Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Too early for details, but apparently alternative media personality Charlie Kirk has been shot.

Dreadful if true.

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https://x.com/pdubdev/status/1965844906364252411

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Shot in the neck, and it sounds bad! :pray: :pray:

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https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1965852079307759991

[Mike]

wow, wow, wow

my friend just called and told me he's dead. I don't know how he knows that, but he told me that and hung up almost immediately so I couldn't get further details

i'm not surprised, but I'm shocked to my core

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Not confirmed dead that I've seen (yet), I pray he isn't, my God. But it's viral on X right now, even Trump has posted a message.

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[Eric J (Viking)]

Not confirmed dead that I've seen (yet), I pray he isn't, my God. But it's viral on X right now, even Trump has posted a message.

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https://x.com/NEWSMAX/status/1965860460705755320

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https://x.com/AGPamBondi/status/1965852918567121176

From what I saw I’d be surprised if he survived that. 😡

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Allegedly alive.

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https://x.com/Timcast/status/1965867941477663164
Tim Pool
@Timcast
Charlie is alive and in critical condition. AP reporting

[Bill Ryan]

Redacted is reporting (live on air now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KARWCoXQgDo)) that "prayers seem to have worked"... he had a pulse when he was admitted to hospital, and his condition is reported to be 'critical but stable'.

:flower:

[SilentFeathers]

wow, wow, wow

my friend just called and told me he's dead. I don't know how he knows that, but he told me that and hung up almost immediately so I couldn't get further details

i'm not surprised, but I'm shocked to my core

No one's confirmed he's dead yet, I'll be surprised if he survives, that looked like a fatal shot for sure.

This isn't going to stop, many lunatics are celebrating this and consider nothing wrong with killing conservatives.

[Mike]

wow, wow, wow

my friend just called and told me he's dead. I don't know how he knows that, but he told me that and hung up almost immediately so I couldn't get further details

i'm not surprised, but I'm shocked to my core


Sorry for this guys!:heart: I shouldn't have posted it without knowing for sure.

Just talked to my friend again. He said he saw some footage of it and just assumed by the severity of it that there's no way he could have survived.

[Bill Ryan]

It's just been reported on Redacted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KARWCoXQgDo) that Charlie Kirk has died.

:flower:

[grapevine]

It's just been reported on Redacted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KARWCoXQgDo) that Charlie Kirk has died.

:flower:

When you see the close-up footage of the actual shooting which is currently on X, in all honesty he could never have survived, sadly.

[RunningDeer]

Note: Charlie Kirk is blurred out.


Charlie Kirk Shot: Viral Videos Capture Horrifying Moment (1 min)

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[mountain_jim]

Yes - in last 15 minutes multiple sources confirming he has passed.

Meanwhile the propaganda networks are gaslighting and blaming this on his rhetoric, not theirs.

https://x.com/thecjpearson/status/1965859707161293143

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updated

https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1965879198146506911

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charlie was one of the more moderate rw voices out there but it doesnt matter. they’re celebrating, they see you all at the same level, you’re all nazis & you deserve it for even having opinions libs had 20 years ago. these people are sick.



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David Santa Carla 🦇
@TheOnlyDSC
JB Pritzker just blamed Charlie Kirk being shot in Utah on President Trump and January 6th.

Unbelievable.




William Wolfe 🇺🇸
@William_E_Wolfe
This gets even worse when you consider that Charlie Kirk—more than anyone else in America on the right or the left—built his platform making a good faith effort to model civil poltical discourse and debate in the public square.

His entire project was built on reaching across the divide and using speech, not violence, to address and resolve the issues!


JD Vance
@JDVance
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This is such a good point. If you actually watch Charlie’s events—as opposed to the fake summaries—they are one of the few places with open and honest dialogue between left and right. He would answer any question and talk to everyone.



from

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shots-reportedly-fired-charlie-kirk-event-utah-valley-university

Civil terrorism expert Jason Curtis Anderson (https://x.com/JCAndersonNYC) of One City Rising states:

The assassination of Charlie Kirk marks a dangerous escalation in America’s culture war—where the battle of ideas is now escalating into political violence against those who run organizations devoted to debate and civil discourse. Very few people grasp the gravity of this moment (read more here (https://www.city-journal.org/article/civil-terrorism-anti-israel-radicals)). Incidents like this don’t exist in isolation; they risk triggering a chain of events that can further destabilize the country.

Whether it’s the anti-ICE movement, pro-Palestinian agitators, anarchist networks, or NGO-backed permanent protest groups like Indivisible, we are watching the rise of something new and deeply alarming. As Tal Fortgang wrote in City Journal, America is entering a new era of civil terrorism—where the goal is no longer peaceful protest, but intimidation, silencing, and destabilization of our democratic order.

RIP Kirk.

[SilentFeathers]

Outlets are started to report that he's died.

There's also several reports the shooter has not been identified nor arrested yet.

[SilentFeathers]

Meanwhile the propaganda networks are gaslighting and blaming this on his rhetoric, not theirs.



This is exactly why this will not stop but most certainly escalate. These lunatics are gonna start picking off influential conservatives one by one.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I followed Charlie and cannot believe he's gone.
He died for the truth.
Sad day indeed.

The RAV family and millions of TPUSA members are in shock and grieving his loss.
He is survived by his wife and two small children...

Trump owes him a lot, perhaps even his victory in 2024.

He will be sorely missed.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

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[mountain_jim]

Charlie Kirk's last post on X before he was shot (image only from ZH link) (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shots-reportedly-fired-charlie-kirk-event-utah-valley-university):


https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/2025-09-10_15-06-58_0.png?itok=raNCtbZX

[SilentFeathers]

This is strange, another "roof shooter"?????

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1965888453998243907

[ExomatrixTV]

BREAKING: Charlie Kirk Assassinated, Suspect At Large

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The Charlie Kirk Show (https://rumble.com/c/CharlieKirk/videos?e9s=src_v1_cmd)

1.64M Followers!


rumble.com/search/all?q=Charlie 0Kirk (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Charlie%20Kirk)





His very last broadcast?

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[Matthew]

Charlie Kirk would have had a civilized debate with anyone, a rare gentleman debater. A devout Christian no doubt he would have prayed to God in Jesus Christ's name for his assassin to be forgiven if he had time. He's with God now, rest in peace.

[Bill Ryan]

Megyn Kelly has just ended a 2 hour live video. She was admirably professional, as one would expect, but also very emotional. Charlie Kirk was her friend. :flower:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goia3bx9aZ8

[mountain_jim]

The Middle-earth Mixer
@MiddleearthMixr
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1h
Charlie Kirk is the most vanilla and least threatening Conservative out there. A happy enjoyer of debate and conversation and father to two beautiful children.

And they still shot him.


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Wall Street Mav
@WallStreetMav
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Headline from yesterday about his appearance in Utah.
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Kai Schwemmer

@KaiSchwemmer
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This headline from yesterday is insane.


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Mollie
@MZHemingway
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1h
I began warning about the media's "assassination prep" rhetoric in December of 2023. We have a very serious problem with the media and other prominent Democrat activists prepping the ground for open season on and assassination of conservatives.



Mollie
@MZHemingway
This extreme and dangerous genre -- of claiming Trump is Hitler (because, they say, he might do what Democrats are doing right now) -- should probably be given the name "Assassination Prep."



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Nick Sortor
@nicksortor
🚨 WTF?! MSNBC is ALREADY back to demonizing Charlie Kirk, just MINUTES after he was shot in Utah

Katy Tur called him “a divisive figure, polarizing, lightning rod. What ever term you want to use.”

The left is absolutely VILE!


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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
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They are not human. Fire them all.
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Right Angle News Network

@Rightanglenews
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BREAKING - MSNBC anchor Katy Tur is facing demands to be immediately fired after claiming President Trump plans to use the shooting of Charlie Kirk “as justification for something.”

[Ravenlocke]

BREAKING: Netanyahu calls Charlie Kirk a 'lion-hearted friend of Israel' and an 'incredible human being'

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[Adi]

viewing the video of shooting, it's hard not conclude that this was a sophisticated shooter. One fatal shot to his neck. You don't just fire a shot like that without experience and a high degree of accuracy. If the roof shooter claim is true, that to me is another indicator of a professionally abled shooter. Horrific footage of the end of this young man's life.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1965900108945645837

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https://qudsnen.co/charlie-kirk-assassinated-what-we-know-so-far/

Charlie Kirk Assassinated: What We Know So Far

Utah (Quds News Network)- Charlie Kirk, the zionist pro-genocide activist and co-founder of Turning Point USA, was shot dead during an event at Utah Valley University. US President Donald Trump confirmed Kirk’s death a few hours later on social media, calling him a “great American.”

The Shooting

The attack happened on Wednesday while Kirk was speaking to students. Video footage shows him collapse mid-sentence after being struck by a single bullet to the neck.

Officials report that the single fatal shot, which struck Kirk in the neck, originated from a building approximately 200 yards away. The precision and execution of the attack indicate a highly professional operation. At the same time, a man in the crowd, later identified as Michael Mallinson, was detained by campus police. While being held, he shouted repeatedly, “shoot me!” His behavior created confusion that may have helped the gunman escape. Police later released Mallinson, saying he was not the shooter.

As of now, no suspect is in custody. Orem police are leading the investigation, with support from Utah Valley University campus police. The FBI has been monitoring the situation and is providing assistance as needed.

Is Israel Involved?

Kirk was a high-profile voice on the American right. He founded Turning Point USA in 2012 and became a central figure in Donald Trump’s youth movement. He was also known for his unlimited support for Israel and its crimes against Palestinians.

But he has been recently facing outrage by zionists. Last month, he was smeared by Israel supporters who accused him of antisemitism. The clash came after he warned that the Trump administration’s crackdown on pro-Palestinian activism risked violating free speech.

Harrison H. Smith, host of The American Journal, wrote online that Kirk had privately feared for his life. According to Smith, a source close to Kirk told him Kirk believed Israel might kill him if he ever turned against its policies.

Kirk’s Pro-Genocide Statements

Kirk repeatedly defended Israel’s genocide in Gaza and often blamed Palestinians for their own deaths. In one post, he compared Gaza to World War II Japan.

He wrote: “The deaths of women and children in Gaza are the fault of Hamas, not Israel, just like the deaths in Japan during World War 2 were the fault of Japan, not America.”

Critics said his statements showed contempt for Palestinian civilians and amounted to support for genocide.

[SilentFeathers]

This is about to get insanely interesting....and probably completely ridiculous.

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1965904151088607634

[Bill Ryan]

This is about to get insanely interesting....and probably completely ridiculous.

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1965904151088607634That may not be accurate... his post was over an hour ago, and may have referred to the wrong guy (the elderly man) that was initially apprehended.

[SilentFeathers]

This is about to get insanely interesting....and probably completely ridiculous.

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1965904151088607634That may not be accurate... his post was over an hour ago, and may have referred to the wrong guy (the elderly man) that was initially apprehended.

This is from Patel's X page;

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1965903392934633587

[Ravenlocke]

Quds News Network,

Breaking | According to AP, the detained elderly man has no connection to the shooting.


https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1965880266897101266

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https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1965880266897101266

[SilentFeathers]

I don't see where they have anyone in custody. For Patel to post this is completely ridiculous.

[neutronstar]

This smells like a panicked deep state trying silence there opposition and a warning to others in the alt media. Shut the F up. Maybe a crazy leftist, but I doubt it.

[Ernie Nemeth]

The Utah Sheriff said during the news conference that they have a second suspect in custody.

[ExomatrixTV]

x.com/charliekirk11 (https://x.com/charliekirk11)
5,4 mln. followers


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source (https://x.com/Jere_Memez/status/1965865611919331782)

[SilentFeathers]

Ironically, I personally and absolutely believe this is truly a "Turning Point". An "enough is enough" type of moment.

This reeks of a Butler Pennsylvania type of event. I know it's early but I've got a bad feeling about this.

The media I'm sure will try to sweep this under the rug, but it absolutely will not go away and will have consequences....

[ExomatrixTV]

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[rgray222]

I was going to put this on the Great Quotes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8309-The-Great-Quotes-thread&p=71497&viewfull=1#post71497) thread but I think it is more appropriate here on this day


Hate can not drive out hate, only love can do that.
Martin Luther King.

[Ravenlocke]

Scott Ritter,

There are many people who disagreed with much of what Charlie Kirk said.

This is ok; freedom of expression allows for such disagreement.

But the solution ideas articulated by people you disagree with is for you to articulate better ideas, and engage in the kind of intellectual debate, dialogue and discussion that makes America better.

The solution is never to suppress these voices through violence.

The murder of Charlie Kirk will have a chilling effect on those, like me, who publicly give voice to ideas some people take exception to.

Free speech isn’t free if one fears for their life by simply speaking out.

Do better, America.

Before it’s too late.

https://x.com/RealScottRitter/status/1965891605334020473

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[Matthew]

Jonathan Cahn responds to the news that Charlie Kirk was shot, and argues the case it's Biblically demonic.

He says Charlie wanted to talk to him about his book: Return of the gods.

Jonathan talks about a previous shooter's obsession with demon stuff, and occurrences where death count patterns match the Biblical anti-Christ number 3 sixes.

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[Matthew]

"Official update"


"After much confusion over who might be detained over the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the FBI announced they have a person of interest in custody, who is separate from the first person reportedly arrested during the shooting today."

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[thepainterdoug]

i am beyond disgusted. I was 10 years olf when JFK was killed. I have the same sick feeling in me today. A beautiful young man, a beautiful family and a true lover of this great country america. I promise myself I will be better on a personal level as well as reaching out to others.
Stand up to corruption that is trying to take this great country down

ohh btw Matthew Dowd is complete ****!

[rgray222]

I am not sure how, why, or what is to come, but this feels very different. Something is rumbling below the surface, it may take a long time before it gets here, but the gates have been opened

[ExomatrixTV]

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[SilentFeathers]

I am not sure how, why, or what is to come, but this feels very different. Something is rumbling below the surface, it may take a long time before it gets here, but the gates have been opened

I've watched the clip of Charlie getting shot several times and in my opinion, the rifle used was a large caliber with a suppressor. My guess is perhaps a 308cal. Many say the shooter was approx. 200 yards away; an easy shot with a good scope, little to no wind, and a sighted in rifle for 200 yards.....but not an easy shot for a stressed out lunatic with very little experience with guns.

Shooter lays on the roof and waits for Charlie to actually sit down and become still...this is methodical and a sign of patience and at some level, rather skilled in the kill. Either a hunter, military, or even a trained killer.

....and then the shooter disappears in to thin air.

I highly doubt it was a deranged lunatic.

I think you're right, this feels different, more like a planned hit, somewhat like the Butler event.

[Rizotto]

I'm so sorry for this terrible assassination. As a Canadian, I admit to knowing very little about Charlie Kirk. The only thing I vaguely recall is that he allowed criticism of Israel (or the lobby?) on his show once. (I don't even remember the context.) It's concerning that this shooting appears to be of the 'professional' type.

It would be interesting to know more about Charlie Kirk's views, which might point as to why would anybody want to kill him.
- Did Charlie Kirk promote 'America First', such as placing focus and resources towards fixing USA's internal problems? Did he ever criticize Trump?
- Or was Kirk an 'Israel First'? Did he promote USA's military support to Israel, wars abroad, attacks on Venezuela?
- Did Charlie Kirk criticize USA's support for Ukraine?
- Or was he just into dialogue from both sides, and welcomed different points of view?

[Bill Ryan]

I'm so sorry for this terrible assassination. As a Canadian, I admit to knowing very little about Charlie Kirk. The only thing I vaguely recall is that he allowed criticism of Israel (or the lobby?) on his show once. (I don't even remember the context.) It's concerning that this shooting appears to be of the 'professional' type.

It would be interesting to know more about Charlie Kirk's views, which might point as to why would anybody want to kill him.
- Did Charlie Kirk promote 'America First', such as placing focus and resources towards fixing USA's internal problems? Did he ever criticize Trump?
- Or was Kirk an 'Israel First'? Did he promote USA's military support to Israel, wars abroad, attacks on Venezuela?
- Did Charlie Kirk criticize USA's support for Ukraine?
- Or was he just into dialogue from both sides, and welcomed different points of view?Here (below) is part of a complex and multifaceted answer. But he was admired for his willingness to dialogue in depth with anyone about anything at all.

One of the comments, which I think states things correctly, says:
Charlie Kirk loved Israel. He said, “Israel changed my life. Strengthened my faith, made the Bible pop into reality, and gave me the most precious memories with Erika.”

Rest in Peace, Charlie Kirk, a leader and a strong defender of the State of Israel. Sending love and light to his kids and his family.

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[Mike]

I'm so sorry for this terrible assassination. As a Canadian, I admit to knowing very little about Charlie Kirk. The only thing I vaguely recall is that he allowed criticism of Israel (or the lobby?) on his show once. (I don't even remember the context.) It's concerning that this shooting appears to be of the 'professional' type.

It would be interesting to know more about Charlie Kirk's views, which might point as to why would anybody want to kill him.
- Did Charlie Kirk promote 'America First', such as placing focus and resources towards fixing USA's internal problems? Did he ever criticize Trump?
- Or was Kirk an 'Israel First'? Did he promote USA's military support to Israel, wars abroad, attacks on Venezuela?
- Did Charlie Kirk criticize USA's support for Ukraine?
- Or was he just into dialogue from both sides, and welcomed different points of view?


He was America first all the way. He was Trump all the way (next to Elon maybe most responsible for helping him get elected). He was an unapologetic Christian and defender of American culture and way of life. And a supporter of Israel.

He died defending those things.

As Bill said he was willing to talk to anyone, anytime. He wasn't antagonistic. He was as polite as you could possibly be in those sorts of tense environments. He was tireless, super cheerful, and endlessly patriotic.

[ExomatrixTV]

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Ben Shapiro:

Like all of you, I am utterly stunned and heartbroken and sick to my soul today. It is unimaginable to write these words. I met Charlie Kirk when he was 18 years old, a young man so eager and determined that I immediately turned to a friend and said, “That kid is going to be the head of the RNC one day.” Charlie became even bigger and more important than that. It was a privilege to watch this principled man stand up for his beliefs and create the single most important conservative political organization in America. But more importantly, Charlie was a good man, a man who believed in right and wrong, who stood by his Biblical values. All of us will miss him, and I can’t imagine the pain of his beautiful young family, and we must all pray for them. And we must pick up the baton where Charlie left it, fighting for the things he believed in so passionately. And we must fight for a better America - an America where good people can speak truth and debate passionately without fear of a bullet. I weep for Charlie’s family, and I weep for my country today. Most of all, I weep for Charlie.


source (https://x.com/benshapiro/status/1965882795210977411)

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[SilentFeathers]

I'm so sorry for this terrible assassination. As a Canadian, I admit to knowing very little about Charlie Kirk. The only thing I vaguely recall is that he allowed criticism of Israel (or the lobby?) on his show once. (I don't even remember the context.) It's concerning that this shooting appears to be of the 'professional' type.

It would be interesting to know more about Charlie Kirk's views, which might point as to why would anybody want to kill him.
- Did Charlie Kirk promote 'America First', such as placing focus and resources towards fixing USA's internal problems? Did he ever criticize Trump?
- Or was Kirk an 'Israel First'? Did he promote USA's military support to Israel, wars abroad, attacks on Venezuela?
- Did Charlie Kirk criticize USA's support for Ukraine?
- Or was he just into dialogue from both sides, and welcomed different points of view?


He was America first all the way. He was Trump all the way (next to Elon maybe most responsible for helping him get elected). He was an unapologetic Christian and defender of American culture and way of life. And a supporter of Israel.

He died defending those things.

As Bill said he was willing to talk to anyone, anytime. He wasn't antagonistic. He was as polite as you could possibly be in those sorts of tense environments. He was tireless, super cheerful, and endlessly patriotic.

Charlie Kirk was in a way a generational leader, influencing the minds of many young people, causing several to think for themselves.

Going to Universities and throwing a wrench in the demonic indoctrination program was an extremely dangerous thing for him to do, actually quite deadly.

[Raskolnikov]

Cue the intrigue...

Witness to Kirk Assassination Believes It Was ‘Setup’ Operation, ‘Multiple People Involved’

A witness interviewed in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination said he believed it was a carefully orchestrated multi-person operation.

The man told reporters he had just finished speaking with Kirk when he overheard the person next in line at the Utah Valley University event mention wanting to ask about transgenderism, however, when they took the podium they asked about shootings instead.

“After I got done talking to him I really couldn’t exit because there was such a big crowd and so I turned around and about 10-20 seconds later after I got done talking to Charlie I saw that he was shot in the neck and just squirting blood everywhere. But I was piecing things together and it was really weird because the second guest I talked to before I went and asked him the question…he was talking to him about how he was gonna ask about transgenderism or something like that, but…nothing about shootings,” the man described...

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https://www.infowars.com/posts/watch-witness-to-kirk-assassination-believes-it-was-setup-operation-multiple-people-involved

[rgray222]

For those who don't fully understand the impact of Charlie Kirk (https://www.charliekirk.com), here is a quick snapshot. It doesn't really tell who the man was but it is a quick look at the numbers. He will be sorely missed.


