New Age bubble that filtered out realities I didn't want to admit were real, but I feel a lot more grounded now that I realized how naive I was being and finally got through the stages of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and on to acceptance.
I wanted to believe that the Golden Age was right around the corner and something miraculous and wonderful was going to happen soon to make everything clearly start to come right within my lifetime.
I didn't want to go there when it came to Ben's information, but I couldn't deny my intuitive feeling that he was onto something, and once my spirit guides informed me that my own suspicions based on his were correct, I had to bite the bullet.

Human beings exist on many planes simultaneously, but the realtities of the material plane cannot be denied and are not changed according to human whims.
Physical laws just don't bend according to our mortal desires.
The Great Central Sun of this galaxy has certain regular cycles as the late Dr. Paul la Violette posited, and the evidence of that is becoming more and more clear, though the Shift that current 12,000 year cycle is causing is happening a lot faster than he originally thought.
All solar systems will logically be affected eventually as the huge shift of energy coming from the Central Sun progresses through the galaxy, and it will affect our Sun soon, evidently within the next 2-3 decades at the latest.

Souls still incarnating physically relocate to different planets when necessary.
Many souls that are incarnate here now came here from elsewhere, and many will relocate to different planets and planes of existence when conditions on Earth become much less habitable due to the coming Shift.
That's just seems to be another part of the reincarnational journey on this physical plane of existence.

How we experience it all on a spiritual level is an individual matter, depending on where we are in our spiritual evolution, but no individual can change the laws of physics that govern material reality, no matter how much they may want to.
The Creator made things the way they are and each of us are only a miniscule part of that Consciousness.
We may create our own reality to a certain extent, but there are definitely limits to that ability.

Here's a great article I just "happened upon" "coincidentally" just a moment ago (Synchronicity Happens) that sums it up almost as well as Ben could, though the part about what happens when "continental excursion" occurs is minimal. From:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/coming-solar-micronova-pole-shift-science-evidence-george-burdette-jr-a7u4c/

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/D5612AQGHap0VTB21Ng/article-cover_image-shrink_720_1280/B56ZVS9ECCGQAM-/0/1740853494399?e=1755129600&v=beta&t=XkuUVfM-AmPe5X_J5pPFIPpIVrwvUwK_Rq3n1UMY6Bk

The Coming Solar Micronova and Pole Shift: Science, Evidence, and the Breaking of Denial
George Burdette Jr
Mastering Words, Challenging Minds, and Provoking Transformation
March 1, 2025
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/coming-solar-micronova-pole-shift-science-evidence-george-burdette-jr-a7u4c/

The 12,000-Year Warning: Scientists Confront the Reality of an Impending Solar Cataclysm

Author: George Burdette Jr. Affiliation: Independent Researcher, Science and Technology Studies

For decades, the idea that Earth undergoes periodic cataclysmic events—driven by solar activity and geomagnetic shifts—has been dismissed or ignored by mainstream science. However, mounting evidence from multiple disciplines, including space weather research, geology, and astrophysics, is forcing a reluctant admission that a major event could be imminent.

The convergence of several factors—including the weakening of Earth’s magnetic field, the increasing interstellar plasma density detected by Voyager probes, and evidence from past geomagnetic excursions—suggests that a solar micronova and a rapid pole shift could be due within the next 30 years.

This article examines the unfolding scientific acknowledgment of these events, the historical cycles that predict them, and what they could mean for the future of humanity

Breaking the Wall of Denial: The Reluctant Admission of Catastrophe
For much of modern history, institutions have maintained that Earth’s geological and climatic changes occur gradually over millions of years. However, discoveries in paleomagnetism, astrophysics, and planetary science suggest that Earth's environment can shift rapidly, with catastrophic consequences.

A growing number of researchers are now recognizing that:

Earth’s magnetic field is weakening and shifting unpredictably.
The sun undergoes cyclic explosive events, known as micronovas, that may occur every 12,000 years.
Interstellar environmental factors, such as increased cosmic dust and plasma density, influence solar and terrestrial activity.
Past civilizations may have been destroyed by these recurring cataclysms, leaving behind clues in mythology and ancient ruins.

The increasing volume of peer-reviewed studies, satellite observations, and geological findings is making it harder for governments and scientific organizations to dismiss these possibilities outright.

The 12,000-Year Cataclysm Cycle
One of the most compelling pieces of evidence for an impending event is the 12,000-year cycle of major Earth changes, which can be traced through magnetic excursions, climate disruptions, and mass extinctions.

Magnetic Excursions and Pole Shifts
Earth’s magnetic field does not remain stable—it fluctuates, weakens, and occasionally undergoes rapid shifts known as geomagnetic excursions or full reversals. Some of the most well-documented events include:

Laschamps Event (~42,000 years ago): A temporary collapse of Earth’s magnetic field, leading to increased cosmic radiation, climate shifts, and possible megafaunal extinctions.
Hilina Pali Excursion (~12,000 years ago): Occurred during the Younger Dryas period, a time of abrupt global cooling and catastrophic environmental changes.
Other cyclical reversals (~24,000, ~36,000 years ago, etc.): Follow a pattern suggesting a predictable 12,000-year interval.

These shifts correlate with climate anomalies, mass extinctions, and possible human population bottlenecks—indicating that the effects are severe enough to reshape civilization itself.

The Sun’s Role: Micronova Hypothesis
A micronova is a small-scale stellar explosion, previously only observed in binary and now singular systems. However, recent discoveries suggest that our sun may undergo similar periodic outbursts, releasing massive amounts of energy and plasma.

The theory suggests that:

Interstellar plasma density influences solar activity. As the solar system moves into a denser interstellar region, the sun accumulates charge, eventually triggering a coronal shell ejection.
Micronova events happen roughly every 12,000 years. The last event may have been responsible for the end of the Younger Dryas period and the mass extinction of megafauna.
When the sun darkens before a micronova, it signals an imminent eruption. This is caused by interstellar dust temporarily suppressing solar output before the eventual burst.

Evidence supporting this theory includes the presence of iron-60 (Fe-60) isotopes in oceanic, lunar, and Mars samples, which are remnants of past stellar explosions. These isotopes suggest that Earth has previously been bombarded by material from solar micronova.

New Scientific Revelations: What the Space Weather Community Can No Longer Deny
Voyager Probes and the 10% Increase in Interstellar Density
NASA’s Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 spacecraft have provided groundbreaking data on the solar system’s movement through interstellar space. After crossing the heliopause, both probes recorded:

A 10% increase in interstellar plasma density, higher than previously predicted.
A shrinking heliosphere, allowing more cosmic rays and charged particles to reach Earth.
The solar system’s transition into a denser region of space, which may be amplifying solar activity.

This suggests that Earth’s space environment is changing in ways that could directly impact the sun’s behavior and our planet’s magnetosphere.

The Weakening Magnetic Field and Accelerating Pole Shift
Earth’s magnetic field is weakening at an alarming rate, losing 9% of its strength over the past 170 years. The magnetic poles are also shifting at an accelerating pace:

The North Magnetic Pole is moving toward Siberia at an increasing speed.
The South Atlantic Anomaly, a weakened region of Earth’s magnetic field, continues to expand.

If this weakening continues, it could lead to a full-blown magnetic reversal and excursion, increasing Earth’s exposure to cosmic radiation and solar storms.

Implications for Earth’s Future
Micronova Impact: The Sun’s Darkening and Final Burst
Before a micronova occurs, interstellar dust buildup around the sun could cause a temporary dimming of solar output, leading to:

Abrupt climate cooling (mini ice age).
Disruptions to agricultural production and food shortages.
Extreme weather patterns due to shifting atmospheric currents.

When the sun’s energy reaches a breaking point, the accumulated material is expelled violently in a micronova event. The plasma ejecta would:

Overwhelm Earth’s weakened magnetosphere.
Cause massive electrical storms, leading to global power grid failures.
Heat the upper atmosphere, triggering severe environmental changes.

Pole Shift Consequences: Earth’s Crustal Displacement
A geomagnetic reversal or excursion could destabilize Earth’s crust, resulting in:

Increased seismic and volcanic activity.
Rapid climate shifts as different regions move into new latitudes.
Potential flooding events due to ocean redistribution and tsunamis.

Historical records, such as the myths of Atlantis and other lost civilizations, may be remnants of real-world events linked to previous pole shifts and micronova activity.

The Urgency of Preparedness and Open Discussion
Despite the overwhelming evidence, mainstream scientific institutions and governments have been reluctant to fully acknowledge the possibility of an imminent micronova and pole shift. The reasons for this may include:

Economic and political stability concerns. Admitting the reality of such an event could create societal panic.
Lack of public preparedness measures. Infrastructure and emergency response systems are not designed for such catastrophic events.
Scientific inertia. Many institutions resist paradigm shifts that challenge long-held assumptions.

However, as more data emerges, the reality of these cycles is becoming harder to ignore. The time for open discussion and preparation is now.

The Countdown to Cataclysm
The convergence of scientific findings—ranging from geomagnetic excursions to increased interstellar plasma density—suggests that Earth is rapidly approaching another 12,000-year catastrophe cycle. The reluctance of the scientific community to openly discuss these dangers is being eroded by new data, forcing a slow but inevitable acknowledgment of what may lie ahead.

Humanity stands at a crossroads. Will we recognize and prepare for the approaching upheaval, or will we repeat the mistakes of lost civilizations, blindsided by forces greater than ourselves?

The signs are clear. The denials are fading. The time to act is now.

meat suit
13th June 2025, 06:09
I have been watching Ben's daily updates for a decade or more and have learned a lot in that time.
So has he... Somewhere along that journey he had thought that he had figured out how coronal hole streams caused earth quakes and after a long time of getting those correlations he had to admit it doesnt always work like that and then dropped the earth quake forecasts right down again.
It was after learning about Douglas Vougt's work that he became convinced about the existence of the re occurring micronavs scenario.
Now if you made it through any or all of Douglas Vogt's presentations, kudos to you, the man was hard work...
He strung together a very convincing and coherent story however. So that was way more important then his angry and clumsy presentation style.
A lot of these geniuses are great in their field and at the same time socially arkward in some way.

I was a member of the old suspicious observers website and it was a great resource with weekly audio recordings of discussions between Ben and others. Also a big library of videos from Billy Yelvertons plasma lab. I cant find those anywhere now.. sadly..
When that site was decommissioned, a lot was lost, and it seemed back then there could have been a falling out between people because of Ben's intensity...

Personally I feel that Ben is not somenody I would like to spend time with, not my kind of guy... but I think that his work is of the uttermost importance.
I have no interest in his personal life or his prepper ranch...

His daily updates are exellent in content and presented well, which is why I am happy to post them every day.

onawah
13th June 2025, 06:22
Many thanks to both Meatsuit and Casey Claar for their posts. :star:
They both go back a lot farther than I did when it comes to Ben's earliest work, so I've very much appreciated them filling in here with some info about his earlier work and background.
And thanks again to Meatsuit for taking up the gauntlet here on this thread to keep Avalon updated with Ben's daily videos. :thumbsup:
I am still very much behind Ben's information, it's just that I'm just getting old :crutch: (76 years now) and not able to keep spending as much time on the forum as previously.
And I'm also still happy to fill in when I find additional info that belongs here and to post in other threads about the solar cycles, where appropriate.
I can't think of a subject that is more important now for the survival of the human race!

Johnnycomelately
13th June 2025, 08:03
Hi Natalie. I appreciate your vigilance to the current hazards to our civilization, from our Sun, that Ben Davidson has brought to the fore. And I appreciate your will to communicate about this issue.

I agree with other comments here that mean, to say it delicately, Ben has done his best work. I think it’s OK to acknowledge his past contributions, while recognizing that he is now damaged-goods.



Many thanks to both Meatsuit and Casey Claar for their posts. :star:
They both go back a lot farther than I did when it comes to Ben's earliest work, so I've very much appreciated them filling in here with some info about his earlier work and background.
And thanks again to Meatsuit for taking up the gauntlet here on this thread to keep Avalon updated with Ben's daily videos. :thumbsup:
I am still very much behind Ben's information, it's just that I'm just getting old :crutch: (76 years now) and not able to keep spending as much time on the forum as previously.
And I'm also still happy to fill in when I find additional info that belongs here and to post in other threads about the solar cycles, where appropriate.
I can't think of a subject that is more important now for the survival of the human race!

norman
13th June 2025, 08:21
Ben seems to have gone full-on Christian Radical: wearing prominent crosses, wife-beater undershirts, ranting about “Denver sucking” and its Satanic tendencies, adopting a crazy-eye “Rasputin” stare into the camera.


I haven't been watching him for a long time so I'll comment on this based on the comments of others who have.

It's my opinion, that stuff, including cross blazoning (I suspect the crucifix ritualising is part of the satanic flippover) is indicative that he has been targeted and possibly possessed.

I don't know what to say otherwise, except that maybe those who want to, should pray for him.

norman
13th June 2025, 10:09
talk of the devil

Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

* I'm posting this without listening to it first.


The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson (https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/e/1749551253?t=323)
1 hour 43 minutes - Posted Jun 10, 2025


Show notes
Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.

onawah
13th June 2025, 12:24
Johnny, I think you and Mike are just jealous because Ben's so buff! :muscle::chuckle:
I think his best is yet to come (if he's not "suicided").
Hopefully he will be very careful as he is certainly aware of the danger.
I pray for him.


Hi Natalie. I appreciate your vigilance to the current hazards to our civilization, from our Sun, that Ben Davidson has brought to the fore. And I appreciate your will to communicate about this issue.
I agree with other comments here that mean, to say it delicately, Ben has done his best work. I think it’s OK to acknowledge his past contributions, while recognizing that he is now damaged-goods.

Getting out of a bad marriage can only be a good thing, and things in general are getting off to a great start now at Observer Ranch, which Ben and his team have worked so hard on.

As far as the veracity of his info, it's getting a lot of attention now on the alternative media, and the mainstream is even beginning to leak reports now about what lies ahead, so the disbelievers will have to stop scoffing and pay more attention now, which will certainly provide some measure of gratification to Ben.

He was recently a guest on Tim Pool's show (for the third time):
https://rumble.com/v6ssv1p-tim-pool-interviews-ben-davidson-the-coming-pole-shift-and-the-catastrophic.html

See the following recent reports from MSN.


Massive Solar Flares Are Disrupting More Than Just Cell Phones
Story by Lorand Pottino
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/massive-solar-flares-are-disrupting-more-than-just-cell-phones/ss-AA1G4HRa?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=d037fc417468456efda7426358b34bf4&ei=54#image=7
(Slide show at the link)
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1G4wtS.img?w=800&h=435&q=60&m=2&f=jpg

(This is on the mainstream MSN website and it's far from the whole story, but it's some indication of how the truth has got to come out sooner or later, since it's becoming more and more evident how the solar cycle/geomagnetic pole reversal is beginning to manifest more obviously, and can't rationally be hidden any longer.)

"Understanding Solar Flares: The Basics
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Solar flares are powerful eruptions of energy from the sun’s surface, often compared to the explosive force of millions of nuclear bombs going off at once. These bursts are caused by sudden changes in the sun’s magnetic field, which release energy in the form of radiation.

NASA categorizes solar flares into A, B, C, M, and X classes, with X-class representing the most intense. Since the start of Solar Cycle 25 in December 2019, the sun’s activity has steadily increased, and experts predict the activity will reach its peak in 2025.

Solar observatories have already recorded a surge in both the frequency and intensity of these flares throughout 2024. This uptick in solar activity means that disruptions are not just possible—they’re expected, and they are already being documented in real time.

The escalation in solar flares is pushing scientists and governments to re-examine how vulnerable our modern technological society is to these cosmic events.

Impact on Communication Systems
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The effects of strong solar flares on communication networks have become impossible to ignore in 2024. On March 29, a potent X1.0-class solar flare caused widespread radio blackouts throughout the Pacific, temporarily cutting off aviation and maritime communications.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) confirmed that high-frequency radio signals—used by pilots and ships—were severely hampered for several hours. These events aren’t just technical glitches; they can delay flights, disrupt logistics, and hinder rescue operations.

In April 2024, emergency communication centers in Australia and New Zealand reported significant signal losses tied directly to ongoing solar activity. As the backbone of global connectivity, satellite and ground-based communication infrastructure face increasing pressure to adapt.

The urgency to create more robust, solar-resilient systems is greater than ever, with industry leaders now accelerating investments in shielding and redundant pathways.

Disruption of Power Grids
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Solar flares can trigger geomagnetic storms that send surges of electrical current through power lines, threatening the stability of entire national grids. In 1989, a solar-induced geomagnetic storm famously caused a nine-hour blackout in Quebec, affecting millions.

Fast-forward to 2024, and the U.S. Department of Energy has issued multiple warnings about similar threats as solar activity intensifies.

In March 2024, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) launched a comprehensive study of North American grid infrastructure, identifying areas most susceptible to solar-induced currents. Utilities in the Midwest and Northeast have since initiated upgrades, such as installing new surge protectors and real-time monitoring systems.

The risk is not just theoretical: minor voltage fluctuations attributed to solar storms were recorded in Texas and Ontario during a flare event in April 2024. Experts warn that with Solar Cycle 25 peaking soon, utilities must act fast to avoid another large-scale blackout.

Satellite Damage and Risks
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Satellites orbiting Earth face direct exposure to the charged particles unleashed by solar flares, making them highly vulnerable. The European Space Agency (ESA) reported in January 2024 that elevated solar activity has already caused electronics malfunctions in several low-Earth orbit satellites.

The Solar Orbiter, a joint mission by ESA and NASA, lost contact briefly during a flare in February 2024, highlighting the real-time risks. Weather and navigation satellites also experienced data interruptions, causing delays in forecasting and service provision.

Satellite operators are now investing heavily in radiation-hardened components and developing new protocols for emergency shutdowns during severe solar activity. Companies like SpaceX and OneWeb, which operate large satellite constellations, have reported increased maintenance costs and unexpected outages.

The growing reliance on satellite infrastructure for internet, navigation, and surveillance underscores the urgent need for better defenses against the sun’s unpredictable temper.

Impact on Aviation
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Solar flares pose a distinct hazard to aviation, especially for high-altitude and polar flights. When solar activity spikes, radiation levels in the upper atmosphere can increase sharply, endangering both passengers and crew.

In March 2024, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) advised airlines to reroute several transpolar flights after a series of solar flares raised radiation exposure risks. Airlines including Delta and Air Canada publicly confirmed changing flight paths, resulting in longer travel times and increased fuel costs.

The International Air Transport Association (IATA) has since updated its guidelines, recommending real-time solar weather monitoring for all long-haul carriers. In one case, a commercial flight from Tokyo to New York was forced to divert to Anchorage, adding hours to the trip, after ground control detected elevated solar radiation levels.

The stakes are high, as even a few additional microSieverts of radiation can pose long-term health risks to frequent flyers and flight crews.

Health Risks from Increased Radiation
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The surge in solar activity has put the spotlight on radiation exposure risks, particularly for astronauts and airline personnel. NASA’s February 2024 health assessment found that astronauts aboard the International Space Station (ISS) experienced radiation levels up to three times higher during strong solar flare events.

This has prompted the agency to roll out new shielding measures and adjust mission schedules to avoid peak solar activity windows. Airline crews, especially those on transpolar routes, are now subject to stricter monitoring and reporting of cumulative radiation doses.

The World Health Organization (WHO) has called for more comprehensive studies on the long-term effects of chronic low-dose cosmic radiation, given the uptick in solar flare activity. In May 2024, several European airlines began testing wearable radiation monitors for pilots and cabin crew to track real-time exposure.

These measures reflect a growing awareness that solar flares are not just a technological nuisance—they also represent a genuine occupational health concern.

Economic Implications of Solar Disruptions
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The financial stakes of solar-induced disruptions are staggering. A March 2024 report by the National Academy of Sciences estimated that a severe solar storm could inflict up to $2 trillion in economic damages in the United States alone.

The report breaks down costs across power grid failures, communication outages, disrupted transportation, and lost productivity in key industries. In April 2024, several financial institutions, including JPMorgan Chase and Citi, highlighted solar flare risks in their annual risk assessments, warning clients about potential market volatility tied to infrastructure outages.

Insurance companies have also begun recalculating premiums for satellite and energy companies in light of new solar weather data. The ripple effects extend to smaller businesses as well, with disruptions to supply chains and e-commerce platforms reported during recent solar events.

The message from economists is clear: ignoring solar threats could cost far more than investing in preventative technologies.

Advances in Predictive Technology
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Recent breakthroughs in solar flare prediction are offering a glimmer of hope against the rising tide of sun-induced disruptions. The Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) and the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) provide continuous, real-time monitoring of solar activity, delivering vital data to researchers around the world.

In 2024, scientists at the University of California, Berkeley, unveiled a new algorithm that predicts the likelihood of major solar flares with up to 80% accuracy, a significant jump from earlier models. This tool is now being integrated into NOAA’s early warning systems, allowing utility companies, airlines, and satellite operators to prepare for incoming solar events.

NASA has also launched the SunRISE mission, a network of small satellites designed to detect early signs of solar outbursts, in March 2024. These technological advancements are shifting the balance from reactive crisis management to proactive risk mitigation, reducing the element of surprise that has historically accompanied solar storms.

Preparing for Future Solar Events
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With Solar Cycle 25 expected to reach its peak in 2025, organizations across the globe are ramping up preparations for more frequent and severe solar events. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) have joined forces to develop comprehensive response frameworks, which include public alerts, infrastructure hardening, and emergency drills.

In May 2024, several major U.S. cities conducted solar storm preparedness exercises, testing coordination between utilities, emergency services, and communication providers.

Businesses are revising their disaster recovery plans to account for solar-induced outages, while schools and public agencies are launching awareness campaigns about the risks. These coordinated efforts reflect a growing recognition that solar flares are not a distant, abstract problem—they are a present-day challenge requiring immediate action and ongoing vigilance.

Effects on GPS Technology
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GPS is woven into the fabric of daily life, from navigation apps to precision agriculture, and solar flares have proven to be a direct threat to its reliability. In April 2024, the Journal of Geophysical Research published findings that solar flares caused GPS position errors as high as 10 meters during peak activity periods.

These inaccuracies can create chaos for emergency responders, airlines, and self-driving vehicles that rely on pinpoint navigation. The U.S.

Department of Defense, recognizing the strategic risk, has allocated additional funding for research aimed at reducing GPS vulnerabilities. During a flare event in May 2024, several commercial airlines in North America and Europe reported GPS signal losses, forcing pilots to switch to manual navigation methods.

Companies in logistics and agriculture also noted disruptions, with crop-spraying drones and delivery fleets reporting major delays. The ongoing challenge is to develop GPS technology that can withstand or quickly recover from solar-induced errors."Economic Implications of Solar Disruptions
©wikimedia
The financial stakes of solar-induced disruptions are staggering. A March 2024 report by the National Academy of Sciences estimated that a severe solar storm could inflict up to $2 trillion in economic damages in the United States alone.

The report breaks down costs across power grid failures, communication outages, disrupted transportation, and lost productivity in key industries. In April 2024, several financial institutions, including JPMorgan Chase and Citi, highlighted solar flare risks in their annual risk assessments, warning clients about potential market volatility tied to infrastructure outages.

Insurance companies have also begun recalculating premiums for satellite and energy companies in light of new solar weather data. The ripple effects extend to smaller businesses as well, with disruptions to supply chains and e-commerce platforms reported during recent solar events.

The message from economists is clear: ignoring solar threats could cost far more than investing in preventative technologies. "

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The Sun’s Magnetic Field Is Weakening—What Does This Mean for Earth?
(More from MSN; though still a far cry from the whole story, accurate story, it's getting closer. )
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-sun-s-magnetic-field-is-weakening-what-does-this-mean-for-earth/vi-AA1BinzX?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=ea74794eb0464be3a2cfbf2f70356494&ei=36#details

(Video at the link)

"The Sun’s magnetic field plays a crucial role in protecting Earth from harmful cosmic radiation, but recent data suggests it may be weakening. What does this mean for our planet? Could it lead to more intense solar storms, power grid failures, or climate shifts? Scientists are closely monitoring this phenomenon to understand its potential impact on Earth and space weather. Watch now to find out if we should be concerned!"

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Paul Stonehill | The Disaster 14300 Years Ago... A Warning to Humanity? | June 2, 2025

Source: Paul Stonehill youtube (https://www.youtube.com/@paranormalresearchpaul)

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The video discusses a groundbreaking 2023 study revealing a colossal geomagnetic storm from 12,350 BCE, caused by a solar coronal mass ejection over 500 times stronger than the 1859 Carrington Event.

Led by Ilya Soskin’s team in Finland, the study used radiocarbon-14 spikes in tree rings and ice cores, analyzed via the SOAL-14CX model, to confirm the event’s scale. Occurring during the late Ice Age, this storm marks a new worst-case scenario for solar activity, highlighting risks to modern infrastructure like satellites and power grids.

The event coincided with the Paleolithic-Mesolithic transition, a time of hunter-gatherer societies and early domestication. The findings extend our understanding of solar events beyond the last 12,000 years and emphasize the need to prepare for future space weather threats.

(https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=1670773&viewfull=1#post1670773)[/QUOTE]

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Ben was interviewed by Bret Weinstein in May 2024, who introduced him, in his opinion, as "the world's leading expert" on the changes coming caused by solar events, and included a lot of info, besides the interview itself, on that Rumble page at:
https://rumble.com/v4vigf0-bret-weinstein-interviews-ben-davidson-the-coming-apocalyptic-magnetic-pole.html


Bret Weinstein Interviews Ben Davidson: The Coming Apocalyptic Magnetic Pole Shift
Sunfellow On COVID-19
71.9K followers

Evolutionary Biologist Bret Weinstein interviews Ben Davidson (SpaceWeatherNews, @SunWeatherMan on X) about repeating solar disturbances and their apocalyptic impact on Earth (and human civilization) as the Earth's magnetic field weakens and its poles shift.

Timestamps:

(00:00) Introductions
(05:40) Current sun coronal mass ejections
(14:10) Carrington event
(18:00) Transformers
(25:10) Nuclear power plants
(29:30) Earth's magnetic field and pole shift
(42:00) Why do planets' poles shift?
(01:00:00) Super flare or Micro Nova
(01:12:30) Species extinction
(01:18:50) Carbon dating, isotope dating and errors
(01:23:25) Shifting crust and changes in latitude
(01:35:00) Crustal shift evidence summary and mega tsunamis
(01:37:00) New pole positions
(01:39:40) Current solar activity
(01:42:30) Prepping for solar storm
(01:53:40) Underground caves
(01:56:00) Hopeful notes
(02:00:00) Wrap up

Original YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Gz7w3l_uE

.................

"The Earth is becoming more and more vulnerable to solar activity. I would never deny the significance of the ongoing economic issues, potential for World War 3, loss of freedom due to governments and the World Economic Forum pulling their Agenda 2030 nonsense, but folks, despite the evidence being right in our faces, the media is completely ignoring what is happening to the Earth. The magnetic pole shift and geomagnetic excursion are progressing and in the coming years we are going to lose all modern technology and the foundations of modern civilization. It doesn't get much worse than this, especially since other real global issues seem to be overshadowing it completely in the public forum."

-- Ben Davidson, SpaceWeatherNews, @SunWeatherMan on X

Source of Quote: More Bad News On The Pole Shift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbJSR2Zt80s

SpaceWeatherNews Website
https://spaceweathernews.com/

YouTube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@Suspicious0bservers

Observer Ranch
https://observerranch.com/

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References:

The Convincing Cosmic Energy Gravitational Genesis Of The Strongest Geomagnetic Anomalies Of The Magnetic Field Of The Earth
By Sergey V. Simonenko
March 31, 2024
https://ojs.ukscip.com/index.php/ptnd/article/view/221

The Role Of Geomagnetic Field Intensity In Late Quaternary Evolution Of Humans And Large Mammals
By J. E. T. Channell, L. Vigliotti
May 29, 2019
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2018RG000629

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Magnetic Pole Shift videos on this Rumble channel:
https://rumble.com/playlists/GbpFmMmx5ng

@SunWeatherMan (Ben Davidson): The Coming Extinction-Level Magnetic Pole Shift
https://rumble.com/v4urpw0-sunweatherman-ben-davidson-the-coming-extinction-level-magnetic-pole-shift.html

Update: Current Solar Storm Almost Over, But Earth's Magnetic Shields Getting Dangerously Weak
https://rumble.com/v4ur7s3-update-current-solar-storm-almost-over-but-earths-magnetic-shields-getting-.html

May 11, 2024, Solar Storm Update: What Has Happened So Far, What Is Coming Next
https://rumble.com/v4uissn-may-11-2024-solar-storm-update-what-has-happened-so-far-what-is-coming-next.html

Highest Geomagnetic Storm Rating, Dozens Of Networks Down, Coronal Mass Ejection Number 7 On The Way
https://rumble.com/v4ugh45-highest-geomagnetic-storm-rating-dozens-of-networks-down-coronal-mass-eject.html

Four Solar Blasts Are On Their Way To Earth! (Space Weather News, 05/09/24)
https://rumble.com/v4u963z-four-solar-blasts-are-on-their-way-to-earth-space-weather-news-050924.html

How The Sun Could Wipe Us Out
A Burst Of Plasma Would Set In Motion A Devastating Cascade Of Failures
By Bret Weinstein
July 19, 2021
https://unherd.com/2021/07/how-the-sun-could-wipe-us-out/

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Delight
13th June 2025, 13:02
talk of the devil

Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

* I'm posting this without listening to it first.


The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson (https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/e/1749551253?t=323)
1 hour 43 minutes - Posted Jun 10, 2025


Show notes
Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.

This was an interesting interview and I heard something interesting. he says control of weather is "horse ****" at about 58 minutes. I see in the collective discussions various factions of informers who seek to confuse us so we basically have a fractured "intent". He is in this one sentence telling me he is instilling something.

IF we as humans cannot "control" forces, then we cannot effect anything. But IF we CAN and have been and thus have caused various repercussions, then IF these machinations end and the effects end, VERY differnt focus of intent.

He is a tool as all influencers are IMO.

Bill Ryan
13th June 2025, 13:03
Bill, I thought you might like to weigh in on the thread here:https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1672192&viewfull=1#post1672192
And please don't miss Casey's informative post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1672235&viewfull=1#post1672235Yes. The new thread asked: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

I'm going to quote Casey's post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1672235&viewfull=1#post1672235)here, because I entirely agree. :)




It is opportune to say something at this point.

Ben began reporting daily, and I want to emphasize this - DAILY - in roughly 2008.

Back in the beginning, it was just REPORTING, no live-streaming or "salt". No-one really knew who Ben was, his age, or what he looked like, he was just a voice, - a voice reporting HIGHLY INTERESTING things about the sun's daily activity. He had his eye on something, but I couldn't say for sure when the moment came that even he knew exactly what that was. But when he was sure, when he felt certain, he stepped out in front of camera and began to let everyone know. Goodness -he is barely 40 now, to think he was in his very early 20s when he began his daily reports (which used to be much longer and pure raw data) it blows my mind. Anyone with this kind of discipline has my genuine respect. When, just recently in the last year or two Ben started the live-streams, and people SO easily began donating to him I felt he had earned this, every single penny. Again, I will say, he has a decidedly certain skill. He observed the patterns religiously, hours on end, day in and day out for decades and a potential, and even probability presented to him. He has honed his skill for decades, his dedication to collecting incoming data consistently in real time is to me quite clear (regardless of the in front of the camera persona he also began sharing). His work had at this point gained a foothold of deep appreciation in me. I am far more alert to the sun, the magnetic poles and magnetosphere than I ever would have been otherwise. I have been able to use this data to quite successfully help myself, as I age, and also my elderly care clients. I won't go into details, but what the sun is doing is very important to our health, notably our heart health and increased incidence of stroke (all highly important to those I care for).

The entire body of Ben's work is online and on his youtube channel. If it were not important, this work, I would not point this out. Like the man or not what he is doing is important. He is young, and like the rest of us he will make mistakes. The most beneficial thing any one of us can do for him, our fellow man, is see him in the highest light, for the greatest good of one and all. This is what will bring just this more out of him. It is not an easy experience, being known to millions of people, his life experience is now connected to everything we think and feel of him. Help him be more successful/beneficial than not, while lifting yourself in the process by sending nothing but the best in thought-streams out into the ocean in which we all swim.

I am sending my advance gratitude out to you all :heart:

CaseyI'll say it more simply (and far less elegantly!): I have no concern about Ben's personality, his personal affairs, or what he may or may not be doing at the Observer Ranch.

I'm only interested in the data he reports, which I'm as sure as I can be might be very important. As some of you may be aware, 6 months ago in November 2024 I received a strong clear message (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-&p=1643336&viewfull=1#post1643336) — twice! — from an unknown invisible source, that a major solar event would strike and incapacitate the US in (I believe) early 2029.

While I can't possibly know for sure if that will happen (let alone prove the 'reality' of my experience!), it all felt extremely vivid, real and plausible to me. Moreover. it's 100% consistent with the level of increased solar activity Ben Davidson has been predicting for a while now. That's why I follow his updates daily.

:flower:

wondering
13th June 2025, 13:45
It feels like fear porn to me. Not that it is false or that fear is the intent behind it, necessarily, but it portends to calamitous endings,and I don't want to put my beliefs or intentions there. In four years perhaps we will know the truth of it, but in the meantime I have a different focus that does not include our planetary extinction. :thumbsdown: That isn't intended to be judgemental, but for me it's not where I want to put my energy. :heart:

Tigger
13th June 2025, 16:29
It feels like fear porn to me. Not that it is false or that fear is the intent behind it, necessarily, but it portends to calamitous endings,and I don't want to put my beliefs or intentions there. In four years perhaps we will know the truth of it, but in the meantime I have a different focus that does not include our planetary extinction. :thumbsdown: That isn't intended to be judgemental, but for me it's not where I want to put my energy. :heart:

Fear porn? That’s an interesting choice of words.

Ben’s work has been very thorough and, in my view, seriously warrants close attention. Is he right? Probably, yes. A better question to ask is, is he accurate with the time-line? He’s quoted enough scientific papers to support his claim.

Does that make it ‘fear porn’?

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that advanced civilisations have existed on this planet long before our own, and that the premise that Ben suggests doesn’t necessarily involve a “planetary extinction”. It does suggest that our civilisation, just like others before our own, suffered an upheaval that wiped out millions, but that doesn’t mean we should reject the hypothesis outright.

There are archaeological records of an advanced civilisation existing on Earth prior to approximately 10500 BC (assuming the carbon-dating is accurate). That’s approximately 12,000 years ago. Since then, humanity has survived, albeit from an apparent loss of knowledge, not the least in how to build monuments and buildings that rival the engineering capacity of our most modern engineers.

Have you watched the documentary movie: “Revelation of the Pyramids”? It’s not available on YT, (I think) but if the mods agree, I can upload a copy into the Avalon Library. It raises some important insights about past civilisations that may be of interest here.

I don’t know about anyone else, but when accurate solar knowledge, mathematics and a deep understanding of cyclical stellar alignments start showing up in ancient archeological sites all over the world, I sit up and take notice.

Ben might come across as a cantankerous individual at times, but please do not fall into that timeless trap of “throwing the baby out with the bathwater”. I think Ben has a very good case to make.

I propose that the overarching message in Ben’s posts are what we really need to be focusing on here. Not his character, nor his somewhat ‘salty’ disposition - these are all human character traits that exist within us all.

On a more general note, I feel it is important that we pay attention to the premise embedded within many of Ben’s videos: there is a recurrent cycle that impacts this planet and all civilisations on it, we can pinpoint the cycle to approximately 13/26,000 years, and there is a weighty body of scientific and archeological evidence to support this premise. Given this, I feel that what Ben has to say is more than relevant, and it definitely isn’t “fear porn”. I, for one, am paying particular attention to his research.

onawah
13th June 2025, 18:48
Just a little backtracking--some errors here in the OP I would like to point out.
I doubt very much that Ben takes steroids.
As Bill has stated, he is no fool and very health conscious. I'm sure he knows how toxic steroids are, and pharmaceuticals in general.
(I think he's on the wrong kind of diet though, being a big meat eater, which probably inflames his temper; hopefully he will get wise to that as well, before too long.)
His intentional community is near to Observer Ranch, which is high in the Rockies in Penrose, Colorado, and should be safe.
He posts all kinds of information about what is going on at Observer Ranch on more than one of the many online sites where he posts and he lists those sites regularly under his youtube videos, so that would logically be a topic he would prefer not to have to waste time on in the Q&A videos.
I have never seen Ben in a "wife-beating" T shirt. I think you should back up a claim like that with evidence.
I think we will be seeing much less "salt" from Ben upcoming, now that the divorce is settled.
He looked drained during his last Q&A, but much more relaxed than I have ever seen him.
But thanks for starting this thread--I think the outcome was pretty satisfactory.


I’ve been following Ben for 10+ years but lately he is:

Angry all the time (his divorce and steroids may be behind this)
- lashes out at posters for petty things
- has little patience with questions about his “science” (“do the homework!”)
- has fantasies about “teal pears”

Pushes his money-maker “Observers Ranch” (OR) on every post (but will not take questions about it, typically)
- my analysis shows the OR location is not as safe as Ben claims (better locations in the interior of Colorado)
- seems the location is really Public relations and making money, not the ultimate “safe” location (which I think is hidden)

Ben seems to have gone full-on Christian Radical: wearing prominent crosses, wife-beater undershirts, ranting about “Denver sucking” and its Satanic tendencies, adopting a crazy-eye “Rasputin” stare into the camera.

I used to think this guy was the real deal…not so sure anymore.

…I still listen to almost every short video he posts, tho. The long ones are too irritating, so no, not watching.

I’d appreciate any feedback from the forum.

Casey Claar
13th June 2025, 20:37
talk of the devil

Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

* I'm posting this without listening to it first.


The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson (https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/e/1749551253?t=323)
1 hour 43 minutes - Posted Jun 10, 2025


Show notes
Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.

This was an interesting interview and I heard something interesting. he says control of weather is "horse ****" at about 58 minutes. I see in the collective discussions various factions of informers who seek to confuse us so we basically have a fractured "intent". He is in this one sentence telling me he is instilling something.

IF we as humans cannot "control" forces, then we cannot effect anything. But IF we CAN and have been and thus have caused various repercussions, then IF these machinations end and the effects end, VERY differnt focus of intent.

He is a tool as all influencers are IMO.

Delight,

Ben does not deny weather modification, that is mainstream news at this point and almost utterly out in the open. What he says, and I say this having listened to multiple hundreds of hours on his views, is that not all trails in the sky are chemical trails, the type designed to modify weather. What he is likely also addressing in his comment is (a pet peeve of his that he gets bombarded with hourly) the idea that MAN can control / is responsible for what more fundamentally are natural cycles, notably the point(s) in the cycles where Earth experiences the mini and macro ice ages -what we call "climate change". These are well known events, - the Younger Dryas, the Carrington Event, etc.. which can be researched. It is not unknown to us that these have occurred. It is Ben's view, and I must say my own that these are NATURAL cycles not caused by human activity. Our activity while incarnate is relevant to the Earth we ourselves experience while incarnate, as well as our own growth potential, and ultimately graduation from the 3RD gradient to the 4TH -- but it does not alter the curriculum itself or the semesters/cycles the curriculum is covered through, ie: when they begin and end. Public speaking is not easy, the words said, why we have said them, is not always necessarily made clear in simple podcasts. The Bret Weinstein interview Onawah posted is VERY good. I hope more interviewers of Bret's caliber step up to speak to Ben. It is when he comes through at his very best, which is something I do hope more people can see.

Casey Claar
13th June 2025, 21:55
Bill, I thought you might like to weigh in on the thread here:https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1672192&viewfull=1#post1672192
And please don't miss Casey's informative post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1672235&viewfull=1#post1672235Yes. The new thread asked: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

I'm going to quote Casey's post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1672235&viewfull=1#post1672235)here, because I entirely agree. :)




It is opportune to say something at this point.

Ben began reporting daily, and I want to emphasize this - DAILY - in roughly 2008.

Back in the beginning, it was just REPORTING, no live-streaming or "salt". No-one really knew who Ben was, his age, or what he looked like, he was just a voice, - a voice reporting HIGHLY INTERESTING things about the sun's daily activity. He had his eye on something, but I couldn't say for sure when the moment came that even he knew exactly what that was. But when he was sure, when he felt certain, he stepped out in front of camera and began to let everyone know. Goodness -he is barely 40 now, to think he was in his very early 20s when he began his daily reports (which used to be much longer and pure raw data) it blows my mind. Anyone with this kind of discipline has my genuine respect. When, just recently in the last year or two Ben started the live-streams, and people SO easily began donating to him I felt he had earned this, every single penny. Again, I will say, he has a decidedly certain skill. He observed the patterns religiously, hours on end, day in and day out for decades and a potential, and even probability presented to him. He has honed his skill for decades, his dedication to collecting incoming data consistently in real time is to me quite clear (regardless of the in front of the camera persona he also began sharing). His work had at this point gained a foothold of deep appreciation in me. I am far more alert to the sun, the magnetic poles and magnetosphere than I ever would have been otherwise. I have been able to use this data to quite successfully help myself, as I age, and also my elderly care clients. I won't go into details, but what the sun is doing is very important to our health, notably our heart health and increased incidence of stroke (all highly important to those I care for).

The entire body of Ben's work is online and on his youtube channel. If it were not important, this work, I would not point this out. Like the man or not what he is doing is important. He is young, and like the rest of us he will make mistakes. The most beneficial thing any one of us can do for him, our fellow man, is see him in the highest light, for the greatest good of one and all. This is what will bring just this more out of him. It is not an easy experience, being known to millions of people, his life experience is now connected to everything we think and feel of him. Help him be more successful/beneficial than not, while lifting yourself in the process by sending nothing but the best in thought-streams out into the ocean in which we all swim.

I am sending my advance gratitude out to you all :heart:

CaseyI'll say it more simply (and far less elegantly!): I have no concern about Ben's personality, his personal affairs, or what he may or may not be doing at the Observer Ranch.

I'm only interested in the data he reports, which I'm as sure as I can be might be very important. As some of you may be aware, 6 months ago in November 2024 I received a strong clear message (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-&p=1643336&viewfull=1#post1643336) — twice! — from an unknown invisible source, that a major solar event would strike and incapacitate the US in (I believe) early 2029.

While I can't possibly know for sure if that will happen (let alone prove the 'reality' of my experience!), it all felt extremely vivid, real and plausible to me. Moreover. it's 100% consistent with the level of increased solar activity Ben Davidson has been predicting for a while now. That's why I follow his updates daily.

:flower:

Thank you, Bill, direct and to the point is GOOD.

I would like to continue on what you have said, as it relates to what I, myself, have seen -as experienced in the out of body state -and learned as a direct result.

It is likely that many of us who follow Ben's progress and data have in some way, form or fashion received data relevant to what he, himself, has his eye on. In my case, in the 4 year period of time (2009-2013) in which I was going out of body regularly, multiple times weekly, one of the things I was shown were the tsunamis impacting the West Coast of California. I had three such experiences within weeks of each other, the first of which I was placed directly within. Meaning I experienced it "physically", real as could be. I achieved the necessary realization a mere instant before the wall of water took me, so I did not "die". What I did experience I am still working diligently to fully process. However, in its regard I can say this. There is an Event that is in play concerning our planet and its current student body.

Relevant to the current student body, there are 3 basic groups of people here:


Those aiming to survive the end of the current semester/cycle to begin repopulating and educating the new incoming wave of 3D Earth experiencers

Those completing their 3D Earth sojourn and continuing, potentially elsewhere their 3D learning-cycle

Those apt to graduate/satisfy their 3D experience requirement who, through the Event currently in play, will carry their Memory with them into the next gradient


There is no hierarchy within these basic groups, it is just good to have an idea of where you are in the scheme of all this, and to not create an unnecessary dichotomy between groups. We each, and all have our role. All are valid, and necessary. This said, there not many of us in groups #1 and #3, the vast majority are of the #2 group. And, this said, the reason that those like Ben (clearly in group #1), Bill (probable #3 group), myself and others come forward to share our information. It is so that the spectrum-of-possibility can be seen/identified, so that each of us presently here can properly focus into what g l o w s the most for them. The growth potential that exists in all this is truly beyond what we may be able to imagine. I know that even what I have experienced this far into it, staggers my ability to justly comprehend, and I am certain this is only a fragment of a fragment of what is possible.

Let's see where everyone wants to go from here.


{ { { Wide open space } } }



Casey


________________________


Tsunami report @ 23:57
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Delight
13th June 2025, 23:51
talk of the devil

Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

* I'm posting this without listening to it first.


The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson (https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/e/1749551253?t=323)
1 hour 43 minutes - Posted Jun 10, 2025


Show notes
Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.

This was an interesting interview and I heard something interesting. he says control of weather is "horse ****" at about 58 minutes. I see in the collective discussions various factions of informers who seek to confuse us so we basically have a fractured "intent". He is in this one sentence telling me he is instilling something.

IF we as humans cannot "control" forces, then we cannot effect anything. But IF we CAN and have been and thus have caused various repercussions, then IF these machinations end and the effects end, VERY differnt focus of intent.

He is a tool as all influencers are IMO.

Delight,

Ben does not deny weather modification, that is mainstream news at this point and almost utterly out in the open. What he says, and I say this having listened to multiple hundreds of hours on his views, is that not all trails in the sky are chemical trails, the type designed to modify weather. What he is likely also addressing in his comment is (a pet peeve of his that he gets bombarded with hourly) the idea that MAN can control / is responsible for what more fundamentally are natural cycles, notably the point(s) in the cycles where Earth experiences the mini and macro ice ages -what we call "climate change". These are well known events, - the Younger Dryas, the Carrington Event, etc.. which can be researched. It is not unknown to us that these have occurred. It is Ben's view, and I must say my own that these are NATURAL cycles not caused by human activity. Our activity while incarnate is relevant to the Earth we ourselves experience while incarnate, as well as our own growth potential, and ultimately graduation from the 3RD gradient to the 4TH -- but it does not alter the curriculum itself or the semesters/cycles the curriculum is covered through, ie: when they begin and end. Public speaking is not easy, the words said, why we have said them, is not always necessarily made clear in simple podcasts. The Bret Weinstein interview Onawah posted is VERY good. I hope more interviewers of Bret's caliber step up to speak to Ben. It is when he comes through at his very best, which is something I do hope more people can see.