He was a conservative political activist, podcaster, and author
He was the founder of Turning Point (https://tpusa.com/), the largest and fastest-growing conservative youth organizations in the U.S. and the world
Turning Point has a presence on more than 3,000 to 3,500 campuses
Turning Point has 250,000 student members
Turning Point has 350 full-time staff
He held campus events designed to energize conservative youth and inform students of conservative points of view and values
His campus events were called "Prove Me Wrong", encouraging questions from people who disagreed with him
He was frequently labelled the happy warrior because he tried to debate facts in a polite and respectful way
He hosted The Charlie Kirk Show, a daily podcast. This podcast had 500,000 - 750,000 daily downloads (he surpassed 130 million downloads in 2023)
He had 7.3 million followers on TikTok
He had 14 million followers, 3.8 million subscribers on YouTube and reached 100 - 150 million people monthly. He amassed more than 1.07 billion views.
He had 5 million followers on X (Twitter)
He had 7 million followers on Instagram\
He was a New York Times and Amazon best-selling author

[DNA]

Yes - in last 15 minutes multiple sources confirming he has passed.

Meanwhile the propaganda networks are gaslighting and blaming this on his rhetoric, not theirs.

https://x.com/thecjpearson/status/1965859707161293143

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updated

https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1965879198146506911

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charlie was one of the more moderate rw voices out there but it doesnt matter. they’re celebrating, they see you all at the same level, you’re all nazis & you deserve it for even having opinions libs had 20 years ago. these people are sick.



https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1965875971963367836

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David Santa Carla 🦇
@TheOnlyDSC
JB Pritzker just blamed Charlie Kirk being shot in Utah on President Trump and January 6th.

Unbelievable.




William Wolfe 🇺🇸
@William_E_Wolfe
This gets even worse when you consider that Charlie Kirk—more than anyone else in America on the right or the left—built his platform making a good faith effort to model civil poltical discourse and debate in the public square.

His entire project was built on reaching across the divide and using speech, not violence, to address and resolve the issues!


JD Vance
@JDVance
·
24m
This is such a good point. If you actually watch Charlie’s events—as opposed to the fake summaries—they are one of the few places with open and honest dialogue between left and right. He would answer any question and talk to everyone.



from

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shots-reportedly-fired-charlie-kirk-event-utah-valley-university

Civil terrorism expert Jason Curtis Anderson (https://x.com/JCAndersonNYC) of One City Rising states:

The assassination of Charlie Kirk marks a dangerous escalation in America’s culture war—where the battle of ideas is now escalating into political violence against those who run organizations devoted to debate and civil discourse. Very few people grasp the gravity of this moment (read more here (https://www.city-journal.org/article/civil-terrorism-anti-israel-radicals)). Incidents like this don’t exist in isolation; they risk triggering a chain of events that can further destabilize the country.

Whether it’s the anti-ICE movement, pro-Palestinian agitators, anarchist networks, or NGO-backed permanent protest groups like Indivisible, we are watching the rise of something new and deeply alarming. As Tal Fortgang wrote in City Journal, America is entering a new era of civil terrorism—where the goal is no longer peaceful protest, but intimidation, silencing, and destabilization of our democratic order.

RIP Kirk.

I agree very much with the red bolded words you have posted.
I believe we are entering a trying time.
Good speed to Charlie and good luck to us all

[Hym]

After doing yard work, I suddenly, instinctively, turned on the t.v. and found myself watching Charlie's friend, Jack Posobiec, in a state of obvious despair, ask for listeners to pray, a Catholic prayer, "Our Father...", and I joined in, since I knew the prayer so well growing up in that place.

He nervously reached for his rosary and with his head bent down continued..... I was aware of listening to myself knowing the exact same words sung in rhythmic unison with him. I flashed on the endless rosaries I repeated, the many Our Fathers, Hail Marys. This time, 6 decades later, I recalled the feeling, but now it was real with my in situ words being rapidly changed to fit the intent and not the words. It fit...as prayers carry our best energies, regardless of their origin. Listening, I knew he was gone....

Sing a song in unison with a positive intent. Listen to a song with the deeper meaning that extends beyond our personal conditions, meant for the benefit of others.....

Charlie was growing up through his strong opinions and exposing them to very open expressions of dissent, widely disparate comments and counterpoints to his positions, which is very rare in public discourse. I very recently wrote an email to him because he said he grew up around sikhs in Phoenix and I knew them well, writing to him to fill in the truthful details as to why they failed so miserably. He had to have known at least the American side of that community, yet without the larger truths of how it betrayed the simple words, alive or unheard, or unknown, within its daily prayers.

I was looking forward to a dialogue, especially about how he as a Christian could not speak out about the genocide in Gaza. I do appreciate the power of standing in the breach knowing he was going to face the strongest test of his views. Only a person willing to change, to listen deeply, to allow themselves the space to change, to expand their understanding, can do this. This was likely one of the last emails he read.

This is the end of my email to him, showing him encouragement....

"By the way, I do transpose some of Christian speak with Muslim speak and view ignorance and lack of grace from there...sometimes they are the same. Thankfully so, Blessedly so, they are sometimes not the same.

Blessings, Little Brother.
Though I do not share many of your fixed opinions, some of them spiritually disconnected, I do support your efforts and your constant path of learning, allowing the experiences that remove any need for faith to ever be a concern."

Edit: And here, along with so many other posts in these threads, lie some of the undeniable truths linking Charlie's assassination with the creators and destroyers of 9/11. It is harsh. My comments are harsh, fitting the truths many of us have lived thru.

In remembrance of Charlie, his kindnesses and his abilities to calmly accept the very different views of others, my comments on this other post belong on one of the 9/11 threads.



https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119479-9-11-Truth-Still-Matters-Over-20-Years-Later&p=1684715&viewfull=1#post1684715

[ExomatrixTV]

1965947311718269341
source (https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1965947311718269341)
1965924214394986629
source (https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1965924214394986629)

[SilentFeathers]

I'm shocked! Usually these scumbags get promoted!


https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1965963596308849099
BREAKING: Matthew Dowd has been FIRED from MSNBC after blaming the assassination of Charlie Kirk on Charlie himself, per Variety

[rgray222]

To truly understand why Charlie Kirk had to die, it is essential to recognize who he genuinely was. Many perceive him simply as a Republican or conservative media personality, often equating him with figures like Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or Jesse Watters—individuals who are easily replaceable and primarily serve as talking heads on television.

Charlie Kirk represented much more than that. He was a movement—a catalyst challenging the indoctrination prevalent in American and worldwide higher education. He was effectively breaking the grip of progressive and Democratic ideological influence on students, persuading millions to reconsider the brainwashing they had been exposed to. He was showing students that there was another way, a better way. He was showing students that the negative media narrative about Republicans and Conservatives was not correct, and an increasing number of students were eager to embrace it. The expanding attendance at his events and the surge in students reflected his wildly growing and successful influence.

His success posed a significant threat to the established political power structure. The Democratic Party, and particularly the Progressives (Globalist), had invested substantial time, money, and effort into making college campuses ideological indoctrination centers. Charlie Kirk’s rising prominence and ability to inspire a new generation challenged their strategic objectives. As his influence continued to grow, it became clear that he could no longer be allowed to stand in their way.

There is little doubt in my mind that they will catch the assassin, and what I have written here will not match up to the motive that I have described. That will be intentional.

[Mike]

To truly understand why to Charlie Kirk had to die, it is essential to recognize who he genuinely was. Many perceive him simply as a Republican or conservative media personality, often equating him with figures like Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or Jesse Watters—individuals who are easily replaceable and primarily serve as talking heads on television.

Charlie Kirk represented much more than that. He was a movement—a catalyst challenging the indoctrination prevalent in American and Worldwide higher education. He was effectively breaking the grip of progressive and Democratic ideological influence on students, persuading millions to reconsider the brainwashing they had been exposed to. He was showing students that there was another way, a better way. He was showing students that the negative media narrative about Republicans and Conservatives was not correct, and an increasing number of students were eager to embrace it. The expanding attendance at his events and the surge in students reflected his wildly growing and successful influence.

His success posed a significant threat to the established political power structure. The Democratic Party, and particularly the Progressives, had invested substantial time, money, and effort into making college campuses ideological indoctrination centers. Charlie Kirk’s rising prominence and ability to inspire a new generation challenged their strategic objectives. As his influence continued to grow, it became clear that he could no longer be allowed to stand in their way.

There is little doubt in my mind that they will catch the assassin, and what I have written here will not match up to the motive that I have described. That will be intentional.


Well said Richard. Thanks for articulating that:handshake:.

I'm not convinced they'll catch the assassin, sadly. Knowing what I think I know this appears to be a professional job. And this person may be long gone by now. I hope with everything I have that I'm wrong.

[ExomatrixTV]

We just reached a tipping point moment:

N6P4xdZnNQM

[Ravenlocke]

The Charlie Kirk assassination has people on "the right" blaming people on "the left" for political violence. This construction plays right into the hands of the ruling class controlling the state, which commits the vast majority of violence against the people. Our enemy is not left or right but rather those on top oppressing us and the world at large. I wouldn't be surprised if the assassin turns out to be an Intelligence agency patsy or plant.

https://x.com/RecTheRegime/status/1965966373831463220

1965966373831463220

[dim]

"Gun Deaths ‘Unfortunately’ Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment - Charlie Kirk"

Live by the sword...

[ExomatrixTV]

Sniper Spotted On Video At Charlie Kirk Tragedy!:

Ot0HY3Gq4Aw
Jimmy Dore and Kurt Metzger react to reports of Charlie Kirk’s assassination at Utah Valley University, with speculation about a rooftop sniper and questions over whether this was a political hit. Utah Governor Spencer Cox called it a “political assassination,” while President Donald Trump issued condolences and MSNBC drew backlash for suggesting the shooting might be exploited politically.

Jimmy highlights how the media downplays or reframes political violence, comparing it to past shootings where motives were obscured, and suggests U.S. intelligence agencies manipulate events and narratives. Both Jimmy and Kurt frame the killing as symptomatic of a “depraved society,” possibly linked to deep state or CIA interference, while condemning those celebrating the violence.

[Ravenlocke]

This is a dark day in the history of our country.

You don’t have to believe in what Charlie Kirk stood for to mourn his death and recognize that political assassination is abhorrent. At the end of the day, Charlie was a husband and father. My heart breaks for his family. No one deserves to be executed for their politics.

And for the record—one’s compassion for their fellow human should not be conditional. My empathy for the Kirk family is not contingent on whether Charlie shared my views, or even grieved for the same victims of violence I did. In matters of life and death we must show mercy and humanity.

May Charlie rest in peace.

https://x.com/anyaparampil/status/1965883952327209131

1965883952327209131

[Raskolnikov]

Governor Spenser Cox (R-Utah) formally declares: "This is a political assassination," and poses profound questions for all Americans.

pDF-mooTzs4

[s7e6e]

To truly understand why to Charlie Kirk had to die, it is essential to recognize who he genuinely was. Many perceive him simply as a Republican or conservative media personality, often equating him with figures like Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or Jesse Watters—individuals who are easily replaceable and primarily serve as talking heads on television.

Charlie Kirk represented much more than that. He was a movement—a catalyst challenging the indoctrination prevalent in American and Worldwide higher education. He was effectively breaking the grip of progressive and Democratic ideological influence on students, persuading millions to reconsider the brainwashing they had been exposed to. He was showing students that there was another way, a better way. He was showing students that the negative media narrative about Republicans and Conservatives was not correct, and an increasing number of students were eager to embrace it. The expanding attendance at his events and the surge in students reflected his wildly growing and successful influence.

His success posed a significant threat to the established political power structure. The Democratic Party, and particularly the Progressives (Globalist), had invested substantial time, money, and effort into making college campuses ideological indoctrination centers. Charlie Kirk’s rising prominence and ability to inspire a new generation challenged their strategic objectives. As his influence continued to grow, it became clear that he could no longer be allowed to stand in their way.

There is little doubt in my mind that they will catch the assassin, and what I have written here will not match up to the motive that I have described. That will be intentional.

I think you're spot on. Not to mention, casus belli for militarizing the whole government.
US is truly lost.

[Mike]

"Gun Deaths ‘Unfortunately’ Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment - Charlie Kirk"

Live by the sword...


Charlie understood that personal liberties need constant defending, both intellectually and against potentially violent and authoritarian governments. He understood that an armed populace was necessary to maintain these freedoms (and the respect of it's government) even though he knew there would be some needless violence as a result. Without guns, the citizens have no leverage and are at the total mercy of their governments (like China and to a lesser degree the UK). This is unacceptable to Americans, and we're willing to pay the price to avoid it.

Kirk wasn't "living by the sword". That's a preposterous thing to say. He just understood that authorities shouldn't be the only ones with swords.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

i was going to put this on the great quotes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8309-the-great-quotes-thread&p=71497&viewfull=1#post71497) thread but i think it is more appropriate here on this day


hate can not drive out hate, only love can do that.
Martin luther king.

bs .......................................... Rrr

[Raskolnikov]

To truly understand why to Charlie Kirk had to die, it is essential to recognize who he genuinely was. Many perceive him simply as a Republican or conservative media personality, often equating him with figures like Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or Jesse Watters—individuals who are easily replaceable and primarily serve as talking heads on television.

Charlie Kirk represented much more than that. He was a movement—a catalyst challenging the indoctrination prevalent in American and Worldwide higher education. He was effectively breaking the grip of progressive and Democratic ideological influence on students, persuading millions to reconsider the brainwashing they had been exposed to. He was showing students that there was another way, a better way. He was showing students that the negative media narrative about Republicans and Conservatives was not correct, and an increasing number of students were eager to embrace it. The expanding attendance at his events and the surge in students reflected his wildly growing and successful influence.

His success posed a significant threat to the established political power structure. The Democratic Party, and particularly the Progressives (Globalist), had invested substantial time, money, and effort into making college campuses ideological indoctrination centers. Charlie Kirk’s rising prominence and ability to inspire a new generation challenged their strategic objectives. As his influence continued to grow, it became clear that he could no longer be allowed to stand in their way.

There is little doubt in my mind that they will catch the assassin, and what I have written here will not match up to the motive that I have described. That will be intentional.

I think you're spot on. Not to mention, casus belli for militarizing the whole government.
US is truly lost.

This was a bold move by the global-lice, they're desperate and showing their hand. Every move is a diversion and distraction to take attention and energy away from things being revealed they desperately don't want the public to know. Every desperate move they make, while horrible and sickening to the extreme, which IS their m.o. to traumatise the masses, only serves to awaken more and more each and every day. I'm truly saddened by yet another senseless death in a 48 hour period, but something tells me we're reaching the fulcrum, nearing closer to the hundredth monkey. Anyone else feeling the extreme highs and lows lately? I swear I'm riding a roller coaster these last few weeks, one minute riding high thinking life can't get any better while the next instant I'm plunging to the bottom and ready to end it all because it all feels so hopeless and futile. I've read much wisdom recently from many on this forum advising to pull focus away from the screen playing out before us because it's all a distraction to keep us reacting instead of proacting. In other words, find your center, strengthen that connection above all else, that, and only that, is what's real, and don't let them steer you where they're trying to steer you. We're still in Plato's cave, it's all shadowplay.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXWMqBoZUW4

100% behind this man

RRR

[John Hilton]

Hi, I'm currently on holiday with only a small laptop and I only just heard this news. I just read (somewhere - sorry, it's difficult to keep track) that apart from the obvious motive to kill Charlie, allegedly the secondary task involves next killing a prominent leftist in order to set left against right and to trigger a civil war. Hopefully this theory is wrong or is thwarted.

Found it: https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1965954943551959310

[Eric J (Viking)]

More here… 🤷‍♂️

Charlie was awakening to Israel’s hypocrisy
> He used to be an Israel loyalist
> He feared ‘Israel would kill him’
> He started *mildly* criticizing Israel
> He said Epstein was Mossad
> He let anti-Zionists speak at his events
> Zionist media started attacking him
> Someone shot his jugular 200 yards away
> Netanyahu tweets within minutes
> Patsy gets arrested & acts guilty
> Assassin escapes without a trace
> Netanyahu tweets longer message

Something tells me they’re not going to tell us the truth about who killed Charlie Kirk…

____
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2025/09/10/heres-why-they-just-killed-charlie-kirk/


********

Now here’s another brave stance that Kirk assumed, which is a quite precarious one when you are a major conservative figure traveling all over the USA and ascending higher and higher public and private platforms.

Iran–Israel War

Main article: Iran-Israel War
In June 2025, Kirk opposed the involvement of the United States in the Iran–Israel War.[123]

The bottom line here is that it really does appear that Charlie Kirk may have been ever so slowly and subtly tracing out a future trajectory not too unlike the truth-talking Candace Owens. And, for that he paid the highest price a truth speaker can ever pay.

Highly Profession Hit

All of the evidence thus far points to the highly professional and complex execution plan complete with an extremely organized cover-up.

https://stateofthenation.info/?p=33087

[Tintin]

It's all shocking enough, and awful, as with Iryna: a terrible day :rose:

I'll not share the video as I might usually but through this link is the moment poor Charlie got shot:

https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1965849389047652728

[neutronstar]

It was an op.

https://x.com/stellarman22/status/1965940172660551877

1965940172660551877[/url]

[s7e6e]

It was an op.


Most likely. Just like Trump's staged assassination attempt.

[neutronstar]

It was an op.


Most likely. Just like Trump's staged assassination attempt.

If it was, it was done in a rush. They had no time or resources to provide a patsy.

[Rizotto]

More here… 🤷‍♂️

Charlie was awakening to Israel’s hypocrisy
> He used to be an Israel loyalist
> He feared ‘Israel would kill him’
> He started *mildly* criticizing Israel
> He said Epstein was Mossad
> He let anti-Zionists speak at his events
> Zionist media started attacking him
> Someone shot his jugular 200 yards away
> Netanyahu tweets within minutes
> Patsy gets arrested & acts guilty
> Assassin escapes without a trace
> Netanyahu tweets longer message

Something tells me they’re not going to tell us the truth about who killed Charlie Kirk…

____
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2025/09/10/heres-why-they-just-killed-charlie-kirk/


********

Now here’s another brave stance that Kirk assumed, which is a quite precarious one when you are a major conservative figure traveling all over the USA and ascending higher and higher public and private platforms.

Iran–Israel War

Main article: Iran-Israel War
In June 2025, Kirk opposed the involvement of the United States in the Iran–Israel War.[123]

The bottom line here is that it really does appear that Charlie Kirk may have been ever so slowly and subtly tracing out a future trajectory not too unlike the truth-talking Candace Owens. And, for that he paid the highest price a truth speaker can ever pay.

Highly Profession Hit

All of the evidence thus far points to the highly professional and complex execution plan complete with an extremely organized cover-up.

https://stateofthenation.info/?p=33087

Yep, I agree with the above, that there are many pointers to Israel in this matter. Other telling 'coincidences' are that this assassination was timed for the day prior to 9/11, and just a day after the Israel assassinations in Qatar. No doubt, the shooting of Charlie Kirk will now take the focus off the outrageous Israel crimes in Qatar. Is the timing a coincidence? What other motives would Israel have to taking out Charlie Kirk?

Is there more info on why exactly Charlie Kirk "feared ‘Israel would kill him’"?

Here's an interesting analysis (10 minute video) with clips of Charlie Kirk's prior comments about Epstein's blackmail operation for Israel, specifically that "members of congress are actively being blackmailed, the Epstein playbook is being used on a daily basis".

Charlie Kirk insisted that Epstein was MOSSAD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW_nPlXdQ8Y

[Matthew]

There are a lot of people who are really happy he was killed. The victory cheers accidentally heard in the back-offices of TMZ are a microcosm of the cheers round the world. Here's a thread on twitter of people's celebration and relief that Charlie Kirk was murdered: horrible twitter thread compilation of people celebrating murder here (https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1966037506312597803). I don't want to live on this planet any more. I'm convinced most of these useful idiots don't know what they're saying. God Almighty give us strength.


9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

[T Smith]

"Gun Deaths ‘Unfortunately’ Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment - Charlie Kirk"

Live by the sword...

I'll clarify that quote for you:

Don't live by the chain...

[Merkaba360]

Didn't see this one coming. Sheesh.

Charlie was highly motivated to make a difference and did. As I believe most or all of our big events in life are planned or at least allowed by our higher self. Hopefully his death leads to being the biggest difference he will make. That would make his life story and legacy even more epic.

Seems like a risky shot taking out a wholesome guy like this, even if the delusional people see him as some horrible human. Any chance this just lights a fire inside millions of good people? Could bring some more bravery and supposedly there's going to be whistleblowers coming out to shake things up at some point. But also risky to allow him to continue to rally the students.

Could we see more defiance and resistance from the patriots and good people.

Say Hi to Ozzy Charlie :) Thank you for all of your hard work.

His poor little ones. Sigh.

[Bill Ryan]

More here… 🤷‍♂️

Charlie was awakening to Israel’s hypocrisy
> He used to be an Israel loyalist
> He feared ‘Israel would kill him’
> He started *mildly* criticizing Israel
> He said Epstein was Mossad
> He let anti-Zionists speak at his events
> Zionist media started attacking him
> Someone shot his jugular 200 yards away
> Netanyahu tweets within minutes
> Patsy gets arrested & acts guilty
> Assassin escapes without a trace
> Netanyahu tweets longer message

Something tells me they’re not going to tell us the truth about who killed Charlie Kirk…
____
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2025/09/10/heres-why-they-just-killed-charlie-kirk/

********

Now here’s another brave stance that Kirk assumed, which is a quite precarious one when you are a major conservative figure traveling all over the USA and ascending higher and higher public and private platforms.

Iran–Israel War

Main article: Iran-Israel War
In June 2025, Kirk opposed the involvement of the United States in the Iran–Israel War.[123]

The bottom line here is that it really does appear that Charlie Kirk may have been ever so slowly and subtly tracing out a future trajectory not too unlike the truth-talking Candace Owens. And, for that he paid the highest price a truth speaker can ever pay.

Highly Profession Hit

All of the evidence thus far points to the highly professional and complex execution plan complete with an extremely organized cover-up.

https://stateofthenation.info/?p=33087

Yep, I agree with the above, that there are many pointers to Israel in this matter. Other telling 'coincidences' are that this assassination was timed for the day prior to 9/11, and just a day after the Israel assassinations in Qatar. No doubt, the shooting of Charlie Kirk will now take the focus off the outrageous Israel crimes in Qatar. Is the timing a coincidence? What other motives would Israel have to taking out Charlie Kirk?

Is there more info on why exactly Charlie Kirk "feared ‘Israel would kill him’"?

Here's an interesting analysis (10 minute video) with clips of Charlie Kirk's prior comments about Epstein's blackmail operation for Israel, specifically that "members of congress are actively being blackmailed, the Epstein playbook is being used on a daily basis".

Charlie Kirk insisted that Epstein was MOSSAD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW_nPlXdQ8Y~~~

I'm taking the liberty — or maybe the risk — of bumping this post already. And also adding this, which, for whatever it may be worth (maybe nothing) I confess leapt out at me immediately.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/159783

The text:
A theory making the rounds on X yesterday suggested that Charlie Kirk may have been targeted by Israel.

It all started with a resurfaced tweet from Harrison Smith, host of American Journal on InfoWars, posted about a month ago. In it, Smith claimed he’d heard that “Kirk was afraid he’d be killed if he turned on Israel.”

Since then, people have dug up examples of Israeli (or Israeli-aligned) media attacking Kirk for “giving a voice to anti-Israel voices” on his show, along with a recent segment where he and Megyn Kelly discussed Epstein being a Mossad agent.

The speculation only grew after Benjamin Netanyahu posted about Kirk immediately following the shooting — and then again after Kirk was pronounced dead.


DDGeopolitics/159783

[ExomatrixTV]

If Charlie Kirk (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Charlie%20Kirk) being KNOWN to be very outspoken critical about Epstein (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107734-Jeffrey-Epstein-Ghislaine-Maxwell-the-whole-story-so-far&highlight=Epstein) (openly stating possible (most likely) Israeli Mossad (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122055-Israel-vs-Palestine-Lebanon-Iran-Yemen-Syria-a-New-Middle-East-War) connections) and exposing other hypocrisies dealing with US-Israel relationships multiple times ...

Knowing how Israel-Mossad has ties with using Advanced A.I. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-) ... I wonder if they used A.I. to predict how fast Charlie Kirk (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Charlie%20Kirk) was going to be more and more influential and what his "estimated effects" are on the long run with Israel-US relationships. Could that be a factor/angle to consider? And lets, for argument’s sake, that someone leaks hard evidence Charlie Kirk is killed by a hired assassin paid by Mossad ... how would USA and Trump react?

Grok also refuse to analyze this current forum thread link (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130341-Charlie-Kirk-was-assassinated-yesterday), while it easily showed IT CAN fetch/extract content external links from Project Avalon Forum multiple times with precision last weeks, even all 54+ pages if need be, like UAPs/UFOs (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122463-UFOlogy-UAP-Developments-So-Far...-2024-2025) for example!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

<<!-- edit update: -->>

September 11, 2025: Grok.com (https://grok.com) Grok 3, Grok 4 "Expert Mode" and Grok 4 "Deep Search" ALL refuse to answer, nor add a "title" of a new chat session I created being an X Premium Plus Account (https://x.com/JohnKuhles1966) user! DEAD SILENT ... No rebuttal, no "debunking", no nothing. When I look at my chat sessions history tab, it does not even show up!

v6wkws2/?pub=4mai79

[apokalypse]

Charlie Kirk correctly identifies Jeffrey Epstein as an agent of Israel.Running a blackmail operation on your country doesn't sound like the behaviour of a greatest ally does it?

(https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1742977166701162914)https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1742977166701162914
1742977166701162914
I find that is the reason which he got shot...right now this whole Epstein explode and trying hard to buried whole thing. We can speculate whole thing why/motives but I believe we can all agreed this is false flag

[SilentFeathers]

I'm not sure how accurate this is yet....

Charlie Kirks Assassin Is A Trans Radical! Weapon Found With Inscriptions On Ammo Leftists Did This
LUI8UMXdI-8


https://x.com/scrowder/status/1966118431511433267
EXCLUSIVE: This morning my team received an e-mail from officer at ATF.

The email included a screen shot from what appears to be an internal message describing a weapon and cartridges located by an ATF and other law enforcement near the scene of the Charlie Kirk shooting at Utah Valley State University.

"On September 10, 2025, at approximately 12:24PM, Conservative political influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, UT. Mr. Kirk was speaking at the University as part of the American Comeback Tour. Multiple SLC I and III agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on a rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus and surveillance video shows the suspect, jumping off and fleeing the area on foot. ATF and other law-enforcement located an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspects route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top fed magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology. An emergency trace has been submitted an ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace. The firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI for DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions. Upon completion of forensics, the firearm will be disassembled for additional importer information. Multiple people of interest having contacted or detained because of eyewitness testimony and review of video footage. The primary suspect is yet to be identified. ATF is assisting the investigation with multiple other federal, state, and local partners and the case is co-led by the FBI and Utah SBI.""

[peace]

charlie kirk correctly identifies jeffrey epstein as an agent of israel.running a blackmail operation on your country doesn't sound like the behaviour of a greatest ally does it?

(https://x.com/keithwoodsyt/status/1742977166701162914)https://x.com/keithwoodsyt/status/1742977166701162914
1742977166701162914
i find that is the reason which he got shot...right now this whole epstein explode and trying hard to buried whole thing. We can speculate whole thing why/motives but i believe we can all agreed this is false flag

this. 100% this.

[Alecs]

Just to add to the discussion: I find my self speculating most about Charlie Kirk's future role in the Republican party. Perhaps he would have been a real reformer at the party's core, effective at encouraging more conservative and virtuous politicians to run for high office--ones who would not be easily blackmailed. This would be a real threat to whom?

[ExomatrixTV]

charlie kirk correctly identifies jeffrey epstein as an agent of israel.running a blackmail operation on your country doesn't sound like the behaviour of a greatest ally does it?

(https://x.com/keithwoodsyt/status/1742977166701162914)https://x.com/keithwoodsyt/status/1742977166701162914
1742977166701162914
i find that is the reason which he got shot...right now this whole epstein explode and trying hard to buried whole thing. We can speculate whole thing why/motives but i believe we can all agreed this is false flag

this. 100% this.

have a look here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130341-Charlie-Kirk-was-assassinated-yesterday&p=1684751&viewfull=1#post1684751)

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[gini]

Didn't see this one coming. Sheesh.

Charlie was highly motivated to make a difference and did. As I believe most or all of our big events in life are planned or at least allowed by our higher self. Hopefully his death leads to being the biggest difference he will make. That would make his life story and legacy even more epic.

Seems like a risky shot taking out a wholesome guy like this, even if the delusional people see him as some horrible human. Any chance this just lights a fire inside millions of good people? Could bring some more bravery and supposedly there's going to be whistleblowers coming out to shake things up at some point. But also risky to allow him to continue to rally the students.

Could we see more defiance and resistance from the patriots and good people.

Say Hi to Ozzy Charlie :) Thank you for all of your hard work.

His poor little ones. Sigh.

To me its obvious that his enormous reach & influence was too big to let it be uncontrolled. - -
His changing opinions on Israel could & would probably break the back of the Zionist camel. -
The other side of the coin is that -not unlike like Gandhi & MLK and other political martyrs -,his legacy as a free speech warrior -always ready to debate any opposite opinion- will make him a symbol & example for the english speaking world for fair debate and a political rolemodel for the younger generation., - - T
hats the advantage of the disadvantage of dying young ;a clean uncorrupted reputation. - -
Often when somebody is gone ,more attention is given to what he had to say . - Charlie Kirk did not live in vain ,he wont be forgotten

[mountain_jim]

I came here to point out the Israel questions, see folks here are documenting this possibility.

https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1965959450742894916

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The FBI now says several hot leads in the attack on Charlie Kirk point straight to foreign intelligence.

The question is—who stood to gain from Charlie Kirk being taken out?

And who had he just started calling out in the days before his death?


https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1965981561284866453

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He was being called ‘antisemitic’ for everything he was starting to notice.


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[AutumnW]

So far, looks like a professional hit. Whoever did it understands how to avoid capture, which is extremely difficult in this day and age.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

It does look like a professional hit, but I wouldn't rule out some messed-up kid. It's not hard to see how and where these kids are getting these extremist ideas.

- Dr. Ruth Marshall is an associate professor of political science at University of Toronto.

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Edit to add: a messed up kid with they/them pronouns is my guess.

[Ernie Nemeth]

See the harm caused by the official narrative of legacy media and its pundits?

See how destructive a lie held up as truth can be?

This is the price of truth, and the repercussion of misrepresenting it.

We live in a dangerous time. The lie is so big, so twisted, so hard to believe, it establishes a cognitive dissonance that cannot be reconciled. It causes insanity. It causes hatred and it leads to violence.

The lies hold you captive.
Only the truth can set you free...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

And it could get worse. From now on, I can see all right-leaning pundits and personalities surrounding themselves with armed security. We're entering very dangerous times.

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[thepainterdoug]

dim/ dumb comment in my opinion. the live by the sword part. I dont know you but I am sure, when applied to your own self, family or friends, if someone was was attacking them to kill them you would be well thankful that someone shot the mother ****er! This Country is only still free because of our 2nd amendment.

the problem today is very few people seem to apply things to what if it were me? The answer is always so opposite when it is their child being attacked, their home being invaded, their car being hit by someone illegal without insurance, when they own their own store, and the liberal smash and grab takes place at their own loss .

[AutumnW]

It does look like a professional hit, but I wouldn't rule out some messed-up kid. It's not hard to see how and where these kids are getting these extremist ideas.

- Dr. Ruth Marshall is an associate professor of political science at University of Toronto.

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https://x.com/truckdriverpleb/status/1965955476207878278

Edit to add: a messed up kid with they/them pronouns is my guess.

She doesn't represent Canada. She's crazy and her response here is horrible. Please don't shoehorn this event into your anti-Woke preoccupation.

[AutumnW]

dim/ dumb comment in my opinion. the live by to sword part. I dont know you but I am sure, when applied to your own self, family or friends, if someone was was attacking them to kill them you would be well thankful that someone shot the mother ****er! This Country is only still free because of our 2nd amendment.

the problem today is very few people seem to apply things to what if it were me? The answer is always so opposite when it is their child being attacked, their home being invaded, their car being hit by someone illegal without insurance, when they own their own store, and the liberal smash and grab takes place at their own loss .

People who are anti-gun, take the position of the victims of crime, after the fact. People who are pro-gun take the position of thwarting the aggressor. Both have incomplete understanding. There really is no resolution here. It's like the abortion issue.

[Merkaba360]

AI obviously is gathering every piece of data possible on us. Why are all these vile messages not part of AI building a case toward problematic people. Can set the threshold high, but the people who have horrrible mindsets and being horrible over and over in whatever ways should get some kind of scrutiny or warning labels or give us more privileges as honorable adults.

The privacy is already gone so wouldn't mind social pressures or something to be put on these people.

When do they get arrested for citing violence on the POTUS. wonder if some are bots?

[TrumanCash]

Boise Vigil for Charlie Kirk Descends into Violence as Sick Leftists Crash Event to Mock and Celebrate His Assassination (VIDEO)

In a heartbreaking display of left-wing hatred, a candlelight vigil held in Boise, Idaho, to honor slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk turned violent on Wednesday evening when unhinged leftist protesters arrived to disrupt the gathering and gleefully celebrate his assassination.

Hundreds of mourners assembled at the Idaho State Capitol steps, lighting candles and offering prayers for the 31-year-old Turning Point USA founder, who was fatally shot in the neck earlier that day during a campus event at Utah Valley University.

Eyewitness accounts and viral videos captured the shocking display when a group of hecklers, including local Black Lives Matter leader Terry Wilson and other activists waving rainbow flags, arrived to provoke the crowd of nearly 1,000 grieving conservatives.

Wilson, riding a scooter, drove through the vigil attendees while screaming obscenities like “F-ck Charlie Kirk,” sparking immediate confrontations.

Footage shows the situation escalating into a physical brawl where Wilson was reportedly pummeled before Boise Police Department officers intervened.

Watch videos at https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/boise-vigil-charlie-kirk-descends-violence-as-sick/

Also, see at Gateway Pundit: BREAKING… FBI, Utah Officials Have “GOOD FOOTAGE OF KIRK SHOOTER” – Tracked Him from Hour Before Shooting to When He Jumped Off Building and Ran Through Neighborhood — THEY FOUND THE WEAPON IN THE WOODS!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/fbi-utah-officials-tracked-movements-good-footage-kirk/

https://x.com/FerrinsThoughts/status/1965987599908217041
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[SilentFeathers]

the problem today is very few people seem to apply things to what if it were me? The answer is always so opposite when it is their child being attacked, their home being invaded, their car being hit by someone illegal without insurance, when they own their own store, and the liberal smash and grab takes place at their own loss .

Many of these lunatics have no children, no home or property of any kind. If they have a car is was probably bought by their parents or someone else.

Many of these lunatics have completely severed and ended relationships with their own families/close friends just due to having different ideologies. Some even wish their own family members dead.

If some of these lunatics still had relationships with family members and someone killed their loved ones, they're more likely to focus on racism or guns rather than mourning the deaths.

The laughing and celebrating Charlies death with absolutely no sympathy/empathy what so ever for his wife or two little children proves where their hearts and minds are. They are truly mentally disturbed and or brainwashed.

Having several million people with this type of mindset existing in our society today makes this whole situation extremely dangerous (and deadly).

In my opinion there is no quick fix, it'll take a generation or more to correct the psychological damage these radical and demonic globalists/politicians have created. (I emphasize DEMONIC!)

It will get worse in my opinion, and I really do believe we are about to see things greatly escalate. They are moving from random thrill kills and escalating to public executions/assassinations.

[norman]

We are all Charlie now.

Screw the Sorcerer's apprentices.

[ExomatrixTV]

Douglas Murray and Rita Panahi respond to Charlie Kirk assassination:

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Author Douglas Murray and Sky News host Rita Panahi have reacted to the tragic assassination of Turning Point USA founder and conservative activist Charlie Kirk in Utah. “My thoughts are with Charlie but also his wife – his young wife and his two young children he leaves behind,” he told Sky News host Rita Panahi. “It’s an extraordinary, appalling act of violence.” Ms Panahi claimed the death of Charlie Kirk is a “heartbreaking, unimaginable loss”.

[betoobig]

i believe CHarlie is alive although we knew he was Charlie 2.0, don´t we? .... we are watching a movie and there´s a very clear video of the mechanism under his tshirt exploiting and delivering the fake blood. Anyhow is a movement forward moviewise.
The true question is, NOW WHAT?

[Mike]

More here… 🤷‍♂️

Charlie was awakening to Israel’s hypocrisy
> He used to be an Israel loyalist
> He feared ‘Israel would kill him’
> He started *mildly* criticizing Israel
> He said Epstein was Mossad
> He let anti-Zionists speak at his events
> Zionist media started attacking him
> Someone shot his jugular 200 yards away
> Netanyahu tweets within minutes
> Patsy gets arrested & acts guilty
> Assassin escapes without a trace
> Netanyahu tweets longer message

Something tells me they’re not going to tell us the truth about who killed Charlie Kirk…

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https://www.theburningplatform.com/2025/09/10/heres-why-they-just-killed-charlie-kirk/


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Now here’s another brave stance that Kirk assumed, which is a quite precarious one when you are a major conservative figure traveling all over the USA and ascending higher and higher public and private platforms.

Iran–Israel War

Main article: Iran-Israel War
In June 2025, Kirk opposed the involvement of the United States in the Iran–Israel War.[123]

The bottom line here is that it really does appear that Charlie Kirk may have been ever so slowly and subtly tracing out a future trajectory not too unlike the truth-talking Candace Owens. And, for that he paid the highest price a truth speaker can ever pay.

Highly Profession Hit

All of the evidence thus far points to the highly professional and complex execution plan complete with an extremely organized cover-up.

https://stateofthenation.info/?p=33087

Yep, I agree with the above, that there are many pointers to Israel in this matter. Other telling 'coincidences' are that this assassination was timed for the day prior to 9/11, and just a day after the Israel assassinations in Qatar. No doubt, the shooting of Charlie Kirk will now take the focus off the outrageous Israel crimes in Qatar. Is the timing a coincidence? What other motives would Israel have to taking out Charlie Kirk?

Is there more info on why exactly Charlie Kirk "feared ‘Israel would kill him’"?

Here's an interesting analysis (10 minute video) with clips of Charlie Kirk's prior comments about Epstein's blackmail operation for Israel, specifically that "members of congress are actively being blackmailed, the Epstein playbook is being used on a daily basis".

Charlie Kirk insisted that Epstein was MOSSAD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW_nPlXdQ8Y



Kirk speculated about Epstein being Mossad and about Oct 7th being a false flag, but he was otherwise overwhelmingly pro Israel. If someone on either side of that equation was going to kill Charlie, it would be infinitely more reasonable to guess a pro-Palestine nut job. Kirk was a thorn in the side of those woke college campuses, particularly when it came to issues like gender, climate change, western values, and Gaza.

I hope we all find out soon, but my guess is that it's neither of those types. It was obviously an ideological and politically motivated killing, but I think the thrust behind it was largely due to Charlie's massive influence, particularly on the youth. He single-handedly energized the conservative youth into action during this last election, and the left in America need the youth to have any chance whatsoever in the next one.

This was an act of political desperation more than an act of pure hate in my view.

[SilentFeathers]

They are closing in on a suspect....

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[ExomatrixTV]

Tom MacDonald - CHARLIE:

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Rest In Peace Charlie Kirk ... All proceeds from this song will be donated.


What Really Happened to Charlie Kirk, the Media’s Shameful Lies, and What’s Next for Us:

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Everyone celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder should be identified and fired from their job, expelled from school, and personally sued in civil court for intentional infliction of emotional distress. That's not "cancel culture," it's "consequence culture" to use the Left's own term. These people are dangerous psychopaths who you can't trust to be your coworkers or classmates. They'd poison your coffee if they thought they could get away with it, and they'd neglect to warn you about a danger on a job site if they didn't like you or what your believe hoping you'd get hurt or worse. Their hateful celebrations have no place in a civil society and they must be identified and held accountable for their celebration and encouragement of murdering conservatives.

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[thepainterdoug]

beetoobig. this is a very open minded and intelligent forum, and we all discuss so called "conspiracy theories" continually. But it does require some % of evidence, some credible claim as to why the reality presented is being questioned .
please provide proof of a mechanism under his shirt

[Sloppyjoe]

See the harm caused by the official narrative of legacy media and its pundits?

See how destructive a lie held up as truth can be?

This is the price of truth, and the repercussion of misrepresenting it.

We live in a dangerous time. The lie is so big, so twisted, so hard to believe, it establishes a cognitive dissonance that cannot be reconciled. It causes insanity. It causes hatred and it leads to violence.

The lies hold you captive.
Only the truth can set you free...

The truth concerning any given subject is hard to handle for the modern american coddled mind.

In my opinion, a reason this country has been going through insanity(since around 9/11) is due to how kids are raised by their parents.

A lot kids grow up in single parent households due to divorce.

They grow up addicted to phones, computers, and tablets from a young age - because parents cant deal with a childs outbursts and energy levels. Which creates exposure to so many ideas, desensitivity, an instant gratification based wiring of the brain, social isolationism.

Kids aren't taught how to deal with their emotions, and we all know repressed emotions can be a very dangerous thing.

Kids are kept inside a box because their parents are afaid of the world.

Kids grow up with minimal levels of discipline and leadership. Imagine growing up in a society where the adults you look up to and rely on cant agree on how many genders there are.