"They can't control the weather. They can't control earthquakes. All the stuff you hear on the internet is complete horse ****. Complete horse ****. They can cloud seed and make it rain if the raincloud is there to begin with. They can't make one out of nowhere. They can block a fraction of sunlight with aerosl spraying up in the stratosphere. But that does not leave white lines....... We are ants... They are not able to do much to be honest with you. they'd like to think so, or they would like us to think so." (from 58 minutes)

He then goes on to say that they don't care what we blame as long as it is not nature. He seems invested in promoting it is all nature.

However, I have seen very credible evidence IN PERSON that white lines appear, the sky goes "white" then rains come. I have seen radar patterns displayed (or some measurement) that precedes hurricane formation seeming to develop out of "no where". The thing is, I am no expert on weather but there is something quite peculiar and coincidental about SOME weather extremes.

I heard Onawah's message that maybe I should go off and be on new age forums. I am not "into" interacting with channels, guides and other astral activities. IMO I am a human being and that means I can learn to manage the holographic field of my own. I am going to keep posting here and I KNOW that there are quite a few people like me who are NOT new age and also disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia. However, TIME will tell and I will not stop thinking woo as I see fit.

For me, the anticipation that we have had weather modification tech deployed including steering huricanes and (maybe) creating hurricane conditions means we could STOP doing it. To anticipate that deluges of floods and drought have been modulated by tech means we could STOP that activity. same for triggering earthquakes. At anyrate, all the aerosols SHOULD be stopped.

I really do think strongly that "reality" has shattered and the shards are clung to by various people. I do NOT think the world is what we are told and the Apocalypse is opening the truth. It is weirder and more wonderful than we are told to believe.

On a different note, why are all those who are waiting for the sun to micronova NOT enmasse headed to the nearest government offices to take over the underground facilities. If I thought this is eminent, I would be constantly posting about demanding they be opened. All kinds of underground installations exist in the US but no one is heard demanding they be opened.

Time will tell and I am sure I am just as entitled to my POV as the catastrophists.

RunningDeer
14th June 2025, 01:10
I heard Onawah's message that maybe I should go off and be on new age forums. I am not "into" interacting with channels, guides and other astral activities. IMO I am a human being and that means I can learn to manage the holographic field of my own. I am going to keep posting here and I KNOW that there are quite a few people like me who are NOT new age and also disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia. However, TIME will tell and I will not stop thinking woo as I see fit.




Hello Maggie. https://i.imgur.com/pJjXOzt.gif

I’ve mentioned many times before, I truly appreciate what you share. Much of it resonates deeply with me—not because I align with any New Age label, but because it reflects lived experiences from my own life, well before that term ever existed. I've seen, felt, survived, and understood through my own journey that I am a Creator. I am here to create for myself and to create with others.

:heart:


***********************

I used to listen to the Ben reports, but I stopped after a while. I realized I was starting to take on his views instead of trusting my own. It made me start doubting my own creative power. I'm not here to change the whole world — I'm here to live my part.


***********************

I’ve shared two tsunami dreams on other threads.

August 11, 2024 - Fake tsunami


https://i.imgur.com/eN4yetB.png

I had a dream last evening of a fake tsunami. I’m not sure if it was me or another that said, “Wake up. Get up.” The ’get up’ part was to break out of the dream so I’d remember. It was confirmation that this world is an illusion. Do not be ensnared by the noise of the 3D.

The dream flashed in my mind several times this morning. The image wasn’t even a convincing piece of artwork readying to crash upon all the screaming bodies trying to out run the tsunami curtain.

I turned to the storm and spoke with knowing: “It’s fake.”

I stood my ground. The wave dissolved into something pitiful: water trickling out of a few scattered holes.

The dream was a call to remember how much creative power we hold in this space—within and all around us.


***********************

May 20, 2025 - tsunami wave

I kept having recall of the dream of a tsunami wave. My loved ones patiently wait for me to do something as our home was about to be swallowed up. I held my hands up and simply told it to stop. The windows held firm and not a single drop crept beneath the door.

The power lay in sacred timing. A moment I could not anticipate, only recognize when it arrived. It was a lesson in stillness, in surrender to the presence that dwells deep within—the ancient, watchful part of me that waits in silence, always ready to awaken.

Harmony
14th June 2025, 02:47
I so appreciate everyones perspective, :heart: I can relate to them all in some way. Please everyone keep posting your own deep feelings about how you see and deeply "feel" our reality, I think it is very, very, important :shooting star:

Casey Claar
14th June 2025, 03:51
talk of the devil

Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

* I'm posting this without listening to it first.


The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson (https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/e/1749551253?t=323)
1 hour 43 minutes - Posted Jun 10, 2025


Show notes
Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.

This was an interesting interview and I heard something interesting. he says control of weather is "horse ****" at about 58 minutes. I see in the collective discussions various factions of informers who seek to confuse us so we basically have a fractured "intent". He is in this one sentence telling me he is instilling something.

IF we as humans cannot "control" forces, then we cannot effect anything. But IF we CAN and have been and thus have caused various repercussions, then IF these machinations end and the effects end, VERY differnt focus of intent.

He is a tool as all influencers are IMO.

Delight,

Ben does not deny weather modification, that is mainstream news at this point and almost utterly out in the open. What he says, and I say this having listened to multiple hundreds of hours on his views, is that not all trails in the sky are chemical trails, the type designed to modify weather. What he is likely also addressing in his comment is (a pet peeve of his that he gets bombarded with hourly) the idea that MAN can control / is responsible for what more fundamentally are natural cycles, notably the point(s) in the cycles where Earth experiences the mini and macro ice ages -what we call "climate change". These are well known events, - the Younger Dryas, the Carrington Event, etc.. which can be researched. It is not unknown to us that these have occurred. It is Ben's view, and I must say my own that these are NATURAL cycles not caused by human activity. Our activity while incarnate is relevant to the Earth we ourselves experience while incarnate, as well as our own growth potential, and ultimately graduation from the 3RD gradient to the 4TH -- but it does not alter the curriculum itself or the semesters/cycles the curriculum is covered through, ie: when they begin and end. Public speaking is not easy, the words said, why we have said them, is not always necessarily made clear in simple podcasts. The Bret Weinstein interview Onawah posted is VERY good. I hope more interviewers of Bret's caliber step up to speak to Ben. It is when he comes through at his very best, which is something I do hope more people can see.

"They can't control the weather. They can't control earthquakes. All the stuff you hear on the internet is complete horse ****. Complete horse ****. They can cloud seed and make it rain if the raincloud is there to begin with. They can't make one out of nowhere. They can block a fraction of sunlight with aerosl spraying up in the stratosphere. But that does not leave white lines....... We are ants... They are not able to do much to be honest with you. they'd like to think so, or they would like us to think so." (from 58 minutes)

He then goes on to say that they don't care what we blame as long as it is not nature. He seems invested in promoting it is all nature.

However, I have seen very credible evidence IN PERSON that white lines appear, the sky goes "white" then rains come. I have seen radar patterns displayed (or some measurement) that precedes hurricane formation seeming to develop out of "no where". The thing is, I am no expert on weather but there is something quite peculiar and coincidental about SOME weather extremes.

I heard Onawah's message that maybe I should go off and be on new age forums. I am not "into" interacting with channels, guides and other astral activities. IMO I am a human being and that means I can learn to manage the holographic field of my own. I am going to keep posting here and I KNOW that there are quite a few people like me who are NOT new age and also disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia. However, TIME will tell and I will not stop thinking woo as I see fit.

For me, the anticipation that we have had weather modification tech deployed including steering huricanes and (maybe) creating hurricane conditions means we could STOP doing it. To anticipate that deluges of floods and drought have been modulated by tech means we could STOP that activity. same for triggering earthquakes. At anyrate, all the aerosols SHOULD be stopped.

I really do think strongly that "reality" has shattered and the shards are clung to by various people. I do NOT think the world is what we are told and the Apocalypse is opening the truth. It is weirder and more wonderful than we are told to believe.

On a different note, why are all those who are waiting for the sun to micronova NOT enmasse headed to the nearest government offices to take over the underground facilities. If I thought this is eminent, I would be constantly posting about demanding they be opened. All kinds of underground installations exist in the US but no one is heard demanding they be opened.

Time will tell and I am sure I am just as entitled to my POV as the catastrophists.

Hello, Delight, and thank you for your reply.

First please let me say that I do not know anything about what others have said of you and what you share. Aside from the part about Ben being a "tool" along with all "influencers" I find what you've said perfectly reasonable. And we are all entitled to our point of view. I just don't feel that what you've said is exactly oppositional to what Ben has said. Ben is aware of the creative power of consciousness. Listening to more than just a blurb from a single talk will ultimately reveal this. It is important to remember, I feel, when listening to anyone deeply studied in a certain subject, that they have FAR more data from which they are formatting their view than do we. Ben reads, studies and analyzes EVERY scientific paper put out on the sun and space weather, for instance, whereas I do not. He knows and can more accurately recognize what is going on up in our skies than can I as a result. So, I take in his data openly, and then as time allows begin my own research on the data. Beginning with the scientific papers he has so diligently been bringing to our daily attention for decades -and what others are saying about these papers. Ben, like Avalon, is an exceptional resource. I can find everything I need, by way of a decent starting place from which to begin my own research right there on his page when it comes specifically to his subject of expertise. Just as I can come here to discover just about anything under the sun going on our planet. Which I trust to all of you to bring forward, as my primary eye is in another field, the data from which, in exchange, I gladly bring to all of you.

I feel it important to note, that not every trail in the sky is what we've been calling a "chemtrail". I must admit, prior to hearing Ben say this, I did principally take most every trail up there to be this. He knocked me good with that statement! lol. It is so easy to get carried away with an idea, ideas we often fail to study on our own in order to learn in greater accuracy. I thank him for knocking some quick sense in to me. I am glad I was tuned in to his stream that day and did not click off before I heard it. This is how we ALL keep each other in check. I will continue to thank goodness for each and every one of you.

Let's go back to what you've quoted Ben saying:


"They can't control the weather. They can't control earthquakes. All the stuff you hear on the internet is complete horse ****. Complete horse ****. They can cloud seed and make it rain if the raincloud is there to begin with. They can't make one out of nowhere. They can block a fraction of sunlight with aerosl spraying up in the stratosphere. But that does not leave white lines....... We are ants... They are not able to do much to be honest with you. they'd like to think so, or they would like us to think so."


And what you started by saying next:

"He then goes on to say that they don't care what we blame as long as it is not nature. He seems invested in promoting it is all nature."

And to begin what I, myself, would say in continuing >>

Consciousness and The Nature thereof is fundamentally ALL we are experiencing. Ben seems to have a grasp of this. Not many of us yet do. Consciousness and Nature are what are in charge here. I concur. This is all there is of what we like to call "us". Yet we like to separate ourselves from this. Assign a sort of control of our own. Which in a sense is accurate, and in a sense is not. It is for each one of us to begin to glean in which sense it is founded, and in which sense it is without any foundation whatsoever. I might say it is accurate when synchronous and harmonious which That which is essentially being us, and not when in any way oppositional to this. It is accurate when a sharable wave/idea is achieved, and not accurate when the wave, idea, that which is attempting to be done is less than what is in the best interest of one and all. Without the shareable wave one is quite impotent (there is only so far they can take that idea). I feel this is what Ben is referencing when he quite rightly diminishes the power of those behind some of the trails in our skies. People tend to like to think the proverbial "they" are so powerful. I would agree with Ben, they are not. Those achieving the SHAREABLE wave are. Most of what is fed to us is smoke and mirrors. The "all powerful Oz" behind the curtain. Many of us do like to sustain that illusion. One of the many ways we do this is by thinking "they" are more capable than they are. Like he says, they just love for us to believe this.

All this, to be clear, is not to say there are not [ - ] types out there doing what they are.

Only to say their impact is nominal, yet also equivalent to what we collectively believe.

Great, great care must be taken.


:heart:

Casey Claar
14th June 2025, 03:53
I so appreciate everyones perspective, :heart: I can relate to them all in some way. Please everyone keep posting your own deep feelings about how you see and deeply feel" our reality, I think it is very, very, important :shooting star:

This bears repeating.

Casey Claar
14th June 2025, 04:30
I’ve shared two tsunami dreams on other threads.

August 11, 2024 - Fake tsunami


https://i.imgur.com/eN4yetB.png

I had a dream last evening of a fake tsunami. I’m not sure if it was me or another that said, “Wake up. Get up.” The ’get up’ part was to break out of the dream so I’d remember. It was confirmation that this world is an illusion. Do not be ensnared by the noise of the 3D.

The dream flashed in my mind several times this morning. The image wasn’t even a convincing piece of artwork readying to crash upon all the screaming bodies trying to out run the tsunami curtain.

I turned to the storm and spoke with knowing: “It’s fake.”

I stood my ground. The wave dissolved into something pitiful: water trickling out of a few scattered holes.

The dream was a call to remember how much creative power we hold in this space—within and all around us.


***********************


I thank you dearly for sharing this, RunningDear!

When I shared my own tsunami report a few posts back and mentioned having made the necessary realization in time to not "die" in that event it was along this same line -- not that it was fake, exactly, but that all of what we like to call "reality" IS A DREAM. I realized I was in the inner fields, that I could therefore take in data from a wide array of the fields. I became the Ocean (in which I literally was in that event and) in which all that is, is taking place. I cannot process all that data through my 3D Earth human consciousness. But it impacts me in exciting and relevant ways in present time.

I feel two primary things that come to me, as applies specifically here to what we are saying:


There is a difference in what we can do in a private reality, to that which is probable in a consensus space. I cannot stop Nature and the cycles of time as an incarnate here in 3D Earth space. But what I can do is make the necessary realization, emphasis on REALIZATION in time to surf the end of a cycle into a new paradigm (a new grade/gradient). I am indeed aiming at just this.


I do not feel, or suspect that many of us will actually experience much of the "end", the cataclysmic part of the current cycle and beginning of the next. Most will shift prior to this, either through the normal avenue (death), or seamless shift into another branch of the Overall life experience. I have experienced first hand in OBE states how our discrete consciousness is made to seamlessly shift into realities, seemingly without any break at all in its sense of continuity. It just seems as though "there" is where we have always been. Consciousness truly is astounding. We will enjoy exploring it for a long, long time to come.

onawah
14th June 2025, 06:32
Delight, I did not suggest that maybe you should go off and be on New Age forums.
I wasn't "shoulding" you.
I was just inquiring why you remain on Avalon where so much of what we focus on here is what many might consider to be "fear porn", but imho is more just about what is happening in the world today which is not healthy or wise, such as wars, depopulation agendas, transhumanisn, the NWO, alien abduction, etc.

(Speaking for myself, I consider it a service that many of us are engaged in by bringing to light things that need to be dealt with, which the mainstream media usually either ignores, obfuscates, or altogether misrepresents.
Is see it as a kind of Karma Yoga, a role that may be taken on as part of spiritual practice. )

What I actually wrote was this:

"It would be difficult to find any threads on the forum these days that aren't part of what you seem to be unwilling to admit to your reality, Delight.
It makes me wonder why you haven't abandoned Avalon for some much more New Agey venue.
The news from around the world is hardly blissful these days, at least not what Avalon members are looking at for the most part."

...And I also wrote this, though I've reworded it a bit:
"I used to try to live in a kind of New Age bubble that filtered out realities I didn't want to admit were real.
But I feel a lot more grounded now that I realized how naive I was being, and finally got through the stages of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and on to acceptance.
Denial can be addictive, and I wanted so much to believe that the Golden Age was right around the corner and something miraculous and wonderful was going to happen soon to make everything clearly start to come right, within my lifetime, and for the whole world.

I didn't want to admit it when it came to Ben's information, but I couldn't deny my intuitive feeling that he was onto something, and once my spirit guides informed me that my own suspicions based on his were correct, I had to bite the bullet.
My spirit guides don't speak to me very often, but when they do I listen, because so far, they haven't been wrong."

***************

You wrote:

I heard Onawah's message that maybe I should go off and be on new age forums. I am not "into" interacting with channels, guides and other astral activities. IMO I am a human being and that means I can learn to manage the holographic field of my own. I am going to keep posting here and I KNOW that there are quite a few people like me who are NOT new age and also disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia. However, TIME will tell and I will not stop thinking woo as I see fit.

You wrote that you "disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia."
The original subject of this thread (though it has certainly strayed a bit off topic) is whether Ben Davidson is starting to run a doomsday cult.

Another subject which has come up in this thread is dreams and visions.
They can influence us one way or another, from fearful to beautific.
But dreams and visions and scientific data are very different things, though they may dovetail.
What we may want to believe about this physical plane, and how it actually manifests-- in patterns and cycles that can be described and predicted by various means, based on various disciplines including mathematical, geological, historical, and astrophysical-- are also very different things.

Spirituality should also be included in that list of disciplines; for example the Hindu cosmology, which has described in great detail the various ages, or Yugas, of both Light and Darkness, which the Universe transverses throughout eternity, and what transpires in each.
Even though in the final analysis, it can also be said that it's all just an Illusion, except for "the One", the Creator, God, or whatever name you choose.
And though the Dark Ages are definitely not pleasant in the physical manifestations, even in those times there may be enlightened beings who lead the Way to that Oneness.

But all have their place within this Illusion, and when prophets, visionaries, clairvoyants, etc. foresee what is destined to happen in the future that also corresponds to what science and logical reasoning describe as well, and the former prove to be right, there is a meeting ground that can be very enlightening.
But it's important to keep both in their proper place and perspective, since both have worth and fulfill a role.

The documented information that has been shared here by me and others about what Ben Davidson has shared as a credible and knowledgable scientific researcher isn't "mental projections aimed at catastrophobia".
I'm not sure if that was what you were inferring, but you seem to dismiss such scientific data as if it has no value on the physical reality that is currentaly 3D Earth.
Or perhaps you are just positing that it may be affecting others, but that it's not affecting you.
You also seem to infer that anyone who accepts such scientific data (even when it corresponds to prophecies and visions) as being credible and worthy of consideration in their understanding of this physical reality, are simply being misled, or misleading themselves.
Is that a true assessment?
I am not attempting to be dismissive of your stance, but I'm not really sure what your stance is, so I hope you will clarify.
I'm also not really sure that you understand what my stance is.

I don't know what more I can say to assure you that I am not living in some kind of existential mental hell because I think the data about the solar cycles is accurate.
Or how to assure you that I'm not living in fear because of my acknowledgement of the worth of such scientific data.
On the contrary, I am actually living in less fear than I was before, when I was working very hard to keep my logical mind from interfering with my wishful thinking. ...With my emotions constantly trying to substitute my logical reasoning with more "positive thinking", however unreasonable that thinking might have been.
It just created a never ending battle between two sides that I had created within myself, a battle which was very ungrounding and exhausting.

The acceptance of this fragile physical reality that I feel now is not based in fear or denial, it's just grounded in what is, and that for me does include the spiritual level as well as the material level of this reality.
They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
It's a kind of equilibrium that I had been wanting to attain since my younger years when I first began practicing Zen meditation, and studying that POV.
My current state of mind may not be Nirvanic, but it's definitely not consisting of senseless"mental projections aimed at catastrophobia", and I don't think that is Ben's state of mind either.
I think he's too busy doing what he set out to do, which is to save as many lives as he can, and as Casey said, sincerely living the "hero's journey" to the best of his ability.

Peace to you. :flower:

onawah
14th June 2025, 10:21
You might find it interesting to listen to this interview of Ben:
https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/e/1749551253?t=323
I think you will discover he's a lot different than you imagine, maybe not your cup of tea, but certainly interesting and unique.
His training as a lawyer probably puts a lot of people off, but his reason for becoming a lawyer wasn't at all what motivates most lawyers, but it's served him well in learning how to succeed in the System.
But he's very much an idealist and uses that knowledge as an idealist does, not an opportunist.
He is very clued in to the occult, the NWO and how many Satanists there are operating and controlling behind the scenes, and what their game plan and mindset is, though he's not really very afraid of them.
I find his take on what goes on between the "white hats" and "black hats" and what's in the Bible and the Book of Enoch, etc. interesting.
So he's very canny, and has high moral standards even though he doesn't suffer fools gladly (exept apparently James Delingpole, who is actually a "Flat Earther" :facepalm: )
He was a chess champion as a child, beating even high school champions, is a speed reader with a highly retentive memory, obviously brilliant with a very high IQ, and is very driven, with a sort of hyperactive but very focused mind.
I don't imagine he's easy to get along with, and obviously has a very ironic, sardonic sense of humor, but I think he's kind of fascinating. :nerd:



Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.


This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

I already admitted it's not much of a contribution!:)

Johnnycomelately
14th June 2025, 10:56
Nah, this guy's kind of a spaz.

Dear Sis, gotta evaluate people on how they act, not how they tickle your fun/truth sensors.


You might find it interesting to listen to this interview of Ben:
https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/e/1749551253?t=323
I think you will discover he's a lot different than you imagine, maybe not your cup of tea, but certainly interesting and unique.
His training as a lawyer probably puts a lot of people off, but his reason for becoming a lawyer wasn't at all what motivates most lawyers, but it's served him well in learning how to succeed in the System.
But he's very much an idealist and uses that knowledge as an idealist does, not an opportunist.
He is very clued in to the occult, the NWO and how many Satanists there are operating and controlling behind the scenes, and what their game plan and mindset is, though he's not really very afraid of them.
I find his take on what goes on between the "white hats" and "black hats" and what's in the Bible and the Book of Enoch, etc. is right on.
So he's very canny, and has high moral standards even though he doesn't suffer fools gladly.
He was a chess champion as a child, beating even high school champions, is a speed reader with a highly retentive memory, obviously brilliant with a very high IQ, an extremely retentive memory, and is very driven, with a sort of hyperactive but very focused mind.
I don't imagine he's easy to get along with, and obviously has a very ironic sense of humor, but he's pretty fascinating. :nerd:



Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.


This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

I already admitted it's not much of a contribution!:)

onawah
14th June 2025, 11:02
Did you listen to the interview with James Delingpole?
It's pretty interesting and it's not just an intellectual discussion, it's an interaction between two very different kinds of personalities.


Nah, this guy's kind of a spaz.

Dear Sis, gotta evaluate people on how they act, not how they tickle your fun/truth sensors.


You might find it interesting to listen to this interview of Ben:
https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/e/1749551253?t=323
I think you will discover he's a lot different than you imagine, maybe not your cup of tea, but certainly interesting and unique.
His training as a lawyer probably puts a lot of people off, but his reason for becoming a lawyer wasn't at all what motivates most lawyers, but it's served him well in learning how to succeed in the System.
But he's very much an idealist and uses that knowledge as an idealist does, not an opportunist.
He is very clued in to the occult, the NWO and how many Satanists there are operating and controlling behind the scenes, and what their game plan and mindset is, though he's not really very afraid of them.
I find his take on what goes on between the "white hats" and "black hats" and what's in the Bible and the Book of Enoch, etc. is right on.
So he's very canny, and has high moral standards even though he doesn't suffer fools gladly.
He was a chess champion as a child, beating even high school champions, is a speed reader with a highly retentive memory, obviously brilliant with a very high IQ, an extremely retentive memory, and is very driven, with a sort of hyperactive but very focused mind.
I don't imagine he's easy to get along with, and obviously has a very ironic sense of humor, but he's pretty fascinating. :nerd:



Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.


This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

I already admitted it's not much of a contribution!:)

Bill Ryan
14th June 2025, 11:58
Nah, this guy's kind of a spaz.