I'm almost 35 years old and I believe my generation to be the last one to, at least partially, escape what the younger generations grew up with. I didn't have a flip phone until I was 15, I played outside most of the time, but also enjoyed the nintendo 64 games, myspace was brand new and cool, but you still wanted to hang out with friends, politics werent as divisive, etc.

[ExomatrixTV]

Maybe a "kicking an open door" question ... What would have happened if the one who witnessed the man on a roof WALKING on the roof, then lying down, then FILMING IT, then explaining what just had happened ... shouting out loud multiple times: "THERE IS SOMEONE ON THE ROOF IN PRONE POSITION POINTING TOWARDS THE SPEAKER OF THE EVENT!"


Why did he not? ... When you listen carefully to how his voice sounds, it feels like he is "slightly enjoying" what he just discovered, and kept a low profile ... I wonder why.

Why not make a protocol mandatory for ALL political or controversial events, scanning for anyone on a roof BY DEFAULT ... and make it known immediately if spotted by anyone! And WHY is this simple pragmatic common sense idea not discussed? Make it a crime if you do not warn the audience if this ever happens again when you are filming it!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Bill Ryan]

From The Duran, just published:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c
00:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c) Charlie Kirk Assassination: The Facts
02:40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c&t=160s) Public Reaction & Shock
05:24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c&t=324s) Kirk’s Life and Impact
07:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c&t=455s) Reflections on Political Assassinations
10:08 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c&t=608s) The 1960s vs. Today: Historical Comparison
13:23 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c&t=803s) Current Political Climate & Rising Violence
16:37 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c&t=997s) Divisions on Social Media
18:18 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c&t=1098s) Changing Nature of the Left and Right
20:43 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c&t=1243s) Assassination’s Impact on the U.S.
24:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQwODvgr2c&t=1440s) Moving Forward: Political Consequences

[Frankie Pancakes]

Some interesting thoughts/facts.

The comments section is good too.

1. The two apprehended men were but PLANTS to quickly divert LE attention in the immediate, confusing aftermath, giving maneuver space for the assassin to flee.

2. This was a professional hit. A professional doesn’t leave behind evidence (cartridges with “trans” etchings) . . . bull. If something was left, it was intentionally left, it’s a false lead . . . even consider planted fingerprints left on the cartridges to throw off the dogs, perhaps even frame a fall guy.

3. There should be NO open air events with popular conservative hosts without security who employ multiple drones that capture surveillance footage and which command observation of all highground. The failed Butler assassination was a wakeup call, reminded us what military always knows–you have to command the highground at all times. Who was in charge of Kirk’s security? Why was the highground left unsecured?

4. Private jet tail # N888KG departing Provo airport 5 minutes from the venue shortly after the hit, then going dark on radar, then returning to provo airport shortly after. Why did the radar fail? Who owns the jet? Who was on the manifest? Who was the pilot?

5. After a hit, the assassin either (1) flees, or (2) goes to ground. In the first case, why isn’t it SOP for LE to quickly move to the outer ring perimeter and observe anyone trying to quickly exfil? To the latter, in the case of the killer “going to ground,” why wasn’t the surrounding venue locked down and a full, room by room, person by person clearing operation conducted? Were the surrounded buildings locked down, methodically cleared, room by room?



https://www.theburningplatform.com/2025/09/11/professional-hit-with-diversions-false-narratives-patsies/#more-375710

[ExomatrixTV]

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[thepainterdoug]

John the second link was truly amazing!! something everyone should listen to. ty

[ExomatrixTV]

‘I’m filled with rage’: Gad Saad unleashes on the ‘monster’ who murdered Charlie Kirk:

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Charlie Kirk’s friend Dr Gad Saad has joined Sky News Australia to discuss the conservative activist’s tragic death at 31. “I’m filled with rage,” Mr Saad said. “Now it’s the way we adjudicate debates – we killed a young father because we disagreed with his ideas.”

[ExomatrixTV]

MSNBC Analyst FIRED in Disgrace Over Charlie Kirk Remarks—FBI Launches $100K Manhunt (https://rumble.com/v6yt4gi-msnbc-analyst-fired-in-disgrace-over-charlie-kirk-remarksfbi-launches-100k-.html)
🔥NEW: FBI's Reveal on Charlie Kirk Assassin! (https://rumble.com/v6yt34c-new-fbis-bombshell-reveal-on-charlie-kirk-assassin.html)


Maybe a "kicking an open door" question ... What would have happened if the one who witnessed the man on a roof WALKING on the roof, then lying down, then FILMING IT, then explaining what just had happened ... shouting out loud multiple times: "THERE IS SOMEONE ON THE ROOF IN PRONE POSITION POINTING TOWARDS THE SPEAKER OF THE EVENT!"


Why did he not? ... When you listen carefully to how his voice sounds, it feels like he is "slightly enjoying" what he just discovered, and kept a low profile ... I wonder why.

Why not make a protocol mandatory for ALL political or controversial events, scanning for anyone on a roof BY DEFAULT ... and make it known immediately if spotted by anyone! And WHY is this simple pragmatic common sense idea not discussed? Make it a crime if you do not warn the audience if this ever happens again when you are filming it!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳



WARNING GRAPHIC (this is video NOT "fake") (https://www.facebook.com/TruthMafiapodcast/videos/2322247688236016?idorvanity=5271663386258181)

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[Rizotto]

Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

Other facts:
- Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
- This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
- A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)

[rgray222]

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John the second link was truly amazing!! something everyone should listen to. ty

John, this is one of the best examples I’ve seen of Charlie Kirk’s deep understanding of the founding principles of the United States, as well as the significant role that religion played in the country's founding. Also, he puts a dagger in the heart of the fallacy surrounding the separation of church and state. His grasp of history is truly impressive, and he possessed an uncanny insight into how these issues continue to influence the United States and the world today.

One of the things that I liked most about Charlie Kirk is that he never twisted the facts (like so many people do) to fit the narrative. He played it straight down the middle.

[Mike]

Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

Other facts:
- Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
- This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
- A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)


If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.

[ExomatrixTV]

A Prayer for Charlie Kirk and our Nation:

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🚨 CONFIRMED: Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA and one of the most influential conservative voices of his generation, has died after being shot during his American Comeback Tour stop at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, on Wednesday, September 10, 2025. He was just 31 years old.

In this broadcast, we go beyond the headlines to what really matters: faith, truth, and prayer. At the close of the program, we turned directly to God and invited you — the viewers — to join us in lifting up Charlie’s family and this nation during this time of grief.

We prayed for angels to surround the Kirk family with comfort, for peace to rest upon them, and for strength to carry them through this devastating loss. We asked the Lord to soften the hearts of those trapped in darkness, to break through the hatred amplified by the media, and to flood this country with His light, truth, and love.

Together, we acknowledged that Charlie’s mission was never about himself alone — it was about planting seeds in the hearts of America’s youth. Seeds of courage, seeds of boldness, and seeds of faith that no bullet can destroy. We prayed that those seeds rise up now in a new generation of voices, carrying forward Charlie’s mission and turning this moment into a true spiritual awakening for America.

We reflected on what really matters in this life: our relationship with God, our families, our children, and the close friends He places in our path. Fame, politics, and worldly power fade, but the eternal remains. As Jeremiah 32:27 declares: “Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh. Is anything too hard for me?” Even in tragedy, God is working out His plan.

We thanked the Lord for the life of Charlie Kirk — for his passion, for his voice, for his relentless defense of freedom and faith. We rejoiced in the knowledge that while he has left this earth, he now walks on streets of gold, free of pain, in the presence of his Savior. His voice will echo on through the millions he inspired, and his mission will continue through all of us who carry his torch.

We prayed also for President Trump and for America’s leaders, asking God to pour out wisdom, protection, and courage as our nation confronts dark days ahead. We prayed for an outpouring of the Spirit across this land — that God would raise up more voices like Charlie’s, voices that will not bend, voices that will not break, voices that will proclaim truth without fear.

Tonight, we invite you to join us in this prayer. Share in the hope, the love, and the promise that even in our darkest hour, God is still on the throne. This is not the end — it is the beginning of something greater.

Charlie Kirk is gone from this world, but he is not lost. He is with the Lord. And we are called to rise, to speak, and to carry the mission forward.

Watch until the end of this broadcast and join us in prayer for Charlie, his family, and our country.

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[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1966241507461181899

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[ExomatrixTV]

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[RatRodRob...RRR]

Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

Other facts:
- Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
- This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
- A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)


If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.

My comment right now is only valid if my understanding of the situation is correct.
I believe the weapon found was a WW2 Mauser (spelling ?) , my son has one and is the absolute most inaccurate target tifle he owns, a disgruntled lefty would find it impossible to hit a target from 600 ft with a mauser, it aint gonna happen.
The mauser could have been planted to hide the truth, and if this were a professional "hit", the hitman would not use that weapon, AND you would not use a freaking bolt action rifle IMHO, a different weapon was likely used.
If the first bullit failed you would need to get off atleast another 2 shots within a second or all hopes of a kill would be thwarted.

RRR

[ExomatrixTV]

Reacting to Charlie Kirk Being Assassinated:

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They murdered the “let’s just have a conversation” guy. Let that one sink in.

Whether you’re a Democrat or a Republican, celebrating the death of a peaceful man is disgusting and vile. He held no office, he made no policy, he only wanted to keep the communication open so we could debate, and he was murdered for it. There’s a dark corner in hell for anyone that celebrates his death.

Killed the one person who actually wanted to talk to you!

Matthew Dowd of MSNBC was FIRED.

His daughter was right there --- this is heartbreakingly evil. This should not happen in this nation.

Glad to see Charlie Sheen articulate, caring & doing so well.

Quote of the Day:

"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
~ Plato


Donald Trump Jr. Reflects on His Close Friend and "Little Brother" Charlie Kirk and Legacy He Leaves:

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Megyn Kelly is joined by Donald Trump Jr., EVP of the Trump Organization, to reflect on the loss of his close friend Charlie Kirk, what Kirk meant to President Trump, the legacy he leaves behind, and more.



Charlie Kirk - An American Hero:

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[SilentFeathers]

Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

Other facts:
- Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
- This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
- A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)


If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.

My comment right now is only valid if my understanding of the situation is correct.
I believe the weapon found was a WW2 Mauser (spelling ?) , my son has one and is the absolute most inaccurate target tifle he owns, a disgruntled lefty would find it impossible to hit a target from 600 ft with a mauser, it aint gonna happen.
The mauser could have been planted to hide the truth, and if this were a professional "hit", the hitman would not use that weapon, AND you would not use a freaking bolt action rifle IMHO, a different weapon was likely used.
If the first bullit failed you would need to get off atleast another 2 shots within a second or all hopes of a kill would be thwarted.

RRR

I had a Mauser 30-06 many many years ago and could hit a gallon water jug with it at a 100yards all day long. (with open sights). I always had to rest the gun on a fence post or something though.

Personally, I think if this shooter did use this same gun at 200 yards and hit Charlie with it, he must of known the gun VERY well and probably had a good sighted in scope on it. I wouldn't say it's impossible that this was the gun used.

Regardless, this will probably be another one of those events we'll never really know the truth about.

[ExomatrixTV]

https://www.tpaction.com/static/images/modal/modal.webp (https://www.tpaction.com/static/images/modal/modal.webp)

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TPAction has hosted many rallies across the country, featuring prominent figures such as Donald Trump, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.), JD Vance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance), Tulsi Gabbard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard), and others.


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[RatRodRob...RRR]

Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

Other facts:
- Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
- This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
- A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)


If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.

My comment right now is only valid if my understanding of the situation is correct.
I believe the weapon found was a WW2 Mauser (spelling ?) , my son has one and is the absolute most inaccurate target tifle he owns, a disgruntled lefty would find it impossible to hit a target from 600 ft with a mauser, it aint gonna happen.
The mauser could have been planted to hide the truth, and if this were a professional "hit", the hitman would not use that weapon, AND you would not use a freaking bolt action rifle IMHO, a different weapon was likely used.
If the first bullit failed you would need to get off atleast another 2 shots within a second or all hopes of a kill would be thwarted.

RRR

I had a Mauser 30-06 many many years ago and could hit a gallon water jug with it at a 100yards all day long. (with open sights). I always had to rest the gun on a fence post or something though.

Personally, I think if this shooter did use this same gun at 200 yards and hit Charlie with it, he must of known the gun VERY well and probably had a good sighted in scope on it. I wouldn't say it's impossible that this was the gun used.

Regardless, this will probably be another one of those events we'll never really know the truth about.

Yeah well we have not been told the truth about many things and then these things are forgotten about or just linger, but i think this is different, people have had enough and are really angry and emotional, i think the push to know the truth will not go away as readily as before, people are openly speaking out regarding issues they were previously afraid to speak about, this effed up killing is bringing people together, there will be a price to pay to those fools who openly celebrate Charlies murder and are calling for others on the right to be Next.
The prone roof shooter (if he were the gunman) prolly had a bi pod or even a rolled up Tshirt as a rest and open sights are cool when prone with a rest, but your 100 yrds is only half the distance as the Kirk shot and a gallon container is (from memory, we are meters) wider than a human neck, so if it was an unhinged lefty i doubt they could pull this off.

Sounds like you have been around firearms and know a thing or two, but most lefties wouldnt even know which end to put the bullet in, and like i said a pro (assassin) would not choose a mauser, thats just mental, unless im missing something.

BTW SilentFeathers, im not trying to ruffle your feathers, just sayin it as i see it, stay cool.............................. RRR

[Rizotto]

Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

Other facts:
- Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
- This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
- A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)


If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying

I strongly object to your accusation that I'm blaming "Jews". In fact, I have NEVER blamed 'Jews'. There are many Jewish folks whom I like and admire. I firmly believe its absurd to make an accusation on the basis of someone's ethnicity or religious affiliation.

I have commented, and will continue to do so, about the crimes committed by ZIONISTS and ISRAEL, and the evidence that they're involved in various undercover criminal acts.
Such as the Epstein child trafficking & blackmail operation, which by the way, Charlie Kirk also stated was connected to Israeli intelligence.

Your accusation of 'Jew blaming' is the same old trick used by zionists and the Israel government to muddle the issue and throw false accusations of 'anti-semitism at anyone who denounce their crimes.

In fact, many Jews oppose zionism and Israel's oppression of Palestinians.

Look up the website "Jewish Voice for Peace", their article entitled:
On Antisemitism, Anti-Zionism and Dangerous Conflations
https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2023/11/09/antisemitism-dangerous/

[Arcturian108]

I believe investigative journalist George Webb is onto something in this video. He has convinced me that certain criminal elements in the Mormon church might be responsible for this very professional hit job, he calls them the Mitt Romney faction:

(https://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1966151249050640673)https://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1966151249050640673
1966151249050640673

[SilentFeathers]

Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

Other facts:
- Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
- This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
- A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)


If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.

My comment right now is only valid if my understanding of the situation is correct.
I believe the weapon found was a WW2 Mauser (spelling ?) , my son has one and is the absolute most inaccurate target tifle he owns, a disgruntled lefty would find it impossible to hit a target from 600 ft with a mauser, it aint gonna happen.
The mauser could have been planted to hide the truth, and if this were a professional "hit", the hitman would not use that weapon, AND you would not use a freaking bolt action rifle IMHO, a different weapon was likely used.
If the first bullit failed you would need to get off atleast another 2 shots within a second or all hopes of a kill would be thwarted.

RRR

I had a Mauser 30-06 many many years ago and could hit a gallon water jug with it at a 100yards all day long. (with open sights). I always had to rest the gun on a fence post or something though.

Personally, I think if this shooter did use this same gun at 200 yards and hit Charlie with it, he must of known the gun VERY well and probably had a good sighted in scope on it. I wouldn't say it's impossible that this was the gun used.

Regardless, this will probably be another one of those events we'll never really know the truth about.

Yeah well we have not been told the truth about many things and then these things are forgotten about or just linger, but i think this is different, people have had enough and are really angry and emotional, i think the push to know the truth will not go away as readily as before, people are openly speaking out regarding issues they were previously afraid to speak about, this effed up killing is bringing people together, there will be a price to pay to those fools who openly celebrate Charlies murder and are calling for others on the right to be Next.
The prone roof shooter (if he were the gunman) prolly had a bi pod or even a rolled up Tshirt as a rest and open sights are cool when prone with a rest, but your 100 yrds is only half the distance as the Kirk shot and a gallon container is (from memory, we are meters) wider than a human neck, so if it was an unhinged lefty i doubt they could pull this off.

Sounds like you have been around firearms and know a thing or two, but most lefties wouldnt even know which end to put the bullet in, and like i said a pro (assassin) would not choose a mauser, thats just mental, unless im missing something.

BTW SilentFeathers, im not trying to ruffle your feathers, just sayin it as i see it, stay cool.............................. RRR

You're not ruffling my feathers, I agree with you to a large extent. I don't believe this was a leftie unfamiliar with guns, this was an experienced with a gun lefty at the least. By the way, I also made some crazy longer shots with that old mauser 30.06, LOL

Yes, there's a possibility this was a pro hit, but at this point I'm personally not thinking it was, nor do I think it was mossad/Israel. I'm leaning towards it was a rather methodical leftie with a few firing brain cells and VERY familiar with guns that killed Charlie. I may be wrong, but that's where my mind is right now.

I do know I'm likely correct about this next statement; I think there will be more of this, these lunatics have just got a shot in the arm of happy insanity juice over this and have become even more embolden, they think doing things like assassinating conservatives is "progress". Violence is becoming very easy for them and they believe they are in the right no matter what they do. These lunatics are actually inciting more assassinations of conservative publicly online right now, they are even posting lists of names that should be next.

This is about to get really ugly as many conservatives have really had enough of this nonsense and have about reached the point to where fighting back is about the only option. Everyone has a breaking point.

[Raskolnikov]

Thank you all for the continued updates. For what it's worth, a month ago, Harrison Smith on InfoWars addressed Charlie Kirk, urging him not to fear the Israeli donor lobby that had been threatening him. Smith, on X, wrote: “I was told by someone close to Charlie Kirk that Charlie thinks Israel will kill him if he turns against them.” Former FBI agent Stuart Kaplan called it a “well-planned professional hit.” Harrison highlighted a segment from Kirk’s show where Kirk admitted he was “terrified,” and, commenting on it, Harrison argued that Kirk was in fact terrified not of Islamists but of Israelis.

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https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED594/68c2bf768200c.webp

[gini]

People get assasinated to achieve certain political & sociological effects that are beneficial to keep narrative control and manipulating the minds of the massa(,5th generation warfare;mindcontrol). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everywhere in the west -UK,Netherlands,Germany,France -its the same playbook; all types of killings/asssasinations to create outrage,division,polarization culiminating in chaos,so that totalitarian surveillance policies & more censorship can be rolled out & justified without too much push back. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The powers behind this strategy of creating more conflict between the so called "left & right"(wich is a false divisive concept) and between the pro & anti war movements, the pro & anti first & second amendment defenders ,the pro & anti Zionist/Aipac/Israel First or pro & anti Palestine , America first /MAGA etc., would have more than 1 reason to assassinate Charlie Kirk to have that effect and distract the Americans from all the immoral lawlessness happening in Qatar,Venezuela Gaza,Ukraine etc.with their taxdollars. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the Zionist or Mr Global or whoever powerfull enough want to let this happen they dont need to organize an assasination necessarily themselves;they can simply let it happen by not interfering ( the failed assasination of Donald Trump in Butler ,when security gave the sniper a blind eye &let him undisturbed ,so he could shoot without being stopped.?) and then wash their hands in innocence -plausible deny_abilty- because the 'patsy' did it for them without that he was even aware that he was given the space to do it fo fulfill a political agenda.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Or even by hypnotizing someone -unaware- into an assasin as Dennen Brown ,the hypnotist has demonstrated in his video's. ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------Bottom line;If someone has to be silenced or sacrificed,they have 7 ways to sunday to do so --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.A message of intimidation to all political activists;be careful,even if you'r rich,famous or influentual ;you can lose your position ,your freedom or even your life in the wink of an eye if you choose to speak the forbidden truth ,question the mainstream narrative or even call for fair debate .------------------------------------------------------------------------------In a world ruled by lies & deception ,questioning & speaking the truth can be a dangerous thing!:ninja:

[sllim11]

has anyone looked into the two guys behind charlie where they look like the are giving weird hand signals?? it's all over tiktok and youtube j9VJoKQ97kU

meanwhile i have dem friends that think Trump and co sacrificed him for the greater good.
re: not releasing epstein files which he was starting to talk about not to mention he was talking about isreal in a poor light.

[gini]

'🔎 Who Assassinated Charlie Kirk? Psychic Insights + Hidden Motives'. x0Wp5ejhI7s--32 min--11/9/25--Live with Craig: Questions answered about the Charlie Kirk assassination — who did it, why, and what psychic insights reveal behind the motive. Was it politically motivated? Who stands to gain? Dive into hidden forces, spiritual symbolism, predictions, and possible conspiracies as Craig Hamilton-Parker decodes the event, reveals psychic impressions, and explores what this means for the nation.'

[Tintin]

Well, as with Sandy Hook someone had extraordinary foreknowledge, so much so that allegedly an entire book about Charlie Kirk and the aftermath of the shooting and what happens next, was captured by the Internet Archive on September 9th.

The link with timestamp towards the bottom of this page clearly visible:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250911163616/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FQMF466K.

However, as has been questioned on this thread on X (https://x.com/ThinkCoalition/status/1966232915576074683), it could have been a hack of some sort, or an AI generated text.

I'm inclined to the latter.

Still...............

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Various_%28of_interest%29/CKirk_2_Screenshot_2025-09-12_064809.png
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Various_%28of_interest%29/CKirk1_Screenshot_2025-09-12_064642.png

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Just a quick comment on Mike's #101 post above: Mike's argues that the likely culprit is a "pro-palestinian nut job".

Fact is, it's long been a zionist practice to stage murderous events that they will blame on palestinians.

Other facts:
- Charlie Kirk himself had previously mentioned his concern that Israel would target him. We should focus on that.
- This assassination was done by professional(s), not a 'nut job'. Like a professional Mossad hit.
- A gun has recently been found in the vicinity of the murder scene, with cartridges engraved with pro-trans wording. (A clever deflection from the real perpetrators, in my opinion.)


If it is a Mossad agent, or just some demented pro Israel guy who's a great shot from a few hundred yards away and took issue with Charlie's comments on Epstein or Oct 7, then okay, so be it. If Kirk really said he's worried about Israel taking him out, I'd like to hear that. Where can I find it? I'm not ego invested in being right about any of it, I just find it rather annoying that you've found yet another thing to blame on the Jews. You can already blame them for just about everything from herpes to stubbing your toe on your bed frame in just about any thread here, but that wasn't enough - you had to drag that into this thread too.

I wasn't suggesting pro-Palestine people in general are nut jobs, just the ones who would shoot other people due to ideological differences. And the people that Kirk is challenging during all these college tour events are precisely those types. That you'd ignore this very obvious thing in favor of an ideological point you had to make is a little annoying.

My comment right now is only valid if my understanding of the situation is correct.
I believe the weapon found was a WW2 Mauser (spelling ?) , my son has one and is the absolute most inaccurate target tifle he owns, a disgruntled lefty would find it impossible to hit a target from 600 ft with a mauser, it aint gonna happen.
The mauser could have been planted to hide the truth, and if this were a professional "hit", the hitman would not use that weapon, AND you would not use a freaking bolt action rifle IMHO, a different weapon was likely used.
If the first bullit failed you would need to get off atleast another 2 shots within a second or all hopes of a kill would be thwarted.

RRR

I had a Mauser 30-06 many many years ago and could hit a gallon water jug with it at a 100yards all day long. (with open sights). I always had to rest the gun on a fence post or something though.

Personally, I think if this shooter did use this same gun at 200 yards and hit Charlie with it, he must of known the gun VERY well and probably had a good sighted in scope on it. I wouldn't say it's impossible that this was the gun used.

Regardless, this will probably be another one of those events we'll never really know the truth about.

Yeah well we have not been told the truth about many things and then these things are forgotten about or just linger, but i think this is different, people have had enough and are really angry and emotional, i think the push to know the truth will not go away as readily as before, people are openly speaking out regarding issues they were previously afraid to speak about, this effed up killing is bringing people together, there will be a price to pay to those fools who openly celebrate Charlies murder and are calling for others on the right to be Next.
The prone roof shooter (if he were the gunman) prolly had a bi pod or even a rolled up Tshirt as a rest and open sights are cool when prone with a rest, but your 100 yrds is only half the distance as the Kirk shot and a gallon container is (from memory, we are meters) wider than a human neck, so if it was an unhinged lefty i doubt they could pull this off.

Sounds like you have been around firearms and know a thing or two, but most lefties wouldnt even know which end to put the bullet in, and like i said a pro (assassin) would not choose a mauser, thats just mental, unless im missing something.

BTW SilentFeathers, im not trying to ruffle your feathers, just sayin it as i see it, stay cool.............................. RRR

You're not ruffling my feathers, I agree with you to a large extent. I don't believe this was a leftie unfamiliar with guns, this was an experienced with a gun lefty at the least. By the way, I also made some crazy longer shots with that old mauser 30.06, LOL

Yes, there's a possibility this was a pro hit, but at this point I'm personally not thinking it was, nor do I think it was mossad/Israel. I'm leaning towards it was a rather methodical leftie with a few firing brain cells and VERY familiar with guns that killed Charlie. I may be wrong, but that's where my mind is right now.

I do know I'm likely correct about this next statement; I think there will be more of this, these lunatics have just got a shot in the arm of happy insanity juice over this and have become even more embolden, they think doing things like assassinating conservatives is "progress". Violence is becoming very easy for them and they believe they are in the right no matter what they do. These lunatics are actually inciting more assassinations of conservative publicly online right now, they are even posting lists of names that should be next.

This is about to get really ugly as many conservatives have really had enough of this nonsense and have about reached the point to where fighting back is about the only option. Everyone has a breaking point.

" I don't believe this was a leftie unfamiliar with guns,"............ i agree, but im not sure about a gun familiar lefty either,

"Yes, there's a possibility this was a pro hit"...........The Israel connection is worth considering, what do you make about the plane that took off close to the shooting and took off only about 5-10 mins AFTER the shooting and turned off its transponder (or something like that) which is against the rules, i cant help thinking its a pro job and whom ever is charged over the murder is a patsy .

RRR

[Rizotto]

Very interesting analysis by Kim Iversen, on the pros & cons of the most likely suspect to have murdered Charlie Kirk: trans, Israel, or Ukraine?
Kim makes a really good point that Charlie Kirk had been consistent for years in his position about trans ideology, and on the Ukraine war. But on the issue of Israel, Charlie Kirk had during the last few months changed his strong support for Israel to questioning Israel's grip on USA politics. Given Charlie Kirk's huge audience, that shift was worrisome for Israel.

One more interesting detail: Netanyahu allegedly invited Charlie Kirk a couple of weeks prior to the murder, an invitation that Kirk allegedly declined.

This murder looks like a professional job, a very skilled shooter, and team work with decoy suspects that distracted the police while the killer was fleeing.

Who Killed Charlie Kirk? Israel? Trans-Activists? Ukraine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbQ1KtuTyO0

[gini]

' To My Friend, Charlie Kirk.' _dRaEO47-co-- 23 min--12/9/25 --"Good men must die, but death can't kill their names." - CHARLIE KIRK ( 2013 )

[Tintin]

...'Jew blaming' is the same old trick used by zionists and the Israel government to muddle the issue and throw false accusations of 'anti-semitism at anyone who denounce their crimes.

In fact, many Jews oppose zionism and Israel's oppression of Palestinians.

Look up the website "Jewish Voice for Peace", their article entitled:
On Antisemitism, Anti-Zionism and Dangerous Conflations
https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2023/11/09/antisemitism-dangerous/

Thanks for again stressing the difference between Zionism and Judaism, which, and it surprises me that here on the forum of all places, there is still confusion on this issue :handshake:

I, too, am sick to death of this egregious conflation and its continued promulgation, whether through forgiveable ignorance, or wilful association through intellectual laziness, and as a result of being eternally brow-beaten through educational systems with that eternal nonsense :flower:

:focus:

[Tintin]

My goodness, Suzanne Moore, who used to write Op-Eds for the Guardian has contributed a strong piece for the Telegraph. For those still dealing in lazy/idle Left-Right paradigms the Guardian and Telegraph always sat on the opposite sides of the fence, although both should be treated with extreme caution.

All the same, here's the thrust (https://x.com/1MikeFairclough/status/1966192791077200299):


"What has disturbed me so much about Kirk’s murder and the reaction to it is how it shines a light on the absolute aversion so many people have to any notion of debate or disagreement....

I say this as someone who is opposed to most of Kirk’s views and is also aware that political violence belongs to the Right as much as the Left....

Kirk has been dismissed as some kind of Hitler – as Donald Trump and Nigel Farage are also lazily described by their critics. To the strand of the Left that cannot tolerate any dissent from their ideology, he was a white supremacist and a defender of Israel and therefore it’s a good thing that he’s been killed. So many so-called Antifa – self-declared anti-fascists – appear to prefer violence to debate.....

The truth is that anyone who wants to debate or challenge Left-wing orthodoxy in Britain also faces risks, from losing their jobs to constant verbal abuse and serious physical threats. Women who are deemed 'gender critical' receive threats of assault, rape and death. That has been my life for more than 10 years.....

There has been an unravelling of both reality and plurality that has been cheered on by those who paint themselves as kind and virtuous....

Free speech has been imperilled. Authoritarianism rules.....

There is an ever-growing fault line, which is not easily definable as Left or Right, between those who believe in freedom of expression and those who don’t.....

This is a very dark time. The worrying fact is that, if society suppresses political differences or debate, then political violence follows. As George Bernard Shaw said: 'Assassination is the extreme form of censorship'.....

When people who purport to deplore violence go on social media to justify murder, a point has been reached from which we, as a society, can never return. This is fascism in action." The Telegraph

https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/11/charlie-kirk-killing-intolerant-left/


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0lRgxDXAAAG5DI?format=jpg&name=900x900

[ExomatrixTV]

1966437608264724523
source (https://x.com/99Do88/status/1966437608264724523)

[Tintin]

There is a clearer version out there, but, this shared by Matt Wallace on X (https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1966320699905372639) - audio optional; all can determine what's happening here without commentary:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1966320638764699648/vid/avc1/928x720/7aFl5IttKpkpXzIB.mp4

UPDATE: a clearer shorter loop version here at 12 seconds duration

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Various_%28of_interest%29/Loop__-_Kirk_new_release_video--b3e13cc4-e98d-40b5-8f3f-8ad21bf280c6-1.0.mp4

[Nasu]

So ALLEGEDLY, ALLEGEDLY, ALLEGEDLY, dark corners of the interweb have got a suspect, or rather two.

If true, It’s a duo, Omar Najera a self styled non binary person helped Skye Valadez, the shooter, a trans activist, teacher and musician, living in the metro area of salt lake.

Interesting aside, if true, his/her father, Brandon Hegoas, worked or works for Northman Gunthrop.

Skye is a shooter, or at the very least has pictures of him/her with a rifle and a moderator (silencer), not necessarily the gun used.

As for speculation about the use of a bolt action rifle not being up to the job, for various practical reasons too long to explain, for their function, they outperform semiautomatic weapons almost every time, remember our best competitive and professional and military shooters use bolt guns all day long.

It looks like the shot was center mass, ie the chest area, but the body armour redirected the bullet into his neck.

Now that there is a hundred thousand dollar reward out for the shooter, we should know if this intel is true or not very soon. Now we’ll see.

As an aside Pinterest or someone else has already scrubbed Skye’s page and pictures…

Or these individuals are being set up as patsies.

Either way I pray for his poor wife and children…...x……. N

[Bill Ryan]

Very interesting analysis by Kim Iversen, on the pros & cons of the most likely suspect to have murdered Charlie Kirk: trans, Israel, or Ukraine?
Kim makes a really good point that Charlie Kirk had been consistent for years in his position about trans ideology, and on the Ukraine war. But on the issue of Israel, Charlie Kirk had during the last few months changed his strong support for Israel to questioning Israel's grip on USA politics. Given Charlie Kirk's huge audience, that shift was worrisome for Israel.

One more interesting detail: Netanyahu allegedly invited Charlie Kirk a couple of weeks prior to the murder, an invitation that Kirk allegedly declined.

This murder looks like a professional job, a very skilled shooter, and team work with decoy suspects that distracted the police while the killer was fleeing.

Who Killed Charlie Kirk? Israel? Trans-Activists? Ukraine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbQ1KtuTyO0As usual, Rizotto has quickly pointed out what can be argued as the greatest likelihood. Many others are agreeing (including yours truly). Here's a DD Geopolitics poll: (https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/159934)

Who killed Charlie Kirk?
Anonymous Poll

13% Crazy Lone Shooter Tranny
53% Mossad/Israel
8% Ukrainian Intelligence
7% Democrat Hit Man
9% Inside FBI/DOJ job
1% Peter Thiel's Tech Cult
9% ****Lib GenZ Shooter

[Tintin]

This coming from Stephen Miller, Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and Homeland Security Advisor, in both Trump terms, has shared this on X (https://x.com/StephenM/status/1966140301044564370). Sentiment wise I really couldn't agree more, but, how to defeat it would be to continue with Charlie's approach. We do not want the imposition of mass forms of censorship; the work has to be genuinely spiritual. I do hope that this is the spirit in which this has been written - we'll see :flower:

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There is an ideology that has steadily been growing in this country which hates everything that is good, righteous and beautiful and celebrates everything that is warped, twisted and depraved. It is an ideology at war with family and nature. It is envious, malicious, and soulless. It is an ideology that looks upon the perfect family with bitter rage while embracing the serial criminal with tender warmth. Its adherents organize constantly to tear down and destroy every mark of grace and beauty while lifting up everything monstrous and foul. It is an ideology that leads, always, inevitably and willfully, to violence — violence against those uphold order, who uphold faith, who uphold family, who uphold all that is noble and virtuous in this world. It is an ideology whose one unifying thread is the insatiable thirst for destruction.

We see the workings of this ideology in every posting online cheering the evil assassination that cruelly robbed this nation of one of its greatest men. Postings from those in positions of institutional authority — educators, healthcare workers, therapists, government employees — reveling in the vile and the sinister with the most chilling glee.

The fate of millions depends upon the defeat of this wicked ideology. The fate of our children, our society, our civilization hinges on it.

Now we devote ourselves, with love and unyielding determination, to finishing the indispensable work to which Charlie bravely devoted his life and gave his last measure of devotion.
3:02 PM · Sep 11, 2025 · 3.3M Views

[T Smith]

dim/ dumb comment in my opinion. the live by to sword part. I dont know you but I am sure, when applied to your own self, family or friends, if someone was was attacking them to kill them you would be well thankful that someone shot the mother ****er! This Country is only still free because of our 2nd amendment.

the problem today is very few people seem to apply things to what if it were me? The answer is always so opposite when it is their child being attacked, their home being invaded, their car being hit by someone illegal without insurance, when they own their own store, and the liberal smash and grab takes place at their own loss .

People who are anti-gun, take the position of the victims of crime, after the fact. People who are pro-gun take the position of thwarting the aggressor. Both have incomplete understanding. There really is no resolution here. It's like the abortion issue.

Good observation. If we ban the 2nd Amendment, however, the dynamic of that observation would change. We would close the door absolutely on the position of thwarting the aggressor, while the opposing points of view would merge into the same camp, victims of crime.

[seekingtruth]

Trump just announced on Fox they have the suspect in custody as of now. "With a high degree of certainty."

[mountain_jim]

Here is the video of what Trump said

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1966475155141517397

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Catturd ™
@catturd2
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President Trump just said that Charlie Kirk’s killer is in custody.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

Shame on you Stephen King.

1966416740369232145
https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0odmbJXoAAbYn2?format=jpg&name=900x900

If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.

[SilentFeathers]

Trump just announced on Fox they have the suspect in custody as of now. "With a high degree of certainty."

Now the rabbit hole will become even deeper, an easier path to Wonderland.....

[Tigger]

Here’s an important perspective from ‘Down Under’:
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Australians have a finely tuned, well-balanced, often used, “bulls**t indicator”. Most people I’ve spoken to in the last 48 hours are well-aware of CC. They’re also very well-aware of the opportunistic propagada-grab from the mainstream media. Nobody trusts them. The people know that there is an attempt to limit truth and freedom of expression in this country. And most Australians whom I’ve listened to are wise to the constant bulls**t that is rammed down our throats 24/7 by mainstream media channels in proxy of the ‘Capitol’ [the Australian Capitol Territory].

In light of the ‘hit’ on CC, the agenda to squash freedom of speech is under a massive floodlight. It’s wide-out in the open. “The emperor has no clothes”. Everyone sees it.

People in the regional towns are talking. I can’t speak for the big cities, but after travelling across the FNQ area in the last two days, I can tell you that people are waking up, and they’re waking up fast.

I think you’ll find that, tragic as this event is, it may very well have awakened an awareness that will ripple through regional towns and key areas. The cities are dependent on those areas for their food and resources. I believe that this is a “turning point” (to purloin a phrase) that will eventually turn out very badly for those entities behind the attempt to shut-down freedom in any form.

[TrumanCash]

There is a clearer version out there, but, this shared by Matt Wallace on X (https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1966320699905372639) - audio optional; all can determine what's happening here without commentary:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1966320638764699648/vid/avc1/928x720/7aFl5IttKpkpXzIB.mp4

UPDATE: a clearer shorter loop version here at 12 seconds duration

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Various_%28of_interest%29/Loop__-_Kirk_new_release_video--b3e13cc4-e98d-40b5-8f3f-8ad21bf280c6-1.0.mp4

I don't see him carrying a rifle. So if he is the shooter how did the rifle get into the woods?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Suspect apprehended. 22-year-old Tyler Robinson of Utah.

1966489138644807742
https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1966489138644807742

[DNA]

More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

Shame on you Stephen King.

1966416740369232145
https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0odmbJXoAAbYn2?format=jpg&name=900x900

If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.

Stephen King is a deep state black mailed pedophile stooge. If they are utilizing him for an opinion it really is a intelligence hit.

[mountain_jim]

Stephen King is a deep state black mailed pedophile stooge. If they are utilizing him for an opinion it really is a intelligence hit.

And here I thought he was just another lefty TDS-suffering, propaganda-mind-controlled crazy, like I suspect Keith Olbermann is.

[Tigger]

Suspect apprehended. 22-year-old Tyler Robinson of Utah.

1966489138644807742
https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1966489138644807742


Suspect apprehended. 22-year-old Tyler Robinson of Utah.

1966489138644807742
https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1966489138644807742

Yep, this guy has the same shoes. It’s incontrovertible evidence. [sarcasm]. Everybody with those (commonly available) shoes must be held as a suspect. Be careful amidst the hysteria. Perceived evidence is not equivalent to actual evidence.

Please, be careful. Be mindful. We’ve been shown this “dog ‘n pony” show before (JFK anyone?). Are we really going to buy-in to this again?

[SilentFeathers]

There is a clearer version out there, but, this shared by Matt Wallace on X (https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1966320699905372639) - audio optional; all can determine what's happening here without commentary:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1966320638764699648/vid/avc1/928x720/7aFl5IttKpkpXzIB.mp4

UPDATE: a clearer shorter loop version here at 12 seconds duration

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Various_%28of_interest%29/Loop__-_Kirk_new_release_video--b3e13cc4-e98d-40b5-8f3f-8ad21bf280c6-1.0.mp4

I don't see him carrying a rifle. So if he is the shooter how did the rifle get into the woods?

He's carrying something wrapped in what looks like black cloth or a jacket. It could be a rifle.

I watched the clip several times and I honestly can't say he wasn't carrying a rifle.

If he really is the shooter and actually used a Mauser 30-06, I must say, that was an incredible shot! Perhaps even a "lucky" shot. There's no way he was inexperienced with guns, especially that specific gun.

It's not impossible that this is what actually happened and this really is the shooter. It's very easy to wander down all the rabbit holes in situations like this. Humans have wild imaginations!

At this point this is what I'm thinking what went down, I can change my mind though if "evidence" steers me in a different direction.

[TrumanCash]

FBI Director Kash Patel to Hold Press Conference on Arrest of Charlie Kirk Shooting Suspect


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzDvPkByzs

[grapevine]

Visa STOPPED for Foreigners who Celebrated Charlie Kirk Assassination

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJD9n7vx9a4 (8:56)
Huge shift in policy by The US State Department. plus UK Authority Figures under criticism

[thepainterdoug]

Seems they have their man. Im sure we all saw the press conference. No one knows conspiracy theories better than the members on Avalon, myself included. But I had to remind my friend this morning, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

Are there oddities here in the story so far? ? There always are. The gun while jumping off the roof? 7000, now up to 11 thousand tips to the Feds? Of course these could be wrong estimates etc.
But all the info is not nearly in and many people , including my friend are determined to small a rat. This is the result of the american people being lied to so many times

anyone hear any discrepancies so far?

I will wait ,watch and see it play out.
pd

[Arcturian108]

George Webb is live right now on Twitter/X talking about how they got the patsy but not the team that got away on a private plane. He discusses how a breakaway group of disaffected ATF guys likely formed this team. So, how is the Trump administration going to handle this part of the problem I wonder?

[rgray222]

i was going to put this on the great quotes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8309-the-great-quotes-thread&p=71497&viewfull=1#post71497) thread but i think it is more appropriate here on this day


hate can not drive out hate, only love can do that.
Martin luther king.

bs .......................................... Rrr

Rob, as a rule, I normally let these types of comments pass without concern. Please understand that I ask this question with no anger or animosity, but rather pure curiosity. It is my feeling that Martin Luther King put this so succinctly because he understood that love was the only true antidote for hate. Had this young man (or whoever you believe pulled the trigger), had love in their heart instead of hate, Charlie Kirk would still be alive today. This is simply a fact. It may sound a bit trite to you, but often the truth is just as simple as it gets.
What would you consider the antidote for hate?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Mugshot below.