Dear Sis, gotta evaluate people on how they actNo, in this kind of situation we gotta evaluate people on the value of the data they present.

lightpotential
14th June 2025, 12:03
Suspicious observers has indeed ended up a bit... suspicious.
I dont know much about prices in USA but 65-100 dollars to sleep one night in a caravan seems a bit much for me .
Starts to give Harold Camping vibes who endlessly kept predicting when the world will end and made millions while doing so from the poor suckers who believed him.
Information he gives is certainly interesting but that he tries to sell some merchandise etc while doing it is a bit off putting.

And some have called him a cult leader a long time ago . (im not a big fan of that professor dave ,he seems like a gatekeeper but he does make a couple of good points in this video ).
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As much as Professor Dave (from ‘Professor Dave Explains’ YouTube channel) is a smarmy cock, I do believe there is some truth to what he says about Ben not fully understanding the scientific papers that he cites for his videos. His videos are mostly brief and when he speaks he does not really appear to demonstrate a keen insight into many of the topics that he brings up.

He just presents things, and gives a supreme air of confidence that he fully understands what they mean, and that the explanation that he gives is absolutely correct. That is my impression of him.

I did once have a private e-mail exchange with him, albeit very brief, about seven years ago. He really did demonstrate a bad attitude, when I asked him to consider a certain line of research. I have never contacted him since.

With regard to the 12,000 year cycle that he mentions, I think that it is entirely fictitious. He ties it to the end of the Younger Dryas period, circa 12,800 years ago or 10,800 BC. There was indeed a disaster that occurred at this time, but it was tied in to a very special planetary alignment. That was the real cause.

It is a celestial pattern that is recurring, and on a cycle far shorter than 12,000 years. This is detailed on my website with the following essay:

https://www.lostagesecrets.com/The-Great-Year-World-Ages.html

It was this connection that I attempted to bring to Ben's attention. Just merely suggesting it caused quite an antagonistic response.

Keith

onawah
14th June 2025, 19:09
Another great post, Casey. Thanks :nod:
As Ben has pointed out, the fact that the elites have spent untold stolen sums of taxpayer dollars to build their DUMBS without realizing how unsafe they will be when the ground really starts moving is certainly testimony to their level of capability. :sad:
Not to mention the building of other bolt holes near coastlines :facepalm:.

I think one of Ben's problems with communicating is probably that his brain retains such a huge quantity of information with so many dots continually being connected. It can come rushing out at so rapid a pace it's difficult for most people to keep up, so he may end up feeling like he's in a kind of void.
I just hope that there will be people at the Observer Ranch events and joining his community who can keep up, and supply good feedback and support to keep the pressure at a minimum.
Mentally, he probably feels like an Olympic swimmer surrounded by dog paddlers much of the time.


People tend to like to think the proverbial "they" are so powerful. I would agree with Ben, they are not. Those achieving the SHAREABLE wave are. Most of what is fed to us is smoke and mirrors. The "all powerful Oz" behind the curtain. Many of us do like to sustain that illusion. One of the many ways we do this is by thinking "they" are more capable than they are. Like he says, they just love for us to believe this.


PS--agreed-- the discussion with Bret Weinstein is very worthwhile...

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neutronstar
14th June 2025, 23:17
Yes, but in this case the data he is presenting is not necessarily what he believes.

A few years ago I was reading through some comments on a video that Doug Vogt put out. I can't remember which one. A person asked Doug about the differences that Ben has with what is about to happen. Doug replied by saying that Ben believes Doug's version of what will happen, but can't say that because the scientists that Ben is getting information from would stop talking to him. Doug said he understands, Ben has a family to support and this is how he makes his living.

I listen to what Ben has to say on the science side(with discernment), not the ask me anything live streams. I can't get through more than a few minutes. He has some deep emotional issues. But what gets my conspiratorial mind going is why would the scientist run if he said he agrees with Doug's version of events to come?

Doug's version comes mostly with receipts. I also believe Doug is probably closer to the truth.

I have my own thoughts on Ben but will keep them to myself because it is all speculation, but I believe there is a lot more to this story that what we are told.

Casey Claar
15th June 2025, 00:04
I listen to what Ben has to say on the science side(with discernment), not the ask me anything live streams.

I find this wise --the live-streams are mostly, and perhaps best for those who have an existing handle on his interpretation(s) of the data. And who can put up with the certain lack of tact.

Do you want to give us a thumbnail version of Doug Vogt's rundown? and how/where it differs from Ben's?

Thanks!!

onawah
15th June 2025, 00:49
Where it seems Ben drew the line with the research from the late Doug Vogt:

From: https://dieholdfoundation.com/#

You may wonder why a science foundation whose goals are to study the causes of the ice ages and polar reversals and develop an information theory of existence would get involved in studying the Torah, Bible, Old Testament. The reasons are what the founder discovered about the Hebrew Alphabet. He also discovered that the exact number of years between geomagnetic reversals was embedded as code in the surface story of the Torah. The second discovery was that the Hebrew alphabet and the Torah are the product of a very highly advanced previous civilization that had the same information theory of existence as the one we are developing, the Theory of Multidimensional Reality. There is much more to the whole explanation, and the books and videos present the whole story
The Hebrew Alphabet is the Key

After eight years of research and testing, our founder discovered that the Hebrew alphabet is the result of 22 views of a waveform that is a modified square wave. This waveform is superimposed on a toroid shape that represents how a carbon atom modulates into this dimension. This part of our research is found in the book Creation of the Hebrew Alphabet. The Library of Congress indexed this book, Quantum Computing, and that is exactly what is described in the book. The Hebrew alphabet and the Torah are the products of a very highly advanced previous civilization that once lived on the Earth. The important part of this research is that this advanced civilization must have had the same information philosophy of existence as explained in the Theory of Multidimensional Reality, or else Mr. Vogt could not have discovered its origin. Abraham purchased the Cave of Machpelah not just as a burial site but really because of the technology found deep inside.


More here: http://thedieholdfoundation.com/index.html


Yes, but in this case the data he is presenting is not necessarily what he believes.

A few years ago I was reading through some comments on a video that Doug Vogt put out. I can't remember which one. A person asked Doug about the differences that Ben has with what is about to happen. Doug replied by saying that Ben believes Doug's version of what will happen, but can't say that because the scientists that Ben is getting information from would stop talking to him. Doug said he understands, Ben has a family to support and this is how he makes his living.

I listen to what Ben has to say on the science side(with discernment), not the ask me anything live streams. I can't get through more than a few minutes. He has some deep emotional issues. But what gets my conspiratorial mind going is why would the scientist run if he said he agrees with Doug's version of events to come?

Doug's version comes mostly with receipts. I also believe Doug is probably closer to the truth.

I have my own thoughts on Ben but will keep them to myself because it is all speculation, but I believe there is a lot more to this story that what we are told.

neutronstar
15th June 2025, 00:55
Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin. This explains the deep caverns that are cut on the west and east coast of America going all the way to the sea floor. Ben says the flood will come from the Gulf of Mexico. We don't see these caverns going north and south, only east and west.

He also believed the twisting of the Suns magnetic field is what causes the micronova. It whines up like a spring in a clock. There is an accurate clock inside the Sun that makes it's cycles(the magnetic field). The Sun's magnetic field spins faster at the equator than the poles. It eventually snaps back and creates a shockwave on the Sun that blows it's outer layer(micronova). Ben says it's the galactic current sheet.

Doug also doesn't think there is a crustal shift as Ben does.

Casey Claar
15th June 2025, 03:34
Thank you, neutronstar, this is helpful information. If you have a link where Doug explains this himself please do post it. Thank you, again.

Bill Ryan
15th June 2025, 09:22
Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin. The Earth, as a spinning ball in space, is in its own inertial frame of reference in which rotational (angular) momentum has to be conserved.

In lay language, that means that unless some (large!) external force is applied to the Earth, there's no way it could suddenly start spinning the other way. Everything I believe know about physics tells me that's impossible.

Slightly different is the Dzhanibekov Effect, and we have an interesting thread about that here:


Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108859-Why-the-Russians-classified-a-rotating-weightless-wingnut-they-thought-the-Earth-might-flip--the-Dzhanibekov-effect-)

Here's the famous little video: :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x5UiwEEvpQ
What this shows is that an asymmetrical rotating object can flip right over all on its own — but (regarding the conservation of angular momentum) it never actually reverses its spin.

What alarmed the Russians was that Planet Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but itself is slightly asymmetrical — so (in theory, maybe!) the Earth might sometime flip all on its own, just like the rotating wingnut.

Johnnycomelately
15th June 2025, 09:45
Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin. The Earth, as a spinning ball in space, is in its own inertial frame of reference in which rotational (angular) momentum has to be conserved.

In lay language, that means that unless some (large!) external force is applied to the Earth, there's no way it could suddenly start spinning the other way. Everything I believe know about physics tells me that's impossible.

Slightly different is the Dzhanibekov Effect, and we have an interesting thread about that here:


What alarmed the Russians was that Planet Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but itself is slightly asymmetrical — so (in theory, maybe!) the Earth might sometime flip all on its own, just like the rotating wingnut.

The Dizzy Effect is an interesting one. As applied to planet Earth, if it applies at all, it may be associated with structural density irregularities in iirc the Mantle, that Ben D. has spoken about and descriptively imaged.


I am not a fan of either of the tilt theories, whole planet or just crust. The crust one seems especially wacky, for reasons I’ve stated before, but they are both inane. Same frame as flat earth thinking.

neutronstar
15th June 2025, 11:26
Thank you, neutronstar, this is helpful information. If you have a link where Doug explains this himself please do post it. Thank you, again.

Doug has passed away but all of his videos are still online here. Most of what Doug talks about isn't his theories, it is from published scientific journals which he provides in his videos.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYRAmtDzQomgyo8ht4F6VuJWNpge5OP-M

Bill Ryan
15th June 2025, 11:32
I am not a fan of either of the tilt theories, whole planet or just crust. The crust one seems especially wacky, for reasons I’ve stated before, but they are both inane. Same frame as flat earth thinking.Well, it's happened before! (Tropical fossils in Antarctica, etc.) We just don't know:

Why.
When (or if) it might happen again.

neutronstar
15th June 2025, 11:54
Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin. The Earth, as a spinning ball in space, is in its own inertial frame of reference in which rotational (angular) momentum has to be conserved.

In lay language, that means that unless some (large!) external force is applied to the Earth, there's no way it could suddenly start spinning the other way. Everything I believe know about physics tells me that's impossible.

Slightly different is the Dzhanibekov Effect, and we have an interesting thread about that here:


Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108859-Why-the-Russians-classified-a-rotating-weightless-wingnut-they-thought-the-Earth-might-flip--the-Dzhanibekov-effect-)

Here's the famous little video: :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x5UiwEEvpQ
What this shows is that an asymmetrical rotating object can flip right over all on its own — but (regarding the conservation of angular momentum) it never actually reverses its spin.

What alarmed the Russians was that Planet Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but itself is slightly asymmetrical — so (in theory, maybe!) the Earth might sometime flip all on its own, just like the rotating wingnut.

I don't really have a dog in this fight one way or the other. I have heard the arguments for and against the idea of the earth changing rotation, but I am not going to claim to have the final answer.

As far as the laws of physics, our laws our incomplete and maybe on purpose, but I am not smart enough to be the one who can resolve those issues.

But to reply to your statement if the engine that drives the earth's rotation is the magnetic field you wouldn't need an external force. At least from my own non expert opinion. And it explains the deep caverns that are carved on the continental shelves that go all the way to the ocean floor. Either way something is missing because those caverns cannot be made with all that water still there.

meat suit
15th June 2025, 12:51
Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin. The Earth, as a spinning ball in space, is in its own inertial frame of reference in which rotational (angular) momentum has to be conserved.

In lay language, that means that unless some (large!) external force is applied to the Earth, there's no way it could suddenly start spinning the other way. Everything I believe know about physics tells me that's impossible.

Slightly different is the Dzhanibekov Effect, and we have an interesting thread about that here:


Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108859-Why-the-Russians-classified-a-rotating-weightless-wingnut-they-thought-the-Earth-might-flip--the-Dzhanibekov-effect-)

Here's the famous little video: :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x5UiwEEvpQ
What this shows is that an asymmetrical rotating object can flip right over all on its own — but (regarding the conservation of angular momentum) it never actually reverses its spin.

What alarmed the Russians was that Planet Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but itself is slightly asymmetrical — so (in theory, maybe!) the Earth might sometime flip all on its own, just like the rotating wingnut.

I may as well link this here from the 'Ethical sceptic' as it is a great theory on the mechanism of the disaster cycle.
https://theethicalskeptic.com/2024/05/12/exothermic-core-mantle-decoupling-dzhanibekov-oscillation-ecdo-hypothesis/

If you havent seen this, I higly recommend it..

onawah
15th June 2025, 20:42
Electric grid failure

I just recalled something important that Ben explained recently about a solar "killshot" big enough to take down the Earth's electric grid.
He corrected the assumption that such an event would only target the side of the planet facing the Sun when it occurred.
He said it would actually take down the grid planetwide because of the manner in which the energy encompasses the whole planet once it hits a certain layer of the planet's normal atmosphere (I use that term loosely), whereupon it would distribute itself evenly around the planet.
If it was sufficient to take the grid down on one side, it would have an equal effect on the other as well.
So if there was a failure of the electric grid in the US due to a solar event (which is what I was thinking would be a likely example of what Bill describes from his vision), it would be not a local, but a planetary disaster.


I'll say it more simply (and far less elegantly!): I have no concern about Ben's personality, his personal affairs, or what he may or may not be doing at the Observer Ranch.

I'm only interested in the data he reports, which I'm as sure as I can be might be very important. As some of you may be aware, 6 months ago in November 2024 I received a strong clear message (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-&p=1643336&viewfull=1#post1643336) — twice! — from an unknown invisible source, that a major solar event would strike and incapacitate the US in (I believe) early 2029.

While I can't possibly know for sure if that will happen (let alone prove the 'reality' of my experience!), it all felt extremely vivid, real and plausible to me. Moreover. it's 100% consistent with the level of increased solar activity Ben Davidson has been predicting for a while now. That's why I follow his updates daily.

:flower:

ThePythonicCow
16th June 2025, 01:57
It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in.
The question in my mind then becomes whether a fear of mine regarding some anticipated event will likely influence whether that event occurs.

If, as in the case of the major geophysical crisis anticipated by Ben Davidson, I conclude that such an event will occur or not, regardless of my state of mind, or even of my very existence, then adapting my state of mind to what's best for me and the life around me, to what's best, accepting that the event is essentially entirely outside my influence, is the best course.

If on the other hand, my state of mind likely influences that event, then perhaps I can influence it in a beneficial way, or to not even occur, by adapting my state of mind.

The more likely and consequential I figure a potential future event to be, then the more sustained focus it is worth my investing in dealing with it, whether by influencing it to not occur if that's likely within my power, or dealing with it if not.

I doubt the electricity, magnetism, plasma and matter of the earth, solar system and its surrounds in our galaxy give three sub-atomic hoots about my state of mind. So I adapt and anticipate, to ride out (or not) likely storms as best as I and my family, friends and communities can muster.

onawah
16th June 2025, 02:43
Exactly! The logic is obvious. To reword it:
We may choose what our response will be to certain events, and we may actually change in part the outcome of some events.
But there are events that are far beyond the power of the individual to change, such as the recurring cycles of Nature and of the Universe.
We may through soul evolution move to a higher dimension of being, a more non-material one where presumably we are not affected as much by 3D events.
But if we are incarnating in 3D we can only act in order to get through the events which we cannot change as best we can.
Telling ourselves that such events do not affect us can help as a coping mechanism if it's done with full consciousness and not just as a reaction of denial, but it doesn't deter the overall 3D reality of such events occurring.

As Casey has pointed out, humans currently incarnate on Earth are at various, very different stages in evolutionary development.
Some will survive the coming changes to become the new ancestors of the next Age on Earth, some will incarnate on other worlds to continue their 3D journey under similar circumstances as the ones they are leaving, others may continue their journey to a less material plane of existence, having finished with the kind of experiencing that Earth 3D reality provides.
It may not all just be a one-way journey; in the last case it seems that souls return sometimes to a lower plane for further lessons or to take on new assignments, if only temporarily.

The various scientists from various branches of science whose data Ben Davidson has been collecting over the years agree that the 12,000 year cycles of the past have been "extinction events" in that many species of animals became extinct.
But new species also appeared, and in the case of human beings, there have been enough humans who survived and reproduced to ensure the continuing survival of the species into the future.
And/or there may also have been ETs who travelled to Earth in order to add their DNA to the genetic pool, and/or who may have lived out their own lives and reincarnated here in order to give human evolution a boost (and/or, contrarily, to use it for their own purposes, in the case of regressive ET races).
Do souls in levels of higher consciousness have access to the Akashic Records in some celestial library, to discover the facts about Earth's history?
Would it take what we think of as the span of lifetimes to take even a portion of it in?
From this vantage point, we can only catch fascinating glimpses... :nerd:



It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in.
The question in my mind then becomes whether a fear of mine regarding some anticipated event will likely influence whether that event occurs.

If, as in the case of the major geophysical crisis anticipated by Ben Davidson, I conclude that such an event will occur or not, regardless of my state of mind, or even of my very existence, then adapting my state of mind to what's best for me and the life around me, to what's best, accepting that the event is essentially entirely outside my influence, is the best course.

If on the other hand, my state of mind likely influences that event, then perhaps I can influence it in a beneficial way, or to not even occur, by adapting my state of mind.

The more likely and consequential I figure a potential future event to be, then the more sustained focus it is worth my investing in dealing with it, whether by influencing it to not occur if that's likely within my power, or dealing with it if not.

I doubt the electricity, magnetism, plasma and matter of the earth, solar system and its surrounds in our galaxy give three sub-atomic hoots about my state of mind. So I adapt and anticipate, to ride out (or not) likely storms as best as I and my family, friends and communities can muster.

Delight
16th June 2025, 04:25
It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in.
The question in my mind then becomes whether a fear of mine regarding some anticipated event will likely influence whether that event occurs.

If, as in the case of the major geophysical crisis anticipated by Ben Davidson, I conclude that such an event will occur or not, regardless of my state of mind, or even of my very existence, then adapting my state of mind to what's best for me and the life around me, to what's best, accepting that the event is essentially entirely outside my influence, is the best course.

If on the other hand, my state of mind likely influences that event, then perhaps I can influence it in a beneficial way, or to not even occur, by adapting my state of mind.

The more likely and consequential I figure a potential future event to be, then the more sustained focus it is worth my investing in dealing with it, whether by influencing it to not occur if that's likely within my power, or dealing with it if not.

I doubt the electricity, magnetism, plasma and matter of the earth, solar system and its surrounds in our galaxy give three sub-atomic hoots about my state of mind. So I adapt and anticipate, to ride out (or not) likely storms as best as I and my family, friends and communities can muster.

My working hypothesis is that I am sure we are energetic beings. What we perceive is a construct. It is foolish according to the world view to deny


the major geophysical crisis anticipated by Ben Davidson, I conclude that such an event will occur or not, regardless of my state of mind, or even of my very existence, then adapting my state of mind to what's best for me and the life around me, to what's best, accepting that the event is essentially entirely outside my influence, is the best course.


We are in a collective experience but NOT ONE of us is perceiving "the world" in the same way or having the same experience.
The "Collective" is a program and Sol Luckman whom I was listening to speak tonight says that it is based on being guided to create for the archontic force. The strongest narrative believed and acted on "wins".

It is NOT real but we imagine it into a material "reality". The world tells us we are fools if we don't constantly feed (believe) the collective narrative of the day based on "science". Of course there are major arguments about the science.

At 42:54 Luckman talks about how our energy is looshed by "where we place attention". At 44:27 he is talking about people DRIVEN into following narratives.

I hear Luckman talking about this as dream within dream. IMO it makes sense that I came to wrestle with the "material" sense of it with all the rabbit holes. I do follow the still small voice which clearly shows me what I do not choose to energize. I focus on what I CHOOSE> My experience is absolutely as a beginner cultivating what I am 100% able to FEEL is my choice. Maybe I am mistaken but ironically, in this recursive dream, BE CAUSE I commit fully to my inner knowing, it MUST manifest according to my deep belief.

This world is NOT what we think. It is a wild construct which feeds back evidence of whatever we believe. Right now there is a collective overweaning DOOM narrative (in all sorts of story lines).

I don't believe what luckman says. Some just chimes with me YES. Some sounds like NO. IMO thinking people can observe and make up our minds.

At 53:19 Luckman speaks to me strongly about our dilemma in the world of recursive realm of nested cult traps. I choose knowing this is a construct where I have CHOICE. There will not be doom for me. I love being a fool.

What If Everything You’ve Been Told about “Reality” Is Wrong? And What If the Truth Is Empowering?

LCEWVOc8k8I

onawah
16th June 2025, 05:39
As my late, brilliant mentor Dr. Christopher Hills once stated, however different their characteristics are, the plane of material or physical reality is as real as any of the other planes.
He also said that the first or root chakra, which is the primary level at which we experience material reality, is often weak in humankind at present.
Being less connected to Nature than preceding generations is largely responsible for that, and more recently, being under a constant barrage of debilitating frequencies from technology which renders human perceptions askew.
(The many books that Dr. Hills authored are out of print now, sadly, but his grandson is working toward making at least some of them available online soon.
Some rare copies are still featured on Good Reads, Amazon, eBay, etc.
Such as :
Supersensonics: The Spiritual Physics of All Vibrations from Zero to Infinity
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.OUu9_csvhmTIc2QSr-0RgwHaJQ%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=71d30cdde48421e6ac3301e2236c25b99e29ce9c5e18963c7d16a7572b887f4c&ipo=images
Nuclear Evolution: Discovery of the Rainbow Body
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1699049408i/165454635.jpg
The rise of the Phoenix--universal government by nature's lawshttps://covers.openlibrary.org/b/id/13932254-M.jpg

I would not be surprised if negative forces behind the scenes have been preventing Dr. Hills' books from being available for far too many years now.
Hopefully that will change soon.
His insights into the nature of this reality were invaluable.

mountain_jim
16th June 2025, 16:50
Just want to add (as we have discussed in past, onawah) - I have read and studied those 3 Dr C. Hills books several times over the 48 years I have owned them, never got to meet him however.

These books have an honored place in my library - did not realize they were rare nowadays.

onawah
16th June 2025, 20:03
Those 3 are probably my favorites books written by Dr. Hills, but for those not familiar with his work, there are many more.


Just want to add (as we have discussed in past, onawah) - I have read and studied those 3 Dr C. Hills books several times over the 48 years I have owned them, never got to meet him however.

These books have an honored place in my library - did not realize they were rare nowadays.

onawah
16th June 2025, 20:29
I just watched some of Ben's latest Q&A from 6/14/25 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wx6rUNyI_c
I'm not even going to embed it because I'm sad to say his behavior was childlishly hostile and belligerent, much more than I've ever seen him display before.
It appears I was wrong in thinking he was beginning to mellow out; more like he's got a lot more healing to do before even that happens.
What's going on in his personal life still does not necessarily reflect on the veracity of his science however, so at least the daily reports and hopefully the new documentary should still be worthwhile for factual information.
However, I can better understand why some may currently be wondering if he is becoming the center of a cult, because judging from the brunt of the comments on the youtube page of that last Q&A, he is getting a lot of kudos from viewers for his hostile attitude.
I hope someone in his life who is mature, sane and centered enough will show up to help him wake up and get off the downward spiral.


Those 3 are probably my favorites books written by Dr. Hills, but for those not familiar with his work, there are many more.


Just want to add (as we have discussed in past, onawah) - I have read and studied those 3 Dr C. Hills books several times over the 48 years I have owned them, never got to meet him however.

These books have an honored place in my library - did not realize they were rare nowadays.

It would be great if Dr. Hills' books would be printed again, because books that are only appearing online will be subject to electric grid failure. :sad:

Bill Ryan
16th June 2025, 21:50
The many books that Dr. Hills authored are out of print now, sadly, but his grandson is working toward making at least some of them available online soon.Quite a few of them can be downloaded as PDFs from https://annas-archive.org.

onawah
16th June 2025, 22:35
There are quite a few from the University of the Trees Press, written by members of the community that Dr. Hills founded, but only a few that Dr. Hills actually wrote himself, and many titles of his best works like Rise of the Phoenix and Supersonics aren't there, unfortunately.



The many books that Dr. Hills authored are out of print now, sadly, but his grandson is working toward making at least some of them available online soon.Quite a few of them can be downloaded as PDFs from https://annas-archive.org.

Delight
17th June 2025, 00:25
I see Suspicious Observers CULT-URE coming from INFLUENCE. It is in turn intending to influence those who attend to its message. Lots of the message is underlying. For instance I realize he suggests that we are facing catyclysm from NATURE and that we are ants, too insignificant to do anything preventing catyclysm. One will just have to react and respond and prep as best as one can, not knowing and always guessing.

Adjoining cult-ures regard the end extinction as true but through other means.
IMO the whole shebang is about death. It is the worship of death.

His is not the only death cult by far.

Casey Claar
17th June 2025, 01:20
I appreciate, and respect your choice to frame Ben and his work in this way. It is not the only way to frame it, but it is certainly an option. Thank you for sharing, Delight.

onawah
17th June 2025, 02:37
For those who are resonating most strongly at the level of the three lower chakras, the focus is survival of the physical body, herd or tribal instinct, and the intellect.
The higher levels which resonate at the levels of feeling, devotion, intuition, imagination and on are more developed.
It's not too difficult to see how people who are focusing on surviving, the "Preppers", may be coming from those three lower levels to a large degree.
For those who are resonating at higher levels, the behavior and values of those at lower levels may seem primitive.
But when the Earth's environment is so endangered and polluted that species are going extinct at a rapid pace and much of humanity is at war with itself, it is only logical that there will be people focusing on survival, and they may feel they are responsible for the continuation of the species.
At the very least, they are behaving far more responsibly than those who are destroying the planet and much of humanity along with it.
They have their place and deserve respect, not ridicule.
Their goal is to preserve Life by all means possible.
Worship of Death is the choice of Satanists and those who blindly follow in their wake.



The many books that Dr. Hills authored are out of print now, sadly, but his grandson is working toward making at least some of them available online soon.Quite a few of them can be downloaded as PDFs from https://annas-archive.org.

His book Christ Yoga of Peace, which is a blueprint for forming and sustaining intentional communities would be a good one to have these days...

Johnnycomelately
18th June 2025, 08:45
Copying Vicus’ post #242, 12th May 2025, at thread What the Dickens is REALLY going on in Antarctica?, due to it’s conspiracy angle. If I understand Vicus correctly, he says Ben may be covering for a human-caused crust flip or whole planet flip, by calling it a natural recurring event. Woo, wooo!


Why the frenzy with Antarctica now?

In my humble opinion: Apart from Piramides, Nazi/Aliens basis? or Aliens Nazis or whatever may be under the ice... one thing is clear : we will never know,why?

Because every one of the BIG powers want a piece of it...

Everybody would agree with that...BUT another theme that nobody here has mention yet

is that AFTER the Earth flip over (expected from now until 2050) Antarctica will be the

only one continent getting profit from it!

Why? because his new location will be near the Tropic!

Ice will be gone sooner or later , making the NEW promise land !

Nazis called new "lebensraum"

Check out where the "new" Antarctica will be...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJy1Z9n6q4


Anyways, I checked the comments and found that I had interacted there with Ben. Vid was uploaded “1 year” ago, which means 1 - 2 years.



@johnnyliminal8032
1 year ago

If the instability is caused by way-deep mass anomalies, why do you think that the crust will slip? Shouldn’t the whole planet be affected by this rotation re-alignment phenomenon?

And, note that in the example vid from the weightless/falling demo in the ISS, the widget flips 180 degrees.


@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s
1 year ago

Like I said, I am not favoring this mechanism, its the crust that unlocks due to the micronova.


@johnnyliminal8032
1 year ago

@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s Sir, what force are you positing, that would act on the outer mass of the planet, but not on the inner. I can see by that ISS clip that I don’t really understand rotational dynamics, and I’m curious.

Big cheers to you and yours, Sir.


So, I watched the vid again (L = 5:57) to check my recollections.

In the vid, he does a fair bit of work to explain how the blyatkov (?) effect might work, yet he never answered my point about it being a 180 degree flip, whearas his is 90 and other fellow’s is 104 degree tilt.

Vid also doesn’t mention a force that would tilt the crust but not the planet, like I asked but he didn’t answer. Vid actually says nothing about any motive force that would do anything. He seems to think that the crust wants to tilt ~1/4 way around, and its wish comes true every 12k years when the Sun pops off and huge electric currents basically liquify the rock in that transition zone.

And then the thing - crust or whole planet - reverts to normal again, the reverse-flip. No time line given in this video, and I don’t recall clearly hearing one in other vids. Bill Ryan rightly stated that warm weather fossils have been found in the the most northerly lands, and iirc similarish finds have been made on Antarctica. Timing seems to favour continental drift, to me, but I’m no expert.

onawah
19th June 2025, 01:26
His documents answer those basic questions very well, and the new one coming out this Fall will have the most current data, and should cover whatever questions have remained unclear until recently.

Copying Vicus’ post #242, 12th May 2025, at thread What the Dickens is REALLY going on in Antarctica?, due to it’s conspiracy angle. If I understand Vicus correctly, he says Ben may be covering for a human-caused crust flip or whole planet flip, by calling it a natural recurring event. Woo, wooo!


Why the frenzy with Antarctica now?

In my humble opinion: Apart from Piramides, Nazi/Aliens basis? or Aliens Nazis or whatever may be under the ice... one thing is clear : we will never know,why?

Because every one of the BIG powers want a piece of it...

Everybody would agree with that...BUT another theme that nobody here has mention yet

is that AFTER the Earth flip over (expected from now until 2050) Antarctica will be the

only one continent getting profit from it!

Why? because his new location will be near the Tropic!

Ice will be gone sooner or later , making the NEW promise land !

Nazis called new "lebensraum"

Check out where the "new" Antarctica will be...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPJy1Z9n6q4


Anyways, I checked the comments and found that I had interacted there with Ben. Vid was uploaded “1 year” ago, which means 1 - 2 years.



@johnnyliminal8032
1 year ago

If the instability is caused by way-deep mass anomalies, why do you think that the crust will slip? Shouldn’t the whole planet be affected by this rotation re-alignment phenomenon?

And, note that in the example vid from the weightless/falling demo in the ISS, the widget flips 180 degrees.


@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s
1 year ago

Like I said, I am not favoring this mechanism, its the crust that unlocks due to the micronova.


@johnnyliminal8032
1 year ago

@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s Sir, what force are you positing, that would act on the outer mass of the planet, but not on the inner. I can see by that ISS clip that I don’t really understand rotational dynamics, and I’m curious.

Big cheers to you and yours, Sir.


So, I watched the vid again (L = 5:57) to check my recollections.

In the vid, he does a fair bit of work to explain how the blyatkov (?) effect might work, yet he never answered my point about it being a 180 degree flip, whearas his is 90 and other fellow’s is 104 degree tilt.

Vid also doesn’t mention a force that would tilt the crust but not the planet, like I asked but he didn’t answer. Vid actually says nothing about any motive force that would do anything. He seems to think that the crust wants to tilt ~1/4 way around, and its wish comes true every 12k years when the Sun pops off and huge electric currents basically liquify the rock in that transition zone.

And then the thing - crust or whole planet - reverts to normal again, the reverse-flip. No time line given in this video, and I don’t recall clearly hearing one in other vids. Bill Ryan rightly stated that warm weather fossils have been found in the the most northerly lands, and iirc similarish finds have been made on Antarctica. Timing seems to favour continental drift, to me, but I’m no expert.

onawah
19th June 2025, 05:51
Apologies. I didn't get nearly enough sleep last night. I meant to write "documentaries", not "documents", meaning the longer videos on Ben's SpaceWeatherNews channels.

His documents answer those basic questions very well, and the new one coming out this Fall will have the most current data, and should cover whatever questions have remained unclear until recently.

neutronstar
19th June 2025, 09:51
Where it seems Ben drew the line with the research from the late Doug Vogt:

From: https://dieholdfoundation.com/#

You may wonder why a science foundation whose goals are to study the causes of the ice ages and polar reversals and develop an information theory of existence would get involved in studying the Torah, Bible, Old Testament. The reasons are what the founder discovered about the Hebrew Alphabet. He also discovered that the exact number of years between geomagnetic reversals was embedded as code in the surface story of the Torah. The second discovery was that the Hebrew alphabet and the Torah are the product of a very highly advanced previous civilization that had the same information theory of existence as the one we are developing, the Theory of Multidimensional Reality. There is much more to the whole explanation, and the books and videos present the whole story
The Hebrew Alphabet is the Key

After eight years of research and testing, our founder discovered that the Hebrew alphabet is the result of 22 views of a waveform that is a modified square wave. This waveform is superimposed on a toroid shape that represents how a carbon atom modulates into this dimension. This part of our research is found in the book Creation of the Hebrew Alphabet. The Library of Congress indexed this book, Quantum Computing, and that is exactly what is described in the book. The Hebrew alphabet and the Torah are the products of a very highly advanced previous civilization that once lived on the Earth. The important part of this research is that this advanced civilization must have had the same information philosophy of existence as explained in the Theory of Multidimensional Reality, or else Mr. Vogt could not have discovered its origin. Abraham purchased the Cave of Machpelah not just as a burial site but really because of the technology found deep inside.


More here: http://thedieholdfoundation.com/index.html


Yes, but in this case the data he is presenting is not necessarily what he believes.

A few years ago I was reading through some comments on a video that Doug Vogt put out. I can't remember which one. A person asked Doug about the differences that Ben has with what is about to happen. Doug replied by saying that Ben believes Doug's version of what will happen, but can't say that because the scientists that Ben is getting information from would stop talking to him. Doug said he understands, Ben has a family to support and this is how he makes his living.

I listen to what Ben has to say on the science side(with discernment), not the ask me anything live streams. I can't get through more than a few minutes. He has some deep emotional issues. But what gets my conspiratorial mind going is why would the scientist run if he said he agrees with Doug's version of events to come?

Doug's version comes mostly with receipts. I also believe Doug is probably closer to the truth.

I have my own thoughts on Ben but will keep them to myself because it is all speculation, but I believe there is a lot more to this story that what we are told.

I don't agree with or even really care about Doug's other videos you are referring to. I find it odd he went down that path, but that was not the reason Doug said Ben does not agree with him in public. In private Ben agrees with Doug, or at least did at the time Doug made that comment.

What I like about Doug's presentations is most of what he presents is sited in mainstream scientific journals which he provides. People can form their own opinion on the information he presents. Who's right? Maybe neither, I don't know. Ben rides the coat tales of Doug, that is how Ben found out about all this, it's from Doug's work.

Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

onawah
19th June 2025, 23:38
As far as I am aware, Ben's community is definitely NOT deep underground, and is certainly not a military base.



Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

neutronstar
20th June 2025, 00:45
As far as I am aware, Ben's community is definitely NOT deep underground, and is certainly not a military base.



Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

I never said anything about the people that follow him. The Government most certainly knows about him and I am always aware of the fact that they could use him to control the information release. They could bribe him with a place in the DUMB for him and his family. He has children, that is a strong incentive.

If the scale of this event is anywhere near as bad as either of them say it will be, I don't question the the level people would go to to save them or their families. I also don't question how far the Government will go to control the information around this issue.

onawah
20th June 2025, 03:19
I don't think you've really been following the info from Davidson or his community very closely.
For one thing, he has stated repeatedly for years now that deep underground is a terrible place to build a bolt hole, because the amount of earthquake activity is going to be increasing and when the continents move, being deep underground will probably be the worst place to be.
As much as he despises the controllers and Satanists in general (being a professed Christian) I think he would probably prefer to die than live in one of their DUMBS.

Ben has said that in his own community (not Observer Ranch, which is in the same area but not on the same property) that they do have some shelter there that is underground, but not at all deep underground.
That is basically designed to be protection from the micronova, and no doubt for when the mini Ice Age has begun, since being protected by a modest amount of earth is a good idea both when it's very hot or very cold.
The government doesn't really want the public knowing much about their DUMBS, so if they were controlling Ben, they certainly would force him to shut up about that.

The last thing they want is for people to know about what will happen when the geomagnetic excursion occurs, or how rapidly the magnetosphere is diminishing, or how the electric grid going down would cause such chaos that most of the world's population would perish.
Or how slim the chances are that anything can be done to prevent that in the amount of time remaining (or how few attempts are being made to protect the public).
But since some of the data is coming out nonetheless by credible researchers now, they are letting it begin to leak.

Why they haven't shut Ben down completely I can only guess, but I would imagine it's because he doesn't have a big enough following as yet, and it might draw more attention to him if they did.
But he's such an excellent researcher and dot connector that possibly they want to give him free rein because they are benefiting from the info he provides.



As far as I am aware, Ben's community is definitely NOT deep underground, and is certainly not a military base.



Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

I never said anything about the people that follow him. The Government most certainly knows about him and I am always aware of the fact that they could use him to control the information release. They could bribe him with a place in the DUMB for him and his family. He has children, that is a strong incentive.

If the scale of this event is anywhere near as bad as either of them say it will be, I don't question the the level people would go to to save them or their families. I also don't question how far the Government will go to control the information around this issue.

Casey Claar
20th June 2025, 06:32
For one thing, he has stated repeatedly for years now that deep underground is a terrible place to build a bolt hole, because the amount of earthquake activity is going to be increasing and when the continents move, being deep underground will probably be the worst place to be ..... Ben has said that in his own community (not Observer Ranch, which is in the same area but not on the same property) that they do have some shelter there that is underground, but not at all deep underground. That is basically designed to be protection from the micronova, and no doubt for when the mini Ice Age has begun, since being protected by a modest amount of earth is a good idea both when it's very hot or very cold.

For the readers:

Ben's specific advice is that 'when the sun changes colors" (ie: referring to the 3 days of darkness ) GO UNDERGROUND. And when the ground starts shaking (he estimates roughly 3 days later) COME BACK UP. What one would do at that point is anyone's guess. But the main point is to avoid being buried.

Mike Gorman
20th June 2025, 07:46
Ben is a genuine man of science, he is of course quite young and prone to the vanities and preening ways of the masculine culture, he says 'Denver sucks' because that city is a focal point of the Woke and the abysmal progressive culture eminating from Brussels & the EU. I had a few friction points with young Ben a couple of years ago when I challenged him on some climate points, I pointedd out the work of Tony Heller to him and also briefly discussed some of Arthur M Young's ideas, he is the only science commenatator who has deigned to discuss that material with me, so I was impressed. I am not 100% convinced of his crustal unlocking ideas, that would be an extreme outcome and yes Antarctica did used to be a tropical place, or at least a Jurassic forest it seems: I also like how Ben pushed back on 'dark matter' and some of the flimsy astrophysics of today. The universe is much older than is claimed, the human civilizations also have been around the block more times than is stated, I like Ben even if can be a bit 'salty' - if he is salty at 40 imagine how much of a curmudgeon he will be at 60, he might even reach my stage!!

neutronstar
20th June 2025, 09:27
I don't think you've really been following the info from Davidson or his community very closely.
For one thing, he has stated repeatedly for years now that deep underground is a terrible place to build a bolt hole, because the amount of earthquake activity is going to be increasing and when the continents move, being deep underground will probably be the worst place to be.
As much as he despises the controllers and Satanists in general (being a professed Christian) I think he would probably prefer to die than live in one of their DUMBS.

Ben has said that in his own community (not Observer Ranch, which is in the same area but not on the same property) that they do have some shelter there that is underground, but not at all deep underground.
That is basically designed to be protection from the micronova, and no doubt for when the mini Ice Age has begun, since being protected by a modest amount of earth is a good idea both when it's very hot or very cold.
The government doesn't really want the public knowing much about their DUMBS, so if they were controlling Ben, they certainly would force him to shut up about that.

The last thing they want is for people to know about what will happen when the geomagnetic excursion occurs, or how rapidly the magnetosphere is diminishing, or how the electric grid going down would cause such chaos that most of the world's population would perish.
Or how slim the chances are that anything can be done to prevent that in the amount of time remaining (or how few attempts are being made to protect the public).
But since some of the data is coming out nonetheless by credible researchers now, they are letting it begin to leak.

Why they haven't shut Ben down completely I can only guess, but I would imagine it's because he doesn't have a big enough following as yet, and it might draw more attention to him if they did.
But he's such an excellent researcher and dot connector that possibly they want to give him free rein because they are benefiting from the info he provides.



As far as I am aware, Ben's community is definitely NOT deep underground, and is certainly not a military base.



Doug has stated many times in his videos that the Gov. follows him and his work, and has made contact with him. Doug is small time, he has never had many followers. The moment Ben started to get a large number of followers he moves to the most famous DUMB in the country. I find that curious.

I never said anything about the people that follow him. The Government most certainly knows about him and I am always aware of the fact that they could use him to control the information release. They could bribe him with a place in the DUMB for him and his family. He has children, that is a strong incentive.

If the scale of this event is anywhere near as bad as either of them say it will be, I don't question the the level people would go to to save them or their families. I also don't question how far the Government will go to control the information around this issue.

The fact that he says DUMBs are not the place to be is another reason I have pause with him. You would rather be in a submarine in a hurricane than on the surface, the same thing applies for land. You just don't want to be on a fault line. That is just the kind of message the military would want to put out there to keep people from storming the DUMBs.

Not all DUMBs will be safe but when you have hundred maybe thousands all around the world, many will survive. I would rather be in a DUMB far from a fault line than on the surface. With that being said, I don't want to live through this. I'm too old. If I don't die before it happens it will be one hell of a way to go out.

onawah
20th June 2025, 12:40
Being far from a fault line won't matter that much when whole continents are moving and brand new faults suddenly form, which is what occurs when there is not enough magnetism to keep the continents locked in place.
That happens overnight, not over a long period of time, so it causes huge tsunamis as well.
Continents which are near the poles will suddenly be near the equator and vice versa.
Lands which were dry will suddenly be underwater, other lands will be rising.
True, some DUMBS may be safe, but it's a lot more of a gamble than being at a high elevation which will be dry and a warm climate once the Shift is over.
Something I remember now which Ben clearly said re Doug Vogt's work is that he didn't at all agree that it is possible to pinpoint exact dates of when such events would be occurring by consulting the Torah, though he was in agreement with much else that Doug proposed.


The fact that he says DUMBs are not the place to be is another reason I have pause with him. You would rather be in a submarine in a hurricane than on the surface, the same thing applies for land. You just don't want to be on a fault line. That is just the kind of message the military would want to put out there to keep people from storming the DUMBs.

Not all DUMBs will be safe but when you have hundred maybe thousands all around the world, many will survive. I would rather be in a DUMB far from a fault line than on the surface. With that being said, I don't want to live through this. I'm too old. If I don't die before it happens it will be one hell of a way to go out.

neutronstar
21st June 2025, 12:35
Being far from a fault line won't matter that much when whole continents are moving and brand new faults suddenly form, which is what occurs when there is not enough magnetism to keep the continents locked in place.
That happens overnight, not over a long period of time, so it causes huge tsunamis as well.
Continents which are near the poles will suddenly be near the equator and vice versa.
Lands which were dry will suddenly be underwater, other lands will be rising.
True, some DUMBS may be safe, but it's a lot more of a gamble than being at a high elevation which will be dry and a warm climate once the Shift is over.
Something I remember now which Ben clearly said re Doug Vogt's work is that he didn't at all agree that it is possible to pinpoint exact dates of when such events would be occurring by consulting the Torah, though he was in agreement with much else that Doug proposed.


The fact that he says DUMBs are not the place to be is another reason I have pause with him. You would rather be in a submarine in a hurricane than on the surface, the same thing applies for land. You just don't want to be on a fault line. That is just the kind of message the military would want to put out there to keep people from storming the DUMBs.

Not all DUMBs will be safe but when you have hundred maybe thousands all around the world, many will survive. I would rather be in a DUMB far from a fault line than on the surface. With that being said, I don't want to live through this. I'm too old. If I don't die before it happens it will be one hell of a way to go out.

I heard a geologist say many years ago the best place to survive is deep underground. Plates move in unison and for the most part you wouldn't feel much. Where they collide is a different story. The Gov. is preparing to live in self contained DUMBs for hundreds of years. If we do get a Micronova the surface will be basically unlivable for years. The planet will be covered in a ball of water vapor for years before it all falls back as snow and rain at the equator. Good luck trying to survive that. Any place at a high elevation will be covered in hundreds if not thousands of feet of snow.

If we do get a micronova, I don't want to survive. I don't want to live underground for years and most definitely I wont survive on the surface.

onawah
21st June 2025, 19:06
The geomagnetic excursion when the poles flip and the continents relocate overnight are not normal circumstances when "plates move in unison".
They will not just be relocating, but colliding and breaking, rising and sinking, and all in just one day or night, with huge tsunamis inundating coastlines and flooding far inland.
I doubt that geologist from many years ago was referring to those particular circumstances.
Anyone alive during that would definitely be feeling it, no matter where they were on the planet!
Anyone planning to survive the micronova would be well advised to listen to Davidson's talks about what the planet's surface will be like after the micronova, as he has done his homework, collating and corroborating and connnecting the dots from all the credible scientific data he has been collecting for years, and so probably has a pretty good idea.
It's interesting that the reason the Zeta Reticulans have reportedly travelled here is because they lived so long underground after badly polluting and destroying the surface of the planet in the past that they were rendered unable to reproduce, and had to resort to cloning. :alien:
Their hope, we are told, was that by retrieving and utilizing human DNA from this time period, they could begin to reproduce again. (Or at least, DNA from before the Covid jabs...)
All in all, not a good recommendation for living deep underground...
It won't be easy obviously, but Ben thinks survival will be possible on the surface in part, but timing and Prepping have to be right.
Observer Ranch should be a good place to learn all about Prepping and activities are ongoing there now; but just getting a basic understanding of what is coming is covered well by the documentaries and playlists now on Davidson's online sites.
The new one coming out in the Fall will contain the most current data, so that should fill in a lot of remaining gaps.
Logically, most souls will be relocating from Earth for the duration (though few seem to be aware of that as yet).
It will be a long time before life on Earth approaches anything like "normal"; there just won't be many bodies available for incarnating into for one thing, unless a lot of ETs decide to relocate here.