1966517899578806273
https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1966517899578806273

[mountain_jim]

More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

Shame on you Stephen King.

1966416740369232145
https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0odmbJXoAAbYn2?format=jpg&name=900x900

If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.


King retracts....



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0prsmuXEAE2sPn?format=jpg&name=large

[Mike]

Another woke lunatic strikes again. Never saw that one coming. I sat up all night running scenarios thru my head, and that's the one thing I would have never guessed.

[T Smith]

Suspect apprehended. 22-year-old Tyler Robinson of Utah.

1966489138644807742
https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1966489138644807742

100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.

[T Smith]

More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

Shame on you Stephen King.

1966416740369232145
https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0odmbJXoAAbYn2?format=jpg&name=900x900

If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.

Stephen King is a deep state black mailed pedophile stooge. If they are utilizing him for an opinion it really is a intelligence hit.

That's giving him a lot of credit. He sounds more like a complete idiot to me. Just my two cents.

But he does have a great imagination and knows how to churn out a good b-rate piece of fiction.

[T Smith]

Seems they have their man. Im sure we all saw the press conference. No one knows conspiracy theories better than the members on Avalon, myself included. But I had to remind my friend this morning, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar



We know nothing at all, yet, about this 22 year old kid. Maybe he was an expert marksman, or in a rifle club, or went to the gun range every week. Dunno. But first question that jumps out to me is how he could pull off such a precise shot from that distance if he was some woke lunatic with a grievance.

Time will tell; the truth will eventually come out.

[bojancan]

It is very sad, what is happening now... in political arena in US...
I remember some videos and articles where they talked with Charlie... Cenk, Anna on YT and others... I like their debates... and I like to listen Charlie too..

Here is Mehdi.. talking about some are politicizing this tragedy... and I think he is right... anyhow, I do not agree with everything with him.. vaccines etc... but I respect Mehdi stands about free speech and Palestinian rights ... I know some right wing people, are smearing him.. with hateful intentions... in my eyes, he is very honest human being and very smart one...
It is very sad situation! Period!

Sept, 12
Democracy Now!
2.98M subscribers
Trump Is Weaponizing the Murder of Charlie Kirk to Go After the Left: Mehdi Hasan
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President Trump announced on Friday that a suspect was in custody for the killing of far-right activist Charlie Kirk. Although the motive has not yet been established, Trump has escalated his attacks on the political left, saying, "We just have to beat the hell out of them." Democracy Now! speaks with Mehdi Hasan, editor-in-chief and CEO of Zeteo, who says that the right is using Kirk's killing to smear the left.

"There's a real rewriting of history going on. It's what far-right regimes do after tragedies like this: They try and weaponize them to go after their enemies," says Hasan. "None of us should celebrate political violence, because it's a threat to all of us," he adds.

[ExomatrixTV]

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source (https://x.com/JuniorFaFo/status/1966297503810105355/photo/1)

see also this (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1966297078449188942)

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[ExomatrixTV]

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[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1966545475663696052

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Concerned Citizen
@BGatesIsaPyscho
·
1h
“Charlie Kirk loved Trump & Trump loved him - he was one of the only people that went to the White House and said I think the war with Iran is a bad thing”

“He took massive, massive abuse from his own Donors”

Tucker Carlson speaking to Megyn Kelly.

[bojancan]

One comment:"FBI did nothing.... The police did nothing.... They were handed the killer."
Very suspicious to me....

Sept, 12
Adam Mockler
1.54M subscribers
Charlie Kirk Shooter Wrote Memes on Bullets
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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.

I don't think they need mind-controlled patsies playing the lunatic anymore, do they? Not patsies in the traditional sense. They've an army of willing lunatics out there that they created, created by bombarding them with propaganda these last ten years. "Nazism." "Fascism." "White supremacy." To many of these fools, that's what Charlie Kirk represented. You need only trawl social media feeds to see how many on the left are fully condoning this act. They're whooping and laughing and punching the air. The hatred is real, and the media stoked it.

I'm not saying its impossible he's a patsy, but I highly doubt it. Also, who do you mean when you say "those managing the public perception narrative"? Not Trump or anyone in his regime..(?). Personally, I don't see that happening. Not with Charlie Kirk. Not in a million years.

[ExomatrixTV]

https://nmosknews.ru/img/20250912/78ac003452cad996c23634f53f76f3d0_o.jpg


nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/charlie-kirk-shot-suspect-tyler-robinson-in-custody-live-updates (https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/charlie-kirk-shot-suspect-tyler-robinson-in-custody-live-updates/)

[Jaak]

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[mountain_jim]

100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.

I don't think they need mind-controlled patsies playing the lunatic anymore, do they? Not patsies in the traditional sense. They've an army of willing lunatics out there that they created, created by bombarding them with propaganda these last ten years. "Nazism." "Fascism." "White supremacy." To many of these fools, that's what Charlie Kirk represented. You need only trawl social media feeds to see how many on the left are fully condoning this act. They're whooping and laughing and punching the air. The hatred is real, and the media stoked it.

I'm not saying its impossible he's a patsy, but I highly doubt it. Also, who do you mean when you say "those managing the public perception narrative"? Not Trump or anyone in his regime..(?). Personally, I don't see that happening. Not with Charlie Kirk. Not in a million years.

Clandestine agrees

https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1966568977498263988

1966568977498263988

What is the root of the problem?

This demonic Left-wing ideology and the corrupt MSM that broadcasts their violent rhetoric.

This is NOT an isolated event. This is an extension of the treasonous conspiracy against Trump and We the People.

The Dems/MSM created this monster.

This was not an accident. This was by design. They created a standing army of brainwashed extremists who actually believe Trump and his supporters are Nazis, and they have been conditioned to think it’s okay to use violence against us.

The Dems/MSM have REPEATEDLY encouraged their supporters to use violence against Trump and his supporters, based on lies that they created.

This is not hyperbole. This is reality.

We are under attack from within, and until we address the root of the problem, things will not change.



https://x.com/LucienWolfe111/status/1966499985203015733

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Dr. Lucien Wolfe 🇺🇸
@LucienWolfe111
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Tyler Robinson didn’t just “snap.”
He was manufactured.

Classrooms became factories.
Professors became engineers.
And out the other side comes another radical, programmed to hate.

The question isn’t *why him*.
The question is: how many more are they building right now?



https://x.com/catturd2/status/1966566343278235787

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Catturd ™
@catturd2
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College = woke communist far-left indoctrination camps.
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End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
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From a regular middle class family. Good grades. Went off to college. Became an extremist Antifa kiIIer.



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[Bill Ryan]

I think this is important. And I feel I have to confess that I still don't trust the all-too-familiar narrative about yet another 'lone shooter'.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/160000

The text:
The Greyzone reports (https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/) that Charlie Kirk’s assassination followed a sharp break with Israel and its powerful allies. A Trump insider and close friend said Kirk rejected Netanyahu’s offer to flood Turning Point USA with new donor money, believing it was an attempt to silence his growing criticism of Israel’s outsized influence in Washington.

Once one of the most reliable pro-Israel voices on the right, Kirk had begun openly questioning Netanyahu’s sway over Trump, warning against a U.S. strike on Iran and raising suspicions about Israeli intelligence operations. His shift reflected growing anti-Israel sentiment among younger conservatives and came to a head at his July summit, where speakers openly denounced Israel’s role in U.S. politics.

In the weeks before his September 10 assassination, Kirk said he was receiving a barrage of angry messages from wealthy pro-Israel donors, which left him shaken and fearful. Candace Owens and other allies described him as being under intense pressure and in the midst of a “spiritual transformation.”

While no evidence directly ties Israel to Kirk’s killing, speculation exploded online, fueled by his recent break with Netanyahu. The Israeli leader quickly denied involvement and tried to frame Kirk as a loyal friend of Israel, while figures like Ben Shapiro seized the moment to attack him and move in on his audience.

Read full article (https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/)
DDGeopolitics/160000

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

A shocking number of people seen rejoicing Kirk's murder are teachers and university professors. Education. That's the real indoctrination camp. That's where the damage is being done. In my view, there's no better time than now than to home-school your kids.

The media too, of course, who have been infiltrated top to bottom. Look at this. Wikipedia -- the go-to encyclopedia of everything -- had this to say on Charlie Kirk's page less than 24hrs after his death.

They've since changed this after backlash.
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Think word-magic also. See how they word [frame] these three headlines.
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[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/G_Male_Baby/status/1966542195407634666

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Christopher
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He was probably drawing from concealed carry in order to be ready to engage anyone who is a threat. This is not a surprise.
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Concerned Citizen
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New video emerges of a Man in the immediate chaos after the assassination appearing to be clutching a hand gun.


MJTruthUltra
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UPDATE: Charlie Kirk

🚨 Video of a Man in the Crowd spotted Running Away with Gun after Charlie Kirk was Shot

Three thoughts:

1. It could simply someone with a concealed carry who pulled after the fact

2. Authorities did say they had “Plain Clothed” officers in the crowd that day

3. This person should be easily identifiable. At the very least, I hope the FBI talks to, identifies, and clears him, and tells the public. If they don’t, it will only fuel speculation.

🔻 Considering his build, I would say he’s plain clothed law enforcement… because it would have been foolish to run around with a weapon drawn after what just happened.



Candace Owens
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Bibi Netanyahu lied about the contents of the letter Charlie wrote to him in May.
It was a lie by severe omission and it isn’t sitting right with me.



Candace Owens
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Correct. More people were involved and we need to know whom. A lot of school shootings are related to discord chats so there is an underground emerging and we need to know who the directors of it are.
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Phil Holloway ✈️
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So Tyler Robinson was communicating with someone(s) on discord prior to, and about the assassinat!on of Charlie Kirk

Someone provided him with the rifle



https://x.com/0HOUR1__/status/1966519972366106922

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Discord Chats will be key in this investigation.

Tyler was texting how to get the weapon back to friends.

So they knew he did that ****.

How many did he tell is key.

Did he speak about violence prior to Charlie Kirk's murder.

If they find a huge chatroom where he proclaimed he wanted to hurt Charlie all these little ****s are accessories to a murder.

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1966578802441810094

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Andy Ngo

@MrAndyNgo
As always when an Antifa radical is exposed for deadly violence—Charles Landeros, Connor Betts, Willem van Spronsen, Michael Reinoehl—the left and Antifa scramble to cover, spinning lies and disinformation while the media looks away.

But this time, the assassination of Charlie Kirk is too big for the media to ignore, unlike how they've treated the other victims. So expect misdirection from leftists again: claims about the suspect’s conservative parents, or that the arrow markings on a cartridge were just a video game reference, or that he didn't make a trans reference but rather a furry one.

What they ignore are the facts. Other cartridges were inscribed with “Hey fascist!” and lyrics from the Antifa anthem “Bella Ciao”—the same lyric cited in Willem van Spronsen’s manifesto before his terrorist attack in Tacoma, Wash. And the suspect’s own family told investigators their son said Kirk was “spreading hate,” echoing the same rhetoric from Antifa, liberals and the far-left now openly celebrating his murder. https://ngocomment.com/p/charlie-kirk-assassin-suspect-appears

[Bill Ryan]

Here's Larry Johnson, who knows a lot about weapons, talking to Judge Napolitano a few hours ago about Tyler Robinson's purported Mauser rifle, and what it would have taken for Robinson to have taken the single kill shot.

What's VERY interesting are the 800+ comments. Followers of Judge Nap's in-depth geopolitical interviews make up a smart, discerning and extremely well-informed community. The comments are overwhelmingly dubious and critical about the currently emerging 'official story'. And many are pointing at Israel.

This doesn't mean that the official story is false or deceptive. What it does show (at least!) is that very few now automatically believe or trust any 'official' narrative about anything at all. And I'd suggest it also shows that there's now a widespread, deep-seated distrust of anything at all connected with Israel, its capabilities, its black ops record, and/or its motivations and agendas.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8MdlrnNzC0

[T Smith]

100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.

I don't think they need mind-controlled patsies playing the lunatic anymore, do they? Not patsies in the traditional sense. They've an army of willing lunatics out there that they created, created by bombarding them with propaganda these last ten years. "Nazism." "Fascism." "White supremacy." To many of these fools, that's what Charlie Kirk represented. You need only trawl social media feeds to see how many on the left are fully condoning this act. They're whooping and laughing and punching the air. The hatred is real, and the media stoked it.

I'm not saying its impossible he's a patsy, but I highly doubt it. Also, who do you mean when you say "those managing the public perception narrative"? Not Trump or anyone in his regime..(?). Personally, I don't see that happening. Not with Charlie Kirk. Not in a million years.

I agree 100%; there is an entire army of brainwashed drifters primed for exactly this kind of desired violence, and for all the reasons (and more) you mention. I'm not suggesting the alleged shooter is a Sirhan Sirhan or Mark David Chapman kind of patsy--it just seems plausible to me that there may also be some shadow guidance facilitating the crime -- the kid might have planned this (even discussed it over social media) or even believes 100% he committed the shooting -- the press release mentioned there was a drop point to pick up the rifle wrapped in a towel. Who orchestrated the drop? How did he get the rifle? How did he know how to use it? And there may be perfectly plausible answers to all these questions; but I just haven't heard them answered yet. When I do, I guess i'll have a better idea of whether this guy is really a lone wolf or some leftist lunatic who was very expertly manipulated to pull off the crime.

To be clear, I'm only speculating about all this at this point. But from what i know so far, it doesn't sound like a lone wolf shooting to me -- it sounds more like Mossad (or some other organized interest), with vast resources to psychologically profile from social media surveillance, and who may have "guided" or facilitated the perfect fall guy. Or somehow assured the bullet hit the intended target.

Also, if the FBI--even under the Trump administration--had evidence that Mossad was the mastermind behind this plot, or even involved in any way, would they really be transparent about that? Wouldn't it be easier to just claim they got their guy, a quasi-half truth, and chalk up a victory for justice instead of opening that can of worms?

I'm open to the lone wolf explanation. I just want more answers before I fully embrace it.

[SilentFeathers]

100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.

I don't think they need mind-controlled patsies playing the lunatic anymore, do they? Not patsies in the traditional sense. They've an army of willing lunatics out there that they created, created by bombarding them with propaganda these last ten years. "Nazism." "Fascism." "White supremacy." To many of these fools, that's what Charlie Kirk represented. You need only trawl social media feeds to see how many on the left are fully condoning this act. They're whooping and laughing and punching the air. The hatred is real, and the media stoked it.

I'm not saying its impossible he's a patsy, but I highly doubt it. Also, who do you mean when you say "those managing the public perception narrative"? Not Trump or anyone in his regime..(?). Personally, I don't see that happening. Not with Charlie Kirk. Not in a million years.

I agree 100%; there is an entire army of brainwashed drifters primed for exactly this kind of desired violence, and for all the reasons (and more) you mention. I'm not suggesting the alleged shooter is a Sirhan Sirhan or Mark David Chapman kind of patsy--it just seems plausible to me that there may also be some shadow guidance facilitating the crime -- the kid might have planned this (even discussed it over social media) or even believes 100% he committed the shooting -- the press release mentioned there was a drop point to pick up the rifle wrapped in a towel. Who orchestrated the drop? How did he get the rifle? How did he know how to use it? And there may be perfectly plausible answers to all these questions; but I just haven't heard them answered yet. When I do, I guess i'll have a better idea of whether this guy is really a lone wolf or some leftist lunatic who was very expertly manipulated to pull off the crime.

To be clear, I'm only speculating about all this at this point. But from what i know so far, it doesn't sound like a lone wolf shooting to me -- it sounds more like Mossad (or some other organized interest), with vast resources to psychologically profile from social media surveillance may have "guided" or facilitated the perfect fall guy. Or somehow assured the bullet hit the intended target.

Also, if the FBI--even under the Trump administration--had evidence that Mossad was the mastermind behind this plot, or even involved in any way, would they really be transparent about that? Wouldn't it be easier to just claim they got their guy, a quasi-half truth, and chalk up a victory for justice instead of opening that can of worms?

I'm open to the lone wolf explanation. I just want more answers before I fully embrace it.

Personally I'm thinking it is basically what it appears to be. A kid growing up in a somewhat normal "conservative" leaning family, probably hunting with dad for many years and familiar with guns. Went off to college and got radicalized by the insanity of the left like so many of the young are now-a-days.

I'm not seeing hardly any of the bizzarro upside down and backwards ridiculous BS like we saw with Thomas Crooks and the whole Butler PA fiasco. I'm not seeing all these red flags like so many are claiming that makes me lean towards it was some kind of grand conspiracy, by Israel or anyone else.

I may be wrong, but, at this point I don't think I am. The scumbag got off a lucky shot that hit its target, probably with his or his dads deer rifle that he shot many times through the years.

[thepainterdoug]

So what are the oddities, anomalies , things that dont add up about this event? would anyone share their observations?

i dont understand the gun, the one perfect shot? the bullet? was it found? is the distance doable? then when running on the roof , where was the gun? when he jumped, i didnt see it? there are many strange things but as of yet , not enough to convince me it is not what it appears to be. but I really dont know?
what would be the purpose? who did it? whos covering it up? there a lot of complicated working parts in it. things need to align. not so easy
pd

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The scumbag got off a lucky shot that hit its target, probably with his or his dads deer rifle that he shot many times through the years.

What I too am thinking currently, but provisionally, of course. Other possibilities exist, as T Smith alluded to.

The fact he hit him in the neck is also worth consideration. I'm no gun expert, but who aims for the neck? Likely, he aimed for the head or chest, and the inaccuracy of a Mauser over such a distance might account for the wayward neck-shot.

[SilentFeathers]

So what are the oddities, anomalies , things that dont add up about this event? would anyone share their observations?

i dont understand the gun, the one perfect shot? the bullet? was it found? is the distance doable? then when running on the roof , where was the gun? when he jumped, i didnt see it? there are many strange things but as of yet , not enough to convince me it is not what it appears to be. but I really dont know?
what would be the purpose? who did it? whos covering it up? there a lot of complicated working parts in it. things need to align. not so easy
pd

It's hard to say what information being reported is actually "absolutely" correct.

Like right at first Cash Patel reported they have the shooter in custody and then they release the guy and say it wasn't the guy.

Someone then immediately reported they found the rifle in the woods and everyone ran with this claim. But, in the last 24hrs I've heard 3 different reports that a rifle with a scope was "recovered", with oddly no mentioning of exactly where it was recovered. For all we know it may of actually been recovered on the roof where the shot was taken.

Patels boo boo created all kinds of conspiracy theories and also the gun in the woods now has many confused.

I think more will become clear in the days to come, but right now what we are seeing is all kinds of sensational theories and speculation.

[SilentFeathers]

The scumbag got off a lucky shot that hit its target, probably with his or his dads deer rifle that he shot many times through the years.

What I too am thinking currently, but provisionally, of course. Other possibilities exist, as T Smith alluded to.

The fact he hit him in the neck is also worth consideration. I'm no gun expert, but who aims for the neck? Likely, he aimed for the head or chest, and the inaccuracy of a Mauser over such a distance might account for the wayward neck-shot.

Anything is possible, that's for sure.

Not all Mausers are completely inaccurate, some do shoot better than others. The one I had was pretty accurate although I would of never taken a shot at a deer with it at 600ft. To hit a deer at 600ft I would of considered a "damn lucky shot" with the Mauser I had for sure. I never had a scope on mine though, which may of made me more likely to take a shot at a deer at such a long distance. (if I had it sighted in at, say, 100 yards or more.)

At a distance of 600ft he could of been aiming at the center of the chest and hit him in the neck. I highly doubt he was exactly aiming at Charlies neck. Like I said earlier, with that gun and at that distance, he got off a lucky shot that hit the target.

[thepainterdoug]

How odd the number of 911 calls and tips? first 7 thousand then up to 11 thousand? could anyone handle those calls in that time frame? thats bizarre. then walking in the street prior to the event, the suspect limping with a stiff leg allegedly hiding the gun.
well how did he get off the roof running , with the gun? its never seen? how could he jump down with a gun in his pants. or was it not there?
things starting to be troublesome.

sorry if repeating myself. Im not getting time to see all comments and answers

[TrumanCash]

So what are the oddities, anomalies , things that dont add up about this event? would anyone share their observations?

i dont understand the gun, the one perfect shot? the bullet? was it found? is the distance doable? then when running on the roof , where was the gun? when he jumped, i didnt see it? there are many strange things but as of yet , not enough to convince me it is not what it appears to be. but I really dont know?
what would be the purpose? who did it? whos covering it up? there a lot of complicated working parts in it. things need to align. not so easy
pd

Yes, you ask good questions. As I pointed out in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130341-Charlie-Kirk-assassinated-10-Sept-2025&p=1684958&viewfull=1#post1684958) no fully assembled rifle can be seen as he runs across the roof, climbs over the side and jumps to the ground. When he hits the ground his body fully squats, due to a phenomenon known as gravity, showing that he had no assembled rifle and nowhere else does one see a rifle.