Being far from a fault line won't matter that much when whole continents are moving and brand new faults suddenly form, which is what occurs when there is not enough magnetism to keep the continents locked in place.
That happens overnight, not over a long period of time, so it causes huge tsunamis as well.
Continents which are near the poles will suddenly be near the equator and vice versa.
Lands which were dry will suddenly be underwater, other lands will be rising.
True, some DUMBS may be safe, but it's a lot more of a gamble than being at a high elevation which will be dry and a warm climate once the Shift is over.
Something I remember now which Ben clearly said re Doug Vogt's work is that he didn't at all agree that it is possible to pinpoint exact dates of when such events would be occurring by consulting the Torah, though he was in agreement with much else that Doug proposed.


The fact that he says DUMBs are not the place to be is another reason I have pause with him. You would rather be in a submarine in a hurricane than on the surface, the same thing applies for land. You just don't want to be on a fault line. That is just the kind of message the military would want to put out there to keep people from storming the DUMBs.

Not all DUMBs will be safe but when you have hundred maybe thousands all around the world, many will survive. I would rather be in a DUMB far from a fault line than on the surface. With that being said, I don't want to live through this. I'm too old. If I don't die before it happens it will be one hell of a way to go out.

I heard a geologist say many years ago the best place to survive is deep underground. Plates move in unison and for the most part you wouldn't feel much. Where they collide is a different story. The Gov. is preparing to live in self contained DUMBs for hundreds of years. If we do get a Micronova the surface will be basically unlivable for years. The planet will be covered in a ball of water vapor for years before it all falls back as snow and rain at the equator. Good luck trying to survive that. Any place at a high elevation will be covered in hundreds if not thousands of feet of snow.

If we do get a micronova, I don't want to survive. I don't want to live underground for years and most definitely I wont survive on the surface.

onawah
24th June 2025, 18:49
Apologies for missing your post until now, Mike, and thanks for relating your experience with Ben.
I think a lot of that salt came from the ongoing difficult time with his wife and mother of his children, who was being unfaithful with another member of the community.
He wasn't talking about it until it had finally come to a head and the divorce was finalized, but that confession really explained a lot.
If the murals on the walls of the Denver airport are any indication, and if Colorado is the new seat of the Deep State, then Ben may be right that Denver is now more Satanic than even L.A. or NYC, which is saying a lot.
It makes me shudder to think of it. Part of my childhood was spent there, and it was such a clean and beautiful city back then.
I'm still hoping Ben will mellow out now the divorce is finalized, but that remains to be seen.
I think a lot of the bottled up angst has been coming out since that confession, making him seem quite off kilter emotionally but hopefully that will pass.
As far as the science goes, he will probably be able to keep that separate and his findings will continue to be reliable, as he seems to have always been very disciplined when it comes to the research.
I'm looking forward to the new documentary coming out in the Fall, which should be connecting a lot more dots than the previous one did, maybe more about the geomagnetic excursion.


Ben is a genuine man of science, he is of course quite young and prone to the vanities and preening ways of the masculine culture, he says 'Denver sucks' because that city is a focal point of the Woke and the abysmal progressive culture eminating from Brussels & the EU. I had a few friction points with young Ben a couple of years ago when I challenged him on some climate points, I pointedd out the work of Tony Heller to him and also briefly discussed some of Arthur M Young's ideas, he is the only science commenatator who has deigned to discuss that material with me, so I was impressed. I am not 100% convinced of his crustal unlocking ideas, that would be an extreme outcome and yes Antarctica did used to be a tropical place, or at least a Jurassic forest it seems: I also like how Ben pushed back on 'dark matter' and some of the flimsy astrophysics of today. The universe is much older than is claimed, the human civilizations also have been around the block more times than is stated, I like Ben even if can be a bit 'salty' - if he is salty at 40 imagine how much of a curmudgeon he will be at 60, he might even reach my stage!!

ThePythonicCow
25th June 2025, 11:20
The geomagnetic excursion when the poles flip and the continents relocate overnight are not normal circumstances when "plates move in unison".
They will not just be relocating, but colliding and breaking, rising and sinking, and all in just one day or night, with huge tsunamis inundating coastlines and flooding far inland.
My speculation is that some 12,000 year catastrophe's are more difficult than others ... perhaps more of us on the surface, in more locations on the earth, will survive in the years following, or perhaps only a few, hardy souls, who lucked out in their location will survive. We'll see when we get there. There is no practical way for us (at least most of us) to know ahead of time.

AutumnW
25th June 2025, 16:41
I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.

Indeed for him it is a business. He has made hundreds of thousands of dollars with it while he has been caught misinterpret data on many occasions .
All the money donated over the years for different causes always just ended up in his pocket and the causes never happened , like his doomsday APP etc.
I do suggest people to watch the video i posted . Some of the things he has done is rather shady ..
He might be genuine with his beliefs but turning his beliefs into business just adds a bad taste to it. Im skeptical of everyone these days

Same as Chris Martenson. Took me several years to figure it out. Was caught out by many on his forum, who had a bit more "expertise" than he did, fudging or purposely misinterpreting data to fit his theories. Then there is the phenom of always having to come up with better shinier doomsday stuff to sell merchandise. A total turnoff.

ThePythonicCow
25th June 2025, 21:29
Same as Chris Martenson. Took me several years to figure it out. Was caught out by many on his forum, who had a bit more "expertise" than he did, fudging or purposely misinterpreting data to fit his theories.
I agree with your take on Chris Martenson. I have stopped listening to his economic material long ago; I no longer even recall what I thought of it. But I did pay close attention to his analysis of the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt on Trump ... until I was overwhelmed by the same pattern you describe, and put aside his work there too.

I've not noticed this pattern with Ben Davidson however, at least not yet. Ben remains for me the best source of material for the coming material-electro-magnetic-plasma drama in our solar system and on earth. Whether or not Ben makes a business of his work matters little to me; whether or not he has a high hit ratio with the accuracy, thoroughness, and insights of his work does matter to me.

onawah
25th June 2025, 21:50
Apparently you haven't ever taken a look at the Observer Ranch online site, which is where a lot of those funds went.
Then there is the Prepper community on a separate property in the same area where a number of people and kids are living and creating as safe a space as they can, and I believe that is still open to new members who qualify.
See: https://observerranch.com/
The Ranch is quite a large, growing facility with classrooms where noted experts teach, and kids have their own space for study and play, there is a library, a very nice RV park with RVs to rent and hookups for those bringing their own, cabins to rent, a cafeteria, and more, including lots of varied, scheduled events for visitors.
Ben does fund raising on his Q&As, which is standard practice these days, so I don't see how blame can be laid at his door for that.
He is an attorney, but his minor was in the sciences, and if you listen to his updates, he is obviously quite learned, has a high IQ, a very retentive memory and has been extremely dedicated to his scientific research for many years.
He has written a peer-reviewed book and is recognized as credible by many in the field.
I imagine he will be more in the spotlight as time goes on, and has been on quite a few online, notable shows already.
He is obviously very knowledgable when being interviewed verbatim.
He has lots of detractors, no doubt many of them funded by Deep State shills who don't want too much information disseminated about the solar cycle.
He's taken a lot on his shoulders and he's not perfect, so the strain certainly shows at times, but his mission is worthwhile, and I hope that he succeeds.




I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.

Indeed for him it is a business. He has made hundreds of thousands of dollars with it while he has been caught misinterpret data on many occasions .
All the money donated over the years for different causes always just ended up in his pocket and the causes never happened , like his doomsday APP etc.
I do suggest people to watch the video i posted . Some of the things he has done is rather shady ..
He might be genuine with his beliefs but turning his beliefs into business just adds a bad taste to it. Im skeptical of everyone these days

Same as Chris Martenson. Took me several years to figure it out. Was caught out by many on his forum, who had a bit more "expertise" than he did, fudging or purposely misinterpreting data to fit his theories. Then there is the phenom of always having to come up with better shinier doomsday stuff to sell merchandise. A total turnoff.

ThePythonicCow
25th June 2025, 23:23
Apparently you haven't ever taken a look at the Observer Ranch site, which is where a lot of those funds went, ...
So ? I take it that you're observing that Ben Davidson is making some serious change from his work ... not Warren Buffet or Elon Musk change, but more than likely either of us has, that's for sure.

Ben presents lots of good data and insight, in a tight format, that I find well worth my present time (not much) and money (none) budgets.

Whether or not he's offering a fair deal for the customers of his more lucrative services I've not examined closely, as I'm not presently in that market. However I can, and have, imagined that if I was in that market, then his more lucrative services would be something I considered more closely. When I once had a wife and family and more zero(s) in my cash flow, those are the sorts of services and accommodations that it might have taken to engage my family in serious consideration of relocation to "higher ground".

onawah
26th June 2025, 00:05
I'm not sure who you are addressing, or what your comment means. Please explain. Thanks.


Apparently you haven't ever taken a look at the Observer Ranch site, which is where a lot of those funds went, ...
So ? I take it that you're observing that Ben Davidson is making some serious change from his work ... not Warren Buffet or Elon Musk change, but more than likely either of us has, that's for sure.

Delight
26th June 2025, 02:27
It seems an observable fact from the various types of residual architecture that building styles are both similar across the globe AND from apparent different eras. (think of the difference betwen the massive stones, the seemingly melted together deliberately styles, the underground chambers which seem to have all material sucked away except for the desired siophisticated or plain construct desired.). This was global continuity in "time past". We don't know what happened to the builders and when we see vitification of stone as if blasted (by the sun?) we surmise something. Models can be built with confirming data. These models can contradict or support others. When we see massive earth changes, we can tell cataclysm of kinds did disrupt the landscape.

I think there is control of weather, earthquakes and "energy" on massive scales. I too see my own confirmations. However, I don't know what happened or happens except MAYBE here in my own small life.

I am interested and overwhelmed by the information that is available. People take on various explanations and stake their reputation and livelihood to the model that use. The inability to cooperate intellectually with all the people who have their own spin is at a tremendous crescendo.

If someone like Ben is given a big voice in shaping what we think, IMO we are developing the basis of cult-ure where we will be effected. The narration of nature as the cause of inevitable doom seems very OPPOSED to my own story. It is just opposite of what I experience. What I see is how human behavior has been thwarting nature. Behind this I perceive a kind of infernal intelligence with an intention to so DAMAGE nature as to make the ECOLOGY unlivable. IMO underneath the actions is INTENTION. Call it the "death cult".

MOREOVER, I look at the evidence of the architecture left behind of epochs where there seem to have been distinct styles and objectives. Those were VERY intelligent beings in those times. What REALLY happened? Was there PERHAPS global catyclysm from NOT NATURE but technology weilded by beings in those times? Did THEY self destruct due to an INVERSION force?

Since I suspect this could be true, just based on the devolving I see now... where poison is in all our creations, where people can actually still hold war as a value. I just see the possibility that it is very IMPORTANT to know JUST what the technology OF THE MIND VIRUS does. A natural ecology is ALL aound us. This is a much more spiritual ecology that supports LIFE as WE know it.

I feel that there have been resets couched in stories like the flood myths. They SAY GOD caused it? God acting as nature? Or is this just a spin on using infernal technology to obliterate an epoch of LIFE? I say if it is technology, WE CAN DEFEAT IT and turn our attention to cooperating with the FORCE of Source and the iNTELLIGENCE of Mother God with her elemental children, and the INTELLIGENCE of father god which is in rhythem with Mother. I see no catyclysm but a sudden metanoia creating KINSHIP with all life. I feel faint when I imagine the joining forces of creation which is shining out Source in our single refractions TOGETHER. From there, we do NOT reset to the iteration of death.

I don't want to be in any CULT-URE which has nihilsim, SELF defeating programs and the wish to control the "future" for one's aims. I am not acusing Ben of being a nihilist but feeling nature is the threat where we ARE part of nature is dark IMO. Business always has the commercial interest. That is a great tool of the INVERSION.

One observation I have is that fearing nature is a trap to steal our innate power as a CHILD of Souce in the world of Source expressing. I choose this vision... I am, God IS and I am meeting the rest of us so we may share our authentic expression and it IS home. I have no idea what it looks like. It just FEELS whole-some and there is no room for the INVERSION of the mind.

Since I am sure many feel this is their intention, who is to say that when "half" the world devolves, we will perhaps EVOLVE with the earth. For those in the cult-ure of death, The whole shebang repeats with new avatars.

ThePythonicCow
26th June 2025, 04:52
I'm not sure who you are addressing, or what your comment means. Please explain. Thanks.
My fault ... I responded to an interaction between you and AutumnW, thinking it was a response to something I posted earlier. When I realized I later that I had things confused, I left my response, hoping it would make sense anyway.

It clearly didn't. :facepalm:

onawah
26th June 2025, 22:24
It's clear from just these current webpages what kind of facilities and events are available at Observer Ranch; not like what the detractors would have anyone believe.
This is not intended as an advertisement but just to give an idea of what is actually there.
https://observerranch.com/events/
https://observerranch.com/learning-center/
https://observerranch.com/campground/

(Note: cults are generally not open to the public)

Here is the events calendar just for June and July-- (geared more toward kids and families in the summer months):
https://observerranch.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/may-powerpoint-5.jpg

Some photos of the facilities:
https://observerranch.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/IMG_0105-Medium.jpeg
https://observerranch.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/april-powerpoint-2.jpg
https://observerranch.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/banners-8-2048x1024.jpg

And just adding this for good measure from Paul who I think has taken a fair measure of Davidson's scientific work:



Ben presents lots of good data and insight, in a tight format, that I find well worth my present time (not much) and money (none) budgets.

Whether or not he's offering a fair deal for the customers of his more lucrative services I've not examined closely, as I'm not presently in that market. However I can, and have, imagined that if I was in that market, then his more lucrative services would be something I considered more closely. When I once had a wife and family and more zero(s) in my cash flow, those are the sorts of services and accommodations that it might have taken to engage my family in serious consideration of relocation to "higher ground".

Ascension
27th June 2025, 18:05
It would be difficult to find any threads on the forum these days that aren't part of what you seem to be unwilling to admit to your reality, Delight.
It makes me wonder why you haven't abandoned Avalon for some much more New Agey venue.


As an observer, I viewed your comment to Delight about abandoning Avalon for a "more New Agey venue" as an attack. You pointedly aimed your apparent disdain for what you classify as new age in the direction of Delight, implying she might want to go elsewhere for refusing to arrange her life around doom scenarios.

I've been here for many years, not that it matters, but have substantially limited my visits in the last few years as I feel the forum has devolved over time. Whether it's because the world has changed, or the mindset of active members has changed, I don't know. What used to be a continual plethora of new ideas, and in-depth discussion on a vast array of topics has dried up. Heh, maybe it's because I've seen it all now, or at least seen enough to not to be interested anymore. My point is that just because I don't choose to wallow in gloom, doesn't mean I should leave Avalon.

While I don't think my thoughts, or even collective thoughts can change calamitous outcomes, I do tend to try to stay in observer mode and not settle on anything as a belief. I find that the lack of emotional attachment to events makes it difficult to connect with people, but at the same time, my life seems very even keeled.

I've watched Ben for many years. His material has merit and the cyclical destruction he preaches is a likely outcome. Does this mean I wish to defend him to the extent of putting others down, or even dwell on it in any way? Whether I put four more cans of tuna in my stockpile for the pole shift, or get hit by a bus on the street tomorrow, my physical existence will come to an end at some point.

It doesn't matter.

I'm not attacking you Onawah, as I appreciate your views on many topics. I simply wanted to point out that your comment, whether intentioned as an attack or not, seemed to be one.

Dumpster Diver
27th June 2025, 19:39
Bill, I thought you might like to weigh in on the thread here:https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1672192&viewfull=1#post1672192
And please don't miss Casey's informative post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1672235&viewfull=1#post1672235Yes. The new thread asked: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

I'm going to quote Casey's post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1672235&viewfull=1#post1672235)here, because I entirely agree. :)




It is opportune to say something at this point.

Ben began reporting daily, and I want to emphasize this - DAILY - in roughly 2008.

Back in the beginning, it was just REPORTING, no live-streaming or "salt". No-one really knew who Ben was, his age, or what he looked like, he was just a voice, - a voice reporting HIGHLY INTERESTING things about the sun's daily activity. He had his eye on something, but I couldn't say for sure when the moment came that even he knew exactly what that was. But when he was sure, when he felt certain, he stepped out in front of camera and began to let everyone know. Goodness -he is barely 40 now, to think he was in his very early 20s when he began his daily reports (which used to be much longer and pure raw data) it blows my mind. Anyone with this kind of discipline has my genuine respect. When, just recently in the last year or two Ben started the live-streams, and people SO easily began donating to him I felt he had earned this, every single penny. Again, I will say, he has a decidedly certain skill. He observed the patterns religiously, hours on end, day in and day out for decades and a potential, and even probability presented to him. He has honed his skill for decades, his dedication to collecting incoming data consistently in real time is to me quite clear (regardless of the in front of the camera persona he also began sharing). His work had at this point gained a foothold of deep appreciation in me. I am far more alert to the sun, the magnetic poles and magnetosphere than I ever would have been otherwise. I have been able to use this data to quite successfully help myself, as I age, and also my elderly care clients. I won't go into details, but what the sun is doing is very important to our health, notably our heart health and increased incidence of stroke (all highly important to those I care for).

The entire body of Ben's work is online and on his youtube channel. If it were not important, this work, I would not point this out. Like the man or not what he is doing is important. He is young, and like the rest of us he will make mistakes. The most beneficial thing any one of us can do for him, our fellow man, is see him in the highest light, for the greatest good of one and all. This is what will bring just this more out of him. It is not an easy experience, being known to millions of people, his life experience is now connected to everything we think and feel of him. Help him be more successful/beneficial than not, while lifting yourself in the process by sending nothing but the best in thought-streams out into the ocean in which we all swim.

I am sending my advance gratitude out to you all :heart:

CaseyI'll say it more simply (and far less elegantly!): I have no concern about Ben's personality, his personal affairs, or what he may or may not be doing at the Observer Ranch.

I'm only interested in the data he reports, which I'm as sure as I can be might be very important. As some of you may be aware, 6 months ago in November 2024 I received a strong clear message (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-&p=1643336&viewfull=1#post1643336) — twice! — from an unknown invisible source, that a major solar event would strike and incapacitate the US in (I believe) early 2029.

While I can't possibly know for sure if that will happen (let alone prove the 'reality' of my experience!), it all felt extremely vivid, real and plausible to me. Moreover. it's 100% consistent with the level of increased solar activity Ben Davidson has been predicting for a while now. That's why I follow his updates daily.

:flower:

I’ve been away, so apologies for this late note on an important point Bill made: my analysis shows danger in 2029 as well. This is derived from a lot of info as I do a lot of math modeling and follow a number of folks over the years (I tend to data dredge this site and many others thus my Avatar name).

A few other points:

-I do follow Ben’s analysis almost every day. And I do contribute to his newsletter/magazine so I do think he has valuable information.

- I have first person confirmation of Contrails (yes, I’ve seem them being formed with my own eyes…wife seen it as well.)

- I do NOT believe a major pole shift is survivable. There is evidence the Earth was repopulated after earlier shifts. The one coming up with be a major one. So, prepping for one may be a waste of time, best prepare for a Carrington Event type of flare that wipes out the electric grid. I do not think the pole shift will happen in 2029…I think it will be the “grid killing” Carrington flare.

- I do think Observors Ranch (OR) is a money maker for a hidden project. OR is a PR project. (About 60% convinced of this)

- watch Ben’s long form videos…he likes wearing wife-beaters…btw, I wear them as well when I’m in the gym.

Finally, thanks for all the feedback back on this topic. Very, very helpful.

onawah
27th June 2025, 20:56
My comment was not meant as an attack on Delight, but her posts are often mystifying to me, even though I used to think of myself as a New Ager, and am familiar with the language.
I do understand the power of positive thinking and I have had spiritual experiences myself, so I am neither a cynic nor an athiest, but at some point New Age thinking can just become denial :facepalm: , such as when it is used to deny obvious scientific facts.
My question to Delight was not couched in terms of disdain, as far as I am aware, but was simply an inquiry, as I don't quite get her POV.
I became more of a realist as my dreams of a wonderful New Age being ushered in miraculously within my lifetime dwindled the more I did more actual research, instead of just looking at what I wanted to believe.
One thing that has awakened me is my own growing sensitivity to the toxic frequencies that the new technology is flooding the planet with, which seems to me to be the harbinger of even more manmade destruction in the making.

The more I research, the more it has become obvious to me that the 12,000 year solar cycle which Davidson and more and more credible scientists are warning us about (even the MSM is beginning to warn us about it now, though in a very limited, obfuscating way)...is what is actually occurring in the here and now.
...With the failure of the electric grid possibly coming long before the denoument, the micronova, the latter of which looks to be coming within the next 2 decades at latest.

Delight's posts in what appears to be rebuttal to that POV seem to be in complete denial of the evidence about the solar cycle, and her language is so much like what staunch New Agers use to paint a rosy picture of what the future holds, but which seldom really deals with the facts, that I wondered why anyone with that POV would even want to acknowledge that there are threads on Avalon about such things as pole reversals, Carrington Events, etc., not to mention deadly vaccines, chemtrails, GMOs, WW3, etc. etc.
But those are becoming more and more obvious, as the depopulation agenda unfolds.

I don't think her rebuttals are convincing to anyone who has actually looked into the solar cycle data sufficiently to have a valid opinion, and I've wondered if perhaps she is really just trying to convince herself.
Or perhaps it's just that she is saying it doesn't matter somehow if you just switch your POV, or that you will just ascend to an alternate reality if you so choose.
It's really not very clear and appears all the more so when it's posted on a thread that is largely based on scientific data, and her posts on this subject appear to be more or less off topic to me, designed to distract from the topic at hand.

So much of the discussions on the forum now are about the things that the puppet masters (whoever or whatever they may be) are undeniably doing to depopulate the planet in whatever ways they can, so that a natural, partial extinction event is in some ways the least of our concerns.
The overtaking of what seem to be human beings by what seem to be Archons (I am referring to soul possession), who seem to want nothing more than to destroy the planet and humanity both, is actually what I find more concerning.
I've come to see the solar cycles for Earth as Nature's cyclical solution to the messes that have regularly been made of the planet, and a restart coming that will enable the planet to heal and humanity to reconnect with Nature again.
Though it will be a long and painful process (which is part of the lesson--3D life isn't easy in this Age).

I agree with Davidson's frequent assurance that he sincerely hopes he is wrong, and I believe him; I think he is sincerely on the side of humanity, and of living in harmony with God and Nature.
(He doesn't suffer fools gladly, but I think he is anxious about how much time is left to accomplish what he has set out to do.
Even just surviving the failure of the electric grid will take a lot on the part of his community, and there is no knowing when that might take place.

I don't see signs that humanity is rising to the occasion in time to undo or stop all the damage that has and is being done.
There doesn't appear to be enough united and determined purpose in humanity as a whole, at the rate it is being sickened and destroyed, to disarm the puppet masters.

As for what path each individual will take, that is up to where each person is in their individual evolution, but as for 3D Earth, it's clear to me that there won't be many people incarnating here before long, or for some time to come.
However, I don't see that as a cynical, gloomy doomsday scenario, I see it realistically as a natural cosmic progression and actually a step up on the cycle of Ages, as we begin to move out of the Kali Yuga and gradually upward into an Age of more Light.
(Though that progress is slow, in God's eye, it's just a blink.)

In summary, Earth is a living being too, and Gaia deserves better treatment than she is receiving now.
Humans are her children and will have to learn more respect if this planet is going to remain one on which humanity can live and prosper.
It seems clear that humanity as a whole has not evolved enough yet to fend off the attacks of ill-intentioned beings who hate humanity and would prefer to see the race wiped out.
There is still a long way to go before humanity as a whole ascends, though perhaps in some distant future, something like that will be possible.
There are some highly evolved beings on the planet who may be ascending to a higher plane now and are doing what they can to mitigate the damage done, which is evidence that things can change for the better.
But the clock is ticking, and many are beginning to realize that something is coming soon that not only scientists, but also prophets and visionaries have been warning us about for a long time, and is finally at hand.
I think for many, it's better to face the facts and prepare psychologically, spiritually and physically as much as possible.
Wearing rosy colored glasses might help make that temporarily more bearable, but it cannot change it.




It would be difficult to find any threads on the forum these days that aren't part of what you seem to be unwilling to admit to your reality, Delight.
It makes me wonder why you haven't abandoned Avalon for some much more New Agey venue.


As an observer, I viewed your comment to Delight about abandoning Avalon for a "more New Agey venue" as an attack. You pointedly aimed your apparent disdain for what you classify as new age in the direction of Delight, implying she might want to go elsewhere for refusing to arrange her life around doom scenarios.

I've been here for many years, not that it matters, but have substantially limited my visits in the last few years as I feel the forum has devolved over time. Whether it's because the world has changed, or the mindset of active members has changed, I don't know. What used to be a continual plethora of new ideas, and in-depth discussion on a vast array of topics has dried up. Heh, maybe it's because I've seen it all now, or at least seen enough to not to be interested anymore. My point is that just because I don't choose to wallow in gloom, doesn't mean I should leave Avalon.

While I don't think my thoughts, or even collective thoughts can change calamitous outcomes, I do tend to try to stay in observer mode and not settle on anything as a belief. I find that the lack of emotional attachment to events makes it difficult to connect with people, but at the same time, my life seems very even keeled.

I've watched Ben for many years. His material has merit and the cyclical destruction he preaches is a likely outcome. Does this mean I wish to defend him to the extent of putting others down, or even dwell on it in any way? Whether I put four more cans of tuna in my stockpile for the pole shift, or get hit by a bus on the street tomorrow, my physical existence will come to an end at some point.

It doesn't matter.

I'm not attacking you Onawah, as I appreciate your views on many topics. I simply wanted to point out that your comment, whether intentioned as an attack or not, seemed to be one.

update: I should add that my intention is not to supply those who are "wallowing in gloom" with yet more muddy material, but to help clarify the information that is the basis of Davidson's work, as it can easily get misinterpreted or misrepresented.
One of my motivations for posting on Avalon is to be in service to others, to help more people (largely non-members--I'd rather not preach to the choir anymore than necessary) to become aware of what important information that the MSM is not only not supplying, but is distracting from deliberately or obfuscating.
As the earth changes progress and as survival becomes more difficult to achieve, more and more people are going to be questioning the "official" narratives.
So credible scientific data is going to be more and more necessary for those who want to survive or at least avoid suffering anymore than they have to.
For those individuals, it really does matter, particularly the young and those with children.
Recording such vital "wake up call" information on Avalon that is generally hidden is one of the original intended purposes of the forum, and continues to be so, as far as I am aware.
So I don't really feel that I need to apologize for providing precisely that kind of information here, for those who are ready to hear it.
For those who aren't ready, there are still threads on Avalon that are not dealing with such heavy issues.

onawah
27th June 2025, 21:32
I had never heard the term "wife beater" shirt until recently. (I think it was used at one point to insinuate that Ben Davidson is a wife beater, which I took exception to.
But I looked the term up, and for others who are not familiar with it, it doesn't mean that wife-beaters wear a particular kind of shirt advertising their violent behavior.
There is an explanation of how the term came about here:
https://www.dictionary.com/e/take-off-wife-beater-put-tank/

Observer Ranch is meant to be a center for educating, networking and gathering together people who are interested in preparing for both the failure of the electric grid and the micronova, and for forming Prepper communities.
A separate site in the same region is where Davidson's own Prepper community is located.
Both have probably been the object of Ben's fundraising efforts.
He is open about the existence of both, though he and no doubt the other members prefer to keep information about the Prepper community as private as possible for obvious reasons, that being that when conditions overall become dire, remaining inconspicuous will be essential for surviving possible raids.
(Another good reason for initially having shelter far enough underground that it is not visible to intruders.)


Electric grid failure
[QUOTE=onawah;1672619]I just recalled something important that Ben explained recently about a solar "killshot" big enough to take down the Earth's electric grid.
He corrected the assumption that such an event would only target the side of the planet facing the Sun when it occurred.
He said it would actually take down the grid planetwide because of the manner in which the energy encompasses the whole planet once it hits a certain layer of the planet's normal atmosphere (I use that term loosely), whereupon it would distribute itself evenly around the planet.
If it was sufficient to take the grid down on one side, it would have an equal effect on the other as well.
So if there was a failure of the electric grid in the US due to a solar event (which is what I was thinking would be a likely example of what Bill describes from his vision), it would be not a local, but a planetary disaster.




I’ve been away, so apologies for this late note on an important point Bill made: my analysis shows danger in 2029 as well. This is derived from a lot of info as I do a lot of math modeling and follow a number of folks over the years (I tend to data dredge this site and many others thus my Avatar name).
A few other points:
-I do follow Ben’s analysis almost every day. And I do contribute to his newsletter/magazine so I do think he has valuable information.
- I have first person confirmation of Contrails (yes, I’ve seem them being formed with my own eyes…wife seen it as well.)
- I do NOT believe a major pole shift is survivable. There is evidence the Earth was repopulated after earlier shifts. The one coming up with be a major one. So, prepping for one may be a waste of time, best prepare for a Carrington Event type of flare that wipes out the electric grid. I do not think the pole shift will happen in 2029…I think it will be the “grid killing” Carrington flare.
- I do think Observors Ranch (OR) is a money maker for a hidden project. OR is a PR project. (About 60% convinced of this)
- watch Ben’s long form videos…he likes wearing wife-beaters…btw, I wear them as well when I’m in the gym.
Finally, thanks for all the feedback back on this topic. Very, very helpful.

onawah
29th June 2025, 23:53
I agree that the it's the failure of the electric grid that needs to be the focus at this point.
More about the Carrington Event of 1859 following, which was traumatic enough even at that time, when there was no electric grid.
Today such a solar flare would result in utter chaos and in the predicted cycle of recurrence, is already overdue.
In any case, it seems very unlikely there is time or inclination on the part of the puppet masters to prevent the damage it would cause, rather, they seem hellbent on eliminating as much of the population as they can by various manmade means.

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You may be right in that the coming solar cycle may not be survivable, though I think the planet could be repopulated, once conditions are safe, by ET races.
...Which seems to have happened before, though I doubt that it would be a case of going back to stage one again.
In any case, I don't think that would be the right fit for the stage the planet is in, in its own current evolutionary cycle.
Rather, that ETs might bring enough supplies and tools for survival to support them in relative comfort while reconstruction began.
But I think Preppers should not be discouraged from doing their best to survive it all.
If they do prevail, all the better and a big high score for the tenacity of the human race (those who are still actually human and have not succumbed to Archontic influence). :highfive: :star:



I do NOT believe a major pole shift is survivable. There is evidence the Earth was repopulated after earlier shifts. The one coming up with be a major one. So, prepping for one may be a waste of time, best prepare for a Carrington Event type of flare that wipes out the electric grid. I do not think the pole shift will happen in 2029…I think it will be the “grid killing” Carrington flare.

Arcturian108
30th June 2025, 00:51
Ben Davidson definitely has a corner on the doomsday market. I bet he will have a fist-fight with anyone trying to move into his space.

onawah
30th June 2025, 06:07
I doubt that many Preppers have the stomach for coming up against the MSM and the other forces who are behind the puppet masters.
Ben has determination and fortitude, and may yet succeed in his goals if he can keep his ego in check, and can get the kind of support such a venture needs.
Which is pretty much the challenge for any who put themselves into the role of a leader pitted against the System, which no doubt has become as poisonous as it has ever been though its tactics now are probably a lot sneakier than they ever were in the distant past.

Doomsday market? I would call the doomsday market:
the self-replicating nanobots and gene altering chemicals in so-called "vaccines" as well as in food, air, water and other pharmaceuticals;
toxic frequencies, AI and mind control that are becoming ubiquitous in the dumbing down technology in general, particulary in cell phone tech;
chemtrails that have been dumping innumerable toxins on everything ongoing for years now;
many other toxins (including plastics) inserted directly into food, water and pharmaceuticals and making everyone toxic;
poisonous pesticides sprayed directly onto crops and other growing things, and drifting everywhere;
contaminated oceans and waterways;
The list goes on and on...

I imagine Davidson and his community are probably very grateful to find allies in their quest to survive all that, and he has said repeatedly that his Prepper community is open to new members.
The responses to his online presentations on his own sites and on other sites where he has joined the discussion and been interviewed have been favorable, and the comments in the chats on those sites are largely very supportive.


Ben Davidson definitely has a corner on the doomsday market. I bet he will have a fist-fight with anyone trying to move into his space.

Anybody else?

https://i.imgur.com/BZ7a3hJ.jpeg


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Jaak
30th June 2025, 15:23
I imagine Davidson and his community are probably very grateful to find allies in their quest to survive all that, and he has said repeatedly that his Prepper community is open to new members.

Can you join his prepper community for free or only if you pay him ? Is he seeking new members or customers ?
I think one has to be rather rich to stay in his observer ranch for long periods of time because it aint cheap.
He likes to refer his viewers as his students . Is it same in his community where he is the all knowing leader and rest are his flock/cattle ?
That gives a cult vibe where you are not allowed to disagree with your cult leader ..
Maybe if he was more humble and positive but that giant ego of his makes me want to stay far away from him .
I do agree with Ben more than i disagree and been watching his videos for years .
Just watched his latest video , 1/3 of it is advertisement to buy his swag ...

Johnnycomelately
30th June 2025, 16:28
I imagine Davidson and his community are probably very grateful to find allies in their quest to survive all that, and he has said repeatedly that his Prepper community is open to new members.

Can you join his prepper community for free or only if you pay him ? Is he seeking new members or customers ?
I think one has to be rather rich to stay in his observer ranch for long periods of time because it aint cheap.
He likes to refer his viewers as his students . Is it same in his community where he is the all knowing leader and rest are his flock/cattle ?
That gives a cult vibe where you are not allowed to disagree with your cult leader ..
Maybe if he was more humble and positive but that giant ego of his makes me want to stay far away from him .
I do agree with Ben more than i disagree and been watching his videos for years .
Just watched his latest video , 1/3 of it is advertisement to buy his swag ...

Ditto, Jaak.

onawah
30th June 2025, 17:36
The recent video in which Ben advertised his swag was very much the exception rather than the rule, and that was because he is coming out with a new book that he authored (his second, among many peer-reviewed papers as well), as you must know if you watch his videos consistently,
(I am not the best person to ask questions about what the qualifications are for joining his community as I have never been there myself.
I certainly would have reported on that if I had.)

I imagine that most people who do visit the Ranch or the community probably DO consider themselves to be students of the information that Ben has gathered and remembers practically verbatim with his extremely retentive memory.
(...Unless of course, they have a huge ego...
I think I am impressed with Ben's retentive memory in part because my own is not very retentive due to a severe concussion I suffered in earlier years.)

But there are also experts in the field who teach classes at Observer Ranch, for whom Ben expresses reverence and respect, such as Dr. Pierre-Marie Robitaille https://beyondmainstream.org/scientist/dr-pierre-marie-robitaille/
(Important to note this professor is a biochemist and that one of the major focuses of the important information being disseminated about the solar cycle is how much people are affected physically, even fatally, by solar events.
I discovered much later that the day on which I suffered a NDE and a concussion as a result was one on which there was a huge CME, and I'm sure there is a connection. My intuition told me I should have stayed home that day!
No doubt another reason why I find this information about the solar cycles to be so important. )

If you listen to any of the online discussions and interviews Ben has been featured in, it's clear that he knows the data inside and out and can rattle off facts and stastics verbatim like a computer.
That is part of having a rare condition known as Hyperthymesia. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthymesia
In Ben's case, which is even more rare among those with the condition, his retentive memory is focused on data more than experiences from his past, which is apparently what most hyperthymesiacs experience.
That probably explains why his behavior has been so volatile lately since letting go of traumatic experiences (such as the recent, painful divorce) is very difficult for those with Hypertheymesia.


People with hyperthymesia also have difficulties letting go of difficult events or traumatic memories, which can stay with them for life. Joey DeGrandis, who was featured in the magazine Time said, "I do tend to dwell on things longer than the average person, and when something painful does happen, like a break-up or the loss of a family member, I don't forget those feelings."[14]
Cases of hyperthymesia have forced many people to re-evaluate what is meant by "healthy" memory: "it isn't just about retaining the significant stuff. Far more important is being able to forget the rest."[15]Ben is an even more rare study case since his memory is focused so much on data rather than life experiences, but the condition itself is extremely rare and little is known about it as yet.
In some ways, it equips Ben very well for the role he has taken, in others it will likely prove to be detrimental.
I think he understands that and it probably makes him want to choose members of his Prepper community very carefully, highlighting those who have vital skills that he lacks.
Considering the kinds of challenges such a community will likely face ongoing, that would be very necessary.
Though as I understand it, it's a community decision and not his alone, and Ben is a leader there, though not a dictator.

Inasmuch as the goal of that community is to preserve some remnants of the human race for the sake of the future of the human race itself, it's kind of puzzling to me that Ben's motives should come under attack here on the forum.
...Where it should be obvious why such an endeavor would be necessary and should be supported in view of what we know to be the odds against it succeeding.
If only because the puppet masters are so determined to eliminate as much of the population as possible by their own, unnatural means.
Presumably giving themselves the better odds of assuming total control of what is left once the solar cycle is complete.



I imagine Davidson and his community are probably very grateful to find allies in their quest to survive all that, and he has said repeatedly that his Prepper community is open to new members.

Can you join his prepper community for free or only if you pay him ? Is he seeking new members or customers ?
I think one has to be rather rich to stay in his observer ranch for long periods of time because it aint cheap.
He likes to refer his viewers as his students . Is it same in his community where he is the all knowing leader and rest are his flock/cattle ?
That gives a cult vibe where you are not allowed to disagree with your cult leader ..
Maybe if he was more humble and positive but that giant ego of his makes me want to stay far away from him .
I do agree with Ben more than i disagree and been watching his videos for years .
Just watched his latest video , 1/3 of it is advertisement to buy his swag ...

Here is an article from May 2025 published in a Canon City newspaper about the Ranch:
https://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/2025/05/28/observer-ranch-campground-and-learning-center-launches-in-penrose/
Observer Ranch Campground and Learning Center launches in Penrose
"By Olivia Johnson | ojohnson@canoncitydailyrecord.com
PUBLISHED: May 28, 2025 at 12:29 PM MDT
https://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/DRC-L-OBSERVER-05.jpg?w=1860
Stargazing is a simple act that requires just a handful of things, including the appropriate gear, a comfortable place to sit and observe, and a dark night sky.

The owners and managers of the 70-acre Observer Ranch Campground and Learning Center, located at 4509 CR 123 in Penrose, plan to take advantage of just that.

“They [owners Ben Davidson and Kat Davidson] loved the RV lifestyle,” said co-manager Mark Haigwood. “And they also hosted space weather conventions for years…so they decided to combine those two loves.”

After being forced to cancel a large-scale space weather conference in the spring of 2020 after the emergence of the COVID-19 virus, the Davidsons decided to marry their two great passions into one venture, and four years later, Observer Ranch was officially welcomed to Fremont County.

After a soft launch in September, the campground experienced immediate success and celebrated with a grand opening April 22. Though it offers the amenities of many other campgrounds, such as RV spaces, cabins, showers and laundry facilities, it’s taken the concept of camping in style further by mixing it with knowledge.

Considered an educational campground, Observer Ranch not only boasts RV spaces, cabins, and a tiny home but also offers a variety of classes (for both locals and tourists to enjoy), has a library, and offers a multitude of learning opportunities.

Since September, the ranch has partnered with Estes Rockets to host monthly rocket launches and co-managers Mark and Barb Haigwood have also spent time building their own rockets with travelers.

The ranch’s Little Spark Library offers more than 350 books focused on earth/space science, nature, outdoors, and more, particularly for children, but invites people of all ages to expand their brains with all sorts of knowledge.

Day passes are also available for local residents with families to partake in the library, playground, and more.

At the heart of the campground sits the main lodge, where the beat of the place truly runs. It features a 1,500 square foot event space, which has already hosted birthdays, conferences, memorials and a menagerie of classes, which are open to local residents as well as tourists.

“We’ve hosted a home remedies class, blacksmithing, small animal processing, homeschool bartering — these classes are really meant for everybody,” commented co-manager Barb Haigwood.

The ranch’s class docket remains full and upcoming classes include an Intro to Permaculture on Friday, Moms Support Meetup on Wednesday, and Dome Garden Workshop on June 7-8.

“Most of the classes are free if you have a reservation, but the community is also welcome,” Barb said.

“We’re always striving to connect people with each other and connecting them to make a community,” Mark added.

Fremont County residents can take advantage of a 20% discount for all classes.

Learn more about their classes at https://observerranch.com/events/.

For those wanting an unparalleled view of not only Fremont Peak but the night sky, they also offer a variety of housing options, which start at just $50.

The 20 RV spaces offer full hook-ups, consisting of water, electric, and sewer. The ranch also has 10 campers onsite, which are suitably painted as each planet in the solar system, that can be rented at any time, and a 3D printed home — made of 100,000 recycled bottles. True to the camping spirit, they also offer 10 campsites.

If RV life isn’t what travelers are looking for, the ranch also offers a tiny home, complete with a kitchen and bathroom, and six,1,000 square-foot A-style cabins.

Several telescopes are on the property and, in addition to teaching families how to use them, many classes will revolve around their use.

In the future, the campground will evolve to include yurts, a barn, and an expanded learning center — but, for now, it will focus on offering knowledge and an unrivaled view of the stars in Fremont County.

Learn more by calling the ranch at (719) 203-2436 or visiting https://observerranch.com/, https://www.facebook.com/observerranch."

A similar article here from the local FOX news station:
https://www.fox21news.com/fox21-news-we-are-the-royal-gorge-region/under-the-stars-the-penrose-campground-thats-out-of-this-world/
This one has a short video showing the interior of the learning center, which is quite impressive.

It sure doesn't look like a cult to me, rather a very well designed learning center created by an innovative scholar, visionary and important whistleblower who deserves support from other awake and aware individuals.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH7NkUE9FxA

Dumpster Diver
1st July 2025, 04:22
Just watched hi latest and I still find Ben’s “long form” videos to be unwatchable. No new info is discussed and Ben tries to stay “non-salty” and routinely fails…all in his wife-beaters and Christian Cross…with tats. I guess he gets some online payout for this, but for any new info it is a waste. He really needs a PR person to guide him away from this cartoonish figure he has fallen into.

…And, since opening the campground, he is full-time shilling for his gold company and the campground.

onawah
1st July 2025, 04:57
I think the Q&As were a bad idea from the start and I probably won't watch them anymore myself unless there is some very good reason to.
Diplomacy is definitely not Ben's strong suit, but he is still a great repository of knowledge, and very driven to reach his goals for the Prepper community at large.
Maybe in time he will mellow out; probably a lot of people are praying that he will, but he's got a lot of fans who seem to like him just the way he is, so it's hard to say.
It may be partly a generational thing; meanwhile, he is probably looking for a new mate, so the muscle display is understandable.
"He really needs a PR person to guide him away from this cartoonish figure he has fallen into."
I absolutely agree.


Just watched hi latest and I still find Ben’s “long form” videos to be unwatchable. No new info is discussed and Ben tries to stay “non-salty” and routinely fails…all in his wife-beaters and Christian Cross…with tats. I guess he gets some online payout for this, but for any new info it is a waste. He really needs a PR person to guide him away from this cartoonish figure he has fallen into.

…And, since opening the campground, he is full-time shilling for his gold company and the campground.

onawah
3rd July 2025, 04:17
Newton reincarnated?

I cannot comment on the data but I think it's kind of interesting that Newton in this photo:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.fineartamerica.com%2Fimages-medium-large%2F1689-sir-isaac-newton-portrait-young-paul-d-stewart.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=dd5fadb4aed7f575b1c160c3c2323eb46eff2734e1c0fab4e0c626ac489e89ec
...bears a strong resemblance to Ben Davidson of SpaceWeatherNews, who is also brilliant (a speed reader with a very retentive memory and a rare case of Hyperthymesia, a very innovative, astute in the fields of math, astrophysics, meteorolgy, etc....though he is only 40 years old. I've seen the very same critical expression on his face in many of his youtube videos.
More about his background here: https://suspicious0bservers.org/about-faq/)
Two photos of Ben: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP.c1gZ1Ofz2Xw_lFislF_LwQHaEK%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=528f804848587d22d6d874f6ab230c708714947977314df65f1295b48a1acd3f&ipo=images
https://photos.brighteon.com/file/brighteon-thumbnails/poster/9a11c7ac-150f-4ef1-a5c2-2cd3afedcc4e

Recently in Ben's Q&A sessions on youtube, after a very recent and traumatic divorce from an unfaithful wife, he has been demonstrating some aberrant behavior.

And this is a description from: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Isaac-Newton
...of Newton's volatile nature, probably due in part to traumatic events from his childhood:

Deprived of a father before birth, he soon lost his mother as well, for within two years she married a second time; her husband, the well-to-do minister Barnabas Smith, left young Isaac with his grandmother and moved to a neighbouring village to raise a son and two daughters. For nine years, until the death of Barnabas Smith in 1653, Isaac was effectively separated from his mother, and his pronounced psychotic tendencies have been ascribed to this traumatic event. That he hated his stepfather we may be sure. When he examined the state of his soul in 1662 and compiled a catalog of sins in shorthand, he remembered “Threatening my father and mother Smith to burne them and the house over them.” The acute sense of insecurity that rendered him obsessively anxious when his work was published and irrationally violent when he defended it accompanied Newton throughout his life and can plausibly be traced to his early years.
Also:

When Newton received the bachelor’s degree in April 1665, the most remarkable undergraduate career in the history of university education had passed unrecognized. On his own, without formal guidance, he had sought out the new philosophy and the new mathematics and made them his own, but he had confined the progress of his studies to his notebooks.

Both extremely dedicated,"bookish" scholars whose work is both original and innovative, though controversial.
More evidence of Newton's very tempermental nature related to controversy:

Newton was also engaged in another exchange on his theory of colours with a circle of English Jesuits in Liège, perhaps the most revealing exchange of all. Although their objections were shallow, their contention that his experiments were mistaken lashed him into a fury. The correspondence dragged on until 1678, when a final shriek of rage from Newton, apparently accompanied by a complete nervous breakdown, was followed by silence. The death of his mother the following year completed his isolation. For six years he withdrew from intellectual commerce except when others initiated a correspondence, which he always broke off as quickly as possible.

And

When the Royal Society received the completed manuscript of Book I in 1686, Hooke raised the cry of plagiarism, a charge that cannot be sustained in any meaningful sense. On the other hand, Newton’s response to it reveals much about him. Hooke would have been satisfied with a generous acknowledgment; it would have been a graceful gesture to a sick man already well into his decline, and it would have cost Newton nothing. Newton, instead, went through his manuscript and eliminated nearly every reference to Hooke. Such was his fury that he refused either to publish his Opticks or to accept the presidency of the Royal Society until Hooke was dead.
More at https://www.britannica.com/biography/Isaac-Newton/The-Principia ... about Newton's very colorful life, how he became a very wealthy man, was very religious and found fulfillment in associating with other innovative scientists.