In the video in Bill Ryan's post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130341-Charlie-Kirk-assassinated-10-Sept-2025&p=1685039&viewfull=1#post1685039) Larry Johnson indicates the rifle could have been disassembled and put in his back pack in five minutes.

However, I question that because as "Tyler" was climbing off the roof he swings his back pack and it appears quite small. In a cursory searching I found there are several models of Mausers but all I could find on barrel length was 22" and 24". Also, the solid, one-piece stock is about as long as the barrel. Could it fit in that small back pack?

Also, Michael Jaco, a former military Seal Team Six member and former CIA, explores "Was the Charlie Kirk Shooting a false flag (https://rumble.com/v6yuhdu-turning-the-tide-911-justice-in-2025-day-3-presentations-and-discussion-on-.html?e9s=src_v1_sa%2Csrc_v1_sa_o%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a)?" He shows strange anomalies in the video of Charlie Kirk being shot including his t-shirt blowing upwards.

The photo does not show the whole back pack but it does look somewhat small to hide the barrel and stock of a Mauser. Given that the sound of the rifle shot would disclose his position, why would he want to spend five minutes taking the rifle apart? Wouldn't that pretty much make him a sitting duck? And then he stopped to reassemble the rifle and leave it in the woods nearby? I am not convinced. In fact, I think this may be the "smoking gun" (except their is no gun). :hmm:

Additionally, this fellow had a 4.0 grade point average. Wasn't he smart enough not to leave the evidence lying nearby in the woods? :doh:

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Additionally, this event just happened to occur one day before 9/11 which created a very major distraction for Americans to take their minds off 9/11 or from viewing events like "Turning the Tide -- 9/11 Justice in 2025 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/turning-the-tide-911-justice-in-2025-tickets-1560031398909)", a 5 1/2 hour production shown on "Redacted News" (links below). The distraction worked very well.


https://www.youtube.com/live/_yBc8lXToTc

Rumble: https://rumble.com/v6yuhdu-turning-the-tide-911-justice-in-2025-day-3-presentations-and-discussion-on-.html?e9s=src_v1_sa%2Csrc_v1_sa_o%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a

Call me a "conspiracy theorist" but the words MKUltra mind control and the letters C.I.A come to my mind.

[Arcturian108]

What do the hand signals these two men are making right behind Charlie mean? Could be signaling the shooter. These videos are getting scrubbed from the net faster than I can put them up here. Video.
(https://military-faith.com/2025/09/11/breaking-hand-signals-spotted-before-charlie-kirk-shooting-witness-celebrates-afterward/)
This is the second time I am seeing this video, and didn't realize how close they were to Charlie. They do not look like Mossad agents to me. I think that this murder was created much closer to where it occurred. I continue to believe that George Webb is correct in targeting disaffected ATF guys in Utah. Before this week I would have thought that Utah, being run by Mormons, would be one of the safest places to hold such events. But there is a dark side to the Mormon religion, especially with the breakaway polygamist group that Webb feels are running drugs from Mexico to Utah.

[SilentFeathers]

This is the reading and analysis of the Affidavit of Probable Cause for Arrest Warrant for the shooter.

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[Rizotto]

It's significant, and regrettable, that Trump himself is catering to the 'divide & conquer' violence by making broad accusations against the 'radical left' following the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Remember, the spectacular assassination of Charlie Kirk has deflected public attention from the recent USA/Israel crime spree, such as:
- the horrific I$rael-USA genocide of Palestinians, which Trump himself is aiding and abetting.
- the outrageous I$rael-USA assassination of Hamas negotiators in Doha,
- the horrendous USA assassination of 11 people in a boat off Venezuela's coast,
- the cowardly I$rael attacks on an unarmed civilian aid flotilla to Gaza,
- the cover up of the Epstein files and their blackmail connection to I$rael (which Charlie Kirk himself had been denouncing),
- the Israel-USA surprise unprovoked attack on Iran which killed hundreds of Iranian civilians.
- I$rael's links to 9/11, evidence of which the important Tucker Carlson investigation is now in the process of releasing publicly.

Criminal violence has been USA-I$rael's mode of operation for decades, and we shouldn't be surprised when it spreads throughout society.
Add to that internet chat groups that can easily be infiltrated to manipulate individual members into committing drastic acts.
Which is what I think happened here. Never forget that Israel has a long track record for internet trolling and manipulation.

It's just a little too convenient timing that Trump is using the Charlie Kirk tragedy to whip up social unrest, while Trump's own murderous spree is taking back seat in the public discourse.

By the way, I personally oppose violence. Peaceful and transparent dialogue is the solution.

[thepainterdoug]

rizotto/ cannot agree regarding some of these, a boat of drug dealing low life criminal scumbags do not equate to C Kirk in any stretch
we have a president that right or wrong, extreme or not is in charge of protecting the american people. I see those actions you list as part of that job,

[ExomatrixTV]

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source (https://x.com/Vinod_r108/status/1966540775430427047)
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source (https://x.com/Scorpwebb/status/1966528270200864885)

[thepainterdoug]

erika kirk talk tonight. Profound

[sllim11]

this is replying to arcturian108's last post on this thread...


i posted about this #129 on this thread. to me it looks super suss, but what do i know. people been posted this all over tiktok questioning. people also saying the guy in the black shirt was actually the guy that was near trump when he DID NOT get assassinated. i've looked at pictures comparing the guy black tshirt guy to trump guy and i think the trump guy looks way older than the guy behind charlie... anyway on tiktok those videos are in abundance.

[sllim11]

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[Bill Ryan]

erika kirk talk tonight. ProfoundHere's the video. Erika starts talking at 13:45. :flower:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5SHpvRYg_o

[SilentFeathers]

erika kirk talk tonight. Profound

It took extreme strength and courage for her to step up and speak as she did when the death of her husband is so fresh on her mind and spirit. I was quite moved.

It blows my mind that so many are celebrating Charlies death, this is a huge problem and it's extremely dangerous. Quite sickening....

[rgray222]

It's significant, and regrettable, that Trump himself is catering to the 'divide & conquer' violence by making broad accusations against the 'radical left' following the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Remember, the spectacular assassination of Charlie Kirk has deflected public attention from the recent USA/Israel crime spree, such as:
- the horrific I$rael-USA genocide of Palestinians, which Trump himself is aiding and abetting.
- the outrageous I$rael-USA assassination of Hamas negotiators in Doha,
- the horrendous USA assassination of 11 people in a boat off Venezuela's coast,
- the cowardly I$rael attacks on an unarmed civilian aid flotilla to Gaza,
- the cover up of the Epstein files and their blackmail connection to I$rael (which Charlie Kirk himself had been denouncing),
- the Israel-USA surprise unprovoked attack on Iran which killed hundreds of Iranian civilians.
- I$rael's links to 9/11, evidence of which the important Tucker Carlson investigation is now in the process of releasing publicly.

Criminal violence has been USA-I$rael's mode of operation for decades, and we shouldn't be surprised when it spreads throughout society.
Add to that internet chat groups that can easily be infiltrated to manipulate individual members into committing drastic acts.
Which is what I think happened here. Never forget that Israel has a long track record for internet trolling and manipulation.

It's just a little too convenient timing that Trump is using the Charlie Kirk tragedy to whip up social unrest, while Trump's own murderous spree is taking a back seat in the public discourse.

By the way, I personally oppose violence. Peaceful and transparent dialogue is the solution.

I find it insensitive and callous that you seem unconcerned about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. You actually seem to believe that Trump is the cause of the "social unrest" and not the assassination of Charlie Kirk. We have been watching this movie for almost 10 years, and people can easily identify TDS. Also, all the Israeli stuff you're bringing up seems unrelated to the assassination itself, there are plenty of threads where that can go.

I watched Erika Kirk speak out tonight and it was moving and heartfelt.

[T Smith]

Not the most savvy sports commentating analyst out there, but after this broadcast, I'm now a fan.

Kudos to Steven Smith.

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[RatRodRob...RRR]

erika kirk talk tonight. ProfoundHere's the video. Erika starts talking at 13:45. :flower:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5SHpvRYg_o

That was hard to watch but what an amazing woman.

[gini]

This really make sense!Kim brings in a convincing analysis on the dynamics around CK death eYTPkLVTEbA. --31 min--13/9/25--'Why Nick Fuentes Will Be Blamed For Charlie Kirk's Death'

[RatRodRob...RRR]

i was going to put this on the great quotes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8309-the-great-quotes-thread&p=71497&viewfull=1#post71497) thread but i think it is more appropriate here on this day


hate can not drive out hate, only love can do that.
Martin luther king.

bs .......................................... Rrr

Rob, as a rule, I normally let these types of comments pass without concern. Please understand that I ask this question with no anger or animosity, but rather pure curiosity. It is my feeling that Martin Luther King put this so succinctly because he understood that love was the only true antidote for hate. Had this young man (or whoever you believe pulled the trigger), had love in their heart instead of hate, Charlie Kirk would still be alive today. This is simply a fact. It may sound a bit trite to you, but often the truth is just as simple as it gets.
What would you consider the antidote for hate?

Hi rgray, i hear you and agree, love compassion empathy understanding are extremely important in a functioning society, there should be no room for hatred malice greed etc, BUT when someone deliberately planned and executed that plan to shoot a bloke in the neck in full view of that mans wife and kids, in front of thousands of innocent men and women, that bloke does not deserve love understanding compassion, not getting mine anyway.
He absolutely deserves all the punishment headed his way (this is of course if hes the shooter) and i hope he rots away in a cell, my judgement and reasoning is NOT out of hatred, cause im an eye for an eye kinda bloke when it comes to heinousness and brutal actions performed, played out by an evil and sick individual, there has to be tough consequences for crimes of this nature.
Not being a smart a..e here rgray but would you still feel the love for this bloke if he blew the neck off of your dad..?

RRR

[gini]

Douglas Macgregor Exposes the Truth Behind Charlie Kirk’s Assassination — “Don’t Trust the FBI”. HR4qw567rRk. --28 min--Sep 12, 2025
'Col. Douglas Macgregor voices skepticism about official narratives on recent and past violent incidents, criticizes U.S. institutions like the FBI, and argues that elections are manipulated by money and organization. He rejects gun bans as ineffective, stresses that America has lost its moral foundation, and sees alternative media as the only path to truth. He also calls for a clear national strategy, possibly using the National Guard, to restore order in cities.

Key Topics

-Disagreements with Charlie and concerns about donor influence.

-Doubts about the Butler shooting and parallels with JFK/RFK cases.

-Deep distrust of the FBI and federal institutions.

-Rejection of claims that right-wing extremism drives most violence.

-Belief that U.S. elections lack integrity due to funding and ballot harvesting.

-Condemnation of online “kill lists” targeting conservatives.

-Loss of a Christian-based moral compass in society.

-Support for using the National Guard with a transparent, strategic plan.

Main Message

According to Col. Macgregor, America suffers from corrupted institutions, manipulated elections, and a collapse of moral grounding. To rebuild trust and order, leaders must adopt a transparent strategy, restore credibility, and take decisive action—even with federal force if necessary.'

[Tintin]

More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

Shame on you Stephen King.

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https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0odmbJXoAAbYn2?format=jpg&name=900x900

If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.

Stephen King has now apologised. If he'd posted that in the UK he'd have been Connolly'd (as in Lucy Connolly - locked up):

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[Tintin]

John B. Wells chimes in; he's usually on the money:

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[Tintin]

More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

Shame on you Stephen King.

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https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0odmbJXoAAbYn2?format=jpg&name=900x900

If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.

Stephen King has now apologised. If he'd posted that in the UK he'd have been Connolly'd (as in Lucy Connolly - locked up):

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And, somewhat appropriately, although very trivial, I admit:

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Not the most savvy sports commentating analyst out there, but after this broadcast, I'm now a fan.

Kudos to Steven Smith.

M8QQTea3-qs

:bump:

That was truly awesome. Almost one for the ages.

[Tintin]

Not the most savvy sports commentating analyst out there, but after this broadcast, I'm now a fan.

Kudos to Steven Smith.

M8QQTea3-qs

:bump:

That was truly awesome. Almost one for the ages.

Absolutely. YES :sun:

[norman]

Did Body Armor Contribute?
Paramount Tactical - Sep 11


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[guayabal]

Interesting: This is how they shot Charlie Kirk:

https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099
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(https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099)

[ExomatrixTV]

The Martyr (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr) Effect explains why most oppressive, tyrannical networks (https://johnkuhles.substack.com/p/the-real-biggest-global-risks-in) often hesitate to silence their fiercest critics outright. Such a killing risks igniting a massive revolution or uprising, awakening a new generation to resist in unpredictable, multifaceted ways that ripple across society, defying A.I. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-)'s most sophisticated predictions. Yet when silencing happens far later than anticipated, other deeper motives may be at work.

Take Bill Cooper, (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Bill%20Cooper) whom I personally met face-to-face in London, January 9th, 1993 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvnucaSZTDw). His killing in 2001 unleashed a global ripple effect, inspiring countless individuals to amplify his work via alternative media, social media platforms, and quotes on conspiracy and suppressed news research sites. Today, viral video clips of his elite exposés and prophecies still garner hundreds of thousands to millions of views and shares worldwide.

Reading his book "Behold a Pale Horse (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=%22Behold%20a%20Pale%20Horse%22)", and/or listening to an audio version online, which I did more than once, can shatter worldviews, propelling people to go down new "rabbit holes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forum.php)" in a quest to awaken the masses. Without his death as a catalyst, far fewer would have been moved or influenced by his ideas.

The same dynamic now applies to Charlie Kirk (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Charlie%20Kirk): in the wake of his assassination just days ago on September 10, 2025, millions more are delving into his words—spiking views on his exposés and fueling tributes like Erika Kirk (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22Erika+Kirk%22)'s viral video—unleashing unpredictable long-term consequences for the "powers that be," who may turn to A.I. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-), asking, "What does this mean for the decade ahead?"

More "neutrals (https://johnkuhles.substack.com/p/whitewashed-lies)" could undergo a profound shift, growing bolder to speak out and mobilizing their circles and networks doing the same ... Do the math: the fallout can grow exponentially fast.


I am fully aware, Martyrs are not "perfect" nor "flawless", nobody is, not even the "almighty A.I. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-)" ... but when the masses realize how they are often systematically falsely framed, smeared and demonized, it could partially explain the eventual death—and shifts focus not only to corrupt leaders but also to enablers like MSM, who become complicit while claiming to be "arbiters of truth". This exposes MSM's being spreader of big fat lies.

If any controversy (https://x.com/JohnKuhles1966/status/1938817707199090976) is "messy", it's mostly because "authorities" within mass media are incompetent (or willfully sabotage) to manage a fair, constructive debate, as their minds are already made up, their conflict resolution skills are zero to none. Hence, mass conditioning isn't just from one side pushed hard; it's the steering of "allowed narratives" that are rigged from the get-go. Yet the vast majority have no clue, or some do, but lack the stamina to do something about it.


Time to Unslave Humanity (https://johnkuhles.substack.com/p/the-real-biggest-global-risks-in) & Outsmart Defeatism that is Beyond Tribalism (https://x.com/JohnKuhles1966/status/1938817707199090976).

Cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Dutch 🇳🇱 NDE/Asperger
Studying Weaponized Mass Psychology Warfare for 35 years!

[Bill Ryan]

Copying this, posted by Houman on his thread: (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=1685121&viewfull=1#post1685121)

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[Arcturian108]

Interesting: This is how they shot Charlie Kirk:

https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099
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(https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099)

I am now convinced that this was how the murder went down, and the patsy they got is just the cover story. But who was behind this, and why did they want him dead? And who will investigate this any further if part of our government was involved?

[TrumanCash]

Copying this, posted by Houman on his thread: (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=1685121&viewfull=1#post1685121)

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It appears to me that Tyler Robinson is the patsy and this video exposes the motive.

[gini]

PROOF Charlie Kirk Was TERRIFIED Of Israel! 5FXlaCFyPII. --25min--13/9/25

[SilentFeathers]

Why ain't I surprised??????

Personally I don't think Israel did this, it appears to me that this is the result of years of indoctrination, gaslighting, and brainwashing by the demonic left and a dude full of programmed hatred acted out and killed Charlie.

Evil no longer sneaks around and lurks in the shadows, it's mask is off and it's out in the open now for all to see.

BREAKING: Charlie Kirk Killer’s Transgender Partner Revealed | All Electronics Seized, FBI Confirms…
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[Ernie Nemeth]

i was going to put this on the great quotes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8309-the-great-quotes-thread&p=71497&viewfull=1#post71497) thread but i think it is more appropriate here on this day


hate can not drive out hate, only love can do that.
Martin luther king.

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Rob, as a rule, I normally let these types of comments pass without concern. Please understand that I ask this question with no anger or animosity, but rather pure curiosity. It is my feeling that Martin Luther King put this so succinctly because he understood that love was the only true antidote for hate. Had this young man (or whoever you believe pulled the trigger), had love in their heart instead of hate, Charlie Kirk would still be alive today. This is simply a fact. It may sound a bit trite to you, but often the truth is just as simple as it gets.
What would you consider the antidote for hate?

Hi rgray, i hear you and agree, love compassion empathy understanding are extremely important in a functioning society, there should be no room for hatred malice greed etc, BUT when someone deliberately planned and executed that plan to shoot a bloke in the neck in full view of that mans wife and kids, in front of thousands of innocent men and women, that bloke does not deserve love understanding compassion, not getting mine anyway.
He absolutely deserves all the punishment headed his way (this is of course if hes the shooter) and i hope he rots away in a cell, my judgement and reasoning is NOT out of hatred, cause im an eye for an eye kinda bloke when it comes to heinousness and brutal actions performed, played out by an evil and sick individual, there has to be tough consequences for crimes of this nature.
Not being a smart a..e here rgray but would you still feel the love for this bloke if he blew the neck off of your dad..?

RRR

This is exactly what unconditional love is.
To understand it is to understand God and yourself.

In love, this person deserves punishment. He violated the rights of another.
BUT, that does not give us the right to torture him.
If we do, we are no better than him.

A quick death seems appropriate.

The question of whether incarceration is just punishment or if it is torture I leave for another day.


Another point is that our system is broken, if it was ever anything but. In this scenario, breaking the law has social implications. And legal defence is a question of financial resources. The more money the better the defence. The systemic corruption that is intrinsic to our system and skews the "level" playing field in favor of the corrupt unjustly targets the poor - and keeps them poor and underrepresented.
This is not an excuse for the individual to act criminally but it is a reason to resist. I have resisted my whole life and it has cost me dearly, yet my conscience is clear because I did not violate my principles. I did not kill, maim, lie or deceive in response to the unfairness. Corporations, companies, banks, governments, think tanks and global organizations are fair game but individuals are not.

[ExomatrixTV]

Alex Jones LEAKED The Whole Secret About Charlie Kirk Suspect:

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This horrible killing, also conveniently distract the attention away from new 9/11 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?88-9-11) revelations & discussions?

[Bill Ryan]

Alex Jones LEAKED The Whole Secret About Charlie Kirk Suspect:

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This may be important. There are many things here which seem increasingly hard to explain.

Do watch this. Emerging evidence suggests that a lot of people knew about Charlie Kirk's death before it happened.

[Arcturian108]

Knowing about Charlie Kirk's death before it happened is just more evidence that Robinson is just a patsy, and this event was planned in a bigger way. 9/11 happened so long ago now, that many people around the world were born after that awful event. The powers that be probably wanted to reinforce the awful fears associated with 9/11, and they found the best way to do that in the current political climate.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Every socialist/communist revolution eventually leads to this phase of the operation: eliminate the voices of dissent.

Once the rampaging mobs have been stirred up enough and when enough attention has been garnered from the public and fear becomes rampant, the purge can begin.


First the most prominent voices are silenced, and the public backlash is assessed. If the masses accept the murders without enough outcry and calls for justice, mass murder can begin.

They have lists of the opposition, big and small.
Within a few months the purge could be accomplished.

Just like it happened in China, Germany, Russia, North Korea, Venezuela, Columbia, Congo, South Africa, Niger, Afghanistan...etc.


Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it...

[Bill Ryan]

Dear Friends, the following is what happened. It joins all the many dots, some of which are seemingly puzzling and challenging to connect — including how come quite a number of people seemed to have somehow known, or heard, that this was all going to happen as planned or intended.

:flower:

We may never know this as a fact, or ever be able to prove it, but it's still what happened. In this new video just published, Larry Johnson — who knows a thing or two from his long experience with the CIA — explained this starting at 18:55:

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I'm not suggesting that Mossad directly targeted Charlie. But I also know there are things the intelligence agencies can do to try to incite third parties like Tyler Robinson to act where they think that they're acting on their own behalf. But they've been fed a line.

They've been fed information deliberately designed to provoke and to inflame the situation. I saw elements of this when I worked with the Central Intelligence Agency 40 years ago.

There were ways that you could feed information to somebody where they were unwitting that it was coming from the CIA, and they they think it was coming from some other source.

And then based on that information, they take action.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOEWpDih-ro

[norman]

The first 5 (or7) minutes of this video are worth including in the memories you take away from this news frenzy cycle.


Man Debating Charlie Kirk When He Was Shot Breaks His Silence
The StateOfDaniel Podcast - Sep 12, 2025

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[ExomatrixTV]

Proof Charlie Kirk Was In Fear Of Israel:

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As soon as word got out that conservative commentator Charlie Kirk had been shot, rumors began circulating online suggesting Israeli involvement, compelling Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to dismiss them as absurd and antisemitic. A Grayzone article cited an anonymous Trump insider who claimed Kirk rejected Netanyahu’s financial backing for Turning Point USA and faced escalating pressure and intimidation from pro-Israel allies.

Guest host Misty Winston and Kurt Metzger discuss how, in the months before his death, Kirk publicly questioned Israeli influence in Washington, October 7th intelligence failures, and the unchecked power of Zionist donors, sparking backlash from figures like Ben Shapiro. The coverage frames Kirk’s killing as both a turning point in right-wing discourse on Israel and a warning to others not to dissent.

[Bill Ryan]

This was posted by Candace Owens this morning US time. She knew Charlie Kirk personally extremely well.

The text:

Charlie Kirk was fighting with some very powerful billionaires that he took money from over things he was discussing.
The pressure on him was immense over the last two weeks.
The truth will be revealed. The messages will be leaked. And the movement he built will rise up.



https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/1966840811544605157
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[mountain_jim]

He may be a patsy but this is still relevant for his motivations

https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1966900341120921629

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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
TRUE!

Yes, it is being reported that Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect arrested in the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, was living with a transgender partner who is a male transitioning to female.

According to Fox News reporter Brooke Singman, sources indicate that this individual is fully cooperating with the FBI, which obtained texts and other communications between Robinson and the partner that helped confirm Robinson as the shooter.

The report has been echoed by outlets like The Post Millennial and The Gateway Pundit, though some social media users have questioned its credibility without official confirmation from law enforcement.



Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

It’s being reported that Tyler Robinson, the man who assassinated Charlie Kirk, was living with his transgender boyfriend who was transitioning to a woman.

Trans people are a national security threat. Their movement needs to be classified as a terrorist organization IMMEDIATELY!


Brooke Singman
@BrookeSingman
EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.

The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.

Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.

[mountain_jim]

Clandestine
@WarClandestine
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Here’s what happened.

The Dems/MSM told all the trans kids, who are already mentally ill and in a state of psychosis, that Trump is literally Hitler and wants to commit “trans genocide”.

They created a standing army of mentally ill lunatics who want to kill us.

Not hyperbole.


on the other hand


https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1966975775388954816

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@KAGdrogo
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2 years ago, Meghan McCain’s husband, and FoxNews host, was insinuating the need to remove Charlie Kirk from TPUSA for ‘antisemitism.’


https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1966971084877783111

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@KAGdrogo
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They aren’t even hiding it.


https://x.com/gc22gc/status/1966927633842946529

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Grace Chong, MBI
@gc22gc
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BANNON: We must know who pulled the trigger on Charlie Kirk, but also who organized it, financed it, who was involved. Not gonna let Charlie’s assassination deteriorate into something like JFK. We owe Charlie and his children the truth of who murdered their father in cold blood.

[rgray222]

The first 5 (or7) minutes of this video are worth including in the memories you take away from this news frenzy cycle.


Man Debating Charlie Kirk When He Was Shot Breaks His Silence
The StateOfDaniel Podcast - Sep 12, 2025

iKEoi7pQ8F4

What a fascinating video, there is so much going on. It really drives the troubling reality home that colleges and universities are laboratories of indoctrination and not centers of higher education. These institutions have contributed to Western societal rot on a grand scale. They target impressionable youth, indoctrinating them before they have the chance to develop critical thinking skills. What this video reveals is that this kid is clearly struggling with the indoctrination he's received. He's questioning the very principles he's been taught, a sign that beneath the surface, he's beginning to think for himself. This was likely a kid Kirk could have influenced or at least started down the path to critical thinking. The fact that he's questioning with genuine concern shows me that indoctrination isn’t so deep that it can't be overcome. There’s clearly a desire to understand the truth.

The fact that this young man was going to ask a question about trans shootings is amazing. His sole purpose for attending the rally was to prove to Charlie Kirk how "peaceful the left was." Then those same peaceful people assassinated Charlie Kirk right before his eyes. There is no coincidence here, nor any irony, only something truly otherworldly. If people can't recognize that the struggle extends far beyond the human realm of good and evil, then they may never truly see the deeper forces at play.

[Jad]

Same play, same reaction, same outcome. If we keep falling for it, then we didn’t learn jack! Stop guessing who did it — ask who benefits from removing him. The answer’s staring us in the face.

[SilentFeathers]

I purposely spent the first 48hrs or so from the time of this event not to allow my mind to wander down any rabbit holes and just watch the "story" unfold.

I also forced myself to watch the formal briefings from the Utah Governor, local and State LE, FBI, etc., and just absorb the narrative as it unfolded. I only made mental notes of discrepancies and red flags so to speak, yet the whole time followed the main narrative and did my best to just believe it until I couldn't anymore.

Well, I must say, without wandering down any rabbit holes it does seem it is what it is, and what they are claiming happened, basically happened sort of the way they are saying it happened.

Going over the discrepancies and red flags I made mental notes of, I do find myself scratching my head a bit over some things being reported.

All I'm going to say right now, until I see things more clearly, is that if this is some type of conspiracy and or an operation by the evil-doers, at this moment in time I would bet my bottom dollar that the same crew that did the operation in Butler, PA, were the ones behind this operation too. This event is basically almost EXACTLY like the Butler PA event, but done a bit more carefully and cleaner so to speak. (But done the same none the less)

Something in the back of my mind is almost screaming to me to look at the event in Butler, and layer it over this event. That's what I've been doing the last day or so and I am seeing things, well, in layers that make these two events seem completely related. I am actually seeing the relationship of these two events as something real and rather important somehow. I am not seeing this connection as wandering down a wild imagination rabbit hole.

At this point in time I'm not sure what this all means, but, I know deep in my soul these two events are deeply connected.

[rgray222]

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin lived with his transgender partner, senior-level FBI officials told Fox News Digital.

Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson, 22, was in a "romantic relationship" with the unnamed person, who is a male transitioning to a female, and that they shared an apartment in Saint George, Utah. Those FBI officials told Fox News Digital that Robinson's partner is fully cooperating with the FBI's investigation.

EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin lived with his transgender partner, senior-level FBI officials told Fox News Digital.

Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson, 22, was in a "romantic relationship" with the unnamed person, who is a male transitioning to a female, and that they shared an apartment in Saint George, Utah. Those FBI officials told Fox News Digital that Robinson's partner is fully cooperating with the FBI's investigation.

One FBI official told Fox News Digital the individual has been "extremely cooperative," and said the person "had no idea" Robinson was allegedly planning to assassinate the Turning Point USA founder. The person is not currently accused of any criminal activity in connection with the assassination.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2025/09/720/405/robinson-apartment-utah.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
Forensic agents are seen at the apartment complex where Tyler Robinson, 22, the suspect in the killing of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk, lived in St. George, Utah, on Sept. 12, 2025. Kirk was shot dead while speaking at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, on Sept. 10. His widow pledged on Sept. 12 to continue his work after U.S. authorities announced the suspect’s capture. (Photo by Romain Fonsegrives/AFP)

FBI officials told Fox News Digital that the FBI had text messages and other communications between Robinson and his partner that helped FBI agents zero in on Robinson. Officials said the FBI took evidence from their apartment, including computers, which has been sent to Quantico for review, Fox News Digital has learned.

The FBI declined to comment on whether Robinson's partner would be charged with a crime.

"The FBI is investigating a record number of tips," an FBI spokesperson said. "Every connection, every group, every link will be investigated and anyone involved in this matter, anywhere in the world they might be, will be brought to justice."

The apartment Robinson and his partner shared is in the same southern Utah community Robinson's parents live in. It is approximately four hours away from Utah Valley University, where Robinson allegedly shot Kirk.

Kirk was killed Wednesday as he spoke to a crowd at the school's campus in Orem. Authorities believe a single shot was fired from the roof of a building some 200 yards away. Kirk was 31, and the married father of two young children.

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2025/09/720/405/3419-s-river-rd-apt-73-st-geroge-utah-fox-news-001-1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
Robinson lived in this Saint George, Utah, apartment complex with his roommate and lover. (Derek Shook for Fox News Digital)

Robinson lived in this Saint George, Utah, apartment complex with his roommate and lover. (Derek Shook for Fox News Digital)

Meanwhile, the rifle that the FBI believes was used to kill Kirk contained ammunition inscribed with anti-fascist messaging.

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox confirmed the messaging at a news conference Friday, saying investigators discovered inscriptions on casings found with a bolt-action rifle near the campus.

One used casing and three unused casings contained the writings, Cox said.

News of the ammunition inscriptions was first shared on social media Thursday morning in a preliminary bulletin attributed to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/charlie-kirks-assassin-lived-transgender-partner-who-now-cooperating-fbi-sources

[ExomatrixTV]

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[rgray222]

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[gini]

'Netanyahu’s Crude Exploitation of Charlie Kirk’s Death' F3Fqzlo-Hck --45 min--13/9/25--

[gini]

In the first 11 minutes Alex Krainer analyses the false dichtomy of the left /right paradigm and concludes "this was absolutely not a gruntled leftist,but a profesional well planned,well coordinated hit job ,and so I wouldnt waste energy blaming the leftist.Its a different problem we are facing". --ROQgMvcxV_s

[thepainterdoug]

gini/ I will watch later. but I for one was never "blaming" the left. It is the lefts reaction to it that I am appalled by.

Im amazed how much doubt is being raised in this event being so called "real"? see Victoria Bingham's post below, casting doubt on everything .

https://theparalleluniverse.substack.com/p/another-fake-assassination-in-a-land-39e?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1202385&post_id=173449787&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=90vas&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

[SilentFeathers]

gini/ I will watch later. but I for one was never "blaming" the left. It is the lefts reaction to it that I am appalled by.

Im amazed how much doubt is being raised in this event being so called "real"? see Victoria Bingham's post below, casting doubt on everything .

https://theparalleluniverse.substack.com/p/another-fake-assassination-in-a-land-39e?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1202385&post_id=173449787&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=90vas&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

I'm surprised more of these types of things haven't happened considering all the indoctrination, gaslighting, and brainwashing that has fueled so many minds with evil and extreme hatred over the last 10 years.

This is not a result of someone full of anger, it's someone full of extreme hatred. Anger and hatred are two separate kinds of mindsets.

I'm leaning towards it being just what it appears to be; a young brainwash and delusional individual who took action through this extreme level of hatred. Passing the point of no return.

The only freaky or weird thing I'm seriously considering is the strange way it's so much like the Butler PA event. I think this scumbag who shot Charlie wanted to be a successful Thomas Crooks.

[BMJ]

The Truth About This Piece Of Sh*t

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Paul Joseph Watson
Sep 14, 2025
Who is Tyler Robinson?

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1967206490055573881

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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
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2h
I have been told this morning by an FBI analyst reviewing the reams of GPS data, there very well may be dozens of co-conspirators.
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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
·
16h
Not a conspiracy at all… Right!

The same transgender that was friends with Tyler’s gay transgender boyfriend posted “WE F*CKING DID IT” moments after Charlie’s death.


https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1967169741338100195

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Andy Ngo

@MrAndyNgo
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4h
Axios is reporting that investigators are examining whether radical leftist groups in Utah played a role in helping Charlie Kirk's assassin suspect. One unnamed group had scrubbed its social media right after the shooting.

[SilentFeathers]

https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1967206490055573881

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Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
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2h
I have been told this morning by an FBI analyst reviewing the reams of GPS data, there very well may be dozens of co-conspirators.
Quote
Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
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16h
Not a conspiracy at all… Right!

The same transgender that was friends with Tyler’s gay transgender boyfriend posted “WE F*CKING DID IT” moments after Charlie’s death.


https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1967169741338100195

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Andy Ngo

@MrAndyNgo
·
4h
Axios is reporting that investigators are examining whether radical leftist groups in Utah played a role in helping Charlie Kirk's assassin suspect. One unnamed group had scrubbed its social media right after the shooting.

I totally agree and expect more arrests.

I think the whole Trump Administration is in deep discussion about this and debating each other on how about to go about this without creating a complete uprising within the country.

The radical far left will riot and light the cities on fire and likely kill a bunch of people if a whole group of trans and trans supporters are arrested.

[Arcturian108]

I am quite surprised that the video that I uploaded yesterday to Project Avalon showing that Charlie was shot with a cell-phone gun are still up on the internet and have had over 600,000 views. Here is the same guy whose Twitter/X account is called "Salomondrin" giving the same information on his Twitter account in Spanish: video (https://twitter.com/salomondrin/status/1966259532444967050)

[Arcturian108]

Interesting: This is how they shot Charlie Kirk:

https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099
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(https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099)

Twitter/X doesn't make it easy to download this video, and I am still surprised that it is up on the site. Besides the evidence it presents about how Charlie was murdered, not involving the patsy that the government has picked, there is another disturbing element in this video. Who among you knew that a cell phone could also be a gun? I sure didn't. What does this mean for security in all public places from this point forward? Are security checkpoints aware of this issue? And if everyone knew of this possibility then nobody would feel safe anymore in public with people carrying around a gun that looks like a phone. Right now most governments are depending upon surveilling their populations through the universal usage of smart phones. Knowing now that these could also be guns could cause a big change in the economies of the world. And they wouldn't want that information to get out. I personally wish everyone would go back to using landlines, so that option doesn't disappear. I only use a corded landline.

[madrotter]

Here's another perspective:

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And I think he's right on the mark about a lot of things, mainly (in my own opinion) that you are at each others throats, even harder than before because of this, civilian war if you like, and I think that was the whole purpose (or one of them) of this assassination.

I found this quite infuriating to be honest, and correct me if I'm wrong, but:

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He's talking about "us", no man, you're not "one of us". He's got one of the more popular (political) podcasts out there, what do you think he's making? 50.000 Dollars a week? A hundred thousand a week? From his video's and short clips? He's putting oil on the fire in my opinion....

I like this guy's take on things a WHOLE LOT better:

https://x.com/AAnon55/status/1966685718824001963
1966685718824001963
And again. Correct me if you think I'm wrong, I'm looking at the USA from the outside (and Europe too)....

[bojancan]

So many articles and videos... guessing of when, who, why... IMO they often use Mormons for the crisis actors for some reason.... the LDS is closely tied in with the intel agencies .. I do not fell into this Robinson stuff, involvement...
Sabby is having her insights about Max article, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.... we all are having our own opinion and guessing about what is the bigger picture behind Charlie's death too... it is not strange.. Ben S has been selected to take over Charlie's TPUSA... isn't he?
Also we know how operate Israel... through Epstein blackmail... AIPAC... etc... RIP Charlie...

Sept, 13
Sabby Sabs
238K subscribers
Max Blumenthal REVEALS Charlie Kirk REJECTED Netanyahu Money!
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[norman]

Max Blumenthal REVEALS Charlie Kirk REJECTED Netanyahu Money!

He also shoved a middle finger up the faces of Empire Central.

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[Rizotto]

Interesting: This is how they shot Charlie Kirk:

https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099
(https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099)1966255182662218099
(https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099)

Twitter/X doesn't make it easy to download this video, and I am still surprised that it is up on the site. Besides the evidence it presents about how Charlie was murdered, not involving the patsy that the government has picked, there is another disturbing element in this video. Who among you knew that a cell phone could also be a gun? I sure didn't. What does this mean for security in all public places from this point forward? Are security checkpoints aware of this issue? And if everyone knew of this possibility then nobody would feel safe anymore in public with people carrying around a gun that looks like a phone. Right now most governments are depending upon surveilling their populations through the universal usage of smart phones. Knowing now that these could also be guns could cause a big change in the economies of the world. And they wouldn't want that information to get out. I personally wish everyone would go back to using landlines, so that option doesn't disappear. I only use a corded landline.

That was an interesting analysis. I too had no idea there was any such 'cell phone' guns on the market, but when looking it up, I saw they've been available since at least 2018.

I played the video in slow motion. The white shirt guy in the background makes numerous hand moves throughout the video that don't make sense. At one point he passes his cell phone from the left hand to the right (or drops it? it's not clear), then someone touches him on the left shoulder, then the guy seems to hold something in his left hand (did someone pass this to him?), but it's not something black like the cell phone, it's something of a colour that apparently blends with his skin colour. At the end when he grasps the thing with both hands, we do see his hands recoil at the sound of a shot, but I don't see the shape of a gun there, and I didn't see the flash of gunfire coming from the area of his hands. Just my observations. I don't really know what to think.

I looked up videos of field testing of this 'cell phone' gun, which is all black by the way. The way the testers held this gun is not compatible with what we see in the above video. Both hands are well behind the barrel of the gun, and a gunfire flash is visible when they push the trigger.

On the other hand, it's quite possible that there are numerous versions of mini hand guns or other devices that could be used for covert shooting of someone in a crowd.
I have to admit that the hand movements of the white shirt guy in the above video are suspicious.

[Rizotto]

Here's another perspective:

Og6tSfkUJzE

And I think he's right on the mark about a lot of things, mainly (in my own opinion) that you are at each others throats, even harder than before because of this, civilian war if you like, and I think that was the whole purpose (or one of them) of this assassination.

I found this quite infuriating to be honest, and correct me if I'm wrong, but:

6znXK1QM1ks

He's talking about "us", no man, you're not "one of us". He's got one of the more popular (political) podcasts out there, what do you think he's making? 50.000 Dollars a week? A hundred thousand a week? From his video's and short clips? He's putting oil on the fire in my opinion....

I like this guy's take on things a WHOLE LOT better:

https://x.com/AAnon55/status/1966685718824001963
1966685718824001963
And again. Correct me if you think I'm wrong, I'm looking at the USA from the outside (and Europe too)....

I agree completely with you. This terrible assassination is now used to pitch people against each other. Remember, the elites' old trick of 'divide and rule'.

I was also thoroughly put off by the 'Redacted' commentary by Clayton Morris above. Overwrought with phony hysteria, in my opinion.

The so-called left has too many posts approving this assassination. AND the extremist 'right' have launched witchhunts on anybody they think is approving of the assassination, and getting them 'cancelled'. We all need to stay level-headed right now, and do careful analysis of what actually happened, and especially the context surrounding Charlie Kirk.

Because we've had the wool pulled down over our eyes too many times before by the 'powers that be'.

[Bill Ryan]

I like this guy's take on things a WHOLE LOT better:

https://x.com/AAnon55/status/1966685718824001963
1966685718824001963
A big yes to this. And here it is on YouTube:

Charlie Kirk’s Death Exposed the Biggest Scam in History


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azE7nqqQMmo
And then connect that with my post #221 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130341-Charlie-Kirk-assassinated-10-Sept-2025&p=1685156&viewfull=1#post1685156) 24 hours ago.

[norman]

... IMO *they often use Mormons for the crisis actors for some reason.... the LDS is closely tied in with the intel agencies .. I do not fell into this Robinson stuff, involvement...



The LDS (or hiding inside it) is one of the big 4 branches of the *Brotherhood.

[ExomatrixTV]

Lefties Losing It: MSNBC’s Joe Dowd fired for ‘depraved’ comments after Charlie Kirk shooting:

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Sky News host Rita Panahi has slammed MSNBC’s Joe Dowd for “depraved” comments he made after Charlie Kirk was assassinated.


“Celebrating Charlie Kirk’s Death” - TMZ BUSTED As Fake Car Chase Excuse DOESN’T Add Up:

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Patrick Bet-David breaks down TMZ’s response after employees were caught laughing during the announcement of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Did Harvey Levin cover it up? Pat calls out TMZ’s credibility and compares their handling to MSNBC’s firing of hateful voices.

[norman]

Ok, tell me I'm losing it.



I think this guy is getting wiped off the internet pretty fast.

I know I'm not a great and savvy search term researcher etc but I couldn't get google to throw him up on first pages or second pages at all for 10 minutes.

Using a bunch of different and increasingly obscure search terms I eventually found this one not very good image of him on Facebook.

He was the one who grabbed all the attention as soon as the Charlie Kirk bullet flew.

https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/545945283_828344443099140_1292482860491175027_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296_tt6&_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=ClI6Lxrwk-sQ7kNvwF8idb8&_nc_oc=AdlEa707EYqvRdd2fCRedEcaLZ29ubXIKnCrB4_KCMvqnT0Qef8RMDBMgddsh8k9JCo&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&_nc_gid=jD1K6jswgBZoG7W_TiE4gw&oh=00_AfY0VKFXbRCC_vHA6gzNSGq52ZTyLsinC1YOS-L5EiGiXw&oe=68CCD068




This is a 'survivor' of the 9/11 event (with his own booking agent) (https://champions-speakers.co.uk/speaker-agent/charlie-gray). Is he the same guy ?


https://champions-speakers.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/profile_gallery_xl/public/2020-10/charlie-gray-banner_0.jpg?itok=SRCLNbkd


If they are the same man I suggest grabbing all of the UVU shooting location images of him, he's likely to become more relevant later.