Criticisms have been registered here on the forum about Davidson's temper tantrums, his apparent acquisitiveness and his religion, but several members who have been monitoring his work closely, including Bill Ryan, believe his scientific work has a lot of merit.
More about his very rare case of Hyperthymesia here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1674906&viewfull=1#post1674906

I could certainly be wrong (and this is not exactly on topic so please pardon the diversion) but I am fairly intuitive and have often matched up past lives with current lives of various people of my acquaintance.
Though I don't know Davidson personally, my strong hunch is that this is another reincarnation match.
His accomplishments so far have been fairly remarkable considering how controversial his work is and how a lot of has been done single handed, but he has reached a certain landmark now with Observer Ranch and it will be interesting to see how the work proceeds.
He has a second book coming out now and a new documentary due this Fall.
Hopefully he will be able to heal and his Hyperthymesia will prove to be more of a gift than a deterrant as I think he has an important role to play, but much may depend on whether he can maintain emotional balance.
Newton lived to the age of 84, and Ben has the kind of ears which signal longevity in the ancient (and very accurate) art of Chinese Medicine, so he may well survive to see the pole shift he is helping many Preppers to be ready for.



For "intellectual inspiration" Linconshire also appears to be tops, as it was there that Sir Isaac Newton, "studying in isolation", invented calculus, the binomial theorem, the law of universal gravitation and the discovery of the composite nature of white light - all at the tender age of twenty three and immediately after leaving Trinity College, Cambridge, where his academic career was said to be "undistinguished".

Johnnycomelately
8th July 2025, 03:06
Today’s episode of Ben’s solo soap opera “As The World Turns Over”, featuring Ben rage-drinking Alex Jones’ “Conspiracy” bourbon and also claiming to be a “happy drunk”. I am at 25 min in, of 1:19, and am getting schooled in snideness and kill-eye techniques once again.

Ben reminds me of bullies that I’ve encountered. Bullies bother me among the most of objectional traits, maybe because I was a bully at times in my youth.

Good info scattered in here too tho, thru ~30 min mark, says to practice fasting. Seems like a good idea, for when food runs out.

Clown World and Catastrophe Livestream

SpaceWeatherNews (S0)
819K subscribers

July 7, 3025


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVlDwUcVa1s[/url]

Got to 1:06:30, am done. Life calls me away, nothing more to say.

onawah
8th July 2025, 07:23
I beg to differ! I think he was really mellow tonight, after the first explosive 10 minutes and two shots of liquor, with lots of questions answered very pleasantly, even cheerfully -- especially compared to recent salty Q&As.
I think he may be turning a corner.

Clown World and Catastrophe Livestream
SpaceWeatherNews (S0)
7/7/2025

(Ben has a meltdown in the first 10 minutes of the video due to the recent science news that the pole shift scenario is speeding up, and so he is officially predicting now that the finale will be in the 2030s, not the 2040s.
He also expresses his disillusionment with today's US news and his doubts about Trump; he curses a lot, and vehemently condemns pedophiles to hell (and who can blame him?).
(He says something about "Elon" being due for a visit to Observer Ranch--does anyone know what that is in reference to? He didn't say "Elon Musk", just "Elon"... :noidea: )

Then he actually takes a couple of drinks (courtesy of Alex Jones) in order to mellow out, saying that he is not a mean drunk, just the opposite, but that he gave up drinking some years ago.
Indeed, the alcohol actually seems to work like a charm because after those first 10 minutes he becomes the affable and charming Ben we have caught glimses of in online interviews with various hosts like Kim Iversen (whom he praises effusively).
That conversation here:
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I just hope he doesn't have to turn to drink to stay relaxed...:flower:

But again, he is the most mellow I have ever seen him, very warm and friendly, even funny, answering lots of questions without complaints.:thumbsup:
He even apologized for his saltiness (quite sincerely) and for his lack of PR skills in previous Q&As.
But it also appears that he had a team member diligently fielding the questions for him this time, and no doubt that had a lot to do with the relaxed mood too.
I hope that continues because that has probably been the main missing ingredient all along.

My faith is becoming restored that Ben may very well turn the corner after the recent trials he's been enduring in his personal life.YES!
Now if he just refrains from being too disillusioned by the clown world news...:jester: :facepalm: (but then again, that goes for all of us...:sad:)

nVlDwUcVa1s


Today’s episode of Ben’s solo soap opera “As The World Turns Over”, featuring Ben rage-drinking Alex Jones’ “Conspiracy” bourbon and also claiming to be a “happy drunk”. I am at 25 min in, of 1:19, and am getting schooled in snideness and kill-eye techniques once again.

Ben reminds me of bullies that I’ve encountered. Bullies bother me among the most of objectional traits, maybe because I was a bully at times in my youth.

Good info scattered in here too tho, thru ~30 min mark, says to practice fasting. Seems like a good idea, for when food runs out.

Got to 1:06:30, am done. Life calls me away, nothing more to say.

Dumpster Diver
8th July 2025, 14:32
If Ben has gotten crazy over finding out that Trump is one of the Power Elite covering their Epstein tracks, just wait until he digs up Mauro Biglino and Paul Wallis’ research on the Old Testament “original messages” showing the Old Testament God (Yahweh) being a warlord ET. That’ll mess with his religion.

For my money, it is really looking like Trump is shooting for becoming the Anti-Christ…

Ben really, really needs to talk to some PR guys to calm down his bi-polar image he is building…but maybe it is too late.

…at the moment, the only “clown show” here is his own long-format videos…

onawah
8th July 2025, 18:52
I think Ben's despair and temporary falling off the wagon is quite understandable in view of yesterday's news which he was reacting to.
Which had to do in part with the blatant coverup concerning Jeffrey Epstein that apparently Trump is supporting.
See the thread where Bill posted this:

If this was a movie, Dan Bongino would call a press conference this morning. On live TV, he would state that he had been ordered to lie and that he was resigning with immediate effect. But for legal reasons, he regrets he cannot take any questions or say any more at all.

He'd never have a job in government ever again. But he'd be the citizens' hero, and the whole rotten DC edifice would crumble and fall.

However, Bongino and his family have probably already been threatened. So he's chosen not to be a martyr about this.

Ben Davidson's heartfelt plea (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107734-Jeffrey-Epstein-Ghislaine-Maxwell-the-whole-story-so-far&p=1675996&viewfull=1#post1675996) can be understood: Bring on the solar flare.

(That will definitely happen (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-&p=1643336&viewfull=1#post1643336), btw. It's all gonna come down. But for that, we'll just have to wait patiently for a few more years. :flower:)

:focus:

I can certainly sympathize with Bill's and Ben's sentiments.

Dumpster Diver
8th July 2025, 19:08
I think Ben's despair and temporary falling off the wagon is quite understandable in view of yesterday's news which he was reacting to.
Which had to do in part with the blatant coverup concerning Jeffrey Epstein that apparently Trump is supporting.
See the thread where Bill posted this:

If this was a movie, Dan Bongino would call a press conference this morning. On live TV, he would state that he had been ordered to lie and that he was resigning with immediate effect. But for legal reasons, he regrets he cannot take any questions or say any more at all.

He'd never have a job in government ever again. But he'd be the citizens' hero, and the whole rotten DC edifice would crumble and fall.

However, Bongino and his family have probably already been threatened. So he's chosen not to be a martyr about this.

Ben Davidson's heartfelt plea (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107734-Jeffrey-Epstein-Ghislaine-Maxwell-the-whole-story-so-far&p=1675996&viewfull=1#post1675996) can be understood: Bring on the solar flare.

(That will definitely happen (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-&p=1643336&viewfull=1#post1643336), btw. It's all gonna come down. But for that, we'll just have to wait patiently for a few more years. :flower:)

:focus:

I can certainly sympathize with Bill's and Ben's sentiments.

Yeah, the simulation is ending in 4 years anyway.

onawah
8th July 2025, 19:14
Simulation of what?


I think Ben's despair and temporary falling off the wagon is quite understandable in view of yesterday's news which he was reacting to.
Which had to do in part with the blatant coverup concerning Jeffrey Epstein that apparently Trump is supporting.
See the thread where Bill posted this:

If this was a movie, Dan Bongino would call a press conference this morning. On live TV, he would state that he had been ordered to lie and that he was resigning with immediate effect. But for legal reasons, he regrets he cannot take any questions or say any more at all.

He'd never have a job in government ever again. But he'd be the citizens' hero, and the whole rotten DC edifice would crumble and fall.

However, Bongino and his family have probably already been threatened. So he's chosen not to be a martyr about this.

Ben Davidson's heartfelt plea (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107734-Jeffrey-Epstein-Ghislaine-Maxwell-the-whole-story-so-far&p=1675996&viewfull=1#post1675996) can be understood: Bring on the solar flare.

(That will definitely happen (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-&p=1643336&viewfull=1#post1643336), btw. It's all gonna come down. But for that, we'll just have to wait patiently for a few more years. :flower:)

:focus:

I can certainly sympathize with Bill's and Ben's sentiments.

Yeah, the simulation is ending in 4 years anyway.

onawah
8th July 2025, 20:10
Never mind...I think you must mean the simulation of this 3D reality, and the prediction some have made (Doug Vogt I think was the origin of that) that the micronova will occur in 2029, right? (Although those are 2 different things--the micronova won't make everything in this 3D reality simply disappear. )
Ben didn't agree with that date, BTW, and has said he doesn't think it's possible to pinpoint a date by any scientific means.
But in view of the recent updated scientific data, he thinks that the process is speeding up to the point where the micronova is likely to occur sooner than his previous estimation which was late 2040s at the latest.
Now he's estimating sometime in the 2030s, so for Preppers the pressure is on even more now in terms of deadlines.


Yeah, the simulation is ending in 4 years anyway.

neutronstar
9th July 2025, 01:32
Never mind...I think you must mean the simulation of this 3D reality, and the prediction some have made (Doug Vogt I think was the origin of that) that the micronova will occur in 2029, right? (Although those are 2 different things--the micronova won't make everything in this 3D reality simply disappear. )
Ben didn't agree with that date, BTW, and has said he doesn't think it's possible to pinpoint a date by any scientific means.
But in view of the recent updated scientific data, he thinks that the process is speeding up to the point where the micronova is likely to occur sooner than his previous estimation which was late 2040s at the latest.
Now he's estimating sometime in the 2030s, so for Preppers the pressure is on even more now in terms of deadlines.


Yeah, the simulation is ending in 4 years anyway.

Doug never said the micronova would happen in 2029. He has always stated that he believes the micronova would happen at the end of the gleissberg cycle in 2046. The Sun operates in cycles and it is only logical that if it happened it will be at the end of a gliessberg cycle.

onawah
9th July 2025, 01:36
Apologies--my bad. I think there was someone else who said 2029 and that was getting some attention, so Ben said once again it was too iffy to accurately predict such an exact date.


Never mind...I think you must mean the simulation of this 3D reality, and the prediction some have made (Doug Vogt I think was the origin of that) that the micronova will occur in 2029, right? (Although those are 2 different things--the micronova won't make everything in this 3D reality simply disappear. )
Ben didn't agree with that date, BTW, and has said he doesn't think it's possible to pinpoint a date by any scientific means.
But in view of the recent updated scientific data, he thinks that the process is speeding up to the point where the micronova is likely to occur sooner than his previous estimation which was late 2040s at the latest.
Now he's estimating sometime in the 2030s, so for Preppers the pressure is on even more now in terms of deadlines.


Yeah, the simulation is ending in 4 years anyway.

Doug never said the micronova would happen in 2029. He has always stated that he believes the micronova would happen at the end of the gleissberg cycle in 2046. The Sun operates in cycles and it is only logical that if it happened it will be at the end of a gliessberg cycle.

onawah
16th July 2025, 04:23
If there are still any doubts, Observer Ranch looks very legit, activities there are ongoing, and money that donors have contributed has been used to create what is obviously a genuine educational and recreational facility for Preppers.
(This post is not meant as an advertisement; I have not been to Observer Ranch myself, but judging from the various social media sites being used to inform about what activities are being scheduled there for the public, it certainly looks nothing like a cult, unless you consider all Preppers to be of a cult mentality.)
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Johnnycomelately
16th July 2025, 05:50
If there are still any doubts, Observer Ranch looks very legit, activities there are ongoing, and money that donors have contributed has been used to create what is obviously a genuine educational and recreational facility for Preppers.
(This post is not meant as an advertisement; I have not been to Observer Ranch myself, but judging from the various social media sites being used to inform about what activities are being scheduled there for the public, it certainly looks nothing like a cult, unless you consider all Preppers to be of a cult mentality.)

Nobody is saying that Ben is not a good businessman. When I was subscribed to his dot org website, his numbers (yearly $ X subscriber #) gave at least $1m /year. Been a few years, I quit before he shut that site down, figure of $1.5m /year comes to mind.

This thread is an odd place to extol Ben’s business acumen. If anything, your lengthy praise affirms the thread title’s speculation that Ben is collecting brainwashed cult members.

Regardless of the verity of Ben’s observations and interpretations and predictions (to me, some are good and some are wacky), the fact is that his long form rants are characterized by talking and looking down on his audience. That is bullying. You can’t negate that by pointing out that many people are lining up to buy his various services.

I recall that you petitioned our Bill ardently and long, to de-legitimize the thread about that ~”World Controller” chick. Your championing of this guy is in that same bucket.

Thread question: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?. To me, the answer is yes.

onawah
16th July 2025, 08:38
I think you really need to examine much more closely what have proven to be cults.
Cults generally are secretive and put the lives of the followers in danger, while Ben and his team are doing as much as they can to save lives, and doing it very openly.
I agree that there is much to be desired when it comes to Ben and public relations on his Q&As, but an inability to suffer fools gladly doesn't mean he is a cult leader.
What it does demonstrate is probably a keen and cogent awareness of how very little time there may be left to prepare for what is coming, and of how much responsibility he has put on his own shoulders by making others aware and determined enough to take on preparing for it themselves.
He encourages others not to rely on him, but to take responsibility for themselves, which is contrary to what cult leaders do.

What I value above all is his willingness to risk making public the knowledge that he has very painstakingly accumulated over years of dedicated research, even though that makes him extremely vulnerable to attacks, not only from the sleeping mainstream public who prefer to remain in denial, but from the puppet masters who have obviously been very unwilling to let the public know what they have no doubt known for a long time about the coming cataclysms.
I think he is painfully aware of the dangerous situation that puts him in, but it hasn't stopped him.
The fact that he hasn't stopped there, but has actually laid the groundwork for an ongoing center for educating others in how to survive, as well as helped to form a community of Preppers, is to his credit.
Especially since there is no guarantee at all that it will succeed in view of how much he exposes the puppet masters' psychotic agendas.

It's easy to pass judgement on others who have exposed themselves to danger and exposed their own frailties, even at the risk of the vilification of others, and all for the sake of the others, and so your arguments and judgements don't impress me.
Even if he fails, at least he has done his best in doing what few others would ever even attempt, and succeeded in awakening many to the coming changes.

I have long felt that intentional, sustainable communities will be the future of humanity after the coming changes, though I didn't know for a long time anything about what those changes would actually be.
I did think monumental changes were coming, but I didn't realize until recently that they would be akin to the changes that bring about an entirely new Age and a restart for humanity, akin to the times of the Great Flood and the sinking of Atlantis.
It was decades ago that I took classes at the intentional community founded by my late mentor, Dr. Christopher Hills, and read his books. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills )
He was a brilliant visionary who foresaw in part what would be required by humankind in the future, and shared his prediction that intentional communities would play a huge role in the reshaping of civilization, unlikely as that seemed at the time.

I don't think Ben is as great a humanitarian or a genius on the order of someone like Dr. Hills, but he is a very intelligent and brave man simply for trying to come to grips with these huge challenges and revealing the truth to others, and even more so for going further once he learned the truth by trying to do something positive to forestall calamity for as many other people as he can.
If I may ask, have you done anything akin to that, and if not, why do you feel you are so well equipped to pass judgment on him for attempting to tackle this huge dilemma?
Personally, I think that you may be suffering from a kind of denial, as many are, and you are masking that, even to yourself, by targeting someone who represents a threat to that denial, and using that as a distraction so as to keep yourself in a kind of false comfort zone.
It's understandable, because what the inhabitants of this planet are about to undergo is terrifying and will be traumatic.
3D Earth reality is a hard school, no doubt about it, and it's about to get a lot harder.
But I think it's much better to support those who are trying so hard to make a positive difference.
Or you might create some bad karma you might really wish you hadn't.
It's coming down to the line even more rapidly now than was previously estimated. :clock:
Time to wake up. :nerd:


Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?. To me, the answer is yes.

Johnnycomelately
16th July 2025, 09:26
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But I think it's much better to support those who are trying so hard to make a positive difference.
Or you might create some bad karma you might really wish you hadn't.
It's coming down to the line even more rapidly now than was previously estimated. :clock:
Time to wake up. :nerd:


Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?. To me, the answer is yes.

Lady, I know what karma is, and it ain’t that. All your many words are just witness to your enthralment with a doomsday cult.

I’ve mentioned it elsewhere, that I mightily dislike when somebody tries to make me fear what they fear. So, I reject your offer here, the implied request that I be as sceered as you are, or as you claim to be.

Cheers anyway. ♥️😎

onawah
16th July 2025, 21:56
Once again, you have missed the point.
I'm not afraid of the coming disasters, I'm actually relieved, and I am asking nothing of you at all.
You are most certainly free to believe whatever you choose.
It's the machinations of the evil elite that could cause much worse disasters for the human race than anything natural, and I find that to be much more fearsome than the natural cycles of the Sun.
But thankfully, they just can't fool Mother Nature, and never could.
If I'm enthralled with anything, it's with the cycles of Nature and the progression of the Yugas, the dance of Maya which endlessly changes.
On the other side of this cycle is a new one which will be better than this one was, as the upward progression toward an Age of more Light begins once again.
Though it will definitely take a much longer time to get there than the New Agers want to believe (or than I once did).
Not having so many doubts and questions anymore is actually a tremendous relief. :nod:

onawah
17th July 2025, 22:07
It's mind-boggling to me that anyone would actually compare the subject of the geomagnetic pole reversal which is being discussed by experts all over the world (in spite of the puppet masters' attempts to obfuscate and hide it), and the validity of which is central to the discussions on this thread (and the one featuring the following recent post).
...Compared with the subject of the absurd scams of Kim Goguen --the ”World Controller chick" (who almost makes David Wilcock and Corey Goode look good) and who Bill Ryan admitted early on was a source of complete nonsense (whereas he thinks Ben Davidson's conclusions are spot on).
Goguen and Davidson are polar opposites.
In any case, I have never tried to whitewash Davidson's particular personality quirks, but have pointed them out as much here as anyone has.

The validity of the information concerning the geomagnetic pole reversal is highlighted here:

Apocalypse When? Ben Davidson on DarkHorse LIVE
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"Bret and Ben discuss potential impacts of the sun on humanity in the coming days."

Find Ben Davidson on X: @SunWeatherMan ( / sunweatherman )

w0Gz7w3l_uEThe 6000 year super flare from our sun and what causes it (Bret Weinstein & Ben Davidson)

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"Excerpt from Ben Davidson guest episode livestream during the recent huge solar flare-up.

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I don't feel any need to defend the information that Ben has been sharing, and the fact that he is getting the attention more and more of people like Bret Weinstein, Kim Iversen, Tim Pool, publications like Zero Hedge and many more credible sources (and probably the great whistleblower C.A. Fitts soon as well if her recent discussion with Tucker Carlson is any indication).
As for your accusations about my being in thrall to Ben as a cult leader, I will just expand a bit on my history of long, ongoing interest in intentional and spiritual communities over decades, since I was in my 20s in fact, some of which I have visited and/or frequented/been a member of.
That interest was only recently paired with my interest in the geomagnetic pole reversal.
But I have never had any interest or been attracted at all to cults, and especially cults that are patriarchal in structure.
I don't see any basis for the inference that Davidson's community might be a cult; which seems very clear to me since I've reviewed the available information about it extensively.
And it seems clear that it is also not patriarchal in structure, but is very family oriented.
Ben's ex-wife is still actively involved in the administration there, and that seems proof enough to me, considering how messy their divorce was.
I am interested in Davidson's community because of their dual goals of Prepping and of educating the public as a humanitarian effort.
Not in Davidson's personality, other than how that affects the goals of that community.
The goal of sensible sustainable, intentional communities now has to include Prepping if there is any chance of them surviving, and even of being successful in the short term.
I will be 77 soon, am disabled and don't entertain any possibility of joining a community myself (though if I were younger and more able, I might be, but that is neither here nor there).
I continue to use this forum as a way of continuing to be in service to others and educating myself.
But as far as this nonsensical discussion with you is concerned, I am done.


I recall that you petitioned our Bill ardently and long, to de-legitimize the thread about that ~”World Controller” chick. Your championing of this guy is in that same bucket.

All your many words are just witness to your enthralment with a doomsday cult.

onawah
22nd July 2025, 00:16
Ben in mellow mode. At 30 minutes in, he says that many visitors at the Ranch remark on how he is nothing like the salty guy on the past live Q&As. Two of his kids stop by to give him a hug and kiss. I'd say he's in recovery now.

Ben is LIVE now, very mellow and answering a lot of good Prepper questions.
Live from Observer Ranch
SpaceWeatherNews (S0)
821K subscribers
Started streaming 32 minutes ago 7/21/25
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Johnnycomelately
22nd July 2025, 08:01
Ben in mellow mode. At 30 minutes in, he says that many visitors at the Ranch remark on how he is nothing like the salty guy on the past live Q&As. Two of his kids stop by to give him a hug and kiss. I'd say he's in recovery now.

Ben is LIVE now, very mellow and answering a lot of good Prepper questions.
Live from Observer Ranch
SpaceWeatherNews (S0)
821K subscribers
Started streaming 32 minutes ago 7/21/25
VRUys3mwilE

Am listening to this now, 32:20/56:07. OK 33:43 for silence.

This is a soft power pitch., imo. The weird eyes are still there, and the fact that he had his kids come hug him on cam, that is borderline weird.


Ben, if you read here, I wish you the best. If you decide to dial back on your ego, please do it carefully, one step at a time. You do have time to do it right the first time. Cheers from Alberta.

onawah
23rd July 2025, 19:58
Anyone still following this thread who is waiting for a rebuttal from me in reply to the above post--I have put Johnny on my Ignore List, so there won't be one.
It's a waste of time to debate, when anyone who is really interested in the subject of Ben Davidson's work would be well advised to go to his websites to see if his operation is legitimate or not, or listen to the many interviews he has given to various sources online.
I think the truth is obvious, but it's probably more of a question as to whether you are convinced that the information he is disseminating is accurate or not.
And that may be more a question of what you want to believe...

Delight
23rd July 2025, 21:05
I think the truth is obvious, but it's probably more of a question as to whether you are convinced that the information he is disseminating is accurate or not.
And that may be more a question of what you want to believe...

The world is so much more strange and mysterious than one may even imagine because all we can imagine is all we CAN imagine.

I wish him and all the best. Today is the best day ever.